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<v Speaker 1>It is Thursday, April third. This is Jackuars Happy Hour.

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<v Speaker 2>is Jaguars Happy Hour. We've got a busy hour ahead.

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<v Speaker 2>We always say that, but still's stuff going on. This

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<v Speaker 2>week we will review the NFL Annual Meeting and milk

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<v Speaker 2>it for all it's worth. We've been doing it all

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<v Speaker 2>week long. The offseason program is on deck. Starting next week,

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<v Speaker 2>Veterans can come into the building for strength and conditioning

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<v Speaker 2>and we are three weeks from today to the NFL

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<v Speaker 2>On Tintin x l a M, Jaguars dot Com, Jaguars YouTube.

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<v Speaker 2>JP Shadwick reunited with our good friend Jeff Logo. It

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<v Speaker 2>good after dude, afternoon, JP. How you been I'm great? Yeah, great,

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<v Speaker 2>welcome back. Yeah, it feels good to be back. I've

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<v Speaker 2>been gone for so long. I didn't I didn't recognize

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<v Speaker 2>you when you walked I know, right, I'm all clean shaven.

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<v Speaker 2>Now you've got a haircut, you know, fresh as daisy. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I else see you need to know.

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<v Speaker 1>That's that's it.

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<v Speaker 2>That's all we need. I had had a nice week off, though,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess it was kind of all right, Hey, you're

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<v Speaker 2>on health and Wellness day. Mental, Yeah, okay, physical, mental,

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<v Speaker 2>all the above. I need a lot of those mental

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<v Speaker 2>health days, rack them up, uh plenty to get to

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<v Speaker 2>of course, we'll hear from James Gladstone GM of the Jaguars.

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<v Speaker 2>Caught up with John believe you haven't even mentioned the

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<v Speaker 2>draft yet.

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<v Speaker 1>I just I.

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<v Speaker 2>Literally just said three weeks to the NFL, right, I know,

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<v Speaker 2>but that's attention to the open. But you just threw it,

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<v Speaker 2>like rushed it aside, like it's not even a main story,

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<v Speaker 2>like the league meetings down in what was it, Palm

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<v Speaker 2>Beach was a bigger story than the draft that's coming

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<v Speaker 2>up in Green Bay because it.

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<v Speaker 1>Just happened, and there's quotes out of it, and.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, but it was it's a lot of fluff. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>And we went through the some of the rules change

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<v Speaker 2>potential rule changes a couple of weeks ago, and uh,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was kind of chuckling when when some of

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<v Speaker 2>the announcements were made of some of these changes that happened.

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<v Speaker 2>But I mean, at the end of the day, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>right now, the lifeblood of every franchise is the draft.

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<v Speaker 2>The draft talk should be paramount every single day, Like

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<v Speaker 2>number won't care if there's a league owners meeting tomorrow. Again,

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<v Speaker 2>what about Okay, well what about next week? Off season program?

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<v Speaker 2>First year head coach, new staff, establishing the culture. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>it's raizing the floor of the team, the whole deal.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, the ecosystem a win. Are they going to

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<v Speaker 2>win games next week?

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<v Speaker 1>Who knows?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I mean, if it does go well, that's

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<v Speaker 2>not a first impressions. Look report, it's gonna make headlines

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<v Speaker 2>because it's a big deal.

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<v Speaker 1>I get it.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, the first time the players get to be

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<v Speaker 2>with the coaches, it's awesome, it's great. But the reality is,

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<v Speaker 2>you want to get this team better, get better players,

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<v Speaker 2>and what's going to happen in a couple of weeks

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<v Speaker 2>in Green Bay That's what matters most. James Gladstone and

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<v Speaker 2>his guys and the coaching staff, they need to be

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<v Speaker 2>on point that moment happens at Green Bay and they're

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<v Speaker 2>on the phone and they're on the clock. That's where

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<v Speaker 2>this team gets better right then and there. That's where

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<v Speaker 2>they've got to be on time. And I'm looking forward

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<v Speaker 2>to it. I mean I've been like, how for I mean, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you must sounds like you are. Well, I'm looking forward

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<v Speaker 2>to it because look, this organization has what's the right word.

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<v Speaker 1>I can think of a lot of words, but.

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<v Speaker 2>It has fallen short in April many times, many times,

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<v Speaker 2>and there's been many a April's where after the draft happened,

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<v Speaker 2>you're like, yeah, that was a good draft, and then

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<v Speaker 2>I'll say that though, well, I mean everybody does. You're right,

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<v Speaker 2>everybody does. But it matters when year one and year

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<v Speaker 2>two and year three are completed, and then you go, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>how did we do? I mean, I'll never forget you

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<v Speaker 2>go back, you know, to many Jaguar drafts and you

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<v Speaker 2>felt good about it. But at the conclusion of year three,

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<v Speaker 2>which is kind of your gauge of whether or not

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<v Speaker 2>a draft was successful or not, at the end of

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<v Speaker 2>year three you were like, one.

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<v Speaker 1>Very good, We're drafted again to take the place of

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<v Speaker 1>this guy we drafted.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, no, then they go into free agency in the

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<v Speaker 2>next couple of years and spend a bunch of money

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<v Speaker 2>because they weren't drafting very well, well, here's your chance.

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<v Speaker 2>This is your chance to right the ship and to

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<v Speaker 2>get it right as an organanization, and this April draft

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<v Speaker 2>is where it has to start. James Gladstone's got to

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<v Speaker 2>be on point. It reminds me a lot of like

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<v Speaker 2>college football recruiting. Never in the history of college football

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<v Speaker 2>has there been a bad recruiting class. Just ask the

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<v Speaker 2>school who did it. Of course, I mean they're all geniuses.

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<v Speaker 2>But I mean it's look, it's uh, it's all part

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<v Speaker 2>of the campaign. I mean, it's it's all part of

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<v Speaker 2>the positivity. And look, that's the great thing about the

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<v Speaker 2>off seasons. I mean, if everybody's undefeated and hope spring's eternal.

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<v Speaker 2>But I mean you've got to have the Jimmy's and

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<v Speaker 2>the Johosh Okay, well let's you know for the simple Well,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll push Lei'll talk about any draft stuff at all.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we're gonna talk about it right now.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to push Leam Cohen's comments that you don't

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<v Speaker 2>care about apparently from this watched the whole interview. Well good,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, but some people listening might not have heard

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<v Speaker 2>some of this, so we're going to have some of

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<v Speaker 2>this a little bit later. By the way, season program,

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<v Speaker 2>I will say this, I do enjoy listening to both

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<v Speaker 2>Liam Cohen and and Gladstone. I think, you know, because

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<v Speaker 2>there's been a lot made about how good of a

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<v Speaker 2>communicator James Gladstone is, but Liam Cohen is an excellent

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<v Speaker 2>communicator as well. I enjoy listening to what he has

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<v Speaker 2>to say. And uh, and by the way, when's the

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<v Speaker 2>first episode of The Hunt coming out today? I've been

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<v Speaker 2>I've gotten all these teasers today today tonight, seven o'clock awesome. Yeah, wait,

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<v Speaker 2>don't have a teaser coming up on this show. It'll

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<v Speaker 2>be because I've been seeing all these teasers on Jaguars

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<v Speaker 2>dot com and I like when I'm hearing so far

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm just sitting there going, I can't When is

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<v Speaker 2>the first episode coming out?

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<v Speaker 1>Seven o'clock Jaguars YouTube tonight. Can't wait.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll be watching it tonight and unprecedented access outstanding. It

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<v Speaker 2>should be great. We'll have a teaser of that coming up.

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<v Speaker 2>The Jaguars have the number five pick in the NFL draft.

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<v Speaker 2>For now, forget you got some inte. No, I have

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<v Speaker 2>no insight whatsoever. But I'm a big believer. I know

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<v Speaker 2>that James Gladstone said that he's a big believer in

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<v Speaker 2>acquiring more draft capital and always having as much draft

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<v Speaker 2>capital as you possibly can. They've got now, just to

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<v Speaker 2>preface this, they do have the most draft picks this

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<v Speaker 2>year and next year.

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<v Speaker 1>Of any team in the league.

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<v Speaker 2>Great, great, let's get more, get some more, just more,

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<v Speaker 2>get some more. If there's a way that you can

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<v Speaker 2>trade back from five, I would love to see this

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<v Speaker 2>team trade back from five.

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<v Speaker 1>How far down are you going?

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<v Speaker 2>I'll go down in the teams. I'm okay with that.

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<v Speaker 1>You still need a player that can co produce now,

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<v Speaker 1>and if you're.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you can get that, you can get that. You

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<v Speaker 2>can absolutely get that if you go down into the teams.

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<v Speaker 2>But I mean, here, here's here's why I really think

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<v Speaker 2>that this draft. It has a couple of quarterbacks and

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<v Speaker 2>a couple I mean elite players at the top, and

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<v Speaker 2>then those quarterbacks elite players. No, we're not, They're just quarterbacks,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, you know. Caleb Williams was an elite quarterback prospect.

