Speaker 1: When you look at the Soros family and the impact
Speaker 1: they've had on our elections, getting liberal prosecutors elected to power,
Speaker 1: and the increase in crime we've seen as a result.
Speaker 1: Or the World Economic Forum and Claus Schwab and its
Speaker 1: desire for us to own nothing and to be happy.
Speaker 1: Or Bill Gates buying up America's farmland, Jeff Bezos, Mark Zuckerberg,
Speaker 1: all of these individuals who have an outsized role in
Speaker 1: shaping our society and shaping the world.
Speaker 2: That we live in. But how much control do they have.
Speaker 1: We're going to talk to Shamus Brunner, who is the
Speaker 1: author of a new book called Control O Garchs, exposing
Speaker 1: the billionaire class, their secret deals, and the globalist plot
Speaker 1: to dominate your life. Just how much control these people have,
Speaker 1: and even some things that you wouldn't even think about
Speaker 1: in the ways that they're trying to control us. Shamus
Speaker 1: Bruner is also the director of research at the Government
Speaker 1: Accountability Institute. He's worked with Peter Schweizer over the years
Speaker 1: to bring a lot of investigations to light to call
Speaker 1: out corruption in both government and the private sector as well.
Speaker 1: So stay tuned for this interview about his new book,
Speaker 1: Control of Arcs. Well, Seamus, I met you at a
Speaker 1: Heritage event a few months ago and you were telling
Speaker 1: me about your book, and I was like, I've got
Speaker 1: to get you on and look at us following through.
Speaker 3: So awesome, It's so awesome. I'm excited. This is a
Speaker 3: podcast I love to listen to.
Speaker 1: Well that means a lot. I really appreciate it, and
Speaker 1: I'm so glad to have you on. This book just
Speaker 1: seems so interesting. You and Peter Schweizer. You guys have
Speaker 1: exposed a ton of corruption over the years through the
Speaker 1: Government Accountability Institute as well as the best selling books
Speaker 1: and the investigative work that you guys have been doing.
Speaker 1: I focus on the billionaire class.
Speaker 3: Well, you know us, we follow the money. That's kind
Speaker 3: of our motto. We followed it to the Clinton's, to
Speaker 3: the Bidens. I did a book on FBI corruption following
Speaker 3: James co Me and Robert Muller's money, and now we
Speaker 3: decided to follow it all the way to the top,
Speaker 3: to the globalist elites. And what we found is really
Speaker 3: shocking stuff. I mean, for the first time ever, we
Speaker 3: crunched the numbers and found, you know how each of
Speaker 3: the characters on the cover of the book, and about
Speaker 3: twenty others added tens of billions of dollars to their
Speaker 3: personal net worth over the course of the pandemic. And
Speaker 3: that may not surprise the savvy listeners of your show,
Speaker 3: But what really blew us away is how they sort
Speaker 3: of leveraged the pandemic as a quote opportunity not only
Speaker 3: to get rich, but to seize control of key industries
Speaker 3: that dominate our lives. And we're not against making money,
Speaker 3: of course, we're all capitalists. You know, there's plenty of
Speaker 3: good billionaires out there, but these guys really want to
Speaker 3: use their money and leverage the power of government to
Speaker 3: change your behavior and control you. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean, look, I'd love to be a billionaire. I'm
Speaker 1: not going to lie. But you know that big set.
Speaker 1: You know, you look at a lot of the damage
Speaker 1: these guys have done, and you focus on folks like
Speaker 1: Bill Gates, Mark Zuckerberg, Jeff Bezos, the Soros, Klass Schwab,
Speaker 1: you know a lot of these individuals.
Speaker 2: We talk a lot about if.
Speaker 1: You had to pick one, who's the worst offender, and why.
Speaker 3: It's so hard when you've got George Soros, Bill Gates,
Speaker 3: and Klaus Schwab. I usually choose those three out of
Speaker 3: the five. Mark Zuckerberg and Jeff Bezos do have a
Speaker 3: bit of a more libertarian bent, although that is eroded
Speaker 3: over the years. George Sorows is just, you know, the
Speaker 3: villain that everybody knows and has heard much about his
Speaker 3: son Alexander. So we weren't sure that George Soros was
Speaker 3: going to make it through publication, and there was questions
Speaker 3: of whether we should put him on the cover. He's
Speaker 3: ninety three years old and not looking so good. But
Speaker 3: his son Alexander, So we tracked down all five of
Speaker 3: his children and found that actually each is more radical
Speaker 3: than he is. And Alexander Soros, who's taken over the
Speaker 3: sort of dark money empire, this twenty five billion dollar
Speaker 3: mount and of philanthropic cash, is much more radical than
Speaker 3: his father. So I think he's certainly one to look
Speaker 3: out for. Bill Gates, of course. I mean, he was
Speaker 3: always this cutthroat monopolist software salesman, and then once the
Speaker 3: DOJ started looking into Microsoft and the famous anti trust
Speaker 3: suit was opened up, that's when he became a philanthropist.
Speaker 3: And now all of a sudden he's a darling of
Speaker 3: the left. I mean the left didn't used to love
Speaker 3: Bill Gates at all, but the things that he's pouring
Speaker 3: his money into is really, really, you know, some creepy stuff.
Speaker 3: And then klaud Schwab, I would say, I mean, he
Speaker 3: doesn't have the power of Bill Gates in America, but
Speaker 3: globally he certainly does. And what he represents is, you
Speaker 3: know this, He's this frontman for this group of people
Speaker 3: I call the control of Arcs and the things coming
Speaker 3: out of Davos are truly terrifying. So that's probably how
Speaker 3: I'd rank them. Cloud's at the top, only because he
Speaker 3: represents the rest of them. Bill Gates right up there
Speaker 3: with him and Soros and his offspring right below Gates.
