1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:03,880 Speaker 1: Welcome. It is Verdict with Center, Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson 2 00:00:03,960 --> 00:00:05,480 Speaker 1: with you, and it's so nice to have some of 3 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:07,640 Speaker 1: you listening to us on the radio all over the 4 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:09,840 Speaker 1: country right now. And as a reminder, if you're listening 5 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:11,480 Speaker 1: to the show and you maybe have never heard it before, 6 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 1: we do this show as a podcast three days a 7 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:16,760 Speaker 1: week as well, and so you can download that podcast 8 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:19,959 Speaker 1: for free and listen automatically. 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We're going to talk about the Save Act and 19 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:50,279 Speaker 2: what we can do in the Senate to get this 20 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 2: pass to require that only American citizens can register to vote, 21 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 2: to require photo ID to vote, and what it's going 22 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 2: to take to break down the Democrats and and force 23 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:04,680 Speaker 2: this vote on the Senate floor. We're also going to 24 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 2: talk about a hearing that I chaired this week on 25 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 2: the Somali fraud in Minnesota. It is massive, and I'll 26 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 2: tell you at the hearing, the Democrats wanted to talk 27 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:18,760 Speaker 2: about absolutely anything else other than this massive fraud. We 28 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 2: came with the receipts. We're going to walk you through it. 29 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 2: And then this past week was really significant and that 30 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:30,759 Speaker 2: the American Medical Association reversed its position and they now 31 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 2: oppose sex change surgeries for children. That is a major shift. 32 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 2: It is in significant part a result of the two 33 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:45,320 Speaker 2: million dollar de Transitioner lawsuit. We're going to break down 34 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 2: what a sea change this is that the medical associations 35 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 2: that that we're pushing this propaganda have reversed course. 36 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 1: Now, yeah, it really is incredible and it's gonna, I 37 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 1: honestly think, save a lot of kids' lives, and I 38 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 1: mean that sincerely, especially when you deal with the suicide 39 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 1: rates that are all connected to all that issue. We're 40 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 1: going to talk about that coming up as well. 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That's Compassion dot com, 58 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 1: all right, Senator, So let's talk about the Save Act. 59 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 1: It was brought up and it was a part of 60 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 1: the discussion of the debate even with a partial government 61 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 1: shut down. There are a lot of conservatives that I've 62 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 1: talked to this past week. They don't understand why this 63 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:29,960 Speaker 1: hasn't happened already, It's already come out of the House before. 64 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:33,640 Speaker 1: And the big question is why can't we just pass 65 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 1: it right now? I think there's a lot of misinformation 66 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 1: on this and it's not a fifty plus one vote 67 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 1: to get this done. It is sixty votes. You need 68 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 1: to get this done. And if you want to know 69 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 1: who to blame, look at the Democratic Party. They have 70 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 1: dug in. Chuck Schumer has made it very clear, and 71 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 1: there isn't a single Democrat that had his blessing to 72 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 1: vote in favor of this thing. He's calling it Jim 73 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 1: Crow two point zero. 74 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 2: Well, the Save Act, which was initially introduced in the 75 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 2: House of Represented it was by Chip Roy, my former 76 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 2: chief of staff. Save Act requires proof of American citizenship 77 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 2: to register to vote. Its common sense legislation. And then 78 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 2: actually President Trump has changed it. And President Trump did 79 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 2: two changes. Number one, he wanted to change the name 80 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:20,280 Speaker 2: from the Save Act to the Save America Act, so 81 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:22,679 Speaker 2: now the President is calling it the Save America Act. 82 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 2: Number two, he wanted to add to it not just 83 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:28,919 Speaker 2: proof of citizenship to register to vote, but also a 84 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 2: requirement of photo ID to vote. We've done that. I 85 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 2: am a sponsor of the Save America Act. I think 86 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:40,480 Speaker 2: it makes absolute sense. But the challenge is is that 87 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 2: the Democrats are dug in and are rapidly opposing it. 88 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 2: And under the Senate rules, it takes sixty votes to 89 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 2: move forward, and right now we can anticipate every Senate 90 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 2: Democrat voting no. Now we're going to break down where 91 00:04:57,360 --> 00:04:59,280 Speaker 2: public opinion is on this, and then I'm going to 92 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 2: tell you this strategy that I'm urging John Thune in 93 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 2: Republican leadership to do to get this done in the Senate. 94 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:09,719 Speaker 2: But first of all, let's just cover where the polling is. 95 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:12,480 Speaker 2: I want you to give a listen to actually something 96 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 2: pretty remarkable. I want you to listen to Chuck Schumer 97 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 2: actually on Morning Joe So on MSNBC being questioned about 98 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:27,040 Speaker 2: just how much support there is for the Save America Act. 99 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 3: So, Leader Schumer, this talk about election security has revived 100 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 3: discussions of the Save Act, which you have said you oppose. 