WEBVTT -  BA Q&A: I Just Found Out My Salary Was a Lie

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<v Speaker 1>It's time for the big a q A, the big

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<v Speaker 1>eight with Manda, the b a q A with Ti

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<v Speaker 1>Today the b a q a A, It's time for

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<v Speaker 1>Brown a Vision, the question and answers. You have questions,

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<v Speaker 1>we have some answers. We are your smart, savvy, beautiful

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<v Speaker 1>if I do say so myself, and I just to

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<v Speaker 1>say myself financial friends, but we're not your attorney, we're

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<v Speaker 1>not your financial advisors. So certainly leaning to people that

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<v Speaker 1>you pay for the next level advice and just take

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<v Speaker 1>what we say with a grain of salts.

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<v Speaker 2>Get your salt shakers out. We should make ba branded

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<v Speaker 2>salt shakers.

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<v Speaker 3>So we got some really good questions.

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<v Speaker 1>We're doing career questions today, So for Brown A Vision

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<v Speaker 1>b a q A. You know we take career questions,

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<v Speaker 1>personal finance questions, business questions, and so we've got some

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<v Speaker 1>career questions that I write up at Mandress.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm excited to dive in.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh can I say a quick shout out because I

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<v Speaker 2>just remember remember our fave Kevin Kas with wife and

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<v Speaker 2>with the wife. Yes, and if you guys, I think

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<v Speaker 2>we had it done a whole ba qa dedicated to

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<v Speaker 2>Kevin and his wife, but the whole family is now

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<v Speaker 2>into BA now because he DMed me to let me

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<v Speaker 2>know that he signed his daughter up again. Kevin always

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<v Speaker 2>meddling the woman in his lives, but he's signed his

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<v Speaker 2>daughter up for my negotiating master class. Like, I just

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<v Speaker 2>want to know she's going to be there. Here's her name.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm good for you.

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<v Speaker 1>Kevin's like, yeah, he's doing what's he's doing, Like the

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<v Speaker 1>last episode of Like, I'm just walking in your house

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<v Speaker 1>to make sure you're good.

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<v Speaker 3>You're like, uh, okay, we'll take care of myself.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks, But no, I mean I love it though, because

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<v Speaker 1>Kevin just wants what's best with the women in his lives.

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<v Speaker 3>But but I love this one.

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<v Speaker 2>Women to win, all right, But let's get into these questions.

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<v Speaker 2>There's some juicy, juicy ones you want to read. The

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<v Speaker 2>first one to.

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<v Speaker 1>City Floor says, Hey, Mandy aunt Tiphony, I so love

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<v Speaker 1>your podcast. Y'all got me crying and leafing at the

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<v Speaker 1>same time. Yes, I listen to every one of your podcasts.

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<v Speaker 1>I would love to see you guys live, like on

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<v Speaker 1>a book tour or Smiley face. My question, flast decision

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<v Speaker 1>is that I need some advice that I need some

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<v Speaker 1>advice on is this. I was recently offered a new

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<v Speaker 1>job at a reputable and stable been around since the

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen hundred type of stable private company that also offers

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<v Speaker 1>an annual bonus, stock options, and yearly pay increase. I

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<v Speaker 1>get none of these perks at my current job, sadly,

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<v Speaker 1>and it would be a ten thousand dollars increase from

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<v Speaker 1>my current salary.

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<v Speaker 3>Sounds awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>My issue is that I am thirty seven years old

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm planning to have a baby soon, hopefully get

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<v Speaker 1>pregnant before the end of the year. Would it be

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<v Speaker 1>unwise of me to take this new job because I

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<v Speaker 1>missed out on FMLA benefits because I wouldn't be at

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<v Speaker 1>the job for a year before giving birth. Or should

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<v Speaker 1>I stay at my current job and have the stability

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<v Speaker 1>and peace of mind knowing that I'll QUI for FMLA

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<v Speaker 1>and keep my job post pregnancy leave. Please help with

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<v Speaker 1>lots of love and appreciation. City floor translates to city

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<v Speaker 1>flower cute.

