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Speaker 2: JP Shadwick reunited with our good friend Jeff Logo. It

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Speaker 2: good after dude, afternoon, JP. How you been I'm great? Yeah, great,

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Speaker 2: welcome back. Yeah, it feels good to be back. I've

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Speaker 2: been gone for so long. I didn't I didn't recognize

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Speaker 2: you when you walked I know, right, I'm all clean shaven.

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Speaker 2: Now you've got a haircut, you know, fresh as daisy. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I else see you need to know.

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Speaker 1: That's that's it.

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Speaker 2: That's all we need. I had had a nice week off, though,

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Speaker 2: I guess it was kind of all right, Hey, you're

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Speaker 2: on health and Wellness day. Mental, Yeah, okay, physical, mental,

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Speaker 2: all the above. I need a lot of those mental

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Speaker 2: health days, rack them up, uh plenty to get to

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Speaker 2: of course, we'll hear from James Gladstone GM of the Jaguars.

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Speaker 2: Caught up with John believe you haven't even mentioned the

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Speaker 2: draft yet.

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Speaker 1: I just I.

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Speaker 2: Literally just said three weeks to the NFL, right, I know,

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Speaker 2: but that's attention to the open. But you just threw it,

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Speaker 2: like rushed it aside, like it's not even a main story,

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Speaker 2: like the league meetings down in what was it, Palm

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Speaker 2: Beach was a bigger story than the draft that's coming

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Speaker 2: up in Green Bay because it.

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Speaker 1: Just happened, and there's quotes out of it, and.

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Speaker 2: I know, but it was it's a lot of fluff. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: And we went through the some of the rules change

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Speaker 2: potential rule changes a couple of weeks ago, and uh,

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Speaker 2: and I was kind of chuckling when when some of

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Speaker 2: the announcements were made of some of these changes that happened.

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Speaker 2: But I mean, at the end of the day, I mean,

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Speaker 2: right now, the lifeblood of every franchise is the draft.

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Speaker 2: The draft talk should be paramount every single day, Like

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Speaker 2: number won't care if there's a league owners meeting tomorrow. Again,

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Speaker 2: what about Okay, well what about next week? Off season program?

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Speaker 2: First year head coach, new staff, establishing the culture. I mean,

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Speaker 2: it's raizing the floor of the team, the whole deal.

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Speaker 2: I mean, the ecosystem a win. Are they going to

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Speaker 2: win games next week?

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Speaker 1: Who knows?

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Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, if it does go well, that's

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Speaker 2: not a first impressions. Look report, it's gonna make headlines

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Speaker 2: because it's a big deal.

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Speaker 1: I get it.

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Speaker 2: You know, the first time the players get to be

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Speaker 2: with the coaches, it's awesome, it's great. But the reality is,

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Speaker 2: you want to get this team better, get better players,

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Speaker 2: and what's going to happen in a couple of weeks

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Speaker 2: in Green Bay That's what matters most. James Gladstone and

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Speaker 2: his guys and the coaching staff, they need to be

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Speaker 2: on point that moment happens at Green Bay and they're

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Speaker 2: on the phone and they're on the clock. That's where

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Speaker 2: this team gets better right then and there. That's where

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Speaker 2: they've got to be on time. And I'm looking forward

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Speaker 2: to it. I mean I've been like, how for I mean, yeah,

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Speaker 2: you must sounds like you are. Well, I'm looking forward

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Speaker 2: to it because look, this organization has what's the right word.

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Speaker 1: I can think of a lot of words, but.

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Speaker 2: It has fallen short in April many times, many times,

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Speaker 2: and there's been many a April's where after the draft happened,

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Speaker 2: you're like, yeah, that was a good draft, and then

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Speaker 2: I'll say that though, well, I mean everybody does. You're right,

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Speaker 2: everybody does. But it matters when year one and year

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Speaker 2: two and year three are completed, and then you go, oh,

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Speaker 2: how did we do? I mean, I'll never forget you

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Speaker 2: go back, you know, to many Jaguar drafts and you

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Speaker 2: felt good about it. But at the conclusion of year three,

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Speaker 2: year three you were like, one.

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Speaker 1: Very good, We're drafted again to take the place of

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Speaker 1: this guy we drafted.

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Speaker 2: Well, no, then they go into free agency in the

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Speaker 2: next couple of years and spend a bunch of money

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Speaker 2: because they weren't drafting very well, well, here's your chance.

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Speaker 2: This is your chance to right the ship and to

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Speaker 2: get it right as an organanization, and this April draft

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Speaker 2: is where it has to start. James Gladstone's got to

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Speaker 2: be on point. It reminds me a lot of like

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Speaker 2: college football recruiting. Never in the history of college football

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Speaker 2: has there been a bad recruiting class. Just ask the

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Speaker 2: school who did it. Of course, I mean they're all geniuses.

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Speaker 2: But I mean it's look, it's uh, it's all part

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Speaker 2: the positivity. And look, that's the great thing about the

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Speaker 2: off seasons. I mean, if everybody's undefeated and hope spring's eternal.

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Speaker 2: But I mean you've got to have the Jimmy's and

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Speaker 2: the Johosh Okay, well let's you know for the simple Well,

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Speaker 2: we'll push Lei'll talk about any draft stuff at all.

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Speaker 1: I think we're gonna talk about it right now.

