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Speaker 2: JP Shadwick reunited with our good friend Jeff Logo. It
Speaker 2: good after dude, afternoon, JP. How you been I'm great? Yeah, great,
Speaker 2: welcome back. Yeah, it feels good to be back. I've
Speaker 2: been gone for so long. I didn't I didn't recognize
Speaker 2: you when you walked I know, right, I'm all clean shaven.
Speaker 2: Now you've got a haircut, you know, fresh as daisy. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I else see you need to know.
Speaker 1: That's that's it.
Speaker 2: That's all we need. I had had a nice week off, though,
Speaker 2: I guess it was kind of all right, Hey, you're
Speaker 2: on health and Wellness day. Mental, Yeah, okay, physical, mental,
Speaker 2: all the above. I need a lot of those mental
Speaker 2: health days, rack them up, uh plenty to get to
Speaker 2: of course, we'll hear from James Gladstone GM of the Jaguars.
Speaker 2: Caught up with John believe you haven't even mentioned the
Speaker 2: draft yet.
Speaker 1: I just I.
Speaker 2: Literally just said three weeks to the NFL, right, I know,
Speaker 2: but that's attention to the open. But you just threw it,
Speaker 2: like rushed it aside, like it's not even a main story,
Speaker 2: like the league meetings down in what was it, Palm
Speaker 2: Beach was a bigger story than the draft that's coming
Speaker 2: up in Green Bay because it.
Speaker 1: Just happened, and there's quotes out of it, and.
Speaker 2: I know, but it was it's a lot of fluff. Yeah,
Speaker 2: And we went through the some of the rules change
Speaker 2: potential rule changes a couple of weeks ago, and uh,
Speaker 2: and I was kind of chuckling when when some of
Speaker 2: the announcements were made of some of these changes that happened.
Speaker 2: But I mean, at the end of the day, I mean,
Speaker 2: right now, the lifeblood of every franchise is the draft.
Speaker 2: The draft talk should be paramount every single day, Like
Speaker 2: number won't care if there's a league owners meeting tomorrow. Again,
Speaker 2: what about Okay, well what about next week? Off season program?
Speaker 2: First year head coach, new staff, establishing the culture. I mean,
Speaker 2: it's raizing the floor of the team, the whole deal.
Speaker 2: I mean, the ecosystem a win. Are they going to
Speaker 2: win games next week?
Speaker 1: Who knows?
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, if it does go well, that's
Speaker 2: not a first impressions. Look report, it's gonna make headlines
Speaker 2: because it's a big deal.
Speaker 1: I get it.
Speaker 2: You know, the first time the players get to be
Speaker 2: with the coaches, it's awesome, it's great. But the reality is,
Speaker 2: you want to get this team better, get better players,
Speaker 2: and what's going to happen in a couple of weeks
Speaker 2: in Green Bay That's what matters most. James Gladstone and
Speaker 2: his guys and the coaching staff, they need to be
Speaker 2: on point that moment happens at Green Bay and they're
Speaker 2: on the phone and they're on the clock. That's where
Speaker 2: this team gets better right then and there. That's where
Speaker 2: they've got to be on time. And I'm looking forward
Speaker 2: to it. I mean I've been like, how for I mean, yeah,
Speaker 2: you must sounds like you are. Well, I'm looking forward
Speaker 2: to it because look, this organization has what's the right word.
Speaker 1: I can think of a lot of words, but.
Speaker 2: It has fallen short in April many times, many times,
Speaker 2: and there's been many a April's where after the draft happened,
Speaker 2: you're like, yeah, that was a good draft, and then
Speaker 2: I'll say that though, well, I mean everybody does. You're right,
Speaker 2: everybody does. But it matters when year one and year
Speaker 2: two and year three are completed, and then you go, oh,
Speaker 2: how did we do? I mean, I'll never forget you
Speaker 2: go back, you know, to many Jaguar drafts and you
Speaker 2: felt good about it. But at the conclusion of year three,
Speaker 2: which is kind of your gauge of whether or not
Speaker 2: a draft was successful or not, at the end of
Speaker 2: year three you were like, one.
Speaker 1: Very good, We're drafted again to take the place of
Speaker 1: this guy we drafted.
Speaker 2: Well, no, then they go into free agency in the
Speaker 2: next couple of years and spend a bunch of money
Speaker 2: because they weren't drafting very well, well, here's your chance.
Speaker 2: This is your chance to right the ship and to
Speaker 2: get it right as an organanization, and this April draft
Speaker 2: is where it has to start. James Gladstone's got to
Speaker 2: be on point. It reminds me a lot of like
Speaker 2: college football recruiting. Never in the history of college football
Speaker 2: has there been a bad recruiting class. Just ask the
Speaker 2: school who did it. Of course, I mean they're all geniuses.
Speaker 2: But I mean it's look, it's uh, it's all part
Speaker 2: of the campaign. I mean, it's it's all part of
Speaker 2: the positivity. And look, that's the great thing about the
Speaker 2: off seasons. I mean, if everybody's undefeated and hope spring's eternal.
Speaker 2: But I mean you've got to have the Jimmy's and
Speaker 2: the Johosh Okay, well let's you know for the simple Well,
Speaker 2: we'll push Lei'll talk about any draft stuff at all.
Speaker 1: I think we're gonna talk about it right now.
Speaker 2: We're going to push Leam Cohen's comments that you don't
Speaker 2: care about apparently from this watched the whole interview. Well good,
Speaker 2: I mean, but some people listening might not have heard
Speaker 2: some of this, so we're going to have some of
Speaker 2: this a little bit later. By the way, season program,
Speaker 2: I will say this, I do enjoy listening to both
Speaker 2: Liam Cohen and and Gladstone. I think, you know, because
Speaker 2: there's been a lot made about how good of a
Speaker 2: communicator James Gladstone is, but Liam Cohen is an excellent
Speaker 2: communicator as well. I enjoy listening to what he has
Speaker 2: to say. And uh, and by the way, when's the
Speaker 2: first episode of The Hunt coming out today? I've been
Speaker 2: I've gotten all these teasers today today tonight, seven o'clock awesome. Yeah, wait,
Speaker 2: don't have a teaser coming up on this show. It'll
Speaker 2: be because I've been seeing all these teasers on Jaguars
Speaker 2: dot com and I like when I'm hearing so far
Speaker 2: and I'm just sitting there going, I can't When is
Speaker 2: the first episode coming out?
