1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: with IET Radio. 3 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:09,319 Speaker 2: It's the Almost Famous podcast, and we're back with another 4 00:00:09,440 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 2: recap of the HG TV show Bachelor Mansion Takeover. This time, 5 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:20,480 Speaker 2: the contestants made over the pool area. That iconic pool area, 6 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 2: Ashley that I never swam in. 7 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 3: I never swam in it either was too cold. 8 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 2: It's so cold. I remember night one being like, Okay, 9 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 2: there's a hot tub that could be my escape, Like 10 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 2: that's where I would go. I was thinking I would 11 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 2: go there when things got tense, when I just need 12 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 2: to relax, put my feet up, get a little soaken. 13 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:44,560 Speaker 3: So cold, Oh, the hot tub was cold. Our hot 14 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 3: tub was not so cold. I remember it being warmer. 15 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 3: I don't think it was like hot tub hot. 16 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:51,839 Speaker 2: No, ours was cold. Maybe they just I mean, obviously 17 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 2: energy costs. The show was on a stricter budget during 18 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 2: my time. 19 00:00:56,840 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 3: What I think it's the opposite. You had way more 20 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 3: budget than they have now. 21 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 2: No, I just was kidding. Hey, before we dive in, 22 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 2: I do want to give a quick update because of 23 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 2: the social media chatter on my face. I'm going to 24 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 2: zoom in here a little bit to the camera so 25 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 2: you can see Ben my nose is broken. 26 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 3: Smashed they say smashed. You broke into spots. 27 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 2: They didn't know. They didn't say smashed. It's it's just 28 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 2: like it was a straight on him. 29 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 3: It was a smash break. 30 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, So like that's how I'm referring to it. Oh okay, 31 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 2: because they can't set it because it's the break is 32 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:33,679 Speaker 2: like here, So it's just like a chip, like it's 33 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 2: like a fracture. 34 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 3: So are you going to get it done? 35 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 2: My nose done? Maybe I'll tell you if I do. 36 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean I can't breathe out of 37 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:44,479 Speaker 2: this nostril right now, but I don't know if that's 38 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 2: just because of swelling or if it's now like always 39 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 2: going to be that way. So I mean, if I 40 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 2: can't breathe, oh of course I'm one hundred percent going 41 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 2: to get done. 42 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 3: Yeah. I told Jared about you your accident, and he 43 00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 3: was like, oh, he'll be even more rugged with the 44 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 3: broken he should keep it broken rugged. So I was like, 45 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 3: his perfect nose. 46 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 2: I need to see Jared more often. He's so good 47 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 2: for my confidence. 48 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:15,640 Speaker 3: Well, your nose looks like yeah, it's definitely puffey and 49 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 3: it's a little off line. 50 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:18,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, and the black eyes are. 51 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 3: The black eyes? What's most jarring though? 52 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 2: Right now? 53 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's funny because like anybody would look at you 54 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 3: thinking that you got beat. 55 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, not a trash can. And the nurses when I 56 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:33,799 Speaker 2: went in after our last recording, I told this young 57 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 2: nurse the stories. She goes, Hey, could you come up 58 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 2: with a different story because this is going to go 59 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 2: in your permanent medical record. 60 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 3: Oh yes. The nurses just must love you. 61 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 2: No, they think I'm wild, Okay, Ashley. The pool area, 62 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 2: as we were talking about before, is iconic though there's 63 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 2: so many things that have happened by that pool deck. 64 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 2: I remember the isn't Jake and Vienna Their breakup was 65 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:00,800 Speaker 2: right in front of the pool. It can be so 66 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 2: beautiful out there. It just isn't a space that I 67 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 2: think there's one time for or that the show utilizes 68 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 2: all the time. 69 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:13,239 Speaker 3: Well, there's always a pool party there. 70 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 2: Is, isn't there. But I guess for me, the pool 71 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 2: party didn't exist during Caitlin's season. It existed during my season. 72 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:22,640 Speaker 2: And the lead never gets in the pool because we're 73 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:25,119 Speaker 2: being pulled, Like we don't just like get to hang out, 74 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:28,399 Speaker 2: you're getting pooled, you know, pulled to talk to somebody 75 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 2: so often. 76 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 3: Do you remember how much mel used the pool? 77 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 2: I do. I was gonna say that that was probably 78 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 2: the most we've seen at the pool in a long time. 79 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 3: Right, Yeah. Also, I thought that what Joejo commented on 80 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 3: about the fact that you used to sit out there 81 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 3: with just towels down, that was my biggest memory from it, 82 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 3: Like there's no lounge chair. It's like, what's up with that? 83 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 2: That is interesting. I did take a One of my 84 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 2: favorite memories from the show is I was having a 85 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 2: hard time the first week and I took can nap 86 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 2: out by the on the pergola, and I think I 87 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 2: got to sleep for like two hours that day with 88 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 2: nobody bothering me. I do believe they were filming at 89 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 2: some point me like sleeping. But it was very relaxed. 90 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 2: It's a very relaxing spot. 91 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:17,479 Speaker 3: Mm hmm. Yeah it is. It's good. And this was 92 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 3: an episode that I thought, Okay, this really could be 93 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 3: jazzed up for functionality. The other things were more about 94 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:29,600 Speaker 3: like looks. There was some functionality in the bedrooms, which 95 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:33,600 Speaker 3: was appreciated, but this was one where I was like, actually, yeah, 96 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:35,840 Speaker 3: there needs to be more things to do out there. 