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<v Speaker 2>First of all, our country is trash. Why do we

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<v Speaker 2>still not offer I like, why do we still not

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<v Speaker 2>offer family parental leave just as a blanket policy? I

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<v Speaker 2>just have no idea, and thank you City Floor for

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<v Speaker 2>reminding me how trash our policy is. Because even with

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<v Speaker 2>a Family Medical Leave Act Act, you do need to

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<v Speaker 2>work at a place for a year to qualify, and

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<v Speaker 2>even then, all you're qualifying for is twelve weeks of

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<v Speaker 2>unpaid leave and some job security. So I'm guessing at

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<v Speaker 2>her current job and this new job, they don't offer

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<v Speaker 2>any like of their own maternal leave benefits, So they

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<v Speaker 2>don't give you any kind of paid family leave.

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<v Speaker 1>Like they're good, yeah, if you just compare to some

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<v Speaker 1>of the stuff they don't offer, like the bonus in

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<v Speaker 1>the stock options that sounds like this place doesn't is

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<v Speaker 1>very bare bones.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So I'm trying to like work out the timing here.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you, it takes nine months to cook a baby,

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<v Speaker 2>that's simple. You could wait a few months, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and and you may want to just wait a few

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<v Speaker 2>months to kind of get your feet under you at

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<v Speaker 2>this new job. But then I feel like if you

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<v Speaker 2>start after a few months, then you're pretty much guaranteed

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<v Speaker 2>unless the baby comes early. I mean, who it's hard

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<v Speaker 2>to plan around a pregnancy because it's so much of

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<v Speaker 2>it as out of our control, right, But to that extent.

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<v Speaker 2>You could wait a few months. I know you're thirty seven,

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<v Speaker 2>you're still I mean, I'm thirty five too, so I

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<v Speaker 2>know it's in that geriatric pregnancy phase. And I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know anything about your I know, right, I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>anything about your fertility journey or if you've had struggles

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<v Speaker 2>getting pregnant. But you know it may take longer than

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<v Speaker 2>a few months to get pregnant. Unless you married a

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<v Speaker 2>Dominican like me, there is no try there's only do

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you say we're gonna try instant pregnancy any

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<v Speaker 2>but yeah, so you could wait a few months and

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<v Speaker 2>then start trying, and then you know you'll be around

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<v Speaker 2>that year mark. There's there's better benefits though, the annual bonus,

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<v Speaker 2>you have stock options, you get a yearly pay increase,

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<v Speaker 2>a ten k increase from your current salary. It's difficult.

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<v Speaker 2>I think you're just going to have to choose how

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<v Speaker 2>you want to gamble it. But if you do choose

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<v Speaker 2>to go to the new job, regardless, even if you

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<v Speaker 2>did qualify for the FMLA, you'd still have to be

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<v Speaker 2>bankrolling your own attorney leap. It sounds like so you'd

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<v Speaker 2>want to start putting aside the funds now and figuring

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<v Speaker 2>out how much time do I want to give myself off?

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<v Speaker 2>Hopefully it's that full twelve weeks. Even the Lord knows

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<v Speaker 2>we need more? Yeah, and how much? How much is

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<v Speaker 2>your noodle budget? Right, so Tiffany go to Tiffany's noodle budget,

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<v Speaker 2>like what do you guys need? Although it's like noodle

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<v Speaker 2>plus a baby budget? So more, I want your noodle

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<v Speaker 2>budget with me because pampers ain't cheap, and start, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>start to like plan ahead to see, okay, how much

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<v Speaker 2>would you need to set aside? And hey, maybe with

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<v Speaker 2>that with uh, if you could ask for a signing bonus.

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<v Speaker 2>I know that they offer an annual bonus, but maybe

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<v Speaker 2>there's still time. I don't know when this job offer

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<v Speaker 2>came through, maybe you could still ask for a bit

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<v Speaker 2>of a signing bonus and kind of bank that to

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<v Speaker 2>go toward your maternity leave fund. But dang, I just

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<v Speaker 2>hate that we don't we don't do better for our

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<v Speaker 2>our working families out there, especially mothers. This family because

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<v Speaker 2>this company could miss out and a badass woman because

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<v Speaker 2>they don't. They don't recognize that we are whole human

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<v Speaker 2>beings who want to have families and don't make it

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<v Speaker 2>possible for us to do both relatively easily.

