1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,240 Speaker 1: Phase one trial Operation Warp Speed is It's is not 2 00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:12,879 Speaker 1: about freedom. It's gonna be a fun show tonight. Well 3 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:16,639 Speaker 1: maybe fun, maybe hard to listen to. But I think 4 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:22,079 Speaker 1: I think some of it is important information and the 5 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 1: rest of it is stuff. Well, we need to remember. 6 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 1: This is our COVID rewind special and it's time for 7 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 1: us to remember because here's what's happening now. We live 8 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:37,880 Speaker 1: in a day and age of social media of eight 9 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 1: million news sources. Everything's at the touch of a button, 10 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:44,240 Speaker 1: and there's a new huge story or scandal every single day. 11 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 1: And what it does is it causes us to forget 12 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 1: news that was yesterday, last week, last month. We forget 13 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 1: about things. And right now there's all this COVID insanity 14 00:00:57,400 --> 00:01:00,280 Speaker 1: going on in America and people are horrified by it. 15 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:04,679 Speaker 1: What a vaccine mandates from the president. They're already openly 16 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:07,040 Speaker 1: talking about you you're gonna have to have a vaccine 17 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 1: to travel by air. People have floated the idea of 18 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:15,639 Speaker 1: stopping people at the state borders and checking your paper. 19 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 1: I mean, it's crazy, right, crazy, all these mandates and 20 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:23,480 Speaker 1: it's nuts. And the financial aspect of it, people are 21 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 1: looking at inflation and gas prices and food prices and 22 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 1: everything's terrible. Okay, I agree it's not ideal right now, 23 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 1: but I do think we have to rise above being 24 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 1: slaves the current news cycle and we have to be adults. Yeah, 25 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 1: everything right now is bad. It looks like it's going 26 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 1: to continue to get worse for a little while. But 27 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 1: how do we get here? How do we get here? 28 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 1: We didn't just wake up today and just up terrible today. No, no, 29 00:01:55,760 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 1: no, no no, there was a process to getting here, that's art. 30 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 1: It with coronavirus started early, and it started with bad 31 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:08,800 Speaker 1: decision making early. And so what we're going to do 32 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 1: because we're adults, we have to be the adults, right 33 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 1: We can't bank on the communists being adults. Because we're adults. 34 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 1: We're gonna take a sober look back on coronavirus from 35 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 1: the beginning. Hit a few high points. We got some 36 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 1: great guests who said, what, who did? What? Where did 37 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:28,800 Speaker 1: we go wrong? And we're not doing this so we 38 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 1: can point fingers. It's taste fault, it's her fault. We're 39 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:34,360 Speaker 1: not doing that. There'll be some finger pointing. Of course, 40 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:39,239 Speaker 1: we're doing this so when the next crisis hits our shores, 41 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:41,800 Speaker 1: and I promise there will be another one, because there's 42 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:45,240 Speaker 1: always another one. That's life. When the next crisis hits 43 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 1: our shores, we can do a heck of a lot 44 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 1: better than we did this time, because man, did we 45 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:54,919 Speaker 1: screw this entire thing up. So let's rewind just a 46 00:02:54,919 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 1: little bit. Twenty twenty, Jen worry, I bet you didn't remember. 47 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 1: It was January. January seventh of twenty twenty. That's last year. 48 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 1: China confirms it had a novel coronavirus, initially named twenty 49 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 1: nineteen and cove. Now, hold on one second on this. 50 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:20,799 Speaker 1: I remember that, and I remember obviously wrongly, completely dismissing it. 51 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 1: It says it's not uncommon at all to have China 52 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 1: do that kind of thing. This is an area where diseases, 53 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:30,960 Speaker 1: new diseases, strange diseases have always broken out. I mean, 54 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:33,920 Speaker 1: China was hard on Ganghis Khan's army just because of 55 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 1: this kind of thing. So, okay, have a new disease, 56 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 1: pop said all right. January seventeenth, twenty twenty, United States 57 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 1: implements health screening at New York, San Francisco, and Los Angeles. 58 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 1: So that's only ten days later our people started to 59 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 1: get word. Okay, this thing is transmissible, might be a problem, 60 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 1: probably something we don't want here. January twenty first, that's 61 00:03:57,440 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 1: just two weeks after China confirmed it. CDC confirms the 62 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 1: first US coronavirus case in Washington State. Okay, so that 63 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 1: was a moment in time there was a new disease 64 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 1: from China. Looks like it could be deadly. All right, 65 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 1: we're gonna try to get some health streamings, maybe keep 66 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 1: it out of here. Boom it gets here. First case here, 67 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:25,360 Speaker 1: all right, moving off, January twenty third, twenty twenty. See, 68 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:29,040 Speaker 1: remember how fast this happened, right, Just remember just January seventh, 69 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 1: China confirmed it. January twenty third, partial lockdown in Wuhan, China. 70 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 1: Who that's the World Health Organization says coronavirus does not 71 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 1: yet constitute an international public health concern. And I do 72 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:46,839 Speaker 1: want to I do want to focus on one little 73 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 1: bit here of this January third part. January twenty third part, 74 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 1: partial lockdown in China. Just a quick heads up for you. 75 00:04:57,440 --> 00:05:03,039 Speaker 1: All these lockdowns, all this insanity, that's what China did. 76 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:08,279 Speaker 1: That's communist China's solution. Moving on, January thirtieth, World Health 77 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 1: Organization declares a global health emergency January twenty. January thirty first, 78 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:18,360 Speaker 1: President Trump announces it will deny US entry to four 79 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:21,600 Speaker 1: nationals who've traveled in China for the last fourteen days. 80 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 1: Just want to point something out here really quickly. That 81 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:26,840 Speaker 1: was the right move by Trump, the no brainer, right move. 82 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:30,279 Speaker 1: It's something every country does when there's a deadly disease. 83 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:32,720 Speaker 1: You restrict access to people who are from the place. 84 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 1: You know. It's normal. And Donald Trump was called a 85 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:39,719 Speaker 1: racist for this by the entirety of the American media, 86 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:43,160 Speaker 1: Joe Biden himself, Nancy Pelosi, and the rest of them. 87 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 1: How broken is our political system. We can't even protect 88 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:52,359 Speaker 1: the country from disease without racist imaccusations. People are so stupid. 89 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 1: February third. Again, this thing's moving fast. It was just 90 00:05:56,880 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 1: January seventh. China confirmed they had a February third. US 91 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 1: declares a public health emergency. February six. The first COVID 92 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 1: death in the US happened February eleventh. Wjoe names coronavirus 93 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:17,160 Speaker 1: COVID nineteen. February twenty six. President Trump puts Vice President 94 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 1: Mike Pence in charge of the response, and Mike Pence 95 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 1: stepped up had this to say, mister Presidents, as we've 96 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 1: been briefed, while the threat to the American public remains 97 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 1: low of a spread of the coronavirus, you have directed 98 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:42,480 Speaker 1: this team to take all steps necessary to continue to 99 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:45,279 Speaker 1: ensure the health and well being of the American people. 