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Speaker 1: think we're hanging with the Talking Cowboys Break here as

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Speaker 1: we're adding another show in here. Everyone's represented. Nate Newton

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Speaker 1: joins us from Hanging with the Boys, our favorite show.

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Speaker 1: Brian brought us, formerly of the Break and formerly of

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Speaker 1: Talking Cowboys, trading around like an old pair of socks.

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Speaker 1: I'm Nick Eatman and Mickey Spengola will be joining us

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Speaker 1: here in a little bit. We're gonna kind of finished

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Speaker 1: this week off here. It's been a good week of

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Speaker 1: practice at the start the Cowboys is the first time

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Speaker 1: they've practiced here at Frisco. Uh fans got a chance

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Speaker 1: to come out, and the Dallas Fort Worth chance to

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Speaker 1: come out. I'm sure all of us have got a

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Speaker 1: chance to shake hands with people as we walk through,

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Speaker 1: and absolutely people that you know, It's it's kind of

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Speaker 1: weird when you think about it. California gets to see

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Speaker 1: these cowboys a lot. It's been They've been Austin, which

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Speaker 1: all falls thankfully, but um but here in Dallas. You know,

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Speaker 1: training camp in Dallas is not a new thing. But

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Speaker 1: I think it's gone pretty well. Practicing inside you would say, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, we we were all part of the Wichita

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Speaker 1: Falls experiment. You know we were. But let me talk

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Speaker 1: about that real quick, you know. And Nick brought up

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Speaker 1: a point about practicing indoors. You you'd love that back

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Speaker 1: in the day after doing with Austin, Wichita Falls, all

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Speaker 1: those places that you know, the way you guys practice,

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Speaker 1: you're different type of player too. Yeah, yeah, we uh

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Speaker 1: we had to go ahead it hard two days for

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Speaker 1: a minimum maybe ten days, and that was straight yeah,

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Speaker 1: two day practices every day, So you would we would

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Speaker 1: have loved especially when we to Wichita Falls. Oh my gosh.

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Speaker 1: You know, we could bear a little bit better at

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Speaker 1: saying it was in Austin, but wow, I mean, it

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Speaker 1: wasn't only a long walk out to practice. It was

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Speaker 1: a long walk away from practice. It was a long

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Speaker 1: walk back to the day. It's like nothing was right

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Speaker 1: and the heat one hundred and ten degrees when nothing

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Speaker 1: was right about that place. Hold on, hold on, that's

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Speaker 1: a school. He's gonna fight you going to school. But

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Speaker 1: I mean I have none against the educational part. None

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Speaker 1: against there you go, the academic part of this school.

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Speaker 1: But I'm talking about logistically, it was. Yeah, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: admit some I didn't help you with teammates. I didn't

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Speaker 1: do a very good job of getting your teammates for

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Speaker 1: what you were used to playing with. Did that take

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Speaker 1: something otter that team? Did that practice takes Yes, because

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Speaker 1: you guys took advantage of the heat in Austin had

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Speaker 1: better teammates. Nah, but no, brother, No, when you when

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Speaker 1: you in a hundred degree weather with with the index

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Speaker 1: one hundred and ten, sure it does not work. You

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Speaker 1: can take you can take uh the youngest, strongest, most

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Speaker 1: certain attitude of things oxygen mast all. Yeah, it's like

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Speaker 1: when we used to go right in the training room

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Speaker 1: just just fall out. I remember that, Remember Nick, Remember

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Speaker 1: walking into that fieldhouse to Colis Cumare and there were

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Speaker 1: it's trying to go to lunch, like, hey man, just

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Speaker 1: feed me IV Yeah, And I tell you can I

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Speaker 1: probably don't even know that football team out there because

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Speaker 1: I was a student at Midwestern State right there, and

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Speaker 1: that that's how I got hooked up here. But there

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Speaker 1: were a bad football team. They were making a transition

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Speaker 1: from NAI school to Division two and one, two to

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Speaker 1: but being there and the exposure of that this is

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Speaker 1: where the Cowboys train. It helped get enough recruits that

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Speaker 1: now I think it started in two thousand and one,

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Speaker 1: but now they have won. They've had sixteen straight winning seasons.

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Speaker 1: No no college football team, whether it be junior college,

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Speaker 1: Western State. What happened right there, you know, because of

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Speaker 1: practicing indoors, sacrificed us Mickey, how you guys doing? Welcome back? See? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think this week is gone. Practice woice yesterday? Was

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Speaker 1: I think it's been fine. I'm sure they would have

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Speaker 1: the practice is indoors, and I think the people kind

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Speaker 1: and this happened yesterday Mickey's right. When you when you

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Speaker 1: a sloppy way to get after it. Yesterday. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: then the day before they gave him the evening off, right, well,

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Speaker 1: It's a little bit out of the box, Mickey. I

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Speaker 1: mean it's not I'm not asking you to the ball.

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Speaker 1: this whole thing is kind of blown up, I don't know,

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Speaker 1: for no reason really, um, but breaking news. He's still

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Speaker 1: gonna stand at the national anthem, shocking. Yes, this hand

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Speaker 1: He tried to have some fun on social media about

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Speaker 1: that's my opinion. He might have anything to share on Dez.

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Speaker 1: Who is that woman Jamal Hill? Bill Hill? Who is

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Speaker 1: So why is she? Why is she trying? No one

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Speaker 1: knows who she is? Why is she trolling on? Does Bryant?

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Speaker 1: Are you well? So after she's an African American? Go

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Speaker 1: You're right, Mickey. She's trying to do something that as

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Speaker 1: an American, you should never do. And that's tell somebody

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Speaker 1: else how to do their business. That's that's the unfortunate

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Speaker 1: I can't. Yeah, that's where I think your issue not

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Speaker 1: She's obviously on a national program Nightly Mickey. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: But it's it's kind of you know, it's it's kind

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Speaker 1: whether you kneel or you don't, these players might have

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Speaker 1: approve of the president or not. This is this is

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Speaker 1: an opportunity that we have, and I think I've had

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Speaker 1: I've had people in the military tweet at me. And

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Speaker 1: that's that's really our new way of talking to fans.

