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Speaker 1: The Season with Peter Schrager is a production of the

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Speaker 1: NFL in partnership with iHeartRadio. What's Up Everybody in his

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Speaker 1: Draft week? This is the Season with Peter Schrager. This

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Speaker 1: is what we've been building towards. You've been listening to

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Speaker 1: this podcast for several weeks and it's been just more

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Speaker 1: draft content, more draft content, more draft content. We're finally

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Speaker 1: We got great response from last week's two episodes. One

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Speaker 1: with Jim Naggy, the director of the Senior Bowl, who

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Speaker 1: knows a lot of these players inside and out from

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Speaker 1: his experience with them. And then I did a mock

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Speaker 1: and that went really well as far as listeners go.

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Speaker 1: So there's one more person I needed before we get

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Speaker 1: It's a guy that I've been doing draft coverage with

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Speaker 1: He's one of my favorite people in the world, a

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Speaker 1: true friend. He's also the lead college football analyst for

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Speaker 1: Fox Sports. You hear him on all of the Michigan

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Speaker 1: Championship game every year, and I think he is as

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Speaker 1: hard working and plugged in when it comes to college

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Speaker 1: His name is Joel Klatt. I'm gonna bring Joel in

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Speaker 1: So for me personally, I'll be on Good Morning Football

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Speaker 1: is on ESPN two as well, which is cool for us.

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Speaker 1: We do a simulcaska as we're kind of crossing over

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Speaker 1: content with them Friday morning Good Morning Football. Then Friday

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Speaker 1: night I will be on the Draft Dais if you will.

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Speaker 1: Joel will be on the main stage. I'll be on

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Speaker 1: guys know, if you're listening, these NFL teams a lot

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Speaker 1: Then Day three is my favorite day of the calendar

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Speaker 1: year for the NFL Draft. I will be on the

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Speaker 1: main stage with Daniel Jeremiah, Charles Davis, and Rich Eisen

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Speaker 1: and that'll be all day, sweltering in the sun in

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Speaker 1: and just got to say, when it comes to Saturday

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Speaker 1: it's going to be an A Plus broadcast. And one

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Speaker 1: happy to have him on the podcast. Joe Klatt, Welcome

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Speaker 2: I love this. This is so good. Thank you for

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Speaker 2: that introduction. You are a dear friend and unbelievable at

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Speaker 2: my favorite weeks of the year. Obviously, I love the fall,

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Speaker 2: Because he plays on schedule and on time, and he's

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Speaker 2: He's overcome a lot of adversity in his life, did

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Speaker 2: Because he almost drug an injured and depleted Buckeye team

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Speaker 1: When you compare it to a Will Levis or an

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Speaker 3: What's Houston going to do?

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Speaker 1: I'm going to do this mock draft with you this way.

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Speaker 1: So we had Daniel Jeremiah on. He was on the thing.

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Speaker 1: So we flipped a coin. Aaron, do we have our coin?

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Speaker 3: Oh? Do I have a coin?

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Speaker 1: Aaron's got a coin?

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Speaker 4: I got a coin through the magic of the Internet.

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Speaker 4: so a coin? It is an ai coin? Yeah, Joel,

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Speaker 4: pick heads or tails?

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Speaker 3: Tails? Always? You never pick heads?

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Speaker 5: All right?

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Speaker 1: So, Peter, I get to kick off or defer, I

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Speaker 1: this is a combination of what you would do, what

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Speaker 1: my former teams at Tennessee Titans, and I'd say, please,

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Speaker 1: Alabama can't go wrong someone. This sounds really really, I

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Speaker 1: And now, Joel, this is the money pick for the draft,

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Speaker 1: All Right, I don't know if I'm breaking news here

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Speaker 2: Oh man, this is I thought you were going to

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Speaker 1: Wow, Raiders at seven, I can't have Jalen Carter in

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Speaker 2: They will know Jalen Carter as well as anybody. I

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Speaker 1: with Tannehill and we can kind of grow. Or do

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00:21:14,546 --> 00:21:19,746
Speaker 1: I go wide receiver and say just defensive Paris Johnson

429
00:21:19,946 --> 00:21:23,266
Speaker 1: out of Ohio State. The Tennessee Titans take their future

430
00:21:23,386 --> 00:21:26,786
Speaker 1: offensive tackle and they get him there, and they pass

431
00:21:26,946 --> 00:21:29,506
Speaker 1: on both quarterbacks Texans on the board.

432
00:21:31,146 --> 00:21:33,266
Speaker 2: I means, okay, so they already got their quarterback because

433
00:21:33,266 --> 00:21:35,866
Speaker 2: I've got them CJ. And I'm going to give them,

434
00:21:36,106 --> 00:21:39,666
Speaker 2: like CJ's college teammate, the best wide receiver in the draft.

435
00:21:39,666 --> 00:21:43,746
Speaker 2: I'm taking Jackson Smith and Jigba wide receiver from Ohio State.

436
00:21:44,106 --> 00:21:47,826
Speaker 2: This might be a fool's errand to chase these guys

437
00:21:47,866 --> 00:21:51,826
Speaker 2: on the outside, regardless of who takes Jackson Smith and Jigba,

438
00:21:51,946 --> 00:21:53,186
Speaker 2: I just want to plant the flag.

439
00:21:53,386 --> 00:21:53,626
Speaker 3: Peter.

440
00:21:53,746 --> 00:21:55,866
Speaker 2: I think he's the best receiver in the draft. Okay,

441
00:21:55,866 --> 00:21:58,626
Speaker 2: if you go back to twenty twenty one, I covered

442
00:21:58,706 --> 00:22:02,866
Speaker 2: him extensively with Brian Hartline his position coach, Ryan Day,

443
00:22:02,946 --> 00:22:07,466
Speaker 2: his offensive coordinators, last head coach with j Stroud, with

444
00:22:07,666 --> 00:22:12,146
Speaker 2: Chris Olave and Garrett Wilson. To a man, they would

445
00:22:12,186 --> 00:22:16,106
Speaker 2: have all said and did to me several times. Jackson

446
00:22:16,146 --> 00:22:18,586
Speaker 2: Smith and Jigba is the best player on our offense.

447
00:22:19,106 --> 00:22:21,186
Speaker 2: I think we forget that because he was out with

448
00:22:21,306 --> 00:22:23,786
Speaker 2: that hamstring injury. This is a guy that I do

449
00:22:23,986 --> 00:22:27,506
Speaker 2: believe can based on his position and the volume that

450
00:22:27,586 --> 00:22:30,226
Speaker 2: he can produce, he will lead the league in receptions

451
00:22:30,266 --> 00:22:32,026
Speaker 2: at some point in his career. I think in the

452
00:22:32,066 --> 00:22:32,906
Speaker 2: first five years.

453
00:22:33,226 --> 00:22:37,306
Speaker 1: Bold bold, clip that off, Aaron clip it off. That's

454
00:22:37,346 --> 00:22:39,986
Speaker 1: going viral. I love that. That is a bold take.

455
00:22:41,266 --> 00:22:45,386
Speaker 1: That entire spiel on JSN when I've been told Joel

456
00:22:45,626 --> 00:22:47,906
Speaker 1: this might make you sick. There are no blue chip

457
00:22:47,986 --> 00:22:49,586
Speaker 1: wide receivers in this draft.

458
00:22:49,786 --> 00:22:50,146
Speaker 3: That's why.

459
00:22:50,546 --> 00:22:52,826
Speaker 2: And he's not a pure outside guy, so I'm not

460
00:22:53,466 --> 00:22:55,866
Speaker 2: I'm not going to push against that was Cooper cup

461
00:22:55,986 --> 00:22:58,146
Speaker 2: of a blue chip wide receiver when he came out.

462
00:22:58,346 --> 00:23:01,906
Speaker 3: No, no he's not. But what is he a production machine?

463
00:23:02,186 --> 00:23:05,266
Speaker 1: I'm on rass Saint Brown, same thing, yes, the same.

464
00:23:05,106 --> 00:23:06,866
Speaker 2: Thing, Like this guy can get you one hundred and

465
00:23:06,866 --> 00:23:10,626
Speaker 2: twenty catches. He just so, I didn't say he's the

466
00:23:10,666 --> 00:23:13,426
Speaker 2: best receiver, I know. I said I think he can

467
00:23:13,506 --> 00:23:16,106
Speaker 2: lead the league in receptions. You know, pretty much in

468
00:23:16,186 --> 00:23:18,186
Speaker 2: the vein of Cup and I'm on Ross Saint Brown.

469
00:23:18,266 --> 00:23:22,906
Speaker 2: That's that's the style. The slot specialist really understands space,

470
00:23:23,346 --> 00:23:26,946
Speaker 2: really quick, lateral quickness, smooth through the catch point.

471
00:23:27,506 --> 00:23:28,386
Speaker 3: Really love his game.

472
00:23:28,586 --> 00:23:30,386
Speaker 1: If the Texans were to come out of the top

473
00:23:30,506 --> 00:23:33,786
Speaker 1: twelve picks and said they got C. J. Stroud and

474
00:23:33,946 --> 00:23:37,666
Speaker 1: Jackson Smith Najigbo, would you say that's an a draft

475
00:23:37,706 --> 00:23:38,346
Speaker 1: in the first round.

476
00:23:38,786 --> 00:23:40,346
Speaker 3: I don't know, and I made the picks.

477
00:23:40,706 --> 00:23:43,946
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know either, I think so, I don't know.

478
00:23:44,146 --> 00:23:46,546
Speaker 1: They would be their starting quarterback and their number one

479
00:23:46,546 --> 00:23:47,746
Speaker 1: wide receiver right out of the gates.

480
00:23:47,826 --> 00:23:49,426
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know that, and I think it would be

481
00:23:49,466 --> 00:23:51,946
Speaker 2: an a draft, but I think, you know, truth be told,

482
00:23:51,986 --> 00:23:54,786
Speaker 2: it would it would take some time. Smith and Jigbo

483
00:23:54,826 --> 00:23:57,826
Speaker 2: would reach his potential faster with a veteran and a

484
00:23:58,066 --> 00:23:58,786
Speaker 2: solid offense.

485
00:23:58,866 --> 00:23:59,626
Speaker 3: But we'll see.

486
00:24:00,186 --> 00:24:03,226
Speaker 1: Jets at thirteen. They're going to go offensive line here.

487
00:24:04,026 --> 00:24:06,746
Speaker 1: I'm going to go with Broderick Jones out of Joe

488
00:24:06,826 --> 00:24:11,226
Speaker 1: the big tackle, safe ish pick. I think he's considered

489
00:24:11,266 --> 00:24:14,186
Speaker 1: one of the top tackle prospects, and you're protecting whoever

490
00:24:14,266 --> 00:24:18,786
Speaker 1: the asset is at quarterback, most likely Aaron Rodgers Patriots fourteen,

491
00:24:19,146 --> 00:24:19,666
Speaker 1: who do you got.

492
00:24:20,146 --> 00:24:20,786
Speaker 3: Don't love.

493
00:24:21,306 --> 00:24:25,146
Speaker 2: I don't love this part of the draft for these teams,

494
00:24:25,386 --> 00:24:27,146
Speaker 2: you know, I feel like they have too many needs

495
00:24:27,186 --> 00:24:30,986
Speaker 2: for the players available. I wanted to go offensive tackle

496
00:24:31,066 --> 00:24:34,106
Speaker 2: as well. There for the Patriots, it's a couple there.

