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Speaker 2: Final Hour here on day two of the Drive on

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Speaker 2: Steelers Nation Radio, West Huler Matt Williamson, if you're just

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Speaker 2: joining us or you missed it, practice cut a little

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Speaker 2: short today because of the weather. Still looks a little

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Speaker 2: ominous out there, although it's not coming down here quite yet.

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Speaker 2: But you also know how that works, Matt, Like, if

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Speaker 2: there's lightning within the area of so many miles, they

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Speaker 2: have to clear the field. They have to clear you know,

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Speaker 2: that's not like a judgment call. That's out se durl thing.

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Speaker 3: Ye ye, there's you know, maybe we'll play through.

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Speaker 2: It, right. You could play through rain absolutely and all

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Speaker 2: that stuff. But as soon as there's there's thunder and

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Speaker 2: lightning in the area, see you you gotta you gotta

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Speaker 2: get to safety with that, some of the guys that

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Speaker 2: that we've been talking about, some of the things that

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Speaker 2: we've been talking about discussed by players from this Pittsburgh

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Speaker 2: Steelers team, and we're gonna play you some of that

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Speaker 2: audio now. Joey Porter Junior, John new Smith, Keanu Benton.

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Speaker 3: Some good ones.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Joey Porter Junior talking about the new additions in

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Speaker 2: the secondary, Keanu Benton the same as well too, with

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Speaker 2: with guys like Derek Harmon, and then of course John

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Speaker 2: new Smith just general stuff on being out here in

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Speaker 2: La Trobe and being a Pittsburgh Steeler.

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Speaker 3: Here's what super quick question. I think we mentioned this

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Speaker 3: yesterday and by no means is Joey Porter need you know,

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Speaker 3: he's not Pickens, who is kind of in his own world.

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Speaker 3: I mean, he doesn't need like the mentor. But what

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Speaker 3: could be better for him than having Ramsey and Slay.

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Speaker 2: Two veterans Super Bowl champions, right.

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Speaker 3: Right right, I mean just the big brother look up

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Speaker 2: Right, And at one point, I mean both of Jalen

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Speaker 2: Ramsey absolutely, but even Darius Slay too, Like at one

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Speaker 2: point was in the conversation for one of the best

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Speaker 2: corners in the national.

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Speaker 3: Foot he was following the number one three top corner

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Speaker 3: in the league. He's got a ton of pass breakups

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Speaker 3: since career, a ton. When I went back to the

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Speaker 3: looking at stats, like wow, I didn't realize how often

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Speaker 3: he got hands on the football.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. No, And so you're absolutely right having those guys

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Speaker 2: in this setting, and we will lead off with Joey

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Speaker 2: Porter Junior here actually speaking about all those things. Take

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Speaker 2: a listen.

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Speaker 4: We have talked since the trade.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, what do you think?

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Speaker 4: I mean, I'm happy. We'd always been a fan of Ramsey.

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Speaker 6: So the fact that we got him on the squad

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Speaker 6: and I can learn from him, it's only gonna be

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Speaker 6: great for me.

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Speaker 7: Mike, come and talk yesterday a lot about matching up

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Speaker 7: with anybody playing man the man coverage king your favorite.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree with him.

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Speaker 6: You know, we had to talk about the other day,

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Speaker 6: and I agree with all the points he made up.

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Speaker 4: We got we got all elite. We got elite.

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Speaker 6: Corners on our team now, and I'm just happy about it.

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Speaker 4: So how do you see this playing out? Three at

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Speaker 6: I don't know, but I know he said, we're all

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Speaker 6: we just got to start it off with camp. As

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Speaker 6: for me, I really.

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Speaker 4: Have no clue, you know, So I don't know being traded,

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Speaker 4: you know, I was. I was uh. I was shocked

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Speaker 6: I came in. Meek was that guy. I always watched Meek.

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Speaker 6: I loved his game, respect this game, so kind of

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Speaker 6: some great additions while he left. So it's a bittersweet feeling.

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Speaker 8: Excited about the possibilities with the three of you, now

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Speaker 8: what you can do dramatically.

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Speaker 6: Back definitely, you know, I feel like it's gonna be

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Speaker 4: On our team. So it's gonna be it's gonna be

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Speaker 3: End up both playing press man.

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Speaker 4: What kind of impact point that I.

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Speaker 6: Feel like we'll have a lot. You know, he's been

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Speaker 8: This is this is why you have training camp. This

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Speaker 8: is why you have training camp. It's gonna it's gonna

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Speaker 8: within training camp. It's not just in between those white lines.

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Speaker 8: It's you know, in Rooney Hall and the cafeteria, in

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Speaker 8: you know, we jael together, we know one another, and

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Speaker 8: you know that's the beauty of it all. You know,

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Speaker 8: not a lot of teams have destination camps. Not a

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Speaker 8: we're just excited to to move forward and get this

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Speaker 7: It's been sort of theorized that they don't go out

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Speaker 3: I think it's possible.

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Speaker 5: On the line up and play ball wherever we need

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Speaker 5: to play ball, man, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 8: You know, I'm uh as we got so like I

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Speaker 5: Uh, we have made plays.

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Speaker 8: I've you know, speak for myself as well, I've made plays,

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Speaker 5: And uh, you know, we we're gonna win.