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Speaker 1: That's our new way other than like Mickey going along

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Speaker 1: all acknowledge the fans wave to him, but now twitters

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Speaker 1: the military folks that follow me in particular. You know,

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Speaker 1: Salt Lake City. Hey, guys, how are you doing today?

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Speaker 1: I just have a I have a comment, and I

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Speaker 1: mean to me, you have Jason Garrett, who was an

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Speaker 1: ex quarterback. You know, he got Lenahan. That's pretty good

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Speaker 1: at I'm guessing coach to coaching these quarterbacks up, how

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Speaker 1: important really is it to have it there? If you

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Speaker 1: it last year with Dak And I'm just wondering about

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Speaker 1: that how important it really is? And my comment basically

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Speaker 1: up for his rights. I just believe that his platform

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Speaker 1: I was in the Marine Corps for four years, and

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Speaker 1: you know, I didn't fight for people's rights to be

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Speaker 1: being shot on the middle of the street. But I

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Speaker 1: also didn't do it for people being protests of that

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Speaker 1: national anthem. I mean, that's I just wanted to get

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Speaker 1: your thoughts. I'm really frustrated. I'm having a hard time

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Speaker 1: getting my thoughts together, but I just wanted to hear

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Speaker 1: his comments about it. Thank you. Okay, let me get

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Speaker 1: the first part of it. I think you kind of

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Speaker 1: forgot another big part there. Wade Wilson played in the

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Speaker 1: league for forty four years and he's been around a while,

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Speaker 1: so that's another one. I do think it matters, though,

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Speaker 1: I yeah, I think that when they come off the field.

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Speaker 1: they be okay if it's just Dak and Cooper Rush.

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Speaker 1: Here's where it matters. If he has to play, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's not going to practice. Gets half a dozen snaps

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Speaker 1: a week and then it's like, okay, go save the day. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's when the experience matters under center. Think about that.

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Speaker 1: Washington tried it a few years ago with Griffin as

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Speaker 1: the starter. I think Kirk Cousins was the backup. There

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Speaker 1: might have been a veteran in there. I'm not really sure.

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Speaker 1: I know they drafted Kirk Cousins, but I don't know

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Speaker 1: if there was another one. But that's a good point.

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Speaker 1: I mean, these veteran guys know how to get themselves

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Speaker 1: ready despite not having that. They understand mental reps. But

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Speaker 1: the guy from you know, played in the MAC you know,

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Speaker 1: and wasn't even drafted. Yeah. See, I remember I was

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Speaker 1: part of a team that struggled with this one time

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Speaker 1: because we did it with Farv, Burnell and Detmer. We

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Speaker 1: had all three were really young quarterbacks, not not many

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Speaker 1: starts with those guys, and Mike Holmgren just said, let's

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Speaker 1: if we don't, you know, I don't need And Mike

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Speaker 1: guys like that, you know, guys trying to fill in

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Speaker 1: Elvis gerback and you know people like that. But he said,

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Speaker 1: let's just do it. Let's just you know, let's if

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Speaker 1: we don't find a quarterback that's any better, let's just

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Speaker 1: go with these young guys and see what happened. So

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Speaker 1: personal departments do struggle with this all the time. They

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Speaker 1: struggle with you know, can we go with it? You

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Speaker 1: feel good about your starter, you feel good about his health.

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Speaker 1: You know, you never know, but Mickey's absolutely right. You

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Speaker 1: don't want to. You don't want to dance with that. Uh,

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Speaker 1: you don't want to dance with that problem until you

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Speaker 1: absolutely have to. But you also want to be prepared

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Speaker 1: if something does happen. And Kellen Moore is one of

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Speaker 1: those rare players that if they he's a veteran guy

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Speaker 1: for SAE, but he's still eligible for the practice squad.

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Speaker 1: So if they did decide a part ways with him,

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Speaker 1: he is eligible come back and play on the practice

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Speaker 1: would want to help those young guys in the room

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Speaker 1: and not take up a spot. All right, let's play

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Speaker 1: some games, got it? Yeah, Brian, what do you got

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Speaker 1: for us? It's called out of the box. Out of

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Speaker 1: the box, here we go, and it's just going to

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Speaker 1: throw out questions. Each one of you can answer the question,

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Speaker 1: not specifically to the guy, but I want to know

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Speaker 1: I would not want to cut from this position. Well,

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Speaker 1: I'm thinking about the most difficult position to have to

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Speaker 1: make a cut from on this roster. I would not

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Speaker 1: want to have to make a cut from this position.

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Speaker 1: Meaning gets so complicated the quality of the player you

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Speaker 1: want to cut Leco Gathers, you wouldn't want to do it.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to do it nah now because he

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Speaker 1: he to me, I think he's a better than nice

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Speaker 1: wide receiver. But we got to give him time the block,

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Speaker 1: and if we cut him and he don't come back

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Speaker 1: to us, would you put him on ir Yeah, in

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Speaker 1: a heartbeat, Yeah, that's that's kind of where I would

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Speaker 1: I would go that route I put him in. But

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Speaker 1: I like what you say, because I said yesterday I

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Speaker 1: thought the tight end was really the one position I

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Speaker 1: felt the best about on this football team. To me,

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Speaker 1: my position would be wide receiver. I think Noah Brown

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Speaker 1: has done some things that you know are intriguing. I

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Speaker 1: think Andy Jones has done some things. Um, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: If you get either one of them back, maybe you could. Um,

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Speaker 1: you have to look down the road a little bit there.

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Speaker 1: You know, you've got Daz getting a little bit older,

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Speaker 1: but I mean he's still got several years with him.

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Speaker 1: Bryce is on a one year deal. Um, you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm sure you're gonna have to resign Beasley here within

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Speaker 1: a year or two. I would think so though. That

603
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Speaker 1: would be a tough position to try to just cut that,

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Speaker 1: cut that down, because you need to just go with five.

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Speaker 1: But Brown or Jones or both. It's amazing, man, h

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Speaker 1: Jones just was lighting it up and all of a

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Speaker 1: sudden get injured. Yea, and Brown the sides the fumble,

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Speaker 1: he just been he's been on fire. Yeah, he's been

609
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Speaker 1: on fire. Man. How about uh, since there's a little

610
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:23,600
Speaker 1: bit of a cloud over it, how about running back? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: You want want to put Rod Smith out on the street.

