1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:04,280 Speaker 1: It's time to get inside the Giants Huddle on Giants 2 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:04,800 Speaker 1: dot Com. 3 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:06,560 Speaker 2: We go here, we go on the Giants Bubble. 4 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:09,000 Speaker 3: Let him in there, let's go part of the Giants Podcast. 5 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:09,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, we're. 6 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:11,800 Speaker 4: Back here for another episode of the Giants Huddle Podcast, 7 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 4: brought to you by Citizens, the Official Bank of the Giants. 8 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 4: John schmelk Old, Buddy, Greg Giananti, Gio, what's up. 9 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 2: Bro, It's great to see you man. 10 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 5: We were just talking about how many years you have 11 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 5: been here with the Giants, and I was working as 12 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 5: a producer at Wfan with you on the Giant games 13 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 5: and yes, on the Giant Games, but then also just 14 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:32,920 Speaker 5: behind the scenes with Steve Summers and everybody, and I 15 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 5: remember you had the job that I wanted, which was 16 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:38,920 Speaker 5: the lead weekend producer so I could get my weekend 17 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:39,839 Speaker 5: nights back. 18 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:41,159 Speaker 4: Which, by the way, for the folks that I know, four 19 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 4: to midnight Friday, Saturday and Sunday not fun. 20 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:46,159 Speaker 5: Right exactly. So I wanted to get off of that 21 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:48,479 Speaker 5: and then get the ones where I get my weekends back, 22 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 5: and then you ended up coming to the Giants. I 23 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:51,839 Speaker 5: was thinking, how many years is that You're like, this 24 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 5: is year seventeen, Season seven, season seventeen, so unbelievable. So 25 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 5: you've done a great job and we're happy to have 26 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 5: you on WFAN, this great partnership and here you during 27 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 5: the game. Y. 28 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:03,640 Speaker 4: It were great to be back. And you know we're 29 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:05,680 Speaker 4: gonna have salo on later in the show. Me you 30 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 4: and him came in I think what three semesters apart 31 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 4: his interns. 32 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, I was, uh, September two thousand and five. Yeah, so, 33 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:16,480 Speaker 5: and he was I believe he was three, So he 34 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:18,119 Speaker 5: was a couple of years or at least a year 35 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:19,959 Speaker 5: and a half ahead of me. And I think you 36 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:21,559 Speaker 5: were right in the in the mix there too. 37 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, And you know you were, like you said, 38 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 4: you wereked the Giant games, what three or four years 39 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 4: for us in the studio. 40 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:28,479 Speaker 5: Yeah, And it was the two thousand and seven season. 41 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 5: I was the in studio producer, so I got to 42 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 5: watch that whole run and man, I tell you, that 43 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 5: is still and I don't think I'll ever be top 44 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 5: the greatest run in NFL postseason history. And we were 45 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 5: there to watch the whole thing. I was just in 46 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 5: absolute awe. I mean I actually I felt good about 47 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 5: the Giants beating the Cowboys. That that Playoffs. But the 48 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 5: rest of those games, I was like, there's no way 49 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 5: they're going into Green You and. 50 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 3: I talked before that Green Bay and were like, no shot, 51 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 3: no shot. 52 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 5: And then of course the Super Bowl it felt the 53 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 5: same way. But but what a run, and to experience 54 00:01:57,120 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 5: it that close to doing the games was just spectacular. 55 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 4: I'll never forget. In that Green Bay game, it's notill 56 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 4: my favorite Giant game I ever worked. So mad Dog 57 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 4: had done his remote there from Lambeau that morning. Yeah, 58 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 4: so he's in the back of the booth watching the game, 59 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:10,400 Speaker 4: and you know, Lawrence Time's had missed those two fiegals earlier, 60 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 4: and he goes in there to kick the kicking over 61 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 4: time the week he goes. 62 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 3: Johnny, let me tell you no chance he's making this. 63 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 6: Yep. 64 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 5: It's just I mean, you know what, And a lot 65 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:22,119 Speaker 5: of us felt the same exact way. 66 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 4: I think of a boss in the booth folk the 67 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 4: same da. They banged it right through and the hell 68 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 4: of a run. 69 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 3: All right. 70 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:29,960 Speaker 4: You had a bunch of guys on this morning with this. 71 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 4: We're recording this on Monday. By the way, so many 72 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 4: news breaks between now and Wednesday. Don't freak out. Great, 73 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 4: great to have all the fa N shows here, we're 74 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:38,360 Speaker 4: doing some stuff for charity with the Giants Foundation. 75 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 3: It's this great day. 76 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 4: You talked to Brian Dable Daniel Jones. Just talk about 77 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 4: your kind of impression after talking to somebody the big 78 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:45,240 Speaker 4: time decision makers for the Giants. 79 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 5: Well, it is amazing that Daniel Jones, in every year 80 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 5: that we've been here and interviewed him, regardless of the situation, 81 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 5: is the same exact guy. So I mean, I'm jealous 82 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:57,239 Speaker 5: of it. I asked him, what the hell is your secret? 83 00:02:57,600 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 5: Because you came into camp last year with your career 84 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 5: on the line, Like essentially, you had a guillotine over 85 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 5: your head in training camp. 86 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:07,519 Speaker 3: No fifth year option. 87 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 6: Right, this was it. 88 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:10,800 Speaker 5: You were either gonna be on another team as a backup, 89 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:12,640 Speaker 5: or you're gonna be the Giant starting quarterback with a 90 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 5: big contract. And here he is with the big contract. 91 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 5: He just hasn't changed at all. So it's really amazing 92 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:20,079 Speaker 5: to me that his personality remains that way. But I 93 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 5: think that's a great thing and a great characteristic be 94 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 5: a quarterback in New York. So it's always good to 95 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 5: see him. Darren Waller, I think, I mean, this guy 96 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 5: is a beast. I just hope he stays healthy. 