1 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:08,960 Speaker 1: Before this season started, I had sat down with Dre 2 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 1: and he was just telling me to be where I 3 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 1: wanted to be when I was gonna have to take 4 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:16,480 Speaker 1: a lot of sacrifices this offseason, and it's definitely starting 5 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 1: to pay off. We're facing the guy like Herbert. You 6 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 1: gotta affect him in some type of way. Of course, 7 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:24,480 Speaker 1: he could throw the ball anywhere on the field, so 8 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 1: path for us definitely gonna be a big emphasius for 9 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 1: us this week. My objective is to get to him, 10 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:33,479 Speaker 1: make him uncomfortable. This is the Minnesota Vikings podcast and 11 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:38,240 Speaker 1: we're in episode one nineteen. I'm Tata Moverett always happy 12 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 1: to be joined by Gabe Henderson and Jay Nelson and guys. 13 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:44,240 Speaker 1: It was just another game coming down to the wire. 14 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:49,199 Speaker 1: Third overtime contest of the season. The Vikings are now 15 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:51,879 Speaker 1: one and two in ot after the thirty four to 16 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:55,279 Speaker 1: thirty one loss on the road at Baltimore. It's just 17 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 1: one of those games. We were in it all the 18 00:00:57,160 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 1: way until the end when we weren't. Yeah, and that's 19 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:04,679 Speaker 1: been the story of the season as far, just being 20 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:07,399 Speaker 1: in games that we should already have won and then 21 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 1: waiting to the end to either lose or win one 22 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:13,760 Speaker 1: in two and overtime eight games, three overtimes thus far. 23 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 1: Like that that is the story of our team up 24 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 1: until this point. And it's like, dude, we're up fourteen 25 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:23,680 Speaker 1: points in the third quarter, get a kick return. You 26 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 1: got an opportunity to stop their offense. We stop their offense, 27 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 1: and then we can't put up points, and it's like 28 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 1: here we go again. The offense is already having a 29 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 1: great day, great first half, and it's like, you just 30 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:38,319 Speaker 1: want to sustain some of those drives and continue the 31 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 1: momentum that we already have. And I mean, sudden change 32 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 1: has probably been the biggest or deal this entire season, Jade. 33 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 1: It's like they play the level of their competition and 34 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 1: are always in games. We're always in games. And if 35 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 1: you want to find a stat that I think is 36 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 1: very telling right now, do you guys know what the 37 00:01:57,280 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 1: point in differential average is between the Vikings and their 38 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 1: opponents so far this season per game, on a per 39 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 1: game game, on a per game basis, Yeah, what is 40 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 1: the point differential? I would say like three and a half. 41 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 1: I'll probably say four point four points per point four 42 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:19,799 Speaker 1: point point four we currently we currently have one by 43 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:21,920 Speaker 1: a grand total of twenty one points, and our three 44 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:25,240 Speaker 1: wins and our five losses have been by eighteen points. 45 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 1: There is a three point difference for the entire season. 46 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 1: That is how razor thin these losses and wins have 47 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 1: been for us. And if you think about it, that 48 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 1: Seattle game was by thirteen points. So it's it's been 49 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 1: just insane how close this season has been to you know, 50 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 1: doing the right thing, getting the win, having that final drive, 51 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:51,640 Speaker 1: and we've how many times, even this week you had 52 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 1: all of these different times in the drives you're just 53 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 1: looking at it saying, just punch the thing in and 54 00:02:57,040 --> 00:02:59,359 Speaker 1: we've got it. You know, we need to have something 55 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 1: to get to over time. We get it when we 56 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 1: it feels like when you get to crunch time, this 57 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 1: team finds a way just not to finish at the end. 58 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 1: And that has been the most maddening thing for this 59 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 1: entire season. We're good enough, oh one thousand percent. I mean, 60 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 1: I think that point differential just tells you how good 61 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 1: enough because when you think about the types of teams 62 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 1: we've been playing, I mean, we have you know, kept 63 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:26,520 Speaker 1: it close with the Bengals, the Cardinals, the Cowboys, the Ravens, 64 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 1: I mean like these teams are no slouches in their divisions, 65 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 1: their leading divisions, and so yeah, that's it's that stats 66 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 1: maddening and frustrating, and I honestly did not know, well, 67 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 1: you know, kudos on the research on that one man, 68 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 1: that's a bad one. Uh So, so obviously that's that's 69 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 1: a lot of sounds of frustrations from us. Right off 70 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 1: the top of the podcast. In the n session, it 71 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 1: sounded like the VENT session, I'll give you guys another minute, 72 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 1: maybe we'll go in more detail about I guess what 73 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 1: exactly made you the most frustrated UM this week. But 74 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 1: I also kind of thought there were a lot of 75 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 1: bright spots UM, a lot of endivi vidual performances technically 76 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 1: to talk about. So we'll kind of we'll butt these 77 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 1: things against each other. We'll have a minute to vent 78 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 1: in a minute to just kind of talk about what 79 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 1: you walked away from as far as like you know, 80 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 1: the power minute of positivity that we like to say it. So, 81 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:19,039 Speaker 1: I guess, Gabe, would you like to do the honors 82 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:24,479 Speaker 1: and go first? Three two one. I think my biggest 83 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:29,040 Speaker 1: Vince ashes how we played two halves of football on 84 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 1: the offensive side of the ball one hundred, well two 85 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 1: hundred and four total yards in the first half of offense. 86 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:37,839 Speaker 1: You got one hundred and two rushing and passing yards 87 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 1: in the first half. That is as balanced as you 88 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 1: can get. And then we go out in the second 89 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:44,720 Speaker 1: half and only get ninety six yards. First half, we 90 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:46,600 Speaker 1: were four eight on third down. We finished the game 91 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 1: with one more third down conversion, ending five or fourteen, 92 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:54,160 Speaker 1: and you're just like, what happened? Like, where did this 93 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:58,280 Speaker 1: thing go? Why can't we finish this game? Literally the 94 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 1: Balstonmore Arabians they were ready to and it kind of 95 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 1: it kind of felt like the Arizona Cardinals game a 96 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:07,040 Speaker 1: little bit to me. You're you're winning and going into 97 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 1: the half, and then they score right before the half. 98 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 1: That pass interference on Xavier Woods right before the half 99 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 1: killed me, and I'm like, all right, well, hopefully that 100 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 1: doesn't kill the momentum. And then it seemed like right 101 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:20,159 Speaker 1: after that kick returned in the second half, all hell 102 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 1: broke loose. To your point, though the Vikings even toys 103 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 1: allow of forty five points in the final two minutes 104 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 1: of the first half of the season. I was bracing 105 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 1: myself when they got the ball before halftime, and I was, 106 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 1: you know, talking to Robert because Robert and I get 107 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 1: really frustrated. Robert Smith and I get really frustrated together 108 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 1: does the postgame show. I get to watch the games, 109 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:41,720 Speaker 1: the away games with him, and he and I were 110 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:44,360 Speaker 1: sitting there being like, please don't, please don't allow a 111 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:47,799 Speaker 1: score right here, because this is the this is what's 112 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 1: been happening on repeat. And it was the same whole 113 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:54,280 Speaker 1: song and dance. But even to that point, it was 114 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 1: third down right, and you started getting some confidence. It 115 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 1: was third down right before Lamar Jackson threw that ball 116 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 1: and uh, I think it's super shod Bateman and we 117 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 1: had the PI and it was like okay, like we're 118 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:06,280 Speaker 1: actually getting some momentum, like we're we're gonna make him 119 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:08,280 Speaker 1: punt and know the ball up fourteen going into the 120 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 1: half or at least seventeen to six, and then boom, 121 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:15,280 Speaker 1: it's like, ah, so like it. It's moments like that 122 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 1: costly penalties well point yeah, and you hear the forty 123 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 1: five points and you think of Jay's point differential stat 124 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 1: and that's also just you just sure of that one 125 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 1: part of the game and you would potentially be I 126 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 1: mean that one was say undefeated, but like, I mean 127 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:33,160 Speaker 1: kind of. I think I think the hard part with 128 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:36,280 Speaker 1: watching that as as you said, was they get the 129 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 1: ball and the mentality is oh no, not again, right 130 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 1: right right at that that point. And I think the 131 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 1: most disheartening thing on my end was I was messaging 132 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 1: with some people when the score at half was only 133 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:51,800 Speaker 1: a seven point Differentially, I'm like, given everything you did 134 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:54,360 Speaker 1: in that first quarter, given how many points you scored, 135 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:57,280 Speaker 1: and you're still only up by seven. That was the 136 00:06:57,440 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 1: part on my end. I was looking at it saying, 137 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 1: it feels like, man, there's some missed opportunities here or 138 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:05,360 Speaker 1: in a thousand percent or plays away from being seventy one. 139 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 1: That's absolutely insane crazy. Oh you know, I think after 140 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 1: all of this, we probably need to do a deep 141 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 1: dive into like NFL history and see like how many 142 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 1: teams have had at this close or in this situation 143 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 1: that's happened before. Yeah, they're making history. They're making history, 144 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 1: just not the right kind of history. They were saying 145 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 1: that they were thank we were the third team that's 146 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 1: done this on you know, back to back to back 147 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 1: weeks kind of a thing. So like it that is 148 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 1: not the side of the stat and history that you 149 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 1: really want to be on. It's not, well, Jay, it's maddening. 