WEBVTT - BS Bagels with Paget Brewster... (S4 E7 "Time and Punishment")

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, I'm Kristin Davis, and I want to know are

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<v Speaker 1>you a Charlotte? Hey, everybody, welcome back to Are You

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<v Speaker 1>a Charlotte? Today we are rewatching Time and Punishment, which

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<v Speaker 1>is from season four, episode seven, and we have a

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<v Speaker 1>super fun guest. Paget Brewster is on Criminal Minds for

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<v Speaker 1>a really really long time and also so many other

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<v Speaker 1>fun things. She was on Friends, she had her own

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<v Speaker 1>talk show called The Paget Show. She has a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of sex and the city knowledge, and she's a super fan.

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<v Speaker 1>So enjoy Paget. Thank you for joining us. It's so exciting.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you for having me. This is so exciting for

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<v Speaker 2>me and a little scary.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh don't be screw.

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<v Speaker 2>And the show have had such a massive impact on

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<v Speaker 2>my life that it's like, don't meet your heroes, And

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<v Speaker 2>I'm kind of scared, but I'm so excited to be

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<v Speaker 2>doing this. Thank you so much for asking me.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, we're so excited to have you, and I I

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<v Speaker 1>mean I just probably just start by telling us like

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<v Speaker 1>when you say an impact on your life, like tell

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<v Speaker 1>us what you mean, and also like have you also

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<v Speaker 1>done other podcasts where you have broken down and just

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<v Speaker 1>like that, like I need to hear all the different.

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<v Speaker 2>Things I did. Some friends of mine, Paul F. Tompkins

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<v Speaker 2>and Jenny had Ed Tompkins, did a podcast about and

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<v Speaker 2>just like that, and they were it was just them

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<v Speaker 2>at home. They would have what they call weekend water,

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<v Speaker 2>so they would drink a little bit and do a

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<v Speaker 2>podcast about and just like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh God.

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<v Speaker 2>And I would listen to their podcast and be like,

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<v Speaker 2>how do they not know about Ray? And like they

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<v Speaker 2>weren't they they weren't remembering everything. And I've watched Sex

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<v Speaker 2>and the City every episode, every season, five times through

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<v Speaker 2>twice just with my husband. So it's it's uh. But

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<v Speaker 2>I also think the show Sex and the City opened

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<v Speaker 2>doors for women acting at a time when it had

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<v Speaker 2>really gone away, and so I've been able to maintain

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<v Speaker 2>a career for thirty five years. I'm fifty seven. When

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<v Speaker 2>I was thirty two, I thought, oh, it's over. It's over.

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<v Speaker 2>I see if they touched money as I could exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think because of the success of Sex and

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<v Speaker 2>the City, it showed executives and networks and writers that

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<v Speaker 2>women could carry the show and do extremely well, and

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<v Speaker 2>so I think it opened up casting for women over

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<v Speaker 2>thirty five Suddenly.

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<v Speaker 1>Which is amazing and wonderful, and I hope that it

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<v Speaker 1>continues and could continue even more because sometimes from my perspective,

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<v Speaker 1>I do remember when when they were sending this script around,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and everyone was auditioning and whatnot, that it

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<v Speaker 1>was shocking, right, like, oh my god, you know, there's

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<v Speaker 1>really no men, right, like, that's how the script of

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<v Speaker 1>the pilot looked, you know what I'm saying, as opposed

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<v Speaker 1>to say Melrose or you know where I had been.

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<v Speaker 1>But there were equal men and women, and it was

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<v Speaker 1>super soapy, right. This was a new entity, a new

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<v Speaker 1>version of a show, and it was very risky and

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<v Speaker 1>we did not know, We really did not know if

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<v Speaker 1>it was gonna work. I was talking to someone about

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<v Speaker 1>this other day because I remember in the beginning, any

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<v Speaker 1>press that wanted to talk to us, we would just

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<v Speaker 1>be like, okay, and we didn't like we would just

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<v Speaker 1>tell them everything in the beginning because we were just

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<v Speaker 1>so desperate to get press, which is laugh out loud

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<v Speaker 1>funny now, right, like you know.

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<v Speaker 3>But at the time, yeah, it was a totally different

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<v Speaker 3>situation and different like world where we were in charge

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<v Speaker 3>kind of, you know, the characters were in charge and.

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<v Speaker 2>As opposed to being on an equal men and women

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<v Speaker 2>or mostly male and the women were wives, girlfriends, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>daughters period.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, But I.

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<v Speaker 2>Think in the seventies and eighties there were a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of female shows like Golden Girls and Goldie Girls, but

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<v Speaker 2>then into the eighties Designing Women. But there had been

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<v Speaker 2>Mary Tyler, Moore, Rota. There had been all of these

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<v Speaker 2>shows in the seventies and eighties, and it felt like

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<v Speaker 2>the end of the eighties. Beginning in the nineties, it

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<v Speaker 2>stopped until you guys showed up. That's good. There was

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<v Speaker 2>like a dead space for about seven years, I think,

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<v Speaker 2>where executives and networks were not doing shows primarily featuring women, right,

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<v Speaker 2>women were supporting.

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<v Speaker 1>It's also about like who is the show for, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So like like Golden Girls, Designing Women were for women,

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<v Speaker 1>Murphy Brown for women, right, I mean for everyone, but

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<v Speaker 1>for women, and in a way where you feel like, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>you're honored as a consumer, right, You're honored as like

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<v Speaker 1>someone who wants to buy things and whatever. And we

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<v Speaker 1>know all the statistics that women are a very powerful

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<v Speaker 1>group of consumers. But for a while that was kind

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<v Speaker 1>of forgotten. And then when we came along and this

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<v Speaker 1>was kind of an annoying thing. But when we came along,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we had to really like fight hard in

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<v Speaker 1>the beginning to you know, first of all, just state

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<v Speaker 1>what we were right, because people were super confused, like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, are you prostitutes? Like are you like what's happening?

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<v Speaker 1>Because of having sex in the title and they didn't

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<v Speaker 1>know the column right, so not everyone had the understanding,

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<v Speaker 1>the basic understanding. I remember just like literally describing like no,

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<v Speaker 1>we all work, and you know, I had someone ask

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<v Speaker 1>me I was wearing our hat, our first season rap hat,

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<v Speaker 1>and they thought that I was on Real Sex, which

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<v Speaker 1>was like that late night HBO show. Right, yeah, that

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<v Speaker 1>was you know, kind of porn.

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<v Speaker 2>It wasn't it like a not a reality show. Yeah no,

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<v Speaker 2>it was like it was like real people and fetishes.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, yeah, it was ahead of its time, okay for sure, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>but that is not the show that we were trying

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<v Speaker 1>to do, right. We would have to like it's a comedy,

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<v Speaker 1>but then it wasn't a sitcom and there was no

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<v Speaker 1>laugh track and there was no audience, and it was

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<v Speaker 1>single camera but also dramedy kind of know, we had

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<v Speaker 1>very dramatic. It was a whole different entity, but the

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<v Speaker 1>other thing that I feel now, I mean now, we

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<v Speaker 1>have had wonderful shows like Insecure, we have I Love La.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, there are elements where you can say, oh, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I think all of those were HBO, But it didn't

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<v Speaker 1>spawn this kind of wider revival that I expected it

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<v Speaker 1>to spawn in terms of like different women's voices on shows.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you know I felt like I was able to

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<v Speaker 2>continue acting because of the success of Sex and the

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<v Speaker 2>City and that there was a greater creation of roles

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<v Speaker 2>for women that were multi dimensional and they had failings.

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<v Speaker 2>And I have to ask you, when did you start

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<v Speaker 2>to feel like, oh, everyone gets it now, they know

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<v Speaker 2>what we're doing and who we are. When did you

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<v Speaker 2>feel secure that the show was successful and everyone got

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<v Speaker 2>it and you and you guys had put this baby

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<v Speaker 2>out into the world and it was and it was

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<v Speaker 2>Bill loved.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Third season, third season, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that late.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>People laugh when I tell them, they were like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>it was a big hit. No, I mean it was.

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<v Speaker 1>We were We were very known in New York, right

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<v Speaker 1>because we were like getting all the actors that were

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<v Speaker 1>on Broadway, and we were making a big effort, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you had law and order and then you

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<v Speaker 1>had us, right, So actors knew about us, and New

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<v Speaker 1>York City people knew about us, but we didn't feel

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<v Speaker 1>like the world knew about us. And I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>that we expected the world to know about us. Like

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<v Speaker 1>we were going to do our best, you know, we

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<v Speaker 1>were going to try to live up to the hopes

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<v Speaker 1>that HBO had, right, you know, we wanted to do

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<v Speaker 1>our job right, but we never really expected like wide

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<v Speaker 1>widespread success. So it was just kind of, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>shocking and also kind of really in some ways hard

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<v Speaker 1>to take in. And I would say third season because

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<v Speaker 1>third season is when we got nominated for an Emmy,

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<v Speaker 1>which we never never, never, never never thought would happened,

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<v Speaker 1>Like never thought what happened because Cable at that point

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<v Speaker 1>was weird, right, Like the Sopranos hadn't won yet, we

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<v Speaker 1>had won our Golden Globe, and we were just like

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<v Speaker 1>like you're in the headline, like what are we doing here?

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<v Speaker 1>Like literally like what planet have we landed on? Like

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<v Speaker 1>when they called our names, we were just like, what

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<v Speaker 1>we have to stand up in front of all this

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<v Speaker 1>movie stars? Oh my god, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>Like it was just shocking and had rained that day

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<v Speaker 1>of the Golden Globe, so my hairs, Like we were

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<v Speaker 1>a hot mess, you know, we were like little children,

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<v Speaker 1>like at the grown up party, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>But then and that was cool, right, But the Golden

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<v Speaker 1>Globes were like their own weird entity. But we didn't

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<v Speaker 1>really think that the Emmys, who were definitely you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the Award for Television obviously very mainstream, we didn't expect

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<v Speaker 1>that to ever happen much less third season. And I

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<v Speaker 1>remember when my mom called me and I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>why are you calling me so early because we would

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<v Speaker 1>work all night, right, she was calling me and tell

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<v Speaker 1>me that we got an eminated for Amy And I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, god, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>Your mother, no one, your agent, your she beat them,

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<v Speaker 2>She beat them to Your mom beat everyone to it.

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<v Speaker 1>She excited, She was very excited, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, she she beat everybody to it. I did

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<v Speaker 1>think that maybe my mom was mistaken, even do you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I mean? Like I was your mom, like

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<v Speaker 1>what are you sure? And you know this is the

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<v Speaker 1>olden day flip phone cell phone right where I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh no, someone else is calling. I don't even know

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<v Speaker 1>how to click over and then I realized, oh no,

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<v Speaker 1>it is actually actually real, Like what the heck, Like

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<v Speaker 1>it's insane, but I didn't even then. It was hard

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<v Speaker 1>to really take it in, you know, it was hard

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<v Speaker 1>to take it in to a lot of extent, Like

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<v Speaker 1>rewatching is really helping me to understand like what we

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<v Speaker 1>created did it in a different way, right, Like I

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<v Speaker 1>loved what we did. I was, you know, extremely committed

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<v Speaker 1>to what we were doing, right, And I love all

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<v Speaker 1>of our writers and all of our actors, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I've been die hard the whole time, right, But sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>when you're out in the world and people have like

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<v Speaker 1>such strong, strong feelings, I would be like, whoah, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>but now that I'm rewatching, first of all, each episode

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<v Speaker 1>is so good. Yeah, it's kind of crazy. And then

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<v Speaker 1>second of all, like I was traveling a bit and

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<v Speaker 1>I took time off from rewatching, and then I came

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<v Speaker 1>back and like the warmth that you feel when you

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<v Speaker 1>watch it is real, you know, Like even for me,

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<v Speaker 1>I got to kind of experience when people say like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>you're my comfort watch. Oh you're like my friends. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>like yeah, and obviously they are my friends, but still

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, oh, I'm home and I can watch my show.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it's oh my gosh, that's great.

