1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:06,720 Speaker 1: Okay, Uh, I'm gonna need y'all, and by y'all, I 2 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: mean my white audience to be a little self reflective here. Um, 3 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 1: by the time stuff get to y'all that came from us, 4 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 1: you'll be ruining it. When when y'all put your hands 5 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 1: on our phrases, they just and our dances they just 6 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:35,479 Speaker 1: tend to lose their meaning and or morph into something else. 7 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 1: Now I want you all to hear how self aware 8 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 1: I am about this matt Ousawski who making all these beasts. 9 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 1: That's a white boy. Okay, so I understand what I'm 10 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 1: dealing with. Sophie. You Sophie white his head. Now she 11 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:52,519 Speaker 1: black his hair in a lot of ways. But Sophie, 12 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 1: that's a white girl. Robert's a white boy. Like I'm 13 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 1: on cool Zone media, these as white folks. So I 14 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 1: am saying this as one who has a very pluralistic circle. Okay, 15 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:09,319 Speaker 1: So don't don't come with me, you know what I'm 16 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 1: saying on some on some bullshit, you feel me. I'm 17 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 1: I look, I need you to be a little self 18 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 1: aware right now, good god man. And we're left kind 19 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 1: of like scrambling because now white culture has redefined something 20 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 1: that came from us, and and we have to like 21 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 1: go back and be like, wait, wait, wait minute, now 22 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:38,319 Speaker 1: is that what we meant? And then sometimes it becomes 23 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 1: because it's so dominant. Because you're the dominant culture, you 24 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 1: get to define stuff. It's funny to watch this happen, 25 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 1: not just with just white people in general, but obviously 26 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 1: with white people in general, but specifically in this like 27 00:01:55,880 --> 00:02:00,120 Speaker 1: outrage across the country about critical race theory. You I'm 28 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 1: out of obscure law theory from the sixties, you know 29 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 1: what I'm saying that, Like, Okay, all of a sudden, 30 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 1: eighty years later, this is a new thought that's the 31 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 1: scourge of our like, and I'm positive all of the 32 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 1: stuff that you're calling critical race theory maybe know, yeah, 33 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 1: it's not critical race theory. That's just normal history. And 34 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:34,800 Speaker 1: normal history ain't critical race. That they're not the same. 35 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 1: It's a lens for which to understand how the system 36 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 1: where I don't even need to explain it. To the 37 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 1: point is, y'all don't know what the hell you're talking 38 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 1: about when you're talking about critical race theory because you're 39 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 1: actually not talking about critical race theory. Your dances like 40 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 1: you just you turn them into TikTok challenges, and they 41 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 1: that's not what is y'all doing. I want to talk 42 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 1: to you all about and sold and canceled culture and 43 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 1: isn't even a thing her politics, y'all. Right now, little politics, y'all, 44 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:21,519 Speaker 1: little politics. All right, I'm gonna give another silly example. Uh. 45 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 1: I started noticing my um white. I'm sorry, I'm covered 46 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:29,639 Speaker 1: at y'all like this. When they started saying, oh, that's 47 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 1: my jam. I remember being so confused because jam is 48 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 1: about music. A jam is a song. Do you know 49 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 1: someone foods are like, hey, hey, you want to go 50 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 1: get tacos? Oh? Yeah, tacos are my jam. I would 51 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 1: be like, wait, what, Like you've totally redefined the jam, 52 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 1: you know? Uh, jam is a song or it could 53 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 1: be an event maybe like you know, we're going to 54 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 1: the jam, but come on, guys, pump up the jam. 55 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 1: Pump it up? Right. So usually I am a huge 56 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 1: proponent of the cultural exchanges that make things flourish and redefine. Uh. 57 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 1: In a civil civilization that isn't um stratified in a 58 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 1: way that oppresses one group or is um using one 59 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 1: group as a source material for all of your other 60 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:42,279 Speaker 1: financial Shenanigans than cultural creations are up for everybody their 61 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 1: gift to the world. You know, like black music, it's 62 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:51,600 Speaker 1: we're talking to us. We're talking about our situations, our 63 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:54,360 Speaker 1: experiences because we can only speak from our own lens. 64 00:04:56,279 --> 00:05:00,160 Speaker 1: But no, there's no like law that says anyone else 65 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 1: kane enjoy this. That's not you know. And if you 66 