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<v Speaker 1>The only thing I'm going to add, just because because

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<v Speaker 1>Mandy cover basically everything, is that I just want to

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<v Speaker 1>commend you for understanding that family planning is also financial planning.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, unless you're like sixteen, you're like, uh, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>And so like you know that.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, as an adult, you know, as you're planning

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<v Speaker 1>your family, you want to be intentional about Okay, you

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<v Speaker 1>know that. I mean, certainly you know you don't know

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<v Speaker 1>what your fertility journey to mandy'scot is going to be,

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<v Speaker 1>but you do know my financial journey is going to

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<v Speaker 1>have to support whatever my fertility journey is. And so

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just going to commend you for just thinking these

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<v Speaker 1>things through, because not to say people just have babies

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<v Speaker 1>don't think about it. Certainly people do, but I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think people realize just the amount of planning. Because the

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<v Speaker 1>truth is, I'm sure Mandy could tell you could plan, plan, plan,

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<v Speaker 1>and the baby gets here and it's like, wait, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like some of the best laces plans go out the

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<v Speaker 1>window because things are more.

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<v Speaker 3>Expensive than you think. You know, there are things you

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<v Speaker 3>didn't even think of.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like there's a favorite quote that says everyone has

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<v Speaker 1>a plan until you get punched in the face, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>And I feel like you know in some ways you

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<v Speaker 1>know you have your baby, especially if it's your first,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a punch in the face. So I just want

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<v Speaker 1>to say that that, like, you know, continue to make

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<v Speaker 1>those plans, like Mandy said, stack up as much as

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<v Speaker 1>you can. It might be time to ask yourself, are

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<v Speaker 1>the things we can do to downsize to leave a

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<v Speaker 1>little more space for money, But certainly having a child

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<v Speaker 1>that you desire to have is a blessing. And so

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't wait on anybody's job or whatever to dictate that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, because one of the things I've heard from

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<v Speaker 1>every single mama is that you find a way. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you find a way. Not to say it's easy, but

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<v Speaker 1>you find a way. And so we wish you luck

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<v Speaker 1>on the on the baby journey and the financial journey

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<v Speaker 1>and city floor continue to bloom.

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<v Speaker 2>And I will just give you peace of mind that

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<v Speaker 2>like you were able to get another job opportunity, and

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<v Speaker 2>there will be other ones, you know, if you're if

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<v Speaker 2>that's what you want, a better job opportunity, and so

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<v Speaker 2>if you decide listen, with my tolerance for risk and

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<v Speaker 2>my stress levels, I just want to have something that

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<v Speaker 2>I know for sure, like the devil that you know.

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<v Speaker 2>And you want to state where you are because you

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<v Speaker 2>have the benefit and like you said, you have that

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<v Speaker 2>relative job security. There's no shame in that, you know

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<v Speaker 2>what I mean. It's really just down to every decision

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<v Speaker 2>is a little bit of a gamble, So what can

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<v Speaker 2>you tolerate and working that out if you have a partner,

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<v Speaker 2>and settling on what's best for you and your family.

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<v Speaker 2>But I wish you all the best, like Tiffany said,

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<v Speaker 2>and thank you so much for sending us your question.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, back to our country being trash, I don't understand. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>let's take a quick breaking break and we'll be right

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<v Speaker 2>back with question number two. This was a long and

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<v Speaker 2>juicy one. Y'all do not want to miss this. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, we got a big question. How do I

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<v Speaker 2>even approach this? Just repart one?

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<v Speaker 3>First?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, but I well, I think read it through and

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<v Speaker 1>they will break it down. But maybe I'm nervous about

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<v Speaker 1>this might be her own name, so let's call her

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<v Speaker 1>something else because this is very specific and she's.

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<v Speaker 3>Young, so I don't want to refer to her as

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<v Speaker 3>b okay. B okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she says, refer to me as be okay And

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<v Speaker 2>this is from a young and so we want to

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<v Speaker 2>take good care of you oka b B says, Hey, ladies,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm twenty three years old and your podcast and book

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<v Speaker 2>Tiffany have been essential in helping me navigate the financial

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<v Speaker 2>part of adulting tremendously. Thank you for all your tips

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<v Speaker 2>and tricks. Will you refer to me as b Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>So here's the thing. I am a full full time

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<v Speaker 2>graphic designer at a small creative agency. Recently, I went

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<v Speaker 2>in for my six month review and I received a raise.