Speaker 1: You talked about Bill Gates investing in some very creepy stuff.
Speaker 1: We know he's also buying up America's farmland. You know,
Speaker 1: first of all, get into the creepy stuff you're talking about,
Speaker 1: and then also why is he buying up America's farmland.
Speaker 3: There's a tactic that Bill Gates used, or Microsoft used
Speaker 3: that is what the Anti Trust Justice Department prosecutors looked into,
Speaker 3: and so it actually bears upon both the farmland but
Speaker 3: all of the other stuff he has used this tactic
Speaker 3: called embrace, extend, extinguish, where he enters the sector, you know,
Speaker 3: acts like he's not making too many waves. He extends
Speaker 3: his reach within that sector, and then he extinguishes the competition.
Speaker 3: And so I mean you just you saw this in
Speaker 3: the pandemic. I mean he enters this glo the global
Speaker 3: health industry. I mean he's a software guy. What does
Speaker 3: he know about health? He's certainly not a doctor, not
Speaker 3: a scientist. He expands his reach. This happens through the
Speaker 3: two thousands. I mean he's funded doctor Fauci programs, doctor
Speaker 3: Burke's programs. He really bought his way in by sending
Speaker 3: money to NIH studies and stuff like that. I mean,
Speaker 3: three billion dollars is how much we found he had
Speaker 3: sent towards Fauci and Burks before the pandemic and their priorities.
Speaker 3: And then he's the one who's authoring the pandemic policies,
Speaker 3: things like lockdowns and masks and things that we know
Speaker 3: now and many of us knew then didn't work. He's
Speaker 3: got a very close relationship with communist China. He's helped
Speaker 3: the Chinese censor their own citizens using Microsoft software and
Speaker 3: skype et cetera and outed dissident journalists. So he's got
Speaker 3: this real proclivity towards the Chinese. And it's not just commercial.
Speaker 3: I think hekind of craves the power that communism provides.
Speaker 3: Of course, we get into the the GMO mosquitos that
Speaker 3: he's released all over the country. I mean, it started
Speaker 3: in Florida, in California. Wants to release them everywhere. Not
Speaker 3: a scientist, but not sure genetically modified mosquitos is a
Speaker 3: good idea. He spent over ninety million dollars doing that.
Speaker 2: What's the goal with that?
Speaker 3: The goal is to eradicate mosquitoes, because mosquitos are actually
Speaker 3: the most deadly animal.
Speaker 2: What's the real goal? Is there something more nefarious than that?
Speaker 3: It's more I don't you know, I don't say that.
Speaker 3: I'm not saying that there's a more nefarious goal other
Speaker 3: than eradicating mosquitoes. However, you know a lot of things
Speaker 3: could go wrong when you start messing with you know,
Speaker 3: the food chain, and next thing you know, you know,
Speaker 3: he has cascading ripple effects. So the fact that he's
Speaker 3: able to do this without any and that's kind of
Speaker 3: the theme of the book is did anybody get to
Speaker 3: vote on this no. And Bill Gates is unelected for
Speaker 3: he is unaccountable. And that's that's a big problem, is
Speaker 3: these unelected billionaires and bureaucrats authoring our policies without any
Speaker 3: sort of recourse for we the people. Additionally, you know,
Speaker 3: he's got he's the one who helped get the Inflation
Speaker 3: Reduction Act passed. There's a piece in Bloomberg that you know,
Speaker 3: leaked communications probably from Senator Mansion staff saying that Bill
Speaker 3: Gate calls up the Mansion and kind of threatens him.
Speaker 3: And he's he's not a registered lobbyist, he doesn't have
Speaker 3: to register as a lobbyist, but he's able to kind
Speaker 3: of exert this undemocratic pressure over lawmakers to get things
Speaker 3: like the Inflation Reduction Act pass Now, why would he
Speaker 3: do that. There's four hundred plus billion dollars carved out
Speaker 3: in the Inflation Reduction Act to go to green energy
Speaker 3: priorities and you know so called green energy priorities. He's
Speaker 3: got this nuclear power company called Tarror Power that's gotten
Speaker 3: at least one hundred million dollars in tax payasists. That's
Speaker 3: another thing we talk about is, you know, why do
Speaker 3: we need to be giving welfare to oligarchs.
Speaker 1: And then what about the farmland. What do you think
Speaker 1: the objective is there?
Speaker 3: So using this embrace and in like the the extinguished phase.
Speaker 3: You know, I mentioned it with with global health and
Speaker 3: how he kind of bought his way into that industry
Speaker 3: and then I'll expanded his region extinguished. The competition. The
Speaker 3: competition is generics. In the case of healthcare, I mean
Speaker 3: generic medications. You know they Why would he put like,
Speaker 3: you know, why would he diss or pooh pooh things
Speaker 3: like zinc or vitamin C in favor of things like
Speaker 3: regeneron or you know, the other patented pharmaceutical products. And
Speaker 3: that's that's what you saw with Microsoft, and that's what
Speaker 3: you'll see in the food industry is the the the
Speaker 3: industries that Bill Gates wants to control. He actually owns
Speaker 3: and has large investments in these patented technologies. And so
Speaker 3: with food and with agriculture, he owns large chunks of
Speaker 3: the fake meat, you know, things like beyond meat, impossible foods.