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<v Speaker 1>Really fully get it before, because I think I was.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you're just trying to move forward to write

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<v Speaker 1>and not get too stuck in the commentary, right, because like,

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<v Speaker 1>wherever there's good commentary, there's also bad commentary. And I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't want to. I don't want to go to too

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<v Speaker 1>deep into it. But now I can really, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>thirty years later, I can really appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but there are other shows, I think, and I

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<v Speaker 2>think you've been on all of them. Friends, yeah, yes, Seinfeld. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>Sex and the City are series that you rewatch and

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<v Speaker 2>you cannot believe every episode You're like, wait a minute,

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<v Speaker 2>this this is the A, B and C story because

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<v Speaker 2>in my memory, yeah, each story is its own episode.

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<v Speaker 1>Like it it's true, it's true. That's some writing, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean some good writing. Like that's such really what

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<v Speaker 1>I come away with.

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<v Speaker 2>It's crazy this episode that we're talking really good. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>this is huge for me because I choose my choice.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, class, it's.

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<v Speaker 2>Like a major part of it's in my head. I

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<v Speaker 2>would say, I've said it either out loud or in

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<v Speaker 2>my head. Minimum once a month, usually every week, and

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<v Speaker 2>in different ways, in the way that Charlotte is saying defensively,

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<v Speaker 2>I choose my choice. And it can be that is

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<v Speaker 2>she convincing herself or is she convincing them? And it

0:12:23.280 --> 0:12:25.920
<v Speaker 2>can be armor like I choose my choice. It can

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<v Speaker 2>be validation like that just that sentence, I choose my choice.

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<v Speaker 2>I know it's good, Okay, No, I don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>go to Larry's birthday party. I don't have to go

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<v Speaker 2>to Larry's birthday party. And I choose my choice that

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<v Speaker 2>I need to stay home and cook that day. I

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<v Speaker 2>choose my choice. And so it's like a big I.

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<v Speaker 1>Had remembered that because I loved it, but I had

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<v Speaker 1>not remembered the bigger picture that it's in, which is

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<v Speaker 1>that the entire episode I'm struggling, you know, Charlotte is

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<v Speaker 1>struggling with the decision. And also basically all of them

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<v Speaker 1>are like no, like I had fully forgotten that, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying, Like I didn't really remember in

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<v Speaker 1>my mind. I remember a lot, but I don't always

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<v Speaker 1>remember it chronologically correctly, right, like I would have put

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<v Speaker 1>this later, you know, like in the fifth season or

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<v Speaker 1>something like I thought it had to do with Harry

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<v Speaker 1>or I don't know what I thought it had to

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<v Speaker 1>do with. I remember being I remember filming it, and

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<v Speaker 1>I remember being very nervous about it. Like there's some

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<v Speaker 1>things that stand out to me, because you know, Charlotte

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<v Speaker 1>is a very specific character, right, and she's not me,

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<v Speaker 1>even though I know it's very confusing and it seems

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<v Speaker 1>like it's me. I get it, obviously, you're an actress

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<v Speaker 1>who's played that character for a very long time, which

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<v Speaker 1>I want to talk about, so I'm sure you understand.

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<v Speaker 1>But so like she's a part of me, but she's

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<v Speaker 1>not really me, right, And so I live a very

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<v Speaker 1>different life that is not so concerned with traditions, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and for her, for Charlotte, because these are her friends,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, she might not have as much kind of

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<v Speaker 1>throaty defiance or whatever to them, do you do?

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 1>So, like my pitch is a little hot, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and especially in the first coffee shop scene where I'm

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<v Speaker 1>talking to them about it, and I'm like, I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>thinking that I'm gonna quit the job.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I've noticed that well, because I think and

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<v Speaker 2>there's the pediatric unit. It is your voice is higher.

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<v Speaker 1>Your voice is higher.

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<v Speaker 2>Usually the sign of insecurity or lying. And so the

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<v Speaker 2>question is are you you're you're outstanding in this? I

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<v Speaker 2>I You're so great, You're great in all of them.

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<v Speaker 2>But this really is like a I was so excited

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<v Speaker 2>when I got the email. Watch this and I'm like, what,

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<v Speaker 2>I choose my choice because it's such a great and

0:14:33.240 --> 0:14:38.680
<v Speaker 2>every storyline is great, but but it is these tropes

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<v Speaker 2>of Miranda not being able to relax and and so

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<v Speaker 2>much so that her neck goes out. She's shouting at you.

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<v Speaker 2>And what is the relationship with Aiden and Carrie, and

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<v Speaker 2>what does it mean to Charlotte to give up the gallery?

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<v Speaker 2>And and that that's the tradition before we get to

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<v Speaker 2>Harry later, which is now she chooses Judaism to be

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<v Speaker 2>with a man she loves, and it's those traditions right

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<v Speaker 2>that then become a big But there's Charlotte's not one dimensional.

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<v Speaker 2>There are moments where I can't remember what episode it is,

0:15:17.120 --> 0:15:23.040
<v Speaker 2>where Carrie is saying, you have Charlotte says something really profound,

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<v Speaker 2>and there's a Carrie voiceover of sometimes out of Charlotte's

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<v Speaker 2>mouth comes the thing that.

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<v Speaker 1>Is the wisdom and then and then you say, is

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<v Speaker 1>my hair too shiny today? That's first seasons, the first season. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that was one of my moments where I realized and

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<v Speaker 1>I knew in my I felt in my gut that

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<v Speaker 1>Charlotte had so much potential for growth and change, right,

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<v Speaker 1>but that little encapsulated, you know, couple it basically with

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<v Speaker 1>carrying the voiceover. That was it. I was like, that

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<v Speaker 1>is it? Thank God they get it, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. We can go, Oh, we can go from this,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. And it was so much fun because it's

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<v Speaker 1>always fun with Sir Jessica too, right, because we know

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<v Speaker 1>each other so well, And I love that so much

0:16:08.440 --> 0:16:11.640
<v Speaker 1>because it is you can make fun of her, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying, Like she is ripe for making

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<v Speaker 1>fun of but at the same time, she's not really wrong,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>And she's also earnest. Yes, Charlotte is so earnest that

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<v Speaker 2>you can't argue with her reasoning. I mean, you her

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<v Speaker 2>friends do, right, because they see marriage differently, individuality differently,

0:16:33.800 --> 0:16:36.520
<v Speaker 2>careers differently. But yeah, I got I'm glad it was

0:16:36.520 --> 0:16:41.040
<v Speaker 2>that early on because I also being on I've been

0:16:41.080 --> 0:16:43.720
<v Speaker 2>on this show criminal minds on. I was off for

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<v Speaker 2>four years, but I've been on it. Basically, we're shooting

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<v Speaker 2>season twenty wow in a month wow. But I don't

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<v Speaker 2>remember episodes the way fans do, right, so I remember

0:16:56.160 --> 0:17:00.680
<v Speaker 2>things about episodes that you were working. You were working gang, right,

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<v Speaker 2>there's no space in your brain because to make an

0:17:05.040 --> 0:17:09.800
<v Speaker 2>hour long show is five, you know, five to eight

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<v Speaker 2>fifteen hour days.

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<v Speaker 1>So right, oh, that's what we were doing too.

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<v Speaker 2>It was I, Oh, I heard, I heard the wardrobe

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<v Speaker 2>changes were, which I appreciate as a fan. I think

0:17:22.440 --> 0:17:26.640
<v Speaker 2>all of fashion appreciation the fact that but that's a

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<v Speaker 2>big turnaround scene by seeing you guys had to do

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<v Speaker 2>like major.

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<v Speaker 1>We did, right, It was like an hour show or

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<v Speaker 1>like a movie every two weeks because we'd shoot two

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<v Speaker 1>episodes at once. Do you guys do that or you're

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<v Speaker 1>just one? Okay?

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<v Speaker 2>Right?

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<v Speaker 1>We had to crossboard because of locations right in the city,

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<v Speaker 1>so we would have one director who'd be doing two.

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't that bad because like they were two consecutives,

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<v Speaker 1>so it wasn't that hard, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why it was more like shooting an hour, right,

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<v Speaker 1>because even though you did have like one storyline and

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<v Speaker 1>one and one storyline and the other they were they

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<v Speaker 1>did make sense together, right.

0:18:04.920 --> 0:18:07.480
<v Speaker 2>They were related. So it's not like you shot ten

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<v Speaker 2>episodes like block shot ten episodes.

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<v Speaker 1>No, No, that would be yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So you at least know where your character is. Yes, okay, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>that makes sense.

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<v Speaker 1>Also, they would have a plan every season, and Michael

0:18:33.880 --> 0:18:36.080
<v Speaker 1>Patrick would sit us down and tell us our plan,

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<v Speaker 1>our emotional arc, so that you knew kind of the

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<v Speaker 1>bigger picture, which was of course incredibly kind and wonderful.

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<v Speaker 1>And I didn't realize that all shows didn't do that.

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<v Speaker 2>All shows do not do that, right, our showrunner does that.

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<v Speaker 2>But that just started, you know, I don't know, five

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<v Speaker 2>six years ago. Interesting, Yeah, that is unusual, right.

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<v Speaker 1>And thank god it's so helpful as an actor because

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<v Speaker 1>then you know, if something is like of higher importance that, okay,

0:19:05.640 --> 0:19:07.800
<v Speaker 1>I need to dig deeper for this scene, even though

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just mentioning something. This is a deeper thing that

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<v Speaker 1>I desperately want, the character desperately wants, or if maybe

0:19:13.720 --> 0:19:15.640
<v Speaker 1>it's just a little minor thing, you know what I mean,

0:19:16.760 --> 0:19:18.840
<v Speaker 1>if you were just reading each script, you wouldn't know

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<v Speaker 1>because of course in our show. Also now we're into

0:19:22.000 --> 0:19:24.000
<v Speaker 1>the longer relationships. But in the beginning, they were all

0:19:24.080 --> 0:19:26.840
<v Speaker 1>these guys that were just coming through. And the only

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<v Speaker 1>time that I can remember that I had to reshoot

0:19:29.920 --> 0:19:33.239
<v Speaker 1>something was from the first season, very early on, like

0:19:33.240 --> 0:19:37.000
<v Speaker 1>maybe episode two or three, where it's so embarrassing this

0:19:37.040 --> 0:19:39.359
<v Speaker 1>guy wants is the I don't want to be the

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<v Speaker 1>missus up the butt scene? Yes, oh God help us.