Speaker 1: Seven o'clock Jaguars YouTube tonight. Can't wait.
Speaker 2: I'll be watching it tonight and unprecedented access outstanding. It
Speaker 2: should be great. We'll have a teaser of that coming up.
Speaker 2: The Jaguars have the number five pick in the NFL draft.
Speaker 2: For now, forget you got some inte. No, I have
Speaker 2: no insight whatsoever. But I'm a big believer. I know
Speaker 2: that James Gladstone said that he's a big believer in
Speaker 2: acquiring more draft capital and always having as much draft
Speaker 2: capital as you possibly can. They've got now, just to
Speaker 2: preface this, they do have the most draft picks this
Speaker 2: year and next year.
Speaker 1: Of any team in the league.
Speaker 2: Great, great, let's get more, get some more, just more,
Speaker 2: get some more. If there's a way that you can
Speaker 2: trade back from five, I would love to see this
Speaker 2: team trade back from five.
Speaker 1: How far down are you going?
Speaker 2: I'll go down in the teams. I'm okay with that.
Speaker 1: You still need a player that can co produce now,
Speaker 1: and if you're.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can get that, you can get that. You
Speaker 2: can absolutely get that if you go down into the teams.
Speaker 2: But I mean, here, here's here's why I really think
Speaker 2: that this draft. It has a couple of quarterbacks and
Speaker 2: a couple I mean elite players at the top, and
Speaker 2: then those quarterbacks elite players. No, we're not, They're just quarterbacks,
Speaker 2: all right, you know. Caleb Williams was an elite quarterback prospect.
Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence was an elite quarterback prospect. Cam Ward and
Speaker 2: should Hear Sanders are not in that category the quarterbacks
Speaker 2: that a lot of teams need quarterbacks. Now, cam Ward
Speaker 2: makes some froze that are special, I mean special, but
Speaker 2: the total body of work is not anywhere near Caleb
Speaker 2: Williams or Trevor Lawrence in my opinion, he does some
Speaker 2: things that you go what are you thinking? What are
Speaker 2: you doing? And should her Sanders have some of the
Speaker 2: same moments, and I think at times ball placement an
Speaker 2: issue with him. Trying to extend to play too often
Speaker 2: is an issue with him. But Abdull Carter from Penn
Speaker 2: State and Travis Hunter from Colorado, I mean, you're you're
Speaker 2: talking cream of the crop. So you take those two
Speaker 2: guys and then the two quarterbacks, and then after that,
Speaker 2: I think there's a lot of guys that are very
Speaker 2: closely rated. And the Jaguars picked fifth. So in theory,
Speaker 2: if those four are gone, do you try to trade back.
Speaker 2: I would like to see them to try to trade back.
Speaker 2: Is there somebody after that though, that a team would
Speaker 2: be willing to trade up for. That's the big question,
Speaker 2: you know, And I mean maybe they trade for one
Speaker 2: of those top four guys. Now, if a quarterback slides
Speaker 2: back somehow, some way. Could that end up being a
Speaker 2: possibility of the Jaguars maybe orchestrat in the trade. Maybe
Speaker 2: the quarterback is always something that allows people to be
Speaker 2: a willing trade possibility. The offensive line prospects, there's some
Speaker 2: really good ones.
Speaker 1: I think you've got.
Speaker 2: If you were back into the teams, or even move
Speaker 2: back a couple of spots, you've got an opportunity to
Speaker 2: pick up a really good offensive line, really good defensive lineman.
Speaker 2: I think the big guys in this draft. It's a
Speaker 2: good draft. Wide receivers. I don't think you'd be in
Speaker 2: a market for the wide receiver in the first round anyway.
Speaker 2: Mason Graham like him, like him solid, A lot.
Speaker 1: Of people like him. He's mocked everywhere.
Speaker 2: Great hands, I mean, and that's the guy that you've
Speaker 2: seen mocked with the Jaguars another place. And I like him.
Speaker 2: The only thing I think he's got some limitations his length.
Speaker 2: He's done have great length. Not a great pass rusher,
Speaker 2: great football player though, can great hands, great uh taking
Speaker 2: on the blocks, does all that stuff really well. But
Speaker 2: he's in he is He in the category of Abdul Carter,
Speaker 2: Travis Hunter, Oh no, if he if he was if
Speaker 2: he picked in the top four, I don't think he is,
Speaker 2: you know, but I like him, don't.
Speaker 1: Get me wrong. But if you trade back and pick him.
Speaker 2: Up, yeah, well if you like him, I don't think
Speaker 2: you'd get him by trading back. I think it's an interest.
Speaker 2: It's an interesting question, and I would love to know
Speaker 2: what they're thinking is about a Mason Graham or a
Speaker 2: lot of teams, what their thought process is with a
Speaker 2: Mason Graham very high floor. But I think the question
Speaker 2: with him is is how high is the ceiling? I mean,
Speaker 2: because when you're in that top five, you're looking for
Speaker 2: intangibly rich, great football players right right to use James's term,
Speaker 2: he's a great football player and tangible's off the chart.
Speaker 2: Is he a game changer? I think that's a question
Speaker 2: that when you're drafting in the top five, you're looking
Speaker 2: for somebody that's a game changer. And I'm not saying
Speaker 2: he is, and I'm not saying he's not. But is
Speaker 2: he in that Travis Hunter, Abdul Carter category a game changer?
Speaker 2: How about Tyler Warren? Penn State tight end jack of
Speaker 2: all trades does a million things well, but he's a
Speaker 2: tight end. You got a good tight end. And Brenton
Speaker 2: Strange he signed two guys in free agent teammates in college,
Speaker 2: by the way, So I like him? Do I like
Speaker 2: him at five?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 2: Okay, there's a lot of good offensive linemen too. There
Speaker 2: are who do you like amongst the offensive line besides
Speaker 2: the guy at Alabama.
Speaker 1: Oh Booker guard? Yeah, it's hard to not like him.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Will Campbell is the one that kind of issue. Everybody
Speaker 2: has thrown his name up high and all these mock drafts,
Speaker 2: And I'll be honest with you, I did at LSU
Speaker 2: game this year. I didn't study the offensive line too hard.
Speaker 2: Armand Membo Membo Missouri guy. Yeah, super athletic right tackle
Speaker 2: at college. Is he going to be a tackle in
Speaker 2: the pros? Is he going to be a guard?
