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Speaker 1: And when I say we made it another day, it's

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Speaker 1: something clearly wrong with the messenger and how the message

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Speaker 1: is being delivered. And let me go inside politics for

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Speaker 1: a moment. There was someone in that room either handling

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Speaker 1: the camera or somehow directing the governor and the taping

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Speaker 1: of that video. There should have been someone who said, sorry,

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Speaker 1: mister governor, but you need to take that fleece jacket off,

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Speaker 1: or you need to take the hat off. You need

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Speaker 1: to at least look as if you are dealing with

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Speaker 1: the same problems and issues as the other people who

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Speaker 1: live in California. If, just for appearance's sake, politicians lie

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Speaker 1: all the time, why can't they lie in a way

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Speaker 1: which seems a little less insincere. Why can't you go

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Speaker 1: ahead and lie and take off the fleece jacket and

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Speaker 1: make it seem like it's at least hot in the room,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, get a spray bottle and spray some

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Speaker 1: water on him, make him look like he's sweating or something.

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Speaker 1: I would much rather see that than see the governor

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Speaker 1: in a fleece jacket, knowing good and damn well that

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Speaker 1: the air conditioner is probably blowing on ten and has

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Speaker 1: been for the past five hours. So when he then

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Speaker 1: delivers the message that we're all in this together, or

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Speaker 1: we all have to do our part, which he said

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Speaker 1: literally word for word, it makes it at least a

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Speaker 1: little less distracting. It seems a little more believable, a

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Speaker 1: little more digestible, And then I am more able and

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Speaker 1: more likely to receive the message as it is, and

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Speaker 1: then we can spend more time talking about the message

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Speaker 1: as opposed to the messenger. Listen to Johnny Ken Show

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Speaker 1: k if I am six forty, I'm O'Kelly, We're live

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Speaker 1: everywhere on the iHeartRadio add I got this story from

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Speaker 1: producer Ray today and I was just blown away. I

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Speaker 1: did not have any idea that it was this bad.

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Speaker 1: And I look at this, obviously it's in conjunction whom

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Speaker 1: with any other story we're discussing, regarding the heat wave

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Speaker 1: or even the fires. It seems like all of these

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Speaker 1: stories are connected on some level. But I did not

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Speaker 1: know and probably you did not know either that in

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Speaker 1: terms of the United States, ten children have died in

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Speaker 1: hot cars in just the month of August. And you

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Speaker 1: have to put that within the context of we are

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Speaker 1: now more knowledgeable than ever about the dangers of an

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Speaker 1: unattended child in a hot car. We are more aware

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Speaker 1: of how quickly a child can die. In other words,

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Speaker 1: we as just ordinary citizens. We're looking at other people's cars,

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Speaker 1: and if we see an unattended child in a car

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Speaker 1: with the windows rolled up and it might be hot outside,

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Speaker 1: we're aware that something needs to be done, and we

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Speaker 1: will most likely intervene. But I did not know that

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Speaker 1: we're still at a point in which we're losing so

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Speaker 1: many children just because of unattended children, these hot car deaths.

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Speaker 1: As I was saying, in August alone, ten children died

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Speaker 1: a vehicular heat stroke. Now this is according to the

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Speaker 1: National Highway Transit Traffic Safety Administration. And you might wonder, well,

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Speaker 1: how does it happen given that we should be much

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Speaker 1: more aware. And I guess if I were to look

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Speaker 1: at this data and take a step back, I guess

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Speaker 1: a part of it is just we get caught up

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Speaker 1: in our lives and sometimes we're absent minded. We may

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Speaker 1: think wrongly, think that we can run into the store

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Speaker 1: and it's maybe not too hot outside, and we won't

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Speaker 1: be in there too long, and we come back, and

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Speaker 1: then something tragic has happened. But this is something that

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Speaker 1: I did not know, and hopefully I can pass along

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Speaker 1: to you and you will be better informed and prepared,

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Speaker 1: just in the case that you may think that, well,

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Speaker 1: I won't be gone too long, or it's not that

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Speaker 1: big a deal, or it's okay. A child's body temperature

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Speaker 1: rises three to five times faster than adults. In other words,

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Speaker 1: it doesn't take as long as it as it might

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Speaker 1: for you or me if we were in that same car.

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Speaker 1: And for children, heat stroke starts when their core body

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Speaker 1: temperature reaches one hundred and four degrees. Death is at

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Speaker 1: one hundred and seven degrees, and it can happen in minutes.

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Speaker 1: In twenty eighteen and twenty nineteen, the US saw a

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Speaker 1: record number of hot card deaths. According to no heat

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Speaker 1: Stroke dot Org, fifty three three children died in each

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Speaker 1: of those years, which is the most reported in the

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Speaker 1: last twenty years. And I'm not trying to be funny.