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<v Speaker 1>And so to me, I'd been an acting class for

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<v Speaker 1>a decade, right or more before this, and you know

0:19:49.359 --> 0:19:51.760
<v Speaker 1>they all talk about steaks, right, like your stakes have

0:19:51.840 --> 0:19:55.160
<v Speaker 1>to be so tatake, right. Yeah, And for comedy that's

0:19:55.240 --> 0:19:58.240
<v Speaker 1>like strangely important, right, because how do you get that

0:19:58.359 --> 0:20:01.280
<v Speaker 1>level of behavior deep stakes?

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<v Speaker 2>Right?

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<v Speaker 1>So I was teary when I'm telling the guy, like

0:20:05.880 --> 0:20:09.240
<v Speaker 1>I what to do it? And Darren comes to me

0:20:09.280 --> 0:20:11.960
<v Speaker 1>and he's like, you don't care, and I'm like what,

0:20:12.080 --> 0:20:15.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't care? What what? And he goes, oh, there's

0:20:15.040 --> 0:20:17.960
<v Speaker 1>another guy around the corner, And I'm like, wait, what what?

0:20:20.080 --> 0:20:22.000
<v Speaker 1>Because first of all, as a person, I'm not really

0:20:22.040 --> 0:20:24.200
<v Speaker 1>like that. But second of all, I didn't think Charlotte

0:20:24.280 --> 0:20:26.520
<v Speaker 1>was like that, right, Like I thought Carrie and Samantha

0:20:26.560 --> 0:20:29.280
<v Speaker 1>were like super cool and there's another guy around the corner.

0:20:29.400 --> 0:20:31.919
<v Speaker 1>But I thought Charlotte was like deeply invested, and she

0:20:32.200 --> 0:20:35.000
<v Speaker 1>kind of was right. He was just trying to say

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<v Speaker 1>in his mind, he knew we were going to have

0:20:37.800 --> 0:20:40.560
<v Speaker 1>a guy a week, right, a guy an episode, So

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<v Speaker 1>we can't meet teery about everyone.

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<v Speaker 2>Right right, right? It's two high stakes.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, So I had to like back backpedal and reshoot

0:20:48.600 --> 0:20:50.280
<v Speaker 1>something where I was just like I don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>do it, turning mean.

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<v Speaker 2>Interesting, right, I get it. Wow, I didn't. That's thank

0:20:55.560 --> 0:20:57.520
<v Speaker 2>you for telling me that. That's like inside, I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>know that you reshot that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah, I remember reshooting anything else that I

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<v Speaker 1>that I can think of, and I remember being like,

0:21:04.320 --> 0:21:06.399
<v Speaker 1>you know, you're very thrown off as an actor when

0:21:06.440 --> 0:21:08.080
<v Speaker 1>you have to reshoot something. You're like, oh my god,

0:21:08.200 --> 0:21:10.639
<v Speaker 1>what did I do wrong? But then when he said it,

0:21:10.720 --> 0:21:13.080
<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh yeah, I was totally playing it

0:21:13.160 --> 0:21:15.680
<v Speaker 1>like this guy could be my husband. And then now

0:21:15.720 --> 0:21:17.280
<v Speaker 1>he's not going to because I don't want to do

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<v Speaker 1>what he once like. I was doing the high stakes

0:21:20.520 --> 0:21:22.400
<v Speaker 1>that I thought I was supposed to be doing.

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<v Speaker 4>You were doing what you were doing, what you were

0:21:25.520 --> 0:21:26.960
<v Speaker 4>trained to exactly.

0:21:27.200 --> 0:21:29.879
<v Speaker 2>It's in a lot with a longer form knowledge of

0:21:29.960 --> 0:21:33.639
<v Speaker 2>where Charlotte's journey was going, right, it would it would

0:21:33.800 --> 0:21:35.920
<v Speaker 2>appear manic, It.

0:21:35.840 --> 0:21:38.440
<v Speaker 1>Would appear desperate and manic.

0:21:38.400 --> 0:21:40.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, too desperate.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that would not work out every episode. And I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think it would be funny.

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<v Speaker 2>It might be too upsetting profoundly that you're crying. And

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<v Speaker 2>then when later on when you go to the dating

0:21:53.560 --> 0:21:57.080
<v Speaker 2>seminar with Carrie and Carry's like, no, she's out there,

0:21:57.320 --> 0:22:00.200
<v Speaker 2>you know, you know just this that you're really looking

0:22:00.359 --> 0:22:04.480
<v Speaker 2>for him. Yeah, but but it can't be that's a

0:22:04.520 --> 0:22:11.720
<v Speaker 2>really tough that's a really tough line to keep acting, Yeah, flawlessly,

0:22:11.800 --> 0:22:17.000
<v Speaker 2>which was she wants what she wants, she knows why

0:22:17.080 --> 0:22:20.640
<v Speaker 2>she's you know. And then when Trey comes along, it's

0:22:20.720 --> 0:22:23.919
<v Speaker 2>it's the night and shining, it's the answer to all

0:22:23.960 --> 0:22:26.840
<v Speaker 2>the and she's so invested in it, ready to go

0:22:26.920 --> 0:22:29.959
<v Speaker 2>and and it and it falls apart. But you can't

0:22:30.000 --> 0:22:33.399
<v Speaker 2>be so desperate that you're to be the other book, right,

0:22:33.560 --> 0:22:37.199
<v Speaker 2>that's the end of your romantic journey. But that's a

0:22:37.440 --> 0:22:41.679
<v Speaker 2>very very hard you think, and you executed it flawlessly.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it's funny to watch this one because, like for me,

0:22:46.600 --> 0:22:49.440
<v Speaker 1>I saw what I remember about the I choose my

0:22:49.560 --> 0:22:52.359
<v Speaker 1>choice as I remember being really nervous, but I didn't

0:22:52.359 --> 0:22:54.560
<v Speaker 1>really remember why because I'm on the phone, right, and

0:22:54.560 --> 0:22:56.240
<v Speaker 1>we would always make an effort to have the other

0:22:56.280 --> 0:22:58.560
<v Speaker 1>actor be be on the set so that you, oh

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<v Speaker 1>my god, really yeah, I know, I know, I never

0:23:00.880 --> 0:23:04.240
<v Speaker 1>get there, I know, right, I know it says such

0:23:04.280 --> 0:23:07.239
<v Speaker 1>a difference to journy, mean, like such a gens. I mean,

0:23:07.280 --> 0:23:10.639
<v Speaker 1>it wouldn't always work because we had crossboarded, right, So

0:23:10.840 --> 0:23:14.960
<v Speaker 1>occasionally we'd be double like our other two episodes would

0:23:15.000 --> 0:23:17.000
<v Speaker 1>go over and people would be off somewhere else, like

0:23:17.040 --> 0:23:19.840
<v Speaker 1>we'd have two units going. So sometimes we'd have our

0:23:19.880 --> 0:23:22.840
<v Speaker 1>scripture supervisor, but we knew them really well, right, so

0:23:23.040 --> 0:23:25.560
<v Speaker 1>that helped. But often we would if it was an

0:23:25.600 --> 0:23:27.520
<v Speaker 1>important phone call, we would have the other person on

0:23:27.520 --> 0:23:30.000
<v Speaker 1>the other side of the flat, you know, basically right.

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<v Speaker 2>So, so Cynthia was there.

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<v Speaker 1>I think, so yeah, I'd have to check with her,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think she was, which I think is good

0:23:35.800 --> 0:23:38.880
<v Speaker 1>because I had not remembered that. It was as much

0:23:38.880 --> 0:23:40.600
<v Speaker 1>of an argument as it was.

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<v Speaker 2>Why don't you ask your husband? I know it's so mean, right,

0:23:46.840 --> 0:23:49.160
<v Speaker 2>but if you had it but if it wasn't her,

0:23:49.440 --> 0:23:52.800
<v Speaker 2>you guys can't you guys can't have that moment without

0:23:52.880 --> 0:23:57.320
<v Speaker 2>hearing the other person's right vocal intonation.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, because it wasn't like a regular phone call, you

0:23:59.359 --> 0:23:59.840
<v Speaker 1>know what I mean.

0:24:00.080 --> 0:24:02.720
<v Speaker 2>Okay, so this helps me, This helps me recognize, Okay,

0:24:03.520 --> 0:24:06.240
<v Speaker 2>maybe I'm not dropping the ball in my acting. You

0:24:06.800 --> 0:24:09.080
<v Speaker 2>guys had a you know, because I could only hope

0:24:10.560 --> 0:24:12.439
<v Speaker 2>is it going to cut together? Because I don't know

0:24:12.480 --> 0:24:14.040
<v Speaker 2>how they would do it. We only get to hear

0:24:14.080 --> 0:24:15.240
<v Speaker 2>each other at a table read.

0:24:15.080 --> 0:24:18.960
<v Speaker 1>One right, right, It's hard. That's hard. Makes it harder, Yeah,

0:24:19.040 --> 0:24:21.680
<v Speaker 1>it makes it harder, I think too for us because

0:24:22.400 --> 0:24:27.760
<v Speaker 1>anytime any of the characters argued, it was always slightly scary,

0:24:28.000 --> 0:24:31.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, because we cared so much about the friendships working,

0:24:31.640 --> 0:24:34.600
<v Speaker 1>and that was a goal of ours and the show

0:24:34.640 --> 0:24:36.600
<v Speaker 1>in general, and you know, that was like our mission

0:24:36.640 --> 0:24:39.240
<v Speaker 1>in a lot of ways. But it's not really realistic

0:24:39.280 --> 0:24:40.560
<v Speaker 1>if you don't have arguments.

0:24:40.800 --> 0:24:44.240
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, there's just no depth to the relationship, right,

0:24:44.280 --> 0:24:47.160
<v Speaker 2>And so that is what actually I think solidified for

0:24:47.240 --> 0:24:51.040
<v Speaker 2>the audience that you guys were actual friends, is to

0:24:51.080 --> 0:24:54.720
<v Speaker 2>hold each other accountable for your behavior and your actions

0:24:54.720 --> 0:25:00.520
<v Speaker 2>and how you know, like Miranda saying to carry in

0:25:00.560 --> 0:25:04.960
<v Speaker 2>this you and your bullsh bagels, ooh, I know, just

0:25:05.040 --> 0:25:07.280
<v Speaker 2>to talk about Aiden, and it's you can see that

0:25:07.320 --> 0:25:09.920
<v Speaker 2>it's true. But even within that fight, do you want

0:25:09.920 --> 0:25:13.000
<v Speaker 2>to toasted? Yeah, I knew they're hysterical.

0:25:13.520 --> 0:25:16.240
<v Speaker 1>I'd totally forgotten about that too. I'd forgotten that this

0:25:16.440 --> 0:25:19.040
<v Speaker 1>was when the next thing happened. I'd forgotten Aiden goes

0:25:19.080 --> 0:25:21.199
<v Speaker 1>over there. I mean, this is a phase of the

0:25:21.200 --> 0:25:24.480
<v Speaker 1>show that I don't have solid memories of each one, right,

0:25:24.680 --> 0:25:28.160
<v Speaker 1>So I'm rewatching it going like, oh my god, wow, well.

0:25:27.960 --> 0:25:30.600
<v Speaker 2>How could you you lived it and you were shooting.

0:25:30.880 --> 0:25:33.280
<v Speaker 2>You could have been across town shooting something else. There's

0:25:33.280 --> 0:25:34.399
<v Speaker 2>no way for you.