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I think it's going to be interesting to see where
Speaker 2: they view some of these eyes from positional aspect, because
Speaker 2: a lot of these guys that were college tackles. The
Speaker 2: draft knicks are kind of forecasting some of these guys
Speaker 2: as interior offensive alignement.
Speaker 1: Question.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they can draft them high, doesn't mean they're going
Speaker 2: to start, they can go compete and maybe, but they've
Speaker 2: got the left tackle Walker Little under contract, well, not
Speaker 2: necessarily left tackle, he's under contracts under alignment, a decent
Speaker 2: sized contract, a decent sized contract. But JP, the left
Speaker 2: guard's got a decent sized contract. I'm here to tell
Speaker 2: you that that contract doesn't say that you're going to
Speaker 2: be given a spot. That's not what I'm saying. But
Speaker 2: I'm just saying the finances of what we're dealing with here, right,
Speaker 2: which is a very fair contract. I mean with with
Speaker 2: Walker Little, I mean it's a it's a it's a
Speaker 2: good contract, But that contract doesn't say he's my starting
Speaker 2: left tackle. But you'd be comfortable with him as a
Speaker 2: swing guy in theory. Well i'd like to not to
Speaker 2: be paying on that much swiss whole argument. But I mean,
Speaker 2: let him compete somewhere, guard tackle wherever.
Speaker 1: I mean play.
Speaker 2: Competition is the best thing on the planet. More competition,
Speaker 2: better performance out of everybody. Let's come back in a moment.
Speaker 2: We can talk draft a little more later. We got
Speaker 2: to get to this the annual meetings, and we're gonna
Speaker 2: hear from the heaven.
Speaker 1: Let me say this just real quick.
Speaker 2: If if Abdul Carter or Travis Hunter fall to the
Speaker 2: Jaguars somehow at five run to the Mike Perkins had
Speaker 2: better have that card brought up to the podium like
Speaker 2: that in Green Bay, and he better have those cards
Speaker 2: filled out already in advance, because you know, Perk's that guy.
Speaker 1: He's the guy who in the car.
Speaker 2: Those two guys are on a whole different level than
Speaker 2: a lot of these other players. And there's some really
Speaker 2: good football players, don't get me wrong. Those two guys though,
Speaker 2: I'm talking Micah Parsons. And the biggest question about Travis
Speaker 2: Hunter is is he going to be an elite wide
Speaker 2: receiver an elite defensive back? Take his pick. He can
Speaker 2: be both.
Speaker 1: I'd be both. We're back at a moment. We'll take
Speaker 1: a look at the offseason program coming up next week
Speaker 1: on ten to XXL, Jaguars dot COmON Jaguars YouTube.
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Speaker 3: It's great to be intangibly curious, as our fan base
Speaker 3: might be labeled at this point, but intangibly rich. I
Speaker 3: think we can all get to a place that even
Speaker 3: in our own minds, it means somewhat of the same thing.
Speaker 3: When we're looking at on field intangibles. It's things like competitiveness, toughness,
Speaker 3: and even instincts and nuances of each skill that is
Speaker 3: offered up at each position. Off the field, you're looking about,
Speaker 3: you know, how much passion does somebody have for the
Speaker 3: game itself as well as what are they like as
Speaker 3: a team might and a person off the field, And
Speaker 3: so those are things that we gauge and really lean
Speaker 3: into as a part of our decision making process. It's
Speaker 3: really where we start at each point of player acquisition.
Speaker 3: But you know, we got to remain agile at the
Speaker 3: same time and be open to, you know, a number
Speaker 3: of options. But at the end of the day, yes,
Speaker 3: it's rooted in intangibles and that's something that we'll keep
Speaker 3: as our north star as we round out this first
Speaker 3: off season.
Speaker 2: That's James glad So of course Jaguars GM with John
Speaker 2: Osher at the NFL Annual Meeting earlier this week. The
Speaker 2: owners Meeting is a full conversation at Jaguars dot com.
Speaker 2: Jaguars Football is presented by a fresh from Florida. It's
Speaker 2: always in season, JP Shadwick with Jeff Logoman. We're at
Speaker 2: the Hyundai studios at the Miller Electric Center on tentinxl,
Speaker 2: Jaguars dot Com and Jaguars YouTube. Intangibly curious is what
Speaker 2: he called osher there, which is pretty pretty funny line
Speaker 2: from the GM. I really like, though, how he You know,
Speaker 2: everybody's been kind of wondering to summer extent, what what
Speaker 2: does intangibly rich mean you? And I think he did
Speaker 2: a pretty good job of spelling a little bit of
Speaker 2: it out. I kind of wonder too, because when when
Speaker 2: you get to encounter a lot of these prospects that
Speaker 2: you're considering drafting or even signing as undrafted free agents,
Speaker 2: there's a lot of information that you acquire on film
Speaker 2: and physicals and all that other stuff. I just wonder
Speaker 2: how much that they're investing in I don't want to
Speaker 2: say private eyes, but in really researching the background of
Speaker 2: these players, because you know, jp when when these guys
Speaker 2: go to a meeting at the combine, they're they're prepped,
Speaker 2: they're prepped, they're they're taught how to handle themselves, how
Speaker 2: to conduct themselves by their agents, and but you know,
Speaker 2: what you really want to find out is how these
Speaker 2: people are when they're not being interviewed and when they're
Speaker 2: walking around, how they are with their teammates, how they
Speaker 2: are with staff, how they are with their family. I mean,
Speaker 2: you want to know as much as you possibly can
Speaker 2: because you're getting ready to make millions of dollars of investments,
Speaker 2: millions into these players, and you want to make sure
Speaker 2: that you make the right decisions and the scouts are
Speaker 2: involved in that. The local area scout scouts should be
Speaker 2: able to have great lines of communication. And if you
Speaker 2: have scouts that have not fostered great relationships in their area,
Speaker 2: and find somebody that can be around, right, I mean,
Speaker 2: because that is part of the job of finding out
Speaker 2: the true the true use of these players, you know.
Speaker 2: So I would hope that there's a great emphasis put
Speaker 2: into that because we have not done a good job,
Speaker 2: a good enough job as an organization in the past
Speaker 2: of with some of that stuff. I mean, we had
Speaker 2: a draft picked a couple of years ago that we
Speaker 2: drafted in the US around a corner out of Florida
Speaker 2: that when he got drafted, you would assume that the
Speaker 2: kid didn't even want to play here.
