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Speaker 1: twenty twenty two, Season eighteen, episode number six. Welcome to

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Speaker 1: everybody doing today, I'm wonderful, Derek. It's football Christmas, best

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Speaker 1: three days of the year. Yeah. No, Like I mean

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Speaker 1: not for us. People are always like like really like

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Speaker 1: I enjoy the draft more than like any game, more

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Speaker 1: than trading games. Absolutely, yeah, games are stressful. Draft is

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Speaker 1: fun just yeah, yeah, studying all hundreds of face but

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Speaker 1: just because the game, like what does it mean? It

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Speaker 1: means you lost, or it means you won. Drafting Laton

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Speaker 1: Vanderesh in the first round doesn't mean anything for the

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Speaker 1: fun to say all right, all this work and just

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Speaker 1: funny how people are gonna be like pissed off, like

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Speaker 1: But but see, I think that's probably why I think

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Speaker 1: it's so much fun, is it's just it's just a

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Speaker 1: big information gathering session and that's the most rewarding part

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Speaker 1: about it for me really. I mean, it's fun talking

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Speaker 1: Like you're just like I got a baseline of information

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Speaker 1: of fun to just be like, that's that guy, that's

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Speaker 1: In Jacksonville. You kind of got an idea about him

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Speaker 1: Every time there's a flea flicker, like every time, like

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Speaker 1: he loves just nice little ribs shot to somebody whoever

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Speaker 1: wrote that. There's a lot going on. That's why it's

428
00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:51,400
Speaker 1: a long read. Yeah, I'm not gonna say all that's

429
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Speaker 1: going on. I'm just gonna say, if you're gonna be

430
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Speaker 1: in the area, go check out the draft party. It's

431
00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:56,960
Speaker 1: gonna be happening out here at the start of Mar.

432
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Speaker 1: It's gonna be a really cool event. Should be a

433
00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:01,679
Speaker 1: lot of fun. You might even see some some local celebrities.

434
00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:03,280
Speaker 1: I mean, just like you know people that work on

435
00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:07,000
Speaker 1: our staff. There's about twenty players too that they're gonna

436
00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:10,520
Speaker 1: sign some autographs. So and after COVID like his first time,

437
00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:12,640
Speaker 1: you're gonna have that kind of real opportunity and get

438
00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:15,119
Speaker 1: up and close and personal with players. So get a

439
00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:16,679
Speaker 1: chance go check it out. Whether it should be good,

440
00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:19,520
Speaker 1: it's gonna be out on it should be nice. All right,

441
00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:22,240
Speaker 1: let's get back to it. Let's get some status updates.

442
00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:26,080
Speaker 1: They talked about about both Michael Gallup and Kelvin Joseph.

443
00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:28,879
Speaker 1: Let's start with with Michael. Where's Michael right now in

444
00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:33,040
Speaker 1: his rehab still rehabbing, Like, I mean he's not ready

445
00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:35,560
Speaker 1: to play football and he's not supposed to be. Yeah, Um,

446
00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:40,520
Speaker 1: they're Mike. Mike McCarthy's specific words were like, when we

447
00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:42,919
Speaker 1: get to training camp, will have a clearer idea. I mean,

448
00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:46,800
Speaker 1: he's not gonna This is conjecture for me, but just

449
00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:49,840
Speaker 1: reading context clues. And I walked past Michael in the

450
00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:51,560
Speaker 1: training table the other day, I was like, you're not

451
00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:53,720
Speaker 1: gonna be like part of OTAs or anything. That's not

452
00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:57,600
Speaker 1: gonna happen. Um, But like the rehabs going well, and

453
00:21:58,000 --> 00:21:59,960
Speaker 1: they've been saying this whole time, like maybe he'll be

454
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Speaker 1: ready at some point in training camp, maybe to extend

455
00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:03,840
Speaker 1: into the season. I don't I don't know if they

456
00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:06,480
Speaker 1: actually know right now. Yeah, so I don't think they're

457
00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:09,200
Speaker 1: expecting him, but expect him for the beginning of the season.

458
00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:13,480
Speaker 1: He's he's he's on pace with what they projected for

459
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Speaker 1: him for the time being. Yep, I would imagine. I

460
00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:20,200
Speaker 1: still don't think he'll be ready for the start of

461
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Speaker 1: the season, and I think he'll end up on pup actually,

462
00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:26,080
Speaker 1: which is he'll be out six weeks. He could be

463
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Speaker 1: out six weeks. I mean that's what I think. That's

464
00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:32,960
Speaker 1: the worst case scenario. Yeah, and so, but you know,

465
00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:36,480
Speaker 1: I think we'll get a better idea, too, of of

466
00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:40,760
Speaker 1: what that situation looks like based off of the draft. Yeah,

467
00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:43,919
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know. You guys might disagree. I mean,

468
00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:47,119
Speaker 1: just just taking a receiver in the first round doesn't

469
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Speaker 1: necessarily mean that they don't feel comfortable with with with

470
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Speaker 1: what Gallops rehab is, because I mean this is a

471
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Speaker 1: five year commitment. Yeah. Oh no, I don't think that

472
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Speaker 1: has anything to do with it. They need a receiver

473
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Speaker 1: because look like, look a look at the makeup of

474
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Speaker 1: their core and like in the short and long term, like, yes,

475
00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:06,920
Speaker 1: Michael might miss some games, but also Noah Brown's on

476
00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:09,240
Speaker 1: a one year deal. James Washington's on a one year deal.

477
00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:13,960
Speaker 1: Somehow CD is already inching into the back half of

478
00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:17,359
Speaker 1: his deal, so they just you just gotta keep replenishing

479
00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:21,639
Speaker 1: that thing. Yeah, and I think that, you know, I

480
00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:24,159
Speaker 1: think a second or third round receiver could still come

481
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Speaker 1: in and help this team it better because you're asking

482
00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:30,600
Speaker 1: right now, you're asking Noah Brown, Semi Fihoko, and James

483
00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:33,040
Speaker 1: Washington to help this team. So a second or third

484
00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:35,880
Speaker 1: round receiver should help. And I think that they can.

485
00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:38,160
Speaker 1: I don't know if a second or third round guard

486
00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:40,760
Speaker 1: immediately comes in as better. I don't know that. Yeah,

487
00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:43,640
Speaker 1: I mean, you look at it. This league is littered

488
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Speaker 1: with second and third round wide receivers who are extremely

489
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Speaker 1: productive so fast. Yeah, yeah, they're opportunities. You can find guys.

490
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Speaker 1: You can find guys a wide receiver in the second

491
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Speaker 1: and third rounds that can contribute to your team. I like,

492
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Speaker 1: I think about twenty eighteen was so perfect for them,

493
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Speaker 1: Like they found Mike get eighty one. I'm dubious that.

494
00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:06,720
Speaker 1: I'm dubious that a receiver as good as Michael Gallup was.

495
00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:08,480
Speaker 1: I'm not talking about who he is now, but even

496
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Speaker 1: what he was like Michael was. They didn't have a

497
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Speaker 1: lot of receivers in twenty eighteen either, but he was

498
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Speaker 1: a rookie starter as a third round pick, which even

499
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Speaker 1: when they're even when it's a thin receiver corps, that's

500
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,840
Speaker 1: still pretty impressive. I don't know if there's a guy.

501
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Speaker 1: I don't know if there's a guy that good at

502
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Speaker 1: eighty eighth this year, Like, but you think they they

503
00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:27,600
Speaker 1: because you got you gotta also factor in the situation

504
00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:30,320
Speaker 1: they're coming into. They're not being asked to be the

505
00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:33,520
Speaker 1: top guy. Yeah, they're asking to be a complimentary guy.