100 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 1: And the people of this country can be confident that, 101 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:52,799 Speaker 1: under your leadership, we will continue to bring the full 102 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:57,279 Speaker 1: resources of the federal government, in coordination with our state 103 00:06:57,360 --> 00:07:00,840 Speaker 1: and local partners, to see to the health and well 104 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:04,479 Speaker 1: being into the effective response to the coronavirus here in 105 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 1: the United States of America. Okay, so just let's recap 106 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 1: the recap here. China announces they have a virus. We 107 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 1: get word, start to get a couple of cases here, 108 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 1: Donald Trump announces a band, call it a racist for it, 109 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 1: puts Mike Pants in charge. So far, so far, up 110 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 1: to this point, that was February twenty six, twenty twenty. 111 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 1: So far, we're fine, Oh good, take it, some precautions. 112 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 1: Looks like we want to get out ahead of it. 113 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 1: And then March sixteenth happened. And I want you to 114 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 1: understand something. I'm about to play you a little video clip, 115 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 1: and you're gonna hurt a little bit. When you watch it. 116 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 1: But I want you to think about where we are now. 117 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 1: The inflation, the unemployment that mandates, the madness, people losing 118 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 1: their job, the military purge. I want you to think 119 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 1: about where we are now. Everything bad that's happening right now. 120 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 1: I want you to think about it. And now I 121 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 1: want you to watch this little video from March sixteenth. 122 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 1: In this afternoon, we're announcing new guidelines for every American 123 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 1: to follow over the next fifteen days. As we combat 124 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 1: the virus Seach and every one of us has a 125 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 1: critical role to play in stopping the spread and transmission 126 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 1: of the virus. We've made the decision to further tough 127 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 1: in the guidelines and blunt the infection. Now, we'd much 128 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 1: rather be ahead of the curve than behind it, and 129 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 1: that's what we are. Therefore, my administration is recommending that 130 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 1: all Americans, including the young and healthy, work to engage 131 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 1: in schooling from home when possible, avoid gathering in groups 132 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:47,959 Speaker 1: of more than ten people, avoid discretionary travel, and avoid 133 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 1: eating it drinking at bars, restaurants, and public food courts. 134 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:58,680 Speaker 1: If everyone makes this change, or these critical changes and 135 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 1: sacrifices now, we will rally together as one nation, and 136 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:13,200 Speaker 1: we will defeat the virus. March eighteenth, twenty twenty, Trump 137 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 1: signs the Coronavirus Relief Package, the relief Package. I just 138 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 1: want to again point out you're mad about those prices. 139 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 1: You're mad about inflation? Are you mad about it? Let's 140 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 1: want to point out we stopped an economy and then 141 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 1: started printing money and throwing it at it. March nineteenth, 142 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 1: California announces the first wide stay at home order. Japan 143 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:48,960 Speaker 1: postpones the Olympics March twenty seventh. And these are really 144 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:52,679 Speaker 1: coming fast, aren't they now? Donald Trump signs a stimulus 145 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 1: package into law, the Care Act. Again, just want to 146 00:09:55,640 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 1: point out all that inflation and stuff. Okay, anyway, six 147 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 1: point six million US workers file for unemployment. April third, 148 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:14,440 Speaker 1: Trump administration recommends all Americans wear face coverings. And then 149 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 1: the famed doctor Fauci, who can forget the things he 150 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:22,560 Speaker 1: was saying, Doctor Fauci, you are now saying that you 151 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 1: don't understand why all Americans are not staying at home. 152 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 1: Have you told the President that you think it's a 153 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:32,320 Speaker 1: good idea to order Americans to stay home? Well, there's 154 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 1: always that difficulty of ordering centrally versus having the states 155 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:43,200 Speaker 1: be the major implements of policy. I have said that 156 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 1: I feel we should be implementing this social distancing or 157 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:53,560 Speaker 1: physical separation, which in many respects means staying at home 158 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:56,560 Speaker 1: to the extent possible, and I do think we should 159 00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:59,720 Speaker 1: do it broadly throughout the country. So when we extended 160 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 1: the guidelines from the fifteen day guidelines to now thirty 161 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 1: days towards the end of April, I think this is 162 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:11,080 Speaker 1: an opportunity for everyone, every state, every region, every locale 163 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:17,959 Speaker 1: to participate in this very serious physical separation as delineated 164 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:24,840 Speaker 1: very clearly in the guidelines. Well that's how it started. 165 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 1: Here's Jen Saki with how it's going. Perhaps the federal 166 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:34,680 Speaker 1: government should step in and issue manning. That's not the 167 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:39,960 Speaker 1: role of the federal government. That's not the role of 168 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:44,320 Speaker 1: the federal government. It's weird because here's Joe Biden, like 169 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 1: thirty seconds later, I will sign an executive order that 170 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 1: will now require all executive branch federal employees to be 171 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 1: vaccinated all I've signed another executive order that will require 172 00:11:57,320 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 1: federal contractors to do the same. If you want to 173 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:03,079 Speaker 1: work with the federal government and do business to this 174 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 1: get vaccinated. If you want to do business with the 175 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:12,719 Speaker 1: federal government, vaccinate your workforce. So tonight I'm announcing that 176 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 1: the Department of Labor just developing an emergency rule to 177 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:22,440 Speaker 1: require all employers with one hundred or more employees that 178 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 1: together employee over eighty million workers to ensure their workforces 179 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 1: are fully vaccinated. Stay home fifteen days, will come together 180 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 1: defeat the virus. That's how it started. You're enjoying how 181 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:49,679 Speaker 1: it's going. Next time a crisis hits, maybe we safeguard 182 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:51,839 Speaker 1: our liberty just a little bit more than we did 183 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:55,600 Speaker 1: last time. All that may have made you uncomfortable, but 184 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 1: I'm right, We've got a great show for you tonight. 