1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:02,600 Speaker 1: So Drake may is off the board, Caleb Williams is 2 00:00:02,600 --> 00:00:05,000 Speaker 1: off the board. Jayden Daniels is off the board. JJ 3 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 1: McCarthy off the board. Bo Nix is still there, Michael 4 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:11,040 Speaker 1: Pennix is off the board. Devin Leary is still there. 5 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:13,080 Speaker 1: The reason I bring that up is because Dennis Leary 6 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 1: will sit down with Nathan Sigura coming up later on 7 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 1: as we celebrate the tenth anniversary of Draft Day. But 8 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:21,160 Speaker 1: joining us right now in studio the voice of your 9 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:23,240 Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns, Jim Donovan. 10 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 2: Good to see you all. I have to tell you 11 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 2: what a great thing to be here tonight, to see 12 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 2: you all. Har only Ken when we talk on Sunday mornings, 13 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:33,240 Speaker 2: it's on the phone, yeah, you know. And I'm going 14 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 2: by the cathedral and I'm you know, making the sign 15 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:38,560 Speaker 2: of the cross. Hopefully they at one o'clock. We're gonna 16 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 2: be okay, Geron, I'd like to see you work on 17 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 2: those shoulders. And always good to be with Nathan. I 18 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:49,559 Speaker 2: listened to the Texans game the other night, the playoff game. 19 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 2: Son of a Gun. Huh. I've replayed that thing five times. 20 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 2: That that drive in the second half, that was right there, baby. 21 00:00:56,680 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 3: And that was over and we're talking about David mill 22 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 3: Bay in the third quarter, We're like, well that was good. 23 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:06,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, what happened. It's good to be with you guys. 24 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 2: So hopefully it was a good first half. 25 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:07,840 Speaker 4: Hopefully. 26 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:09,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, the first half was good. Yeah, it 27 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 2: really was. It really was. 28 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, Jim, ever since we saw you come up the stairs, 29 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 1: We're like, we got to hear what he has to 30 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 1: say about this. 31 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 5: Michael Pennocks junior. 32 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, unbelievable to Atlanta at number eight. Yeah, incredible, I 33 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 2: mean totally. I mean there usually there is a surprise move. 34 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, in the first round, but that 35 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 2: is a big, big surprise considering what they did and 36 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 2: the commitment to Kirk Cousins and to get him, and 37 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 2: the natural move that you know they're making to him, 38 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 2: and you just thought no way that that would happen, 39 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:42,120 Speaker 2: that he would that Michael Pennox would go there. He's 40 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:45,839 Speaker 2: a fascinating player anyway, sure, I mean really a fascinating player, 41 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 2: but I never ever would have pegged that. And I'm 42 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 2: sure all the draft mock guys are saying, what the 43 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 2: heck is going on? 44 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 6: Of course they are good, but at the same time, 45 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 6: you think about what the facts have gone through a 46 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 6: gym with Mariota being there, and how that didn't work 47 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 6: out and then and what that entailed as well. So 48 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 6: I can understand how you get to a place where 49 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 6: you're like, you know what, we can't have enough quarterbacks. 50 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 4: But still it does not make e. 51 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:11,360 Speaker 3: Shi give a guy one hundred million dollars guaranteed and 52 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:15,680 Speaker 3: then use your most valuable asset again on that position. 53 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 3: Because Michael Penix isn't young either. So if the earliest 54 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 3: he's gonna play, if Kirk Cousins does not get hurt, 55 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:24,360 Speaker 3: the earliest city is gonna play twenty twenty six. 56 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 4: So they're into Cousins for two years. 57 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 3: I mean, there's a hundred and ninety million dollars guaranteed 58 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:31,240 Speaker 3: over the next two seasons. He's gonna be he'd be 59 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 3: twenty six by the time he becomes in the NFL. 60 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 4: That Kirk Cousins, you're gonna bench him? 61 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:39,359 Speaker 3: Of course, not there in my mind the favorites to 62 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 3: win that division. 63 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 1: It's wild Roger Goodell making his way to the podium 64 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:46,080 Speaker 1: right now. Denver's pick is in what are you thinking, uh, 65 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 1: could we see another quarterback? 66 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 4: Absolutely? You think he you think you think Nicks reminds 67 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 4: him of Drew. 68 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:54,920 Speaker 3: I don't know if anybody that'd be and Drew, but 69 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 3: I think he thinks he needs He's played a lot 70 00:02:57,040 --> 00:02:57,680 Speaker 3: of quarterback. 71 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:00,920 Speaker 2: He's playing like Mike Goodness. I mean he is vested. 72 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:03,360 Speaker 2: Isn't even a pension plan. 73 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 7: In the twenty twenty four NFL Draft, the Denver Broncos 74 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 7: select Boo Knicks. 75 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 2: It is quarterback. He's vested six. 76 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 3: Go ahead and may the way you got all right? 77 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 3: I got a text. This is Thursday, April the eleventh. 78 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:25,080 Speaker 3: I got a text from my buddy Jimmy Bang Bang, 79 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 3: who texts me, you got some weird names from hanging 80 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 3: hanging with a lady who's fiance is the director of 81 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 3: player personnel for the Broncos. 82 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 4: I said, that's cool. She says they are drafting bow. 83 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 3: Knicks wow out the streets and apparently didn't cost him. 84 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 3: They were still able to get him. 85 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 4: How about it. That's amazing the information gets out. 86 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 2: That is insane. 87 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 1: So these six guys we talked about, and we were 88 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 1: talking about it a month ago, that teams are going 89 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 1: to draft trade back into the first round right to 90 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 1: maybe get after Pennix and bow Knicks and now they're 91 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 1: all gone in the first twelve picks. 92 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 4: Quarterback league, friends. 93 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 2: I gotta have one or two are let me let 94 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 2: me say one thing Ken the Atlanta not only the 95 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 2: pick tonight, but the off season's been a bit bizarre 96 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 2: because of the Belichick situation and that incredible story that 97 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 2: came out last week about going through the whole process 98 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:22,360 Speaker 2: of Belichick and Arthur Blank and really the rest of 99 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 2: the organization saying no, and then Robert Kraft coming in 100 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 2: and saying, all right, you know you're you're you're my 101 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 2: good friend. Don't hire this guy, don't trust him, I mean, 102 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 2: and so that, and then Rich McKay kind of getting 103 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 2: booted out of the football operation and then a move 104 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 2: like this tonight. That's a strange off season there, Yes 105 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:45,360 Speaker 2: for an owner that was so close to winning a 106 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 2: Super Bowl twenty eight to three and it just slipped 107 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 2: away from him, and how he's just so desperately trying 108 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 2: to get back because like all of us, he's getting older. 