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Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome back to movie Mike's movie podcast. I

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Speaker 1: am your host movie Mike Jam packed episode for you today.

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Speaker 1: First up, we're talking to the directors of Final Destination

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Speaker 1: Blood Lines, Adam Stein and Zak Klapowski, all about the

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Speaker 1: behind the scenes of that movie. We have some movie

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Speaker 1: news because one of my favorite actors has just joined

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Speaker 1: the cast of Spider Man four. In the movie review,

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Speaker 1: we'll be talking about twenty eight Years Later and why

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Speaker 1: it is the most beautiful horror film I've seen in

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Speaker 1: a long time, and how I describe to be a

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Speaker 1: butt drenching movie. And in the trailer park, we'll talk

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Speaker 1: about Jeremy Allen White as Bruce Springsteen in the upcoming

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Speaker 1: biopic Delivered Me from Nowhere, all about the Boss. Thank

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Speaker 1: you for being here, thank you for being subscribed, shout

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Speaker 1: out to the Monday Morning Movie crew. And now let's

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Speaker 1: talk movies from the dust Trolle podcast network. And this

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Speaker 1: is movie Mike Movie popas about to get into my

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Speaker 1: conversation with Adam Stein and zak Lapowski. They are a

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Speaker 1: directing duo. On the set, they are known as Zadam. Basically,

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Speaker 1: they are two guys who can finish each other's sentences.

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Speaker 1: They are that close. They first met seventeen years ago

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Speaker 1: as competitors on a Steven Spielberg filmmaking reality show called

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Speaker 1: On the Lot that started their long lasting friendship and

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Speaker 1: filmmaking partnership. They went on to work for Disney Universal.

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Speaker 1: They directed the indie sci fi movie Freaks, and now

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Speaker 1: are responsible for the latest installment in the Final Destination franchise,

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Speaker 1: which is a big franchise to take on. The movie

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Speaker 1: is about a college student named Stephanie who is having

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Speaker 1: these reoccurring nightmares and realizes there is something going wrong

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Speaker 1: and that death is lurking around the corner. So she

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Speaker 1: this cycle, which is her grandmother named Iris, and hopefully

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Speaker 1: her grandma can save her and her entire family from death.

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Speaker 1: Final Destination Bloodlines is now available on digital and will

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Speaker 1: be on four k UHD on July twenty second. And

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Speaker 1: let's hop into this interview now with directors Adam and Zach.

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Speaker 2: H'm Mike Form Movies Mike Movie Podcast Here.

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Speaker 1: I am so excited.

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Speaker 2: I love all yours.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I appreciate it. I'm a huge comic book nerd.

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Speaker 1: I'm a huge fan of your movie. I love movies

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Speaker 1: that affect my personal life. And after I finished watching Bloodlines,

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Speaker 1: I was driving home, and I've never driven home more cautiously.

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Speaker 1: I was paying attention to every red light. When I

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Speaker 1: go wrong. And this movie just has me even freaked

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Speaker 1: to imagine when you guys are making this movie, does

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Speaker 1: it start to affect your mental state of like, I'm

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Speaker 1: getting a little paranoid because everything I'm seeing every day.

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Speaker 3: It's a mix of both. You're completely paranoid and looking

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Speaker 3: so you're kind of like having this this kind of

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Speaker 1: I could tell by watching this movie that you guys

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we've probably dived deeper than most people have ever

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Speaker 1: Speaking of being a film maker, what was the first

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Speaker 2: For me, it was probably Star Wars, just watching the

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Speaker 1: All great picks. The movie had me just sucked in

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Speaker 2: and they were kind of presenting different options and they said,

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Speaker 1: That is so amazing. I think my second favorite kill

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Speaker 1: My final question is for you, Zach. I was a

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Speaker 1: currently in talks to make a Jennifer's Bar, so her

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Speaker 1: career has benefited from some sequels. She even poked fun

437
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Speaker 1: at some of the movies coming out this summer, calling

438
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Speaker 1: them Fantastic super Park, four Super Parks, four Dinosaurs, four

439
00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:17,280
Speaker 1: Super Dinosaurs. I don't know, she said, I will say

440
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Speaker 1: there is a little bit of fatigue with sequels. I

441
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Speaker 1: want original content. I think it's really scary and brave

442
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Speaker 1: to do it. It's not scary and brave to do

443
00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:31,280
Speaker 1: the sequels. It's just for money and it's frustrating. Then again,

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Speaker 1: I do Mama Mia three in a heartbeat. I feel

445
00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:38,520
Speaker 1: a little bit like that takes away from the impact

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Speaker 1: of what she is saying, because she just contradicted herself

447
00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:44,960
Speaker 1: and made the point for the other side of the argument, saying,

448
00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:48,120
Speaker 1: I'm so tired of sequels. I want to see something new.

449
00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:51,199
Speaker 1: But if you're gonna throw a pile of cash on

450
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Speaker 1: my table, I'm gonna take it to do another Mama

451
00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:57,040
Speaker 1: Mia three. That also just adds to the point of

452
00:22:57,359 --> 00:23:00,760
Speaker 1: actors just need to work and they wanted take movies

453
00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:03,000
Speaker 1: that are gonna be good for their career, that are

454
00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:06,800
Speaker 1: gonna make them money. I think sometimes too, we think

455
00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:10,399
Speaker 1: that every actor is just a crazy millionaire, and that

456
00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:13,560
Speaker 1: is not the case when you look at the breakdown

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Speaker 1: of who they have to pay, how much they actually

458
00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:20,160
Speaker 1: take away from a role like a MoMA Mea three.

459
00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:24,600
Speaker 1: They have to keep working. So it'd be easy to

460
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Speaker 1: say I only want to do new, original movies for

461
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Speaker 1: the rest of my career, but also when you start

462
00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:31,879
Speaker 1: to look at the numbers, you have to do what

463
00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:34,560
Speaker 1: is smart for you. So again, it is a business.