185 00:12:57,679 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 1: Hang up joining me now. Obviously the man who doesn't 186 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 1: even need an introduction anymore, the great Jack, but Sovic 187 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:23,719 Speaker 1: maybe the best wealth of information I know. Jack. We're 188 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:28,439 Speaker 1: rewinding the pandemic on tonight's special and figuring out the 189 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:31,680 Speaker 1: origins of how we screwed it up and the origins 190 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 1: of the whole thing. I think people forget this thing 191 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 1: started in China, and that's amazing to say, but I 192 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 1: do think a lot of people forget that fact. What 193 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 1: really is amazing, you know, you hear the President come 194 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:45,560 Speaker 1: out and say it's your fault if you're not vaccinated. Right, 195 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 1: it's the fault of the in vaccinated. We have to 196 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 1: target them, we have to treat them like they're in 197 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 1: the new underclass. But actually, this isn't a pandemic of 198 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 1: the vaccinated. It's a pandemic that started from COVID nineteen, 199 00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 1: which emanated from Wuhan, China. Then the CCP government lied 200 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 1: about Chairman chij and Pings specifically lied about it to 201 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 1: the who refused to share information about the original genome 202 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 1: of this thing. And then, thirdly, and probably most importantly, 203 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 1: we then find that they were doing experiments at that 204 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 1: Wuhan lab that were rubber stamped by Fauci and his 205 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 1: specific agency, the NIAID, that we're conducting studies into humanized 206 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 1: mice and chimeric spike protein enabled pathogens which they to 207 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 1: use their own phrase, pathogen enhancements that were being done 208 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 1: in order to see if they could make coronaviruses that 209 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 1: were more susceptible, more pandemic capable in humans. Jack, every 210 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 1: time I hear about this gain of functions stuff, it 211 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 1: really really creeps me out because I can't wrap my 212 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 1: mind around exactly why this happens. Would you please explain 213 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 1: what is the justification for purposely making a virus worse 214 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 1: and deadly for humans? So when you talk to them, 215 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 1: and I've gone back and looked at Faucci's statements about this, 216 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 1: and he had this guy, Peter Dashak, who ran a 217 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 1: cutout organization called Eco Health Alliance. It's this wonderful sounding name, 218 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 1: but it really does. It just moves money around in 219 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 1: shell games so that NIH can say, well, we didn't 220 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 1: approve it, these guys, you know. But what they say 221 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 1: is is that gain of function is done so that 222 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 1: in case there is what they call a spillover incident 223 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 1: of one of the coronaviruses. Right, so if something comes 224 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 1: out of one of those caves infects the villagers, the 225 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 1: villagers catch it, they go big. That supposedly they'll have 226 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 1: some plan on the shelf. It's kind of like you know, 227 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 1: the military does o plans for Iran or China or 228 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 1: North Korea. If that thing kicks off, you have a 229 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 1: plan on the shelf that you're ready to put into place. 230 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 1: So the idea behind found you and everybody else is that, oh, well, 231 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 1: we're going to do the gain of functions, so we'll 232 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 1: have its plan to actually defeat this thing if something 233 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 1: like that happens. Of course, that isn't what happened. They 234 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 1: were chasing their tail constantly, They were making up as 235 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 1: they went along. They had no idea what they were doing, 236 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:55,800 Speaker 1: and it doesn't seem like they had much of a 237 00:15:55,840 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 1: plan at all. Jack, Why are working with China though, 238 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:05,080 Speaker 1: to help create viruses? That part is really floorab from 239 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 1: the very beginning. Hold On, hold on, we are working 240 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 1: with the with Wuhan to do this. How long has 241 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 1: this partnership been going on? Why is this happening? Right? So, 242 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 1: this Wuhan partnership goes all the way back, you know, 243 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 1: to two thousand and nine, two thousand and eight. This 244 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 1: is right after the Stars pandemic of twenty one two 245 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 1: thousand and two happened. So this lab was set up, 246 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 1: a biosafety level four lab right there in Wuhan, which 247 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 1: was close to the epicenter of the original Stars outbreak. 248 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 1: And you can even go back into the Wiki League's 249 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 1: emails they came out. Hillary Clinton had them, and she 250 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 1: was even asking questions back then of hey, isn't a 251 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 1: biosafety level four isn't that, But like where we do 252 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 1: the bioweapons kind of programs, like why are we working 253 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 1: with these things? You know, the French supposedly were involved 254 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 1: in this. Can somebody ask the French if they've you know, asked, Hey, 255 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 1: we're making sure they're not doing anything they shouldn't be 256 00:16:55,840 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 1: doing in that lab? Right? Okay, I'm glad you brought 257 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 1: that up because I've always wondered this too. Who should 258 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:08,200 Speaker 1: be making sure? Who is in charge? Who's the oversight. 259 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:10,479 Speaker 1: It's not as if you can take roll call on 260 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:13,439 Speaker 1: the virus particles that leave the lab. Okay, So who's 261 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:16,960 Speaker 1: who's watching the scientists, who's watching these doctors? Who is 262 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:20,439 Speaker 1: in charge over there? Jesse? No one, No one's in 263 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:24,880 Speaker 1: charge of this thing. Right. We claim that we've only 264 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 1: approved certain things. But here's the thing. Once we approved 265 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 1: this funding, and once that goes over, once our experimentation 266 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:35,400 Speaker 1: and once our research goes to China, right, it's it's 267 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:37,960 Speaker 1: just like everything else in China, they can back engineer 268 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 1: everything they've done or everything that we've done, and then 269 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 1: use it for their own purposes. There's they're like, you know, 270 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:45,119 Speaker 1: I say this as a former Navy guy, but you know, 271 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:50,159 Speaker 1: there's a reason that they're underwater unmanned subversibles look exactly 272 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:52,919 Speaker 1: like ours, and that their generation, their fifth generation fighters, 273 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 1: look exactly like ours. So it shouldn't surprise us all 274 00:17:56,080 --> 00:17:58,879 Speaker 1: of a sudden when they start putting out pathogens that 275 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:04,359 Speaker 1: seem really similar to the pathogen enhanced versions that we 276 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:10,160 Speaker 1: saw coming out of US labs. Jack, all right, nobody 277 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:13,720 Speaker 1: has been held accountable in China. Obviously, I don't expect 278 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 1: anybody to ever be held accountable in China. But has 279 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 1: China suffered from this thing at all, if they suffered 280 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 1: any consequences, I mean, as far as taking over us 281 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:24,360 Speaker 1: on the world stage, it looks to be working out 282 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:27,680 Speaker 1: just fine. Well, it really is. You know. The one 283 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:30,119 Speaker 1: thing that you could say, if anything, is that it 284 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:32,720 Speaker 1: actually did kind of screw up their supply chains a lot. 285 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:35,120 Speaker 1: And you are now starting to see the Chinese debt 286 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:38,120 Speaker 1: bubble come to a head to the point where Blackstone 287 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:40,360 Speaker 1: is actually pulling out of some of the projects they're 288 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:45,119 Speaker 1: dealing with in China. Ever, grant, this huge Chinese leverage 289 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:48,439 Speaker 1: for over leveraged firm is now actually being downgraded across 290 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 1: the world, So the investors community is actually starting to 291 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:52,919 Speaker 1: look at this and say, wait a minute, maybe we 292 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 1: shouldn't have been so much in bed with the CCP 293 00:18:56,280 --> 00:18:58,720 Speaker 1: doing all this debt trap financing with them because they 294 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:01,160 Speaker 1: were taking us to the cleaners. This is hitting them, 295 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:03,680 Speaker 1: but at the same time it's hit the United States 296 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:08,440 Speaker 1: and the West ten times worse. Jack, Who is doctor Fauci? 