97 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 3: How was he bigger than you thought he would be? 98 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 5: Oh my god, yeah, I mean he's six legit, six six. 99 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 5: He's big in the boomer right, we were huge boomer 100 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 5: six ' four. And then when he stood next to him, like, 101 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 5: oh my goodness, and then you know, we all saw 102 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 5: how great he was those couple of years. If you 103 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 5: play fantasy football, he was like a lock every single week, 104 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 5: so you know how talented he is. So seeing his 105 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 5: size and seeing him reinvigorated was awesome. And then Brian 106 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 5: dabole interview was just the best. And he actually does 107 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 5: his homework because he listens to us a little bit. 108 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 5: But he's got a friend who listens to us every 109 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 5: single day. So he had the intel, right, he had 110 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 5: all the intel. So we were busting jobs back and forth. 111 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 5: I threw out some bait there a couple of times 112 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 5: to see if he would take it. He would not. 113 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 5: He's very smart. But he also told me I've got 114 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 5: a midlife crisis haircut. And he wasn't wrong with that. 115 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 5: He wasn't wrong at all. I said, those of us 116 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 5: who still have hair, they'll want to do fun stuff 117 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 5: with it. 118 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 3: Is what I told him. 119 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:16,920 Speaker 5: He goes touchet so, but I think the vibe around 120 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 5: here is awesome. You can always get a feel. Last 121 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 5: year it wasn't as awesome, I'll be honest with you, 122 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:23,040 Speaker 5: and ended up having a great year. I mean, it 123 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:25,040 Speaker 5: just it felt tense. It felt a little weird with 124 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:27,479 Speaker 5: the Daniel Jones stuff in the offense, new coaching staff, 125 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 5: everybody walking on eggshells. This year, there's a confidence level 126 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 5: and a great vibe, so expectations a little bit tougher 127 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 5: of a schedule. Will see how it works out. But 128 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 5: I mean, things just feel really good around here. 129 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:39,600 Speaker 4: You know. 130 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 3: The thinking about table that I think is interesting because 131 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 3: he's fun. He jokes with you. 132 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 4: But let me tell you, dude, like he has a 133 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 4: lot of Bellichick in him. He does these pressers. He 134 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 4: doesn't give a whole lot, but. 135 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 3: He does it. But he does it with the smile. 136 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 3: Some people are kind of okay with it. 137 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 4: Right then, when guys have, like, you know, ten men 138 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 4: on the field of twelve minute on the field and 139 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 4: practice the lay game penalties, he lets guys know about it. 140 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:59,679 Speaker 4: So he seems to have struck this balance between regular 141 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 4: dude personal players like him, but he can crack the 142 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 4: whip when he needs to too. 143 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:05,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, and to be able to do that is a 144 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:08,280 Speaker 5: first year head coach last year really is amazing. And 145 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 5: I think the reason why he was able to do 146 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:13,840 Speaker 5: that is just he wit every single job going up 147 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 5: through the business and worked for so many great coaches 148 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 5: obviously Belichick, Saban and the list goes on. And then 149 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:22,480 Speaker 5: to get to that spot that he was there in 150 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 5: Buffalo and be as close as you can get to 151 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:26,920 Speaker 5: being a head coach and then having the success he had, 152 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:29,159 Speaker 5: it was just he was perfectly made. 153 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 3: Now. 154 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 5: I mean I kind of pegged him a little bit 155 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 5: wrong at the time because I was like, man, there's 156 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 5: a guy bounced around in a million different places. You know, 157 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:38,840 Speaker 5: he got a great quarterback in Josh Allen and now 158 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:41,360 Speaker 5: he's the hot coordinator, Like is he really gonna work out? 159 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 5: But what I failed to sort of realize when he 160 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 5: got that job was it he's seen it all. He's 161 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 5: seen good seasons, he's seen bad seasons, he's been he's 162 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:50,919 Speaker 5: done everything. So he was just the perfect guy at 163 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:53,920 Speaker 5: the perfect time. Now, we like Joe Judge in year 164 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 5: one too, I don't think this is gonna be a 165 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 5: similar situation, but obviously he's he knows it more than anybody. 166 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 5: I mean, last year is last year. He's got a 167 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:03,839 Speaker 5: build on that and it needs to be a consistent effort. 168 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 5: And I really do believe him and Joe Shane are 169 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 5: just they finally got it right. 170 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:10,920 Speaker 4: You will if you think the Giants are going to 171 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:12,919 Speaker 4: get back to the playoffs and be as good as 172 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 4: they were last year, maybe better. 173 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:16,360 Speaker 3: Who knows? What's the one thing you think they need 174 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 3: to be better at this year than they. 175 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:18,360 Speaker 6: Were last year? 176 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:19,920 Speaker 2: I mean just scoring touchdowns. 177 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:22,600 Speaker 5: I mean, that's such an easy thing, right, but I 178 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:25,040 Speaker 5: mean that's really it's just converting on those drives and 179 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:28,799 Speaker 5: having Daniel Jones. You don't throw thirty five forty touchdowns 180 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:31,040 Speaker 5: this year. That's what I want to see from that offense. 181 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 5: I think the defense will be good enough. I love 182 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 5: the scheme, I love Wink. Obviously there are some personnel questions, 183 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 5: but I think the pass rush is going to be spectacular. 184 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 5: I think that defensive line is going to be one 185 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:43,160 Speaker 5: of the best in football, So they'll be okay there. 186 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 5: Saquan will get his touches, that'll be fine. Just get 187 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 5: that passing offense going to be consistently top fifteen in 188 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 5: the NFL, and they could be right there with the 189 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:54,840 Speaker 5: best teams in the NFC, and they seem to have 190 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 5: added a lot of the weapons to try to make 191 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 5: that happen. Right, And then the question is is this 192 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 5: offensive line finally where it needs to be? 193 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, to do it too right? 