Speaker 3: He's also owns a large chunk of these new synthetic
Speaker 3: patented fertilizers. And so once he's secured investments in the
Speaker 3: patented technology and he's expanded his reach far enough within
Speaker 3: an industry. That's when he comes in and exerts the
Speaker 3: pressure over the politicians to do things like ban certain
Speaker 3: types of fertilizers which would be his competition, and ban
Speaker 3: you know, types of meat. So I meane Alexandria Acasio
Speaker 3: Cortes when she starts scriping about cal flatulence and you
Speaker 3: know how that's going to end the earth, she doesn't
Speaker 3: get these ideas and she didn't just make up this idea,
Speaker 3: and a lot of politicians talk about, you know how
Speaker 3: cattle are terrible. I mean, Ireland is actually a little
Speaker 3: further ahead than the United States and their efforts to
Speaker 3: ban cattle. They're going to be sending anywhere from forty
Speaker 3: thousand to two hundred thousd and cows to slaughter on
Speaker 3: the altar of climate change that just so happens to
Speaker 3: benefit people like Bill Gates's investments in these alternative proteins.
Speaker 2: Do you think Peter would be a little bit upset
Speaker 2: about that?
Speaker 1: Seriously, although they'll probably be silent because it's you know,
Speaker 1: leftists doing it. You know, the Soros family, clearly, I
Speaker 1: don't know if I mean any other family has done
Speaker 1: more damage to America in like modern history. They've done
Speaker 1: this through elections, you know, even more localized elections, like
Speaker 1: liberal prosecutors. The amount of crime that they've increased. What
Speaker 1: motivates them to want to destroy so much? You know,
Speaker 1: what did you learn about them? What should people know?
Speaker 2: Why are they so invested in destroying America?
Speaker 3: Sure so, George Soros. I mean many of your listeners
Speaker 3: have probably heard that his network is called the Open
Speaker 3: Society Network, and that term open society it comes from
Speaker 3: his mentor, Carl Popper. And the idea behind an open
Speaker 3: society is that there are no borders. And so that's
Speaker 3: you know, you see the erosion of our border. That's
Speaker 3: a huge source. Priority is to eliminate the border. There's
Speaker 3: not strong you know, strong countries, the United States being
Speaker 3: the strongest. They don't want a strong United States. They
Speaker 3: want this multipolar world of kind of like everybody, you know,
Speaker 3: all globalists. And so I totally agree with you that
Speaker 3: he has done probably the most damage, certainly being the
Speaker 3: oldest on the cover there and he's been at it
Speaker 3: for a long time. And the problem is is that
Speaker 3: his his offspring are just as radical, if not more
Speaker 3: radical than he is. They're not just I mean they've
Speaker 3: already placed their thumbs on the scales for twenty twenty four.
Speaker 3: You've got all of the you know, the prosecutors who
Speaker 3: are trumping up these charges and like against a political opponent,
Speaker 3: but then also the efforts to remove Donald Trump from
Speaker 3: the ballot across the county. This is being pushed by
Speaker 3: an organization called Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington.
Speaker 3: CREW that's a Soros funded organization. And he always names
Speaker 3: I mean, he's really good at naming his uh dark
Speaker 3: money network organizations like the Democracy Initiative or Open Society Initiative,
Speaker 3: and they sound really good. The only problem is is
Speaker 3: Soros is unelected and so we have no way of
Speaker 3: pushing back against his influence. And it's you know, that's
Speaker 3: not very democratic at all. And something we get into
Speaker 3: too is, you know, he's funding the prosecutors, which that's
Speaker 3: just uh, you know, these are these these are tiny
Speaker 3: races where you know, it doesn't cost a lot of
Speaker 3: money to buy the race. Local sheriffs are next. I mean,
Speaker 3: he's now funding local sheriffs.
Speaker 1: It's pretty terrifying. Let's take a quick commercial break. More
Speaker 1: on control of arcs. On the other side. Why do
Speaker 1: you think the left and brain globalism so much? You know, what,
Speaker 1: do these billionaires want globalism? Why does the left want globalism?
Speaker 1: What's the aim of it?
Speaker 3: Well, that's a great question, and it's talked about a
Speaker 3: lot in the book. How there are these Well, so
Speaker 3: chapter one gets into this organization called the Club of Rome,
Speaker 3: and it's really the precursor to Davos in the World
Speaker 3: Economic Forum. They're very tight with the United Nations and
Speaker 3: with you know, reading through their thousands of pages of manifestos,
Speaker 3: you kind of come to the realization that there are
Speaker 3: these problems and crises, and in every crisis there's a
Speaker 3: huge opportunity for them. Of course, there are these problems
Speaker 3: in crises that are just too big for anyone country
Speaker 3: to solve, and so that's why they these kind of
Speaker 3: plutocrats who are again not elected, get together in places
Speaker 3: like Davos, but also like Aspen and very very fancy places,
Speaker 3: and they get together and brainstorm how they can use
Speaker 3: tag payer resources to solve crises, things like climate change,
Speaker 3: things like global pandemics. I mean, back in the sixties
Speaker 3: when a lot of these organizations were getting started, the
Speaker 3: big problem was overpopulation and They certainly still to this day,
Speaker 3: think that there's too many peasants on planet Earth, you know,
Speaker 3: using up their resources in air. So Bill Gates is
Speaker 3: a big overpopulation type guy, and the way they want
Speaker 3: to bring it down is largely through lowering the birth rate.
Speaker 3: They've they've done a pretty good job. I feel like
Speaker 3: they should take take a victory lap because birth rates
Speaker 3: are at sixty year lows.
Speaker 2: Now are these crises?