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Speaker 2: We're going to push Leam Cohen's comments that you don't

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Speaker 2: care about apparently from this watched the whole interview. Well good,

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Speaker 2: I mean, but some people listening might not have heard

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Speaker 2: some of this, so we're going to have some of

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Speaker 2: this a little bit later. By the way, season program,

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Speaker 2: I will say this, I do enjoy listening to both

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Speaker 2: Liam Cohen and and Gladstone. I think, you know, because

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Speaker 2: there's been a lot made about how good of a

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Speaker 2: communicator James Gladstone is, but Liam Cohen is an excellent

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Speaker 2: communicator as well. I enjoy listening to what he has

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Speaker 2: to say. And uh, and by the way, when's the

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Speaker 2: first episode of The Hunt coming out today? I've been

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Speaker 2: I've gotten all these teasers today today tonight, seven o'clock awesome. Yeah, wait,

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Speaker 2: don't have a teaser coming up on this show. It'll

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Speaker 2: be because I've been seeing all these teasers on Jaguars

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Speaker 2: and I'm just sitting there going, I can't When is

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Speaker 2: the first episode coming out?

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Speaker 1: Seven o'clock Jaguars YouTube tonight. Can't wait.

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Speaker 2: I'll be watching it tonight and unprecedented access outstanding. It

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Speaker 2: should be great. We'll have a teaser of that coming up.

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Speaker 2: The Jaguars have the number five pick in the NFL draft.

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Speaker 2: For now, forget you got some inte. No, I have

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Speaker 2: no insight whatsoever. But I'm a big believer. I know

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Speaker 2: that James Gladstone said that he's a big believer in

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Speaker 2: acquiring more draft capital and always having as much draft

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Speaker 2: capital as you possibly can. They've got now, just to

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Speaker 2: preface this, they do have the most draft picks this

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Speaker 1: Of any team in the league.

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Speaker 2: Great, great, let's get more, get some more, just more,

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Speaker 2: get some more. If there's a way that you can

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Speaker 2: trade back from five, I would love to see this

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Speaker 2: team trade back from five.

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Speaker 1: How far down are you going?

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Speaker 2: I'll go down in the teams. I'm okay with that.

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Speaker 1: You still need a player that can co produce now,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you can get that, you can get that. You

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Speaker 2: can absolutely get that if you go down into the teams.

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Speaker 2: But I mean, here, here's here's why I really think

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Speaker 2: that this draft. It has a couple of quarterbacks and

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Speaker 2: a couple I mean elite players at the top, and

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Speaker 2: then those quarterbacks elite players. No, we're not, They're just quarterbacks,

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Speaker 2: all right, you know. Caleb Williams was an elite quarterback prospect.

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Speaker 2: that a lot of teams need quarterbacks. Now, cam Ward

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Speaker 2: the total body of work is not anywhere near Caleb

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Speaker 2: I think there's a lot of guys that are very

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Speaker 2: if those four are gone, do you try to trade back.

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Speaker 2: I would like to see them to try to trade back.

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Speaker 2: Is there somebody after that though, that a team would

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Speaker 2: the quarterback is always something that allows people to be

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Speaker 2: a willing trade possibility. The offensive line prospects, there's some

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Speaker 1: I think you've got.

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Speaker 2: If you were back into the teams, or even move

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Speaker 2: I think the big guys in this draft. It's a

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Speaker 2: Mason Graham like him, like him solid, A lot.

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Speaker 1: Of people like him. He's mocked everywhere.

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Speaker 2: Great hands, I mean, and that's the guy that you've

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Speaker 2: seen mocked with the Jaguars another place. And I like him.

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Speaker 2: The only thing I think he's got some limitations his length.

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Speaker 2: He's done have great length. Not a great pass rusher,

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Speaker 2: he's in he is He in the category of Abdul Carter,

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Speaker 2: Travis Hunter, Oh no, if he if he was if

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Speaker 2: he picked in the top four, I don't think he is,

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Speaker 2: you know, but I like him, don't.

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Speaker 1: Get me wrong. But if you trade back and pick him.

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Speaker 2: Up, yeah, well if you like him, I don't think

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Speaker 2: you'd get him by trading back. I think it's an interest.

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Speaker 2: It's an interesting question, and I would love to know

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Speaker 2: Mason Graham very high floor. But I think the question

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Speaker 2: because when you're in that top five, you're looking for

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Speaker 2: intangibly rich, great football players right right to use James's term,

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Speaker 2: he's a great football player and tangible's off the chart.

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Speaker 2: Is he a game changer? I think that's a question

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Speaker 2: that when you're drafting in the top five, you're looking

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Speaker 2: for somebody that's a game changer. And I'm not saying

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Speaker 2: he in that Travis Hunter, Abdul Carter category a game changer?

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Speaker 2: How about Tyler Warren? Penn State tight end jack of

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Speaker 2: all trades does a million things well, but he's a

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Speaker 2: loud the Jaguars to fall back a couple of spots

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Speaker 2: and them because maybe you're playing, you're planting the seed.

435
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Speaker 2: You're part of the system. I like the idea of

436
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Speaker 2: getting more picks. I've always been a big fan of

437
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Speaker 2: accumulating picks because the reality is is that the draft

438
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Speaker 2: it is a numbers game. Your accuracy of making the

439
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Speaker 2: right pick is not great. So the more picks you have,

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Speaker 2: the better chance you have of making a right pick.