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Speaker 1: What you're talking about? That name? You know Ron Smith

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Speaker 1: played played specialty and and and and and I will

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Speaker 1: see this week. Let him run with the second team.

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Speaker 1: Let him well, we don't have a second team offensive line.

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Speaker 1: We just got first team and then some guys. So

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Speaker 1: let him let him run. That's a fair point. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Does that? Does that go for the evaluation of the

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Speaker 1: backup quarterback too? By the way, me on the backup

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Speaker 1: quarterback ground, No, I mean the offensive line's inability, right

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Speaker 1: these guys that guy too. Yeah. But the thing is,

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Speaker 1: you gotta give uh rushed it the ball second. You

623
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Speaker 1: gotta give him the ball a second because if he

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Speaker 1: continue to do what he does, you know, calling Mike Holroom,

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Speaker 1: let's bike the bullet man and do I'm not about

626
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Speaker 1: if I'm gonna be in a position to to lose.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna lose with you know, and this kind of

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Speaker 1: come from Jim. I'm gonna lose with people I cant

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Speaker 1: future with yea, unless Keller Moore it is my future,

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Speaker 1: and that's just the way we have decided in our

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Speaker 1: in our locker room, then I'll go. I'll ride Keller

632
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Speaker 1: Moore is as much as the next guy. But if

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Speaker 1: that is not your decision, which I don't know, you know,

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Speaker 1: you gotta get his kid a chance, uh, and not

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Speaker 1: to fail, but to prosper because he's a game. But

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Speaker 1: he he played with four fifth and six teamers and

637
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 1: he came above them. So let's see what he can

638
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 1: do with second teamers. Next question, right, who is the

639
00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:06,240
Speaker 1: next Jeff Heath on special teams? Smith? Rod Smith on

640
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:10,360
Speaker 1: special teams? Yeah, who's the next Jeff Heath on special teams?

641
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 1: Who's that guy? I'm gonna go with Duke Thomas, bell

642
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 1: cow guy. I think he's always ben there first made

643
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 1: you wait with Duke Thomas. Yeah, I think I like

644
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 1: the way he runs down there. I think he's gonna

645
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 1: be a good gunnery. He's gotta make the team. But

646
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:27,720
Speaker 1: about Cavon Frasier, that was a good get right there.

647
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 1: Good Yeah, kind That's what I was always gonna pick

648
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 1: up a fun interception because he'd let you get in

649
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:38,720
Speaker 1: mud get you like Smith? You say, Rod Smith? Yeah,

650
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:41,120
Speaker 1: I'm rooting for this guy big time. Yes, you can

651
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 1: tell well he's on kickoff coverage. Oh yeah, Yeah, he's

652
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:46,360
Speaker 1: gonna be better. He said he will be better. He

653
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:49,840
Speaker 1: said he he's gonna be I like what I like.

654
00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 1: And Jeff Eve gonna he's Jeff Heath too though. Yeah,

655
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Speaker 1: I'm good with Mickey's answer too. I was kinda think

656
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Speaker 1: when I wrote this question, I was thinking of Cavon

657
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Speaker 1: Frasier's who I was thinking of. Okay, next question, what

658
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:05,000
Speaker 1: position would you like to see them trade a selection

659
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 1: for Oh, that's a good one election for. I mean

660
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:14,680
Speaker 1: what position would you like to see them from another

661
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:20,800
Speaker 1: team trade a pick for? Trade a player for a pick? Noe,

662
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:22,920
Speaker 1: pick give up? What are your picks? Like? You have

663
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:26,440
Speaker 1: the third round pick for somebody else's position you want

664
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:33,760
Speaker 1: to go get? Okay, I need I need a veteran

665
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:41,200
Speaker 1: back up offensive tackle. Yep, I need it too. So

666
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:42,880
Speaker 1: you're saying that, You say, if you you guys are

667
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:46,680
Speaker 1: willing to part with a pick, he said offensive tackle?

668
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 1: Tackle or guard? What do you think I'll go with tackle?

669
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:51,760
Speaker 1: Because we we we can we can get by a guard.

670
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:55,960
Speaker 1: But you know, because Chaz Green right now is both.

671
00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:59,400
Speaker 1: He's the first guy up on both. If something happened

672
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:02,040
Speaker 1: to Tyrone, let's say he is he's starting this week

673
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 1: at left guard. He's starting the left guard. Something happened

674
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:11,439
Speaker 1: to Tyrone or either my man ull he's that guy,

675
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 1: he's he's to me. Now, that's what I would do.

676
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 1: But they may want to put uh Bill Edwards out there.

677
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 1: I wouldn't. I You've seen enough of that, haven't you. Yeah,

678
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 1: But you know I'm gonna make some people happy with

679
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:30,239
Speaker 1: saying that but you're absolutely right, and and doing that

680
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 1: is not what is the uh right because now to

681
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 1: fix one, Yeah, defensive line does nothing for you there,

682
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:41,560
Speaker 1: you can really you're gonna roll with this. Yeah, I'm

683
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 1: gonna roll with you there because I don't think we've

684
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:45,520
Speaker 1: seen enough of Neil. We ain't seen enough of a

685
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:51,240
Speaker 1: lot of these young guys. You know. Uh, I understand

686
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:53,839
Speaker 1: the rotation thing and playing fast and all of that,

687
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:55,880
Speaker 1: but some of these guys gotta just suck it up

688
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 1: and short show if they want to be on this scene.

689
00:35:57,480 --> 00:35:59,800
Speaker 1: You know, I think that there's there's a spot to

690
00:35:59,880 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 1: get a defensive tack or defensive vand but maybe not

691
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:04,879
Speaker 1: to draft one because if you I mean, I'm sorry

692
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:07,799
Speaker 1: to trade a draft pick because you are getting those

693
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:12,680
Speaker 1: guys back. Um, yes, no more and Irving so whoever

694
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:14,400
Speaker 1: you know you bring in and that's only going to

695
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 1: cause a little bit more issues. I think that I

696
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 1: think Mickey's right. I think offensive tackle is is the

697
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 1: one spot where you know, it doesn't look like it's

698
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:26,799
Speaker 1: gonna get cleared up running back corner. No, you don't

699
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:29,439
Speaker 1: drafted all these guys. Think that those guys he brought

700
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:31,760
Speaker 1: up a really good he said the word veteran, which

701
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 1: is really I mean you trust I'm just asking could you?