101 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 3: Proponents of it say that it's you know, to have idea, 102 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 3: have to prove you has citizenship to be able to vote. 103 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:42,480 Speaker 3: If some of the claims they make, to be clear 104 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 3: are overstated. We know there's not widespread election fraud but 105 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 3: polling does suggest. There's a new Pew Research poll that 106 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 3: ninety five percent of Republicans but also seventy one percent 107 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:56,039 Speaker 3: of Democrats like this idea. 108 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:57,039 Speaker 2: So why do you not? 109 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 4: It's Jim Crow to point and I called it Jim 110 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:04,480 Speaker 4: Crow two point zero, and the right wing went nuts 111 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 4: all over the internet. That's because they know it's true. 112 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 4: What they're trying to do here is the same thing 113 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:12,720 Speaker 4: that was done in the South for decades to prevent 114 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 4: people of color from voting. For instance, if you can't 115 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 4: if you change you're a woman who got married and 116 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 4: changed your last name, you won't be able to show 117 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 4: ID and you'll be discriminated against. If you can't find 118 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 4: a birth certificate or a proper ID, you'll be discriminated against. 119 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 4: This is vicious and nasty, and I said to our 120 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 4: Republican colleagues, it will not pass the Senate. You will 121 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:37,159 Speaker 4: not get a single Democratic vote in the Senate. We're 122 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:40,840 Speaker 4: not reviving Jim Crow all over the country now. 123 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 1: Senator, Look, I actually believe him. I think it's very 124 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 1: clear he's shot multiple shots, big ones, across the bow 125 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 1: of every Democrat in the Senate. You are not going 126 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 1: to give the Republicans as victory. The part though there 127 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 1: that he talks about being Jim Crow. He's not listening 128 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 1: to African Americans this country because more than seventy percent 129 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:02,160 Speaker 1: in a pole that was put out by CNN that 130 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 1: they were talking and they were mentioning that same pole 131 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 1: there and I want to play it. This was CNN's 132 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 1: own words breaking down the support for voter ID based 133 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 1: on race. Take a listen to this. 134 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 5: Take a look here, favorite photo ID to vote. Eighty 135 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 5: five percent of white people favorite, eighty two percent of Latino, 136 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 5: seventy six percent of Black Americans favorite. So the bottom 137 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 5: line is this, voter ID is not controversial in this country. 138 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 5: A photo ID to vote is not controversial in this country. 139 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 5: It is not controversial by party, and it is not 140 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 5: controversial by race. The vast majority of Americans agree with 141 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 5: Nicki Minaj that, in fact, you should have a photo 142 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 5: ID to be able to vote. 143 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 1: So you listen to him and again go back to 144 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 1: this seventy eight I'm sorry, she's seventy six percent of Blacks, 145 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 1: eighty two percent of Latino, eighty five percent of white 146 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 1: and that's coming from CNN. 147 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:57,679 Speaker 2: Senator, Look, the American people overwhelmingly support photo ID to vote, 148 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:00,040 Speaker 2: because it's a common sense step. You have to have 149 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 2: have a photo ID to drive a car, you have 150 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 2: to have a photo ID. To get her an airplane, 151 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 2: you have to have a photo ID. To buy a 152 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 2: beer at a bar, you have to have a photo 153 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 2: I D. You have to look. They know it. It 154 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 2: is popular. And by the way, I will say, look 155 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 2: Schumer using the rhetoric about Jim Crow, there is an 156 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 2: irony and that it was his party. It was the 157 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 2: Democrats who enacted the Jim Crow laws. It was his party, 158 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 2: the Democrats who created the KKK. It was his party, 159 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:33,200 Speaker 2: the Democrats that that that that kept the system of 160 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:39,320 Speaker 2: segregation in for decades. He uses this rhetoric because the 161 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:43,679 Speaker 2: Democrats do not care that Democrats overwhelmingly supported voters. They 162 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:46,679 Speaker 2: don't care that African Americans in Hispanic support it. They 163 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 2: have a partisan position. They are for voter fraud. 164 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:52,840 Speaker 1: The other question I want to ask you is why 165 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:57,199 Speaker 1: are Democrats so opposed to it if it's not about cheating, 166 00:08:57,520 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 1: Because if White's air at eighty five latinos ay two in 167 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 1: Blacks of seventy six, I'm not sure there's that many 168 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:06,080 Speaker 1: subjects in America, you could get this type of consensus 169 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 1: on including Republicans and Democrats as identify as it. Republicans 170 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 1: and Democrats also overwhelmingly agree this is a good thing. 