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Speaker 8: Games because of you know, God's willingness, selflessness, and that's

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Speaker 3: After it in here a while.

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Speaker 5: Have you talked to him much just about kind of

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Speaker 5: the division of labor with two highly productive tight ends

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Speaker 3: In the same offense.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I've been through this.

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Speaker 8: It would be my my third stint at this, you know,

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Speaker 5: And I'm excited to play with that.

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Speaker 8: And you know, when he first out the news, you

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Speaker 8: know he reached out immediately a sap and uh you

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Speaker 8: know it was it was it was a good feeling,

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Speaker 8: you know what I mean to you know, he's a

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Speaker 8: I'll be able to pass alone to him that I'm

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Speaker 8: excited for as well. And you know, listen, man, I

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Speaker 8: two box as well, you know what I'm saying. So

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Speaker 8: I'm always adepting and involved with my game and interested

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Speaker 8: and learn from his perspective as well. And so uh, man, listen, man,

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Speaker 8: Pat Patts has established himself here and uh, you know,

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Speaker 8: I'm coming to to coexist with him, you know what

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Speaker 2: Obs been with different teams, But what in your game

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Speaker 2: has led to the increase in receptions or especially how

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Speaker 9: Couple of years.

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Speaker 8: Ops, Ops opportunity, That's what this game is, man, and

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Speaker 8: and taking advantage of it, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 8: The last two years you know, been with Art I'm sorry,

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Speaker 8: obviously with Mike and very similar offenses, and uh, at

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Speaker 8: the end of the days, you know, building rapport with

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Speaker 8: and this is my time with Aaron and so you

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Speaker 8: know that's something that I gotta you know, we we collective,

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Speaker 8: know it'll be a good task and a good challenge

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Speaker 8: for for all of us.

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Speaker 6: What's your outlook on Aaron Rodgers?

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Speaker 8: See as far as he's so adaptable and and and

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Speaker 8: and adjustable. You know, he's been around for long. You know, man,

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Speaker 8: I remember watching a Rob when I was in middle school.

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Speaker 5: Any concern of the guy you watched when you were

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Speaker 4: Getting a little not at all, not at all.

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Speaker 5: The arm still works. The arm still works, man.

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Speaker 8: And uh, you know, the the the i Q has

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Speaker 8: And so you know, we just got to do our

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Speaker 8: know he I still see when I when I watched

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Speaker 8: his film from last year, I've seen Aaron Rodgers that

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Speaker 5: My whole life.

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Speaker 8: You know, I don't know you guys watch films evaluated

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Speaker 5: That's just my stance on it.

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Speaker 7: We were Coachman about all the defensive bats and the Steelers,

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Speaker 7: you're at a symbol and said, don't think of him

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Speaker 3: And he said, you think of think of him as

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Speaker 2: Is that sort of underscoring what you had said previously about.

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Speaker 7: How you're gonna be utilized?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, you know I could definitely add to

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Speaker 8: that again, that goes that speaks to that versatility fact thorough,

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Speaker 8: score a touchdown from every position except quarterback.

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Speaker 5: We might need to throw that in there this this camp.

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Speaker 2: Something that we got to continue to do a year

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I do too, I do too. I'm really intrigued

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Speaker 2: Back on campus here in our pen ultimate segment of

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Speaker 2: the day. It looks like the kind of the nastiest

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Speaker 3: So you've been saying that for two days and it

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it is so a little bit more here to go?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and again this is something I should know. But

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Speaker 3: it through it on Twitter at Williamson nfl DK Metcalf

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Speaker 3: averaged eight point seven targets per game, with four games

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Speaker 3: of ninety nine yards or more and three touchdowns through

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Speaker 3: the first seven games of the year. So in the

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Speaker 3: first seven games of the year, he's averaging eight point

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Speaker 3: seven targets and it put up three basically or four

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Speaker 3: one hundred yard games. One of them was a ninety

444
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Speaker 3: nine yarder. That's why they phrased it the way they did.

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Speaker 3: But then what people need to know is he injured.

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Speaker 3: He injured his MCL in Week seven, and I think

447
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Speaker 3: he missed two games after that, and his numbers after

448
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Speaker 3: that injury were dramatically less. He was They weren't terrible,

449
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Speaker 3: He wasn't. He came back early. He's a tough guy.

450
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Speaker 3: They kind of switched the focus to Jackson Smith and Jigba.

451
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Speaker 3: Their pass protection was really, really, really bad. They drafted

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Speaker 3: a guard in the first round, you know, to show

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Speaker 3: you you know that they realized it. So the downfield

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Speaker 3: stuff wasn't there. It was a lot of get the

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Speaker 3: ball out hands that Smith Didjigba, who's a real possession

456
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Speaker 3: middle of the field, not high a dot player, where

457
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Speaker 3: Metcalf's a downfield dude. So his numbers last year don't

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Speaker 3: blow you away if you just look at the stat line. Now,

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Speaker 3: he's gone for nine hundred yards or more every year

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Speaker 3: as a off I mean, so they weren't bad, don't

461
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Speaker 3: get me wrong, but he was really in the midst

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Speaker 3: of having his best and most productive year pre injury,

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Speaker 3: pre injury. Now does that mean he'll do that here?

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Speaker 3: I don't know, but he still has to, you know

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Speaker 3: what I mean. And maybe he's even ascending because it's

466
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Speaker 3: remarkable to me. That was a great wide receiver draft.