Speaker 1: That reaction on the couch at his house.
Speaker 2: And that once he got here you would have assumed
Speaker 2: that he didn't want to play then either. Henderson and
Speaker 2: then he didn't want to play when he got traded either.
Speaker 2: He's been heard a little bit, make a couple of
Speaker 2: phone calls. You could have found that out.
Speaker 1: That was a rough one. That was a rough one.
Speaker 1: There's others. We can go back.
Speaker 2: We can go back in history if we want. We've
Speaker 2: got a few more. We got our surrounders. Thirty eight
Speaker 2: minutes left in the show. It might not be enough time.
Speaker 1: For all those.
Speaker 2: Yeah, vet them, vet them, vet them, vet them, spend
Speaker 2: the resources. Look, when you have a phone plan, JP,
Speaker 2: you're not getting charged by the minute anymore. No, really, Okay,
Speaker 2: may you got the unlimited plan?
Speaker 1: Amazing?
Speaker 2: Okay, make sure your scouts have the unlimited plan so
Speaker 2: they can make all the phone calls that they need
Speaker 2: to make. By the way, you remember when you had
Speaker 2: to like stop piled minutes and you had the family
Speaker 2: plan and you had to like combined minutes. I remember
Speaker 2: paying a dollar ninety a minute for selling your one,
Speaker 2: and then they had they charged you by the text message,
Speaker 2: whether you got it or or said it, you were
Speaker 2: getting charged Like I didn't get I didn't get it.
Speaker 1: Sent to me.
Speaker 2: I get five cents a text message.
Speaker 1: What do you guys?
Speaker 2: Just crazy crazy for a long time.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: But anyway, you got unlimited plans now, so that Scout
Speaker 2: utilize that service. Excited find out all you can.
Speaker 1: Did you ever have a rotary phone? Probably when you
Speaker 1: were a kid.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, yeah, yeah, when I was a kid. But yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean it was what you knew, man, that's just
Speaker 2: what it was.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Remember the first cordless phone we had in the house.
Speaker 2: It was like, oh wow, this thing has an antenna
Speaker 2: on it. You'll walk around it. I'll never forget my
Speaker 2: first cell your phone. It was by I had a
Speaker 2: plan from cell you or one, and I was with
Speaker 2: the Jets at the time, and and so I got
Speaker 2: this thing in just in case, you know, something happened.
Speaker 2: And it was in a bag like like literally like
Speaker 2: a like a kind of a shoebox size cloth bag,
Speaker 2: and it literally was you had to pay like I
Speaker 2: think it was like eighty bucks a month or something
Speaker 2: like that, and then you had to pay like a
Speaker 2: dollar ninety a minute. So it was like, hey, man,
Speaker 2: I'll be there in five minutes. Right, You're looking at
Speaker 2: your stop watch or something, you know, and making sure
Speaker 2: you were hanging up before you had you know, too
Speaker 2: many minutes on.
Speaker 1: There, but I mean, anyway, pretty wild.
Speaker 2: Yeah, use those minutes, you got them, They're unlimited vet
Speaker 2: these players. I'm glad that that Johnny Ozone sat down
Speaker 2: with James Gladstone.
Speaker 1: They stood up technically, but yes, I'm with you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like it. I like it. It's good. It's
Speaker 2: a good conversation. We had it the other day on
Speaker 2: jags Aam. We could check it out there or on
Speaker 2: Jaguars dot com or Jaguars YouTube as it stands by itself.
Speaker 2: And uh, I'm sure I would guess at some point
Speaker 2: next week maybe there could be some more availability with
Speaker 2: the off season program about to get underway. And then
Speaker 2: at some point, I'm sure there's gonna be a like
Speaker 2: a draft, probably a pre draft lunching, whatever you want
Speaker 2: to call it. You know, usually it's out so we
Speaker 2: can find out exactly who they're gonna take. They're gonna
Speaker 2: give us all the answers and then feed us a sandwich. Yeah,
Speaker 2: they're not gonna give much information, but i mean, look
Speaker 2: at you know, now's the time I think we're between
Speaker 2: because what how how many days away is the draft?
Speaker 2: For it's literally one day because it's three weeks away
Speaker 2: and between now and.
Speaker 1: In that night.
Speaker 2: This is this is what you call the rumor period, right,
Speaker 2: this is where a lot of misinformation gets spread. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so everything that you hear from now until then, take
Speaker 2: it with a grain of salt. You think it's BS,
Speaker 2: not necessarily BS, but it's yeah. I mean there's a
Speaker 2: there's a lot of maneuvering and all the different mock
Speaker 2: drafts that are coming out, and then people are going
Speaker 2: to plant little ideas and information and different media members. Look,
Speaker 2: there's personality.
Speaker 1: You might be doing it right now with Mason Graham
Speaker 1: might be oh he's not good.
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe you're trying to, like, you know, maybe be stealthy,
Speaker 2: loud the Jaguars to fall back a couple of spots
Speaker 2: and them because maybe you're playing, you're planting the seed.
Speaker 2: You're part of the system. I like the idea of
Speaker 2: getting more picks. I've always been a big fan of
Speaker 2: accumulating picks because the reality is is that the draft
Speaker 2: it is a numbers game. Your accuracy of making the
Speaker 2: right pick is not great. So the more picks you have,
Speaker 2: the better chance you have of making a right pick.
Speaker 1: But if just a guy up there you really want
Speaker 1: just get it.
Speaker 2: Who would you jp if you had your choice, you
Speaker 2: were picking number one.
Speaker 1: Overall, I'm going Travis Hunter. Travis Hunter. I think he's
Speaker 1: that dynamic.
Speaker 2: Where would you play him?
Speaker 1: I mean for this team.
Speaker 2: We've talked about this before and I haven't gotten your
Speaker 2: thoughts on it. So and I'm going both ways on it,
Speaker 2: because you could use cornerback play on this team right
Speaker 2: in a number of different ways, even though with the
Speaker 2: free agent you signed and some things you have. I mean,
Speaker 2: if you put that guy out on one side and
Speaker 2: call that a day, I think, or you put him
Speaker 2: at receiver full time and then bring him in in
Speaker 2: a certain.
Speaker 1: Packages on defense, I think you can do it both ways. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you could.
Speaker 2: But the problem is if he gets hurt, you lose
Speaker 2: two players. Correct, You're losing two positions, Yeah, which is
Speaker 2: not good. So that's the scary part of what this is.