171 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:17,680 Speaker 2: Yeah. Look, the American people overwhelmingly support photo ID to vote. 172 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 2: The Democrats are not opposing this because their base is 173 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:24,559 Speaker 2: telling them to oppose it. As we talked about, seventy 174 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 2: one percent of Democrats voters think photo ID to vote 175 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 2: is a good idea. They're opposing it for two reasons. 176 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:36,320 Speaker 2: Number one, they're opposing it, I believe because voter fraud 177 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 2: is a real and persistent problem, and they count on 178 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:40,719 Speaker 2: voter fraud to help them win elections, and so they 179 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:44,599 Speaker 2: don't want photo ID because they want cheating. If you 180 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 2: look at the Democrats when they have control over elections, 181 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:52,959 Speaker 2: they put in place policies that expand voter fraud. And 182 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 2: by the way, look look, if you're not inclined to 183 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 2: believe me, you might say, Okay, Cruz is being a Republican. 184 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 2: Although if you're not inclined to believe me, I am 185 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 2: wondering why you're listening to verdict with Ted Cruz. But 186 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:07,960 Speaker 2: set that aside. If you're not inclined to believe me, 187 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 2: Maybe you would believe Democrat President Jimmy Carter. Because Democrat 188 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 2: President Jimmy Carter joined with former Republican Secretary of State 189 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 2: James Baker. They chaired what was called the Carter Baker 190 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:25,560 Speaker 2: Commission studying voter fraud. They concluded voter fraud as real, 191 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:28,200 Speaker 2: it is a problem. It has changed the outcome of elections, 192 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 2: and they recommended a series of steps to prevent voter fraud. 193 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 2: They recommended number one limiting the use of mail in 194 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:38,559 Speaker 2: ballots because mail in ballots make it easier to cheat. 195 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:43,200 Speaker 2: They recommended number two requiring photo ID to vote because 196 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:46,320 Speaker 2: that makes it harder to cheat. They recommended number three 197 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 2: prohibiting ballot harvesting, prohibiting paid political operatives being able to 198 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:56,079 Speaker 2: collect the ballots of others because that invites voter fraud. Well, Ben, 199 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 2: do you know what the position is now of Chuck 200 00:10:58,080 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 2: Schumer and every congressional Democrat. 201 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:04,200 Speaker 1: It is to oppose any type of voter ID. 202 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:08,599 Speaker 2: It's worse than that. They literally went down the recommendations 203 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 2: of the Carter Baker Commission on how to stop voter fraud, 204 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 2: and they reversed them all. So the Carter Baker Commission said, 205 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 2: if you want to stop voter fraud, limit mail in ballots. 206 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 2: The Democrat want mail in ballots in every election. The 207 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 2: Carter Baker Commission said, require photo ID. The Democrats are 208 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 2: adamantly opposed to photo ID and the most pernicious ballot harvesting. 209 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 2: The Carter Baker Commission said on equivocally ballot harvesting invites 210 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:38,560 Speaker 2: it encourages voter fraud. What is the position of Democrats. 211 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 2: They want ballot harvesting. They have made a political decision, 212 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 2: by the way, they want. 213 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:47,840 Speaker 1: To explain ballot harvesting to people that don't understand that 214 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:50,079 Speaker 1: that terminology. It's been used a lot, But what does 215 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 1: it mean. 216 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:54,079 Speaker 2: So let's take a state like California. Ballot harvesting is 217 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 2: legal in California. What it means is you could have 218 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 2: a paid political operative. Some new works for the Democrats. 219 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:02,839 Speaker 2: Go to nursing home. Go to a nursing home and 220 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 2: fill out the ballots with the elderly people with them, 221 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:09,200 Speaker 2: and take their ballots. So, okay, mister Jones, who are 222 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 2: you gonna vote for? Who you're gonna vote for? Let's 223 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 2: do it together. They take the ballots and you can 224 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 2: have one operative collecting hundreds of ballots. Why does that 225 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:20,560 Speaker 2: invite fraud. Well, let's say you're sitting there and mister 226 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 2: Jones votes for Donald Trump. If you're an unscrupulous operative, 227 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 2: you know what you do. You take that ballot and 228 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 2: throw in the trash like nobody checks to see if 229 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:30,440 Speaker 2: you send them in in. 230 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 6: Yeah. 231 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:33,960 Speaker 2: And by the way, if you have, say in nursing homes, 232 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:36,960 Speaker 2: people with dementia, people that are not there, if you're 233 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 2: sitting there filling out their ballot with them, you can 234 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 2: just vote for the Democrat. And so it sets up 235 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:47,960 Speaker 2: a way for paid operatives to cheat, and it makes 236 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 2: it very easy to cheat. The Democrats have made a 237 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:59,320 Speaker 2: political decision. They are for election fraud. Secondly v Secondly, 238 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 2: though Chuck Schumer when he says it's Jim Crow two 239 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 2: point zero, I think they view this issue as a 240 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 2: way to gin up the extremes in their base and 241 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 2: to scare people. Look, Jim Crow two point zero would 242 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 2: be bad. I don't want to see a bunch of 243 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:17,080 Speaker 2: racist Democrats putting laws in place that hurt minorities like 244 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 2: they did before. And it's all about scary rhetoric. So 245 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:26,720 Speaker 2: it's a combination of encouraging fraud and using scary rhetoric. 