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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to this episode of The

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Speaker 1: Weekly Zeitgeist. These are some of our favorite segments from

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Speaker 1: this week, all edited together into one NonStop infotainment laugh stravaganza. Yeah, so,

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Speaker 1: without further ado, here is the Weekly Zeitgeist.

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Speaker 2: Miles.

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Speaker 1: We're thrilled to be joined in our third seat. I

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Speaker 1: have very talented writer who's written for The La Times,

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Speaker 1: Rolling Stone, the New York Times, you know, small small

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Speaker 1: publications like that. Her new book is fetishized reckoning with

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Speaker 1: yellow Fever, feminism and beauty out in the world. Now

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Speaker 1: go buy it. It's a great read, super fascinating. Please

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Speaker 1: welcome Kyler's amazing opening.

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Speaker 3: It's like I need to think of a better opening

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Speaker 3: introduction for myself, like a dramatic one.

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Speaker 2: You guys have you can bring me wherever you're going,

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Speaker 2: just like.

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Speaker 3: Be my hype man behind me.

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Speaker 2: Yeah exactly, I do. Try and bring a boom box

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Speaker 2: wherever on your shoulder, Yeah exactly. Thank you for joining us.

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Speaker 2: The book is now. Is that like huge relief? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I mean I actually got really depressed the next day.

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Speaker 3: So there's a thing called postpartum book publication because I

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Speaker 3: went and looked online and there's a ton of articles

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Speaker 3: about it.

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Speaker 1: A lot of build up, and then and then you're

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Speaker 1: like having a kid, You're just like, oh, this is it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the fun My life hasn't changed overnight. That's pretty much.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's like the same thing I think with

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Speaker 2: like working on political campaigns too. That happens to people

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Speaker 2: the day after election day because everything is leading up

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Speaker 2: to one day and then you get on the other

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Speaker 2: side of it and you're like, what wait, But.

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Speaker 3: Can you imagine you're on the losing side, because if

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Speaker 3: you're on the winning side, then you could be depressed,

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Speaker 3: but at least we won.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, on the winning side, you're kind of like, oh, man,

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Speaker 2: I like, I like didn't talk to anyone the last

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Speaker 2: two months to just get through this election or whatever.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. The book is really amazing, Kyla.

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Speaker 2: Jack and I are reading it over the weekend and

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Speaker 2: like to one another or into each other's last taking turns,

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Speaker 2: taking turns because Jack doesn't Jack doesn't know about the

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Speaker 2: Inland Empire. He doesn't know about what.

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Speaker 1: Really, I'm from all over the East coast on Midwest.

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Speaker 3: People in California don't even know about the Inland Empire.

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Speaker 1: It was a fascinating learning experience. I want to learn

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Speaker 1: about the Inland Empire.

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Speaker 2: I know, I had to explain him what the watching gangs?

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Speaker 2: Who watching gangsters work?

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Speaker 4: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: These are these are all very so cal things. But

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Speaker 3: Called Asian exclusively. Yeah, yeah, not Asian.

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Speaker 2: That's what I loved about the book. I mean, aside

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Speaker 2: from like your very specific experiences, like you know, just

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Speaker 2: dealing with you know, the sort of gender expectations and

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Speaker 2: beauty standards that come along with being not white in America,

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Speaker 2: but like the stuff about just growing up in southern

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Speaker 2: that were I'm like, it might not be for everyone,

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Speaker 2: but every single like high schools like Eduwanda go On,

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Speaker 2: the Heights go On. It was like hitting my brain.

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Speaker 3: I was like watching Yes, it was a special time, right,

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Speaker 3: it was all the people from that air are very

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was waiting for one of those Hondas for

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Speaker 1: one hundred thousand dollars.

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Speaker 2: Made me wish my Yeah. And then like working as

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Speaker 2: an import modeling, like you've had such a just you

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Speaker 2: You've touched every experience. It's a really fascinating book, and

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Speaker 2: I think people should definitely check it out, especially for

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Speaker 2: the obscure esoteric Asian gang references too.

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Speaker 3: You know everything about the important scene which no one's

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Speaker 2: Yeah right, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: You learn a lot about parts of the world you

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Speaker 1: analysis of the Little Mermaid.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I was just in Copenhagen looking at that statue.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, like I was just like just all of

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Speaker 1: Yeah, just all the ways that you know, the gap

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Speaker 3: Oh have you heard of the Asian fetish being a

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Speaker 2: Know, like yeah, yeah, I'm sure you probably getting nudged

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Speaker 1: My wife literally had a policy of like she didn't

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I just feels like not special.

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Speaker 1: funny because as I was like talking to her about

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Speaker 1: the book, she like, all these conversations that she had had,

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Some men are very weird the things they feel very

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Speaker 2: Right, yes, they live in a consequence free world.

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Speaker 1: That's right.

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Speaker 2: What is something from your search history that's revealing about

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Speaker 5: Okay, So a recent thing for my search history is

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Speaker 5: did Christopher Columbus have sex with a manatee? So there's

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Speaker 5: And it's like, clearly they were amanatees. So my question is,

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Speaker 1: So the other who's been at sea for like three months,

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Speaker 1: is that Robert Pattinson like carves a naked woman out

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Speaker 2: I really think that is. I think that's what we

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Speaker 5: When to answer the question, did Christopher Columbus have sex

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Speaker 5: with the manager, the answer is yeah, probably, Yeah, have

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Speaker 5: a lot of research. It's like, you know, chances are

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Speaker 2: Just him being like they're not as pretty as I thought,

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Speaker 2: at the end of that sentence. Yeah, but second he's like,

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Speaker 2: writing my journals.

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Speaker 1: Came to realize all at once that they weren't as

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Speaker 1: beautiful as they seemed at first. I don't know what

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Speaker 1: and suddenly I was understood.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I understood the beauty. Wow that is I mean,

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Speaker 2: I feel like, yeah, if we can't get enough people

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Speaker 2: his his explorer, his explorations, maybe it's him fucking amanity

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Speaker 2: that can get some people like, oh, he fucked humanity.

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Speaker 2: He was writing that in his journal while riding on

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Speaker 5: I gotta say, Okay, so I'm you know, as a

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Speaker 4: Underrated? Okay, this is really dumb. But for years and

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and I had a couple of phones. I have

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like on a plunger.

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Speaker 4: Usually I'm usually driving down Banana Peel Lane.

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Speaker 4: Yes, but it is also one that has enough space

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Speaker 6: Thank you for asking, Jack, And it's gonna have to

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Speaker 6: be laboo boos. I don't want a stuffed animal attach

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Speaker 6: I'm not falling victim to your beanie baby ass craze reboot. Okay,

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Speaker 6: I don't like reboots in general, and I don't give

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Speaker 6: Doesn't make sense.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, in the privacy of my own goddamn cave, like

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Speaker 6: I have no Okay, if I'm going to be I've

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Speaker 1: He's no miles.

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Speaker 6: That'd be freaky, okay, just because I researched octopuses for

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Speaker 2: I mean, I have like freaking at all.

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Speaker 6: Doesn't like I'm some freak adult stuffy house a freaky ash.

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Speaker 1: I turns around in just a roomful of stuff to

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Speaker 2: She has them all set up like it looks like

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Speaker 6: Really funny to do a special to that.

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Speaker 2: Maybe you should do that.

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Speaker 6: I'll I'll give you writing credit.

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Speaker 2: You know you have to just invite us. That's well,

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Speaker 6: Is you know you have to be inside stage.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'll wait and the wings going with my hands

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Speaker 2: Pro Wait, do you know do you have contemporaries that

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Speaker 6: Yeah, a lot of them and actually like a few

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Speaker 2: And they should be ashamed of themselves. The weighted stuff

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Speaker 2: to bear that kind of acts as a way to blanket.

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Speaker 2: Does it lay on you face down or face up?

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, Jock, I'm just trying to get that here,

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Speaker 3: This kind of perverted us question.

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Speaker 2: Like a face down?

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Speaker 6: Which way my weighted up bear is face I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I'm just like picturing a bear like laying face down, life,

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Speaker 6: I mean it's on my chest usually or in my

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Speaker 2: You know what, six pounds. I feel like that's like

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Speaker 2: That's just like just having one of contact of.

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Speaker 6: Like chest and it's like, yeah, okay. When I'm when

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Speaker 2: I wasn't trying to make it horney. I was just

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Speaker 2: He's nervously texting me right now there, He's blair mad.