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Speaker 3: That's all year that they fantastic Seears took Deontae Johnson.

468
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Speaker 3: I mean, like, it was a great receiver draft. But

469
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Speaker 3: that guy, it is, was the fastest and biggest and

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Speaker 3: best looking of all of them.

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Speaker 2: Oh he was. That was my first combine, Maniki right,

472
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Speaker 2: that was my first combine and he was the story

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Speaker 2: of that combine. Oh yeah, yeah, Remember he walked into

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Speaker 2: the meeting with Pete Carroll with his shirt off, right,

475
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Speaker 2: Pete Carroll stood up like he was the story of

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Speaker 2: that combine. Where is he gonna get drafted because he's

477
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Speaker 2: such a freak but doesn't turn like the tie.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the thing. His three cone drill was the

479
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Speaker 3: same as Tom Brady's, and it actually was, you know,

480
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Speaker 3: and that's a little unfair. You know, maybe just wasn't

481
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Speaker 3: good at the three Showdren, but he was not a

482
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Speaker 3: great change of direction athlete and he probably never will be.

483
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Speaker 3: But something down when I say all the time, these

484
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Speaker 3: guys are allowed to get better, you know, like he

485
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Speaker 3: was very much a vertical receiver, but over the course

486
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Speaker 3: of his Seahawks career, and I think something you're gonna

487
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Speaker 3: see a lot more here is in breaking routes, slants,

488
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Speaker 3: digs over the middle, crossers, things like that. And we've

489
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Speaker 3: seen a little bit of it in these last two

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Speaker 3: days too. So I assume the Steelers think, by the

491
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Speaker 3: nature of the contract and what they gave up for

492
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Speaker 3: him in draft compensation, that they feel like he is

493
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Speaker 3: still an evolving player and the healthy version of him

494
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Speaker 3: last year shows yeah, you know, so I mean again,

495
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Speaker 3: we can talk about fantasy or not, but he's clearly

496
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Speaker 3: going to lead the team in targets when he's healthy,

497
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Speaker 3: maybe even a bigger clip than then. And I had

498
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Speaker 3: read this today too, and I missed it. I guess

499
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Speaker 3: somebody asked Arthur Smith, you know, maybe it was a

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Speaker 3: mini camp or OTAs or one of the last times

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Speaker 3: he was interviewed. One of the press people here asked him,

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Speaker 3: you know, do you plan on being as run heavy

503
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Speaker 3: as you were your first year's coordinator? And he said

504
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Speaker 3: something along the lines of, you don't bring you don't

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Speaker 3: trade for DK Metcalf and sign Aaron Rodgers to run

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Speaker 3: the wishboe correct.

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Speaker 2: Correct, you know we're not running the veer out here yet. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so, yes, I'm sure this would be run a

509
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Speaker 3: heavy offense. Yes, I'm sure it'll be a tight end

510
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Speaker 3: centric personnel packages. But Metcalf's never going to leave the field,

511
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Speaker 3: and it wouldn't shock me if he averages more than

512
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Speaker 3: eight point seven year targets per game, you know, and boy,

513
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Speaker 3: they're using them down by the red zone a lot, obviously,

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Speaker 3: Tomlin you said Tomlin had a funny.

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Speaker 2: Yeah after or when he was just doing his you know,

516
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Speaker 2: ten ten to fifteen minutes ago his kind of post

517
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Speaker 2: practice stuff up at the up at the Gymnasium or

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Speaker 2: I think maybe it was down at the Rogers Center

519
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Speaker 2: or regardless, somebody asked him about, you know, the beautiful

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Speaker 2: touchdown connection that Rogers and DK had in this and

521
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Speaker 2: seven shots that he said, I've anticipated that I'm not

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Speaker 2: going to play in a parade. Yeah, I'm not gonna

523
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Speaker 2: throw throw a pep rally. But if you watch the clip,

524
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Speaker 2: he's like smiling and you know, like he's like, I've

525
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Speaker 2: been thinking about that all off season, and I think

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Speaker 2: we all have.

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Speaker 3: Yes. One thing about Metcalf that people think he's a

528
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Speaker 3: one for one with Pickens in a lot of ways. Yes,

529
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Speaker 3: they're big, they're fast, they can get downfield, but Pickens

530
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Speaker 3: as well as any receiver in the league, say what

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Speaker 3: you want about him, was phenomenal with contested catch, those

532
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Speaker 3: combat cans, fifty to fifty balls, contorting your body, mossing guys.

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Speaker 2: His highlight, his highlight tape, those one handed sta catches

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Speaker 2: where he's falling.

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Speaker 3: Back playing even bigger than he is. Yes, Metcalf really

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Speaker 3: doesn't do that.

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Speaker 2: He doesn't have the catch radius like Jordan or.

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Speaker 3: The body control, you know, like his highlight tape in

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Speaker 3: terms of contested catches, or just go up and get it.

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Speaker 3: Might not blow you away like you think he is

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Speaker 3: because he's so big, you know, he's not. Just when

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Speaker 3: I was a pit we just throw the ball in

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Speaker 3: the air and Larry go get it, you know what

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Speaker 3: I mean.

545
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Speaker 2: Like plan gets texas A and M twenty times shoulder

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Speaker 2: of three.