97 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 3: I thought the wellness retreat area was such a smart 98 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 3: thing to incorporate. All right, so you ready to like 99 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 3: break down who's on what team and such? 100 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, let's dive in, all right. 101 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 3: Well, first off, the episode ends with it begins with 102 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 3: Tammy's elimination, because that's kind of how they've been doing things, 103 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:56,280 Speaker 3: eliminating the beginning and the end, and then we got 104 00:04:56,279 --> 00:05:00,599 Speaker 3: a double elimination at the end of this episode. So 105 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 3: Noah and Dean's fake battle or fake so we think 106 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:09,919 Speaker 3: he's continuing. Noah calls Dean a piece of Yeah. 107 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:12,039 Speaker 2: That was my question to you, Ashley, was do you 108 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 2: think this is fake or is there like I mean, 109 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:19,479 Speaker 2: they're both so like snarky. Uh, they both are kind 110 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 2: of like in that space of you know what I 111 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:24,360 Speaker 2: want to be on TV, but I don't like care 112 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 2: on how this comes off. Do you think it's fake though, 113 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 2: because it does at some point feel like to me, 114 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 2: even knowing Dean really well, where I'm like, you might 115 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:35,039 Speaker 2: be a little mad. 116 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 3: Okay, so it feels more fake and like cute coming 117 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:45,719 Speaker 3: from Dean. Noah does not smile or laugh when making 118 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 3: fun of Dean, So I'm like, are you just like 119 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:52,039 Speaker 3: a better actor or are you taking this, you know, 120 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 3: fake rivalry in like a joke your way or like 121 00:05:57,120 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 3: a more serious way. Because I like Dean style more 122 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 3: because with Noah it feels like there might actually be 123 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:07,720 Speaker 3: like some some tension, but Dean seems like it's all 124 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 3: for fun. I think they love I'm not really okay, 125 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:11,839 Speaker 3: I'm really not one hundred percent sure. 126 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:15,799 Speaker 2: But you remember Noahs season of The Bachelorette. He had 127 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:19,719 Speaker 2: that kind of like ye, yes, snarky, be like go 128 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:23,360 Speaker 2: after people behavior. Yes. So that's where I get a 129 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 2: little bit like, Hm. 130 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:27,160 Speaker 3: Should you text Dean right now and be like is 131 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:27,919 Speaker 3: this fake or not? 132 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 2: Yes? I will text Dean as we're doing this and 133 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 2: ask what the insight is. 134 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 3: So then Jesse comes up with their next challenge. Like 135 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 3: we said pool area, the upper side is going to 136 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 3: be called a pool side oasis. The bottom area is 137 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:46,159 Speaker 3: a wellness retreat. The bottom area, like also Jojo mentioned, 138 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:50,719 Speaker 3: for me, was very rarely utilized. I think maybe I 139 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 3: went down there once or twice, it's just not it 140 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:56,480 Speaker 3: was never a place to hang. I remember the girls 141 00:06:56,480 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 3: that would run like run, they would do lot surround 142 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:03,039 Speaker 3: the house and they would go down there, and that 143 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 3: was like the only time I ever saw it, and 144 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 3: it is it's totally underutilized. This wellness area is such 145 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 3: a good idea because there was no designated workout area 146 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 3: in the house. And did I ever work out? Absolutely not? 147 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 3: Did most people? Yes, including I'm sure you guys. The 148 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 3: weight rock that they added so necessary quote necessary. 149 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 2: Quote quote or useful. I mean it would be like, 150 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 2: I'm with you, where it feels necessary when you're inna 151 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 2: have a house this nice, this big, in that area 152 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 2: where you can be outside so often. M hm, it 153 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 2: doesn't make sense that there wouldn't be some place where 154 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 2: you could get some type of work out in. So 155 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 2: I do think it feels necessary in a lot of ways. 156 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 2: We utilized it just for it. You said we ran 157 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 2: down there a ton. We also had like a makeshift sandbag. 158 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 3: Gym oh okay, see, like it's so weird that for 159 00:07:57,360 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 3: two decades. I guess that house hasn't been used for 160 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 3: two DECs. Kids. Yeah, but like we're getting there and 161 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 3: they just never had any sort of gym equipment. Everything 162 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 3: was makeshift. It was almost as if it was Bachelor 163 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 3: in Paradise down there. 164 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, fair enough, but it did feel I don't know 165 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 2: if maybe this is just me. When you went down there, 166 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 2: you did feel like you were off the television show, 167 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 2: which was nice. It was a little bit a little 168 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 2: of a reprieve. 169 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, I understand. It was definitely a little bit more 170 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 3: of a private area. Let's get to the point where 171 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 3: Jesse says that now the teams are going to be 172 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 3: chosen by they're like, really, I don't know what they're doing, 173 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 3: and see everything's a puzzle. Brandon and no why can't 174 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:45,959 Speaker 3: I ever say the name Brendan. Brendan and Noah are 175 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 3: now the team captains because they were in the bottom 176 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 3: two in the last challenge. Like they're just flying at 177 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 3: the seat of their pants about their decision making here. 178 00:08:56,960 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 3: They're trying to be twisty turney and get people off guard. 