497
00:24:34,586 --> 00:24:37,986
Speaker 2: I think I'll stay I'll stay offensive tackle. This is

498
00:24:38,066 --> 00:24:40,186
Speaker 2: probably a little high for him, but I'm gonna go

499
00:24:40,266 --> 00:24:42,146
Speaker 2: Darnell right the tackle from Tennessee.

500
00:24:42,586 --> 00:24:46,626
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, Darnell write to the Patriots tackle out

501
00:24:46,626 --> 00:24:49,186
Speaker 1: of Tennessee, which gives me the Packers. It's it's time

502
00:24:49,266 --> 00:24:51,946
Speaker 1: for the Packers to do something they've never done when

503
00:24:51,986 --> 00:24:54,866
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers was the quarterback. That's take a wide receiver

504
00:24:55,106 --> 00:24:56,826
Speaker 1: tight end the first round. I'm actually gonna surprise you.

505
00:24:56,866 --> 00:24:59,546
Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna go tight end, and please empty

506
00:24:59,586 --> 00:25:01,626
Speaker 1: the bag on what you got from this guy. Dalton

507
00:25:01,786 --> 00:25:04,386
Speaker 1: Kincaid at a Utah. I had never heard of him

508
00:25:04,466 --> 00:25:06,106
Speaker 1: until I watched him in a college game and I

509
00:25:06,186 --> 00:25:08,066
Speaker 1: was like, who's this. I think I texted you about him.

510
00:25:09,506 --> 00:25:12,826
Speaker 1: You covered a bunch of his games, Dalton Kincaid, what's

511
00:25:12,866 --> 00:25:13,626
Speaker 1: the story on him?

512
00:25:13,906 --> 00:25:14,186
Speaker 3: Okay?

513
00:25:14,266 --> 00:25:18,186
Speaker 2: So, really good basketball player in his youth, and admittedly

514
00:25:18,306 --> 00:25:21,906
Speaker 2: wanted to focus on basketball told recruiters that early in

515
00:25:21,986 --> 00:25:24,626
Speaker 2: his high school days, which is why he was Peter.

516
00:25:25,066 --> 00:25:27,666
Speaker 2: I would just call it like lightly recruited. So he's

517
00:25:27,666 --> 00:25:30,026
Speaker 2: got to start his college career not at San Diego State,

518
00:25:30,066 --> 00:25:34,146
Speaker 2: but San Diego of old you know Jim Harball.

519
00:25:33,946 --> 00:25:35,346
Speaker 5: Or from Waybreros.

520
00:25:35,626 --> 00:25:36,346
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right.

521
00:25:36,786 --> 00:25:41,906
Speaker 2: So then he transfers to Utah and eventually develops he's

522
00:25:41,946 --> 00:25:45,386
Speaker 2: got that basketball on grass type of mentality where he

523
00:25:45,466 --> 00:25:48,586
Speaker 2: can flex out and be a real weapon for your offense.

524
00:25:48,866 --> 00:25:51,506
Speaker 2: Led the FBS in terms of tight end production with

525
00:25:51,546 --> 00:25:55,026
Speaker 2: about eight hundred and ninety almost nine hundred yards, and

526
00:25:55,186 --> 00:25:57,226
Speaker 2: he didn't really even become the focal point of their

527
00:25:57,266 --> 00:26:01,226
Speaker 2: offense at Utah until Brent Keithy went down another player

528
00:26:01,306 --> 00:26:04,146
Speaker 2: on their offense. But I will say Kincaid and Cam

529
00:26:04,266 --> 00:26:08,706
Speaker 2: Rising had a an amazing rapport between the two of them.

530
00:26:09,146 --> 00:26:10,946
Speaker 2: And this is a team that just went to back

531
00:26:11,026 --> 00:26:14,146
Speaker 2: to back Rose Bowls, by the way, and you know,

532
00:26:14,466 --> 00:26:18,226
Speaker 2: I'm a big fan of Kincaid. I could easily see

533
00:26:18,306 --> 00:26:20,466
Speaker 2: him being the best tight end in this draft. He's

534
00:26:20,546 --> 00:26:23,226
Speaker 2: not quite as versatile as a guy like Michael Maher

535
00:26:23,466 --> 00:26:27,226
Speaker 2: the tight end at your game, but only because Mayor

536
00:26:27,426 --> 00:26:31,306
Speaker 2: is an excellent blocker. Excellent blocker, Kincaid, probably a better

537
00:26:31,426 --> 00:26:35,346
Speaker 2: receiver mayor probably better all around if you're looking for

538
00:26:35,426 --> 00:26:37,826
Speaker 2: someone to also be kind of a sixth offensive lineman

539
00:26:37,946 --> 00:26:40,026
Speaker 2: and flex out and give you something in space.

540
00:26:40,386 --> 00:26:42,826
Speaker 1: Got it all right? I like that we're fifteen and

541
00:26:43,146 --> 00:26:46,266
Speaker 1: sixteen is the Washington Commanders. What do you got, Joe?

542
00:26:46,506 --> 00:26:46,786
Speaker 3: Okay?

543
00:26:47,426 --> 00:26:55,386
Speaker 2: So, buddy, I think this is a weird pick. Again again,

544
00:26:55,506 --> 00:26:57,946
Speaker 2: I don't love them. I love the lad the first

545
00:26:58,026 --> 00:27:00,746
Speaker 2: it's a weird draft, and so the middle from from

546
00:27:01,186 --> 00:27:05,426
Speaker 2: from the Titans, really the Texans at twelve until we

547
00:27:05,546 --> 00:27:08,346
Speaker 2: get to really like the Seahawks at twenty. You get

548
00:27:08,386 --> 00:27:10,506
Speaker 2: a bunch of teams that need a lot of things

549
00:27:10,706 --> 00:27:13,426
Speaker 2: and players in those areas that are kind of like, uh,

550
00:27:14,226 --> 00:27:16,466
Speaker 2: are we gonna take him? I think there's gonna be

551
00:27:16,506 --> 00:27:18,426
Speaker 2: a lot of waiting until the end of the clock

552
00:27:18,586 --> 00:27:21,186
Speaker 2: trying to trade out. So it's gonna be a long night,

553
00:27:21,306 --> 00:27:23,506
Speaker 2: in particular in the middle of the draft, and they're

554
00:27:23,546 --> 00:27:25,786
Speaker 2: gonna be waiting, waiting, waiting, and then they'll just kind

555
00:27:25,786 --> 00:27:27,706
Speaker 2: of run up and the like, well, he's kind of

556
00:27:27,746 --> 00:27:30,626
Speaker 2: the best player at our position of need. That being said,

557
00:27:30,946 --> 00:27:34,506
Speaker 2: I think Washington one pick before where he would probably

558
00:27:34,626 --> 00:27:38,106
Speaker 2: want to go. Is gonna take Joey Porter Jick corner

559
00:27:38,186 --> 00:27:39,026
Speaker 2: from Penn State.

560
00:27:39,386 --> 00:27:44,026
Speaker 1: Okay, take it. I think I read the stat he

561
00:27:44,026 --> 00:27:46,986
Speaker 1: had one interception at Penn State, but he's only thrown

562
00:27:47,026 --> 00:27:48,466
Speaker 1: at thirty times last year.

563
00:27:48,666 --> 00:27:52,266
Speaker 3: So make what you do with that aggressive.

564
00:27:52,706 --> 00:27:55,546
Speaker 1: I'm gonna stick at corner. You go sixteen, you go corner,

565
00:27:55,586 --> 00:27:58,026
Speaker 1: I go seventeen at corner. That means four corners, which

566
00:27:58,026 --> 00:28:00,986
Speaker 1: has become a premium position in the league. I'm gonna

567
00:28:01,026 --> 00:28:04,266
Speaker 1: go corner for the Pittsburgh Steelers. Deontay Banks at.

568
00:28:04,186 --> 00:28:07,866
Speaker 3: A Maryland man. Okay, wow, see this is you know

569
00:28:07,946 --> 00:28:10,146
Speaker 3: what's happening right now, and it always happens.

570
00:28:09,866 --> 00:28:11,626
Speaker 1: When you guys go quicker than you thought.

571
00:28:11,706 --> 00:28:14,226
Speaker 2: Right, It's exactly right because it creates a run. And

572
00:28:14,346 --> 00:28:16,506
Speaker 2: this is what happens in the draft, right, it creates

573
00:28:16,546 --> 00:28:19,746
Speaker 2: a run on absolutely, So we've already had now a

574
00:28:19,906 --> 00:28:23,986
Speaker 2: run on two different positions. Right, offensive line and corner

575
00:28:24,306 --> 00:28:27,386
Speaker 2: have come off maybe faster than we anticipated if we

576
00:28:27,466 --> 00:28:28,506
Speaker 2: were doing this on our own.

577
00:28:29,746 --> 00:28:31,866
Speaker 1: I'm looking at it right now. Just for the listeners,

578
00:28:31,906 --> 00:28:35,986
Speaker 1: We'll go from eleven on. So eleven was Paris Johnson

579
00:28:36,186 --> 00:28:37,986
Speaker 1: which is a shock to everyone that they would go

580
00:28:38,026 --> 00:28:39,826
Speaker 1: oh line instead of quarterback. I just don't know if

581
00:28:39,906 --> 00:28:43,506
Speaker 1: Levis or Hooker is what they're looking to do. Texans

582
00:28:43,586 --> 00:28:48,506
Speaker 1: twelve wide receiver Jackson Smith NIJIGBA Jets thirteen, Broderick Jones

583
00:28:48,546 --> 00:28:53,746
Speaker 1: offensive tackle, fourteen Patriots Darnel Wright offensive tackle, Packers, Dalton

584
00:28:53,866 --> 00:28:59,026
Speaker 1: Kincaid tight end, Commander's Joey Porter junior corner, Steelers at seventeen,

585
00:28:59,106 --> 00:29:01,506
Speaker 1: Deontay Banks corner. Now we are up to the Lions

586
00:29:02,626 --> 00:29:03,986
Speaker 1: at eighteen. Joel, you're on the.

587
00:29:03,986 --> 00:29:07,026
Speaker 2: Clock, all right, little bit of a free pick here, right,

588
00:29:07,186 --> 00:29:11,466
Speaker 2: because I think that they got I like what they

589
00:29:11,506 --> 00:29:14,866
Speaker 2: got with Gonzales, and think about this, adding a really

590
00:29:15,066 --> 00:29:19,386
Speaker 2: disruptive interior lineman. And now all of a sudden you've

591
00:29:19,466 --> 00:29:22,226
Speaker 2: got Hutchinson, which you really like, I would, you know,

592
00:29:22,586 --> 00:29:25,066
Speaker 2: excellent player, and then you pair him with a pass

593
00:29:25,186 --> 00:29:30,706
Speaker 2: rushing tackle Elijah Kntsey from Pitt, Okay. The guy had

594
00:29:30,786 --> 00:29:33,706
Speaker 2: huge production. By the way you look at his career.

595
00:29:34,106 --> 00:29:37,066
Speaker 2: He played in thirty six games at Pitt, thirty seven

596
00:29:37,186 --> 00:29:40,546
Speaker 2: tackles for loss. That's a tackle for loss per game,

597
00:29:40,586 --> 00:29:41,346
Speaker 2: which is unheard of.

598
00:29:41,826 --> 00:29:44,506
Speaker 1: Two and eighty pound defensive tackle. Are we a little

599
00:29:44,506 --> 00:29:45,826
Speaker 1: worried about that? Are we okay with that?