Speaker 2: But when he's out there, ball skills, speed, dynamic, got
Speaker 2: his head on his shoulders. I mean, he's got everything
Speaker 2: you want, so I would and if it were me,
Speaker 2: and it's just this is me, it's hard to.
Speaker 1: Pass that up.
Speaker 2: And you're playing them on defense for the most part,
Speaker 2: maybe say we'll see you know, I don't know. It's great,
Speaker 2: it's a great enough. It's a great debate. You know,
Speaker 2: there's how much do you let him drive it and
Speaker 2: be like, I want to do everything. I don't know
Speaker 2: about that. An NFL game typically consists about sixty five
Speaker 2: plays for each team, right, offensively, right, So you can't
Speaker 2: expect him to play, you know, one hundred and twenty
Speaker 2: to one hundred and thirty snaps a game.
Speaker 1: So he did the Colorado more than that more plays.
Speaker 2: I don't think college football has that many snaps, do
Speaker 2: they They well, they used to that a whole lot more,
Speaker 2: and so they changed the clock rule a couple of
Speaker 2: years ago. The clock runs on and maybe that is
Speaker 2: the case. But I mean, I just can't imagine a
Speaker 2: player with standing one hundred and thirty snaps a game.
Speaker 2: I just can't see that. And on top of that,
Speaker 2: you're what what does that do to the longevity of
Speaker 2: the player if he's taking that number of snaps? All
Speaker 2: a great argument it's more physical in the NFL and
Speaker 2: theory in the NFL, right, yes, it is. The theory
Speaker 2: it is. It's a tough one. It's because you want
Speaker 2: your best guy out there. Yeah, he's he's a.
Speaker 1: He's a great player.
Speaker 2: And it's amazing to me that you literally that there
Speaker 2: is a debate about a player. I mean, because look
Speaker 2: all the great two way players that have been in
Speaker 2: the bo Jackson, you know, played offense. Uh well, but
Speaker 2: I mean dual sport guy, right, Dion sand you know,
Speaker 2: and which one was he gonna do? Right, Okay, Dion Sanders, Okay, returner,
Speaker 2: defensive back. Little packages that he had on offense, Okay,
Speaker 2: they were great. But there I don't think there's ever
Speaker 2: been You probably got to go way back, way way
Speaker 2: back to find somebody that had a legitimate it was
Speaker 2: a legitimate two way football player offense and defense. I mean,
Speaker 2: just nobody's ever really done that in modern day era.
Speaker 1: It's tough.
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean you're gonna go back to like
Speaker 2: Chuck Bignerik probably right, right. I mean, Charles Woodson was
Speaker 2: special teams, but he was a defense you know, But
Speaker 2: there was nobody that was true there. Well, there hasn't
Speaker 2: been anybody in the modern era of football the Super
Speaker 2: Bowl receiver. Yeah, but it was limited and it was later,
Speaker 2: it was very limited. But there's nobody been in the
Speaker 2: I don't think in the Super Bowl era through been
Speaker 2: been both ways, starting on defense, starting on offense. They've
Speaker 2: kept expanding the rosters and the whole thing. Yeah, interesting, interesting,
Speaker 2: Let's come back. I prom but I like your I
Speaker 2: like your pick. I mean, he's he is special, and
Speaker 2: he loves ball, loves ball, and he's got some of
Speaker 2: the best ball skills on the defensive side or the
Speaker 2: offensive side, some of the best ball skills I've ever
Speaker 2: seen of anybody. Wide receiver, defensive back, doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: And stakes can break on it the whole season game.
Speaker 1: Let's come back.
Speaker 2: I promise we're gonna hear from Liam Cohen. Okay, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna make it a point to run these Liam Cohen
Speaker 2: clips when we come back, because that's what you want
Speaker 2: to hear. You want to hear about the off season
Speaker 2: program next week, I.
Speaker 1: Want to hear.
Speaker 2: I want to hear this football team is gonna win,
Speaker 2: all right. We want to hear how this team is
Speaker 2: going to organize and execute. Well, maybe what an answer
Speaker 2: We'll come Okay, you'll hear that coming up the new
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Speaker 4: You know, that's the first thing when we're really trying
Speaker 4: to place to just feel guys like, this is good stuff.
Speaker 1: It's great to be back.
Speaker 4: We're doing football.
Speaker 2: Guys.
Speaker 4: How many of us get to do this. We get
Speaker 4: an opportunity to do this every single day. There's so
Speaker 4: many that don't. And so how are we going to
Speaker 4: approach this thing? I think they'll walk into that kind
Speaker 4: of feeling and you know.
Speaker 1: We'll meet.
Speaker 4: We'll just do meetings obviously throughout phase one introducing our
Speaker 4: systems while we at the same time start to introduce
Speaker 4: our culture, the way that we're going to be, the
Speaker 4: way the we're going to talk to each other, the
Speaker 4: way that we're going to communicate with each other, how
Speaker 4: we're gonna treat one another. That'll go hand in hand
Speaker 4: with the systems.
Speaker 2: Is Liam Cohen at the ANC Coaches Breakfast at the
Speaker 2: NFL Annual Meeting earlier this week down in Palm Beach
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Speaker 1: The question to Liam Cohen there JP.
Speaker 2: Shadwick, Jeff Logwan on Jaguars Happy Hour, by the way,
Speaker 2: was a what do players expect next week when they
Speaker 2: come back in the building for the first time, maybe
Speaker 2: the first time for the off season program. It's the
Speaker 2: first opportunity for Cohen and the coaching staff and the
Speaker 2: strength and conditioning staff who will have them on the
Speaker 2: field to really get in front of these guys.
Speaker 1: So that's the answer.
Speaker 2: How how important is this first impression for Liam Cohen
Speaker 2: and the staff. Well, I think it's important. But then
Speaker 2: you know the other thing too that you just brought
Speaker 2: up about the strength and conditioning staff, which, oh, by
Speaker 2: the way, that's new. They're new too, That is new.
Speaker 2: So there's a lot of new when the players walk
Speaker 2: into the building and uh, which can be a great thing.
Speaker 2: And part of that newness is also going to be
Speaker 2: that everybody is starting from ground zero. Everybody has an opportunity,
Speaker 2: you know, making a strong first impression and building relationships
Speaker 2: as everybody's moving forward, and it's it's incredibly important that
Speaker 2: the culture begins to be established that very first moment,
Speaker 2: and anything less than the acceptable culture ways are not okay.