179 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 3: Jesse says that the twist is now they have to 180 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 3: choose players for the opposing team, So like in high 181 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 3: school or whatever, when you're choosing I think it's more 182 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 3: like in movies that this happens. But you want to 183 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:15,559 Speaker 3: choose the best players, right, so now you're going to 184 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:18,320 Speaker 3: basically stack the other team with who you think is 185 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 3: the worst players. Brendan wins the coin toss So then 186 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:26,840 Speaker 3: he chooses that he's going to be decorating the pool 187 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 3: sized pool side oasis, and his team will consist of 188 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 3: as chosen by, as chosen by Noah, Brendan, Dean, Jill, 189 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 3: and Sam. This is the team that I would want 190 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:43,720 Speaker 3: to be on just for sake of camaraderie. I feel 191 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 3: like there's going to be a better chemistry. 192 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 2: Well, two of your closest friends are on that, and. 193 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 3: That's probably why I feel most comfortable. Okay, So then 194 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:55,319 Speaker 3: we have the Wellness Retreat team, which will be Noah, Courtney, Joan, 195 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 3: and Alicia. Jesse says they have three days to finish 196 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 3: the challenge. At the end, two people are going to 197 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 3: be eliminated, so we have day one, Like off to 198 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 3: the races. These guys are not getting along on Team 199 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 3: Wellness Retreat. Courtney is not vibing with Alicia. Alicia is 200 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 3: not vibing with Alicia. 201 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 2: Or comment on that for a second though, I found 202 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:26,200 Speaker 2: it entertaining. Yeah, and you and I both know Courtney. 203 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:29,199 Speaker 2: I just spoke with her for an hour and a 204 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 2: half a couple of weeks ago. She is such a 205 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 2: wonderful human, she really is, and she really wanted this 206 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 2: opportunity to kind of get that fresh start. She said 207 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 2: it in episode one, right, if we look back, this 208 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 2: was a fresh start. But I I mean I said 209 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 2: this during our breakdowns. When you start working on projects 210 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:54,839 Speaker 2: and when you start caring about the outcome of the project, 211 00:10:55,720 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 2: I think perfectionists will have some irritability with others because 212 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 2: you're asking a bunch of leaders and people who have 213 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:10,560 Speaker 2: strong opinions to follow each other, and the loudest voices win. 214 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 2: I what I don't want, and it could come off 215 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:16,720 Speaker 2: this way, but what I don't want is for anybody 216 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 2: to watch is and be like that Courtney girl. No, 217 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 2: she's amazing, She's a fantastic. 218 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 3: I don't even think that. I actually think that Joan 219 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 3: and Alicia are not being mean girls. 220 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:30,200 Speaker 2: That's just not in Jones DNA. 221 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 3: Though they're kind of giving her attitude. There is a 222 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:39,080 Speaker 3: ganged up feeling about it. I will say, you're totally right. 223 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 3: These are like three Type A girls who are having 224 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:46,440 Speaker 3: to like in a team setting, go back and forth 225 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:49,200 Speaker 3: between type being Type A and Type B. And for 226 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 3: some reason there's a better friendship chemistry between Joan and 227 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 3: Alicia that's keeping them just more cordial in this competition setting. 228 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:02,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, so we know Joan so well's she 229 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 2: again is a sweet, wise, kind human. Yeah, I think 230 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 2: the factor here and I actually love this And I 231 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 2: wish when you said earlier, this has been such a 232 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 2: twisty attorney show. There seems to be no consistency on 233 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 2: how people are getting eliminated and how teams are being picked. 234 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:21,679 Speaker 2: I wish they would have made that happen, because it 235 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 2: would have helped us follow along a little easier and 236 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 2: not be so thrown off every episode. But I think 237 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 2: the show in its own right has something very substantial 238 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:34,719 Speaker 2: in the fact that they are getting people in who 239 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 2: are very passionate about the work being done, and passion 240 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 2: brings out this level of intensity that is exciting to watch. 241 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 2: I like that these contestants care not about necessarily winning 242 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 2: the show yet it's so early on, but they care 243 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 2: so much about the projects being done. And I think 244 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:54,080 Speaker 2: that's where we see it in Joan. I don't know 245 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 2: Alicia well enough to comment on it, but I think 246 00:12:56,520 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 2: she just really cares, and as a result, this like 247 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:02,960 Speaker 2: work mentality is coming in where it's like, no, we 248 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:05,480 Speaker 2: need to get it done in this way, and maybe 249 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 2: her and Alicia just see the outcome and the project 250 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 2: in a more similar fashion. 251 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 3: I do like kind of love those seeing Courtney's not 252 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 3: really it's like the reminiscent of old what is it 253 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:25,560 Speaker 3: twenty ten? Courtney is fannic. Yeah, like just seeing her 254 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 3: make like an facial expression here or there. I love 255 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:35,839 Speaker 3: her and arrival her situation. She's just funny about it. 256 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 3: And I felt bad when they were like, she's using 257 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 3: the mom card. I'm like, I we have like kids 258 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:44,960 Speaker 3: of similar ages, and I'm just like, it's not a 259 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 3: mom card. Like, it's just your life at this point, 260 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:50,440 Speaker 3: and you can't avoid it. It's just infiltrated in you. 261 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:55,560 Speaker 2: Ah yeah, now it's fair. I mean, it's it is 262 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 2: the not excuse for everything, but you can't. It's kind 263 00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 2: of you can't filter your life through any other lens 264 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 2: other than the fact that like that is the thing. Yeah, 265 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 2: you know obviously Jones. 