109 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 3: So I know, you listen to a lot of your 110 00:04:57,320 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 3: Boston sports talk radio. 111 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 2: They were saying today incidentally, mother Regd, we need a quarterback. No, 112 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:09,599 Speaker 2: but I do what. 113 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:13,360 Speaker 3: Were they saying about I cannot believe that Craft would 114 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:17,719 Speaker 3: be that bitter or that he would call and be like, 115 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 3: don't hire Bill Belichick. 116 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:21,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that they were very surprised. But the 117 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 2: whole documentary, I think the whole you know, putting together 118 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 2: that I mean, there was a it was a sense 119 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:31,159 Speaker 2: that Robert Craft was really the executive producer of the 120 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 2: whole documentary and made it happen, and he was, you know, 121 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 2: obviously fashioned very well in it. But it was a 122 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 2: real hit attack on Bill Belichick. I mean it really was. 123 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, the guy won all I mean, 124 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 2: the guy won all those Super Bowls. Okay, I know. 125 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:50,040 Speaker 2: The quarterback was tremendous. This guy was a genius and 126 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 2: he is a genius and he's going to go down 127 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 2: as probably the best ever. 128 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 6: And I'll be the first of the last tell you 129 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:57,280 Speaker 6: Tom Brady does not have the success that he had 130 00:05:57,320 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 6: without Bill Belichick. If ans and butts about it, and 131 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 6: those first three Super Bowls won. That was a deepensive 132 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 6: centric football team, not offense. 133 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 1: I don't know what he must have said to him 134 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 1: to get him to play the ball. Bill Belichick on 135 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 1: the way out the door, Hey, mister Blake. 136 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 3: Don't hire the guy that figured out a way to 137 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 3: beat to be twenty eight to three bad idea for 138 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 3: rail Yeah, yeah, but I think that you know, they 139 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 3: they were sitting in a position. 140 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:23,720 Speaker 2: I think that a lot of people thought they might 141 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 2: be involved in the you know, listening picking up the 142 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 2: telephone giants, Vikings whoever was going to get up there 143 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 2: and try and get a quarterback in front of them, 144 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:34,360 Speaker 2: and that they would move on and still get a quarterback. 145 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 2: But I thought, really in the last forty eight hours 146 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 2: they were pretty dialed in on Drake. 147 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 6: May sure that way that makes sense. Back to the 148 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 6: Patriots situation, I let it go halfter this. Maybe he 149 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:46,719 Speaker 6: was upset that being mister Kraft, the fact that Tom 150 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:48,359 Speaker 6: went on to win a Super Bowl and Bill was 151 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:50,159 Speaker 6: the reason for Tom exit in a building. 152 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 2: I think that really stung that he went to tampavill 153 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 2: and low Jackie went. 154 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 7: Here's the pick in the twenty twenty four NFL draft 155 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 7: to Las Vegas Raiders, select brock Powers, tight end Georgia. 156 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 5: You wanted him gone a couple of pickers. 157 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 3: Well, yet to Chargers Jets. Chargers would have been fine too. 158 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 3: I wanted the Chargers to take a wide receiver. I 159 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 3: know that Alt is probably gonna be a Hall of 160 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 3: Famer someday and all of that, but. 161 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 4: I want weapons. 162 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 3: This is surprising because correct me if I'm wrong, But 163 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 3: didn't they draft the Golden Domer. Didn't they draft Michael 164 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 3: Meyer early the second round? 165 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 5: LEF. 166 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, Yeah, Yes, they're going They're gonna go a 167 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 2: lot of tight ends, a lot of twelve personnel. This 168 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 2: guy was This guy is a great player. I mean 169 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 2: he is a tremendous player. That's yeah. 170 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 1: I mean they got Aidan O'Connell there, and it's not 171 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 1: like obviously, but you throw the tight end. So if 172 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 1: you're a little bit mitch starting there, fine, I mean, okay, 173 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 1: what are you gonna do after he gets hurt? 174 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 4: The man had the head on already. He's probably good 175 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 4: for the Colts last year. 176 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 3: If it was a draft, by the way, if that 177 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 3: guy doesn't drop a pass wide open on fourth down. 178 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 4: We were playing an India playoff, yeah. 179 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 1: It probably wouldn't have been the same result. Obviously, Uh, 180 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 1: jim out out of these six guys. Because you're talking 181 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 1: to a lot of Browns fans. There was a lot 182 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 1: of people this year going I don't know much about 183 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 1: any of these guys. 184 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 5: I don't like any of these guys. 185 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 1: Like I told Jerrod at the very beginning of the 186 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 1: show in twenty eighteen, we had our arguments ready a 187 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 1: year in advance about any guy that we like, from 188 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 1: Allen to Darnold to everything. And now this time we 189 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 1: there's not a lot of things there. So like, are 190 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 1: there guys that out of the top six guys, is 191 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 1: there someone you're like, I still don't know about this guy? 192 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 1: Is there someone that maybe we don't we're not talking about, 193 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:40,080 Speaker 1: like not Caleb Williams, But is there someone maybe we're saying, hey, 194 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 1: I think he's going to be better than what we've done. 195 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:44,840 Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you, Ken, I watched Caleb Williams this 196 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:48,320 Speaker 2: year and I was puzzled by him. But I will 197 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 2: I will buy into the fact that USC had a 198 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:56,320 Speaker 2: horrible offensive line. He was missing some weapons at key 199 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:59,200 Speaker 2: points the Notre Dame game. I was already dialed in 200 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 2: on that game. I mean, I thought he was awful 201 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:02,839 Speaker 2: in that game. And I don't think it was all 202 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 2: the offensive line he made really just atrocious decisions. Yeah, yeah, 203 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 2: three picks And you said it was kind of like, 204 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 2: what the heck is he seeing out there? As the 205 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 2: season went on, I didn't like his his body language 206 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 2: a couple of times, you know that. I mean, he's 207 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 2: the leader of that team, he's the defending Heisman Trophy 208 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 2: award winner, and you would have thought he would have 209 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 2: carried himself a little bit better and a little bit 210 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 2: more of, Hey, come on, I'm the leader, follow me. 211 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:32,679 Speaker 2: And I didn't see that. And then as the off 212 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 2: season thing went along and his preparation and the walk 213 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:37,319 Speaker 2: up to the draft, they thought that was bizarre. 