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<v Speaker 2>Trevor Lawrence was an elite quarterback prospect. Cam Ward and

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<v Speaker 2>should Hear Sanders are not in that category the quarterbacks

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<v Speaker 2>that a lot of teams need quarterbacks. Now, cam Ward

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<v Speaker 2>makes some froze that are special, I mean special, but

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<v Speaker 2>the total body of work is not anywhere near Caleb

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<v Speaker 2>Williams or Trevor Lawrence in my opinion, he does some

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<v Speaker 2>things that you go what are you thinking? What are

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<v Speaker 2>you doing? And should her Sanders have some of the

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<v Speaker 2>same moments, and I think at times ball placement an

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<v Speaker 2>issue with him. Trying to extend to play too often

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<v Speaker 2>is an issue with him. But Abdull Carter from Penn

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<v Speaker 2>State and Travis Hunter from Colorado, I mean, you're you're

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<v Speaker 2>talking cream of the crop. So you take those two

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<v Speaker 2>guys and then the two quarterbacks, and then after that,

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<v Speaker 2>I think there's a lot of guys that are very

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<v Speaker 2>closely rated. And the Jaguars picked fifth. So in theory,

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<v Speaker 2>if those four are gone, do you try to trade back.

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<v Speaker 2>I would like to see them to try to trade back.

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<v Speaker 2>Is there somebody after that though, that a team would

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<v Speaker 2>be willing to trade up for. That's the big question,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, And I mean maybe they trade for one

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<v Speaker 2>of those top four guys. Now, if a quarterback slides

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<v Speaker 2>back somehow, some way. Could that end up being a

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<v Speaker 2>possibility of the Jaguars maybe orchestrat in the trade. Maybe

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<v Speaker 2>the quarterback is always something that allows people to be

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<v Speaker 2>a willing trade possibility. The offensive line prospects, there's some

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<v Speaker 2>really good ones.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you've got.

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<v Speaker 2>If you were back into the teams, or even move

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<v Speaker 2>back a couple of spots, you've got an opportunity to

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<v Speaker 2>pick up a really good offensive line, really good defensive lineman.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the big guys in this draft. It's a

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<v Speaker 2>good draft. Wide receivers. I don't think you'd be in

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<v Speaker 2>a market for the wide receiver in the first round anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>Mason Graham like him, like him solid, A lot.

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<v Speaker 1>Of people like him. He's mocked everywhere.

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<v Speaker 2>Great hands, I mean, and that's the guy that you've

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<v Speaker 2>seen mocked with the Jaguars another place. And I like him.

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<v Speaker 2>The only thing I think he's got some limitations his length.

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<v Speaker 2>He's done have great length. Not a great pass rusher,

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<v Speaker 2>great football player though, can great hands, great uh taking

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<v Speaker 2>on the blocks, does all that stuff really well. But

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<v Speaker 2>he's in he is He in the category of Abdul Carter,

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<v Speaker 2>Travis Hunter, Oh no, if he if he was if

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<v Speaker 2>he picked in the top four, I don't think he is,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, but I like him, don't.

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<v Speaker 1>Get me wrong. But if you trade back and pick him.

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<v Speaker 2>Up, yeah, well if you like him, I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>you'd get him by trading back. I think it's an interest.

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<v Speaker 2>It's an interesting question, and I would love to know

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<v Speaker 2>what they're thinking is about a Mason Graham or a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of teams, what their thought process is with a

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<v Speaker 2>Mason Graham very high floor. But I think the question

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<v Speaker 2>with him is is how high is the ceiling? I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>because when you're in that top five, you're looking for

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<v Speaker 2>intangibly rich, great football players right right to use James's term,

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<v Speaker 2>he's a great football player and tangible's off the chart.

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<v Speaker 2>Is he a game changer? I think that's a question

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<v Speaker 2>that when you're drafting in the top five, you're looking

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<v Speaker 2>for somebody that's a game changer. And I'm not saying

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<v Speaker 2>he is, and I'm not saying he's not. But is

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<v Speaker 2>he in that Travis Hunter, Abdul Carter category a game changer?

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<v Speaker 2>How about Tyler Warren? Penn State tight end jack of

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<v Speaker 2>all trades does a million things well, but he's a

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<v Speaker 2>tight end. You got a good tight end. And Brenton

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<v Speaker 2>Strange he signed two guys in free agent teammates in college,

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<v Speaker 2>by the way, So I like him? Do I like

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<v Speaker 2>him at five?

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<v Speaker 3>No?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, there's a lot of good offensive linemen too. There

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<v Speaker 2>are who do you like amongst the offensive line besides

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<v Speaker 2>the guy at Alabama.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh Booker guard? Yeah, it's hard to not like him.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Will Campbell is the one that kind of issue. Everybody

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<v Speaker 2>has thrown his name up high and all these mock drafts,

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<v Speaker 2>And I'll be honest with you, I did at LSU

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<v Speaker 2>game this year. I didn't study the offensive line too hard.

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<v Speaker 2>Armand Membo Membo Missouri guy. Yeah, super athletic right tackle

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<v Speaker 2>at college. Is he going to be a tackle in

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<v Speaker 2>the pros? Is he going to be a guard?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's going to be interesting to see where

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<v Speaker 2>they view some of these eyes from positional aspect, because

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of these guys that were college tackles. The

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<v Speaker 2>draft knicks are kind of forecasting some of these guys

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<v Speaker 2>as interior offensive alignement.

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<v Speaker 1>Question.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they can draft them high, doesn't mean they're going

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<v Speaker 2>to start, they can go compete and maybe, but they've

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<v Speaker 2>got the left tackle Walker Little under contract, well, not

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<v Speaker 2>necessarily left tackle, he's under contracts under alignment, a decent

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<v Speaker 2>sized contract, a decent sized contract. But JP, the left

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<v Speaker 2>guard's got a decent sized contract. I'm here to tell

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<v Speaker 2>you that that contract doesn't say that you're going to

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<v Speaker 2>be given a spot. That's not what I'm saying. But

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just saying the finances of what we're dealing with here, right,

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<v Speaker 2>which is a very fair contract. I mean with with

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<v Speaker 2>Walker Little, I mean it's a it's a it's a

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<v Speaker 2>good contract, But that contract doesn't say he's my starting

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<v Speaker 2>left tackle. But you'd be comfortable with him as a

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<v Speaker 2>swing guy in theory. Well i'd like to not to

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<v Speaker 2>be paying on that much swiss whole argument. But I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>let him compete somewhere, guard tackle wherever.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean play.

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<v Speaker 2>Competition is the best thing on the planet. More competition,

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<v Speaker 2>better performance out of everybody. Let's come back in a moment.

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<v Speaker 2>We can talk draft a little more later. We got

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<v Speaker 2>to get to this the annual meetings, and we're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>hear from the heaven.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me say this just real quick.

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<v Speaker 2>If if Abdul Carter or Travis Hunter fall to the

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<v Speaker 2>Jaguars somehow at five run to the Mike Perkins had

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<v Speaker 2>better have that card brought up to the podium like

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<v Speaker 2>that in Green Bay, and he better have those cards

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<v Speaker 2>filled out already in advance, because you know, Perk's that guy.

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<v Speaker 1>He's the guy who in the car.

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<v Speaker 2>Those two guys are on a whole different level than

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of these other players. And there's some really

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<v Speaker 2>good football players, don't get me wrong. Those two guys though,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm talking Micah Parsons. And the biggest question about Travis

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<v Speaker 2>Hunter is is he going to be an elite wide

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<v Speaker 2>receiver an elite defensive back? Take his pick. He can

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<v Speaker 2>be both.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd be both. We're back at a moment. We'll take

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<v Speaker 1>a look at the offseason program coming up next week

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<v Speaker 1>on ten to XXL, Jaguars dot COmON Jaguars YouTube.

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<v Speaker 2>This is Jaguars Happy Out.

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<v Speaker 3>It's great to be intangibly curious, as our fan base

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<v Speaker 3>might be labeled at this point, but intangibly rich. I

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<v Speaker 3>think we can all get to a place that even

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<v Speaker 3>in our own minds, it means somewhat of the same thing.

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<v Speaker 3>When we're looking at on field intangibles. It's things like competitiveness, toughness,

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<v Speaker 3>and even instincts and nuances of each skill that is

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<v Speaker 3>offered up at each position. Off the field, you're looking about,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, how much passion does somebody have for the

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<v Speaker 3>game itself as well as what are they like as

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<v Speaker 3>a team might and a person off the field, And

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<v Speaker 3>so those are things that we gauge and really lean

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<v Speaker 3>into as a part of our decision making process. It's

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<v Speaker 3>really where we start at each point of player acquisition.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know, we got to remain agile at the

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<v Speaker 3>same time and be open to, you know, a number

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<v Speaker 3>of options. But at the end of the day, yes,

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<v Speaker 3>it's rooted in intangibles and that's something that we'll keep

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<v Speaker 3>as our north star as we round out this first

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<v Speaker 3>off season.

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<v Speaker 2>That's James glad So of course Jaguars GM with John

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<v Speaker 2>Osher at the NFL Annual Meeting earlier this week. The

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<v Speaker 2>owners Meeting is a full conversation at Jaguars dot com.