266 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 3: As well, but yeah, yeah, exactly. Okay, Well, then let's 267 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 3: talk about what they're talking about doing for the hit. 268 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 3: It the pool area. They want to grill up there, 269 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 3: which is a great idea. I can't believe that there's 270 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 3: not a grill out there and a keg so that's cool. 271 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 3: They want to repurpose the artwork that was taken from 272 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 3: the bunk room. This ends up being kind of a 273 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 3: controversial move because the girls team won that challenge and 274 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 3: now there's another team that's not the team that took 275 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 3: down that artwork that's going to be using it. And 276 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 3: I think there was a comment like whatever's taken down, 277 00:14:56,720 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 3: you can't repurpose, and they end up doing it and 278 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 3: it does look great. 279 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 2: That just doesn't make sense to me. Do you repurpose 280 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 2: stuff in your house of course all the time. 281 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, and especially something like that, which knowing what the 282 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 3: door is like in that house, it's like from India, 283 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 3: like handcrafted, imported, like it like weighs like three hundred 284 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 3: pounds on each side. That this thing was definitely worth 285 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 3: something very like it was a very high value piece 286 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 3: and it should be. I get what they're saying though, 287 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 3: They're like, you can't use something that we want, you know, 288 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 3: one with but whatever, and then what else are they 289 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 3: gonna add? Oh, downstairs and the wellness retreat, They're gonna 290 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 3: of course make the bar, like we notice they're gonna 291 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 3: have a juice bar. They're gonna have an outdoor shower, 292 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 3: and sauna. Love both of those ideas, because one, there's 293 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 3: not enough showers in the house. You might actually have 294 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 3: a more private shower experience if you're down there. Of 295 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:52,239 Speaker 3: course you'll be wearing a bathing suit. I would assume 296 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 3: having a sauna is such a good idea. And then 297 00:15:57,480 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 3: they have the argument over the fact that Fortnaney wants 298 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 3: to add turf and Joan does not. Gorney also wants 299 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 3: string lights, which I think would be necessary and add 300 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 3: to the ambiance. And you can use the whole situation, 301 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 3: the whole atmosphere at night if you have the lights on, 302 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 3: and that would be a great place, not just for 303 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 3: rose ceremonies and such that would maybe feel a little 304 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 3: bit weird to have them downstairs in like a gem area, Yeah, 305 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 3: but it would be so good for people that want 306 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 3: to have workouts at night because it is so hot 307 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 3: in that area in September during the day. 308 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 2: You know, so many of these if you pull back, 309 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 2: and I wonder if the contestants watching this feel this way. 310 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 2: So many of these arguments feel so minor. Right, you 311 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 2: need lighting, uh, and I think string lights are so 312 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 2: in Are they still in? 313 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 3: Well? Where are you used to put what else, so 314 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 3: you have put lamps out there? How else you can 315 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 3: get floodlights? No, the string lights made the most sense. 316 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 3: I also when being the final product, was like, what 317 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:05,879 Speaker 3: would you have put there if you didn't put turf? 318 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 3: Turf was a perfect gym floor for the outside. 319 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:14,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, because I mean you can't. There's very few options 320 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:17,640 Speaker 2: when it comes to an outdoor workout area other than 321 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:24,119 Speaker 2: turf or the padding concrete. All these ideas are and 322 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 2: everybody's having good ideas. I just think everybody here is 323 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 2: getting stuck in a vision of their own and at 324 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 2: some point, if you were smart during this, you're just 325 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:38,960 Speaker 2: a really good follower of somebody else's vision. But all 326 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:43,119 Speaker 2: these people are so visionary, Yeah that they come in 327 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 2: as soon as they hear oh we're going to design 328 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 2: a workout area or we're going to design the oasis, 329 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:50,840 Speaker 2: they say this is what it's going to look like, 330 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:52,239 Speaker 2: and then they just run with it. 331 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, they should have thrown some of us new like 332 00:17:56,800 --> 00:18:01,400 Speaker 3: non designers in there before that. That's great Ideah. I 333 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 3: love that support Ashley knows nothing about interior design, just. 334 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 2: A straight hype team. Then an Ashley hired designers. Actually, 335 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 2: I want to stop for a second and comment on 336 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:23,800 Speaker 2: the Taisha Tyler dynamic. How's that working for you during 337 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 2: the show? Are you enjoying it? 338 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:28,920 Speaker 3: I think they're doing a good job balancing. Yeah, Taisha's 339 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:35,000 Speaker 3: definitely the scarier one, and Tyler he delivers his criticism 340 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:37,199 Speaker 3: a little bit more gently. I just think he's like 341 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 3: kind of a gentle dude. Yeah, what do you think. 342 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:45,440 Speaker 2: I do think there's it's a good dynamic. I am 343 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 2: still it's not it's not because of them. I'm still 344 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 2: in the place where it's too many, Like we have 345 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:53,879 Speaker 2: just too many like leaders right now. We have a 346 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:56,480 Speaker 2: Jesse Palmer with the Tasha and Tyler's and then every 347 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:58,639 Speaker 2: one of the contestants is also a leader in their 348 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 2: own right. It just it feels like it's too much 349 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 2: leadership and like high art, not not even hierarchy, but 350 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:08,200 Speaker 2: it just feels like everybody is trying to get their 351 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:10,919 Speaker 2: voice in and it doesn't really make sense with the 352 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:14,440 Speaker 2: consistency of the show. It almost to me would have 353 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:19,680 Speaker 2: been better to have like three not well known silent 354 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:22,439 Speaker 2: judges who just kind of vote on it and we 355 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 2: just hear the vote more than all these voices that 356 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 2: are always like coming at us. All the time with 357 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 2: their opinions, and this is probably where my design expertise flaws. 