Speaker 1: Okay, Uh, I'm gonna need y'all, and by y'all, I
Speaker 1: mean my white audience to be a little self reflective here. Um,
Speaker 1: by the time stuff get to y'all that came from us,
Speaker 1: you'll be ruining it. When when y'all put your hands
Speaker 1: on our phrases, they just and our dances they just
Speaker 1: tend to lose their meaning and or morph into something else.
Speaker 1: Now I want you all to hear how self aware
Speaker 1: I am about this matt Ousawski who making all these beasts.
Speaker 1: That's a white boy. Okay, so I understand what I'm
Speaker 1: dealing with. Sophie. You Sophie white his head. Now she
Speaker 1: black his hair in a lot of ways. But Sophie,
Speaker 1: that's a white girl. Robert's a white boy. Like I'm
Speaker 1: on cool Zone media, these as white folks. So I
Speaker 1: am saying this as one who has a very pluralistic circle. Okay,
Speaker 1: So don't don't come with me, you know what I'm
Speaker 1: saying on some on some bullshit, you feel me. I'm
Speaker 1: I look, I need you to be a little self
Speaker 1: aware right now, good god man. And we're left kind
Speaker 1: of like scrambling because now white culture has redefined something
Speaker 1: that came from us, and and we have to like
Speaker 1: go back and be like, wait, wait, wait minute, now
Speaker 1: is that what we meant? And then sometimes it becomes
Speaker 1: because it's so dominant. Because you're the dominant culture, you
Speaker 1: get to define stuff. It's funny to watch this happen,
Speaker 1: not just with just white people in general, but obviously
Speaker 1: with white people in general, but specifically in this like
Speaker 1: outrage across the country about critical race theory. You I'm
Speaker 1: out of obscure law theory from the sixties, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying that, Like, Okay, all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: eighty years later, this is a new thought that's the
Speaker 1: scourge of our like, and I'm positive all of the
Speaker 1: stuff that you're calling critical race theory maybe know, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's not critical race theory. That's just normal history. And
Speaker 1: normal history ain't critical race. That they're not the same.
Speaker 1: It's a lens for which to understand how the system
Speaker 1: where I don't even need to explain it. To the
Speaker 1: point is, y'all don't know what the hell you're talking
Speaker 1: about when you're talking about critical race theory because you're
Speaker 1: actually not talking about critical race theory. Your dances like
Speaker 1: you just you turn them into TikTok challenges, and they
Speaker 1: that's not what is y'all doing. I want to talk
Speaker 1: to you all about and sold and canceled culture and
Speaker 1: isn't even a thing her politics, y'all. Right now, little politics, y'all,
Speaker 1: little politics. All right, I'm gonna give another silly example. Uh.
Speaker 1: I started noticing my um white. I'm sorry, I'm covered
Speaker 1: at y'all like this. When they started saying, oh, that's
Speaker 1: my jam. I remember being so confused because jam is
Speaker 1: about music. A jam is a song. Do you know
Speaker 1: someone foods are like, hey, hey, you want to go
Speaker 1: get tacos? Oh? Yeah, tacos are my jam. I would
Speaker 1: be like, wait, what, Like you've totally redefined the jam,
Speaker 1: you know? Uh, jam is a song or it could
Speaker 1: be an event maybe like you know, we're going to
Speaker 1: the jam, but come on, guys, pump up the jam.
Speaker 1: Pump it up? Right. So usually I am a huge
Speaker 1: proponent of the cultural exchanges that make things flourish and redefine. Uh.
Speaker 1: In a civil civilization that isn't um stratified in a
Speaker 1: way that oppresses one group or is um using one
Speaker 1: group as a source material for all of your other
Speaker 1: financial Shenanigans than cultural creations are up for everybody their
Speaker 1: gift to the world. You know, like black music, it's
Speaker 1: we're talking to us. We're talking about our situations, our
Speaker 1: experiences because we can only speak from our own lens.
Speaker 1: But no, there's no like law that says anyone else
Speaker 1: kane enjoy this. That's not you know. And if you
Speaker 1: notice anything about Black culture, if somebody comes in that's
Speaker 1: not black. Uh, respects the elders, respects the way it's
Speaker 1: things have been made, and gives honor where honor is due.