506
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Speaker 1: That's a good point. I mean, if if you don't,

507
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Speaker 1: if you don't need him to be the dude from

508
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Speaker 1: the get and you do have CD and you'll have

509
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Speaker 1: Michael at a certain point, but I don't I start

510
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Speaker 1: to get nervous about the depth of the receiver class

511
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Speaker 1: after the second round. Me personally, here's here's my prediction

512
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Speaker 1: on Friday Night. I don't think they take a receiver

513
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Speaker 1: in the first round. I think they take a receiver

514
00:24:57,760 --> 00:24:59,760
Speaker 1: in the second or third round. And I think he

515
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:03,359
Speaker 1: is a slot guy and definitely a punt returner. And

516
00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:06,159
Speaker 1: my prediction is Steven Jones is gonna tell us or

517
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:08,280
Speaker 1: Will McClay who's up up there. We feel like this

518
00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:10,560
Speaker 1: guy could come right in and return punts, which is

519
00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:13,720
Speaker 1: something CDE won't do. I would imagine which Cedric Wills.

520
00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:16,600
Speaker 1: You don't have a punt returner really on the roster.

521
00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:19,359
Speaker 1: So I think that the cell is what can they do?

522
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:22,240
Speaker 1: We think he can come right in be a slot

523
00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:25,000
Speaker 1: guy for us, helping our punt return We're just so

524
00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:27,520
Speaker 1: excited to have him. That's my prediction. They're going to

525
00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:30,439
Speaker 1: get that receiver in the second or third round Friday Night.

526
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Speaker 1: Don't know his name. Wandelle Robinson, Kentucky. Wandell Robinson, Kentucky,

527
00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:40,280
Speaker 1: UM something somebody like that. Five nine. I think the

528
00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:43,040
Speaker 1: names I have in my brain are later. But yeah,

529
00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:44,800
Speaker 1: I mean, I think you're absolutely right about that, just

530
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Speaker 1: in terms of like the type of role can they

531
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Speaker 1: Can they really afford to get a guy that's more

532
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Speaker 1: just kind of a slot guy, because they may need

533
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Speaker 1: more of him if if let's say, for example, yeah,

534
00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:58,320
Speaker 1: you know gallops out for that six weeks, Let's let's

535
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Speaker 1: assume that that happens, like gonna need more from that

536
00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:03,280
Speaker 1: guy than just I can play the slot, right, I

537
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:07,760
Speaker 1: do yeah, go ahead. I mean sure, I mean you're

538
00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:10,240
Speaker 1: gonna need more than that, but I'm just saying the

539
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:13,879
Speaker 1: quick twitch guy like that, I could see them getting.

540
00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:15,879
Speaker 1: And I would imagine at some point on the Scott

541
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:18,880
Speaker 1: and Report someone said Tyreek Kills a slot guy. I think,

542
00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:20,720
Speaker 1: you know, because he's shorter and he found out he's

543
00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:22,719
Speaker 1: much right. So if you can run like the win,

544
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:24,439
Speaker 1: I mean I think that they'll they'll have you in there.

545
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:26,840
Speaker 1: But that's the type of guy I could I could

546
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:30,760
Speaker 1: see them getting in the second or third round. Johan Dotson,

547
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:34,640
Speaker 1: He's he's a first round fringe. That's I mean. That's

548
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:37,760
Speaker 1: the fun thing about this is like there's about twelve

549
00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:40,200
Speaker 1: names that I'm positive will go in the first round,

550
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:42,399
Speaker 1: and then everything after that. You're like, oh, maybe that

551
00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:44,920
Speaker 1: is amazing. Maybe it depends on how much gonna be

552
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:48,080
Speaker 1: a crazy draft. Yeah, I will say. I'll just say

553
00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:51,480
Speaker 1: this and Nick hasn't told me anything. It's funny because

554
00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:54,760
Speaker 1: like we cover the draft all year, but Nick knows

555
00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:56,959
Speaker 1: just too to ask, and like Nick will pop up

556
00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,080
Speaker 1: like a week before the draft and be like, you know,

557
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:01,280
Speaker 1: maybe they'll do this, and I'm like, who told you that?

558
00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:05,359
Speaker 1: Robinson's name at all. Okay, you know why I know

559
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:07,879
Speaker 1: one Delle Robinson's name is I'm really good friends with

560
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:10,800
Speaker 1: a former cowboy named James Whalen who played at Kentucky,

561
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:14,159
Speaker 1: and James had his record of most catches at Kentucky

562
00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:17,360
Speaker 1: broken by one Delle Robinson, who and you know I've

563
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:20,800
Speaker 1: seen him in the SEC catches everything. Um, he's just

564
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 1: played one of those eight year seniors you know when

565
00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:27,760
Speaker 1: when Nick because Nick, like Nick is preoccupied and not

566
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:29,840
Speaker 1: really focusing on the draft most of the year. So

567
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,720
Speaker 1: like when Nick drops drops a draft tidbit, I'm like, okay,

568
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:35,479
Speaker 1: I'm listening. Because you didn't pull this out of thin air.

569
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:37,840
Speaker 1: You know, we could probably see it now. It was

570
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:40,840
Speaker 1: a long time at a scout in our scouting department

571
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:44,240
Speaker 1: used to give you an envelope, right, It happened a

572
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:46,080
Speaker 1: couple of times. It's one I mean, if we if

573
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:48,520
Speaker 1: you have time for the story, yeah, I think this

574
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:51,560
Speaker 1: is this is a crazy story because of all the

575
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:54,560
Speaker 1: things that happened. But but yeah, a guy came up,

576
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:57,280
Speaker 1: he's head of scouting or one of the top you

577
00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:00,560
Speaker 1: know longer. He came up gave me an envelope. I mean,

578
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:03,280
Speaker 1: this thing was sealed, taped up, and he was just like,

579
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:06,159
Speaker 1: don't open this until the day of the draft. And

580
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:08,440
Speaker 1: he came up three, three or four times in that

581
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:10,480
Speaker 1: two weeks to make sure I hadn't opened it, and

582
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:12,840
Speaker 1: I kind of forgot about it. So it's two thousand

583
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:16,200
Speaker 1: and four. We had the twenty third pick, twenty second pick,

584
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:19,359
Speaker 1: something like them, and then they trade. So we're getting

585
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:21,000
Speaker 1: them ready to pick two thusand four. We're gonna get

586
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:24,720
Speaker 1: a running back, gonna get Stephen Jackson, gonna get Kevin Jones,

587
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:26,920
Speaker 1: gonna get one of these backs. They trade out of it,

588
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:28,920
Speaker 1: and I mean, that just sucks when you're like, you

589
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:31,360
Speaker 1: don't pick today because they traded for next year's one.

590
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:36,160
Speaker 1: So now we don't have a pick. I didn't even

591
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:39,680
Speaker 1: I forgot all about the envelope the next day. This

592
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:42,000
Speaker 1: is a Parcels draft. They're sitting there with like the

593
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 1: forty third pick and they're about to take some of

594
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:48,280
Speaker 1: these other guys. But Tatum Bell said that the Cowboys

595
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:50,520
Speaker 1: said they would draft Tatum Bell. They told him that

596
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:54,360
Speaker 1: Parcels says we're taking there. Yeah, they don't take him.

597
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:58,400
Speaker 1: They take Julius Jones and Stead they take Julius Jones.

598
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:00,800
Speaker 1: Oh cool. Later that night I opened it up and

599
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:03,080
Speaker 1: sleep that little piece of paper it said Julius Jones.