246 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 2: Now here's the question, Ben, how do we get this 247 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 2: done if the Democrats are adamantly going to oppose it. 248 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 2: I'll tell you what I am urging the other Republican senators. 249 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:40,679 Speaker 2: What I'm urging our leadership is we should nuke what's 250 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 2: called the zombie filibuster. What does that mean? So under 251 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 2: the Senate rules, it takes sixty votes to end debate, 252 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 2: and it used to be for most of the history 253 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 2: of the Senate to do a filibuster you had to 254 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:54,960 Speaker 2: stand up and talk and talk and talk. You remember, 255 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 2: back in twenty thirteen against Obamacare, I did a twenty 256 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:01,320 Speaker 2: one hour filibuster and talked for twenty one hours straight. 257 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:04,439 Speaker 2: That used to be how you had to do it. Now, 258 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:07,720 Speaker 2: we don't make the Democrats talk and talk and talk 259 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:11,080 Speaker 2: and fill the airspace. We just let them vote no, no, 260 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 2: I'm voting to filibuster. And once I say I'm filibustering, 261 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 2: we're done. We can force them one after the other 262 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 2: to stand up, to stand up, to keep talking, to 263 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 2: keep talking and keep talking and make the filibuster really painful. 264 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 2: Now there's another side of it, though, The Democrats can 265 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 2: keep challenging whether we have a quorum on the Senate floor. 266 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 2: What that means is that we've got to be able 267 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 2: to produce fifty bodies. We've got to have at least 268 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 2: fifty Republican senators who could show up on the Senate 269 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 2: floor and demonstrate a quorum. So it is painful for 270 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 2: both the majority and the minority. And right now it's 271 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 2: not clear that we have fifty Republicans who support doing this. 272 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 2: I am making the case this week. I made the 273 00:14:57,440 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 2: case vigorously to my Republican college. Mike Lee is making 274 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 2: the case vigorously to our Republican colleagues. Rick Scott is 275 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 2: making the case vigorously to our Republican colleagues. But it's 276 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 2: not clear if we have fifty or not. If we 277 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 2: don't have fifty, we can't do it. And so I 278 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 2: think we ought to make it incredibly painful for Democrats 279 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 2: and do everything we can to try to push them 280 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 2: to the point of exhaustion, and if they get to 281 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 2: that point, then we can pass the Save America Act. 282 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, by the way, I've been saying this on TV. 283 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 1: I think it's really important that Republicans explain that we're 284 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 1: in favor of this, but we have to have ten 285 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 1: Democrats to get this thing seven seven sorry, excuse seven, 286 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 1: I should say seven Democrats to get this thing done. 287 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 1: And without getting those seven to get us to the 288 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 1: perfect number of sixty. 289 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 2: And understand, we will get zero. We're not going to 290 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 2: get seven. We're not going to get one. Every Democrat 291 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 2: will follow Schumer's orders on this. 292 00:15:56,480 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 1: All right, Senata, you did something that was really underreported 293 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 1: this and it was important, I say, and a reporter 294 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 1: because there's a partial government shut down. There was a 295 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 1: Trump coming out with Trump our Ax as well. There 296 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 1: was a lot going on, but this dealt with Somali 297 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 1: fraud and we need to take some real time to 298 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 1: discuss exactly what you helped expose this week of what's 299 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 1: going on in Minnesota. 300 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 2: Well, I'm the chairman of the Oversight Subcommittee the Senate 301 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 2: Judiciary Committee, and I convened to hearing and charity hearing 302 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 2: this week on the massive fraud that we saw in 303 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 2: Minnesota with the Somali community and had witnesses including the 304 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 2: whistleblower who joined with the YouTuber and exposing the fraud. 305 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 2: And I got to say, as we were going through 306 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 2: the evidence of the biggest fraud in recorded history that 307 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 2: was done with the complicity of Democrat officeholders. It was 308 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 2: amazing Democrat senators wanted to talk about absolutely any other 309 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 2: topic other than the actual facts of what happened. 310 00:16:58,640 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 4: Here. 311 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 2: Give a listen to what I had to say the 312 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:06,679 Speaker 2: hero Federal prosecutors in Minnesota now estimate that half or 313 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 2: more of the eighteen billion dollars spent since twenty eighteen 314 00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:17,200 Speaker 2: across fourteen Minnesota welfare programs may have been lost to fraud. 