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<v Speaker 2>During this meeting with my boss, however, I found out

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<v Speaker 2>she's only been paid me based on a thirty six

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<v Speaker 2>thousand dollars salary, but I didn't agree to that. I

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<v Speaker 2>agreed to thirty eight thousand dollars when I moved into

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<v Speaker 2>a full time role from my internship. I explicitly remembered

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<v Speaker 2>taking the weekend to think about it and counter offering

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<v Speaker 2>with a number closer to forty two K. She ultimately

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<v Speaker 2>offered me thirty eight K and agreed to bump me

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<v Speaker 2>up to forty K. When my review came up. It's

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<v Speaker 2>only a two K difference, but it's bothering me because

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<v Speaker 2>I would have never agreed to thirty six k because

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<v Speaker 2>after doing the math, it was less than what she

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<v Speaker 2>paid me as an intern. Okay, my question is, and

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<v Speaker 2>this is the first part of a question, should I

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<v Speaker 2>ask for back pay and proof of the now forty

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<v Speaker 2>K salary so I don't get bamboozled again?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, yes, immediately.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>My first response is like, where's the where's the receipts?

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<v Speaker 2>You know this? Please tell me there is paperwork like

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<v Speaker 2>you had an offer letter, the letter, Yes, there was

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<v Speaker 2>some sort of agreement that you had to sign that

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<v Speaker 2>you mails, Yeah, even emails, any kind of paper trail

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<v Speaker 2>that you can find. I'm also wondering did she acknowledge

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<v Speaker 2>that she had screwed up in the review cycle.

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<v Speaker 1>It sounds like she might not have brought it up.

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<v Speaker 1>It sounds like she probably was like, you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>said the kind of stunned. It sounds like maybe B

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<v Speaker 1>was like, wait, yeah, you know so B.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like in this situation, I think if you're

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<v Speaker 2>someone like me to be able to write down like

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<v Speaker 2>your own timeline of events and offer the receipts and

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<v Speaker 2>then present that to your boss as hey, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>after our six month review, I started to get confused.

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<v Speaker 2>So I just wanted to write down my recollections and

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<v Speaker 2>the documentation that I have of our earlier agreement to

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<v Speaker 2>my salary. I understand, Like, maybe you can even throw

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<v Speaker 2>her a little bit of a you know, a bone

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<v Speaker 2>and be like, I understand sometimes clerical error, clerical oracles,

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<v Speaker 2>clerical error errors can happen, but I expect to be

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<v Speaker 2>compensated for backpay because I have not been paid according

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<v Speaker 2>to the salary that we agreed upon. And you should

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<v Speaker 2>see what she says, and then, honestly, if the response

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<v Speaker 2>is no, I think you have I think you have

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<v Speaker 2>all the rights to contact an employment law attorney, and

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<v Speaker 2>I would say, based on your age and your salary level,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe they'd even offer you like pro bono advice or

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<v Speaker 2>pro bono help. Sometimes you don't even need to like

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<v Speaker 2>go with a full fledged lawsuit. Just a letter from

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<v Speaker 2>an attorney showing that they're going to have, like you

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<v Speaker 2>know that you have some legal advice on your side

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<v Speaker 2>could be enough to get them to get their shit together,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like anything you would add to that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, also too, this like, oh my god, she's so young,

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that she said, should I ask for proof

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<v Speaker 1>of my now forty thousand case? The thing is, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>that's just standard, like so many said, Like so for example,

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<v Speaker 1>when someone signs on with me, even if it's just

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<v Speaker 1>a contractor there's a contract in place where it says,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, this is how much you're going to make.

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<v Speaker 1>This is you know, like you get paid every you know,

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<v Speaker 1>first and the fifteenth or whatever that there's a contract

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<v Speaker 1>in place. So one, there's an offer letter, depending on

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<v Speaker 1>what type of if it's a full time or part

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<v Speaker 1>time employee, you get an offer letter, but at the

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<v Speaker 1>very least, on top of that, you also get a

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<v Speaker 1>contract because we have to be you know, we have

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<v Speaker 1>to legally be binding and so but I get it

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<v Speaker 1>because it's a very small business, and if I'm being honest,

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<v Speaker 1>we didn't start doing that until maybe like five years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>So ten years in we were just flying like this

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<v Speaker 1>small business is doing. So I'm not even shading them

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<v Speaker 1>because I get it, but you should ask, like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, one, i'd love an offer letter for this,

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<v Speaker 1>and then two, is there a contract for my for

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<v Speaker 1>my my forty thousand so that's not something extra, just

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<v Speaker 1>so you know, moving forward, always, always, always, at the

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<v Speaker 1>very least, they should be a contract in place.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, and that contract should explicitly state here's your

