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Speaker 1: Control of Arcs. Well, Seamus, I met you at a

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Speaker 3: the craft beer industry, for example, or the food industry

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Speaker 3: are the favored industry of consumers. There are so many

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Speaker 3: options that you can I mean, and it drives down

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Speaker 3: prices and so you get the best value with the

432
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Speaker 3: most choices. And these guys don't like that.

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Speaker 1: Well, I can tell you I just recently got the

434
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Speaker 1: iPhone fifteen like an idiot, and now I get awful service.

435
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Speaker 1: And I called the AT and T about it, and

436
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Speaker 1: I've talked to them multiple times and one of the

437
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Speaker 1: people they're like, oh, just upgrade your plan. I'm like, well,

438
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Speaker 1: it worked just fine with the thirteen, So like, what

439
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Speaker 1: sense does that make? You know? But it's probably just

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Speaker 1: another reason to try to drive up prices and stick

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Speaker 1: it to us when you know they're already doing enough

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Speaker 1: job of that in this economy.

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Speaker 2: Quick break more with Seamus Brunner. You know, I wanted

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Speaker 2: to ask you because you luded.

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Speaker 1: You talked about the lockdowns and this massive transfer of

446
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Speaker 1: wealth that happened during it. You know, you had players

447
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Speaker 1: like Bill Gates in the World Economic Forum really encouraging

448
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Speaker 1: you know, lockdowns kind of talk about how COVID enabled

449
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Speaker 1: some of these you know globalists, these billionaires, these control

450
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Speaker 1: of arcs, you know, talk about the role COVID plate

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Speaker 1: and all of this.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, certainly. I mean we so like the the net

453
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Speaker 3: worth of all of these guys skyrocketed. I mean mostly

454
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Speaker 3: a lot of the big tech guys. I mean everybody.

455
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Speaker 3: You know, when you're locked at home, you got to

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Speaker 3: shop on Amazon, Facebook, which is now topping about four

457
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Speaker 3: billion users worldwide, but not all of those people are

458
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Speaker 3: on Facebook all the time. During during the lockdowns, they

459
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Speaker 3: had two billion people worldwide every single day checking their

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Speaker 3: news feeds. That's that's a lot of money. I mean,

461
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Speaker 3: Jeff Mark Zuckerberg almost almost doubled up in networth. He

462
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Speaker 3: was around sixty billion. Now he hovers around twenty billion.

463
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Speaker 3: Over the course of the pandemic. That, you know, that's

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Speaker 3: not that there's some conspiracy you know about you know

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Speaker 3: that they plant I don't say that they planned the pandemic,

466
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Speaker 3: but I do say that they that Bill Gates and

467
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Speaker 3: others planned for a pandemic that go through all of

468
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Speaker 3: the pandemic planning exercise. Is there have been many prior

469
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Speaker 3: to you know, there was one just three weeks or

470
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Speaker 3: whatever before the virus started spreading in China in October

471
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Speaker 3: twenty nineteen. The World Economic Forum and the Bill will

472
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Speaker 3: ind the Gates Foundation, we're planning for a specifically at

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Speaker 3: coronavirus pandemic, so it was on their minds, and during

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Speaker 3: these exercises they plan out like, well, here's how we

475
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Speaker 3: respond to. What you kind of notice is that the

476
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Speaker 3: it wasn't really about health, it was about control. I

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Speaker 3: mean there's a big information control element to the pandemic,

478
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Speaker 3: and that's what you know why, you know there needed

479
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Speaker 3: to be this unified figure, unified voice in doctor Anthony Fauci.