297 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:12,119 Speaker 1: Is he just some lifelong bureaucrat who maybe had a 298 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 1: couple screw ups here as he's some deep cover CCP agent. 299 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:18,240 Speaker 1: I would imagine the answer to that question is somewhere 300 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 1: in very, very very in between. Who is this guy? 301 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 1: Because he certainly is the face of a lot of destruction. Look, 302 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:28,600 Speaker 1: I mean, this guy is the quintessential bureaucrat. Right when 303 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 1: you see doctor Fauci, he is the system. And I 304 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:33,640 Speaker 1: write about this at human events dot com. I talk 305 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 1: about the access of the elites, the one percent in 306 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:39,639 Speaker 1: the United States, the CCP in China. Right, you have 307 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:44,360 Speaker 1: this idea of pure authoritarianism where if you are part 308 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:47,720 Speaker 1: of the system, there are no breaks, there is nothing 309 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 1: that is holding you back, There is no oversight, there 310 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 1: is no one actually watching what is going on. When 311 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 1: it comes to these gain of function research or when 312 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:56,679 Speaker 1: it comes to any of the stuff that's being funded, 313 00:19:56,840 --> 00:19:59,439 Speaker 1: the stuff that Fauci was pushing sometimes when you know, 314 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 1: actually kind of think that he doesn't even know what 315 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 1: it was that they were funding over there, what they 316 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 1: were doing, because he didn't care, He didn't think of 317 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 1: what any of the implications were. He just knew that 318 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 1: he had the power to do it, and he wanted 319 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:15,680 Speaker 1: to do it, so he did. Mike Pence, I mean, 320 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 1: Trump handed the keys to this thing to Pence pretty quick, 321 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:21,680 Speaker 1: who turned and handed him to Fouci pretty quick. What's 322 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:24,240 Speaker 1: the connection there is? Is there a connection there? Am 323 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:28,480 Speaker 1: I looking for something to feris when something deferirius doesn't exist? Well, 324 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 1: you know, that is kind of an interesting question though, right, 325 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:33,200 Speaker 1: Why was it when Pennce was supposed to be sort 326 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 1: of the head of the coronavirus task Force that suddenly 327 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 1: he seems kind of asleep at the wheel. And then 328 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:43,920 Speaker 1: it was pretty quick that those task force briefings suddenly 329 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 1: lost the Vice President at them. And you know, it's 330 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:50,199 Speaker 1: kind of similar to when you see Kamala Harris not 331 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:52,719 Speaker 1: standing up with Joe Biden when she doesn't want to 332 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:55,439 Speaker 1: be held responsible for something and not going to pin 333 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:57,720 Speaker 1: that crap on me right, you know, is the sort 334 00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 1: of the phrase maybe apocryphal that comes out kamala. It 335 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 1: does seem very eerily similar to how Mike Penn's played 336 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:07,520 Speaker 1: this sort of disappearing act when it came to coronavirus, 337 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:11,240 Speaker 1: where on those daily briefings, those daily schedule briefings that 338 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:13,720 Speaker 1: were held, all of a sudden he's not found and 339 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:17,680 Speaker 1: suddenly it's all blamed on Trump. Jack, do you think 340 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:21,200 Speaker 1: the American public is all about the current madness we're 341 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:23,399 Speaker 1: going with now as far as mandates and stuff go. 342 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:26,119 Speaker 1: I understand, I'm far to the right of the public. 343 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:28,639 Speaker 1: I don't think the public is out there calling for 344 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:31,160 Speaker 1: an end of mandates, calling for an end of lockdowns. 345 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:33,479 Speaker 1: I mean, I understand you are, I am, But I 346 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:37,240 Speaker 1: don't think that's the general consensus. Am I wrong? Well, 347 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 1: you know, it's interesting when you look at the polling 348 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 1: at some of this, and I've looked at the people's 349 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 1: pundit Richard Barriss and some of the work that he's done, 350 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 1: is that there's generally, you know, some kind of idea 351 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:48,920 Speaker 1: where people say, look, I just want this to be over. 352 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 1: What do I need to do? Ye, let me get 353 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:53,239 Speaker 1: this over? But when you really start drilling down and 354 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:56,320 Speaker 1: ask questions, Hey, should somebody be fired because they don't 355 00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:58,400 Speaker 1: want to get this vaccine? Should people be kicked out 356 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 1: of the military, Should maybe seels be pulled off mission? 357 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 1: Should Air force pilots be pulled down? Should we be 358 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:06,720 Speaker 1: losing all of these capabilities our submarine force? Right? Then 359 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:09,399 Speaker 1: you start seeing people say, well, no, that doesn't make sense. 360 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 1: Why would we do that, Why would we even talk 361 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 1: about those things? You know, I actually was a finished 362 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 1: masters yesterday here in here in DC, and afterwards I 363 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:20,679 Speaker 1: had an active duty people come up to me and say, hey, 364 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:23,359 Speaker 1: we've been trying to get the religious exemptions, but the 365 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 1: chaplains are listening to the chain of command. They're trying 366 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 1: to talk us out of getting the religious exemptions rather 367 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:32,160 Speaker 1: than how they're supposed to be the first chain right 368 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 1: you get and you know exactly what I'm talking about. 369 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 1: The chaplains are doing the dirty work of the chain 370 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 1: of command and saying, well, you don't really need a 371 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 1: religious exemption. When you got people they're saying, excuse me, 372 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:44,119 Speaker 1: I heard there's abortion involved in some of this research. 