194 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 4: Yeah? 195 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 6: And I think I think it is. 196 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:04,920 Speaker 5: I mean, you cut when, I mean, this is such 197 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:06,480 Speaker 5: an easy thing to say. When you got one of 198 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 5: the best left tackles in football, everything else just falls 199 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 5: into place. And then you want to talk about the 200 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 5: most under the radar athlete in New York sports right now, 201 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 5: it's Andrew Thomas. This guy is as top of the 202 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 5: line as you can get at the premier position in 203 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 5: the NFL, and he's just there quietly kicking butt. So 204 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 5: when you have that, you know the fear and the 205 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 5: anxiety and the adja that you have about the offensive 206 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 5: line has always quelled as long as he's healthy and 207 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 5: on the field. 208 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 4: All your thoughts on the NFC here besides those top 209 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 4: three teams San fran Philly and I guess Dallas to an. 210 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 6: Extent, right, I don't like, I mean, I don't I 211 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 6: don't know. 212 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 3: So let's move Dallas. 213 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, so talk about that next tier in the NFC 214 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:46,680 Speaker 4: after San fran and Philly or maybe you don't buy 215 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 4: the Numbers because the quarterback spot. 216 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 3: No, I'd still buy them. 217 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 5: I mean, they're just so good, they're so talented, and 218 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 5: I think that I mean, Sam Darnold could step in 219 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 5: there and win a couple of games. 220 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 3: By the way, he probably will this year. 221 00:07:57,760 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 5: Right, But I mean, of course, of course it is. 222 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 5: It is phil conference. But you know, you look at 223 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 5: like a conference like the NFC North, it sort of 224 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 5: sums up the entire conference division like the NFC North 225 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 5: sums up the entire conference. I mean, you got, you know, 226 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 5: a team that's a young and upcoming and maybe ready 227 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 5: to take a leap in the Detroit Lions. You got 228 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 5: a team that you know is gonna be mediocre and 229 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 5: maybe win a division in the Vikings. And you got 230 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 5: a team with a rookie quarterback in the in the 231 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 5: Green Bay Packer or not a rookie first year starter 232 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 5: in the Green Bay Packers. And you got Justin fieldser 233 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 5: could be up and down. There's just so many questions 234 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 5: so that that mid tier, to me, the Giants are 235 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 5: ahead of that mid tier. Nobody could tell me differently, 236 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 5: because they went to the divisional round of the playoffs 237 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 5: and ran into a buzz saw team that is just 238 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 5: farther along in the progression and then probably should have 239 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 5: won the super Bowl. So you can't just toss that out, 240 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 5: you know, And everybody says, well, look at this tea, 241 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 5: look at the one score wins, and YadA, YadA, YadA, 242 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 5: this is still a team in this conference. It made 243 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 5: to the divisional round last year. So that that middle 244 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:55,719 Speaker 5: tier for me is the Giants. If there's a you know, 245 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:58,840 Speaker 5: a top tier and a middle tier, like they're wedged 246 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:00,960 Speaker 5: right in between there, closer to the top tier. 247 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:03,839 Speaker 3: GEO, good stuff. Hey, great job with Boomer is always 248 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 3: my friend. Thanks for the time. Thanks a lot. You're 249 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 3: looking great. You're doing great, man, You looking good. This 250 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 3: is awesome. 251 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 2: It's great. 252 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:10,680 Speaker 5: You know, you're one of those guys that I don't 253 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:13,559 Speaker 5: I don't see you for like two years or a 254 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 5: year when I come to camp, and I feel like 255 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 5: when I see it's we're back to two thousand and 256 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 5: six again. 257 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:21,839 Speaker 3: Throwing their footballs at the lockers. Yeah, WFA, it's great man, 258 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 3: It's great to see you. Thanks absolutely. 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Are 269 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 7: you ready for all that life brings? 270 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:53,200 Speaker 4: And now we're joined by the one and only Salakata, 271 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 4: another one of my buddies from Wfan now. 272 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 3: The new host of the Brandon Tierney and Salakatta Show. 273 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:00,840 Speaker 3: So I just go up with the name. Very creative 274 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 3: by the way, Yeah exactly. 275 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 8: We had hard meetings about this schmel It took a while, 276 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 8: but then we just decided, Hey, let's just keep our 277 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 8: names full names and go with that. 278 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:10,079 Speaker 3: Did you arm wrestle for who was first or no? 279 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 8: I deferred to BT. 280 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 3: He's the elder. 281 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 8: I respect my elders, so he gave him top billing. 282 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 4: Age before beauty Right, Yeah, right, absolutely all right, When 283 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:21,679 Speaker 4: I say New York Giants twenty twenty three, D, what's 284 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 4: the first thing that comes to mind that you think about. 285 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:24,199 Speaker 3: Under the radar? 286 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:27,559 Speaker 8: I really feel like this team is an under the 287 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:29,599 Speaker 8: radar because it's so much talk about the Jets and 288 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 8: the hype with Aaron Rodgers, And initially, if it weren't 289 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 8: for that, I would think like, okay, naturally, step back right, 290 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 8: like last year exceeded all the expectations, probably aren't going 291 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:40,440 Speaker 8: to go as far. 292 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 2: As they did a year ago. 293 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 8: But I think because they're under the radar, you're two 294 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:47,440 Speaker 8: dable weapons for Daniel Jones. I really think the Giants 295 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:51,679 Speaker 8: could exceed expectations again this year within their own division. 