0:25:34.600 --> 0:25:37.280
<v Speaker 1>To know that's true. But I do have a lot

0:25:37.320 --> 0:25:40.199
<v Speaker 1>of memories, right. But this is about the time that

0:25:40.280 --> 0:25:42.560
<v Speaker 1>they start to slip a bit. I think because it

0:25:42.600 --> 0:25:46.159
<v Speaker 1>got overwhelming, right, because of the success. It became that

0:25:46.680 --> 0:25:50.400
<v Speaker 1>like greater thing where we're going around to different places, countries,

0:25:50.440 --> 0:25:53.320
<v Speaker 1>photo shoots, award shows, blah blah blah. It was great,

0:25:53.400 --> 0:25:56.080
<v Speaker 1>it was really fun, but it just became this kind

0:25:56.119 --> 0:25:57.879
<v Speaker 1>of like no sleep situation.

0:25:58.200 --> 0:25:59.320
<v Speaker 2>You know, it's a lot.

0:25:59.520 --> 0:26:01.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was a lot, but It's fun to watch

0:26:01.680 --> 0:26:04.400
<v Speaker 1>because I don't remember all of it and I think

0:26:04.480 --> 0:26:08.560
<v Speaker 1>everyone is so good, and I'm also not really sure

0:26:08.560 --> 0:26:12.840
<v Speaker 1>what's happening. Like even with the Carrie Aiden situation, I

0:26:12.840 --> 0:26:14.000
<v Speaker 1>don't remember this at all.

0:26:14.280 --> 0:26:18.040
<v Speaker 2>Okay, really you don't remember the Big on the Answering Machine.

0:26:17.840 --> 0:26:22.720
<v Speaker 1>No, and he's just so ick. Okay, I'm sorry that

0:26:22.720 --> 0:26:26.200
<v Speaker 1>that phone call. I'm like, right, Like when Aiden says

0:26:26.240 --> 0:26:28.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't want him calling Hair, I'm like, I don't

0:26:28.040 --> 0:26:29.000
<v Speaker 1>want him calling Hair.

0:26:29.200 --> 0:26:34.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well but it's he ends the message with call

0:26:34.040 --> 0:26:34.520
<v Speaker 2>me baby.

0:26:35.160 --> 0:26:40.000
<v Speaker 1>Baby's very proprietary, I know, Like, no wonder Aiden's upset.

0:26:40.200 --> 0:26:43.679
<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh, Oh my gosh. When Aiden says I

0:26:43.680 --> 0:26:44.959
<v Speaker 1>don't want you to see him and she's like, well,

0:26:44.960 --> 0:26:46.880
<v Speaker 1>I can't do that, I'm like, no, Carrie, you need

0:26:46.920 --> 0:26:49.960
<v Speaker 1>to say you won't. But obviously.

0:26:51.640 --> 0:26:54.159
<v Speaker 2>I know. But even knowing, But here's what's crazy is

0:26:54.200 --> 0:26:59.400
<v Speaker 2>the episodes immediately after that are up in the country

0:26:59.480 --> 0:27:03.679
<v Speaker 2>in so right, and then he and b Big shows

0:27:03.760 --> 0:27:04.280
<v Speaker 2>up in the.

0:27:05.080 --> 0:27:07.640
<v Speaker 1>Which is great, she can reach me but I.

0:27:07.560 --> 0:27:09.919
<v Speaker 2>Can never reach out right, But then they end up

0:27:09.960 --> 0:27:12.520
<v Speaker 2>with this like what is it Green Arrow Spider Man fight.

0:27:12.520 --> 0:27:15.320
<v Speaker 1>Something so crazy where it Carrie's like, I don't know

0:27:15.320 --> 0:27:15.840
<v Speaker 1>who that is.

0:27:16.160 --> 0:27:19.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and then they get along. It's such, it's it's

0:27:21.359 --> 0:27:25.359
<v Speaker 2>it's great writing. Yeah, it feel you do have to

0:27:25.560 --> 0:27:30.720
<v Speaker 2>accept like a suspension of yeah, disbelief. That's a suspension

0:27:30.720 --> 0:27:34.920
<v Speaker 2>of belief that that these two this soon could gel

0:27:35.040 --> 0:27:38.480
<v Speaker 2>as men understanding each other while she's in the room,

0:27:38.560 --> 0:27:40.840
<v Speaker 2>after everything that's happened. It's true.

0:27:40.840 --> 0:27:42.920
<v Speaker 1>And you're not the first person to tell me that,

0:27:43.119 --> 0:27:44.960
<v Speaker 1>And I do kind of see your point. But the

0:27:45.000 --> 0:27:47.480
<v Speaker 1>thing that I thought, and I of course I know

0:27:47.560 --> 0:27:50.560
<v Speaker 1>everyone involved, so it is so hard to be objective, right,

0:27:50.840 --> 0:27:53.560
<v Speaker 1>But the thing that I thought, and I'm not a man,

0:27:53.800 --> 0:27:56.640
<v Speaker 1>I could be so wrong, right, But like men have,

0:27:56.840 --> 0:27:59.280
<v Speaker 1>you know, these complicated things they have to do in

0:27:59.320 --> 0:28:01.520
<v Speaker 1>life where their have to be like super macho and

0:28:01.600 --> 0:28:03.919
<v Speaker 1>clan their territory and whatever or they think they have

0:28:04.000 --> 0:28:07.360
<v Speaker 1>to or whatever. But then I felt that they had

0:28:07.400 --> 0:28:10.479
<v Speaker 1>this slow burn going on, like as you very clearly

0:28:10.520 --> 0:28:13.680
<v Speaker 1>see in this scene right where you know, big calls

0:28:14.000 --> 0:28:16.119
<v Speaker 1>in what I think is just such a jerk, a

0:28:16.200 --> 0:28:19.520
<v Speaker 1>jerk move, right, Like this phone call message is like thick, right,

0:28:19.960 --> 0:28:22.680
<v Speaker 1>and of course it's meant to do exactly what it does.

0:28:22.720 --> 0:28:26.240
<v Speaker 1>Which is you know that's mine, right, and then Aiden's

0:28:26.280 --> 0:28:29.240
<v Speaker 1>there in like the worst situation, and then they can't

0:28:29.240 --> 0:28:31.400
<v Speaker 1>talk about it, et cetera. So of course Aiden has

0:28:31.480 --> 0:28:33.879
<v Speaker 1>like a it's just going to fan that flame of

0:28:33.960 --> 0:28:37.800
<v Speaker 1>him being upset about the previous you know, cheating obviously.

0:28:38.400 --> 0:28:40.760
<v Speaker 1>And so in my mind, when I watch the fight

0:28:40.840 --> 0:28:44.280
<v Speaker 1>that eventually happens in the country, it's because they actually

0:28:44.320 --> 0:28:47.320
<v Speaker 1>get to fight, because how rare is that in life

0:28:47.320 --> 0:28:50.960
<v Speaker 1>that you actually get to fight it out? Right, Like

0:28:51.040 --> 0:28:53.720
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't happen that often, thank god, right, thank god.

0:28:53.840 --> 0:28:57.400
<v Speaker 1>Fighting is never good. But because they fight, it kind

0:28:57.400 --> 0:29:00.680
<v Speaker 1>of like it's a Catharsis for those guys, yes, and

0:29:00.720 --> 0:29:02.760
<v Speaker 1>then they could just sit there and chat, you know.

0:29:02.840 --> 0:29:05.280
<v Speaker 1>I mean I kind of I kind of bought it,

0:29:05.520 --> 0:29:06.120
<v Speaker 1>but that's the way.

0:29:06.320 --> 0:29:10.680
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. Yeah, no, I'm I it's it's a series,

0:29:10.720 --> 0:29:14.400
<v Speaker 2>it's a it's a it's stories. But it makes sense

0:29:14.480 --> 0:29:17.520
<v Speaker 2>to me, And I think that's why it's so enduring,

0:29:17.800 --> 0:29:21.360
<v Speaker 2>is that, yeah, they fight it out and then the

0:29:21.440 --> 0:29:22.800
<v Speaker 2>steam is let out of.

0:29:22.720 --> 0:29:27.120
<v Speaker 1>The right and you can see them as another person, right,

0:29:27.200 --> 0:29:30.680
<v Speaker 1>Like that's another sassion. And because Big is so all

0:29:30.760 --> 0:29:33.720
<v Speaker 1>messed up about this actress. You know, aiden can kind

0:29:33.720 --> 0:29:35.800
<v Speaker 1>of see oh he's a mess too, right, Like.

0:29:35.880 --> 0:29:39.719
<v Speaker 2>Hayden's got the girl, right, and this guy's a mess, right,

0:29:39.840 --> 0:29:43.360
<v Speaker 2>so he can look at like, ugh what okay? Right?

0:29:43.640 --> 0:29:45.520
<v Speaker 1>And I had not really remembered any of this, so

0:29:45.600 --> 0:29:47.960
<v Speaker 1>it's really interesting to me how they're gonna get it

0:29:48.000 --> 0:29:50.160
<v Speaker 1>all back together. But I guess we'll find out. But

0:29:50.240 --> 0:29:52.320
<v Speaker 1>let's talk about this episode. Okay. So first of all,

0:29:52.360 --> 0:29:55.320
<v Speaker 1>one thing too you're talking about you said something about

0:29:55.320 --> 0:29:58.160
<v Speaker 1>traditions the thing that made me laugh too, And this

0:29:58.280 --> 0:30:01.560
<v Speaker 1>is a minor storyline obviously, but Samantha storyline about the

0:30:01.600 --> 0:30:04.960
<v Speaker 1>puby care, Oh yeah, I mean it's so foreshadowing, right,

0:30:05.040 --> 0:30:09.360
<v Speaker 1>Like now I think all young men trim and right,

0:30:09.760 --> 0:30:12.800
<v Speaker 1>which is great, of course, But it's funny that in

0:30:12.880 --> 0:30:16.160
<v Speaker 1>this episode, you know, this guy's like, oh wow, and

0:30:16.200 --> 0:30:18.280
<v Speaker 1>look look at I'm not going to say his words,

0:30:18.280 --> 0:30:20.959
<v Speaker 1>but you know, he's he's pleased with the outcome, but

0:30:21.000 --> 0:30:24.360
<v Speaker 1>it's turning things upside down in the traditions of it

0:30:24.400 --> 0:30:27.840
<v Speaker 1>all because it was and I guess I don't know

0:30:27.880 --> 0:30:29.680
<v Speaker 1>if it still is, Like I don't know what the

0:30:29.720 --> 0:30:33.120
<v Speaker 1>young ladies are doing down there either, right, I don't know,

0:30:33.160 --> 0:30:35.240
<v Speaker 1>because there was a while where maybe it was supposed

0:30:35.280 --> 0:30:38.040
<v Speaker 1>to be more natural, but then maybe maybe maybe not.

0:30:38.240 --> 0:30:40.080
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I don't know. I feel like there

0:30:40.160 --> 0:30:42.480
<v Speaker 2>was a time when someone was talking about how like

0:30:42.760 --> 0:30:47.440
<v Speaker 2>seventies bushes back right. I didn't subscribe to that personally,

0:30:48.320 --> 0:30:52.200
<v Speaker 2>no groom. But I'm not a laser. I don't know.

0:30:52.240 --> 0:30:53.400
<v Speaker 2>Some people are.

