Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Kristin Davis, and I want to know are
Speaker 1: you a Charlotte?
Speaker 2: Welcome back everybody to Are You a Charlotte? Part two?
Speaker 3: Thanks for joining us.
Speaker 2: Here we go. All right, let's go back, let's go
Speaker 2: back to this episode.
Speaker 3: But it is fun.
Speaker 1: One of the things which is so obvious obviously, but
Speaker 1: I'm just going to name it, one of the things
Speaker 1: that is joyful about me watching this is that because
Speaker 1: we all know things that happen. Yes, you can go back,
Speaker 1: but we all have this vocabulary which is kind of amazing, amazing,
Speaker 1: and you know, due to our writers. Yeah, writers are
Speaker 1: so important.
Speaker 3: Ye oh my goodness, writers or everything. If it's not
Speaker 3: they are on the page, there's nothing you can do,
Speaker 3: I know.
Speaker 1: I mean, in the beginning of the show, Charlotte wasn't
Speaker 1: really on the page, and I really stressed, you know, quietly,
Speaker 1: because I didn't want to complain.
Speaker 2: Sure, right, I would just be like, oh, and you're
Speaker 2: trying to bring so much.
Speaker 1: You're trying to bring subtext to like nothing that's really there.
Speaker 2: And then luckily as it.
Speaker 1: Went because also we were based on a column and
Speaker 1: a paper that was about gossip in New York, right,
Speaker 1: so like all of them had to be kind of
Speaker 1: fleshed out and deepened out. And obviously Carrie changed in
Speaker 1: her own way from the true Candice Bushnell.
Speaker 2: You know, they deviated pretty significantly.
Speaker 1: But I think for Charlotte, you know, until we kind
Speaker 1: of added some of our writers, and Jenny had grown
Speaker 1: up on the Upper East Side and kind of knew
Speaker 1: that life. And Michael Patrick took some time, Like he
Speaker 1: said to me when he came on the show, which
Speaker 1: was first season Darren Bard him on to write. He said,
Speaker 1: I looked at your character and I was like, I
Speaker 1: don't know what to write for her. And then over time,
Speaker 1: of course he was it came to him and he
Speaker 1: saw me and her and the world, and you know,
Speaker 1: thank god, She's like, thank god it came to it.
Speaker 1: But it is interesting to look back sometimes. I also
Speaker 1: think for myself and you were younger than me. But
Speaker 1: the vibe still in the nineties in New York was
Speaker 1: that not necessarily like the Charlotte versionsion of like married
Speaker 1: with children, but like you were looking to get coupled up.
Speaker 1: It wasn't necessarily clear yet that this kind of growing
Speaker 1: contingency of single women that's we're going to.
Speaker 2: Be like a power move or whatever.
Speaker 1: I don't know how to put it, but you know,
Speaker 1: like at a certain point in the two thousands, there
Speaker 1: would be like at one point they put the four
Speaker 1: of us on the cover of Time magazine and they wrote,
Speaker 1: who needs a husband?
Speaker 3: Wow?
Speaker 2: I have it hanging in my class.
Speaker 3: It makes me Laugh's amazing, I know.
Speaker 1: I remember Ali mcbeales like there were a lot of
Speaker 1: kind of conversation.
Speaker 3: Around that because the assumption before those conversations started was
Speaker 3: that is the goal, even if you also work or whatever,
Speaker 3: like at some point you're going to lay down your career, Yeah,
Speaker 3: to do husband, children, Yeah, all other things.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: It's so interesting to think about.
Speaker 1: But I see it in so many weird details when
Speaker 1: you look back at the shows.
Speaker 2: Like Miranda, I never thought of her.
Speaker 1: But the episode a couple of episodes ago was the
Speaker 1: Chicken Dance where there's a wedding of her interior designer
Speaker 1: meets this guy that she has coming from London to visit.
Speaker 2: It's a long story.
Speaker 1: She has hopes for the guy, but then they fall
Speaker 1: in love at first sight and get married and she
Speaker 1: reads the poem. Carry reads the poem and cries because
Speaker 1: Big gets up and doesn't listen to her poem.
Speaker 2: It's very loaded. It's such a loaded.