296 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 3: Even what weapon do you think is going to be 297 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 3: the difference maker that they brought in? 298 00:10:57,320 --> 00:10:59,839 Speaker 8: I mean the obvious home would be Waller, right, But 299 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 8: I do, like Hyatt, thinking about the explosiveness that you 300 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 8: could have there. I just it's not necessarily about a 301 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 8: specific weapon to me, Schmelk, and obviously you know the 302 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:10,439 Speaker 8: Giants better than anybody. To me, it's about changing the 303 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 8: offense from what we saw last year was much more 304 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 8: conservative running the football, not having Daniel Jones throw it 305 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:19,719 Speaker 8: down the field. We saw him do that in his 306 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 8: first season. We haven't seen it since. I think you're 307 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:24,679 Speaker 8: gonna see a different Daniel Jones this year. So he's 308 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 8: got multiple options back at wide receiver. Now, I don't 309 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:29,719 Speaker 8: know if I could pick one, Waller would be the 310 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 8: obvious one, but I think Daniel Jones gonna be better 311 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:33,839 Speaker 8: this year and different this year. 312 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 3: I mean Waller's huge. 313 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:36,199 Speaker 4: I mean, this is a guy that at over a 314 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:38,319 Speaker 4: thousand yards two years in a row a couple of 315 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 4: years ago for the Raiders. It's a health thing, right, 316 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:42,599 Speaker 4: if he's gonna stay healthy. I mean I would be 317 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:45,079 Speaker 4: full off this chair surprised if he's not leaning this 318 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:47,720 Speaker 4: team and catches and receiving yards, right, I mean. 319 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 8: You would think he's gonna be the number one target. Now, 320 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:52,559 Speaker 8: remember two Barkley back, so they have their same It's 321 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:56,560 Speaker 8: not like they lost anything. They've added on to an 322 00:11:56,600 --> 00:12:00,959 Speaker 8: already solid foundation. Plus I love their coaches knowing to, 323 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:03,680 Speaker 8: you know, to put guys in positions to succeed, knowing 324 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:05,319 Speaker 8: how to make the most out of what they have. 325 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:08,079 Speaker 8: So I feel like now with the new weapons, it's 326 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:10,679 Speaker 8: gonna be a dynamic offense. And I would be shocked 327 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 8: if Waller wasn't a top whatever tight end, wide receiver. 328 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 8: I know you don't want to label him as a 329 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:17,200 Speaker 8: tight end, but he's gonna be a top pass catcher 330 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 8: in the NFL. 331 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:19,439 Speaker 4: Oh, he's a tight end. But they can use him anywhere, 332 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:21,200 Speaker 4: which is which is the beautiful part of it. Right. 333 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:24,560 Speaker 4: You mentioned Barkley back more role in the passing game. 334 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 4: This year will look like it looked like last year. 335 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 4: Do you think it's gonna be any different him and 336 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:29,439 Speaker 4: on that one year deal? 337 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 8: All right, Well, how about this aspect of it. Do 338 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 8: you think Daniel Jones runs the football less? 339 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:35,440 Speaker 3: Good question? 340 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 8: So if he does, and I think he will because 341 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 8: they need to keep him safe. They abused him in 342 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 8: the first half of that Viking game running the football 343 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 8: dangers don't and they knew it and dialed it back 344 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 8: a little bit in the second half. Then it worked though, No, right, 345 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:54,679 Speaker 8: but I don't think that's a you can't sustain. So 346 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 8: he'll be throwing the football deep down the field, which 347 00:12:57,200 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 8: means I think Barkley is gonna be It'll always be 348 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 8: a combination to running football and then catching pass out 349 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 8: of the backfield. But I think Barkley's gonna be running 350 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 8: the football and be the pre you know, premier option 351 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 8: for them as opposed to a combination of Daniel Jones 352 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:09,719 Speaker 8: and Barkley running it. 353 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 3: Big picture thoughts on Dable. I love the guy. 354 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 8: I mean, I absolutely love him. I didn't have a 355 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 8: chance to meet him, which was unfortunate and it was 356 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:20,320 Speaker 8: on Boomer and g O. But I love his demeanor. 357 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 8: I love his attitude. I love the results, a clear cut, 358 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 8: no messing around. 359 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:27,560 Speaker 3: He's in charge of this team. 360 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 8: I think they're gonna be better because of him. I 361 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:33,720 Speaker 8: believe they could win that division when it seems unlikely 362 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:36,840 Speaker 8: the disparity that we saw last year in the divisional 363 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:39,959 Speaker 8: round against the Eagles, because of Dabel Schmelk. I think 364 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 8: the sky is the limit. He's the right guy. Finally, 365 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 8: I thought maybe Joe Judge was gonna get it. Clearly 366 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 8: that was not the case. Dable, to me is a legitimate, 367 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 8: you just know, no doubt, legit head coach in this 368 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:50,680 Speaker 8: league final. 369 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:52,599 Speaker 4: One of the offense offensive line isn't going to be 370 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:54,679 Speaker 4: good enough for this offense to function the way you 371 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:55,599 Speaker 4: just described it. 372 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 8: Yeah, I think so. I mean, I don't know the 373 00:13:57,440 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 8: ins and outs. But we saw Thomas last year. It 374 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:01,959 Speaker 8: take a huge step forward. That's a big key, and 375 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 8: the weapons are there. So you look at the offensive 376 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 8: line now, it's gonna be even more important for this 377 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:08,840 Speaker 8: line to hold up. I guess We're gonna see how 378 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 8: it plays out, but I'm not looking at it saying, eh, 379 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 8: that's a weak link where we wore so many years 380 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:14,079 Speaker 8: in the past. 381 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 3: I feel like we've talked about this, Maybe we have it. 382 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 4: I feel like you're you like link Martindale and just 383 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 4: the way he goes about things, knowing yours. 384 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 3: He's like, maybe I like that. 385 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 8: Yeah, I do love Wing Martindale, his attitude, no nonsense guy. 386 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:29,240 Speaker 8: By the combination of Dable and him, Yeah, I mean hockey, 387 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 8: you not. And they did good things last year with 388 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 8: the defense. Look, this team was not the most talented 389 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 8: team in the league last year, so how the hell 390 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 8: did they get to the division around? Obviously they had 391 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 8: some players, but it was also about the coaches putting 392 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 8: the players in position to succeed, and I think Wink 393 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 8: does that with the defense. 394 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 3: Do you feel good about your Falcons winning the NFC South. 