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Speaker 2: Cut this out, Cut this out, Cut this out? Why

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Speaker 2: are you texting me this?

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Speaker 1: I just think it's a funny visual image a bear

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Speaker 2: You have no idea how I'm a weird though. The

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Speaker 2: does it say that?

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Speaker 6: Sometimes it doesn't speak if you can believe it.

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Speaker 2: Know what your money's on.

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Speaker 6: But just a nervous system tool that's kind of cozy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, help your limbic system out.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, absolutely, calm down. That a michdala exactly.

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Speaker 2: Bra.

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Speaker 6: Why does it make me laugh so hard? Every time

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Speaker 2: You gotta bring out terror of the god? You know

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Speaker 4: You know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: If you're not doing rain, what's it all about? What's

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Speaker 6: And she's a meditation teacher and yeah, her voice is

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Speaker 2: Really, it's like it's like the goaded NPR voice. It's

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Speaker 6: When I used to lead some online breathwork classes, I'd

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Speaker 3: Sounding for them?

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Speaker 2: Are you doing? Wait, how would you do it? Are

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Speaker 3: I can't remember, No, I can't.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: It's so long ago.

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Speaker 2: To breathe in.

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Speaker 3: Sometimes people will.

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Speaker 6: Come up to me and be at the show and

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Speaker 6: I'm always like, wow, that's so.

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Speaker 2: Weird, Like after you stand up, yeah, like I mean like.

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Speaker 6: Wow, you've seen so many different sides of me.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, genre, yeah, it doesn't matter. Love you hit the

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Speaker 2: Blairsckey Triple Crown.

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Speaker 1: That's right.

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Speaker 2: Oh, very weird, girl. Let's Uh, let's take a quick

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Speaker 1: And we're back, and yeah, there's a new gallop pole

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Speaker 1: that says the capital is is at a they started

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Speaker 1: asking about this, They didn't even think to ask about

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Speaker 2: They're like, wait, do we like capitalism?

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Speaker 1: Is this a good thing? And back then, uh, sixty

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Speaker 1: Socialism's fighting a fucking tough uphill battle in the United States, But.

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Speaker 2: Why do you way to put that tough uphill battle

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Speaker 1: With news and daily realities that make it seem like

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Speaker 2: Yeah no, how long has that one lady been in

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you see black you see black Friday videos of

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Speaker 5: like an old lady getting stabbed over a PS five

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Speaker 5: as like the person of the stabbings of the hero.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Crazy.

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Speaker 2: These people are about Dealsers will be like, my kid's

449
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Speaker 2: been talking about that too. I mean, I get it,

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Speaker 2: I get it. You're like, what about the poisoned water? Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Well, One thing I just want to highlight that you

452
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Speaker 5: brought up is, like it is so twenty ten, their

453
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Speaker 5: positive ratings for capitalism is sixty one percent. Now it's

454
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Speaker 5: fifty four percent. That means that since twenty ten, after

455
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Speaker 5: multiple financial collapses, record highunemployment, price increases, CEOs having so

456
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Speaker 5: much money that they're literally building multimillion dollar doomsday bunkers,

457
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Speaker 5: only seven percent of people have been like, wait a second,

458
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Speaker 5: capitalism has given me second thoughts.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think that's where like the people's probably

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Speaker 2: definitely they probably like that people are asking, like I

461
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Speaker 2: don't even know the definition.

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Speaker 1: It's like we do, like what do you think of water?

463
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Speaker 1: It's just yah, yeah I love it?

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Speaker 2: Do I love it? Or just like it?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I don't know, Like is it bad? They're like asking

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Speaker 2: the polster is it bad? Well, no, I'm asking you that. Oh.

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Speaker 1: But even like the people who don't know to be like,

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Speaker 1: I'm slightly less enthusiastic about capitalism, Like I feel like

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Speaker 1: we're seeing these little things like the Zorin story, which

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Speaker 1: it's you know, the not the story the actual event,

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Speaker 1: which has the story of the event of his like

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Speaker 1: you know, shocking political win has been like this guy

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Speaker 1: might be a very talented politician. It's like treated as

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Speaker 1: like a lightning bolt out of the clear blue sky. Oh,

476
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Speaker 1: instead of exactly what you would expect to happen. If

477
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Speaker 1: you know, you live in a world where every fucking

478
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Speaker 1: day there's more news about the devastating consequences of this

479
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Speaker 1: current system that we live in. So I don't know,

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Speaker 1: it's not like major progress, but I do feel like

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Speaker 1: there is a thing happening that like, you know, people

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Speaker 1: just like why the feeling in their bones is telling

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Speaker 1: them that like something is wrong around them. They might

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Speaker 1: not know the exact wording for it, but I do

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Speaker 1: feel like there is progress being made.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: So it's like in the the anime tricks when like

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Speaker 5: when the runner is just like wait a second, I

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Speaker 5: can see a numbers ahead of me or something exactly.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, it's like, what's that?

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Speaker 1: Like, there's this have you seen this VH one video

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Speaker 1: that is making the rounds? That's like I don't know

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Speaker 1: exactly what, Like it's a Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the Fabulous Life of.

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Speaker 1: Fabulous Life of And it's a segment about this New

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Speaker 1: York billionaire that I don't know. If Miles you can,

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Speaker 1: you can play it for a second year. Yeah, but

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Speaker 1: this is like where we're coming from that I just

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Speaker 1: want to play for you.

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Speaker 2: Oh man, I totally remember this like intro.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Wow, this guy seems cool.

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Speaker 2: I wonder who he could be. Yeah.

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Speaker 7: Financier Jeffrey Epstein WHOA Jeff was a high school math

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Speaker 7: teacher until he traded his blackboard for the big board

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Speaker 7: in nineteen seventy six, actually launching his own exclusive finance

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Speaker 7: fum A billionaire clients. But he just couldn't keep out

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Speaker 7: of the classroom when.

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Speaker 2: You dude, that line, that line, he just couldn't keep

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Speaker 2: that classroom.

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Speaker 5: It's just so jarring to see his story over like

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Speaker 5: the VH one behind the music.

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Speaker 2: Like record scratch. And then he did this other thing, Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 7: A new house. He bought himself an entire schoolhouse and

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Speaker 7: transformed it into the largest single residence in all of Manhattan.

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Speaker 7: Uh shopping fifty one thousand square.

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Speaker 2: Feete, Hey, somebody should look into it. Yeah yeah, oh yeah,

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Speaker 2: oh yeah, sample what the fuck?

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Speaker 1: But that's where we're coming from. Where like that was

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Speaker 1: deemed like there Later there's like a a guy from

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Speaker 1: like Paper magazine, which was like a you know, hipster

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Speaker 1: magazine that is just like, man, this guy.

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Speaker 2: I mean, when you got three planes, your life's can.

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Speaker 1: Be pretty cool, I guess, like talking about his trip

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Speaker 1: to Africa with Bill Clinton and Kevin Spacey.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, hanging out with the big wigs like Bill Clinton

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Speaker 5: and Kevin.

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Speaker 7: Spaceman and a Boeing seven twenty seven with of course

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Speaker 7: an in flight trading room.

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Speaker 2: He has a Boeing seven twenty seven. I'm just wondering, now,

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Speaker 2: what do you need a commercial five airliner four.

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Speaker 7: Good question, huh handy when you've got powerful friends to

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Speaker 7: fly around. Oh when Bill Clinton organized a week longer.

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Speaker 2: So fucking disturbing.

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Speaker 7: His personal seven twenty seven.

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Speaker 2: Wow Wow wow, wow, Wow.

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Speaker 1: That's where we're coming from. Yeah, yeah, exactly, so we're

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Speaker 1: making progress. I think everybody like from that point of view,

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Speaker 1: where like that was just the steady buzz in the

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Speaker 1: background was just like this guy's cool, he's a billionaire.

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Speaker 1: To like, now we get to see what actually goes

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Speaker 1: on behind the scenes of somebody like that.

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Speaker 5: I do gotta say, I think that this video is

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Speaker 5: showing me what Bill Clinton and Jeffrey Epstein have done together,

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Speaker 5: and that's they're just trading ideas, guys idea.

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Speaker 2: It's just ideaway man on an idea. Who needs a plane?

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Speaker 2: That song song deep Dig, A little fucking deep? Why

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Speaker 2: why do you buy us? School? I know, it's like

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Speaker 2: funny that they like kind of there are all these

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Speaker 2: like heap question.