600
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:06,440
Speaker 1: That was written two weeks before. And Julius, they know

601
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:09,160
Speaker 1: what they're doing, what they were the Julius was never

602
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 1: going to be a first pick. They were gonna take

603
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 1: Stephen Jackson. They were afraid of his knee, which is

604
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 1: you know, but that tells you whether they really were

605
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:18,520
Speaker 1: planning on Stephen Jackson or not. Yeah, it was. It

606
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:21,680
Speaker 1: was the most amazing thing because there's so many things

607
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:24,239
Speaker 1: that had to fall just right, and it did. I mean,

608
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 1: it might have been lucky. He did it again too,

609
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:29,160
Speaker 1: same guy picked him the third round tackle James Martin,

610
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 1: which is one of the biggest busts in the history

611
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 1: of the Cowboys. So so not too proud of that one.

612
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 1: But but but they also but they pigged it. They

613
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:38,360
Speaker 1: had it. I think the craziest thing about the draft process.

614
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 1: And I remember being a draft fan as a young

615
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 1: kid and like, and you get worked up about the

616
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:46,680
Speaker 1: guy I wanted. Uh, the year the Saints drafted Reggie Bush,

617
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 1: I wanted a J Hawk, Like I was obsessed with

618
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 1: a J Hawk. And but as a fan, you have

619
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:56,360
Speaker 1: this list of like nine thousand names the team's got,

620
00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:00,440
Speaker 1: you know, if there's if there's six hundred draft eligible players,

621
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 1: they've got one hundred and twenty draftable grades. And then

622
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 1: literally it might be as small as like two dozen

623
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:10,480
Speaker 1: names where they're like, these are the guys we're gonna yeah,

624
00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:12,600
Speaker 1: and like sometimes you have to pivot from that, Like

625
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:14,880
Speaker 1: they were not going to draft Michael last year. I

626
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 1: don't care what they say they but they had to pivot.

627
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:21,240
Speaker 1: But going into going into a draft night, the list

628
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:24,600
Speaker 1: of guys that they're actually considering, it's so much smaller

629
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 1: than I think most fans realize. Yeah, I was told that.

630
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:29,200
Speaker 1: You know, they do like these mock drafts with all

631
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:33,160
Speaker 1: these scenarios that the scouts, they do like twenty of them, yep,

632
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:38,800
Speaker 1: Like and three years ago they did twenty and Tony

633
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:41,720
Speaker 1: Pollard was picked in the third or fourth round every

634
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:45,040
Speaker 1: single time, Like every time Tony Pollard was there, so

635
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:48,480
Speaker 1: they were like, we're taking Tony poll We're gonna take him,

636
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:50,479
Speaker 1: and the same happen because they know they won him.

637
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:52,720
Speaker 1: You know, anybody's done every anybody has ever done a

638
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:55,080
Speaker 1: fantasy draft. You kind of know, you get your guys

639
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:58,160
Speaker 1: that you just kind of want, and so you end

640
00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 1: up with them, and you could probably run the scenario

641
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 1: hundreds of times and you're gonna get those guys you

642
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 1: really want in most instance, because you probably draft him

643
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 1: ahead of maybe a little bit ahead of where you should,

644
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 1: because you know you want. I just bought the Yahoo rankings.

645
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 1: Take whatever they give you. But that's a great like,

646
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 1: that's a fantastic way to think of it, though, because

647
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,479
Speaker 1: like I draft night rolls around. We've all got our

648
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 1: trackers pulled up, and it's like, Okay, these are the

649
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:25,480
Speaker 1: ten best guys left according to Yahoo, or this is

650
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:28,160
Speaker 1: the top of Dane Brugler's top three hundred. These are

651
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:31,320
Speaker 1: the guys that are left. Meanwhile, the cowboys are obsessed

652
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 1: with Nashan Wright, who's down here, and they're like, yeah,

653
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 1: like we were gonna we were taking him somewhere on Friday,

654
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 1: no matter what, and like there's nothing. Nobody's opinion matters,

655
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 1: nobody's research matter. Like this guy, Yeah, that's all that matters.

656
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:45,520
Speaker 1: Like this guy, all right, tell me about Kelvin Joseph.

657
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 1: What do we know at this point? What are they

658
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:51,720
Speaker 1: talking about Kevin Joseph? What's that look? Well, Jerry said,

659
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:55,120
Speaker 1: I only if I find out my information from what

660
00:31:55,320 --> 00:32:01,360
Speaker 1: you guys, right, that's another that's good that goes in

661
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:05,239
Speaker 1: the group of five. I don't I don't know if

662
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 1: I believe that, but um, but I mean, I think

663
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 1: what he's saying is there's just there's no news on

664
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 1: it right now. And and also you know, the league

665
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:16,200
Speaker 1: will the league and the authorities will you know, they're

666
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:18,560
Speaker 1: still investigating this. And it's not like, let's let's also

667
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:20,600
Speaker 1: be honest. It's not like I would assume I'm gonna

668
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 1: make an assumption. I don't think the police department is

669
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 1: calling Jerry and saying, hey, we got some information on

670
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 1: your guy. Here's kind of what we're thinking, like, is

671
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:29,880
Speaker 1: he's not the person that they're gonna call it give

672
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:32,120
Speaker 1: this information anyway, So he's having to learn a lot

673
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 1: of this stuff. They probably have people who can make

674
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 1: connections and try to find out things, but at the

675
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:38,600
Speaker 1: end of the day, you know, they only get the

676
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:40,200
Speaker 1: police are only going to talk about what they want

677
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 1: to talk about to who they want to talk about it. Yeah,

678
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:46,240
Speaker 1: typically it's it's just it's so weird because the situation

679
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:49,480
Speaker 1: is pretty normal by NFL standards of just like you're

680
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker 1: kind of in limbo and you don't know what's gonna happen.

681
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 1: It's just it is such a more serious offense, you know.

682
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 1: Usually it's like, oh, like you know, ze Zeke was

683
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 1: seen in a cell phone video doing something inappropriate on St.

684
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:04,960
Speaker 1: Patrick's Day, Like that is it's bad. It's a bad look,

685
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 1: but it's a lot less serious than somebody dying, which

686
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:12,760
Speaker 1: so it's just it's weird. It's it's very weird. I

687
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 1: don't know what's going to happen, but the fact that

688
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:18,560
Speaker 1: really nothing has happened and it's been two weeks is

689
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 1: a lot of cases of like criminal stuff, murder stuff,

690
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 1: all kinds of things, and sometimes it takes a lot longer,

691
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:35,720
Speaker 1: you know, and then when you least expected, here's the

692
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:38,000
Speaker 1: police knocking at your door, and then the rest is

693
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 1: being made. So I'm just saying that's how it's like,

694
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:43,520
Speaker 1: I don't know what's going to happen, but sometimes are

695
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:45,520
Speaker 1: you worried about that happening? No? What I'm just saying

696
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 1: like that that would be my worst nightmare that the

697
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 1: cops just show up at my house like, yeah, we

698
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:51,480
Speaker 1: got a warm for your arrest, Like, oh my gosh,

699
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:54,880
Speaker 1: you know everything about that, just you knowing. I can't

700
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 1: wait for the break because yeah, like what, I gotta

701
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:01,680
Speaker 1: be honest, I don't think it. Oh oh that's true,

702
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 1: you are I get a lot of ticket. You make

703
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 1: me look like a great lot of ticket, and I

704
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:10,759
Speaker 1: drive like a jerk. It um. But I mean they

705
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:14,839
Speaker 1: arrests were already made, like they you know, Kelvin talked

706
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 1: to the police and some arrests were made. Yeah, that's

707
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:18,880
Speaker 1: the part. But that's also the part that makes me

708
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:21,520
Speaker 1: think of all things being of all these things that

709
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:24,759
Speaker 1: are going on, I would think he probably has a

710
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:27,560
Speaker 1: little bit of solace in the fact that he talked

711
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:30,759
Speaker 1: to the police and then they made arrest and he

712
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:33,480
Speaker 1: wasn't one of those arrests, Right, That's gotta make him

713
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 1: at least feel like, Okay, maybe I'm good here. Who knows.