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Speaker 3: Now i'd play put yeah, yeah, And it was it

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Speaker 3: was a really interesting I mean, if you really track

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Speaker 3: Bill Gates's you know, he appears on the scene in

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Speaker 3: February of twenty twenty. I mean, nobody, most people don't

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Speaker 3: even know that there is a pandemic during that at

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Speaker 3: that point. I mean, the World Health Organization doesn't announce

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Speaker 3: that it is a global pandemic until mid March. But

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Speaker 3: Bill Gates he puts out an op ed and a

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Speaker 3: Bill Gates byline, and it's pushed by Washington Post. Jeff

489
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Speaker 3: Bezos is Washington Post, and it's everywhere before you know it,

490
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Speaker 3: and he says, the only way we can get back

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Speaker 3: to normal is if everybody takes the vaccine. And so

492
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Speaker 3: you kind of wonder, like, what vaccine there is. There's

493
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Speaker 3: not a vaccine. The vaccine didn't come till later, and

494
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Speaker 3: so they kind of had pre pre planning for a pandemic.

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Speaker 3: I don't, you know, I don't say that it's intentionally

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Speaker 3: released or anything like that. But in addition to controlling

497
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Speaker 3: the information, yeah, controlling the pharmaceuticals. And this is why

498
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Speaker 3: competing COVID protocols were just not allowed. I mean, you

499
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Speaker 3: were censored if you suggested any other thing other than

500
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Speaker 3: a vaccine. Now we've seen that the vaccines don't exactly work.

501
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Speaker 3: You know. The promise was that it was one hundred

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Speaker 3: percent safe and effective. You know, Joe Biden says, if

503
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Speaker 3: you get the vaccine, you're not going to get COVID.

504
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Speaker 3: That was obviously not true. It slowly went down to well,

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Speaker 3: if you know, you might have less symptoms, but you know,

506
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Speaker 3: you ask anybody, you know. I mean, the symptoms are

507
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Speaker 3: roughly the same amongst the vaccinated and unvaccinated. So I mean,

508
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Speaker 3: what was it all about. I mean money, For one thing,

509
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Speaker 3: it was a huge huge boost in money to the

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Speaker 3: companies like Pfizer and Maderna. Everybody knows that I mean

511
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Speaker 3: over you know, a trillion dollars. I believe Moderna was

512
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Speaker 3: at one point estimated to be the first trillion dollar

513
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Speaker 3: pharmaceutical company, which is just an unfathomable sum. But Bill

514
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Speaker 3: Gates helped develop all these technologies. He was developing m

515
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Speaker 3: RNA therapies, and ultimately the m RNA is not about COVID.

516
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Speaker 3: You know, they talk about what mRNA like it's it's

517
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Speaker 3: this medical breakthrough, which it is certainly, but Elon Musk

518
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Speaker 3: actually kind of talks about what what mRNA can do,

519
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 3: and it you know, they talk about with COVID, it

520
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 3: turns your body into like its own little pharmaceutical factory

521
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Speaker 3: where it can produce these spike proteins and it's just magic.

522
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Speaker 3: But what they really see m RNA is being able

523
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Speaker 3: to do is like life extension and anti aging. I

524
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Speaker 3: mean Elon Musket, he's got a great comment about this.

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Speaker 3: He's like, with m RNA, you could turn someone into

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Speaker 3: a butterfly. I mean, that's not obviously true. He's being

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Speaker 3: a little hyperbolic, but he does say there's some great

528
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Speaker 3: anti aging elements to it, and so you see that

529
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Speaker 3: these guys kind of have like this god complex on

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Speaker 3: steroids where whether it's the meats or the pharmaceuticals where

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Speaker 3: they you know, they think that they can tinker with genetics.

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Speaker 3: They you know, the food is like a really i

533
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Speaker 3: mean kind of bizarre stuff with the it's not just

534
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Speaker 3: eat the bugs, but some of the lab grown meats,

535
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Speaker 3: and you know it's like cows are just fine. You know,

536
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Speaker 3: the you know, Mother Nature or God created everything just fine.