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's no way, like during the research for

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Speaker 1: the segment didn't encounter, for instance, that one of those

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Speaker 1: planes was nicknamed the low lead.

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Speaker 2: To Express, Right, I'm the lor Leader Express. I wonder

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Speaker 2: what's going on there? Or just answering that question like

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Speaker 2: why why does he need a plane that big? Anyway?

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Speaker 1: Moving on, So those just things that people can't deny

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Speaker 1: that they're saying with their own eyes.

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Speaker 2: Are well, he was charged a year before this episod

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Speaker 2: so their is that really hard? Criminal charges in Palm

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Speaker 2: Beach in two thousand and six. This shit came out

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Speaker 2: in two thousand and seven. But hey, look he's got money,

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Speaker 2: I mean, and that's the same thing. Like it wouldn't

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Speaker 2: have even mattered because that shows like this were just

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Speaker 2: purely focused on we look at all the money, look

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Speaker 2: at what money do that. Of course they're like, I

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Speaker 2: don't know, freaking ignore the charges. He's Bill Clinton's friend,

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Speaker 2: he's got a jet.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so I feel like that that's not too far

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Speaker 1: from where our current even mainstream media would like to

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Speaker 1: keep things like oh yeah, they're just like, yeah, you know,

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Speaker 1: it's fun. They're billionaires, man, who knows what goes on there?

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Speaker 1: And then when somebody like is actually like capitalism might

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Speaker 1: be bad, we should like do some things to push

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Speaker 1: back against it. They're like, shock election result, what the

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Speaker 1: these people must be watching must be brainwashed by the

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Speaker 1: new Jurassic Park movie.

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Speaker 5: As we talked about their reaction, I am brainwashed by

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Speaker 5: your Jurassic Park movie.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, that is fair.

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Speaker 1: Those are explanation for the Zorammdani. When is uh all

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Speaker 1: these people must be you know, it's from watching all

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Speaker 1: these Hollywood movies with socialist message.

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Speaker 2: They're like, they think he's a velociraptor. I better vote

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Speaker 2: for him. I don't want him to attack me. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean like this goes along with like you know,

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Speaker 2: in the US now, our rights are just rapidly eroding,

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Speaker 2: and we have an administration that is just hell bent

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Speaker 2: on redefining what freedom even means in like any context

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Speaker 2: for every person. And luckily we have an ill equipped,

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Speaker 2: naive and frightened opposition party in the Democrats, to essentially

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Speaker 2: piss themselves as they pray for some kind of well

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Speaker 2: timed blood clot to happen.

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Speaker 1: I think that's all they've got right now. Oh you

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Speaker 1: currently the mainstream you.

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Speaker 5: Know who I think is going to solve all this

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Speaker 5: this Cuomo?

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Chris Cuomo Andrew get the younger Cuomo, the

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Speaker 2: cooler one. But yeah, they're currently the Democratic Party is

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Speaker 2: just ever since election day, they have just been chugging

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Speaker 2: advice on being more centrist as a way to fight

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Speaker 2: back and win voters, and it's essentially operating on the

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Speaker 2: same like bullshit idea that like fighting for people's rights

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Speaker 2: forcefully was too woke and not even forcefully, I shouldn't

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Speaker 2: even say that that merely talking about the lack of

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Speaker 2: rights people have in this country was too woke and

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Speaker 2: cost them the election. And they're saying that, look, we

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Speaker 2: just need to go back to the status quote talking

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Speaker 2: points in language. So in Politico they got this memo

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Speaker 2: that was shared that was being circulated amongst democratic circles

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Speaker 2: from this you know, centrist democrat think tank, the Third Way,

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Speaker 2: and they're just a terrible organization, and they their whole

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Speaker 2: thing is like they put out a list of forty

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Speaker 2: five work quote forty five words and phrases they want

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Speaker 2: Democrats to avoid using, alleging the terms a quote wall

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Speaker 2: between us and everyday people of all races, religions and ethnicities.

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Speaker 2: It's a set of words that the Third Way suggests

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Speaker 2: quote people simply do not say. Yet they hear them

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Speaker 2: from Democrats right, these terms. It's all messaging, man, It's

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Speaker 2: it's got to be messaging. It can't be the thing

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Speaker 2: that they're saying. It has to be how they're saying it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I just think it's funny that essentially what they're

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Speaker 5: saying is like, look, you can talk about whatever you want.

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Speaker 5: We just think could be really make Middle America more

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Speaker 5: up in your ideas if you sprinkled a few slurs

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Speaker 5: and yeah like that or some f bombs.

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Speaker 2: I mean a lot of these terms just think sound

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Speaker 2: like things that wealthy people who are in control if

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Speaker 2: things are tired of hearing about. Is what it sounds like.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, and I mean some of it, like stakeholders.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't mind if people stopped saying stakeholders all the time.

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Speaker 5: But like you know, I think the only thing my

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Speaker 5: friends are talking about stakeholders stakeholder.

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Speaker 1: That's like business speak. Yeah, yeah, that's like CEO talk.

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Speaker 2: Here are some of the terms, Okay, privilege, violence as

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Speaker 2: in environmental violence dialogue, just like the things that they

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Speaker 2: have that they're being accused of. Yeah, yeah, triggering, othering, microaggression,

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Speaker 2: holding space, body shaming, subverting norms, what subverting norms? Systems,

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Speaker 2: systems of oppression? Culture? About that, dude, cultural appropriation.

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Speaker 8: We gotta shot the overtin window, existential threads to the climate, democracy, economy,

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Speaker 8: radical transparency, stakeholders, the unhoused, food insecurity, housing insecurity people,

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Speaker 8: person who immigrated, birthing person cisgender dead naming, heteronormative patriarchy.

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Speaker 2: Lgbt Q i A plus, bipoc ally ship, incarcerated people,

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Speaker 2: involuntary confinement. That's just a that's just a little sample

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Speaker 2: of what they're they're talking about. Like it sounds like

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Speaker 2: also a lot of these things are tied to, you know,

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Speaker 2: societal ills that we're trying to wrect.

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Speaker 5: I think that that's like part of my issue is

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Speaker 5: like is it is it that they don't like the

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Speaker 5: word useag or they just like stop talking about LGBTQ

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Speaker 5: issues in bipoc people, you know, Right.

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Speaker 2: It depends on your flavor, you know what I mean. Like,

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Speaker 2: this is one of the third way executives said, quote,

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Speaker 2: we are doing our best to get Democrats to talk

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Speaker 2: like normal people and stop talking like they're leading a

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Speaker 2: seminar at Antioch. Right. We think language is one of

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Speaker 2: the more of the central problems we face with normy

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Speaker 2: voters signaling that we are out of touch with how

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Speaker 2: they live, think and talk. Okay, First of all, they

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Speaker 2: offer no alternate options for how to speaking, so what

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Speaker 2: are you fucking saying? Also, let's be more direct and

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Speaker 2: actually address the problems that are.

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Speaker 1: Facing these things. Maybe I could get behind that and

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Speaker 1: like just use normal words to do it, because I

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Speaker 1: do think like in some way, in the same way

665
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Speaker 1: we talk about like obscure language being used to like

666
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Speaker 1: make it so that economic shit is like confusing and

667
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Speaker 1: you can't understand what's going on, I do feel like

668
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Speaker 1: sometimes people use like obscure language to academics, Yeah yeah,

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Speaker 1: academic things, academic language to address these things that are

670
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Speaker 1: actually like problems that they don't plan on addressing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Yeah.

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Speaker 5: It seems like basically what they're asking for is instead

673
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Speaker 5: of saying the unhoused have food insecurity, you should say

674
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Speaker 5: bums be hungy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah exactly. It's truly like they like they're basically freaked

676
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 2: out by people saying trans people deserve rights and like

677
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Speaker 2: that we stopped again calling unhoused people bums and hobos

678
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:24,839
Speaker 2: or some shit, right, And I look, I agree there

679
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 2: is something cringe about hearing certain democrats evoke kind of

680
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:31,200
Speaker 2: like this language, But it's not because like I don't

681
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 2: think this is a uh, this isn't a vernacular issue. Okay,

682
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:37,920
Speaker 2: this is like a fucking authenticity issue because when the

683
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:42,239
Speaker 2: people bring stuff up like food insecurity or inequality, housing inequality,

684
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Speaker 2: I think the fact that they like they're not even

685
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Speaker 2: putting forward policies that even remotely address these things, Yeah,

686
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:51,319
Speaker 2: it just sounds hollow. So more than that, people are like,

687
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 2: they say stuff like Dud's bullshit. People are just tired

688
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 2: of hearing them say shit they don't actually follow through

689
00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 2: on because plenty of people if you said we need

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Speaker 2: you know, you need to make houses cheaper or address

691
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 2: housing insecurity or food, people are like, yeah, that's right,

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Speaker 2: that's intersecting with my life. And again, I think the

693
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 2: times we're in right now, it calls for like a

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Speaker 2: radical departure from the status quo, which again is something

695
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:17,840
Speaker 2: this party is fatally committed to.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, it does feel like there is something

697
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Speaker 5: to the idea of like being like, you know, being

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Speaker 5: a little bit more relatable and how that you talk.