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<v Speaker 2>annual compensation, and then here's what it is on a

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<v Speaker 2>bi weekly basis. So it should say here's what you

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<v Speaker 2>can't expect to get paid, you know, on your paycheck,

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<v Speaker 2>just to make it abundantly clear. So let's go to

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<v Speaker 2>part two of her question, because there's more Now for

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<v Speaker 2>the next part, she says, this review came a few

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<v Speaker 2>weeks earlier because I disclosed to her that I was

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<v Speaker 2>applying for a freelance position, unaware that she doesn't want

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<v Speaker 2>us freelancing. On the side, she mentioned there's a non

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<v Speaker 2>compete agreement, but I never signed one with her, though

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<v Speaker 2>I know her disapproval for me freelancing. I am tight

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<v Speaker 2>on cash. No shit, you're only making peanuts, Okay. I

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<v Speaker 2>live alone and I pay nine to seventy five in rent.

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<v Speaker 2>Downsizing isn't an option because of the benefits of my

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<v Speaker 2>current place stabilize, rent payment flexibility, et cetera. Long story short,

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<v Speaker 2>I need more money. Since she's not willing to supplement

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<v Speaker 2>the money I would be making with freelance work and

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to serve tables anymore because it's demeaning, straining,

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<v Speaker 2>and not to mention, I have a degree I could

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<v Speaker 2>be putting to use morally, should I continue to freelance? Discreetly?

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry for the long message. I hope you can offer

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<v Speaker 2>some clarity. Thank you for your time.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh baby, I know.

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<v Speaker 2>You need to get up on out of here, go

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<v Speaker 2>to get all on about it. Are you a danger girl,

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<v Speaker 2>b B You're in danger? Yeah, So I would make

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<v Speaker 2>sure that your LinkedIn and you are applying and getting

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<v Speaker 2>your name out there. I know there's tons of places

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<v Speaker 2>that would love to work with a talented graphic designer,

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<v Speaker 2>plus you have a degree in that field. That being said,

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<v Speaker 2>the thing is you should be working at a place

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<v Speaker 2>that's going to compensate you fairly and compensate you and

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<v Speaker 2>value you correctly so that you're not in a position

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<v Speaker 2>where you need to be doing a lot of extra

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<v Speaker 2>freelance work. And this whole non compete bullshit. I really

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<v Speaker 2>take issue with that because as a journalist, it became

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<v Speaker 2>more common that media sites would have us sign non

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<v Speaker 2>compete agreements, which is really difficult because you know, you're

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<v Speaker 2>not in a field. We're getting paid a lot in

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<v Speaker 2>the first place, and would they would like limit your

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<v Speaker 2>potential for additional income. And I have a friend who

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<v Speaker 2>just quit a huge job at Bloomberg because they would

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<v Speaker 2>not allow her to make any money using her skills

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<v Speaker 2>as a financial journalist.

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<v Speaker 3>I know what it is. I talked to her.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what, everyone knows who that is.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, wait, a bite, that's.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, so yeah, So I think if this is

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<v Speaker 2>going to become a recurring theme for you as you

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<v Speaker 2>go through working full time as a graphic designer, Unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 2>there's not much we can do as long as we

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<v Speaker 2>want to work full time. If a company has a

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<v Speaker 2>non compete, you know they can enforce it. It doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>sound like you actually signed one with this company. You

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<v Speaker 2>say that you didn't, So I would say, she can't

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<v Speaker 2>stop you. I would continue doing it discreetly. Also, honestly,

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<v Speaker 2>you need to make ends meet, and like you said,

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<v Speaker 2>you need to actually use your Like if you had

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<v Speaker 2>a choice between waiting tables or using your degree and

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<v Speaker 2>building your skill set to bring an additional income, Hell, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you should be doing that. So I mean I fully

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<v Speaker 2>support you continuing different lands. I just wouldn't. I just wouldn't,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, tell her that you're doing it and be

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<v Speaker 2>as discreed as you can. And on top of that,

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<v Speaker 2>i'd we start making moves so that you can move

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<v Speaker 2>on to a new firm, leverage the experience you have.

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<v Speaker 2>You're already interning with her, now you're working full time

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<v Speaker 2>for six months. You probably have a year's worth of

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<v Speaker 2>experience at this point, you know, and move on to

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<v Speaker 2>a new role that is going to pay you better hopefully,

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<v Speaker 2>and like actually have their documentation in place so that

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<v Speaker 2>they can't propose to you like this, because.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll say, like this, so so here over at budget

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<v Speaker 3>these to ink right.