714
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:40,359
Speaker 1: But that that that two weeks later and he hasn't

715
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:42,839
Speaker 1: been arrested and other people have been, I would say

716
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:45,640
Speaker 1: that that's probably as good a sign as he could

717
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:48,400
Speaker 1: possibly have. Right now. Yeah, I agree with you, But

718
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:50,759
Speaker 1: I don't know. I feel out of my depth, Like

719
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 1: I didn't go to law school. I don't know any

720
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:54,360
Speaker 1: of this stuff, talking about all this because it's like

721
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 1: you guys keep saying it is there's something way tragic,

722
00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 1: you know that happened, and there's a family grieving and

723
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:02,920
Speaker 1: all that. Somebody's gonna have to be accountable, right, And

724
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:05,520
Speaker 1: you know we said the one thing when it comes

725
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:09,040
Speaker 1: to football is that we've said this a lot of times,

726
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:14,880
Speaker 1: is the kid Joseph needs to mature. He needs to

727
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:16,920
Speaker 1: grow up. He needs to realize that this is a

728
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 1: this is a business, this is his life. He's to

729
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:23,960
Speaker 1: be focused on that and that we said that six

730
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 1: months ago, and it doesn't seem like it's happened because

731
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:30,480
Speaker 1: of that that night. It doesn't seem like he's doing that.

732
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:33,719
Speaker 1: But I mean, if he's going to get a chance

733
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 1: to keep playing football, that's still going to be in

734
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:39,439
Speaker 1: the cards, then I mean, I can't imagine a bigger

735
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 1: wake up call for him then to say hey, I've

736
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:44,759
Speaker 1: got I mean, I've got to be as focused as

737
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:47,759
Speaker 1: I can be. And I hate even saying that that's

738
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 1: a silver lining. I hate saying that because it's not

739
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:52,879
Speaker 1: going to go. But I think it's fair to say

740
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:54,880
Speaker 1: it can be a wake up call because I think

741
00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:57,360
Speaker 1: all of us in our lives probably have moments, pivotal

742
00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:00,759
Speaker 1: moments where things happened and you're you look at them

743
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:02,880
Speaker 1: and you're like, wow, I really got to make some

744
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:04,920
Speaker 1: changes in my life, right, And so if it's that

745
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 1: for him, I know it's tragic, and I'm not taking

746
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:10,439
Speaker 1: away from the tragic nature of it, but if that's

747
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:13,360
Speaker 1: what it takes, you know that if this is what

748
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:16,239
Speaker 1: gets him to kind of look at life differently, then

749
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,879
Speaker 1: that's good for him. It's not good situation, but it's

750
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 1: a good thing and positive thing for him if it

751
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 1: makes him go in a different direction. His connection to

752
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 1: the situation as the Cowboys, that would scare me, that's

753
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 1: what that's what worries me. Yeah, okay, I don't where

754
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 1: you were in the car and all that stuff being

755
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:38,240
Speaker 1: there being associated that, to me, that's a that's a problem.

756
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 1: That's something that has to be fixed. And I think

757
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:46,439
Speaker 1: that's regardless of any decisions being made yet, whether that's

758
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:50,480
Speaker 1: by the league, the police, or the Cowboys. Sure be

759
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:53,759
Speaker 1: out here in the offseason voluntary programs all you want

760
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 1: and all that, but as of right now and looking

761
00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:59,360
Speaker 1: into what's ahead, I wouldn't be making my plans with

762
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:02,400
Speaker 1: him like counting on him. Basically, I wouldn't be counting

763
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 1: on a guy like him right now. So my plans

764
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 1: would be as if he wasn't part of the team

765
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:13,759
Speaker 1: until further notice and whatever else happens as a conclusion,

766
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 1: you know, And I don't know if this will happen,

767
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 1: but like, let's say that a team was wanting some cornerback,

768
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:22,920
Speaker 1: a veteran cornerback, and they're in the fourth round and

769
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 1: they say, we'll give you a fourth round pick for

770
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 1: Anthony Brown or Jordan Lewis. Wouldn't do that today, No,

771
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 1: wouldn't do it today. No. That's where I think the

772
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:34,320
Speaker 1: big difference is is that I don't know if you

773
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 1: necessarily have to go draft the corner now, but you're

774
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:41,360
Speaker 1: not gonna mess with your depth because also you just

775
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 1: don't know what the league's gonna do here. Like he

776
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 1: doesn't have to get arrested for the league to come

777
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:47,640
Speaker 1: in and say you're out for six games. Like there,

778
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:50,360
Speaker 1: that's a real possibility just because you look at what

779
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 1: the league's done historically. They don't need proof necessarily. They

780
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 1: certainly don't need anything legal wise, So yeah, that's still

781
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:00,239
Speaker 1: a problem. It'll be interesting too to see if that

782
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:03,440
Speaker 1: does happen, what kind of suspension Is it a suspension

783
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 1: of games or is it a suspension of being away

784
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:09,400
Speaker 1: from football? Because one thing we've seen is that some

785
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:13,320
Speaker 1: this is one of those situations I think where structure

786
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:16,279
Speaker 1: is what's needed. Yeah, you suspend him for six games go,

787
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:18,800
Speaker 1: you're not allowed to be in the building. Was that

788
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:21,239
Speaker 1: good or bad? Yeah? You know, because that's kind of

789
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 1: where we are here in this So it'll be interesting

790
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:26,400
Speaker 1: to see what happens. I just can't imagine him not

791
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:31,799
Speaker 1: being suspended. I think, if I'm being honest, I think

792
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:35,160
Speaker 1: you should be. I think he I mean at least suspended.

793
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 1: I mean, this is a very serious thing for him.

794
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 1: And so the one thing I would point out though,

795
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:42,240
Speaker 1: is we saw a similar situation for those that remember

796
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 1: it with Ray Lewis, where he was there when someone

797
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:48,440
Speaker 1: ended up dead and and he was he was charged

798
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 1: at one point, and I remember seeing an interview where

799
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:54,120
Speaker 1: he was talking about how he had to take a

800
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:57,400
Speaker 1: real inventory of his life after that situation and like

801
00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 1: who is he around, what does he allow himself to

802
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:04,239
Speaker 1: be associated with? And so I do think there is

803
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:08,319
Speaker 1: a there is a model here for Kelvin Joseph of Okay,

804
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:10,360
Speaker 1: if he really didn't have anything to do with this

805
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:12,960
Speaker 1: and Jess was in that situation because people around him

806
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 1: were doing things, then maybe there's an opportunity here for

807
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 1: him to say, I can do the same thing from

808
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 1: the standpoint of taking inventory of my life and making

809
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:23,239
Speaker 1: some positive changes. And I remember at the time there

810
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 1: were a lot of people that were saying, man, the

811
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:26,360
Speaker 1: Ravens need to cut this guy, like I get real

812
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:29,320
Speaker 1: this guy. They didn't, and he ended up having obviously

813
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 1: a really great career. But I think that's the part

814
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:35,800
Speaker 1: where I put it back on Kelvin Joseph, can he

815
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:40,400
Speaker 1: be self aware enough to understand that this situation didn't

816
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 1: he didn't have to be there and really think about

817
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:45,640
Speaker 1: in the future like where am I and who am

818
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 1: I with in order to make really good decisions so

819
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 1: you ultimately don't end up in these kind of situations. Well,

820
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 1: so you can't force anyone to like something or to

821
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 1: do something. And I'm referencing like, yes, this is a

822
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:01,240
Speaker 1: game that it's a business, a lot of money involved,

823
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:03,520
Speaker 1: but at the same time it is very much a

824
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:07,360
Speaker 1: game of passion and you have to want to do

825
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 1: it and be out there and do the kind of

826
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 1: work that it takes. So with him, and we talked

827
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:14,239
Speaker 1: about it in previous shows. I think it was the

828
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:18,359
Speaker 1: last show about the questions surrounding him prior to being

829
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:21,920
Speaker 1: drafted and everything that happened in his college career. It's

830
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:23,920
Speaker 1: one of those things that it takes you back to

831
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:28,920
Speaker 1: that like easy Easy really wanting to even play football

832
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:31,399
Speaker 1: at all. And that's not something I can answer for him.