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<v Speaker 2>Jaguars Football is presented by a fresh from Florida. It's

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<v Speaker 2>always in season, JP Shadwick with Jeff Logoman. We're at

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<v Speaker 2>the Hyundai studios at the Miller Electric Center on tentinxl,

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<v Speaker 2>Jaguars dot Com and Jaguars YouTube. Intangibly curious is what

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<v Speaker 2>he called osher there, which is pretty pretty funny line

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<v Speaker 2>from the GM. I really like, though, how he You know,

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<v Speaker 2>everybody's been kind of wondering to summer extent, what what

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<v Speaker 2>does intangibly rich mean you? And I think he did

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<v Speaker 2>a pretty good job of spelling a little bit of

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<v Speaker 2>it out. I kind of wonder too, because when when

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<v Speaker 2>you get to encounter a lot of these prospects that

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<v Speaker 2>you're considering drafting or even signing as undrafted free agents,

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<v Speaker 2>there's a lot of information that you acquire on film

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<v Speaker 2>and physicals and all that other stuff. I just wonder

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<v Speaker 2>how much that they're investing in I don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>say private eyes, but in really researching the background of

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<v Speaker 2>these players, because you know, jp when when these guys

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<v Speaker 2>go to a meeting at the combine, they're they're prepped,

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<v Speaker 2>they're prepped, they're they're taught how to handle themselves, how

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<v Speaker 2>to conduct themselves by their agents, and but you know,

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<v Speaker 2>what you really want to find out is how these

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<v Speaker 2>people are when they're not being interviewed and when they're

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<v Speaker 2>walking around, how they are with their teammates, how they

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<v Speaker 2>are with staff, how they are with their family. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>you want to know as much as you possibly can

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<v Speaker 2>because you're getting ready to make millions of dollars of investments,

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<v Speaker 2>millions into these players, and you want to make sure

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<v Speaker 2>that you make the right decisions and the scouts are

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<v Speaker 2>involved in that. The local area scout scouts should be

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<v Speaker 2>able to have great lines of communication. And if you

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<v Speaker 2>have scouts that have not fostered great relationships in their area,

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<v Speaker 2>and find somebody that can be around, right, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>because that is part of the job of finding out

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<v Speaker 2>the true the true use of these players, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>So I would hope that there's a great emphasis put

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<v Speaker 2>into that because we have not done a good job,

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<v Speaker 2>a good enough job as an organization in the past

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<v Speaker 2>of with some of that stuff. I mean, we had

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<v Speaker 2>a draft picked a couple of years ago that we

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<v Speaker 2>drafted in the US around a corner out of Florida

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<v Speaker 2>that when he got drafted, you would assume that the

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<v Speaker 2>kid didn't even want to play here.

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<v Speaker 1>That reaction on the couch at his house.

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<v Speaker 2>And that once he got here you would have assumed

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<v Speaker 2>that he didn't want to play then either. Henderson and

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<v Speaker 2>then he didn't want to play when he got traded either.

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<v Speaker 2>He's been heard a little bit, make a couple of

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<v Speaker 2>phone calls. You could have found that out.

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<v Speaker 1>That was a rough one. That was a rough one.

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<v Speaker 1>There's others. We can go back.

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<v Speaker 2>We can go back in history if we want. We've

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<v Speaker 2>got a few more. We got our surrounders. Thirty eight

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<v Speaker 2>minutes left in the show. It might not be enough time.

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<v Speaker 1>For all those.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, vet them, vet them, vet them, vet them, spend

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<v Speaker 2>the resources. Look, when you have a phone plan, JP,

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<v Speaker 2>you're not getting charged by the minute anymore. No, really, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>may you got the unlimited plan?

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<v Speaker 1>Amazing?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, make sure your scouts have the unlimited plan so

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<v Speaker 2>they can make all the phone calls that they need

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<v Speaker 2>to make. By the way, you remember when you had

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<v Speaker 2>to like stop piled minutes and you had the family

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<v Speaker 2>plan and you had to like combined minutes. I remember

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<v Speaker 2>paying a dollar ninety a minute for selling your one,

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<v Speaker 2>and then they had they charged you by the text message,

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<v Speaker 2>whether you got it or or said it, you were

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<v Speaker 2>getting charged Like I didn't get I didn't get it.

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<v Speaker 1>Sent to me.

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<v Speaker 2>I get five cents a text message.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you guys?

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<v Speaker 2>Just crazy crazy for a long time.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>But anyway, you got unlimited plans now, so that Scout

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<v Speaker 2>utilize that service. Excited find out all you can.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you ever have a rotary phone? Probably when you

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<v Speaker 1>were a kid.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh yeah, yeah, yeah, when I was a kid. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean it was what you knew, man, that's just

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<v Speaker 2>what it was.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Remember the first cordless phone we had in the house.

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<v Speaker 2>It was like, oh wow, this thing has an antenna

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<v Speaker 2>on it. You'll walk around it. I'll never forget my

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<v Speaker 2>first cell your phone. It was by I had a

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<v Speaker 2>plan from cell you or one, and I was with

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<v Speaker 2>the Jets at the time, and and so I got

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<v Speaker 2>this thing in just in case, you know, something happened.

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<v Speaker 2>And it was in a bag like like literally like

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<v Speaker 2>a like a kind of a shoebox size cloth bag,

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<v Speaker 2>and it literally was you had to pay like I

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<v Speaker 2>think it was like eighty bucks a month or something

0:21:24.119 --> 0:21:26.439
<v Speaker 2>like that, and then you had to pay like a

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<v Speaker 2>dollar ninety a minute. So it was like, hey, man,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll be there in five minutes. Right, You're looking at

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<v Speaker 2>your stop watch or something, you know, and making sure

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<v Speaker 2>you were hanging up before you had you know, too

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<v Speaker 2>many minutes on.

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<v Speaker 1>There, but I mean, anyway, pretty wild.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, use those minutes, you got them, They're unlimited vet

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<v Speaker 2>these players. I'm glad that that Johnny Ozone sat down

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<v Speaker 2>with James Gladstone.

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<v Speaker 1>They stood up technically, but yes, I'm with you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I like it. I like it. It's good. It's

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<v Speaker 2>a good conversation. We had it the other day on

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<v Speaker 2>jags Aam. We could check it out there or on

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<v Speaker 2>Jaguars dot com or Jaguars YouTube as it stands by itself.

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<v Speaker 2>And uh, I'm sure I would guess at some point

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<v Speaker 2>next week maybe there could be some more availability with

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<v Speaker 2>the off season program about to get underway. And then

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<v Speaker 2>at some point, I'm sure there's gonna be a like

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<v Speaker 2>a draft, probably a pre draft lunching, whatever you want

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<v Speaker 2>to call it. You know, usually it's out so we

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<v Speaker 2>can find out exactly who they're gonna take. They're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>give us all the answers and then feed us a sandwich. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>they're not gonna give much information, but i mean, look

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<v Speaker 2>at you know, now's the time I think we're between

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<v Speaker 2>because what how how many days away is the draft?

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<v Speaker 2>For it's literally one day because it's three weeks away

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<v Speaker 2>and between now and.

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<v Speaker 1>In that night.

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<v Speaker 2>This is this is what you call the rumor period, right,

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<v Speaker 2>this is where a lot of misinformation gets spread. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so everything that you hear from now until then, take

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<v Speaker 2>it with a grain of salt. You think it's BS,

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<v Speaker 2>not necessarily BS, but it's yeah. I mean there's a

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<v Speaker 2>there's a lot of maneuvering and all the different mock

0:23:11.560 --> 0:23:13.560
<v Speaker 2>drafts that are coming out, and then people are going

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<v Speaker 2>to plant little ideas and information and different media members. Look,

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<v Speaker 2>there's personality.

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<v Speaker 1>You might be doing it right now with Mason Graham

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<v Speaker 1>might be oh he's not good.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe maybe you're trying to, like, you know, maybe be stealthy,

0:23:26.240 --> 0:23:28.200
<v Speaker 2>loud the Jaguars to fall back a couple of spots

0:23:28.240 --> 0:23:33.399
<v Speaker 2>and them because maybe you're playing, you're planting the seed.

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<v Speaker 2>You're part of the system. I like the idea of

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<v Speaker 2>getting more picks. I've always been a big fan of

0:23:38.560 --> 0:23:42.280
<v Speaker 2>accumulating picks because the reality is is that the draft

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<v Speaker 2>it is a numbers game. Your accuracy of making the

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<v Speaker 2>right pick is not great. So the more picks you have,

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<v Speaker 2>the better chance you have of making a right pick.

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<v Speaker 1>But if just a guy up there you really want

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<v Speaker 1>just get it.

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<v Speaker 2>Who would you jp if you had your choice, you

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<v Speaker 2>were picking number one.

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<v Speaker 1>Overall, I'm going Travis Hunter. Travis Hunter. I think he's

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<v Speaker 1>that dynamic.

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<v Speaker 2>Where would you play him?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean for this team.