150 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 1: But yeah, you got any other extra frustrations you'd like 151 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 1: to take out, Um, sure, ready go. I think the 152 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 1: thing that was most maddening for me was not only 153 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 1: that you had the hot start that we had just 154 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 1: talked about, but then you also had Kna Wongu coming 155 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 1: into the game and housing a kick return for the 156 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 1: first time. Since twenty sixteen, we've been begging for someone 157 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 1: to kind of pick up the mantle like or Daryl 158 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 1: Patterson used to and to see a bright spot like 159 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 1: that and come out and feel like, Okay, here we go. 160 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 1: We're changing. We're changing the the m o of what 161 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 1: we're known for at this point, you know, starting second 162 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 1: half is like we're jumping on these guys and we're 163 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 1: just going to keep the pedal down and then to 164 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 1: again to go back into the lull. That was ridiculously frustrating. 165 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 1: But then on top of that, you also have guys 166 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 1: like Kenny Wilks who are stepping up in spot duties, 167 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 1: and you're seeing these younger guys that are filling in 168 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 1: and they're actually producing in a positive manner. It was 169 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 1: very fun and very hopeful to feel like these guys 170 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:36,319 Speaker 1: are going to be able to not only produce now 171 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:39,560 Speaker 1: but for the future, and to again see the result 172 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:42,439 Speaker 1: happen the way it did getting to overtime, it was 173 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 1: just a very disheartening that. I think that's what's so 174 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 1: maddening because again I keep using this word, but because 175 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:52,439 Speaker 1: of the way that you feel after these losses. It's like, 176 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 1: I still have a lot of great things to say 177 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 1: about players, and the youth movement is very promising right now. 178 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:01,199 Speaker 1: You wonder like the obviously you don't want to be 179 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:03,719 Speaker 1: that team that's just like, well, we're going to be 180 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 1: good eventually. But it is nice to see some of 181 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 1: these young guys really stick out. Because there are so 182 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 1: many injuries in this game and a season of frustration, 183 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 1: in a season of having some of your bigger names 184 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 1: that are now out not only short term but long term. 185 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 1: There have been criticism just saying, you know, why, why 186 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:24,840 Speaker 1: aren't we picking players that are producing immediately? Why aren't 187 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:27,199 Speaker 1: these young guys stepping up? And I think now that 188 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 1: some of these other players are getting to the point 189 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:33,719 Speaker 1: now where they're in season two and potentially three, and 190 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 1: coaches are now looking at him saying, you know, it's 191 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:39,839 Speaker 1: go time, and the fact that they're actually producing and 192 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:41,959 Speaker 1: you're flashing on the field and you're like, man, where's 193 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:45,080 Speaker 1: this ben? I think that that's very promising and hopeful 194 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 1: for the future. And given a guy like Willikis who 195 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 1: got injured right away when he came in here, but 196 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:52,679 Speaker 1: they've stuck with him. It's been It was fun to 197 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 1: watch him play in that game and just kind of 198 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 1: feel like, yeah, we got another guy coming up here 199 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 1: through the ranks. I think um dj Wantam had to 200 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 1: under rady game too. Yeah. Feeling for Danielle Hunter. He 201 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 1: had a sack, had a few hurries. He was playing 202 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 1: against a guy that was six to nine and Andrew 203 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 1: Vello Nueva. So yeah, and he had a couple of 204 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:13,439 Speaker 1: plays that they pointed out on TV and him like 205 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 1: that guy is a monster. Yeah. So, But to your 206 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 1: point of some of these second year guys coming in 207 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 1: and stepping up, um, I think a guy in Cameron Danceler, 208 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:24,199 Speaker 1: he didn't play a bad game either. You expect some 209 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:25,840 Speaker 1: of these guys to make a jump in their career. 210 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:28,439 Speaker 1: Last week against the Cowboys, you know, it was a 211 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 1: little tough you know, it was their first game in there, 212 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:33,680 Speaker 1: or their first game well DJ want in particular, first 213 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 1: game actually playing, so coming into this game, you can 214 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 1: tell they had that extra juice this weekend. It showed. 215 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 1: I mean, granted, this UM Baltimore Ravens team had eighty 216 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 1: nine plays, five hundred yards, but that's still only five 217 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 1: point six yards per play, and that kutof kudos to 218 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 1: the defense. And I think that's the hardest part is 219 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 1: you just you look at this, this game that just happened, 220 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:56,839 Speaker 1: and you think about the fact defensively they were on 221 00:10:57,000 --> 00:10:59,199 Speaker 1: the field for eighty nine I'm gonna time out you 222 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 1: guys real quick. That's my vent Sesh understood. Worries, No worries, 223 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:05,719 Speaker 1: all right, So we will we will stop and you 224 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:08,200 Speaker 1: can pick up the mantelime. Okay, sounds good, Yeah, pass 225 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 1: the baton. Okay. So my vent Sesh time of possession 226 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 1: forty five minutes versus twenty three. Number of offensive plays 227 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:21,960 Speaker 1: eighty eight verse fifty two, first downs thirty six This offense, 228 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:25,959 Speaker 1: this offense led by a very capable quarterback with a 229 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 1: very capable blackfield and a very capable ride receiving corps. 230 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 1: Thirteen first downs eight penalties for one hundred and seven yards. 231 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 1: We're in week eight, week nine. I mean, this is 232 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 1: not something that needs to be happening. You're just you're 233 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 1: shooting yourself in the foot. And for me, another thing 234 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 1: that really just stuck out with this offense is if 235 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 1: you take out that Justin Jefferson touchdown and that Dalvin 236 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:51,320 Speaker 1: cook sixty six yard run, two hundred and two yards 237 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:54,319 Speaker 1: of total offense, and despite all of that, you lose 238 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 1: an overtime. There's just so many good things going on. 239 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 1: But to me, this team is their own worst enemy, 240 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 1: and it's very frustrating because I think you want to 241 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:09,320 Speaker 1: believe in them, and I do believe in them. It's 242 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 1: just to see these stats and as they're happening, Oh wow, 243 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 1: it's just frustrating. I'm done. Honestly, you met a good point. 244 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:20,199 Speaker 1: I honestly think a lot of it it's penalties, Like 245 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:23,319 Speaker 1: we're shooting ourselves on the foot. That one penalty. It 246 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 1: was like right after the half, we score on the 247 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:28,560 Speaker 1: kickoff return, the Baltimore even score, so it's twenty four 248 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 1: to seventeen, and you're like, okay, Like granted, our offenses 249 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 1: had their way in the first half, we should be 250 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 1: able to have our way in the second half. We 251 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 1: already got some momentum, and then they go seven play 252 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 1: sixteen yards, but we have three penalties on that drive, 253 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 1: and one is a holding, the others a false start. 254 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 1: You're already putting yourself at second and twenty. You get 255 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 1: eight yards false start second and thirteen. So it's like 256 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:53,079 Speaker 1: we're killing ourselves with these penalties. I don't think the 257 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:56,840 Speaker 1: execution is there. I think it's more so mental errors 258 00:12:57,360 --> 00:12:59,559 Speaker 1: and mental errors in key moments. And I'm sure that 259 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 1: this staff they're going to talk to these guys about that. Like, 260 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 1: you know, one hundred and seven yards, it's a lot 261 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 1: of yards when it comes to pecially in a game 262 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:09,320 Speaker 1: that came down to, you know, the game winning field goal. Yeah, 263 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 1: I tend to be somebody that kind of takes those 264 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:14,959 Speaker 1: yards and just mathematically says, it's almost the equivalent of 265 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 1: just add that to whatever the other team's offense has done. Yeah. 266 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:22,199 Speaker 1: So now you're looking at it, going over six hundred 267 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 1: yards worth of offense on that on that, you know, 268 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:28,559 Speaker 1: for the other team on that, it's like that is 269 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:34,079 Speaker 1: almost insurmountable, and in this case it was almost. But 270 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:37,440 Speaker 1: imagine if they would have scored after the Anthony bar interception, 271 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 1: then you would have been like, look at all these 272 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 1: stats and they still manage to win. Which is why 273 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 1: when you have things like a plus two turnover differential 274 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 1: on back to back weeks and you lose both games, 275 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:51,960 Speaker 1: that is that is absolutely it's almost like defying defying 276 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:55,120 Speaker 1: the science of football in a way, like they've been 277 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:57,319 Speaker 1: defying all of the things that you know, if you 278 00:13:57,559 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 1: if you write a winning formula book, it's like defying 279 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 1: the fundamentals that the probabilities and all the analytics side 280 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 1: of things. It's defying it. I mean, there is signs 281 