395 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 8: I'll tell you this, I have not paid as much 396 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 8: attention to it. But I love the head coach and 397 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 8: I like what they're doing as far as being able 398 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 8: to run the football. I don't trust the quarterback though, 399 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 8: I didn't like what I saw from him throwing the 400 00:14:57,720 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 8: football last year. 401 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 3: Now, look you can't trust him yet. But the good 402 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 3: that divisions wide open them. 403 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 8: Yeah, well the other team's sting. Yeah, I don't like 404 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 8: I don't like car so I don't like the a'ins, 405 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 8: Panthers whatever, Bucks big step back. So maybe by default 406 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 8: the Falcons could win the NFC South by running the football. 407 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 8: They need Rider to be smart as they develop them. 408 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 8: Just don't turn the ball over. 409 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 4: Absolutely on hundred percent with you. Now, for the folks 410 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 4: that might know, Sal and I got our starts at 411 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 4: fan at the same time. Yeah, we worked Giant games together. 412 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 4: He worked the board, I did the producing that you 413 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 4: are like an extended part of the Giants radio family. 414 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 6: It's kind of good that. 415 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 4: I mean, the Giants not being an FM were just 416 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 4: been weird. It's it's great to be back with you guys. Yeah, 417 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 4: I'm shying. I know the station's excited about you guys 418 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 4: doing your whole show here on Monday. And like the 419 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 4: Giants a fan have just kind of been together basically 420 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 4: honestly five years, right schmoke. 421 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 8: Honestly, I didn't even think anything of it, and then 422 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 8: I was told the news the other day, right before 423 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 8: I was about to go on the air at ten, 424 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 8: and I was like, oh, like, I just assumed that 425 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 8: it was a forever thing with the fan and the Giants, 426 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 8: and hopefully it is a for everything. 427 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 3: So yeah, it's exciting. I forgot that R and I 428 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 3: ran the board. 429 00:15:56,840 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 8: When you were the producer in studio, I was like 430 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 8: a five, and then you moved up in and I 431 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 8: think I was producer in studio for a year or 432 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 8: two before moving up. And let's see, I love those 433 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 8: doing those giant games and trying to watch the Falcons 434 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 8: on the other team as well. 435 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 3: At the same yea, we have to fd like Sally 436 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 3: know I do. We do have to pay attention to 437 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 3: the game. 438 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 4: So you know what, we have to take a break here, 439 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 4: by the way, real quick before we say goodbye. Your 440 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 4: thoughts here are just overall NFL prediction. Do you have 441 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 4: a surprise that maybe you're high on this year, that 442 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 4: maybe not all other people are. 443 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 8: I haven't really given it a ton of thought I'll 444 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 8: tell you. I mean, I know it sounds like a 445 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 8: cop out because the New York teams, but that's where 446 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 8: I'm looking like. If I think the Giants are gonna 447 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 8: win the division, that's a surprise team right there. 448 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 2: Now. 449 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 8: I don't know if they could beat the Niners, let's 450 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 8: say in the postseason. I'm not gonna go that far yet. 451 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 8: You mentioned the Falcons and the NFC South. I don't 452 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:49,240 Speaker 8: love the lines like everybody else does. 453 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 3: In the North. You look at the landscape of the NFC, 454 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 3: it's not wide open. 455 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 8: And then in the AFC, you know, with the Borrow injury, 456 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 8: that changes things. I think people expect the Ravens to 457 00:16:57,760 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 8: be good and better offense. I think the Jet defense 458 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 8: is what could potentially set them apart. So of course, 459 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:05,440 Speaker 8: how do you not like the Chiefs. I'm not gonna 460 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 8: be a believer in the Chargers never am. You know, 461 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:10,960 Speaker 8: nobody in the South really, everybody's on the Jaguars, I'm sure, 462 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 8: which is whatever, fine, but it really comes out to 463 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 8: the AFC East Chiefs. You throw on the Ravens there, 464 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:17,960 Speaker 8: and I think the Jets could win that division with 465 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:20,960 Speaker 8: that defense. Forget about Rogers, but the defense there Johnson. 466 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:22,920 Speaker 4: The podcast brought to you by Citizens, the official bank 467 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:24,920 Speaker 4: of the Giants from Game Dead. Everyday, Citizens is made 468 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 4: ready for Giant fans with insights, guidance, and solutions. Learn 469 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:29,640 Speaker 4: more at citizensbank dot com mis locata. 470 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:31,920 Speaker 8: Thank you, good luck with the new show man, good 471 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 8: luck with the pregame and postgame show. 472 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:34,600 Speaker 3: Looking forward having your back. 473 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 6: In the building. 474 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 3: I appreciate it. 475 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:38,440 Speaker 4: It's good to be back, my boyfriend back in the day, Salacott, 476 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:39,119 Speaker 4: I'm John Shmelk. 477 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 3: Will be back with more right after this. 478 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:45,200 Speaker 7: You love turf, You're good at it. So you start 479 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:49,200 Speaker 7: a turf Fizz. Business grows, your savings grow, become the 480 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:53,399 Speaker 7: most celebrated name in turf. Are you ready for all 481 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:54,119 Speaker 7: that life brings? 482 00:17:56,280 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 4: All Right, we're back apparently are going daypart by daypart. 483 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:00,359 Speaker 4: Here we let off a gray g and then we 484 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:01,119 Speaker 4: had Salakata. 485 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:03,360 Speaker 3: Now, V, how's it going. 486 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 2: I dressed up for you. 487 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:06,720 Speaker 6: I'm wearing a beautiful green button down. 488 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:08,680 Speaker 3: It's a collar. Now, you weren't green in the Giants 489 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 3: episode that that was the best movie? 490 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:11,119 Speaker 2: Was that done on purpose? 491 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 3: Maybe? Now? 492 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 4: Not green for the Eagles? I should know all so exactly, 493 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 4: and that's why I want to protect you. I don't 494 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 4: want giant fish aging you weren't green for the Eagles, 495 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:21,119 Speaker 4: because that would be it, that would be a problem. 