WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys Break: Dez; Switz; Raiders & More 0:00:06.360 --> 0:00:11.520 This is the Talking Cowboys Break, streaming live on Dallas 0:00:11.560 --> 0:00:16.479 Cowboys dot Com and the officials Dallas Cowboys Out. I 0:00:16.480 --> 0:00:19.440 think we're hanging with the Talking Cowboys Break here as 0:00:19.440 --> 0:00:23.000 we're adding another show in here. Everyone's represented. Nate Newton 0:00:23.079 --> 0:00:27.400 joins us from Hanging with the Boys, our favorite show. 0:00:27.800 --> 0:00:32.280 Brian brought us, formerly of the Break and formerly of 0:00:32.360 --> 0:00:35.000 Talking Cowboys, trading around like an old pair of socks. 0:00:36.120 --> 0:00:38.599 I'm Nick Eatman and Mickey Spengola will be joining us 0:00:38.640 --> 0:00:41.560 here in a little bit. We're gonna kind of finished 0:00:41.560 --> 0:00:43.640 this week off here. It's been a good week of 0:00:43.760 --> 0:00:46.040 practice at the start the Cowboys is the first time 0:00:46.080 --> 0:00:49.000 they've practiced here at Frisco. Uh fans got a chance 0:00:49.040 --> 0:00:51.360 to come out, and the Dallas Fort Worth chance to 0:00:51.360 --> 0:00:53.960 come out. I'm sure all of us have got a 0:00:54.000 --> 0:00:56.760 chance to shake hands with people as we walk through, 0:00:56.840 --> 0:00:59.720 and absolutely people that you know, It's it's kind of 0:00:59.720 --> 0:01:01.760 weird when you think about it. California gets to see 0:01:01.760 --> 0:01:04.160 these cowboys a lot. It's been They've been Austin, which 0:01:04.319 --> 0:01:08.440 all falls thankfully, but um but here in Dallas. You know, 0:01:08.480 --> 0:01:10.800 training camp in Dallas is not a new thing. But 0:01:10.880 --> 0:01:14.760 I think it's gone pretty well. Practicing inside you would say, yeah, 0:01:14.760 --> 0:01:17.240 you know, we we were all part of the Wichita 0:01:17.360 --> 0:01:21.240 Falls experiment. You know we were. But let me talk 0:01:21.280 --> 0:01:23.440 about that real quick, you know. And Nick brought up 0:01:23.440 --> 0:01:26.960 a point about practicing indoors. You you'd love that back 0:01:26.959 --> 0:01:29.679 in the day after doing with Austin, Wichita Falls, all 0:01:29.720 --> 0:01:33.080 those places that you know, the way you guys practice, 0:01:32.800 --> 0:01:35.520 you're different type of player too. Yeah, yeah, we uh 0:01:35.680 --> 0:01:38.440 we had to go ahead it hard two days for 0:01:38.680 --> 0:01:42.640 a minimum maybe ten days, and that was straight yeah, 0:01:42.680 --> 0:01:45.679 two day practices every day, So you would we would 0:01:45.680 --> 0:01:48.200 have loved especially when we to Wichita Falls. Oh my gosh. 0:01:48.240 --> 0:01:50.240 You know, we could bear a little bit better at 0:01:50.240 --> 0:01:54.120 saying it was in Austin, but wow, I mean, it 0:01:54.240 --> 0:01:57.840 wasn't only a long walk out to practice. It was 0:01:57.880 --> 0:01:59.960 a long walk away from practice. It was a long 0:02:00.200 --> 0:02:02.360 walk back to the day. It's like nothing was right 0:02:03.520 --> 0:02:06.520 and the heat one hundred and ten degrees when nothing 0:02:06.640 --> 0:02:10.679 was right about that place. Hold on, hold on, that's 0:02:10.680 --> 0:02:13.120 a school. He's gonna fight you going to school. But 0:02:13.480 --> 0:02:17.000 I mean I have none against the educational part. None 0:02:17.040 --> 0:02:19.600 against there you go, the academic part of this school. 