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Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Kristin Davis, and I want to know are

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Speaker 1: you a Charlotte?

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Speaker 2: Welcome back everybody to Are You a Charlotte? Part two?

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Speaker 3: Thanks for joining us.

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Speaker 2: Here we go. All right, let's go back, let's go

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Speaker 2: back to this episode.

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Speaker 3: But it is fun.

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Speaker 1: One of the things which is so obvious obviously, but

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Speaker 1: I'm just going to name it, one of the things

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Speaker 1: that is joyful about me watching this is that because

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Speaker 1: we all know things that happen. Yes, you can go back,

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Speaker 1: but we all have this vocabulary which is kind of amazing, amazing,

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Speaker 1: and you know, due to our writers. Yeah, writers are

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Speaker 1: so important.

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Speaker 3: Ye oh my goodness, writers or everything. If it's not

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Speaker 3: they are on the page, there's nothing you can do,

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Speaker 3: I know.

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Speaker 1: I mean, in the beginning of the show, Charlotte wasn't

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Speaker 1: really on the page, and I really stressed, you know, quietly,

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Speaker 2: Sure, right, I would just be like, oh, and you're

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Speaker 2: trying to bring so much.

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Speaker 1: You're trying to bring subtext to like nothing that's really there.

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Speaker 2: And then luckily as it.

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Speaker 1: Went because also we were based on a column and

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Speaker 1: a paper that was about gossip in New York, right,

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Speaker 1: so like all of them had to be kind of

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Speaker 1: fleshed out and deepened out. And obviously Carrie changed in

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Speaker 2: You know, they deviated pretty significantly.

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Speaker 1: But I think for Charlotte, you know, until we kind

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Speaker 1: that life. And Michael Patrick took some time, Like he

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Speaker 1: said to me when he came on the show, which

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Speaker 1: was first season Darren Bard him on to write. He said,

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Speaker 1: I looked at your character and I was like, I

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Speaker 1: of course he was it came to him and he

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Speaker 1: thank god, She's like, thank god it came to it.

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Speaker 1: But it is interesting to look back sometimes. I also

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Speaker 1: think for myself and you were younger than me. But

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Speaker 1: the vibe still in the nineties in New York was

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Speaker 1: that not necessarily like the Charlotte versionsion of like married

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Speaker 1: It wasn't necessarily clear yet that this kind of growing

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Speaker 2: Be like a power move or whatever.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how to put it, but you know,

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Speaker 1: like at a certain point in the two thousands, there

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Speaker 1: would be like at one point they put the four

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Speaker 1: of us on the cover of Time magazine and they wrote,

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Speaker 1: who needs a husband?

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Speaker 3: Wow?

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Speaker 2: I have it hanging in my class.

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Speaker 3: It makes me Laugh's amazing, I know.

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Speaker 1: I remember Ali mcbeales like there were a lot of

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Speaker 3: Around that because the assumption before those conversations started was

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Speaker 3: that is the goal, even if you also work or whatever,

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Speaker 3: like at some point you're going to lay down your career, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: It's so interesting to think about.

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Speaker 1: But I see it in so many weird details when

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Speaker 2: Like Miranda, I never thought of her.

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Speaker 2: It's a long story.

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Speaker 1: She has hopes for the guy, but then they fall

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Speaker 2: It's very loaded. It's such a loaded.

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Speaker 1: And then the best part for me is that the end,

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Speaker 3: None of you pick it up. Oh that's awesome.

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Speaker 2: I know, it's so great.

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Speaker 2: Okay, back to the episode. Here we go, Oh, yes,

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Speaker 2: Roger's used, poor Roger. And then oh, here we go

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Speaker 2: with the Jason throw.

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Speaker 3: Yes, Oh my gosh.

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Speaker 2: First of all, he's just so adorable.

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Speaker 3: Cute god, oh, so funny and wonderful.

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Speaker 1: I mean, so funny, wonderful, and like just to watch

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Speaker 1: Think that what had happened with this episode was that

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Speaker 2: Oh couldn't you see Matthew in that part?

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Speaker 3: You know, it's a little weird. Yeah, it's a little weird.

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Speaker 2: I mean, they did plus a sweep together, which is amazing.

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Speaker 1: Yes, So I think we were like, hey, Justin, come

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Speaker 1: So we meet Justin. They're adorable, they're both writers. They

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Speaker 3: Taking their shirt off. Yes, yeah, too funny.