496 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:25,200 Speaker 6: I am an die Philly to the core. Okay, Eagles sixers, 497 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:26,239 Speaker 6: Phillies hate them all. 498 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 4: So fan's doing their whole show of day of shows 499 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:32,080 Speaker 4: here at a quest. Now, are we gonna be able 500 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:33,480 Speaker 4: to cheer you up here after what's been a rough 501 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:34,159 Speaker 4: couple of months for you. 502 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:37,160 Speaker 1: Yes, the idea that I'm looking at football and I'm 503 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 1: thinking about the fall just cheers me up naturally. Anything 504 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 1: that brings me to football season makes me excited. 505 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:44,399 Speaker 3: Obviously with with with the Mets and the Yankees not 506 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:45,760 Speaker 3: not not doing so great. 507 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:48,119 Speaker 6: Oh and also the summer sucks. I hate the You 508 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 6: hate the summer too lot. 509 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:51,159 Speaker 2: This scuts ninety degrees. 510 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 4: It's you believes haven't been that bad though to you. Well, 511 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:56,080 Speaker 4: I was also in Detroit last week. I'm not sure 512 00:18:56,119 --> 00:18:58,879 Speaker 4: what was going on here last year. But all right, 513 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 4: So when you just big picture you think Giants football coming, 514 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:03,639 Speaker 4: what's the first thing that comes to mind for you? 515 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 2: Disappointment? 516 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:09,160 Speaker 3: Can you can you expand on that? Yeah? 517 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:11,440 Speaker 6: I just wanted to let that parnade for a second, 518 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:11,840 Speaker 6: I know. 519 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 3: This man, like that you're here and something else. 520 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:19,720 Speaker 1: I think last year was so ridiculously shocking, Like even 521 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:23,479 Speaker 1: the most optimistic Giant fan couldn't have imagined that they 522 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:25,719 Speaker 1: were going to be a playoff team, that they were 523 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:28,359 Speaker 1: going to win a playoff game, that Daniel Jones was 524 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:29,880 Speaker 1: going to get a long term contract. 525 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 6: Like if I would have said any of that stuff 526 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:34,159 Speaker 6: one year ago at this time, you would have had 527 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:34,880 Speaker 6: me drug tests. 528 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 4: And then we do bold predictions. I had fans calling 529 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 4: up in late all those Giants would the second round 530 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:38,919 Speaker 4: of the playoffs. 531 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 3: I like laughed at a couple. Yeah, I can't believe 532 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 3: you even got the Giants programming. I mean true, we 533 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 3: were all surprised it was and it. 534 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 1: Was incredible to watch. And everyone deserves a boot cause 535 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:50,480 Speaker 1: for what we saw last year. Brian dables coaching job 536 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:53,440 Speaker 1: was outstanding. I couldn't have been more wrong about Daniel Jones. 537 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:54,960 Speaker 1: I don't think I was out there like most on 538 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:57,879 Speaker 1: the fan. I thought he's gonna play it out. Then 539 00:19:57,960 --> 00:19:59,920 Speaker 1: Joe Shane's going to bring in his own quarterback, whether 540 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:02,439 Speaker 1: it's drafting his own or trading for a veteran. 541 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 6: There's no way he'd be here. So last year was amazing. 542 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 6: It was great, and I love what they've done during 543 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:07,680 Speaker 6: this offseason. 544 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 1: It's not like I can sit here and say I 545 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:12,359 Speaker 1: hated getting Baron Waller, I hated getting Paris Campbell, or 546 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 1: I hated their draft. I just think sometimes when expectations change, 547 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 1: it's very difficult to match those. So when I say disappointment, 548 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 1: I'm not telling you they're gonna win three games. I 549 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 1: don't think this is gonna be a disaster. I don't 550 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:27,720 Speaker 1: think Daboll's gonna turn into Eric Mangini from the Man Genius. 551 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 2: To four and twelve. 552 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:29,639 Speaker 6: I'm not suggesting that. 553 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 1: But I think it's gonna be very, very difficult to 554 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:35,359 Speaker 1: match what we saw last year. And so when you 555 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:37,200 Speaker 1: ask me, and I'm just giving you an honest ask 556 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 1: why I asked you the question, I think it's gonna 557 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:43,440 Speaker 1: be disappointing only because the bar is so high from 558 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:44,440 Speaker 1: what we saw a year ago. 559 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:46,399 Speaker 4: And it's funny what I've said the fans here and 560 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 4: I don't know if this's gonna happen or not, but 561 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:49,720 Speaker 4: I'm putting it on their radars, so they're kind of prepared. 562 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:49,919 Speaker 9: Right. 563 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 4: You could be actually a better team with more talent, yes, 564 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 4: and have a worse record, ye, just because a couple 565 00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 4: of those close games don't go your way. And by 566 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 4: the way, you're playing the AFC East instead of the 567 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:04,240 Speaker 4: AFC South. Little bit of a difference between those two divisions, 568 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:05,880 Speaker 4: no doubt, it's a little bit. It's just a much 569 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:06,920 Speaker 4: tougher road this year. 570 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 6: Well, you hit on it. If memory serves correct. 571 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 1: I think they won every single game but the Indianapolis 572 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:12,960 Speaker 1: game by one score. 573 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 3: That's correct. 574 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:15,720 Speaker 1: So you could certainly argue a lot of these games 575 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:18,960 Speaker 1: could have gone either way. In a seventeen game season, 576 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:21,200 Speaker 1: maybe the luck doesn't go your way. This year, you 577 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 1: are facing a tougher schedule. So I don't think we 578 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:27,440 Speaker 1: necessarily walk away from this season thinking boy Joe, Shanees 579 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:30,359 Speaker 1: and moron Brian ta Poles. I don't think any of 580 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:32,399 Speaker 1: that's gonna happen, but I think it's gonna be very 581 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:35,080 Speaker 1: difficult to match what we saw last year. And to 582 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 1: me as a fan, this is the way I view things, 583 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 1: whether it's the Jets, the Mets, the net whatever team 584 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:42,399 Speaker 1: I root for, I gotta match or be better than what. 585 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 2: I did last year. Otherwise it's a disappointment. Sure, that's 586 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:46,200 Speaker 2: how I viewed it. 587 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:48,919 Speaker 1: So if the Giants won ten games, made the postseason 588 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:51,680 Speaker 1: and lost in the first round, to me as a fan, 589 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:54,280 Speaker 1: I would say, yeah, that was disappointing. Now that ain't 590 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 1: something crazy because maybe you look at that and say, hey, 591 00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:58,120 Speaker 1: wait a second, and that's a pretty good year. 592 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:01,359 Speaker 2: To me, it wouldn't be last year. You were a 593 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 2: win away from the. 594 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:03,440 Speaker 6: NFC Championship Game. 595 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 1: So I gotta get to at least that point, and 596 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:08,439 Speaker 1: I think that's gonna be very difficult sledding, all right. 