464
00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:37,240
Speaker 1: And as much as I want to romanticize my love

465
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Speaker 1: of film and say that everything should be new and fresh,

466
00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:44,480
Speaker 1: I also think about the people who I've learned from

467
00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:47,560
Speaker 1: doing this podcast, maybe only go to the movies once

468
00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:50,479
Speaker 1: or twice a year. And I think to those people

469
00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:52,320
Speaker 1: who aren't as tuned in as some of us here

470
00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:55,399
Speaker 1: who listen to this podcast, you see the movies that

471
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Speaker 1: are fed to you, that are shown to you through

472
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Speaker 1: commercials and ads on the radio and social media. And

473
00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:06,240
Speaker 1: it is those movies with the big ip that are

474
00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:09,040
Speaker 1: gonna be pushed down your throat the most. And I

475
00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:11,760
Speaker 1: can see where that sentiment comes of, oh, everything is

476
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Speaker 1: just a sequel to remake, because they're trying to get

477
00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:16,320
Speaker 1: to you. They're trying to get to the people who

478
00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:19,000
Speaker 1: do know those originals, who have a relationship with them,

479
00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:21,480
Speaker 1: and that is gonna be what you're fed. You're not

480
00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:24,439
Speaker 1: seeing the movies going under the radar. You're not getting

481
00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:27,080
Speaker 1: the Ballot of Wallace Island. You're getting less of the

482
00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:30,000
Speaker 1: new Wes Anderson film thrown at you and more of

483
00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:33,760
Speaker 1: whatever the Rock is remaking at the moment. So while myself,

484
00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:36,440
Speaker 1: I do want fresh stories, I do want creative freedom,

485
00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:39,080
Speaker 1: I do want to have new experiences in the theater.

486
00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:42,000
Speaker 1: I also see a movie like Elio come out that

487
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Speaker 1: is providing that, even though I don't think what happened

488
00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:49,280
Speaker 1: with that movie is all due to the fact that

489
00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:52,480
Speaker 1: people don't want to support new original movies. I think

490
00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:54,840
Speaker 1: Pixar needs a little bit of a refresh when it

491
00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:58,720
Speaker 1: comes to their character design, their storytelling. I ultimately think

492
00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:00,919
Speaker 1: that is what is going on there right now. But

493
00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:03,800
Speaker 1: also with Elio, I remember seeing the poster and the

494
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:07,080
Speaker 1: quick teaser probably a year ago, and then didn't hear

495
00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:11,040
Speaker 1: that much about it until maybe a week before its release.

496
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Speaker 1: So to some people, that movie just came out of nowhere.

497
00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:16,840
Speaker 1: So again it comes down to them not putting the

498
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Speaker 1: money in the marketing. And when we talk about remakes

499
00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:24,240
Speaker 1: versus new original content, I really think we're really arguing

500
00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:30,240
Speaker 1: hardcore fans versus more casual fans. Hardcore fans are always

501
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:33,560
Speaker 1: gonna want the new, fresh thing that's not attached to

502
00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:36,040
Speaker 1: any ip even though me like I would consider myself

503
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Speaker 1: a hardcore fan, but I also have an attachment to

504
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Speaker 1: a lot of franchises, and I don't mind sequels and

505
00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:45,520
Speaker 1: remakes all the time because I still get really excited

506
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Speaker 1: for those. And then to a more casual person, they

507
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Speaker 1: want to go see something that feels familiar, and that

508
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:52,840
Speaker 1: is why those movies end up in the top five

509
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Speaker 1: grossing movies of the year every single year. So maybe

510
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Speaker 1: it's just a chicken or the egg situation. All right, Well,

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Speaker 1: come back and I'll give my spoiler free review of

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Speaker 1: twenty eight years later. Speaking of franchises, two words to

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Speaker 1: describe twenty eight years later butt drenching. This is my

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Speaker 1: spoiler free review of twenty eight years later. Why do

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00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:16,520
Speaker 1: I call it butt drenching Because I had so much

516
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:20,040
Speaker 1: anxiety watching this movie. It built up so much tension

517
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:23,600
Speaker 1: that I was sweating from the top of my head

518
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:27,080
Speaker 1: all the way profusely down my body and left my

519
00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:33,800
Speaker 1: seat soaked metaphorically, because this was unlike the two previous

520
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:38,040
Speaker 1: entries in twenty eight years later, much more sophisticated. Even

521
00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:40,560
Speaker 1: when the trailer dropped earlier this year, I declared it

522
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Speaker 1: Trailer of the Year because just the visuals, the sound,

523
00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:48,840
Speaker 1: and the trailer alone, I knew I was in for

524
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Speaker 1: something special. And I think because I have such an

525
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:55,760
Speaker 1: attachment to this franchise, because how groundbreaking it was when

526
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Speaker 1: it came out. Because if you look at history now,

527
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:02,960
Speaker 1: you think, oh, we've had zombie movies since seventies eighties,

528
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:05,560
Speaker 1: talking about Romero and all of the greats who have

529
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,640
Speaker 1: handled the genre and really made it what it is.

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Speaker 1: But when twenty eight Days Later came out and where

531
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Speaker 1: it started, where you had this group of scientists working

532
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 1: on chimps, chimps went crazy, killed some people. They throw

533
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:20,960
Speaker 1: up blood on other people, and that's how it spreads.

534
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Speaker 1: And what made those movies different is the zombies weren't

535
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Speaker 1: your typical walking around brain zombies. They were rage filled

536
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 1: because that's what it was, the rage virus, and they

537
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:35,440
Speaker 1: would go around mashing people's faces, throwing up on them,

538
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 1: and they'd infect another person, and they ran quickly, and

539
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 1: that was something at the time we hadn't really seen before.