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Speaker 5: You know, like that's why like one of the reasons

700
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Speaker 5: people have Tim Walls so much is that like he

701
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,680
Speaker 5: seems like a dude. But it's like it doesn't feel

702
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Speaker 5: like the purpose of this is that. It feels like

703
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Speaker 5: the purpose of this is just like stop stop talking

704
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Speaker 5: about trans rites.

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Speaker 2: You know, like, yeah, well, what they're doing is because

706
00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 2: you hear all the time the talk about quote the

707
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Speaker 2: groups is how the establishment Democratic Party talks about They

708
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:46,840
Speaker 2: talk about activism, and they say the groups they're getting

709
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 2: up our ass about fucking not defending the environment or

710
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:55,480
Speaker 2: climate degradation or you know, addressing unhoused people. It's like,

711
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Speaker 2: oh my gosh, they're so noisy. So this is basically

712
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Speaker 2: saying get rid of And these are all the groups.

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Speaker 2: The people who are talking about radical transparency in our government,

714
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Speaker 2: that's an activist group. There's an activist block talking about

715
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:12,359
Speaker 2: systems of oppression. That's group talk. Cultural appropriate that I'm

716
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:14,920
Speaker 2: tired of hearing from people of color about this. Let's

717
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,920
Speaker 2: we don't like, let's exclude them. And that's how this reads.

718
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Speaker 2: It's not about actually addressing any of this shit. Yeah,

719
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 2: and like with policy, because yeah, you can I can

720
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:27,920
Speaker 2: totally see how you can say, let's stop saying housing insecurity,

721
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:31,759
Speaker 2: let's say affordable housing, or like, hey, let's make shit

722
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Speaker 2: cheaper to talk about the right, and you know, like

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Speaker 2: There's a tweet where some centrist dem was like crying

724
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Speaker 2: over the fact that progressives had like a charismatic candidate

725
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:44,879
Speaker 2: in Zorn Mumdani, and like they're like, We're like, why

726
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 2: can't we have someone that captures the public's imagination like

727
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:52,239
Speaker 2: Zorin does but for centrism they said that shit like

728
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Speaker 2: they do.

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Speaker 5: And whenever I think of his ideas, I'm like, wow,

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Speaker 5: thanks for painting the picture, dude.

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Speaker 2: Yeah wow, so fucking sucks and good yeah, like, hey,

732
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 2: fuck with read the fucking room. People aren't following Mamdani

733
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:12,279
Speaker 2: because he's like Riz Khalifa out here just activating people's Like,

734
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 2: it's because he's passionate about talking about fucking inequality and

735
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 2: some of the policy prescriptions people can actually connect in

736
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 2: their brains to how it will affect their own lives,

737
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:23,400
Speaker 2: rather than be.

738
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Speaker 1: Like, can we find somebody with the suave charisma of

739
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:28,959
Speaker 1: Bernie Sanders?

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Speaker 2: What are you talking about? It's just he just says

741
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:35,960
Speaker 2: the thing that people want to be said.

742
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it doesn't matter how he fucking says it.

743
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Speaker 2: He's just saying the thing. Yeah. There's just like there's

744
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 2: even like another quote from one of these think tank

745
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:49,680
Speaker 2: people where they're just like, you know, like the so

746
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:52,279
Speaker 2: much of it. Essentially, like the way to push back

747
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:56,280
Speaker 2: against Republicans is to first agree with their flawed premise

748
00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:59,399
Speaker 2: that they're putting out to debate over, agree with that,

749
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:03,920
Speaker 2: and then debate within that flawed premise or that context

750
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 2: that actually speaking truth to power, like that's their whole thing.

751
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:11,840
Speaker 2: So like, for example, that the federal siege of DC,

752
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:15,440
Speaker 2: they're like, well, we don't want people are gonna get

753
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 2: the idea that Democrats don't care about crime if they're

754
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:21,719
Speaker 2: against what Trump is saying. Because Trump is saying they're

755
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 2: going in because of the crime. It's like, but that's bullshit,

756
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:27,440
Speaker 2: that's not why you're there. Be very easy to point

757
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 2: that out exactly. I would say that they're shifting the

758
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:32,799
Speaker 2: Overton window, but I don't want the Democratic police to

759
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 2: arrest me. It's just so wild too. It's like, yeah,

760
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 2: we're gonna police speech as a way to yeah, right,

761
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 2: recapture our voice. That's more realistic in line, It's like,

762
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:43,879
Speaker 2: do they really think too that people who don't live

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Speaker 2: in like metropolitan areas or like larger cities aren't being

764
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Speaker 2: affected by things like housing, insecurity, or food insecurity.

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Speaker 1: Like that's just city talk or some shit. Joey, could

766
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:56,279
Speaker 1: you translate that for me?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, hobos be hungy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the boat sorry, bo's be hung. That was a

769
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Speaker 2: Republican thing. Now actually I think that way. Are you

770
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 2: running for Senate because I could, You've got my boat.

771
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 2: This guy tells it like it is like so fucking wild.

772
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 2: And again, like we talk all the time about crime,

773
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Speaker 2: it's like like conceding this idea or seeing this idea

774
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:22,280
Speaker 2: like crime is just a thing like people of color

775
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:25,319
Speaker 2: do in cities, rather than being like, you know, this

776
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 2: is like the result of having no financial recourse or

777
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:30,680
Speaker 2: stability in your communities, like you have to resort to

778
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 2: like extra legal options to do things like that. That

779
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 2: that's one thing, but again that's a headier idea of

780
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:38,440
Speaker 2: to wrap your head around, and I think that's what

781
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:41,480
Speaker 2: they're also trying to like avoid generally. It's like we

782
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:44,239
Speaker 2: can't we can't just stop, we can't keep explaining these

783
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 2: kinds of things. Fine, but you can still you can

784
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 2: still espouse these same values in a way that maybe

785
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 2: doesn't sound as academic to just say, like stop talking

786
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:56,440
Speaker 2: about this at all. I think just really sort of

787
00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 2: reveals that their whole thing is like we're trying to

788
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:02,360
Speaker 2: haul all progress here. We're trying to literally need to

789
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 2: go back to like nineteen eighty eight.

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Speaker 1: You've had the charismatic people for centrism. You had you know,

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00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:14,719
Speaker 1: Barack Obama. He was so charismatic. He used the language

792
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 1: of the left with like hope and change, and you know,

793
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 1: just had the energy of somebody that was actually going

794
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:27,279
Speaker 1: to change things. And then he laundered that energy into

795
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 1: fucking you know, centrism that didn't go anywhere. So now

796
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:34,440
Speaker 1: like it's it's like, you know, people who have had

797
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:38,239
Speaker 1: we've had that before, and now we're inoculated against it

798
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 1: and it doesn't fucking work anymore. Yeah, So like that's

799
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:44,439
Speaker 1: why there's no more like everybody lived through that. There's

800
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 1: like a major financial crisis. He swept to power with

801
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 1: like language of like hope and change, and like you know,

802
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:57,479
Speaker 1: then proceeded to bail out big banks, and now people

803
00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:00,400
Speaker 1: are like kind of inoculated against that. So that there's

804
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:02,880
Speaker 1: your fucking problem, and now you actually have to do

805
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 1: the fucking change, uh, and less less on the hope.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

807
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 5: I think I've got an answer to all of this,

808
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:13,360
Speaker 5: and that's getting the endorsement of Megan McCain.

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00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:22,879
Speaker 2: Triangulation if Megan McCain likes it, right, Megan McCain, Oh,

810
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 2: how hard do you think.