597 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 4: So to get to that point and maybe get to 598 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 4: the NFC title game, what needs to be different? What 599 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:17,720 Speaker 4: needs to go right for this team this year to 600 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:19,760 Speaker 4: take the next step if that happens. 601 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 6: I think that Daniel Jones was really good last year. 602 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:24,879 Speaker 1: He's got to be better, fair and there certainly they 603 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 1: have supplied him with more weapons around him for that 604 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:29,479 Speaker 1: to happen. Evan Neil's gotta be healthy and he's got 605 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:31,800 Speaker 1: to take a big step. Look Andrew Thomas. From my money, 606 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 1: and I'm biased because I watch every Giant game. I 607 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:36,159 Speaker 1: can't watch every team in the NFL all the time. 608 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 1: But for my money, Andrew Thomas is the best left 609 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:40,160 Speaker 1: tackle in the NFL. He's great, and in year one 610 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 1: would any of us have thought that. So it's a 611 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:46,439 Speaker 1: reminder that sometimes when you drafts offensive line and you're 612 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 1: not gonna get the great result immediately now, sometimes you 613 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:51,000 Speaker 1: wait for something that will never happen. 614 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:54,680 Speaker 6: Eric Flowers, I was gonna use but fine, Eric Flowers, 615 00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:57,440 Speaker 6: right about Beck. 616 00:22:57,520 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 1: The weird thing about mc kaye Beacon is he never 617 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:01,639 Speaker 1: plays last like he doesn't play football. 618 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:03,720 Speaker 6: When he plays football, he actually has been Okay, It's. 619 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 4: Funny though watching hard Knock just him standing next to 620 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:07,960 Speaker 4: Zach Wilson. What a massive human being he has the 621 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:09,280 Speaker 4: guy back then, Oh my god. 622 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:12,040 Speaker 2: That's probably why they drafted him. They saw a mountain 623 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:12,400 Speaker 2: of a man. 624 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 1: So I think even Neil taking that next step and 625 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:18,439 Speaker 1: really the offense becoming more dynamic, which Joe Shane has 626 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:20,440 Speaker 1: put themselves in a position to be. 627 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:22,480 Speaker 2: I mean, they have certainly improved this offense. 628 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 1: I think when you look at what they did during 629 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:26,640 Speaker 1: the offseason, I don't have major critiques of what they've done, 630 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 1: so I think that's gonna have to be one of 631 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:30,480 Speaker 1: the main things for them to take that next How 632 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:34,240 Speaker 1: about the defense, defensively, like can they stop the run, 633 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:35,560 Speaker 1: can they be more effective? 634 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 6: And can they beat teams in their division? Like that's 635 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:39,400 Speaker 6: the thing that we all almost forget. 636 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 3: About from that one to four and one. Yeah, now 637 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 3: it's gotta be better. 638 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 1: And that tie was to me basically a loss. That 639 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:46,520 Speaker 1: was the game they really should have won that they 640 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:50,280 Speaker 1: blew against Washington. So they've got to beat their division. 641 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:52,480 Speaker 1: They've got they have to be better in a lot 642 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:54,639 Speaker 1: of ways from last year, and that's coming off a 643 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 1: year in which they stunned all of us. And that's 644 00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:58,680 Speaker 1: to take it to the next step and kind of 645 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:00,880 Speaker 1: be in the league of the field Eagles, because that's 646 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:01,160 Speaker 1: the goal. 647 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 4: And I would say, even if you don't catch Philly 648 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:04,840 Speaker 4: this year, because we know how talented that yeah is. Yeah, 649 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 4: if you can catch Dallas, Like if you go put 650 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 4: yourself firmly in that category with Dallas and that next 651 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:11,119 Speaker 4: group of teams in the NFC, maybe we'll see what 652 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:13,320 Speaker 4: happens with the forty nine ers quarterback situation. Right, you 653 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:16,160 Speaker 4: can do that, I think even again, we'll we'll see 654 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 4: about the win total you're seeing at least that graph 655 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:21,359 Speaker 4: talent wise go up. And if you have the talent, 656 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:24,120 Speaker 4: then you have somewhere to go, no doubt. 657 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 1: And I think what certainly gives you more optimism is 658 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 1: that the NFC feels winnable. You know, after Philadelphia and 659 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:32,800 Speaker 1: San Francisco and the Niners have their own questions. Like 660 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:35,359 Speaker 1: you mentioned the quarterback situation. Is brock Perty healthy? Is 661 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 1: Trey Lance ever gonna be the guy? You look at 662 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:41,960 Speaker 1: the NFC and Minnesota certainly doesn't scare you. Detroit is 663 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:44,080 Speaker 1: everybody's hot pick, and I get it, but they've got 664 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:44,720 Speaker 1: to go prove it. 665 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 3: They're also the Detroit Lions. 666 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 6: Right at the end of the day. 667 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 5: They are. 668 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 2: That's what I remind myself about the Jets. 669 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 6: Yeah I'm pumped up, but we're the Jets. 670 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 1: So I think you look around the conference and that's 671 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 1: at least a reason to kind of convince yourself. 672 00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:58,880 Speaker 4: The NFC South's a mess. You have Geno Smith quarterbacking 673 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:00,639 Speaker 4: the Seahawks, right, I mean, and entered. Do you know 674 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:02,480 Speaker 4: what a great year last year? He was fantastic. But 675 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:04,399 Speaker 4: you're right after those two teams, I mean, this thing 676 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:05,200 Speaker 4: is wide open. 677 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 1: I think that's the one fun part is that how 678 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:10,400 Speaker 1: many seasons as we've gone into over the last five, six, seven, 679 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:13,440 Speaker 1: eight years where you can talk yourselves into a run 680 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 1: and talk about a future that's bright and think legitimately 681 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 1: about the postseason. Even last year where they made the playoffs. 682 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:21,000 Speaker 1: Like we said, none of us saw that coming. So 683 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:23,920 Speaker 1: at least we have that excitement coming into a football season. 684 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 3: Well, let me ask about the AFC. These I touched 685 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:27,200 Speaker 3: on the NFC with Sal and his Falcons. 