358 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 2: When it comes to design and when it comes to projects, 359 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:43,720 Speaker 2: opinion is necessary, and not everybody's going to agree on 360 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:46,119 Speaker 2: the aesthetic they like or what they think should happen. 361 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:49,120 Speaker 2: There's not a right and wrong, So I don't necessarily 362 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 2: want people telling me during the show what was right 363 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:54,400 Speaker 2: and what was wrong More than what I just want 364 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:58,920 Speaker 2: people like sharing personal opinions of and we can make 365 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 2: the judgment from there. That's why I'm like, I don't 366 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:02,880 Speaker 2: know if the judging necessarily needs to be so much 367 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:03,440 Speaker 2: in our face. 368 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:05,920 Speaker 3: Okay, I get that, totally get that. So I guess 369 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:11,960 Speaker 3: that leads us into the cannonball competition, the jumping off 370 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:15,879 Speaker 3: the deck of Okay, so they're going to be rated 371 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:19,640 Speaker 3: one to ten on the creativity of a diving style. 372 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 3: They get assigned and the team with the highest score 373 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 3: will win something big. What they end up winning is 374 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 3: a one of a kind botanical design. They can put 375 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 3: it wherever they want. It's a very silly moment where 376 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 3: like there's like an interpretive dance and dive where they're 377 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:43,639 Speaker 3: like be a jackhammer, be like a you know, a 378 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:49,960 Speaker 3: wrecking ball. Yeah, and you know, there's really not much, 379 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:52,639 Speaker 3: but the Oasis team wins and they get to put 380 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:58,240 Speaker 3: a design up on the arches, which does look really beautiful, 381 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:01,359 Speaker 3: and once they're up, it kind of looks like, oh wow, 382 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 3: that was a missing piece that it should have been 383 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 3: there forever. 384 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:07,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's I was nervous because it's always scary when 385 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:11,240 Speaker 2: you tell Dean to do something like wild to win 386 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:11,919 Speaker 2: a competition. 387 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 3: Oh. He was the best highlight for me. 388 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:17,879 Speaker 2: He'll do anything. If you're like, hey, Dean, go to 389 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:20,119 Speaker 2: this fourth story, jump off and see if you hit 390 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:21,960 Speaker 2: to pool and if you do, you win ten bucks. 391 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 2: I bet Dean does it. 392 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, definitely. Well he was an electrocuted guy and 393 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:29,639 Speaker 3: he did a great job doing it. I also just 394 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:32,440 Speaker 3: want to make note before we move on. Our producer 395 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:36,120 Speaker 3: said that there was a misunderstanding about the art pieces. 396 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 3: The misunderstanding was that they weren't able to reconstruct the 397 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 3: art pieces, like they couldn't cut them in half, but 398 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:46,400 Speaker 3: they could reuse them. 399 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:49,720 Speaker 2: Yeah. Probably because as soon as this thing's over, Marshall's like, 400 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 2: I like those doors. I paid for those doors. Those 401 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:55,159 Speaker 2: are going right back in absolutely. 402 00:21:56,040 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 3: Okay, we have more fights on the wellness team throughout 403 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 3: this day. Courtney wants a monochromatic look with tiles in 404 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:11,240 Speaker 3: the shower wall, Joan and Alicia wants something brighter. What's 405 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:14,439 Speaker 3: funny is like, Noah, he created this team and he 406 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 3: is not in this episode a lot because he doesn't 407 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:31,680 Speaker 3: have a lot of conflict with his teammates. Yeah, Noah 408 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 3: ends up getting a call from home during this Maybe 409 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:37,720 Speaker 3: this is why he isn't like involved in much drama. 410 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 3: That he got bad news from home. He does not 411 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:44,679 Speaker 3: elaborate on what it is, and he says that you know, 412 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:46,639 Speaker 3: he's gonna like kind of focus in on work to 413 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:49,679 Speaker 3: get his mind off of it. And you know, he 414 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:52,560 Speaker 3: just like isn't going to be very sociable. I feel 415 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 3: really bad. I have no idea what happened. And it's sad, 416 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 3: Like if it's so private that he didn't mention it, 417 00:22:57,480 --> 00:22:59,159 Speaker 3: that's like obviously something pretty serious. 418 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, he is such a I think, 419 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:06,199 Speaker 2: no it would be such a fun hang because he 420 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:12,480 Speaker 2: is so he's quick, he's funny, he's snarky. I can 421 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:14,920 Speaker 2: see where him and Dean honestly would get along really well. 422 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:17,520 Speaker 2: I haven't got a text back from Dean yet because 423 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:21,000 Speaker 2: they have such a similar like way of communicating, but 424 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 2: yet they're both so talented and both so driven. But yeah, 425 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 2: I mean that is it is a moment where yes, 426 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 2: Noah does have a personal problem, we do need to 427 00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 2: comment on that and then say we didn't elaborate on it, 428 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:38,239 Speaker 2: which is fine, but he is kind of taking a 429 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:39,920 Speaker 2: back seat, I think during this episode. 430 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 3: Yep, this day is the one where we mentioned we 431 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:50,919 Speaker 3: had the string like controversy, we had the wooden peace controversy, 432 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 3: and the gym equipment comes in. Dean steals one of 433 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:58,680 Speaker 3: their weights and hides it, which is pretty funny. And 434 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:04,239 Speaker 3: then Courtney over to the other team basically being like, yeah, 435 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:07,919 Speaker 3: they don't really like me and they're plotting against me 436 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:11,680 Speaker 3: and Jill. They obviously don't like Jill either, And I'm 437 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:14,880 Speaker 3: not sure why they don't like Jill. Oh. I mean, 438 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 3: we know that al Alicia has like her drama with 439 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 3: her during Paradise and they kind of went in with those, 440 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:27,560 Speaker 3: you know, bad vibes. But why would Joan not like Jill. 441 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 3: I don't get it. She just thinks she's bossy. I guess. 