Speaker 1: Are these manufactured crises? When you talk about climate change
Speaker 1: and COVID which ended up being as deadly as the flu.
Speaker 3: Well, when you read through like this organization is a
Speaker 3: very it's not well known, the Club of Rome, but
Speaker 3: I would encourage people to go read some of the
Speaker 3: Club of Rome's reports. They're still you know, cranking out
Speaker 3: reports to this day. Their first, their first big production
Speaker 3: was called the Limits to Growth, and that was like,
Speaker 3: how the Earth is overpopulated. We really need to you know,
Speaker 3: a lot of these people think a billion people now.
Speaker 3: They never tell you how they want to get to
Speaker 3: a billion people. They think that's like the ideal planetary size.
Speaker 3: They don't, you know, they don't tell you how they
Speaker 3: want to get to it. I don't allege that there's
Speaker 3: like some large genocide going on or anything like that.
Speaker 3: But the thing that they openly talk about is just
Speaker 3: lowering birth rates. That was the first crisis, is this
Speaker 3: crisis of overpopulation. I think they realized because you can
Speaker 3: kind of see over time, you know, report after report
Speaker 3: each year that comes out. What grew out of the
Speaker 3: overpopulation was global cooling. Well, the Earth is going to freeze.
Speaker 3: I mean this is now into the seventies, and these
Speaker 3: are the people who are authoring things that where you
Speaker 3: eventually arrive at climate change. The thing about climate change
Speaker 3: that's so perfect. I mean they got to global warming.
Speaker 3: There was holes in the ozone layer and you know
Speaker 3: every year the or you know every year they're like ten,
Speaker 3: in ten years, the Earth is going to end if
Speaker 3: we don't do something about it. And then you get
Speaker 3: to that ten years, like well wait a second's like no, no, no,
Speaker 3: it's ten it's ten more years ahead. I mean, like
Speaker 3: Greta Thunberg said twenty twenty three would be the year
Speaker 3: that the Earth would end back in twenty sixteen.
Speaker 2: She had to delete that.
Speaker 3: Tee had to delete the tweet. So they all and
Speaker 3: they kind of they kind of just they paper over
Speaker 3: their past predictions, but there's like fifty to sixty years
Speaker 3: of failed predictions. And this is why the pandemic was
Speaker 3: such a aga, in Klaus Schwab's words, great opportunity. I mean,
Speaker 3: they said, there's there's some great clips I wish I'll
Speaker 3: send them to you of people at the World Economic
Speaker 3: Forum saying climate changes doesn't really scare people enough. So
Speaker 3: that's why the pandemic has been such a great opportunity
Speaker 3: because it's actually real. It's not you know, this hypothetical
Speaker 3: ten year away event. And so that and so the
Speaker 3: great reset is you know, talked about extensively in the book.
Speaker 3: I mean, Klaus Schwab got up in July of twenty
Speaker 3: twenty and said, this pandemic is a great opportunity for
Speaker 3: a reset, a great reset of capitalism, of rebuilding ours,
Speaker 3: you know, we build back better in a greener way.
Speaker 3: And everybody, you know, if you saw that clip, you
Speaker 3: were kind of wondering, in the middle of a pandemic,
Speaker 3: when you're lockdown and wearing a mask, what the heck
Speaker 3: does a virus have to do with climate change? And
Speaker 3: we're we're starting to see that they as they rebuild
Speaker 3: and build back better and these infrastructure bills, they're pouring
Speaker 3: hundreds of billions, actually over a trillion dollars is going
Speaker 3: into like saving the planet, which is such an ambitious goal,
Speaker 3: but it's it's really a heist of taxpayer money. And
Speaker 3: what is it building. It's building these climate friendly you know,
Speaker 3: programs and initiatives. Then really actually aren't all that climate friendly.
Speaker 3: I mean you look at the fake meats, which is
Speaker 3: all done to save the planet, you know, climate change.
Speaker 3: The fake meats use more you know, growing meats in
Speaker 3: a lab uses more carbon than cattle emit method, so
Speaker 3: it's that's not greener than the tried and true method
Speaker 3: of just growing beef. Same thing with the electric vehicles,
Speaker 3: I mean, the batteries and just like the number of
Speaker 3: elements and materials that go into the production of electric
Speaker 3: vehicle is ultimately more carbon emitting than a gas powered
Speaker 3: vehicle would emit in its lifetime. And so then if
Speaker 3: it's not about saving the planet, what is it about?
Speaker 3: And you kind of can see, I mean, just you know,
Speaker 3: have your listeners. Imagine a scenario. You wake up in
Speaker 3: the middle of the night, it's in the middle of
Speaker 3: the summer, it's a it's a heat wave and you're
Speaker 3: drenched in sweat. So you go to your thermostat and
Speaker 3: you try to turn the temperature down and you can't.
Speaker 3: You've been locked out. You don't have control over the
Speaker 3: temperature in your home. That sounds maybe a conspiracy, like
Speaker 3: a conspiracy conspiracy theory. It's it's not. As the residence
Speaker 3: in Denver, Colorado, in California, and in Texas, they've all
Speaker 3: experienced this area where they signed up for the new
Speaker 3: smart thermostat, they didn't realize when they checked the box.
Speaker 3: I agree that they were agreeing to have their smart
Speaker 3: thermostat remotely controlled based on you know, the energy consumption
Speaker 3: of their city. This is kind of what the smart
Speaker 3: cities are all about. This is this technology that Gates
Speaker 3: is funding, invested in, built, Jeff Bezos with Amazon, and
Speaker 3: you know a bunch of other characters in the book.