315 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 2: If confirmed, the amount stolen would rank among the largest 316 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:28,640 Speaker 2: welfare frauds in American history. In Minnesota, a welfare system 317 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 2: designed to uplift the most vulnerable children was treated like 318 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:38,920 Speaker 2: an open atm, exploiting both taxpayers and the public trust 319 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:45,240 Speaker 2: extended to immigrant communities. Over the last decade. Minnesota Democrats 320 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 2: didn't just fail to stop the fraud, they made it 321 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:55,119 Speaker 2: easy and profitable, and, in a totally lawless fashion, silenced 322 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 2: anyone who pointed it out. Taken together, the record show 323 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:04,399 Speaker 2: that the fraud was not accidental or unforseeable, but was 324 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:10,520 Speaker 2: the product of deliberate inaction, willful blindness, and calculated abuse. 325 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:15,200 Speaker 1: At this point I got to ask you this question, center, 326 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 1: is there any government program in Minnesota that is not 327 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:22,679 Speaker 1: being abused by the Somali community When they figure out 328 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 1: a way to defraud it, they just go all in. 329 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 2: If you look at the numbers the percentages of the 330 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:36,200 Speaker 2: Somali community in Minnesota that are on welfare, they're staggering. Here, 331 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 2: give a listen from the hearing. The programs move billions 332 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:45,480 Speaker 2: of dollars each year, and they're concentrated within a relatively 333 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 2: small number of administrative pipelines. Soota Somali community receives welfare 334 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:55,359 Speaker 2: benefits at rates far higher than the state average, making 335 00:18:55,400 --> 00:19:00,359 Speaker 2: these programs both financially significant and politically sensitive. In a 336 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 2: state where the two closest statewide elections were decided by 337 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 2: less than one percent, the Somali community votes overwhelmingly Democrat. 338 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:16,120 Speaker 2: The numbers are stark. Eighty one percent of Somali households 339 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:19,800 Speaker 2: in Minnesota received some form of welfare eighty one percent 340 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:25,399 Speaker 2: compared to twenty one percent of non Somali households. Fifty 341 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:28,639 Speaker 2: four percent of Somali households receive food stamps compared to 342 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:34,399 Speaker 2: seven percent of non Somali households. Seventy three percent are 343 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:40,440 Speaker 2: enrolled in medicaid compared to eighteen percent of non Somali households, 344 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:45,919 Speaker 2: and twenty seven percent received cash assistance compared to six 345 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:49,200 Speaker 2: percent of non Somali households. 346 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:52,440 Speaker 1: Bender you hear those numbers are staggering, and I also 347 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:55,399 Speaker 1: think what's scary is what we're witnessing here is also 348 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:57,919 Speaker 1: the type of fraud that's now being uncovered in other states, 349 00:19:57,920 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 1: including California. 350 00:19:59,119 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 2: Its shocking. 351 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:03,119 Speaker 1: Elon Musk was sweating about that earlier before we were 352 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:06,159 Speaker 1: doing the show, just like he can't even believe and 353 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:10,159 Speaker 1: he was the doge guy, just how much stealing and 354 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:12,919 Speaker 1: this is just great stealing from the American people is 355 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:15,920 Speaker 1: going on in virtually every government program that they can 356 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 1: get their hands on. It's happening. 357 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:22,640 Speaker 2: Look and it shows the fundamental corruption of Democrats. Number One, 358 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:26,479 Speaker 2: they imported vast numbers of illegal immigrants into this country, 359 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:29,840 Speaker 2: vast number of Somalis into this country. They put almost 360 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 2: all of them on welfare, so they're paying them. They 361 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:35,679 Speaker 2: put them on programs that are entirely fraudulent. They're taking 362 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:38,680 Speaker 2: that money sending it back to Somalia. That money, by 363 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:42,320 Speaker 2: the way, the Minnesota taxpayers are the number one funder 364 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:47,879 Speaker 2: of Al Shabab, the terrorist Islamist group in Somalia. It 365 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:52,440 Speaker 2: is received hundreds of millions of dollars in stolen money 366 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:56,440 Speaker 2: from the Minnesota taxpayers, and the Democrats are doing this deliberately, 367 00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:58,200 Speaker 2: and I gotta say it was amazing at this hearing. 368 00:20:59,880 --> 00:21:02,440 Speaker 2: The Democrat senators at the hearing did not dispute any 369 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 2: of what I'm saying. Instead, they just tried to change 370 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:08,479 Speaker 2: the subject. Give a listen to my response to their 371 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:13,479 Speaker 2: efforts to change the subject in that enormous word cloud. 372 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 2: Virtually nothing about nine billion dollars stolen from Minnesota taxpayers 373 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 2: by Somali fraudsters, with Democrat politicians knowing full well what 374 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:30,720 Speaker 2: is happening, facilitating it and harvesting votes and campaign dollars 375 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 2: from the people, robbing the children of Minnesota. My Democrat 376 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:39,960 Speaker 2: colleagues want you desperately not to focus on those facts, 377 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 2: and so instead, miraculously, the Democrats have discovered the Sermon 378 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:50,119 Speaker 2: on the Mount. Well, this hearing is going to focus 379 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:54,880 Speaker 2: on nine billion dollars stolen from the taxpayers and hundreds 380 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:57,880 Speaker 2: of millions of those dollars going to the Al Chabab 381 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:01,640 Speaker 2: terrorist organization fund did by the Democrats. 