214 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 5: So I don't. 215 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 2: I mean, but I watched him at Oklahoma and when 216 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:43,439 Speaker 2: he was at USC the one year before this last season. 217 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:46,839 Speaker 2: He was a tremendous talent, no doubt. I watched Drake 218 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:49,679 Speaker 2: may play. I can remember the first time I watched him. 219 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 2: It was the opening game of the season. It was 220 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 2: like a double lord triple overtime game against Appalachian State. 221 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 2: And he was tremendous in that game, you know. So 222 00:09:59,840 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 2: he It was a fascinating guy, big, big arm, no 223 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 2: doubt about it. And I remember the other kid watching 224 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:07,320 Speaker 2: him play at Arizona State and then I saw him winning. 225 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:11,840 Speaker 2: He beat He beat Alabama actually in bad and Rouge 226 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:14,839 Speaker 2: that day. You know, if you beat Alabama, it kind 227 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 2: of makes you, doesn't it, Because it made Johnny Manziel 228 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:19,599 Speaker 2: when he beat him right a decade ago. Yeah, I 229 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 2: mean really, when Joe Burrow beat Alabama in Tuscaloosa, it 230 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 2: kind of really solidified. Yeah, they canonize you're down there. 231 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:33,679 Speaker 1: Saints on the board right now with the fourteenth pick 232 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 1: here in the first round. So we talked Browns. Obviously, 233 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 1: we have to talk Browns with you. Very little intrigue 234 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 1: with fans to pick fifty four coming up tomorrow. It 235 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 1: seems that the fifty three, Nathan, you and I discussed 236 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:50,080 Speaker 1: it on the air before. It seems that the fifty 237 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 1: three almost could be set if you really wanted it 238 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 1: to be absolutely what would you what would you like 239 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 1: to see me? 240 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:58,720 Speaker 2: Well, I would like to see, for instance, if they 241 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:01,959 Speaker 2: went for a young defensive tackle, let's say a defensive tackle. 242 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 2: I would be really happy to see them get a 243 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:08,840 Speaker 2: young defensive tackle that is their guy. Now, I love 244 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 2: the guys that played here last year, and I'm really 245 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 2: happy and you and I on Cleveland Brown Staley mentioned this. 246 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 2: I was really happy, Kim when they brought the majority 247 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:19,320 Speaker 2: of them back. They all wanted to come back, and 248 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 2: it's a now team. You know this, Their window is 249 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 2: open and I like that, but let's face it, it's 250 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:28,560 Speaker 2: year by year by year. I would love to see 251 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:31,160 Speaker 2: them get a player, for instance, if it's an inside 252 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:37,320 Speaker 2: defensive lineman that can come in contribute, but keep learning 253 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 2: at a very fast pace, and then he's our guy. 254 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:43,960 Speaker 2: And okay, now we've watched them grow kind of like 255 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 2: j Oka. I mean, you know he's the second round 256 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 2: guy obviously, when you've watched him and now you watched 257 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 2: him grow, and and you watched him last year and 258 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 2: even during the season you watched him and you know, 259 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 2: we were just laughing about the Texans game. I mean, 260 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 2: he was the best player on the field, period of right, 261 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 2: and I would love to see that kind of a 262 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 2: player come here. 263 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:07,679 Speaker 6: Right And think about continuity and what it represents. Now, 264 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:09,720 Speaker 6: I'm of the opinion you wanted in the front office, 265 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:11,839 Speaker 6: you wanted a coaching staff, and to a large degree, 266 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:14,080 Speaker 6: you wanted with your players as well. And think about 267 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:16,199 Speaker 6: where this organization has grown from. It used to be 268 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:18,320 Speaker 6: a point in time where you got the bottom of 269 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 6: the barrel players coming here because they were doing what 270 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 6: simply collecting a check. Now you're in a state to 271 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 6: wear veterans season veterans who are trying to pursue championship 272 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 6: aspirations think that they can acquire that here. That speaks 273 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:33,960 Speaker 6: volumes of what's taking place and change within this organization. 274 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:36,720 Speaker 2: You're right. When they came back in nineteen ninety nine, 275 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:40,560 Speaker 2: they had a bundle of money, okay, because it's a 276 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 2: brand new team, And you're right, you had all these 277 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:46,439 Speaker 2: worn out free agents that would come here, that'd get 278 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 2: a dinner at the Blue Point Downtown and a the 279 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:50,960 Speaker 2: lease full of money. 280 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 4: Okay. 281 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:54,439 Speaker 2: And then I mean, you know, guys like Lomas Brown 282 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:56,959 Speaker 2: and these kind of players. They were done, but they 283 00:12:57,040 --> 00:13:00,160 Speaker 2: made zillions of bucks because al Lerner had all all 284 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:02,320 Speaker 2: that money in the bronze head, had a brand new 285 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:06,200 Speaker 2: kitty to spend, and they weren't worth anything. But you're 286 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 2: exactly right now, I you have a different kind of 287 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 2: veteran player coming here that realizes you can win here 288 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:14,720 Speaker 2: right now, Yes, And you can get a good year's 289 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 2: work here, and it's a fun place to play, and 290 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:17,560 Speaker 2: it's a good team. 291 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 4: Obviously, they love the locker room. 292 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 3: They love being a part of it, right to your 293 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 3: point with the defensive tackle position, and I think the 294 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:26,199 Speaker 3: first two picks are a defensive tackle, offensive tackle, wide receiver. 295 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 3: It's going to be two of those three positions. But 296 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:30,959 Speaker 3: you know you've got Shelby on a one year deal. 297 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 3: Mohurst is on a one year deal. Quentin Jefferson, which 298 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 3: I think is one of the more kind of under 299 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 3: the radar, very good signings eleven sacks last two seasons, 300 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:39,320 Speaker 3: can really rush the passer from that tackle position, but 301 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 3: he's also on a one year deal. Dalvid'll be in 302 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 3: the second of a three year deal that usually makes 303 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 3: the end of the guarantees. And then you've got Siakika 304 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:48,320 Speaker 3: and I don't think we're sure what we ran got yeah, 305 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 3: and it was certainly was not great against Cincinnati in 306 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 3: the finale. So I think that is a position where 307 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 3: if you can find a guy that fits this scheme 308 00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:57,960 Speaker 3: that can get upfield, that it makes a lot of 309 00:13:57,960 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 3: sense because you'll be able to get him in a 310 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:01,840 Speaker 3: rotation this year, but then have him be a starter 311 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 3: and be. 312 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 4: As you said, your guy next year. 313 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 3: Right, there's a lot of succession planning, I think in 314 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:07,400 Speaker 3: this draft yea certain. 