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Speaker 1: They're lobbying Barack Obama to run again in the next election.

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00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 2: I feel like just to be like, fucking all bets

813
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:33,399
Speaker 2: are off, you know, yeah, yeah, you can do it.

814
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 2: Why don't you do it? Yeah?

815
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Speaker 1: I feel like that's probably where we're headed. Like, if

816
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:41,240
Speaker 1: they have their way, obviously, I couldn't imagine.

817
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:43,360
Speaker 5: How do you think they're lobbying for Joe Biden to

818
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:46,399
Speaker 5: run again? You only got one term, you can get

819
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:46,879
Speaker 5: another one.

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00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:53,399
Speaker 2: Saying I'm just saying, with Obama as vice president, we're

821
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Speaker 2: look into the future and Obama's your main Surian candidate.

822
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:59,440
Speaker 2: If Biden goes down that you get Obama again. Biden

823
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:02,399
Speaker 2: goes oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Obama might have had two

824
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:05,320
Speaker 2: terms as president. He said zero terms this vice president.

825
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Speaker 1: Thank you.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, let's take a quick break and we'll be right back,

827
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Speaker 9: and we're back.

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Speaker 2: I mean, there's so many reasons this might be one

829
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Speaker 2: of our last gentlemen, It's been a privilege and an

830
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:32,359
Speaker 2: honor podcasting with you this evening. Yeah, now get out

831
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:33,360
Speaker 2: our violins.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, can just play like shit because I don't know

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00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:37,920
Speaker 1: how to play the violin.

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Speaker 2: That would be amazing if like one of the people

835
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:44,919
Speaker 2: was just like, sorry, I'm freaking out a little bit.

836
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Speaker 4: Sorry.

837
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Speaker 1: Also I'm not very good.

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Speaker 2: Do you know this? The fucking ship is really listing?

839
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:55,120
Speaker 2: Oh man, are we still gonna play? My hands are

840
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 2: so fucking sweaty right now. How are you guys playing?

841
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 4: Does they won't have an scored?

842
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:04,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, it'd be much easier if I can just play something,

843
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:08,239
Speaker 2: some kind some chamber of music. But yeah, I only

844
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:12,919
Speaker 2: say that and maybe flippantly, maybe sincerely because AI. I mean,

845
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Speaker 2: it sounds like they're gearing up to take over the

846
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 2: podcasting world because the Hollywood Reporter recently had a piece

847
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 2: where they spoke with the people behind Inception AI, and

848
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:25,879
Speaker 2: they make just a fuck ton of AI podcasts. I'll

849
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:27,919
Speaker 2: get to the numbers in a second. And they try

850
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 2: to frame this article like in the beginning, like, god,

851
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:33,280
Speaker 2: are people aren't like networks tired of paying like humans

852
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 2: to talk, or like paying celebrities like these crazy deals?

853
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Speaker 2: I do get what's the.

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Speaker 1: Most appointing, what's the most annoying part of podcasts having.

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Speaker 2: That's the worst fucking part, am I right, ladies, this

856
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:55,440
Speaker 2: year is so random. But anyway, the CEO of this

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Speaker 2: AI company is a former exec from Wondery, another podcast network,

858
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Speaker 2: and the Jack alluded to her like Facebook post that

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Speaker 2: she put it out to like announce this thing. Hey,

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Speaker 2: this is the full part. I'm thrilled to emerge from

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Speaker 2: stealth and share the public debut of Inception Point AI,

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00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 2: the company I joined as co founder and CEO this summer.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, just to what an.

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Speaker 2: Opening sorry emerge from still, to emerge from stealth and

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Speaker 2: share this like is such a great way to open

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Speaker 2: any work of social media.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I can join as a co founder.

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Speaker 2: I think it's it's because someone with a fuck ton

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Speaker 2: of money goes, Hey, we'd love for you to be

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Speaker 2: the face of this thing, to give us some credibility.

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Speaker 2: You want to be co founder, we'll make ceo. Yeah,

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00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 2: because also, like I guess, I guess I haven't heard

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00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 2: that phrase emerge from stealth before, but goddamn little little

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Speaker 2: wonky use of that word. Thrilled to take off my

875
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:55,200
Speaker 2: ghost protocol hood and reveal that I'm that I've joined

876
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 2: an AI podcast company goes on. As Jack said, we

877
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 2: believe that in the near future, half of the people

878
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:05,840
Speaker 2: on the planet will be AI. That's when my eyes

879
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 2: rolled into the back of my head and I go,

880
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 2: we're cooked that You if their people sip in the

881
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:15,560
Speaker 2: AI kool aid? This hard? I mean, fucking yikes. She

882
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:18,000
Speaker 2: goes on to say, we're bringing these people to life,

883
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:21,640
Speaker 2: and we're bringing the next generation content business model, all

884
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:23,960
Speaker 2: powered by AI. In the process, we built what we

885
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:27,920
Speaker 2: believe could be the first AI talent management agency with

886
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:31,960
Speaker 2: an extensive roster of fake ass people we created with algorithms.

887
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:34,480
Speaker 4: And that's that's been a thing already too.

888
00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:38,279
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, we've had these voices, these voice models being

889
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 2: created and things like that, but now they're really trying

890
00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:43,640
Speaker 2: to like brand each one and be like and they

891
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:45,719
Speaker 2: do all kinds of stuff. So their whole model is

892
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:49,560
Speaker 2: essentially to flood the zone with shit podcasts, but because

893
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:52,160
Speaker 2: their overhead is so low, they can make a profit

894
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:55,520
Speaker 2: on a laughably small number of listens. This is from

895
00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:57,680
Speaker 2: the higher report quote. The company is able to produce

896
00:46:57,680 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 2: each episode for one dollar or less, depending on length

897
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:04,560
Speaker 2: and complexity, and attached programmatic advertising to it. This generally

898
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:07,200
Speaker 2: means that if about twenty people listen to that episode.

899
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:10,600
Speaker 2: The company made a profit on that episode without factoring

900
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:14,359
Speaker 2: in overhead inception. Point Air has already made more than

901
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:19,080
Speaker 2: five thousand shows across its network and produces more than

902
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:24,719
Speaker 2: three thousand episodes a week. Wow, and yeah been up

903
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:27,080
Speaker 2: for like a couple of years, which does again beg

904
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:31,040
Speaker 2: the question of joining as a co founder two years in.

905
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:36,279
Speaker 2: It's good negotiating tactic. Really, I'm going to see.

906
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:40,200
Speaker 1: This being just like like a nonstarter because I do

907
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:43,560
Speaker 1: think that the thing people look for from podcasts is humanity.

908
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:46,920
Speaker 1: It's like a thing that like they're not just necessarily

909
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:49,840
Speaker 1: looking for like some quick way to get a voice

910
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:52,719
Speaker 1: facts shoveled into their brain. I think a lot of

911
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:55,799
Speaker 1: the time you could read an article if you wanted that,

912
00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:57,480
Speaker 1: or like have an article.

913
00:47:57,160 --> 00:47:57,640
Speaker 2: Read to you.

914
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:01,320
Speaker 1: But I could also see that is kind of ruining

915
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:04,600
Speaker 1: things because they're going to be flooding the zone with

916
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:05,600
Speaker 1: so much shit.

917
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 4: That's the that's the part right there, that's the Amazon thing.

918
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:14,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's going to be so many bad podcasts indistinguishable

919
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:21,760
Speaker 1: from our bad podcast but completely you know, flooding everything.

920
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:23,600
Speaker 2: There will be like five different podcasts.

921
00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:25,520
Speaker 1: The good news is like, this is not how people

922
00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:28,239
Speaker 1: like people don't find podcasts by being like, all right,

923
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:33,000
Speaker 1: I'm going to go to uh ai and search for

924
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 1: a topic that I think I want to know about,

925
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:39,520
Speaker 1: and then you know, people find out about podcasts and

926
00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:41,040
Speaker 1: then become followers.

927
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:44,520
Speaker 2: Some do, apparent according to them, apparently because their whole

928
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:47,040
Speaker 2: thing set up is cool. Podcast topics are selected with

929
00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:50,360
Speaker 2: the help of a based on Google and social media trends,

930
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 2: and then the team may launch five different versions of

931
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:56,440
Speaker 2: the show with different titles to see what performs the best.