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:10,679 Speaker 1: behind it, but football is just a game of chess. No, 282 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 1: I I know, but it's just it's just kind of 283 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:14,959 Speaker 1: like like there is a science behind it, there is 284 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 1: a sign for sure. I'm with you on that, but 285 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 1: like I was just I was talking about this earlier 286 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 1: this week, and I was like, after watching the film, 287 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 1: you really understand After watching the film this Ravens game, 288 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 1: you really helped me understand how much of a game 289 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 1: of chess the game of football is. Like on third down, 290 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 1: third and one, Dalvin Cook has the sixty six yard touchdown, right, 291 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 1: So as an offensive coordinator. You're like, Okay, well they're 292 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 1: going to expect they're going to expect the sweet war 293 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 1: a run on the second, I mean on the on 294 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 1: the next third and short and granted they didn't blitz, 295 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 1: so like we're running like a blitz type of pass, 296 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 1: like a couple of out routes, and they're in zone 297 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:54,400 Speaker 1: coverage and it's like, damn, they just they just out 298 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 1: smarter this and like you just gotta chalk that up. 299 00:14:56,760 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 1: And it's almost like you have to like and like 300 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 1: you anticipate the but then you have to anticipate what 301 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:05,400 Speaker 1: they think you think you're gonna do. Ye es. Yeah, 302 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 1: I heard um remember her an expert basically talking about 303 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 1: what was different in this game versus normal and they 304 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 1: were saying that the Ravens are one of the most 305 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 1: blitz happy defenses, and so you know, we're assuming going 306 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 1: in there that that's going to happen. They blitzed twenty 307 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 1: five percent of the game, which was well below their average, 308 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 1: and so that's exactly what you're talking about. We're anticipating 309 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 1: a lot of blitzes and they're basically going too high 310 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 1: safety zone and a lot of their blizzes were on 311 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 1: second down, which they didn't show much at all, and they, 312 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 1: like you to your point, they blitzed twenty five percent 313 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:40,600 Speaker 1: of the timeless past the game. They usually blitzed like 314 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 1: forty percent, yeah, of the game every single game this year. 315 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 1: And the most critical play that we had was on 316 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 1: the turnover and over time on that third down. They 317 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 1: brought the blitzing guy off their right our left side, 318 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 1: right at the critical time. And we've seen Zimmer do 319 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 1: that in the past, where you know, you're kind of 320 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 1: flipping up your scheme a little bit, and then when 321 00:15:57,400 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 1: it gets to pressure time, that's when you turn up 322 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 1: the heat. And that's exactly what they did to us. 323 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 1: So again, like you're saying, kudos wise to them, chess wise, 324 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 1: that was a very very they learned from their mistakes 325 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 1: against the Bengals for sure. That second and eight over time, 326 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 1: you're talking about that that one drive, second and the 327 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 1: second yeah, and they yeah, second and eight. I mean 328 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 1: what you're thinking is like, Okay, well they gotta pass 329 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 1: the ball here. So I mean, as a defensive coordinators, like, 330 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 1: all right, the Viks got to pass the ball, they 331 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 1: got to get some some yards to gain. They send 332 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 1: the house. We do a suite minus one yard and 333 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 1: so damn, like this is a game like it's yeah, 334 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 1: like if if you're really into like the cerebral part 335 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 1: of the game, like you love stuff like that. And 336 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 1: I was like, dude, I mean you really can't you 337 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 1: talk it up to just like it's a game of chess. 338 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 1: You love to be on the winning side of exact. Yeah, 339 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 1: so you want to checkmate? So for sure. Well, I 340 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 1: guess we mentioned a little earlier there were some positives 341 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 1: in this game as well, So I'll I think we 342 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 1: should take a minute to just reflect on what we 343 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 1: could capitalize on this week when the Vikings traveled to 344 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 1: the Chargers on Sunday. So, Gabe, I'll put you on 345 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 1: the clock. You're ready. Something that we can build on 346 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:06,680 Speaker 1: is how effective we were on first down. I think 347 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:08,639 Speaker 1: we average like over six yards on first down this 348 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 1: pass game, and that's something that we can continue to 349 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 1: build on, as far as like getting ahead of the sticks, 350 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:16,399 Speaker 1: calling some shots. First play of the game was a 351 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 1: reverse to justin Jefferson calling it switching things up. And 352 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:22,480 Speaker 1: I feel like if we're able to be effective against 353 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:25,399 Speaker 1: this team on first down, they will eventually fold. They 354 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:28,680 Speaker 1: will have to respect our pass game, and then that's 355 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:30,640 Speaker 1: when opportunities for the run will work. And I think 356 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 1: whoever's toting the ball, whether that's Kirk, whether that's Dalvin, 357 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 1: al was in a Madison, justin Jefferson, there will be 358 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 1: opportunities for those guys to run in space if award 359 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 1: of the opportunity. Because you look at our offense, you 360 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:46,480 Speaker 1: know we're going to play action pass. And if we 361 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:48,640 Speaker 1: are a step ahead, like we were just talking about 362 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:50,480 Speaker 1: a playing chess, if we are a step ahead against 363 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 1: these guys and they're thinking past after we gash them 364 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:56,439 Speaker 1: for a couple of runs down the field, I think 365 00:17:56,520 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 1: that will bold well for whoever is in the box 366 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 1: on this Lahr perfect timing. That was beautiful, nice, nice execution. 367 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 1: The offense should take some note. Now you turn out 368 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 1: the heat on me on this one. Yeah, all right, Jay, 369 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 1: you're ready, Yes, ma'am, all right, go. I think for me, 370 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:16,359 Speaker 1: the thing that's been most positive that you can build on, 371 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 1: not only from this past week, but from previous weeks 372 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 1: is the amount of turnovers that we're getting the fact 373 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:25,359 Speaker 1: that you're you're seeing people being set up to be 374 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:29,439 Speaker 1: able to make some positive plays, especially defensively and get 375 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:31,879 Speaker 1: the ball back in the offense's hands. Offense then has 376 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 1: to do something with it. But to see the athletic 377 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:37,440 Speaker 1: play that Anthony Barr made, which was ridiculous, um, and 378 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 1: it was great to see him tip the ball to 379 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 1: himself and go for it. Um. And then on top 380 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 1: of that the interception that happened. You're looking at this 381 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 1: defense still making plays even though they were on the 382 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 1: field for you know, almost ninety plays for the game. 383 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:53,720 Speaker 1: But for me, it's every single week seeing defensively them 384 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 1: not quit and trying to make plays to get the 385 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:59,200 Speaker 1: ball back in the offense's hands has been something that 386 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 1: I've been very very happy with. So hopefully coming up 387 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 1: here against the Chargers, They've still have some guys that 388 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:08,479 Speaker 1: have some huge playmaking ability, and I think you can 389 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:11,200 Speaker 1: potentially get Herbert to make a couple of mistakes and 390 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 1: hopefully the offense can capital was perfect. I mean, yeah, 391 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:18,159 Speaker 1: think about it. I put this into perspective on the 392 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:20,360 Speaker 1: postgame show because it was just like so like after 393 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:23,880 Speaker 1: the defensive performance that we had. The numbers don't really 394 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:27,480 Speaker 1: speak for himself because to the effort. To your point, 395 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:32,720 Speaker 1: but you think about four veterans out for this game, 396 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 1: Pierce Smith, Peterson Hunter plus bare Breeling goes down in 397 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:41,359 Speaker 1: the second quarter. Yeah. Yeah, So you've got five stars, 398 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:45,160 Speaker 1: almost half of your starters gone, and you're still contending 399 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:48,440 Speaker 1: with an NFL MVP and an offense that you know 400 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 1: it is very dangerous both on the ground and in 401 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 1: the air. I mean, it really does. Is a testament 402 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 1: to how you know, Adam Zimmer and Andre Parison have 403 00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:01,440 Speaker 1: prepared these guys to be ready for anything and next 404 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:04,919 Speaker 1: man up, next man up. And I think the hardest 405 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:07,960 Speaker 1: part is is you have that paired with it's the 406 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:10,480 Speaker 1: yend and the yang of that side mixed with five 407 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:14,520 Speaker 1: hundred yards given up right now, and that's again the 408 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:19,440 Speaker 1: only five point six yards, and we keep we keep 409 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:21,920 Speaker 1: saying the word and I think for me, it's just maddening. 410 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 1: It's yes, there's there's a lot of things you can 411 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 1: point to and say this is a positive, and on 412 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:30,199 Speaker 1: the flip side, say, but why is this other side happening? 413 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 1: And I think that's got to be driving them nuts 414 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 1: up in the coaching department. And this isn't Evin Sesh, 415 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:36,920 Speaker 1: but I think if I had to put one word 416 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 1: on everything is penalizes, where the seventh most penalized team 417 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:43,439 Speaker 1: as far as yards. Wait, there are six other teams 418 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 1: that are worse than US. Yeah, and they have losing 419 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:50,720 Speaker 1: records too. Oh okay, surprise, surprise, wow. But it's so 420 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:55,640 Speaker 1: frustrating when you have so many penalty yards but you're 421 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:57,680 Speaker 1: doing so well on the other side of the spectrum, 422 00:20:57,760 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 1: Like that kind of negates everything. It's kind of like 423 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 1: twenty five times zero still zero at the end of 424 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:04,159 Speaker 1: the day, and that's kind of what the penalties are 425 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:07,399 Speaker 1: for US. I like the math analogy multiplication. I love it, 426 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:10,400 Speaker 1: very nice. Time zero. Well, I'll go with my piece 427 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:15,200 Speaker 1: of positivity. I'm actually kind of gonna go a little 428 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 1: not on a limb here, and I'll feel but a 429 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:22,400 Speaker 1: lot of offseason moves bringing a lot of guys this year, 430 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:24,919 Speaker 1: but low key. One of the best ones I think 431 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 1: we realized this week may have been that trade for 432 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:32,400 Speaker 1: Mason Cole. We traded away a six round pick for Cole, 433 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 1: who stepped in for Bradberry who was out last week 434 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:37,680 Speaker 1: on the COVID nineteen list. And I think the one 435 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:39,680 Speaker 1: thing that we learned in this is if you don't 436 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:42,680 Speaker 1: say an offensive lineman's name, it usually means he's doing 437 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 1: something right, and no one has talked about Mason Cole 438 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:49,119 Speaker 1: and not saying that that's a good or bad thing. 439 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 1: I just think that the ability to seamlessly step up 440 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:55,200 Speaker 1: when your numbers called, as we just mentioned a second ago, 441 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:59,399 Speaker 1: is so important. And in Bradberry's absence, I feel like 442 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 1: he held own. I don't know, I'm not really into 443 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 1: like PFF score grades and things like that, but for me, 444 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:09,440 Speaker 1: like the effectiveness of the offense, nothing fell on his 445 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:13,640 Speaker 1: shoulders per se, and so it is nice to see 446 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 1: that payoff period, say through his hands off time. Is 447 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:22,679 Speaker 1: the nice thing for him is when they did bring 448 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:24,960 Speaker 1: him in, you're looking at him kind of kind of 449 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:27,840 Speaker 1: trying to figure out, like what's his role here. But 450 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:31,480 Speaker 1: the thing that was the big green light for me 451 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 1: when we did pick him up was the fact that 452 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:37,680 Speaker 1: he has multiple years of experience and knowing that it's 453 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:39,080 Speaker 1: not going to be too big for him if they 454 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:42,240 Speaker 1: do call him in. So given the situation, especially the 455 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:45,920 Speaker 1: COVID situation that happened, having him step in there, you're 456 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:48,080 Speaker 1: kind of raising an eyebrow saying we haven't really seen 457 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 1: him work with everybody else here, especially the starters, very much, 458 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 1: and to have that be pretty dang seamless was very 459 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:59,080 Speaker 1: encouraging experience. Helps sure as happy as people would have 460 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 1: been to see why Ables get his first start. I 461 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 1: think they're pleased with Mason Cole. You know, if you 462 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:06,119 Speaker 1: don't have to start them and you can let them develop, 463 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:07,479 Speaker 1: and you can let them get to know the game, 464 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:09,200 Speaker 1: and you're not throw them into the fire that we've 465 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:12,200 Speaker 1: also seen, you know a lot of good things from that, 466 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:15,400 Speaker 1: And speaking of guys that are really coming into their 467 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 1: own and stepping up when there are others down, let's 468 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 1: talk about armand Watts. This is going to be our 469 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:26,960 Speaker 1: MVP guest in just a second. In the wake of injuries, 470 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 1: especially losing Michael Pierce, armand Watts has helped that blow 471 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 1: a little bit, lay a little bit easier. So here 472 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 1: we have our player guest of the week on MVP, 473 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:41,159 Speaker 1: m Watts Armed. How's it going, I'm good. How you 474 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 1: feeling after that game? I'm good. It was a lot 475 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:46,520 Speaker 1: of reps. So a lot of guys are feeling it 476 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 1: this week, but I think Coach is putting us in 477 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:50,680 Speaker 1: a good position this week to get our bodies back. 478 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:54,720 Speaker 1: Have you played in that many like in that number 479 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:57,879 Speaker 1: of minutes that many snaps in the NFL. No, I 480 00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:00,200 Speaker 1: don't believe. So in college you had to come full 481 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 1: of games replayed around forty five minutes on the field. Yeah, college, 482 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 1: I'm sure, but definitely, Um, in the NFL, I've never 483 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:09,440 Speaker 1: played that many snaps, getting that amount of snaps and 484 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:13,119 Speaker 1: then getting your first I guess full sack of the 485 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:16,480 Speaker 1: season against Lamar Jackson, Like, walk us through that because 486 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:18,359 Speaker 1: it's hard to get to the guy. But when you 487 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 1: get him, I'm sure it's got to be a good feeling. 488 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:22,920 Speaker 1: Yeah it is. Um, I gotta get credit to the 489 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:28,120 Speaker 1: defensive vans. Of course, our game plan was, um, containing 490 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 1: a guy like him, and UM, you know we were 491 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 1: gonna need some inside pass for us. So I knew, um, 492 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:35,360 Speaker 1: you know, I was gonna have to work quick moves 493 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 1: against those guards to get back there to him. Man, 494 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:39,200 Speaker 1: you know, when we get back there, you just gotta 495 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 1: treat him like a running back. You know, you can't 496 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 1: try to tack him like a quarterback. So I think 497 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:45,880 Speaker 1: that's what. Did he remind you of anybody that you've 498 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:50,800 Speaker 1: played before? No, I think yeah, I think Lamar he's 499 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 1: kind of in like a category of his own right now. 500 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:54,960 Speaker 1: For what he can do on the field for us 501 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:57,680 Speaker 1: running the ball and different dynamics he can do. I 502 00:24:57,800 --> 00:24:59,720 Speaker 1: talked to some of the defensive liman. They always say 503 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:02,159 Speaker 1: like like armand you know we all I asked him, like, 504 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 1: you know, what are some skill sets? And some guys 505 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 1: have right, so you know they say like when Stephen 506 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:10,399 Speaker 1: was here, you know he was strong, he locked you out. Daniel, 507 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:12,199 Speaker 1: he's really good with his hands. But one thing they 508 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:14,640 Speaker 1: said about you is like you're powerful, but you're really 509 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:16,879 Speaker 1: good with your hands also, and I'm sure that. I 510 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 1: mean for a fact, we know that that's key for 511 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:22,119 Speaker 1: for a defensive lineman. So being that good. I know 512 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 1: you got a basketball background. You strike me as a 513 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 1: point guard a guy that wanted to play point guard 514 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:30,159 Speaker 1: in high school. But how much this hands and you 515 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:32,720 Speaker 1: know your background of playing basketball I have to do 516 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 1: with your success against offensive woman. I think it's big. 517 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:40,200 Speaker 1: I played basketball all the way up until college, so 518 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:42,919 Speaker 1: I gotta give credit. You know, that's where I get 519 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:46,480 Speaker 1: some of my athletics ism from. You know, you get 520 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:49,720 Speaker 1: good feet out of doing stuff like that. So hands 521 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:51,119 Speaker 1: are huge. When you could do when you could be 522 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:54,640 Speaker 1: powerful and use your hands on the defensive line, especially inside. Um, 523 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 1: I think it's only gonna take your game to the 524 00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 1: next level. That's I was looking at some pictures like 525 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 1: you were aligning in high school that wore Advisor and 526 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 1: wore a vapor claps, So clearly you wanted to be 527 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 1: at like a point guard, right, Yeah. I was, to 528 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:08,720 Speaker 1: be honest, like, growing up, I always thought I was 529 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:10,960 Speaker 1: gonna be a basketball player, really, but it was like 530 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:14,160 Speaker 1: the more I got older, it was like my mom 531 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:16,200 Speaker 1: was like, all right, maybe it's time for go to football, 532 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So I went out in 533 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 1: high school, gave it a try, and the rest of history. 534 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:24,959 Speaker 1: What did it click? I want to say I got 535 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 1: in the swing of things maybe like my sophomore year 536 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:29,960 Speaker 1: was like, okay, you know you put it in time, 537 00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:32,240 Speaker 1: you know, effort with your body statue, you know you 538 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:35,360 Speaker 1: could get good at it. Even then, I still wanted 539 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:38,239 Speaker 1: to play basketball. But the more I developed, the more 540 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 1: I got better at football, I was like, Okay, I'm 541 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:42,680 Speaker 1: gonna start putting my focus on this and see where 542 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:45,040 Speaker 1: it takes me. Might be hadn't played a snap out 543 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:48,479 Speaker 1: football to high school. Correct. Yeah, wow, that's very interested. 544 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 1: What made your mom think that that was kind of 545 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 1: like the route you should go. I was always bigger 546 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:58,119 Speaker 1: than everybody in my grade. You know, I was always taller, 547 00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 1: bigger wise, so you know, she was like, Um, she 548 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:03,879 Speaker 1: always kind of pushed me to play football when I 549 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:05,480 Speaker 1: was younger. You know, I would try out here and there, 550 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:08,560 Speaker 1: but I just never stuck stuck with it. Uh, you know, 551 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:11,280 Speaker 1: I just love basketball, and um, you know, one day 552 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:13,440 Speaker 1: she pretty much I don't want to say she's forced me, 553 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:16,359 Speaker 1: but she almost forced me. So I went out there 554 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:18,440 Speaker 1: and made the best of it, and uh it took 555 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:20,880 Speaker 1: me in. So it's like you six three two ninety, yeah, 556 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:26,240 Speaker 1: playing basketball. Mom always knows that, Yeah, she does. So 557 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:29,840 Speaker 1: um the older guy was like, you know, you gotta 558 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:32,240 Speaker 1: be like six ten, like to be that type of 559 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:34,720 Speaker 1: size in the NBA. So I was like, all right, So, 560 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,240 Speaker 1: I mean I know Saint Louis is a basketball city, 561 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,199 Speaker 1: and I know you went to school with Patrick McCall. 562 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 1: I mean, he works hard, but I always said like 563 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:45,680 Speaker 1: he wanted the luckiest dudes every year, want three rings 564 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:48,159 Speaker 1: in his first three seasons. Yeah, me and Pat we 565 00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:50,560 Speaker 1: actually grew up right down the street from each other, 566 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,720 Speaker 1: so we're still close to this day. But Yeah, we 567 00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 1: got guys like Pat Brad Bill, Jason Tatum. Uh, you know, 568 00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:00,359 Speaker 1: it's just a basketball sitting. Those guys are doing some 569 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:02,480 Speaker 1: good stuff in the NBA. You still keep up with it. 570 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:05,480 Speaker 1: You watch a lot of NBA and I do, you know, 571 00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:07,920 Speaker 1: I do just because of you know, like I said, 572 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:10,040 Speaker 1: I'm from Saint Louis, so you know, I'm not an 573 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:12,439 Speaker 1: everyday type of basketball guy, but I definitely keep up 574 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:14,960 Speaker 1: with it. A lot of what the success of this 575 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 1: team is is based off of what the defensive line 576 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:21,440 Speaker 1: does and Michael Parris not being gonna lineup going down, 577 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 1: you had to step up in a key role. How 578 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:25,920 Speaker 1: has he helped you get to this point? I know 579 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 1: you've been in the league three years, he's new here, 580 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:30,919 Speaker 1: but having a guy with that experience and coming from 581 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:32,879 Speaker 1: a new team with a fresh perspective, how has that 582 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 1: helped you? He's been He's been an awesome alone this 583 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:39,280 Speaker 1: whole journey of since he's got here. Really, Uh, you know, 584 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 1: he wasn't in camp much, so I had to step 585 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:43,920 Speaker 1: in and he was always giving me pointers on what 586 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 1: I could do and you know what I was good 587 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 1: at and just focus on that and um, you know, 588 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:50,760 Speaker 1: I know it was gonna be a challenge stepping up 589 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 1: to the plate starting this many games. I didn't know 590 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:55,760 Speaker 1: how many games it was gonna be, but I knew 591 00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:57,160 Speaker 1: I was gonna have to step in and play a 592 00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:00,040 Speaker 1: big part. So, you know, I always tell myself, I 593 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:01,360 Speaker 1: never you get the opportunity. You just got to make 594 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 1: the most of it. And like you said, it's my 595 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:05,920 Speaker 1: year three, so it's a big year for me. Yeah, 596 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:10,200 Speaker 1: how do you feel like you've been playing? I'm kind 597 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:11,800 Speaker 1: of I'm kind of like a humble guy, so I 598 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,680 Speaker 1: don't like, I don't live off highs and lows. You know, 599 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:18,640 Speaker 1: I'm just always focused on that day and what's ahead 600 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:20,800 Speaker 1: of me. But you know, from what I've been seeing, 601 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:22,240 Speaker 1: and you know, of course what i've been doing on 602 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:23,880 Speaker 1: the field, I've been feeling like I've been doing a 603 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:26,120 Speaker 1: good job. Do you feel like it's different for you 604 00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:28,000 Speaker 1: right now, like you've kind of turned a quarter and 605 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:32,320 Speaker 1: just your comfortability out there? Oh? Yeah, most definitely. Uh, 606 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 1: Like I said, easy year three. So really for me, 607 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:36,960 Speaker 1: it was like I want to show coaches that each year, 608 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:39,760 Speaker 1: you know, he's getting better and better, and I think 609 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 1: this year was that year I needed to show that 610 00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:45,240 Speaker 1: you got to play that. I mean we got a 611 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 1: few because we watch every game and I know you're 612 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:49,120 Speaker 1: in the moment, but do you have a play that 613 00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:51,720 Speaker 1: stands out to you that you know it was a 614 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:54,280 Speaker 1: moment for you you're like, Okay, like I can do this, 615 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:56,160 Speaker 1: and I can do this at a high level. Yeah, 616 00:29:57,000 --> 00:30:02,080 Speaker 1: probably the Carolina game and sack against U darn sand Yeah, 617 00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 1: the force fumble. That was kind of a a momentum 618 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:08,560 Speaker 1: play for the game. And um, you know I was 619 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:10,680 Speaker 1: good and pass rushed that game, so it was like, 620 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:12,560 Speaker 1: you know, if I can stay consistent at this, then 621 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:14,960 Speaker 1: you know, it's just this is who you are, so 622 00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 1: you need to stick with it and keep getting better 623 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:19,280 Speaker 1: and better. It's one of those moments you probably won't 624 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:22,560 Speaker 1: forget time. Yeah, we won't forget either because I was big. 625 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:25,680 Speaker 1: I was a key moment and just stepping up in 626 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:28,239 Speaker 1: those key moments that's how people remember players. I mean, 627 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:30,959 Speaker 1: you can get a sack on second down and then 628 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:32,840 Speaker 1: they convert the third down. It's like all right, well 629 00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:36,080 Speaker 1: this is a brand new drive. But like actually stepping 630 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:39,040 Speaker 1: up in those moments, um, Like what what do you 631 00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 1: attribute that too? I would say this off season, Um, 632 00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:47,040 Speaker 1: before this season started. I had sat down with Dre 633 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:50,360 Speaker 1: and he was just telling me, Um, to be where 634 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:52,000 Speaker 1: I wanted to be. You know, I was gonna have 635 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:55,440 Speaker 1: to take a lot of sacrifices this offseason for spending 636 00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:59,200 Speaker 1: more money on my body and um being in shape 637 00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:02,600 Speaker 1: come camp. Uh, And I actually took that to heart, 638 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 1: so you know, I did sacrifice. UM actually came down 639 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 1: here and worked out with some of the coaches. Uh, 640 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:10,800 Speaker 1: spend more money back home. So I was going back 641 00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:13,160 Speaker 1: and forth between here and home doing workouts and stuff, 642 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:16,200 Speaker 1: and I just think I was more focused and it's 643 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:19,520 Speaker 1: definitely starting to pay off. So I'm happy with the results. 644 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:21,720 Speaker 1: I mean, how great does it feel, though, to like 645 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:25,760 Speaker 1: have that what you put in the offseason show up 646 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:30,240 Speaker 1: on the field right now. It's big. You know. Sometimes yeah, 647 00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:32,320 Speaker 1: it don't even hit you right then and there, but 648 00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:36,760 Speaker 1: to see it payoff and how it's paying off. You know. 649 00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:39,200 Speaker 1: I wasn't even expecting to come in and play nose guard, 650 00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:42,960 Speaker 1: to be honest, but Mike went down and I stepped up, 651 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:46,200 Speaker 1: and uh, just to be able to, you know, do 652 00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:48,040 Speaker 1: what I could do at the nose guard is big 653 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:49,960 Speaker 1: in the NFL. A lot of people don't realize that. 654 00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:51,640 Speaker 1: So you know, I was just trying to make the 655 00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:55,080 Speaker 1: best of man and always say investments always have a return. 656 00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:58,720 Speaker 1: The fact that you're invested in your body, invested in 657 00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:01,720 Speaker 1: you know, your how you want to be. It's great 658 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:03,720 Speaker 1: to see the return. I know the returns always don't 659 00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:05,800 Speaker 1: come when you want them to, but yeah, it's it's 660 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:08,280 Speaker 1: it's always you gotta be patient with the NFL. You 661 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:11,600 Speaker 1: know that was a six round draft pick, so patient 662 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:13,840 Speaker 1: was from day one. You know. I know I wasn't 663 00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:15,800 Speaker 1: gonna come out there and play automatically. You got to 664 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:19,040 Speaker 1: earn so, like you said, to see your investments payoffics, 665 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:21,360 Speaker 1: it's like you've been on yourself. Really yeah, and that's 666 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:23,360 Speaker 1: what I did, is our season just put it all 667 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:26,200 Speaker 1: on me. What do you like about the nose garden? 668 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:29,320 Speaker 1: You said maybe it wasn't like you didn't think that 669 00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:30,800 Speaker 1: was gonna be your role, But what have you liked 670 00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:34,520 Speaker 1: about playing that position so far? To me? I like 671 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:37,600 Speaker 1: it because I think Drey trust me to play both 672 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:40,280 Speaker 1: nose and three. And when I can play the nose 673 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:42,200 Speaker 1: very good, it opens up the doors for a lot 674 00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:45,440 Speaker 1: more things. Being a nose guard, you get a lot 675 00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:50,200 Speaker 1: of double teams. A lot of teams don't, um expect 676 00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:52,200 Speaker 1: nose guards to be able to pass rush. You know, 677 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:54,040 Speaker 1: it's a few other minutes league. They can do it, 678 00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:55,880 Speaker 1: and they're really get at it. So when you can 679 00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:57,720 Speaker 1: get a nose guard that can rush the pass, it's 680 00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:01,640 Speaker 1: always a plus. You hit on a cute before as patience, 681 00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:04,360 Speaker 1: And I know, fishing is something that you like to 682 00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:06,880 Speaker 1: do and patient takes a lot of patience, and that 683 00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:11,520 Speaker 1: patience I don't have and I feel like Tatum doesn't 684 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:15,240 Speaker 1: have it either. But how does you know fishing and 685 00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:18,200 Speaker 1: balancing yourself off the field, how how do you think 686 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:20,680 Speaker 1: that's helped you on the field, especially knowing that you 687 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:24,080 Speaker 1: took more time to get your body right for this year. Yeah, 688 00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:26,719 Speaker 1: I think sometimes it could be hard, but it's all 689 00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:28,720 Speaker 1: a mental game at the end of the day. Um, 690 00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:32,680 Speaker 1: you know, I'm going into college. I didn't really start 691 00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:34,920 Speaker 1: into my senior year, my fifth year of college, so 692 00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:39,440 Speaker 1: I battered that virtually all through college. Um, you know, 693 00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:42,720 Speaker 1: I finally got that opportunity and took off. And so 694 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:45,720 Speaker 1: really my whole career has been about being patient and 695 00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:47,640 Speaker 1: when the opportunity to come, make the most of it. So, 696 00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:51,640 Speaker 1: you know, I'm never in a rush to see the results. 697 00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:54,840 Speaker 1: You know, everything happens when they's supposed to happen, But 698 00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:56,400 Speaker 1: you just got to make sure that you step up 699 00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:58,640 Speaker 1: to the play when that time comes at the end 700 00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:02,320 Speaker 1: of the day. So I'm big on patience in adversity 701 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:05,560 Speaker 1: crazy speaking speaking of the fishing, though, I wanted to 702 00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:08,520 Speaker 1: ask you, you know, be you know, you kind of 703 00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:10,759 Speaker 1: sounds like you haven't really fished up here before we 704 00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:14,239 Speaker 1: tried ice fishing. I haven't tried ice fishing. You heard 705 00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:15,920 Speaker 1: how they do that here? I do. I had a 706 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:18,560 Speaker 1: guy was to college with Frank Rag now he's actually 707 00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:23,360 Speaker 1: from Minnesota. Yeah, and um, he would be ice fishing 708 00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:25,520 Speaker 1: all the time on his social media and I was 709 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:28,040 Speaker 1: thanking it. But uh, yeah, I went fishing a few 710 00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:29,680 Speaker 1: times up here when I first got here. I went 711 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:34,960 Speaker 1: with LJ. Louville Joseph Um some fish. Yeah would call me. Uh, 712 00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:37,200 Speaker 1: took me out on a canoe and show me something 713 00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:39,879 Speaker 1: so nice. Is this your first time playing against LJA 714 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:42,520 Speaker 1: since he's been Like, how do I mean? I'm sure 715 00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:44,560 Speaker 1: he's been a huge influence on your career too. So 716 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:47,560 Speaker 1: like I didn't get my opportunity my rookie until he 717 00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:50,480 Speaker 1: went down. Uh, and then I had that big game 718 00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:53,560 Speaker 1: against Dallas. So you know, he showed me the blueprint 719 00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:56,400 Speaker 1: ever since I got here. He showed me what I 720 00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:59,239 Speaker 1: needed to do and don't do. And Uh, he was 721 00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:02,239 Speaker 1: a great mentor for sure. Speaking of mentors, you talked 722 00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:04,319 Speaker 1: a little bit about Andre Patterson and something he said 723 00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:06,640 Speaker 1: last week kind of resonated with me, so I wanted 724 00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:08,879 Speaker 1: to get your thoughts on that. He said, you guys 725 00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:12,520 Speaker 1: have to stop trying not to lose games and start 726 00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:15,800 Speaker 1: earning the win, going for the win. Is that just 727 00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:18,480 Speaker 1: a difference in mindset when you're in those moments, like 728 00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:22,080 Speaker 1: in these close games that you've been in literally every week. Yeah, 729 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:25,359 Speaker 1: I think it definitely is. When you consistently in close 730 00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:28,400 Speaker 1: games like that, I think sometimes we might panic and 731 00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:31,160 Speaker 1: be like, Okay, well let's not lose this one. Let's 732 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:33,759 Speaker 1: not make this mistake, let's not do this, and so 733 00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:36,600 Speaker 1: you know, the coaches are trying to help us get 734 00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:39,239 Speaker 1: to the mentality where you know we're gonna win this 735 00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:41,640 Speaker 1: or the outcome is going to be different. You know, 736 00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:44,040 Speaker 1: we expect to win. We have to expect to win 737 00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:46,920 Speaker 1: it and not expect to you know, panic and say Hey, 738 00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:49,080 Speaker 1: let's not do something to lose this game. All right, 739 00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:51,520 Speaker 1: I'll get you out of here with this, because we've 740 00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:56,000 Speaker 1: played so many different types of teams from just the 741 00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:58,759 Speaker 1: last few weeks. The Lions, who still trying to figure 742 00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:00,520 Speaker 1: some things out, but the Panthers, I want to run 743 00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:02,480 Speaker 1: the ball to playing with our Christian McCaffrey. So you 744 00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:05,439 Speaker 1: got a young quarterback to Dallas. Cowboy's a second string 745 00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:08,759 Speaker 1: quarterback to last week arguably the most dynamic runner in 746 00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:11,120 Speaker 1: the history of the game. Now we got a young 747 00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:12,879 Speaker 1: quarterback who's on pace to be one of the most 748 00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:16,280 Speaker 1: dynamic passers in the history of the game. What changes 749 00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:19,760 Speaker 1: for you when playing a Lamar Jackson versus Justin Herbert? 750 00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:22,759 Speaker 1: I would say, of course, there are two different type 751 00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:26,759 Speaker 1: of players. You know, Herbert, he could be mobile too, 752 00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:28,920 Speaker 1: but not, of course, not as mobile as Lamar. So 753 00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:33,040 Speaker 1: I would say to when you're facing the guy like Herbert, 754 00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:35,440 Speaker 1: you gotta affect him in some type of way. Of course, 755 00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:37,320 Speaker 1: he could throw the ball anywhere on the field, So 756 00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:40,360 Speaker 1: the more you make him uncomfortable, the better it is 757 00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:43,239 Speaker 1: gonna be for us. So pass Russ definitely gonna be 758 00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:46,040 Speaker 1: a big emphasis for us this week and you know, 759 00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:48,839 Speaker 1: my objective is to get to him and make him uncomfortable, 760 00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:50,680 Speaker 1: and I just want to say hats off on the 761 00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:56,120 Speaker 1: Halloween entrance Marshmallow, big fan of music. Yeah, I actually 762 00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:58,320 Speaker 1: I found that mask at the last minute. It's like 763 00:36:58,400 --> 00:36:59,920 Speaker 1: one of the only ones they had left. I'm like, 764 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,360 Speaker 1: you know, let me grab it, and then everyone confused 765 00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:05,919 Speaker 1: you for Yeah, I figured they're gonna have a hard 766 00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:08,200 Speaker 1: time figuring out who it was. It's kind of part 767 00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:10,480 Speaker 1: of the fun though, right, ye are you big Halloween guy, 768 00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:14,120 Speaker 1: big Halloween costumer? Um? The older I get out, you younger, 769 00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:15,799 Speaker 1: why I didn't do it as much, but the odor 770 00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:17,799 Speaker 1: is like we'd get the more fun. Yeah, you start 771 00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:21,000 Speaker 1: putting things perspectives like it's actually fun after let me 772 00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:23,719 Speaker 1: do something different. So very nice. Well, thank you so 773 00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:26,480 Speaker 1: much to armand Watts for joining us today on this 774 00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:31,320 Speaker 1: episode of MVP. Thank you a big thanks to armand 775 00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:34,600 Speaker 1: Watts for joining the podcast today. We always love when 776 00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:36,440 Speaker 1: we can get to know the guys who may not 777 00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:38,959 Speaker 1: be at the podium every week just a little bit better. 778 00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:42,120 Speaker 1: They may not be the biggest names yet, but there's 779 00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:43,920 Speaker 1: so much more to know about them, and I love 780 00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:45,920 Speaker 1: getting to know them. And kind of getting to know 781 00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:51,640 Speaker 1: their personalities. Is in Arkansas or Arkansas? Oh definitely Arkansas, Arkansas, 782 00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:54,279 Speaker 1: I said, Arkansas ARKI saus the first sixteen years in 783 00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:57,000 Speaker 1: Hollow You said, what did you say, Arkansas sauce. Yeah, 784 00:37:57,120 --> 00:38:04,080 Speaker 1: sauce know any better? You think it's funny both? Oh yeah, yeah, 785 00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:08,680 Speaker 1: He's got a lot of sauces in this game. Okay, Well, 786 00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:10,360 Speaker 1: I think that the Vikings are going to need to 787 00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:12,040 Speaker 1: bring the sauce this weekend when they go on the 788 00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:14,640 Speaker 1: road against a five and three Chargers team who currently 789 00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:17,640 Speaker 1: leads the AFC West, the third best team in the 790 00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:20,400 Speaker 1: AFC and the Vikings. We'll play it so fi for 791 00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:22,239 Speaker 1: the first time ever. And you know, if they go 792 00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:24,239 Speaker 1: on a giant ten game win streak, you never know 793 00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:27,719 Speaker 1: might be playing there in February. Start now, let's start 794 00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:30,479 Speaker 1: the campaign now. And so in order for that to happen, 795 00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:32,000 Speaker 1: they need to get a win this week. And so 796 00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:34,759 Speaker 1: we're going to get to know this matchup a little 797 00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:37,040 Speaker 1: bit better by playing one thing we're excited about and 798 00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:39,359 Speaker 1: one thing we're nervous for. So, Gabe, take it away 799 00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:41,720 Speaker 1: with the first thing you're excited about for this matchup, 800 00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:44,399 Speaker 1: the one thing that I'm very excited about this week 801 00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:49,040 Speaker 1: is our run game. Right. This is a Chargers run 802 00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:53,319 Speaker 1: defense as given up eighty plus yards in a run 803 00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:55,319 Speaker 1: game to a running back in five out of their 804 00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:58,440 Speaker 1: eight games this year. We're starting to pick up our 805 00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:00,719 Speaker 1: run game. We got one hundred our rusher and two 806 00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:03,319 Speaker 1: out of our last three games, Dalvin Cook has been 807 00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:05,839 Speaker 1: on fire as of late. The sixty six yard run 808 00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:09,920 Speaker 1: last week shows that we can get the ball downhill effectively, 809 00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:12,560 Speaker 1: and I think against this run defense of the La Chargers, 810 00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:15,000 Speaker 1: that is going to be the game plan. Linval Joseph, 811 00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:17,239 Speaker 1: he's been here a few years. He's with the Chargers now, 812 00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:20,200 Speaker 1: but when you're Andre Pattison, I'm sure they're talking to him, 813 00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:21,880 Speaker 1: how do you best attacked him? When you look at 814 00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:25,760 Speaker 1: him on film? And granted, Linval Joseph is a monster 815 00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:27,440 Speaker 1: in the middle, so there's going to be a lot 816 00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:29,960 Speaker 1: of opportunities for us to tramp him since he likes 817 00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:31,960 Speaker 1: to get up filled a little bit and get the 818 00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:34,919 Speaker 1: ball downhill and get it to the second level our 819 00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:38,520 Speaker 1: offensive line. Our run game is best when we're getting 820 00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:40,719 Speaker 1: our guards to the second level, when our guards are 821 00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:43,840 Speaker 1: blocking their linebackers and Dalvin cook is untouched until he 822 00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:48,600 Speaker 1: gets to their linebackers. That's when we are at our best. 823 00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:50,720 Speaker 1: And I think we'll be at our best on Sunday 824 00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:54,000 Speaker 1: when playing these LA Chargers at the home of Super 825 00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:56,080 Speaker 1: Bowl fifty two. Yeah, you know, and they've got they've 826 00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:58,680 Speaker 1: got several injuries as well on defense that was very 827 00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:02,000 Speaker 1: apparent against the Eagles team. This team, this Chargers team 828 00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:04,680 Speaker 1: along a league worse one hundred and sixty one rushing 829 00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:08,279 Speaker 1: yard's per game to your point, So it's literally the 830 00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:11,359 Speaker 1: worst defense run defense in the league. So I think 831 00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:14,360 Speaker 1: that they need to have a day. Huh, were like 832 00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:17,000 Speaker 1: way overdue for a day, the third against the past 833 00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:20,640 Speaker 1: and thirty seconds against the run, so like I think, honestly, honestly, 834 00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:23,319 Speaker 1: that's kind of been the story of the past three weeks. Yeah, 835 00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:25,839 Speaker 1: this Baltimore Ravens team, they were like the third worse 836 00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:27,880 Speaker 1: against the run, I mean third worse against the past. 837 00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:30,239 Speaker 1: So it's like the ying and the yang. Okay, what 838 00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:32,080 Speaker 1: are we going to attack? Can we run the ball 839 00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:34,000 Speaker 1: effectively now? Because we haven't been at throw the ball 840 00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:37,080 Speaker 1: effectively on the Cowboys and the Ravens who were really 841 00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:39,479 Speaker 1: bad against the pass d so, but they were without 842 00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:43,240 Speaker 1: their starting cornerbacks last week, Michael Davis out with the hamstring, 843 00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:46,239 Speaker 1: Asante Samuel Sideline with the concussion, So Samuel if he 844 00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:49,080 Speaker 1: passes protocol, well obviously be back. And then Tevin Campbell 845 00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:52,239 Speaker 1: played some corner last week and he left the game. 846 00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:56,879 Speaker 1: So Ryan Smith maybe the starting towards ACL on Sunday. Oh, 847 00:40:57,040 --> 00:41:00,480 Speaker 1: there you go. So they're having a yes. So so 848 00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:04,360 Speaker 1: hopefully that that run game will look great on Sunday 849 00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:08,600 Speaker 1: and really kickstart this entire offense. We talk about sustaining 850 00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:11,120 Speaker 1: drives and there you go. So, Jay, what is the 851 00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:14,000 Speaker 1: one thing you're excited about in this matchup? I'm going 852 00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:16,160 Speaker 1: to go out on a little bit of a limb here, 853 00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:18,960 Speaker 1: but I'm going to say, actually, the further development and 854 00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:23,440 Speaker 1: solidification of the Special Team's unit. Not only not only 855 00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:26,160 Speaker 1: can a Wongu being able to step up and do 856 00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:27,760 Speaker 1: what he did last week, which was a nice spark, 857 00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:31,680 Speaker 1: but Barry has been doing a lot of as Greg 858 00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:35,080 Speaker 1: Colean was say, coffin corner kicks, dropping him inside the ten. 859 00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:38,080 Speaker 1: And then you've had Greg Joseph who's been pretty dank 860 00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:40,279 Speaker 1: solid so far. So it's just being able to see 861 00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:43,520 Speaker 1: those guys, hopefully continue to progress and you know, put 862 00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:45,839 Speaker 1: us in situations that it can either help us win 863 00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:50,200 Speaker 1: or actually get us a win. And so hopefully those 864 00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:53,080 Speaker 1: guys can continue to progress, and I'm very excited to 865 00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:56,000 Speaker 1: see that area that has been a thorn in our 866 00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:59,000 Speaker 1: side for so long solidify. You think they'll actually kicked 867 00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:01,279 Speaker 1: the cana wongo this week? If I'm them, why would you? 868 00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:03,800 Speaker 1: But that just guarantees you're getting the ball to twenty 869 00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:07,000 Speaker 1: five every play. So for me, that's great, that's fine, 870 00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:09,480 Speaker 1: stuck us on the twenty five versus inside the twenty. 871 00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:14,279 Speaker 1: But I'm if I'm them, you know, one one time 872 00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:16,440 Speaker 1: does not make a trend, but at the same point, 873 00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:19,040 Speaker 1: it gets you a little nervous. So we'll just have 874 00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:21,280 Speaker 1: to see if they make any adjustments. They rank eighteenth 875 00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:25,160 Speaker 1: and kickoff yardage allowed around twenty two yards a game. 876 00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:28,120 Speaker 1: And when we're talking about putting our offense in the 877 00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:31,919 Speaker 1: best position, can a wongu all the way? And that's 878 00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:35,160 Speaker 1: been the hardest part about him is we've wanted to 879 00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:37,160 Speaker 1: see him on the field, given the injury and everything 880 00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:40,120 Speaker 1: that he had, the lack of preseason, the fact that 881 00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:42,399 Speaker 1: they were now able to get him into the game 882 00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:45,000 Speaker 1: and just kind of release the beast. Hopefully this is 883 00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:46,800 Speaker 1: going to turn into more of a trend. I'm so 884 00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:49,840 Speaker 1: happy that like the world got to see can A 885 00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:52,640 Speaker 1: Wongu because we've been highing him all training camp. Granny. 886 00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:55,800 Speaker 1: He got hurt the first preseason game. But everyone remember 887 00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:58,279 Speaker 1: like during training camp and mini camp, everybody's like, dude, 888 00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:00,520 Speaker 1: this guy's fast, like he can run. Might be we're 889 00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:02,480 Speaker 1: doing like who would be on your team if you 890 00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:04,680 Speaker 1: had to run a four by four? And literally everyone 891 00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:07,560 Speaker 1: had Danshasena and Cane Wonga. So the fact putting all 892 00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:09,880 Speaker 1: the players, including all the players, and the fact that 893 00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:12,960 Speaker 1: he actually was able to show the world why everyone 894 00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:15,759 Speaker 1: in this building to sound him that that's that's exciting, man, 895 00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:18,719 Speaker 1: very very exciting. Well, I should have checked with you 896 00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:20,879 Speaker 1: guys before we did our two exciting things. You didn't 897 00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:22,439 Speaker 1: go on that five limb. It was on my limb. 898 00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:26,480 Speaker 1: I'm just teasing. UM. So I will call an audible 899 00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:28,919 Speaker 1: and I will try and scramble and do my best 900 00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:33,719 Speaker 1: to um call dial up a good play. Um. Well, 901 00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:35,879 Speaker 1: I'll be honest. We did this take a second ago, 902 00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:38,759 Speaker 1: and I definitely said a bear because that's how week 903 00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:40,960 Speaker 1: Cajuns say. It despite the R being in the middle 904 00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:43,600 Speaker 1: of the name. But you know, I know that he's 905 00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:47,040 Speaker 1: very he's I know that he is very efficient. He 906 00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:50,319 Speaker 1: had eleven consecutive passes in the game last week, which 907 00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:53,560 Speaker 1: is just insane. But I think this defense is ready 908 00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:56,759 Speaker 1: for this. I'm excited for the return of Michael Pierce potentially. 909 00:43:57,160 --> 00:43:58,839 Speaker 1: I know he was he really wanted to get back 910 00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:01,560 Speaker 1: in the game last week. I'm excited to see how 911 00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:04,000 Speaker 1: this defense matches up because they really have hung with 912 00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:08,000 Speaker 1: a lot of these really good offenses over the last 913 00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:11,279 Speaker 1: you know, not eight games, and so I just want 914 00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:13,279 Speaker 1: to see them continue to be effective. I think that 915 00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:16,840 Speaker 1: the offense, they score thirty points per game on average 916 00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:19,759 Speaker 1: on the road, and so for me, I'm excited to 917 00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:21,680 Speaker 1: see this matchup just to see what we can do 918 00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:26,160 Speaker 1: against the raining NFL Rickie of the Year, which I 919 00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:29,759 Speaker 1: know is a soft spot and a player of the week, yeah, 920 00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:33,440 Speaker 1: because of Justin Jefferson should have gotten it. So he's 921 00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:37,160 Speaker 1: known for being a one, two, three step throw, like 922 00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:40,040 Speaker 1: just getting the ball out quick. I think the biggest 923 00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:42,600 Speaker 1: thing against him is going to be trying to mask 924 00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:46,800 Speaker 1: whatever defense you're actually running and trying to kind of 925 00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:48,759 Speaker 1: get him twisting in his own head in order to 926 00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:51,680 Speaker 1: make some mistakes there. I think one thing we've proven 927 00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:54,000 Speaker 1: over the years is that young quarterbacks, we tend to 928 00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:57,200 Speaker 1: be able to force them into situations they don't want 929 00:44:57,200 --> 00:44:59,560 Speaker 1: to be and hopefully here with Justin we can do 930 00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:02,279 Speaker 1: a s thing. But as big as he is, as 931 00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:04,080 Speaker 1: strong of an arm as he's got, the fact that 932 00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:05,920 Speaker 1: he's as good of a player as he is, as 933 00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:09,880 Speaker 1: quickly as he's been, I think, um, defensively, they're going 934 00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:11,600 Speaker 1: to have to try and mix him up as much 935 00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:13,840 Speaker 1: as possible just to keep him off balance. Otherwise he 936 00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:16,800 Speaker 1: can potentially shred us. Yeah, that's a great point. I 937 00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:20,600 Speaker 1: think he's a he's a better Sam Darnald. And Sam 938 00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:24,360 Speaker 1: Darnold we just flustered him with after three interceptions. I 939 00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:26,319 Speaker 1: would hope there are a lot of better Sam Darnold. Yeah. 940 00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:29,120 Speaker 1: I mean, but I can't say this on the record, 941 00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:31,680 Speaker 1: so I'm gonna just keep it as I think he 942 00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:36,759 Speaker 1: is a better Sam Darnald. And Sam Darnald has a 943 00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:40,160 Speaker 1: big arm, can throw, very inconsistent. I think Justin Herbert 944 00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:42,520 Speaker 1: big arm can throw. He's a consistent thrower, but if 945 00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:44,759 Speaker 1: you put pressure in his face, he doesn't know how 946 00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:48,200 Speaker 1: to handle that, and that that will I think that 947 00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:52,160 Speaker 1: will go well against this Minnesota Vikings defense. After watching 948 00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:54,920 Speaker 1: the Ravens film when the Chargers play the Ravens, who 949 00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:56,880 Speaker 1: liked the blitz a lot and show Justin Herbert a 950 00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:59,879 Speaker 1: lot of different coverages. That game ended in thirty four 951 00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:02,919 Speaker 1: to six in the Baltimore Ravens win. So I'm sure 952 00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:05,560 Speaker 1: this Minnesota Vikings defense go about that. Yeah, that was 953 00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:07,839 Speaker 1: kind of everyone was like, what is going on? I'm 954 00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:11,160 Speaker 1: sure Andre Patterson, Zimmer both Zimmers are watching a lot 955 00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:13,320 Speaker 1: of that film, a lot of that film. Yeah, So 956 00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:15,960 Speaker 1: I think it's really exciting to hopefully get after a 957 00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:18,200 Speaker 1: new young quarterback. I like to prove them all wrong. 