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 1: notice anything about Black culture, if somebody comes in that's 67 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 1: not black. Uh, respects the elders, respects the way it's 68 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 1: things have been made, and gives honor where honor is due. 69 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:20,480 Speaker 1: And got the chops. If you got the chops, if 70 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:23,840 Speaker 1: you could actually do it, welcome you in. Use this 71 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 1: arms are wide open. That's what's interesting, is like, that's 72 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:30,599 Speaker 1: what y'all understand about Black Like listen, we are much 73 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 1: more welcoming than we get credit for. You know, if 74 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 1: you go to the basketball court, you go to the 75 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:37,280 Speaker 1: you go whooping, and it's a white boy out here 76 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 1: and he drained it. It is a complete meritocracy within 77 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 1: our culture. If you can hoop, you can hoop done 78 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 1: nobody Like listen, I don't care what you asian, that 79 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:50,360 Speaker 1: don't matter to us. If you can hoop, that's all 80 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:53,600 Speaker 1: that matters. Get on there and who just keep it real. 81 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:56,360 Speaker 1: Like one thing that I always say, like if you, 82 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 1: let's say, you know you're a white person and you 83 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:02,279 Speaker 1: want to work communities of color for like advocacy or 84 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:04,720 Speaker 1: in youth programs like and there are things that you 85 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 1: absolutely cannot relate to. That's true, right, but what we 86 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 1: have always always valued is authenticity. Just keep it real. 87 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 1: Just be true to yourself, true about your shortcomings, and 88 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 1: come with it. Listen, Robin Thick, go back to that. 89 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:24,840 Speaker 1: That's because Homie can sing. Now, of course he didn't. 90 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 1: He got his problems with the marvit gay stuff. I 91 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:28,840 Speaker 1: can't know me, I can't call that. But what I'm 92 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 1: saying is that the music still the man could sing. 93 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. He called his ice. That's 94 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:40,159 Speaker 1: why we respected it. It's look Bruno mars He Colde 95 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 1: like which the average white band. We'll go back to 96 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:49,039 Speaker 1: all that createds clear Water Revival cold like Yo saying 97 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 1: if you if you code, that's all it is unless 98 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 1: you larry bird because then you the you the Laker 99 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 1: killer and they build you as like hell of rights 100 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 1: and say nothing we can do about that. But the 101 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 1: point is we're very we very welcome me. We're like yo, 102 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 1: white boy could saying yo adele and you're like, all 103 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 1: what you want me to say? Girl could saying y'all saying, 104 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 1: we actually very welcome me because these people not only 105 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 1: come in, but they respect the culture. Now, Elvis, that's 106 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 1: a different story. Now. Sometimes it may not even be 107 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 1: that white boy's fault where they become the gentrifires and 108 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 1: I don't And a lot of times, you know what 109 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 1: I'm saying, when we're talking about something gentrifying and and changing, 110 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 1: it's it's it's definitions. Sometimes it would be happening innocently. 111 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 1: Sometimes it'd be happening out of y'all silence, Like y'all 112 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 1: think Elvis is a great example. It is Elvis. He 113 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 1: liked black music, and he liked black dancing, and he 114 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 1: became the king of rock and roll. But he show 115 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 1: ain't correct nobody when they was when he was like, oh, 116 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 1: now I'm I'm doing black music. I'm just the white 117 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 1: boy doing black music. I don't think. I don't know 118 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 1: if he was, you know, aware in the world enough 119 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 1: to understand the ways for which his reputation is actually 120 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 1: damaging to the very people. Uh that was his source material. 121 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 1: Now I'm not an expert on Elvis. Some of y'all, mate, 122 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 1: DM ME was all kind of stories of regaling him, 123 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 1: attempting to uh protecting honor black voices. I look, you 124 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 1: might be right. I'm just saying, as far as we concerned, 125 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:34,440 Speaker 1: Elvis is a different story. He ain't because he wasn't 126 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 1: part of our culture. He just used what we had. 127 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 1: That you you understand. I'm trying to say, there's a difference. 