Speaker 1: Well, and it also pushes us, you know, for instance,
Speaker 1: with electric vehicles, I think it's just so that people
Speaker 1: stop owning private car ownership, you know, to to reduce
Speaker 1: that because you know, there there are questions about if
Speaker 1: the electrical grid could even support this vast expansion to
Speaker 1: electric vehicles, if there's even enough raw materials, and so
Speaker 1: I think the end goal is so that we don't
Speaker 1: have private you know, car ownership, right, And that's part
Speaker 1: of what you know, Klaus Schwab and the World Economic
Speaker 1: Forum has been saying, is that, you know, they want
Speaker 1: us to own nothing and be happy, be you know,
Speaker 1: talk about some examples.
Speaker 2: About what they're encouraging to push us in that direction.
Speaker 3: Yeah, certainly it sounds sort of like a threat. Actually
Speaker 3: when you when you think a lot about it, like I.
Speaker 2: Have, Yeah, like that's not going to make me happy, right,
Speaker 2: I could.
Speaker 3: Tell you you will own nothing.
Speaker 1: Luck, Yeah, with this biding economy, you're really already pushing
Speaker 1: me in the you know, but like that will not
Speaker 1: make me I promise you have.
Speaker 3: Well, the way to think about it is they want
Speaker 3: to put a paywall around everything in your life that
Speaker 3: you enjoy, and they want to make it a subscription
Speaker 3: based everything you rent everything. They act like it's going
Speaker 3: to be this utopia, But I mean, do you like
Speaker 3: having to subscribe to a number? You know, like I
Speaker 3: mean BMW's and Mercedes Now, like in order to have
Speaker 3: your heated seats you need and to have maybe this
Speaker 3: the safety sensors on the car, the features are in
Speaker 3: the vehicle. You've paid for the vehicle, but in order
Speaker 3: to use those features, you've got to pay ten bucks
Speaker 3: a month. If you want the remote start feature on
Speaker 3: your keyfob, that's an extra five bucks a month. And
Speaker 3: this is something that Bill Gates actually really pioneered with.
Speaker 2: It's like flying Spirit airlines.
Speaker 3: It really no, it really isn't.
Speaker 1: It's something you want to bring a carry on and
Speaker 1: that's another hundred You're like, what the yeah?
Speaker 3: And you see it in every industry that's like highly consolidated.
Speaker 3: When the consumers don't have options and choices, then the
Speaker 3: few market players, especially in the airline industry. But Bill
Speaker 3: Gates and these other guys, they want to consolidate every industry.
Speaker 3: I mean there's a great Goldman Sachs report that talks
Speaker 3: about how a consolidated industry meaning fewer and fewer market
Speaker 3: players in that industry, is the ideal. I mean, it's
Speaker 3: a utopia for corporatist types because there's no competition. That's
Speaker 3: the thing that unites all these guys. They hate competition,
Speaker 3: Bill Gates especially, that's why he got into trouble with
Speaker 3: anti trust with Microsoft. They want to put the competitors
Speaker 3: out of business. This is why the lockdowns were so good.
Speaker 3: It crushed local and small business competition, and it really
Speaker 3: boosted the big bog big retail Amazon type players. And
Speaker 3: so when there's no competition, yeah, they can get away
Speaker 3: with charging you extra for a carry on. It's the same.
Speaker 3: I mean, the cellular provider industry is a highly consolidated industry.
Speaker 3: There's just a few options your home internet. There's only
Speaker 3: like two options maybe in your area to get fast internet,
Speaker 3: and that's why they can really stick it to you.
Speaker 3: And that's really what these guys are the Davost crowd
Speaker 3: really enjoy. So that's kind of where things are headed,
Speaker 3: is very few options. And when there's few options, you know,
Speaker 3: I actually lined it up to the University of Michigan
Speaker 3: does this consumer satisfaction survey every year, and you find
Speaker 3: that the industries with few players are the most hated. Industries,
Speaker 3: Like you will not be happy. That's why you don't
Speaker 3: like flying on airlines. That's why you're frustrated with comcasts.
Speaker 3: And the industries where there's abundant choices. I mean, interestingly,
Speaker 3: the craft beer industry, for example, or the food industry
Speaker 3: are the favored industry of consumers. There are so many
Speaker 3: options that you can I mean, and it drives down
Speaker 3: prices and so you get the best value with the
Speaker 3: most choices. And these guys don't like that.
Speaker 1: Well, I can tell you I just recently got the
Speaker 1: iPhone fifteen like an idiot, and now I get awful service.
Speaker 1: And I called the AT and T about it, and
Speaker 1: I've talked to them multiple times and one of the
Speaker 1: people they're like, oh, just upgrade your plan. I'm like, well,
Speaker 1: it worked just fine with the thirteen, So like, what
Speaker 1: sense does that make? You know? But it's probably just
Speaker 1: another reason to try to drive up prices and stick
Speaker 1: it to us when you know they're already doing enough
Speaker 1: job of that in this economy.
Speaker 2: Quick break more with Seamus Brunner. You know, I wanted
Speaker 2: to ask you because you luded.
Speaker 1: You talked about the lockdowns and this massive transfer of
Speaker 1: wealth that happened during it. You know, you had players
Speaker 1: like Bill Gates in the World Economic Forum really encouraging
Speaker 1: you know, lockdowns kind of talk about how COVID enabled
Speaker 1: some of these you know globalists, these billionaires, these control
Speaker 1: of arcs, you know, talk about the role COVID plate
Speaker 1: and all of this.