600
00:29:46,226 --> 00:29:49,386
Speaker 2: When you're producing like that? And he's the first unanimous

601
00:29:49,426 --> 00:29:52,546
Speaker 2: All American at PITT since Aaron Donald, the guy that

602
00:29:52,626 --> 00:29:55,266
Speaker 2: we all love. Maybe in the same type of mold

603
00:29:55,746 --> 00:29:59,066
Speaker 2: quickness and power both. He's not three hundred pounds, but

604
00:29:59,146 --> 00:30:01,666
Speaker 2: from the three tech position on the outside shade of

605
00:30:01,746 --> 00:30:04,906
Speaker 2: the guard, he can produce a lot of numbers in

606
00:30:04,986 --> 00:30:05,586
Speaker 2: the backfield.

607
00:30:06,106 --> 00:30:09,186
Speaker 1: All right, nineteen Will Levis is still on the board

608
00:30:09,226 --> 00:30:13,506
Speaker 1: and the Buccaneers are there, But gosh, they've invested in

609
00:30:13,586 --> 00:30:20,146
Speaker 1: Kyle Trask. They I'm really having a hard time here.

610
00:30:20,306 --> 00:30:21,906
Speaker 1: Do they really want to take a quarterback and then

611
00:30:21,946 --> 00:30:24,466
Speaker 1: put themselves in this bind where they got the fourth

612
00:30:24,586 --> 00:30:27,746
Speaker 1: quarterback and they did it at nineteen? Where do they

613
00:30:27,786 --> 00:30:29,266
Speaker 1: want to go? I mean, it's like, this is the

614
00:30:29,346 --> 00:30:31,546
Speaker 1: questions you're asking. You're like, is it so good of

615
00:30:31,626 --> 00:30:32,146
Speaker 1: a value?

616
00:30:32,386 --> 00:30:34,706
Speaker 2: I think this is the worst pick in the draft.

617
00:30:35,266 --> 00:30:38,946
Speaker 2: I said that every time I did the mock for myself.

618
00:30:39,026 --> 00:30:40,186
Speaker 2: I got the nineteen and I.

619
00:30:40,306 --> 00:30:45,186
Speaker 6: Was just like, I I don't know, yeah, and I

620
00:30:45,226 --> 00:30:48,946
Speaker 6: don't think there's any Let me ask you this, Yeah,

621
00:30:49,506 --> 00:30:53,986
Speaker 6: what do you think the Bucks need the most offensive line, and.

622
00:30:54,026 --> 00:30:56,426
Speaker 2: They've already had a run of offensive linemen. This happened

623
00:30:56,466 --> 00:30:58,826
Speaker 2: in my own mock right, like, I think you're reaching

624
00:30:58,986 --> 00:31:01,946
Speaker 2: at offensive line if you take one right here, shregs,

625
00:31:02,186 --> 00:31:05,426
Speaker 2: because you've already had the run on the top offensive lineman.

626
00:31:05,746 --> 00:31:08,026
Speaker 1: I know, I know. And now, like the clock is

627
00:31:08,106 --> 00:31:11,986
Speaker 1: like up right now. And oh and I'm literally on

628
00:31:12,106 --> 00:31:16,106
Speaker 1: the internet like googling, like you know, a top offensive lineman,

629
00:31:16,306 --> 00:31:17,706
Speaker 1: like this is an embarrassing.

630
00:31:17,266 --> 00:31:21,466
Speaker 3: You're looking at something like Osiris Torrance at nineteen.

631
00:31:21,586 --> 00:31:24,066
Speaker 1: I can't do that. I'm actually I mean, is this

632
00:31:24,106 --> 00:31:27,026
Speaker 1: what happens in the front offices? They start googling when

633
00:31:27,026 --> 00:31:27,986
Speaker 1: they're on the clock.

634
00:31:29,186 --> 00:31:29,746
Speaker 3: Isn't this one?

635
00:31:29,786 --> 00:31:31,986
Speaker 2: They just take the best player available. They just look

636
00:31:31,986 --> 00:31:33,626
Speaker 2: at their board and they're just like take him.

637
00:31:34,946 --> 00:31:38,746
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, So let's just go through it.

638
00:31:38,826 --> 00:31:38,986
Speaker 4: Here.

639
00:31:39,346 --> 00:31:42,826
Speaker 1: You got Michael Mayer, You've got Nolan Smith, who's kind

640
00:31:42,826 --> 00:31:44,986
Speaker 1: of slipped here in our draft. You've got Will Levis,

641
00:31:49,946 --> 00:31:55,586
Speaker 1: give me Michael Mayer. Tight end, tight end, I mean,

642
00:31:55,626 --> 00:31:57,506
Speaker 1: they've really taking a tight tight end to the bucks.

643
00:31:57,546 --> 00:31:59,386
Speaker 1: Did not see that happening before we started this, But

644
00:31:59,466 --> 00:32:01,266
Speaker 1: tight end to the bucks. Michael Mayer at a Notre

645
00:32:01,346 --> 00:32:04,346
Speaker 1: Dame goes nineteenth overall, did not see that.

646
00:32:05,266 --> 00:32:08,746
Speaker 2: Dude, wouldn't Seattle so excited if this happened, because.

647
00:32:08,746 --> 00:32:10,986
Speaker 1: Levis is sitting there if they want them or Hooker.

648
00:32:12,306 --> 00:32:15,946
Speaker 2: And that's I did not see that happening. I thought

649
00:32:15,986 --> 00:32:17,986
Speaker 2: that they were going to go edge here. But that's

650
00:32:18,026 --> 00:32:20,666
Speaker 2: because I didn't give them edge at five. You gave

651
00:32:20,746 --> 00:32:24,106
Speaker 2: them edge here. So to recap at five, Peter, you

652
00:32:24,146 --> 00:32:28,626
Speaker 2: gave them Tyree Wilson. Correct, Yeah, okay, so Tyree's at five.

653
00:32:29,666 --> 00:32:31,746
Speaker 2: I would have gone like a Nolan Smith or a

654
00:32:31,826 --> 00:32:34,226
Speaker 2: Miles Murphy there, but they already got like they're not

655
00:32:34,266 --> 00:32:37,266
Speaker 2: going to take two edge rushers. I think Seattle goes

656
00:32:37,346 --> 00:32:43,426
Speaker 2: quarterback there, So which one? Now, it's what I would

657
00:32:43,506 --> 00:32:46,026
Speaker 2: do versus what I think they'll do. I would take

658
00:32:46,106 --> 00:32:46,746
Speaker 2: hindon Hooker.

659
00:32:47,146 --> 00:32:49,426
Speaker 1: Really, I'll make that argument because I think a lot

660
00:32:49,426 --> 00:32:50,906
Speaker 1: of people are in the league are saying that more

661
00:32:50,946 --> 00:32:54,426
Speaker 1: and more and Hooker over Levis is. Hooker's twenty six

662
00:32:54,546 --> 00:32:57,426
Speaker 1: years old with a torn up ACL. It's tough to swallow.

663
00:32:58,066 --> 00:33:02,506
Speaker 2: Hooker also just set the completion percentage record at Tennessee

664
00:33:02,666 --> 00:33:05,426
Speaker 2: in a downfield passing offense. You know, this was not

665
00:33:05,666 --> 00:33:08,786
Speaker 2: just a bunch of of flip screens and like so

666
00:33:09,346 --> 00:33:12,346
Speaker 2: the offense that he ran at Tennessee is very similar

667
00:33:12,466 --> 00:33:15,266
Speaker 2: to the Baylor offense under Art Briles back from the

668
00:33:15,586 --> 00:33:18,866
Speaker 2: you know, the early teens and then two thousand, Yeah,

669
00:33:18,906 --> 00:33:21,266
Speaker 2: the Bryce Petty days, the RG three days, and it's

670
00:33:21,346 --> 00:33:24,546
Speaker 2: predicated on half field reads, which isn't great, but half

671
00:33:24,586 --> 00:33:28,266
Speaker 2: field reads and then post snap wide receiver read routes,

672
00:33:28,506 --> 00:33:31,426
Speaker 2: deep read routes. Okay, so they run kind of from

673
00:33:31,546 --> 00:33:34,626
Speaker 2: a two receiver set, and Jalen Hyatt in this case,

674
00:33:34,666 --> 00:33:37,626
Speaker 2: who had a phenomenal year Blittankough Award winner, he would

675
00:33:37,666 --> 00:33:39,626
Speaker 2: read the coverage and he could take it vertical or

676
00:33:40,026 --> 00:33:41,666
Speaker 2: hook it up and run it kind of a ten

677
00:33:41,746 --> 00:33:45,986
Speaker 2: yard hook and hooker. His whole job was to not

678
00:33:46,226 --> 00:33:48,786
Speaker 2: retreat in the pocket, wait and have patients and then

679
00:33:48,866 --> 00:33:50,826
Speaker 2: be on the same page with the wide receiver and

680
00:33:50,946 --> 00:33:53,786
Speaker 2: then from that what I would call the short area

681
00:33:54,146 --> 00:33:57,906
Speaker 2: in the pocket. He had to have great accuracy down

682
00:33:57,946 --> 00:34:01,186
Speaker 2: the field and anticipation in this post snap read route

683
00:34:01,586 --> 00:34:03,786
Speaker 2: really hard to be efficient in and he threw for

684
00:34:03,866 --> 00:34:07,026
Speaker 2: over seventy percent. So I think NFL of evaluators are

685
00:34:07,066 --> 00:34:08,306
Speaker 2: going to look at this and be like, man, this

686
00:34:08,426 --> 00:34:11,346
Speaker 2: guy is not intimidated to push the ball down the field.

687
00:34:11,426 --> 00:34:14,626
Speaker 2: He threw it very accurately. He's very mature. He got

688
00:34:14,706 --> 00:34:17,026
Speaker 2: better every single year, and he was the reason that

689
00:34:17,186 --> 00:34:19,346
Speaker 2: this program in Tennessee was able to get over the

690
00:34:19,426 --> 00:34:22,106
Speaker 2: hump and actually beat Alabama. So he was great in

691
00:34:22,226 --> 00:34:25,946
Speaker 2: big games, in particular in that Alabama game. And when

692
00:34:25,986 --> 00:34:28,586
Speaker 2: you measure that against Will Levis, and you look at

693
00:34:28,626 --> 00:34:32,026
Speaker 2: the turnovers for Levis, you look at Levis's history being

694
00:34:32,306 --> 00:34:34,826
Speaker 2: maybe not even a dominant high school player, losing a

695
00:34:34,906 --> 00:34:37,986
Speaker 2: job to Sean Clifford, not really being dominated at Kentucky.

696
00:34:38,666 --> 00:34:43,266
Speaker 2: Those turnovers, like I said, and some boneheaded mistakes on

697
00:34:43,426 --> 00:34:46,426
Speaker 2: the field not off because Levis is a terrific person.

698
00:34:47,426 --> 00:34:49,866
Speaker 2: I think they go hendon Hooker, So a long dissertation

699
00:34:49,986 --> 00:34:51,386
Speaker 2: there to land on Hooker.

700
00:34:52,066 --> 00:34:54,626
Speaker 1: Twenty one's the Chargers, and I think they'd be really

701
00:34:54,746 --> 00:34:57,106
Speaker 1: happy with how this worked out. They don't need a quarterback,

702
00:34:57,706 --> 00:35:01,306
Speaker 1: and I'm looking at three names. I'm looking at Lucas

703
00:35:01,386 --> 00:35:03,226
Speaker 1: van Ness, who has now slipped all the way here.

704
00:35:03,266 --> 00:35:05,946
Speaker 1: I'm looking at Nolan Smith, who has slipped all the

705
00:35:05,986 --> 00:35:08,866
Speaker 1: way here. But I think they might give their guy,

706
00:35:09,066 --> 00:35:12,546
Speaker 1: another pass catcher. I'm gonna go Jordan Addison out of

707
00:35:12,826 --> 00:35:17,026
Speaker 1: USC to the LA Chargers. He stays close to home.