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<v Speaker 2>We've talked about this before and I haven't gotten your

0:24:19.119 --> 0:24:21.480
<v Speaker 2>thoughts on it. So and I'm going both ways on it,

0:24:21.480 --> 0:24:24.280
<v Speaker 2>because you could use cornerback play on this team right

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<v Speaker 2>in a number of different ways, even though with the

0:24:28.119 --> 0:24:30.640
<v Speaker 2>free agent you signed and some things you have. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>if you put that guy out on one side and

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<v Speaker 2>call that a day, I think, or you put him

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<v Speaker 2>at receiver full time and then bring him in in

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<v Speaker 2>a certain.

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<v Speaker 1>Packages on defense, I think you can do it both ways. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you could.

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<v Speaker 2>But the problem is if he gets hurt, you lose

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<v Speaker 2>two players. Correct, You're losing two positions, Yeah, which is

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<v Speaker 2>not good. So that's the scary part of what this is.

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<v Speaker 2>But when he's out there, ball skills, speed, dynamic, got

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<v Speaker 2>his head on his shoulders. I mean, he's got everything

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<v Speaker 2>you want, so I would and if it were me,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's just this is me, it's hard to.

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<v Speaker 1>Pass that up.

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<v Speaker 2>And you're playing them on defense for the most part,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe say we'll see you know, I don't know. It's great,

0:25:21.840 --> 0:25:24.520
<v Speaker 2>it's a great enough. It's a great debate. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>there's how much do you let him drive it and

0:25:27.480 --> 0:25:29.159
<v Speaker 2>be like, I want to do everything. I don't know

0:25:29.200 --> 0:25:32.440
<v Speaker 2>about that. An NFL game typically consists about sixty five

0:25:32.560 --> 0:25:38.800
<v Speaker 2>plays for each team, right, offensively, right, So you can't

0:25:38.840 --> 0:25:41.680
<v Speaker 2>expect him to play, you know, one hundred and twenty

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<v Speaker 2>to one hundred and thirty snaps a game.

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<v Speaker 1>So he did the Colorado more than that more plays.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think college football has that many snaps, do

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<v Speaker 2>they They well, they used to that a whole lot more,

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<v Speaker 2>and so they changed the clock rule a couple of

0:25:54.640 --> 0:25:57.359
<v Speaker 2>years ago. The clock runs on and maybe that is

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<v Speaker 2>the case. But I mean, I just can't imagine a

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<v Speaker 2>player with standing one hundred and thirty snaps a game.

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<v Speaker 2>I just can't see that. And on top of that,

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<v Speaker 2>you're what what does that do to the longevity of

0:26:13.560 --> 0:26:17.439
<v Speaker 2>the player if he's taking that number of snaps? All

0:26:17.520 --> 0:26:20.359
<v Speaker 2>a great argument it's more physical in the NFL and

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<v Speaker 2>theory in the NFL, right, yes, it is. The theory

0:26:23.240 --> 0:26:27.200
<v Speaker 2>it is. It's a tough one. It's because you want

0:26:27.240 --> 0:26:29.960
<v Speaker 2>your best guy out there. Yeah, he's he's a.

0:26:30.040 --> 0:26:30.959
<v Speaker 1>He's a great player.

0:26:31.400 --> 0:26:35.920
<v Speaker 2>And it's amazing to me that you literally that there

0:26:36.000 --> 0:26:38.800
<v Speaker 2>is a debate about a player. I mean, because look

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<v Speaker 2>all the great two way players that have been in

0:26:41.680 --> 0:26:45.399
<v Speaker 2>the bo Jackson, you know, played offense. Uh well, but

0:26:45.440 --> 0:26:48.280
<v Speaker 2>I mean dual sport guy, right, Dion sand you know,

0:26:48.320 --> 0:26:54.639
<v Speaker 2>and which one was he gonna do? Right, Okay, Dion Sanders, Okay, returner,

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<v Speaker 2>defensive back. Little packages that he had on offense, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>they were great. But there I don't think there's ever

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<v Speaker 2>been You probably got to go way back, way way

0:27:07.480 --> 0:27:12.560
<v Speaker 2>back to find somebody that had a legitimate it was

0:27:12.600 --> 0:27:20.400
<v Speaker 2>a legitimate two way football player offense and defense. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>just nobody's ever really done that in modern day era.

0:27:23.520 --> 0:27:23.960
<v Speaker 1>It's tough.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I mean you're gonna go back to like

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<v Speaker 2>Chuck Bignerik probably right, right. I mean, Charles Woodson was

0:27:37.200 --> 0:27:42.040
<v Speaker 2>special teams, but he was a defense you know, But

0:27:42.200 --> 0:27:45.840
<v Speaker 2>there was nobody that was true there. Well, there hasn't

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<v Speaker 2>been anybody in the modern era of football the Super

0:27:48.920 --> 0:27:53.720
<v Speaker 2>Bowl receiver. Yeah, but it was limited and it was later,

0:27:54.320 --> 0:27:57.040
<v Speaker 2>it was very limited. But there's nobody been in the

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think in the Super Bowl era through been

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<v Speaker 2>been both ways, starting on defense, starting on offense. They've

0:28:04.200 --> 0:28:09.240
<v Speaker 2>kept expanding the rosters and the whole thing. Yeah, interesting, interesting,

0:28:10.080 --> 0:28:11.879
<v Speaker 2>Let's come back. I prom but I like your I

0:28:12.040 --> 0:28:14.959
<v Speaker 2>like your pick. I mean, he's he is special, and

0:28:15.000 --> 0:28:18.560
<v Speaker 2>he loves ball, loves ball, and he's got some of

0:28:18.560 --> 0:28:22.639
<v Speaker 2>the best ball skills on the defensive side or the

0:28:22.680 --> 0:28:26.080
<v Speaker 2>offensive side, some of the best ball skills I've ever

0:28:26.160 --> 0:28:30.200
<v Speaker 2>seen of anybody. Wide receiver, defensive back, doesn't matter.

0:28:30.040 --> 0:28:32.560
<v Speaker 1>And stakes can break on it the whole season game.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's come back.

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<v Speaker 2>I promise we're gonna hear from Liam Cohen. Okay, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna make it a point to run these Liam Cohen

0:28:40.920 --> 0:28:43.600
<v Speaker 2>clips when we come back, because that's what you want

0:28:43.600 --> 0:28:45.800
<v Speaker 2>to hear. You want to hear about the off season

0:28:45.880 --> 0:28:48.840
<v Speaker 2>program next week, I.

0:28:48.800 --> 0:28:49.240
<v Speaker 1>Want to hear.

0:28:49.840 --> 0:28:53.240
<v Speaker 2>I want to hear this football team is gonna win,

0:28:53.640 --> 0:28:56.280
<v Speaker 2>all right. We want to hear how this team is

0:28:56.320 --> 0:29:00.400
<v Speaker 2>going to organize and execute. Well, maybe what an answer

0:29:00.480 --> 0:29:03.120
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<v Speaker 4>You know, that's the first thing when we're really trying

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<v Speaker 4>to place to just feel guys like, this is good stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>It's great to be back.

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<v Speaker 4>We're doing football.

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<v Speaker 2>Guys.

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<v Speaker 4>How many of us get to do this. We get

0:29:40.320 --> 0:29:44.200
<v Speaker 4>an opportunity to do this every single day. There's so

0:29:44.240 --> 0:29:45.760
<v Speaker 4>many that don't. And so how are we going to

0:29:45.840 --> 0:29:48.040
<v Speaker 4>approach this thing? I think they'll walk into that kind

0:29:48.040 --> 0:29:50.520
<v Speaker 4>of feeling and you know.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll meet.

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<v Speaker 4>We'll just do meetings obviously throughout phase one introducing our

0:29:54.200 --> 0:29:57.200
<v Speaker 4>systems while we at the same time start to introduce

0:29:57.320 --> 0:29:59.280
<v Speaker 4>our culture, the way that we're going to be, the

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<v Speaker 4>way the we're going to talk to each other, the

0:30:01.520 --> 0:30:03.320
<v Speaker 4>way that we're going to communicate with each other, how

0:30:03.320 --> 0:30:06.400
<v Speaker 4>we're gonna treat one another. That'll go hand in hand

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<v Speaker 4>with the systems.

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<v Speaker 2>Is Liam Cohen at the ANC Coaches Breakfast at the

0:30:10.480 --> 0:30:13.959
<v Speaker 2>NFL Annual Meeting earlier this week down in Palm Beach

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<v Speaker 2>at the Breakers and welcome back, it is Jaguars Happy Hour.

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<v Speaker 1>The question to Liam Cohen there JP.

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<v Speaker 2>Shadwick, Jeff Logwan on Jaguars Happy Hour, by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>was a what do players expect next week when they

0:30:44.600 --> 0:30:46.960
<v Speaker 2>come back in the building for the first time, maybe

0:30:47.000 --> 0:30:50.240
<v Speaker 2>the first time for the off season program. It's the

0:30:50.280 --> 0:30:55.120
<v Speaker 2>first opportunity for Cohen and the coaching staff and the

0:30:55.120 --> 0:30:57.280
<v Speaker 2>strength and conditioning staff who will have them on the

0:30:57.280 --> 0:30:59.960
<v Speaker 2>field to really get in front of these guys.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's the answer.