0:30:53.120 --> 0:30:56.840
<v Speaker 1>Just no, no, it's all and I uncomfortable. I don't

0:30:57.040 --> 0:30:59.560
<v Speaker 1>like it. Yeah, I mean I lived through all this

0:30:59.720 --> 0:31:03.200
<v Speaker 1>with with the show, right, and so we went through

0:31:03.240 --> 0:31:06.680
<v Speaker 1>every phase. We went through every phase together basically because

0:31:06.720 --> 0:31:09.240
<v Speaker 1>all of us, the writers and actors, were living through

0:31:09.600 --> 0:31:13.000
<v Speaker 1>the changes. And I remember when Gwyneth Paltrow did like

0:31:13.080 --> 0:31:16.880
<v Speaker 1>the Vogue or something and discussed those sisters, the Brazilian

0:31:16.920 --> 0:31:19.680
<v Speaker 1>sisters who would and said it was life changing. And

0:31:19.720 --> 0:31:23.000
<v Speaker 1>I was like, wait, what is happening? Oh my god?

0:31:23.400 --> 0:31:24.880
<v Speaker 1>And then you were like, Okay, I guess I gotta

0:31:24.920 --> 0:31:26.680
<v Speaker 1>try it. I don't know this like the pressure, like

0:31:26.720 --> 0:31:28.479
<v Speaker 1>the like the peer pressure to do it.

0:31:28.520 --> 0:31:29.720
<v Speaker 2>Did you do what Brazilian?

0:31:29.920 --> 0:31:32.080
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I tried not to, but then that they

0:31:32.160 --> 0:31:34.200
<v Speaker 1>just wanted to do what they wanted to do, do

0:31:34.200 --> 0:31:36.240
<v Speaker 1>do what I mean? Right? And then I was like, well,

0:31:36.280 --> 0:31:41.800
<v Speaker 1>this is horrible, horrible, Oh I feel uncomfortable. I did

0:31:41.880 --> 0:31:44.440
<v Speaker 1>not I did not dig it. I have to not

0:31:44.520 --> 0:31:47.160
<v Speaker 1>go back sensitive skin. I did not go back, and

0:31:47.160 --> 0:31:50.520
<v Speaker 1>in fact, it like scarred me for mentally forever going

0:31:50.560 --> 0:31:54.880
<v Speaker 1>to those people in general, Like my skin is just

0:31:55.000 --> 0:31:59.080
<v Speaker 1>not suited for that kind of harsh like e. I

0:31:59.080 --> 0:32:00.960
<v Speaker 1>have a fourteen year old her and she's like, wait,

0:32:01.320 --> 0:32:04.640
<v Speaker 1>they do what they what happens? And I'm like, you

0:32:04.680 --> 0:32:06.520
<v Speaker 1>don't mean to know, okay.

0:32:06.280 --> 0:32:08.560
<v Speaker 2>It's got to be inconceivable to children.

0:32:08.280 --> 0:32:11.640
<v Speaker 1>Right, They're very confused, like they take the thing and

0:32:11.640 --> 0:32:13.480
<v Speaker 1>then they pull it on like yes, and she's like

0:32:13.480 --> 0:32:16.600
<v Speaker 1>does it I'm like beyond okay, it's not like hurt.

0:32:16.680 --> 0:32:18.520
<v Speaker 1>It's like, ah, yeah yeah.

0:32:18.600 --> 0:32:21.840
<v Speaker 2>I did a home wax. Once I got that, I.

0:32:21.800 --> 0:32:25.719
<v Speaker 4>Think nare oh yeah yeah, used to make a wax strip,

0:32:26.000 --> 0:32:28.080
<v Speaker 4>not just like it was hair removal, right, So it

0:32:28.160 --> 0:32:29.960
<v Speaker 4>was like I think there was a cream that like

0:32:30.040 --> 0:32:32.600
<v Speaker 4>immediately gave you like a horrible rash.

0:32:32.880 --> 0:32:36.960
<v Speaker 1>Tried to hold that at home. Yes, it's like awful.

0:32:36.920 --> 0:32:41.000
<v Speaker 2>Abuse in a sanitarium, right, But then there came out

0:32:41.040 --> 0:32:44.040
<v Speaker 2>with wax and it was like pieces of paper and

0:32:44.080 --> 0:32:46.760
<v Speaker 2>you stuck together with a wax, and you warmed it

0:32:46.840 --> 0:32:49.040
<v Speaker 2>up with your hand and you put it on and

0:32:49.080 --> 0:32:51.239
<v Speaker 2>you waited until it cooled a little bit, and then

0:32:51.280 --> 0:32:56.760
<v Speaker 2>you ripped it yourself and in patches. But what was

0:32:57.000 --> 0:33:02.480
<v Speaker 2>uniform was bruising. I was completely bruised.

0:33:02.560 --> 0:33:16.880
<v Speaker 1>Horrible. Do you remember the blue stuff? There was some

0:33:16.920 --> 0:33:20.560
<v Speaker 1>blue stuff like blue wax, and I bought it and

0:33:20.720 --> 0:33:23.560
<v Speaker 1>took it home, and like my kitchen just never recovered.

0:33:23.560 --> 0:33:25.920
<v Speaker 1>There was just blue strings everywhere.

0:33:26.920 --> 0:33:28.800
<v Speaker 2>Remember this, did you have to heat it up?

0:33:28.920 --> 0:33:32.520
<v Speaker 1>The heated and then like somehow not burn yourself. But

0:33:32.560 --> 0:33:34.720
<v Speaker 1>also anytime you would take it, it would just be

0:33:35.480 --> 0:33:37.840
<v Speaker 1>what a nightmare, the things we go through. So I

0:33:37.880 --> 0:33:41.120
<v Speaker 1>love that storyline, even though it is the lesser storyline,

0:33:41.160 --> 0:33:44.000
<v Speaker 1>it's such a good storyline. And also she meets him

0:33:44.040 --> 0:33:47.680
<v Speaker 1>by like getting in his cat and I would never

0:33:47.720 --> 0:33:49.200
<v Speaker 1>do that. I would never do that. I would not

0:33:49.240 --> 0:33:51.479
<v Speaker 1>recommend that. But of course she's Samantha and she can

0:33:51.520 --> 0:33:55.080
<v Speaker 1>do anything. But that was pretty funny. But the Miranda

0:33:55.120 --> 0:33:58.160
<v Speaker 1>storyline also like, and this reminds me of like, you know,

0:33:58.200 --> 0:34:00.000
<v Speaker 1>when when she thinks she's gonna die in the cast

0:34:00.080 --> 0:34:02.440
<v Speaker 1>to eat her face and when she eats the cake.

0:34:02.760 --> 0:34:06.400
<v Speaker 1>Like there are these really really incredibly sweet Miranda storylines

0:34:06.400 --> 0:34:08.319
<v Speaker 1>where I'm just like, oh my god, I love her

0:34:08.400 --> 0:34:10.920
<v Speaker 1>so much, you love her so much, And it's also

0:34:11.040 --> 0:34:13.920
<v Speaker 1>like it's sad, like her neck goes out, but also

0:34:14.920 --> 0:34:18.360
<v Speaker 1>it's interesting to me that Carrie actually has an actual meeting,

0:34:18.640 --> 0:34:23.239
<v Speaker 1>but for some reason never tells Miranda that she has

0:34:23.360 --> 0:34:24.200
<v Speaker 1>this work meeting.

0:34:24.360 --> 0:34:27.400
<v Speaker 2>No, she started to say it, and Miranda says.

0:34:27.239 --> 0:34:32.320
<v Speaker 1>Thanks bye, and the bars because like Miranda would understand

0:34:32.360 --> 0:34:35.160
<v Speaker 1>that because we're talking about work in the whole episode, right,

0:34:35.160 --> 0:34:37.200
<v Speaker 1>but she never hears this, and for me, because.

0:34:36.920 --> 0:34:38.240
<v Speaker 2>She's in so much pain.

0:34:38.520 --> 0:34:40.880
<v Speaker 1>And then she drops the phone.

0:34:41.200 --> 0:34:43.400
<v Speaker 2>As Carrie is trying to say, but I have a

0:34:43.440 --> 0:34:45.560
<v Speaker 2>meeting with my Miranda goes.

0:34:45.840 --> 0:34:47.440
<v Speaker 1>Thanks, bye and bye.

0:34:48.680 --> 0:34:50.920
<v Speaker 2>And then she just gets progressively worse. But that is

0:34:50.960 --> 0:34:54.719
<v Speaker 2>like exactly what you're saying, where her vocal intonations the

0:34:54.760 --> 0:34:57.640
<v Speaker 2>whole time she's on the ground don't come in, and

0:34:57.880 --> 0:35:04.960
<v Speaker 2>how like she's so vulnerable and desperate and hurt and yeah, yes,

0:35:05.719 --> 0:35:10.879
<v Speaker 2>when her defenses are down, you know they're down. He's

0:35:10.880 --> 0:35:12.000
<v Speaker 2>desperate and just.

0:35:11.960 --> 0:35:14.719
<v Speaker 1>Like super strong and then not extra.

0:35:14.680 --> 0:35:18.759
<v Speaker 2>Right, yeah, in desperate need of help, and Aiden is

0:35:18.800 --> 0:35:21.359
<v Speaker 2>the perfect guy to go. I do get that, I know.

0:35:21.640 --> 0:35:24.120
<v Speaker 1>And then he wraps her and she holds the rug

0:35:24.160 --> 0:35:26.440
<v Speaker 1>to cover herself. Yeah, and he says, snug is a

0:35:26.480 --> 0:35:27.360
<v Speaker 1>bugget a rug.

0:35:29.719 --> 0:35:32.880
<v Speaker 2>He walks in, he has the towel and he's like, oh,

0:35:33.120 --> 0:35:35.600
<v Speaker 2>smells good. That's that downy fresh stuff or something. He's

0:35:35.640 --> 0:35:38.280
<v Speaker 2>talking about the fabric softener and he puts the towel

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<v Speaker 2>on time. I looked up who the director was. I've

0:35:40.880 --> 0:35:44.480
<v Speaker 2>never worked with this person again watching this Michael Angler. Yeah,

0:35:44.480 --> 0:35:48.200
<v Speaker 2>he does downt Nabby and I think Gilded Age also

0:35:48.280 --> 0:35:52.200
<v Speaker 2>with Cynthia next time. I'm guessing yes, they probably. Every

0:35:52.640 --> 0:35:58.400
<v Speaker 2>single moment serves a purpose. Nothing is lost, nothing is extra,

0:35:58.640 --> 0:36:04.880
<v Speaker 2>everything is moving the story forward and offering information and insight.

0:36:05.000 --> 0:36:08.040
<v Speaker 2>Like right, it's an incredibly good episode.

0:36:08.120 --> 0:36:10.200
<v Speaker 1>Yes, And we should say that it is written by

0:36:10.400 --> 0:36:13.399
<v Speaker 1>Jessica Bendinger, who is someone that I don't know which

0:36:13.480 --> 0:36:15.360
<v Speaker 1>every time we have one by her, I'm like, we

0:36:15.480 --> 0:36:17.920
<v Speaker 1>must find this woman. She was not one of our

0:36:17.960 --> 0:36:20.160
<v Speaker 1>writers who was with us all the time, which which

0:36:20.239 --> 0:36:23.200
<v Speaker 1>most of them were right, right, So it's really interesting.