0:02:19.840 --> 0:02:23.400 But I'm talking about logistically, it was. Yeah, I'm gonna 0:02:23.400 --> 0:02:25.920 admit some I didn't help you with teammates. I didn't 0:02:25.960 --> 0:02:27.680 do a very good job of getting your teammates for 0:02:27.760 --> 0:02:30.440 what you were used to playing with. Did that take 0:02:30.520 --> 0:02:35.080 something otter that team? Did that practice takes Yes, because 0:02:35.080 --> 0:02:38.240 you guys took advantage of the heat in Austin had 0:02:38.280 --> 0:02:43.720 better teammates. Nah, but no, brother, No, when you when 0:02:43.720 --> 0:02:47.560 you in a hundred degree weather with with the index 0:02:47.600 --> 0:02:51.120 one hundred and ten, sure it does not work. You 0:02:51.120 --> 0:02:55.320 can take you can take uh the youngest, strongest, most 0:02:55.360 --> 0:02:58.400 gifted athletes out there and you run them ten days 0:02:58.440 --> 0:03:01.600 of that right there. I mean it was you know 0:03:01.639 --> 0:03:03.760 how the things in the plane when you hit a 0:03:03.800 --> 0:03:07.600 certain attitude of things oxygen mast all. Yeah, it's like 0:03:07.600 --> 0:03:09.000 when we used to go right in the training room 0:03:09.120 --> 0:03:14.000 just just fall out. I remember that, Remember Nick, Remember 0:03:14.040 --> 0:03:17.680 walking into that fieldhouse to Colis Cumare and there were 0:03:17.520 --> 0:03:20.400 there were beds. They were like fifty beds of just 0:03:20.840 --> 0:03:23.480 people you know, laid up in Wake us up, hey man, 0:03:23.480 --> 0:03:25.200 it's trying to go to lunch, like, hey man, just 0:03:25.200 --> 0:03:27.840 feed me IV Yeah, And I tell you can I 0:03:27.840 --> 0:03:29.600 tell you the flip side of that that you guys 0:03:29.639 --> 0:03:32.320 probably don't even know that football team out there because 0:03:32.320 --> 0:03:34.200 I was a student at Midwestern State right there, and 0:03:34.240 --> 0:03:37.400 that that's how I got hooked up here. But there 0:03:37.480 --> 0:03:39.640 were a bad football team. They were making a transition 0:03:39.680 --> 0:03:42.720 from NAI school to Division two and one, two to 0:03:42.800 --> 0:03:45.800 three games a year at at most. But but being 0:03:45.920 --> 0:03:50.120 there and having and Mickey Spagnala joint us here. Uh, 0:03:50.600 --> 0:03:53.440 but being there and the exposure of that this is 0:03:53.440 --> 0:03:57.000 where the Cowboys train. It helped get enough recruits that 0:03:57.120 --> 0:03:59.680 now I think it started in two thousand and one, 0:04:00.120 --> 0:04:03.880 but now they have won. They've had sixteen straight winning seasons. 0:04:03.920 --> 0:04:07.120 It's the laws streak of any college since stat it's 0:04:07.160 --> 0:04:10.600 two thousand and one, right as dehydration or the Cowboys. 0:04:10.640 --> 0:04:13.280 No no college football team, whether it be junior college, 0:04:13.320 --> 0:04:16.839 small college, you know, University of Texas. Nobody in Texas 0:04:16.880 --> 0:04:18.440 has had more winning seasons in a road than in 0:04:18.520 --> 0:04:21.440 Western State. What happened right there, you know, because of 0:04:21.480 --> 0:04:24.200 the facilities approved and all that. The cowboy Boys help 0:04:24.279 --> 0:04:26.880 some money in there, they certainly did well. We sacrificed 0:04:27.320 --> 0:04:30.240 for that's good. Sorry, we sacrificed you. We're talking about 0:04:30.279 --> 0:04:36.960 practicing indoors, sacrificed us Mickey, how you guys doing? Welcome back? See? Yeah, 0:04:37.000 --> 0:04:42.680 I think this week is gone. Practice woice yesterday? Was 0:04:42.720 --> 0:04:44.680 it yesterday or the day before they got off to 0:04:44.720 --> 0:04:47.520 the slow start? No, it was yesterday when they took 0:04:47.520 --> 0:04:50.760 the pads off right and put the shells on, and 0:04:50.800 --> 0:04:53.120 he had to throw the first team off and then 0:04:53.120 --> 0:04:54.800 he had to throw the second team off and bring 0:04:54.800 --> 0:04:57.040 the first team back on to start practice. I think 0:04:57.520 --> 0:05:01.040 you take your foot off the accelerator and the guys 0:05:01.120 --> 0:05:03.720 take their foot off their accelerator. But other than that, 0:05:03.800 --> 0:05:06.400 I think it's been fine. I'm sure they would have 0:05:06.440 --> 0:05:09.760 liked more space for some of the stuff, but yeah, 0:05:09.800 --> 0:05:12.080 the practice is indoors, and I think the people kind 0:05:12.080 --> 0:05:14.520 of juiced, kind of juiced it up a little bit. Yeah. 