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<v Speaker 2>How how important is this first impression for Liam Cohen

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<v Speaker 2>and the staff. Well, I think it's important. But then

0:31:08.080 --> 0:31:10.000
<v Speaker 2>you know the other thing too that you just brought

0:31:10.080 --> 0:31:12.520
<v Speaker 2>up about the strength and conditioning staff, which, oh, by

0:31:12.560 --> 0:31:14.960
<v Speaker 2>the way, that's new. They're new too, That is new.

0:31:15.040 --> 0:31:17.760
<v Speaker 2>So there's a lot of new when the players walk

0:31:17.800 --> 0:31:22.840
<v Speaker 2>into the building and uh, which can be a great thing.

0:31:23.760 --> 0:31:27.040
<v Speaker 2>And part of that newness is also going to be

0:31:27.160 --> 0:31:32.600
<v Speaker 2>that everybody is starting from ground zero. Everybody has an opportunity,

0:31:32.720 --> 0:31:37.720
<v Speaker 2>you know, making a strong first impression and building relationships

0:31:37.720 --> 0:31:41.920
<v Speaker 2>as everybody's moving forward, and it's it's incredibly important that

0:31:42.000 --> 0:31:46.800
<v Speaker 2>the culture begins to be established that very first moment,

0:31:47.800 --> 0:31:54.479
<v Speaker 2>and anything less than the acceptable culture ways are not okay.

0:31:55.240 --> 0:31:57.320
<v Speaker 2>And so I think it's going to be a very

0:31:57.360 --> 0:32:00.920
<v Speaker 2>important day. But it's something that has to be built

0:32:00.960 --> 0:32:03.360
<v Speaker 2>every day. It's not something that Okay, hey guys, here's

0:32:03.360 --> 0:32:05.760
<v Speaker 2>how we're gonna be. All right, let's all march and

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<v Speaker 2>we're good.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

0:32:06.920 --> 0:32:10.960
<v Speaker 2>It's a daily process that has to continue to be reinforced.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's for years.

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<v Speaker 2>That's not just one year, and a work ethic and

0:32:15.520 --> 0:32:20.080
<v Speaker 2>a level of expectation of look, this is where we

0:32:20.240 --> 0:32:25.000
<v Speaker 2>are gonna be, okay, anything less is unacceptable. I mean,

0:32:25.080 --> 0:32:28.000
<v Speaker 2>those are the things that need to be established from

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<v Speaker 2>the very early on days and the moments that you have.

0:32:31.800 --> 0:32:38.360
<v Speaker 2>But again, it has to be consistently and reoccurring positively

0:32:38.480 --> 0:32:41.640
<v Speaker 2>enforced all the time. It's not a sum of the

0:32:41.720 --> 0:32:44.840
<v Speaker 2>time thing. It's an all the time thing. By the way,

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<v Speaker 2>the off season program yes begins officially April eighth. The

0:32:48.520 --> 0:32:52.240
<v Speaker 2>league announced all the off season dates officially for every

0:32:52.280 --> 0:32:56.000
<v Speaker 2>team Earlier today. So the first day for the jag

0:32:56.080 --> 0:32:59.760
<v Speaker 2>is April eighth. They it can begin April seventh, but

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<v Speaker 2>the Jaguars will be in April eighth. Voluntary mini camp,

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<v Speaker 2>which I know you love those in the off season

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<v Speaker 2>logs your your history of voluntary camps April twenty first

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<v Speaker 2>through twenty.

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<v Speaker 1>Three, don't.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't mind them.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, well, I'm going back to your history as

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<v Speaker 1>a player.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that wasn't That was not a voluntary mini.

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<v Speaker 1>Camp that I was not at that voluntary.

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<v Speaker 2>That was no, it was a voluntary early report date

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<v Speaker 2>to training camp.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what we had.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what I'm talking about, after we had twenty voluntary

0:33:30.120 --> 0:33:32.880
<v Speaker 2>days already in the off season. It was voluntary though.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyway. NFL Draft April twenty fourth through twenty six.

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<v Speaker 2>Phase two April twenty eighth for the Jaguars, OTAs in May,

0:33:43.760 --> 0:33:47.800
<v Speaker 2>a number of days there, that's Phase number three, and

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<v Speaker 2>then mandatory mini camp in June June ten, eleven, and twelve.

0:33:52.760 --> 0:33:56.400
<v Speaker 2>It'll be interesting to see kind of what you know

0:33:56.440 --> 0:34:00.240
<v Speaker 2>you've seen in the past to where you have all

0:34:00.280 --> 0:34:05.080
<v Speaker 2>of these voluntary days in the off season and then

0:34:05.080 --> 0:34:06.800
<v Speaker 2>all of a sudden you get to the mini camp

0:34:06.840 --> 0:34:09.000
<v Speaker 2>and you're like hey, and all of a sudden they

0:34:09.080 --> 0:34:12.040
<v Speaker 2>don't have it. Well, that's what happened with Doug Peterson,

0:34:12.080 --> 0:34:15.960
<v Speaker 2>right if he had good attendance throughout the off season,

0:34:16.000 --> 0:34:19.080
<v Speaker 2>then he would just go ahead and bang the mandatory one,

0:34:19.400 --> 0:34:21.759
<v Speaker 2>or let the only the rookies have to come, or

0:34:21.760 --> 0:34:24.960
<v Speaker 2>whatever veterance come. I was never a fan of canceling

0:34:25.000 --> 0:34:29.160
<v Speaker 2>the mini camp because I understand what Doug's kind of

0:34:29.239 --> 0:34:32.399
<v Speaker 2>goal was, is that to allow the players to have

0:34:32.719 --> 0:34:34.839
<v Speaker 2>a mental and physical break so that they're fresh when

0:34:34.840 --> 0:34:38.719
<v Speaker 2>they come back. But there's ways to keep the players

0:34:39.680 --> 0:34:43.840
<v Speaker 2>in a fresh way throughout the whole off season. There's

0:34:43.960 --> 0:34:48.600
<v Speaker 2>times that you can give them breaks or time off,

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<v Speaker 2>But if you're giving them the time off at the

0:34:52.400 --> 0:34:59.480
<v Speaker 2>mandatory mini camp, that's the most allowable or the fewest

0:34:59.520 --> 0:35:02.719
<v Speaker 2>restricts on what you can and can't do in all

0:35:02.760 --> 0:35:05.920
<v Speaker 2>of the off season. Yes, so if you're gonna if

0:35:05.960 --> 0:35:11.760
<v Speaker 2>you're gonna bypass something or to not do something, don't

0:35:11.840 --> 0:35:15.799
<v Speaker 2>make it the one that has the most value of

0:35:15.880 --> 0:35:18.279
<v Speaker 2>all of the off season activity. And I'm gonna say

0:35:18.320 --> 0:35:20.160
<v Speaker 2>something here, I might get in hot water with you

0:35:20.360 --> 0:35:24.480
<v Speaker 2>on this. It's three days for goodness, sake, right, It's

0:35:24.640 --> 0:35:25.360
<v Speaker 2>three days.

0:35:26.000 --> 0:35:29.000
<v Speaker 1>How could that be such an issue. It's three days,

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<v Speaker 1>go work for three days.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so I'm all for it, thank you. Okay, now

0:35:34.160 --> 0:35:36.319
<v Speaker 2>I'm all for it. I didn't know if other side.

0:35:36.520 --> 0:35:37.920
<v Speaker 2>My point is that if you want to give the

0:35:37.960 --> 0:35:40.240
<v Speaker 2>players some time off, don't make it the mini camp.

0:35:40.440 --> 0:35:42.239
<v Speaker 1>They got five weeks off coming up.

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<v Speaker 2>Right after the day after exactly five weeks, totally understand.

0:35:47.880 --> 0:35:48.920
<v Speaker 1>Do the three days.

0:35:49.200 --> 0:35:52.200
<v Speaker 2>And for some teams, like the teams that were in

0:35:52.239 --> 0:35:55.200
<v Speaker 2>the playoffs and had the season extended, and you know,

0:35:55.239 --> 0:35:58.680
<v Speaker 2>they're not a time off they had has been shorter,

0:35:58.719 --> 0:36:02.880
<v Speaker 2>Well that's not the case here. Okay, So the players

0:36:02.920 --> 0:36:04.040
<v Speaker 2>should be kind of fresh.

0:36:03.880 --> 0:36:04.600
<v Speaker 1>And ready to go.

0:36:05.239 --> 0:36:06.839
<v Speaker 2>But if you need to give them a little bit

0:36:06.880 --> 0:36:08.959
<v Speaker 2>of a break, don't take it out of that mini camp.

0:36:09.040 --> 0:36:09.440
<v Speaker 1>Take it.