0:36:23.239 --> 0:36:25.520
<v Speaker 1>I think this is maybe the third or fourth that

0:36:25.560 --> 0:36:28.440
<v Speaker 1>we've had from her, even from the very beginning. But

0:36:28.480 --> 0:36:31.280
<v Speaker 1>I think she was here in LA and sending scripts,

0:36:31.280 --> 0:36:34.759
<v Speaker 1>which is not our norm Our normal was you were

0:36:34.800 --> 0:36:36.479
<v Speaker 1>in New York, you were in the room with us,

0:36:36.680 --> 0:36:38.520
<v Speaker 1>not even in the room like on the set, you

0:36:38.520 --> 0:36:41.080
<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying. Wherever we were on the set

0:36:41.120 --> 0:36:44.040
<v Speaker 1>present if we wanted to discuss something, they were they

0:36:44.080 --> 0:36:46.840
<v Speaker 1>were like talk to us, you know, which was so incredible,

0:36:46.920 --> 0:36:50.720
<v Speaker 1>right as you know, normally they're just off some somewhere

0:36:50.760 --> 0:36:52.960
<v Speaker 1>in the writer's room or whatever. But I don't know her,

0:36:53.000 --> 0:36:55.160
<v Speaker 1>but this is a really really solid, solid episode in

0:36:55.200 --> 0:36:59.319
<v Speaker 1>every single way. And I think Corbett is so incredibly good.

0:36:59.360 --> 0:37:02.560
<v Speaker 1>I had totally forgotten about this bartender girl. Who is she?

0:37:02.920 --> 0:37:07.960
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god? I was like, that is upsetting, Okay,

0:37:08.160 --> 0:37:12.000
<v Speaker 1>this sometimes I really still have very I have very

0:37:12.320 --> 0:37:18.359
<v Speaker 1>Her name is Gretchen Cleveley. She plays Pia. Interesting. She's

0:37:18.480 --> 0:37:22.239
<v Speaker 1>very good because she's like very in it with Corbett,

0:37:22.239 --> 0:37:24.080
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, Like like the second you

0:37:24.120 --> 0:37:28.399
<v Speaker 1>see them, they're very lucked in in their scenes with corbettosies.

0:37:28.680 --> 0:37:31.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and they're playing Jackson. Yes, Carrie has to introduce her.

0:37:31.960 --> 0:37:36.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, it's super lame, right, Like she's teaching you

0:37:36.080 --> 0:37:39.960
<v Speaker 1>to play jacks, Like, really, Aiden, you don't know how

0:37:40.040 --> 0:37:44.160
<v Speaker 1>to play jacks. That's super interesting. Okay, Like every element

0:37:44.360 --> 0:37:46.360
<v Speaker 1>of it I think is so perfect. And I was

0:37:46.400 --> 0:37:48.839
<v Speaker 1>so impressed with Carrie in the first scene in her

0:37:48.880 --> 0:37:50.880
<v Speaker 1>super cute part of skirt, this like down low on

0:37:50.920 --> 0:37:53.480
<v Speaker 1>her stomach of the outfit we see the first I

0:37:53.520 --> 0:37:56.600
<v Speaker 1>think this is the first time we're seeing the fanny pack.

0:37:56.719 --> 0:37:59.120
<v Speaker 1>And it's very present, very present in this episode and

0:37:59.280 --> 0:38:04.280
<v Speaker 1>looks fantastic. I understand the whole trend, but she's very

0:38:04.400 --> 0:38:06.479
<v Speaker 1>I think she plays it very cool in that first

0:38:06.480 --> 0:38:08.959
<v Speaker 1>scene with with them, Like I would have been much

0:38:09.000 --> 0:38:11.080
<v Speaker 1>more like what the like right away?

0:38:11.480 --> 0:38:13.359
<v Speaker 2>You know. I kind of feel like she does a

0:38:13.400 --> 0:38:16.399
<v Speaker 2>little bit in that very sort of Carrie presentational way.

0:38:16.440 --> 0:38:19.080
<v Speaker 2>She's like, so at night with the guys, huh and

0:38:19.239 --> 0:38:21.160
<v Speaker 2>oh yeah, the guys blew me off, and she's and

0:38:21.520 --> 0:38:25.760
<v Speaker 2>she's like, oh so Steve, oh and uh where is Steve?

0:38:26.040 --> 0:38:28.520
<v Speaker 1>I know, I know, But the fact that she even

0:38:28.880 --> 0:38:31.400
<v Speaker 1>right she she has like some sense of humor about it.

0:38:31.480 --> 0:38:34.960
<v Speaker 2>She's holding on she's holding her anger, yeah, because I

0:38:34.960 --> 0:38:41.719
<v Speaker 2>think she recognizes he's leaking revenge. He can't stop himself.

0:38:41.800 --> 0:38:43.799
<v Speaker 1>It's super passive aggressive.

0:38:43.520 --> 0:38:47.600
<v Speaker 2>Pushing buttons to see what she'll take.

0:38:47.880 --> 0:38:51.919
<v Speaker 1>It's messed up. It's messed up, but it's understandable. It's

0:38:52.040 --> 0:38:54.719
<v Speaker 1>very understandable. But it would be so much better if

0:38:54.760 --> 0:38:55.880
<v Speaker 1>they could just talk about it.

0:38:57.120 --> 0:39:00.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but whatever, Maybe you're a fifty they would have.

0:39:00.920 --> 0:39:03.200
<v Speaker 1>I know, well, probably they would have, because we did.

0:39:03.320 --> 0:39:05.200
<v Speaker 1>We did talk a lot more and just like that.

0:39:05.239 --> 0:39:07.839
<v Speaker 1>But I don't think people necessarily always liked it. But

0:39:07.880 --> 0:39:08.640
<v Speaker 1>that's okay.

0:39:09.040 --> 0:39:11.759
<v Speaker 2>I did, and I was mortified that it didn't get

0:39:11.760 --> 0:39:15.160
<v Speaker 2>picked up. I was so confused. My husband and I

0:39:15.280 --> 0:39:18.600
<v Speaker 2>both were like, who made that decision? That doesn't make

0:39:18.640 --> 0:39:19.320
<v Speaker 2>any sad.

0:39:19.760 --> 0:39:24.080
<v Speaker 1>Well, I don't think it makes any sense either. All

0:39:24.120 --> 0:39:27.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna say but thank you for caring, thank you

0:39:27.560 --> 0:39:29.680
<v Speaker 1>for carrying. I appreciate that so much.

0:39:29.719 --> 0:39:31.439
<v Speaker 2>I still have hope. We'll see, we'll see.

0:39:31.560 --> 0:39:34.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't think we're done. I don't think we're.

0:39:34.320 --> 0:39:36.960
<v Speaker 2>You can't be done, you can't get done. I'm on

0:39:37.000 --> 0:39:39.960
<v Speaker 2>a show that's been canceled. I was fired and then

0:39:40.040 --> 0:39:40.560
<v Speaker 2>brought back.

0:39:40.800 --> 0:39:43.280
<v Speaker 1>I mean, yeah, can we talk about that for a minute. Oh,

0:39:43.360 --> 0:39:50.440
<v Speaker 1>because wow, why what on earth happened when I got fired? Yeah?

0:39:51.000 --> 0:39:55.760
<v Speaker 2>It was I think it was season six or seven

0:39:55.880 --> 0:39:59.480
<v Speaker 2>or something, okay, and we did a put pilot. This

0:39:59.560 --> 0:40:02.360
<v Speaker 2>is if you if listeners don't know, this is a

0:40:02.360 --> 0:40:05.520
<v Speaker 2>show called Criminalizing was on CBS for fifteen minutes.

0:40:06.200 --> 0:40:07.920
<v Speaker 1>A bunch of profilers show.

0:40:07.880 --> 0:40:12.120
<v Speaker 5>Fbis it's big internationally show, but we're we're the show

0:40:12.200 --> 0:40:15.319
<v Speaker 5>is owned by so many companies that no one will

0:40:15.320 --> 0:40:17.759
<v Speaker 5>put any money into it because they don't all get

0:40:17.800 --> 0:40:18.440
<v Speaker 5>all the money back.

0:40:18.520 --> 0:40:20.879
<v Speaker 2>It's fine. It's why we're still alive. It's why we're

0:40:20.880 --> 0:40:24.600
<v Speaker 2>still shooting in LA. We have our crew, everyone sat guy.

0:40:24.840 --> 0:40:28.319
<v Speaker 2>We're just like an under the radar sci show that's

0:40:28.400 --> 0:40:32.040
<v Speaker 2>that does really well all over the world. So in

0:40:32.120 --> 0:40:34.759
<v Speaker 2>season six or seven, we did a what's I guess

0:40:34.760 --> 0:40:37.200
<v Speaker 2>it's called a put pilot, I'm not sure or an

0:40:37.239 --> 0:40:38.200
<v Speaker 2>embedded pilot.

0:40:38.360 --> 0:40:38.640
<v Speaker 1>Okay.

0:40:38.680 --> 0:40:42.680
<v Speaker 2>So it took this group of FBI profilers that's always

0:40:42.719 --> 0:40:46.200
<v Speaker 2>on every Wednesday at nine o'clock on CBS, and they

0:40:46.320 --> 0:40:50.800
<v Speaker 2>were building a spin off pilot inside of an episode

0:40:50.800 --> 0:40:55.239
<v Speaker 2>of our show Wow with Oh now I don't know, now,

0:40:55.239 --> 0:40:58.239
<v Speaker 2>I don't know everyone's name, Okay. Forrest Whitaker was like

0:40:58.280 --> 0:41:01.239
<v Speaker 2>the big guy. It was say go on, yeah, ok

0:41:01.360 --> 0:41:07.759
<v Speaker 2>and so people you know, but we shot in San Francisco.

0:41:07.880 --> 0:41:12.200
<v Speaker 2>We had never left LA. We shoot all over LA

0:41:12.360 --> 0:41:15.799
<v Speaker 2>and Long Beach and Fraser Park and Land Cat you

0:41:15.800 --> 0:41:20.000
<v Speaker 2>know whatever, but we'd never gone to another part of

0:41:20.080 --> 0:41:24.239
<v Speaker 2>the state. Right, So this pilot inside our episode was

0:41:24.280 --> 0:41:26.960
<v Speaker 2>shot in San Francisco. And apparently this is what I

0:41:27.000 --> 0:41:33.880
<v Speaker 2>heard when Les Moonvez, who is famously ousted president of CBS,

0:41:34.400 --> 0:41:38.239
<v Speaker 2>when he got the pilot inside of our episode, he

0:41:38.360 --> 0:41:40.160
<v Speaker 2>it was the first time he'd watched the show because

0:41:40.200 --> 0:41:43.600
<v Speaker 2>the show just performed. It was never going it's never

0:41:43.640 --> 0:41:46.200
<v Speaker 2>going to be nominated for an award. It's never going

0:41:46.280 --> 0:41:48.640
<v Speaker 2>to be We're never going to shoot in Paris like

0:41:48.719 --> 0:41:54.480
<v Speaker 2>it's very solid exactly. So we think he saw the

0:41:54.520 --> 0:41:58.040
<v Speaker 2>show for the first time in years and just said, oh,

0:41:58.280 --> 0:42:01.279
<v Speaker 2>I don't like those women. Get rid of and so

0:42:01.960 --> 0:42:07.640
<v Speaker 2>Aj Cook and I were fire her for and my

0:42:07.880 --> 0:42:10.319
<v Speaker 2>agent went in and had a big fight with them

0:42:10.360 --> 0:42:13.640
<v Speaker 2>and kept me. Aj was out. They kept me for

0:42:13.840 --> 0:42:19.680
<v Speaker 2>fifteen episodes or something while I trained on the show.

0:42:20.080 --> 0:42:25.759
<v Speaker 2>My character trains the character who took AJ's part. Oh,

0:42:26.239 --> 0:42:30.560
<v Speaker 2>and they looked so similar that people ran photos of

0:42:30.640 --> 0:42:34.040
<v Speaker 2>this new actress saying it was Aj. For six or

0:42:34.080 --> 0:42:40.000
<v Speaker 2>seven years after the replacement, and she's fine, she's great,

0:42:40.080 --> 0:42:43.359
<v Speaker 2>she's lovely. She lasted a year, ok, and then they

0:42:43.440 --> 0:42:45.040
<v Speaker 2>fired her and brought AJ back.

0:42:45.160 --> 0:42:46.600
<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh.

0:42:46.640 --> 0:42:49.720
<v Speaker 2>When I finished my fifteen episodes, they said please stay

0:42:49.840 --> 0:42:53.200
<v Speaker 2>and I was like you, I'm so mad. I'm so

0:42:53.239 --> 0:42:53.680
<v Speaker 2>mad at you.

0:42:54.080 --> 0:42:54.279
<v Speaker 1>Don't.

0:42:54.480 --> 0:42:56.640
<v Speaker 2>I do not accept this. And I left for four

0:42:56.719 --> 0:42:59.880
<v Speaker 2>years and it was great. I did a show called Grandfa.

0:43:00.239 --> 0:43:03.480
<v Speaker 2>I did a show called Another Period for Comedy Central,

0:43:03.880 --> 0:43:09.240
<v Speaker 2>a bunch of drunk histories. I did Community the same, amazing,

0:43:09.680 --> 0:43:11.840
<v Speaker 2>like I did a lot of free went back to

0:43:11.840 --> 0:43:14.800
<v Speaker 2>comedy and had a great time. But during that time,

0:43:15.239 --> 0:43:18.280
<v Speaker 2>fans would come up to me and be like, why

0:43:18.560 --> 0:43:22.320
<v Speaker 2>why are you? Why are you on? And after four years,

0:43:22.360 --> 0:43:24.279
<v Speaker 2>because I really did hold on to that anger for

0:43:24.320 --> 0:43:26.840
<v Speaker 2>too long, it was a healthy thing to hold on to.

0:43:26.920 --> 0:43:30.280
<v Speaker 2>Beau were like we were early, we knew our lines,

0:43:30.320 --> 0:43:32.399
<v Speaker 2>we never got into fights, we never you.

0:43:32.360 --> 0:43:33.480
<v Speaker 1>Know, I mean, I'm real.

0:43:34.239 --> 0:43:39.400
<v Speaker 2>We were really angry and a J was asked back

0:43:39.960 --> 0:43:43.360
<v Speaker 2>a year after she was gone, and she's she's just

0:43:43.400 --> 0:43:46.359
<v Speaker 2>a nicer person than I am. And I'm like, I'm

0:43:46.360 --> 0:43:50.480
<v Speaker 2>from a from a tight anger and fear based Massachusetts people.

0:43:51.040 --> 0:43:53.480
<v Speaker 2>So I held on to be Anger for too long,

0:43:53.640 --> 0:43:57.960
<v Speaker 2>and after four years, I finally thought, why am I not?

0:43:58.800 --> 0:44:02.920
<v Speaker 2>I love everyone there, I just don't like less Moonvez

0:44:03.239 --> 0:44:05.440
<v Speaker 2>and I never have to see him because he doesn't

0:44:05.480 --> 0:44:08.839
<v Speaker 2>care about this show. So I agreed to guest star.

0:44:09.800 --> 0:44:14.719
<v Speaker 2>And then the first day I showed up to guest star,

0:44:17.160 --> 0:44:19.880
<v Speaker 2>there was an altercation between one of the actors in

0:44:19.920 --> 0:44:24.640
<v Speaker 2>the cast and a writer that led to the actor

0:44:24.840 --> 0:44:25.640
<v Speaker 2>being let go.

0:44:26.239 --> 0:44:27.240
<v Speaker 1>What okay?

0:44:27.320 --> 0:44:33.440
<v Speaker 2>So my god, it's just a sad situation all around,

0:44:34.760 --> 0:44:36.480
<v Speaker 2>and something I don't really want to I don't want

0:44:36.520 --> 0:44:36.719
<v Speaker 2>to know.

0:44:36.800 --> 0:44:38.320
<v Speaker 1>I wasn't there, so I can't.

0:44:38.600 --> 0:44:43.080
<v Speaker 2>But when that was inevitable and the studio had made

0:44:43.120 --> 0:44:46.440
<v Speaker 2>a decision and it was over, this person was no

0:44:46.520 --> 0:44:49.680
<v Speaker 2>longer going to be on the cast, the writers and

0:44:49.800 --> 0:44:55.160
<v Speaker 2>studio and network said to me, please come back, and

0:44:55.719 --> 0:44:58.160
<v Speaker 2>now your character be the boss.

0:44:58.280 --> 0:44:58.960
<v Speaker 1>That's cool.

0:44:59.440 --> 0:45:02.360
<v Speaker 2>I like that, and I said okay, And then I fought.

0:45:02.480 --> 0:45:07.879
<v Speaker 2>I fought and fought and fought to try to get

0:45:08.480 --> 0:45:12.120
<v Speaker 2>my episodic fee close to what the men were making. Yes,

0:45:12.440 --> 0:45:17.080
<v Speaker 2>because we were always paid less. So then because I

0:45:17.160 --> 0:45:20.280
<v Speaker 2>was like, well I kind of have them over a barrel.

0:45:20.960 --> 0:45:23.520
<v Speaker 2>They need me more than I need this show, so

0:45:23.719 --> 0:45:28.839
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna go. So I got my episode fee way up.

0:45:29.000 --> 0:45:34.560
<v Speaker 2>Amaze what it was. Then when the other female cast members,

0:45:35.680 --> 0:45:39.400
<v Speaker 2>their contracts were up, and so I said, this is

0:45:39.440 --> 0:45:43.680
<v Speaker 2>what I got, go get more. You stayed and I

0:45:43.800 --> 0:45:46.920
<v Speaker 2>was at So then they went in and they got bigger.

0:45:48.320 --> 0:45:52.840
<v Speaker 2>And then my contract was up and no, actually my

0:45:52.880 --> 0:45:56.960
<v Speaker 2>contract wasn't up. They got raises. And then the next

0:45:57.040 --> 0:45:58.680
<v Speaker 2>year because I told them this is what I'm getting,

0:45:58.680 --> 0:46:01.760
<v Speaker 2>you should get more, we get more. I did. Then

0:46:02.200 --> 0:46:05.080
<v Speaker 2>my contract was not up and and my husband said,

0:46:06.560 --> 0:46:08.960
<v Speaker 2>you're going back. Why don't you ask to make what

0:46:09.000 --> 0:46:10.719
<v Speaker 2>they're making. And I was like, they're never going to

0:46:10.760 --> 0:46:12.359
<v Speaker 2>do that. I'm signed. And he was like, just say

0:46:12.400 --> 0:46:16.640
<v Speaker 2>you want parody, give it a shot. Yeah, And I said, hey, guys,

0:46:16.680 --> 0:46:18.799
<v Speaker 2>I asked. I told my lawyer, my manager, and they

0:46:18.840 --> 0:46:20.400
<v Speaker 2>were like, we can ask. They're not gonna do it.

0:46:20.680 --> 0:46:23.239
<v Speaker 2>They called the next day and said they're gonna pay.

0:46:23.480 --> 0:46:24.520
<v Speaker 1>Oh oh my god.

0:46:24.920 --> 0:46:27.920
<v Speaker 2>So I'm like, amazing, Thank god, I don't have a prenup.

0:46:28.000 --> 0:46:32.640
<v Speaker 2>My husband deserved it, like it was his idea.

0:46:33.080 --> 0:46:35.480
<v Speaker 1>That's adorable, that's a good husband.

0:46:35.640 --> 0:46:38.839
<v Speaker 2>Well we're so beaten down yet thinking well, of course

0:46:38.880 --> 0:46:41.000
<v Speaker 2>we're not making as much as the men, why would

0:46:41.040 --> 0:46:41.520
<v Speaker 2>we we do?

0:46:41.680 --> 0:46:41.799
<v Speaker 1>Oh?

0:46:41.920 --> 0:46:45.239
<v Speaker 2>And I was like, oh this is over. That's over now.

0:46:45.480 --> 0:46:47.880
<v Speaker 2>I do not accept that, and I think a lot

0:46:47.920 --> 0:46:50.280
<v Speaker 2>of people don't. That's radically it's.

0:46:50.120 --> 0:46:53.200
<v Speaker 1>Hard, though, it's really hard. I find it a really

0:46:53.239 --> 0:46:58.959
<v Speaker 1>hard thing always. My thing is like, you know, if

0:46:59.000 --> 0:47:01.560
<v Speaker 1>you love the thing right, then.

0:47:01.480 --> 0:47:03.759
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you would do it for free, right, But you

0:47:03.800 --> 0:47:04.360
<v Speaker 2>can't say that.

0:47:04.600 --> 0:47:08.440
<v Speaker 1>No, it's like really hard for me. And I feel

0:47:08.480 --> 0:47:12.399
<v Speaker 1>like what happens at least back when we all started right,

0:47:12.480 --> 0:47:15.480
<v Speaker 1>or when we were getting like the beginning is a success.

0:47:15.800 --> 0:47:18.160
<v Speaker 1>The way to fight really hard would be not to

0:47:18.200 --> 0:47:18.920
<v Speaker 1>go to work.

0:47:19.320 --> 0:47:21.960
<v Speaker 2>Oh I wouldn't. I could never ever do that, but

0:47:22.040 --> 0:47:26.280
<v Speaker 2>I knew guys who did. There were actors. One day

0:47:26.480 --> 0:47:30.480
<v Speaker 2>someone suddenly got bitten by a poisonous spider and a

0:47:30.520 --> 0:47:33.920
<v Speaker 2>week later they got a huge race. Oh my god,

0:47:34.000 --> 0:47:37.399
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, that's how this works. I would never do that.

0:47:37.560 --> 0:47:39.160
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to do that to the writers, but.

0:47:39.360 --> 0:47:42.200
<v Speaker 1>Either because you know those people, right, I.

0:47:42.160 --> 0:47:43.839
<v Speaker 2>Want to screw those people up right.

0:47:44.320 --> 0:47:47.080
<v Speaker 1>The idea that would they would be sitting at work

0:47:47.400 --> 0:47:49.880
<v Speaker 1>going like, well, you know, I don't know, Chris is

0:47:49.920 --> 0:47:53.040
<v Speaker 1>may not come in like, I can't even say I

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<v Speaker 1>can't even live with that thought, much less do it,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. And so in the beginning I always thought

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<v Speaker 1>that that's what you had to do, because that's the

0:48:00.640 --> 0:48:03.080
<v Speaker 1>only way I'd ever seen at work. And I was like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just not going to do that. I just can't.