Speaker 1: And got the chops. If you got the chops, if
Speaker 1: you could actually do it, welcome you in. Use this
Speaker 1: arms are wide open. That's what's interesting, is like, that's
Speaker 1: what y'all understand about Black Like listen, we are much
Speaker 1: more welcoming than we get credit for. You know, if
Speaker 1: you go to the basketball court, you go to the
Speaker 1: you go whooping, and it's a white boy out here
Speaker 1: and he drained it. It is a complete meritocracy within
Speaker 1: our culture. If you can hoop, you can hoop done
Speaker 1: nobody Like listen, I don't care what you asian, that
Speaker 1: don't matter to us. If you can hoop, that's all
Speaker 1: that matters. Get on there and who just keep it real.
Speaker 1: Like one thing that I always say, like if you,
Speaker 1: let's say, you know you're a white person and you
Speaker 1: want to work communities of color for like advocacy or
Speaker 1: in youth programs like and there are things that you
Speaker 1: absolutely cannot relate to. That's true, right, but what we
Speaker 1: have always always valued is authenticity. Just keep it real.
Speaker 1: Just be true to yourself, true about your shortcomings, and
Speaker 1: come with it. Listen, Robin Thick, go back to that.
Speaker 1: That's because Homie can sing. Now, of course he didn't.
Speaker 1: He got his problems with the marvit gay stuff. I
Speaker 1: can't know me, I can't call that. But what I'm
Speaker 1: saying is that the music still the man could sing.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. He called his ice. That's
Speaker 1: why we respected it. It's look Bruno mars He Colde
Speaker 1: like which the average white band. We'll go back to
Speaker 1: all that createds clear Water Revival cold like Yo saying
Speaker 1: if you if you code, that's all it is unless
Speaker 1: you larry bird because then you the you the Laker
Speaker 1: killer and they build you as like hell of rights
Speaker 1: and say nothing we can do about that. But the
Speaker 1: point is we're very we very welcome me. We're like yo,
Speaker 1: white boy could saying yo adele and you're like, all
Speaker 1: what you want me to say? Girl could saying y'all saying,
Speaker 1: we actually very welcome me because these people not only
Speaker 1: come in, but they respect the culture. Now, Elvis, that's
Speaker 1: a different story. Now. Sometimes it may not even be
Speaker 1: that white boy's fault where they become the gentrifires and
Speaker 1: I don't And a lot of times, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, when we're talking about something gentrifying and and changing,
Speaker 1: it's it's it's definitions. Sometimes it would be happening innocently.
Speaker 1: Sometimes it'd be happening out of y'all silence, Like y'all
Speaker 1: think Elvis is a great example. It is Elvis. He
Speaker 1: liked black music, and he liked black dancing, and he
Speaker 1: became the king of rock and roll. But he show
Speaker 1: ain't correct nobody when they was when he was like, oh,
Speaker 1: now I'm I'm doing black music. I'm just the white
Speaker 1: boy doing black music. I don't think. I don't know
Speaker 1: if he was, you know, aware in the world enough
Speaker 1: to understand the ways for which his reputation is actually
Speaker 1: damaging to the very people. Uh that was his source material.
Speaker 1: Now I'm not an expert on Elvis. Some of y'all, mate,
Speaker 1: DM ME was all kind of stories of regaling him,
Speaker 1: attempting to uh protecting honor black voices. I look, you
Speaker 1: might be right. I'm just saying, as far as we concerned,
Speaker 1: Elvis is a different story. He ain't because he wasn't
Speaker 1: part of our culture. He just used what we had.
Speaker 1: That you you understand. I'm trying to say, there's a difference.
Speaker 1: I want to talk to you about two things today,
Speaker 1: well mainly one thing, but as a as also an
Speaker 1: example of how white people everything. When y'all started saying woke,
Speaker 1: you just you you've bent the me meaning, it just
Speaker 1: stretched it so far and it's so corny. Now you
Speaker 1: just weaponizes are slang. And like my daddy used to say,
Speaker 1: why my my dad from the seventies, you like you
Speaker 1: gotta stay woke, young brother, Like yes, all sudden, all sudden, y'all,
Speaker 1: like forty years later, you know what I mean now,
Speaker 1: But then it changed the meaning to me more than
Speaker 1: it's supposed to mean. And now it's a weapon. Anytime
Speaker 1: you're just you're you're just being the woke left like, man,
Speaker 1: shut the you don't know what it means, and the
Speaker 1: meaning you've given it is now the beating stick for anybody.