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Speaker 1: But if just a guy up there you really want

442
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Speaker 1: just get it.

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Speaker 2: Who would you jp if you had your choice, you

444
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Speaker 2: were picking number one.

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Speaker 1: Overall, I'm going Travis Hunter. Travis Hunter. I think he's

446
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Speaker 1: that dynamic.

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Speaker 2: Where would you play him?

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Speaker 1: I mean for this team.

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Speaker 2: We've talked about this before and I haven't gotten your

450
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Speaker 2: thoughts on it. So and I'm going both ways on it,

451
00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:24,280
Speaker 2: because you could use cornerback play on this team right

452
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Speaker 2: in a number of different ways, even though with the

453
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Speaker 2: free agent you signed and some things you have. I mean,

454
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Speaker 2: if you put that guy out on one side and

455
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Speaker 2: call that a day, I think, or you put him

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Speaker 2: at receiver full time and then bring him in in

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Speaker 2: a certain.

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Speaker 1: Packages on defense, I think you can do it both ways. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you could.

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Speaker 2: But the problem is if he gets hurt, you lose

461
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Speaker 2: two players. Correct, You're losing two positions, Yeah, which is

462
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Speaker 2: not good. So that's the scary part of what this is.

463
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Speaker 2: But when he's out there, ball skills, speed, dynamic, got

464
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Speaker 2: his head on his shoulders. I mean, he's got everything

465
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Speaker 2: you want, so I would and if it were me,

466
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Speaker 2: and it's just this is me, it's hard to.

467
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Speaker 1: Pass that up.

468
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Speaker 2: And you're playing them on defense for the most part,

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Speaker 2: maybe say we'll see you know, I don't know. It's great,

470
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Speaker 2: it's a great enough. It's a great debate. You know,

471
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Speaker 2: there's how much do you let him drive it and

472
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Speaker 2: be like, I want to do everything. I don't know

473
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Speaker 2: about that. An NFL game typically consists about sixty five

474
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Speaker 2: plays for each team, right, offensively, right, So you can't

475
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Speaker 2: expect him to play, you know, one hundred and twenty

476
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Speaker 2: to one hundred and thirty snaps a game.

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Speaker 1: So he did the Colorado more than that more plays.

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Speaker 2: I don't think college football has that many snaps, do

479
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Speaker 2: they They well, they used to that a whole lot more,

480
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Speaker 2: and so they changed the clock rule a couple of

481
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Speaker 2: years ago. The clock runs on and maybe that is

482
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Speaker 2: the case. But I mean, I just can't imagine a

483
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Speaker 2: player with standing one hundred and thirty snaps a game.

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Speaker 2: I just can't see that. And on top of that,

485
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Speaker 2: you're what what does that do to the longevity of

486
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Speaker 2: the player if he's taking that number of snaps? All

487
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Speaker 2: a great argument it's more physical in the NFL and

488
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Speaker 2: theory in the NFL, right, yes, it is. The theory

489
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Speaker 2: it is. It's a tough one. It's because you want

490
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Speaker 2: your best guy out there. Yeah, he's he's a.

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Speaker 1: He's a great player.

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Speaker 2: And it's amazing to me that you literally that there

493
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Speaker 2: is a debate about a player. I mean, because look

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Speaker 2: all the great two way players that have been in

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Speaker 2: the bo Jackson, you know, played offense. Uh well, but

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Speaker 2: I mean dual sport guy, right, Dion sand you know,

497
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Speaker 2: and which one was he gonna do? Right, Okay, Dion Sanders, Okay, returner,

498
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Speaker 2: defensive back. Little packages that he had on offense, Okay,

499
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Speaker 2: they were great. But there I don't think there's ever

500
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Speaker 2: been You probably got to go way back, way way

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Speaker 2: back to find somebody that had a legitimate it was

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Speaker 2: a legitimate two way football player offense and defense. I mean,

503
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Speaker 2: just nobody's ever really done that in modern day era.

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Speaker 1: It's tough.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I mean you're gonna go back to like

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Speaker 2: Chuck Bignerik probably right, right. I mean, Charles Woodson was

507
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:42,040
Speaker 2: special teams, but he was a defense you know, But

508
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Speaker 2: there was nobody that was true there. Well, there hasn't

509
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Speaker 2: been anybody in the modern era of football the Super

510
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Speaker 2: Bowl receiver. Yeah, but it was limited and it was later,

511
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Speaker 2: it was very limited. But there's nobody been in the

512
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Speaker 2: I don't think in the Super Bowl era through been

513
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Speaker 2: been both ways, starting on defense, starting on offense. They've

514
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Speaker 2: kept expanding the rosters and the whole thing. Yeah, interesting, interesting,

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Speaker 2: Let's come back. I prom but I like your I

516
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Speaker 2: like your pick. I mean, he's he is special, and

517
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:18,560
Speaker 2: he loves ball, loves ball, and he's got some of

518
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Speaker 2: the best ball skills on the defensive side or the

519
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 2: offensive side, some of the best ball skills I've ever

520
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Speaker 2: seen of anybody. Wide receiver, defensive back, doesn't matter.

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Speaker 1: And stakes can break on it the whole season game.

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Speaker 1: Let's come back.