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Speaker 3: You don't need to be making new meats, you don't

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Speaker 3: need to be extending your life, and ultimately you get

539
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Speaker 3: to you know, the bookend, you know, gets towards the

540
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Speaker 3: end is you know, the transhumanist ambitions of these guys

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Speaker 3: and uploading brains to clouds and you know, plugging in

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Speaker 3: neuralink to your brain stem. It all sounds like science fiction,

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Speaker 3: it's not. I mean, Biden's FDA just approved neuralink for

544
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Speaker 3: human trials this past spring. In the book we Do,

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Speaker 3: you know, at the time of writing, there's over ten

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Speaker 3: thousand people who have already hooked their brains up to

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Speaker 3: microchips and it's kind of terrifying stuff. You know, you think,

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Speaker 3: I'm not going to be I'm not going to do

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Speaker 3: that to myself, and that's probably true. But with the

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Speaker 3: AI revolution, I mean Sam Altman and open ai and

551
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Speaker 3: chat GPT's like always in the news these days. You know,

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Speaker 3: there's a very close relationship with Microsoft. Microsoft is the

553
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Speaker 3: biggest investor in open ai. And according to Sam Altman,

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Speaker 3: i mean, jobs are going away and estimates range from

555
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Speaker 3: you know, forty percent of the workforce on the lower

556
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Speaker 3: end to maybe eighty percent as an extreme. That was

557
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Speaker 3: you know that those are according to Google's AI people.

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Speaker 3: And so if you lose your job and you're kind

559
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Speaker 3: of just struggling to get by as many people are

560
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:05,800
Speaker 3: struggling to get by right now, just you know, there's

561
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Speaker 3: no telling what you might do when forced to. We

562
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Speaker 3: saw it and that's what we saw during the pandemic.

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Speaker 3: I mean that was a kind of a good test

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Speaker 3: rune of like what are people willing to do in

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Speaker 3: an extreme scenario.

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Speaker 1: It's interesting that MR and A, you know, connecting it

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Speaker 1: to keeping people, you know young when it's killing people,

568
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Speaker 1: you know, when you look at what it's doing to

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Speaker 1: people's hearts and uh, you know the rest of it.

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Speaker 1: But regarding this push for you know, artificial intelligence, and

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Speaker 1: you know, this continued walk we have towards you know,

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Speaker 1: additional technology in the country. You know, my concern for

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Speaker 1: it is that we're just going to have more and

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Speaker 1: more broken people because you know, one with job loss.

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Speaker 2: Obviously, jobs give people a purpose.

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Speaker 1: But even just looking at COVID, I mean, the more

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Speaker 1: impersonal and disconnected we become as humans, the more unhappy

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Speaker 1: we become. You know, you look at all these overdoses

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Speaker 1: during COVID, the isolation and the more online, the more

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Speaker 1: technologically driven we are, the further driven apart we are

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Speaker 1: as humans, and the less human connectivity we're going to have.

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Speaker 1: And so I just I worry that that is going

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Speaker 1: to drive us further towards division, you know, anger, hopelessness,

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Speaker 1: and just a more unhappy society.

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Speaker 3: I completely agree with you. I think you're totally right.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you see this with I mean, you know,

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Speaker 3: over forty I think forty three state attorneys general across

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Speaker 3: the country file suit against meta Facebook and Instagram maker

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Speaker 3: for it's addictive business model. I mean, and there's you know,

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Speaker 3: going back to the founding of Facebook, they used addiction

591
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Speaker 3: as a business model. But the attorney's general goes step further.

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Speaker 3: It's not just that Bill Gates, I mean Mark Zuckerberg

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Speaker 3: is profiting from an addictive business model, but it's the

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Speaker 3: effects that that business model has on people, especially young people,

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Speaker 3: young young women, you know, feelings of depression and suicide

596
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Speaker 3: and so yeah, you like during the pandemic, you're locked

597
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:05,240
Speaker 3: down and you're just like scrolling Facebook all day. That's

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Speaker 3: you saw tons of depress you know, depression surged, and

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Speaker 3: so it's a it's a big problem. I mean, this guy,

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Speaker 3: the WEF visionary. You've all know a Harari And if

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Speaker 3: your listeners haven't heard of Harari, you know, I recommend

602
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 3: you go just cruise YouTube and watch some videos of

603
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Speaker 3: this guy. This is a guy who he kind of

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Speaker 3: speaks with authority. I mean, Barack Obama is a big fan.