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Speaker 3: And d K can do some of that, but not

548
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Speaker 3: as much as as Pickens. Most of the big plays

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Speaker 3: that he's created in his career are running past someone,

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Speaker 3: I mean, because.

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Speaker 2: He's that explosion that we saw in that run rep

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Speaker 2: where he I mean, he's got that galloping like a horse,

553
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Speaker 2: you know, or like.

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Speaker 3: Forget about it, you know, like like a man Mary

555
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Speaker 3: Lemu would get to pocket take two big shrits and defenseman,

556
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Speaker 3: Yeah that's enough the ice. Yeah, the acceleration for a

557
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Speaker 3: big man is rare. So to no shock, DK Metcalf

558
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Speaker 3: is very impressive and to no shock seeing him in

559
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Speaker 3: person is even more impressive. But I also think he's

560
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Speaker 3: getting better as a player. You know, he's a more

561
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Speaker 3: well rounded player, you know, and in the first half

562
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Speaker 3: of last season really showed that. The numbers reflected, I.

563
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Speaker 2: Mean just twenty seven years old, which is a lot

564
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Speaker 2: of times like about that absolute peak for wide receivers.

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Speaker 2: And I know he was listen. He was playing with

566
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Speaker 2: a quarterback that I know you are higher on than most.

567
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Speaker 2: I obviously appreciate. And Jo Smith last year in Seattle,

568
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Speaker 2: who's a good quarterback.

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Speaker 3: He's a good quarterback, but solid NFL starting court.

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Speaker 2: But with with Aaron Rodgers in this offense, what what

571
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Speaker 2: he could do? It's a lot, It's a lot.

572
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Speaker 3: Here's two concerns, though, and they're always gonna be concerns.

573
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Speaker 3: I mean, you're building a puzzle here, and not every

574
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Speaker 3: puzzle piece is always gonna match exactly. There's times over

575
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Speaker 3: Metcalf's career that he has not been the sharpest route runner.

576
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Speaker 3: He could be a bit of a drifter, you know,

577
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Speaker 3: like if you run this at eleven, he runs it

578
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Speaker 3: at eleven and a half yards or twelve, and he's

579
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Speaker 3: so big and it often it doesn't matter. Well. Rogers

580
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Speaker 3: hates that more than any quarterback out there. He hates

581
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Speaker 3: that he because he's such an anticipatory thrower. I'm throwing

582
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Speaker 3: to his spot that I need you to be.

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Speaker 2: You better be seven and a half yards, not seven,

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Speaker 2: not eight.

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Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, I'm doing my job. I'm gonna throw it

586
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Speaker 3: where you're supposed to be.

587
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Speaker 2: You know, we like we like Monty Python references you. Yeah,

588
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Speaker 2: is there anyone else we can talk to? Three is

589
00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:12,040
Speaker 2: the number of counting, not two, not four, not five. Three.

590
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Speaker 2: That's Aaron Rodgers.

591
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Speaker 3: Yes, And as great as Garrett Wilson was, they had

592
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:18,920
Speaker 3: a lot of disconnects because Wilson's not all He's a

593
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:22,520
Speaker 3: great separator, he's a great athlete, but he'll take he'll

594
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Speaker 3: take too long to get out of his breaks or

595
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Speaker 3: hand fight with somebody or be it. But he should

596
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Speaker 3: be ten, you know.

597
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Speaker 2: Am I then right to assume that, like you think,

598
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Speaker 2: like George Pickens might not have been the best fit

599
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Speaker 2: for Aaron Rodgers despite how talented he is.

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Speaker 3: Maybe not, maybe not. But the other thing Rogers has

601
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Speaker 3: been maybe the best in history because like I didn't,

602
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Speaker 3: I'm you know, just I had never even heard this

603
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Speaker 3: term before Rogers made it a common term. Is the

604
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Speaker 3: back shoulder fate back? Yeah, the back shoulder throws. Like

605
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Speaker 3: I remember hearing that, like on Monday Football when he's

606
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Speaker 3: doing it, Jordy Nelson. They're like this is something that

607
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Speaker 3: we've ever seen in the league where you know, you're

608
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Speaker 3: running out of the fields as we can basically, and

609
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,240
Speaker 3: he's thrown it to the other shoulder, not leading you,

610
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:06,359
Speaker 3: and the d back really has no chance, you know.

611
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:09,480
Speaker 3: But that's such a communication thing, that's such a rep thing.

612
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:13,040
Speaker 3: We'll see if Metcalf can do it, you know, if

613
00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:16,240
Speaker 3: I'm not saying he can or can't, but it's something

614
00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:18,600
Speaker 3: that they're going to have to practice a lot.

615
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Speaker 2: He was the three four, five, six ninth wide receiver.

616
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Speaker 2: Takes DK Metcalf the.

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Speaker 3: Like my daughter if she was picking up teams at recess,

618
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Speaker 3: would pick him first.

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Speaker 2: AJ Brown should have probably been the first wide receiver,

620
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Speaker 2: but should have been one and two.

621
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Speaker 3: But just like walking in the door, A J.

622
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Speaker 2: Brown is the fourth wide receiver taken and that's your.

623
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Speaker 3: Andy Isabella went ahead of DK Metcalf. Yeah, which is

624
00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:45,680
Speaker 3: crazy crazy, but it's a really good class fell a

625
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Speaker 3: little bit.