0:05:14.560 --> 0:05:16.800 I thought, yes, it was the first bad practice they had, 0:05:16.800 --> 0:05:21.080 and just overall because that's like you say, with with Garrett, 0:05:21.120 --> 0:05:23.360 he's done a good job. I think, at least from 0:05:23.400 --> 0:05:26.480 a scouting perspective, being able to evaluate practice. You go 0:05:26.520 --> 0:05:29.040 out there and watch two plus hours of practice, you 0:05:29.120 --> 0:05:32.080 walk out there you're like, Okay, this happened, and this happened, 0:05:32.080 --> 0:05:34.359 and this happened yesterday Mickey's right. When you when you 0:05:34.440 --> 0:05:37.400 open with the thought of an off side, a snap 0:05:37.480 --> 0:05:40.400 early a fumble, you know that that was that was 0:05:40.400 --> 0:05:43.200 a sloppy way to get after it. Yesterday. Yeah, and 0:05:43.240 --> 0:05:48.960 then the day before they gave him the evening off, right, well, 0:05:49.080 --> 0:05:52.119 the day before they gave a bunch of the veterans off, 0:05:52.279 --> 0:05:55.120 and I thought that reduced the efficiency of the of 0:05:55.160 --> 0:05:57.599 the offense. But the defense had a good day, but 0:05:57.640 --> 0:06:03.000 the offense struggled, right, So yeah, they Um, I don't know. 0:06:03.080 --> 0:06:06.880 You change venues like that, change atmospheres, and maybe it 0:06:06.920 --> 0:06:09.800 was a little too cushy m because we were just 0:06:09.800 --> 0:06:13.359 talking about the perils of Austin and wichitall falls. Oh well, 0:06:13.400 --> 0:06:17.760 from a physical standpoint, it's great, right, I mean it's 0:06:17.880 --> 0:06:20.599 might I mean ox Neyard, it was Oxnyard without sun 0:06:20.760 --> 0:06:24.400 absolutely a big deal, all right, can't it's got the 0:06:24.440 --> 0:06:26.480 phone number, I think for us over there. We've we've 0:06:26.560 --> 0:06:28.200 changed the number a couple of times. Did you have 0:06:28.279 --> 0:06:31.640 that number right off the top? Do you want to 0:06:31.680 --> 0:06:34.760 give it? Share it? It's two and four eight seven 0:06:34.800 --> 0:06:37.760 two twenty one O two all right, two and four 0:06:37.839 --> 0:06:39.920 eight seven two twenty one on two. All right, we've changed. 0:06:39.960 --> 0:06:42.040 You're just gonna make us like Kruskin like, yeah, try 0:06:42.040 --> 0:06:44.400 and mine read I had the two one four, Yeah, 0:06:44.440 --> 0:06:46.520 I was gonna. I'm just good to that point, all right, 0:06:46.880 --> 0:06:48.840 one four, eight seven two twenty one two. Give us 0:06:48.839 --> 0:06:51.640 a call, we'll talk. Uh. And also, Brian's got a 0:06:51.640 --> 0:06:53.480 game for us. I do play out of the box 0:06:53.520 --> 0:06:56.839 here later on. Ye, I'm ready for that at bit. 0:06:56.839 --> 0:06:58.520 It's a little bit out of the box, Mickey. I 0:06:58.520 --> 0:07:00.560 mean it's not I'm not asking you to the ball. 0:07:00.600 --> 0:07:03.120 I'm just out of the box. Let's talk a little 0:07:03.120 --> 0:07:05.080 bit about some of some of the news, if you 0:07:05.080 --> 0:07:07.279 want to call it that. If anyone wants to share 0:07:07.360 --> 0:07:12.320 anything about their opinions on Dez Bryant giving his opinions yesterday, 0:07:12.320 --> 0:07:14.480 this whole thing is kind of blown up, I don't know, 0:07:14.560 --> 0:07:18.440 for no reason really, um, but breaking news. He's still 0:07:18.920 --> 0:07:22.040 gonna stand at the national anthem, shocking. Yes, this hand 0:07:22.080 --> 0:07:24.160 over his heart I think so, yeah, next to the 0:07:24.200 --> 0:07:28.520 head coach. Right, so, um, nothing new has really happened there. 0:07:28.640 --> 0:07:30.800 He tried to have some fun on social media about 0:07:30.800 --> 0:07:33.320 a pizza place and and and it's kind of taken 0:07:33.520 --> 0:07:35.560 on a life of its own for no reason. And 0:07:35.760 --> 0:07:38.200 that's my opinion. He might have anything to share on Dez. 0:07:38.320 --> 0:07:41.400 Who is that woman Jamal Hill? Bill Hill? Who is 0:07:41.440 --> 0:07:45.440 that ESPN? She works? She's an anchor on their six o'clock. 