686 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:31,960 Speaker 4: So on the other hand, Patrick Mahomes, Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen, 687 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers, Trevor Lawrence, Joshawn Watson, Russell Wilson, Tua tagove Loa. 688 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:41,040 Speaker 4: I think I got everybody one of those quarterbacks they 689 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:43,359 Speaker 4: making the playoffs, like and Justin Herbert, I forgot him. 690 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 3: That's Ted, I mean only like that's the AFC is tough, dude. 691 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:50,200 Speaker 1: Oh man, it's not gonna be easy with that said, 692 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:51,840 Speaker 1: the Jets better make the postseason. If they don't make 693 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:54,639 Speaker 1: the postseason, that is a Brooklyn Net like disaster, you 694 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:56,760 Speaker 1: know what I mean with the expectations. 695 00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:56,480 Speaker 6: That they have. 696 00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 1: I look at the AFC this way, At this point 697 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:01,919 Speaker 1: in life as a football fan, I want to win 698 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:02,520 Speaker 1: a championship. 699 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:04,480 Speaker 6: I don't want to just make the postseason, even though 700 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:05,320 Speaker 6: that'd be a big step. 701 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:05,879 Speaker 3: For the Rogers. 702 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:08,040 Speaker 1: He's your quarterback. It's Super Bowl or bus and he's 703 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:09,960 Speaker 1: only going to be here for two three years. But 704 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:12,240 Speaker 1: I look over at Kansas City. I remember last year 705 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:16,119 Speaker 1: after they lost Tyreek Hill or traded Tyreek Hill, there 706 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:18,320 Speaker 1: was this few of that, does Patrick Mahomes have enough weapons? 707 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:20,840 Speaker 3: It was one of those guys bad as you were. 708 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:25,200 Speaker 1: And the Kansas City Chiefs are like the late nineties 709 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:28,680 Speaker 1: Yankees in a way. Show me them dead, show me 710 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:31,800 Speaker 1: their body on the ground, and I'll believe they're done. 711 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 2: So you're right about. 712 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 1: Buffalo, and you're right about Baltimore, and you're right about Cincinnati, 713 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:38,240 Speaker 1: and you're right about de Sean. 714 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:38,680 Speaker 6: Watson and Clay. 715 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 1: We can go on and on and on about how 716 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,800 Speaker 1: difficult the AFC is, but really the behemoth you got 717 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:45,800 Speaker 1: to get past is Patrick Mahomes and the Kansas City Chiefs. 718 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:48,119 Speaker 2: And think about when they've lost. 719 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,760 Speaker 6: It seems like it took Flukes for them to lose. 720 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:55,399 Speaker 9: You're right and off sides against New England, a wild 721 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:59,399 Speaker 9: turn of events against Cincinnati, zero offensive line in the 722 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 9: Super Bowl, like they're difficult to. 723 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 2: Beat, and so as loaded as the AFC is. 724 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,560 Speaker 6: I look at them and say, can anyone knock them off? 725 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:09,080 Speaker 6: Can the Jets knock them off? 726 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:12,040 Speaker 4: And it's very difficult to talk myself into thinking that 727 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 4: can happen. All right, final question, you gotta get this 728 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 4: in before we say goodbye. What's the next superstar that 729 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:21,159 Speaker 4: winds up here basketball wise? And which franchise does he 730 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:23,800 Speaker 4: wind up on? Vvant had to talk Nets next year. 731 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:25,720 Speaker 2: For Donovan Mitchell Brooklyn Nets. 732 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:27,920 Speaker 3: Ooh, trade or free agency? 733 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:28,359 Speaker 9: Uh? 734 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:33,320 Speaker 1: Probably a trade at some point next season when Donovan 735 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:34,360 Speaker 1: Mitchell lets it be known. 736 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:36,040 Speaker 6: You know what, I don't really want to live in Cleveland. 737 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:38,760 Speaker 2: Cleveland, the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame doesn't do. 738 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 4: It for me. 739 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:41,200 Speaker 2: You talk up at City Field all the time. 740 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:43,080 Speaker 6: I want to be in New York. And then the 741 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:44,639 Speaker 6: Nets have more assets and they'll go get them. 742 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:47,600 Speaker 4: You talk about people around the league. No one thinks 743 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:49,359 Speaker 4: he's in Cleveland for more than one more year. 744 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:51,200 Speaker 3: No, you're right, But is it the Nets of the Knicks? 745 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 4: And all right, I'll give you three names. Which one 746 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 4: is the best chance of winding up here? Embiid Jannis, Luca. 747 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 2: Embiid Yard. I don't think any of them actually are okay? 748 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:03,760 Speaker 6: Really, I think Giannis is in Milwaukee for the rest 749 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 6: of his career. 750 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 1: I think if Luca ever really forces his way out, 751 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:10,200 Speaker 1: Mark Cuban would never send him to New York. I 752 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 1: think he would try to avoid that at all costs. 753 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:14,320 Speaker 1: That in the Lakers, I think he would say no way, 754 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 1: no how. And Joel Embiide is never getting traded to 755 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:17,680 Speaker 1: the Knicks or Nette. 756 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:20,040 Speaker 3: And that's my argument. I don't think Moray trades him 757 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:22,159 Speaker 3: in SI division. I agree with you on that. 758 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:24,400 Speaker 1: I think they're going to convince him to stay long term. 759 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:26,280 Speaker 1: But even if he decided to blow it up, it's 760 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:28,320 Speaker 1: not happening to the Knicks or Nett. So those three guys, 761 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:31,160 Speaker 1: as much as we all may fantasize about them, none 762 00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 1: of the three end up in Brooklyn or Manhattan. 763 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,200 Speaker 4: I'm setting you up to represent your Greeniar. Final question, 764 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:37,200 Speaker 4: what's the next New York championship? 765 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 3: Jake said, go. 766 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:46,600 Speaker 6: Ahead, the New York met in twoenty twenty eight. 767 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:49,440 Speaker 1: Did the Liberty count I mean, because I think they're 768 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:50,760 Speaker 1: gonna be the next New York champion? 769 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:53,320 Speaker 4: They might be, I was I was not including that, 770 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:55,640 Speaker 4: but yes, having good stuff, brother, thank you man Joy 771 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:59,080 Speaker 4: practice today. Fan's been here all day doing their shows. 772 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 4: We thank them for being with us and we're thrilled 773 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 4: to be back with them on the air again this 774 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 4: year for Evan Roberts Force Allocata for Great Gionati. 775 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:07,840 Speaker 3: I'm John Schmelt. 776 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:09,800 Speaker 4: Thanks for joining us on the Gihnsonto podcast, brought to 777 00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:11,719 Speaker 4: you by Citizens, the official bank of the Giants.