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Speaker 2: Yeah jj R Sega Whiteside, Oh man, I know that one.

627
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Speaker 10: Eagles fans still upset who was the first one in

628
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:55,639
Speaker 10: that year, Hollywood Brown. It took a while until they

629
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Speaker 10: went but then there was a really huge run on

630
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Speaker 10: and then Nikkill Harry to the Patriots. But then and Deebo,

631
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Speaker 10: Samuel aj Brown, Mikole Hardman, Yeah, DK metcalf Deontae Johnson,

632
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Speaker 10: Terry McLaurin is a third round pick as well, haunter

633
00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 10: Renfro was in that class. A lot of big names

634
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Speaker 10: and there Miles Boykin and a Keen Butler who have

635
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:16,920
Speaker 10: been part of this parish before. So yeah, always always

636
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Speaker 10: fun to see these things come full circle. And I

637
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Speaker 10: do I remember that first combine DK metcalf kind of

638
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:22,880
Speaker 10: being the big talking point for everybody.

639
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Speaker 2: Is he worthy of a first round pick? Where should

640
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 2: he be taking? All that? If they redid you know that.

641
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:31,240
Speaker 3: Colan teammates right, yeah, at Old.

642
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:33,960
Speaker 2: Miss and yeah, and then you know that Old Miss

643
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:36,240
Speaker 2: offense which is a little bit different, you know than

644
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Speaker 2: than kind of a traditional NFL offense. But yeah, that's

645
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 2: one of those classic you know, if you did the

646
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Speaker 2: ten years later, your redraft type thing, DK metcalfe ain't

647
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Speaker 2: last until pick sixty four. Yeah, no chance.

648
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Speaker 3: It's funny. I always wanted I went there to be

649
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:51,680
Speaker 3: a book, and maybe I'll write it someday when I'm old,

650
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:54,240
Speaker 3: Like draft history, the history of the NFL draft, Like.

651
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Speaker 2: It'll be a cool book.

652
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Speaker 3: Like why did we take the six y five, two

653
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Speaker 3: and forty pound guy that ran in the like low

654
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 3: four threes. Why would he the you know, that mid

655
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:07,840
Speaker 3: second round pick and we took all these other receivers

656
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 3: ahead of them. Like sometimes it's sometimes scouting is that easy?

657
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 3: Like just give me the big, strong, fast guy.

658
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 2: You walk in, you see what looks good, and you

659
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 2: take it. You know.

660
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:20,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, like I said, if my daughter looks at him

661
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:22,280
Speaker 3: and says, I went to that guy on my team,

662
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 3: maybe we should take that guy the game.

663
00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:26,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, Sometimes you're right. The science of it is obviously

664
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 2: very important, but sometimes too it's it's right in front

665
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:31,720
Speaker 2: of you, staring you in the face, and uh, we've

666
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:34,600
Speaker 2: got DK metcalf right in front of us after in Latrobe.

667
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 2: But it is, it's it's a lot of fun. These

668
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 2: first two days have been fun watching him, watching Aaron Rodgers,

669
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:41,840
Speaker 2: that that new look offense, and that's going to continue

670
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:44,160
Speaker 2: obviously the next two days. But I think we'll really

671
00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:47,080
Speaker 2: go to another level on Tuesday when the pads go.

672
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 3: One other note I want to make just as it

673
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 3: stands right now, I think their two receiver sets will

674
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:55,240
Speaker 3: be Austin and Metcalf, yes, who obviously are very different

675
00:29:55,480 --> 00:30:00,480
Speaker 3: size players. But just in terms of speed straight line speed,

676
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 3: track speed, maybe there's one or two pairings faster. Maybe

677
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:09,480
Speaker 3: maybe like Miami comes to mind, Miami, yep. And I

678
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:12,720
Speaker 3: mean just winning a race, just just track style, right, yeah,

679
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:16,000
Speaker 3: just pure speed for run first offense. I mean like

680
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 3: Seattle was first or second in the league, and how

681
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:23,480
Speaker 3: often they saw too a too high shell. It was

682
00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:25,800
Speaker 3: all because him, right, yeah, right, So you're gonna get

683
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 3: people away from the line of scrimmage.

684
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:30,880
Speaker 2: Yep, which opens things up. And you know, for a

685
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Speaker 2: guy like Caleb Johnson, who's got speed to burn as

686
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:35,120
Speaker 2: well too, one of just a few guys who hit

687
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 2: twenty two miles per hour last season.

688
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 3: We did see Roman Wilson.

689
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 2: He can run, can move.

690
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 3: These guys can be better than Van Jefferson, right, you know.

691
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:45,480
Speaker 2: Maybe you add someone like gab Davis who's got some

692
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:49,880
Speaker 2: speed down to Yeah, it's all it's all fun to

693
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:53,240
Speaker 2: see it all come together in the beginning of planner.

694
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:54,480
Speaker 2: You can you can see the plan.

695
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:56,840
Speaker 3: It makes me crazy when fans are like, this team's

696
00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:58,960
Speaker 3: got no plan. I don't get him, like this is

697
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:01,200
Speaker 3: the plan is so simple. It takes a little bit.

698
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:03,400
Speaker 2: Of the last In the last year or two when

699
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:06,360
Speaker 2: people question that, I could at least understand the questioning

700
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 2: of it. But now I think it's crystal clear.