Speaker 1: And then the best part for me is that the end,
Speaker 1: we're all standing there, we've gone through a whole drama
Speaker 1: at this wedding, and they throw the bouquet and lands
Speaker 1: at our feet and we're like, okay, bye.
Speaker 3: None of you pick it up. Oh that's awesome.
Speaker 2: I know, it's so great.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's so funny to think that that was
Speaker 1: like new whatever, it was different, Yeah, fascinating.
Speaker 2: Okay, back to the episode. Here we go, Oh, yes,
Speaker 2: Roger's used, poor Roger. And then oh, here we go
Speaker 2: with the Jason throw.
Speaker 3: Yes, Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2: First of all, he's just so adorable.
Speaker 3: Cute god, oh, so funny and wonderful.
Speaker 1: I mean, so funny, wonderful, and like just to watch
Speaker 1: his career another one where like you know, I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't know in his career what he done was
Speaker 1: for how we knew him, but he was definitely.
Speaker 2: Sarah knew him, I believe, And I.
Speaker 1: Think that what had happened with this episode was that
Speaker 1: they were hoping she would get Matthew.
Speaker 2: Oh couldn't you see Matthew in that part?
Speaker 3: Sure?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: I mean yes, and I think that Matthew was like no, no,
Speaker 1: and I think even Sarah was like.
Speaker 3: You know, it's a little weird. Yeah, it's a little weird.
Speaker 3: Like they don't.
Speaker 2: I mean, they did plus a sweep together, which is amazing.
Speaker 3: For sure, but just like a one off and particularly
Speaker 3: what the storyline is, No, that would be so uncomfortable. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and just I think distracting for the audience too, as
Speaker 3: it has been all those scenes being like, oh they're
Speaker 3: actually married, absolutely absolutely no.
Speaker 1: Yes, So I think we were like, hey, Justin, come
Speaker 1: back and just cut your hair and put in some glasses.
Speaker 1: So we meet Justin. They're adorable, they're both writers. They
Speaker 1: met at a pen luncheon, which I love, and then
Speaker 1: that she gives him advice about, you know, what he
Speaker 1: should or shouldn't wear.
Speaker 2: She says, never go shirt sleeveless.
Speaker 1: He's going to do a GCU GQ shoot because she says,
Speaker 1: no one ever gets nominated for a Pulitzer after they've gone.
Speaker 3: Taking their shirt off. Yes, yeah, too funny.
Speaker 1: But then later on he takes a shirt off and
Speaker 1: it's great, thank god, but that's not the photo shoot.
Speaker 3: So then we go we meet the.
Speaker 1: Family and this is kind of the background of the
Speaker 1: theme of the story, which is are you dating the
Speaker 1: person or the family? Do you feel more strongly about
Speaker 1: the family than the person, because you can tell once
Speaker 1: they get there. Not that she doesn't seem into him,
Speaker 1: she does, she does.
Speaker 3: But she really likes really something.
Speaker 1: Yes, they really are and they're so kind of quintessentially
Speaker 1: New York. The dad is a professor at Columbia. The
Speaker 1: mom is a writer, documentarian documentaryian who reads Carrie's a
Speaker 1: column tells her she's an icon, which kind of cragged
Speaker 1: me out because it's Valerie Harper saying it. I mean,
Speaker 1: I was like, Wow, I don't remember any of this
Speaker 1: is amazing, and they have these kids and there's.
Speaker 2: A lot of good food in New York and.
Speaker 1: Right, it's awesome and you can tell that Carrie loves it.
Speaker 1: Oh and the girls are named Franny and Zoe, Yes,
Speaker 1: which God's so funny, so funny. So then Carrie is
Speaker 1: obviously very seduced by that life, by the lifestyle and
Speaker 1: the kind of thoughtful you know, conversation and characters and whatnot.
Speaker 2: Now we're back, we're at the park. We discussed the.
Speaker 1: Hitting on the head the child, which is so crazy
Speaker 1: about the divorce.
Speaker 2: Oh now we're at my house.
Speaker 1: I love that I'm suddenly just making everybody muffin, so Charlotte.
Speaker 2: Because the muffin will fix that brother marriage problem.
Speaker 1: I know it's sad, but it's kind of funny. So
Speaker 1: here I am with my brother, my poor brother who
Speaker 1: we're never going to see her again.
Speaker 2: It's so crazy to watch, but.