Speaker 3: Yeah, certainly. I mean we so like the the net
Speaker 3: worth of all of these guys skyrocketed. I mean mostly
Speaker 3: a lot of the big tech guys. I mean everybody.
Speaker 3: You know, when you're locked at home, you got to
Speaker 3: shop on Amazon, Facebook, which is now topping about four
Speaker 3: billion users worldwide, but not all of those people are
Speaker 3: on Facebook all the time. During during the lockdowns, they
Speaker 3: had two billion people worldwide every single day checking their
Speaker 3: news feeds. That's that's a lot of money. I mean,
Speaker 3: Jeff Mark Zuckerberg almost almost doubled up in networth. He
Speaker 3: was around sixty billion. Now he hovers around twenty billion.
Speaker 3: Over the course of the pandemic. That, you know, that's
Speaker 3: not that there's some conspiracy you know about you know
Speaker 3: that they plant I don't say that they planned the pandemic,
Speaker 3: but I do say that they that Bill Gates and
Speaker 3: others planned for a pandemic that go through all of
Speaker 3: the pandemic planning exercise. Is there have been many prior
Speaker 3: to you know, there was one just three weeks or
Speaker 3: whatever before the virus started spreading in China in October
Speaker 3: twenty nineteen. The World Economic Forum and the Bill will
Speaker 3: ind the Gates Foundation, we're planning for a specifically at
Speaker 3: coronavirus pandemic, so it was on their minds, and during
Speaker 3: these exercises they plan out like, well, here's how we
Speaker 3: respond to. What you kind of notice is that the
Speaker 3: it wasn't really about health, it was about control. I
Speaker 3: mean there's a big information control element to the pandemic,
Speaker 3: and that's what you know why, you know there needed
Speaker 3: to be this unified figure, unified voice in doctor Anthony Fauci.
Speaker 3: Now i'd play put yeah, yeah, And it was it
Speaker 3: was a really interesting I mean, if you really track
Speaker 3: Bill Gates's you know, he appears on the scene in
Speaker 3: February of twenty twenty. I mean, nobody, most people don't
Speaker 3: even know that there is a pandemic during that at
Speaker 3: that point. I mean, the World Health Organization doesn't announce
Speaker 3: that it is a global pandemic until mid March. But
Speaker 3: Bill Gates he puts out an op ed and a
Speaker 3: Bill Gates byline, and it's pushed by Washington Post. Jeff
Speaker 3: Bezos is Washington Post, and it's everywhere before you know it,
Speaker 3: and he says, the only way we can get back
Speaker 3: to normal is if everybody takes the vaccine. And so
Speaker 3: you kind of wonder, like, what vaccine there is. There's
Speaker 3: not a vaccine. The vaccine didn't come till later, and
Speaker 3: so they kind of had pre pre planning for a pandemic.
Speaker 3: I don't, you know, I don't say that it's intentionally
Speaker 3: released or anything like that. But in addition to controlling
Speaker 3: the information, yeah, controlling the pharmaceuticals. And this is why
Speaker 3: competing COVID protocols were just not allowed. I mean, you
Speaker 3: were censored if you suggested any other thing other than
Speaker 3: a vaccine. Now we've seen that the vaccines don't exactly work.
Speaker 3: You know. The promise was that it was one hundred
Speaker 3: percent safe and effective. You know, Joe Biden says, if
Speaker 3: you get the vaccine, you're not going to get COVID.
Speaker 3: That was obviously not true. It slowly went down to well,
Speaker 3: if you know, you might have less symptoms, but you know,
Speaker 3: you ask anybody, you know. I mean, the symptoms are
Speaker 3: roughly the same amongst the vaccinated and unvaccinated. So I mean,
Speaker 3: what was it all about. I mean money, For one thing,
Speaker 3: it was a huge huge boost in money to the
Speaker 3: companies like Pfizer and Maderna. Everybody knows that I mean
Speaker 3: over you know, a trillion dollars. I believe Moderna was
Speaker 3: at one point estimated to be the first trillion dollar
Speaker 3: pharmaceutical company, which is just an unfathomable sum. But Bill
Speaker 3: Gates helped develop all these technologies. He was developing m
Speaker 3: RNA therapies, and ultimately the m RNA is not about COVID.
Speaker 3: You know, they talk about what mRNA like it's it's
Speaker 3: this medical breakthrough, which it is certainly, but Elon Musk
Speaker 3: actually kind of talks about what what mRNA can do,
Speaker 3: and it you know, they talk about with COVID, it
Speaker 3: turns your body into like its own little pharmaceutical factory
Speaker 3: where it can produce these spike proteins and it's just magic.
Speaker 3: But what they really see m RNA is being able
Speaker 3: to do is like life extension and anti aging. I
Speaker 3: mean Elon Musket, he's got a great comment about this.
Speaker 3: He's like, with m RNA, you could turn someone into
Speaker 3: a butterfly. I mean, that's not obviously true. He's being
Speaker 3: a little hyperbolic, but he does say there's some great
Speaker 3: anti aging elements to it, and so you see that
Speaker 3: these guys kind of have like this god complex on
Speaker 3: steroids where whether it's the meats or the pharmaceuticals where
Speaker 3: they you know, they think that they can tinker with genetics.
Speaker 3: They you know, the food is like a really i
Speaker 3: mean kind of bizarre stuff with the it's not just
Speaker 3: eat the bugs, but some of the lab grown meats,
Speaker 3: and you know it's like cows are just fine. You know,
Speaker 3: the you know, Mother Nature or God created everything just fine.