701
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 3: It's crystal clear, right'. It's it's they're setting theirself up

702
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 3: the draft.

703
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 2: I was going to say, it's to build this nest.

704
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 2: It's to build the draft capital at the same time

705
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 2: and go be aggressive at your guy.

706
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 3: Now, yes, they have some older guys, but they don't

707
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 3: have that much guaranteed money tied up past this year period.

708
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 2: Got a lot of salary cap space and a lot

709
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 2: of draft captain.

710
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:28,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. You're not compromised. It's not like you're pushing

711
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 3: all your chips into win now. No, no right, trying

712
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 3: to win now. But you and if you.

713
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:34,719
Speaker 2: Do, if you have a great season, awesome, that's your

714
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 2: launching point going forward. If you don't, if we don't

715
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:39,440
Speaker 2: have a great so you end up missing the playoffs

716
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 2: something like that, Like, Okay, you're not tied to all

717
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:43,680
Speaker 2: these guys for a long time or a lot of money.

718
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:46,080
Speaker 3: You've so much liquidity and turnability.

719
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:47,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, you turn the page next year pretty easily.

720
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 3: And who knows I mean again, I'm guessing, and I

721
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 3: know Rogers has come out and said this is probably,

722
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 3: you know, likely my last year. But what if he's

723
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 3: awesome and says this went really well, Let's do one

724
00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 3: more year. Okay, that's not a bad problem.

725
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 2: Eleven or twelve games. You want a playoff game, you know,

726
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 2: or something right or something like that.

727
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, exactly, Yeah.

728
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 2: I think I think it's it's exciting, it's a lot

729
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 2: of fun, and we're starting to see it all come

730
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Speaker 2: together here on this day number two of practice at St.

731
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Speaker 2: Vincent College in Latrobe, Pennsylvania. One more segment to go

732
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Speaker 2: wrap this thing up. On the other side, West Shuler

733
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Speaker 2: and Matt Williamson for a special edition of The Drive Here.

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Speaker 2: Final segment here on day two. Our favorite time of day, Matthew,

744
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 2: not only because it's almost quitting time, but also because

745
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 2: we got the grounds crew out doing their thing watering

746
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:26,239
Speaker 2: and mowing, and it's like it's they say they got

747
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 2: a guy with a hose, but then there's a guy

748
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 2: behind pulling the hose. It's like when you see the camera.

749
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:31,720
Speaker 2: It's like when you see the camera guys on the

750
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:33,760
Speaker 2: sidelines on NFL Sunday and they got the guy running

751
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 2: running behind him all the yeah, exactly right, exactly right.

752
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 2: Tomorrow will be a big day on campus for a

753
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Speaker 2: couple of night a couple of reasons. It's the first

754
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Speaker 2: Saturday practice, first weekend practice, which is always always a

755
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:52,120
Speaker 2: ton of people, but it will also be the unveiling,

756
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Speaker 2: and we'll have it here live at noon on Steelers

757
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Speaker 2: Nation Radio on the Steelers Audio Network for you carrying

758
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Speaker 2: it live as well. The Hall of Honor Class of

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty five announcement of course Bob Labrielle and Rob

760
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 2: King with Art Rooney. The second will be doing the

761
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:10,960
Speaker 2: special presentation down at the Rogers Center. Of the four

762
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 2: newest inductees, Ted tweets us wondering, who do we think

763
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 2: is going to get in last year? Wildie Parker, Casey Hampton,

764
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:23,920
Speaker 2: Dick Lebo, Jason Gilden. Okay, that was last year's classer.

765
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 2: I'm gonna run through some names here before you do.

766
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 3: You threw out one Craig.

767
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:32,839
Speaker 2: That was our yea, that was our you know I mean,

768
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Speaker 2: And that's not like a that's not like a nice

769
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:39,240
Speaker 2: pat on the back thing to do. He earned.

770
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:40,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's gonna happened last year.

771
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:43,239
Speaker 2: He gave four or five decades of his life to

772
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:46,240
Speaker 2: this organization as a player and then a broadcaster, many.

773
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Speaker 3: Different Right, Well, it was radio shows with us and

774
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:49,760
Speaker 3: you know all kind.

775
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's you know, I think you and I

776
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 2: have said this before. We have these conversations.

777
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:55,360
Speaker 3: To me.

778
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:56,840
Speaker 2: One of the things is like should this guy be

779
00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:58,680
Speaker 2: a Hall of Famer? If you have to ask, you

780
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 2: know what I mean, it's answered lately with punching Wolf.

781
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 2: I don't think you have to ask. Like I think,

782
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:05,960
Speaker 2: when you think of a Steelers Hall of Honor, a

783
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:08,960
Speaker 2: Steelers museum, you can't really tell the history of the

784
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 2: story of the franchise without those two. And I know

785
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 2: that that sounds crazy because they weren't Super Bowl champions.

786
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:17,360
Speaker 3: They weren't the best offensive lineman in Steeler history.

787
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:20,440
Speaker 2: But you can't tell you long to tell the story

788
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 2: of the Steelers without mentioning Tounching Wolf.

789
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 3: And unfortunately we lost Wolf this past year. And but

790
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 3: if you would have went in last year, would be

791
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:31,879
Speaker 3: wouldn't have had not? Absolutely absolutely so, I think he's

792
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 3: one that's different than the rest, of.