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Speaker 3: Mark Zuckerberg is a big fan. Bill Gates is a

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Speaker 3: big fan of Hurrari. Klaus Schwab cites him in his

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Speaker 3: books and he talks about like what what does the

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Speaker 3: future look like? And he says, you know, there's going

609
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Speaker 3: to be a lot of useless people AI and you know,

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Speaker 3: the robot in the Fourth Industrial Revolution, as Klaus Schwab

611
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Speaker 3: calls it, is going to lead to a lot of

612
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Speaker 3: useless people. And what are those people going to do.

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Speaker 3: They're going to be on drugs, playing video games. It's

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Speaker 3: really dystopian. But also you kind of see, you know,

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00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:02,360
Speaker 3: you see it right now in a lot of ways

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Speaker 3: with the social media addiction and stuff, and drug addiction

617
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:09,920
Speaker 3: on the increase, and fentanyl deaths are always up. So

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Speaker 3: we're kind of you know, we've got time, and I

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Speaker 3: do have some hope that we'll fight back against it,

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Speaker 3: but it is looking pretty grim right now, you know.

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Speaker 1: Before we go, let's also talk about the central bank

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Speaker 1: digital currency. You had talked before about even just with

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Speaker 1: you know, like thermostats and sort of some of this

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Speaker 1: technological shifts of them being able to control you know,

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Speaker 1: heating and air conditioning. I mean, the central bank digital

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Speaker 1: currency would mean that they control our financial transactions as well.

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Speaker 1: And you know, obviously we're probably not on the popular

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Speaker 1: side of things, so I you know, like good luck,

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Speaker 1: you know, like good luck Shamus and Lisa trying to

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Speaker 1: go buy the things we want to buy right right.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's it's absolute total control that according to

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Speaker 3: the head, a central bank digital currency is absolute total

633
00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:59,399
Speaker 3: control over finances in a way that we've never seen

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00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:01,400
Speaker 3: people hear here, like a digital currency it's like, well,

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Speaker 3: I use my credit card and I tap to pay

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00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 3: at the register, Like, are not using digital currency? No, no, no,

637
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 3: this is different. It's it's a removal of the cash

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Speaker 3: based system. And so the head of the Bureau of

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00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:17,799
Speaker 3: International Settlements the BIS, that's like the central banker's central bank,

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Speaker 3: it's like the biggest, most powerful bank in the world

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Speaker 3: that's based in Switzerland. The head of that bank has

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Speaker 3: this video where he talks about CBDC and he says,

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Speaker 3: you know, the problem with cash is you don't know

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Speaker 3: who's spending one hundred dollars. You know, the one hundred dollars

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Speaker 3: just kind of drifts through the financial system and you

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Speaker 3: don't know who spent it or what they spent it on.

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Speaker 3: And so even if you you know, even if you're

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Speaker 3: using tap to pay and your you know, your card

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Speaker 3: all the time, and if you never use cash, just

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Speaker 3: having that element of cash and that uncertainty floating through

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Speaker 3: the financial system as our current system does, that confounds

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Speaker 3: their you know, AI ambitions where they can really like

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Speaker 3: analyze every single transaction. And so with a set bank

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Speaker 3: digital currency, this guy Augustin Karsten's who's the head of

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Speaker 3: the BIS, he says that's much better because it gives

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Speaker 3: us absolute total control. And what that control he's talking

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Speaker 3: about is how they will be able to completely d

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Speaker 3: bank Like they can deplatform you with the flick of

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Speaker 3: a switch on social media. Uh, they will be able