Speaker 1: I like to say something like this, So let me
Speaker 1: let me give y'all some game. The game is, don't
Speaker 1: let nobody change the meaning on you and then use
Speaker 1: it to weaponize and use that new meaning to beat
Speaker 1: you up on some stuff that's not that's not that's
Speaker 1: not the business. So today I want to talk specifically
Speaker 1: about the term cancel culture, and to get into this conversation,
Speaker 1: I wanted to introduce you'all to a book, uh called
Speaker 1: white Fish Don't Exist, is booked by Lulu Miller. I'll
Speaker 1: tell you about it after this break. I yo, So
Speaker 1: Lulu Miller, I listened to this. I'm an audiobook kind
Speaker 1: of guy. I don't read as much as I seem
Speaker 1: like I do. I just listened very intently. Brilliant lady.
Speaker 1: She's the host of Radio lab um W NYC Studios.
Speaker 1: This is a apparently I'm plugging a whole other podcast,
Speaker 1: but you can listen to on my podcast, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. It's a difference anyway. Um. She wrote
Speaker 1: a book about her personal journey of a breakup reimagining
Speaker 1: her world and what is actually possible versus what she
Speaker 1: thought was possible, And in some ways it was a
Speaker 1: little bit of some of the sort of research and
Speaker 1: inspiration in part for my book terraform I. I read
Speaker 1: this book before or I listened to this book before
Speaker 1: or while I was writing mine. One for just to
Speaker 1: know what I was talking about, and two because I
Speaker 1: just I think she's brilliant. Anyway, the title comes from
Speaker 1: something that's really going on in the taxonomy world. Remember
Speaker 1: that taxonomy is something that like we discovered. It's just
Speaker 1: a way to organize for our understanding the living things
Speaker 1: on our planet. They aren't they don't necessarily have to,
Speaker 1: you know, kingdom filing, class order, genus, species like okay,
Speaker 1: that's a system that we put on the animals like
Speaker 1: they they didn't organize themselves that way. Just the biodiversity.
Speaker 1: And for us to understand the biodiversity, we use these phrases.
Speaker 1: You you you following, I'm stick with me, dog, I'm
Speaker 1: I'm still talking, let me land this plane, I'm still
Speaker 1: talking canceled culture. So anyway, she gives an example in
Speaker 1: this book that if you were to take a salmon
Speaker 1: a lungfish and a cow, and I were to ask
Speaker 1: you a very simple question like, uh, which one of
Speaker 1: these two animals are more closely related to each other? Well, duds,
Speaker 1: there's two fish on the on the table, and one's
Speaker 1: a cow. So the salmon and the lungfish. Obviously that's
Speaker 1: not the answer, because this wouldn't be an interesting book
Speaker 1: if that was the answer, Because turns out, once you
Speaker 1: get into the actual organs of these creatures, the lungfish
Speaker 1: and the cow are much more related when you look
Speaker 1: at the parts they have inside of them. They share
Speaker 1: more parts with each other than the lungfish does with
Speaker 1: the salmon. And it turns out you can do this
Speaker 1: with almost every other species of fish in ocean. As
Speaker 1: a matter of fact, none of the fish are actually
Speaker 1: fish as we know it, and not think about it
Speaker 1: for a second. Uh, A catfish, a shrimp, octopus, jellyfish.
Speaker 1: You mean to tell me them the same animal? Them? Is? Not?
Speaker 1: Them are very different animals right When the whales are mammals.
Speaker 1: Whales have lungs. They don't have guilts, they have lungs like,
Speaker 1: so what they're saying is like everything in the crustaceans. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know shellfish and stuff like, they're all other things.