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Speaker 2: I promise we're gonna hear from Liam Cohen. Okay, I'm

524
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Speaker 2: gonna make it a point to run these Liam Cohen

525
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Speaker 2: clips when we come back, because that's what you want

526
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Speaker 2: to hear. You want to hear about the off season

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Speaker 2: program next week, I.

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Speaker 1: Want to hear.

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Speaker 2: I want to hear this football team is gonna win,

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Speaker 2: all right. We want to hear how this team is

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Speaker 2: going to organize and execute. Well, maybe what an answer

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Speaker 2: We'll come Okay, you'll hear that coming up the new

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Speaker 2: Happy Hour energy.

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Speaker 4: You know, that's the first thing when we're really trying

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Speaker 4: to place to just feel guys like, this is good stuff.

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Speaker 1: It's great to be back.

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Speaker 4: We're doing football.

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Speaker 2: Guys.

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Speaker 4: How many of us get to do this. We get

544
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Speaker 4: an opportunity to do this every single day. There's so

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Speaker 4: many that don't. And so how are we going to

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Speaker 4: approach this thing? I think they'll walk into that kind

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Speaker 4: of feeling and you know.

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Speaker 1: We'll meet.

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Speaker 4: We'll just do meetings obviously throughout phase one introducing our

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Speaker 4: systems while we at the same time start to introduce

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Speaker 4: our culture, the way that we're going to be, the

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Speaker 4: way the we're going to talk to each other, the

553
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Speaker 4: way that we're going to communicate with each other, how

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Speaker 4: we're gonna treat one another. That'll go hand in hand

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Speaker 4: with the systems.

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Speaker 2: Is Liam Cohen at the ANC Coaches Breakfast at the

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Speaker 2: NFL Annual Meeting earlier this week down in Palm Beach

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Speaker 2: at the Breakers and welcome back, it is Jaguars Happy Hour.

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Speaker 2: The twenty twenty five season at Daily's Place continues in May,

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Speaker 2: Teddy Swims, May Temp tem Payne, May thirty, First, plenty more.

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Speaker 2: information as well throughout the spring and summer.

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Speaker 1: The question to Liam Cohen there JP.

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Speaker 2: Shadwick, Jeff Logwan on Jaguars Happy Hour, by the way,

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Speaker 2: was a what do players expect next week when they

567
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Speaker 2: come back in the building for the first time, maybe

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Speaker 2: the first time for the off season program. It's the

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Speaker 2: first opportunity for Cohen and the coaching staff and the

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Speaker 2: strength and conditioning staff who will have them on the

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Speaker 2: field to really get in front of these guys.

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Speaker 1: So that's the answer.

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Speaker 2: How how important is this first impression for Liam Cohen

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Speaker 2: and the staff. Well, I think it's important. But then

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Speaker 2: you know the other thing too that you just brought

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Speaker 2: up about the strength and conditioning staff, which, oh, by

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Speaker 2: the way, that's new. They're new too, That is new.

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Speaker 2: So there's a lot of new when the players walk

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Speaker 2: into the building and uh, which can be a great thing.

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Speaker 2: And part of that newness is also going to be

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Speaker 2: that everybody is starting from ground zero. Everybody has an opportunity,

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Speaker 2: you know, making a strong first impression and building relationships

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Speaker 2: as everybody's moving forward, and it's it's incredibly important that

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Speaker 2: the culture begins to be established that very first moment,

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Speaker 2: and anything less than the acceptable culture ways are not okay.

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Speaker 2: And so I think it's going to be a very

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Speaker 2: important day. But it's something that has to be built

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Speaker 2: every day. It's not something that Okay, hey guys, here's

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Speaker 2: how we're gonna be. All right, let's all march and

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Speaker 2: we're good.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 2: It's a daily process that has to continue to be reinforced.

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Speaker 1: And that's for years.

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Speaker 2: That's not just one year, and a work ethic and

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Speaker 2: a level of expectation of look, this is where we

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Speaker 2: are gonna be, okay, anything less is unacceptable. I mean,

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Speaker 2: those are the things that need to be established from

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Speaker 2: the very early on days and the moments that you have.

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Speaker 2: But again, it has to be consistently and reoccurring positively

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Speaker 2: enforced all the time. It's not a sum of the

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Speaker 2: time thing. It's an all the time thing. By the way,

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Speaker 2: the off season program yes begins officially April eighth. The

603
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Speaker 2: league announced all the off season dates officially for every

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Speaker 2: team Earlier today. So the first day for the jag

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Speaker 2: is April eighth. They it can begin April seventh, but

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Speaker 2: the Jaguars will be in April eighth. Voluntary mini camp,

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Speaker 2: which I know you love those in the off season

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Speaker 2: logs your your history of voluntary camps April twenty first

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Speaker 2: through twenty.

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Speaker 1: Three, don't.

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Speaker 2: I don't mind them.

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Speaker 1: I know, well, I'm going back to your history as

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Speaker 1: a player.

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Speaker 2: Well, that wasn't That was not a voluntary mini.

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Speaker 1: Camp that I was not at that voluntary.

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Speaker 2: That was no, it was a voluntary early report date

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Speaker 2: to training camp.

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Speaker 1: That's what we had.

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Speaker 2: That's what I'm talking about, after we had twenty voluntary

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Speaker 2: days already in the off season. It was voluntary though.

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Speaker 1: Anyway. NFL Draft April twenty fourth through twenty six.