Speaker 1: It's funny because I also felt like like there's like
Speaker 1: a weird vibe between me and the brother. Do you know,
Speaker 1: like it doesn't seem that comfortable, Like I'm kind of
Speaker 1: cheerful and trying to cheer him up, but it doesn't
Speaker 1: seem like.
Speaker 3: We're actually have a real relationship.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because he's like you don't even know, you know,
Speaker 1: he's kind of like mad and like you don't even know.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh yeah, And then I love that
Speaker 1: I do try to give him advice, like why did
Speaker 1: you try?
Speaker 3: And he's like, when was the last time you had
Speaker 3: a long term relationship?
Speaker 2: And I'm like, go, yeah, good call, good call.
Speaker 1: Brother, that's right, that's right, put me in my place.
Speaker 1: But the adorable thing, I'm just going to tell the
Speaker 1: whole storyline now because it is so hysterical. So we
Speaker 1: see the brother. I tell everybody about the brother. They
Speaker 1: make fun of the brother. Then I want to introduce
Speaker 1: him to my friends, meaning Carrie. And Carrie brings Samantha,
Speaker 1: and I'm all like, weirdly, I mean, it's almost like
Speaker 1: a high school yes, right, Like it's not Charlotte at
Speaker 1: her most mature, as you know, not at all.
Speaker 3: But then I didn't mind, because family sometimes we do
Speaker 3: kind of regress.
Speaker 2: That's a good point. No, that's very valid.
Speaker 1: It's very valid because I think also we were not
Speaker 1: afraid to show our characters bad you know, qualities or whatever,
Speaker 1: their shortcomings.
Speaker 3: So to speak to.
Speaker 2: How I did that, that was good.
Speaker 1: So they Carrie brings him, brings Samantha, and of course
Speaker 1: Samantha takes one look at him and either takes one
Speaker 1: look at her. Next thing, you know, is the morning
Speaker 1: at my apartment and I walk out and Samantha's there
Speaker 1: without any pants on, trying to find coffee filters, and.
Speaker 3: I'm like, what are you doing there?
Speaker 1: And then she is oblivious and kind of adorable. It's
Speaker 1: coffee for all of us. It's so cute, you know,
Speaker 1: shame in a way that Charlotte couldn't just be like, yeah,
Speaker 1: Samantha's here, Yeah, you.
Speaker 3: Know how great we have breakfast together. It's true, It's true.
Speaker 1: I kind of felt that way when I walked in,
Speaker 1: like it have been adorable, but not for Charlotte, because
Speaker 1: has judgements and les absolutely So then I say this
Speaker 1: very mean thing that she should be in the guidebook
Speaker 1: for New York because she's open all the time, which
Speaker 1: is like such an dick thing to say. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And luckily she leaves and she does look really hurt.
Speaker 3: Yeah, very genuinely hurt.
Speaker 2: She really does.
Speaker 3: And your brother stands up for her and goes after,
Speaker 3: which is nice.
Speaker 1: Nice, that was really nice, And also then connects back
Speaker 1: to when he tries to say to me, you know,
Speaker 1: this is what really happened. I haven't had sex in
Speaker 1: two years, and she made me feel great. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: that does seem to land for Charlotte. Thank god. I
Speaker 1: feel like that's like a good moment of Charlotte learning something, yes,
Speaker 1: And so luckily then I make muffins for Samantha, you guys, and.
Speaker 2: Go to her door, and she luckily forgives me.
Speaker 1: I say I'm sorry, and then she smacks me on
Speaker 1: the butt, which is something she always did, which is interesting.
Speaker 1: That was Kim ADLERB that she was very fond of
Speaker 1: and I was always like.
Speaker 3: But it was fine.
Speaker 1: It was kind of an interesting thing because it's like
Speaker 1: kind of an old fashioned masculine energy thing.
Speaker 2: Yes it is, yeah, yeah, but.
Speaker 3: Man also like a generational that you guys are friends,
Speaker 3: but also you're a kid too, like and.
Speaker 1: Definitely definitely, definitely it's very it's very loving and funny
Speaker 1: in a weird way, unexpected and funny. And I also
Speaker 1: can you can tell that I don't expect her to
Speaker 1: do it, which is also funny because she she she
Speaker 1: does do it off and on throughout the years. Now
Speaker 1: this is the whole thematic situation. No, yes, oh good, Yes,
Speaker 1: thematics are so good about the family and I love this.