Speaker 3: You don't need to be making new meats, you don't
Speaker 3: need to be extending your life, and ultimately you get
Speaker 3: to you know, the bookend, you know, gets towards the
Speaker 3: end is you know, the transhumanist ambitions of these guys
Speaker 3: and uploading brains to clouds and you know, plugging in
Speaker 3: neuralink to your brain stem. It all sounds like science fiction,
Speaker 3: it's not. I mean, Biden's FDA just approved neuralink for
Speaker 3: human trials this past spring. In the book we Do,
Speaker 3: you know, at the time of writing, there's over ten
Speaker 3: thousand people who have already hooked their brains up to
Speaker 3: microchips and it's kind of terrifying stuff. You know, you think,
Speaker 3: I'm not going to be I'm not going to do
Speaker 3: that to myself, and that's probably true. But with the
Speaker 3: AI revolution, I mean Sam Altman and open ai and
Speaker 3: chat GPT's like always in the news these days. You know,
Speaker 3: there's a very close relationship with Microsoft. Microsoft is the
Speaker 3: biggest investor in open ai. And according to Sam Altman,
Speaker 3: i mean, jobs are going away and estimates range from
Speaker 3: you know, forty percent of the workforce on the lower
Speaker 3: end to maybe eighty percent as an extreme. That was
Speaker 3: you know that those are according to Google's AI people.
Speaker 3: And so if you lose your job and you're kind
Speaker 3: of just struggling to get by as many people are
Speaker 3: struggling to get by right now, just you know, there's
Speaker 3: no telling what you might do when forced to. We
Speaker 3: saw it and that's what we saw during the pandemic.
Speaker 3: I mean that was a kind of a good test
Speaker 3: rune of like what are people willing to do in
Speaker 3: an extreme scenario.
Speaker 1: It's interesting that MR and A, you know, connecting it
Speaker 1: to keeping people, you know young when it's killing people,
Speaker 1: you know, when you look at what it's doing to
Speaker 1: people's hearts and uh, you know the rest of it.
Speaker 1: But regarding this push for you know, artificial intelligence, and
Speaker 1: you know, this continued walk we have towards you know,
Speaker 1: additional technology in the country. You know, my concern for
Speaker 1: it is that we're just going to have more and
Speaker 1: more broken people because you know, one with job loss.
Speaker 2: Obviously, jobs give people a purpose.
Speaker 1: But even just looking at COVID, I mean, the more
Speaker 1: impersonal and disconnected we become as humans, the more unhappy
Speaker 1: we become. You know, you look at all these overdoses
Speaker 1: during COVID, the isolation and the more online, the more
Speaker 1: technologically driven we are, the further driven apart we are
Speaker 1: as humans, and the less human connectivity we're going to have.
Speaker 1: And so I just I worry that that is going
Speaker 1: to drive us further towards division, you know, anger, hopelessness,
Speaker 1: and just a more unhappy society.
Speaker 3: I completely agree with you. I think you're totally right.
Speaker 3: I mean, you see this with I mean, you know,
Speaker 3: over forty I think forty three state attorneys general across
Speaker 3: the country file suit against meta Facebook and Instagram maker
Speaker 3: for it's addictive business model. I mean, and there's you know,
Speaker 3: going back to the founding of Facebook, they used addiction
Speaker 3: as a business model. But the attorney's general goes step further.
Speaker 3: It's not just that Bill Gates, I mean Mark Zuckerberg
Speaker 3: is profiting from an addictive business model, but it's the
Speaker 3: effects that that business model has on people, especially young people,
Speaker 3: young young women, you know, feelings of depression and suicide
Speaker 3: and so yeah, you like during the pandemic, you're locked
Speaker 3: down and you're just like scrolling Facebook all day. That's
Speaker 3: you saw tons of depress you know, depression surged, and
Speaker 3: so it's a it's a big problem. I mean, this guy,
Speaker 3: the WEF visionary. You've all know a Harari And if
Speaker 3: your listeners haven't heard of Harari, you know, I recommend
Speaker 3: you go just cruise YouTube and watch some videos of
Speaker 3: this guy. This is a guy who he kind of
Speaker 3: speaks with authority. I mean, Barack Obama is a big fan.
Speaker 3: Mark Zuckerberg is a big fan. Bill Gates is a
Speaker 3: big fan of Hurrari. Klaus Schwab cites him in his
Speaker 3: books and he talks about like what what does the
Speaker 3: future look like? And he says, you know, there's going
Speaker 3: to be a lot of useless people AI and you know,
Speaker 3: the robot in the Fourth Industrial Revolution, as Klaus Schwab
Speaker 3: calls it, is going to lead to a lot of
Speaker 3: useless people. And what are those people going to do.
Speaker 3: They're going to be on drugs, playing video games. It's
Speaker 3: really dystopian. But also you kind of see, you know,
Speaker 3: you see it right now in a lot of ways
Speaker 3: with the social media addiction and stuff, and drug addiction
Speaker 3: on the increase, and fentanyl deaths are always up. So
Speaker 3: we're kind of you know, we've got time, and I
Speaker 3: do have some hope that we'll fight back against it,
Speaker 3: but it is looking pretty grim right now, you know.
Speaker 1: Before we go, let's also talk about the central bank
Speaker 1: digital currency. You had talked before about even just with
Speaker 1: you know, like thermostats and sort of some of this
Speaker 1: technological shifts of them being able to control you know,
Speaker 1: heating and air conditioning. I mean, the central bank digital
Speaker 1: currency would mean that they control our financial transactions as well.