Speaker 2: And so I think it's going to be a very
Speaker 2: important day. But it's something that has to be built
Speaker 2: every day. It's not something that Okay, hey guys, here's
Speaker 2: how we're gonna be. All right, let's all march and
Speaker 2: we're good.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: It's a daily process that has to continue to be reinforced.
Speaker 1: And that's for years.
Speaker 2: That's not just one year, and a work ethic and
Speaker 2: a level of expectation of look, this is where we
Speaker 2: are gonna be, okay, anything less is unacceptable. I mean,
Speaker 2: those are the things that need to be established from
Speaker 2: the very early on days and the moments that you have.
Speaker 2: But again, it has to be consistently and reoccurring positively
Speaker 2: enforced all the time. It's not a sum of the
Speaker 2: time thing. It's an all the time thing. By the way,
Speaker 2: the off season program yes begins officially April eighth. The
Speaker 2: league announced all the off season dates officially for every
Speaker 2: team Earlier today. So the first day for the jag
Speaker 2: is April eighth. They it can begin April seventh, but
Speaker 2: the Jaguars will be in April eighth. Voluntary mini camp,
Speaker 2: which I know you love those in the off season
Speaker 2: logs your your history of voluntary camps April twenty first
Speaker 2: through twenty.
Speaker 1: Three, don't.
Speaker 2: I don't mind them.
Speaker 1: I know, well, I'm going back to your history as
Speaker 1: a player.
Speaker 2: Well, that wasn't That was not a voluntary mini.
Speaker 1: Camp that I was not at that voluntary.
Speaker 2: That was no, it was a voluntary early report date
Speaker 2: to training camp.
Speaker 1: That's what we had.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm talking about, after we had twenty voluntary
Speaker 2: days already in the off season. It was voluntary though.
Speaker 1: Anyway. NFL Draft April twenty fourth through twenty six.
Speaker 2: Phase two April twenty eighth for the Jaguars, OTAs in May,
Speaker 2: a number of days there, that's Phase number three, and
Speaker 2: then mandatory mini camp in June June ten, eleven, and twelve.
Speaker 2: It'll be interesting to see kind of what you know
Speaker 2: you've seen in the past to where you have all
Speaker 2: of these voluntary days in the off season and then
Speaker 2: all of a sudden you get to the mini camp
Speaker 2: and you're like hey, and all of a sudden they
Speaker 2: don't have it. Well, that's what happened with Doug Peterson,
Speaker 2: right if he had good attendance throughout the off season,
Speaker 2: then he would just go ahead and bang the mandatory one,
Speaker 2: or let the only the rookies have to come, or
Speaker 2: whatever veterance come. I was never a fan of canceling
Speaker 2: the mini camp because I understand what Doug's kind of
Speaker 2: goal was, is that to allow the players to have
Speaker 2: a mental and physical break so that they're fresh when
Speaker 2: they come back. But there's ways to keep the players
Speaker 2: in a fresh way throughout the whole off season. There's
Speaker 2: times that you can give them breaks or time off,
Speaker 2: But if you're giving them the time off at the
Speaker 2: mandatory mini camp, that's the most allowable or the fewest
Speaker 2: restricts on what you can and can't do in all
Speaker 2: of the off season. Yes, so if you're gonna if
Speaker 2: you're gonna bypass something or to not do something, don't
Speaker 2: make it the one that has the most value of
Speaker 2: all of the off season activity. And I'm gonna say
Speaker 2: something here, I might get in hot water with you
Speaker 2: on this. It's three days for goodness, sake, right, It's
Speaker 2: three days.
Speaker 1: How could that be such an issue. It's three days,
Speaker 1: go work for three days.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I'm all for it, thank you. Okay, now
Speaker 2: I'm all for it. I didn't know if other side.
Speaker 2: My point is that if you want to give the
Speaker 2: players some time off, don't make it the mini camp.
Speaker 1: They got five weeks off coming up.
Speaker 2: Right after the day after exactly five weeks, totally understand.
Speaker 1: Do the three days.
Speaker 2: And for some teams, like the teams that were in
Speaker 2: the playoffs and had the season extended, and you know,
Speaker 2: they're not a time off they had has been shorter,
Speaker 2: Well that's not the case here. Okay, So the players
Speaker 2: should be kind of fresh.
Speaker 1: And ready to go.
Speaker 2: But if you need to give them a little bit
Speaker 2: of a break, don't take it out of that mini camp.
Speaker 1: Take it.
Speaker 2: Take it out of like one of the other phase
Speaker 2: days that have more restrictions about what you can and
Speaker 2: can't do. You want to be able to do as
Speaker 2: much as you possibly can, which is at that stage
Speaker 2: of the off season, which is where the many mandatory
Speaker 2: mini camp falls. Phrases you're not allowed to have like
Speaker 2: one on ones, you're not allowed to have, you're allowed
Speaker 2: to have all of that in the mini camp, So
Speaker 2: don't take don't take that away faste, you know, ot
Speaker 2: A three four, Okay, yeah, take a day or whatever. Correct,
Speaker 2: But hey, they could take them anyway. They're voluntary up
Speaker 2: until the mandatory mini camp.
Speaker 1: Correct. I'm just telling you in theory they can.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know, so you need to day take
Speaker 2: the day and take the whole thing. Don't come all
Speaker 2: and look if there's guys that have a way of
Speaker 2: preparing and it suits them best. On me, Josh Allen
Speaker 2: a couple of years ago wasn't here at all in
Speaker 2: the off season stuff right, and then came back for
Speaker 2: the mandatory mini camp had his best year as a
Speaker 2: pro by far? Is that necessarily the best course of
Speaker 2: action though with a new staff, No, you need you
Speaker 2: need to be here. That's the other side of the argument,
Speaker 2: just saying play a handful of guys playing defense is
Speaker 2: not rocket science. I mean, so it's not like you
Speaker 2: need to be here for all of it. But I
Speaker 2: would like to see Josh here for as much as possible.
Speaker 2: But if he's not here for certain parts of it, okay,
Speaker 2: that's fine. If it works for him, it works for him.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna guess.
Speaker 2: So there's probably only a handful of players that could well,
Speaker 2: they can all get away with it because of the CBA. Correct,
Speaker 2: But there's probably a certain level of player on this team,
Speaker 2: and probably not as deep as you think that could
Speaker 2: truly be.
Speaker 1: Okay, I don't know.