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<v Speaker 1>We do have a non compete, but it's non compete,

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<v Speaker 1>like you can't do this for a similar company, not

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<v Speaker 1>that you can't do this at all. So if you like, say,

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<v Speaker 1>run ads for us, you can run ads for anybody,

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<v Speaker 1>but not also a financial a personal financial brand in

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<v Speaker 1>this way, you know, because then you're like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>using all of our trade secrets to then do this

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<v Speaker 1>for someone else.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's what our non compete.

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<v Speaker 1>That it's not that you can't work other places, it's

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<v Speaker 1>just you can't work for a similar company like this,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think, you know that makes sense. And I'll

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<v Speaker 1>just say all this to say so one of my

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<v Speaker 1>employees actually contacted me, and I was so proud of her.

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<v Speaker 1>I said, many you would have been so proud of her.

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<v Speaker 1>She was like, hey, you know, she got on my

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<v Speaker 1>calendar and I think we're gonna talk about something else,

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<v Speaker 1>and she was like, I just wanted to reach out

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<v Speaker 1>to you. I said, did you take Mandy's own networking class?

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<v Speaker 1>Because you know, if I say her no, You're.

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<v Speaker 3>Like, oh, I love her.

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<v Speaker 1>She was like, so with the current, with inflation of happening,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the income that I'm making is not quite enough.

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<v Speaker 1>So but I and I know I have to I

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<v Speaker 1>have to have a second source of income. And so

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<v Speaker 1>she was like, but I love working here, and so

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<v Speaker 1>I have a couple of companies. She works at one company,

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<v Speaker 1>and she's like, I would love to you know, if

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<v Speaker 1>there is space. I've she's been helping out with my

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<v Speaker 1>other companies. She's like, I would love for that second

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<v Speaker 1>source of income to come from you know, this other company,

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<v Speaker 1>because I you know, I love working within the Budgetista

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<v Speaker 1>family because either way, I have to make more money.

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<v Speaker 1>She had a presentation broken down and I was like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So I said in my head, I thought she was

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<v Speaker 1>just thinking about it. I was like, do you have

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<v Speaker 1>an idea of what you want to make? She's like,

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<v Speaker 1>I actually do. I did a little market research about that.

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<v Speaker 3>I was so proud of it. I was like, does

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<v Speaker 3>she take me in this class?

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<v Speaker 1>So she gave me this like presentation yes, with market

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<v Speaker 1>research about like the range of how much da da da,

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<v Speaker 1>And I just was like, but I've learned because old

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<v Speaker 1>Tiffany just be saying yes, yes, that's the tificany slow

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<v Speaker 1>down because one I have to ask the company of

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<v Speaker 1>mine that she does work for, to ask that CEO like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, do you have the space I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to encroach, like if you're like, oh my gosh, we're

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<v Speaker 1>drowning here.

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<v Speaker 3>And then too, because I was like hell yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Then I also but I also asked my team, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>is this is this a position that you're needing me

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<v Speaker 1>while my team is like MirOS and Logan.

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<v Speaker 3>So I just asked Logan, I'm like, you need this girl,

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<v Speaker 3>you know? She was like yes, girl. So I was

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<v Speaker 3>like okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So I was like, I'm learning too that even when

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<v Speaker 1>if it seems like this amazing opportunity that like to

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<v Speaker 1>slow down. I said, I'll let you know by monday

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<v Speaker 1>with you yesterday and then I said, you know, so

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, I spoke to the other the.

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<v Speaker 3>Other CEO, I spoke to our team. Everyone's in agreement.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I'm just going to talk to finance, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm going to share with her your you know,

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<v Speaker 1>financial assessment, and then we're going to because sometimes what

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<v Speaker 1>people do is when they make an assessment, they make

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<v Speaker 1>this generalized assessment like I'm a CMO and this is

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<v Speaker 1>what they make. Yes, but is it in the same industry,

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<v Speaker 1>same business size, and so at the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 1>our numbers are our numbers, you know. So I said,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't you know, so I'm going to ask my

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<v Speaker 1>CFO today, can you take a look, And then I'll

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<v Speaker 1>ask our HR person does this make sense?