Speaker 1: And you know, obviously we're probably not on the popular
Speaker 1: side of things, so I you know, like good luck,
Speaker 1: you know, like good luck Shamus and Lisa trying to
Speaker 1: go buy the things we want to buy right right.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's it's absolute total control that according to
Speaker 3: the head, a central bank digital currency is absolute total
Speaker 3: control over finances in a way that we've never seen
Speaker 3: people hear here, like a digital currency it's like, well,
Speaker 3: I use my credit card and I tap to pay
Speaker 3: at the register, Like, are not using digital currency? No, no, no,
Speaker 3: this is different. It's it's a removal of the cash
Speaker 3: based system. And so the head of the Bureau of
Speaker 3: International Settlements the BIS, that's like the central banker's central bank,
Speaker 3: it's like the biggest, most powerful bank in the world
Speaker 3: that's based in Switzerland. The head of that bank has
Speaker 3: this video where he talks about CBDC and he says,
Speaker 3: you know, the problem with cash is you don't know
Speaker 3: who's spending one hundred dollars. You know, the one hundred dollars
Speaker 3: just kind of drifts through the financial system and you
Speaker 3: don't know who spent it or what they spent it on.
Speaker 3: And so even if you you know, even if you're
Speaker 3: using tap to pay and your you know, your card
Speaker 3: all the time, and if you never use cash, just
Speaker 3: having that element of cash and that uncertainty floating through
Speaker 3: the financial system as our current system does, that confounds
Speaker 3: their you know, AI ambitions where they can really like
Speaker 3: analyze every single transaction. And so with a set bank
Speaker 3: digital currency, this guy Augustin Karsten's who's the head of
Speaker 3: the BIS, he says that's much better because it gives
Speaker 3: us absolute total control. And what that control he's talking
Speaker 3: about is how they will be able to completely d
Speaker 3: bank Like they can deplatform you with the flick of
Speaker 3: a switch on social media. Uh, they will be able
Speaker 3: to de bank you. And they could depend de bank
Speaker 3: you to the person. They could debank your entire family,
Speaker 3: your community, your business, uh, your entire town, I mean
Speaker 3: an entire country, you know, if they wanted to. If
Speaker 3: everybody's on the Global Central Bank digital currency, it's like
Speaker 3: a flick of a switch, money gone. And so that's
Speaker 3: a big problem. I mean, you know, a lot of
Speaker 3: people listening may have been may feel like their shadow band,
Speaker 3: or may have been actually shadow band, probably for telling
Speaker 3: the truth about something. And so when you bring in
Speaker 3: the element of your finances and the type of control
Speaker 3: that a CBDC would allow, that's that's really a huge problem.
Speaker 3: That's like game over in my view. And just just
Speaker 3: today the IMF UH called for governments around the world
Speaker 3: to replace cash with c CBDC. This. You know, someone
Speaker 3: sent me this link like did you see this? I
Speaker 3: was like no, But now the IMF is pushing for it.
Speaker 3: The Atlantic Council reported about two weeks ago that the
Speaker 3: quote momentum behind cbdc's remains strong heading into twenty twenty four.
Speaker 3: The World Economic Forum says the same. So there's this
Speaker 3: push happening in the background our federal reserve, and it's
Speaker 3: all of the central banks around the world, but our
Speaker 3: Federal Reserve is is you know, working on it right now.
Speaker 1: Well, Seamus Bruner, thank you for making it so I
Speaker 1: can't sleep tonight.
Speaker 3: Well I could, I could let me. I'll give you
Speaker 3: like a thirty seconds.
Speaker 1: Agay, I guess I have Well agree, Okay, get us,
Speaker 1: get us, hopeus, give us home.
Speaker 3: It's a little yeah. No, people are waking up. I
Speaker 3: mean it's critical that this information. It's critical to share
Speaker 3: it with each other, you know, with your friends and
Speaker 3: family and neighbors. You need the facts when you go
Speaker 3: into you know, Thanksgiving and holiday dinners. You need to
Speaker 3: be able to talk about it convincingly. But also the
Speaker 3: thing I see just and this isn't really a fact
Speaker 3: based thing, but I feel it is. You mentioned it earlier.
Speaker 3: I mean, people I think, like are craving authenticity, whether
Speaker 3: you know it's whether it's the food you see, the
Speaker 3: fake meats are sort of flopping with consumers. That's why
Speaker 3: they need to ban cows because it didn't take off
Speaker 3: on its own. You see it with like when AI
Speaker 3: videos get posted. You see this really cool AI video.
Speaker 3: I guess it looks cool, but and then you think
Speaker 3: to yourself, well that's actually kind of creepy, whether it's
Speaker 3: a deep fake type thing or whatever. And you go
Speaker 3: through the comments. It's just comment after comments saying this
Speaker 3: is creepy, this is weird, And ultimately I think, you know,
Speaker 3: go spend some time outside and you know, you'll realize
Speaker 3: it's a beautiful place.
Speaker 2: I appreciate that. All right, there you go some hope,
Speaker 2: some hope.
Speaker 1: Shamas Router. Control of Arcs is the name of the book.
Speaker 1: Everyone't go get it. You can tell how well researched
Speaker 1: it is important information. Seamus, thanks so much for joining us.
Speaker 1: We appreciate it.
Speaker 3: Thank you, Lisa.
Speaker 1: I was Seamus Brunner, author of Controllo GARCS really interesting,
Speaker 1: deeply disturbing stuff. Glad he's doing the research to bring
Speaker 1: it to light. And for joining the show. I want
Speaker 1: to thank you guys at home for listening every Monday
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Speaker 1: want to thank John Cassio and my producer for putting
Speaker 1: the show together.
Speaker 2: Until next time,