382 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:05,440 Speaker 1: You would think there would be some sort of accountability 383 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:09,640 Speaker 1: there on the point that you just made center and 384 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:12,880 Speaker 1: that is about money going to terrorist organizations. When when 385 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 1: you were talking about that, were was there any of 386 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:20,640 Speaker 1: the Democrats that were actually paying attention? Were they listening 387 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 1: or just so so because you put up a poster 388 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:25,119 Speaker 1: and I want to play this review, but it was. 389 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 1: And if you're watching on YouTube or Facebook, you actually 390 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 1: get to see this. But you have al Shabab al 391 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:33,199 Speaker 1: kad is most lethal affiliate, a poster of them on 392 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:36,399 Speaker 1: a truck as terrorists, and you have it up behind you. 393 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:38,159 Speaker 1: And I just want to play this very quickly for 394 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 1: people saying, hear what you said. 395 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 2: When billions of dollars are stolen from US welfare programs 396 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 2: and sent abroad, there is no credible way to ensure 397 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:51,120 Speaker 2: those funds do not enrich jahattist within al Shabab. As 398 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:56,640 Speaker 2: one confidential source told the Manhattan Institute, the largest funder 399 00:22:56,720 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 2: of al Shabab a Islam is this terrorist organization in 400 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:08,720 Speaker 2: Somalia is the Minnesota taxpayer. Listen to that again. The 401 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 2: single largest funder of al Shabab, a terrorist organization in 402 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 2: Somalia is the taxpayers of Minnesota. 403 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 1: I mean, how are people not going to jail for this? 404 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:24,679 Speaker 1: And are people going to go to jail? Because at 405 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 1: this point there are so many concerns tos say I 406 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 1: want someone arrested if we have our money going to terrorists. 407 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 1: Are someone gonna go to jail for this? Not some 408 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:35,960 Speaker 1: like not like a one fall guy. How is this 409 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:38,640 Speaker 1: not just like the patty wagons backing up and people 410 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 1: are going to jail. 411 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:44,080 Speaker 2: We need to prosecute every Democrat politician who was complicit 412 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:46,200 Speaker 2: in this. By the way, what I laid out about 413 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:48,920 Speaker 2: the money going to al Shabab, not a single Democrat 414 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:51,679 Speaker 2: senator disputed it. They didn't say a word about it. 415 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 2: I want you to listen to the back and forth 416 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 2: I had with the Democrat witness, the head of Public Citizen, 417 00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 2: that this left wing group who who really didn't want 418 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 2: to see anyone prosecuted for this fraud. Give a listen, 419 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 2: mister Weisman, you're co president of Public Citizen, which describes 420 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 2: itself as a consumer advocate and a pro democracy organization. 421 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:21,120 Speaker 2: Would you agree that the fraud in Minnesota was staggering 422 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:21,920 Speaker 2: and shocking. 423 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:25,200 Speaker 6: I agree that there is fraud of Minnesota. I don't 424 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:28,160 Speaker 6: believe these estimates are grounded in any evidence that I've seen. 425 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:30,720 Speaker 6: The nine billion dollar figure was based on a claim 426 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 6: just that well, I think that half of them must 427 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:37,760 Speaker 6: be fraudulent. I just heard a comment just saying boost 428 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:42,080 Speaker 6: the number up, but could be clearer and with respect, 429 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 6: you've missed my testimony. No question there's fraud of Minnesota, 430 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:47,200 Speaker 6: and absolutely I share your righteous anger about whatever degree 431 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:47,960 Speaker 6: of fraud was there. 432 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:52,439 Speaker 2: Do you agree that any Democrat politician, or let me 433 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:56,480 Speaker 2: be clear, any Republican politician that had knowledge of the 434 00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 2: fraud and was complicit should be prosecuted. 435 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 6: I'm not sure what they're being prosecuted for it. But 436 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:07,199 Speaker 6: also in my testimony I described also outside of Minnesota, 437 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:11,480 Speaker 6: the manifold ways that this administration is enabling fraud. 438 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 2: Look, I understand, and the reason hold on, hold on, 439 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:17,159 Speaker 2: hold on standard is that you want I'm going to 440 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 2: ask a question and then you can answer it. Yes, sir, 441 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:24,720 Speaker 2: your organization describes itself as a pro democracy organization. I'm 442 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 2: going to try to find out if you actually are 443 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:31,239 Speaker 2: pro democracy or if you're simply pro Democrat and are 444 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 2: a partisan. We've seen the Democrats who want to change 445 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 2: the topic So I get you want to testify how 446 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:41,119 Speaker 2: much you hate Donald Trump. But I'm quite certain Donald 447 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:44,119 Speaker 2: Trump was not running a fraudulent daycare center or a 448 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:49,200 Speaker 2: fraudulent autism center in Minnesota. So all of the talking 449 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:51,960 Speaker 2: points about how you dislike Trump, set them aside. We 450 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 2: will see the Democrats on this committee go down those 451 00:25:54,800 --> 00:26:01,040 Speaker 2: talking points. Do you believe elected politicians in Minnesota who 452 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 2: were aware of this fraud and we're complicit in it 453 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 2: should be prosecuted, Should there be accountability? 