932
00:48:56,719 --> 00:49:00,840
Speaker 2: The podcasts are often titled after simple seos search terms,

933
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:05,520
Speaker 2: such as Wales, Wales, Yeah, it's I was. I went

934
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:09,960
Speaker 2: to One of our most popular episode is Whales is Whales?

935
00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:11,880
Speaker 4: They got whales?

936
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:16,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, I went to there. I went to their

937
00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:18,880
Speaker 2: website to just look at what their shows are called,

938
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:23,239
Speaker 2: and it's shipped like this diddy verdict the British monarchy,

939
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:28,480
Speaker 2: Like this one's crazy AI and the climate crisis. Are

940
00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:30,520
Speaker 2: you fucking serious You're.

941
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 1: Doing it with AI and thus contributing to the climate crisis?

942
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:35,640
Speaker 2: Yeah?

943
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:40,160
Speaker 1: Like what is that one talking about the assassins?

944
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:50,040
Speaker 2: Bourbon Betty Betty, Benny Boop, Chaos, Chuck MANGIONI Forever China,

945
00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:57,480
Speaker 2: Communism creating, there's Creatine. Are these all podcasts? Are these

946
00:49:57,560 --> 00:50:00,600
Speaker 2: episodes of the podcast? These are series? Tell me a one,

947
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:02,200
Speaker 2: I'll click on it and we can here, we can

948
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:02,880
Speaker 2: listen to one.

949
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:06,640
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't want to hear socialism.

950
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:09,880
Speaker 2: Oh this socialism where they take it down. Okay, let's see.

951
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:12,880
Speaker 2: This is uh, this is this is here what they got. Oh,

952
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:15,480
Speaker 2: I'm not signing up you fucking oh yeah, you need

953
00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:16,080
Speaker 2: to pay for it.

954
00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:20,239
Speaker 10: Let's see, which simply means I never forget a vote,

955
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:23,720
Speaker 10: a quote, or a constitutional clause. This is no ego,

956
00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:29,280
Speaker 10: no pack money, just pure relentless recall. Tonight, we're tackling

957
00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:34,000
Speaker 10: one of the most misunderstood, maligned, and frankly butchered concepts

958
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:36,960
Speaker 10: in American political discourse, socialism.

959
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:41,360
Speaker 4: But you here's my question. Though you can like and

960
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:43,520
Speaker 4: maybe it will get better to where you really can't,

961
00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:45,200
Speaker 4: but you can tell that that is AI.

962
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:49,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well they're also they're trying to they're

963
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:52,399
Speaker 2: sort of like trying to be quote unquote ethical where

964
00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 2: they have the hosts up top say their AI yeah,

965
00:50:56,719 --> 00:50:58,560
Speaker 2: and one of the founders is like, look, dude, I'm

966
00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:00,920
Speaker 2: not trying to have like create like these models that

967
00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:04,520
Speaker 2: people are gonna have like deep relationships with because like

968
00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:07,719
Speaker 2: this they see it as a completely different lane than

969
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:10,560
Speaker 2: human hosted podcast. But like when you look at it,

970
00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:14,200
Speaker 2: you're like, you're doing you're you're talking about subjects that

971
00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:16,960
Speaker 2: humans currently make podcasts about. I don't know how you

972
00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:18,640
Speaker 2: You're like, well, no, it's not meant to replace that

973
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:21,520
Speaker 2: at all. Like it's just we're just doing the same thing.

974
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:26,160
Speaker 2: They are out of insane scale and maybe people will

975
00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:30,280
Speaker 2: listen to it, like you know, they're they have the hosts.

976
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:34,360
Speaker 2: The names are really fucking dumb, Like for the food podcast,

977
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:36,200
Speaker 2: I don't know what you're talking about. I think these

978
00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:38,560
Speaker 2: names are totally normal. Okay, what name the host of

979
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:39,920
Speaker 2: the food podcast Jack? All right?

980
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:43,640
Speaker 1: The food podcast is named uh oh. I actually love her.

981
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:49,920
Speaker 1: I actually follow her on lots of different Claire Delish

982
00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:53,080
Speaker 1: and then of course my favorite source for gardening info.

983
00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:59,400
Speaker 2: My health mm hmm, Nigel this, yes, and the fucking

984
00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:02,640
Speaker 2: like the AI models are like it sounds like the

985
00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:05,160
Speaker 2: same ones you hear on TikTok basically when people use

986
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:07,960
Speaker 2: AI to caption shit. But again, I believe it's the

987
00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:11,640
Speaker 2: nominative determinism Noma. Yeah, oh yeah, like one of the

988
00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 2: finance one was like penny power or something like that,

989
00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:20,640
Speaker 2: quite dumb, goofy shit. But again, I mean I don't know,

990
00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:23,840
Speaker 2: like they will it replace it. I don't know, but

991
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:26,440
Speaker 2: I think like to your point, Alan, like it's bad

992
00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:29,800
Speaker 2: when you have someone putting out three thousand episodes a

993
00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:33,560
Speaker 2: week of indistinguishable bullshit, because that just makes it harder

994
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:36,719
Speaker 2: for anyone who actually wants to podcast to be to

995
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:40,319
Speaker 2: have to like there's now it's just all noise and now, yeah,

996
00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:41,480
Speaker 2: that's finally good ones.

997
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:43,839
Speaker 4: That's like a big part of the Amazon's thing. It's

998
00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:46,879
Speaker 4: like it's not that they just are undercutting and they

999
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:50,640
Speaker 4: sell the product cheaper, it's that they've also like they've

1000
00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:53,800
Speaker 4: taken away a viable way for people to make money,

1001
00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:58,040
Speaker 4: Like opening a small business to like sell goods is

1002
00:52:58,360 --> 00:53:02,680
Speaker 4: a bad business idea now because of Amazon. And so

1003
00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:05,600
Speaker 4: that yeah, that definitely And I mean I will say this,

1004
00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:09,480
Speaker 4: podcasters are truly some of the sickest people, and they

1005
00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:14,560
Speaker 4: in the sphere of the Internet or whatever.

1006
00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:16,120
Speaker 2: Like it would be better if they went away.

1007
00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:18,680
Speaker 1: What I So, they're still.

1008
00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:22,279
Speaker 4: Going They're still gonna like go after it. But I

1009
00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:24,040
Speaker 4: and it is the type of thing where you do

1010
00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:26,960
Speaker 4: just think like, well, wait, but what if there are

1011
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:30,319
Speaker 4: people that aren't just that discerning and they're like, oh,

1012
00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:33,400
Speaker 4: I'm listening to this, you know, AI podcast and they

1013
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:35,759
Speaker 4: don't really they don't care one way or the other.

1014
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:39,480
Speaker 1: Right, they were about to on the socialism one. I

1015
00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:42,560
Speaker 1: could hear the hosts leading into so pour yourself a

1016
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:45,080
Speaker 1: glass of your favorite bourbon or something like that, and

1017
00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:47,799
Speaker 1: I was just like, oh, that is like that. There's

1018
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:50,880
Speaker 1: a certain type of like medium tier podcast that like

1019
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:55,160
Speaker 1: I've accidentally listened to where that's like the human element

1020
00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:58,320
Speaker 1: is like, so, pour yourself a favorite glass of bourbon.

1021
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:01,880
Speaker 1: I've got mine right here, right and we're gonna dig in,

1022
00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:04,880
Speaker 1: you know. So maybe, yeah, maybe this is gonna hit

1023
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:05,840
Speaker 1: hit with.

1024
00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:08,200
Speaker 2: The people who like listen to whatever those shows are.

1025
00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:11,120
Speaker 2: We gotta hit, we gotta hit. I mean, it's fun.

1026
00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:13,560
Speaker 2: The co founder of it, who I imagine is the

1027
00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:16,400
Speaker 2: actual founder of it or the person who started, he

1028
00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:20,520
Speaker 2: got into this because during the pandemic, he just started

1029
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:24,239
Speaker 2: like reading like weather reports and shit or no, he

1030
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:28,200
Speaker 2: was reading daily CDC reports and then and then a

1031
00:54:28,239 --> 00:54:30,719
Speaker 2: bunch of people started reloading it yeah, just because he

1032
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:33,279
Speaker 2: was just just reading off a cdcreport and he's like, oh,

1033
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:37,359
Speaker 2: okay now, and then he did like weather robots did this, yeah,

1034
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:39,279
Speaker 2: and he's like, whoa weather report? And then he was like,

1035
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:41,560
Speaker 2: there's a quote from me. He's like, you know, talking

1036
00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:43,800
Speaker 2: about how people who are really like if you have

1037
00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:46,520
Speaker 2: crazy allergies, you look at like the Pollen Report and stuff.