0:07:46.000 --> 0:07:48.240 So why is she? Why is she trying? No one 0:07:48.320 --> 0:07:53.880 knows who she is? Why is she trolling on? Does Bryant? 0:07:55.320 --> 0:07:58.080 Are you well? So after she's an African American? Go 0:07:58.120 --> 0:08:00.280 out on it? You ever, you've never seen her? I 0:08:00.320 --> 0:08:03.520 saw her picture, Okay. She ESPN has made her a 0:08:03.560 --> 0:08:07.400 prominent person on their she six o'clock. Okay, So what 0:08:07.520 --> 0:08:08.920 is she? What is she trying to do? She's not 0:08:08.960 --> 0:08:13.440 on like minight trying to do I think she's trying 0:08:13.480 --> 0:08:16.440 to jump into a story. Yeah, she's trying to do something. 0:08:16.480 --> 0:08:18.800 You're right, Mickey. She's trying to do something that as 0:08:18.800 --> 0:08:21.720 an American, you should never do. And that's tell somebody 0:08:21.720 --> 0:08:24.800 else how to do their business. That's that's the unfortunate 0:08:24.840 --> 0:08:28.440 thing here to me. Don't don't tell me that the 0:08:28.520 --> 0:08:32.800 rights I have. Don't tell me how to put out 0:08:32.800 --> 0:08:35.960 my exhibit. My rights. Yeah, that's that's why I have rights. 0:08:36.000 --> 0:08:38.240 Go out on the street and find just ten people, 0:08:39.120 --> 0:08:42.200 all ten gonna know who does Brian is maybe four 0:08:42.400 --> 0:08:44.680 know who she is. Focus on the real story though, 0:08:44.760 --> 0:08:47.280 So no, the real story is she's trying to make 0:08:47.280 --> 0:08:49.440 a name for herself. I don't think so well I do. 0:08:49.559 --> 0:08:52.599 I don't. Well, I agree with brought us in a 0:08:52.679 --> 0:08:57.120 sense that you know, it bothers me because I'm hearing 0:08:57.160 --> 0:09:00.880 guys all just I'm not gonna take a shout at 0:09:00.920 --> 0:09:04.880 you for your opinion. You either, you on the shoa 0:09:05.160 --> 0:09:09.640 so seriously about people's opinion. Yeah, so I don't the 0:09:09.760 --> 0:09:15.079 Twitter followers I have, I don't never respond because when 0:09:15.120 --> 0:09:17.319 you go to saying, hey, this ain't right. What you're 0:09:17.320 --> 0:09:20.160 saying ain't smart that you know, I'm not getting into 0:09:20.160 --> 0:09:23.439 an argument about if you honestly think what you think 0:09:23.920 --> 0:09:26.679 and like you say, we have that right. Yeah, what's 0:09:26.760 --> 0:09:29.240 what's the issue here? Yeah, don't tell me how to 0:09:29.679 --> 0:09:32.600 I can't. Yeah, that's where I think your issue not 0:09:32.679 --> 0:09:35.160 who she is. Well, I still think she's trying to 0:09:35.200 --> 0:09:37.560 make a name for herself, and she's got a name. 0:09:37.800 --> 0:09:41.320 She's obviously on a national program Nightly Mickey. Yeah, yeah, 0:09:41.480 --> 0:09:43.319 got a name. But but you know, I still think 0:09:43.360 --> 0:09:44.920 that they try to throw that in there. What I 0:09:44.920 --> 0:09:47.560 didn't like is the fact that she said, oh, oh, 0:09:47.640 --> 0:09:50.600 you'll take a stand here, but not never mind, and 0:09:50.640 --> 0:09:52.520 then came back and said she was joking like yeah, 0:09:52.640 --> 0:09:55.559 like that that's wrong. Yeah I didn't. I didn't like that. 0:09:55.600 --> 0:09:58.120 But it's it's kind of you know, it's it's kind 0:09:58.120 --> 0:09:59.880 of been blown out of proportion. As I said on 0:10:00.080 --> 0:10:03.840 yesterday's show, that I don't feel like, you know, these players, 0:10:03.840 --> 0:10:06.760 whether you kneel or you don't, these players might have 0:10:06.800 --> 0:10:08.720 an opinion one way or another about the way our 0:10:08.720 --> 0:10:11.280 country is run. Absolutely, that doesn't mean that they're that 0:10:11.400 --> 0:10:13.800 they you know, just by standing don't care that they 0:10:13.840 --> 0:10:16.319 don't care, right and then and then they're okay with 0:10:16.360 --> 0:10:19.840 everything that's happening. You know, standing and kneeling for our country. 