442 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:34,960 Speaker 3: I guess Jill has like a certain edge to her. 443 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:40,480 Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean this show right now, the way they're 444 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:45,640 Speaker 2: doing the eliminations and somewhat even the competitions, it does 445 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:51,480 Speaker 2: feel like personal vendettas will right now at least outrank 446 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:53,400 Speaker 2: worse skill skill. 447 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:57,119 Speaker 3: Definitely. That's why it's weird. It's like, why are we 448 00:24:57,240 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 3: using this competition? Is definitely more of like whose personality 449 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:05,520 Speaker 3: is gonna win out instead of whose skill will win out? 450 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:07,439 Speaker 2: I want to see more of the skill. 451 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 3: Yeah. Same producer Heather is reminding me that they didn't vibe. 452 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 3: Joan and Jill didn't vibe when they were putting together 453 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:16,920 Speaker 3: the bunk room. That is true, but like, really we're 454 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:20,400 Speaker 3: gonna like have design well now, it's just because it's 455 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:23,119 Speaker 3: just it's just too many type A personalities, that is 456 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:23,680 Speaker 3: truly what. 457 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:26,640 Speaker 2: Is going on. That's what that's my takeaway right now. 458 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:29,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, So at the end of it all, 459 00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:32,119 Speaker 3: we have Jojo back. We have not Jojo back, she 460 00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:35,320 Speaker 3: hasn't been part, but we have Jojo here back at 461 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:38,879 Speaker 3: the mansion to be the guest judge. I am further 462 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:42,800 Speaker 3: annoyed that she's not in Tasia's spot and nothing against Tasha. 463 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 3: Love Tasha, but Jojo I just feel like is meant 464 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:48,560 Speaker 3: to be the host of the show with Tyler with her. 465 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:52,480 Speaker 3: You know, that's what she's been doing for over a decade, 466 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:57,119 Speaker 3: flipping home. She went into The Bachelor doing that. She's 467 00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:59,879 Speaker 3: such a good host too, and she's also pregnant, so 468 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:01,479 Speaker 3: who knows. Maybe she didn't want to do that, but 469 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:05,040 Speaker 3: she is such a natural in this role. 470 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:08,639 Speaker 2: Do you know I made a cameo during this episode. 471 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:12,400 Speaker 3: Ben is in a little bit of a cameo. He 472 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 3: They had stars that, Yeah, you're a star of this 473 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 3: HGGV show. They show a lot of you and Jojo together. 474 00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:21,960 Speaker 3: You guys are so cute and soya. 475 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:23,520 Speaker 2: I'm not sure she loved that, and I'm sure I 476 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 2: loved it. 477 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:28,399 Speaker 3: Literally, you guys are just such cute friends. 478 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 2: Now, Yeah, she's a great human. I love judges. She's awesome. 479 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:35,639 Speaker 3: So they're gonna go and they're gonna judge this. The 480 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:39,960 Speaker 3: Oasis team. They love all the lounging places. They also 481 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:43,720 Speaker 3: really love the outdoor grill spot. They love the rose 482 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 3: detail and the grill plates. That is an amazing thought. 483 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:49,360 Speaker 3: That was cute. Love of love. They like the pizza 484 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:53,960 Speaker 3: of him and the repurposed artwork. What they don't love 485 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:59,160 Speaker 3: is that they don't have any interactive elements here, which 486 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:01,920 Speaker 3: I understand and I'm not a game girl. Like if 487 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:05,680 Speaker 3: I see bags or well, what do you call them these? 488 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:08,560 Speaker 3: On the like in New England they call them bags, 489 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:09,959 Speaker 3: which is like the lamest name. 490 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 2: What is the corn hornhole? 491 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you cornhole. It's like the most trashy thing bags. 492 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:17,919 Speaker 2: I don't know if corn hole's any better, though. 493 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:22,800 Speaker 3: It probably is. It okay, So like if I see 494 00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:25,000 Speaker 3: a board like that, I am not gonna play it, 495 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:27,679 Speaker 3: but I know that so many people will, So if 496 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 3: they had that, that would be good. If they had, Like, 497 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:33,960 Speaker 3: I don't know, what's another outdoor game that they could 498 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:34,520 Speaker 3: have been corporate. 499 00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:37,160 Speaker 2: I really like the gay like horseshoes is really fun 500 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 2: and I think it's coming back. We used to, you know, 501 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 2: obviously it was a big thing in the sixties seventies, 502 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:45,240 Speaker 2: was horseshoes where you take a steak put in the ground, 503 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 2: throw horseshoes around it. There is the rich person game croquete. 504 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:55,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, they could have incorporated some outdoor games that'd been cute. Yeah, 505 00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:59,880 Speaker 3: I understand that. Ding they said that they didn't love 506 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:03,640 Speaker 3: a tile. That's what Tyler said, and they didn't see 507 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:06,880 Speaker 3: any big risk taking. They did love all the seating options. 508 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:11,560 Speaker 3: Seating really really was a game changer for me. It 509 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:16,760 Speaker 3: reminded me how little we had out there. And then 510 00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:21,240 Speaker 3: the Wellness Retreat team, they said they loved the gymeria 511 00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:23,840 Speaker 3: and the turf. I was happy for Courtney that she 512 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:28,119 Speaker 3: got that ding ding ding, And then they like the 513 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:32,880 Speaker 3: juice bar. They were fans of the string lights, which 514 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:36,680 Speaker 3: was another woo for Courtney, and they were big fans 515 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:39,240 Speaker 3: of the outdoor shower and sauna. They really didn't have 516 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:44,240 Speaker 3: much bad feedback for them. They liked the faux grass. 