1038
00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:48,440
Speaker 2: He said, quote, we might make a pollen podcast and

1039
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:51,000
Speaker 2: maybe only fifty people listen to, but I'm already at

1040
00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:54,000
Speaker 2: unit profitability on that, so then maybe I can make

1041
00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:58,200
Speaker 2: five hundred pollen Report podcasts like these people don't. This

1042
00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:00,520
Speaker 2: is what happens when people had never made a fucking

1043
00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:01,319
Speaker 2: thing in their life.

1044
00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:04,479
Speaker 1: Why have we never once on this on the many

1045
00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:08,040
Speaker 1: many hours of the show used the phrase unit profit about.

1046
00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:12,480
Speaker 2: The cool and soulful term.

1047
00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:16,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, that that founder and you know he is the

1048
00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:19,040
Speaker 1: actual founder because his name is Pod Founderman.

1049
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:25,160
Speaker 4: So yeah, oh the Cincinnati Founderman's Yeah.

1050
00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:29,440
Speaker 2: The Cincinnati founder formerly formerly of Louisville, Kentucky.

1051
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:34,400
Speaker 1: All right, Uh so that sucks, but we there is

1052
00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:36,960
Speaker 1: some light at the end of the tunnel because Kamala

1053
00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:39,640
Speaker 1: Harris has announced her.

1054
00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:41,560
Speaker 2: Memoir.

1055
00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:47,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's coming it's uh, I guess she hasn't announced it.

1056
00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:51,200
Speaker 1: She announced it a long time ago. It's coming. It's

1057
00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:53,680
Speaker 1: called one hundred and seven days. So it's like about

1058
00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:57,080
Speaker 1: the one hundred and seven days that she ran for president.

1059
00:55:57,320 --> 00:55:58,120
Speaker 2: Do you guys remember that?

1060
00:55:58,760 --> 00:55:58,960
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1061
00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:00,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

1062
00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:02,640
Speaker 1: We all realized like Biden was bad and then he

1063
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:07,280
Speaker 1: we finally like everybody just pressured him enough into leaving

1064
00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:09,160
Speaker 1: the race. And then she had one hundred and seven

1065
00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:12,000
Speaker 1: days run for president and like started with a spark

1066
00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:15,239
Speaker 1: and had like a couple of good ideas and then

1067
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:21,000
Speaker 1: those were immediately like like replaced by terrible shit by

1068
00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:24,759
Speaker 1: the Democratic Party and had a chance their advisors. Yeah,

1069
00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:29,200
Speaker 1: she like had ideas about like greed flation and calling

1070
00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:33,440
Speaker 1: the Democratic or the Republican Party weird, and they're like no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

1071
00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:35,880
Speaker 1: shut the why don't you shut the fuck up?

1072
00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:40,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wonder here, kiss uh kiss Dick Cheney's daughter

1073
00:56:40,719 --> 00:56:43,640
Speaker 2: right now, kiss her on stage. That's gonna work.

1074
00:56:44,120 --> 00:56:49,399
Speaker 1: So yeah, she's she's doing some book tours, not at bookstores,

1075
00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:52,680
Speaker 1: but on a live speaking to our major venues. Some

1076
00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:56,319
Speaker 1: tickets going for more than four hundred dollars, not from

1077
00:56:56,400 --> 00:56:59,760
Speaker 1: like a reseller. That's the official price for a platinum

1078
00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:00,239
Speaker 1: to it.

1079
00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:05,399
Speaker 2: What a fucking cariff. Man, that's amazing, Just like man,

1080
00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:08,600
Speaker 2: that was a that was a shitty presidential campaign.

1081
00:57:08,719 --> 00:57:08,879
Speaker 3: Huh.

1082
00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:10,359
Speaker 2: You want to hear me talk about it for four

1083
00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:13,360
Speaker 2: hundred bucks? Yeah? Yeah, I do, I do, I do,

1084
00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:13,800
Speaker 2: I do.

1085
00:57:14,560 --> 00:57:18,479
Speaker 1: The excerpts are pretty telling, I'd say, presumably like people

1086
00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:24,600
Speaker 1: are looking for some t spillage and like she did,

1087
00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:27,880
Speaker 1: she just really published an excerpt in the Atlantic that

1088
00:57:28,160 --> 00:57:31,080
Speaker 1: defends Biden to some extent, claiming that there was no

1089
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Speaker 1: cover up concerning his mental decline.

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Speaker 2: Okay, that's that's where you lost me comin, come on now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you saw some ship also would kind

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Speaker 1: of implicate her or something, right, Yeah.

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Speaker 4: In a way, there wasn't really a cover up because

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Speaker 4: literally the entire country was like, oh, that's all sides

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Speaker 4: of every like. There were like a few people that

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Speaker 4: tried to deny it, but like, yeah.

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Speaker 1: We just chose answer your question. She also said, and

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Speaker 1: this is the refrain from the Biden side his debate,

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Speaker 1: clusterfuck wasn't incapacity. It was just tiredness owing to recent trips.

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Speaker 1: And I think and then add in from Hunter Biden

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Speaker 1: a little bit of ambient sprinkled in, so he was

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Speaker 1: it wasn't incapacity. He's just at an age where he

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Speaker 1: was incapacitated by being a little bit tired.

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Speaker 4: He was taking a trip down memory Lane's.

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Speaker 2: Trips to take that that thing from Hunter Biden, He's like,

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Speaker 2: I was on ambient and then like they looked at

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Speaker 2: the schedules, like bro he was he was traveled like

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Speaker 2: like a week solidly before that. But again, like you're saying,

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Speaker 2: like that's not good if just if traveling makes you

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Speaker 2: all tired like that and you want to be talked

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Speaker 2: out from a trip like a week later, like that's

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Speaker 2: that's not a good sign that It's like me, I'm

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Speaker 2: tuckered out from a trip a week later, But like you,

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Speaker 2: I don't want to be present.

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Speaker 1: I would be so bad at being present. I'd be

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Speaker 1: so fucking sleepy. What would you do if my comes

1117
00:59:11,560 --> 00:59:14,200
Speaker 1: up to you and says head er gut jack, and

1118
00:59:14,400 --> 00:59:21,600
Speaker 1: I cry my superpower crying the way out of things,

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Speaker 1: Well into.

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Speaker 2: My f would be interesting that like the American president,

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Speaker 2: with a completely different strategy from past American leaders, openly

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Speaker 2: sobbing pathetically as a way to get just like stop,

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Speaker 2: like just stop like invading them, Like, what the hell?

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Speaker 2: All right, Jesus stopped fucking crying.

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Speaker 1: Man, my god, you're gonna get snot on my suit

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Speaker 1: promise taft present, taft big crier.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, but yeah, there are other things too where

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Speaker 2: she was like where she is sort of like, look,

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Speaker 2: there are a lot of times the right wing media

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Speaker 2: was attacked me and they just didn't say shit, the

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Speaker 2: White House didn't have my back at fucking all, and

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Speaker 2: they're like, oh, absolutely accurate.

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Speaker 1: Like the the energy coming out of the Biden camp

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Speaker 1: during her run for president was like, I don't know,

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Speaker 1: ha haha. Not so easy to have a candidate who

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01:00:18,760 --> 01:00:21,400
Speaker 1: doesn't suck shit, huh, Like you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: Like they were just like praying she would. You got

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Speaker 1: a sense that at least a large part of them

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Speaker 1: maybe there were two wolves inside of them, and one

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Speaker 1: was rooting for her, but another was definitely hoping to

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Speaker 1: see her fail and be vindicated for thinking that they

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Speaker 1: had a better shot than her.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, there was another thing that she said to quote,

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Speaker 2: it's Joe and Jill's decision. We all said that like

1145
01:00:45,360 --> 01:00:48,600
Speaker 2: a mantra, as if we'd all been hypnotized. The stakes

1146
01:00:48,640 --> 01:00:50,680
Speaker 2: were simply too high. This wasn't a choice that should

1147
01:00:50,680 --> 01:00:52,720
Speaker 2: have should have been left to an individual's ego and

1148
01:00:52,800 --> 01:00:56,640
Speaker 2: individual's ambition. It should have been more than a personal decision. Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I guess like there's really nothing in

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01:00:59,440 --> 01:01:02,439
Speaker 2: here that isn't that's like shocking to me. I'm like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: of course they hung you out to dry like that.