373 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:46,920 Speaker 1: I don't want to do anything that supports abortion because yeah, 374 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:49,240 Speaker 1: by the way, if I'm a Christian, that is something 375 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:52,159 Speaker 1: that's pretty big in terms of religion with me. And 376 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:54,200 Speaker 1: yet the chaplain is saying, well, you know, don't worry 377 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 1: about it. Those babies, that's not that big of a deal. 378 00:22:56,960 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 1: It's insane. It's completely backwards. Jack Psovic, thank you so much, 379 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:07,200 Speaker 1: my man Jesse. Always a play with my friend Dude 380 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:10,240 Speaker 1: is always wealth and knowledge. All right, we'll be back. 381 00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 1: She's back. The author of the War on Small Business, 382 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 1: which you should have already purchased and read if you 383 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 1: really want to understand the game that's happening out there 384 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:36,879 Speaker 1: right now, joining me now to talk about that and 385 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 1: other things. Carol Roth, Carol, we're doing a big rewind 386 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 1: show on our special tonight because I think it's important 387 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 1: as people yell about gas prices now and inflation now 388 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 1: and how did this happen? I think it's important people 389 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:54,640 Speaker 1: genuinely understand how it happened because some of us, one 390 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 1: of the ladies happens to be wearing red right now. 391 00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 1: Some of us were warning all this stuff was coming 392 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:04,720 Speaker 1: last year, and we were called monsters, Carol, Why why 393 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:08,720 Speaker 1: is all this economic difficulty happening? Well, this is what 394 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:12,920 Speaker 1: happens when you give up your free choice to central 395 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:17,359 Speaker 1: planners and allow them to pick winners and losers and 396 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 1: decide who is essential and who is non essential, who 397 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 1: can work what you need to work, whether or not 398 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:29,120 Speaker 1: there's freedom in making the choices that we all should 399 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 1: have and whole dear as basic rights. When you move 400 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 1: that away from freedom and choice to the purview of 401 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:41,720 Speaker 1: a few, not only are you going to get bad outcomes, 402 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 1: but you're going to get outcomes that benefit anybody who 403 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:48,560 Speaker 1: is in the club, who is well connected, who has 404 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:53,000 Speaker 1: that political clout, and it's going to take away the 405 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:58,439 Speaker 1: economic freedom from the average American. And unfortunately, that's the 406 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 1: position we're in, and we as individuals are very much 407 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:07,240 Speaker 1: to blame because when this started, not enough people did 408 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:10,240 Speaker 1: stand up and say forget it, this isn't going to happen. 409 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 1: And so when you give up that power and you 410 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:19,440 Speaker 1: give up your fundamental inherent rights, this is what central 411 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:22,760 Speaker 1: planning and the power hungry politicians are going to do 412 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 1: every single time. And Carol, you're right, it is our fault. 413 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:31,160 Speaker 1: Now obviously your fault personally, but as a people, it 414 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:34,120 Speaker 1: is our fault because even to this day, the American people, 415 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:37,400 Speaker 1: the majority, more than fifty percent, are thrilled with lockdowns. 416 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:40,440 Speaker 1: They're thrilled with mandates, They're thrilled with government dictates. They 417 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 1: want these things, yet they do go to the gas 418 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:47,919 Speaker 1: pump and complain, Carol, Why the disconnect? I see people 419 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:51,159 Speaker 1: who I know personally spent the last year year and 420 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:54,399 Speaker 1: a half pitching lockdowns and go home and hide. And 421 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:57,400 Speaker 1: now other people saying, hey, bread went up, when did 422 00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 1: this happen? And they seriously do not realize they're responsible. Carol, 423 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:04,359 Speaker 1: Why do they not realize this? I mean, this is 424 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:08,879 Speaker 1: Stockholm syndrome, California style. And look what happened in the 425 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:13,080 Speaker 1: California recall election, where you had a governor who killed 426 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:17,960 Speaker 1: small businesses, who put in place mandates that he didn't 427 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:22,000 Speaker 1: follow himself, that gave benefits to the big companies to 428 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:26,919 Speaker 1: do different things, hurt their economy, helped to create the 429 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:29,879 Speaker 1: inflation and the state at the same time, they had 430 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:33,399 Speaker 1: an opportunity to go in and recall him, and people 431 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:36,960 Speaker 1: didn't even show up at the polls. So there is 432 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:41,720 Speaker 1: this inherent disconnect as we have given up individually our 433 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:45,560 Speaker 1: power and our rights to the government, that people are 434 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 1: not making those connections that if the government has created 435 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:54,879 Speaker 1: the problem, the solution is not more government. And obviously 436 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:59,200 Speaker 1: that's very deeply entwined in terms of the education system, 437 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:03,480 Speaker 1: in terms of the lack of economic and financial literacy, 438 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 1: the lack of civic literacy that frankly is all intentional. 439 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 1: The intentionally the people who benefit, these central planners, these politicians, 440 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:15,720 Speaker 1: they don't want you to have this literacy. They want 441 00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:18,680 Speaker 1: to be able to come out and say ridiculous things like, oh, 442 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:21,879 Speaker 1: we need to tax the rich more instead of saying, well, 443 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 1: we actually just need to get out of the way 444 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:26,760 Speaker 1: more because that doesn't benefit them, and because we have 445 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:32,720 Speaker 1: the Stockholm syndrome, too many people are going along with that. Carol, 446 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:35,960 Speaker 1: when did the education system stop working at all? Because 447 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:37,640 Speaker 1: I know people are going to be shocked by this, 448 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:41,280 Speaker 1: but I actually don't have a really fancy formal education. 449 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 1: In my background, it was really pretty run of the 450 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:48,440 Speaker 1: mill public schools, and my grades weren't that great, and 451 00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:51,479 Speaker 1: yet I still had business classes. We even had a 452 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:53,960 Speaker 1: little shop in our high school that you had to 453 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:55,679 Speaker 1: go run. You had to go be the manager of it, 454 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 1: where we sold candy bars and sodas. If you learned 455 00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:00,600 Speaker 1: about profits and losses and this. And I was not 456 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:03,400 Speaker 1: in some fancy ivy League school, Carol, Why are other 457 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 1: people not getting this education? So I'll tell you we 458 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:09,359 Speaker 1: had the same thing. We had an intro to business class, 459 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 1: and our teacher, who was amazing, taught us the best lesson. 460 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 1: If you had to go let's say you forgot your pencil, 461 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:17,679 Speaker 1: he made you like pay a dollar to go do that, 462 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 1: and it went into this company or this classroom fun 463 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:22,400 Speaker 1: to give you a party at the end of the year. 464 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:27,760 Speaker 1: And every year that would magically get stolen before the 465 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:30,520 Speaker 1: party happened. So if that wasn't a great lesson on 466 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 1: what you know, power the dynamics should teach you, it 467 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:37,520 Speaker 1: was the best lesson ever. But unfortunately we've seen you know, 468 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:40,240 Speaker 1: it's kind of like the snowball where it starts very 469 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:43,080 Speaker 1: slowly and then it really picks up steam. And we've 470 00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:47,280 Speaker 1: seen this as we get bigger government and bigger special 471 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:51,160 Speaker 1: interests on line and they take over more of the 472 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:54,240 Speaker 1: schooling and they care more about themselves than the students. 