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Speaker 2: Phase two April twenty eighth for the Jaguars, OTAs in May,

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Speaker 2: a number of days there, that's Phase number three, and

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Speaker 2: then mandatory mini camp in June June ten, eleven, and twelve.

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Speaker 2: It'll be interesting to see kind of what you know

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Speaker 2: you've seen in the past to where you have all

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Speaker 2: of these voluntary days in the off season and then

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Speaker 2: all of a sudden you get to the mini camp

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Speaker 2: and you're like hey, and all of a sudden they

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Speaker 2: don't have it. Well, that's what happened with Doug Peterson,

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Speaker 2: right if he had good attendance throughout the off season,

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Speaker 2: then he would just go ahead and bang the mandatory one,

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Speaker 2: or let the only the rookies have to come, or

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Speaker 2: whatever veterance come. I was never a fan of canceling

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Speaker 2: the mini camp because I understand what Doug's kind of

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Speaker 2: goal was, is that to allow the players to have

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Speaker 2: a mental and physical break so that they're fresh when

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Speaker 2: they come back. But there's ways to keep the players

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Speaker 2: in a fresh way throughout the whole off season. There's

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Speaker 2: times that you can give them breaks or time off,

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Speaker 2: But if you're giving them the time off at the

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Speaker 2: mandatory mini camp, that's the most allowable or the fewest

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Speaker 2: restricts on what you can and can't do in all

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Speaker 2: of the off season. Yes, so if you're gonna if

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Speaker 2: you're gonna bypass something or to not do something, don't

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Speaker 2: make it the one that has the most value of

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Speaker 2: all of the off season activity. And I'm gonna say

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Speaker 2: something here, I might get in hot water with you

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Speaker 2: on this. It's three days for goodness, sake, right, It's

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Speaker 2: three days.

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Speaker 1: How could that be such an issue. It's three days,

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Speaker 1: go work for three days.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I'm all for it, thank you. Okay, now

654
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:36,319
Speaker 2: I'm all for it. I didn't know if other side.

655
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:37,920
Speaker 2: My point is that if you want to give the

656
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:40,240
Speaker 2: players some time off, don't make it the mini camp.

657
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:42,239
Speaker 1: They got five weeks off coming up.

658
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:47,840
Speaker 2: Right after the day after exactly five weeks, totally understand.

659
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:48,920
Speaker 1: Do the three days.

660
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 2: And for some teams, like the teams that were in

661
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 2: the playoffs and had the season extended, and you know,

662
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 2: they're not a time off they had has been shorter,

663
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:02,880
Speaker 2: Well that's not the case here. Okay, So the players

664
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 2: should be kind of fresh.

665
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 1: And ready to go.

666
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:06,839
Speaker 2: But if you need to give them a little bit

667
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:08,959
Speaker 2: of a break, don't take it out of that mini camp.

668
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:09,440
Speaker 1: Take it.

669
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 2: Take it out of like one of the other phase

670
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:15,799
Speaker 2: days that have more restrictions about what you can and

671
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 2: can't do. You want to be able to do as

672
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 2: much as you possibly can, which is at that stage

673
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:24,880
Speaker 2: of the off season, which is where the many mandatory

674
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:29,759
Speaker 2: mini camp falls. Phrases you're not allowed to have like

675
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:34,440
Speaker 2: one on ones, you're not allowed to have, you're allowed

676
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:36,920
Speaker 2: to have all of that in the mini camp, So

677
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:41,240
Speaker 2: don't take don't take that away faste, you know, ot

678
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:44,360
Speaker 2: A three four, Okay, yeah, take a day or whatever. Correct,

679
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 2: But hey, they could take them anyway. They're voluntary up

680
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:49,959
Speaker 2: until the mandatory mini camp.

681
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 1: Correct. I'm just telling you in theory they can.

682
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know, so you need to day take

683
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 2: the day and take the whole thing. Don't come all

684
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:00,880
Speaker 2: and look if there's guys that have a way of

685
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:05,479
Speaker 2: preparing and it suits them best. On me, Josh Allen

686
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:08,759
Speaker 2: a couple of years ago wasn't here at all in

687
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 2: the off season stuff right, and then came back for

688
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:14,920
Speaker 2: the mandatory mini camp had his best year as a

689
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 2: pro by far? Is that necessarily the best course of

690
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:21,239
Speaker 2: action though with a new staff, No, you need you

691
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 2: need to be here. That's the other side of the argument,

692
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 2: just saying play a handful of guys playing defense is

693
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:32,239
Speaker 2: not rocket science. I mean, so it's not like you

694
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 2: need to be here for all of it. But I

695
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:38,880
Speaker 2: would like to see Josh here for as much as possible.

696
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 2: But if he's not here for certain parts of it, okay,

697
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:44,799
Speaker 2: that's fine. If it works for him, it works for him.

698
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:45,439
Speaker 1: I'm gonna guess.

699
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 2: So there's probably only a handful of players that could well,

700
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 2: they can all get away with it because of the CBA. Correct,

701
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 2: But there's probably a certain level of player on this team,

702
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 2: and probably not as deep as you think that could

703
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 2: truly be.

704
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:02,719
Speaker 1: Okay, I don't know.