833
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:33,800
Speaker 1: He has to answer for himself. But you as a

834
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,759
Speaker 1: organization and looking at the business side of it, you

835
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:40,759
Speaker 1: do have to now take a deeper look into that

836
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:46,000
Speaker 1: whole aspect of mental and the not passion but like

837
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:50,279
Speaker 1: the teammate thing that surrounds him and see if it's

838
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:54,279
Speaker 1: regardless of him being innocent or not, is this really

839
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:56,960
Speaker 1: going to be a good fit for our future here? Yeah?

840
00:40:57,080 --> 00:41:01,200
Speaker 1: You know, somebody told me this week ago about him,

841
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:04,440
Speaker 1: and they said, I can't I feel bad even saying this,

842
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:09,840
Speaker 1: but but when it comes to football, Kelvin Joseph actually

843
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:13,239
Speaker 1: impressed the team last year with his ability to play

844
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:16,759
Speaker 1: special teams his willingness to do it. I was told

845
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:19,839
Speaker 1: he was even graded as the best special teams player

846
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 1: on the team last year. Better than Goodwin, better than Goodwin. Wow,

847
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:27,440
Speaker 1: he flashed that's impression in in just because going in

848
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 1: my opinion, maybe the best special team players I've ever watched.

849
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 1: One's awesome. But as far as the assignment goes, and

850
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Speaker 1: just you know, you know, you know they're grade you know,

851
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 1: like in basketball, you always get this plus mind that stuff.

852
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:40,960
Speaker 1: They have all kinds of grades for stuff. But apparently

853
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:43,759
Speaker 1: he was graded as high as any other player and

854
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Speaker 1: so which is not something you expect a second round corner.

855
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:48,759
Speaker 1: He probably didn't do it a lot of LSU or

856
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:51,440
Speaker 1: Kentucky to go out there and do that. So there

857
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:55,839
Speaker 1: are some things that we don't necessarily see that they're given.

858
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 1: You know, the Cowboys some some problems there as a player,

859
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 1: but he's got a you know, he's like she said,

860
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:03,600
Speaker 1: he's got to want to get there. He's got to

861
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:05,719
Speaker 1: get there. And if if this is that fork in

862
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:08,879
Speaker 1: the road that helps, then that's you know, that's great

863
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:10,879
Speaker 1: for him as a football player. Yeah, all right, we're

864
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 1: gonna take our final break. We come back. We're gonna

865
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Speaker 1: nail these guys down on some stuff. They expect to

866
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:17,479
Speaker 1: see this over these next three days at the draft.

867
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 1: Who they expect the Cowboys to take who maybe some

868
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:22,480
Speaker 1: of their pet cats are, what their draft strategies would

869
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:24,440
Speaker 1: look like if they were the ones making the call.

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Speaker 1: It is the final segment of Break Lift Nest WBC

917
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:07,920
Speaker 1: Mortgage Studios. At the start, let's get you guys nailed down.

918
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:09,960
Speaker 1: I want some predictions on what's going to happen for

919
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:12,719
Speaker 1: this draft. Let's start first big picture. I want to

920
00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:14,400
Speaker 1: go around the table if each of you kind of

921
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 1: define what your strategy would be for the Cowboys if

922
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 1: you were making decision going into the draft. You don't

923
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 1: have to necessarily say a player, but just kind of overall,

924
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:24,320
Speaker 1: how are you looking at the draft? What are the

925
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:26,840
Speaker 1: things you really got to address, and what do you

926
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 1: think is most important for the Cowboys to come away with.

927
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:32,040
Speaker 1: Once you get to Saturday night and you're done with

928
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:34,719
Speaker 1: this whole thing, let's start first with you him. You're

929
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 1: done with this thing, done with this thing. Listen, I

930
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 1: don't over analyze this thing because I think it's very

931
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:42,760
Speaker 1: complicated the draft. Do you have so many moving pieces

932
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:44,800
Speaker 1: that you don't know what's really going to happen. But

933
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:49,759
Speaker 1: I'm looking and this is no news to anybody but

934
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:54,440
Speaker 1: old line specifically a guard. I'm looking at wide receiver,

935
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 1: of course we've talked about that, looking at linebacker, someone

936
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:00,480
Speaker 1: to help in there because we don't have any bodies

937
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:04,960
Speaker 1: there either. And other than that, after those three positions,

938
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:07,279
Speaker 1: I'm like, how about it. You can bring me a

939
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 1: pass rusher that can help create some more pressure there.

940
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 1: You can bring me a tight end if you want.

941
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:17,799
Speaker 1: You can bring me another corner maybe, so I'm bring

942
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:20,839
Speaker 1: whatever you want, but as long as you address those

943
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:25,640
Speaker 1: three main needs, I'll be happy, all right, Dave? Okay,

944
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:29,799
Speaker 1: And it's so funny because the the way we talk

945
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:33,239
Speaker 1: about this goes contrary to the way that everybody says

946
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:35,439
Speaker 1: you're supposed to draft, which is like just best player,

947
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:38,080
Speaker 1: best player. Just don't don't window dress your board, don't

948
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:40,640
Speaker 1: do anything stupid just because you need something. But they've

949
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 1: got to come out of this draft with a few

950
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:46,600
Speaker 1: things in certain areas. So I'm gonna kind of cheat

951
00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:49,400
Speaker 1: and say, a week from today, this team needs to

952
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:52,880
Speaker 1: have two offensive linemen that are capable of starting that

953
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:54,480
Speaker 1: are not here right that are not here right now.

954
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:57,840
Speaker 1: If that means you call Eric Flowers and Sam Tevy

955
00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:01,040
Speaker 1: on Monday and say we need you here, so be it.

956
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:02,920
Speaker 1: Preferably you would do it in the draft. But I

957
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:05,040
Speaker 1: think they need They need a guard and a tackle

958
00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:07,120
Speaker 1: who are capable of starting in the NFL. A week

959
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:11,000
Speaker 1: from today, they need a receiver. Um. Those are the

960
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 1: three things they need those they need those three things. Um.

961
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:17,759
Speaker 1: And then yeah, I would like to see him beef

962
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 1: up the pass rush. I would like to see him

963
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 1: ad depth at linebacker. I think it would be smart

964
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:29,000
Speaker 1: to draft a kicker. Jesus please, uh and maybe address Yeah, no,

965
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:31,680
Speaker 1: it'd be a great pick. Hey Jesus, get down here,

966
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:42,440
Speaker 1: please kick some field. But to make points, um, make

967
00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:45,400
Speaker 1: them future of the running back position. I would I

968
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 1: would like to throw a pick at that. Oh my god, goin,

969
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:53,280
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, throw throw a pick at the running back position.