540
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:45,239
Speaker 1: Some would argue somebody else did it before, but that

541
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:48,119
Speaker 1: was groundbreaking to see a zombie not moving slowly, but

542
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 1: to be able to chase you down, to turn you

543
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:53,240
Speaker 1: into a zombie. And it's not even like your traditional

544
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 1: zombie because they don't act the same way. They are quicker, faster,

545
00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 1: and smarter. And that was even back in twenty eight

546
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Speaker 1: days later, which the first one takes place in two

547
00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:04,480
Speaker 1: thousand and six, twenty eight weeks later took place in

548
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 1: two thousand and seven, and now with twenty eight years later,

549
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:10,679
Speaker 1: we are looking at twenty thirty five. The zombies have

550
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:14,880
Speaker 1: now mutated again, where you have these alphas that are

551
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 1: even bigger and stronger and faster and smarter and are

552
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:22,159
Speaker 1: so sinister like, and what this movie focuses on is

553
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 1: you have a group of people who have moved out

554
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,600
Speaker 1: to this small island where for the most part, they

555
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:29,720
Speaker 1: are protected and they are connected to the mainland through

556
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 1: this little strip of land that when the tide is low,

557
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:35,679
Speaker 1: they are able to walk from their island to the

558
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 1: mainland to go and find you know, wood to burn fires, food, hunt,

559
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:43,600
Speaker 1: and also kill some of the rage filled people who

560
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 1: are living on that island as well. And that is

561
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:49,080
Speaker 1: how they get by because they go, bring their supplies,

562
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:51,360
Speaker 1: come back, and they are able to guard their community

563
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 1: on this island by keeping that border secure. The dad

564
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 1: is played by Aaron Taylor Johnson, who I think is

565
00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 1: a really good actor. He was a great and no swarato.

566
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,400
Speaker 1: Was he the best in Craven the Hunter. No, But

567
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 1: that wasn't really his fault. I think he did what

568
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:06,720
Speaker 1: he was supposed to do. That was just a bad

569
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 1: movie all the way around, and he probably saw that

570
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 1: as Hey, I'm finally getting a leading role in a

571
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:13,719
Speaker 1: movie here, I'm gonna take it, much like Dakota Johnson

572
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 1: probably did with Madame Webb. Alfie Williams plays his son Spike,

573
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 1: which I think it is really his movie. If you

574
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 1: look at twenty eight years later, it is really a

575
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 1: coming of age story because he plays a twelve year

576
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:28,720
Speaker 1: old kid who he's at that age where he's still

577
00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 1: a little bit too young to go venture to this

578
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:34,080
Speaker 1: island to kill the infected, but his dad thinks he's ready.

579
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:37,120
Speaker 1: He's really pushing him. He wants them to be what

580
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 1: essentially he is, be the hero of the town, and

581
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:43,520
Speaker 1: this kid is scared. This kid is not ready for it.

582
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:46,600
Speaker 1: And it starts with their journey into the mainland for

583
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 1: his son to get his first kill, and it's really

584
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 1: focusing on him developing as a human, where I haven't

585
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 1: really seen that in a zombie movie. And I think

586
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Speaker 1: the fact that it takes place in twenty thirty five,

587
00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:00,640
Speaker 1: so long after the outbreak, is what makes this really

588
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 1: impactful and what really sets itself apart, because you start

589
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 1: to think, like, how really would this change humanity? How

590
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 1: would us as people adapt to this? You kind of

591
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:14,880
Speaker 1: revert back to the very early days of just building

592
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 1: a society of you have people in these roles. You

593
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:21,040
Speaker 1: have hunters, you have gatherers, you have fishermen, all these

594
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 1: really essential roles. And something that was stated in the

595
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Speaker 1: very first twenty eight Days Later movie was really impactful

596
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:29,320
Speaker 1: to me, and I rewatched both of the movies leading

597
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:30,920
Speaker 1: up to this to get me in that mindset, and

598
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:33,680
Speaker 1: I got really hype going into this one. But there's

599
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 1: a line in the first movie where they talk about

600
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Speaker 1: how are we going to build a world back after this,

601
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:42,960
Speaker 1: Like how far away are we to getting things back

602
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:45,640
Speaker 1: to how they were? And somebody makes the point of

603
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:49,600
Speaker 1: humans have only existed on this planet for a very

604
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:51,720
Speaker 1: very small time, and I think I looked it up,

605
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 1: and the world's billions and billions of years old, and

606
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:57,520
Speaker 1: the amount of times that humans have been here is

607
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Speaker 1: like point zero five percent of the lifespan of the Earth.

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00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:06,360
Speaker 1: And in that first movie they say, well, really, if

609
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:08,960
Speaker 1: things were going back to normal, it would be us

610
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 1: being gone from this planet for how little we have

611
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 1: been here, And that stuck with me because in that

612
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 1: movie they're just trying to get back to the way

613
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 1: things were before the outbreak, get electricity back, get humans

614
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:24,200
Speaker 1: just back living normal daily lives. And when you think

615
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 1: about it, really having all those things taken away from

616
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:30,840
Speaker 1: us and the Earth just being this place filled with

617
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 1: nature and some other life form inhabiting it that can

618
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:38,160
Speaker 1: survive like that would be the Earth reverting back to normal.

619
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Speaker 1: And this movie is kind of going back to the

620
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:45,760
Speaker 1: very early stages of humanity where it almost feels like

621
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:47,920
Speaker 1: it takes place way back in the day, but really

622
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 1: it's twenty thirty five. We would have to go back

623
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 1: and literally start all the way over. And I think

624
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 1: in doing that and how this movie starts to set

625
00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 1: this whole new stage, which it like a totally fresh chapter.