315 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 2: Because when you're not when you don't have these first 316 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:13,200 Speaker 2: round picks. You know, the joy of that is a 317 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:16,559 Speaker 2: you hit on a guy, right, but b is you 318 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 2: have them under control, yes, for so long, and you 319 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 2: know we don't have that now for the third year 320 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 2: in a row. You don't have that particular style or 321 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 2: drafted player in the in that position. And that kind 322 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 2: of drain changes your roster makeup. 323 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 6: It certainly does, and it makes you become more free 324 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 6: agent savvy because you have to bring nice people in 325 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 6: order the job done. 326 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:36,400 Speaker 4: But here's the other part too. 327 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 6: As this draft takes place and continues to go on, 328 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 6: if you are a free agent, if you are a 329 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 6: draft pick, this is going to be an extremely difficult 330 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 6: team to crack the starting lineup and be a contributor on. 331 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 6: So it's gonna be very interesting to see how that 332 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 6: does unfold. Because when you're a desperation boat, you'll go 333 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 6: where they sign you. But when if I'm a free 334 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 6: agent and I'm really savvy as an undrafted guy, I'm 335 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 6: saying to myself, do I really want to go there? 336 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 4: Because they are loaded? 337 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 2: Yeah? 338 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 1: I was so honestly, I was so surprised that we 339 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 1: brought back Shelby Harris that We brought back everybody that 340 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 1: that we Mohurst, that we really fell in love with 341 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 1: in a lot of ways. 342 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 2: Absolutely, they wanted to come back. 343 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 1: It was just it was so great because it's like, 344 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 1: all right, we say the right thing, and then in 345 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 1: the off season way we got to make business decisions 346 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 1: and we were getting gashed the year before. They stopped 347 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 1: it last year, and then these guys come back and 348 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 1: it's like, all right, the culture is there. The culture's true. 349 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 1: It's not just something we're trying to believe. It's actually 350 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 1: there now. 351 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 4: I was talking with Zadarius Smith because that was one 352 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 4: of the big things. 353 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 3: They wanted to get him back, and he played through 354 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 3: some things last year, but I still thought was very disruptive, 355 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 3: made a lot of big plays. But he said the 356 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 3: first time in his whole playing career at any level, 357 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 3: that he's had the same five defensive ends in the 358 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 3: room two years in a row, first time ever. 359 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 1: All Right, we got Roger Goodell, who's getting ready to 360 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 1: take the podium here. 361 00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 5: For the New Orleans Saints picked fourteen. 362 00:15:51,160 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 7: Picks in the four NFL Draft. The New Orleans Saints stah. 363 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 5: Oregen pick number fourteen. 364 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 4: What do you got, No defensive players. 365 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 3: Still, well, it's a record, so it's never been There's 366 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 3: never been a top ten without a defensive player, and 367 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 3: now we're on fourteen straight offensive players. 368 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 4: So if you're a team, listen here the bank. Let's 369 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 4: take the Bengals in our division. 370 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 3: Trey hendrickson the trade, It's possible that the top edge 371 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 3: in this draft falls to you, and then you can 372 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 3: go ahead and maybe acquiesced to his trade request, which 373 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 3: I certainly would not do if I was them. But 374 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 3: it also says if they thought that these edges were 375 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 3: that good, they would be off the board. 376 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 4: I mean, it's not that is to me. 377 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 3: It's saying that they don't think these guys are as 378 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 3: good as perhaps some of them have been in more 379 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 3: recent draft. 380 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 5: Las Cold steeds some defense. Maybe they'll get some. 381 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 1: Jim loved to talk to you more about the defensive 382 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 1: wide receivers as well. 383 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 5: When we come back. 384 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 4: It is the. 385 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns Draft Show on the University Hospitals Cleveland Browns 386 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 1: Radio Network. 387 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 4: You are listening to coverage of the NFL Draft. 388 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:10,120 Speaker 1: This is the University Hospitals Cleveland Brown's Radio Network. Back 389 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 1: of Bria Ken Carmen alongside of Jim Donovan, Nathan's girl 390 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:16,639 Speaker 1: Jerrod Cherry taking you through the twenty twenty four NFL Draft, 391 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 1: the first round only at the first of three days. 392 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 5: Here. 393 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:21,879 Speaker 1: We'll get going again tomorrow night, starting at seven pm, 394 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:24,720 Speaker 1: and then high noon day three, picks four through seven 395 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:27,359 Speaker 1: with our buddy Nathan Zegera taking the head on that one. 396 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 4: Yes, you don't want to come join me? 397 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:31,280 Speaker 1: I mean I can do a phone call my son's 398 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 1: birthday parties on Saturday, number birthday five. 399 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:38,440 Speaker 4: You can't miss that one. No family first, ken. 400 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 1: I'm I'm starting to get the whole Harry Chapin deal. 401 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 1: My oldest is eight, gonna be nine, and it's it's 402 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:44,120 Speaker 1: already too. 403 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 4: Much for me. So it's oh my daughter just got 404 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:46,679 Speaker 4: her drives. 405 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 2: So you're talking about. 406 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:50,919 Speaker 1: It, Oh yeah, oh yeah, it's Cats in the Cradle 407 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:53,680 Speaker 1: all the way and this movie. And the worst thing 408 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 1: is is all of my producers playing it on purpose 409 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:57,680 Speaker 1: on the air to make me feel even worse about 410 00:17:57,680 --> 00:17:58,200 Speaker 1: all that stuff. 411 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 2: Did you say your daughter gonna lie? That's right? 412 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:03,680 Speaker 4: Last Thursday? That's right? 413 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:07,399 Speaker 1: Yes, I remember you telling me you taking her to 414 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 1: school when she was little, and her and her brother 415 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:14,200 Speaker 1: you play in w w e theme saws and them 416 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 1: playing guests. 417 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:17,719 Speaker 4: That too, and they were elite at it. 418 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 2: It's amazing. 419 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 4: That's so. 420 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 3: The first way that they were able to, like when 421 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:22,920 Speaker 3: I would set up competitions that that's how they would 422 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 3: get the things they wanted was I would say, we 423 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:28,600 Speaker 3: do every professional sports league, every major professional sports league. 