702
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:39,879
Speaker 1: But you made that decision. Yeah, you drafted all these

703
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 1: guys and now you whether it's in training camp or

704
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:45,360
Speaker 1: whether it's slowly bringing them along doing the see, you

705
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 1: got to look at them. No, I'm with you. I'm

706
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:49,840
Speaker 1: with you. Just gotta get them healthy. Yeah, the problem

707
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:52,719
Speaker 1: is you don't know right now. Well you know what

708
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:58,440
Speaker 1: the day figure it out. I got the deep rows

709
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:01,759
Speaker 1: and some seams, but I agree with Mickey on on

710
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:06,880
Speaker 1: the offensive line. That to me, and that's when we

711
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 1: lost the kid to Denver and Freed been retired or

712
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:16,439
Speaker 1: semi retired or whatever position he's in right now. That's

713
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:19,760
Speaker 1: been my battle cry when we first found out about

714
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 1: Zeke in his six game suspension, Nick, tell you they

715
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:26,799
Speaker 1: what do you think? Well, I'm murder about left. You

716
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 1: know that because with the offensive line, it gives us

717
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 1: a chance for if our offensive line is is solid, now,

718
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 1: our quarterback is solid. If our offensive line is not solid,

719
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:43,759
Speaker 1: then our quarterback it's not solid. Now we're gonna be

720
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:46,359
Speaker 1: like hiss dact the guy because you I don't care

721
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:49,400
Speaker 1: who you are. You can't tell the team by yourself.

722
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 1: All right, Ryan Switzer, it's going to solve your punt

723
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 1: and kick off return problems. He still got a slight

724
00:37:57,120 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 1: hand me. He's practicing now, Okay, limited though, Yeah, I

725
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:04,399
Speaker 1: mean he practiced on team during team. Yes, right, it's

726
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:06,919
Speaker 1: been catching the punts and kickoff returns. But going in,

727
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:11,240
Speaker 1: Ryan Switzer is going to solve your punt and kickoff

728
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:18,400
Speaker 1: return problems. Very catching. Yep. I think I think he'll help. Okay,

729
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know that it's a problem.

730
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:25,520
Speaker 1: I think he helps it. Yeah, your word? Um, I

731
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 1: mean Beasley can always catch punts? About can Ryan Switzer

732
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 1: is right. I don't think we're gonna give you return him.

733
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:36,719
Speaker 1: He's not the kickoff return guy. He's been practicing. Has

734
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 1: been fattened though. Yeah, but now if he's got a start,

735
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 1: I don't know. That's what I'm saying. They might use

736
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:44,279
Speaker 1: those spots. Are you sure that Rod Smith couldn't take

737
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 1: that kickoff and come back with it? I mean, I

738
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:49,000
Speaker 1: know he's the safety guy, but give him the ball,

739
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:52,399
Speaker 1: big strong guy running right at these guys going on

740
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 1: one hundred miles an hour. This team, this team had

741
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 1: struggled with kickoff with punt returns last year, didn't they? Yeah? Yeah, bad, badly, badly,

742
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 1: and I mean always go with death. Well, Lacy was

743
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:08,320
Speaker 1: out there catching a few. I'm surprised you guys weren't

744
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 1: more adamant about that. Did you guys didn't see that

745
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 1: as an issue last year? I did. I did become

746
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 1: like this dude, I think he'll help. But at the

747
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 1: ball that like they get three yards and I mean

748
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:20,400
Speaker 1: I think Ryan Switzer is gonna change the field for

749
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:22,399
Speaker 1: you a couple of times myself. Oh, he ain't gonna

750
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:24,719
Speaker 1: change the field if those guys on the outside don't

751
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 1: block better than they do. If if anyone can be

752
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:29,840
Speaker 1: better than change the fires, that's what you're talking about.

753
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 1: If anyone can be an improvement from number fourteen, Lance Lenore,

754
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:36,279
Speaker 1: that's not the punt returner, are you not? Just like

755
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:38,920
Speaker 1: every time he's back there holding your breath. Yeah, he

756
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:41,160
Speaker 1: gonna catch it. And I saw it when I saw

757
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:43,560
Speaker 1: that Rams game calling that. I saw that ball and

758
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:45,680
Speaker 1: it goes in the sun and goes to shadows. I'm like,

759
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:49,560
Speaker 1: this is not good. This is not good. Thomas or

760
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 1: White for the fifty three at corner? Good Thomas or White?

761
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 1: Like oh, Duke Thomas. I think Duke better. I didn't

762
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 1: know much about Duke when all I saw for like

763
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 1: two weeks in training camp was Duke getting burned. And

764
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 1: then I saw Duke playing the game and he did great.

765
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:11,239
Speaker 1: So I'm like, I'm gonna take the veteran gal over

766
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 1: White at this point, mark kids white as witching m Yeah,

767
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:19,600
Speaker 1: I might just white. He made it. I saw what

768
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:22,920
Speaker 1: I saw, what he saw, yeah, camp, and it was

769
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:25,400
Speaker 1: he was getting you. You've been, you've been kind of

770
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:27,879
Speaker 1: you've been. I'm not saying shined away, but you've kind

771
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 1: of put brakes on Duke talk. I mean, he's had

772
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:33,920
Speaker 1: he had a nice game playing the second half and

773
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 1: rams who's he playing against? But we'll see this week

774
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:43,279
Speaker 1: because he's gonna have to go right, Yeah, all right,

775
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:45,919
Speaker 1: we got one more, one more, here we go. Has

776
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:48,640
Speaker 1: Noah Brown done enough to keep him on the fifty three?

777
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:55,279
Speaker 1: Andy Jones was my pick? But no the kid is

778
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:59,279
Speaker 1: I think kid is pressing. Man, the kid is pressing. Yeah,

779
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:02,360
Speaker 1: he's pressing enough to be on someone for the wet blanket.