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Speaker 3: to de bank you. And they could depend de bank

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Speaker 3: you to the person. They could debank your entire family,

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Speaker 3: your community, your business, uh, your entire town, I mean

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Speaker 3: an entire country, you know, if they wanted to. If

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Speaker 3: everybody's on the Global Central Bank digital currency, it's like

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Speaker 3: a flick of a switch, money gone. And so that's

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Speaker 3: a big problem. I mean, you know, a lot of

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Speaker 3: people listening may have been may feel like their shadow band,

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Speaker 3: or may have been actually shadow band, probably for telling

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Speaker 3: the truth about something. And so when you bring in

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Speaker 3: the element of your finances and the type of control

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Speaker 3: that a CBDC would allow, that's that's really a huge problem.

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Speaker 3: That's like game over in my view. And just just

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Speaker 3: today the IMF UH called for governments around the world

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Speaker 3: to replace cash with c CBDC. This. You know, someone

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Speaker 3: sent me this link like did you see this? I

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Speaker 3: was like no, But now the IMF is pushing for it.

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Speaker 3: The Atlantic Council reported about two weeks ago that the

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Speaker 3: quote momentum behind cbdc's remains strong heading into twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 3: The World Economic Forum says the same. So there's this

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Speaker 3: push happening in the background our federal reserve, and it's

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Speaker 3: all of the central banks around the world, but our

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Speaker 3: Federal Reserve is is you know, working on it right now.

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Speaker 1: Well, Seamus Bruner, thank you for making it so I

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Speaker 1: can't sleep tonight.

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Speaker 3: Well I could, I could let me. I'll give you

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Speaker 3: like a thirty seconds.

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Speaker 1: Agay, I guess I have Well agree, Okay, get us,

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Speaker 1: get us, hopeus, give us home.

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Speaker 3: It's a little yeah. No, people are waking up. I

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Speaker 3: mean it's critical that this information. It's critical to share

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Speaker 3: it with each other, you know, with your friends and

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Speaker 3: family and neighbors. You need the facts when you go

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Speaker 3: into you know, Thanksgiving and holiday dinners. You need to

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Speaker 3: be able to talk about it convincingly. But also the

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Speaker 3: thing I see just and this isn't really a fact

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Speaker 3: based thing, but I feel it is. You mentioned it earlier.

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Speaker 3: I mean, people I think, like are craving authenticity, whether

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Speaker 3: you know it's whether it's the food you see, the

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Speaker 3: fake meats are sort of flopping with consumers. That's why

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Speaker 3: they need to ban cows because it didn't take off

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Speaker 3: on its own. You see it with like when AI

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Speaker 3: videos get posted. You see this really cool AI video.

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Speaker 3: I guess it looks cool, but and then you think

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Speaker 3: to yourself, well that's actually kind of creepy, whether it's

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Speaker 3: a deep fake type thing or whatever. And you go

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Speaker 3: through the comments. It's just comment after comments saying this

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Speaker 3: is creepy, this is weird, And ultimately I think, you know,

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Speaker 3: go spend some time outside and you know, you'll realize

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Speaker 3: it's a beautiful place.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate that. All right, there you go some hope,

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Speaker 2: some hope.

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Speaker 1: Shamas Router. Control of Arcs is the name of the book.

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Speaker 1: Everyone't go get it. You can tell how well researched

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Speaker 1: it is important information. Seamus, thanks so much for joining us.

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Speaker 1: We appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Lisa.

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Speaker 1: I was Seamus Brunner, author of Controllo GARCS really interesting,

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Speaker 1: deeply disturbing stuff. Glad he's doing the research to bring

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Speaker 1: it to light. And for joining the show. I want

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Speaker 1: to thank you guys at home for listening every Monday

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Speaker 1: and Thursday, but you can listen throughout the week. I

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Speaker 1: want to thank John Cassio and my producer for putting

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Speaker 1: the show together.

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Speaker 2: Until next time,