970
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:58,120
Speaker 1: But really, two starter caliber offensive lineman and a receiver.

971
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:00,879
Speaker 1: I don't care how you get them, but those that's

972
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:03,520
Speaker 1: what you need. And then to Amber's point, just go

973
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:05,759
Speaker 1: for it. Throw the other throw the other picks at

974
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:08,440
Speaker 1: guys you like, let's see what happens all right this

975
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 1: one or need you're you're didn't ask me, I didn't.

976
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:14,719
Speaker 1: You're the guy. What's your strategy? What are you going

977
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:16,360
Speaker 1: into the weekend thing? And I gotta do what I

978
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:19,879
Speaker 1: need to do. I gotta trade down, um and hope

979
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:21,600
Speaker 1: that there's some lineman there. I want to trade down.

980
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 1: I want to pick up a second round pick. I

981
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:24,560
Speaker 1: want to use that next year is one and go

982
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 1: get a receiver from forty nine ers. That's why, let's go.

983
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:31,279
Speaker 1: Then I want to come out. And then then I

984
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:33,719
Speaker 1: got a I still got a first round pick who

985
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 1: was a lineman, maybe one from A and m who's

986
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:39,479
Speaker 1: who's falling a little bit because for whatever the reason,

987
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 1: I'll take him. And then I got my guy from

988
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:45,080
Speaker 1: the forty nine ers, which then I gotta pay more

989
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:47,160
Speaker 1: than I than I was gonna pay. MRI and more

990
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:50,880
Speaker 1: than you're gonna pay a CD. But you call San Francisco,

991
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:54,719
Speaker 1: not Seattle. What did I say, Seattle? No, I'm saying

992
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:57,480
Speaker 1: you could call both. Yeah, I could call both. I'm

993
00:48:57,480 --> 00:49:01,239
Speaker 1: just asked. I mean stam Tennessee's guy. Also, Yeah, sure

994
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:03,239
Speaker 1: could call Nashville. Two lots of teams you can call.

995
00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 1: I don't know they're gonna pick up the phone, but

996
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 1: you can call whoever you want to call. And I

997
00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:08,000
Speaker 1: think the cowboys are gonna pick up the phone now.

998
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:10,279
Speaker 1: I think I think, okay, you know what, I think

999
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:13,440
Speaker 1: i'd call Seattle. I just think you could maybe do

1000
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:17,600
Speaker 1: that for cheaper than I think. Maybe if we want

1001
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:20,640
Speaker 1: to just you know, bring it up for one more time.

1002
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:23,160
Speaker 1: I mean, I probably go get her old Thomas want

1003
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 1: to mention it again. I'm kidding. I'm kidding on that,

1004
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:31,120
Speaker 1: and I'm sorry, and I'm sort of kidding on all

1005
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:33,680
Speaker 1: of that. I gotta get a lineman, um, I like that.

1006
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:35,439
Speaker 1: I like, you gotta get two linemen that could play.

1007
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:37,879
Speaker 1: I need a lineman that can buy Monday. I thought

1008
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:40,080
Speaker 1: that was the key. Yeah, yeah, yeah, a lineman that

1009
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:42,439
Speaker 1: that I can I'll draft a lineman that can plug

1010
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:44,600
Speaker 1: in and play and I'm telling you, sneaky need for

1011
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:47,680
Speaker 1: me is still a linebacker. Linebacker to me, I'm because

1012
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:54,400
Speaker 1: because because your offensive lineman makes who better Dack, You're linebacker,

1013
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:57,360
Speaker 1: I think makes Mike a better agree and so especially

1014
00:49:57,400 --> 00:50:01,040
Speaker 1: if he's really good. I'm talking about that's the difference

1015
00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:03,399
Speaker 1: between getting one in the first maybe second round versus

1016
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:06,839
Speaker 1: getting one in the fifth round. Right well, I mean, yeah, yeah, right,

1017
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 1: he's got to be a guy that can come in

1018
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:10,200
Speaker 1: and play I mean I'm not and be the man

1019
00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:12,080
Speaker 1: at linebacker. I guess that's what I'm saying is he

1020
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:14,279
Speaker 1: can be the man if Michael, if you want him,

1021
00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:17,799
Speaker 1: put Michael on the defensive line. Mean yeah, Kobe, Dean,

1022
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:21,880
Speaker 1: Devin Lloyd, let's go, let's go my whole life as

1023
00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:24,279
Speaker 1: I mean, oh, go ahead. I want anything that starts

1024
00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:26,120
Speaker 1: out my whole life. I don't know, I know, right,

1025
00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:28,440
Speaker 1: I was just about to admit how painfully white I am,

1026
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:30,680
Speaker 1: which is I grew up in New Orleans. But my

1027
00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:34,120
Speaker 1: whole life. I thought that was just a football celebration.

1028
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:37,640
Speaker 1: Throwing up the hooks oh l l s U. D.

1029
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:39,200
Speaker 1: Linman used to do it, and I was like, yeah,

1030
00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:42,000
Speaker 1: that's badass, Like let's yeah, he got a sack. I

1031
00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:45,480
Speaker 1: had no idea. My favorite basketball player of all times Williams.

1032
00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:48,560
Speaker 1: I named my female dog after a choralist Williamson, and

1033
00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:51,399
Speaker 1: I thought that's that was just his thing. I didn't

1034
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:56,719
Speaker 1: know what it meant. Also found out yeah, um yeah yeah.

1035
00:50:56,920 --> 00:50:58,799
Speaker 1: And then don't do it around Derek because he will

1036
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:03,120
Speaker 1: hit you. He's done that. Yeah, I need to that. No,

1037
00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:08,040
Speaker 1: we don't. Um anyways, can I ask of what what

1038
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:11,440
Speaker 1: were the thoughts yesterday when we just completely threw a

1039
00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:15,840
Speaker 1: taco under the bus. That was hilarious. And then too No,

1040
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:18,240
Speaker 1: he had a good comeback. Yeah, he had a good comeback.

1041
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:21,680
Speaker 1: To be honest with you, Like, I thought that was funny.

1042
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:25,160
Speaker 1: It was very funny. Some people know that. Jerry mentioned

1043
00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:27,040
Speaker 1: during the press converence. He said they were asking about

1044
00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:28,960
Speaker 1: who makes the final call. He said, well, you know

1045
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:30,680
Speaker 1: I used to make the final call, but with Tacco

1046
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:33,080
Speaker 1: that was Stephen just kind of basically just threw it

1047
00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:37,000
Speaker 1: out there like and he made Tacco. Yeah, it was funny,

1048
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:40,239
Speaker 1: but also like I thought it was, I was like, really, man,

1049
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:42,839
Speaker 1: like that's your fault. You're gonna throw him under the butt.