626
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:04,880
Speaker 1: And the thing about twenty eight years later is even

627
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:07,000
Speaker 1: if you didn't watch the first one, didn't watch the

628
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:10,400
Speaker 1: second one, which is also fantastic, which is also fantastic,

629
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Speaker 1: It has Jeremy Renner in one of his best roles

630
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 1: that kind of goes unnoticed. Sometimes you have rose Byrn

631
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Speaker 1: in there as well, and that one's about asymptomatic survivor

632
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 1: and their kids who try to get saved by Rose

633
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 1: Byrn and Jeremy Renner. But even if you hadn't seen

634
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:26,320
Speaker 1: part one or Part two, you could just watch this

635
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:29,560
Speaker 1: one and those other two now kind of service prequels,

636
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 1: because I think they're resetting this entire world, and the

637
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:36,240
Speaker 1: new franchise kind of starts here again because you have

638
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 1: director Danny boyleback, you have writer Alex Garland back, who

639
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 1: did not write or direct the second one. But this

640
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 1: is kind of the new starting point where they're gonna

641
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,640
Speaker 1: make more movies. I hope they bring back a lot

642
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:50,440
Speaker 1: of these people because I really got invested in these characters.

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00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 1: Ray Fines is just incredible to have an actor who

644
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 1: is so next level to be in a movie like this.

645
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:01,240
Speaker 1: It made it one of the most beautiful horror movies

646
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 1: I've ever seen, because just watching it was a visual

647
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:08,600
Speaker 1: treat where you see this movie filmed on location, this

648
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 1: beautiful countryside, and then these really vicious and heinous things happening,

649
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 1: and there's this big juxtaposition of like, look how beautiful

650
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 1: the scenery is. Look how beautiful of the beach and

651
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Speaker 1: the water is. But then you have this alpha running

652
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 1: at full speed wanting to eat your brains out, especially

653
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 1: early on in the movie where when they're first walking

654
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 1: to that mainland, it's almost like this witch enticing you

655
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 1: with a spell to bring you in. And if you

656
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:36,600
Speaker 1: watch just the trailer alone, you might have heard this

657
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:40,120
Speaker 1: poem that's being spoken over it that's just so haunting

658
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 1: and sinister. It's a poem called Boots, which was all

659
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:56,640
Speaker 1: about British infantrymen, where it's this really repetitive sound and

660
00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 1: you hear the boots marching, and then it gets a

661
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 1: little bit more intense, a little bit more intense, a

662
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 1: little bit louder now, a little bit louder now, and

663
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 1: then it is just all out freaky as crap. That

664
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 1: is how the first act of this movie just kind

665
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 1: of entices you and brings you into it, and it

666
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 1: makes you feel this terror that you don't really know

667
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:19,360
Speaker 1: where it's coming from, because overall this movie is less violent.

668
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:23,160
Speaker 1: I would say the thing that I didn't like about it,

669
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 1: if there was one thing, is I wanted there to

670
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 1: be more action. But that was only because I was

671
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 1: basically it on the first two movies. If I'd only

672
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:31,920
Speaker 1: watched this movie and I hadn't watched the other two,

673
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 1: I would think it's a perfect movie. But I think

674
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:36,839
Speaker 1: how it fits in the franchise, knowing that the first

675
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:39,319
Speaker 1: two are just more action filled. The first one is

676
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 1: essentially a road trip movie where they go and try

677
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:44,400
Speaker 1: to find this military base after hearing a message with

678
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 1: just the hope of finding somebody who has a cure,

679
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:51,280
Speaker 1: and then in the second one, where the outbreak happens again,

680
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 1: where they think they're safe and then they're on the

681
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 1: run again. You're not really on the run in this movie,

682
00:34:56,520 --> 00:35:00,160
Speaker 1: so it's not so much about trying to escape and

683
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:02,839
Speaker 1: away from all of the infected. It's just how are

684
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 1: you going to exist in this world now? So overall,

685
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 1: the story just doesn't have that same level of action

686
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 1: that I feel like the twenty eight franchise has kind

687
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:14,879
Speaker 1: of branded itself with. But it's evolved so much where

688
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:18,239
Speaker 1: it's taking on something maybe not entirely new, but it's

689
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 1: not just one of the best horror films of the year.

690
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:22,719
Speaker 1: It is just one of the best films and it's

691
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:25,760
Speaker 1: really starting to set itself apart. Now, would a horror

692
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 1: movie like this ever be nominated for Best Picture? No,

693
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:31,400
Speaker 1: And that is a travesty because it is that good.

694
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 1: Just because it's a part of a franchise, just because

695
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:36,000
Speaker 1: it's coming out in the summer, and because it's going

696
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:39,800
Speaker 1: to be successful, it doesn't really check all the boxes

697
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:42,319
Speaker 1: of oh, this could be nominated for Best Picture. Ray

698
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 1: find should be nominated for Best Supporting Actor. He just

699
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 1: should because he is that good of an actor and

700
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:51,239
Speaker 1: is that impactful in this movie that it takes it

701
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 1: next level. This was one of the rare movies that

702
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 1: I've seen this year that left me wanting more. Where

703
00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:58,480
Speaker 1: I knew it was starting to get to the final act,

704
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 1: I knew it was about an end, and I thought,

705
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 1: I just need to see more. It is a great reset.

706
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:06,759
Speaker 1: Also just a great introduction if you hadn't seen any

707
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 1: of these movies, which is a really rare thing. In

708
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 1: part three, normally it's so attached to what has come

709
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 1: before it, but for it being what I would consider

710
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:18,319
Speaker 1: to be the first zombie coming of age movie, for

711
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:21,760
Speaker 1: it not only having great visuals but also great sound design.

712
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:23,880
Speaker 1: I just want to pull the sound file from this

713
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 1: movie and drive around in my car and listen to

714
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:29,400
Speaker 1: it like a podcast, because I think just the sound

715
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:33,840
Speaker 1: is terrifying in itself. And I've listened to some horror podcasts,

716
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:35,719
Speaker 1: and I think you could pull the audio from this

717
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 1: and also make a horror podcast like that. I also

718
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:41,280
Speaker 1: just love anything that's filmed on location. I'm a sucker

719
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 1: for the countryside at dawn and dusk in a movie.