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<v Speaker 3>And then I'll make current offer.

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<v Speaker 1>But one I just say all that to say that,

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<v Speaker 1>like you see how that all work professionally, because then

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<v Speaker 1>she'll get a nothing necessarily an offer letter, but she'll

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<v Speaker 1>definitely get like a new contract with with you know,

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<v Speaker 1>with with my company. To say, you know, in addition

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<v Speaker 1>to this, you have this kind of like additional income,

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<v Speaker 1>but you should be you should feel free to have

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<v Speaker 1>those kind of conversations. There should be some sort of

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<v Speaker 1>like paper trail that comes along with it. And like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you want people to value the things that

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<v Speaker 1>you bring to the table. And so I just you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you're really young, and I you know, I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>you to be afraid to say, hey, should I get

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<v Speaker 1>proof of what I'm getting paid? Absolutely, that's like that's

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<v Speaker 1>that's the bars is in Its a zero for that.

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<v Speaker 3>And so we wish you well be and you know,

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<v Speaker 3>and you're really young.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm hoping too that you know, put your work

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<v Speaker 1>out there, you know, and you know, honestly, send me

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<v Speaker 1>an email, send me a link. Like you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>tippy at the budget needs to send me a link

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<v Speaker 1>to your stuff. Because sometimes we do have outside things

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<v Speaker 1>like you know where I'm just like, oh, we need

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<v Speaker 1>somebody to make that for us.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, you know, Mandy might need that too.

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<v Speaker 1>So one thing you'll learn with especially when you work

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<v Speaker 1>with entrepreneurs, is that people tend to come to us

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<v Speaker 1>and say, who do you use for this? I love

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<v Speaker 1>this thing that was made and so like you know, join.

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<v Speaker 2>Entrepreneurs like designers.

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<v Speaker 1>What you're on high demand economy girl, everybody's a gigs

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<v Speaker 1>out there.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, I'm just like, who needs.

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<v Speaker 2>This kind of help?

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<v Speaker 1>I promise you could make more than thirty something just

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<v Speaker 1>off freelancing if you got yourself out there. There's literally

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<v Speaker 1>like a Facebook group. If you haven't, even though you're young,

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<v Speaker 1>you're probably not on Facebook. Join. There's a group called

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<v Speaker 1>build It Launch It holds it with Rsha Arsha Jones.

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<v Speaker 1>And I like this group because it's full with entrepreneurs,

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<v Speaker 1>mostly women, and they're looking for people. And I would

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<v Speaker 1>literally go into groups like this type in Graphic designer

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<v Speaker 1>where people are saying they're looking for someone and then

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<v Speaker 1>message them or say hey, I can do that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like so I like I like doing that. So like

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<v Speaker 1>it's I'm going to find you.

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<v Speaker 3>Build brand.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me see what is it with Arsha Build Okay brand,

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<v Speaker 1>Build plus Launch with Arsha Jones. And it's literally tens

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<v Speaker 1>of thousands of entrepreneurs and there's thirty five thousand, almost

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<v Speaker 1>thirty six thousand members and almost all there I'm entrepreneurs.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you type in the search bar graphic designer,

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<v Speaker 1>I prompt you'll find work, and so we wish you

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<v Speaker 1>well being like, you know, don't let them people take

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<v Speaker 1>advantage of you. You're young, but you're not foolish, and

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<v Speaker 1>so sometimes people see youth and they want to take

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<v Speaker 1>advantage like, no, that's not okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, absolutely, And this is a great learning opportunity for

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<v Speaker 2>you too, and a good learning lesson. Everyone's got to

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<v Speaker 2>start somewhere, right, you're an intern, then you got paid

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<v Speaker 2>kind of crappy money, like I had the same start

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<v Speaker 2>in my career too, But it's just about how long

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<v Speaker 2>are you going to stay there and allow them to

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<v Speaker 2>continue to undervalue, right, So not any longer than you

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<v Speaker 2>absolutely need to start building up that freelance those those

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<v Speaker 2>freelance gigs you can start building that incremental in common

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<v Speaker 2>then looking for, you know, a full time role that

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<v Speaker 2>will actually pay you well. But we thank you for

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<v Speaker 2>your question. I know it was a big one, but

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<v Speaker 2>it was juvecy nonetheless, and thanks so much for listening. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>all right to fu feel like we put some good

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<v Speaker 2>out into the world. We did, right, that was a

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