517 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:49,320 Speaker 3: They think that everything was intentional design. Jojo or Jojo 518 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:53,200 Speaker 3: did really like the string lights, and then they loved 519 00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:56,280 Speaker 3: the tiles. That was another contention point in the shower, 520 00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:01,720 Speaker 3: so there was really nothing to complain about their considering. 521 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:05,640 Speaker 3: That was the more contentious team. It was surprising that 522 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:08,080 Speaker 3: they ended up winning, but when you look at the 523 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:13,000 Speaker 3: final products, both of them were so good that they 524 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:17,000 Speaker 3: both could have won. But the Wellness one I think 525 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 3: was more. I think actually they were just probably given 526 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:25,480 Speaker 3: the task that was more important, Like we needed to 527 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:30,120 Speaker 3: utilize that space more and we needed to add in 528 00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:33,920 Speaker 3: pieces like that would give contestants piece and that would 529 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:38,360 Speaker 3: give them a workout space. So they probably I mean 530 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:42,320 Speaker 3: they won, I would say, because they were probably just 531 00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:43,200 Speaker 3: given the better task. 532 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 2: Here's two things I want to show I would love. 533 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:48,880 Speaker 2: One is I do believe both these spaces were created 534 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:52,080 Speaker 2: and they needed to be functional and not overdone, and 535 00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:56,640 Speaker 2: so the outcomes for both were functionality. They're gonna get used. 536 00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:58,240 Speaker 2: I would use them if I lived in the house. 537 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:02,680 Speaker 2: They're not outrageous. They didn't like build some like crazy 538 00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:07,040 Speaker 2: sushi counter outside by the pool like it was. It's 539 00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:10,120 Speaker 2: like a very usable space for both these these teams, 540 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:12,240 Speaker 2: and I do think that's important when it comes to 541 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 2: an outdoor setting. Yeah, here's what I would love, Ashley. 542 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 2: And maybe it is because I like Courtney so much, 543 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:21,760 Speaker 2: but I also, you know, love Joan so much. What 544 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 2: I would really love is because Courtney, you know, really 545 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:29,640 Speaker 2: hit a home run with the turf and the string lights. Specifically, 546 00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 2: I would love for them to sit down as a 547 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:36,560 Speaker 2: team afterwards and have like a breakdown of Okay, here's 548 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:39,120 Speaker 2: what the judges said. It's like almost like a confessional 549 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 2: of whose idea was this? Maybe, like that's where Jesse 550 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:44,760 Speaker 2: steps in. It's like, whose idea was the string lights? 551 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,080 Speaker 3: They did that? They did do that that one time. 552 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:50,480 Speaker 3: They were like Courtney, who was the lights? And it 553 00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:53,600 Speaker 3: was Courtney and then Joan was like, yeah, it was Courtney, 554 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:55,360 Speaker 3: Like you know, she acknowledged. 555 00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 2: I just want a little more like back and forth 556 00:30:58,120 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 2: on that, like, hey, will you listen to me now? 557 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:02,280 Speaker 2: I'm not terribly like terrible at this? 558 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:06,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely, yeah, all right, Well next week, Oh, oh, 559 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,760 Speaker 3: holy crap, I forgot about the big thing, the elimination. 560 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,320 Speaker 3: And this is the dumb This was the dumbest elimination 561 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:18,240 Speaker 3: situation possible. What happens is the winning team, which is 562 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:23,760 Speaker 3: Wellness Retreat, needs to choose one person to save from elimination. 563 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:27,680 Speaker 3: On the losing team, the one that ever and again 564 00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:30,239 Speaker 3: it is like, this is what Heather and I had 565 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:33,040 Speaker 3: the biggest complaints about last week. Are you saving someone 566 00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:36,480 Speaker 3: based on personality? Are you saving somebody from something like 567 00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:42,840 Speaker 3: because of merit and skill? So doesn't make any sense. 568 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:44,880 Speaker 3: Are you gonna have the best designer at the end 569 00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:47,640 Speaker 3: of this competition or are you gonna have the most 570 00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:52,480 Speaker 3: liked person Anyway, so they end up saving Sam. Sam 571 00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:54,760 Speaker 3: is the one that everybody seems to have not so 572 00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:59,080 Speaker 3: many issues with Sam. Now Sam, Yeah, I know, great 573 00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:01,479 Speaker 3: for Sam because he was he was contentious on his season. 574 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:05,640 Speaker 3: Sam now has to choose one member of his own 575 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:09,840 Speaker 3: team to save. He chooses to save Dean. Was this 576 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:14,440 Speaker 3: choice because he feels like Dean would have been eliminated 577 00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:17,120 Speaker 3: just because of like personal drama That could be it? 578 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:20,120 Speaker 3: Or is it based on merit that could also be it. 579 00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:25,440 Speaker 3: Then that means that by process of elimination, Jill and 580 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:30,800 Speaker 3: Brendan are now eliminated. They are both excited, they say, 581 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:35,720 Speaker 3: to be leaving the toxic situation, which is Joan and Alicia. 582 00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:39,920 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, this is this is so dramatic, like this 583 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:42,840 Speaker 3: was seeming like something that happened on the Regular Show. 584 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:47,960 Speaker 3: Because Jill says in Alicia's ear as she's leaving, don't 585 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:53,000 Speaker 3: ever lie about me again. Alicia looks confused by this. 586 00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:57,600 Speaker 3: It seems to be in regards to what possibly Courtney 587 00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:00,440 Speaker 3: brought up to Jill earlier in the episode about like, 588 00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:04,480 Speaker 3: you know, bringing her down. Yeah, and that, yeah, she 589 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:07,640 Speaker 3: was trying to vote Courtney off in the last challenge 590 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:08,080 Speaker 3: and all that. 591 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:11,040 Speaker 2: I mean, let's be honest, you're getting a bunch of 592 00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:14,120 Speaker 2: bachelor and bachelorette people together in one house like drama 593 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:17,320 Speaker 2: will ensue and exist, and it's it's part of the 594 00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:22,560 Speaker 2: fun of it all. But there are