1050
00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:45,919
Speaker 1: Like y'all left that up, that's you're bad, because half

1051
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:48,960
Speaker 1: everybody and their mother was like what wa So like

1052
00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:51,040
Speaker 1: it's not like this isn't one of those things where

1053
00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:52,560
Speaker 1: it's like what are you gonna do? Sometimes it doesn't

1054
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:55,400
Speaker 1: work out. A million people thought it was a bad idea,

1055
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:58,120
Speaker 1: and you did it anyway, and then you throw his

1056
00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:01,239
Speaker 1: like you say his name like taco sucked. It's like

1057
00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:04,200
Speaker 1: that's your bad, that's not his bad. And so I

1058
00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:07,759
Speaker 1: kind of I enjoyed his clap back. I figured realized

1059
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:10,920
Speaker 1: that parents do that a lot. I haven't done it

1060
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:13,080
Speaker 1: with my own child yet, but I see it happen

1061
00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:14,960
Speaker 1: all the time, where parents just put the blame on

1062
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:16,440
Speaker 1: their own kid. I'm like, oh, that will say it

1063
00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:20,080
Speaker 1: what way? Like just anything for example? For example, I

1064
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:22,360
Speaker 1: mean it could be anything. I'm not gonna get into specific,

1065
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:26,120
Speaker 1: but just an example. I remember Thanksgiving we would always

1066
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:29,960
Speaker 1: go to my stepdad's house and his family they're all Americans,

1067
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:32,920
Speaker 1: you know, and he would be eating all the food,

1068
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:35,959
Speaker 1: certain type of food, and at that time I didn't

1069
00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:39,200
Speaker 1: speak English that well, but I understood it, and he

1070
00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:41,200
Speaker 1: would put the blame on me when his sister would

1071
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:43,680
Speaker 1: be asking, who wait, all the blah blah blah. He'll

1072
00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:46,080
Speaker 1: be like, oh, Amber, Amber, Amber, like I said, and

1073
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:49,320
Speaker 1: I'm over here without being able to defend myself, you know,

1074
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:52,279
Speaker 1: because I didn't speak English. But anyway, the point is

1075
00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:53,879
Speaker 1: I see it a lot now that I'm a parent

1076
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:57,040
Speaker 1: that you blame your child. It were expressing if something

1077
00:52:57,080 --> 00:53:03,840
Speaker 1: smells badly, yea, DJ stop it excuse me. It was.

1078
00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:06,239
Speaker 1: It was a tongue in cheek comment. Like I it

1079
00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:08,719
Speaker 1: was just Jerry was having fun. But I was like, man,

1080
00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:11,279
Speaker 1: that's more on y'all than it is on Taco, and

1081
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:14,200
Speaker 1: Taco's come back on Twitter was just like the crying me.

1082
00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:18,399
Speaker 1: I was like, that's pretty good, fun, pretty good. Don't

1083
00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:25,680
Speaker 1: need their conversations. That's that they're already left. Dude, Just

1084
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:30,000
Speaker 1: go man, just stay. That's gonna linger, clearly, I mean

1085
00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:32,640
Speaker 1: it already is. But yeah, at least for the next year,

1086
00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:35,920
Speaker 1: two years at least, it's gonna be a still be

1087
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:38,439
Speaker 1: a topic. Yeah, all right, um, all right, So let's

1088
00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:40,600
Speaker 1: talk about the first round. Come closest in the show.

1089
00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:42,960
Speaker 1: Tell me what what you expect to happen in the

1090
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:45,839
Speaker 1: first round, what you want to happen in the first round.

1091
00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:48,560
Speaker 1: This is what I meant when I said I hate

1092
00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:52,239
Speaker 1: this week because like the narrative is formed and then

1093
00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:54,879
Speaker 1: we get to this week and and it all gets

1094
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:57,480
Speaker 1: thrown into chaos. And just as an example of what

1095
00:53:57,560 --> 00:53:59,239
Speaker 1: I mean, like if you've been following along with us

1096
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:00,800
Speaker 1: on the Draft Show, or if you've been following the

1097
00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:04,280
Speaker 1: draft like we, you know, we put the jigsaw puzzle

1098
00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:07,520
Speaker 1: together pretty well every year. We've got an idea, Kenyan Greene,

1099
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:12,480
Speaker 1: Zion Johnson. They really like some of the receivers, Traylon

1100
00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:17,319
Speaker 1: Burke's Drake London. But then Peter King, Guys like Peter

1101
00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:20,680
Speaker 1: King and Albert Brier jump just cannonball into the pool

1102
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:24,080
Speaker 1: on Monday of Draft week and they're like Tyler Linderbaum,

1103
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:27,239
Speaker 1: Nakobe Dean, which are not name. I mean, we know

1104
00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:30,320
Speaker 1: these names, but we haven't really been tying them to

1105
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:33,120
Speaker 1: the cowboys like those they didn't visit. They're not They're

1106
00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:37,279
Speaker 1: not these guys that are highlighted and people like Peter

1107
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:39,600
Speaker 1: King and Albert Brier don't throw that stuff out there

1108
00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:41,880
Speaker 1: willy nilly, like these are the type of guys that

1109
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:44,440
Speaker 1: can call up the right person and have a real conversation.

1110
00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:45,920
Speaker 1: And so I'm just looking at it and I'm like,

1111
00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:49,360
Speaker 1: where's this coming from? So now you're second guessing everything

1112
00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:55,800
Speaker 1: To answer it more succinctly, I think they have a

1113
00:54:55,960 --> 00:55:00,399
Speaker 1: preference for an offensive lineman or a receiver. I think

1114
00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:02,719
Speaker 1: they're gonna get wiped out of their receiver options, Like

1115
00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:05,319
Speaker 1: I don't yeah, really, I really, I'm starting to feel

1116
00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:06,960
Speaker 1: that way, Like I don't know if how many I mean,

1117
00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:10,640
Speaker 1: I mean, do you think legitimate will receiver options there

1118
00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:13,000
Speaker 1: are in the first round six to eight, and you

1119
00:55:13,080 --> 00:55:14,879
Speaker 1: think all of them will be gone for the Cowboys? Peak?

1120
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:17,399
Speaker 1: All the ones that they might want a draft? Yeah,

1121
00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:20,800
Speaker 1: I think there's five, no, no, five that the Cowboys

1122
00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:22,759
Speaker 1: would we have interest in the first round. They love

1123
00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:26,239
Speaker 1: Drake London, Yeah, they like Traylan Burke's uh, they love

1124
00:55:26,360 --> 00:55:29,279
Speaker 1: Chris Olave and I think all three of those guys

1125
00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:31,799
Speaker 1: could be gone dudes, Yeah, yeah, all three of them. Yeah,

1126
00:55:32,080 --> 00:55:34,680
Speaker 1: Jamison Williams will already be gone. Right when you ask

1127
00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:37,320
Speaker 1: what I want to happen, give me Jamison Williams and

1128
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:39,360
Speaker 1: call it a day. Yeah, put Tyreek Hill on this

1129
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:40,960
Speaker 1: team and we'll call it a day. I'm fine with that.

1130
00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:42,719
Speaker 1: And then it would be like, are you pretty are

1131
00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:45,600
Speaker 1: you pretty certain? He's going to be gone, Yes, I

1132
00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:49,000
Speaker 1: mean pretty certain. Do I know for sure? I was

1133
00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:51,080
Speaker 1: pretty certain Ceede Lamb would be gone too. Who the

1134
00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:52,680
Speaker 1: hell knows. But I don't think he'll be Does it

1135
00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:55,600
Speaker 1: bother you at all? A guy like Jamison Williams, I mean,

1136
00:55:55,640 --> 00:55:58,120
Speaker 1: I mean, there's only one Britt you know, others two,

1137
00:55:58,160 --> 00:56:00,440
Speaker 1: I guess. But but Britt Brown, who's like you gonna do?

1138
00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:03,600
Speaker 1: I'm saying doing the courts. I mean, you got Michael

1139
00:56:03,640 --> 00:56:06,879
Speaker 1: Gallup and you got Jamison Williams, two guys. A. It's

1140
00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:10,480
Speaker 1: a five year contract, and b Williams has he's on

1141
00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:12,680
Speaker 1: the record saying he thinks he'll be ready for training camp.

1142
00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:14,600
Speaker 1: So but that might also be the reason why he's

1143
00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:16,960
Speaker 1: available to you is because there are questions about his health.