473 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:58,240 Speaker 1: The extra money, the extra dollars, the extra focus doesn't 474 00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:01,959 Speaker 1: go into actually benefiting the students. It goes into benefiting 475 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:06,440 Speaker 1: the unions, and so what maybe was really great thing 476 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 1: probably before our time, that was a pretty decent thing 477 00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:12,920 Speaker 1: during our time, just gets continually eroded. And this is 478 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 1: the problem when you have centralized power versus decentralization. And 479 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:20,600 Speaker 1: that is our sesame straight word of the day, the year, 480 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:25,560 Speaker 1: the decade is decentralization, because it is that barrier to 481 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 1: this collective power that ends up making decisions that benefit 482 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:32,560 Speaker 1: the few at the expense of the many. Although they 483 00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:36,880 Speaker 1: always sell it in the opposite way, Carol, obviously you 484 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:39,280 Speaker 1: quite literally wrote the book on small business with your 485 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:41,960 Speaker 1: War on Small Business thing, and I view because I 486 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 1: agree with you, obviously we want the economy extremely decentralized. 487 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 1: I feel like the small businesses we spent the last 488 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 1: two years slaughtering were the key to having a decentralized economy. 489 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:57,600 Speaker 1: And maybe the slaughtering of that key was intentional, am 490 00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:01,280 Speaker 1: I being tinfoil on your head? Guy? Yeah, I mean, 491 00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:03,920 Speaker 1: whether this is like a choose your own adventure book, 492 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:07,680 Speaker 1: you can decide that they're either intentional, potentially trying to 493 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:11,440 Speaker 1: destroy them, or they're just not politically expedient, But you 494 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:14,880 Speaker 1: get the same outcome regardless of what the intentions are. 495 00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 1: And so I care more about the outcomes than the intentions. 496 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:23,160 Speaker 1: The intentions small business is the roadblock to this consolidated 497 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:26,800 Speaker 1: power of big government, big business, and big special interests. 498 00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:31,120 Speaker 1: And that's why those three entities don't particularly like small business. 499 00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:34,920 Speaker 1: And whether it's intentionally destroying them or just making it 500 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:38,880 Speaker 1: really hard for them to succeed, you know, they want 501 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:42,400 Speaker 1: to put up those barriers. And we're seeing every single 502 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:48,080 Speaker 1: piece of legislation, every sort of social justice maneuver that's 503 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:51,920 Speaker 1: out there, which should be theoretically helping the little guy 504 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:56,680 Speaker 1: creating these opportunities for economic freedom, the small business always 505 00:30:56,840 --> 00:31:00,800 Speaker 1: ends up bearing the brunt of what is it out is, Hey, 506 00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:03,400 Speaker 1: we're going to stick it to the big guys. And 507 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:06,320 Speaker 1: this is again a ruse that people fall for over 508 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:09,960 Speaker 1: and over again. And we as individuals, the best thing 509 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,840 Speaker 1: we can do on a day to day basis is 510 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:17,120 Speaker 1: vote with our dollars and support these small, decentralized businesses 511 00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:19,840 Speaker 1: that do create that barrier to power and create those 512 00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:25,840 Speaker 1: wealth opportunities for average Americans. Carol, I think fifteen dollars 513 00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:28,800 Speaker 1: an hour a minimum wage is really the next frontier. 514 00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:31,080 Speaker 1: I know some places have already passed it. I have 515 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:34,400 Speaker 1: no doubt this is something that will become federal law 516 00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 1: at some point in this completely lost country. For those 517 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:40,120 Speaker 1: who don't know. I don't want to talk down anybody, 518 00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:42,120 Speaker 1: and anybody for those who don't know, and they think 519 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:44,560 Speaker 1: that sounds like a great idea. It'll just help out 520 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:48,280 Speaker 1: the poor lady cook and fries. Would you please elaborate 521 00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:51,080 Speaker 1: why the minimum wage should actually be zero? But that's 522 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:54,800 Speaker 1: another story entirely. I mean, I think you're being chief Jesse. 523 00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:57,720 Speaker 1: Why are you saying fifteen dollars a minimum Let's go 524 00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 1: for a cool hundred of a million, will have a 525 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:06,160 Speaker 1: billion dollar minimum wage. Again, this is where great intentions 526 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:10,240 Speaker 1: turn into bad economic policy when you don't understand how 527 00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:14,080 Speaker 1: things are connected. The reason the minimum wage was put 528 00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:17,160 Speaker 1: in place back in the early nineteen hundreds it was 529 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:19,920 Speaker 1: first done in Canada and then in the United States, 530 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:24,840 Speaker 1: was to keep immigrants and minority workers, and then women 531 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:27,560 Speaker 1: out of the workforce. And while Jesse, you may agree 532 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:30,640 Speaker 1: with the women, the idea of keeping people out of 533 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:33,920 Speaker 1: the workforce is not a great thing to do, and 534 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:37,640 Speaker 1: so this was a racist and sexist endeavor. It has 535 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:41,680 Speaker 1: the same impact today because it makes it harder to 536 00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:44,880 Speaker 1: hire that first employee. And if you're a business and 537 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:47,320 Speaker 1: you have to pay that much money, you're either going 538 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:49,880 Speaker 1: to say, well, I'm going to find technology to replace them, 539 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:52,560 Speaker 1: or I'm going to find somebody who's more qualified and 540 00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:55,400 Speaker 1: have them do a bigger job. And so it creates 541 00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:59,760 Speaker 1: fewer jobs. It gets fewer people into the game and 542 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:02,280 Speaker 1: puts them on the path to go to the next level. 543 00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 1: People think that the minimum wage is like an average 544 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:09,240 Speaker 1: wage or a maximum wage or an only wage. It's 545 00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:12,320 Speaker 1: just the wage to walk through the door. We shouldn't 546 00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:14,960 Speaker 1: even call it a minimum wage. We should just say 547 00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:18,920 Speaker 1: it's an unskilled wage. Is to get in the game wage, 548 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,120 Speaker 1: and that's what we want. We want more people to 549 00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:23,000 Speaker 1: get in the game, because if they don't get in 550 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:25,640 Speaker 1: the game, you know where they go. They go onto 551 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:29,200 Speaker 1: the government dole and then the government has more power 552 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:30,880 Speaker 1: and then they say, well, we need to take more 553 00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:34,200 Speaker 1: money and give them universal basic income and help support 554 00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:38,320 Speaker 1: them with this barrier that they have created in the market. 555 00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:42,160 Speaker 1: And we know this doesn't work. We know that free 556 00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:46,520 Speaker 1: choice has brought prosperity to the world every single time 557 00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:48,720 Speaker 1: it's been tried. So the fact that we keep doing 558 00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:52,040 Speaker 1: these things to move us away from freedom and choice 559 00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:56,160 Speaker 1: and putting up these barriers to wealth creation should just 560 00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:59,000 Speaker 1: be a huge wake up call to everyone. And I 561 00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:02,360 Speaker 1: understand that every bud he understands economics, but read The 562 00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:06,360 Speaker 1: War on Small Business. Read Basic Economics by Thomas Swell. 