793
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 2: Course, totally totally, But we would, we would. I gotta

794
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:38,279
Speaker 2: think if if not, because I don't know, I mean

795
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:40,880
Speaker 2: when they had this decided and done and all that.

796
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 2: But if not this year, I gotta think sooner rather

797
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 2: than later, for our for our dear friend, Craig Wolfley. Uh,

798
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 2: here's some names for you that I kind of hastily

799
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:51,440
Speaker 2: found and put together here that I believe and my

800
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:54,399
Speaker 2: quick research are not in the Steelers Hall of Honor.

801
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:59,920
Speaker 2: Gary Anderson, Plexico, Burrez, Ryan Clark, David Di Castro, Larry Foote,

802
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:01,800
Speaker 2: Ramon Foster, Frenchy Fuqua.

803
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:05,800
Speaker 3: Break them into like just five at a time. The

804
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:06,880
Speaker 3: Castro stands out of that.

805
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 2: The Castro stands out for sure, as does Marky's Pouncy.

806
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 3: Definitely.

807
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:12,840
Speaker 2: I wonder if they would And I know one of

808
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:14,239
Speaker 2: the things they do very well with the Hall of

809
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:16,920
Speaker 2: Honor classes Matt is they like to have different eras

810
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,440
Speaker 2: and everything represented. They don't want it to be all

811
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:22,719
Speaker 2: seventies like the So as cool as it would be

812
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:24,800
Speaker 2: to have him in together, they might want to separate

813
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:26,440
Speaker 2: that since they're since they're from.

814
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 3: I think both will go sooner.

815
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:33,799
Speaker 2: Absolutely, Pouncy is a lock, as is I think Joey Porter,

816
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 2: who is still not in Joey Porter, feels like like

817
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 2: a like a lock. Let's see here a couple other

818
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 2: guys who still aren't in uh San Antonio Holmes, not

819
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 2: in Brett Keesel, not in uh, Joey Porter, Marky's Pouncy,

820
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:52,440
Speaker 2: Antoine Randall, L. Cordell Stewart, like Taylor J. T. Thomas,

821
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Speaker 2: Keith Willis.

822
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 3: Keith Willis has a lot of sacks.

823
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 2: He's a lot like an all time great Ernie Holmes.

824
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 3: People think Ernie Holmes was the best of those four

825
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:04,920
Speaker 3: in his best day. Yeah, Like there's people that I've

826
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 3: heard historians or my dad or whatever being like when

827
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 3: he was at his best. Rule.

828
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:13,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, interesting, I would say Porter.

829
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:15,279
Speaker 3: To Castro and Palce, you the ones to stand out most.

830
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:17,919
Speaker 2: I think as like those, It's a matter of time

831
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:20,279
Speaker 2: when those guys. Yeah, yeah, yeah, when those guys get in.

832
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:23,520
Speaker 2: Gary Anderson's an interesting one to me.

833
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:25,800
Speaker 3: Him and mort and Anderson are like the best kickers

834
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 3: in the league for a decade plus.

835
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:30,880
Speaker 2: He is I think still or did Boswell just passed

836
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 2: to pass him, but he's Gary Anderson was or is

837
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:37,040
Speaker 2: now second in all time points in franchise history.

838
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I think it's clear that times are different.

839
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:41,879
Speaker 3: Kickers make more kicks now than ever. But I still

840
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:44,840
Speaker 3: think Boz is clearly the best Steeler kicker ever. But

841
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 3: that I mean Anderson was one of the best for

842
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:49,560
Speaker 3: sure of his era.

843
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 2: He's one of the best in the history I think

844
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 2: of the sport. Yeah, probably top ten if you look

845
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 2: at his points and his percentage and all that. So, yeah,

846
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:01,320
Speaker 2: that's that's interesting to Castro pouncing, Maybe they if you

847
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:03,799
Speaker 2: did something like where you put those two in, say

848
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:06,440
Speaker 2: with a Ernie Holmes and a Craig wolf Lee, I

849
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 2: think that would work. That's a lot of that's three

850
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 2: different eras amongst those four guys.

851
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:13,440
Speaker 3: Absolutely and big men would be representing quite well.

852
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe that's my four. No, it's hard for me

853
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:17,440
Speaker 2: not to say Joey Porter.

854
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:20,360
Speaker 3: Porter's strong too. I don't know that Holmes will get in.

855
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:22,279
Speaker 3: He just didn't last long and he also had a

856
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 3: run in with a law way back when I just

857
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 3: saying people don't famously he's the one that was didn't

858
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 3: last as long as the other three on the team,

859
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:33,239
Speaker 3: but also doesn't get the credit as the other three

860
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 3: of the Steel Curtain. But I just wanted to shout

861
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 3: out how good a football player he was.

862
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 2: What about Santonio Holmes, that's an interesting one to long

863
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 2: and Super Bowl MVP, But I don't know if he's

864
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 2: But Kevin Green is in and he was here for

865
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:47,399
Speaker 2: three years right now, I mean it's Kevin Green.

866
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 3: Santonio obviously has a highlight an unforgettable one.

867
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 2: Of the greatest one franchise.

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Speaker 3: Antoineand it's hard to narrow them down. There's some good

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Speaker 3: ones there, it is.

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Speaker 2: There's really some good ones. Keizel who was one.