Speaker 2: Well, when I'm not speaking as a team and that's
Speaker 2: that's voluntary, I get it. The one thing that that
Speaker 2: is definitely the case, there's a few untouchables, that's all
Speaker 2: I'm saying. Yeah, I mean, there are guys that are
Speaker 2: untouchable from a contract standpoint, and that's a fact. But
Speaker 2: the one thing that is definitely true in this case
Speaker 2: is that when you have a whole new regime, Okay,
Speaker 2: what you've done in the past or any you know,
Speaker 2: if JP, let's say you were a draft pick a
Speaker 2: couple of years ago, a high one, right, I was
Speaker 2: a high draft. Hey, look, it really doesn't matter anymore.
Speaker 2: You know, you've got a new regime. There's uh, you know,
Speaker 2: the general manager that may have drafted you is gone.
Speaker 2: So the new general manager is not going to look
Speaker 2: good or bad if he keeps you or he doesn't
Speaker 2: keep you. You know, there's veteran guys it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2: It doesn't it's not going to make the new general
Speaker 2: manage look good or bad if he keeps you or
Speaker 2: he doesn't keep you where they decide that you're not
Speaker 2: a part of the program, or you are a part
Speaker 2: of the program. You know. So everybody is kind of
Speaker 2: starting at ground zero from that standpoint. But then again,
Speaker 2: there are contracts that make certain guys untouchable part of
Speaker 2: the business professional football. But everybody has a clean slate.
Speaker 2: Nobody has any built up equity, so to speak, even
Speaker 2: though some guys do just from an experience and play standpoint,
Speaker 2: but a lot of guys don't have any of that equity.
Speaker 1: Built up at all. So we'll see. I bet attendants
Speaker 1: will be pretty high in this offseason program, as.
Speaker 2: It should be. I mean, look, this is a great
Speaker 2: place to live. And here's the other thing that I've
Speaker 2: made this point for a number of years. If you
Speaker 2: are out and training on your own and you get hurt,
Speaker 2: you're on your own non football NFI list baby, Okay,
Speaker 2: and you know what that means. You don't get paid. Okay.
Speaker 2: If you get hurt while you're working under the umbrella
Speaker 2: of the team, Okay, then that's in the line of
Speaker 2: duty injury. Where would you rather work out somewhere where
Speaker 2: there is no way of you getting paid if you
Speaker 2: got hurt, or if you work out here, then you're
Speaker 2: gonna get paid because you were in the facility working out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it seems like an easy answer.
Speaker 2: And I can tell you this just I mean from
Speaker 2: my experience, working out with your teammates is great because
Speaker 2: it's competitive. You can help raise the level of everything
Speaker 2: you do in the off season. When you're working out
Speaker 2: with your teammates, you build relationships and with a lot
Speaker 2: of new faces that are going to be coming in,
Speaker 2: this is a chance for them to get to know everybody.
Speaker 2: I mean, speaking of working out away from the building,
Speaker 2: you don't want to do one day? What what are
Speaker 2: those darkness retreats? Aaron Rodgers did? That sounds fun? That
Speaker 2: guy that sounds like an interesting Rogers playing for the
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh Steelers just as work for me.
Speaker 1: We'll see. They haven't announced anything.
Speaker 2: Yet, I know, but it's going that way right, trending
Speaker 2: that direction. Can you picture Aaron Rodgers in these in
Speaker 2: his darkness retreats fitting in with the Pittsburgh Steelers. It's
Speaker 2: a it's a different place.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Man, let's come back in a moment.
Speaker 1: We will tease The Hunt. It is back tonight, can't wait.
Speaker 2: I love that show. I think it's every NFL team
Speaker 2: should do something like this, and some of them try. Yeah,
Speaker 2: not to this extent, not as not like the Jaguars.
Speaker 2: The Hunt is outstanding must watch football viewing entertainment. We're
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Speaker 2: and Jaguars YouTube.
Speaker 1: It's Jaguars Happy Hour. That one's pleasure.
Speaker 2: Sure, Season six, episode one. All right, let's go there.
Speaker 1: You have it.
Speaker 2: The Hunt back tonight, seven o'clock on Jaguars YouTube, featuring
Speaker 2: unprecedented access into the leadership changes for the Jacksonville Jaguars.
Speaker 2: I'm told it's thirty six minutes long.
Speaker 1: One nice, very good.
Speaker 2: That's almost like hopcorn in a cold wooden territory. That's
Speaker 2: enough time to do both. Oh yeah, I'll be uh.
Speaker 2: I'll have a cold drink and watch it tonight. I
Speaker 2: don't know about popcorn. No, not a popcorn.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 2: I like pop but I like popcorn movies.
Speaker 1: I like them. This is damn. I mean, they might
Speaker 1: as well get to sun Dance with this thing. That's
Speaker 1: how long this thing is. And they've done a great
Speaker 1: job with it. They really have.
Speaker 2: I mean the whole crew, all the way top to bottom,
Speaker 2: from kavanav of course to the canvas. Everet Sullivan kind
Speaker 2: of leads the charge on this side of things, and
Speaker 2: I mean we can go through the list here, but
Speaker 2: Trent Padilla and Gabby Dalton have been working their tails
Speaker 2: off over there. Andrew Curry ho the access given by
Speaker 2: the football side. I mean, you'll see it tonight. I've
Speaker 2: seen bits and pieces logs. The whole thing's going to
Speaker 2: be fantas Yeah, looking forward to that. I will me
Speaker 2: and the wife, Terra, we will definitely be watching that tonight.
Speaker 1: Is that her name. I'm kidding, Yes, you know very well.
Speaker 2: I know very well. Of course, we will definitely watch
Speaker 2: that tonight. And you know, we always try to find
Speaker 2: something to watch. But I can tell you this that
Speaker 2: is on my list, like top five is when that
Speaker 2: stuff comes out, you know, and I know all the people.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's i mean it's almost like we work here.
Speaker 2: It's amazing, well imagine that, but it's still got I
Speaker 2: mean the access that you get in the entertainment that
Speaker 2: you get from it I think is outstanding and I
Speaker 2: would recommend anybody that has not watched The Hunt that
Speaker 2: do not miss this year's The Hunt series because it
Speaker 2: is must watch TV if you're a football fan, if
Speaker 2: you're looking to be entertained. This is great stuff.
Speaker 1: Looking forward to seven o'clock Eastern tonight. Jaguars YouTube. They'll
Speaker 1: stream it live there.