1144
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:19,520
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, right, I would run to the podium to

1145
00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:22,279
Speaker 1: draft that man. I don't care. Sam Bradford tore his

1146
00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:25,719
Speaker 1: shoulder off in the OU Texas game, and U, what's

1147
00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:27,279
Speaker 1: the number one pick in the draft? I mean, like,

1148
00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:29,640
Speaker 1: if you're good, if you're good, you're good. I think

1149
00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:34,200
Speaker 1: that's true. Um, I think, like we've beaten this into

1150
00:56:34,239 --> 00:56:38,280
Speaker 1: the ground. But I think the realistic scenarios are Zion

1151
00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:42,960
Speaker 1: Johnson and Kenyon Green. And if for some reason they

1152
00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:45,360
Speaker 1: don't like one of the nick kind of alluded to it,

1153
00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:49,080
Speaker 1: maybe Kenyan Green might have a medical issue that scare

1154
00:56:49,160 --> 00:56:50,960
Speaker 1: some people. So that's something to keep an eye on.

1155
00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:54,360
Speaker 1: And if they don't like their options at offensive line,

1156
00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:58,920
Speaker 1: then then maybe, like the quote, like the bailout pick

1157
00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:02,759
Speaker 1: would be a linebacker Dean or Lloyd. They Lloyd was

1158
00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:06,120
Speaker 1: a visitor, so that would make sense. Dean A lot

1159
00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:08,440
Speaker 1: of people love him, but he seems small to me

1160
00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:11,640
Speaker 1: to be a cowboy pick. No, he's he's a great

1161
00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:14,319
Speaker 1: player like he Wasna you qualify that at the end

1162
00:57:14,360 --> 00:57:16,240
Speaker 1: to be a cowboy pick. Yeah, they ned into like

1163
00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:18,600
Speaker 1: big long. I mean they drafted Laton vander ash She's

1164
00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:22,120
Speaker 1: like six six, Micah's six three. So to draft a

1165
00:57:22,160 --> 00:57:24,280
Speaker 1: five to eleven linebacker in the first round seems out

1166
00:57:24,280 --> 00:57:27,840
Speaker 1: of character. But if you're if you were the captain

1167
00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:30,560
Speaker 1: of like the best defense in modern college football history,

1168
00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:32,240
Speaker 1: I'm fine with you being on my team. Yeah, and

1169
00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:35,840
Speaker 1: you were a player like a be a whole beast. Yeah.

1170
00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:40,200
Speaker 1: So yeah, that's what I think. That was long winded. Sorry, Amber,

1171
00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:44,960
Speaker 1: what are you thinking? Felt question? What happened. What do

1172
00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:49,360
Speaker 1: you think? I can never guess anything when it comes

1173
00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:52,080
Speaker 1: to the draft. But my guy right now is sighing,

1174
00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:54,520
Speaker 1: like that's the guy I would want them to draft.

1175
00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:58,760
Speaker 1: I specifically want a guard. I was checking out I

1176
00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:02,240
Speaker 1: think it was yesterday on the website, like the latest

1177
00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:04,960
Speaker 1: mock draft that you guys did on Dallas Cowboys dot com.

1178
00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:07,600
Speaker 1: You know, you see the different options that people are

1179
00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:13,400
Speaker 1: wrong the media picks for the Cowboys, and one of

1180
00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:16,400
Speaker 1: the most popular names still out there is Tyler Linderbaum

1181
00:58:16,560 --> 00:58:19,240
Speaker 1: and that one and we've talked about this on a show.

1182
00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:21,080
Speaker 1: I asked you, Dave, like what do you think about him?

1183
00:58:21,080 --> 00:58:23,880
Speaker 1: And all that, which is great, like the talent that

1184
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:27,200
Speaker 1: he has, But I'm still like, I wouldn't be excited

1185
00:58:27,240 --> 00:58:31,200
Speaker 1: about a center, Like I get a talent, you can

1186
00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:34,320
Speaker 1: also help the guy next to you, as you know,

1187
00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:35,920
Speaker 1: you can help the guard and all that. But I

1188
00:58:36,080 --> 00:58:38,840
Speaker 1: want and I need a guard that is very much

1189
00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:42,840
Speaker 1: capable of handling his own, you know, and not so

1190
00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:45,160
Speaker 1: I don't know. I just want a guard. That's all

1191
00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:49,800
Speaker 1: I want. Okay, Nick, Yeah, I definitely I want them

1192
00:58:49,840 --> 00:58:51,960
Speaker 1: to get an offensive linement that can play. Right now,

1193
00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:55,760
Speaker 1: I think if I had to guess. I think they're

1194
00:58:55,800 --> 00:58:58,200
Speaker 1: going to take a receiver, That's what I would think

1195
00:58:58,440 --> 00:59:01,120
Speaker 1: they would do. But I hope that they take an

1196
00:59:01,160 --> 00:59:05,360
Speaker 1: offensive lineman and one that's got some position flex to him. Well,

1197
00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:08,800
Speaker 1: a guy that can play guard and maybe eventually center.

1198
00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:10,960
Speaker 1: A guy who can play guard and maybe eventually tackle,

1199
00:59:11,320 --> 00:59:12,840
Speaker 1: you know, you know, play a few years and then

1200
00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:14,960
Speaker 1: move out there if if you need it. There's some

1201
00:59:15,080 --> 00:59:17,960
Speaker 1: guys like that. I think. I think Zion Johnson's very versatile,

1202
00:59:18,040 --> 00:59:23,040
Speaker 1: Kenyon Green, Tyler Smith, Tulsa. I think there's there's a

1203
00:59:23,120 --> 00:59:25,720
Speaker 1: chance there, but I think somebody that's got some versatility

1204
00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:28,960
Speaker 1: on the offensive line. Zion does have center flexibility, which

1205
00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:32,440
Speaker 1: is interesting. Yeah, And what's really interesting about him is,

1206
00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:35,320
Speaker 1: and we have a story up today on him. He

1207
00:59:35,640 --> 00:59:38,480
Speaker 1: started forty nine games I think in college, twenty six

1208
00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:43,400
Speaker 1: at at guard, twenty three at tackle, and he's got center,

1209
00:59:43,640 --> 00:59:46,840
Speaker 1: you know, a possibility too. So you know, he played

1210
00:59:46,920 --> 00:59:49,800
Speaker 1: three years, was three years at Davidson Wreck, you know,

1211
00:59:49,960 --> 00:59:52,280
Speaker 1: it was you know, obviously at lower level. Then went

1212
00:59:52,320 --> 00:59:54,400
Speaker 1: to Boston College and was still pretty good too. So

1213
00:59:54,920 --> 00:59:58,160
Speaker 1: position flex for him. Strength That means Zion Johnson would

1214
00:59:58,160 --> 01:00:01,000
Speaker 1: be good. But you know, don't be surprised if some

1215
01:00:01,320 --> 01:00:04,080
Speaker 1: you know, just just in somebody that's good position flex

1216
01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:06,520
Speaker 1: that thinks the kid. Oh all right. I appreciate you

1217
01:00:06,600 --> 01:00:09,560
Speaker 1: guys joining us. We will be back next week on Wednesday.

1218
01:00:09,560 --> 01:00:11,200
Speaker 1: We'll let you guys know what we think about the

1219
01:00:11,320 --> 01:00:13,480
Speaker 1: draft and what the Cowboys got and where they may

1220
01:00:13,600 --> 01:00:15,800
Speaker 1: still be some holes. We'll talk about that next Wednesday.

1221
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Speaker 1: Till then. For Nick Eatman, Dave Hellman, and Amber Garcia.

1222
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Speaker 1: I am Derek Eaculeton. This hasn't In the Break live

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