720
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 1: I just think that is the best time of day

721
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 1: to film a movie like this. So for twenty eight

722
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:50,400
Speaker 1: years later. I give it a four point five out

723
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 1: of five rage viruses, and that is exactly what I

724
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 1: would rate. Probably all the movies in this franchise, Part one,

725
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:59,720
Speaker 1: Part two, and now Part three are all four point

726
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 1: five at of fives.

727
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:08,239
Speaker 2: It's time to head down to movie Mike Traylor Paul.

728
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 1: In this year is edition of an actor going for

729
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 1: an oscar by playing a musician in a biopick. We

730
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:17,800
Speaker 1: have Jeremy Allen White who will play the boss Bruce

731
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 1: Springsteen and deliver me from Nowhere. It is not a

732
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:25,839
Speaker 1: complete biopick, which I like. We saw this last year

733
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 1: with Timothy Shallo May playing Bob Dylan, and that was

734
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:33,880
Speaker 1: just a small portion of his life based on a book,

735
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 1: and we kind of have the same deal here. The

736
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:39,960
Speaker 1: movie is about the making of his nineteen eighty two

737
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 1: album Nebraska. It is also based on a book. And

738
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:45,320
Speaker 1: the reason I like it when they decide to focus

739
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:47,799
Speaker 1: on a small part of their life that is very

740
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:52,399
Speaker 1: significant is because a music biopick is a big thing

741
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:56,600
Speaker 1: to take on, and oftentimes directors and writers bite off

742
00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:58,720
Speaker 1: more than they can chew because you have these really

743
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:03,239
Speaker 1: iconic people from musicians we've seen have biopics recently, from

744
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 1: Queen to Bob Dylan to Bob Marley to Amy Winehouse.

745
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 1: The list goes on and on, and they do these

746
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:14,879
Speaker 1: so frequently because when you think about making movies with IP,

747
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:17,480
Speaker 1: you think about Fast and the Furious, you think about

748
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 1: Jurassic Park, you think about the mcu well. Musicians and

749
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 1: famous people are kind of like that because you put

750
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:27,320
Speaker 1: this movie out and people know and love them. Therefore

751
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 1: they're already attached to it, and you have a built

752
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:32,440
Speaker 1: in audience. So it's a different form of IP. I feel.

753
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:35,080
Speaker 1: But when you try to make a movie about somebody's

754
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:37,840
Speaker 1: entire life, it is way too much to cram into

755
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:41,400
Speaker 1: a two, sometimes two and a half sometimes three hour movie.

756
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:44,360
Speaker 1: So I instead like it when they focus on this

757
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 1: small little segment of their life to really represent these

758
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:50,799
Speaker 1: people at a very pivotal point in their career, which

759
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 1: we saw with The Complete Unknown last year, and which

760
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:56,400
Speaker 1: is what we're gonna see with Bruce Springsteen here, because

761
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 1: it's after he's had some major success, it's before he

762
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 1: has an even bigger success. Because if you look at

763
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:04,839
Speaker 1: his albums, the one I know primarily is Born to Run,

764
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:07,840
Speaker 1: which came out in nineteen seventy five. This one is

765
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:10,880
Speaker 1: about Nebraska, which came out in nineteen eighty two, and

766
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 1: Born in the USA was the follow up from that,

767
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 1: which came out in nineteen eighty four. So you're getting

768
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:19,400
Speaker 1: mostly young Bruce here. Alongside Jeremy Ellen White as Bruce Springsteen,

769
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:23,240
Speaker 1: you also have Jeremy Strong from Succession playing his manager,

770
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:26,960
Speaker 1: Steven Graham, who will play his dad. Paul Walter Hausa,

771
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 1: who I really enjoy as an actor. You might remember

772
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 1: him as Richard Jewel. He's also done a lot of

773
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:36,400
Speaker 1: stuff recently, like Cruella. He's also going to be Chris

774
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:40,360
Speaker 1: Farley in the upcoming bio Pick. He plays his recording engineer.

775
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:43,560
Speaker 1: The movie is coming out in theaters on October twenty fourth.

776
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:45,920
Speaker 1: Before we talk more about this movie, here's just a

777
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 1: little bit of the Deliver Me from Nowhere trailer.

778
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:50,719
Speaker 3: So three oh five v eight never owned a new

779
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 3: car before. It's awfully fitting for handsome devil rock style.

780
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 4: I do know who you are.

781
00:39:58,239 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 1: Well, that makes one of.

782
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 3: Us and boss, can you do Mike Chuck?

783
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:09,879
Speaker 1: That's trolling out.

784
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:13,480
Speaker 4: Here's what I want you to understand. This is not

785
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:17,320
Speaker 4: about either one of us. This is not about the charts.

786
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:22,120
Speaker 4: This is about Bruce Springsteen.

787
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:26,480
Speaker 1: A lot too Unpacking this trailer. The only thing I

788
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 1: fear so far is that it looks a little bit

789
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:32,239
Speaker 1: and sounds a little bit too over dramatic. You hear

790
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:35,399
Speaker 1: it there where you see Bruce Springsteen going to buy

791
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 1: his first new car. He's talking to the salesman and

792
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 1: he's like, uh, maybe you know better than me. It

793
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:44,279
Speaker 1: just feels very like this forced epic noss that you

794
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:47,600
Speaker 1: always find in music biopics that I just I can't

795
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:50,520
Speaker 1: stand it because they're trying to make all these little

796
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:54,319
Speaker 1: details about them, and these little actions throughout their lives

797
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 1: seem so significant and so impactful, where maybe this was

798
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:01,440
Speaker 1: a big thing. It's like buying this car and then

799
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:04,239
Speaker 1: him struggling with the idea of knowing himself and not

800
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:08,759
Speaker 1: knowing himself. It just feels overly dramatic, a little mellow dramatic,

801
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:12,359
Speaker 1: and it always just comes across as them trying too hard.