Speaker 2: It will be on the Jaguars website at some point
Speaker 2: very soon as well, so check that out. Jaguars Happy
Speaker 2: Hour presented by Dream Pinders Homes, official homebuilder of the
Speaker 2: Jacksonville Jaguars off season program. Next week, veterans will be
Speaker 2: in first impressions for the head coach and the strength
Speaker 2: and conditioning staff. And then we're closing it on the
Speaker 2: NFL Draft three weeks away and the draft party this
Speaker 2: year at Lemon Bar. Logs at the Lemon Bar.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right, that's where we'll be.
Speaker 2: No, we're going to be here, Oh, but the party
Speaker 2: will be out. I don't want to be where the party.
Speaker 2: I mean, maybe you could go out there and report back.
Speaker 2: Can I be like a remote? I'm sure that would
Speaker 2: go very well for you. Yeah, that'd be great. I'm
Speaker 2: looking forward to the draft. I've been watching film for
Speaker 2: the last couple of weeks, and I think it's going
Speaker 2: to be a very interesting draft. And when I when
Speaker 2: I said this earlier, there was kind of a reason
Speaker 2: why I said that I would love to see the
Speaker 2: Jaguars trade down just because they can accumulate some more picks.
Speaker 2: But then also there's a lot of players that are
Speaker 2: really close together. How do you get that after you
Speaker 2: get past that elite group right at the top, and
Speaker 2: more picks means better chance of hitting. And you've got
Speaker 2: a great, great group of guys that are going to
Speaker 2: be available in that eight to fifteen, sixteen seventeen. The
Speaker 2: grades are they're going to be so close together that
Speaker 2: you can get great value there. But you just you know,
Speaker 2: again said this before, but you got to be willing
Speaker 2: to find somebody that's wanting to trade up.
Speaker 1: To do that. It takes two to tango.
Speaker 2: There's more people that are willing to trade back than
Speaker 2: are willing to trade up. I think that's yeah. You
Speaker 2: always talk about we always hear about, oh, trade, this
Speaker 2: could be a trade machine. Here we go, trade, trade, trade,
Speaker 2: and then draft night rarely does something happen.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean, look, sometimes I think in the last couple
Speaker 2: of years the frequency of trades though have gone up.
Speaker 2: So it was the last year and we've never been
Speaker 2: around the mindset of James Gladstone and Liam Comb, so
Speaker 2: we don't know kind of what their mo is. I mean,
Speaker 2: they've got an opportunity to create their own m O.
Speaker 1: Correct, we'll see.
Speaker 2: I mean, we know we can follow the track record
Speaker 2: in l A a little bit of what they did there,
Speaker 2: but I mean he was more in the scouting side
Speaker 2: of the draft than well. And I think the other
Speaker 2: thing too, that is incredibly important. Every team has a
Speaker 2: great opportunity after the draft to still continue to add
Speaker 2: talent to the I was trying to think of the environment.
Speaker 2: Is that what the ecosystem? I know you've been a
Speaker 2: while for two weeks, but you forget ecosystem.
Speaker 1: Come on, man.
Speaker 2: And I'm really looking forward to that because that was
Speaker 2: something that James Gladstone handled personally for the Rams and
Speaker 2: they've done a great job in that category with the
Speaker 2: undrafteds and so I know a lot of people are
Speaker 2: fired up about what the Jaguars will be able to
Speaker 2: do in the draft, and there's no doubt that that's
Speaker 2: the highest level of talent that you can add to
Speaker 2: your roster, but it doesn't end there. I'm looking forward
Speaker 2: to seeing what they are are also going to do
Speaker 2: after the draft and the undrafted hard Final Four this weekend.
Speaker 2: Do you care who's in the Final four? All the
Speaker 2: number one seats? I heard that Florida is in. They
Speaker 2: are one of the number one seats. Who else is in?
Speaker 1: Duke Duke? Who are the others?
Speaker 2: Cameron crazies? Right?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Are they still considered the Cameron crazy?
Speaker 1: They are? Yes?
Speaker 2: Oh, Auburn, Auburn Duke, Florida, Houston and who Houston? Houston?
Speaker 2: All right? Who you're rooting for?
Speaker 1: I don't care.
Speaker 2: You don't care. Who do you think is gonna win?
Speaker 1: Duke Duke? Are they that good? They're I think they're
Speaker 1: pretty good. I mean from the two games I watched
Speaker 1: them in the tournament. I don't know. I don't know
Speaker 1: anything else.
Speaker 2: Virginia is not in the Final four. They're not going
Speaker 2: to be there for a while. I don't think it
Speaker 2: might be a minute. Alabama blewet. I'll watch the Final four.
Speaker 2: I haven't watched the basketball game yet, but I'll watch.
Speaker 2: I'll watch the final wins the first game Saturday. No, Yeah,
Speaker 2: Saturday Saturday. What time they're both at on Saturday? One's
Speaker 2: at six o'clock Saturday, Saturday Saturday, and they're back to back.
Speaker 2: Got a concert I'm going to Oh what have we got?
Speaker 1: Is it a competing billy strings? Whoa sweet? Yeah? You
Speaker 1: got an extra one extra ticket for.
Speaker 2: He will come to be a third wheel for that concert.
Speaker 2: Maybe so at the end. Uh huh yeah, yeah, great show.
Speaker 2: I've heard he's fantastic.
Speaker 1: I've seen him.
Speaker 2: I've heard nothing but good things.
Speaker 1: Great to see you again, Great to be so too.
Speaker 2: And uh, next week, you can educate me on basketball
Speaker 2: a little bit. Well, not me, because you're asking a
Speaker 2: wrong guy.
Speaker 1: I need some help. I didn't watch any all year.
Speaker 1: I need some help.
Speaker 2: I don't know anything about basketball. I guess next week
Speaker 2: we'll probably talk about the NFL Draft again, well, of course,
Speaker 2: because it's the most important thing for this franchise. And
Speaker 2: I'll give you a breakdown of some of the off
Speaker 2: defensive lineman I think this team needs it.
Speaker 1: Oh, I like that that's coming up next week. Thanks
Speaker 1: for listening.
Speaker 2: Thanks to our entire crew, David, Joe, Brent Reaber, Joe
Speaker 2: Fortunado for Jeff Logiman, I'm JP Shadrick, and this is
Speaker 2: Jaguar's happy hour.