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of why we were either smarter

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Speaker 1: or this happened less in previous years, because I remember,

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Speaker 1: And again I'm not trying to be funny, I'm I'm

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Speaker 1: being serious. I remember the cars of the eighties and

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Speaker 1: the seventies were much hotter in nature that vinyl. I

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Speaker 1: can't even call it leather, the vinyl seats. You understand

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Mark, I mean the cars were much

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Speaker 1: more likely to get someone killed a child, especially in

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Speaker 1: the summer. Those were torture, but it didn't happen so either,

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Speaker 1: parents were more aware, more attentive because the cars were

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Speaker 1: seemingly more dangerous, or there's another variable in this question

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Speaker 1: that I just don't know. I remember my father had

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Speaker 1: an old blue I think it was like a sixty four.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't a corvet, but it was something like that,

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Speaker 1: and they had these vinyl seats that you would stick

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Speaker 1: to in the summer and you would get physically burned

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Speaker 1: good no, no exaggeration. You would stick to it and

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Speaker 1: you would get physically burned by the seats. And there

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Speaker 1: would be no way in the world that we would

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Speaker 1: be left in a car. Going back to yesterday talking

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Speaker 1: about the joke of having to roll down the windows,

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Speaker 1: well we couldn't even roll down the windows because it

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Speaker 1: was broken, so the whole idea. It was a convertible,

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Speaker 1: and there was a hole in that plastic window, so

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Speaker 1: that provided some relief. But there was no way a

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Speaker 1: child would be left in a car like that. And

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Speaker 1: I don't believe that parents in general would leave children

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Speaker 1: in cars, if only because those cars were obviously much

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Speaker 1: more dangerous in nature. And I know, if you're under

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Speaker 1: the age of maybe thirty thirty five, you have no

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Speaker 1: memory of how physically uncomfortable cars were in the summer.

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Speaker 1: And going back to what I was saying yesterday, air

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Speaker 1: conditioning was an option. It was a luxury back then.

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Speaker 1: Not all those cars had air conditioning. So you could

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Speaker 1: imagine being in a car with those physical, manual roll

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Speaker 1: down windows, that vinyl pleather for seats, and it would

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Speaker 1: get so hot. Mark You'd remember this. It would get

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Speaker 1: so hot that the dashboards would crack. And yeah, that

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Speaker 1: was real common and people don't really understand it. Back

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Speaker 1: in the old days, sweating was a primary activity. You'd

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Speaker 1: ask somebody what they're gonna do for the evening. They're

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Speaker 1: just gonna sweat. You don't do anything else with it.

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Speaker 1: You just sit around in sweat. And remember in the

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Speaker 1: nineteen seventies, and I know my late grandmother, my father's

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Speaker 1: mother would do this, and I see other people do it.

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Speaker 1: Smoking was very big back in the seventies, and people

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Speaker 1: would smoke in the car with the windows rolled up

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Speaker 1: in the summer. I don't know how people did not

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Speaker 1: just die on the spot from lack of oxygen. Every

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Speaker 1: place smelled like smoke back then, and I'm reminded of

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Speaker 1: that when I go to places like Las Vegas, because

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Speaker 1: people will smoke in the casinos. Hot as hell in

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Speaker 1: that regard. People will smoke in the casinos, smoke in

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Speaker 1: the restaurants. And if you've been in California for any

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Speaker 1: length of time where you don't have that indoor smoking,

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Speaker 1: you get you get accustomed to not smelling the smoke

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Speaker 1: very quickly, very very quickly. And so when you go

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Speaker 1: to places where they do smoke everywhere, like down South,

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Speaker 1: or if you go to Europe, people still smoke a lot.

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Speaker 1: And I don't get that. I know I'm digressing here,

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Speaker 1: but it's just that it's interesting how times have changed

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Speaker 1: and somehow we have a higher susceptibility to people dying

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Speaker 1: going back to hot cars than we did twenty and

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Speaker 1: thirty years ago. We're seemingly the environment was much more

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Speaker 1: conducive to having children die in hot cars. Cars were

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Speaker 1: much more deadly, if you will back then as opposed

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Speaker 1: to now. Maybe there's a false sense of security if

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Speaker 1: you leave a child in a very plus plush suv

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Speaker 1: in the summer, as opposed to the rinky dig boats

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Speaker 1: that we had. And the cars were just physically different.

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Speaker 1: The metal in which they were made with is just

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Speaker 1: much more solid in nature, the cars were just put

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Speaker 1: it away. They were much more conducive to conducting heat.

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Speaker 1: That's the point I'm trying to make. They were magnets

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Speaker 1: for all sorts of heat. And yet, according to the data,

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Speaker 1: and I have to assume they still had this data,

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Speaker 1: they still charted the data years ago, children were not dying,

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Speaker 1: even though it would be easier for children to die

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Speaker 1: in those cars during those summers under those similar circumstances.

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Speaker 1: So something has changed, I guess now with the idea

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Speaker 1: of parenting, where people either are not paying attention or

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Speaker 1: they've just not invested in the welfare of their children,

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Speaker 1: maybe that's it. Because there's not a time I remember

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Speaker 1: where I should say I don't remember a time in

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Speaker 1: which I saw so many children being left unattended in cars.

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Speaker 1: In general, I'm more aware of it because working in

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Speaker 1: news media and you cover these stories, you think about

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Speaker 1: it more, and so when you see it, you're more

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Speaker 1: inclined to recognize it. Now, I have not had the

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Speaker 1: situation where I felt the need to knock on the

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Speaker 1: window or go into the store and have them do

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Speaker 1: an announcement, Hey, someone with the gray Jaguar outside. Your

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Speaker 1: kid is in the car, because for the most part

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Speaker 1: what I've seen, the windows were rolled down, and maybe

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Speaker 1: it was a mild temperature outside. But clearly I'm not

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Speaker 1: the only one who needs to pay attention, because these

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Speaker 1: children are still dying routinely, and you would think at

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Speaker 1: this point people would be hyper aware and hyper vigilant,

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Speaker 1: but clearly we're not. And maybe there's a discussion to

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Speaker 1: be had about just parenting is maybe we're just so

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Speaker 1: invested in not knowing what is going on right around

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Speaker 1: us in our surroundings that these things happen. Because I

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Speaker 1: can't remember a day in which I'm walking through a

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