780
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm just I gotta go short somewhere else. Sure,

781
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:10,319
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying, and I gotta go long on

782
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:12,880
Speaker 1: the defensive Well, let me ask you. The suspensions are

783
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:15,399
Speaker 1: going to help him on the defensive line right real quick.

784
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:17,520
Speaker 1: But you're gonna go long in the secondary. You're gonna

785
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:20,160
Speaker 1: go long at linebacker. Yeah, you're gonna go long and

786
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:23,879
Speaker 1: tight end and running running back. You may go long

787
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 1: at quarterback. I'm gonna go long at running back. You

788
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 1: got three running backs at the fullback. Well, maybe with

789
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:31,479
Speaker 1: a suspension if he if he yeah, then he comes

790
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:33,920
Speaker 1: back and then you cut mor Yeah. I'm just asking you.

791
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:37,879
Speaker 1: How about this? Can rush spit rush? Can rush spit

792
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:41,880
Speaker 1: the bit these last two games for you? Everybody's him

793
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:44,759
Speaker 1: on the fifty three? Yeah, can rush rush. I'll tell

794
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:47,840
Speaker 1: you what. He's got to play better than he's practice.

795
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:51,480
Speaker 1: Doubt about that. Yeah, you said it the other day.

796
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 1: It's a little pressure. Pressure is hitting him. Let's see

797
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 1: if we can get this phone call real quick before

798
00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:59,800
Speaker 1: we go to break Tony from El Paso. We lost Tony.

799
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Speaker 1: Tony can't ask a question. We're talking about Romo. We

800
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:06,719
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801
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:08,520
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802
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:10,239
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Speaker 1: I think we'll just move on from that. Let's move forward,

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00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:57,879
Speaker 1: move forward, forward with the with the slashing. But guess

858
00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 1: who's back? Tony from Mala. Hey, how's it going? Guys? Hey? Tony?

859
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 1: You know what I called her the day and then

860
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:08,920
Speaker 1: I asked the question about who's calling the faith on defense.

861
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:10,800
Speaker 1: But I think what I was trying to get to is,

862
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 1: I know, Mary, he's a good defensive line coach, but

863
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 1: calling the plays, it's like a different art. You think

864
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 1: said if he's very good at calling the plays, because

865
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 1: I noticed that's in the playoff games. You know, we

866
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:25,719
Speaker 1: got two weeks to prepare and it was kind of

867
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:28,120
Speaker 1: like that band do great defense. And then when they

868
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 1: got ahead of us, then we started blitting me and

869
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:33,799
Speaker 1: started working. But we got back in the game. But

870
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:37,040
Speaker 1: you know, it's kind of kind of too late. You know,

871
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:39,799
Speaker 1: how much you sure about the play calling if he's

872
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 1: good at that? And then I want to ask one

873
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:46,080
Speaker 1: more question is what's Jason garrets records in the playoffs

874
00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:49,520
Speaker 1: as the offensive coordinator and the head coach? And I

875
00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:53,319
Speaker 1: appreciate you guys time and catch two guys as the

876
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:55,839
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator and the head coach or do you want

877
00:45:55,840 --> 00:46:01,759
Speaker 1: two different roles? So he's one and two offensive coordinator, right,

878
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 1: he's one and two as the head coach. One two,

879
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:12,560
Speaker 1: one in two yeah, same same record, same record. Yeah. Okay,

880
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 1: Now if you look at something to change, Rob marionellis

881
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 1: her sorry, Yeah, that it is what it is. They

882
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 1: play basic basic defense. They slide guys back and forth.

883
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:26,640
Speaker 1: We've been seeing where they've been slanting the guy, bringing

884
00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:29,440
Speaker 1: the linebacker feeling and then bringing the guy over the

885
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:32,960
Speaker 1: top just to cover for them. So you what you

886
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:35,960
Speaker 1: see is what you get. Uh. Well, they just have

887
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:37,919
Speaker 1: to play good at what they do and they will

888
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:42,360
Speaker 1: go three man line sometime and nickel they will uh

889
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:44,480
Speaker 1: do a few things on the back end, but they

890
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 1: keep they keep it simple, sir. Everybody falls in love

891
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:52,120
Speaker 1: with blitzing. Just because you blitz doesn't mean you get there.

892
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:57,840
Speaker 1: And when you fail blitzing, you're in trouble. So I

893
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 1: think I mean calling plays. I assume that's what he's

894
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:05,239
Speaker 1: talking about. Coordinated defense. So keep an eye on when

895
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:08,840
Speaker 1: they go to their three man front with two linebackers

896
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:13,080
Speaker 1: and the linebackers are in the holes, they're in the gaps,

897
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:17,360
Speaker 1: and they decide which one of those guys, if not

898
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:20,439
Speaker 1: both are coming. So it could be a five man rush,

899
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 1: could be a four man rush, but the offense doesn't know,

900
00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:27,120
Speaker 1: and they've been practicing that quite a bit. So my

901
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:30,000
Speaker 1: guess is they're going to use it along with a

902
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:36,319
Speaker 1: three man line with extra dbs, right and less linebackers. Yeah,

903
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:38,480
Speaker 1: I think there's two things you need to look at.

904
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 1: We all were here for the Rob Ryan administration where

905
00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:45,719
Speaker 1: it just seemed like chaotic defense calls, getting in late.

906
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 1: Ten men on the field, That to me is not

907
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:52,359
Speaker 1: a way to play football. This team last year, defensively,

908
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:53,880
Speaker 1: was one of the best in the league when it

909
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:57,799
Speaker 1: came to not allowing plays of over twenty yards. You know,

910
00:47:57,840 --> 00:47:59,319
Speaker 1: they're one of the best teams in the league. When

911
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:02,520
Speaker 1: it came to rush defense, was the best, top five

912
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 1: in scoring defense. If the way that Nate's describing and

913
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 1: Mickey's describing the way to play defense is to play

914
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:12,719
Speaker 1: it simple but be sounded doing it. I don't think

915
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:15,160
Speaker 1: you should have a fault with that. I really really don't.