128 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 1: I want to talk to you about two things today, 129 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 1: well mainly one thing, but as a as also an 130 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 1: example of how white people everything. When y'all started saying woke, 131 00:08:57,360 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 1: you just you you've bent the me meaning, it just 132 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 1: stretched it so far and it's so corny. Now you 133 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 1: just weaponizes are slang. And like my daddy used to say, 134 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 1: why my my dad from the seventies, you like you 135 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 1: gotta stay woke, young brother, Like yes, all sudden, all sudden, y'all, 136 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:21,680 Speaker 1: like forty years later, you know what I mean now, 137 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 1: But then it changed the meaning to me more than 138 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:27,319 Speaker 1: it's supposed to mean. And now it's a weapon. Anytime 139 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 1: you're just you're you're just being the woke left like, man, 140 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:37,560 Speaker 1: shut the you don't know what it means, and the 141 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 1: meaning you've given it is now the beating stick for anybody. 142 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:44,960 Speaker 1: I like to say something like this, So let me 143 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:48,840 Speaker 1: let me give y'all some game. The game is, don't 144 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 1: let nobody change the meaning on you and then use 145 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 1: it to weaponize and use that new meaning to beat 146 00:09:56,640 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 1: you up on some stuff that's not that's not that's 147 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 1: not the business. So today I want to talk specifically 148 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:12,839 Speaker 1: about the term cancel culture, and to get into this conversation, 149 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 1: I wanted to introduce you'all to a book, uh called 150 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:22,559 Speaker 1: white Fish Don't Exist, is booked by Lulu Miller. I'll 151 00:10:22,559 --> 00:11:02,080 Speaker 1: tell you about it after this break. I yo, So 152 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:06,080 Speaker 1: Lulu Miller, I listened to this. I'm an audiobook kind 153 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 1: of guy. I don't read as much as I seem 154 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:11,840 Speaker 1: like I do. I just listened very intently. Brilliant lady. 155 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:17,599 Speaker 1: She's the host of Radio lab um W NYC Studios. 156 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:20,840 Speaker 1: This is a apparently I'm plugging a whole other podcast, 157 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 1: but you can listen to on my podcast, you know 158 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 1: what I mean. It's a difference anyway. Um. She wrote 159 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 1: a book about her personal journey of a breakup reimagining 160 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 1: her world and what is actually possible versus what she 161 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:41,440 Speaker 1: thought was possible, And in some ways it was a 162 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:44,679 Speaker 1: little bit of some of the sort of research and 163 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 1: inspiration in part for my book terraform I. I read 164 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 1: this book before or I listened to this book before 165 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 1: or while I was writing mine. One for just to 166 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 1: know what I was talking about, and two because I 167 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 1: just I think she's brilliant. Anyway, the title comes from 168 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 1: something that's really going on in the taxonomy world. Remember 169 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 1: that taxonomy is something that like we discovered. It's just 170 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:19,320 Speaker 1: a way to organize for our understanding the living things 171 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 1: on our planet. They aren't they don't necessarily have to, 172 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 1: you know, kingdom filing, class order, genus, species like okay, 173 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 1: that's a system that we put on the animals like 174 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 1: they they didn't organize themselves that way. Just the biodiversity. 175 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 1: And for us to understand the biodiversity, we use these phrases. 176 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 1: You you you following, I'm stick with me, dog, I'm 177 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 1: I'm still talking, let me land this plane, I'm still 178 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 1: talking canceled culture. So anyway, she gives an example in 179 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 1: this book that if you were to take a salmon 180 00:12:55,600 --> 00:13:02,960 Speaker 1: a lungfish and a cow, and I were to ask 181 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:05,720 Speaker 1: you a very simple question like, uh, which one of 182 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 1: these two animals are more closely related to each other? Well, duds, 183 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 1: there's two fish on the on the table, and one's 184 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:17,960 Speaker 1: a cow. So the salmon and the lungfish. Obviously that's 185 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:20,959 Speaker 1: not the answer, because this wouldn't be an interesting book 186 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:24,680 Speaker 1: if that was the answer, Because turns out, once you 187 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:31,720 Speaker 1: get into the actual organs of these creatures, the lungfish 188 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 1: and the cow are much more related when you look 189 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 1: at the parts they have inside of them. They share 190 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:43,719 Speaker 1: more parts with each other than the lungfish does with 191 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 1: the salmon. And it turns out you can do this 192 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 1: with almost every other species of fish in ocean. As 193 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 1: a matter of fact, none of the fish are actually 194 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 1: fish as we know it, and not think about it 195 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 1: for a second. Uh, A catfish, a shrimp, octopus, jellyfish. 