0:10:19.960 --> 0:10:21.800 It means a lot more than whether or not I 0:10:21.800 --> 0:10:23.880 approve of the president or not. This is this is 0:10:23.880 --> 0:10:26.320 an opportunity that we have, and I think I've had 0:10:26.360 --> 0:10:29.720 I've had people in the military tweet at me. And 0:10:29.720 --> 0:10:32.800 that's that's really our new way of talking to fans. 0:10:33.120 --> 0:10:35.240 That's our new way other than like Mickey going along 0:10:35.240 --> 0:10:38.120 the rail at Oxnard and saying hello to fans, which 0:10:38.120 --> 0:10:40.080 he always does, I think we all do that. We 0:10:40.120 --> 0:10:43.319 all acknowledge the fans wave to him, but now twitters 0:10:43.320 --> 0:10:45.760 are a way to communicate with fans, and I know 0:10:45.800 --> 0:10:49.839 the military folks that follow me in particular. You know, 0:10:49.880 --> 0:10:53.080 I've made a comment about Kaepernick, and to a person, 0:10:53.800 --> 0:10:57.200 men and women have said, hey, I fought for their 0:10:57.320 --> 0:11:00.040 right to do what they're doing, you know, and I 0:10:59.840 --> 0:11:02.920 I appreciate that. I really really do. And I agree 0:11:02.920 --> 0:11:05.600 with Nate. I think that I'm not one to tread 0:11:05.640 --> 0:11:08.080 on someone else's opinion on this show. We have a 0:11:08.120 --> 0:11:10.520 form when we go back and forth and discuss, and 0:11:10.600 --> 0:11:12.679 that's good. But I'm not going to sit there and 0:11:12.679 --> 0:11:15.600 try and force my way of thinking on you. Yeah, 0:11:15.679 --> 0:11:18.840 that's not That's not the way this country was form. 0:11:18.960 --> 0:11:21.720 That's why we have the freedoms we do. If people 0:11:22.120 --> 0:11:25.200 would just take a moment and listen to what Dez 0:11:25.320 --> 0:11:32.320 said yesterday, absolutely and almost eloquently expressing himself, and to 0:11:32.360 --> 0:11:35.480 think where he was in twenty ten. We talked about 0:11:35.640 --> 0:11:40.200 he was absolutely twenty seventeen. And you know, I don't 0:11:40.360 --> 0:11:43.120 get too close to the players, right. I wanted to 0:11:43.160 --> 0:11:45.679 reach out and hug him. Yeah, I was like, man, 0:11:46.080 --> 0:11:49.040 look how far you've come. No doubt he wasn't mad. 0:11:49.480 --> 0:11:53.520 He kept his emotions in check, and he expressed what 0:11:53.600 --> 0:11:56.040 he felt from his heart. And I thought he did 0:11:56.080 --> 0:12:00.360 it so well and it should be required listening because 0:12:00.600 --> 0:12:02.920 if you read it, it doesn't have the same effect 0:12:03.000 --> 0:12:05.760 if you hear it. And to see where he came 0:12:05.840 --> 0:12:09.640 from and the point he pointed out about, Hey, nothing 0:12:09.679 --> 0:12:11.920 against my mom and dad, but when I grew up, 0:12:12.200 --> 0:12:14.760 I wasn't taught right and wrong from them. I had 0:12:14.800 --> 0:12:16.800 to learn, and a lot of it I learned by 0:12:17.000 --> 0:12:20.120 trial and error, and there were errors. But he's come 0:12:20.240 --> 0:12:23.160 so far and and and for her to have the 0:12:23.280 --> 0:12:26.320 nerve to tell him, and basically he was telling him, 0:12:27.120 --> 0:12:29.400 you got to feel this way because you're a black man. 0:12:30.080 --> 0:12:32.040 That's what she's saying. That's what I'm gonna say it. 0:12:32.120 --> 0:12:34.560 That's no, that's exactly what and that ain't right. No, 0:12:34.720 --> 0:12:37.680 and that's and that's she shouldn't that that's a bad 0:12:37.800 --> 0:12:41.360 use of her platform, you know, to to go after 0:12:41.480 --> 0:12:44.040 Dez Bryant that way. She doesn't know Dez Bryant like 0:12:44.160 --> 0:12:47.959 we know Dez Bryant does. Bryant is a very conscious 0:12:48.080 --> 0:12:50.839 individual when it comes to what he believes. I mean, 0:12:50.880 --> 0:12:54.000 he's a guy that really wears his emotions on his sleeve, 0:12:54.040 --> 0:12:56.679 if you want to be honest about it. But Mickey's 0:12:56.760 --> 0:13:00.240 right where he came from, Holy smokes Ut on the 0:12:59.800 --> 0:13:02.400 back there, you know, real quick here about I was 0:13:02.440 --> 0:13:04.600 gonna mention this later on in the show, but because 0:13:04.640 --> 0:13:08.520 we are talking about Dez Bryant, if this weekend, if 0:13:08.559 --> 0:13:11.320 you get a chance to check out than the next 0:13:12.160 --> 0:13:16.120 Deep Blue, it's called Randy, Michael and Joey the Domino Effect. 