563 00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:10,600 Speaker 1: Go watch Milton Friedman videos on YouTube. There are different 564 00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:14,040 Speaker 1: ways this information can be communicated to you. But don't 565 00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:16,680 Speaker 1: let that good intention that you have that you want 566 00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:22,600 Speaker 1: to help people actually haven't hurt people. Carol Roth, everybody, 567 00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:24,880 Speaker 1: the book is The War on Small Business. Thank you, Carol, 568 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,040 Speaker 1: you're the best. Well I'm the best, but you are too. 569 00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:34,279 Speaker 1: I'm the second best. Thanks. Riel. All right, I'll be back. 570 00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:52,160 Speaker 1: Well joining me now as a guy who's been on 571 00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:54,319 Speaker 1: the show quite a bit. He's on my radio show 572 00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:56,440 Speaker 1: quite a bit. One of the one of the sharper 573 00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:59,319 Speaker 1: minds out there for what's happening, where we are, where 574 00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:03,000 Speaker 1: we're going, Dave reeboy, I would highly recommend his sub stack, 575 00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:05,480 Speaker 1: by the way, if you're looking for fresh thought for 576 00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:10,399 Speaker 1: material every day. Dave. I hate I hate doing the 577 00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:13,640 Speaker 1: thing where I look at America and say I'm disappointed 578 00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:15,480 Speaker 1: in you, right. It feels kind of judgment and I 579 00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:19,040 Speaker 1: don't know, but Dave, I really genuinely am. The truth 580 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:22,719 Speaker 1: is I thought America would push back on lockdowns and 581 00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:28,160 Speaker 1: COVID madness day one because we're America, Land of the Free. Baby, No, Dave, 582 00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:33,000 Speaker 1: America loves these. Yeah. We've been talking about this for 583 00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:35,319 Speaker 1: a couple of years now, I mean, since all this 584 00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:39,399 Speaker 1: nonsense started, and uh, you know, as as as we've 585 00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:42,480 Speaker 1: said many times, we thought this would all come to 586 00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:45,359 Speaker 1: an end pretty quick. I mean, how how do you 587 00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:49,280 Speaker 1: possibly shut down the US economy? How do you possibly 588 00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:53,759 Speaker 1: force people into masks and you know, and vaccines over 589 00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:57,080 Speaker 1: a long period of time without anybody revolting, without you know, 590 00:35:57,120 --> 00:36:00,520 Speaker 1: anybody really caring. People are like, okay, you know, I 591 00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:03,239 Speaker 1: can just stay home. I can you know, I get 592 00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:07,040 Speaker 1: my direct deposit, UM, I can sit and watch Netflix form, 593 00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:09,759 Speaker 1: you know, for for on my free time. I can 594 00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:12,440 Speaker 1: get you know, Uber Eats or grub Hub to deliver 595 00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:15,200 Speaker 1: me food and um, you know, and then we're good 596 00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:20,120 Speaker 1: to go. And it translates now into it translates now 597 00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:23,600 Speaker 1: into you know, the bizarre spectacles we see all the time. Now. 598 00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:26,279 Speaker 1: We saw, you know, last night at the at the 599 00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:28,479 Speaker 1: absurd met gala where you've got a bunch of people 600 00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:31,560 Speaker 1: with no masks. But all the help is is, uh, 601 00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:35,360 Speaker 1: you know, is required to wear a mask, um, you know, 602 00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:37,399 Speaker 1: at all times, and um you know. I mean what 603 00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:39,480 Speaker 1: that does is I mean talk about an elitist thing, 604 00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:45,360 Speaker 1: you know, talking about talk about creating nonsense barriers between people, 605 00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:49,280 Speaker 1: you know, obviously not based on any medical science whatsoever. 606 00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:52,160 Speaker 1: But but here we are, and the people are just 607 00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:56,320 Speaker 1: fine with it. They are five that days, they're cheering 608 00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:59,600 Speaker 1: it on. I mean, when when Biden handed out his 609 00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:02,600 Speaker 1: mandate is famous mandate to the business is obviously I 610 00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:05,640 Speaker 1: lost my mind. You lost your mind. Ridiculous toy randical 611 00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:07,920 Speaker 1: doesn't have the authority. Even if you did have the authority, 612 00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:09,959 Speaker 1: it's not the right thing to do. Lost my mind. 613 00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:12,319 Speaker 1: But Dave, we have multiple polls now. It's not like 614 00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:14,480 Speaker 1: it's one. And I know everyone just yells about how 615 00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:17,360 Speaker 1: the Poles live, but multiple poles now showing this is 616 00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:21,640 Speaker 1: sixty percent of America, sixty percent of America thinks they're outstanding. Dave, 617 00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:24,200 Speaker 1: what am I supposed to do? I'm the minority now. 618 00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:27,880 Speaker 1: I don't recognize my countrymen. Yeah, look, I mean I 619 00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:30,920 Speaker 1: feel the same way I think as we've been speaking 620 00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:33,640 Speaker 1: about again for many, many years. You know, I think 621 00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:36,640 Speaker 1: at the end of the date, there's one direction that 622 00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:38,960 Speaker 1: all this is going in. And when we when we 623 00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:41,880 Speaker 1: talk about things like national divorce, it's not like we're 624 00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:44,040 Speaker 1: you know, it's not like we woke up one morning 625 00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:46,160 Speaker 1: and said, you know what I think, you know, I 626 00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:48,640 Speaker 1: think this car is working. I'm going to dismantle it 627 00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:52,319 Speaker 1: right now. It's when we say it, it's a recognition 628 00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:55,080 Speaker 1: that things are not working. The thing that we're actually 629 00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:58,239 Speaker 1: splitting off and we have split off, you know, I mean, 630 00:37:58,239 --> 00:37:59,920 Speaker 1: we have to recognize that we have split off in 631 00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:04,759 Speaker 1: to two very very different opposite directions. And um, I mean, 632 00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:07,520 Speaker 1: you know, to to go back to my example, when 633 00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:10,160 Speaker 1: I go to a restaurant today and I am approached 634 00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:13,239 Speaker 1: by a waiter or a waitress with a mask on 635 00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:16,359 Speaker 1: and they read me the specials, I say to them, 636 00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:18,319 Speaker 1: You're not going to read me the special until you 637 00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:23,080 Speaker 1: take off your mask, just that much courtesy. But people, 638 00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:25,960 Speaker 1: you know today, when they're you know, when when they 639 00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:29,319 Speaker 1: go into these places, um, they they just don't care. 640 00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:31,680 Speaker 1: They don't care that there's that dividing line between the 641 00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:34,880 Speaker 1: help and everyone else. You know, it's it's a you know, 642 00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:37,960 Speaker 1: it's a fine situation for them to be in. And 643 00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:41,600 Speaker 1: you know, I do think that the regionally, there are 644 00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:45,160 Speaker 1: differences between places like Florida and Texas and uh, you know, 645 00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:48,080 Speaker 1: and and in blue states. I mean you see, you know, 646 00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:53,880 Speaker 1: New Yorkers are not complaining about the vaccine passports in 647 00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:58,160 Speaker 1: New York City, which is bonkers. It's something that I 648 00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:01,240 Speaker 1: wouldn't understand. I mean, I you know, I lived in Texas, 649 00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:03,680 Speaker 1: I live in Florida. Now, there's no way that stuff 650 00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:08,720 Speaker 1: would fly here. No, it wouldn't. And that's what floors 651 00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:11,080 Speaker 1: me about it, Dave. I mean, they they have they 652 00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:14,879 Speaker 1: have to show a passport on their phone, or you're 653 00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:17,359 Speaker 1: not allowed to come in and dine with others. You're 654 00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:19,399 Speaker 1: not allowed to go in and see a concert. You're 655 00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:22,880 Speaker 1: not And Americans, I know they're big city liberals, but 656 00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:26,279 Speaker 1: Americans just said, oh okay. And I see, Dave, I 657 00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:30,000 Speaker 1: see people on the right cheering it on. Oh it's 658 00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:32,399 Speaker 1: not that bad. Oh I kind of enjoy it. Oh 659 00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:35,239 Speaker 1: it's not a big deal. Is the right? When it 660 00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:39,280 Speaker 1: comes to the right, Are they weak? Are they stupid? 