196 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 1: You mean to tell me them the same animal? Them? Is? Not? 197 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 1: Them are very different animals right When the whales are mammals. 198 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 1: Whales have lungs. They don't have guilts, they have lungs like, 199 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 1: so what they're saying is like everything in the crustaceans. Uh, 200 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 1: you know shellfish and stuff like, they're all other things. 201 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 1: It's it's as bonkers. The only thing that they share 202 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 1: is the fact that they all in the ocean. The 203 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 1: only thing they share is their location. That would be 204 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 1: like you going to a mountain. Go look at the 205 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 1: mountain wherever you are, if you're in the flat land, 206 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 1: and think about a mountain, and think about every animal 207 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 1: in that mountain and all of us deciding they're the 208 00:14:57,080 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 1: same animal. That's we just all called everything in the 209 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 1: ocean fish. We just and then we just said, we're 210 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 1: just gonna all call everything on the on the mountain 211 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 1: the same. We're gonna call it mantas. I don't know 212 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 1: everything that live in the mountain is a manta. Sounds absurd, right, 213 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 1: I mean, but that's what we did, right, So we 214 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 1: call them fish because somebody decided they were that, And 215 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 1: then we just kind of like and then the word 216 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 1: just kept stretching to the point of where now it 217 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 1: don't mean nothing because the fish really don't exist. They're 218 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 1: all something else. And there's a push within the scientific 219 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 1: field to stop using the word fish because it's deceptive. 220 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 1: There's nothing, there's there's nothing that is it. It doesn't 221 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 1: mean what it's supposed to mean or what we think 222 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 1: it means. But yeah, it does because you know what 223 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 1: I mean when I say fish, and in your head 224 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 1: you know that the octopus is I mean, you're like, well, 225 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 1: an octopus is an octopus, it's not a fish fish? 226 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 1: Well is it seafood? Well yeah, okay, so it's of 227 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 1: the sea, like we know. But we're still using these 228 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 1: terms that really don't work because if you understand anything 229 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 1: about the elasticity of language, I'm getting real nerdy on y'all. 230 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 1: If you stretch your definition far enough, it ceases to 231 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 1: mean anything. Right. If you stretch it too far, it 232 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 1: stops meaning. It loses its meaning because it has no distinctions. 233 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 1: It can't be everything and what it is at the 234 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 1: same time. Like it can't it there's no defining right, 235 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 1: that's how So once it gets too far it stops 236 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 1: meaning something. Then you have to use context clues, right tonalities. 237 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 1: It talks to Black people who were in just the 238 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 1: words you good can all mean something else based on 239 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 1: their tone and where they are in the sentence and 240 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 1: who we talk it to. Yo, you're good? Are you good? 241 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 1: Are you good? Now? You're good? They all need something else. 242 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 1: Right what they to say words, and all my urban 243 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:11,400 Speaker 1: folks and listened to this knew exactly what I meant 244 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:14,199 Speaker 1: on all four of them things. So listen back to 245 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:18,240 Speaker 1: my point here. Nothing in that category of fish are 246 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 1: actually fish. They're all something else. But we use this 247 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:25,920 Speaker 1: term because we don't know what else to call them all, 248 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 1: and we got enough words for that. Apparently. I think 249 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:34,159 Speaker 1: that's cancel culture. It's a lot of different things that 250 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 1: are all something else that we've just umbrella as cancel culture. 251 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 1: So then when somebody says, what do you think of 252 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:43,879 Speaker 1: cancel culture, you gotta be like it's stupid or I 253 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 1: get it, and it's like, well, you can't. Really, it's 254 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 1: not that simple because they're not all that. Now let 255 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 1: me do some let me do some uh some black 256 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:54,640 Speaker 1: Twitter history. I am absolutely positive the term canceled came 257 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:57,639 Speaker 1: from black women. That's first p why And that was 258 00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 1: something they used for themselves when they was talking about 259 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 1: particular men that they was done with. Oh he canceled, 260 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 1: you know. And like everything else that comes from black women, 261 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 1: once it hits the rest of the world and go 262 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:14,239 Speaker 1: from black women. A lot of people say, go from 263 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 1: black queer women. I don't I don't you can you 264 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:19,880 Speaker 1: can fight that, or gay men to black women, or 265 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 1: black women too, black gay men to black twitter to 266 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 1: the world, you know whatever. That's an in house debate. 267 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 1: I'm not here to fight all that because I don't 268 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:32,919 Speaker 1: want to smoke with any of these groups. Uh, but 269 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:38,879 Speaker 1: I will say first, people are used term cancelers. Black women, 270 00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:44,359 Speaker 1: they used it for very specific things. You know, when 271 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 1: you was when they was basically when they was done. 272 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:50,359 Speaker 1: R Kelly like from what I understand, Look, man, we 273 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:55,240 Speaker 1: gotta cancel the snake, like, uh, this this is kate. 274 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 1: We can't be a thing. But anyway, as it ballooned 275 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:05,880 Speaker 1: into a sort of phenomenon within our zaygeist, and then 276 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 1: the white people got a hold of it, and I'm 277 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:11,919 Speaker 1: gonna say the white liberals got a hold of it first, 278 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 1: and they was using it as a nice little beaten 279 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 1: stick for uh, you know me too movements and such, 280 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:28,119 Speaker 1: and don't get me wrong, a lot of these foods 281 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:33,440 Speaker 1: deserved uh. But then it capt evolving and then right 282 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:36,480 Speaker 1: got ahold of it, and it was like theyre they 283 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:42,120 Speaker 1: chose this as their one of their biggest culture war 284 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 1: points is just to cancel culture on the woke left. 285 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:49,719 Speaker 1: You know that that us buying into this is um 286 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:55,119 Speaker 1: the problem with society, right uh, is that you know, 287 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:58,440 Speaker 1: us dealing with issues of like looking in the past 288 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 1: and problematic nguage and Dr Seuss or Mr potato Head 289 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:07,400 Speaker 1: deciding to just be potato head. I don't look, that's 290 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:10,240 Speaker 1: a toy. I don't care, but that this is another 291 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:14,320 Speaker 1: strike of cancel culture. Right Uh. That's a new meaning, 292 00:20:15,080 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 1: right of what what we meant by cancel Now. I 293 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:09,200 Speaker 1: think there are a lot of things that fall into 294 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 1: the definition to stretch the definition of cancel culture, one 295 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:16,840 Speaker 1: of which is just really as simple as like, look, 296 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 1: I just I don't mess with that phone no more. 297 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 1: Like I don't work with him no more. You had 298 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 1: a person that you like that you rocked with for 299 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 1: a while, found out some things was going on that 300 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:29,920 Speaker 1: you didn't know what was going on the whole time, 301 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:32,119 Speaker 1: and now you're like, I think I'm cool on that dude, 302 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 1: Like that's just you being cool on that dude. Like 303 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 1: I'm just I don't know, man, Like I don't need 304 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:41,640 Speaker 1: to be, you know, retweeting and following around. I'm kind 305 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:43,560 Speaker 1: of cool on that dude. I don't. You don't really 306 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:45,200 Speaker 1: like I found out he was moving in a certain 307 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:47,359 Speaker 1: way that I just don't vibe with. So I just 308 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 1: don't rock with him, no more. Right, that's just you 309 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 1: not I just don't. I don't think what this dude? 310 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 1: No more. There's other stuff that like you. You you 311 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 1: find politicians something about who losing their elections talking about 312 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:00,960 Speaker 1: I guess I just got cancer. Oh no, nigga, you 313 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:03,879 Speaker 1: just lost the election. You put up your best arguments. 314 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:07,400 Speaker 1: We chose the other guy. That's not canceled, Nigga. That's 315 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 1: an election, right, is a woke left and the cancer. 316 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:13,439 Speaker 1: They don't like what I'm saying. Yeah, that's how voting works. 317 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:17,160 Speaker 1: You say what you go say, and if we don't 318 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:19,240 Speaker 1: like it, we don't choose you. Like that's I'll be. 319 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 1: That's not canceled. That's campaigning, and you just lost the campaign. 320 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 1: That's not that's you just lost the campaign. Then there's 321 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 1: stuff that's just like financial boycotts. To you are a 322 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:37,159 Speaker 1: red blooded American citizen. You have a right to spend 323 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:41,959 Speaker 1: your money however you want to spend your money. And 324 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 1: if you decide and I don't want to put my 325 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 1: money into this carp that's called a boycott. We've been 326 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:51,920 Speaker 1: doing that for centuries. Are you canceled? I guess, I mean, 327 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:55,920 Speaker 1: I guess that's it. That's just a boycott. Remember that 328 00:22:56,040 --> 00:23:01,400 Speaker 1: the Montgomery bus boycott, like was were canceling transportation? I mean, 329 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:04,639 Speaker 1: I guess, or it was like no, we have to 330 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:09,359 Speaker 1: figure out that. Like I'm I'm voting with my money. 331 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna keep paying y'all to treat me unfairly. 332 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 1: Or even if you're not treating me unfairly, I'm watching 333 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:19,040 Speaker 1: you treat somebody else unfairly. And I think since I 334 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 1: don't have access, I am not in condoed, no power 335 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:26,399 Speaker 1: over you. My only power I got is my dollars. 336 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 1: So I'm just choosing to not spend my dollar at 337 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 1: your cry. I have a right to spend my money 338 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:32,959 Speaker 1: wherever I want to spend, and if I'm doing it 339 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:36,200 Speaker 1: out of a protest, that's what I'm doing, or just 340 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:41,320 Speaker 1: cat well, I guess that's boycotting. We've been boycotting forever. 341 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 1: You decide you're not fucking with somebody, that's you're not 342 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:48,679 Speaker 1: finking with somebody. You decide you'll want to spend your 343 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:52,159 Speaker 1: money or spend your time, let's say with an artists. 344 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:55,199 Speaker 1: If you like, now, I really don't vibe with how 345 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:58,680 Speaker 1: they are off stage, so like it's hard for me 346 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 1: to enjoy what they are on stage. If that's you, 347 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:04,919 Speaker 1: that's you kind of find out this nigga off stage, 348 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:09,200 Speaker 1: you know, beating the ship out of people, you know, 349 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:12,680 Speaker 1: treating their employees every which a way, and they don't 350 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:15,360 Speaker 1: feel no kind of way about it. You're like, yo, 351 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:18,000 Speaker 1: I'm a stand in solidarity for these people all stage 352 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 1: that helping this food have a career, and be like, 353 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:22,200 Speaker 1: I'm not trying to like, I'm not gonna I feel 354 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 1: like I'm enabling you by just I mean, if that's 355 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 1: the way you rock, that's the way you rock. That's 356 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 1: just you exercising your rights. You could spend your time 357 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:35,119 Speaker 1: and your money, however you won't. None, I don't in 358 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:39,119 Speaker 1: my opinion, none of them things is canceling. That's just 359 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 1: they're all something else. You follow me, It's like the fish, 360 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:50,920 Speaker 1: they all something else. Now, having said that, I in 361 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 1: an argument for the fact that, well, I mean something 362 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:55,479 Speaker 1: in there. I mean, we know what we mean when 363 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:59,160 Speaker 1: we say fish. There are some things about the entirety 364 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:03,119 Speaker 1: of canceling that you know, it's absolutely problematic. In my 365 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:06,320 Speaker 1: mind is the it's to me, it's the pylon effect, 366 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:08,720 Speaker 1: like the idea that like you don't even know why 367 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:11,399 Speaker 1: you're not rocking with this person no more, it's just 368 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:14,399 Speaker 1: it's just the wave now, it's just in style to 369 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:16,680 Speaker 1: this this person. You know what I'm saying. You gotta 370 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:18,399 Speaker 1: ask around, Hey, is this guy canceled? Am I not 371 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:21,200 Speaker 1: allowed a listener this? No more? Like Okay, that's lame 372 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 1: to me, Like that's corny, Like if you don't even know, 373 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:29,119 Speaker 1: like you just you just following the trend. The trend 374 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:31,680 Speaker 1: is to like dog pile on a person. To me, 375 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:35,120 Speaker 1: that is trash. And I think that's what you mean 376 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 1: when you say canceled. Is this like cultural swell of 377 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:46,960 Speaker 1: this pilon about this person to the point to where 378 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 1: you flatten them in the sense that they are not dynamic, 379 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:53,959 Speaker 1: they can't learn from their mistakes, They couldn't have had 380 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,399 Speaker 1: a hard time at some point and are now different 381 00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:59,919 Speaker 1: or working their ways out of it, and that it's permanent. 382 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:05,600 Speaker 1: That's what you probably mean by canceling, in which case, yes, 383 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:13,160 Speaker 1: that is absolutely unfair and and not right. They're also, 384 00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 1: especially as a public figure, has to be some sort 385 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:21,399 Speaker 1: of means for which those that are not in power 386 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 1: to hold accountable those that are. Because we can't count 387 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:30,920 Speaker 1: on the justicis um you know that much right? The 388 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:33,240 Speaker 1: only thing we could count on is the one thing 389 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:36,800 Speaker 1: that they value, which is their pockets, is the popularity. 390 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:39,880 Speaker 1: So if I decide, yo, you know what I'm saying, 391 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:44,120 Speaker 1: like this person ain't gonna listen to nobody telling them 392 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:46,840 Speaker 1: that's why they've been able to do this stuff for 393 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:50,680 Speaker 1: so long, then yo, okay, well maybe we can. And 394 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:56,080 Speaker 1: it is in hopes that they will feel that pressure, 395 00:26:57,000 --> 00:27:00,399 Speaker 1: see the error in their ways, and hopefully change and 396 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 1: that society could be better for it. That's the hope. 397 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:09,320 Speaker 1: I also think something that might be problematic in my opinion, 398 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:12,480 Speaker 1: and again, this is game, and you can take it 399 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:17,639 Speaker 1: for what it is. It is when um, now this 400 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:26,200 Speaker 1: person off stage, their behavior sort of colors the excellency 401 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:28,480 Speaker 1: of their work. Let me tell you why R Kelly 402 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:33,040 Speaker 1: and Kanye West lasted so long. It's because when you 403 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:35,600 Speaker 1: press play, I don't know what to tell you, the 404 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:39,680 Speaker 1: song slaps like I just you look. It's like it's 405 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:43,240 Speaker 1: like you having the toxic nous of the most toxic 406 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 1: boyfriend girlfriend you could possibly imagine. Just toxic. You notice 407 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 1: ain't no good. You know you're trying to break up, 408 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 1: But let me tell you something that box homie. Look, look, 409 00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:57,479 Speaker 1: look that man. That man can. Let let me tell 410 00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:00,399 Speaker 1: you something. That man know how to please me. You 411 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, like, Oh, that's I'm telling you boy, 412 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:04,720 Speaker 1: when you get in, when you put it in like, 413 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:10,680 Speaker 1: it's just there's just I can't deny the excellency of 414 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:17,399 Speaker 1: the experience with this toxic person. I understand that you 415 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:20,560 Speaker 1: need to end this relationship, but don't act like it 416 00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:23,920 Speaker 1: wasn't glorious you You understand I'm saying. That's to me, 417 00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:26,119 Speaker 1: that's like, let me not let me not take this 418 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 1: away from you, like Nick is an incredible artist. And 419 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:33,399 Speaker 1: then also the thing that I think brings me to 420 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:35,680 Speaker 1: my third point that is problematic is the idea of 421 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 1: mental health is that you know, people go through manic 422 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:44,320 Speaker 1: episodes and they make horrible decisions, and that's something that 423 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:47,840 Speaker 1: one must consider. Now. Having said that, that doesn't mean 424 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:50,160 Speaker 1: I need to keep spending my money on them. That 425 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:53,400 Speaker 1: doesn't mean I need to keep retweeting and reposting everything 426 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 1: they do. I don't have to go to every concert 427 00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 1: like you this this person is a real person, and 428 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:07,800 Speaker 1: you can get help. Hopefully you've got people in your 429 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 1: life and your real life that actually love you and 430 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:12,920 Speaker 1: are and care and are gonna like walk you through that. 431 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:18,120 Speaker 1: But like, I don't, as the public man, owe you nothing. 432 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:21,640 Speaker 1: I don't have to keep buying your music. You know, 433 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:23,640 Speaker 1: you're just falling to the cancel. Or what if I 434 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:26,600 Speaker 1: just don't rock with you no more? What if I've 435 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:28,840 Speaker 1: made my own decision and I'm like, yeah, I don't 436 00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:33,000 Speaker 1: like those moves and at the same time understand that 437 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:37,600 Speaker 1: you're going through an episode. They they both can't be there. 438 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:40,480 Speaker 1: I think we should be more gracious to each other. 439 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:43,280 Speaker 1: I think we should build second chances. But I also 440 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 1: think you can't weaponize my freedoms to decide who I 441 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:51,160 Speaker 1: rock with and don't rock with and just call that 442 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:54,360 Speaker 1: cancel culture. Now, listen, at the end of the day, 443 00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:57,080 Speaker 1: don't let nobody else define something for you that you 444 00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 1: already know the answer to and then weapon eyes it. 445 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:03,880 Speaker 1: I mean, that's politics. That's called a straw man. In 446 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:05,520 Speaker 1: a lot of ways, I'm gonna build up something, You're 447 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:08,200 Speaker 1: gonna say something. I'm gonna build it up, redefine it. Right, 448 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 1: you know who else did this very well Trump? You 449 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 1: know what, he did it with fake news, because fake 450 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 1: news means it is actually fake, like it's not true. 451 00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:21,800 Speaker 1: He said it to mean anything that disagreed with him, 452 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:26,280 Speaker 1: you're fake news. So anytime you said something that was like, well, yo, 453 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:28,800 Speaker 1: I don't think that that's fake news, Okay, yeah you didn't. 454 00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:34,880 Speaker 1: You didn't. You didn't change the definition, and now I can't. 455 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:37,640 Speaker 1: Now we can't have a conversation. Continue the change. Now 456 00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:40,239 Speaker 1: I'm going, well, I'm defending the phrase fake news. Now, well, 457 00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:42,280 Speaker 1: no that's not that's not fake it's this. So now 458 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:44,680 Speaker 1: you didn't you you want a whole other trajectory. Man, 459 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:48,680 Speaker 1: can't let nobody do that to you. Why am I 460 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:51,280 Speaker 1: giving you all this stuff again? Because this is an 461 00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 1: election year. We're in the mid terms. You need this game. 462 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 1: We need to think about these things. Listen, if you 463 00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:59,160 Speaker 1: don't rock with somebody, you don't rock with him. I 464 00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:01,200 Speaker 1: have a fiducia arey duty in the sense that I 465 00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:05,120 Speaker 1: am a public figure to maintain a certain level of integrity, 466 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 1: and you are my stakeholders. I understand that you have 467 00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:12,280 Speaker 1: the right to call me on some stuff to the 468 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:16,320 Speaker 1: extent that you're referring to the product I'm giving you. Now, 469 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 1: y'all don't know me. A lot of y'all, A lot 470 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:19,320 Speaker 1: of y'all do know me, but lot y'all don't know me, 471 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:24,720 Speaker 1: and so there's information you don't have. But should you 472 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:28,000 Speaker 1: decide you don't mess with problem no more? I mean, 473 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:34,800 Speaker 1: I'm sad. Should this happen to me, maybe this would 474 00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:38,440 Speaker 1: be a different story, Maybe I would be like the 475 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:41,920 Speaker 1: whole different podcasts. Should Bob be the victim of this? 476 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:46,960 Speaker 1: But let me give you a little bit of vulnerability 477 00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:54,320 Speaker 1: for myself. I have been the victim of I've been 478 00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:57,920 Speaker 1: on the canceling block. It was just before we called 479 00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:00,920 Speaker 1: it canceled, and it was in my invent evangelical days 480 00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:03,520 Speaker 1: is when I started talking about racist. And the crazy 481 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:08,800 Speaker 1: part is I was never not talking about racist In 482 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 1: the church I grew up in, we talked about it 483 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:15,360 Speaker 1: all the time. But I got I got marked as 484 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:18,920 Speaker 1: a liberal leftist Marxist socialists, and they stopped inviting me 485 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:22,080 Speaker 1: to their churches. Was I canceled? I mean, I guess, 486 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:25,000 Speaker 1: but I knew what the hell I was talking about. 487 00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:28,040 Speaker 1: I know, to feel like to stop getting the emails. 488 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,800 Speaker 1: But if you're gonna stop getting the emails. Get it 489 00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:34,840 Speaker 1: for the right reasons. Do it because you stood up 490 00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:37,840 Speaker 1: for something that you knew was right. And if they 491 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:42,600 Speaker 1: cancel you, they cancel. But I'm pretty sure most of 492 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:47,720 Speaker 1: the time people talking about canceling, they don't really mean canceling. 493 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:54,040 Speaker 1: They mean accountability. We should hold people accountable for their words. 494 00:32:55,520 --> 00:33:31,280 Speaker 1: Her politics, y'all. Yeah, that's here. Thing was recorded by 495 00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:35,400 Speaker 1: ME Propaganda in East Lows, boil Heights, Los Angeles, California. 496 00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:41,600 Speaker 1: This smug was mixed, edited, mastered, and scored by Matt Osowski. 497 00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:44,160 Speaker 1: I can totally say his name, guys, it was it 498 00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:46,920 Speaker 1: was a stick. He's going by Matt now again because 499 00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:49,760 Speaker 1: he got into some legal situations with the name Headlights. 500 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:52,120 Speaker 1: Y'all know, comment used to be called conference. You know 501 00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:56,479 Speaker 1: tip t I was Tipped Sometimes Happened. 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