Speaker 1: Oh this is oh the Justine. Yeah, we didn't talk
Speaker 1: about Justin's poor problem. It's not Justin, of course, it's
Speaker 1: the character. It's the character. So this is the sad,
Speaker 1: sad thing. And I felt so bad for Carrie in
Speaker 1: this whole storyline. I hadn't remembered this at all. Right,
Speaker 1: so I'm basically like a first time viewer because you're
Speaker 1: thinking this guy is fantastic.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's adorable, he's a writer. His family is awesome. Yes,
Speaker 3: And then they start.
Speaker 2: Making out in Carrie's kitchen and then he, you know, ejaculates.
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna have to say it.
Speaker 2: So he has like, what was it called has sure,
Speaker 2: thank you, premature ejaculation.
Speaker 3: It's terrible. It's terrible, you.
Speaker 1: Know, and poor Carrie just looks like kind of like, oh, dear,
Speaker 1: And then you can see that she's like, the wheels
Speaker 1: are turning, the wheels are churning.
Speaker 2: What do I do? How do I?
Speaker 1: And you know, at a certain point, once she meets
Speaker 1: the family, then she just wants talk about the family.
Speaker 1: And then at one point he goes, I think this
Speaker 1: would be the next thing, and he goes, oh, I
Speaker 1: don't want to talk about my family right now because
Speaker 1: they're kissing right But she now is kind of infatuated
Speaker 1: with his mother in a way, which is adorable. But
Speaker 1: of course he wouldn't want to talk about his mother.
Speaker 1: Oh I love the part where he So she has
Speaker 1: a scene with the.
Speaker 2: Mother played played by Valerie.
Speaker 1: Harper, when Valerie Harper says, I always talk very openly
Speaker 1: to my case my children since they were two and
Speaker 1: of course as a mom, I'm thinking like that, it's
Speaker 1: amazing she did that, right, then, come to find out
Speaker 1: Justin's character says Carrie. When Carrie tries eventually to talk
Speaker 1: to him about this, he goes, I'm so sick.
Speaker 2: Of talking about sex, says I was two years old, right,
Speaker 2: And you're like, ooh, backfire, backfire situation.
Speaker 3: But it's so sad too, because you know, they try
Speaker 3: a few times and they keep running into the same problem,
Speaker 3: and eventually Carrie is like, we're going to take it slow,
Speaker 3: and she's really trying to like not bail, you know,
Speaker 3: she's trying to actually, and he just cannot talk about it.
Speaker 3: He cannot deal, he cannot try to work it out.
Speaker 2: And he seems mad mad, which is not good.
Speaker 1: That's the main problem, because my feeling is you can
Speaker 1: work on anything.
Speaker 3: People stay open and communicate and yeah, yeah, but he can't.
Speaker 2: No, he's mad.
Speaker 1: And it's so sad because there he's shirtless, he's like
Speaker 1: so dreamy, he's justin you know, but yet I can't
Speaker 1: even talk to her about it, and he seems mad
Speaker 1: that she's trying.
Speaker 2: Yes, and that's a terrible trait.
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, that's just like if you can't have communication,
Speaker 3: then that's yeah, there's nothing you're doing.
Speaker 1: No, no, and it's really sad. And then she realizes
Speaker 1: that she really has to break up.
Speaker 2: With his mother and that's so sad, and have your
Speaker 2: wonderful scene.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you guys go back.
Speaker 1: You go. We're back at the apartment with the family,
Speaker 1: and everybody's perched on like kind.
Speaker 3: Of small furniture, yes, living room.
Speaker 2: We're all just started around with our plates of Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's so cute, and you are the girlfriend.
Speaker 3: I'm this girlfriend of Justin's little sister, got it? Got it?
Speaker 2: Which is Franny or Zoe? Don't know one of them.
Speaker 3: I think Zoe got it? Yeah, one of them?
Speaker 2: And you got did they say you're going can We're going?
Speaker 3: Valerie at one point is like, oh, whichever one it
Speaker 3: is tells me that you're going camping, which I thought
Speaker 3: was really funny because even though this family is amazing
Speaker 3: in all the things, there's also is a sense that
Speaker 3: like that mother definitely inserts herself into her children's lives
Speaker 3: and Sarah and I she has this voiceover. Sarah and
Speaker 3: I had this moment looking at each other, and she
Speaker 3: has this voiceover where she says something like because you're outsiders.
Speaker 3: We're outsiders. Like Jem and I looked at each other
Speaker 3: like the people. I can't remember exactly something like we
Speaker 3: didn't have the passports and yeah, and there was a
Speaker 3: feeling of like even though it's amazing to have like
Speaker 3: a family like that, like within reason, like at some
Speaker 3: point the mothers, yeah, to give their children the space
Speaker 3: absolutely to run there.
Speaker 2: Absolutely they know it's almost too close.
Speaker 3: It's most two.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have a family I know who's like this
Speaker 1: and everyone every family member is amazing.
Speaker 2: But the boys in the family have.
Speaker 1: Challenges when it comes to the girlfriends in terms of
Speaker 1: everyone approving friend or accepting.
Speaker 2: And I feel for.
Speaker 1: Them because, like, on the one hand is the closeness,
Speaker 1: Like just as a mother, you look at that and
Speaker 1: you think, like, isn't that amazing you have your grown children,
Speaker 1: You're so close, right, doesn't that feel wonderful? But then
Speaker 1: also you need enough space that.
Speaker 3: They can make their own new life try trying and
Speaker 3: choose people, right, It's interesting and that like when when
Speaker 3: Carrie then is like I'm going to leave because justin
Speaker 3: throw is like banging around and basically having.
Speaker 2: Having a grown, grown tantrum and Rhoda I most saying.
Speaker 2: Jeff is like it's a there's to ignore him. He's like,
Speaker 2: where is it?
Speaker 3: Yeah? So Carrie tries to leave, and you know, value
Speaker 3: Happer's character like follows her and and basically says, look,
Speaker 3: his last girlfriend was less discreet, and you know, is
Speaker 3: it's I know, I know the problem is in the
Speaker 3: irony that he's a short story writer. Why yeah, And
Speaker 3: Carrie's like, I cannot discuss this with you about anything.
Speaker 2: It's like, no, that's mortifying.
Speaker 3: That's mortifying. It really is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, But I mean
Speaker 2: this is the other thing that went through my head.
Speaker 1: I'm thinking to myself, like the mom needs to get
Speaker 1: him into some therapy, yes, right, Like if she's more
Speaker 1: love it, then she just actually.
Speaker 2: Be productive and yet help the actual problem.
Speaker 3: He needs talk therapy and also like a doctor, a
Speaker 3: doctor help work. There there's things that can be done, right, yeah,
Speaker 3: I think they think there is.
Speaker 2: Aren't there commercials for this ed?
Speaker 3: Yes, there are. I don't know what.
Speaker 2: I don't know back in the day, but I'm sure back.
Speaker 3: In the day, right, I'm sure there are things that
Speaker 3: could something be done.
Speaker 1: Definitely something man out totally. Let's hope he got help
Speaker 1: in the future at some point. But then the sweet
Speaker 1: scene where the voiceover says, you know, I realized that
Speaker 1: I needed to break up with his mother and she's
Speaker 1: basically trying to say, it's not you, You're wonderful, And then
Speaker 1: the mom is trying to fight for the relationship, and
Speaker 1: then she says something crazy like seventy five percent of
Speaker 1: marriages are sexless.
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh God.
Speaker 3: Now Carrie's reaction to that, she's just like, we cannot
Speaker 3: be satisfied with those numbers. No, like to just settle
Speaker 3: for that.
Speaker 2: No, no, I mean.
Speaker 1: On the other hand, Bellary Harper saying, you know, that's
Speaker 1: not the only thing, and I think it's true, right, not.
Speaker 3: The only thing, but it is one of the things.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: But it's also interesting if you look at the way
Speaker 1: that our characters all talk about sex, because obviously that's
Speaker 1: part of the thing that we do right, which is
Speaker 1: freeing and amazing, But then it's sometimes almost seems like
Speaker 1: the focus goes too much, too much, too right, And luckily,
Speaker 1: through Charlotte's whole marriage thing, we have we have some
Speaker 1: growth in that area for her at least, right but
Speaker 1: everyone is different in terms of how important sex is
Speaker 1: to them or not or whatever.
Speaker 3: That's right, right, well, and also because the show is
Speaker 3: exploring like the starts of lots of relationships, right, that
Speaker 3: is an exciting part of the beginning of relationship, right,
Speaker 3: So there's a lot of focus on that at the
Speaker 3: beginning of relationship, and then obviously hopefully everything evolves together,
Speaker 3: right but right, No, if that thing is broken at
Speaker 3: the beginning, right, then it's like, oh, then where's this
Speaker 3: going to go?
Speaker 1: Because and especially if the person can't talk about it,
Speaker 1: like in the way they Carrie really tries.
Speaker 2: Which I was so happy that she did because.
Speaker 1: I didn't remember the storyline at all, right, so I
Speaker 1: was like, oh my god, what's going to happen? She
Speaker 1: hung in there, she really tries, and maybe it's because
Speaker 1: she loves his family, but also he's adorable and it's
Speaker 1: so cute.
Speaker 3: And what's weird is like, on some level it almost
Speaker 3: feels like he has a blind spot because this keeps
Speaker 3: like this keeps happening, right, but then he comes back
Speaker 3: in all like haughty and flirtationous and like, let's like
Speaker 3: make a moment of yes, which is going to be
Speaker 3: done in thirty seconds.
Speaker 1: It's almost like he's he's almost seems unaware, which is
Speaker 1: also interesting.
Speaker 2: But I mean.
Speaker 3: You can tell him debating.
Speaker 2: What I should say now.
Speaker 1: I have had one relationship where this was kind of
Speaker 1: a problem, not to the extent because this is very extreme.
Speaker 3: The spa in the show, right, but I can have.
Speaker 1: One relationship, and you know, sometimes I think like, hmm,
Speaker 1: you know, should I say something yeah?
Speaker 3: Or should I not? Should I? Am I okay?
Speaker 2: You know, you're just like, yeah, what am I okay
Speaker 2: with it? Am I not okay with it?
Speaker 3: And I think I think not to make like gross generalizations,
Speaker 3: but I think as women, we are kind of we
Speaker 3: want to facilitate people feeling good about themselves. And sometimes
Speaker 3: we're like, maybe the fix comes in just like making
Speaker 3: things nice, right and confidence, instead of going right to
Speaker 3: the problem, which might make them feel insecure. And that's true,
Speaker 3: and that's what's so awkward.
Speaker 1: And I thought that the way that Carrie did it
Speaker 1: in the show was so loving and sweet.
Speaker 2: And that's why when he's just like what you know,
Speaker 2: and then she's like we have to talk because it's extreme.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's pretty extreme. Yeah, my situation was not that extreme.
Speaker 1: But I also felt like the person that I was
Speaker 1: involved with had some understanding about it, because there were
Speaker 1: things that he would do to to like focus on me,
Speaker 1: so to speak.
Speaker 2: But I was like, that's too much focus on me?
Speaker 2: Yeah right, yes, like yeah.
Speaker 1: But then in reality I thought it through and I thought, oh,
Speaker 1: that is kind of a mechanism to take the focus
Speaker 1: off this kind of thing.
Speaker 2: It wasn't as bad.
Speaker 1: It definitely wasn't as bad, but at a certain point
Speaker 1: I was like, this is just weird.
Speaker 2: I don't I don't feel like I can talk about it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I mean if you think about the show
Speaker 1: that the show is trying to take like the lid
Speaker 1: off of all of the different things and say you
Speaker 1: can talk about it.
Speaker 3: You can talk about it, right, And that's the only
Speaker 3: way to try to solve anything.
Speaker 2: Absolutely.
Speaker 1: I try to tell my seven year old this, you know,
Speaker 1: like we got to talk about the feelings, you know,
Speaker 1: we got to talk about the feelings. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: hopefully I can get him to it's not easy.
Speaker 3: Let's talk about what you're working on. Tell me everything.
Speaker 3: So they said, I'm a big fan.
Speaker 1: Oh you're sweet, thank you, Even knowing that you had
Speaker 1: been on our show.
Speaker 2: I've just been a watching fan.
Speaker 1: I don't even think I knew that you were married
Speaker 1: to Alan, didn't even know that connection.
Speaker 2: I was just like amazing and so unique.
Speaker 3: Thank you.
Speaker 1: Yes, And I love everything you've done because I think
Speaker 1: you get to play this like we touched on a bit.
Speaker 1: You get to play kind of more masculine characters, but
Speaker 1: you're yet this tiny.
Speaker 2: Little you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a funny journey, but I mean one that
Speaker 3: I've been grateful for because you do hear about women's
Speaker 3: roles being marginalized or whatever, but when you're given these
Speaker 3: roles of women who have kind of an internal power,
Speaker 3: then you get to live that out.
Speaker 2: Absolutely. Those are stories point.
Speaker 3: So anyway, most recently, I don't know if you know
Speaker 3: the show for All Mankind. I'll admit that I wasn't
Speaker 3: familiar with it at all. It's this great sci fi
Speaker 3: show on Apple TV, and the structure is very interesting.
Speaker 3: Each season jumps a decade, so it starts in nineteen
Speaker 3: sixty nine. It's a revisionist history of what if Russia
Speaker 3: got to the moon first?
Speaker 1: Oh wow?
Speaker 3: Which launched this incredible space race. Okay, then your main
Speaker 3: characters from season one, you get to watch them age
Speaker 3: throughout the course of their lives.
Speaker 2: Cool, it's very cool.
Speaker 3: So season and so every season they have to bring
Speaker 3: in new characters because it's a full decade later and
Speaker 3: what's happening. Now we're on the Moon and now we're
Speaker 3: on Mars and hour you know. So I got to
Speaker 3: join in season five as one of the new main
Speaker 3: characters of season five. And I mean there's so much
Speaker 3: storyline and everything. But it's coming out this fall. Oh wow, yeah,
Speaker 3: So I haven't seen it yet, but I'm excited to
Speaker 3: see it. Yeah, yeah, comeing out. It's amazing.
Speaker 2: And tell us about.
Speaker 3: John Hamm and John ham We love Jonne, Yeah, we
Speaker 3: love Jhon ham. So and then I've just signed on
Speaker 3: to do a limited series with John ham called American
Speaker 3: Hostage that's coming out on MGM Plus. And it's very
Speaker 3: interesting story based on a true story in the seventies,
Speaker 3: a man was taken hostage in kind of a public
Speaker 3: way in Illinois and asked the the kidnapper asked to
Speaker 3: be interviewed live by kind of this famous Illinois radio journalist,
Speaker 3: and that man agreed to do it. And and just
Speaker 3: like the role of journalism and the role of us
Speaker 3: as citizens, like what our place is in just helping well,
Speaker 3: it's really like riveting strong.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I cannot wait to see that. How incredible.
Speaker 1: I have a really important question.
Speaker 2: Are you a Charlotte? I don't think so.
Speaker 3: Really, I think I'm scrappy.
Speaker 2: I grew up scrappy, Okay, I grew.
Speaker 3: Up in like Texas with like chickens in my back.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I love that.
Speaker 1: But that doesn't mean that you're not a Charlotte because
Speaker 1: you are wearing a pushy bow bunch of bowl.
Speaker 3: And I didn't put on blouse on purpose just to
Speaker 3: like that direction.
Speaker 2: It's just your every day where I think I.
Speaker 3: Think I'm a little scrappier Charlotte. I'm so put together.
Speaker 3: That's when we're whole, like, and most days I do
Speaker 3: not look like this most days I'm I mean, yea, yeah,
Speaker 3: most days I'm just a little so like would you
Speaker 3: put yourself more in a Miranda kind of so I
Speaker 3: think I'm I think I'm a little bit ambitious like
Speaker 3: I'm Miranda. I think maybe I'm just pieces.
Speaker 1: Which is fantastic all of that.
Speaker 3: I'm a little bit like scattered like Carrie. I'm a little.
Speaker 3: I don't know. I think I like it, Yeah, I
Speaker 3: like it.
Speaker 1: I mean people who talk about that we're all parts
Speaker 1: of one woman, which I find interesting.
Speaker 2: And it depends who's saying that, whether I'm annoyed by
Speaker 2: that or not.
Speaker 1: But all women can be everything, right, of course, right,
Speaker 1: and you can be also these other things. And it
Speaker 1: doesn't mean that you're just parts of what you don't
Speaker 1: say