424 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 3: I would say the city, the city, and they had 425 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 3: to give you or whatever the first part of the 426 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:34,359 Speaker 3: team was, because it's not always a city, New England, 427 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:38,360 Speaker 3: for example, and they had to give me the mascot. 428 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:38,360 Speaker 4: As it were. 429 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:40,199 Speaker 3: And so once they got through that, then we were 430 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:41,800 Speaker 3: in themes and then it was battles. Soon as the 431 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:43,679 Speaker 3: Thames whoever had a first boom. Once they racked up 432 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:45,960 Speaker 3: enough points, they got to go get whatever they wanted. Toys, 433 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 3: r us sad, that's gone too, by gone era, ken 434 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 3: a by gone era. 435 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:53,960 Speaker 1: I'd explain my son what a paper route was on Monday. 436 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 5: He looked at me like I had lobsters. 437 00:18:56,600 --> 00:18:57,880 Speaker 4: So it was such a big deal. 438 00:18:57,920 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 3: There were video games where you got to protect. 439 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:05,200 Speaker 1: Exactly pick us in with Indianapolis, talk about them here 440 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:07,719 Speaker 1: in a moment. A wide receiver is always a conversation 441 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 1: with the great, Nathan Zigura, We like those jokes, but 442 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:13,200 Speaker 1: it's true. 443 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:16,600 Speaker 5: Jerry Judy and with the Cleveland Browns, Jim your thoughts. 444 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:18,480 Speaker 2: I was really excited when they got him. I think 445 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 2: it was a badly needed move. And I like what 446 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 2: they have done when you consider, you know, Amari Cooper 447 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 2: came that way, Jerry Judy comes that way. It's interesting 448 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:31,600 Speaker 2: how Andrew Berry cons with Elijah Moore comes that way. 449 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:34,199 Speaker 2: You know, jurry out there, hopefully better year coming up 450 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:36,960 Speaker 2: for him. But yeah, I mean I think that's that's 451 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:39,240 Speaker 2: a different way to do it. It's a different way 452 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 2: to do it. Get the trade done, get them here. 453 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, And unfortunately we've tried in the third round Anthony 454 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 3: Schwartz didn't work out. Jury still out on David Bell 455 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 3: sat or Tillman. But we've done very good at acquiring 456 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 3: these people via trade at that wide receiver position. And 457 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 3: by the way, I like it. And if Jerry Judy 458 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:56,920 Speaker 3: is what they think he is, the fact that they've 459 00:19:56,920 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 3: already locked him up at the value that they did, 460 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 3: it's gonna be a steal. 461 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 5: It's worth it. And oh go ahead, r yeah. 462 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:07,280 Speaker 4: Know on top of that thing about and what real 463 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:08,480 Speaker 4: quick we're. 464 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:10,960 Speaker 5: The fifteenth pick in the twenty twenty four. 465 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:16,200 Speaker 7: NFL Draft, the Indianapolis selection too. 466 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 5: UCLA. 467 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:22,720 Speaker 1: All right, first defensive guy off the board goes to 468 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 1: the Indianapolis Colts that picked fifteen Seattle. The Seahawks are 469 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:27,719 Speaker 1: on the clock at picked sixteen. 470 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 2: Go ahead, you run. 471 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:30,480 Speaker 6: Yeah, Well, think about cooping what that represented and how 472 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 6: we were able to in my opinion, Fleet the Cowboys 473 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:34,719 Speaker 6: in getting him. And then when you think about the 474 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:39,720 Speaker 6: situation with Judy, he had instability at the highest forms 475 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:42,880 Speaker 6: in Denver and what that represents. So you figure instability 476 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:45,639 Speaker 6: at the quarterback position puts you in a position to 477 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 6: where you can let that talent unfold. 478 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:49,359 Speaker 4: And obviously we will see. 479 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 6: But I'm of the opinion that yes, you take a 480 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 6: chance on a guy like this who has so much talent, 481 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 6: because once again, he was in a situation where it 482 00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:59,679 Speaker 6: was unstable. And when you have instability like you have 483 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 6: in Denver going on, it's hard to succeed. I don't 484 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 6: care who you are, is damn near impossible to So 485 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:07,960 Speaker 6: I get why the numbers were not as one we 486 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 6: want them to be, but you really have to understand 487 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 6: when the organization is faltering, it's hard for the success 488 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 6: to show itself as an individual and as a team. 489 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:17,880 Speaker 2: You know, ken if you think about it, as amazing 490 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:21,359 Speaker 2: as it was, how they navigated through the quarterback situation 491 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 2: last year here and got to the playoffs, and what 492 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 2: a great story that was. The wide receiver situation was 493 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:31,399 Speaker 2: really the same because it was Cooper and then a 494 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:35,480 Speaker 2: bunch of projects, really with Elijah Moore playing an Elijah 495 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:39,200 Speaker 2: Moore role, yeah role, but I mean on the outside, 496 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:41,159 Speaker 2: I mean, we had wish that it would be Donovan 497 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:44,840 Speaker 2: People's jones, and obviously it wasn't, and they traded them away. 498 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 2: Tillman is very very young, but they were playing critical 499 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 2: games with these kind of players. David Bell comes up 500 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:54,480 Speaker 2: with that big play that finally gives them breathing room 501 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:58,120 Speaker 2: against Jacksonville. But I mean, now you really did need 502 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:02,160 Speaker 2: some an established wide receiver to go along with Cooper. 503 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 2: I mean, it was great with Cooper and Njoku, but 504 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:08,159 Speaker 2: you were still missing that piece to the puzzle. And 505 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 2: yet they were very very able to weave their way 506 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 2: through that, which is another amazing part of their story. 507 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:16,400 Speaker 4: Last Yeah, you need that blazer. 508 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:18,679 Speaker 6: You gotta have that guy, Yeah, in which the deepest 509 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:21,680 Speaker 6: quarter says, we cannot let this guy beat us over 510 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:24,440 Speaker 6: the top. We try to establish that with several guys 511 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:26,200 Speaker 6: and they were panned hisself out and you have a 512 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:28,400 Speaker 6: guy who has some symbols to show that he possesses 513 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:29,880 Speaker 6: that ability in Judy. 514 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 4: And I'm part of the reason. 515 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:32,880 Speaker 3: I think that maybe even a receiver to your point 516 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:34,480 Speaker 3: would still be in play in the second round, like 517 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:37,560 Speaker 3: a Franklin out of Oregon, Troy Franklin, who can just fly. 518 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:41,199 Speaker 3: Part of this draft is what can help you this year, 519 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:43,960 Speaker 3: and we talked about that with the defensive tackle framework, 520 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 3: but really about taking over in twenty five, and I 521 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:49,399 Speaker 3: think you'd think that even at the receiver position, because 522 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:52,880 Speaker 3: Jerry Judy is gonna be here. He's under contract. Amari 523 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 3: at that point is no guaranteed money left is going 524 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 3: to be very expensive and another year older. Not that 525 00:22:57,359 --> 00:22:58,720 Speaker 3: you want to get rid of him, but you have 526 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:00,639 Speaker 3: to think about these things because you can't keep everybody 527 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:01,720 Speaker 3: when you're a good football team. 528 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 4: Elijah's in the. 529 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:05,480 Speaker 3: Last year of his rookie deal and and our offense 530 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:07,239 Speaker 3: last year. I think what was so interesting about it 531 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:09,679 Speaker 3: was if you take the Jets game where we clinched 532 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:12,920 Speaker 3: that magical night. Amari was a late scratch. Elijah goes 533 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:15,720 Speaker 3: into that role and was actually dominant. 534 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:19,160 Speaker 2: As game that he gets hurt and got hurt. 535 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:22,199 Speaker 3: He was our offense just kind of really seemed to 536 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 3: get the ball to two people. 537 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:24,960 Speaker 4: It really mattered. 538 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 3: Donovan never really got any targets, and then Set or 539 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:28,959 Speaker 3: Tilling went and they're like, Okay, you're not getting targets either. 540 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 4: You're gonna go block, and yeah, it was. 541 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:32,399 Speaker 1: It was unique that way when you got so many 542 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 1: different quarterbacks, you're you're just gonna go to the guy. 543 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, so you're not going to really be able to 544 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:37,360 Speaker 5: disperse the round. 545 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:38,920 Speaker 1: I want to ask you, guys a couple of questions 546 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:41,679 Speaker 1: about Elijah Moore in one moment, give me ten seconds here, 547 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:45,119 Speaker 1: let's pause ten seconds for station identification. All along the 548 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:49,720 Speaker 1: University Hospitals Cleveland Browns Radio Network broadcasting from a serpentin 549 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:56,160 Speaker 1: several late studio WKRKFN NHD one Cleveland Heights in honestly 550 00:23:56,200 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 1: sports station roll along here at the Cross Country Mortgage Campus, 551 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:03,119 Speaker 1: Ken Caramin alongside of Jerrod Cherry, Jim Donovan, Nathan Zegera. 552 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:05,120 Speaker 1: Nathan don't want to start with you about Elijah Moore 553 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:07,360 Speaker 1: because last year. 554 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:10,160 Speaker 5: We're hearing stories out of the Greenbrier. 555 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 4: Oh, they're using them on the backfield. 556 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:16,359 Speaker 1: And then when Nick got hurt, it almost became something 557 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 1: they had to do to just open up the offense 558 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 1: a little bit and get some breathing room for their 559 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 1: running game. And then he kind of got caught in 560 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:24,640 Speaker 1: the wash and by the end of the year there 561 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 1: was some solid play and then think he got hurt 562 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:28,320 Speaker 1: in the Jets game. 563 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 5: What do you do with Elijah Moore now this season? 564 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 3: I think is if you go back and watch as 565 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 3: the season evolved, they started off with them in that 566 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:38,360 Speaker 3: backfield role, and then Nick gets hurt, so then they're 567 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:39,640 Speaker 3: giving him three carries a game. 568 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 4: They're throwing them all the ball behind the line of. 569 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:44,120 Speaker 3: Scrimmage, all those short passes, and so he had a game, 570 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:47,679 Speaker 3: for example Tennessee nine catches for forty nine yards. And 571 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 3: then as the season went on, they said, you know what, 572 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:51,159 Speaker 3: let's let him play wide receiver. Let's let him do 573 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:52,440 Speaker 3: what he did, and that's when you got to see 574 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 3: some of his better games when the ball started to 575 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:56,200 Speaker 3: go his way, you know, five for forty four in 576 00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 3: a touchdown, six for sixty four, for eighty three, five 577 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:00,520 Speaker 3: for sixty one in a touchd on in less than 578 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:03,640 Speaker 3: a half against the Jets. I still like Elijah Moore 579 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:06,399 Speaker 3: quite a bit. It was still career highs and catches, 580 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 3: career highs and yards, you know, coming into the to 581 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 3: the Browns. 582 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:10,200 Speaker 4: But I think that he. 583 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 3: Almost played two different roles and shifted during the season 584 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 3: with five different four different people really throwing him the ball. 585 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:18,440 Speaker 3: I think that's a tough It was a tough situation 586 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:20,560 Speaker 3: just in general. And he saw when Flacco came in, 587 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:22,879 Speaker 3: when he was the primary guy, Flacco and he were 588 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 3: able to really kind of connect at a much better 589 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 3: level than he had been with anybody else early in 590 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:27,919 Speaker 3: the season. 591 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 2: You know. The other thing about him was if you 592 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:34,239 Speaker 2: really kind of go inside of his season, there were 593 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:37,720 Speaker 2: a couple of times where he made really big catches 594 00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:42,840 Speaker 2: at big moments in the game Pittsburgh when Dorian Thompson 595 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:45,200 Speaker 2: Robinson in there, they've got the ball for that last 596 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:47,520 Speaker 2: drive which led to the touchdown on a field goal 597 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:49,840 Speaker 2: that won the game for them. He made a big 598 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:52,919 Speaker 2: catch over the middle on a on a really a 599 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:54,879 Speaker 2: critical down where they're going to have to give the 600 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:57,159 Speaker 2: ball up and and then you know, you don't know 601 00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:58,680 Speaker 2: what's going to happen in the game, and he made 602 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 2: a big catch there. He made big catch either. He 603 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:03,960 Speaker 2: made a big catch in Baltimore, didn't he on the 604 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:06,680 Speaker 2: last drive coming down the field, he made a really 605 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:10,320 Speaker 2: big catch, made a big catch in Indianapolis on that 606 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:13,240 Speaker 2: last drive coming down. I thought that there were points 607 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:16,480 Speaker 2: where he made critical catches. And in that game against 608 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:19,480 Speaker 2: the Jets, he made one of the best plays of 609 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:23,120 Speaker 2: any of the receivers all season long. Where this will 610 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:25,400 Speaker 2: play right to you, Okay, I'm playing to you, Njerran. 611 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 2: He became a defensive back on the play, knocked the 612 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:32,480 Speaker 2: ball away from the Jet defensive back and caught it 613 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:35,679 Speaker 2: for a big play. So it wasn't a wealth of 614 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:38,280 Speaker 2: big plays. And you're right, I mean, we are fascinated Ken, 615 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:41,960 Speaker 2: You're right about the green Briar reports that, Wow, he's 616 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:43,920 Speaker 2: gonna run out of the backfield. I remember the night, 617 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 2: the rainy night against Washington in the preseason. He started 618 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:50,119 Speaker 2: is on the backfield. Remember, I mean, he was running 619 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 2: all over the place. But I thought, really he made 620 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 2: some he made some clutch plays. 621 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:56,600 Speaker 4: I thought he certainly did. 622 00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:58,600 Speaker 6: And the rest of the league got the memo that hey, 623 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 6: we're gonna uilize him in multi faceted robe. At the 624 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:03,800 Speaker 6: same time, early on in the season, there were some issues 625 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:06,680 Speaker 6: with turn the football over and not keeping in his possession. 626 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:09,640 Speaker 6: But ultimately, what I think took place is that defenses 627 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:12,679 Speaker 6: knew that we were having issues at the quarterback position 628 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:14,640 Speaker 6: and that passing wasn't truly a threat. 629 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:15,879 Speaker 4: So what are you gonna do as a defense. 630 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 6: You're gonna load up on an idea of stopping the 631 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:20,680 Speaker 6: run and you certainly not gonna let Gadget plays and 632 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:23,159 Speaker 6: a guy who's regarded as that person beat you. So 633 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:25,000 Speaker 6: I think that played a part in it. But once 634 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:28,000 Speaker 6: we saw him get stability at the quarterback position, once 635 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 6: Flacco got under center right, then you saw him flourish. 636 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:33,359 Speaker 6: And I'm assuming that the same thing that take place 637 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 6: this year with Watson because we saw. 638 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,400 Speaker 4: It in Greenbrier. One of the things that I'm excited about. 639 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:38,920 Speaker 3: And you go back to Jerry Judy and while the 640 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 3: numbers weren't gaud he averaged about nine yards of target 641 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:42,920 Speaker 3: for his career so far. 642 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:44,160 Speaker 4: That's efficient. 643 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:45,879 Speaker 3: You get a guy who's averaging nine yards of target 644 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:47,600 Speaker 3: a decent number of targets are gonna put up a 645 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:49,919 Speaker 3: lot of yards and be very productive. That puts you 646 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:52,280 Speaker 3: in the upper quartile in the NFL nine yards of 647 00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 3: target what Andrew Berry's collected. And I think this is 648 00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:57,480 Speaker 3: something that hasn't I haven't heard people talk about this much, 649 00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:00,240 Speaker 3: but Amari's one of the best players in the ENFL 650 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:02,160 Speaker 3: against man coverage. Jerry Judy is one of the best 651 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:04,399 Speaker 3: wide receivers in the NFL percentageoys against the man coverage, 652 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:06,359 Speaker 3: and so is Elijah in terms of his separation and 653 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:09,639 Speaker 3: his productivity against man coverage. And so we're gonna be 654 00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 3: an eleven personnel team. That's why they brought Kendorseian. Get 655 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 3: in the shotgun, spread you out. Now you hopefully have 656 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:17,480 Speaker 3: that run game still, You've got chief. Now we've got 657 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:19,199 Speaker 3: guys that can win one on one. And then if 658 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:21,119 Speaker 3: you can turn teams and say no, we're not gonna 659 00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 3: play man, we're gonna play zone, then quarterbacks can just 660 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:24,800 Speaker 3: pick you apart. 661 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:28,640 Speaker 6: Right, that is the goal create mismatches, and teams are 662 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:29,200 Speaker 6: hard pressed. 663 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 4: We're very fortunate. 664 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:33,200 Speaker 6: Most teams don't have two good corners lit alone three 665 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:35,000 Speaker 6: or four, right, and we're in a position where we 666 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 6: do have that. So that's exactly what you do, create 667 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:40,000 Speaker 6: mismatches with your receiver position. 668 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:42,120 Speaker 1: It made me a little bit defensive of the running 669 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:45,240 Speaker 1: backs a little. Jerome Ford's not Nick Chubb. You see 670 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:47,120 Speaker 1: thirty four from up in the stands and you think 671 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:49,360 Speaker 1: it's twenty four and it's like, he's not gonna be 672 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 1: able to create the holes that Nick does. 673 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,160 Speaker 5: Nick is a special running back. We all know that. 674 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:56,160 Speaker 1: But it's where you take the head off the top 675 00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:58,560 Speaker 1: of the running game and you found out how really 676 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 1: valuable Nick was. But then it's you're trying to find 677 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 1: your running game, and it's exactly what Girod says. It's 678 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:06,200 Speaker 1: not just trying to find the running game. You got 679 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 1: different quarterbacks in there, so now they're gonna line up 680 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:10,320 Speaker 1: and try to stop the run first and dare you 681 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:13,320 Speaker 1: to try to throw the football. And Joe Flacco had 682 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 1: a hot hand. But I thought it made their job 683 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:17,920 Speaker 1: with running with the running back room that much more tough. 684 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:18,120 Speaker 2: For me. 685 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:18,520 Speaker 4: It did. 686 00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:20,800 Speaker 3: But what's incredible is if you out of what Jerome Ford, 687 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:24,400 Speaker 3: Cream Hunt, Pierre Strong did, they had almost nineteen hundred 688 00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:27,240 Speaker 3: total yards from scrimmage and nineteen touchdowns. 689 00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:28,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, we would have signed up for that. 690 00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:32,479 Speaker 3: It's kind of unbelievable, and yet you hope to get 691 00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:34,440 Speaker 3: Nick back. I still want to see more Pierre Strong. 692 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:37,720 Speaker 3: I think he's dangerous. He's got that acceleration. Even if 693 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 3: you're eight hundred miles high in Houston, you can see 694 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 3: his juice. 695 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:48,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, I know he's prone to exaggerate, but he's not. 696 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:53,480 Speaker 1: He's right about that Seattle pick number. They're pick sixteen 697 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:55,920 Speaker 1: that is in right now. We're kind of in a 698 00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:58,479 Speaker 1: holding pattern right now in the NFL draft. All right, 699 00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:00,440 Speaker 1: Joe Alt, real quick? What type of what type of 700 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 1: players are gonna be? 701 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:01,760 Speaker 4: You know how to ask? 702 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:04,080 Speaker 2: I want to say his interesting story about him because 703 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:06,280 Speaker 2: his dad was a great player, right, His dad was 704 00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:09,080 Speaker 2: a great offensive lineman with the Chiefs. He knew that 705 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:12,960 Speaker 2: Joell wanted to play offensive line as a kid. Okay, 706 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:14,960 Speaker 2: to be like dad. His dad said, you're not going 707 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 2: to play offensive line. I'm not going to let you 708 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:22,240 Speaker 2: play offensive line. So he made him play linebacker, defensive end, 709 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:25,800 Speaker 2: things like that. Why because I want your feet to 710 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:30,480 Speaker 2: really get quick. So he didn't play offensive line until 711 00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,960 Speaker 2: deep into high school and when he then finally went 712 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 2: to college and went to Notre Dame and he went 713 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:38,880 Speaker 2: to Notre Dame and really kind of YouTube. 714 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 4: In the United. 715 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:44,800 Speaker 7: States military, your sacrifice is defend our countries. 716 00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:47,040 Speaker 5: Freedom do not go unnoticed. 717 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 2: Thank you so much. 718 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 7: With the sixteen pick in the twenty twenty four NFL 719 00:30:53,680 --> 00:31:01,440 Speaker 7: Draft to Seattle Seahawks Byron Murphy, defensive tackle Texas. 720 00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:06,320 Speaker 1: All right, Bier Murphy off the board? What lord, odric 721 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:10,120 Speaker 1: estime tomorrow Saturday. 722 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:15,840 Speaker 2: Blazing speed, really good runner, Yeah, I mean, you know, 723 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:20,640 Speaker 2: at breakaway speed. I think, really played. I think plays 724 00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:23,080 Speaker 2: very very well. I think he'll be a running back. 725 00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:25,480 Speaker 2: I think that would really give a team, you know, 726 00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:28,760 Speaker 2: a nice pleasant surprise. He would really I think grow 727 00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:31,320 Speaker 2: into a role as a as a lead back in 728 00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:33,760 Speaker 2: the NFL. I do. But the kid Alt, I think 729 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:35,400 Speaker 2: he definitely would be a left tackle. 730 00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:37,960 Speaker 3: What do you think of as we talk about, you know, 731 00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:40,920 Speaker 3: tackles for the browns Alt obviously off the board, but 732 00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:43,200 Speaker 3: his teammate Blake Fisher or somebody who could be there, 733 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:44,000 Speaker 3: yeah tomorrow. 734 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:47,480 Speaker 2: That's how Alt got into the lineup because Fisher got hurt, 735 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:51,120 Speaker 2: so really all would have been delayed even getting into 736 00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:53,840 Speaker 2: the Notre Dame thing, into the offensive line because they 737 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,520 Speaker 2: really did have a very good offensive line. But Fisher 738 00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:59,520 Speaker 2: got hurt, but that would be a really interesting pickup. 739 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:03,240 Speaker 2: He's really he's now healthy. He had a meniscus problem. 740 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:06,560 Speaker 2: I would think he would have really if healthy, totally, 741 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:08,080 Speaker 2: I think he would have been a first round pick. 742 00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:09,720 Speaker 4: Well, that sounds like the kind of guy Andrew Berry 743 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:11,160 Speaker 4: likes to get. There, you go outside of. 744 00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:13,880 Speaker 2: The first round. That's it from the South Bend Bureau. 745 00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:19,240 Speaker 2: That's it. 746 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:21,560 Speaker 5: Well, the reason I asked about I know, we gotta go. 747 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:24,080 Speaker 1: But the reason I asked about Audricstamate, I went to 748 00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:27,800 Speaker 1: that Wake Forest game, told me the PA guy is outstanding. 749 00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:31,120 Speaker 1: I think he's new, and they it was senior day. 750 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:34,000 Speaker 1: They fed him the ball like twenty two times, and 751 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:37,080 Speaker 1: you just kept hearing his name, and so everybody up 752 00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:38,760 Speaker 1: in the stands is saying his name with it. So 753 00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:41,560 Speaker 1: it's like, well, I'm gonna act like I know who 754 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:44,120 Speaker 1: this guy is, really gonna get what this guy is 755 00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:45,600 Speaker 1: really gonna be able to give a team, so I 756 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:47,120 Speaker 1: can act like I know what I'm talking about. 757 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:49,120 Speaker 2: There, that was the whole idea. I think he'll give 758 00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:51,120 Speaker 2: a team. I think he would be a lead back 759 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:51,840 Speaker 2: in the NFL. 760 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:53,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, I would like to see it all right, but 761 00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:56,280 Speaker 1: really he's moved up for the second time. Okay, Minnesota 762 00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:58,120 Speaker 1: has moved up, so we'll hold off on a break 763 00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:01,160 Speaker 1: here for just a second. Minnesota's back to pick seventeen. 764 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:05,000 Speaker 1: They've moved in with the Jaguars, where Tony Kahan took 765 00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:07,120 Speaker 1: a tombstone pile driver last night. I don't know if 766 00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:09,200 Speaker 1: you noticed that there. Nathan and his Day came running 767 00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:14,520 Speaker 1: out a dB right here the Jaguars twenty third overall, 768 00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:17,240 Speaker 1: the fifth round pick one sixty seven, then a twenty 769 00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:21,000 Speaker 1: twenty five to third and fourth the Jaguars got for that. 770 00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:22,720 Speaker 3: It could be if it is a corner, that would 771 00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:24,840 Speaker 3: be kind of remember back in twenty eighteen when the 772 00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:27,880 Speaker 3: Browns got Baker and Denzel Ward in the same draft. 773 00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:30,000 Speaker 3: For Quaycy could be trying to get you know, his 774 00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:33,400 Speaker 3: quarterback JJ McCarthy and then perhaps an opportunity at seventeen 775 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:35,520 Speaker 3: to get the number one corner. I was gonna say, 776 00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:37,640 Speaker 3: who's the toping on Mitch, who's the top receiver kid 777 00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:38,640 Speaker 3: out of Bryant? 778 00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:40,600 Speaker 4: The other LSU kid play for four years? You know 779 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:41,680 Speaker 4: what good player? Point? 780 00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:42,280 Speaker 5: Good point? 781 00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:44,400 Speaker 1: Here comes Roger Goodell. So we're gonna find out here 782 00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:46,000 Speaker 1: in just a moment. Yeah, girond, I mean you see 783 00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:46,880 Speaker 1: him the player bunch. 784 00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:52,480 Speaker 7: Wuars have traded the seventeenth pick to the Minnesota Vikings. 785 00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:57,160 Speaker 7: With the seventeenth pick in the twenty twenty four NFL Draft, 786 00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:01,040 Speaker 7: the Minnesota Vikings select Dallas Turner. 787 00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:06,960 Speaker 4: So that makes that makes sense right? Yeah? 788 00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:10,719 Speaker 3: You let Daniel Hunter goes unfortunately to Houston. He's mad 789 00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:13,759 Speaker 3: along with everybody else. And Zoe, what you're able to 790 00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:16,440 Speaker 3: now you get your quarterback. Kirk Cousins leaves. You're replacing 791 00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:19,680 Speaker 3: with JJ McCarthy. Daniel Hunter leaves you replacing with Dallas Turner. 792 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:21,719 Speaker 1: Jim, we can't thank you enough for the time. Hey, 793 00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:24,399 Speaker 1: we're seeing you guys. Yes, sir, we thank you very much. 794 00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:26,760 Speaker 1: And of course we're looking forward to best hearing everything 795 00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:28,719 Speaker 1: as we get ready for training camp coming up, because 796 00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:31,040 Speaker 1: we'll blake and it'll be here so slowly. 797 00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:32,799 Speaker 4: We haven't even gotten to the foot where we can 798 00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:35,239 Speaker 4: play golf. Don't wish this summer to be over yet. 799 00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:37,640 Speaker 2: I took a lesson last week. I want to hear 800 00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:40,319 Speaker 2: to tell you more during because I think a lot 801 00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:43,440 Speaker 2: of golfers are please. You took that check a lot 802 00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:43,759 Speaker 2: of people. 803 00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:45,799 Speaker 4: I think the house is laning them. 804 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:49,600 Speaker 2: The window makers, you know Universal windows. 805 00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:52,840 Speaker 3: Are you the one in that video or that guy's 806 00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:54,600 Speaker 3: like I'm mad, I'm real mad, right. 807 00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:59,759 Speaker 1: Anyway, Yeah, Minnesota they are off the board, and now 808 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:03,920 Speaker 1: Cincinnati at pick number eighteen. We'll make their selection when 809 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:06,480 Speaker 1: we come back. It's the Cleveland Browns Draft Show on 810 00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:09,640 Speaker 1: the University Hospitals Cleveland Brown's radio network.