708
00:35:17,226 --> 00:35:20,226
Speaker 1: And another pass catcher for Justin Herbert.

709
00:35:20,466 --> 00:35:23,226
Speaker 2: I thought you were gonna go Quinton Johnston there, just

710
00:35:23,306 --> 00:35:24,866
Speaker 2: to give him an outside target.

711
00:35:25,186 --> 00:35:25,866
Speaker 3: That's interesting.

712
00:35:26,426 --> 00:35:28,826
Speaker 1: You are up with the Ravens at twenty two and

713
00:35:28,946 --> 00:35:30,746
Speaker 1: we have a quarterback still on the board.

714
00:35:33,746 --> 00:35:36,386
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh. If this happens, the ratings are going

715
00:35:36,466 --> 00:35:39,666
Speaker 3: to be through the roof right on the board.

716
00:35:39,826 --> 00:35:43,506
Speaker 1: But does levis I feel like there are more guys.

717
00:35:44,266 --> 00:35:47,866
Speaker 2: There are guys that fit the Ravens, and they are

718
00:35:47,986 --> 00:35:52,546
Speaker 2: such Ravens picks. Okay, I'm going Nolan Smith, edge player

719
00:35:52,626 --> 00:35:55,346
Speaker 2: from Georgia, and everyone's going to be like, of course,

720
00:35:55,626 --> 00:35:59,106
Speaker 2: Baltimore got Nolan Smith. Everyone loves Nolan Smith in this draft.

721
00:35:59,146 --> 00:36:03,426
Speaker 2: He's productive anchor alpha of the best defense in college

722
00:36:03,426 --> 00:36:05,466
Speaker 2: football over the last two years. And I think he's

723
00:36:05,506 --> 00:36:08,026
Speaker 2: a good scheme fit for what Mike McDonald does at

724
00:36:08,106 --> 00:36:11,386
Speaker 2: Baltimore because of what Georgia does and kind of an

725
00:36:11,426 --> 00:36:13,146
Speaker 2: odd defense, and he can play the edge as a

726
00:36:13,186 --> 00:36:13,906
Speaker 2: stand up player.

727
00:36:14,426 --> 00:36:15,786
Speaker 3: I'm going Nolan Smith.

728
00:36:17,066 --> 00:36:19,866
Speaker 1: Which gives me the vikings. I don't think Will Levis

729
00:36:19,986 --> 00:36:22,306
Speaker 1: is what the Vikings are doing. But we need to

730
00:36:22,346 --> 00:36:24,386
Speaker 1: get Bill Levis off the board in the first round.

731
00:36:24,706 --> 00:36:26,626
Speaker 2: I mean this is where if Levis is there, you

732
00:36:26,626 --> 00:36:28,546
Speaker 2: would be thinking about like someone's trading.

733
00:36:28,586 --> 00:36:35,186
Speaker 1: Someone's trading back up to Lucas van Ness is like

734
00:36:35,266 --> 00:36:42,386
Speaker 1: a Iowa Minnesota, like on the carpet. Give me Will

735
00:36:42,466 --> 00:36:46,186
Speaker 1: Levis here at twenty three. Wow, with an asterisk in

736
00:36:47,106 --> 00:36:49,506
Speaker 1: that this pick will be swapped to somebody else.

737
00:36:49,986 --> 00:36:53,186
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good asterisk.

738
00:36:53,266 --> 00:36:54,226
Speaker 1: We got him off the board.

739
00:36:55,746 --> 00:36:57,626
Speaker 3: That was more about getting him off the board.

740
00:36:58,386 --> 00:37:00,426
Speaker 1: I can't go a whole round without him being drafted.

741
00:37:00,506 --> 00:37:03,346
Speaker 1: So there you go, Levis, Your night is over.

742
00:37:04,066 --> 00:37:07,506
Speaker 3: All, Right, Jags, Let's see what we got available here?

743
00:37:08,106 --> 00:37:10,666
Speaker 3: M what do we think that, what do we love?

744
00:37:10,746 --> 00:37:14,466
Speaker 3: What do we think the Jags need? I'm looking here.

745
00:37:14,866 --> 00:37:18,946
Speaker 1: Surprisingly, the Jaguars are pretty much well loaded at each position,

746
00:37:19,146 --> 00:37:20,706
Speaker 1: and they're set up for the future, So you could

747
00:37:20,746 --> 00:37:22,346
Speaker 1: really go best player available here.

748
00:37:22,786 --> 00:37:27,746
Speaker 2: If if that's the case. In my mock, I had

749
00:37:27,786 --> 00:37:30,266
Speaker 2: him taking Brian Branch, you know, but I'm not going

750
00:37:30,346 --> 00:37:34,146
Speaker 2: to do that here. Okay, I do like Brian Branch,

751
00:37:34,226 --> 00:37:39,226
Speaker 2: Though's really good. I'm going to stay there. I'll stay there.

752
00:37:39,346 --> 00:37:41,666
Speaker 2: I'll go Brian Branch. He's one of the names that

753
00:37:41,746 --> 00:37:43,706
Speaker 2: I'm hearing. I'm sure you're hearing, like I think he's

754
00:37:43,906 --> 00:37:46,906
Speaker 2: He's a first round guy. He can kind of play

755
00:37:47,026 --> 00:37:52,626
Speaker 2: Nickel played the kind of that that hybrid safety position

756
00:37:52,746 --> 00:37:58,266
Speaker 2: that Minka Fitzpatrick played at Alabama. Their smartest player, They've

757
00:37:58,306 --> 00:38:00,346
Speaker 2: told me, by the way, like Brian's going to know

758
00:38:00,426 --> 00:38:03,186
Speaker 2: the defense better than some of the veterans in camp.

759
00:38:03,786 --> 00:38:06,386
Speaker 2: Like that's how smart he is. So I'll go Brian Branch.

760
00:38:06,786 --> 00:38:12,586
Speaker 1: Okay, Giants, I'm here in this backyard. The Saquon thing

761
00:38:12,706 --> 00:38:15,386
Speaker 1: is at a standstill. Jamir Gibbs is sitting right there.

762
00:38:15,466 --> 00:38:17,186
Speaker 1: But I also know they want to get Can you

763
00:38:17,266 --> 00:38:20,746
Speaker 1: imagine Daniel Jones another wide receiver. Let's have fun, Jamir Gibbs,

764
00:38:20,946 --> 00:38:24,586
Speaker 1: Alabama goes to the Giants at twenty five, have your

765
00:38:24,626 --> 00:38:26,106
Speaker 1: franchise tag and enjoy.

766
00:38:25,946 --> 00:38:28,346
Speaker 3: It, buddy. Can you imagine.

767
00:38:28,466 --> 00:38:30,626
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's how the NFL works. It's a brutal business,

768
00:38:30,786 --> 00:38:30,986
Speaker 1: it is.

769
00:38:32,586 --> 00:38:34,626
Speaker 3: By the way, I love Gibbs. I love his game.

770
00:38:35,586 --> 00:38:38,266
Speaker 3: He's not quite Saquon, but boy's versaally can catch it.

771
00:38:38,466 --> 00:38:38,706
Speaker 3: I like.

772
00:38:38,866 --> 00:38:49,666
Speaker 5: I like that okay, all right, cowboys, Oh cowboys, did.

773
00:38:49,546 --> 00:38:50,386
Speaker 3: You take vanes s?

774
00:38:51,546 --> 00:38:52,946
Speaker 1: I did not. He's still on the board.

775
00:38:56,986 --> 00:38:59,066
Speaker 2: Do you just go defense here and like load up

776
00:38:59,106 --> 00:39:02,306
Speaker 2: and you've got like Micah rushing and Vaness rushing and

777
00:39:02,386 --> 00:39:04,146
Speaker 2: then you just create, like, hey, how do you beat

778
00:39:04,226 --> 00:39:04,906
Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts?

779
00:39:05,266 --> 00:39:08,466
Speaker 3: You just follow him up. That's a lot of sense.

780
00:39:08,746 --> 00:39:11,386
Speaker 3: That's where Lucas van Ness from from Iowa.

781
00:39:12,026 --> 00:39:14,066
Speaker 1: I had van Ness and the top ten pick when

782
00:39:14,106 --> 00:39:16,786
Speaker 1: we started this whole thing, and I he said nothing

783
00:39:16,866 --> 00:39:19,106
Speaker 1: wrong from now to that. But to go to twenty six,

784
00:39:19,226 --> 00:39:21,506
Speaker 1: it's like just how the draft shuck out? Just what

785
00:39:21,626 --> 00:39:25,746
Speaker 1: it is. Uh, Bill's give me Quintin Johnson. Give me

786
00:39:25,786 --> 00:39:28,426
Speaker 1: a big outside receiver to go at digs and those guys.

787
00:39:28,546 --> 00:39:33,186
Speaker 2: Quentin Johnson, he's a downfield like uh I would call

788
00:39:33,266 --> 00:39:36,506
Speaker 2: him like a combat catch specialist.

789
00:39:36,186 --> 00:39:38,346
Speaker 1: Who's a good comp in the NFL for him.

790
00:39:38,626 --> 00:39:40,186
Speaker 3: I'm really bad at that trip.

791
00:39:40,306 --> 00:39:43,026
Speaker 1: Yeah, So what's like, He's just he's sixteen.

792
00:39:42,906 --> 00:39:47,386
Speaker 3: Lengthy, six to two, can jump. Not the cleanest route runner.

793
00:39:47,346 --> 00:39:50,666
Speaker 1: And Mike Williams there is not that's all like not.

794
00:39:50,786 --> 00:39:51,466
Speaker 3: Quite that tall.

795
00:39:51,706 --> 00:39:53,946
Speaker 2: He can make the easy catch look hard and then

796
00:39:54,026 --> 00:39:57,106
Speaker 2: the hard catch look really easy hockey Nicks.

797
00:39:57,146 --> 00:39:57,586
Speaker 1: How about that?

798
00:39:57,866 --> 00:40:02,426
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's I'm not bad. I wouldn't complain about that.

799
00:40:02,666 --> 00:40:05,106
Speaker 2: Johnston would be perfect for Josh Allen though. You talk

800
00:40:05,146 --> 00:40:07,826
Speaker 2: about like give Josh one of those players that he

801
00:40:07,906 --> 00:40:10,346
Speaker 2: can just be like, I'm gonna throw it up as

802
00:40:10,506 --> 00:40:12,826
Speaker 2: as far as I can and this guy's gonna come

803
00:40:12,866 --> 00:40:13,266
Speaker 2: down with it.

804
00:40:13,346 --> 00:40:16,106
Speaker 3: That would be Johnston. All right? Where am I now? Bengals?

805
00:40:18,226 --> 00:40:20,146
Speaker 2: I mean, do we do we protect him or do

806
00:40:20,266 --> 00:40:22,786
Speaker 2: we give him a threat? The age old question, right,

807
00:40:24,266 --> 00:40:29,026
Speaker 2: protect him or do we give him a threat? I

808
00:40:29,146 --> 00:40:31,986
Speaker 2: don't love the offensive lineman there, so it's it's probably

809
00:40:32,106 --> 00:40:33,266
Speaker 2: threat or defense.

810
00:40:35,946 --> 00:40:37,386
Speaker 1: I love bit noise. We both made it.

811
00:40:37,826 --> 00:40:40,626
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's to.

812
00:40:40,746 --> 00:40:45,626
Speaker 2: Me, it's either Zay or Darnell Washington. It's either Zay

813
00:40:45,706 --> 00:40:49,386
Speaker 2: Flowers or Darnell Washington. And I don't think that they

814
00:40:49,466 --> 00:40:51,866
Speaker 2: need a wide receiver. And Darnell can help in the

815
00:40:51,986 --> 00:40:54,786
Speaker 2: run game because he can act as a sixth offensive

816
00:40:54,866 --> 00:40:58,466
Speaker 2: lineman dominant blocker. I'll go Darnell Washington, the tight end

817
00:40:58,506 --> 00:40:59,066
Speaker 2: from Georgia.

818
00:40:59,426 --> 00:41:06,386
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, Darnell Washington over Sam Laporta out of Iowa.

819
00:41:06,706 --> 00:41:08,506
Speaker 1: Do you know Laporta's game at all I do.

820
00:41:08,706 --> 00:41:09,066
Speaker 4: I know it.

821
00:41:09,226 --> 00:41:12,266
Speaker 2: Well, he's Washington's a better blocker, so you can help

822
00:41:12,346 --> 00:41:15,106
Speaker 2: a run game out with Washington as well as get

823
00:41:15,186 --> 00:41:19,626
Speaker 2: some of the production Laporta. I like Laporta, but he's

824
00:41:19,746 --> 00:41:22,426
Speaker 2: not as dominant at the point of attack. Is that

825
00:41:22,546 --> 00:41:24,426
Speaker 2: a name that you're hearing as like the first rounder?

826
00:41:25,346 --> 00:41:27,866
Speaker 1: Potentially the tight end group is like Kincaid and Mayer,

827
00:41:28,026 --> 00:41:31,946
Speaker 1: and you can flip those and it's Washington, Laporta and

828
00:41:32,106 --> 00:41:34,386
Speaker 1: Musgrave is getting a lot of lovely.

829
00:41:34,346 --> 00:41:37,946
Speaker 2: Luke Muskrave from Oregon State, by the way, you know what,

830
00:41:38,026 --> 00:41:43,186
Speaker 2: Luke Musgrave great skier as a kid, great skier in Oregon.

831
00:41:43,226 --> 00:41:44,906
Speaker 3: You wouldn't think about that. But he went up to

832
00:41:45,186 --> 00:41:47,466
Speaker 3: Mount Hood. He was on like a junior ski team.

833
00:41:47,826 --> 00:41:49,906
Speaker 3: And then his uncle is is Bill.

834
00:41:50,866 --> 00:42:02,866
Speaker 1: Yeah, great offensive coordinator for many years in the league. Okay,

835
00:42:02,986 --> 00:42:05,066
Speaker 1: I love this mock draft so far. Let me recap

836
00:42:05,186 --> 00:42:08,226
Speaker 1: real quick from twenty on.

837
00:42:08,586 --> 00:42:11,866
Speaker 3: So Buck, this is a tandem is hard.

838
00:42:12,186 --> 00:42:14,066
Speaker 1: It's great, isn't it? Because it's like it doesn't fit

839
00:42:14,226 --> 00:42:18,346
Speaker 1: your own puzzle. You have to adjust. Nineteen the Buccaneers

840
00:42:18,466 --> 00:42:21,306
Speaker 1: in a bind where I literally was googling top one

841
00:42:21,346 --> 00:42:23,506
Speaker 1: hundred players in draft because I didn't know what the

842
00:42:23,586 --> 00:42:27,026
Speaker 1: hell to do. Michael Mayer tight end Notre Dame. That

843
00:42:27,146 --> 00:42:31,906
Speaker 1: was nineteen twenty Seahawks Hendon Hooker, quarterback Tennessee.

844
00:42:31,786 --> 00:42:33,426
Speaker 3: Oh that would explode the draft.

845
00:42:33,826 --> 00:42:38,786
Speaker 1: Chargers twenty one. Jordan Addison wide receiver, USC Ravens twenty two.

846
00:42:39,666 --> 00:42:43,746
Speaker 1: Nolan Smith goes with fellow Georgia Bulldog Rokwan Smith to

847
00:42:43,826 --> 00:42:47,306
Speaker 1: the Ravens. Twenty two. Will Levis twenty three to the

848
00:42:47,426 --> 00:42:52,706
Speaker 1: Vikings with a giant asterisk likely traded. Twenty four Jaguars

849
00:42:52,946 --> 00:42:57,506
Speaker 1: Brian Branch, twenty five, Giants, Jamiir Gibs out of Alabama,

850
00:42:57,946 --> 00:43:02,426
Speaker 1: twenty six Cowboys Lucas van Ness out of Iowa, twenty seven, Bills,

851
00:43:02,506 --> 00:43:08,066
Speaker 1: Quinton Johnson twenty eight Darnell Washington Saints at twenty nine.

852
00:43:08,346 --> 00:43:14,306
Speaker 1: I will go Say Flowers out of Boston College. Just

853
00:43:14,386 --> 00:43:18,746
Speaker 1: a playmaker, and I feel like he has done really

854
00:43:18,786 --> 00:43:20,586
Speaker 1: well in the pre draft process. I don't want to

855
00:43:20,586 --> 00:43:26,026
Speaker 1: get the number wrong. I think he's one of eight siblings.

856
00:43:26,506 --> 00:43:27,786
Speaker 1: It could be more than.

857
00:43:27,706 --> 00:43:30,506
Speaker 3: That, and it is it is more. I've got it's

858
00:43:30,586 --> 00:43:33,146
Speaker 3: fourteen fourteen siblings.

859
00:43:33,186 --> 00:43:33,626
Speaker 1: I think he's the.

860
00:43:33,986 --> 00:43:39,106
Speaker 2: Eleventh of eleventh, ten boys, four girls, his mom actually

861
00:43:39,226 --> 00:43:41,346
Speaker 2: passed away in two thousand and five.

862
00:43:41,626 --> 00:43:43,466
Speaker 3: Was he was raised primarily by his father.

863
00:43:43,986 --> 00:43:47,026
Speaker 1: Wow, what a family story for him to make it

864
00:43:47,106 --> 00:43:50,146
Speaker 1: to the NFL first round pick and gosh, the Saints

865
00:43:51,626 --> 00:43:55,306
Speaker 1: obviously have talent all over the field, but they are

866
00:43:55,826 --> 00:43:57,946
Speaker 1: always looking for another weapon. Derek Carr would be more

867
00:43:57,986 --> 00:44:00,466
Speaker 1: than happy to get Save Flowers. We have two picks

868
00:44:00,546 --> 00:44:02,706
Speaker 1: left in the first round and several guys who have

869
00:44:02,826 --> 00:44:06,386
Speaker 1: been mocked to first rounds throughout everyone else's mock draft.

870
00:44:06,506 --> 00:44:08,906
Speaker 1: But we're gonna go Eagles at thirty. Joe Klatt, you're

871
00:44:08,946 --> 00:44:09,626
Speaker 1: on the board.

872
00:44:09,666 --> 00:44:16,706
Speaker 2: So this you would have to tell me? Would they

873
00:44:16,746 --> 00:44:18,386
Speaker 2: go tackle defensive tackle?

874
00:44:19,306 --> 00:44:22,986
Speaker 1: Defense? They got Jordan Davis last year. Jalen Carter would

875
00:44:22,986 --> 00:44:24,306
Speaker 1: be one, but I don't know if they would go

876
00:44:24,386 --> 00:44:27,106
Speaker 1: for like a third tier defensive tackle in the first

877
00:44:27,226 --> 00:44:28,986
Speaker 1: round they get, you know.

878
00:44:29,026 --> 00:44:30,146
Speaker 3: What, I like a guy.

879
00:44:30,186 --> 00:44:32,546
Speaker 2: You know I'm gonna go this is this is actually

880
00:44:32,586 --> 00:44:35,586
Speaker 2: a good fit here because you could argue that, like, yeah,

881
00:44:35,626 --> 00:44:38,546
Speaker 2: they could take edge right, a little pass rush, and

882
00:44:38,706 --> 00:44:42,546
Speaker 2: my best available on the board is Miles Murphy from Clemson.

883
00:44:42,706 --> 00:44:45,466
Speaker 2: Take them, So I'm gonna take Miles Murphy from Clemson.

884
00:44:45,826 --> 00:44:51,386
Speaker 1: Miles Murphy from Clemson. All right, weird year because of

885
00:44:51,466 --> 00:44:55,506
Speaker 1: the Dolphins losing a pick. We now just have one

886
00:44:55,626 --> 00:44:58,386
Speaker 1: final pick and it's at thirty one, and it's the

887
00:44:58,506 --> 00:45:05,106
Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs. Can go anywhere here, I've already got.

888
00:45:05,306 --> 00:45:05,386
Speaker 4: Now.

889
00:45:05,506 --> 00:45:07,666
Speaker 1: My sneaky thing is I like the running back to them.

890
00:45:07,786 --> 00:45:09,746
Speaker 1: But I just took him to the Giants at twenty

891
00:45:09,826 --> 00:45:11,066
Speaker 1: five at Gibbs.

892
00:45:11,586 --> 00:45:14,346
Speaker 3: Yeah see, I kept thinking like a Gibbs or is

893
00:45:14,466 --> 00:45:15,746
Speaker 3: a Flowers here?

894
00:45:15,906 --> 00:45:16,906
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah?

895
00:45:17,026 --> 00:45:17,906
Speaker 3: But they're both gone.

896
00:45:18,386 --> 00:45:27,426
Speaker 1: They're both gone. And gosh, wow, a little early for

897
00:45:27,586 --> 00:45:29,786
Speaker 1: my guy Mingo, who I've been pumping up a little

898
00:45:29,826 --> 00:45:33,586
Speaker 1: early for my guy Marvin Mims, a little early for

899
00:45:33,746 --> 00:45:36,226
Speaker 1: Josh Downs. I'm looking at the wide receivers here.

900
00:45:36,466 --> 00:45:38,266
Speaker 3: What about a Jalen Hyatt.

901
00:45:38,226 --> 00:45:44,466
Speaker 1: Jalen Hyatt? How about this one last pick of the

902
00:45:44,546 --> 00:45:53,346
Speaker 1: first round defensive tackle at a Michigan Mazzie Smith. Wow,

903
00:45:54,466 --> 00:45:56,666
Speaker 1: he called all those Michigan games. Yeah, can you give

904
00:45:56,746 --> 00:45:59,186
Speaker 1: us a little something? He is in no first rounds anywhere,

905
00:45:59,706 --> 00:46:01,666
Speaker 1: and yet there's been some late buzz that he might

906
00:46:02,066 --> 00:46:04,946
Speaker 1: be top forty maybe who knows? Thirty one? What's Mozzi

907
00:46:05,026 --> 00:46:05,546
Speaker 1: Smith's deal?

908
00:46:05,946 --> 00:46:08,506
Speaker 2: So in order to know about Mazi, you got to

909
00:46:08,586 --> 00:46:12,786
Speaker 2: know the intent behind their defensive structure change over the

910
00:46:12,866 --> 00:46:15,506
Speaker 2: last two years. So Jim can't get over the hump

911
00:46:15,586 --> 00:46:17,866
Speaker 2: of Ohio State, right, and he went to his brother

912
00:46:18,026 --> 00:46:20,306
Speaker 2: John and he's like, I got to change defenses. I

913
00:46:20,386 --> 00:46:23,626
Speaker 2: need a coordinator. So John gave him two names. These

914
00:46:23,666 --> 00:46:27,146
Speaker 2: two young coaches who have both worked with John, been

915
00:46:27,186 --> 00:46:30,186
Speaker 2: in the Ravens system. They want to incorporate the Ravens system.

916
00:46:30,266 --> 00:46:33,266
Speaker 2: He gives them these two names, Mike McDonald and Jesse Minter,

917
00:46:34,026 --> 00:46:36,626
Speaker 2: and so Jim interviews them both and says, I like

918
00:46:36,706 --> 00:46:38,746
Speaker 2: them both. And Jim says, well, you got to pick one.

919
00:46:38,786 --> 00:46:41,226
Speaker 2: So he picks Mike and they go on to have

920
00:46:41,306 --> 00:46:43,106
Speaker 2: a great year, go to the playoff, win the Big Ten,

921
00:46:43,186 --> 00:46:44,746
Speaker 2: beat Ohio State, right, and.

922
00:46:44,866 --> 00:46:45,786
Speaker 1: Hes to Baltimore.

923
00:46:46,026 --> 00:46:48,186
Speaker 2: And then Mike goes back to Baltimore to be the

924
00:46:48,266 --> 00:46:49,146
Speaker 2: defensive coordinator.

925
00:46:49,226 --> 00:46:50,066
Speaker 3: So what did Jim do.

926
00:46:50,186 --> 00:46:52,146
Speaker 2: He said, well, I want the other guy. So Jesse

927
00:46:52,306 --> 00:46:55,226
Speaker 2: Mintor comes in after spending one year I believe at Vanderbilt,

928
00:46:55,546 --> 00:46:58,066
Speaker 2: and Jesse Mintter comes in. Doesn't change the scheme because

929
00:46:58,146 --> 00:47:01,666
Speaker 2: the whole thing was to run the Baltimore defense, all right,

930
00:47:02,026 --> 00:47:04,626
Speaker 2: So the Baltimore defense is predicated on, at least at

931
00:47:04,666 --> 00:47:07,826
Speaker 2: the college level. The way Michigan incorporates it is that

932
00:47:07,986 --> 00:47:09,706
Speaker 2: the first thing that you have to do is build

933
00:47:09,746 --> 00:47:12,066
Speaker 2: a run wall. You do that with your defensive tackles.

934
00:47:12,106 --> 00:47:14,506
Speaker 2: You build these guys that you're not asking for production.

935
00:47:14,986 --> 00:47:18,986
Speaker 2: All you're doing is asking for stalemates, big, heavy, thick,

936
00:47:19,386 --> 00:47:21,986
Speaker 2: aggressive guys that you're just gonna You're just gonna steimy

937
00:47:22,066 --> 00:47:24,666
Speaker 2: the offensive line and then let your hybrid players run.

938
00:47:24,746 --> 00:47:26,826
Speaker 2: So then you build hard edges on the outside, guys

939
00:47:26,866 --> 00:47:29,546
Speaker 2: like Aiden Hutchinson, right, Mike Morris from this last year

940
00:47:29,826 --> 00:47:33,786
Speaker 2: that can rush the quarterback, hybrid linebackers, good cover corners

941
00:47:33,826 --> 00:47:35,786
Speaker 2: like DJ Turner, who we're going to hear in this

942
00:47:36,026 --> 00:47:38,626
Speaker 2: draft as a corner for Michigan, and then safeties that

943
00:47:38,706 --> 00:47:40,546
Speaker 2: can run and cover as well. That's kind of the

944
00:47:40,586 --> 00:47:44,666
Speaker 2: Baltimore defense as Michigan incorporates it. So the number one

945
00:47:44,746 --> 00:47:47,426
Speaker 2: thing that they had to find first and foremost was

946
00:47:47,946 --> 00:47:52,226
Speaker 2: a defensive tackle. Mike McDonald and Jesse Mintter walk in,

947
00:47:52,586 --> 00:47:54,906
Speaker 2: and the first thing that they see and notice is

948
00:47:55,426 --> 00:47:58,466
Speaker 2: this defense is gonna work. Not because of Aiden Hutchinson,

949
00:47:58,666 --> 00:48:01,106
Speaker 2: not because of DJ Turner, not because of any of

950
00:48:01,186 --> 00:48:04,346
Speaker 2: these guys, but because of Mazzy Smith over the last

951
00:48:04,386 --> 00:48:07,186
Speaker 2: couple of years, and so Mazi was the anchor of

952
00:48:07,306 --> 00:48:11,066
Speaker 2: this defense to allow everybody else to produce around him

953
00:48:11,386 --> 00:48:13,706
Speaker 2: because of what they asked him to do. He's a

954
00:48:13,746 --> 00:48:17,186
Speaker 2: hard worker, great in the locker room, and all the

955
00:48:17,266 --> 00:48:20,066
Speaker 2: coaches rave about what he is and what he provided

956
00:48:20,186 --> 00:48:22,546
Speaker 2: for them. There's a little backstory about Mazie and the

957
00:48:22,586 --> 00:48:23,586
Speaker 2: Michigan Wolverines.

958
00:48:23,866 --> 00:48:26,386
Speaker 1: Isn't that fun for the listeners? You press a button

959
00:48:26,426 --> 00:48:28,426
Speaker 1: and Joel can just go. And that is why I

960
00:48:28,466 --> 00:48:30,506
Speaker 1: love him, and especially with the big ten guys, because

961
00:48:30,866 --> 00:48:34,106
Speaker 1: when you do a dozen Michigan games over the past

962
00:48:34,146 --> 00:48:36,986
Speaker 1: two years, when you do a dozen Ohio State games,

963
00:48:37,066 --> 00:48:38,666
Speaker 1: you're gonna know stories that no one else does. They're

964
00:48:38,666 --> 00:48:41,226
Speaker 1: gonna have insights no one else does. Now, Aaron, I'm

965
00:48:41,266 --> 00:48:42,786
Speaker 1: gonna let you get back on the mic if you're

966
00:48:42,786 --> 00:48:46,346
Speaker 1: willing to. Can you give us one to thirty one

967
00:48:46,946 --> 00:48:49,346
Speaker 1: recap this thing. I don't want any analysis in between.

968
00:48:49,466 --> 00:48:53,586
Speaker 1: Just give us pick team name, selection and let's let

969
00:48:53,626 --> 00:48:55,826
Speaker 1: it sink in and then Joel will say goodbye afterwards.

970
00:48:56,186 --> 00:48:56,546
Speaker 1: All right?

971
00:48:56,626 --> 00:49:00,106
Speaker 4: To start number one, The Panthers have bryce young quarterback two,

972
00:49:00,226 --> 00:49:03,946
Speaker 4: the Texans take quarterback CJ. Stroud. Cardinals at three, take

973
00:49:03,986 --> 00:49:08,346
Speaker 4: Will Anderson edge. Colts at four, take Anthony Richardson quarterback.

974
00:49:08,546 --> 00:49:12,226
Speaker 4: Seahawks at five, edge rusher Tyree Wilson. Lions at six,

975
00:49:12,346 --> 00:49:16,906
Speaker 4: take Christian Gonzales quarter cornerback. Raiders at seven, take Devin Weatherspoon,

976
00:49:17,146 --> 00:49:20,986
Speaker 4: also a cornerback. Falcons at eight. Take Jalen Carter the

977
00:49:21,066 --> 00:49:25,346
Speaker 4: defensive tackle. The Bears at nine, take Peter Scarnsky offensive line.

978
00:49:25,746 --> 00:49:29,066
Speaker 4: Eagles at ten take Bjeon Robinson the running back. Titans

979
00:49:29,106 --> 00:49:32,866
Speaker 4: at eleven, take Paris Johnson offensive line. Texans at twelve

980
00:49:32,986 --> 00:49:35,706
Speaker 4: take Jackson Smith and jigbu to pair him up with Stroud.

981
00:49:36,226 --> 00:49:40,586
Speaker 4: Jets at thirteen, take Broderick Jones ot. Patriots at fourteen

982
00:49:40,706 --> 00:49:43,586
Speaker 4: take an ot. They take Darnell Wright Packers at fifteen,

983
00:49:43,666 --> 00:49:47,786
Speaker 4: take Dalton Kincaid tight end, Commanders at sixteen, Joey Porter

984
00:49:47,986 --> 00:49:52,386
Speaker 4: junior cornerback. Steelers at seventeen, missing out on Porter junior,

985
00:49:52,426 --> 00:49:57,986
Speaker 4: take Deontay Banks cornerback Lions at eighteen, Elijah Cansey defensive

986
00:49:58,146 --> 00:50:03,066
Speaker 4: tackle nineteen Buccaneers, Michael Meyer tight end Seahawks at twenty,

987
00:50:03,146 --> 00:50:07,186
Speaker 4: Hendon Hooker quarterback Chargers twenty one. Jordan Addison wide receiver,

988
00:50:07,826 --> 00:50:11,426
Speaker 4: Ravens at twenty two. Take Nolan Smith edge rusher Vikings

989
00:50:11,466 --> 00:50:13,986
Speaker 4: at twenty three. Most likely trade the pick away and

990
00:50:14,146 --> 00:50:17,826
Speaker 4: take someone takes Will Levis quarterback. I can get him

991
00:50:17,866 --> 00:50:21,386
Speaker 4: off the board Jaguars at twenty four. Take Brian Branch cornerback,

992
00:50:22,066 --> 00:50:25,586
Speaker 4: Giants at twenty five. Take Jamior Gibbs running back, Cowboys

993
00:50:25,626 --> 00:50:28,506
Speaker 4: at twenty six. Take Lucas van Ness edge rusher, the

994
00:50:28,626 --> 00:50:32,386
Speaker 4: Bills at twenty seven. Take Quenton Johnson wide receiver, Bengals

995
00:50:32,426 --> 00:50:35,386
Speaker 4: at twenty eight. Take Darnell Washington tight end, Saints at

996
00:50:35,426 --> 00:50:39,226
Speaker 4: twenty nine. Take Zay Flowers wide receiver, Eagles at thirty

997
00:50:39,306 --> 00:50:42,106
Speaker 4: take Miles Murphy edge, and the Chiefs close it out

998
00:50:42,146 --> 00:50:44,546
Speaker 4: at thirty one with Mazzy Smith defensive tackle.

999
00:50:45,106 --> 00:50:50,626
Speaker 1: Nicely Don nicely, Don, Joe, I'm exhausted, buddy, that was

1000
00:50:50,746 --> 00:50:53,586
Speaker 1: come on, I want to get a burger or something, Joel,

1001
00:50:54,386 --> 00:50:57,786
Speaker 1: Where can we find your content online? As we head

1002
00:50:57,826 --> 00:51:01,786
Speaker 1: towards the draft and then empty the daily planner? Where

1003
00:51:01,826 --> 00:51:03,266
Speaker 1: can we see you draft weekend?

1004
00:51:03,466 --> 00:51:03,826
Speaker 3: There we go.

1005
00:51:03,946 --> 00:51:07,346
Speaker 2: Okay, so first off, you can follow so everything that

1006
00:51:07,426 --> 00:51:10,226
Speaker 2: I do, you know on a weekly basis at the

1007
00:51:10,306 --> 00:51:12,266
Speaker 2: Joel Clatt Show and you can find that on any

1008
00:51:12,306 --> 00:51:14,746
Speaker 2: of the social media's at Joel Clatt Show or go

1009
00:51:14,946 --> 00:51:18,746
Speaker 2: download it wherever you get your podcasts. So that usually

1010
00:51:18,866 --> 00:51:21,386
Speaker 2: drops at least every Monday. And I've got to by

1011
00:51:21,426 --> 00:51:23,586
Speaker 2: the way, I'm gonna pub right now for the first time.

1012
00:51:24,106 --> 00:51:26,786
Speaker 2: I've got a summer series coming on the podcast that

1013
00:51:26,986 --> 00:51:29,826
Speaker 2: I am really excited about.

1014
00:51:30,146 --> 00:51:30,826
Speaker 3: We're sitting down.

1015
00:51:30,906 --> 00:51:31,746
Speaker 1: Are you going on the road.

1016
00:51:32,226 --> 00:51:34,306
Speaker 2: We're going on the road, and we're sitting down face

1017
00:51:34,386 --> 00:51:38,946
Speaker 2: to face with the most influential voices, powerful voices in

1018
00:51:39,066 --> 00:51:45,146
Speaker 2: all of college football. Nick Saban, Ryan Day, Greg Sankei,

1019
00:51:45,226 --> 00:51:48,826
Speaker 2: the commissioner of the SEC, new Big Ten commissioner, Tony Pettiti,

1020
00:51:48,946 --> 00:51:53,506
Speaker 2: Big Twelve Commissioner, Brett Yormark, Lincoln Riley, Dion Sanders.

1021
00:51:53,906 --> 00:51:55,106
Speaker 3: We're sitting down with all of them.

1022
00:51:55,146 --> 00:51:58,146
Speaker 2: They'll be released every Monday during the course of the summer,

1023
00:51:58,226 --> 00:51:59,506
Speaker 2: starting probably June fifth.

1024
00:51:59,786 --> 00:52:03,066
Speaker 1: I love this, so excited to have we started filming

1025
00:52:03,106 --> 00:52:03,586
Speaker 1: them already.

1026
00:52:03,826 --> 00:52:06,946
Speaker 3: Yes, we've got four or three of them done already.

1027
00:52:07,066 --> 00:52:08,666
Speaker 1: So you've been on the road, yep.

1028
00:52:09,746 --> 00:52:12,786
Speaker 2: April's been a busy month, so we've got that. Okay,

1029
00:52:12,866 --> 00:52:16,066
Speaker 2: So that's the podcast. This week, I'll be on with

1030
00:52:16,266 --> 00:52:19,426
Speaker 2: you on the NFL Network Thursday night on the Main

1031
00:52:19,506 --> 00:52:22,546
Speaker 2: Desk with Rich and DJ and CD, as well as

1032
00:52:22,626 --> 00:52:25,586
Speaker 2: Friday night. So that's where I'm at there. You can

1033
00:52:25,666 --> 00:52:27,946
Speaker 2: find me in the fall doing the big noon game

1034
00:52:28,186 --> 00:52:31,826
Speaker 2: with Gus. And I got to tell you, man, it's

1035
00:52:33,546 --> 00:52:35,786
Speaker 2: Peter and I got to know each other when we

1036
00:52:35,906 --> 00:52:40,466
Speaker 2: were both just pumping it man, like at Fox, we

1037
00:52:40,586 --> 00:52:43,266
Speaker 2: were grinding, we were going to mobile and we're covering

1038
00:52:43,466 --> 00:52:47,546
Speaker 2: everything that we could possibly cover. And we're sitting backstage

1039
00:52:47,626 --> 00:52:50,146
Speaker 2: next to Vander Holyfield at a Snoop concert at a

1040
00:52:50,186 --> 00:52:52,826
Speaker 2: super Bowl in Phoenix and looking at each other like

1041
00:52:52,906 --> 00:52:53,866
Speaker 2: how did we get invited?

1042
00:52:53,906 --> 00:52:56,066
Speaker 3: And then Randy Moss is like I invited.

1043
00:52:55,746 --> 00:52:59,466
Speaker 2: You and like weird stories like that, right, And I

1044
00:52:59,546 --> 00:53:02,906
Speaker 2: could not be more proud and more happy for Peter

1045
00:53:03,066 --> 00:53:04,946
Speaker 2: and what he's done in his career, And obviously I

1046
00:53:04,986 --> 00:53:07,426
Speaker 2: feel it super fortunate for what's happened over the last

1047
00:53:07,866 --> 00:53:09,506
Speaker 2: eight ten years in mine as well.

1048
00:53:09,626 --> 00:53:11,426
Speaker 3: So I appreciate being on this show.

1049
00:53:11,586 --> 00:53:13,346
Speaker 1: I think we both have a lot of great feelings

1050
00:53:13,386 --> 00:53:14,946
Speaker 1: for each other. I think we're both very grateful for

1051
00:53:14,986 --> 00:53:16,986
Speaker 1: the bosses that Fox for letting us be us too.

1052
00:53:17,866 --> 00:53:21,786
Speaker 1: Back then, Fox Sports Won was this burgeoning network. It

1053
00:53:21,906 --> 00:53:25,226
Speaker 1: was before all the debate shows became the daily schedule.

1054
00:53:25,266 --> 00:53:28,666
Speaker 1: There was a couple of shows called America's Pregame Fox,

1055
00:53:28,906 --> 00:53:33,266
Speaker 1: Fox Football Daily and Fox Sport Live. These were shows

1056
00:53:33,306 --> 00:53:36,106
Speaker 1: that you probably didn't see much of, but when you

1057
00:53:36,226 --> 00:53:39,386
Speaker 1: talk about Malcolm Gladwell, in the ten thousand Hours, Joel

1058
00:53:39,426 --> 00:53:42,026
Speaker 1: and I got to get all the reps we ever

1059
00:53:42,146 --> 00:53:44,146
Speaker 1: needed so that when the big call up came, we

1060
00:53:44,226 --> 00:53:47,586
Speaker 1: were ready. And gosh, Joel and I went to a

1061
00:53:47,666 --> 00:53:50,626
Speaker 1: Marcus Mariota pro day in Oregon. We went to a

1062
00:53:50,986 --> 00:53:54,266
Speaker 1: Jamis Winston pro day at Florida State. We have been

1063
00:53:54,346 --> 00:53:58,466
Speaker 1: to multiple Senior Bowls. You and me sitting on those bleachers,

1064
00:53:59,226 --> 00:54:01,786
Speaker 1: you know, just introducing ourselves to as many people as

1065
00:54:01,786 --> 00:54:03,786
Speaker 1: we could around the league and say what you want

1066
00:54:03,826 --> 00:54:06,266
Speaker 1: about us online and hate on us while you call

1067
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Speaker 1: it game, or hate on me while eero good Morning football.

1068
00:54:08,786 --> 00:54:10,826
Speaker 1: Two of us busted our asses. And I'm so happy

1069
00:54:10,906 --> 00:54:12,266
Speaker 1: to see that you've had all the success you have

1070
00:54:12,346 --> 00:54:14,426
Speaker 1: because there's no better guy, and there's no better family man.

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00:54:14,466 --> 00:54:17,306
Speaker 1: And I'm I'm getting sentimental because it's now we're ten

1072
00:54:17,386 --> 00:54:18,186
Speaker 1: years from those days.

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00:54:18,386 --> 00:54:20,706
Speaker 2: All right, He's like, what's going on here? This is

1074
00:54:20,746 --> 00:54:25,266
Speaker 2: turning into a big emotional fest. How's by the way,

1075
00:54:25,426 --> 00:54:28,106
Speaker 2: how's everything going with the new family member?

1076
00:54:28,266 --> 00:54:32,906
Speaker 1: And great? We got a baby girl name named Betty Erica.

1077
00:54:32,986 --> 00:54:35,146
Speaker 1: My wife is holding it down as I'm kind of

1078
00:54:35,226 --> 00:54:38,066
Speaker 1: doing my thing. But I am happy to say that

1079
00:54:38,346 --> 00:54:40,186
Speaker 1: my son, mel who is six and a half years

1080
00:54:40,226 --> 00:54:44,306
Speaker 1: oldest really been great and Julia like this playing flag

1081
00:54:44,386 --> 00:54:46,906
Speaker 1: football for the first time. He's playing with older kids.

1082
00:54:46,946 --> 00:54:50,266
Speaker 1: He's on a team with seven and eight year olds. Bro,

1083
00:54:50,586 --> 00:54:55,146
Speaker 1: He's like Barry freaking Sanders, Yes, let's go. I don't

1084
00:54:55,186 --> 00:54:57,626
Speaker 1: know where he has twitchiness. I don't know where the

1085
00:54:57,706 --> 00:55:02,506
Speaker 1: twitchiness comes from. This dude is stuck. I know, I

1086
00:55:02,666 --> 00:55:03,386
Speaker 1: know it's not me.

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00:55:03,706 --> 00:55:03,906
Speaker 4: There.

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00:55:04,226 --> 00:55:06,986
Speaker 1: They are the Bengals. They had a big win against

1089
00:55:07,026 --> 00:55:10,546
Speaker 1: the Eagles yesterday, and I'm there. I'm so proud, so happy.

1090
00:55:10,626 --> 00:55:12,986
Speaker 1: But I'm like already critiquing some of his things. All right,

1091
00:55:12,986 --> 00:55:15,626
Speaker 1: I got to stop being that dad. I'm just happy

1092
00:55:15,666 --> 00:55:17,866
Speaker 1: for him. I'm the guy who's got the kid playing

1093
00:55:17,906 --> 00:55:19,386
Speaker 1: with the older kids, So I love it.

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00:55:19,546 --> 00:55:20,506
Speaker 3: Dude, that's so good.

1095
00:55:20,626 --> 00:55:23,386
Speaker 2: I'm coaching one of my boys in flag football right

1096
00:55:23,426 --> 00:55:27,306
Speaker 2: now in spring flag football. The youngest one, middle one

1097
00:55:27,386 --> 00:55:31,226
Speaker 2: is also playing. My youngest is six, Theodore, and he

1098
00:55:31,306 --> 00:55:34,546
Speaker 2: plays a little quarterback for us. And their team allowed

1099
00:55:35,826 --> 00:55:38,986
Speaker 2: like a lower division team to score a touchdown. And

1100
00:55:39,066 --> 00:55:41,706
Speaker 2: I brought them all together and I was like, guys, boys,

1101
00:55:41,946 --> 00:55:44,346
Speaker 2: I just want you to know that was totally unacceptable.

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00:55:46,266 --> 00:55:46,706
Speaker 4: You and me.

1103
00:55:47,026 --> 00:55:48,866
Speaker 1: Can you get me a okay, So listen real quick,

1104
00:55:48,866 --> 00:55:51,106
Speaker 1: because I think everyone listening is in the draft, but

1105
00:55:51,146 --> 00:55:54,306
Speaker 1: you also might have kids. All right, So my kids

1106
00:55:54,506 --> 00:55:56,586
Speaker 1: six and a half. I live in Brooklyn, New York.

1107
00:55:56,866 --> 00:55:59,306
Speaker 1: There is on one hand the amount of kids who

1108
00:55:59,346 --> 00:56:00,906
Speaker 1: have gone on to play in the NFL who live

1109
00:56:00,946 --> 00:56:01,746
Speaker 1: in Brooklyn, New York.

1110
00:56:01,786 --> 00:56:02,386
Speaker 3: I think it's like.

1111
00:56:02,666 --> 00:56:06,346
Speaker 1: Curtis Samuel and maybe like you know, like Ernie Garfing

1112
00:56:06,506 --> 00:56:09,826
Speaker 1: goal from the nineteen forties, you know, and they play

1113
00:56:10,026 --> 00:56:13,266
Speaker 1: in a park and it's there's it's a couple of reps.

1114
00:56:13,306 --> 00:56:17,586
Speaker 1: But you're in Orange County, California, where I have to

1115
00:56:17,666 --> 00:56:21,466
Speaker 1: imagine it is just a slew Like Bryce Young probably

1116
00:56:21,506 --> 00:56:24,466
Speaker 1: came out of your flag football league. So who are

1117
00:56:24,586 --> 00:56:26,986
Speaker 1: some of the other dads in this league? If you can, My.

1118
00:56:27,106 --> 00:56:29,826
Speaker 2: Gosh, that's a that's a good one. Okay, So I'll

1119
00:56:29,866 --> 00:56:32,706
Speaker 2: give you my next door neighbor. He's got I'll just

1120
00:56:32,746 --> 00:56:35,746
Speaker 2: talk about his his he's got three daughters, played in

1121
00:56:35,746 --> 00:56:36,666
Speaker 2: the league for seven years.

1122
00:56:36,786 --> 00:56:38,986
Speaker 1: Not going to say his name just yet, but he

1123
00:56:39,226 --> 00:56:42,066
Speaker 1: has bezos okay, no go one, no, no, no no.

1124
00:56:42,306 --> 00:56:46,226
Speaker 2: He he has three daughters and on one of his

1125
00:56:46,426 --> 00:56:52,306
Speaker 2: daughter's soccer team. The starting lineup of dads on that

1126
00:56:52,826 --> 00:56:55,266
Speaker 2: soccer team is Corey mcghetty.

1127
00:56:55,066 --> 00:56:57,346
Speaker 1: Okay, from the NFL, from the NBA.

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00:56:57,426 --> 00:57:02,386
Speaker 2: I love them, Nick folesh and Evan Moore, who is

1129
00:57:02,506 --> 00:57:07,426
Speaker 2: my neighbor seven years. And by the way, Evans brother

1130
00:57:07,626 --> 00:57:13,226
Speaker 2: played international professional basketball. Yes, And so these these little

1131
00:57:13,266 --> 00:57:17,066
Speaker 2: girls roll out there and they are throttling all these

1132
00:57:17,106 --> 00:57:20,106
Speaker 2: other teams in this soccer league, and the dads are

1133
00:57:20,146 --> 00:57:23,466
Speaker 2: standing over there and it's like six ' five minimum.

1134
00:57:23,666 --> 00:57:25,866
Speaker 2: It's like Nick Foles is the smallest guy on the

1135
00:57:25,986 --> 00:57:30,386
Speaker 2: dad's sideline and he's enormous, right, So they're holding it down.

1136
00:57:30,986 --> 00:57:33,706
Speaker 1: Okay, And I know that I think your kid was

1137
00:57:33,746 --> 00:57:35,026
Speaker 1: in Matt Liner's kids league.

1138
00:57:35,226 --> 00:57:38,706
Speaker 2: Who's not the Matt Liner league. And this is where

1139
00:57:38,906 --> 00:57:41,226
Speaker 2: like the high school that all the really good players

1140
00:57:41,306 --> 00:57:43,946
Speaker 2: go to from where I live I'll go to modern

1141
00:57:44,026 --> 00:57:47,986
Speaker 2: day and this is Bryce, This is Matt Lioner, this

1142
00:57:48,146 --> 00:57:48,986
Speaker 2: is Matt Barkley.

1143
00:57:49,146 --> 00:57:50,506
Speaker 3: This is that whole lineage.

1144
00:57:50,906 --> 00:57:52,626
Speaker 1: Are your kids going to modern day or is it too?

1145
00:57:53,666 --> 00:57:55,586
Speaker 3: Probably not, We'll see last one.

1146
00:57:55,626 --> 00:57:58,026
Speaker 1: You're a Colorado guy, Can I be Can I be

1147
00:57:58,146 --> 00:58:00,786
Speaker 1: the one to put some dampening of water on this stuff?

1148
00:58:00,986 --> 00:58:03,386
Speaker 3: Or don't you dare don't you dare? Well? We're in

1149
00:58:03,426 --> 00:58:04,546
Speaker 3: a honeymoon face right?

1150
00:58:04,666 --> 00:58:08,866
Speaker 1: He has Twitter. I go on Twitter Saturday. The amount

1151
00:58:09,066 --> 00:58:11,906
Speaker 1: of dorks who come out of the world are like,

1152
00:58:12,306 --> 00:58:14,466
Speaker 1: that's why you get you know, you get Dean to

1153
00:58:14,506 --> 00:58:17,866
Speaker 1: win games. This was fun. But Joe, slow down, Colorado football,

1154
00:58:18,066 --> 00:58:21,466
Speaker 1: slow down? This is Look, do you understand the impact

1155
00:58:21,546 --> 00:58:23,986
Speaker 1: he's making? No, I want to see Dion coach in

1156
00:58:24,026 --> 00:58:26,946
Speaker 1: a big game, and then I'm excited for them too.

1157
00:58:27,146 --> 00:58:28,906
Speaker 1: But I'm just trying to manage expectations.

1158
00:58:28,906 --> 00:58:31,786
Speaker 3: Bro Well, let me let me listen, let me push

1159
00:58:31,906 --> 00:58:32,346
Speaker 3: back on that.

1160
00:58:32,426 --> 00:58:34,106
Speaker 2: All right, I'm going to take your water on the

1161
00:58:34,226 --> 00:58:37,826
Speaker 2: throat out because look at Alabama as a great example

1162
00:58:37,906 --> 00:58:40,146
Speaker 2: in two thousand and seven. You know when they hired

1163
00:58:40,226 --> 00:58:43,186
Speaker 2: Nick Saban, they had around I think it's like I

1164
00:58:43,266 --> 00:58:46,666
Speaker 2: want to say, it was like eighteen thousand students and

1165
00:58:46,746 --> 00:58:50,506
Speaker 2: they're at Alabama, and now I think it's somewhere in

1166
00:58:50,586 --> 00:58:53,906
Speaker 2: the thirty one thirty two there's.

1167
00:58:53,666 --> 00:58:55,946
Speaker 1: A David Shula guy. I think they should have stayed

1168
00:58:55,986 --> 00:58:56,226
Speaker 1: with him.

1169
00:58:56,266 --> 00:58:58,746
Speaker 2: All right, Well they didn't because now they've got thirteen

1170
00:58:58,946 --> 00:59:02,506
Speaker 2: thousand more students at the University of Alabama. And if

1171
00:59:02,546 --> 00:59:04,826
Speaker 2: you just give a low estimate to what those thirteen

1172
00:59:04,906 --> 00:59:08,426
Speaker 2: thousand students are paying intuition to the University of Alabama,

1173
00:59:08,786 --> 00:59:11,666
Speaker 2: do you know what Nick Saban means to Alabama? Yeah,

1174
00:59:11,946 --> 00:59:15,866
Speaker 2: about a mile of a billion dollars annually, right, And

1175
00:59:16,026 --> 00:59:20,706
Speaker 2: so that's gonna happen at Colorado. The just from an

1176
00:59:20,746 --> 00:59:23,866
Speaker 2: academic standpoint, Also, I would say this, they just sold

1177
00:59:23,866 --> 00:59:25,826
Speaker 2: out the spring game ten bucks a ticket. They couldn't

1178
00:59:25,946 --> 00:59:28,386
Speaker 2: they couldn't give away a thousand tickets for like the

1179
00:59:28,506 --> 00:59:32,106
Speaker 2: ridings on Ralfie before it was pleak. And they just

1180
00:59:32,266 --> 00:59:34,106
Speaker 2: sold out their season ticket a lot man for the

1181
00:59:34,186 --> 00:59:36,506
Speaker 2: next fall. So they're gonna they're gonna make From an

1182
00:59:36,506 --> 00:59:41,146
Speaker 2: athletic department standpoint, they're already plus twenty million dollars in

1183
00:59:41,306 --> 00:59:44,306
Speaker 2: margin just on ticket sales year over year from last

1184
00:59:44,346 --> 00:59:46,906
Speaker 2: year to this year, so he he this is why

1185
00:59:47,026 --> 00:59:49,426
Speaker 2: you get Dean. There is a business element to this,

1186
00:59:49,666 --> 00:59:51,386
Speaker 2: but it is going to have to go win games.

1187
00:59:51,426 --> 00:59:54,266
Speaker 2: And by the way, gust and I might call came

1188
00:59:54,426 --> 00:59:55,666
Speaker 2: their first couple of games.

1189
00:59:56,186 --> 00:59:58,386
Speaker 1: I'll tell you I was being sarcastic. I am so

1190
00:59:58,586 --> 01:00:00,866
Speaker 1: excited that Deon stuff because honestly, I worked with an

1191
01:00:01,026 --> 01:00:02,826
Speaker 1: NFL network and I grew up like you did, I'm sure,

1192
01:00:02,866 --> 01:00:05,946
Speaker 1: with Deon posters and wanted to be Deon Sanders. Here.

1193
01:00:05,986 --> 01:00:08,506
Speaker 1: I am this white Jewish kid from New Jersey with

1194
01:00:08,706 --> 01:00:15,386
Speaker 1: like Dion Sanders twenty one Falcons channel. So then I

1195
01:00:15,426 --> 01:00:16,946
Speaker 1: get to work with him an NFL network and you

1196
01:00:16,986 --> 01:00:19,346
Speaker 1: might have your own expectations on like who do has me?

1197
01:00:19,906 --> 01:00:23,306
Speaker 1: There isn't a nicer, cooler, more down to earth like

1198
01:00:23,466 --> 01:00:26,426
Speaker 1: good intentions, doesn't drink, doesn't like do anything.

1199
01:00:26,786 --> 01:00:27,826
Speaker 3: Dion is the man.

1200
01:00:28,106 --> 01:00:30,266
Speaker 1: So I I was so excited to see him come

1201
01:00:30,306 --> 01:00:32,986
Speaker 1: to Colorado. My only question was, and you're gonna have

1202
01:00:33,066 --> 01:00:35,026
Speaker 1: to report it here not Now you're the lead analyst

1203
01:00:35,066 --> 01:00:39,266
Speaker 1: at Fox, did you get approached to be the offensive coordinator?

1204
01:00:39,386 --> 01:00:41,626
Speaker 1: Was there any conversations? Now? No, no, no, no, no,

1205
01:00:42,266 --> 01:00:45,826
Speaker 1: no no no, no, okay, I would have liked that

1206
01:00:47,586 --> 01:00:51,026
Speaker 1: it would have been fun. Joe Klatt awesome. We'll see

1207
01:00:51,066 --> 01:00:51,546
Speaker 1: you this week.

1208
01:00:52,826 --> 01:00:54,186
Speaker 3: I can't wait to see you in Kansas City.

1209
01:00:54,546 --> 01:00:57,506
Speaker 1: Very cool guys. So who everyone's listening? Thanks listening. We're

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Speaker 1: going to have one more podcasts this week, either right

1211
01:00:59,906 --> 01:01:01,546
Speaker 1: before the draft or after the first round. I got

1212
01:01:01,666 --> 01:01:03,946
Speaker 1: to decide. Me and Aaron are figuring that out. Uh

1213
01:01:04,226 --> 01:01:07,426
Speaker 1: to everyone at iHeartRadio, Jason English, and Devrone at the

1214
01:01:07,506 --> 01:01:09,866
Speaker 1: NFL network at NFL dot com, thank you for helping

1215
01:01:09,866 --> 01:01:12,826
Speaker 1: me put this together. For Aaron, Wan Kaufman, for Joel Klatt,

1216
01:01:13,266 --> 01:01:15,786
Speaker 1: for my man Jack Rudd on the one Tuesday Till

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01:01:15,866 --> 01:01:27,386
Speaker 1: Next Time. The Season with Peter Schrager is a production

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01:01:27,626 --> 01:01:31,226
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1220
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