Speaker 1: It's it's as bonkers. The only thing that they share
Speaker 1: is the fact that they all in the ocean. The
Speaker 1: only thing they share is their location. That would be
Speaker 1: like you going to a mountain. Go look at the
Speaker 1: mountain wherever you are, if you're in the flat land,
Speaker 1: and think about a mountain, and think about every animal
Speaker 1: in that mountain and all of us deciding they're the
Speaker 1: same animal. That's we just all called everything in the
Speaker 1: ocean fish. We just and then we just said, we're
Speaker 1: just gonna all call everything on the on the mountain
Speaker 1: the same. We're gonna call it mantas. I don't know
Speaker 1: everything that live in the mountain is a manta. Sounds absurd, right,
Speaker 1: I mean, but that's what we did, right, So we
Speaker 1: call them fish because somebody decided they were that, And
Speaker 1: then we just kind of like and then the word
Speaker 1: just kept stretching to the point of where now it
Speaker 1: don't mean nothing because the fish really don't exist. They're
Speaker 1: all something else. And there's a push within the scientific
Speaker 1: field to stop using the word fish because it's deceptive.
Speaker 1: There's nothing, there's there's nothing that is it. It doesn't
Speaker 1: mean what it's supposed to mean or what we think
Speaker 1: it means. But yeah, it does because you know what
Speaker 1: I mean when I say fish, and in your head
Speaker 1: you know that the octopus is I mean, you're like, well,
Speaker 1: an octopus is an octopus, it's not a fish fish?
Speaker 1: Well is it seafood? Well yeah, okay, so it's of
Speaker 1: the sea, like we know. But we're still using these
Speaker 1: terms that really don't work because if you understand anything
Speaker 1: about the elasticity of language, I'm getting real nerdy on y'all.
Speaker 1: If you stretch your definition far enough, it ceases to
Speaker 1: mean anything. Right. If you stretch it too far, it
Speaker 1: stops meaning. It loses its meaning because it has no distinctions.
Speaker 1: It can't be everything and what it is at the
Speaker 1: same time. Like it can't it there's no defining right,
Speaker 1: that's how So once it gets too far it stops
Speaker 1: meaning something. Then you have to use context clues, right tonalities.
Speaker 1: It talks to Black people who were in just the
Speaker 1: words you good can all mean something else based on
Speaker 1: their tone and where they are in the sentence and
Speaker 1: who we talk it to. Yo, you're good? Are you good?
Speaker 1: Are you good? Now? You're good? They all need something else.
Speaker 1: Right what they to say words, and all my urban
Speaker 1: folks and listened to this knew exactly what I meant
Speaker 1: on all four of them things. So listen back to
Speaker 1: my point here. Nothing in that category of fish are
Speaker 1: actually fish. They're all something else. But we use this
Speaker 1: term because we don't know what else to call them all,
Speaker 1: and we got enough words for that. Apparently. I think
Speaker 1: that's cancel culture. It's a lot of different things that
Speaker 1: are all something else that we've just umbrella as cancel culture.
Speaker 1: So then when somebody says, what do you think of
Speaker 1: cancel culture, you gotta be like it's stupid or I
Speaker 1: get it, and it's like, well, you can't. Really, it's
Speaker 1: not that simple because they're not all that. Now let
Speaker 1: me do some let me do some uh some black
Speaker 1: Twitter history. I am absolutely positive the term canceled came
Speaker 1: from black women. That's first p why And that was
Speaker 1: something they used for themselves when they was talking about
Speaker 1: particular men that they was done with. Oh he canceled,
Speaker 1: you know. And like everything else that comes from black women,
Speaker 1: once it hits the rest of the world and go
Speaker 1: from black women. A lot of people say, go from
Speaker 1: black queer women. I don't I don't you can you
Speaker 1: can fight that, or gay men to black women, or
Speaker 1: black women too, black gay men to black twitter to
Speaker 1: the world, you know whatever. That's an in house debate.
Speaker 1: I'm not here to fight all that because I don't
Speaker 1: want to smoke with any of these groups. Uh, but
Speaker 1: I will say first, people are used term cancelers. Black women,
Speaker 1: they used it for very specific things. You know, when
Speaker 1: you was when they was basically when they was done.
Speaker 1: R Kelly like from what I understand, Look, man, we
Speaker 1: gotta cancel the snake, like, uh, this this is kate.
Speaker 1: We can't be a thing. But anyway, as it ballooned
Speaker 1: into a sort of phenomenon within our zaygeist, and then
Speaker 1: the white people got a hold of it, and I'm
Speaker 1: gonna say the white liberals got a hold of it first,
Speaker 1: and they was using it as a nice little beaten
Speaker 1: stick for uh, you know me too movements and such,
Speaker 1: and don't get me wrong, a lot of these foods
Speaker 1: deserved uh. But then it capt evolving and then right
Speaker 1: got ahold of it, and it was like theyre they
Speaker 1: chose this as their one of their biggest culture war
Speaker 1: points is just to cancel culture on the woke left.
Speaker 1: You know that that us buying into this is um
Speaker 1: the problem with society, right uh, is that you know,
Speaker 1: us dealing with issues of like looking in the past
Speaker 1: and problematic nguage and Dr Seuss or Mr potato Head
Speaker 1: deciding to just be potato head. I don't look, that's
Speaker 1: a toy. I don't care, but that this is another
Speaker 1: strike of cancel culture. Right Uh. That's a new meaning,
Speaker 1: right of what what we meant by cancel Now. I
Speaker 1: think there are a lot of things that fall into
Speaker 1: the definition to stretch the definition of cancel culture, one
Speaker 1: of which is just really as simple as like, look,
Speaker 1: I just I don't mess with that phone no more.
Speaker 1: Like I don't work with him no more. You had
Speaker 1: a person that you like that you rocked with for
Speaker 1: a while, found out some things was going on that
Speaker 1: you didn't know what was going on the whole time,
Speaker 1: and now you're like, I think I'm cool on that dude,
Speaker 1: Like that's just you being cool on that dude. Like
Speaker 1: I'm just I don't know, man, Like I don't need
Speaker 1: to be, you know, retweeting and following around. I'm kind
Speaker 1: of cool on that dude. I don't. You don't really
Speaker 1: like I found out he was moving in a certain
Speaker 1: way that I just don't vibe with. So I just
Speaker 1: don't rock with him, no more. Right, that's just you
Speaker 1: not I just don't. I don't think what this dude?
Speaker 1: No more. There's other stuff that like you. You you
Speaker 1: find politicians something about who losing their elections talking about
Speaker 1: I guess I just got cancer. Oh no, nigga, you
Speaker 1: just lost the election. You put up your best arguments.
Speaker 1: We chose the other guy. That's not canceled, Nigga. That's
Speaker 1: an election, right, is a woke left and the cancer.
Speaker 1: They don't like what I'm saying. Yeah, that's how voting works.
Speaker 1: You say what you go say, and if we don't
Speaker 1: like it, we don't choose you. Like that's I'll be.
Speaker 1: That's not canceled. That's campaigning, and you just lost the campaign.
Speaker 1: That's not that's you just lost the campaign. Then there's
Speaker 1: stuff that's just like financial boycotts. To you are a
Speaker 1: red blooded American citizen. You have a right to spend
Speaker 1: your money however you want to spend your money. And
Speaker 1: if you decide and I don't want to put my
Speaker 1: money into this carp that's called a boycott. We've been
Speaker 1: doing that for centuries. Are you canceled? I guess, I mean,
Speaker 1: I guess that's it. That's just a boycott. Remember that
Speaker 1: the Montgomery bus boycott, like was were canceling transportation? I mean,
Speaker 1: I guess, or it was like no, we have to
Speaker 1: figure out that. Like I'm I'm voting with my money.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna keep paying y'all to treat me unfairly.
Speaker 1: Or even if you're not treating me unfairly, I'm watching
Speaker 1: you treat somebody else unfairly. And I think since I
Speaker 1: don't have access, I am not in condoed, no power
Speaker 1: over you. My only power I got is my dollars.
Speaker 1: So I'm just choosing to not spend my dollar at
Speaker 1: your cry. I have a right to spend my money
Speaker 1: wherever I want to spend, and if I'm doing it
Speaker 1: out of a protest, that's what I'm doing, or just
Speaker 1: cat well, I guess that's boycotting. We've been boycotting forever.
Speaker 1: You decide you're not fucking with somebody, that's you're not
Speaker 1: finking with somebody. You decide you'll want to spend your
Speaker 1: money or spend your time, let's say with an artists.
Speaker 1: If you like, now, I really don't vibe with how
Speaker 1: they are off stage, so like it's hard for me
Speaker 1: to enjoy what they are on stage. If that's you,
Speaker 1: that's you kind of find out this nigga off stage,
Speaker 1: you know, beating the ship out of people, you know,
Speaker 1: treating their employees every which a way, and they don't
Speaker 1: feel no kind of way about it. You're like, yo,
Speaker 1: I'm a stand in solidarity for these people all stage
Speaker 1: that helping this food have a career, and be like,
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to like, I'm not gonna I feel
Speaker 1: like I'm enabling you by just I mean, if that's
Speaker 1: the way you rock, that's the way you rock. That's
Speaker 1: just you exercising your rights. You could spend your time
Speaker 1: and your money, however you won't. None, I don't in
Speaker 1: my opinion, none of them things is canceling. That's just
Speaker 1: they're all something else. You follow me, It's like the fish,
Speaker 1: they all something else. Now, having said that, I in
Speaker 1: an argument for the fact that, well, I mean something
Speaker 1: in there. I mean, we know what we mean when
Speaker 1: we say fish. There are some things about the entirety
Speaker 1: of canceling that you know, it's absolutely problematic. In my
Speaker 1: mind is the it's to me, it's the pylon effect,
Speaker 1: like the idea that like you don't even know why
Speaker 1: you're not rocking with this person no more, it's just
Speaker 1: it's just the wave now, it's just in style to
Speaker 1: this this person. You know what I'm saying. You gotta
Speaker 1: ask around, Hey, is this guy canceled? Am I not
Speaker 1: allowed a listener this? No more? Like Okay, that's lame
Speaker 1: to me, Like that's corny, Like if you don't even know,
Speaker 1: like you just you just following the trend. The trend
Speaker 1: is to like dog pile on a person. To me,
Speaker 1: that is trash. And I think that's what you mean
Speaker 1: when you say canceled. Is this like cultural swell of
Speaker 1: this pilon about this person to the point to where
Speaker 1: you flatten them in the sense that they are not dynamic,
Speaker 1: they can't learn from their mistakes, They couldn't have had
Speaker 1: a hard time at some point and are now different
Speaker 1: or working their ways out of it, and that it's permanent.
Speaker 1: That's what you probably mean by canceling, in which case, yes,
Speaker 1: that is absolutely unfair and and not right. They're also,
Speaker 1: especially as a public figure, has to be some sort
Speaker 1: of means for which those that are not in power
Speaker 1: to hold accountable those that are. Because we can't count
Speaker 1: on the justicis um you know that much right? The
Speaker 1: only thing we could count on is the one thing
Speaker 1: that they value, which is their pockets, is the popularity.
Speaker 1: So if I decide, yo, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: like this person ain't gonna listen to nobody telling them
Speaker 1: that's why they've been able to do this stuff for
Speaker 1: so long, then yo, okay, well maybe we can. And
Speaker 1: it is in hopes that they will feel that pressure,
Speaker 1: see the error in their ways, and hopefully change and
Speaker 1: that society could be better for it. That's the hope.
Speaker 1: I also think something that might be problematic in my opinion,
Speaker 1: and again, this is game, and you can take it
Speaker 1: for what it is. It is when um, now this
Speaker 1: person off stage, their behavior sort of colors the excellency
Speaker 1: of their work. Let me tell you why R Kelly
Speaker 1: and Kanye West lasted so long. It's because when you
Speaker 1: press play, I don't know what to tell you, the
Speaker 1: song slaps like I just you look. It's like it's
Speaker 1: like you having the toxic nous of the most toxic
Speaker 1: boyfriend girlfriend you could possibly imagine. Just toxic. You notice
Speaker 1: ain't no good. You know you're trying to break up,
Speaker 1: But let me tell you something that box homie. Look, look,
Speaker 1: look that man. That man can. Let let me tell
Speaker 1: you something. That man know how to please me. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, like, Oh, that's I'm telling you boy,
Speaker 1: when you get in, when you put it in like,
Speaker 1: it's just there's just I can't deny the excellency of
Speaker 1: the experience with this toxic person. I understand that you
Speaker 1: need to end this relationship, but don't act like it
Speaker 1: wasn't glorious you You understand I'm saying. That's to me,
Speaker 1: that's like, let me not let me not take this
Speaker 1: away from you, like Nick is an incredible artist. And
Speaker 1: then also the thing that I think brings me to
Speaker 1: my third point that is problematic is the idea of
Speaker 1: mental health is that you know, people go through manic
Speaker 1: episodes and they make horrible decisions, and that's something that
Speaker 1: one must consider. Now. Having said that, that doesn't mean
Speaker 1: I need to keep spending my money on them. That
Speaker 1: doesn't mean I need to keep retweeting and reposting everything
Speaker 1: they do. I don't have to go to every concert
Speaker 1: like you this this person is a real person, and
Speaker 1: you can get help. Hopefully you've got people in your
Speaker 1: life and your real life that actually love you and
Speaker 1: are and care and are gonna like walk you through that.
Speaker 1: But like, I don't, as the public man, owe you nothing.
Speaker 1: I don't have to keep buying your music. You know,
Speaker 1: you're just falling to the cancel. Or what if I
Speaker 1: just don't rock with you no more? What if I've
Speaker 1: made my own decision and I'm like, yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: like those moves and at the same time understand that
Speaker 1: you're going through an episode. They they both can't be there.
Speaker 1: I think we should be more gracious to each other.
Speaker 1: I think we should build second chances. But I also
Speaker 1: think you can't weaponize my freedoms to decide who I
Speaker 1: rock with and don't rock with and just call that
Speaker 1: cancel culture. Now, listen, at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: don't let nobody else define something for you that you
Speaker 1: already know the answer to and then weapon eyes it.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's politics. That's called a straw man. In
Speaker 1: a lot of ways, I'm gonna build up something, You're
Speaker 1: gonna say something. I'm gonna build it up, redefine it. Right,
Speaker 1: you know who else did this very well Trump? You
Speaker 1: know what, he did it with fake news, because fake
Speaker 1: news means it is actually fake, like it's not true.
Speaker 1: He said it to mean anything that disagreed with him,
Speaker 1: you're fake news. So anytime you said something that was like, well, yo,
Speaker 1: I don't think that that's fake news, Okay, yeah you didn't.
Speaker 1: You didn't. You didn't change the definition, and now I can't.
Speaker 1: Now we can't have a conversation. Continue the change. Now
Speaker 1: I'm going, well, I'm defending the phrase fake news. Now, well,
Speaker 1: no that's not that's not fake it's this. So now
Speaker 1: you didn't you you want a whole other trajectory. Man,
Speaker 1: can't let nobody do that to you. Why am I
Speaker 1: giving you all this stuff again? Because this is an
Speaker 1: election year. We're in the mid terms. You need this game.
Speaker 1: We need to think about these things. Listen, if you
Speaker 1: don't rock with somebody, you don't rock with him. I
Speaker 1: have a fiducia arey duty in the sense that I
Speaker 1: am a public figure to maintain a certain level of integrity,
Speaker 1: and you are my stakeholders. I understand that you have
Speaker 1: the right to call me on some stuff to the
Speaker 1: extent that you're referring to the product I'm giving you. Now,
Speaker 1: y'all don't know me. A lot of y'all, A lot
Speaker 1: of y'all do know me, but lot y'all don't know me,
Speaker 1: and so there's information you don't have. But should you
Speaker 1: decide you don't mess with problem no more? I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm sad. Should this happen to me, maybe this would
Speaker 1: be a different story, Maybe I would be like the
Speaker 1: whole different podcasts. Should Bob be the victim of this?
Speaker 1: But let me give you a little bit of vulnerability
Speaker 1: for myself. I have been the victim of I've been
Speaker 1: on the canceling block. It was just before we called
Speaker 1: it canceled, and it was in my invent evangelical days
Speaker 1: is when I started talking about racist. And the crazy
Speaker 1: part is I was never not talking about racist In
Speaker 1: the church I grew up in, we talked about it
Speaker 1: all the time. But I got I got marked as
Speaker 1: a liberal leftist Marxist socialists, and they stopped inviting me
Speaker 1: to their churches. Was I canceled? I mean, I guess,
Speaker 1: but I knew what the hell I was talking about.
Speaker 1: I know, to feel like to stop getting the emails.
Speaker 1: But if you're gonna stop getting the emails. Get it
Speaker 1: for the right reasons. Do it because you stood up
Speaker 1: for something that you knew was right. And if they
Speaker 1: cancel you, they cancel. But I'm pretty sure most of
Speaker 1: the time people talking about canceling, they don't really mean canceling.
Speaker 1: They mean accountability. We should hold people accountable for their words.
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