some past relationships 595 00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:26,680 Speaker 2: that have obviously that are obviously still affecting this. I'm 596 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:31,560 Speaker 2: enjoying watching this. Actually, I'm enjoying seeing the mansion again 597 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:36,680 Speaker 2: and being renovated. What I don't love about this seat 598 00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:39,959 Speaker 2: show so far is the consistency. I don't know what 599 00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:41,880 Speaker 2: each episode is going to bring and how people are 600 00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:43,640 Speaker 2: going to be eliminated, and how people are going to 601 00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:47,480 Speaker 2: win and not win. That part is frustrating to me. 602 00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:51,400 Speaker 2: I'd say the part that's most frustrating to me, though, 603 00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:55,040 Speaker 2: is the fact, as you said, it is a friendship 604 00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:57,720 Speaker 2: battle more than it is a skill battle. It is 605 00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:01,560 Speaker 2: it is who who's friends with who? And how are 606 00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:04,920 Speaker 2: we going to keep my closest friend around more than 607 00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:08,239 Speaker 2: it is that the most and maybe it has worked out. 608 00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:09,879 Speaker 2: I don't even know at this point who the most 609 00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:13,960 Speaker 2: skilled person is. Necessarily that hasn't been highlighted, and I 610 00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,000 Speaker 2: think that's what I was really excited about when it 611 00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:17,880 Speaker 2: came to the show, was seeing these people that we 612 00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:20,040 Speaker 2: know and that we love and that we've been around 613 00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:23,760 Speaker 2: also show off their skills and who rises to the top. 614 00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:26,080 Speaker 2: Maybe for the rest of the season we'll see that. 615 00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:27,759 Speaker 2: I haven't seen it yet. It just feels like a 616 00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:30,920 Speaker 2: friendship battle, and that's to me. It's like a little 617 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:32,919 Speaker 2: petty maybe would be the word I would use. 618 00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:36,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree. Heather and I were talking last week 619 00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:38,400 Speaker 3: about how it should have been like some point system 620 00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:41,320 Speaker 3: and there shouldn't have been eliminations, but like everybody should 621 00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:42,960 Speaker 3: have gotten a certain amount of points or like the 622 00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:46,320 Speaker 3: team itself, and then over the week, if the team 623 00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:50,240 Speaker 3: you like hold the number that your team got that week, 624 00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:54,200 Speaker 3: and then whoever had been on the most successful teams 625 00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:57,239 Speaker 3: throughout the entire thing would have won out. This would 626 00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:59,279 Speaker 3: have made way more sense. And I just want to 627 00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:05,520 Speaker 3: clarify because this is a little convoluted. So Jill says, 628 00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:09,319 Speaker 3: don't ever lie about me again, and what we think 629 00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:14,200 Speaker 3: that she's referring to is that Alicia said Jill wanted 630 00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:17,680 Speaker 3: to vote off Courtney in the last challenge, and that's 631 00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:22,279 Speaker 3: what Courtney had heard. So it's all like, you know, 632 00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:25,760 Speaker 3: a little bippin' in the ears, little birdies are talking, 633 00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:29,600 Speaker 3: and so it's all getting very dramatic and it's pretty crazy. 634 00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:33,799 Speaker 3: But next week, and also, sorry, I'm all over the place, 635 00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:36,400 Speaker 3: but I did say that there was one thing that 636 00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:39,520 Speaker 3: Joan didn't have to be fake about because she was 637 00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:43,759 Speaker 3: saying goodbye to Jill. Joan said, like, it was so 638 00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:46,800 Speaker 3: great getting to know you, and it just seemed fake. 639 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:50,280 Speaker 3: So just like just huger and say bye, see you soon. 640 00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:53,200 Speaker 3: I don't think that would have rubbed off on Jill 641 00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:53,799 Speaker 3: very well. 642 00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:57,200 Speaker 2: Jill's great TV. Let's just say that she goes on 643 00:35:57,239 --> 00:36:01,759 Speaker 2: television and she is fantastic to watch. Next week, they 644 00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:06,000 Speaker 2: are renovating the mixer room and the terrace and the kitchen. 645 00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:08,640 Speaker 2: That's a big one. The kitchen. Nate Burkis is on 646 00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:13,760 Speaker 2: the show. Love Nate, Alicia and Courtney are still butting heads, 647 00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:17,440 Speaker 2: and we see a redemption chance for contestants who were 648 00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:21,280 Speaker 2: previously eliminated to compete again. We'll see what that's all about. 649 00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:22,040 Speaker 2: That's gonna be fun. 650 00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:25,200 Speaker 3: So that feels to me like old school American Idol 651 00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:27,239 Speaker 3: wild Card, where it was like if you were in 652 00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:30,000 Speaker 3: a bad group one week, or you were in a 653 00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:32,640 Speaker 3: specific group where there was like a lot of standouts, 654 00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:35,360 Speaker 3: and then you are the one that was eliminated because 655 00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:37,200 Speaker 3: you were in a group of so many standouts. This 656 00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:38,480 Speaker 3: is your chance to get back in. 657 00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:42,239 Speaker 2: I like it. I mean I want to see Jill 658 00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:45,880 Speaker 2: on my television as much as possible. She's always Same time, Ashley. 659 00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:50,160 Speaker 2: Another week of the Bachelor Mansion Renovation Show. Obviously, we 660 00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:52,560 Speaker 2: have a big week ahead of us with Frankie Friday 661 00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:57,200 Speaker 2: with headlines with breakdowns of everything happening in Bachelor Nation. 662 00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:01,240 Speaker 2: It's going to be a blast. You've got to stay tuned. 663 00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:09,640 Speaker 2: And we have the recap of the Bachelorette reunion that 664 00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:14,200 Speaker 2: happened after the Oscars. That's gonna be a ton of fun. Hey, 665 00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:17,880 Speaker 2: that's up next, you'll see it on the feed. Yeah. Anyways, 666 00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:20,560 Speaker 2: until next time. Until this week, we'll where you get 667 00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:23,680 Speaker 2: to hear our voices again and we get to speak 668 00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:28,600 Speaker 2: softly and kindly into your ears. I've been been bye, guys. 669 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:32,920 Speaker 1: Follow the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast on 670 00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:36,160 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio or subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts.