1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:02,560 Speaker 1: Hey, thanks for listening to the Two Pros and a 2 00:00:02,600 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 1: Cup of Joe podcast with LaVar Arrington, Jonas Knox and 3 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:08,760 Speaker 1: myself Brady Quinn. Make sure you catch us live weekdays 4 00:00:09,119 --> 00:00:12,039 Speaker 1: six to nine am Eastern or three am to six 5 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 1: am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. You can find your 6 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:17,480 Speaker 1: local station for the Two Pros and a Cup of 7 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:20,640 Speaker 1: Joe show over at Foxsports Radio dot com, or stream 8 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 1: us live every day on the iHeartRadio app by searching fsr's. 9 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 2: Give this PUI. You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. 10 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:33,159 Speaker 3: It is Two Pros and a Cup of Joe here 11 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:37,240 Speaker 3: on Fox Sports Radio one. 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Is that a different person? Different person? 27 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 4: Sure? 28 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 2: I thought you're the best person? Positive? All right, thank 29 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:30,959 Speaker 2: you man. Different persons the best? Hey man, ay man, 30 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:33,279 Speaker 2: change her here? That's not the same person. 31 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:38,960 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, never mind, never mind, shot premature. It should 32 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 4: have did a little bit more recount it happens. 33 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 2: That's good. Oh that's amazing. All right, all right? 34 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 3: Shall we uh shall we get into this fun little discussion? 35 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 1: Why do I feel like every time there's a segment, 36 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 1: you guys think I'm gonna go off on you guys 37 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 1: all like tiptoe into it. 38 00:01:57,080 --> 00:01:59,559 Speaker 3: I just can't wait for it. Like this is more 39 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 3: anticipation and excitement than anything. Because my guy Lincoln. 40 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 4: Riley was uh speaking of I mean, he is he 41 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:09,960 Speaker 4: is pooling rank, ain't he? 42 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:13,519 Speaker 2: Damn right? He is as he should as respect man. 43 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 2: That's right. Done amazing things there at USC. 44 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 3: Lincoln Riley was speaking to reporters in San Antonio where 45 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 3: they'll be playing TCU in the Alamobile coming up later 46 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 3: on and. 47 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:26,800 Speaker 2: Uh one USC that didn't want to play. 48 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 3: He had he had some thoughts about this Notre Dame 49 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 3: cancelation that we've discussed on the show. 50 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:35,640 Speaker 2: Let's take a listen. It's pretty simple. You know. 51 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 6: We've both worked for months to try to find a solution. 52 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:42,240 Speaker 6: Notre Dame was very vocal about the fact that they 53 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 6: would play us anytime, anywhere, and obviously there not having 54 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 6: a conference affiliation gives them an ability to be pretty 55 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 6: flexible with their scheduling. We went back Jenco and r. O. A. V. 56 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 6: Went back to Notre Dame roughly a couple of weeks 57 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 6: ago with the scenario and a proposal that would extend 58 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:04,959 Speaker 6: the series for the next two years, and we took 59 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:06,960 Speaker 6: a Notre Dame at their word that they would play 60 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 6: us anytime, anywhere. That proposal was rejected. Not only was 61 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 6: it rejected, five minutes after we got the call, it 62 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:16,920 Speaker 6: was announced that they had scheduled in another opponent, which 63 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 6: I'll give them credit, that might be the fastest scheduling 64 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:20,639 Speaker 6: acting college football history. 65 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 4: Ooh wow, that wasn't say grenade. 66 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 2: That was a shade rocket. I mean, you got to 67 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 2: take that tank gg what are you talking about? You 68 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:32,800 Speaker 2: got to take that. 69 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 4: What's he talking about you? I've said this publicly. 70 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 1: It's rich coming from the guy who basically questioned playing 71 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 1: the game in general back in twenty twenty four. And 72 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 1: it's rich coming from him because he couldn't beat Notre Dame. Really, 73 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 1: if you look at his record, I mean, I don't know, 74 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 1: Jonas like, is his record any better as a head 75 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 1: coach at USC than Clay Helton's? 76 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 4: Was not? Really, hasn't won a conference championship. 77 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 1: Didn't win in the pack, hasn't won one in the 78 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 1: Big Ten, dever run a Rose poll, hasn't made the playoff. 79 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 1: He has a worst winning percentage as the head coach 80 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 1: of SC than Clay Helton. 81 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 2: So it's it's funny to me. 82 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:18,919 Speaker 1: It's entertaining to me that you hear SC fans defend 83 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:23,239 Speaker 1: Lincoln Riley when in reality he's been a worse version 84 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:26,839 Speaker 1: of the guy you ran out of your program, and 85 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:30,839 Speaker 1: so you're defending these comments that he makes. And so 86 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:33,720 Speaker 1: here's what's interesting about it is this is a pr 87 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 1: campaign by Southern Cow and if you go through the timeline, 88 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:41,480 Speaker 1: of how this all started, why this robbery no longer exists. 89 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:46,039 Speaker 1: It really started with Lincoln Riley and his inability to 90 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:48,720 Speaker 1: want to compete. Back when he was at Oklahoma, had 91 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 1: the chance to go to LSU that didn't work out, 92 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 1: didn't want to go with Oklahoma to the SEC because 93 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 1: he wouldn't He knew they couldn't compete and he wouldn't compete. 94 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 1: So he goes to the Pac twelve for easier, greener pastures, 95 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 1: and he hasn't been able to win anything, and so 96 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 1: now he tries to make it easier on himself by 97 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:09,159 Speaker 1: not playing one of the most storied rivalries. One of 98 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:11,839 Speaker 1: the reasons why you go to SC, and as Petros 99 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:13,280 Speaker 1: has talked about, one of the reasons why it made 100 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:17,280 Speaker 1: SC even relevant, is that robbery every year versus Notre Dame. 101 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 1: And this isn't company from like a Notre Dame perspective 102 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:20,360 Speaker 1: on that. 103 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 4: That's the truth. Whether Southern cal people want. 104 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 1: To realize that or not, that game brought you to 105 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:29,920 Speaker 1: relevance because it's a storied robbery. 106 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:30,280 Speaker 4: Tine. 107 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 1: Two programs who were competing for national championship start history 108 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:37,040 Speaker 1: of college football and have put as many players in 109 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 1: the NFL as any in college football. 110 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:42,840 Speaker 4: Well, he said, and I don't want to play, and 111 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 4: he did, I'm not done, and he did away with 112 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:48,600 Speaker 4: it because he knew he could no longer compete with it. 113 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:51,719 Speaker 1: And so when you look at how this started, it 114 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:54,479 Speaker 1: started with his words, and then it started with an 115 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 1: athletic director in gen Cohen who inherited Lincoln Riley. And 116 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 1: an issue was against this I who point blank say that, 117 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:03,360 Speaker 1: And she knows it too, because I've had those conversations 118 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:07,279 Speaker 1: with her. And what changed over time is they started 119 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 1: to realize like, oh, we can use this as a 120 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:12,800 Speaker 1: convenient excuse because we can't beat Notre Dame right now 121 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:14,600 Speaker 1: and we're struggling. 122 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:15,919 Speaker 2: To compete within the big ten. And you know what. 123 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:18,919 Speaker 2: The other thing is, they've got no money. 124 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 1: They want to talk like they've got money, and they're 125 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 1: going to kind of you know, flash whatever. 126 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 2: Recruiting they're doing. 127 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 1: They don't have any money because if they did have money, 128 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 1: Lincoln Riley would have been bought out by now. And 129 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:31,840 Speaker 1: this is the same head coach, by the way, who 130 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 1: was back channeling for other jobs that have come open 131 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 1: in recent years. Huh unc And by the way, this 132 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 1: is all factual. This isn't like me making this stuff up. 133 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 1: This stuff goes around for a reason. So I would 134 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:48,359 Speaker 1: say this this is all a pr campaign by Southern 135 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:51,040 Speaker 1: col because they know this. They know that Notre Dame 136 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:52,839 Speaker 1: is not playing in a bowl game, so they're going 137 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 1: to have these opportunities to speak to the media and 138 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 1: react and respond to all of this. And on top 139 00:06:57,800 --> 00:06:59,840 Speaker 1: of it, they know they're the ones that we're trying 140 00:06:59,880 --> 00:07:02,600 Speaker 1: to go behind the scenes and work with Netflix to 141 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 1: try to figure out a neutral site game, which goes 142 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:08,720 Speaker 1: against everything NBC Sports has you know, contracted to through 143 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 1: the Big Ten and their Big Ten affiliation, which upset 144 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 1: the Big Ten and upset NBC Sports. It upsets NBC 145 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 1: for the home game the Notre Dame hosts every other 146 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 1: year with SC, so they they're already you know, ticking 147 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 1: off partners that are a part of it for the 148 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 1: TV distribution rights. And then what they did, and this 149 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 1: is the funniest part of all of this, and this 150 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 1: is why the decision to go with BYU happened so 151 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 1: quickly from Notre Dame side, because SC's offers weren't serious. 152 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 1: SC essentially when they try to extend it for twenty 153 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 1: twenty six and twenty twenty seven, we're like, oh, why 154 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 1: don't we play September sixth? And then they'll sit there 155 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 1: and say, well, you are you guys, are you know, 156 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 1: not conference affiliated, so it should be easy for you 157 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 1: got to move some of your games, and they say 158 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 1: that because they don't. They don't want to take into 159 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 1: account the fact that just because the Notre Dame is 160 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 1: not part of conference doesn't mean they can move games 161 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 1: around because who they actually plan September six at lambeau 162 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 1: Field is Wisconsin. Wisconsin is a part of the Big Ten, 163 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 1: so they know that they're tied to the Big Ten 164 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 1: conference scheduling. So even though everyone wants to act like 165 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 1: Notre Dame can make whatever schedule they want everything else, 166 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 1: it's a lot more difficult than that because once you 167 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 1: start playing conference play, those weeks are allotted and so 168 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 1: it's really hard to fit in a non conference game 169 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 1: later on in the season. That's one of the reasons 170 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 1: why Notre Dame will struggle to kind of put together 171 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 1: some of these schedules without a team coming off a 172 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 1: buy because they're a tough opponent a non conference opponent 173 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 1: later in the season, So everyone's gonna want two weeks 174 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 1: to prepare for them and they'll get their best shot. 175 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 1: But SC knows that that's the lie that they can 176 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 1: put throw out there, and no one's gonna challenge on 177 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 1: the se side of things and go, wait a second, 178 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 1: So just because they're not a co part of conference, 179 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 1: isn't it hard to schedule like Michigan State like later 180 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 1: on the season because they're a part of the Big 181 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:54,199 Speaker 1: Ten or Wisconsin or Purdue or any of these other 182 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:57,080 Speaker 1: programs that are a part of this, or Miami for 183 00:08:57,120 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 1: that matter, Doesn't that make that figure out where they're 184 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 1: gonna play kind of tough? And the truth of the 185 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:05,319 Speaker 1: matter is they offered out a proposal that they knew 186 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 1: Notre Dame wasn't gonna be able to play because of 187 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:10,840 Speaker 1: their current schedule for twenty twenty six that's already set 188 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 1: with some of those early dates because SC wanted to 189 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 1: play before. 190 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:16,319 Speaker 4: Conference play and some. 191 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:18,320 Speaker 2: Of those dates already set. You can't move that already. 192 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 1: They already had to move the Wisconsin lambeau Field game. 193 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 1: I think that was like back during COVID, I believe, 194 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 1: And so they had added like a makeup through that 195 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 1: is there that was real, it would have been like 196 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:31,560 Speaker 1: Southern Cal said, hey, let's play in twenty twenty six, 197 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:33,679 Speaker 1: twenty twenty seven in Mars, and Notre Dame's. 198 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 2: Like, uh, we can't get there yet. 199 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 4: They're like, well, I guess we can't do the series. 200 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 2: I guess you'll guess you have to find someone else then. 201 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:43,559 Speaker 1: And if they cared so much about extending the robbery, 202 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:46,719 Speaker 1: why only do it for two years? Why not just 203 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 1: say yeah, we're gonna keep paying this in perpetuity, and 204 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 1: this is how it's gonna look. It's because they don't 205 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:53,959 Speaker 1: want to play it anymore, because they got a head 206 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 1: coach who knows you can't win. 207 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 2: It. 208 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 4: Is their money connected to BYU playing Notre Dame in 209 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 4: that game? 210 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 2: Or is it just a scheduled game. 211 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 1: Well, they'll get the home gate, like, they'll get a 212 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:09,080 Speaker 1: non conference opponent who will obviously sell out, So. 213 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 4: They're going to go to BYU. So they give b 214 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:13,199 Speaker 4: they go, they go to b YU next year. 215 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:17,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, all right, all right, I'm just curious, like, like. 216 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 1: I mean, like these are all statistical facts too, it's 217 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 1: not opinion. Like you'll look at any of the acc 218 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:25,839 Speaker 1: attendance for the games they play Notre Name plays on 219 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 1: the road. Go look at the difference in attendance for 220 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 1: those games when Notre Dame plays versus other teams. Go 221 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:34,679 Speaker 1: look at the difference in ratings. I mean, it's all 222 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 1: money if you really think about it. Sure, sure, And 223 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 1: that's the reality is SC doesn't have any money. They've 224 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:42,840 Speaker 1: got no one who wants to step up and pay 225 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 1: the bill to move on from Lincoln Riley, who has 226 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 1: not been what they signed up for when he got there. 227 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 1: And so now you have an athletic director that has 228 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 1: to have a working relationship with him because for the 229 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:55,959 Speaker 1: foreseeable future, that's what it is until someone steps up, 230 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:58,439 Speaker 1: or until they achieve at a high enough level where 231 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 1: they can then justify and say, well, see there's our coach. 232 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:03,680 Speaker 1: He's doing great, he won a Big ten championship. Does 233 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:07,200 Speaker 1: that seem anywhere close for USC? They think that with 234 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:10,720 Speaker 1: this recruiting class and these guys they resigned back that 235 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 1: next year's is one of those years that could could be, 236 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:15,680 Speaker 1: or maybe twenty twenty seven, But it also happens to 237 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 1: be the fact that they can't get from out underneath 238 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:20,720 Speaker 1: this contract, and meanwhile he's back channeling for other jobs. 239 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 4: One of the things that I oh, one of the things, 240 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:27,960 Speaker 4: the last a little last. 241 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 1: One of the things that I then let me put 242 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:33,679 Speaker 1: this that way too. That came from an s clum, 243 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 1: multiple sclums. So if anyone has an issue with that, 244 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 1: take it up with your own alumni base. 245 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 2: Well. 246 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:41,600 Speaker 3: And that's that's part of like my point on this 247 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:45,680 Speaker 3: is one thing I've learned when it comes to people 248 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:50,960 Speaker 3: who played college and then played professionally, like you don't 249 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 3: really care about who you played for professionally as much 250 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:55,720 Speaker 3: as you do in college. That's your alum. That's like, 251 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:58,959 Speaker 3: that's that's who you represent, like you guys historically. 252 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, It's just it's it's the it's the way to like. 253 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 3: You guys, Like I mean, you don't you don't care 254 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 3: about Washington or the New York Giants, the Browns or 255 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 3: the well I'm saying and from the standpoint up like 256 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 3: you're passionate. Your passion is for your alma mater, like 257 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:20,199 Speaker 3: where you played college ball, Like that's like you go back, 258 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 3: that's that's the love. And so the reason I bring 259 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:27,560 Speaker 3: that up is and I think that stands for a 260 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 3: lot of people. When you've got your own alum who 261 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:36,440 Speaker 3: would love nothing more than to defend the honor of 262 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 3: their school that they played for. And your own alum 263 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:44,319 Speaker 3: is coming out saying we look soft as s with 264 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 3: this move. You can't like, I mean, you would like 265 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 3: bend over backwards to support and there's been some that 266 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:52,680 Speaker 3: have done it like you would. You would do whatever 267 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 3: it takes to But you've got people coming out and 268 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 3: saying this is indefensible, like we like, we have no, 269 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 3: we have no response to this, it's a soft move. 270 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:05,079 Speaker 3: And the fact that USC is saying, oh, we just 271 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 3: don't want to play him later in the year because 272 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 3: it's gonna come. So then you're worried about the matchup 273 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:11,840 Speaker 3: because you're worried about losing, like and if you go 274 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 3: into anything worried about losing, like, well, god if something 275 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 3: bad had you in essence are going in scared. And 276 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 3: that's why I look at this and I go They 277 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:22,560 Speaker 3: like Lincoln Riley can say whatever the hell he wants, 278 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 3: and he can he can talk about all the things 279 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 3: that and jen Con can come out and say, well, 280 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:30,440 Speaker 3: we were doing this and we tried these options. They 281 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:33,320 Speaker 3: can say whatever they want. The proof is in the putting. 282 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 3: The facts are there, and even your own family quote 283 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 3: unquote is looking at you with a sidey going, this 284 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 3: is kind of a bitch move. 285 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 2: If we're being hong, you just can't. 286 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 4: A coach should not be able to make this decision. 287 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 4: That's all I'll say. That's it's the the damage that 288 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:56,960 Speaker 4: this does, which maybe people. 289 00:13:56,720 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 2: Don't see it. Maybe maybe they do. 290 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 4: I don't know, but the image that it does to 291 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 4: the whole landscape of college football historically speaking, is what 292 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:12,720 Speaker 4: they say, irreputable, something something like that. Right, it's like you, 293 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 4: it's it's a coach should not be able to make 294 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 4: that decision. I just I don't I think that that. Like, 295 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 4: imagine if a coach came in and said, up, can't 296 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 4: beat Michigan, We got to stop playing this game. Up, 297 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 4: we can't beat Ohio State. Like not, Nope, can't play 298 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 4: that game anymore. Like maybe we'll revisit it after a while. 299 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 4: Like the damage that that would do to college football 300 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 4: doing away with the Michigan Ohio State game. Like, to me, 301 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 4: I feel like this has the same type of historical 302 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 4: value and connection to it in terms of what it 303 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 4: means to the fan base. Isn't the whole entire college 304 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 4: football landscape. 305 00:14:57,360 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 3: Would Nick Saban have ever done this for the iron 306 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 3: Ball and you talk about somebody who's got enough stroke 307 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 3: to maybe pull something like that off. 308 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 2: He would never think of doing that ever. 309 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 4: And but here's the bigger I think the bigger point 310 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 4: here is. 311 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 2: Why would you? Why would you want to do that? 312 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 4: You want to be remembered for something like that will 313 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 4: be what he's remembered for, the coach that didn't want 314 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:24,720 Speaker 4: to play Notre Dame. I don't care what he does. 315 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 4: He could go win a national title for all I care, 316 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 4: you're still gonna look at him like, yeah, but you 317 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 4: didn't want to deal with Notre Dame. Like there's always 318 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 4: going to be an asterisk next to his name and 319 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 4: he's going to go down in history as the coach 320 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 4: that facilitated not playing Notre Dame anymore. 321 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 3: I mean, look, Jim Harbaugh got heat because a lot 322 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 3: of people thought he, you know, opted out of the 323 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 3: COVID year because he didn't want to get his ass 324 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 3: p by Ohio Stadium. 325 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, but that's a COVID year. I'm just saying, that's 326 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 4: a code. Even that like that, you could kind of 327 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 4: justify this. 328 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 2: You can't. 329 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 4: I opted out of a game and got a conference 330 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 4: championship COVID year. We went undefeed it and I knew 331 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 4: the team we was going to have to play for 332 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 4: the conference title was going to whoop our ass the 333 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 4: second time. And I say, he, ain't no way we're 334 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 4: doing this. Coach, ain't that guy, ain't no way, ain't 335 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 4: no way, too dangerous. I just it's all right, at risk, 336 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 4: we're not doing it. 337 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 1: I find it interesting at this point in Lincoln Riley's 338 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 1: tenure he has as many wins against sunder name as 339 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 1: Clayhilton did. A guy who had a golf simulator and 340 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 1: a bum catching punts in the program. 341 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 4: Right this USC football baby sums it up. Well, there 342 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 4: you go, USC, that's where you're at at this point. 343 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 4: And we just took your de coordinator. Take that. 344 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 1: And by the way, that point that no, no, no, that 345 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 1: point is another reason why they don't have as much money. 346 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 1: Now people are going to say, well, that's his almaanater 347 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 1: and that's why he wants to go back. Hey man, 348 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 1: money talks bs wash. 349 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 2: Very true. 350 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 4: And if they they have the funds they say they do, 351 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:54,479 Speaker 4: they claim. 352 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 2: They did, and we bought our coach out. 353 00:16:56,560 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 1: There you go and by the way, and you got 354 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 1: Danton Lynn to go there been part because of it's 355 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 1: his alma modern all that, but also. 356 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:06,359 Speaker 2: Because of money, because Penn State has more money. And 357 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 2: that's the truth. 358 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 1: By the way, the most improved part of the SC 359 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 1: program defense. 360 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 2: Was their defense. Yeah, that was that was the key. Yeah. 361 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:15,639 Speaker 2: So there you go. 362 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 1: That's just another example of all the glitz, glamor all 363 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:19,440 Speaker 1: the bs. 364 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:21,359 Speaker 2: Who wasn't it. They don't have anyone that's willing to 365 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 2: stroke that check man, they don't. 366 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:27,200 Speaker 4: That's crazy. What i'ma pay my money for? I live 367 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:29,480 Speaker 4: here like I could see USC. 368 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 2: What what am I? 369 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 4: What are we putting our money together for? We're just 370 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 4: putting our money together to get rid of him, to 371 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:38,240 Speaker 4: bring somebody else in that's going to let us down. 372 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:42,120 Speaker 4: Look at the long laundry list of names that are 373 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:48,160 Speaker 4: have done tremendously amazing things in other places post USC. 374 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 4: I'm not putting my money up to get rid of him, 375 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 4: like cats taking our money going somewhere else and winning. 376 00:17:56,240 --> 00:18:01,400 Speaker 4: They just paid your boy kiffing how much you left 377 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:02,400 Speaker 4: him on the tarmac. 378 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 2: You ain't even funny. Look at starked down in Texas. 379 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:09,399 Speaker 4: It took starting to Sark with add these guys what 380 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:10,720 Speaker 4: number one, number two? 381 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 2: Didn't they go and ohiwod state and win? 382 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 1: This year? 383 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 4: They lost? They lost, They lost. It was a close 384 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 4: one though. I mean Clay Helton win the Birmingham Bowl yesterday. 385 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 2: I think he did, didn't he? I think he was. Yeah, 386 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:22,640 Speaker 2: it's part taking it. Oh gosh. 387 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:25,639 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not paying no, no millions of dollars to 388 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 4: send him somewhere to go win. Y'all go on, y'all 389 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:33,480 Speaker 4: gonna lose with him. But you should be able to 390 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:37,360 Speaker 4: take this game away. That's that's the problem. That's the problem. 391 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:39,160 Speaker 4: Too many bad decisions. 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Yeah, yeah that 407 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 4: is Yeah, I'm talking about my back though, talking about 408 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 4: the front. 409 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 2: He looked like a Star Wars villain in there with 410 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:29,400 Speaker 2: the red leg the sticks. Yeah that's right. 411 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 4: What you're trying to say, why you gotta be a villain? 412 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I got they had the red and the red light. 413 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 4: What do you say next? Patty Sweet has to die 414 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:40,920 Speaker 4: in the movie too. 415 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 2: It's messed up, dude, all. 416 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:46,760 Speaker 4: Right, so you made me a citious Darth Mall and 417 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 4: bad Boy race they had red? 418 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:53,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, sure that's why. Yeah, that's exactly what it was. 419 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:57,720 Speaker 4: Now, that is strange that jedis never used red though, 420 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:02,119 Speaker 4: like because they were green blue. It's always something like 421 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 4: a lighter color, right, No, that's interesting, it's interesting. 422 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:10,119 Speaker 2: I was more of a sesame streaky myself. Yeah, they 423 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:13,119 Speaker 2: didn't use lightsabers. 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Will it be Tyler Huntley? Will it be 467 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 3: Lamar Jackson? John Harbaugh updated the media on the availability. 468 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 2: Of Lamar heading into this game. 469 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:27,840 Speaker 8: Yeah, well it's to be determined, you know, I mean 470 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:30,439 Speaker 8: Stowe's coming off. He's coming off of very serious injury 471 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 8: and he's working at it. I saw him here today 472 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:35,560 Speaker 8: working at it. So I think we'll know a lot 473 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:36,280 Speaker 8: more on Wednesday. 474 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:41,480 Speaker 4: So that is the status of lamarg section and so 475 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:42,440 Speaker 4: a big gang man. 476 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 2: I don't I don't think. 477 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 3: He actually knows what to expect day to day, week to. 478 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:51,240 Speaker 2: Week with looking up play this year. 479 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:54,920 Speaker 1: He's gone on sound again to give us more clarity. 480 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:58,119 Speaker 8: Yeah, well, to be determined, you know. I mean, Stowe's 481 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 8: coming off, he's coming off a very serious injury, and uh, 482 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 8: he's working at it. And I saw him here today 483 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:05,600 Speaker 8: working at it. So Monk will know a lot more 484 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:06,160 Speaker 8: on Wednesday. 485 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:09,200 Speaker 2: And guess what's gonna happen on Wednesday. He's gonna play. 486 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 2: He's gonna be out with the flu, He's going to play. 487 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:17,680 Speaker 4: It's a big game, like he's going to play regardless 488 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:21,440 Speaker 4: of what. Like the most uncomfortable aspect of what's going 489 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 4: on right now is where they currently are right now 490 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:31,920 Speaker 4: Monday through what Friday. Yeah, you got to answer the questions, right, 491 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 4: But he's going to play. 492 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 1: Okay, But can we ask the question why he's continually 493 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:39,880 Speaker 1: missing practice for quote unquote illnesses. 494 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:44,199 Speaker 4: That's what makes it uncomfortable, U cause I don't have 495 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:47,479 Speaker 4: the answer. Don't look at me like I got to answer. 496 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 4: I don't And I know y'all might be like, well, 497 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 4: but he's black. You might know what he's thinking. Like, 498 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 4: we don't like fake injuries. We don't fake illnesses, like nobody, 499 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 4: nobody ever does that, by the way, to miss work 500 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:04,479 Speaker 4: or anything like fake ill or miss school. 501 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:08,359 Speaker 2: You know, I'm going to ask you this, Okay, okay, Oh. 502 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:12,679 Speaker 1: How many quarterbacks, because I do believe Lamar has put 503 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:15,760 Speaker 1: himself in the Hall of Fame category, how many Hall 504 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 1: of Fame quarterbacks have consistently missed a day of practice. 505 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 2: Out the course of the year. Oh, I don't know. 506 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:24,639 Speaker 2: I wouldn't know. And I think. 507 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 1: That's like, look, there's there's guys who, you know, I 508 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 1: don't know. Maybe Tom Brady did, Maybe he took a 509 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 1: day off. Maybe I don't think Drew Brees did. You know, 510 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:35,640 Speaker 1: I don't know Aaron Rodgers practice schedule. Maybe he has been. 511 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:38,440 Speaker 1: I mean, there's guys who are up there in age 512 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 1: that have done that. But it just I think it's 513 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 1: a bit concerning. My only perspective is this, when you're 514 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:51,560 Speaker 1: a quarterback, you have so many plays in the install 515 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:55,720 Speaker 1: that you might not even get a rep of The 516 00:24:56,160 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 1: rep you get might be a walkthrough rep, and sometimes 517 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:01,840 Speaker 1: you're repping stuff extra. 518 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:03,439 Speaker 2: Like on a one on one route, like. 519 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:06,520 Speaker 1: During special teams, just to get a sense of timing 520 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:09,600 Speaker 1: for a different route concept, maybe a different way the 521 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:14,639 Speaker 1: receiver's running it. So time is so limited during the 522 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:18,240 Speaker 1: course of the weekend your preparation. My only perspective is 523 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:22,200 Speaker 1: like I wanted every single minute, every play I could 524 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:25,120 Speaker 1: to make sure I was prepared because. 525 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:27,639 Speaker 2: I would not be able to live with myself. 526 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:30,639 Speaker 1: When the result doesn't go the way you want and 527 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:32,920 Speaker 1: thinking that I didn't do all I could to prepare. 528 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:36,359 Speaker 1: So that's what's interesting to me is you have a 529 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 1: guy who's been a multi time MVP, who's one of 530 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:42,240 Speaker 1: the most talented the league's ever seen on a Hall 531 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:43,360 Speaker 1: of Fame track. 532 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 4: But hasn't gotten to the pinnacle yet of winning a 533 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 4: Super Bowl, and yet for whatever reason, there's something going 534 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:53,480 Speaker 4: on where he's not practicing during And again, we can 535 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:56,200 Speaker 4: do the whole Allen iverson Drag were talking about practice, 536 00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:59,680 Speaker 4: you know, but as a leader, it's hard when you're 537 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:00,199 Speaker 4: not out there. 538 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:01,600 Speaker 2: But like other guys are right. 539 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:04,399 Speaker 1: I mean, is it not hard to say you're a 540 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 1: leader of the team if other guys are out there, 541 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:09,640 Speaker 1: who are there? They're going through it, they're practicing every day, 542 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:12,400 Speaker 1: they're preparing themselves every day. Or do you think guys 543 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 1: are just more understanding and saying, hey, he needs a 544 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 1: day off, he needs a day off. 545 00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:22,080 Speaker 4: Oh, I don't know the dynamics of today's locker room 546 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 4: like I did when I played. Again, if I'm putting 547 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:30,719 Speaker 4: it into proper perspective, they still had you know, Miller 548 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:37,720 Speaker 4: lights and Cores lights and buttwisers in the refrigerator. It's 549 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:41,200 Speaker 4: been replaced with gatorades or power raids and water bro. 550 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 4: But they had some old that's some old head talk, right, 551 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:47,440 Speaker 4: that's old head talk, bro. Like, like guys smoked cigarettes. 552 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:51,160 Speaker 4: Like when I play, guys still with smoke cigarettes right 553 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:54,120 Speaker 4: outside the door. Can you name a player right now 554 00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:58,680 Speaker 4: that's smoked a cigarette? Man, I can't even remember the coach. 555 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:00,840 Speaker 4: There was a coach that used to do all the time. 556 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:05,160 Speaker 4: It's either a cigarette, gibbs or a cigar. I can't 557 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:05,840 Speaker 4: even name. 558 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 1: I know it smoked every day something else before practice 559 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:13,040 Speaker 1: sang good for him? 560 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:15,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, but that was that was the time frame I 561 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:17,639 Speaker 4: came from, so things was a lot different. 562 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:20,760 Speaker 2: Like old heads took old like it was. 563 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 4: An honor to be old enough to not have to practice, 564 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:29,119 Speaker 4: like like for what it is worth, like Bruce Smith 565 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 4: in them then, like I tell you all the story 566 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 4: all the time, when Marty came in after my rookie year, 567 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:40,160 Speaker 4: Marty came in after North and made us practice. Duke 568 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:45,239 Speaker 4: was good like losing it made brutes go through an 569 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:49,240 Speaker 4: oklah o. But a drill jack Didshaw? I mean, he 570 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 4: proved it. He took the dude throwing out and away 571 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,719 Speaker 4: hit him. Oh man, dude what one of the players 572 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:59,119 Speaker 4: broke his leg? And Coach Shottenheimer was like, everybody circle around, 573 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:03,960 Speaker 4: let's pray. You hear somebody from the back row, pray, 574 00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 4: pray for what, pray for some of this mad and 575 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 4: that's going on around here. I love how consistently you 576 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:15,240 Speaker 4: tell that story. 577 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:19,159 Speaker 2: It sounds the same every time. That's exact. 578 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:25,959 Speaker 4: Can see it, like, wait, they scraped. Well, if you 579 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:29,719 Speaker 4: know how Bruce speaks, if you hear Bruce talk, it 580 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:32,040 Speaker 4: makes it even funnier because I can hear him when 581 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:33,639 Speaker 4: I say it. Y'all can hear me saying it, but 582 00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:37,000 Speaker 4: I can hear him when I'm saying it's the funniest 583 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:42,440 Speaker 4: because Bruce is proper as hell, like super ridiculously proper, 584 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:44,480 Speaker 4: like the way he speaks, super proper. 585 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:47,400 Speaker 2: So wait, we. 586 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:49,960 Speaker 4: Looking at the dude get I don't remember who he was, 587 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:53,480 Speaker 4: but they was scraping him up leg broke, just hanging off, 588 00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 4: hanging off his body just right there. 589 00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 2: Boom and Marty. 590 00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:01,760 Speaker 4: Marty comes, you know, with his hands like, everybody, let's 591 00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:07,600 Speaker 4: circle up and let's pray. So everybody's everybody like just 592 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 4: touching them shoulders and like taking knees and stuff. And 593 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:12,480 Speaker 4: I'm looking side to side. 594 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:15,120 Speaker 2: I'm like, this is crazy. 595 00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:18,479 Speaker 4: I'm sitting there thinking like it's crazy. My mas get 596 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 4: scraped up off the ground. We sitting here taking the 597 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:23,840 Speaker 4: knee and pray. And all I can hear from behind 598 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:30,600 Speaker 4: me was pray, pray for what, pray for some of 599 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:32,280 Speaker 4: this matt and it's going on around here. 600 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 2: But that's what it was. How old was Bruce Smith? 601 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:39,080 Speaker 2: It was old, like I don't know it was. 602 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:42,360 Speaker 4: It was old though, Lamar Jackson's not even twenty nine yet. 603 00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:46,200 Speaker 4: I mean, and again, like I'll say it's flot of 604 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:51,880 Speaker 4: time to miss in his situation. And we talked about 605 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:53,960 Speaker 4: this the other day and you you aren't here, but 606 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:59,480 Speaker 4: we we talked about the idea of possibly and potentially 607 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 4: maybe it was yesterday, Well yesterday you could potentially lose 608 00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:06,560 Speaker 4: this locker room because now it seems to be stories 609 00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:10,200 Speaker 4: are surfacing and circulating that there's a different set of 610 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:14,800 Speaker 4: standards and rules for Lamar Jackson and not starting to surface. 611 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:19,000 Speaker 4: And if that's let's be clear on this old school, 612 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:23,320 Speaker 4: new school, any school. If that's what you're seeing taking 613 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:26,560 Speaker 4: place and a team is struggling, it can go back 614 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:27,360 Speaker 4: really quickly. 615 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 2: It go back really quickly. Okay, but but he is 616 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:32,680 Speaker 2: the type of talent, right. 617 00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:35,640 Speaker 1: Everyone always talks what was the Bill Parcells story when 618 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:39,320 Speaker 1: when he's saying it, Bill Belichick was saying ow lt 619 00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:41,760 Speaker 1: was late to a meeting or whatever, and Parcels basically 620 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:44,440 Speaker 1: says to him, like, well, why'd you start the meeting? 621 00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:46,200 Speaker 1: Like he's not late if he don't start the meeting 622 00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:49,840 Speaker 1: until he gets there. They basically saying that, like, you 623 00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:53,120 Speaker 1: can't treat all the players the same. You can hold 624 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:56,280 Speaker 1: him the same standards, but there's gonna be certain players 625 00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 1: who have extreme talent, and Lamar falls in that category. 626 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:03,280 Speaker 1: And if we're being honest with ourselves, like you need him, 627 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:07,480 Speaker 1: you know, like he's a difference maker. So I under 628 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:09,760 Speaker 1: I understand that, and I that's why I kind of 629 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:11,800 Speaker 1: brought it up, is like I think the more concerning 630 00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:12,800 Speaker 1: thing for me is. 631 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:15,320 Speaker 2: Your head coach and. 632 00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:19,560 Speaker 1: Your quarterback are usually tied together, like whether it's the 633 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:23,880 Speaker 1: success or the failure, and it feels like there's a 634 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:27,800 Speaker 1: disconnect maybe more. That's just what I'm reading into this, 635 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:30,440 Speaker 1: because again John Harball seems to sound okay with it 636 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 1: talking about it. He continually has to talk about it, 637 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:36,080 Speaker 1: and it doesn't seem to bother him, Like that wasn't 638 00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:38,400 Speaker 1: a response in which you know, you would say like, yeah, 639 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:40,520 Speaker 1: he's frustrated by it, and he's airing him out publicly, 640 00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:44,360 Speaker 1: So they're handling it, at least publicly the right way. 641 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:46,960 Speaker 2: I don't know what it looks like behind closed doors. 642 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:50,480 Speaker 4: How's he knows he's gonna play, he knows he's maybe 643 00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:52,880 Speaker 4: that's it, and you always yeah, and you always have 644 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:55,960 Speaker 4: a chance to redeem yourself if you get to Lamar 645 00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:58,280 Speaker 4: Jackson that had led to you treating him the way 646 00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 4: that you treat them anyway. But I'll say this was 647 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:03,200 Speaker 4: this past week not a big game for them. Yes, 648 00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:06,480 Speaker 4: every week, every every week's big game, right, So like 649 00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:10,080 Speaker 4: you're saying he's he's you're sure he's gonna play, we 650 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:12,480 Speaker 4: didn't play this past week, right, But I'm saying based 651 00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:16,240 Speaker 4: off of the way he sounded like, we'll see like Wednesday, 652 00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:18,280 Speaker 4: you know he's coming his hair working. 653 00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:21,280 Speaker 3: But why does a story like the one that we 654 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:26,920 Speaker 3: talked about anyway, what do you mean he's still he's 655 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:31,040 Speaker 3: still playing all right? Where it was Mike Preston of 656 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:35,400 Speaker 3: The Baltimore Son who wrote about just sort of the 657 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:39,920 Speaker 3: behind the scenes stuff that you know, there's Lamar Jackson 658 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:44,480 Speaker 3: stays up late playing video game massage over here. 659 00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:45,520 Speaker 2: They've had to. 660 00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:49,200 Speaker 3: Adjust uh practice times to cater to him. That John 661 00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:52,640 Speaker 3: Harbaugh has grown frustrated with it, you know that he 662 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:55,680 Speaker 3: should be at the facility. And we talked to Prisco 663 00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:57,920 Speaker 3: yesterday about it, and Pete's like, look, I've known Mike 664 00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:00,200 Speaker 3: a long time. He's not going to just make that up. 665 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:01,920 Speaker 3: And that's my thought on it. It is like that 666 00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:04,520 Speaker 3: just doesn't come out of nowhere, like it made up 667 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:06,479 Speaker 3: out of thin air. With that much detail, and I 668 00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:10,600 Speaker 3: just I think there's something too. Maybe there is some 669 00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:15,160 Speaker 3: frustration that like, damn man, seasons on the line, we 670 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:17,320 Speaker 3: know you got a stomach ache, or we know you 671 00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:19,560 Speaker 3: got could you at least be out there? 672 00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:20,000 Speaker 4: Could you? 673 00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:22,360 Speaker 3: Could you at least make a Wednesday practice? He's missed 674 00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:25,920 Speaker 3: like eight Wednesday practices in a row. Is that possible 675 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:29,360 Speaker 3: that you could be over and embellishing it? And in 676 00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:33,240 Speaker 3: the context of which you're putting it, it sounds totally egregious. 677 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:37,360 Speaker 3: But in a different context it could potentially make sense. 678 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:40,360 Speaker 2: But why is it out? Why? Why is why is it? Okay? 679 00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:43,760 Speaker 2: I don't, I don't. I can't answer the why is 680 00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:45,320 Speaker 2: it out? Well? 681 00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:48,080 Speaker 4: I can't, but I think when you're losing, it becomes 682 00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:50,440 Speaker 4: a thing. In what context would it not be a 683 00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:51,240 Speaker 4: sound egregious? 684 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:55,120 Speaker 2: I don't know. I really don't. 685 00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:56,640 Speaker 4: Because you said it and I was like, oh, that's 686 00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:57,200 Speaker 4: be interesting. 687 00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:01,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. Okay, let me give you a theory. 688 00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:02,360 Speaker 2: I'm gonna float to theory. 689 00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:06,720 Speaker 4: Okay, does Lamar Jackson have representation his mom? 690 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:07,200 Speaker 2: Right? 691 00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:07,360 Speaker 6: Well? 692 00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:09,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, so kind of, but not. 693 00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:11,920 Speaker 1: He doesn't have an ahent right, that doesn't If you 694 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:17,719 Speaker 1: look at his contract I believe next year's cap hit 695 00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:20,200 Speaker 1: is like seventy four point five million. 696 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:21,520 Speaker 2: That's a really big number. 697 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:25,200 Speaker 1: So my thought is, even though the dead cab money 698 00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:28,040 Speaker 1: would be like if things, you know, if crap hit 699 00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:29,839 Speaker 1: the fan, they wanted to get out, they couldn't even 700 00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:32,600 Speaker 1: do that after you know, this year, really not until 701 00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:36,880 Speaker 1: after twenty twenty six. But I do believe they're gonna 702 00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:40,680 Speaker 1: have to restructure after this year, and part of me 703 00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:43,120 Speaker 1: kind of wonders if that's maybe playing a role in 704 00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:44,520 Speaker 1: all this, Like I think we all know how. 705 00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:45,719 Speaker 2: This works, like this is a business. 706 00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:49,279 Speaker 1: Money's involved, and I do wonder if they've either had 707 00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:52,640 Speaker 1: conversations or that's not being discussed or talked about enough, 708 00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:55,080 Speaker 1: or that's why some of this is going on as 709 00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:59,040 Speaker 1: he's unhappy with whatever conversations I've been sad or talked about, 710 00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:03,160 Speaker 1: or lack their up. But I know something needs to 711 00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:07,040 Speaker 1: be done after this year because I would imagine they 712 00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:08,799 Speaker 1: don't want to have to carry a seventy four point 713 00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:12,439 Speaker 1: five million dollar capt for one player heading into twenty 714 00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:12,960 Speaker 1: twenty six. 715 00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:17,600 Speaker 2: I don't know what isn't egregious. 716 00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:20,680 Speaker 4: What I do know is. 717 00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:25,640 Speaker 2: That the Ravens. 718 00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:30,440 Speaker 4: They're in a curious position right now. And I feel 719 00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:34,719 Speaker 4: like this is the curious position Bowl, Like, you got 720 00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:39,360 Speaker 4: two teams that are in very, very almost mirror image 721 00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:44,480 Speaker 4: of situations in play and for one team it seems 722 00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:48,080 Speaker 4: to be the receivers that's always a deal. On the other, 723 00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:50,440 Speaker 4: it just seems to be what you're dealing with with 724 00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:54,439 Speaker 4: the quarterback. Nonetheless, it's still your marquee player that you're 725 00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:57,560 Speaker 4: talking about, and you're talking about how is it. 726 00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:00,320 Speaker 2: Being handled and managed by the co which. 727 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:06,560 Speaker 4: And they're in the same division and they're the same situation, 728 00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:10,680 Speaker 4: and they're playing to see who's going to have to 729 00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:14,680 Speaker 4: deal with what comes next from the playoffs or what 730 00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:19,160 Speaker 4: comes next from you know, the off season, the start 731 00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:22,360 Speaker 4: of the beginning of the off season. It's pretty interesting 732 00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:24,680 Speaker 4: because again I don't know which one is worse. I 733 00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:26,640 Speaker 4: almost feel like, let's just get it out of the way. 734 00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:30,040 Speaker 4: I mean, you can't say it's better you want a division, 735 00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:33,080 Speaker 4: you're going to the playoffs, But if you lose in 736 00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:35,400 Speaker 4: the first round of the playoffs, I almost feel like 737 00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:38,919 Speaker 4: that's just as bad, if not worse than just going 738 00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:40,239 Speaker 4: home and getting it out of the way. 739 00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:44,200 Speaker 3: See football, though, that's what they do all right, Well, 740 00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:44,960 Speaker 3: that's what they do. 741 00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:48,439 Speaker 4: I mean, I know the Ravens make it a little further, 742 00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:52,560 Speaker 4: but they don't make it all the way. Yeah, this 743 00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:54,759 Speaker 4: is I mean, one goes quicker than the other, but 744 00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:58,520 Speaker 4: still this is the AFC's version of the NFC. 745 00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:00,840 Speaker 3: South is what it is, and it's going to be 746 00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:02,919 Speaker 3: a quick exit for one of those teams. 747 00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:06,160 Speaker 2: They're not that bad. The South is bad on the 748 00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:06,879 Speaker 2: NFC side. 749 00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:08,080 Speaker 3: By the way, if you ever wanted to try an 750 00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:10,800 Speaker 3: Olympic and Paralympic sport, why don't you try fencing. It's fast, 751 00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:12,840 Speaker 3: it's safe, it's easy to start. Find a beginner class 752 00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:15,560 Speaker 3: near you at USA Fencing dot org. Slash try Fencing. 753 00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:18,680 Speaker 3: That's USA Fencing dot org slash try Fencing up next here. 754 00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:20,719 Speaker 3: Somebody in the NFL is not even trying to hide it. 755 00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:22,440 Speaker 3: We'll get into that for you here on FSR. 756 00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:25,279 Speaker 5: Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and 757 00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:28,360 Speaker 5: a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Arrington, and 758 00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:32,759 Speaker 5: Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern three am Pacific 759 00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:36,240 Speaker 5: on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. 760 00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:39,440 Speaker 3: Two Pros and a Couple Here on Fox Sports Radio, 761 00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:43,880 Speaker 3: LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas and Ie with you. 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Are you gonna reveal what 772 00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:05,560 Speaker 4: your bracket says? 773 00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:09,960 Speaker 2: I've got Gia. 774 00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:12,720 Speaker 4: Fill yours out at C I've got Georgia beating Texas 775 00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:15,600 Speaker 4: Tech in the National Championship. 776 00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:19,200 Speaker 2: Wow, Texas Tech making it all the way? 777 00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:19,440 Speaker 4: Hume? 778 00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:22,000 Speaker 2: Interesting, got Georgian? 779 00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:24,200 Speaker 1: Are you doing that to differentiate from everyone else? I 780 00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:26,440 Speaker 1: don't know that many people are. Okay, Yeah, kind of 781 00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:28,880 Speaker 1: based on how your NFL picks have gone this season, 782 00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:31,640 Speaker 1: I would say to the people out. 783 00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:34,440 Speaker 2: There, do not do not bet on that. Yeah, you 784 00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:35,160 Speaker 2: winning a Q? 785 00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:39,320 Speaker 4: Who do I pick House State? I think I have 786 00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:41,040 Speaker 4: him beating Georgia. 787 00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:45,120 Speaker 2: I got I've got Georgia beating Ohio State. 788 00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:47,320 Speaker 4: Sticks picks. 789 00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:51,480 Speaker 1: I do think that this Miamial House State game. I 790 00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:53,160 Speaker 1: think will be closer in what the line shows. 791 00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:56,080 Speaker 2: I don't. I mean, I think they about the beat 792 00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:57,479 Speaker 2: the bark off of their back. 793 00:38:57,600 --> 00:38:57,719 Speaker 1: Bro. 794 00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:02,240 Speaker 4: No, man, that Miami team is much better than people realize. 795 00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:05,520 Speaker 4: Their offensive line it's massive, they are big. I mean, 796 00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:06,600 Speaker 4: I'll put it this way. 797 00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:11,480 Speaker 1: If beck can just be if you can just manage 798 00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:11,799 Speaker 1: the game. 799 00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:13,839 Speaker 4: I'm not even asking to like do much. 800 00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:14,520 Speaker 2: Just manage it. 801 00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:17,399 Speaker 1: Let Fletcher run the rock, Tony pitching when he came, 802 00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:20,080 Speaker 1: and let the defense do what they do. I'm telling 803 00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:21,759 Speaker 1: you that team is a better team than people give 804 00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:22,240 Speaker 1: them credit. 805 00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:29,600 Speaker 4: I think Indiana gave Miami fans and enthusiasts false false hope. 806 00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:30,640 Speaker 2: That's false hope. 807 00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:35,640 Speaker 4: They are physical, that defense is as sick as defenses 808 00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:37,040 Speaker 4: get and being sick. 809 00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:39,359 Speaker 2: That's a sick defense. Bro. 810 00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:42,480 Speaker 4: I'll say this much. Who is the best quarterback that 811 00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:47,600 Speaker 4: high state faced all year? The kid that one? Yeah, 812 00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:50,839 Speaker 4: Indiana in the Big Ten championship game. They really haven't 813 00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:52,480 Speaker 4: faced many great offenses this season. 814 00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:53,320 Speaker 2: False hope. 815 00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:58,400 Speaker 4: I'm telling you, I'm telling you they are going to 816 00:39:58,520 --> 00:39:59,680 Speaker 4: beat them boys up. 817 00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:01,880 Speaker 2: Man, Well I know this. I'll say I was like 818 00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:04,560 Speaker 2: Bam on the points there. I'm just saying, not saying 819 00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:07,520 Speaker 2: they win, but yeah, keep it close. I'm with that, 820 00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:07,920 Speaker 2: I think so. 821 00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:10,360 Speaker 3: By the way, feeding off the success of our college 822 00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:13,400 Speaker 3: basketball bracket challenge each March, we decided to do a 823 00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:16,160 Speaker 3: bracket challenge for a college football playoff. 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