916
00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:19,719
Speaker 1: I do remember the Rob Ryan administration days where ten

917
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 1: guys on the field, players looking at each other, ball snap,

918
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:26,840
Speaker 1: Now it's a huge play. Give me, give me sound,

919
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:31,319
Speaker 1: give me less flash if you want to say an

920
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 1: occasional I think he plays the strength of his players.

921
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:37,640
Speaker 1: You know, he realizes he doesn't have an elite pass rusher,

922
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:40,160
Speaker 1: so he has to do things to try and help

923
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:43,960
Speaker 1: that way. Orlando Scandrick on some slot blitzer I think

924
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:45,640
Speaker 1: is always going to be something that he's going to

925
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 1: go to. But if they continue not to give up

926
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 1: big plays in the game. They give up one big

927
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:53,080
Speaker 1: play in the game really against the Packers, and it

928
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:55,520
Speaker 1: costs him the game on third and twenty. Other than that,

929
00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:59,399
Speaker 1: they've been rock solid the whole year. Elite Collins can

930
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:02,400
Speaker 1: grow and what he did last year, that's all the

931
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:05,919
Speaker 1: games you need. Yeah's all the stunts you need. Cover

932
00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:11,040
Speaker 1: three technique is blowing up field and penetrating rum and pass.

933
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:14,000
Speaker 1: You're looking at a whole different defense, I promise you.

934
00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:16,879
Speaker 1: And just hold your breath till David Irvin gets back. Right.

935
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:19,160
Speaker 1: All right, let's go back to the phone line. Here

936
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:25,320
Speaker 1: we go, Bill in Shreveport. Hi, guys, how you doing good? Bill?

937
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:27,239
Speaker 1: It's kind of a silly question, but I'm want to

938
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:30,760
Speaker 1: ask anyway, once you retire like before you did, and Momo,

939
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:34,120
Speaker 1: and what is what is the timeline for them to

940
00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:37,759
Speaker 1: come back? Can they come back at wheel or they

941
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:39,759
Speaker 1: have to sit out a year? What is the deal

942
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:42,719
Speaker 1: on that one? All right, it's not that silly. I

943
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:45,279
Speaker 1: mean no, it's not silly that gets hurt. We'll be

944
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:48,919
Speaker 1: asking that question real quick. Romo hadn't filed this paper shot, right, Yeah,

945
00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:51,680
Speaker 1: And even if you file your papers like I don't

946
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:54,560
Speaker 1: know if Mark ron Lynch did or not, but you

947
00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:57,839
Speaker 1: just got to remember just because you retire doesn't make

948
00:49:57,880 --> 00:50:01,200
Speaker 1: you a free agent. So you can retire, and if

949
00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:05,480
Speaker 1: the team doesn't turn your name in too, because they

950
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:09,759
Speaker 1: can put you on reserve retired. Romo was cut, right,

951
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:15,480
Speaker 1: Romo doesn't for that, right, Doug Free retired and they

952
00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:19,000
Speaker 1: probably put him on reserve. I mean, I know for

953
00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:21,120
Speaker 1: a fact that, and I don't know how many years

954
00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:26,439
Speaker 1: it lasted. Tech Shram could not bring himself to give

955
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:30,960
Speaker 1: up on Roger Starbach. So even though Roger retired for

956
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:34,520
Speaker 1: twenty years, he left him on reserve, retired, he didn't

957
00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:37,279
Speaker 1: release his rights because then when you do that, then

958
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:39,239
Speaker 1: the guy can come back and he's a free agent,

959
00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:42,359
Speaker 1: go where he wants. So yeah, and then the other

960
00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:46,080
Speaker 1: thing about retiring is I don't know how this affects it.

961
00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:49,120
Speaker 1: Maybe Nate knows. Is when you decide you can start

962
00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:53,560
Speaker 1: taking your pension, you got a file papers and all

963
00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:56,920
Speaker 1: that stuff like that. But right, the bottom line is,

964
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:02,480
Speaker 1: I mean, once the guy retired, how many guys you know,

965
00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:07,040
Speaker 1: it's only a few guys that that stop that continued

966
00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:08,960
Speaker 1: to work out at the pace that they did to

967
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:14,360
Speaker 1: maintain the ability to play. So we know why you

968
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:17,720
Speaker 1: asked that question. Tony's got a lot of work to do. Brother.

969
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:21,319
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he doesn't look like a guy that yeah football. Yeah,

970
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:22,879
Speaker 1: he got a lot of work to do. If ya,

971
00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:26,880
Speaker 1: if y'all, if you look at Tony, his offseason body

972
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:30,000
Speaker 1: is already in effect. You know, that might be the

973
00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:34,400
Speaker 1: only position I think you could unretire and get away

974
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:39,800
Speaker 1: with it, because there's such a vacuum for quarterbacks. Everybody

975
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:41,960
Speaker 1: needs a quarterback, right, So that's why you don't give

976
00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:44,000
Speaker 1: up on Brett five if he wants to come back

977
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:46,120
Speaker 1: and play. But if you're an offensive lineman and you

978
00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:49,319
Speaker 1: lay out two years, you ain't playing, you know, if

979
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:52,520
Speaker 1: you're a running man. But yeah, right, if you're a

980
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:55,319
Speaker 1: running back and you spent two years not getting hit

981
00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:56,839
Speaker 1: and you're gonna say, yeah, I let me go back

982
00:51:56,840 --> 00:52:00,480
Speaker 1: and get hit again, I don't buy it. That's why

983
00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:04,440
Speaker 1: I worry about head coaches that say they retired and

984
00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:06,880
Speaker 1: then five years later, all of a sudden, the fires

985
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:09,520
Speaker 1: burning again. You never come back and work as hard

986
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:14,840
Speaker 1: as you did originally. When you're trying. Vermil formil is

987
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:16,759
Speaker 1: the one guy that I and only because I saw

988
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:19,160
Speaker 1: a football life on him not too long thick for

989
00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:22,440
Speaker 1: Meal almost got fired if you think about the Rams. Yeah, yeah,

990
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:24,920
Speaker 1: before he won the Super Bowl. Ya, Tony Banks is

991
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:27,960
Speaker 1: the only reason I know this, yeah, is because I

992
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 1: spent in nineteen ninety eight. I would I saw six

993
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:34,440
Speaker 1: Ram football games because I was scouting for Jacksonville and

994
00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:37,400
Speaker 1: the one place I could get into to watch it

995
00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:39,880
Speaker 1: was the press box was in Saint Louis, and so

996
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:41,839
Speaker 1: they were nice enough to have me there. But Dick

997
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:45,360
Speaker 1: vermil really was on his way out. Charlie Army, the

998
00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:47,719
Speaker 1: general manager. That's what they made the deal, you know,

999
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:53,040
Speaker 1: to try and and and get their quarterback situation squared up.