661 00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:43,040 Speaker 1: Are they just cowardly? How can the right think that 662 00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:46,600 Speaker 1: we have a vaccinated versus unvaccinated battle right now instead 663 00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:50,880 Speaker 1: of tyranny and oppression. I think they're all of the above. 664 00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:53,759 Speaker 1: I think they're weak. I think they're stupid. But the 665 00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:58,759 Speaker 1: way that that manifests itself sort of most troublingly is 666 00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:03,240 Speaker 1: when they they have a tendency to completely accept whatever 667 00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:06,640 Speaker 1: mainstream narrative and fact pattern comes comes out of the 668 00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:10,520 Speaker 1: mainstream media. If they're talking about you know, and they 669 00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:14,040 Speaker 1: don't even necessarily have to take every single fact as true. 670 00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:17,359 Speaker 1: But if the media starts talking about, hey, this thing 671 00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:19,960 Speaker 1: is the you know, this this thing is the scariest 672 00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:22,160 Speaker 1: virus that's ever come down the line, and it's going 673 00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:25,440 Speaker 1: to kill millions of people. Um, a lot of conservatives, 674 00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:28,520 Speaker 1: especially you know what we call the very online conservatives 675 00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:31,280 Speaker 1: who work in conservative media, you know, who get paid 676 00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:33,600 Speaker 1: to give their opinions, which is, you know, almost a 677 00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:37,040 Speaker 1: kind of scandalous thing. Um, they are following the herd 678 00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:39,319 Speaker 1: of the Washington Post and the New York Times and 679 00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:42,440 Speaker 1: CNN and ABC News and you know, down the line. 680 00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:44,560 Speaker 1: So if they're living in a world that is created 681 00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:48,760 Speaker 1: by um, you know, by by folks who are actually 682 00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:52,520 Speaker 1: the enemies of freedom and once you accept the fundamental 683 00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:57,239 Speaker 1: premises and the narrative and fact patterns, um, you know, 684 00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:59,719 Speaker 1: you're left with the situation where you go, well, you know, 685 00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:03,560 Speaker 1: you know, you're where you're sensitive to the slippery slope 686 00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:05,759 Speaker 1: where it's like, okay, well, I'll accept a little bit 687 00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:09,480 Speaker 1: of you know, a little diminishment of my liberty because 688 00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:11,239 Speaker 1: you know, this virus is so scary and it's going 689 00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:13,200 Speaker 1: to kill millions of people, and blah blah blah, it's 690 00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:16,440 Speaker 1: the least I can do. You know, pretty soon, you know, 691 00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:20,800 Speaker 1: five six, seven, eight, nine paces down, you're talking about 692 00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:25,600 Speaker 1: serious violations and infringements on your liberty. And again, I mean, 693 00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:27,319 Speaker 1: I'm with you. I didn't think we would get here. 694 00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:29,080 Speaker 1: But this has been the most sobering thing in the 695 00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:32,359 Speaker 1: world to watch. It has been. But I'm so glad 696 00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:34,359 Speaker 1: you put it that way. It has been the most 697 00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:36,120 Speaker 1: sobering thing on the world to watch. It has been 698 00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:39,520 Speaker 1: the most revealing moment of my lifetime. And I just 699 00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:42,000 Speaker 1: don't know how to quite process it, except for I 700 00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:43,680 Speaker 1: don't want to be doom and gloom about it, right, 701 00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:47,480 Speaker 1: but it does not feel like federally this thing is 702 00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:51,319 Speaker 1: even close to salvageable. It seems like everything just must 703 00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:53,799 Speaker 1: focus on local. Now that's all we have. All we 704 00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:56,040 Speaker 1: have is Florida, you know, all we have is Texas 705 00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:59,120 Speaker 1: or pick Alabama, pick your state. It doesn't seem like 706 00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:02,919 Speaker 1: there's anything beyond that that is soalvageable. Am I am? 707 00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:06,520 Speaker 1: I out of lie there. I don't think so. I 708 00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:08,200 Speaker 1: mean I thought so for I've thought so for a 709 00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:11,000 Speaker 1: long time. I mean, you know, you've got you've got 710 00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:13,520 Speaker 1: several things going on at once that that make the 711 00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:19,040 Speaker 1: federal situation kind of untenable. Um and the big one 712 00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:21,120 Speaker 1: is just the growth of the administrative state over the 713 00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:22,640 Speaker 1: last century, you know, I mean this has been the 714 00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:28,440 Speaker 1: progressive project. We progressive project specifically is um is in 715 00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:32,799 Speaker 1: order to to to remove power from local authorities and 716 00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:35,200 Speaker 1: give it to you know, quote unquote experts who work 717 00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:38,480 Speaker 1: for the civil service in DC and and increasingly that's 718 00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:41,800 Speaker 1: where the most consequential decisions are made. You know why 719 00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:46,040 Speaker 1: is aoc and ilhan Omar and and and some of 720 00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:48,440 Speaker 1: these other members of Congress. You know, why aren't they 721 00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:50,680 Speaker 1: legislators in the old sense? I mean, these people are 722 00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:53,839 Speaker 1: social media stars. Well there's social media stars only because 723 00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:56,520 Speaker 1: they have nothing else to do. There's no other job 724 00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:59,279 Speaker 1: description at this point. Um, you know, to be a 725 00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:02,520 Speaker 1: member of Congress than to be a social media star. Um, 726 00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:06,239 Speaker 1: you know you're not. Um, you know, all you're doing. 727 00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:08,040 Speaker 1: At most, what you're doing is you're voting up and 728 00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:11,640 Speaker 1: down on continuing budget resolutions where the budgets are defined 729 00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:15,440 Speaker 1: by the agencies themselves. Um, you know, asking for more money. 730 00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:18,479 Speaker 1: It's a self licking ice cream cone. And as you said, 731 00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:22,680 Speaker 1: the only solution is local. Which one of those two 732 00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:28,800 Speaker 1: do you think is hotter Omar or AOC? I think AOC. 733 00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:35,600 Speaker 1: She's got I've always kind of kind of AOC thing. Okay, okay, 734 00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:40,719 Speaker 1: that's fair. Dave reboy got a sub stack? Where can 735 00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:44,359 Speaker 1: people find your substack? Day? You could go first, start 736 00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:49,600 Speaker 1: by from from Twitter. So dave Reeboy on Twitter. Dave Reeboy, 737 00:43:49,760 --> 00:44:11,000 Speaker 1: thank you, thank you. All right, we'll be back. It's 738 00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:14,400 Speaker 1: important to look back, not so we can point fingers. 739 00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:18,279 Speaker 1: It's important to look back so we can learn. We 740 00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:22,239 Speaker 1: handle this crisis as a nation absolutely terribly. It has 741 00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:26,080 Speaker 1: brought us to where we are now divided. Doesn't mean 742 00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:28,200 Speaker 1: we have to beat ourselves up over it, but it 743 00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:31,440 Speaker 1: is important to know there's always another crisis. Coming. Let 744 00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:33,680 Speaker 1: us resolve to do a bit better than next time. 745 00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:38,719 Speaker 1: All right, Phase one trial Operation Warp speed is It's 746 00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:42,840 Speaker 1: is not about freedom.