802
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 1: But I think that is just the nature of a

803
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:17,960
Speaker 1: music biopick. They all do it. But I hope through

804
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:21,719
Speaker 1: his performance through the entire movie that I'm not focused

805
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 1: on those little moments entirely. That's probably just what they

806
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:27,000
Speaker 1: decided to put in the trailer, and hopefully there's more

807
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:28,920
Speaker 1: to it than that, because if it's that level of

808
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 1: acting and that level of this is so important and significant.

809
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:36,080
Speaker 1: Right now we're talking about the boss here, I think

810
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:39,360
Speaker 1: we're gonna have a bad time. What excites me about

811
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:44,360
Speaker 1: this movie is possibly what is deterring some people from

812
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 1: really buying into it, is the fact that Jeremy Allen

813
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:50,919
Speaker 1: White doesn't look like Bruce Springsteen. He just doesn't look

814
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:54,160
Speaker 1: like him. If you just showed me this trailer and

815
00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 1: you took out his name and you took out the music,

816
00:41:56,800 --> 00:42:00,960
Speaker 1: I would not know what musical figure he is portraying

817
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:04,560
Speaker 1: up until about the last thirty seconds when he's actually

818
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 1: on stage and you kind of see some of his

819
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:10,360
Speaker 1: stage mannerisms, which I think he has really great stage presence.

820
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:15,240
Speaker 1: And Jeremy Allen White was hands selected by Bruce Springsteen himself.

821
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:18,360
Speaker 1: He said, I like this guy. He studied all of

822
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 1: Jeremy Allen White's work, probably watched a lot of Bear,

823
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 1: maybe some Shameless back in the day. Maybe he's seen

824
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:27,800
Speaker 1: some of his most recent movies, like The Ironclaw, which

825
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 1: I'm getting pretty big iron Claw vibes from this trailer,

826
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:33,319
Speaker 1: which I really enjoy. I don't know if that's just

827
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:35,879
Speaker 1: the Jeremy Allen White thing. I'm into that. And if

828
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:39,279
Speaker 1: Bruce Springsteen himself said I want this guy to play me,

829
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:42,440
Speaker 1: that tells me that he probably sees a little bit

830
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:45,759
Speaker 1: of himself in Jeremy Allen White. He thinks it's the

831
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:48,480
Speaker 1: right decision. And I don't always think that the person

832
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 1: has to look exactly like who they are portraying. I

833
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 1: care more about their acting abilities. Can they portray these emotions?

834
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:58,920
Speaker 1: Can they really fit into this character and make me

835
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 1: believe their story? That is more important to me. If

836
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:05,120
Speaker 1: I look back on some of my favorite music biopics,

837
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 1: it's not the people who look exactly like them. It's

838
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:11,560
Speaker 1: movies like Walk the Line with Joaquin Phoenix as Johnny Cash.

839
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:14,239
Speaker 1: Does he look entirely like Johnny Cash? No, I don't

840
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:16,759
Speaker 1: think so at all. If you get too focused on

841
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:19,239
Speaker 1: the way that they look, you're going to miss the

842
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:22,720
Speaker 1: big picture here and not find somebody who can actually

843
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:26,280
Speaker 1: portray them. Sometimes you do get the best of both worlds,

844
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:30,360
Speaker 1: like in Bohemian Rhapsody, wherever Remy Malik had the teeth

845
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 1: put into his mouth to look like Freddie Mercury, which

846
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 1: for that movie they did use some of Ramy Mallik's voice.

847
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 1: They also used old recordings and original recordings from Freddie Mercury,

848
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 1: and the person who supplemented all the other parts was

849
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 1: a guy named Mark Mattel, who just sounds exactly like

850
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:52,440
Speaker 1: Freddy Mercury. So I'm not entirely sure how much of

851
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:55,319
Speaker 1: Remy Mallick's voice they actually use. It could have been

852
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:58,400
Speaker 1: like a few words, a few little portions that they

853
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 1: put in there just so they could say, oh, you

854
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:03,840
Speaker 1: actually hear some of his voice in this movie. But

855
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 1: not the case with the Bruce Springsteen movie, because Jeremy

856
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:10,840
Speaker 1: Allen White says, that's me, I'm singing in this movie.

857
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:13,600
Speaker 1: Here's the interview he did earlier this year with et.

858
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 2: I'm done singing all the movie songs or I sang

859
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 2: everything everything's in the movie.

860
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:22,920
Speaker 1: It's done. No more prep, no more vocal lessons. I

861
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 1: did it. So that is exciting to me, although I'm

862
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:29,879
Speaker 1: not the biggest Bruce Springsteen fan, and maybe the same

863
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:32,880
Speaker 1: thing will happen with me. After I watched Bohemian Rhapsody,

864
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 1: as I was so inspired by that movie, I went

865
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Speaker 1: back and discovered their music. And now I wouldn't call

866
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:40,160
Speaker 1: myself a Queen fan. Before a brief period of time

867
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 1: when that movie came out, I did listen to a

868
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 1: lot of Queen. My Bruce Springsteen knowledge of his music

869
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:48,680
Speaker 1: is really basic. If I made a top three Bruce

870
00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:52,239
Speaker 1: Springsteen songs of mine, it's so basic, I'm almost embarrassed

871
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:55,880
Speaker 1: to admit it, because they're probably everybody's favorite Bruce Springsteen

872
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:58,959
Speaker 1: songs at three, Dancing in the Dark, at two Born

873
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:01,600
Speaker 1: in the USA, and at one Board to Run, which

874
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 1: is actually a song I will seek out to listen

875
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 1: to oftentimes. When I'm sitting here in the studio editing stuff,

876
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 1: working on other projects or other work, I always have

877
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 1: music playing, and that is a song I go to

878
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:16,239
Speaker 1: a lot just because it makes me feel good. I

879
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 1: love the guitars and that the instrumentation. That is my

880
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 1: favorite song of his. But again, that is so basic.