0:13:17.080 --> 0:13:19.640 And I think you're really gonna enjoy this one, or 0:13:19.640 --> 0:13:22.679 maybe maybe you're it's gonna make you sick, actually, but 0:13:22.760 --> 0:13:27.200 it's it's about the Cowboys decision of not drafting Randy Moss, 0:13:27.480 --> 0:13:30.320 what happened later on with Michael Irvin getting hurt, then 0:13:30.480 --> 0:13:33.560 having to to go get Joey Galloway, and then what 0:13:33.679 --> 0:13:36.319 happened and kind of how it's snowballed from there. And 0:13:36.640 --> 0:13:38.640 I think it does have it happy ending. I haven't 0:13:38.640 --> 0:13:41.679 seen it, but but the fact of that Dez Bryant, 0:13:42.120 --> 0:13:45.480 you know, they didn't make a mistake. Again, they didn't 0:13:45.520 --> 0:13:47.959 take the risk to go get Randy Moss. But when 0:13:48.040 --> 0:13:51.440 Dez Bryant was sitting there, whether it be twelve years later, 0:13:51.840 --> 0:13:55.040 they said, you know, a different circumstances, but still we're 0:13:55.040 --> 0:13:57.120 gonna go out and dynamically trying to get this guy, 0:13:57.600 --> 0:14:00.280 and we're gonna, you know, put him in our family, 0:14:00.400 --> 0:14:02.440 put our arms around him, and he's gonna get he's 0:14:02.440 --> 0:14:04.160 gonna get better, he's gonna be our guy. And I 0:14:04.200 --> 0:14:07.360 think that that's sort of what happened there. Yeah, if 0:14:07.400 --> 0:14:09.959 you guys were both interviewed for it. I took a while, 0:14:10.240 --> 0:14:13.120 but Dez got there. And I remember when Michael Irvin 0:14:13.200 --> 0:14:15.400 told me when they drafted him. He said, you know, 0:14:15.480 --> 0:14:19.640 this kid is getting criticized for what he's gone through. 0:14:19.760 --> 0:14:23.600 He said he ought to be hugged and patted on 0:14:23.640 --> 0:14:26.640 the back for being where he is today, meeting he 0:14:26.720 --> 0:14:30.200 got drafted by somebody because Michael's point was people that 0:14:30.280 --> 0:14:33.760 grew up like Dez are either in prison, jail, or 0:14:33.800 --> 0:14:38.000 they're dead. Yes, uh yeah, I'll say it again. He's 0:14:38.040 --> 0:14:42.520 come a long way. Nate the player eighty eight, the 0:14:42.640 --> 0:14:45.040 guy that's I've been out here running routes, catching balls. 0:14:45.440 --> 0:14:47.680 He seems like he's taking his game to another level 0:14:47.680 --> 0:14:50.520 though in my opinion, from what I've seen here. The 0:14:50.640 --> 0:14:53.560 last I would say, week of training camp in Oxnard 0:14:53.560 --> 0:14:56.000 and then maybe something this week as well. You think 0:14:56.000 --> 0:14:59.640 he's ready to go. My my issue always has been 0:14:59.680 --> 0:15:02.800 withd A is for as a player, and that's what 0:15:03.040 --> 0:15:04.600 That's how I look at it. That's why I'm not 0:15:04.680 --> 0:15:07.840 come in a lot on it on this outside garbage. Sure, 0:15:08.400 --> 0:15:11.800 uh and man and brought was talking about the death 0:15:11.840 --> 0:15:13.920 is that he ran a curl route two days agoing 0:15:13.920 --> 0:15:16.960 out and brought us a nice curl rots. He's running routes, yeah, 0:15:17.280 --> 0:15:19.200 making hear me talk about the movies on it. I say, 0:15:19.240 --> 0:15:23.400 when dead, yeah, really hits it. When the light goes off, 0:15:23.440 --> 0:15:26.640 he'll start caring about his routes. He'll start caring about coverage, 0:15:26.640 --> 0:15:30.600 and he'll quit worrying about I'm wide open, Yeah, He'll 0:15:31.040 --> 0:15:34.200 he'll