0:36:09.719 --> 0:36:12.080
<v Speaker 2>Take it out of like one of the other phase

0:36:12.239 --> 0:36:15.799
<v Speaker 2>days that have more restrictions about what you can and

0:36:15.840 --> 0:36:18.640
<v Speaker 2>can't do. You want to be able to do as

0:36:18.719 --> 0:36:22.000
<v Speaker 2>much as you possibly can, which is at that stage

0:36:22.400 --> 0:36:24.880
<v Speaker 2>of the off season, which is where the many mandatory

0:36:24.960 --> 0:36:29.759
<v Speaker 2>mini camp falls. Phrases you're not allowed to have like

0:36:29.840 --> 0:36:34.440
<v Speaker 2>one on ones, you're not allowed to have, you're allowed

0:36:34.440 --> 0:36:36.920
<v Speaker 2>to have all of that in the mini camp, So

0:36:37.040 --> 0:36:41.240
<v Speaker 2>don't take don't take that away faste, you know, ot

0:36:41.320 --> 0:36:44.360
<v Speaker 2>A three four, Okay, yeah, take a day or whatever. Correct,

0:36:44.360 --> 0:36:48.640
<v Speaker 2>But hey, they could take them anyway. They're voluntary up

0:36:48.680 --> 0:36:49.959
<v Speaker 2>until the mandatory mini camp.

0:36:50.000 --> 0:36:52.120
<v Speaker 1>Correct. I'm just telling you in theory they can.

0:36:52.360 --> 0:36:54.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but you know, so you need to day take

0:36:54.120 --> 0:36:58.160
<v Speaker 2>the day and take the whole thing. Don't come all

0:36:58.520 --> 0:37:00.880
<v Speaker 2>and look if there's guys that have a way of

0:37:02.239 --> 0:37:05.479
<v Speaker 2>preparing and it suits them best. On me, Josh Allen

0:37:05.480 --> 0:37:08.759
<v Speaker 2>a couple of years ago wasn't here at all in

0:37:08.840 --> 0:37:11.640
<v Speaker 2>the off season stuff right, and then came back for

0:37:11.719 --> 0:37:14.920
<v Speaker 2>the mandatory mini camp had his best year as a

0:37:14.960 --> 0:37:18.520
<v Speaker 2>pro by far? Is that necessarily the best course of

0:37:18.560 --> 0:37:21.239
<v Speaker 2>action though with a new staff, No, you need you

0:37:21.320 --> 0:37:24.000
<v Speaker 2>need to be here. That's the other side of the argument,

0:37:25.800 --> 0:37:29.520
<v Speaker 2>just saying play a handful of guys playing defense is

0:37:29.520 --> 0:37:32.239
<v Speaker 2>not rocket science. I mean, so it's not like you

0:37:32.320 --> 0:37:35.960
<v Speaker 2>need to be here for all of it. But I

0:37:35.960 --> 0:37:38.880
<v Speaker 2>would like to see Josh here for as much as possible.

0:37:39.680 --> 0:37:42.600
<v Speaker 2>But if he's not here for certain parts of it, okay,

0:37:42.680 --> 0:37:44.799
<v Speaker 2>that's fine. If it works for him, it works for him.

0:37:44.800 --> 0:37:45.439
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna guess.

0:37:45.440 --> 0:37:49.160
<v Speaker 2>So there's probably only a handful of players that could well,

0:37:49.200 --> 0:37:52.480
<v Speaker 2>they can all get away with it because of the CBA. Correct,

0:37:52.520 --> 0:37:55.680
<v Speaker 2>But there's probably a certain level of player on this team,

0:37:55.760 --> 0:37:58.200
<v Speaker 2>and probably not as deep as you think that could

0:37:58.560 --> 0:38:00.600
<v Speaker 2>truly be.

0:38:00.760 --> 0:38:02.719
<v Speaker 1>Okay, I don't know.

0:38:02.880 --> 0:38:05.200
<v Speaker 2>Well, when I'm not speaking as a team and that's

0:38:05.320 --> 0:38:07.640
<v Speaker 2>that's voluntary, I get it. The one thing that that

0:38:07.800 --> 0:38:10.960
<v Speaker 2>is definitely the case, there's a few untouchables, that's all

0:38:10.960 --> 0:38:13.600
<v Speaker 2>I'm saying. Yeah, I mean, there are guys that are

0:38:13.680 --> 0:38:17.399
<v Speaker 2>untouchable from a contract standpoint, and that's a fact. But

0:38:17.440 --> 0:38:20.120
<v Speaker 2>the one thing that is definitely true in this case

0:38:20.200 --> 0:38:24.200
<v Speaker 2>is that when you have a whole new regime, Okay,

0:38:24.480 --> 0:38:30.000
<v Speaker 2>what you've done in the past or any you know,

0:38:30.080 --> 0:38:32.440
<v Speaker 2>if JP, let's say you were a draft pick a

0:38:32.440 --> 0:38:34.320
<v Speaker 2>couple of years ago, a high one, right, I was

0:38:34.360 --> 0:38:36.640
<v Speaker 2>a high draft. Hey, look, it really doesn't matter anymore.

0:38:37.280 --> 0:38:41.120
<v Speaker 2>You know, you've got a new regime. There's uh, you know,

0:38:41.280 --> 0:38:44.320
<v Speaker 2>the general manager that may have drafted you is gone.

0:38:45.200 --> 0:38:48.040
<v Speaker 2>So the new general manager is not going to look

0:38:48.080 --> 0:38:49.760
<v Speaker 2>good or bad if he keeps you or he doesn't

0:38:49.800 --> 0:38:54.000
<v Speaker 2>keep you. You know, there's veteran guys it doesn't matter.

0:38:54.040 --> 0:38:55.839
<v Speaker 2>It doesn't it's not going to make the new general

0:38:55.840 --> 0:38:58.359
<v Speaker 2>manage look good or bad if he keeps you or

0:38:58.360 --> 0:39:01.319
<v Speaker 2>he doesn't keep you where they decide that you're not

0:39:01.400 --> 0:39:02.960
<v Speaker 2>a part of the program, or you are a part

0:39:02.960 --> 0:39:05.640
<v Speaker 2>of the program. You know. So everybody is kind of

0:39:05.680 --> 0:39:09.000
<v Speaker 2>starting at ground zero from that standpoint. But then again,

0:39:09.120 --> 0:39:16.160
<v Speaker 2>there are contracts that make certain guys untouchable part of

0:39:16.160 --> 0:39:20.440
<v Speaker 2>the business professional football. But everybody has a clean slate.

0:39:20.800 --> 0:39:24.600
<v Speaker 2>Nobody has any built up equity, so to speak, even

0:39:24.600 --> 0:39:29.320
<v Speaker 2>though some guys do just from an experience and play standpoint,

0:39:29.719 --> 0:39:32.680
<v Speaker 2>but a lot of guys don't have any of that equity.

0:39:32.360 --> 0:39:36.040
<v Speaker 1>Built up at all. So we'll see. I bet attendants

0:39:36.080 --> 0:39:38.880
<v Speaker 1>will be pretty high in this offseason program, as.

0:39:38.719 --> 0:39:40.360
<v Speaker 2>It should be. I mean, look, this is a great

0:39:40.360 --> 0:39:43.040
<v Speaker 2>place to live. And here's the other thing that I've

0:39:43.080 --> 0:39:46.360
<v Speaker 2>made this point for a number of years. If you

0:39:46.440 --> 0:39:48.760
<v Speaker 2>are out and training on your own and you get hurt,

0:39:49.920 --> 0:39:55.200
<v Speaker 2>you're on your own non football NFI list baby, Okay,

0:39:55.200 --> 0:39:58.240
<v Speaker 2>and you know what that means. You don't get paid. Okay.

0:39:58.280 --> 0:40:01.040
<v Speaker 2>If you get hurt while you're working under the umbrella

0:40:01.120 --> 0:40:05.239
<v Speaker 2>of the team, Okay, then that's in the line of

0:40:05.320 --> 0:40:09.879
<v Speaker 2>duty injury. Where would you rather work out somewhere where

0:40:09.920 --> 0:40:13.799
<v Speaker 2>there is no way of you getting paid if you

0:40:13.880 --> 0:40:17.479
<v Speaker 2>got hurt, or if you work out here, then you're

0:40:17.480 --> 0:40:20.879
<v Speaker 2>gonna get paid because you were in the facility working out.

0:40:21.120 --> 0:40:22.759
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it seems like an easy answer.

0:40:22.680 --> 0:40:25.319
<v Speaker 2>And I can tell you this just I mean from

0:40:25.560 --> 0:40:31.240
<v Speaker 2>my experience, working out with your teammates is great because

0:40:31.280 --> 0:40:35.840
<v Speaker 2>it's competitive. You can help raise the level of everything

0:40:35.880 --> 0:40:37.719
<v Speaker 2>you do in the off season. When you're working out

0:40:37.719 --> 0:40:42.520
<v Speaker 2>with your teammates, you build relationships and with a lot

0:40:42.560 --> 0:40:44.279
<v Speaker 2>of new faces that are going to be coming in,

0:40:44.360 --> 0:40:47.200
<v Speaker 2>this is a chance for them to get to know everybody.