881
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 1: But you do hear Jeremy Allen White singing that song

882
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 1: in the trailer, and I had to go and actually

883
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:31,520
Speaker 1: look and research and find that clip of him saying

884
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:34,799
Speaker 1: that that was him singing in this movie because it

885
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:38,319
Speaker 1: sounded so much like the recording that paired with his

886
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:42,279
Speaker 1: performance on stage in that scene, I thought, clearly they

887
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 1: just pulled the original song and put it over the

888
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 1: footage and slapped it on the trailer and got it

889
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 1: out there. Not the case. So that is so much

890
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 1: more exciting to me that we're actually going to not

891
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:56,360
Speaker 1: only see him as Bruce Springsteen, but hear his rendition

892
00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:59,279
Speaker 1: of his songs. Now are they duping a song? Did

893
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:01,000
Speaker 1: they just tell them say that? And they kind of

894
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:03,959
Speaker 1: did what they did with Bohemian Rhapsody and just work

895
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 1: in some of his vocals because I don't really know

896
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 1: him to be a singer, but it looks like he

897
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 1: went through that process and did it for this film.

898
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:13,560
Speaker 1: So that is dedication, and that is what I'm saying.

899
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:16,360
Speaker 1: You need an actor who is going to go to

900
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:19,400
Speaker 1: those links to take on a role and not just

901
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:22,239
Speaker 1: show up like an Austen Butler and just look like

902
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:26,520
Speaker 1: the person and try to embody them by changing their accent.

903
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:30,319
Speaker 1: I feel like he is still being himself while being

904
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:32,839
Speaker 1: Bruce Springsteen, and I think that is going to make

905
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:36,719
Speaker 1: this story and this movie really resonate with audiences. Will

906
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:38,960
Speaker 1: it get him an oscar though, It's a great question

907
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 1: because last year. I think a lot of people thought

908
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:44,120
Speaker 1: Timothy Chalomeay was really a shoe in to get the nomination.

909
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 1: I thought that was a no brainer. I wasn't going

910
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:48,680
Speaker 1: out on a limb predicting that when I first saw

911
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:51,440
Speaker 1: that trailer. Here we are again with this biopick. But

912
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:54,400
Speaker 1: I just think overall, his performance wasn't the strongest and

913
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:57,680
Speaker 1: he didn't really deserve the Oscar. Jeremy ellen White, I

914
00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:00,360
Speaker 1: feel it's just on the cusp. This would be at

915
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:03,719
Speaker 1: a great point in his career to be nominated for

916
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:06,880
Speaker 1: an Oscar and to win, because after getting snubbed for

917
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:11,720
Speaker 1: The Ironclaw, and how much just great movies and TV

918
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:15,480
Speaker 1: shows he's been putting out recently. I could see that

919
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:18,800
Speaker 1: just in his career happening for him. With this movie

920
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:22,279
Speaker 1: coming out in October, right before Oscar season, I still

921
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:24,719
Speaker 1: think it would be fresh on people's minds. And if

922
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:27,759
Speaker 1: the movie is successful, I think that would add to

923
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:30,839
Speaker 1: the conversation as well. And who knows, if this movie

924
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:33,719
Speaker 1: is successful, Like I was just saying, maybe they start

925
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:36,880
Speaker 1: teaming up some of these musicians, because we have Timothy

926
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:41,000
Speaker 1: Shalloway as Bob Dylan, we have Harris Dickerson, Paul Meskal,

927
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:44,359
Speaker 1: Barry Keegan, and Joseph Quinn as the Beatles. They are

928
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 1: each getting their own Beatles movie, and now we have

929
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:51,440
Speaker 1: Jeremy Allen White as Bruce Springsteen. Maybe they form like

930
00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:55,160
Speaker 1: an Avengers of musicians and we get like an ultimate

931
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:58,200
Speaker 1: movie where they all come together and create some fictional

932
00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:01,239
Speaker 1: concert that never really happened. But could you imagine that

933
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:04,960
Speaker 1: like a connection between all of these storylines. We need

934
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:09,680
Speaker 1: cinematic universes everywhere. Why not with real life biopicks, you

935
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:12,839
Speaker 1: have them crossing over into each other. So if one

936
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:16,479
Speaker 1: actor plays a musician in one movie, they're just set.

937
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:18,799
Speaker 1: They're going to play them in any appearance in any

938
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:21,600
Speaker 1: biopick that comes out after it. My other big concern,

939
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:24,960
Speaker 1: not only with this biopick, but with any biopick, if

940
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:29,200
Speaker 1: it comes out when that person is still alive, that

941
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:33,080
Speaker 1: person is probably going to have some influence on the story.

942
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:36,320
Speaker 1: In this case, Bruce Springsteen worked with Jeremy Allen White

943
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:38,160
Speaker 1: on set. He got to talk to him a lot,

944
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:41,120
Speaker 1: got to get inside of his brain, talk to him

945
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:42,960
Speaker 1: about some of the things in the movie, how he

946
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 1: would do these things. And Bruce Springsteen was very generous

947
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:49,760
Speaker 1: with his time providing that information. But I think also

948
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:53,400
Speaker 1: in doing that him still being alive and having that influence,

949
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:57,680
Speaker 1: even with him signing off on Jeremy Allen White to

950
00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:00,600
Speaker 1: play him, he could have some infla. It's the other

951
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:03,000
Speaker 1: way of what he wants to include, what he doesn't

952
00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:05,839
Speaker 1: like in the movie. Maybe I don't want to show

953
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:08,160
Speaker 1: that part of my life, and I feel like that

954
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 1: changes it because that causes the film not to have

955
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:14,600
Speaker 1: the right perspective if there is that influence. I was

956
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:18,440
Speaker 1: pleasantly surprised, though, with a Bob Dylan movie that it

957
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:21,920
Speaker 1: did show his darker side, his mean streak, and didn't

958
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:25,480
Speaker 1: always portray him in the best light. So it can

959
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:28,160
Speaker 1: be done. But I have a feeling that there were

960
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:32,359
Speaker 1: much more darker things that Bob Dylan was experiencing during

961
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:35,560
Speaker 1: that time that we did not get. So again, I'm

962
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:37,880
Speaker 1: not the biggest Bruce Springsteen fan. I don't know the

963
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:40,439
Speaker 1: lore of his music and his life. I don't really

964
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:43,920
Speaker 1: know how he has inspired so many people, why he

965
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:46,839
Speaker 1: has become as big of an icon as he is.