start worrying about clearing out, going underneath, helping his 0:15:34.320 --> 0:15:37.160 teammates and boom boom boom, and you starting to see 0:15:37.240 --> 0:15:39.520 him grow in that way. More than that than just 0:15:39.560 --> 0:15:42.480 the routes. I think he's been He's talked about it 0:15:42.520 --> 0:15:45.480 a couple of times this offseason, about eating better, I 0:15:45.520 --> 0:15:47.200 mean just just things like that. He said he used 0:15:47.240 --> 0:15:49.800 to go and he'd eat it fast food, two o'clock 0:15:49.800 --> 0:15:51.800 in the morning, whatever, I mean, he's really working on 0:15:51.880 --> 0:15:55.040 that part of his leaning. You see his leaning, so 0:15:55.400 --> 0:16:01.240 his veins are popping out. Yeah, he's leaning. That's you know, 0:16:01.320 --> 0:16:05.040 I'm so tired of what's happening out the field. I 0:16:05.120 --> 0:16:08.000 almost want to give the Jason Garrett I'm coaching who's 0:16:08.040 --> 0:16:10.640 on the field. I'm talking about who's own the field, 0:16:10.680 --> 0:16:14.800 because the way our world is set up today, it's 0:16:14.920 --> 0:16:17.600 always going to be something going on outside of what 0:16:17.680 --> 0:16:19.960 we do. And I'm gonna I'm gonna stay in there 0:16:20.800 --> 0:16:23.240 until we play the game outside the box. I'm staying 0:16:23.280 --> 0:16:25.880 inside the box, you know, staying in the zone. Yeah. 0:16:25.920 --> 0:16:29.200 I'll tell you this though, if if for fact that 0:16:29.240 --> 0:16:33.640 Ezekiel Elliott has to sit six games, you better ride 0:16:33.680 --> 0:16:36.320 that racehorse. You better find a way. They're gonna have 0:16:36.320 --> 0:16:38.480 to find a way to run the football and be 0:16:38.600 --> 0:16:41.040 productive doing it, because but you're taking a big part 0:16:41.040 --> 0:16:42.920 of your offense out of there. But I think the 0:16:42.960 --> 0:16:44.800 one thing that Dez Bryant, when you talk to him, 0:16:44.800 --> 0:16:47.280 he understands his team likes to run the football that 0:16:47.320 --> 0:16:49.520 he's on. He's not going to ever have the numbers 0:16:49.520 --> 0:16:52.160 that Julio Jones and some of these other receivers has. 0:16:52.520 --> 0:16:55.600 He's about winning, and so if they in fact have 0:16:55.720 --> 0:16:58.600 to go that route, I think that for everything that 0:16:58.640 --> 0:17:01.000 we're talking about right now, he prepared to do that. 0:17:01.240 --> 0:17:03.560 He's prepared to take this team and all of a 0:17:03.600 --> 0:17:05.639 sudden take a young quarterback with him and say just 0:17:05.720 --> 0:17:08.240 keep throwing me the ball. You talk about his health, 0:17:08.560 --> 0:17:12.119 you talk about his mental makeup, you talk about his 0:17:12.160 --> 0:17:15.480 willingness to do whatever it takes to win games. I'm 0:17:15.480 --> 0:17:17.800 willing to bet that it will be fine with him 0:17:17.840 --> 0:17:20.159 if Zeke has to sit, Go ahead and load the 0:17:20.160 --> 0:17:22.439 wagon up on eighty eight and see what happens. You 0:17:22.520 --> 0:17:25.159 say Zeke has to sit. Jason Garrett said yesterday that 0:17:25.160 --> 0:17:28.720 he expects Elliott to play game in the dress rehearsal 0:17:28.800 --> 0:17:31.600 game against the Raiders Saturday night. That would be tomorrow night. 0:17:31.640 --> 0:17:34.600 I guess no. Week's all jacked up. He's keep track 0:17:34.720 --> 0:17:37.399 of the days. Yeah, he's gonna play. Jalen Smith is 0:17:37.400 --> 0:17:39.679 expected to play. So you know this, this will be 0:17:39.720 --> 0:17:42.600 the best chance to see this team against the good 0:17:42.600 --> 0:17:45.720 football team and the Raiders. It'll be that their dress 0:17:45.760 --> 0:17:48.000 rehearsal as well, So this will probably be the best 0:17:48.080 --> 0:17:50.800 chance for a couple of quarters at least to see, 0:17:50.840 --> 0:17:53.080 you know, good football with two good teams with a 0:17:53.119 --> 0:17:55.199 lot of star players. I'm anxious