1000
00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:55,279
Speaker 1: But Trent Green gets blown up. They don't know what

1001
00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:57,520
Speaker 1: they have. And you talk about somebody that doesn't know

1002
00:52:57,560 --> 00:53:00,560
Speaker 1: what they have at quarterback fell into that. They fell

1003
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:03,239
Speaker 1: right into that one. So yeah, Dick VERMILLI it was

1004
00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:05,800
Speaker 1: very very close. It was very close to him. Was

1005
00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:09,520
Speaker 1: his offensive Do you remember his offensive coordinator? Yeah? Might

1006
00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:12,920
Speaker 1: have been Mike Martin and Mike was right yeah, or

1007
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:16,680
Speaker 1: quarterback coach. Yeah, yeah, there you go. Yeah, yeah, it

1008
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:19,759
Speaker 1: was got his name back in the news, didn't he. Yeah,

1009
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:22,040
Speaker 1: all right, real quick before we end this show, I

1010
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:24,600
Speaker 1: feel like we kind of rushed that last question or two,

1011
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:28,479
Speaker 1: especially the one about the punt return. You you didn't

1012
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:29,880
Speaker 1: put it on the list if you didn't think it

1013
00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:31,920
Speaker 1: was important. What do you think, Brian about I do

1014
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:35,080
Speaker 1: I think that I think that I'm just looking for

1015
00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:38,880
Speaker 1: a guy that can change fuel position for this football team.

1016
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:40,759
Speaker 1: This team was one of the best and offensively of

1017
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:44,759
Speaker 1: going on long drives, five minute drives, finishing drives, you

1018
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:46,960
Speaker 1: know that they were one of the best. And I

1019
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:49,319
Speaker 1: was just trying to think of ways what if they

1020
00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:52,400
Speaker 1: didn't have to get two or three more first downs

1021
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:57,000
Speaker 1: to drive just because you get maybe this, yeah, this

1022
00:53:57,080 --> 00:53:59,920
Speaker 1: guy an average maybe ten to twelve yards or return.

1023
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:02,800
Speaker 1: I'm just thinking about getting one more first down instead

1024
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:05,120
Speaker 1: of starting at the you know, eighteen, you start to

1025
00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:07,440
Speaker 1: twenty eight, you know that that kind of thing. I

1026
00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:10,880
Speaker 1: just feel like that they've drafted Ryan Switzer with the

1027
00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:14,799
Speaker 1: intent of pushing him to being that guy to where

1028
00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:16,320
Speaker 1: he can change the field for you. And all of

1029
00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:18,759
Speaker 1: a sudden, the ball's near midfield. You get the ball

1030
00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:22,160
Speaker 1: near midfield, Dak Prescott completes one past Dan Bailey's kicking

1031
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:24,600
Speaker 1: a field goal. Yeah, that's how this is going to work. Well,

1032
00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:27,719
Speaker 1: I said this yesterday, and you know the West Welkers,

1033
00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:31,400
Speaker 1: the Wayne Curbets, the world and obviously Beasley A. Mendolas.

1034
00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:33,680
Speaker 1: There's a lot of guys in life that look like

1035
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:36,960
Speaker 1: them walking around, you know, and they don't play football.

1036
00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:39,239
Speaker 1: I mean, it takes a special person to be able

1037
00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:42,000
Speaker 1: to play at that size and be able to play. Well,

1038
00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:43,880
Speaker 1: we'll find out if he can do it, you know,

1039
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:46,120
Speaker 1: if he can take these hits and all that and

1040
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:50,000
Speaker 1: hang onto the ball. And yeah, he looks the part.

1041
00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:52,400
Speaker 1: But I think there's a lot of guys that have

1042
00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:54,759
Speaker 1: come through rookie free agents and stuff that just don't

1043
00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:56,560
Speaker 1: make it because they're not big enough. You gotta remember

1044
00:54:56,600 --> 00:54:59,080
Speaker 1: his bins and stuff like that. You gotta remember his background.

1045
00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:02,080
Speaker 1: His background in high school out of West Virginia was

1046
00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:05,320
Speaker 1: as a running back when he went to North Carolina.

1047
00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:07,600
Speaker 1: So that's the kind of the thought. He's got a

1048
00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:11,000
Speaker 1: little of that running back mentality when you watch him

1049
00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:12,960
Speaker 1: carry the football, and my experience in him, I mean,

1050
00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:15,640
Speaker 1: you guys don't have the advantage I have of watching

1051
00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:17,880
Speaker 1: him play a bunch of games at North Carolina on tape.

1052
00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:20,600
Speaker 1: When you see the ball in his hands, he's got

1053
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:24,040
Speaker 1: that ability that you know, Beasley catches the ball, gets

1054
00:55:24,040 --> 00:55:27,440
Speaker 1: with the cans and get and gets down with switzer Switzers.

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00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:30,239
Speaker 1: They catch the ball and then run as fast as

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Speaker 1: he can, and then he'll take a hit and pop

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00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:34,840
Speaker 1: back up. But I understand you're concerned about that. I

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00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:38,360
Speaker 1: just think that he's got that demeanor of fearless, catch,

1059
00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:42,080
Speaker 1: secure and then go what Parcels used to say, you

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00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:45,000
Speaker 1: gotta be crazy to be apartment. Yeah, absolutely, a little

1061
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:48,600
Speaker 1: bit crazy to be that guy. And he catches the ball. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Number one, Hey we had a guy like that, sure,

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Speaker 1: Heybay Desmond Howard. Desmond Howard was not a great wide receiver.