454 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 6: There absolutely should be accountability. It is not normal to 455 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:13,359 Speaker 6: prosecute government officials for not prosecuting fraud. That is not 456 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:15,639 Speaker 6: a stand around I'm aware of that you've advocated, or 457 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:17,359 Speaker 6: that anyone else is advocated in the Senate. 458 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:21,160 Speaker 2: So do you think it's perfectly okay if let's say, 459 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:24,480 Speaker 2: if let's say Governor Waltz or Attorney General Ellison knew 460 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 2: about the fraud, benefited from the fraud in terms of 461 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:30,520 Speaker 2: bundling votes, benefited from the frauds in terms of collecting 462 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:34,440 Speaker 2: campaign finance violations, and deliberately looked the other way. You 463 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 2: think that you think that's not criminal conduct? 464 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:41,680 Speaker 6: In that hypothetical, it is not okay. D P not okay, 465 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 6: but also, if you'll permit me that hypothetical is in 466 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:46,840 Speaker 6: fact happening throughout. 467 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 2: Okay, yes, I get it. You you dislike Trump. I understand, sir. 468 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:56,080 Speaker 2: Whether it's so, let me let me, let me not 469 00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:59,639 Speaker 2: interrupt me. Please do not I please do not interrupt me. 470 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:03,960 Speaker 2: Please do not interrupting, Sir. You may answer questions after 471 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:08,480 Speaker 2: I asked. You've heard the evidence and testimony about daycare 472 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:13,600 Speaker 2: centers with no children, with no toys, with no facilities, 473 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:17,199 Speaker 2: with windows that are blacked out? Do you believe it 474 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:20,679 Speaker 2: is possible that the officials sending millions of dollars to 475 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:24,879 Speaker 2: those fake daycare centers and fake autism senators didn't know 476 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 2: what was going on. 477 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:29,399 Speaker 6: Well, what I heard was claims about that, and I 478 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:33,440 Speaker 6: too have watched the video. We're both parents. I'm glad 479 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:36,400 Speaker 6: that the childcare centers don't open their door for someone 480 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:39,399 Speaker 6: who's knocking there. I don't view that as evidence that 481 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 6: the childcare centers are fake childcare centers, although I'm sure 482 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:47,359 Speaker 6: there are some. My understanding is that state investigators have 483 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 6: gone to do their duty at those exact same child 484 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:52,719 Speaker 6: centers and have found that most of them actually are 485 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:53,600 Speaker 6: operating correctly. 486 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:56,200 Speaker 2: Well, I will say it is disappointing that you had 487 00:27:56,200 --> 00:28:00,520 Speaker 2: a chance, leading a nonprofit that is supposedly pro tomocracy, 488 00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:04,280 Speaker 2: to take a principal stand. Instead, you decided to defend 489 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:08,639 Speaker 2: the Somali fraudsters because it benefits elected center. 490 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:12,760 Speaker 1: It really is amazing the Democrats will defend this type 491 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:15,679 Speaker 1: of corruption in fraud and they'll do it right to 492 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:16,200 Speaker 1: your face. 493 00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. Look, they affirmatively support it. They benefit from it, 494 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:21,879 Speaker 2: they get elected. Look, one of the things I said 495 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:26,119 Speaker 2: in the hearing, the two closest statewide elections in Minnesota 496 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:29,280 Speaker 2: were one point races. So this is the difference between 497 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:32,320 Speaker 2: Democrats winning and losing. And I got to say, by 498 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 2: the way, I invited to this hearing, Minnesota Governor Tim Waltz, 499 00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:41,480 Speaker 2: I invited Minnesota Attorney General Keith Ellison. I invited Minneapolis 500 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:45,320 Speaker 2: Mayor Jacob Fry. All three of them refused to come. 501 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:47,280 Speaker 2: They could have come and defended themselves. They could have 502 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 2: come and said that they were not complicit in this, 503 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:54,320 Speaker 2: but they effectively went in went in into witness protection. Yeah, 504 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 2: and Ben, I don't know if you saw what our 505 00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:59,600 Speaker 2: friend John Kennedy said this past week about Tim Waltz. 506 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 2: What did he say. He said, Tim Waltz is a 507 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 2: less masculine version of Hillary Clinton. 508 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:10,120 Speaker 1: We should put that on the back of the Leering 509 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:13,200 Speaker 1: Center shirts, right, like the Leering Center on the front, 510 00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:16,400 Speaker 1: back quote on the back. I love it, truly incredible. 511 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:16,680 Speaker 2: All right. 512 00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:18,440 Speaker 1: Lastly, before we run out of time, Center, I do 513 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:20,480 Speaker 1: want to talk about a big victory this week for 514 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 1: protecting kids. And we're seeing new guidances coming out saying 515 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:28,720 Speaker 1: that you shouldn't be mutilating children with transition surgeries until 516 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:32,440 Speaker 1: they're adults. That's a no brainer. But now we're seeing 517 00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 1: a big change and this is going to save the 518 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:36,160 Speaker 1: lives of many children. 519 00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:40,240 Speaker 2: Yeah. So this week the American Society of Plastic Surgeons 520 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 2: announced that it no longer supported quote, gender affirming surgeries 521 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 2: for children under eighteen. This is a big reversal. And 522 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:55,000 Speaker 2: then the next day, the American Medical Association said it 523 00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:59,200 Speaker 2: agrees with the American Society of Plastic Surgeons about the surgery. 