to see how the 0:17:55.200 --> 0:17:59.360 Cowboys defense plays against this offense. Physical offensive line, heck, 0:17:59.400 --> 0:18:02.800 they go against that every day in practice, physical running game. 0:18:02.880 --> 0:18:05.920 But really a good young quarterback, you know, another number 0:18:05.960 --> 0:18:08.040 four if you want to say that, they have to 0:18:08.080 --> 0:18:11.160 deal with the receivers on the outside, quality, better cover, 0:18:11.640 --> 0:18:14.520 They make quick throws, ball gets up the fields. So yeah, 0:18:14.680 --> 0:18:17.439 if they're if they're not mindsets not right, even in 0:18:17.480 --> 0:18:20.919 the preseason game, even for a couple of series, you know, 0:18:21.240 --> 0:18:23.520 the Raiders will find a way to embarrass you offensively, 0:18:23.760 --> 0:18:26.760 So you better figure that out real quick to play. 0:18:27.920 --> 0:18:30.199 He's one of those guys that he's been practicing like 0:18:30.280 --> 0:18:32.720 he's gonna play, and I would I would think that, 0:18:32.840 --> 0:18:34.840 you know, he got some action last week, so I'm 0:18:34.880 --> 0:18:36.920 thinking that, Yeah, I think that we'll probably see him 0:18:36.920 --> 0:18:39.919 again this week because he and they've been kind of 0:18:39.960 --> 0:18:44.120 regulating him and Mayo also, all right, he got into 0:18:44.160 --> 0:18:47.399 practice yesterday, right, and you know, Nate and I have 0:18:47.440 --> 0:18:49.840 talked about this that it'll still be a good test 0:18:49.920 --> 0:18:53.520 for those those those defensive ends, right, they can do 0:18:53.640 --> 0:18:56.480 you know what and and just a little bit deeper 0:18:57.320 --> 0:19:01.600 let him play. David Irvan love you to death. See 0:19:01.600 --> 0:19:05.439 you when I see you, Demontrey, see you when I 0:19:05.480 --> 0:19:08.960 see you. But I want to see guys play that 0:19:09.080 --> 0:19:12.400 gonna have a chance to play in the first game 0:19:12.440 --> 0:19:15.639 against New York, it's so yeah, I want to I 0:19:15.640 --> 0:19:19.159 want to see Charlton get three quarters. I want to 0:19:19.160 --> 0:19:22.040 see it. Man. I want to see uh, the other 0:19:22.080 --> 0:19:24.960 little backup defensive in the fifty six Lenny, I want 0:19:25.240 --> 0:19:27.560 to see. Yeah, I want to see Lewis. I want 0:19:27.560 --> 0:19:31.400 to see them play to see if they can play. So, 0:19:31.520 --> 0:19:34.080 you know, and and I know coaches got to do 0:19:34.119 --> 0:19:37.080 what they feel is best for that team. But it's 0:19:37.119 --> 0:19:39.280 two guys. We know it's not gonna be there. Maybe 0:19:39.320 --> 0:19:43.400 a third with with with with Wilson dam maybe Uh. 0:19:43.560 --> 0:19:46.000 Let's some magic is being worked that we don't know about. 0:19:46.080 --> 0:19:48.879 But let's see the guys play. And where are we 0:19:48.960 --> 0:19:51.639 at with the defensive backs? Where are we at? See, 0:19:52.160 --> 0:19:55.800 here's the balancing act they have. On one hand, you 0:19:55.880 --> 0:19:59.040 gotta get the guys ready to play, but on the 0:19:59.040 --> 0:20:01.720 other hand, you still got to find out about some 0:20:01.800 --> 0:20:04.359 guys if they can play, yes, and how well they 0:20:04.400 --> 0:20:07.000 can play because if you look at the secondary right now, 0:20:07.359 --> 0:20:09.760 you got your top three guys. Now with Anthony Brown 0:20:09.840 --> 0:20:13.920 back out there, who's next. Yes, that's where it comes 0:20:13.920 --> 0:20:16.840 down to it, because the next guy up was Leon McFadden. Right, 0:20:16.840 --> 0:20:19.200 he's out, He's out. So now we're down to Duke, Thomas, 0:20:19.240 --> 0:20:24.480 Sammy Seemster. I don't know, is there anybody? Yeah, yeah, 0:20:24.520 --> 0:20:26.800 but he has I'm saying about And to Nate's point, 0:20:27.560 --> 0:20:31.480 I'm okay with seeing Duke and White out there playing 0:20:31.480 --> 0:20:33.679 the whole time. I mean, in the second I need 0:20:33.760 --> 0:20:35.520