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00:55:55,040 --> 00:55:59,799
Speaker 1: Desmond Howard was a tremendous secure catch, secure catch. And

1065
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:02,000
Speaker 1: what happens is if you get a guy like and

1066
00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:05,560
Speaker 1: Mickey wants the blockers to be better on the outside.

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00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:08,760
Speaker 1: What happened when I saw in Green Bay with Desmond

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00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:12,239
Speaker 1: Howard is nobody wanted to miss a block. Nobody wanted

1069
00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:14,719
Speaker 1: to be the guy that didn't spring the run. So

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00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:17,880
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, the guy's level of blockers comes

1071
00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:21,000
Speaker 1: up because they're watching the tape and they're like, oh God,

1072
00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:22,840
Speaker 1: you missed that. But if you missed that block, we score.

1073
00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:25,840
Speaker 1: If you make that block, we score. And Howard raised

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00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:29,399
Speaker 1: the level his ability to make people miss. Everybody else

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00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:32,040
Speaker 1: get their block, and now you're averaging fourteen yards or return.

1076
00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:33,839
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take deon off the table. I think Dion

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00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:36,839
Speaker 1: was the best to do it because he was just

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00:56:36,920 --> 00:56:40,680
Speaker 1: so dynamic. But after him, the two guys that I

1079
00:56:40,719 --> 00:56:43,319
Speaker 1: remember as really good part returners for this team were

1080
00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:47,680
Speaker 1: probably two of the slower receivers, Kelvin Martin and Patrick Crayton.

1081
00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:50,359
Speaker 1: They'd catch the ball, goes straight up the field. That's

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00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:52,920
Speaker 1: that's yeah, exactly. Don't dance around unless you're Dion, who

1083
00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:55,560
Speaker 1: can dance, dance, dance, find it and hit. These guys

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00:56:55,719 --> 00:56:57,399
Speaker 1: go straight up the field that part return. Y'all talked

1085
00:56:57,400 --> 00:57:00,480
Speaker 1: about the Eagles Cowboys ninety one game change the whole franchise.

1086
00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:04,080
Speaker 1: That game when Kelvin Martin went straight up the field

1087
00:57:04,120 --> 00:57:06,680
Speaker 1: eighty five yards, I thought you were gonna say Reggie Switten.

1088
00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:10,000
Speaker 1: He was. It wasn't bad either, It was pretty good.

1089
00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:15,879
Speaker 1: That's pretty Oh yeah, the used car salesman from Arkansas. Yes, yeah,

1090
00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:19,520
Speaker 1: playing in the AF two AF two a F two

1091
00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:22,680
Speaker 1: signed off the streets. So funny. Starry. We're coming back

1092
00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:25,160
Speaker 1: from a game and he's sitting caddy quarter across the

1093
00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:28,360
Speaker 1: aisle for me and I'm writing and he's looking over

1094
00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:30,440
Speaker 1: and he goes, oh, you got my name in there.

1095
00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:35,440
Speaker 1: I'm going It was his first game back. They just

1096
00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:38,200
Speaker 1: got a body. He needed a wide receiver. Yeah. I

1097
00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:41,080
Speaker 1: can't remember the guy's name. We went to Pittsburgh. He

1098
00:57:41,120 --> 00:57:44,680
Speaker 1: was a punt returner in preseason. Fumbled a punt and

1099
00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:48,360
Speaker 1: we were flying back from to San Antonio and Mickey

1100
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:50,680
Speaker 1: I can't remember his name, but whatever his name will

1101
00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:53,560
Speaker 1: say the Smith and he was just like God, Smith,

1102
00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:56,800
Speaker 1: hang on to the ball. Guy is sent right behind

1103
00:57:56,920 --> 00:57:59,880
Speaker 1: him on the bus and he's just looking He's just dead.

1104
00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:03,320
Speaker 1: He's like five am. He's just looking like, yeah, hang

1105
00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:07,160
Speaker 1: on the ball, careful on those bust to be careful

1106
00:58:07,160 --> 00:58:09,479
Speaker 1: on the bus and then plane. All right, Well that'll

1107
00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:12,200
Speaker 1: do that. Yeah, I think that's a full hour. You know.

1108
00:58:12,240 --> 00:58:14,280
Speaker 1: We did pretty good. Yeah, we were here from the

1109
00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:17,360
Speaker 1: first Yeah. Sorry, looked like a little short. Mike's gonna

1110
00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:20,560
Speaker 1: run over to Omni Yeah, who's winning the fight? Which

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00:58:20,600 --> 00:58:26,320
Speaker 1: one Saturday boxing match? Well, no, I don't even care.

1112
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Speaker 1: They asked Sean Lee that question, and Sean Lee said, somebody,

1113
00:58:30,040 --> 00:58:33,040
Speaker 1: it's the boxing match, right, the boxing match. I'm gonna

1114
00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:36,560
Speaker 1: go with the boxer myself, the boxer, Yeah, can't, can't.

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00:58:36,560 --> 00:58:38,680
Speaker 1: What do you think whether Mayweather? Hey, whether are you

1116
00:58:38,760 --> 00:58:41,480
Speaker 1: gonna pay to see it? Is the question? No, No,

1117
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Speaker 1: I'm sure I'm gonna find it in the press box,

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00:58:43,680 --> 00:58:45,600
Speaker 1: will tell me what happened. I'm gonna find it. This

1119
00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:47,680
Speaker 1: is what I think is gonna happen. He's gonna hit

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00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:50,360
Speaker 1: him so hard that it's gonna get stopped because of

1121
00:58:50,360 --> 00:58:52,920
Speaker 1: a cut over his eye. Mayweather, We'll just continue to

1122
00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:55,440
Speaker 1: hit him because he's never been hit like that. It's

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Speaker 1: gonna it's gonna be a stopping him. Welcome to the

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00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:02,000
Speaker 1: boxing show. Hey, why not? We could do it? We

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Speaker 1: fight in here sometimes a lot, all right for Nate Mickey,

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Speaker 1: Brian Kent, Garrison, I'm Nick even. We'll see you next

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