524 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:01,920 Speaker 2: And so the am said, also, you should not do 525 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:05,480 Speaker 2: these surgeries for miners, and the AMA said in the 526 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:10,800 Speaker 2: statement that because quote the evidence for gender affirming surgical 527 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:15,160 Speaker 2: intervention in minors is insufficient for us to make a 528 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:21,240 Speaker 2: definitive statement. The AMA agrees with ASPS that surgical interventions 529 00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:26,680 Speaker 2: and minors should generally be deferred to adulthood. That is 530 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:30,120 Speaker 2: a big, big deal. Just a couple of years ago, 531 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:33,200 Speaker 2: the AMA and all these medical groups were pushing do 532 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:37,440 Speaker 2: the surgeries sterilize the kids? And and one of the 533 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:42,640 Speaker 2: real triggers was the two million dollar malpractice lawsuit that 534 00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:47,000 Speaker 2: was one by Detransition or Fox Varian and that I'm. 535 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:49,560 Speaker 1: Interesting that happens in BAM. Now every one of these 536 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:52,520 Speaker 1: woke groups and the doctor groups that we're all making 537 00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:54,760 Speaker 1: millions off this, So like, hold on a second, let's 538 00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:56,640 Speaker 1: change it. We don't want to lose all of our money. 539 00:30:57,400 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 2: Yeah. And by the way, to give you a sense 540 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:03,120 Speaker 2: of just what a massive shift this is. In twenty 541 00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:07,000 Speaker 2: twenty one, here's what the AMA said on its website quote, 542 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:11,640 Speaker 2: The American Medical Association today strengthened its established position opposing 543 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:15,120 Speaker 2: the governmental intrusion into the practice of medicine that is 544 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:18,680 Speaker 2: detrimental to the health of transgender and gender diverse children 545 00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:22,520 Speaker 2: and adults. Legislators in twenty states this year proposed batting 546 00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:26,880 Speaker 2: physicians and other healthcare professionals from providing medically necessary gender 547 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:31,760 Speaker 2: affirming care to transgender and gender diverse youth. In response 548 00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:35,400 Speaker 2: to this legislative trend, physicians and medical students at the 549 00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:39,600 Speaker 2: AMA's House of Delegates meeting voted to meaningfully expand the 550 00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:46,080 Speaker 2: organization's strong opposition to undue restrictions on medical care to 551 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:51,080 Speaker 2: populations that have been politicized in state legislatures. That was 552 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:53,239 Speaker 2: five years ago. And you want to talk about a 553 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:56,240 Speaker 2: massive sea change. That's a big, big deal. 554 00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:58,080 Speaker 1: Yes, Center, it really is. 555 00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:01,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I'll tell you JK. Rowling, who's really been 556 00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:05,000 Speaker 2: courageous on this topic. She put out a long tweet 557 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:08,440 Speaker 2: this week that on this topic that's worth reflecting on. 558 00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:12,160 Speaker 2: She said. A young d transitioner, Fox Variant, has won 559 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:15,520 Speaker 2: two million dollars damages in a medical malpractice lawsuit in 560 00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:19,520 Speaker 2: which she sued the psychologist and surgeon who approved her 561 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:22,800 Speaker 2: for a double masectomy age sixteen. Remember they told us 562 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:25,640 Speaker 2: that wasn't happening. Well, it happened to her. Yeah. Varian's 563 00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:29,040 Speaker 2: mother testified that she'd been against the surgery, but was 564 00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:32,160 Speaker 2: pressured into agreeing because she'd been told that unless her 565 00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:36,320 Speaker 2: daughter transition, she was likely to commit suicide. As the 566 00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:40,440 Speaker 2: floodgates open, and more and more detransitioners sue the clinicians 567 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:46,040 Speaker 2: who subjected them to an unregulated medical experiment. Gender identity 568 00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:49,400 Speaker 2: activists will almost certainly continue to ignore any evidence that 569 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:54,120 Speaker 2: fails to support their preferred narrative, and she goes on 570 00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:56,480 Speaker 2: to say this will go down in history as one 571 00:32:56,480 --> 00:33:00,520 Speaker 2: of the worst medical scandals of all time. Adults inside 572 00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:03,640 Speaker 2: and outside the medical profession sold troubled young people like 573 00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:08,000 Speaker 2: Varian the idea that all of their complex trauma would 574 00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:11,600 Speaker 2: be resolved by removing healthy body parts. You know what, 575 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:15,560 Speaker 2: woke is receding, and that's a huge victory. It's a 576 00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:18,160 Speaker 2: huge victory for kids, and it's a huge victory for sanity. 577 00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:20,800 Speaker 1: Amen to that. Don't forget we did the show as 578 00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:23,240 Speaker 1: a podcast as well, so make sure you download it 579 00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:26,520 Speaker 1: wherever you get your podcasts. Monday, Wednesday and Friday, hit 580 00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:28,400 Speaker 1: that subscriber auto down aloadle Butt and you can also 581 00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:30,800 Speaker 1: watch us on YouTube as well. And if you've been 582 00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:32,680 Speaker 1: listening on the radio, thanks for joining us. We'll see 583 00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:34,400 Speaker 1: you back here on this radio station next week and 584 00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:36,960 Speaker 1: all week on the podcast. 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