0:40:47.239 --> 0:40:49.000
<v Speaker 2>I mean, speaking of working out away from the building,

0:40:49.000 --> 0:40:51.080
<v Speaker 2>you don't want to do one day? What what are

0:40:51.080 --> 0:40:55.080
<v Speaker 2>those darkness retreats? Aaron Rodgers did? That sounds fun? That

0:40:55.160 --> 0:40:58.440
<v Speaker 2>guy that sounds like an interesting Rogers playing for the

0:40:58.440 --> 0:41:00.759
<v Speaker 2>Pittsburgh Steelers just as work for me.

0:41:01.640 --> 0:41:03.680
<v Speaker 1>We'll see. They haven't announced anything.

0:41:03.480 --> 0:41:06.120
<v Speaker 2>Yet, I know, but it's going that way right, trending

0:41:06.160 --> 0:41:09.759
<v Speaker 2>that direction. Can you picture Aaron Rodgers in these in

0:41:09.840 --> 0:41:14.839
<v Speaker 2>his darkness retreats fitting in with the Pittsburgh Steelers. It's

0:41:14.520 --> 0:41:16.200
<v Speaker 2>a it's a different place.

0:41:17.960 --> 0:41:20.120
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Man, let's come back in a moment.

0:41:20.719 --> 0:41:24.800
<v Speaker 1>We will tease The Hunt. It is back tonight, can't wait.

0:41:25.600 --> 0:41:30.600
<v Speaker 2>I love that show. I think it's every NFL team

0:41:31.680 --> 0:41:34.680
<v Speaker 2>should do something like this, and some of them try. Yeah,

0:41:35.239 --> 0:41:38.239
<v Speaker 2>not to this extent, not as not like the Jaguars.

0:41:38.440 --> 0:41:44.359
<v Speaker 2>The Hunt is outstanding must watch football viewing entertainment. We're

0:41:44.400 --> 0:41:46.600
<v Speaker 2>on tens, n x l a M, Jaguars dot com,

0:41:46.600 --> 0:41:47.800
<v Speaker 2>and Jaguars YouTube.

0:41:47.880 --> 0:42:00.120
<v Speaker 1>It's Jaguars Happy Hour. That one's pleasure.

0:42:01.560 --> 0:42:26.960
<v Speaker 2>Sure, Season six, episode one. All right, let's go there.

0:42:27.080 --> 0:42:27.719
<v Speaker 1>You have it.

0:42:27.920 --> 0:42:33.920
<v Speaker 2>The Hunt back tonight, seven o'clock on Jaguars YouTube, featuring

0:42:34.000 --> 0:42:40.560
<v Speaker 2>unprecedented access into the leadership changes for the Jacksonville Jaguars.

0:42:41.239 --> 0:42:43.600
<v Speaker 2>I'm told it's thirty six minutes long.

0:42:43.640 --> 0:42:46.439
<v Speaker 1>One nice, very good.

0:42:46.600 --> 0:42:49.560
<v Speaker 2>That's almost like hopcorn in a cold wooden territory. That's

0:42:49.640 --> 0:42:52.360
<v Speaker 2>enough time to do both. Oh yeah, I'll be uh.

0:42:52.920 --> 0:42:56.560
<v Speaker 2>I'll have a cold drink and watch it tonight. I

0:42:56.560 --> 0:42:59.400
<v Speaker 2>don't know about popcorn. No, not a popcorn.

0:42:59.400 --> 0:42:59.440
<v Speaker 3>No.

0:42:59.520 --> 0:43:01.800
<v Speaker 2>I like pop but I like popcorn movies.

0:43:02.000 --> 0:43:03.759
<v Speaker 1>I like them. This is damn. I mean, they might

0:43:03.760 --> 0:43:05.319
<v Speaker 1>as well get to sun Dance with this thing. That's

0:43:05.360 --> 0:43:07.120
<v Speaker 1>how long this thing is. And they've done a great

0:43:07.200 --> 0:43:08.799
<v Speaker 1>job with it. They really have.

0:43:08.920 --> 0:43:10.960
<v Speaker 2>I mean the whole crew, all the way top to bottom,

0:43:11.719 --> 0:43:15.200
<v Speaker 2>from kavanav of course to the canvas. Everet Sullivan kind

0:43:15.239 --> 0:43:18.400
<v Speaker 2>of leads the charge on this side of things, and

0:43:18.640 --> 0:43:20.520
<v Speaker 2>I mean we can go through the list here, but

0:43:20.840 --> 0:43:23.920
<v Speaker 2>Trent Padilla and Gabby Dalton have been working their tails

0:43:23.960 --> 0:43:27.440
<v Speaker 2>off over there. Andrew Curry ho the access given by

0:43:27.440 --> 0:43:30.200
<v Speaker 2>the football side. I mean, you'll see it tonight. I've

0:43:30.239 --> 0:43:33.440
<v Speaker 2>seen bits and pieces logs. The whole thing's going to

0:43:33.520 --> 0:43:36.560
<v Speaker 2>be fantas Yeah, looking forward to that. I will me

0:43:36.640 --> 0:43:39.800
<v Speaker 2>and the wife, Terra, we will definitely be watching that tonight.

0:43:40.000 --> 0:43:43.440
<v Speaker 1>Is that her name. I'm kidding, Yes, you know very well.

0:43:43.560 --> 0:43:46.319
<v Speaker 2>I know very well. Of course, we will definitely watch

0:43:46.400 --> 0:43:50.200
<v Speaker 2>that tonight. And you know, we always try to find

0:43:50.239 --> 0:43:53.640
<v Speaker 2>something to watch. But I can tell you this that

0:43:54.040 --> 0:43:58.680
<v Speaker 2>is on my list, like top five is when that

0:43:58.719 --> 0:44:02.440
<v Speaker 2>stuff comes out, you know, and I know all the people.

0:44:02.560 --> 0:44:04.680
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's i mean it's almost like we work here.

0:44:04.719 --> 0:44:09.239
<v Speaker 2>It's amazing, well imagine that, but it's still got I

0:44:09.239 --> 0:44:13.239
<v Speaker 2>mean the access that you get in the entertainment that

0:44:13.320 --> 0:44:17.960
<v Speaker 2>you get from it I think is outstanding and I

0:44:17.960 --> 0:44:20.920
<v Speaker 2>would recommend anybody that has not watched The Hunt that

0:44:21.520 --> 0:44:25.560
<v Speaker 2>do not miss this year's The Hunt series because it

0:44:25.640 --> 0:44:30.080
<v Speaker 2>is must watch TV if you're a football fan, if

0:44:30.080 --> 0:44:34.800
<v Speaker 2>you're looking to be entertained. This is great stuff.

0:44:35.040 --> 0:44:38.960
<v Speaker 1>Looking forward to seven o'clock Eastern tonight. Jaguars YouTube. They'll

0:44:39.080 --> 0:44:39.879
<v Speaker 1>stream it live there.

0:44:39.920 --> 0:44:41.879
<v Speaker 2>It will be on the Jaguars website at some point

0:44:42.239 --> 0:44:44.879
<v Speaker 2>very soon as well, so check that out. Jaguars Happy

0:44:44.880 --> 0:44:48.400
<v Speaker 2>Hour presented by Dream Pinders Homes, official homebuilder of the

0:44:48.440 --> 0:44:53.279
<v Speaker 2>Jacksonville Jaguars off season program. Next week, veterans will be

0:44:53.400 --> 0:44:57.280
<v Speaker 2>in first impressions for the head coach and the strength

0:44:57.280 --> 0:45:01.239
<v Speaker 2>and conditioning staff. And then we're closing it on the

0:45:01.320 --> 0:45:04.719
<v Speaker 2>NFL Draft three weeks away and the draft party this

0:45:04.800 --> 0:45:07.879
<v Speaker 2>year at Lemon Bar. Logs at the Lemon Bar.

0:45:08.040 --> 0:45:10.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's right, that's where we'll be.

0:45:11.040 --> 0:45:14.080
<v Speaker 2>No, we're going to be here, Oh, but the party

0:45:14.120 --> 0:45:16.360
<v Speaker 2>will be out. I don't want to be where the party.

0:45:16.400 --> 0:45:18.560
<v Speaker 2>I mean, maybe you could go out there and report back.

0:45:18.600 --> 0:45:23.000
<v Speaker 2>Can I be like a remote? I'm sure that would

0:45:23.040 --> 0:45:26.600
<v Speaker 2>go very well for you. Yeah, that'd be great. I'm

0:45:26.640 --> 0:45:30.160
<v Speaker 2>looking forward to the draft. I've been watching film for

0:45:30.239 --> 0:45:33.480
<v Speaker 2>the last couple of weeks, and I think it's going

0:45:33.520 --> 0:45:36.279
<v Speaker 2>to be a very interesting draft. And when I when

0:45:36.320 --> 0:45:38.200
<v Speaker 2>I said this earlier, there was kind of a reason

0:45:38.200 --> 0:45:39.480
<v Speaker 2>why I said that I would love to see the

0:45:39.520 --> 0:45:43.920
<v Speaker 2>Jaguars trade down just because they can accumulate some more picks.

0:45:44.000 --> 0:45:46.200
<v Speaker 2>But then also there's a lot of players that are

0:45:46.239 --> 0:45:49.880
<v Speaker 2>really close together. How do you get that after you

0:45:49.920 --> 0:45:53.400
<v Speaker 2>get past that elite group right at the top, and

0:45:54.840 --> 0:45:59.000
<v Speaker 2>more picks means better chance of hitting. And you've got

0:45:59.000 --> 0:46:01.960
<v Speaker 2>a great, great group of guys that are going to

0:46:02.040 --> 0:46:08.160
<v Speaker 2>be available in that eight to fifteen, sixteen seventeen. The

0:46:08.360 --> 0:46:11.759
<v Speaker 2>grades are they're going to be so close together that

0:46:11.840 --> 0:46:14.440
<v Speaker 2>you can get great value there. But you just you know,

0:46:14.760 --> 0:46:18.520
<v Speaker 2>again said this before, but you got to be willing

0:46:18.600 --> 0:46:20.920
<v Speaker 2>to find somebody that's wanting to trade up.

0:46:20.920 --> 0:46:22.560
<v Speaker 1>To do that. It takes two to tango.

0:46:23.080 --> 0:46:25.879
<v Speaker 2>There's more people that are willing to trade back than

0:46:25.920 --> 0:46:29.160
<v Speaker 2>are willing to trade up. I think that's yeah. You

0:46:29.320 --> 0:46:32.080
<v Speaker 2>always talk about we always hear about, oh, trade, this

0:46:32.120 --> 0:46:35.120
<v Speaker 2>could be a trade machine. Here we go, trade, trade, trade,

0:46:35.280 --> 0:46:38.080
<v Speaker 2>and then draft night rarely does something happen.

0:46:38.520 --> 0:46:38.759
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:46:38.840 --> 0:46:41.919
<v Speaker 2>I mean, look, sometimes I think in the last couple

0:46:41.960 --> 0:46:44.399
<v Speaker 2>of years the frequency of trades though have gone up.

0:46:45.520 --> 0:46:48.640
<v Speaker 2>So it was the last year and we've never been

0:46:48.680 --> 0:46:51.480
<v Speaker 2>around the mindset of James Gladstone and Liam Comb, so

0:46:51.520 --> 0:46:54.279
<v Speaker 2>we don't know kind of what their mo is. I mean,

0:46:54.280 --> 0:46:56.480
<v Speaker 2>they've got an opportunity to create their own m O.

0:46:56.760 --> 0:46:58.040
<v Speaker 1>Correct, we'll see.

0:46:58.160 --> 0:47:00.319
<v Speaker 2>I mean, we know we can follow the track record

0:47:00.360 --> 0:47:02.759
<v Speaker 2>in l A a little bit of what they did there,

0:47:02.800 --> 0:47:06.600
<v Speaker 2>but I mean he was more in the scouting side

0:47:06.640 --> 0:47:08.839
<v Speaker 2>of the draft than well. And I think the other

0:47:08.920 --> 0:47:13.319
<v Speaker 2>thing too, that is incredibly important. Every team has a

0:47:13.360 --> 0:47:16.840
<v Speaker 2>great opportunity after the draft to still continue to add

0:47:16.880 --> 0:47:20.600
<v Speaker 2>talent to the I was trying to think of the environment.

0:47:20.680 --> 0:47:23.759
<v Speaker 2>Is that what the ecosystem? I know you've been a

0:47:23.760 --> 0:47:26.480
<v Speaker 2>while for two weeks, but you forget ecosystem.

0:47:27.120 --> 0:47:27.879
<v Speaker 1>Come on, man.

0:47:28.480 --> 0:47:32.279
<v Speaker 2>And I'm really looking forward to that because that was

0:47:32.680 --> 0:47:37.160
<v Speaker 2>something that James Gladstone handled personally for the Rams and

0:47:37.200 --> 0:47:41.120
<v Speaker 2>they've done a great job in that category with the

0:47:41.200 --> 0:47:44.520
<v Speaker 2>undrafteds and so I know a lot of people are

0:47:44.560 --> 0:47:47.680
<v Speaker 2>fired up about what the Jaguars will be able to

0:47:47.680 --> 0:47:49.479
<v Speaker 2>do in the draft, and there's no doubt that that's

0:47:49.520 --> 0:47:51.400
<v Speaker 2>the highest level of talent that you can add to

0:47:51.400 --> 0:47:55.000
<v Speaker 2>your roster, but it doesn't end there. I'm looking forward

0:47:55.040 --> 0:47:58.000
<v Speaker 2>to seeing what they are are also going to do

0:47:58.200 --> 0:48:03.200
<v Speaker 2>after the draft and the undrafted hard Final Four this weekend.

0:48:03.200 --> 0:48:05.920
<v Speaker 2>Do you care who's in the Final four? All the

0:48:06.000 --> 0:48:08.480
<v Speaker 2>number one seats? I heard that Florida is in. They

0:48:08.480 --> 0:48:10.680
<v Speaker 2>are one of the number one seats. Who else is in?

0:48:10.840 --> 0:48:14.000
<v Speaker 1>Duke Duke? Who are the others?

0:48:14.600 --> 0:48:15.960
<v Speaker 2>Cameron crazies? Right?

0:48:16.120 --> 0:48:16.359
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

0:48:16.520 --> 0:48:18.320
<v Speaker 2>Are they still considered the Cameron crazy?

0:48:18.400 --> 0:48:19.120
<v Speaker 1>They are? Yes?

0:48:19.719 --> 0:48:25.200
<v Speaker 2>Oh, Auburn, Auburn Duke, Florida, Houston and who Houston? Houston?

0:48:25.400 --> 0:48:26.520
<v Speaker 2>All right? Who you're rooting for?

0:48:26.680 --> 0:48:27.239
<v Speaker 1>I don't care.

0:48:27.480 --> 0:48:30.279
<v Speaker 2>You don't care. Who do you think is gonna win?

0:48:31.000 --> 0:48:33.839
<v Speaker 1>Duke Duke? Are they that good? They're I think they're

0:48:33.840 --> 0:48:36.280
<v Speaker 1>pretty good. I mean from the two games I watched

0:48:36.280 --> 0:48:37.880
<v Speaker 1>them in the tournament. I don't know. I don't know

0:48:37.880 --> 0:48:38.359
<v Speaker 1>anything else.

0:48:38.400 --> 0:48:40.640
<v Speaker 2>Virginia is not in the Final four. They're not going

0:48:40.719 --> 0:48:43.200
<v Speaker 2>to be there for a while. I don't think it

0:48:43.320 --> 0:48:48.600
<v Speaker 2>might be a minute. Alabama blewet. I'll watch the Final four.

0:48:49.440 --> 0:48:52.399
<v Speaker 2>I haven't watched the basketball game yet, but I'll watch.

0:48:52.480 --> 0:48:55.959
<v Speaker 2>I'll watch the final wins the first game Saturday. No, Yeah,

0:48:56.000 --> 0:49:00.319
<v Speaker 2>Saturday Saturday. What time they're both at on Saturday? One's

0:49:00.280 --> 0:49:04.000
<v Speaker 2>at six o'clock Saturday, Saturday Saturday, and they're back to back.

0:49:04.120 --> 0:49:06.399
<v Speaker 2>Got a concert I'm going to Oh what have we got?

0:49:08.040 --> 0:49:12.640
<v Speaker 1>Is it a competing billy strings? Whoa sweet? Yeah? You

0:49:12.640 --> 0:49:16.960
<v Speaker 1>got an extra one extra ticket for.

0:49:18.920 --> 0:49:22.560
<v Speaker 2>He will come to be a third wheel for that concert.

0:49:22.640 --> 0:49:27.000
<v Speaker 2>Maybe so at the end. Uh huh yeah, yeah, great show.

0:49:27.000 --> 0:49:28.000
<v Speaker 2>I've heard he's fantastic.

0:49:28.200 --> 0:49:28.680
<v Speaker 1>I've seen him.

0:49:29.840 --> 0:49:31.600
<v Speaker 2>I've heard nothing but good things.

0:49:32.200 --> 0:49:33.920
<v Speaker 1>Great to see you again, Great to be so too.

0:49:34.480 --> 0:49:39.880
<v Speaker 2>And uh, next week, you can educate me on basketball

0:49:39.920 --> 0:49:43.440
<v Speaker 2>a little bit. Well, not me, because you're asking a

0:49:43.480 --> 0:49:44.000
<v Speaker 2>wrong guy.

0:49:44.320 --> 0:49:46.080
<v Speaker 1>I need some help. I didn't watch any all year.

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<v Speaker 1>I need some help.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know anything about basketball. I guess next week

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<v Speaker 2>we'll probably talk about the NFL Draft again, well, of course,

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<v Speaker 2>because it's the most important thing for this franchise. And

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<v Speaker 2>I'll give you a breakdown of some of the off

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<v Speaker 2>defensive lineman I think this team needs it.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I like that that's coming up next week. Thanks

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<v Speaker 1>for listening.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks to our entire crew, David, Joe, Brent Reaber, Joe

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<v Speaker 2>Fortunado for Jeff Logiman, I'm JP Shadrick, and this is

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<v Speaker 2>Jaguar's happy hour.