705
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 2: Well, when I'm not speaking as a team and that's

706
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 2: that's voluntary, I get it. The one thing that that

707
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:10,960
Speaker 2: is definitely the case, there's a few untouchables, that's all

708
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 2: I'm saying. Yeah, I mean, there are guys that are

709
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:17,399
Speaker 2: untouchable from a contract standpoint, and that's a fact. But

710
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 2: the one thing that is definitely true in this case

711
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 2: is that when you have a whole new regime, Okay,

712
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 2: what you've done in the past or any you know,

713
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:32,440
Speaker 2: if JP, let's say you were a draft pick a

714
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:34,320
Speaker 2: couple of years ago, a high one, right, I was

715
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 2: a high draft. Hey, look, it really doesn't matter anymore.

716
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 2: You know, you've got a new regime. There's uh, you know,

717
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:44,320
Speaker 2: the general manager that may have drafted you is gone.

718
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 2: So the new general manager is not going to look

719
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:49,760
Speaker 2: good or bad if he keeps you or he doesn't

720
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 2: keep you. You know, there's veteran guys it doesn't matter.

721
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:55,839
Speaker 2: It doesn't it's not going to make the new general

722
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:58,359
Speaker 2: manage look good or bad if he keeps you or

723
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:01,319
Speaker 2: he doesn't keep you where they decide that you're not

724
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 2: a part of the program, or you are a part

725
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 2: of the program. You know. So everybody is kind of

726
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 2: starting at ground zero from that standpoint. But then again,

727
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 2: there are contracts that make certain guys untouchable part of

728
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:20,440
Speaker 2: the business professional football. But everybody has a clean slate.

729
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 2: Nobody has any built up equity, so to speak, even

730
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:29,320
Speaker 2: though some guys do just from an experience and play standpoint,

731
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 2: but a lot of guys don't have any of that equity.

732
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 1: Built up at all. So we'll see. I bet attendants

733
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:38,880
Speaker 1: will be pretty high in this offseason program, as.

734
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:40,360
Speaker 2: It should be. I mean, look, this is a great

735
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 2: place to live. And here's the other thing that I've

736
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:46,360
Speaker 2: made this point for a number of years. If you

737
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:48,760
Speaker 2: are out and training on your own and you get hurt,

738
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 2: you're on your own non football NFI list baby, Okay,

739
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:58,240
Speaker 2: and you know what that means. You don't get paid. Okay.

740
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 2: If you get hurt while you're working under the umbrella

741
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:05,239
Speaker 2: of the team, Okay, then that's in the line of

742
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:09,879
Speaker 2: duty injury. Where would you rather work out somewhere where

743
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:13,799
Speaker 2: there is no way of you getting paid if you

744
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:17,479
Speaker 2: got hurt, or if you work out here, then you're

745
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:20,879
Speaker 2: gonna get paid because you were in the facility working out.

746
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:22,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, it seems like an easy answer.

747
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:25,319
Speaker 2: And I can tell you this just I mean from

748
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:31,240
Speaker 2: my experience, working out with your teammates is great because

749
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:35,840
Speaker 2: it's competitive. You can help raise the level of everything

750
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:37,719
Speaker 2: you do in the off season. When you're working out

751
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:42,520
Speaker 2: with your teammates, you build relationships and with a lot

752
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:44,279
Speaker 2: of new faces that are going to be coming in,

753
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 2: this is a chance for them to get to know everybody.

754
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:49,000
Speaker 2: I mean, speaking of working out away from the building,

755
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:51,080
Speaker 2: you don't want to do one day? What what are

756
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 2: those darkness retreats? Aaron Rodgers did? That sounds fun? That

757
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:58,440
Speaker 2: guy that sounds like an interesting Rogers playing for the

758
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:00,759
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh Steelers just as work for me.

759
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:03,680
Speaker 1: We'll see. They haven't announced anything.

760
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 2: Yet, I know, but it's going that way right, trending

761
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:09,759
Speaker 2: that direction. Can you picture Aaron Rodgers in these in

762
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:14,839
Speaker 2: his darkness retreats fitting in with the Pittsburgh Steelers. It's

763
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 2: a it's a different place.

764
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 1: I don't know. Man, let's come back in a moment.

765
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:24,800
Speaker 1: We will tease The Hunt. It is back tonight, can't wait.

766
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:30,600
Speaker 2: I love that show. I think it's every NFL team

767
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 2: should do something like this, and some of them try. Yeah,

768
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:38,239
Speaker 2: not to this extent, not as not like the Jaguars.

769
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:44,359
Speaker 2: The Hunt is outstanding must watch football viewing entertainment. We're

770
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:46,600
Speaker 2: on tens, n x l a M, Jaguars dot com,

771
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:47,800
Speaker 2: and Jaguars YouTube.

772
00:41:47,880 --> 00:42:00,120
Speaker 1: It's Jaguars Happy Hour. That one's pleasure.

773
00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:26,960
Speaker 2: Sure, Season six, episode one. All right, let's go there.

774
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:27,719
Speaker 1: You have it.

775
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:33,920
Speaker 2: The Hunt back tonight, seven o'clock on Jaguars YouTube, featuring

776
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:40,560
Speaker 2: unprecedented access into the leadership changes for the Jacksonville Jaguars.

777
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 2: I'm told it's thirty six minutes long.

778
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:46,439
Speaker 1: One nice, very good.

779
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 2: That's almost like hopcorn in a cold wooden territory. That's

780
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:52,360
Speaker 2: enough time to do both. Oh yeah, I'll be uh.

781
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:56,560
Speaker 2: I'll have a cold drink and watch it tonight. I

782
00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:59,400
Speaker 2: don't know about popcorn. No, not a popcorn.

783
00:42:59,400 --> 00:42:59,440
Speaker 3: No.

784
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:01,800
Speaker 2: I like pop but I like popcorn movies.

785
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:03,759
Speaker 1: I like them. This is damn. I mean, they might

786
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:05,319
Speaker 1: as well get to sun Dance with this thing. That's

787
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 1: how long this thing is. And they've done a great

788
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:08,799
Speaker 1: job with it. They really have.

789
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 2: I mean the whole crew, all the way top to bottom,

790
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 2: from kavanav of course to the canvas. Everet Sullivan kind

791
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:18,400
Speaker 2: of leads the charge on this side of things, and

792
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 2: I mean we can go through the list here, but

793
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:23,920
Speaker 2: Trent Padilla and Gabby Dalton have been working their tails

794
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:27,440
Speaker 2: off over there. Andrew Curry ho the access given by

795
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 2: the football side. I mean, you'll see it tonight. I've

796
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:33,440
Speaker 2: seen bits and pieces logs. The whole thing's going to

797
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 2: be fantas Yeah, looking forward to that. I will me

798
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:39,800
Speaker 2: and the wife, Terra, we will definitely be watching that tonight.

799
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:43,440
Speaker 1: Is that her name. I'm kidding, Yes, you know very well.

800
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:46,319
Speaker 2: I know very well. Of course, we will definitely watch

801
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 2: that tonight. And you know, we always try to find

802
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 2: something to watch. But I can tell you this that

803
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:58,680
Speaker 2: is on my list, like top five is when that

804
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:02,440
Speaker 2: stuff comes out, you know, and I know all the people.

805
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:04,680
Speaker 1: I mean, it's i mean it's almost like we work here.

806
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:09,239
Speaker 2: It's amazing, well imagine that, but it's still got I

807
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:13,239
Speaker 2: mean the access that you get in the entertainment that

808
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:17,960
Speaker 2: you get from it I think is outstanding and I

809
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:20,920
Speaker 2: would recommend anybody that has not watched The Hunt that

810
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 2: do not miss this year's The Hunt series because it

811
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 2: is must watch TV if you're a football fan, if

812
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:34,800
Speaker 2: you're looking to be entertained. This is great stuff.

813
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:38,960
Speaker 1: Looking forward to seven o'clock Eastern tonight. Jaguars YouTube. They'll

814
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:39,879
Speaker 1: stream it live there.

815
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:41,879
Speaker 2: It will be on the Jaguars website at some point

816
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:44,879
Speaker 2: very soon as well, so check that out. Jaguars Happy

817
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:48,400
Speaker 2: Hour presented by Dream Pinders Homes, official homebuilder of the

818
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:53,279
Speaker 2: Jacksonville Jaguars off season program. Next week, veterans will be

819
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:57,280
Speaker 2: in first impressions for the head coach and the strength

820
00:44:57,280 --> 00:45:01,239
Speaker 2: and conditioning staff. And then we're closing it on the

821
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:04,719
Speaker 2: NFL Draft three weeks away and the draft party this

822
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:07,879
Speaker 2: year at Lemon Bar. Logs at the Lemon Bar.

823
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:10,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right, that's where we'll be.

824
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 2: No, we're going to be here, Oh, but the party

825
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:16,360
Speaker 2: will be out. I don't want to be where the party.

826
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 2: I mean, maybe you could go out there and report back.

827
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 2: Can I be like a remote? I'm sure that would

828
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 2: go very well for you. Yeah, that'd be great. I'm

829
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 2: looking forward to the draft. I've been watching film for

830
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 2: the last couple of weeks, and I think it's going

831
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:36,279
Speaker 2: to be a very interesting draft. And when I when

832
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:38,200
Speaker 2: I said this earlier, there was kind of a reason

833
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:39,480
Speaker 2: why I said that I would love to see the

834
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:43,920
Speaker 2: Jaguars trade down just because they can accumulate some more picks.

835
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 2: But then also there's a lot of players that are

836
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:49,880
Speaker 2: really close together. How do you get that after you

837
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:53,400
Speaker 2: get past that elite group right at the top, and

838
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 2: more picks means better chance of hitting. And you've got

839
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:01,960
Speaker 2: a great, great group of guys that are going to

840
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 2: be available in that eight to fifteen, sixteen seventeen. The

841
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:11,759
Speaker 2: grades are they're going to be so close together that

842
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:14,440
Speaker 2: you can get great value there. But you just you know,

843
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 2: again said this before, but you got to be willing

844
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:20,920
Speaker 2: to find somebody that's wanting to trade up.

845
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 1: To do that. It takes two to tango.

846
00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:25,879
Speaker 2: There's more people that are willing to trade back than

847
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:29,160
Speaker 2: are willing to trade up. I think that's yeah. You

848
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:32,080
Speaker 2: always talk about we always hear about, oh, trade, this

849
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:35,120
Speaker 2: could be a trade machine. Here we go, trade, trade, trade,

850
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:38,080
Speaker 2: and then draft night rarely does something happen.

851
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:38,759
Speaker 1: Yeah.

852
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:41,919
Speaker 2: I mean, look, sometimes I think in the last couple

853
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:44,399
Speaker 2: of years the frequency of trades though have gone up.

854
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:48,640
Speaker 2: So it was the last year and we've never been

855
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:51,480
Speaker 2: around the mindset of James Gladstone and Liam Comb, so

856
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:54,279
Speaker 2: we don't know kind of what their mo is. I mean,

857
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:56,480
Speaker 2: they've got an opportunity to create their own m O.

858
00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:58,040
Speaker 1: Correct, we'll see.

859
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:00,319
Speaker 2: I mean, we know we can follow the track record

860
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:02,759
Speaker 2: in l A a little bit of what they did there,

861
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:06,600
Speaker 2: but I mean he was more in the scouting side

862
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:08,839
Speaker 2: of the draft than well. And I think the other

863
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:13,319
Speaker 2: thing too, that is incredibly important. Every team has a

864
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:16,840
Speaker 2: great opportunity after the draft to still continue to add

865
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:20,600
Speaker 2: talent to the I was trying to think of the environment.

866
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:23,759
Speaker 2: Is that what the ecosystem? I know you've been a

867
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:26,480
Speaker 2: while for two weeks, but you forget ecosystem.

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Speaker 1: Come on, man.

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Speaker 2: And I'm really looking forward to that because that was

870
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:37,160
Speaker 2: something that James Gladstone handled personally for the Rams and

871
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:41,120
Speaker 2: they've done a great job in that category with the

872
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 2: undrafteds and so I know a lot of people are

873
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:47,680
Speaker 2: fired up about what the Jaguars will be able to

874
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:49,479
Speaker 2: do in the draft, and there's no doubt that that's

875
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:51,400
Speaker 2: the highest level of talent that you can add to

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00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:55,000
Speaker 2: your roster, but it doesn't end there. I'm looking forward

877
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 2: to seeing what they are are also going to do

878
00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 2: after the draft and the undrafted hard Final Four this weekend.

879
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:05,920
Speaker 2: Do you care who's in the Final four? All the

880
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:08,480
Speaker 2: number one seats? I heard that Florida is in. They

881
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:10,680
Speaker 2: are one of the number one seats. Who else is in?

882
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 1: Duke Duke? Who are the others?

883
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:15,960
Speaker 2: Cameron crazies? Right?

884
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:16,359
Speaker 1: Yeah?

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00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:18,320
Speaker 2: Are they still considered the Cameron crazy?

886
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:19,120
Speaker 1: They are? Yes?

887
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:25,200
Speaker 2: Oh, Auburn, Auburn Duke, Florida, Houston and who Houston? Houston?

888
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:26,520
Speaker 2: All right? Who you're rooting for?

889
00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:27,239
Speaker 1: I don't care.

890
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:30,279
Speaker 2: You don't care. Who do you think is gonna win?

891
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:33,839
Speaker 1: Duke Duke? Are they that good? They're I think they're

892
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:36,280
Speaker 1: pretty good. I mean from the two games I watched

893
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:37,880
Speaker 1: them in the tournament. I don't know. I don't know

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Speaker 1: anything else.

895
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Speaker 2: Virginia is not in the Final four. They're not going

896
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:43,200
Speaker 2: to be there for a while. I don't think it

897
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:48,600
Speaker 2: might be a minute. Alabama blewet. I'll watch the Final four.

898
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:52,399
Speaker 2: I haven't watched the basketball game yet, but I'll watch.

899
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:55,959
Speaker 2: I'll watch the final wins the first game Saturday. No, Yeah,

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00:48:56,000 --> 00:49:00,319
Speaker 2: Saturday Saturday. What time they're both at on Saturday? One's

901
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 2: at six o'clock Saturday, Saturday Saturday, and they're back to back.

902
00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:06,399
Speaker 2: Got a concert I'm going to Oh what have we got?

903
00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:12,640
Speaker 1: Is it a competing billy strings? Whoa sweet? Yeah? You

904
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:16,960
Speaker 1: got an extra one extra ticket for.

905
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Speaker 2: He will come to be a third wheel for that concert.

906
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:27,000
Speaker 2: Maybe so at the end. Uh huh yeah, yeah, great show.

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00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:28,000
Speaker 2: I've heard he's fantastic.

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00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 1: I've seen him.

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00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:31,600
Speaker 2: I've heard nothing but good things.

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Speaker 1: Great to see you again, Great to be so too.

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00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:39,880
Speaker 2: And uh, next week, you can educate me on basketball

912
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:43,440
Speaker 2: a little bit. Well, not me, because you're asking a

913
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:44,000
Speaker 2: wrong guy.

914
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Speaker 1: I need some help. I didn't watch any all year.

915
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:46,759
Speaker 1: I need some help.

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Speaker 2: I don't know anything about basketball. I guess next week

917
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:53,840
Speaker 2: we'll probably talk about the NFL Draft again, well, of course,

918
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:57,279
Speaker 2: because it's the most important thing for this franchise. And

919
00:49:57,440 --> 00:49:59,960
Speaker 2: I'll give you a breakdown of some of the off

920
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:01,520
Speaker 2: defensive lineman I think this team needs it.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I like that that's coming up next week. Thanks

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Speaker 1: for listening.

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Speaker 2: Thanks to our entire crew, David, Joe, Brent Reaber, Joe

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Speaker 2: Fortunado for Jeff Logiman, I'm JP Shadrick, and this is

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Speaker 2: Jaguar's happy hour.