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<v Speaker 2>That's not who I am, and I don't I choose

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<v Speaker 2>my choice. I choose I choose my choice an independent

0:48:12.120 --> 0:48:17.560
<v Speaker 2>operator who's going to screw other people to get up right.

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<v Speaker 1>Because they have to live with yourself. That is who

0:48:20.560 --> 0:48:22.680
<v Speaker 1>you are. I don't want to be did not want

0:48:22.719 --> 0:48:26.399
<v Speaker 1>to do that right, and that seemed to be there

0:48:26.440 --> 0:48:29.480
<v Speaker 1>were no in betweens, right, there was this, and there's that,

0:48:29.640 --> 0:48:32.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, and so I thought, well, you know what,

0:48:32.160 --> 0:48:33.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm just going to have less money than I might

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<v Speaker 1>have had, which is annoying, but I still can live

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<v Speaker 1>with myself, right. And so it's so great that you

0:48:40.600 --> 0:48:43.319
<v Speaker 1>were able to find another way to do that, and

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<v Speaker 1>also that obviously you were a team player and doing

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<v Speaker 1>an excellent job in the first place and wrongly fired

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<v Speaker 1>and then god it came back around for you me too.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm extremely thankful for that.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to talk about the hair because I really,

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<v Speaker 1>really I am jealous. Okay, how did it happen? I'm

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<v Speaker 1>super into it.

0:49:06.000 --> 0:49:09.799
<v Speaker 2>I was afforded every opportunity the last year, when we

0:49:09.880 --> 0:49:12.960
<v Speaker 2>knew Criminal Minds was ending at CBS and we were

0:49:13.000 --> 0:49:16.520
<v Speaker 2>going to shoot season fifteen and be done, I asked

0:49:16.560 --> 0:49:22.239
<v Speaker 2>our showrunner, Erica Messer, may I wear a wig for

0:49:22.280 --> 0:49:24.719
<v Speaker 2>this last year. So that's a whole. And my hair

0:49:24.760 --> 0:49:27.120
<v Speaker 2>looked like a wig anyway. It was like black bangs,

0:49:27.200 --> 0:49:29.920
<v Speaker 2>black long hair. I was dying my roots on, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>every other weekend because I can't sit in a salon chair.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh it's hard if I don't have to do it

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<v Speaker 2>in the morning. Sure, I'm learning my lines, I'm getting

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<v Speaker 2>a blowout.

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<v Speaker 1>I love it.

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<v Speaker 2>But I wasn't going to be doing and I started

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<v Speaker 2>going gray when I was twenty eight. Oh, I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>even know what was under there.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so beautiful.

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<v Speaker 2>I love it now, but man, no, the in between.

0:49:49.760 --> 0:49:51.719
<v Speaker 2>She let me wear a wig, but I had to

0:49:51.760 --> 0:49:55.800
<v Speaker 2>cut it down to a crew cut, and that worked.

0:49:55.800 --> 0:49:57.879
<v Speaker 2>When I was eighteen. I had a crew cut. When

0:49:57.880 --> 0:50:01.760
<v Speaker 2>I was eighteen, I had died permanent for so long

0:50:02.080 --> 0:50:06.600
<v Speaker 2>that I couldn't strip go black and brown out. So

0:50:06.920 --> 0:50:09.960
<v Speaker 2>it went down to this. Now we finished Criminal Minds

0:50:10.200 --> 0:50:14.359
<v Speaker 2>season fifteen, I am just wearing hats all the time

0:50:14.360 --> 0:50:17.840
<v Speaker 2>because I look like at its longest, I look like

0:50:17.960 --> 0:50:23.520
<v Speaker 2>George Washington, it's springing, it's short. I am unattractive. I

0:50:23.560 --> 0:50:27.279
<v Speaker 2>am not rocking this hairstyle, and I feel awful, so

0:50:27.400 --> 0:50:30.480
<v Speaker 2>I'm not sexy. My husband's doing everything in his power.

0:50:30.560 --> 0:50:33.880
<v Speaker 2>He's like, baby, you look great. Let me touch that

0:50:33.920 --> 0:50:36.040
<v Speaker 2>fuzz on the back. You're like, oh, that's so. It

0:50:36.080 --> 0:50:40.440
<v Speaker 2>feels so cool, it's beautiful. He's the best. Oh again, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so but then pandemic. So now I have two years

0:50:45.080 --> 0:50:48.000
<v Speaker 2>wow to grow it out. And I love it long,

0:50:48.080 --> 0:50:52.120
<v Speaker 2>like your length. I prefer I want this length.

0:50:52.239 --> 0:50:53.759
<v Speaker 1>It's so gorgeous.

0:50:53.920 --> 0:50:55.919
<v Speaker 2>But when it got to the bob, I was like, okay,

0:50:55.920 --> 0:50:58.640
<v Speaker 2>I'm coming out of the funk. At least it's like

0:50:58.960 --> 0:51:01.399
<v Speaker 2>I can't put it in a ponytail. But it took

0:51:01.520 --> 0:51:05.360
<v Speaker 2>so long. Wow, and I would. And when when women

0:51:05.480 --> 0:51:08.839
<v Speaker 2>and women do compliment me a lot, like they they

0:51:08.880 --> 0:51:11.560
<v Speaker 2>love it, and they'll they're they're dyeing their hair. I

0:51:11.560 --> 0:51:13.040
<v Speaker 2>can tell some of them a little bit of gray

0:51:13.080 --> 0:51:14.719
<v Speaker 2>at the roots. They're like I want to do it,

0:51:14.760 --> 0:51:18.680
<v Speaker 2>and I say, be prepared to cut all of your

0:51:18.719 --> 0:51:20.600
<v Speaker 2>hair off because you're not going to get that die

0:51:20.640 --> 0:51:22.920
<v Speaker 2>out and you're not gonna like it. You're gonna feel

0:51:22.920 --> 0:51:25.600
<v Speaker 2>like crap for year or two. And I had the pandemic.

0:51:25.760 --> 0:51:29.240
<v Speaker 2>I had a year of wig and two years of pandemic.

0:51:29.320 --> 0:51:31.360
<v Speaker 2>So I got it. When we came out of the pandemic,

0:51:31.400 --> 0:51:33.799
<v Speaker 2>I was like, I'm a goddess.

0:51:33.400 --> 0:51:36.759
<v Speaker 1>Thank God, But I know you had such foresight, Like

0:51:36.800 --> 0:51:39.880
<v Speaker 1>this was really really smart of you. I mean, it's impressive.

0:51:39.880 --> 0:51:41.960
<v Speaker 2>I think it's all luck. I think it's all luck.

0:51:42.120 --> 0:51:45.600
<v Speaker 2>And the funny thing was the last year of Criminal Minds,

0:51:45.640 --> 0:51:47.080
<v Speaker 2>I was like, Okay, I'm gonna grow my hair out

0:51:47.120 --> 0:51:49.640
<v Speaker 2>gray and then I'm going to do like all kinds

0:51:49.640 --> 0:51:52.880
<v Speaker 2>of different parts with gray hair. And then pandemic hits

0:51:53.200 --> 0:51:56.520
<v Speaker 2>nothing and the whole I was like, I'm going to

0:51:56.600 --> 0:51:58.640
<v Speaker 2>be on like a really cutting edge streaming show with

0:51:58.760 --> 0:52:01.960
<v Speaker 2>my gray hair. And then when Paramount Plus picked us

0:52:02.000 --> 0:52:05.200
<v Speaker 2>up during the pandemic, then you were I went in

0:52:05.280 --> 0:52:07.879
<v Speaker 2>and said, I can wear the wig, I have the hair,

0:52:07.960 --> 0:52:11.759
<v Speaker 2>I have real hair wig, or we can do the gray.

0:52:12.000 --> 0:52:14.600
<v Speaker 2>It's up to you. I don't care. I'm in the

0:52:14.640 --> 0:52:17.799
<v Speaker 2>hair chair for eight minutes my real hair. I get

0:52:17.840 --> 0:52:23.239
<v Speaker 2>a beautiful blowout, and they went to Paramount Plus with

0:52:23.920 --> 0:52:26.919
<v Speaker 2>like photos. First I went to the DP and I said,

0:52:27.080 --> 0:52:28.920
<v Speaker 2>is this going to be difficult to light? He was like,

0:52:29.040 --> 0:52:31.839
<v Speaker 2>I love it, amazing. The showrunner was like I love

0:52:31.840 --> 0:52:34.840
<v Speaker 2>it amazing. He says, I love it. U PM great.

0:52:35.160 --> 0:52:37.279
<v Speaker 2>So then I then they went to this. They said

0:52:37.280 --> 0:52:38.600
<v Speaker 2>we have to run it by the studio and I

0:52:38.760 --> 0:52:42.279
<v Speaker 2>still was like, I can wig or not fine, and

0:52:42.320 --> 0:52:46.680
<v Speaker 2>the studio said we love the gray, which was a shock.

0:52:47.120 --> 0:52:49.040
<v Speaker 2>I did not think that was going to happen. Good

0:52:49.080 --> 0:52:51.600
<v Speaker 2>for them, Yeah, it was very surprise.

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<v Speaker 1>Also super smart of how you went about it, because

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<v Speaker 1>I think what happens as an actor or actress, especially

0:52:58.680 --> 0:53:02.040
<v Speaker 1>if you have it I am doing this, that's when

0:53:02.080 --> 0:53:03.000
<v Speaker 1>things go wrong.

0:53:03.120 --> 0:53:06.319
<v Speaker 2>Oh no, yeah, you're yeah, Yeah, we're yeah. And I

0:53:06.400 --> 0:53:10.160
<v Speaker 2>got But I mean I did understand that I had

0:53:10.200 --> 0:53:14.520
<v Speaker 2>presented as this brunette for the whole time. You know,

0:53:14.560 --> 0:53:17.799
<v Speaker 2>I wasn't really doing If I did, I would do

0:53:17.880 --> 0:53:24.239
<v Speaker 2>comedies and wigs. But but when I went gray and

0:53:24.280 --> 0:53:28.319
<v Speaker 2>it was shorter, the only show that cast me was

0:53:28.440 --> 0:53:33.799
<v Speaker 2>Mom ha ha. That Alison Janny Anna Faris. I was

0:53:33.920 --> 0:53:37.480
<v Speaker 2>cast with very short gray hair, and they said, we

0:53:37.520 --> 0:53:39.239
<v Speaker 2>don't need to put a wig on you. Oh. When

0:53:39.280 --> 0:53:40.920
<v Speaker 2>I did a bunch of episodes of How I Met

0:53:40.920 --> 0:53:44.160
<v Speaker 2>your Father, they wigged me, and so I was always like,

0:53:44.280 --> 0:53:48.040
<v Speaker 2>I don't care, I'll wig not wig. Things are wigs

0:53:48.040 --> 0:53:50.799
<v Speaker 2>are done so well now in the hands of a

0:53:50.800 --> 0:53:53.120
<v Speaker 2>professional that you could beat, you can be anything.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a really good point. I never even think of this.

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<v Speaker 1>I just go to that salon all the damn time.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope you've enjoyed this chat with Paget Brewster. She's

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<v Speaker 1>really really fun and we're going to have part two

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<v Speaker 1>later this week, so please join us on Are You

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<v Speaker 1>a Charlotte