958 00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:21,360 Speaker 1: It's always fun um and not to mention like again, 959 00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:23,919 Speaker 1: I know little more Jackson had one heck of a game, 960 00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:26,560 Speaker 1: but he looked uncomfortable in some situations and if you 961 00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:30,920 Speaker 1: can rattle them, you never know. So, okay, switching gears, 962 00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:33,840 Speaker 1: Let's talk a little bit about what about this matchup 963 00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:36,600 Speaker 1: makes us nervous, which I guess my last one was 964 00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:39,960 Speaker 1: kind of a nervous excitedness. So gave you and take 965 00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:42,600 Speaker 1: this one away. I think Dobbys are is their past 966 00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:46,879 Speaker 1: game and our past defense we are not the best 967 00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:48,680 Speaker 1: when it comes to past defense. You can look at 968 00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:51,279 Speaker 1: the stats and it'll show you everything you need to know. 969 00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:55,600 Speaker 1: And having a quarterback that is top five in passing 970 00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:58,799 Speaker 1: I think he's six in passing yards he has if 971 00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:01,799 Speaker 1: he had arguably the best game of his career last 972 00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:04,080 Speaker 1: week one hundred and twenty three pass rating. And then 973 00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:07,319 Speaker 1: you got Keenan Allen who is fifth and receiving yards, 974 00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:10,520 Speaker 1: and then Mike Williams, Jared Cook, Austin Ekeler, if you 975 00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:13,000 Speaker 1: want to add him to the mix. That are all 976 00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:16,560 Speaker 1: valuable weapons for this LA Chargers offense. And we're still 977 00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:18,840 Speaker 1: kind of depleted. Not sure if Rashid Brillian is going 978 00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:21,000 Speaker 1: to play this week. Patrick Peterson is not playing this week, 979 00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:24,120 Speaker 1: and if that's the case, now you're asking Chris Boyd 980 00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:27,320 Speaker 1: to step up alongside Cameron Danceler, who they've shown that 981 00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:30,080 Speaker 1: they can do it. But you got two still superstar 982 00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:34,800 Speaker 1: wide receivers against two young cornerbacks. So not to mention, 983 00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:38,520 Speaker 1: Harrison Smith isn't playing again this week, and granted Cameron 984 00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:42,400 Speaker 1: Bindam did play well, but those four guys against our secondary, 985 00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:44,680 Speaker 1: I'm sure Mike Zimmer, he's I'm not gonna say he's 986 00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:46,239 Speaker 1: gonna lose sleep over it, but he's gonna have to 987 00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:49,839 Speaker 1: work a little harder to stop those guys, especially playing 988 00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:52,279 Speaker 1: a team either throw the ball forty times per game, 989 00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:55,560 Speaker 1: which is fourth most in the NFL. So and if 990 00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:57,160 Speaker 1: you think about it, he's kind of had a little 991 00:47:57,160 --> 00:48:00,879 Speaker 1: bit of practice coaching up the young guns after last season. Yeah, 992 00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:03,000 Speaker 1: but I don't think we've we've played a team that 993 00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:07,239 Speaker 1: likes to throw the ball this much and we know 994 00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:09,759 Speaker 1: what's coming. We usually know that teams like to set 995 00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:13,960 Speaker 1: up the run first. That's not this La Charter's team. 996 00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:15,960 Speaker 1: That they'll set up the past to set up the run, 997 00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:17,920 Speaker 1: and then when you spread, everybody out there will run 998 00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:20,319 Speaker 1: the ball and gash you up the middle. So, yeah, 999 00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:22,239 Speaker 1: they throw the ball sixty five percent of the times, 1000 00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:25,799 Speaker 1: And I'm sure, yeah, I'm sure Carl Scott and Adam 1001 00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:27,600 Speaker 1: Zimmer and Mike Zimmer, they'll all be in the same 1002 00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:30,520 Speaker 1: meeting room for an extended amount of time this week. 1003 00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:32,920 Speaker 1: That is crazy. Sixty five percent of the time is 1004 00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:36,279 Speaker 1: something that you know, I think every football fan wants 1005 00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:38,320 Speaker 1: to see out of their team with a high flying 1006 00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:41,600 Speaker 1: exciting offense. So I'm sure people would like to see 1007 00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:45,800 Speaker 1: that here as a Vikings fan. Yeah, mister mister Herbert 1008 00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:48,480 Speaker 1: with over twenty yards already on the season so far, 1009 00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:51,439 Speaker 1: he is, he's been on fire. He's in the top 1010 00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:55,719 Speaker 1: ten on multiple categories this season. And he definitely has 1011 00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:58,759 Speaker 1: the weapons to throw too. So whether it's short game, 1012 00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:01,640 Speaker 1: long game, you know, Mike Williams airing it out, He's 1013 00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:04,560 Speaker 1: already got six touchdowns this season. They've got some some 1014 00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:07,279 Speaker 1: serious weapons on that offense, and so it's going to 1015 00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:08,960 Speaker 1: be it's gonna be a long day or at least 1016 00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:11,239 Speaker 1: a fun challenge for this defense. Yeah, I think it 1017 00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:12,719 Speaker 1: was a fun challenge. I think that's why I was 1018 00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:15,280 Speaker 1: excited about it, but just because I think the defense 1019 00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:18,759 Speaker 1: has played up to the level they need to every 1020 00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:22,920 Speaker 1: single week despite the missing but to Sarty, the injuries, 1021 00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:25,759 Speaker 1: despite the big names that are missing, And I don't know, 1022 00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:28,560 Speaker 1: I don't know why I'm like so excited about that 1023 00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:31,680 Speaker 1: part of it, because they just seem to always keep 1024 00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:35,560 Speaker 1: us in these games until the very end. We have 1025 00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:38,960 Speaker 1: not been even remotely close to being blown out. Okay, Jay, 1026 00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:43,840 Speaker 1: what are you nervous about? Shining Stars Spotlight on defensively 1027 00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:47,440 Speaker 1: for them. Joey Boa. Joey Bosa is known to fly 1028 00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:49,440 Speaker 1: around the field like crazy. He's already got four and 1029 00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:53,400 Speaker 1: a half sacks this season and two dozen tackles defensively. 1030 00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:55,000 Speaker 1: I think he's the guy that you have to key 1031 00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:57,480 Speaker 1: off of this weekend. Yeah, for sure, a lot of 1032 00:49:57,520 --> 00:49:59,359 Speaker 1: those I think two of those sacks have come from 1033 00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:02,760 Speaker 1: him rush the interiors out of exterior, so only Udo 1034 00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:06,480 Speaker 1: or Ezra Cleveland. That's going to be a matchup that 1035 00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:08,600 Speaker 1: they are going to want to expose. So we got 1036 00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:10,520 Speaker 1: to step up and make plays against an all pro 1037 00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:14,640 Speaker 1: defensive end. To that point, I'm nervous about sustaining drives. 1038 00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:17,839 Speaker 1: It's just every week I feel like it's gonna flip 1039 00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:21,240 Speaker 1: a switch. It's gonna happen, and the three and outs, 1040 00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:23,440 Speaker 1: the not holding on to the ball enough. I mean, 1041 00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:26,440 Speaker 1: the defense had to be on the field for eighty 1042 00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:28,480 Speaker 1: nine place, but I think it was a little higher 1043 00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:31,520 Speaker 1: because of penalties. Yeah, there are some that were obviously 1044 00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:35,520 Speaker 1: negated because of penalties. So I'm just nervous about sustaining drives. 1045 00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:38,040 Speaker 1: The Eagles were able to do have two lengthy scores 1046 00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:39,719 Speaker 1: to keep them in the game last week. I think 1047 00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:41,120 Speaker 1: that's kind of what you got to do. I think 1048 00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:43,640 Speaker 1: you got to consume the clock and I feel like 1049 00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:46,000 Speaker 1: that's the script every single week. Keep the offense on 1050 00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:49,160 Speaker 1: the field. So Vikings Vantage, what's going on this week? 1051 00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:52,480 Speaker 1: Gabe Henderson will have his interview with Matthew Coller. Are 1052 00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:54,680 Speaker 1: going to get an outside perspective coming in and Matthew 1053 00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:57,640 Speaker 1: is somebody that's definitely plugged in. Everyone, especially in this market, 1054 00:50:57,760 --> 00:50:59,000 Speaker 1: knows him and I think he's going to be a 1055 00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:01,600 Speaker 1: great addition to the show. So check it out Friday 1056 00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:04,240 Speaker 1: night on Cafe n at six thirty pm with Matthew 1057 00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:07,600 Speaker 1: Collor and Gabe Henderson. Alright, and then we've got opposing 1058 00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:11,440 Speaker 1: viewpoints this week with Chargers team reporter Hayley Ellwood get 1059 00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:13,520 Speaker 1: her insight leading up to the game. Of course, our 1060 00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:16,279 Speaker 1: team reporter Eric Smith on that as well. Plus we 1061 00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:19,719 Speaker 1: have Cameron Bainum for this week's Game Day Live interview. 1062 00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:22,719 Speaker 1: He's going to talk all about just how he was 1063 00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:25,399 Speaker 1: thrown into the fire and this amazing interception he made 1064 00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:28,600 Speaker 1: and just the transition from corner to safety in the 1065 00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:30,560 Speaker 1: league and things like that. So we're excited to have 1066 00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:33,759 Speaker 1: him as our guest this week, and the Vikings look 1067 00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:36,360 Speaker 1: to put those two tough losses in a row behind 1068 00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:38,560 Speaker 1: them in the rear view and get back into the 1069 00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:41,399 Speaker 1: win column. On Sunday, it is a three h five 1070 00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:44,520 Speaker 1: kick in Los Angeles as the Vikings face the Chargers 1071 00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:47,760 Speaker 1: this weekend. For Gabe Henderson, Jay Nelson, I'm Tatum Everett. 1072 00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:48,480 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening.