1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:05,000 Speaker 1: This is the almost famous podcast with iHeartRadio. Hey everybody, 2 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:09,000 Speaker 1: this is Trista. You are listening to the almost Famous 3 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:12,879 Speaker 1: OG podcast. And unfortunately my co host can't be here today, 4 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 1: but if he surprises us and is able to come, 5 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:18,799 Speaker 1: that will be amazing. I'm just going to plan on 6 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:22,960 Speaker 1: doing this interview by myself, and it is with Marion Jones, 7 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 1: who is one of my fellow recruits on season three 8 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 1: of Special Forces and one of my favorites. Love this woman, 9 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:38,520 Speaker 1: so many great memories with her on the course. If 10 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 1: you don't recognize her name, you must be living under 11 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:44,559 Speaker 1: a rock because she is a former American track and 12 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:49,239 Speaker 1: field athlete and Olympic gold medalist. She was one of 13 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:53,280 Speaker 1: the most successful sprinters in the late like nineties and 14 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 1: early two thousands. She won five medals, three gold, two bronze, 15 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 1: becoming the first woman to win five track and field 16 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:08,320 Speaker 1: medals at a single Olympics. She did get involved in 17 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 1: controversy when she admitted in two thousand and seven to 18 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 1: using performance enhancing drugs, leading to her Olympic medals being 19 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 1: taken away. Gosh, after all that hard work, I'm really 20 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 1: anxious to talk to her about her feelings and you know, 21 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:29,760 Speaker 1: all kinds of stuff. Anyway, I am really excited to 22 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 1: welcome Marian Jones to the podcast. 23 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 2: You looks so cute in your little pink cats. 24 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 1: Oh thanks. Okay, so let's get into it. 25 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 3: Season three Special Forces best Ever? 26 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 4: Right? 27 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 3: Crazy? Best ever? 28 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 1: Uh? Huh? Had you been asked to do previous seasons? 29 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 1: And when you were asked? What was your initial reaction? 30 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 2: Was not asked to do previous seasons? And I am 31 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 2: so glad Christa that I hadn't really watched the previous 32 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 2: two seasons because I'm not sure I would have agreed 33 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 2: to it. No, you know, I mean the best part 34 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 2: of all of this. I'll just start off by saying, 35 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 2: the best part of all of this was getting a 36 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:24,080 Speaker 2: chance to meet you all and see you all, because 37 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:26,640 Speaker 2: I think the true character of people comes out in 38 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 2: their hardest moments, right, and the world sees all of 39 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:38,920 Speaker 2: us in like these shining moments. But when it really 40 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 2: comes down to it, they picked a group of people 41 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:45,919 Speaker 2: that were so incredible, but more so like incredible together, 42 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 2: Like we're like there was no anything underneath the surface. 43 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 2: What you saw was what you've got in terms of 44 00:02:54,520 --> 00:03:00,359 Speaker 2: like team family bonding, camaraderie, respect, and that is what 45 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 2: I get when I reflect on it most out of everything. 46 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 3: Same, same girl, Same. 47 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 1: I feel like that was the main reason that I 48 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 1: wanted to do It was just for the camaraderie to 49 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 1: meet people that I never would have gotten the chance 50 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 1: to meet otherwise. And it really was such a great 51 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:21,239 Speaker 1: group of people. 52 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:22,959 Speaker 3: Just we got so lucky. 53 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it didn't it didn't matter like who 54 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 2: left the room. You know, like in some situations you're like, 55 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 2: oh no, they're leaving. I am stuck with the rest 56 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 2: of these people. It like that at all. So No, 57 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 2: to answer your original question, just I was not asked 58 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 2: to do the previous seasons. Were you asked to do 59 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 2: the previous season? 60 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 3: No, I wasn't. This was the first time. 61 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 1: How did you feel when they approached you, Like, what 62 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 1: was your initial reaction? Like what like me, I said, 63 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 1: hell no. 64 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 2: Well, my initial reaction was I need to go and 65 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 2: watch the previous two seasons first, and then after that, 66 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 2: I was definitely intrigued because I've had this secret obsession 67 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 2: with Navy seals and I think in another world that 68 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:18,280 Speaker 2: would have really appealed to me, and I would have 69 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 2: been the first woman ever this or you know, I 70 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 2: just really felt like that and so and I was 71 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 2: just kind of looking for looking for a little challenge, 72 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 2: a little extra, something outside of the norm. And I 73 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 2: think as I get older, like that is so necessary 74 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 2: every year of your life, you know, once she hit whatever, 75 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 2: forty five and on, like you have to do something 76 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 2: every year that like challenges you more than just like 77 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 2: doing something new, I mean just like challenge you to 78 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:55,039 Speaker 2: the core, if I can say that. So, after I 79 00:04:55,080 --> 00:05:00,920 Speaker 2: saw the first two seasons, I was like, yeah, this. 80 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 3: This it's amazing. 81 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:04,599 Speaker 1: I mean, it really is to me like a once 82 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 1: in a lifetime opportunity. You know, not a lot of 83 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:10,040 Speaker 1: people you can't pay for this kind of stuff. So 84 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:13,039 Speaker 1: that was another reason I was like, this is an 85 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 1: incredible opportunity that I don't take lightly. And I am 86 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 1: so excited and grateful to be part of so and 87 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 1: I know you feel the same way. 88 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 2: But I will tell you, I mean there was a 89 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:27,920 Speaker 2: little anxiousness, I suppose on who they were going to 90 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 2: put together, right, because they can totally do their doomsday 91 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 2: magic by putting together sixteen people whom they know for 92 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 2: whatever reason, like different views or who they sent themselves 93 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 2: to be that could have clashed, which would be good TV, right, 94 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 2: and ultimately we know that's what they're looking for, is 95 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 2: good TV. But it wasn't like that at all. It 96 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 2: wasn't like that one bit. 97 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 1: No, I totally agree. One of my favorite memories and 98 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 1: I'd love for you to share one of your is. 99 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:02,839 Speaker 2: Well. 100 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:04,159 Speaker 3: I have two and I've told you. 101 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 1: I think I've told you this, and yeah, I said, 102 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 1: you're You're part of two of my favorite memories. One 103 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:14,480 Speaker 1: was we were in the in the vehicle. It was me, you, Jordan, 104 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:20,159 Speaker 1: and Kayla, and you said, can I say a prayer 105 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:26,360 Speaker 1: for us? And we all were like, yes please, and 106 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:29,799 Speaker 1: you said the most beautiful prayer and I just oh, 107 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:33,239 Speaker 1: it just grounded me and made me feel like, Okay, 108 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 1: we got this, you know we can do this. 109 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 3: Just thank you for that. The second one. 110 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:46,840 Speaker 1: Wash for buds Buds training on the beach. We were 111 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 1: both exhausted, and I want you to talk. We'll talk 112 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 1: a little bit about that. But at the end of 113 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 1: that exercise, that task, both of us were pretty much 114 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 1: at the end. I think we were both we were 115 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 1: we were taking up the caboose and and. 116 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:08,600 Speaker 3: You were right ahead of me in the water. 117 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 1: We were walking like we had to run along the 118 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 1: beach and then walk through the water and run along 119 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 1: the beach and walk through the water. And I ran 120 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 1: up to you and grabbed your hand and I'm like, 121 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 1: I just need to hold somebody's hand right now, and 122 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 1: she's right there. 123 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 3: I'm reaching out for you and you didn't let go, 124 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 3: So thank you for that. 125 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 2: Well, let's let's and I'll share what my favorite memories are. 126 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 2: But I'm going to just reflect a moment on what 127 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 2: you just shared, so you know, it's it's no secret 128 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 2: that there have been some tough times in my space 129 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 2: and in my world, and I have really learned that 130 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 2: when you can do nothing about your situation, right like 131 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 2: we're there. We made the choice to be like, we 132 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 2: literally made the choice to be there, and without really 133 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 2: knowing what to expect. But always I've always always always 134 00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 2: found that by reaching out and asking for guidance and 135 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 2: just protection, like he never lets us down, right, yes, 136 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 2: and we were able to get through it. And I 137 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 2: don't know, it's always just been my sense of comfort 138 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 2: and I always ask always because you know, people believe differently, 139 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 2: And it was so comforting to be in that space, 140 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 2: in that moment of discomfort with three other badass women 141 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 2: who you know, we're like, yeah, we're we're badass in 142 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 2: all and we can do some amazing things, but sometimes 143 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 2: we need a little bit of extra, and in that moment, 144 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 2: a little bit of extra, And I'm so glad that 145 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 2: it brought comfort to everybody. And oh gosh, that that 146 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 2: darn beach scene there. We couldn't, we couldn't. It's just funny, 147 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 2: I will we will. Let me set it up a 148 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:49,440 Speaker 2: little bit by sharing that by that point in the show, 149 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 2: we were pretty much exhausted of anything water related, right, like, 150 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 2: of course everybody has seen the initial push us off 151 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 2: the boat when we're not expecting it to get the 152 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:04,840 Speaker 2: most like what the what the f reaction from all 153 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 2: of us, And so from there you think, Okay, there's 154 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 2: probably not gonna be too many more water scenes, especially 155 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:15,319 Speaker 2: based off of the previous seasons. And then of course 156 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 2: you have the I don't even know the specific names 157 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 2: of them, Trista, but the one we're all drowning in 158 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 2: the pool. Of course we have that. 159 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 3: That's the behive. 160 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 2: And then after that there's trauma and there's all kinds 161 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:31,839 Speaker 2: of anxiety and we're saying to ourselves there's no way, Yes, 162 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 2: there's no way they're going to put any of us 163 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:37,840 Speaker 2: through any of that. And then you have to go 164 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:43,319 Speaker 2: out there and the sand part of it all, and. 165 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 5: The the temperature trista of the water, the facts that 166 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 5: and in reflection, like you understand why they do it 167 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 5: in these combat training missions, right, like you have to 168 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:01,679 Speaker 5: learn to rely on your people, right, and. 169 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 2: The idea that our arms had to be locked like 170 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:07,079 Speaker 2: and remember they were yelling at us when we would 171 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 2: loosen up the grip a little bit to to be 172 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:12,840 Speaker 2: able to own our own body, and they would be like, 173 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:19,200 Speaker 2: And I was connected to Landing on one side and 174 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 2: Alana on the other side. And they're big people, right 175 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:26,960 Speaker 2: that can use the momentum of their weight to go forward. 176 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:30,439 Speaker 2: And I'm sure I weighed more than both of them combined. 177 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 2: So I'm trying to thrust I'm trying to thrust my 178 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 2: feet forward a lot of stuck backwards in the water. 179 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:44,200 Speaker 2: Landing's doing a flip. I was just like done, and 180 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:47,960 Speaker 2: then this hair was all in my face and my 181 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 2: arms are I can't even get it out, Like my 182 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 2: locks are going up in my nose, they're going in 183 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 2: my mouth. 184 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:54,560 Speaker 4: It was a. 185 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:59,080 Speaker 2: Mess, and you know, they just beat you down and 186 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:02,440 Speaker 2: beat you down, and you reaching out for me was 187 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:04,960 Speaker 2: as much of a comfort to me as maybe it 188 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 2: was to you to know that, all right, okay, like 189 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 2: I'm not the only one that really is suck wind 190 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 2: and questioning all life decisions at that moment. Totally, totally, 191 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 2: the warmth of your hand, the genuineness of your ass. 192 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 2: It was just simply like there was nothing more that 193 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 2: you need it out of it than to have like 194 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 2: human touch, like somebody, because what they do is they 195 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 2: turn you so much against them almost each other, because 196 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:38,320 Speaker 2: I start getting mad at the people whom I'm connecting to, 197 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:40,720 Speaker 2: right like like we got to do this in sanc 198 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:43,679 Speaker 2: we got to be on rhythm and you this like 199 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:47,440 Speaker 2: like hateful feeling inside of you, and so you reaching out. 200 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 2: And however it transpired me saying to myself, okay, pause, breed, 201 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 2: not literally pause or else we've got cursed at but 202 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:03,560 Speaker 2: like somebody is right here and they're championing for you 203 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 2: and we're in this together. And yeah, it got me 204 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 2: through it. But you know, there were so many moments 205 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 2: that just really make me smile and giggle. I there 206 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 2: was one moment, and a lot of them were not captured, right, 207 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 2: Like I shouldn't say that they were all captured, but 208 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:23,560 Speaker 2: a lot of them weren't, you know, edited into the 209 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:28,200 Speaker 2: final show. But some of our moments in the in 210 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 2: the sauna heating room whatever we're calling it that they 211 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 2: pulled us supposed are the drawing room. 212 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 3: I think somebody it's in the warming room. I think 213 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 3: it's the warming room. 214 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 2: I heard also somebody called it the drawing room because 215 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:44,200 Speaker 2: we're supposed to dry our clothes, which is the biggest 216 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:51,960 Speaker 2: lie in the history of Hollywood. I'd really right. And 217 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:56,679 Speaker 2: that's where you started to see people's like like, oh, 218 00:12:56,760 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 2: like I've to fend for myself this, like because the 219 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 2: amount of clothes that were by the heaters and how 220 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:05,720 Speaker 2: things were being moved away, and all of a sudden, 221 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 2: like I put my socks right over the heater and 222 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 2: when I came back two hours ago, it was like 223 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 2: tossed in the corner. 224 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 1: Like totally, you can't find your clothes, like if you 225 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:18,960 Speaker 1: go in there to find them, especially when it's like 226 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 1: a chaotic time and they're like yelling at us to hurry, Gosh, 227 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:23,679 Speaker 1: it's impossible. 228 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:28,680 Speaker 2: But one of the moments that was the most special 229 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 2: to me are were our times in there. I don't 230 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 2: know if we thought that that was like like confidential 231 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 2: confessional where nobody was hearing. I don't know. I think 232 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:42,680 Speaker 2: we all forgot that everything that we said and did 233 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:46,840 Speaker 2: was being recorded. But the genuine moments in there where 234 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 2: I think we were experiencing a little bit of comfort 235 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 2: with the heat, a moment of downtime where we can 236 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 2: breathe and reflect and cry and laugh and pray and 237 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:02,840 Speaker 2: be comforted. And I had come back from what I'm 238 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 2: calling confessional, and you don't really where to turn when 239 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 2: you come back when I when I came back from that, right, 240 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 2: So I went into the heating room and Cam was 241 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:15,960 Speaker 2: in there, and you know he's People have asked me 242 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 2: like so much about Cam, Yeah, like tell me about himy, 243 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 2: Like is he is he a mean guy? Right? Because 244 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 2: the show has did a little bit of like making 245 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 2: him look like he's this aggressive, which we all know 246 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 2: he is so far the opposite of the biggest teddy bear, 247 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 2: the warmest, most genuine And he just gave me a hug, 248 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 2: and I just felt like this this massive dude, just 249 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 2: like Bill m J. You're good like and that thing 250 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:52,200 Speaker 2: else and that was one of the moments that stood out. 251 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 2: A second moment of mine was after our beach fiasco 252 00:14:57,400 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 2: and I think I was in a in the truck 253 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 2: with Nathan. 254 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 3: And after the beach. 255 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 2: Klea was old and golden, and I was done, like 256 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 2: I was starting to like have a little bit of hypothermia. 257 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 2: I was starting you know, you were. 258 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 1: Not starting to have a little bit of hypothermia. You 259 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 1: were hypothermic right along with me. It just in another car. 260 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 2: I was trying to stay warm, and I just started 261 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 2: to like not pass out, but yes, like lose a 262 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 2: little bit of like cognitive stuff happening and go like 263 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 2: everybody in there was just like to the producers, to 264 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 2: everybody like okay, like enough of like this is the show. 265 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 2: We need to pause, we need to bring medical here. 266 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 2: To the point where Kayla was was crying right And 267 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 2: when they came back, they gave me a little sugar 268 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 2: to kind of get my blood sugar back up, and 269 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:01,800 Speaker 2: like that was like again and another moment. I've never 270 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 2: had any type of hypothermia or panic or any of them. 271 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 2: But to see my teammates and my my I call 272 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 2: my family now like to say, you know what, like, 273 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 2: this is not a show, this is real life, and 274 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 2: you all need to do something. And I'm so sad 275 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 2: that they edited that part out, and I think for reasons, 276 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 2: but it really showed empathy amongst my castmates. And I mean, 277 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 2: it's just a special moment. And again, my moments that 278 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 2: stand out for me and Trista are the moments of 279 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 2: bonding and camaraderie. And although the moments that they showed 280 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:48,160 Speaker 2: aren't intense and they're aggressive, what I take away from 281 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 2: it is just an incredible warming sense of family that 282 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 2: they put together these complete strangers and we figured out 283 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 2: a way how to just crush it. Crush it in 284 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 2: a good way, meaning know humanity, that you can have 285 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:06,200 Speaker 2: so many different personalities and people and levels of success, 286 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:12,360 Speaker 2: and we figure out how to live together, a fight together, 287 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:17,639 Speaker 2: function together, and just create something beautiful. So that's my 288 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 2: takeaway from it all. 289 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 3: I love it. 290 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:33,439 Speaker 1: So let's talk about that that after the beach a 291 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 1: little bit, because Okay, so I'm in a car with 292 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:41,159 Speaker 1: Christy and Cam. You're in the car with Kayla and 293 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:46,440 Speaker 1: Nathan and Nate Golden, and I go through what happened 294 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:51,439 Speaker 1: to me and seems like we were very much in 295 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:55,879 Speaker 1: similar places. But I was always conscious, like I was 296 00:17:57,240 --> 00:18:01,880 Speaker 1: what did Kayla call it? Unresponsive? Was always responsive. So 297 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:05,359 Speaker 1: I get warmed by Christy like they have me on 298 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 1: their lap, you know, wrapped me up blankets or coats 299 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 1: and tons of coats. 300 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:11,679 Speaker 3: Are on top of me. 301 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:15,200 Speaker 1: Finally get my clothes changed and I'm okay, and I'm 302 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 1: I'm warming up more. They open the door and Kayla 303 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:23,119 Speaker 1: comes in and she was like a shell of herself, 304 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:25,679 Speaker 1: Like I was like, what is wrong? 305 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:26,639 Speaker 3: Like what haed? 306 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 1: Like she she was not there. She was like totally crying. 307 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:35,040 Speaker 1: Same and at first she would not talk and I 308 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:37,959 Speaker 1: was like, what is happening? And she finally she was like, 309 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:41,439 Speaker 1: Marian is unresponsive. Like they made us leave so the 310 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:43,920 Speaker 1: medics could like finally take care of her, and she's 311 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:46,720 Speaker 1: like I kept asking. I kept asking for help. I 312 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:49,359 Speaker 1: kept asking for help, and the medics were just I 313 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:52,960 Speaker 1: don't know, because we had already left, Like it's not 314 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:56,640 Speaker 1: like they were we were all still at the beach exit. 315 00:18:57,080 --> 00:18:58,919 Speaker 1: We were we had already been on the road for 316 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 1: a bit. So I think that's what happened. But talk 317 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 1: to me about what was going through your mind, like 318 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:10,480 Speaker 1: was it was it fear? Was it tell me about 319 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:11,399 Speaker 1: what was going on? 320 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:15,439 Speaker 2: It's always for me about fear of failure, Like that 321 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 2: is my overriding thing. Failure to myself, failure to my family, 322 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:26,159 Speaker 2: my kids, all my supporters right pull in for me, 323 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:33,119 Speaker 2: you know, folks that see me and my journey and 324 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 2: use it for like motivation and inspiration, right. And my 325 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 2: fear that like I didn't live up to what I 326 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:49,199 Speaker 2: know I could even even if it was out of 327 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 2: my control. Right, So I think that was that was 328 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:58,199 Speaker 2: huge for me. The panic just took over because I 329 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 2: couldn't control my temperature, Like I couldn't get warm, which 330 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:05,879 Speaker 2: was a fear of mind going into this all in 331 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:08,879 Speaker 2: all of it is that like how to control myself 332 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:10,680 Speaker 2: when I get cold, because I don't do very well 333 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 2: in the cold, let alone. You put water with that, right, 334 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:16,119 Speaker 2: So that was like I can get I can be 335 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 2: in shape going there and like all of those type 336 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:23,920 Speaker 2: of things, but you put water and cold and like stress, 337 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 2: I don't I don't know that world, and so I 338 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:29,880 Speaker 2: don't know how my body would react to it. Now 339 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 2: I know, like I just couldn't get warm, and I 340 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:36,439 Speaker 2: mean even with big Nate Warm, Nathan and Golden and 341 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:39,959 Speaker 2: Kayla like giving me all of their stuff right and 342 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:42,879 Speaker 2: throwing it on me, and like I just I just 343 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:46,239 Speaker 2: kept shivering shivering until I just I don't remember a 344 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 2: certain little point of it all. And yeah, I can 345 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 2: remember like kind of just like where am I the 346 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 2: medic giving me some sugar? Kaylk do just bawling and mad. 347 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:01,119 Speaker 2: Not only was she just was she crying, but she 348 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:03,919 Speaker 2: was mad. She was mad at the show for not 349 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:11,200 Speaker 2: having quicker access to the medics, y and in essence 350 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:15,400 Speaker 2: like them having to deal with that because that's trauma, 351 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:19,080 Speaker 2: even that's trauma for them, like what to do? Like 352 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 2: I can remember for a little while, Kayla's like what God, 353 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:24,040 Speaker 2: what do we do? What do we do? And I'm 354 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 2: just like, well, I'm not saying anything but just shivering. 355 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:30,680 Speaker 2: I can't really say anything. And so what I take 356 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:34,880 Speaker 2: away from that is just, man like, how can we 357 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:40,639 Speaker 2: learn to navigate those type of situations? Like what could 358 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:45,480 Speaker 2: I have done in that situation right to control maybe 359 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 2: my breathing. I've gone over so many different things tresses 360 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 2: since the show on what I could have done to 361 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 2: better prepare right, Yeah, and physically not a lot, right, 362 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 2: I mean, knowing some of the challenge would have helped, 363 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 2: but we didn't. I did what I could do in 364 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:08,959 Speaker 2: terms of aerobic capacity, but maybe some like breathing techniques 365 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 2: you know, you know in the cold or in the heat, 366 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 2: because I mean we did know that we were going 367 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 2: to be in whales. That was about the only information 368 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:18,920 Speaker 2: that we knew. We knew that it was going to 369 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 2: be colder, and we knew there was gonna be some water, 370 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:26,399 Speaker 2: So maybe some like even some of the did you 371 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:31,479 Speaker 2: receive Trista some workouts beforehand loose working? 372 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:35,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, right, I did. 373 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 2: I did, which I don't think did anything to prepare 374 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 2: any of us for any of that, but you know, 375 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:46,680 Speaker 2: for the future castmates of the show, like definitely being 376 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:50,960 Speaker 2: confident with like bringing your heart rate down and focusing 377 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:55,439 Speaker 2: on your breathing and different meditation type practices that you 378 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:58,439 Speaker 2: can you know, incorporate in all of that. 379 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:00,719 Speaker 3: But yeah, great advice. 380 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:03,240 Speaker 2: And then the fact that they I mean to me, 381 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:06,679 Speaker 2: it's kind of good TV, all right, Like looking from 382 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:10,960 Speaker 2: the outside in right, you had killing Nicole bawling. You 383 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 2: have these two strong athletes in Golden and Nathan like 384 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:19,040 Speaker 2: almost panicking, I'm sure, like what do we do? What 385 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:23,119 Speaker 2: do we do? And so my take on and then Trista, 386 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 2: I want you to share with me what yours are. 387 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 2: Like my take in why it wasn't potentially edited in 388 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 2: is because like it started to become more than what 389 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 2: I think they anticipated it for, like like unnecessarily brutal. Right, 390 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:47,360 Speaker 2: And it's a fine line that I think they had 391 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:49,720 Speaker 2: to walk in terms of what they're going to show 392 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 2: the world like what it really was. 393 00:23:53,720 --> 00:24:00,680 Speaker 6: And it potentially doesn't look so good for them the show, right, right, 394 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:03,080 Speaker 6: that if you show all. 395 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 2: Of the moments that were just unnecessarily brutal. 396 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I get it. I know you get 397 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:14,160 Speaker 1: it too, Like there's a reason that they're doing all this, 398 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:17,159 Speaker 1: and you know, they kept saying, this is stuff that 399 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:20,720 Speaker 1: we've been through. We're putting you through the real deal. 400 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 1: And I know that the budstraining on the beach was 401 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 1: the real deal. Like they legitimately do that and push 402 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:31,480 Speaker 1: you to your limit. And at one point I almost 403 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 1: gave up, and Rudy was like, because I thought I 404 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 1: was gonna faint and my body was starting to you know, 405 00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:40,399 Speaker 1: give up on me, and he was like, well, you 406 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:41,920 Speaker 1: have to give me your armband and I'm like, I'm 407 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:44,639 Speaker 1: not ready to leave, so they just keep pushing you, 408 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 1: which I appreciate now, but yeah, I feel like it 409 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:51,560 Speaker 1: was it was brutal. 410 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 3: Like that's the perfect word. It was brutal. 411 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:57,479 Speaker 2: It's brutal with a group of people. It's brutal for 412 00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:02,320 Speaker 2: those that have made the decision to go into that line, 413 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:09,240 Speaker 2: into that career path, right, Yeah, who have researched, maybe 414 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:12,240 Speaker 2: they had people in their family, maybe they've even been 415 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 2: in the military forum a number of years to slowly 416 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:20,120 Speaker 2: prepare them for that. But then you have sixteen individuals 417 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:24,399 Speaker 2: with zero background in that type of training. And so 418 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 2: that's when I when I talk about you get to 419 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:29,720 Speaker 2: the fine line of how much can you, like should 420 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:33,960 Speaker 2: you give them even if it looks like how and 421 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:35,200 Speaker 2: what they've been through. 422 00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:37,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, you would never just take. 423 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:42,360 Speaker 2: Anybody off the street and like put them and put 424 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:45,359 Speaker 2: them through it. Yeah, throw them in that pool and 425 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:49,960 Speaker 2: expect them to tread water with whatever temperature water and trampling. 426 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 2: You wouldn't do that. 427 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 3: It's intense, that is for sure. 428 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:54,919 Speaker 1: I Mean, we signed up for it, and you know, 429 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:57,880 Speaker 1: Q kept reminding me of that you signed up for this. 430 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:00,760 Speaker 3: You you can go home, should go home. 431 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:05,680 Speaker 2: I loved how Rudy and you know, we can get 432 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:10,159 Speaker 2: to this, uh in regards to all of the DS's 433 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:13,160 Speaker 2: and staff and all that, but a few of them 434 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:18,040 Speaker 2: just had a way of making you feel like you 435 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 2: can still do it, like in their way, right did 436 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 2: you who of wore? If you can say, did you 437 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:27,840 Speaker 2: feel like that? Like when they talked to you, Yeah, 438 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:31,679 Speaker 2: they had to be stern and hard and aggressive, but 439 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:35,080 Speaker 2: you can sense a little tone in them like okay, 440 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:37,240 Speaker 2: I need to say this, I'm going to say this, 441 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:41,399 Speaker 2: but like you know, for me, it was definitely Rudy. 442 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 3: Same same time. 443 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, yep, well especially so after I try I almost 444 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 1: be wed from feeling like I was gonna faint on 445 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:54,360 Speaker 1: the beach and I didn't. I had my mirror room 446 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:58,560 Speaker 1: when we when I got back after the hypothermia and stuff, 447 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 1: and and they didn't show that. But what they also 448 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 1: didn't show is Rudy was the one who put the 449 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:11,280 Speaker 1: hood over my head and walked me up to mirror 450 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:14,960 Speaker 1: room and then back down. And once he walked me 451 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 1: back down and took off my hood, he said, I'm 452 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:21,199 Speaker 1: really proud of you. I thought you were going to 453 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:25,120 Speaker 1: leave today and I'm so proud of you for choosing 454 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:28,119 Speaker 1: not to and pushing past that and you know, go 455 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:31,639 Speaker 1: get some sleep and sleep on, you know, sleep on 456 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:34,960 Speaker 1: all of this. And I felt I felt that I 457 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:38,520 Speaker 1: felt the support. And that's kind of one of the 458 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:40,879 Speaker 1: reasons that I wanted to get to a mirror room interview, 459 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:43,679 Speaker 1: because I feel like they connect with you more on 460 00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:48,080 Speaker 1: like a human level than just the you know, being staff, 461 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 1: you know, being our ds and and so I I 462 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:58,600 Speaker 1: really loved the mirror room parts for me. I'm sure 463 00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:02,399 Speaker 1: you had a mirror room too. Did you feel was 464 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:05,359 Speaker 1: Rudy part of that or when did you feel that 465 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 1: support from Rudy? 466 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:07,040 Speaker 5: Yeah? 467 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:11,960 Speaker 2: I felt it, you know in all of the missions 468 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:15,439 Speaker 2: that we did, when there was any interaction with with me, 469 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:18,720 Speaker 2: he was just I don't I don't mind anybody being 470 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:20,760 Speaker 2: stern but fair. 471 00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:22,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, right, I am. 472 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:26,479 Speaker 2: I am so on that kick right where like you 473 00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:29,600 Speaker 2: can yell, you can curse, you can scream, but be fair. 474 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:33,480 Speaker 2: And there were moments where I just felt like some 475 00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:36,960 Speaker 2: of the staff weren't fair. And I get it again, right, 476 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:40,360 Speaker 2: like in combat and training it doesn't need to be 477 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:45,120 Speaker 2: so sweet and I'm not looking for that, but I 478 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:49,719 Speaker 2: felt like c he walked me to the mirror room, 479 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:53,360 Speaker 2: and I could sense it's not necessarily what he said, 480 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:55,280 Speaker 2: it's like how we did it, like when I had it, 481 00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:58,680 Speaker 2: because you know, I'm much taller than him. Yeah, when 482 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:01,720 Speaker 2: he had to put the thing over my head, just 483 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 2: the way that he said it like all right, like 484 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:08,000 Speaker 2: you know I can't reach up there, like ah, that's funny, 485 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:11,040 Speaker 2: you know, and even walking me when we're all very 486 00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:16,160 Speaker 2: stiff because we're blindfolded, and the comfort like how he 487 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:19,120 Speaker 2: held I don't know how he held my arm or something. 488 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:22,000 Speaker 2: You could just sense there was a little like like 489 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:25,240 Speaker 2: this is my man conference to you that you can 490 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:25,680 Speaker 2: do this. 491 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:27,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, totally. 492 00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:33,880 Speaker 2: In the mirror room, I thought Rudy was it was fair. Yeah, 493 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:36,840 Speaker 2: And I knew going into it that there were certain 494 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:38,440 Speaker 2: things that were going to be asked and that they 495 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:40,840 Speaker 2: were going to say things to trigger us, like we 496 00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:43,840 Speaker 2: are all prepared for that type of stuff. But I 497 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:49,480 Speaker 2: think how they put it all together was was fairly solid. 498 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:55,000 Speaker 2: In my case, they allowed me to share what I 499 00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:58,200 Speaker 2: wanted to share. And I think all of us, I 500 00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:01,440 Speaker 2: mean you cut you, all of us, I would imagine 501 00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:04,920 Speaker 2: want the mirror room because it us gives us a 502 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 2: space to share to like, this is who I am, 503 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:11,760 Speaker 2: this is why I'm here, this is what I struggle with. 504 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:15,840 Speaker 2: And so I can understand some of us that didn't 505 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 2: get that opportunity, who might be a little you know, 506 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:22,720 Speaker 2: not as happy about the situation. But I took my 507 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:26,080 Speaker 2: time in the mirror room away as okay, Like I 508 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:29,120 Speaker 2: got to share what I wanted to share and it 509 00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:29,680 Speaker 2: was worth it. 510 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:42,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, let's get into that a little bit. You know, 511 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:47,480 Speaker 1: the controversy with the performance enhancing drugs, and you talked 512 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:50,640 Speaker 1: about that in the mirror room, and I don't know 513 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 1: if you talked about it on the show or in interviews, but. 514 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:56,200 Speaker 3: You talked about how well. 515 00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:58,680 Speaker 1: Just now you said you don't want to let people down. 516 00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:01,920 Speaker 1: You know you mentioned that letting you know your family down. 517 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:06,200 Speaker 1: How how did you how did you deal or how 518 00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:10,040 Speaker 1: have you dealt with that feeling of guilt that you 519 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:12,320 Speaker 1: let people down in that moment. 520 00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:19,240 Speaker 2: That has been trust So that has been a constant 521 00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:26,040 Speaker 2: visit the therapy. So you know, it's this idea that 522 00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:35,120 Speaker 2: I I know that so many people, family and friends 523 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:43,000 Speaker 2: and the light they look to athletes, they look to 524 00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:51,280 Speaker 2: celebrities to get them away from their their worlds sometimes 525 00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:55,240 Speaker 2: that are not so pleasant, and I don't take that lightly. 526 00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:59,560 Speaker 2: And so the idea that so many people in that 527 00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:05,080 Speaker 2: sea of my life looked to me as a source 528 00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:11,560 Speaker 2: of inspiration, right, and the media embraced that, right, and 529 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:16,200 Speaker 2: they put me on this pedestal, which at the time 530 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:19,880 Speaker 2: you're grateful for, right, like you're grateful for the cover 531 00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:25,120 Speaker 2: of magazines and for all of the fame, fortune, all that. 532 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:30,280 Speaker 2: And so for me, for someone that doesn't take that 533 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:36,280 Speaker 2: lightly to have in ess, it's been the cause of 534 00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:41,200 Speaker 2: letting people, so many people down, right, Like, it has 535 00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:44,440 Speaker 2: been hard, and it's it's been quite the journey Trista 536 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:49,560 Speaker 2: to finally say, you know what, right like, I'm wiping 537 00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:55,520 Speaker 2: my hands clean of it, meaning I have been through it. 538 00:32:56,160 --> 00:33:00,600 Speaker 2: I admit it and apologize that poor choices were made 539 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:03,120 Speaker 2: in my twenties. And I say that not to use 540 00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:05,680 Speaker 2: it as an excuse, but to give it all context, 541 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:09,680 Speaker 2: right when people are so busy like pointing and saying, hey, 542 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:13,200 Speaker 2: you shouldn't have done that. And in moments, I'll say, okay, 543 00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:18,600 Speaker 2: let's backtrack to you in your late teens and early twenties, 544 00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:23,480 Speaker 2: and let's say that you were given a lot of money, right, 545 00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:26,640 Speaker 2: and you were surrounded with people who would what I 546 00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:29,600 Speaker 2: call trista yes people. They were going to say yes 547 00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:31,720 Speaker 2: to anything you asked for. They were going to tell 548 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:33,560 Speaker 2: you how great you are. They were going to patch 549 00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:36,240 Speaker 2: you on the back. And you have surrounded yourself with 550 00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:39,600 Speaker 2: this group of people, and you are encountered with the 551 00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:44,280 Speaker 2: with the moments in time I call it less than 552 00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:46,960 Speaker 2: thirty seconds where you have to make a quick decision 553 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:51,640 Speaker 2: about what potentially your future will look like. And you 554 00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:54,800 Speaker 2: just make the wrong choice and you told a lie, right, 555 00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:59,800 Speaker 2: you know, I you know, if people can easily point 556 00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:03,680 Speaker 2: the finger and all that, and do I wish things 557 00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:05,600 Speaker 2: could be different? Yes? And no, trist I'm going to 558 00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:08,880 Speaker 2: tell you because I've learned so much about myself, I 559 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:14,520 Speaker 2: think that my story now is so much more I 560 00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:16,800 Speaker 2: don't know, I don't want to say compelling. But it 561 00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:21,640 Speaker 2: running fast from here to there, I'm sure inspired a 562 00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:26,640 Speaker 2: lot of people, right, Yeah, But the idea that somebody 563 00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:29,480 Speaker 2: who could run that fast and have that much fame 564 00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:34,000 Speaker 2: and fortune and popularity could make a poor choice, lose 565 00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:37,399 Speaker 2: it all and then decide, you know what, I Am 566 00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:40,520 Speaker 2: not going to disappear right that my story can help you, 567 00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:43,680 Speaker 2: that my story can still inspire. And so I'm at 568 00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:45,680 Speaker 2: this point in my life Trista where I think that 569 00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:48,440 Speaker 2: what I've been through, what I share, what I do 570 00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:52,160 Speaker 2: now helps people more than how fast I can run 571 00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:53,840 Speaker 2: and how many metals I could run. And that's my 572 00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:57,480 Speaker 2: personal opinion, but that's what I say, you know, like 573 00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:00,799 Speaker 2: I wish I could go back there. You know, I 574 00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:04,920 Speaker 2: also think that my God, our God doesn't give us 575 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:07,600 Speaker 2: more than we can handle. And so that actually makes 576 00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:10,320 Speaker 2: me feel good because wow, I've been through some stuff 577 00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:12,440 Speaker 2: and he still knows that this was going to be 578 00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:14,600 Speaker 2: the path, and he still loves me, and he's still 579 00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:18,120 Speaker 2: right like embraces me. So I'm here for it all. 580 00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:20,319 Speaker 2: It's not easy. It's not easy being me. It's not 581 00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:23,360 Speaker 2: easy having to share the story because people want to 582 00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:25,279 Speaker 2: know a story, they want to give it context. And 583 00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:28,600 Speaker 2: as much as I would like to just like be 584 00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:32,040 Speaker 2: forward moving and forward talking trists and not have to 585 00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:35,160 Speaker 2: talk about the hardest moment in my life, I also 586 00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:38,480 Speaker 2: know I need to give it context. But at almost 587 00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:42,040 Speaker 2: the age of fifty, I'm not willing to dedicate an 588 00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:47,200 Speaker 2: entire interview to it. Right I now, enter like these 589 00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:50,920 Speaker 2: settings or when we talk or whatever. I entering with 590 00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:54,320 Speaker 2: my own agenda when I was in my twenties and thirties, 591 00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:57,480 Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, what do you want to talk about? Like, 592 00:35:57,520 --> 00:35:59,520 Speaker 2: whatever you want to talk about, I will talk about 593 00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:02,640 Speaker 2: it anymore, right, And I make sure that my team 594 00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:05,439 Speaker 2: and people know I get it. I will touch on it. 595 00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:08,719 Speaker 2: Most people know the story. For me, it's like just 596 00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:10,839 Speaker 2: what I tell my clients and the people like. It's 597 00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:14,560 Speaker 2: got to be forward thinking. We cannot stay stuck in 598 00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:20,279 Speaker 2: our crap, right, and even me constantly talking about it 599 00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:24,760 Speaker 2: and dedicating entire hour plus interviews to it, that's getting 600 00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:27,040 Speaker 2: stuck in my crap. And I'm not there anymore. 601 00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:30,520 Speaker 1: So totally, you want to get out of that crap. 602 00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:32,360 Speaker 1: I already lived it. I don't need to. 603 00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:33,480 Speaker 3: But I will. 604 00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:35,839 Speaker 1: Say I think it's I think it's beautiful that you're 605 00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:39,880 Speaker 1: using it to inspire people more because really, truly, you 606 00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:42,400 Speaker 1: can't see the light without the darkness, like you know, 607 00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:47,680 Speaker 1: so I feel like it gives you perspective of just 608 00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:51,040 Speaker 1: and gratitude I would assume for the life that you 609 00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:55,759 Speaker 1: have now. And and one more question on it, and 610 00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:58,600 Speaker 1: then we will not talk about it anymore. But your 611 00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:02,480 Speaker 1: kids were tiny when when it happened. Have you talked 612 00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:05,279 Speaker 1: to them about it and do you share kind of 613 00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:08,000 Speaker 1: the same message with them that you would share with 614 00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:10,439 Speaker 1: all of us. How has that been? 615 00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:15,400 Speaker 2: I have three beautiful kids now they're older now, of course, 616 00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:17,359 Speaker 2: two of them out of the house. One of them 617 00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:21,440 Speaker 2: I have a teenage daughter who's fifteen going on thirty five. 618 00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:23,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, I have one of those. 619 00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:32,040 Speaker 2: And I made the decision to of course share everything 620 00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:34,960 Speaker 2: with them, but share it in a way that they 621 00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:39,520 Speaker 2: could understand it through doing rights and good and creating 622 00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:44,120 Speaker 2: lessons in it in certain moments of their childhood, and 623 00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:47,040 Speaker 2: of course making sure they know the whole story so 624 00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:50,200 Speaker 2: that when they're of age and they're now, and of 625 00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:53,799 Speaker 2: course we have social media now and they could potentially 626 00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:57,319 Speaker 2: be asked or they see stuff, they know everything. They 627 00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:00,279 Speaker 2: know the real story and how to handle it. I've 628 00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:03,640 Speaker 2: like the big part of it for me, Trista, and 629 00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:08,600 Speaker 2: why I stepped away for almost a decade and decided 630 00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:13,040 Speaker 2: to just be their mom, create a community around my 631 00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:16,600 Speaker 2: family that was loving and supportive, and figure out, like 632 00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:18,480 Speaker 2: what I wanted to do. I have, you know, this 633 00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:22,040 Speaker 2: passion for fitness and helping people and motivating and all 634 00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:25,080 Speaker 2: that type of stuff and and mindset coaching, like how 635 00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:27,040 Speaker 2: am I going to develop that? And I need to 636 00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:30,239 Speaker 2: do all of that away from the spotlight. So it's 637 00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:33,840 Speaker 2: a choice that I made for like a decade until 638 00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:36,040 Speaker 2: they were at a certain age where I was comfortable 639 00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:41,680 Speaker 2: slowly putting my foot back into it all in that hey, like, 640 00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:47,200 Speaker 2: people need to hear that once you make the poor choice, Trista, like, 641 00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:49,919 Speaker 2: you don't disappear like you could get through it. We 642 00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:53,680 Speaker 2: all go through tough times, and there needs to be 643 00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:57,040 Speaker 2: somebody out there that potentially is a living example of that. 644 00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:02,360 Speaker 2: Like people our age remember everything. They remember my successes, 645 00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:05,520 Speaker 2: They remember the cover of Vogue, you know, they remember 646 00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:08,000 Speaker 2: winning the gold medals and all of that and the 647 00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:11,840 Speaker 2: golden girl of that age. And those people also remember 648 00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:16,320 Speaker 2: if you lived through that time when everything crashed right 649 00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:19,480 Speaker 2: and I and I. People need to see that once 650 00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:23,200 Speaker 2: those things happen, potentially not at the level that I 651 00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:27,480 Speaker 2: crashed right or all of that, but in their own world, 652 00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:30,200 Speaker 2: that it doesn't have to be done. Your life doesn't 653 00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:33,520 Speaker 2: have to be done. You can rebrand, you can rename yourself, 654 00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:36,160 Speaker 2: you can create. What I think I have done is 655 00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:39,200 Speaker 2: create your own narrative and not be told this is 656 00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:43,640 Speaker 2: your narrative, this is gonna be your story, right and period. Nope, 657 00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:47,359 Speaker 2: all right, dot dot dot, my story continues. And if 658 00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:50,120 Speaker 2: you're a fan, great, if you're not, it's okay too. 659 00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:53,560 Speaker 3: Totally, totally, Oh my gosh. 660 00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:58,239 Speaker 1: I love that perspective, seriously, I and I have to 661 00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:02,680 Speaker 1: tell you when and I saw you being on the show, 662 00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:09,360 Speaker 1: I didn't even once think about the controversy. 663 00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:11,400 Speaker 3: All I thought about. 664 00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:15,880 Speaker 1: Was how you were such a huge inspiration to so 665 00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:19,319 Speaker 1: many people at the Olympics. So all I saw when 666 00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:23,000 Speaker 1: I saw you was positive, Like I literally didn't. 667 00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:23,719 Speaker 3: See that negative. 668 00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:27,800 Speaker 1: And maybe it's because you've made this like conscious choice 669 00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:30,480 Speaker 1: to rewrite your narrative, so good job. 670 00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:33,839 Speaker 2: I also think Trisa, it's it's also how I live, 671 00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:36,799 Speaker 2: right even on the even on the show there were 672 00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:40,920 Speaker 2: the moments all that they they put on the final product, 673 00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:45,239 Speaker 2: but even you know, like how I was when when 674 00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:48,080 Speaker 2: they didn't show things like I'm checking on that's just 675 00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:50,840 Speaker 2: my natural, My net's in my nature, like I'm mothering. 676 00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:55,160 Speaker 2: I don't want to see people struggle, especially if they 677 00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:57,600 Speaker 2: don't have to, and if I have any tools to 678 00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:01,560 Speaker 2: help somebody and I I'm gonna lead athletes, so I 679 00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:08,360 Speaker 2: have naturally learned the tools on how to deal with struggle, 680 00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:11,719 Speaker 2: even physical struggle, because that's what we went through a lot. 681 00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:16,680 Speaker 2: Like I think the athletes on the show had a 682 00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:23,000 Speaker 2: slight disadvantage in that regard, right, besides just being physically fit, 683 00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:27,360 Speaker 2: we have a certain amount of discipline when it comes 684 00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:32,759 Speaker 2: to physical struggle. And so what you heard from me 685 00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:35,640 Speaker 2: or even you know, the prayer or what I would 686 00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:38,879 Speaker 2: whisper to Denise or you or whomever, like we can 687 00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:42,000 Speaker 2: do this, right, Like, we can do this. They want 688 00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:45,799 Speaker 2: to see us struggle and suffer, but ultimately we can 689 00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:49,160 Speaker 2: do this. We can face the fears. And I hope 690 00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:52,880 Speaker 2: it's also I mean I probably should have said in 691 00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:54,719 Speaker 2: the beginning, but it's one of the reasons why I 692 00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:56,879 Speaker 2: was like, yeah, I'll do it, not just because it's 693 00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:59,880 Speaker 2: another challenge, trist so because it's an opportunity for people 694 00:41:59,880 --> 00:42:05,480 Speaker 2: to see who I have evolved into as I've gotten older, 695 00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:10,600 Speaker 2: knowing how what I've been through and my incredible, incredible, 696 00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:13,760 Speaker 2: vast life at the age of forty nine going on fifty, 697 00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:18,719 Speaker 2: that this is the person that this enormous life has created, 698 00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:23,399 Speaker 2: and it's not solitary creation. It could happen in your life. 699 00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:26,000 Speaker 2: It could happen in whomever might be going through a 700 00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:31,160 Speaker 2: tough time, like like your beautiful self can evolve, and 701 00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:32,480 Speaker 2: I wanted people to see that. 702 00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:34,799 Speaker 3: Yeah I think they did. 703 00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:39,560 Speaker 1: Okay, So I don't know if you last question. I 704 00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:41,400 Speaker 1: don't know if you have any regrets at all, Like 705 00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:44,200 Speaker 1: the way that I left. When I left, I was 706 00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:46,239 Speaker 1: just at peace. I don't know if you remember that. 707 00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:48,799 Speaker 1: When I left, I was just like this, it's my time. 708 00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:51,280 Speaker 1: I don't want to be a burden anymore. I've gotten 709 00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:52,040 Speaker 1: so much out of it. 710 00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:54,240 Speaker 2: And you were like, here take all my stuff. 711 00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:54,759 Speaker 3: Yeah. 712 00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:57,680 Speaker 1: I literally was like, okay, Cam, you need your you 713 00:42:57,719 --> 00:42:58,799 Speaker 1: need to watch you can't find yours. 714 00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:01,120 Speaker 3: Here you go. Who wants a pillow? Who wants my Yeah? 715 00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:08,120 Speaker 1: I was giving everything away. So because whenever someone left, we. 716 00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:09,919 Speaker 3: Were like, okay, what can they what can we take 717 00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:12,520 Speaker 3: from from like to survive? 718 00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:14,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, totally. 719 00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:18,600 Speaker 1: So I have a little regret, and that is just 720 00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:21,080 Speaker 1: that I left. I kind of have fomo now, like 721 00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:22,919 Speaker 1: I kind of wanted to do more of the stuff, more, 722 00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:27,239 Speaker 1: more stuff. And obviously you left for a very different reason. 723 00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:33,160 Speaker 1: You were medically withdrawn. Do you have any regrets about leaving? 724 00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:38,000 Speaker 1: And like what in terms of your exit from the 725 00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:40,480 Speaker 1: show do you ever think about that? 726 00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:41,680 Speaker 3: Do you ever regret do. 727 00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:44,600 Speaker 1: You wish you would have been like like holding you know, let. 728 00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:45,680 Speaker 3: Me tell you your ribs? 729 00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:49,080 Speaker 2: There there are regrets in that well one and it's 730 00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:52,840 Speaker 2: kind of funny, but not in my preparation for the show. 731 00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:55,240 Speaker 2: You know, there was a lot of you know, cardio 732 00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:58,520 Speaker 2: endurance work, and there was one thing that I now 733 00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:01,399 Speaker 2: I wish I would have done, and that is more kickboxing. 734 00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:05,000 Speaker 2: I have no background in boxing, right, and when I 735 00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:08,440 Speaker 2: had an idea that the that that challenge was going 736 00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:11,239 Speaker 2: to be a part of it. And when I I 737 00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:16,880 Speaker 2: immediately thought, you know what, the facial protection was not 738 00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:20,600 Speaker 2: a lot and I'm thinking, like I don't want to 739 00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:25,600 Speaker 2: really ruin this, like I love this this, so I'm 740 00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:28,800 Speaker 2: immediately venturous to say I'm going to protect my face. 741 00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:30,400 Speaker 3: Okay, got it? 742 00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:33,720 Speaker 2: And when you protect your face, what do you leave exposed? 743 00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:37,239 Speaker 2: Your ribs? So with a little bit of background in 744 00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:40,960 Speaker 2: like kickboxing, and I know that Kayla like she loves kickboxing, 745 00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:43,200 Speaker 2: like you know, she does a lot of fitness, that 746 00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:45,040 Speaker 2: was one thing I would have done to prepare. But 747 00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:47,560 Speaker 2: I also I guess my regret is that I didn't 748 00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:52,520 Speaker 2: get far enough where the challenges that we face were 749 00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:55,960 Speaker 2: very physical, right, and that I never got to a 750 00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:59,440 Speaker 2: point where I could do a challenge that required like 751 00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:08,200 Speaker 2: you know, mindset stuff and thinking and teamwork type things, 752 00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:12,799 Speaker 2: and so and I and and after I left, like 753 00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:15,360 Speaker 2: I don't know if it was purposeful, but because there 754 00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:17,360 Speaker 2: were so many people leaving at that point, they're like, 755 00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:20,719 Speaker 2: we need to make a show. I found that the 756 00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:24,160 Speaker 2: challenges after that, not to say that they were easy, 757 00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:27,120 Speaker 2: like I'm definitely not saying that, but there was a 758 00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:31,879 Speaker 2: different tone to them in terms of the physical part 759 00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:34,880 Speaker 2: of it. And I don't know if it was already 760 00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:37,879 Speaker 2: programmed that this was going to be after this, after this, 761 00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:41,400 Speaker 2: The regret is that I never got a chance to 762 00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:44,440 Speaker 2: to do that part of it. Like I am a 763 00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:49,960 Speaker 2: leader like that that would have I would have embraced 764 00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:52,600 Speaker 2: those type of challenges. And so my regret is that 765 00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:54,600 Speaker 2: I never got that far to be able to do that. 766 00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:56,200 Speaker 3: Totally get that. 767 00:45:56,760 --> 00:46:00,160 Speaker 1: So, Marian, love you and thank you so much, which 768 00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:03,279 Speaker 1: for joining me on the almost famous OG podcast Where 769 00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:05,160 Speaker 1: can Everybody find You Anywhere? 770 00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:09,960 Speaker 2: Everywhere. Instagram is at the Mary Jones and if there 771 00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:13,080 Speaker 2: is a TikTok, I'm somewhere there. And if right, I'm 772 00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:15,000 Speaker 2: so happy that I got a chance to chat with 773 00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:18,719 Speaker 2: you again. I think people think that like you do 774 00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:22,400 Speaker 2: these type of things, and everybody goes there there different ways, 775 00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:25,359 Speaker 2: but it has not like people don't know we have 776 00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:28,600 Speaker 2: an incredible group chat. That is the funniest thing, like 777 00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:30,759 Speaker 2: that could be a podcast in and of itself, or 778 00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:35,879 Speaker 2: something like the commentary on this podcast. But the fact 779 00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:39,480 Speaker 2: that I knew that I have made lifelong sisters and 780 00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:42,080 Speaker 2: brothers and all of this is the best part of 781 00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:42,399 Speaker 2: it all. 782 00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:51,600 Speaker 4: In the club, in the club, Okay, I love you too, 783 00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:53,239 Speaker 4: have a great day. 784 00:46:53,160 --> 00:47:01,680 Speaker 2: You too. Bye bye bye