966
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 1: But I'm willing to learn, and I think this movie

967
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:51,360
Speaker 1: is gonna be the one to do it for me.

968
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:54,560
Speaker 1: So I'm excited for this biopic, Deliver Me from Nowhere,

969
00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 1: comes out in theaters on October twenty fourth.

970
00:49:57,480 --> 00:49:58,600
Speaker 3: Gaid that was.

971
00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:02,359
Speaker 1: This week's edition of Movie B Frame or Bar and

972
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:04,839
Speaker 1: that is gonna do it for another episode here of

973
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:07,279
Speaker 1: the podcast. But before I go, I gotta give my

974
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:10,920
Speaker 1: listeners shout out of the week. This week, I'm going

975
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:13,759
Speaker 1: over to TikTok. I've been posting more clips over there.

976
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:16,319
Speaker 1: I've been getting very strategic with what I post from

977
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:19,440
Speaker 1: the podcast. So if you are a listener of this

978
00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:22,160
Speaker 1: podcast and you also want to see well me actually

979
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:24,840
Speaker 1: in this studio recording things from it, you can follow

980
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:27,120
Speaker 1: me on socials. You can always find those links in

981
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 1: the episode notes, or you can go over to my

982
00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:33,319
Speaker 1: YouTube channel where I post individual movie reviews. Recently, I've

983
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:35,160
Speaker 1: been getting hit a lot about what was that movie

984
00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:37,680
Speaker 1: you talked about that gave you nightmares? That was Bring

985
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:40,080
Speaker 1: Her Back, one of my favorite horror films of the year.

986
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:43,400
Speaker 1: So if you just want to go find that specific review,

987
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:47,000
Speaker 1: go over to my YouTube channel, YouTube dot com, slash

988
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:51,040
Speaker 1: Mike d shro, hit subscribe, hit the bell, comment that

989
00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:53,120
Speaker 1: you're a listener of the podcast as well. Do all

990
00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:55,239
Speaker 1: that over there, But if you just want clips, I

991
00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:58,239
Speaker 1: highly encourage you to follow me on TikTok, which just

992
00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:00,840
Speaker 1: go to the link of my profile because my username

993
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:03,240
Speaker 1: is still messed up over there after I got hacked,

994
00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:06,200
Speaker 1: so I think if you search TikTok dot com slash

995
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:09,200
Speaker 1: Mike Destro, my profile still comes up, but it still

996
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:11,160
Speaker 1: has a weird username, So just click the link in

997
00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:14,520
Speaker 1: the episode notes. But this week I'm going over to

998
00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:18,279
Speaker 1: my comments on TikTok and shouting out stay gold x

999
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:22,600
Speaker 1: Darling who commented on my review of The Materialists and said, yes,

1000
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:25,360
Speaker 1: they don't quite make them like they used to anymore.

1001
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:27,960
Speaker 1: In regard to me being like, why don't they have

1002
00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:31,880
Speaker 1: rom coms with really great movie quotes anymore? There was

1003
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:35,040
Speaker 1: a big discussion online in my comments of a lot

1004
00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:38,760
Speaker 1: of people don't even consider Materialists to be a rom com.

1005
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:41,239
Speaker 1: I do. I still think it falls into the category.

1006
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:44,440
Speaker 1: I think that's how it was marketed towards us. So

1007
00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:48,400
Speaker 1: if somebody declares themselves in a genre, I am going

1008
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:51,960
Speaker 1: to be respectful of that. Somebody puts out a song

1009
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:53,920
Speaker 1: and says this is a country song, I'm not going

1010
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:56,120
Speaker 1: to be like, well, really, it feels like a pop song.

1011
00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:59,759
Speaker 1: If you declare the genre you want a movie to

1012
00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:02,480
Speaker 1: be in, I am going to abide by that, and

1013
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:05,880
Speaker 1: I'm gonna find those elements in the movie that backs

1014
00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:08,719
Speaker 1: up your claim. I think it's much more evolved. I

1015
00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:13,680
Speaker 1: think it is probably more into the romance side, so

1016
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:16,440
Speaker 1: I feel like maybe to most it comes off as

1017
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:18,560
Speaker 1: a little bit more of a drama and the comedy

1018
00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:22,360
Speaker 1: is very subdued, not like it was in the two thousands,

1019
00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:24,960
Speaker 1: where I think most people think like, oh, that's a

1020
00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:27,520
Speaker 1: rock coming to two thousands where things are very wacky.

1021
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:30,840
Speaker 1: I think this is the genre evolving. So there's a

1022
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:32,719
Speaker 1: whole lot of discussion on that. There's a lot of

1023
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:35,520
Speaker 1: discussion on movie quotes. So thank you guys for always

1024
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Speaker 1: being a part of the conversation. That's why I love

1025
00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:40,480
Speaker 1: doing this podcast, So I appreciate that. And if you're

1026
00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:42,840
Speaker 1: super old school and you want to email me your thoughts,

1027
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Speaker 1: Moviemike dat gmail dot com. And until next time, go

1028
00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:50,239
Speaker 1: out and watch good movies and I will talk to

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Speaker 1: you where