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Speaker 3: I think is?

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Speaker 5: I think so?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I would say Wolf Aside, probably Pouncey and Joey Porter

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Speaker 2: are probably the ones with the strongest resumes and pounce.

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Speaker 3: Was considered a Cam Hayward like leader too. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 3: you know which, I think it carries a lot of weight.

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Speaker 2: It was one of my favorite conference helmet guy point

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Speaker 2: one helmet guy. We love our one helmet guys. One

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Speaker 2: of the things that we do every year one night

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Speaker 2: here when we're all you know, out hanging out in

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Speaker 2: the evening, is we'll have the conversation of all right,

883
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:30,880
Speaker 2: if you put all those guys on the team in

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Speaker 2: the locker room and you lock the door until there's

885
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 2: only one left standing, who would it be? The debate

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Speaker 2: was always Pouncy verse villain, aeva.

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Speaker 3: Military train.

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00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 2: One of them is like military train out of the conversation.

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Speaker 2: We shouldn't put a professional with amateurs in this in this.

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Speaker 3: Regard that he's also six nine and probably yeah, I.

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Speaker 2: Mean he was always the answer, but that's like you

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Speaker 2: almost had to take him out of a conversation type answer.

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Speaker 3: But Pouncey was a pretty cool line though with those guys, and.

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Speaker 2: It was awesome. They were so good. They were so

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Speaker 2: much fun.

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Speaker 3: Gilbert, Yeah, who would be a heavy line one.

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Speaker 2: Who wins that? It could be? It could be who

898
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Speaker 2: wins that conversation. Now, lock them all in there and

899
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Speaker 2: only one could come out.

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Speaker 3: People talking about Ramsey being a bulldog.

901
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Speaker 2: Size would hurt him. Yeah, and for pound thing, but

902
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Speaker 2: I I you know, the wrestlers would have a real advantage.

903
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Speaker 2: Maybe Zach Zach or Keanu Benton right or Peyton Wilson.

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Speaker 2: They were all very good. But again, Peyton Wilson if

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Speaker 2: he gets up against Keanu or Zach like with their

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Speaker 2: size and leverage.

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Speaker 3: I wonder if those ever joke about let's take it

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Speaker 3: to the mat.

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Speaker 2: They should. I mean they should not, but they should

910
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Speaker 2: so so Zach you'll heard you hate it, You'll you'll laugh.

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00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:44,479
Speaker 2: I know, no tackle.

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Speaker 3: They go against each other all the time, you know,

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Speaker 3: I know this.

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Speaker 2: And Motes used to joke about like Motes would you know,

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Speaker 2: like every couple of weeks he would he would like

916
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Speaker 2: team me up on the show to make a joke

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Speaker 2: out of it. Zach's high school wrestling record was one

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Speaker 2: hundred and fifty nine and two. Yeah, and one of

919
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Speaker 2: the ones that they were both his freshman year that

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Speaker 2: he lost, but one was because he got disqualified because

921
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Speaker 2: he didn't understand the rules, I remember, And then he

922
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Speaker 2: went back and beat that guy in in like the

923
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Speaker 2: state semi finals, you know, a couple months later. So

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Speaker 2: he really only had one. Yes, he really only had

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Speaker 2: one true loss in his entire UH wrestling career. And

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Speaker 2: I wonder Keanu Benton, I know, was pretty good too.

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Speaker 2: I wonder if I can find the road. Oh, absolutely

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Speaker 2: Keanu Benton high school wrestling record here, because it's got

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Speaker 2: to be pretty good too. Let's see one hundred and

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Speaker 2: twenty seven and eight at the Janesville Craig High School

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Speaker 2: in Wisconsin.

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Speaker 3: He was from Wisconsin.

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Speaker 2: Okay, state champion once, state runner up twice.

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Speaker 3: That's pretty good and wow, Okay, so he was a

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Speaker 3: champion too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, I know Peyton Peyton Wilson was as

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Speaker 2: well too, but again, yeah, he's kind of the different.

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Speaker 3: Body type, different body type the longer. Yeah, was an

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Speaker 3: interesting body type for linebackers.

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Speaker 2: He does. And you know what, we got like a

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Speaker 2: minute hereuntill we gotta go to break or close down

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Speaker 2: the show for the day. But tomorrow, let's make sure

943
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Speaker 2: we talk about Peyton Wilson tomorrow, Okay, Yeah, and his

944
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 2: ascension and what he could do this year.

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Speaker 3: Kind of pivotal guy too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, absolutely so there's a little teas for

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Speaker 2: you about something that we shall have discussed tomorrow, but

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Speaker 2: that will do it here for all of us today.

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Speaker 2: In terms of our day to on location coverage, big

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Speaker 2: thanks to our guy Justin Matt. He's been doing the

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Speaker 2: marathon back in our iHeart studios and as you and

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Speaker 2: I know, those are kind of gray and dark and

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Speaker 2: lifeless studios windows. It could be three am, it could

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00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:37,920
Speaker 2: be three pm. It could be ninety degrees or snowing outside,

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Speaker 2: and you've got no idea. So big thanks to Justin

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Speaker 2: for holding us down back at the ranch all day.

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Speaker 2: C J here on site for Matt Williamson. I'm Wes Shuler.

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Speaker 2: Will be back tomorrow for another day of full coverage.

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