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Speaker 1: But then later on he takes a shirt off and

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Speaker 3: So then we go we meet the.

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Speaker 1: Yes, they really are and they're so kind of quintessentially

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Speaker 1: I was like, Wow, I don't remember any of this

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Speaker 2: A lot of good food in New York and.

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Speaker 1: Right, it's awesome and you can tell that Carrie loves it.

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Speaker 2: Now we're back, we're at the park. We discussed the.

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Speaker 2: Oh now we're at my house.

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Speaker 1: I love that I'm suddenly just making everybody muffin, so Charlotte.

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Speaker 2: Because the muffin will fix that brother marriage problem.

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Speaker 1: I know it's sad, but it's kind of funny. So

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Speaker 1: here I am with my brother, my poor brother who

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Speaker 2: It's so crazy to watch, but.

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Speaker 1: It's funny because I also felt like like there's like

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Speaker 3: We're actually have a real relationship.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because he's like you don't even know, you know,

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Speaker 3: And he's like, when was the last time you had

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Speaker 2: And I'm like, go, yeah, good call, good call.

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Speaker 1: So they Carrie brings him, brings Samantha, and of course

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Speaker 1: And then she is oblivious and kind of adorable. It's

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Speaker 3: Know how great we have breakfast together. It's true, It's true.

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Speaker 1: I kind of felt that way when I walked in,

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Speaker 1: is like such an dick thing to say. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And luckily she leaves and she does look really hurt.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, very genuinely hurt.

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Speaker 2: She really does.

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Speaker 3: And your brother stands up for her and goes after,

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Speaker 3: which is nice.

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Speaker 1: Nice, that was really nice, And also then connects back

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Speaker 1: to when he tries to say to me, you know,

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Speaker 1: two years, and she made me feel great. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: that does seem to land for Charlotte. Thank god. I

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Speaker 1: And so luckily then I make muffins for Samantha, you guys, and.

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Speaker 2: Go to her door, and she luckily forgives me.

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Speaker 1: I say I'm sorry, and then she smacks me on

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so you guys go back.

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Speaker 2: We're all just started around with our plates of Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Absolutely they know it's almost too close.

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Speaker 3: Yeah? So Carrie tries to leave, and you know, value

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Speaker 1: I have had one relationship where this was kind of

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Speaker 1: off this kind of thing.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't as bad.

442
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Speaker 1: It definitely wasn't as bad, but at a certain point

443
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Speaker 1: I was like, this is just weird.

444
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Speaker 2: I don't I don't feel like I can talk about it.

445
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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I mean if you think about the show

446
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Speaker 1: that the show is trying to take like the lid

447
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Speaker 1: off of all of the different things and say you

448
00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:21,919
Speaker 1: can talk about it.

449
00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:23,840
Speaker 3: You can talk about it, right, And that's the only

450
00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:26,360
Speaker 3: way to try to solve anything.

451
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Speaker 2: Absolutely.

452
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Speaker 1: I try to tell my seven year old this, you know,

453
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Speaker 1: like we got to talk about the feelings, you know,

454
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Speaker 1: we got to talk about the feelings. Yeah, I mean,

455
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Speaker 1: hopefully I can get him to it's not easy.

456
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Speaker 3: Let's talk about what you're working on. Tell me everything.

457
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Speaker 3: So they said, I'm a big fan.

458
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Speaker 1: Oh you're sweet, thank you, Even knowing that you had

459
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Speaker 1: been on our show.

460
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Speaker 2: I've just been a watching fan.

461
00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:57,800
Speaker 1: I don't even think I knew that you were married

462
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Speaker 1: to Alan, didn't even know that connection.

463
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Speaker 2: I was just like amazing and so unique.

464
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Speaker 3: Thank you.

465
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Speaker 1: Yes, And I love everything you've done because I think

466
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Speaker 1: you get to play this like we touched on a bit.

467
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Speaker 1: You get to play kind of more masculine characters, but

468
00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:11,280
Speaker 1: you're yet this tiny.

469
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Speaker 2: Little you know.

470
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a funny journey, but I mean one that

471
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Speaker 3: I've been grateful for because you do hear about women's

472
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Speaker 3: roles being marginalized or whatever, but when you're given these

473
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Speaker 3: roles of women who have kind of an internal power,

474
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Speaker 3: then you get to live that out.

475
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Speaker 2: Absolutely. Those are stories point.

476
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Speaker 3: So anyway, most recently, I don't know if you know

477
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Speaker 3: the show for All Mankind. I'll admit that I wasn't

478
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Speaker 3: familiar with it at all. It's this great sci fi

479
00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:47,440
Speaker 3: show on Apple TV, and the structure is very interesting.

480
00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:52,439
Speaker 3: Each season jumps a decade, so it starts in nineteen

481
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Speaker 3: sixty nine. It's a revisionist history of what if Russia

482
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Speaker 3: got to the moon first?

483
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Speaker 1: Oh wow?

484
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Speaker 3: Which launched this incredible space race. Okay, then your main

485
00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:03,720
Speaker 3: characters from season one, you get to watch them age

486
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Speaker 3: throughout the course of their lives.

487
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Speaker 2: Cool, it's very cool.

488
00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:10,040
Speaker 3: So season and so every season they have to bring

489
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Speaker 3: in new characters because it's a full decade later and

490
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Speaker 3: what's happening. Now we're on the Moon and now we're

491
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Speaker 3: on Mars and hour you know. So I got to

492
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Speaker 3: join in season five as one of the new main

493
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Speaker 3: characters of season five. And I mean there's so much

494
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Speaker 3: storyline and everything. But it's coming out this fall. Oh wow, yeah,

495
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Speaker 3: So I haven't seen it yet, but I'm excited to

496
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Speaker 3: see it. Yeah, yeah, comeing out. It's amazing.

497
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Speaker 2: And tell us about.

498
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Speaker 3: John Hamm and John ham We love Jonne, Yeah, we

499
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Speaker 3: love Jhon ham. So and then I've just signed on

500
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Speaker 3: to do a limited series with John ham called American

501
00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:48,560
Speaker 3: Hostage that's coming out on MGM Plus. And it's very

502
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Speaker 3: interesting story based on a true story in the seventies,

503
00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:55,200
Speaker 3: a man was taken hostage in kind of a public

504
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Speaker 3: way in Illinois and asked the the kidnapper asked to

505
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Speaker 3: be interviewed live by kind of this famous Illinois radio journalist,

506
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Speaker 3: and that man agreed to do it. And and just

507
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Speaker 3: like the role of journalism and the role of us

508
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Speaker 3: as citizens, like what our place is in just helping well,

509
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Speaker 3: it's really like riveting strong.

510
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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I cannot wait to see that. How incredible.

511
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Speaker 1: I have a really important question.

512
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Speaker 2: Are you a Charlotte? I don't think so.

513
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Speaker 3: Really, I think I'm scrappy.

514
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Speaker 2: I grew up scrappy, Okay, I grew.

515
00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:39,960
Speaker 3: Up in like Texas with like chickens in my back.

516
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Speaker 2: Oh my god, I love that.

517
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Speaker 1: But that doesn't mean that you're not a Charlotte because

518
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Speaker 1: you are wearing a pushy bow bunch of bowl.

519
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Speaker 3: And I didn't put on blouse on purpose just to

520
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Speaker 3: like that direction.

521
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Speaker 2: It's just your every day where I think I.

522
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Speaker 3: Think I'm a little scrappier Charlotte. I'm so put together.

523
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Speaker 3: That's when we're whole, like, and most days I do

524
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Speaker 3: not look like this most days I'm I mean, yea, yeah,

525
00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:12,520
Speaker 3: most days I'm just a little so like would you

526
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Speaker 3: put yourself more in a Miranda kind of so I

527
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Speaker 3: think I'm I think I'm a little bit ambitious like

528
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Speaker 3: I'm Miranda. I think maybe I'm just pieces.

529
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Speaker 1: Which is fantastic all of that.

530
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Speaker 3: I'm a little bit like scattered like Carrie. I'm a little.

531
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Speaker 3: I don't know. I think I like it, Yeah, I

532
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Speaker 3: like it.

533
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Speaker 1: I mean people who talk about that we're all parts

534
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Speaker 1: of one woman, which I find interesting.

535
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Speaker 2: And it depends who's saying that, whether I'm annoyed by

536
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Speaker 2: that or not.

537
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Speaker 1: But all women can be everything, right, of course, right,

538
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Speaker 1: and you can be also these other things. And it

539
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Speaker 1: doesn't mean that you're just parts of what you don't

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Speaker 1: say