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01:01:05,360 --> 01:01:07,560
Speaker 2: I mean, we saw that this part, which I think

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01:01:07,600 --> 01:01:09,800
Speaker 2: we knew already worse. I often learned that the president's

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01:01:09,800 --> 01:01:12,320
Speaker 2: staff was adding fuel to negative narratives that sprang up

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Speaker 2: around me. One narrative that took a stubborn hold was

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Speaker 2: that I had a chaotic office an unusually high staff

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Speaker 2: turnover during my first year as vice president. I do

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Speaker 2: remember that coming at a pretty critical point in the

1159
01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:28,520
Speaker 2: and like that wasn't coming Like they wouldn't have posted

1160
01:01:28,560 --> 01:01:31,440
Speaker 2: that if that was coming from like JD Vance, you

1161
01:01:31,480 --> 01:01:34,120
Speaker 2: know what I mean, Like that was coming from someone

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Speaker 2: in Biden administration. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's fucked up a.

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Speaker 4: Lot of the two. It's like the Biden cognitive whatever

1164
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Speaker 4: cover up this about how his team was mean to her.

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Speaker 4: All of it just reads is like the Democratic Party

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01:01:51,680 --> 01:01:54,840
Speaker 4: has no idea what the fuck it's doing, And like

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Speaker 4: if if this is what like and I don't know,

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Speaker 4: I I to me, she feels done, Like I feel

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Speaker 4: like I feel like guys, like a populace, we're done

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Speaker 4: with her. She also, I think, feels done, like I

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Speaker 4: don't know if she would run again, but if she,

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Speaker 4: if she does, you know maybe, But like I'm just like,

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Speaker 4: if this is what we're still talking about, it's like

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Speaker 4: we're fucked ligating.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the obvious, Like why did we lose? Like, guys,

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Speaker 2: is it really that much of a mystery to you? Right?

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Speaker 1: I think that's the only reason this story is of value,

1178
01:02:31,800 --> 01:02:34,800
Speaker 1: is just to further drive nails into the coffin of

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Speaker 1: the Democratic Party. Just like, guys, look how bad it

1180
01:02:38,160 --> 01:02:41,320
Speaker 1: was behind the scenes, Like we all thought that they

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01:02:41,360 --> 01:02:44,479
Speaker 1: had a chance, because we were hoping they had a chance.

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01:02:44,960 --> 01:02:48,680
Speaker 1: Behind the scenes, they were blowing it.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's a capitalist clown show and they don't know,

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01:02:52,320 --> 01:02:56,600
Speaker 2: they don't realize how their devotion to capitalism and the

1185
01:02:56,680 --> 01:03:00,600
Speaker 2: status quo was really its whole undoing. And now it's

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01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:04,520
Speaker 2: now that I now seeing the quotes from the Biden administration,

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Speaker 2: people that are like giving quotes after In the aftermath

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01:03:07,560 --> 01:03:09,640
Speaker 2: of this excerpt, I'm like, now I believe everything she says.

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Speaker 2: Like one person said, quote, Vice President Harris was simply

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Speaker 2: not good at the job. She had basically zero substantive

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01:03:16,960 --> 01:03:19,160
Speaker 2: role in any of the administration's key work streams, and

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01:03:19,240 --> 01:03:22,000
Speaker 2: instead would just dive bomb in for stilted photo ops

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Speaker 2: that expressed how out of depth she. Wow, holy shit, dude,

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01:03:26,080 --> 01:03:28,720
Speaker 2: that's what they're saying now. The day after this yeah

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Speaker 2: came out, President Biden.

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Speaker 1: Was not there were mean, Actually you're fucking stupid. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you're actually fucking dumb what we're saying at all. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's it's mean. Nobody likes you. But no one's going

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Speaker 1: to tell you that to your face. But nobody actually

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01:03:45,280 --> 01:03:45,480
Speaker 1: likes you.

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Speaker 2: They going to say, quote, President Biden was not the

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Speaker 2: reason she struggled in officer tanked her twenty nineteen presidential

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Speaker 2: campaign or lost the twenty twenty four campaign for that matter.

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Speaker 2: The independent variable there is the Vice president, not Biden

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Speaker 2: or his aides. Damn.

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Speaker 1: So you're like, that's like the best I've seen them

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Speaker 1: at being like critical and clapping the backbone.

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Speaker 2: They can't they couldn't do that against Trump they couldn't. Yeah,

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01:04:09,520 --> 01:04:12,840
Speaker 2: it's just but there's other quotes too that back what

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Speaker 2: she says. Another aide or staffer who spoke in this

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Speaker 2: one article I think, let me just make before it

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Speaker 2: was it in the New Republic said that quote. We

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Speaker 2: all know that the Biden folks treated her and her

1214
01:04:25,120 --> 01:04:28,000
Speaker 2: team like shit. We never thought she would actually say anything.

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Speaker 2: Staffers across a range of ages and positions that I'm

1216
01:04:31,280 --> 01:04:34,840
Speaker 2: talking to are proud of her. Yeah, so there's clearly,

1217
01:04:34,960 --> 01:04:38,680
Speaker 2: like I mean again, it just shows a very divided administration.

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Speaker 2: And I think that was really probably became clear as

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01:04:42,080 --> 01:04:45,440
Speaker 2: Biden just sat on his hands after October seventh, too, right,

1220
01:04:45,480 --> 01:04:50,920
Speaker 2: So yeah, we will see where if this, if this

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Speaker 2: harms her career because you have other people being like, well,

1222
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Speaker 2: she just nuked her career.

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Speaker 1: Really, Yeah, I mean I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I mean, like I feel like the type of people

1225
01:04:58,960 --> 01:05:01,920
Speaker 2: who say that, who are like play it safe politically

1226
01:05:02,080 --> 01:05:05,560
Speaker 2: always have have proven that they have some of the

1227
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Speaker 2: worst instincts in modern politics. I mean, like think about

1228
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Speaker 2: like Anthony Wiener, you know what I mean, who went

1229
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Speaker 2: to prison like he's even trying to get back in. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you know, it takes a lot to get it through

1231
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Speaker 2: to these people that it's like, hey, maybe you cooked. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I don't think.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know.

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01:05:22,800 --> 01:05:26,000
Speaker 2: If only they had like some blueprint of a path

1235
01:05:26,120 --> 01:05:29,120
Speaker 2: forward that had a lot of public support, like just

1236
01:05:29,200 --> 01:05:33,920
Speaker 2: like York mayoral candidate who was dominant and extremely popular

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01:05:34,080 --> 01:05:38,040
Speaker 2: that they've chosen to completely ignore and try and fuck over. Well,

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Speaker 2: it's like the thing where it's like it's like you say,

1239
01:05:39,960 --> 01:05:43,280
Speaker 2: like the like the Democrats are like like big pepsi people,

1240
01:05:43,520 --> 01:05:45,360
Speaker 2: and they're like, no, it's pepsi for everyone, like everyone

1241
01:05:45,440 --> 01:05:50,120
Speaker 2: likes coked. No, no, it's pepsi. It's like I look

1242
01:05:50,160 --> 01:05:53,640
Speaker 2: at the fucking numbers, man, everyone nobody's drinking pep numbers.

1243
01:05:53,880 --> 01:05:57,280
Speaker 2: It tainted and like they can't even fucking admit it.

1244
01:05:57,400 --> 01:06:00,840
Speaker 2: They're just like like no, none of them are backing

1245
01:06:00,960 --> 01:06:03,680
Speaker 2: zor like like what the fuck is going on that?

1246
01:06:03,920 --> 01:06:07,640
Speaker 4: I mean again, it's just like I've just never felt

1247
01:06:07,720 --> 01:06:10,080
Speaker 4: more done with the Democratic Party as a whole. I'm

1248
01:06:10,160 --> 01:06:11,880
Speaker 4: just like I don't know what you want from me.

1249
01:06:12,200 --> 01:06:14,960
Speaker 4: I want nothing from you, guys. I guess like this

1250
01:06:15,160 --> 01:06:15,840
Speaker 4: is just crazy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it seems bad.

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Speaker 1: All right, that's gonna do it. For this week's weekly Zeitgeist.

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Speaker 1: Please like and review the show. If you like, the

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Speaker 1: I hope you're having a great weekend and I will

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Speaker 1: talk to him Monday. By