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Speaker 1: Unpacking the Toolbox is a production of Shondaland Audio in

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Speaker 2: Katie, I am so full and I'm so sorry.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, I love it.

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Speaker 2: My son's school this morning has something called the Feast,

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Speaker 2: where every single parent brings in a dish, right, and

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Speaker 2: then the kids all sit at long tables. I'm basically

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Speaker 2: we go around and serve the children and they practice

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Speaker 2: saying like yes please or no thank you?

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Speaker 1: Oh nice?

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Speaker 2: Okay, So the food is like all for the kids,

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Speaker 2: and I was like, whatever, it's like eleven, am I

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Speaker 2: fucking made a plate? You stuffing sweet potato pie, whipped cream,

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Speaker 2: corn soufle a, green bean soufle a? Is it a

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Speaker 2: sou fle corn? No?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 2: And one of the kids thought it would be delicious

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Speaker 2: if the corn bread soufle thing had colored sprinkles. All yeah,

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Speaker 2: I'll eat that too. I mean, what am I thinking?

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Speaker 2: It is a Friday, We've got work to do, We've

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Speaker 2: got a podcast to record. And I was like, well,

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Speaker 2: I got that on lock. It was not bad, but

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Speaker 2: I definitely feel very tight in my pants.

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Speaker 1: What did you make?

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Speaker 2: What did I lie to everybody?

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Speaker 1: You picked that ship up at Bristol Farms.

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Speaker 2: It is way too expensive. I ordered. I signed up

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Speaker 2: well Fristle. Everyone just thinks we're gonna bring shabby pretzel Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and we did that last year and Adam was like,

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Speaker 2: I'm not bringing shabby pretzels. That's like hundreds and hundreds

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Speaker 2: ordered all those caesar salad. My son loves caesar salads,

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Speaker 2: and no one had signed her salads because salad's so dumb.

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Speaker 2: But I picked up. I just literally got caesar salad

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Speaker 2: mixing bags, dumped it into bullet.

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Speaker 1: But then I like.

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Speaker 2: What did you make? And I was like, well, I

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Speaker 2: made the caesar salad, but I made the dressing from scratch,

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Speaker 2: and I grew the lettuce in my yard. You're such

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Speaker 2: a liar.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god. You know there are a bunch of

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Speaker 1: Scandal fans and they're gonna be like that bitch live.

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Speaker 2: She'd be like, oh my god, that's the mom who

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Speaker 2: has it all. She's got the Scandal rewatch podcast, she's

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Speaker 2: got Katie's crib, she's an acting career, and she fucking

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Speaker 2: grows lettuce and looks amazing. And I was like, and

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Speaker 2: don't you fucking forget it?

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Speaker 1: Oh my god. But when they hear this podcast again.

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Speaker 2: Then I will I'm gonna come over my house for

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Speaker 2: replate it, and they're gonna be like, where are your

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Speaker 2: raised farmer's boxes in your yard when you cultivate a

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Speaker 2: how to make a goddamn thing. Speaking of which, can

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Speaker 2: we just talk about and then we should we'll do

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Speaker 2: an intro, But can you tell all of our listeners

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Speaker 2: what lunch you packed every day at Scandal for like

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Speaker 2: a lot of time?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think we We mentioned it a

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Speaker 1: It was I'm obsessed with canned beats, canned beats and

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Speaker 2: Is your poop just like red?

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Speaker 1: No, because our toilets are black, you know what.

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Speaker 1: I can so part of me is like am I dye? Like?

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Speaker 1: Is there blood in the blood? I know I can.

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Speaker 1: We got black toilets.

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Speaker 2: I mean see, like a black toilet is fucking like,

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Speaker 2: I get it. A black toilet is there's something that

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Speaker 2: Kings and ship In England, there was someone's job who

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Speaker 1: Yeah as well, I bet they didn't have black toilets

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Speaker 2: I can't believe you've never eating beets and pooped in

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Speaker 1: Yeah, my toilet paper isn't black. So that's you know,

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Speaker 2: This is the greatest podcast episode anyone has ever been

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Speaker 2: interested in. And it all started with beets. Giermo used

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Speaker 1: With cump quats. Was the first time that I was like,

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Speaker 2: She was unbelievable. And she would have like half a

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Speaker 2: the flashback episodes, when Abby you see her in the

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Speaker 2: past when she was sort of like a Susie homemaker,

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, she's a very good cook. She's a very good baker.

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Speaker 2: She's very comfortable in a kitchen like I would be.

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Speaker 2: You think it's because she's just so pretty. She's so beautiful.

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Speaker 2: Yes, she's so magical. She's also red that has the

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Speaker 2: like people who we g and I have talked about

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Speaker 2: I can't imagine walking through life as Darby with that

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Speaker 2: About some very cool trench coat.

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Speaker 2: Today's episode of the Scandal Rewatch podcast we're talking about

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Speaker 2: episode one oh five called Crash and Burn, which aired

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Speaker 2: on April twenty six in twenty twelve. It was written

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Speaker 2: by Mark Wilding and directed by Steve Robin Steve Robin.

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Speaker 2: It was guest starring Brendon Hines as Gideon Wallace Bellamy

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Speaker 2: Young his first lady, Melly Grant, Joshua Molina as David Rosen,

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Speaker 2: Ram Beckel as Hank Tanner, and Darren Petty as Andrew Mackelson. Yes, up,

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Speaker 2: we got to this place again. Are you going to

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Speaker 2: do the synopsis or shamiji, let's.

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Speaker 1: See, let's see what goes down.

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Speaker 2: Let me hear you do this, Okay, let's say synopsis.

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Speaker 2: Olivia and her team helped defend the pilot of a

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Speaker 2: commercial plane that crashed, killing all on board. When a

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Speaker 2: Manda Tanner goes missing, Hawk must call upon his past

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Speaker 2: to help find her fits ask the Vice president for help.

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Speaker 1: Very nice Yo, can I just say how special this

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Speaker 1: episode is. I mean, there were so many emotions. I

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Speaker 1: it because it made me. It made me miss doing

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Speaker 1: this was such a special time, especially that opening scene

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Speaker 2: and then Olivia says, how do you know? And you say,

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Speaker 2: Then I wrote in my notes, we fucking meet Charlie.

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Speaker 2: Yes, you're eating the sandwich, which, by the way, do

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Speaker 1: Listen, bitch, let me tell you something. I wrote a

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Speaker 2: I wrote my first question, My first question is why

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Speaker 2: Do you remember what it was? I?

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Speaker 1: It was on Holy Toast and it was lettuce, tomato,

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Speaker 2: Okay, So then you see Charlie, who was cast crazily

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Speaker 2: And he was also the boyfriend in Adventures and Babysiting.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, And George told me a story once I

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Speaker 2: Screen tested against Michael fucking Jazz, they flew him out.

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Speaker 1: Fox. How amazing is that?

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Speaker 1: this is us on set getting ready to shoot the scene,

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Speaker 1: and they would put a camera right in dead in

439
00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:09,760
Speaker 1: my face and I would have to look into the

440
00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:14,560
Speaker 1: camera and pretend and that was so much fun. I

441
00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:15,400
Speaker 1: love doing that.

442
00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:17,439
Speaker 2: They would call it Huck Cam.

443
00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:20,399
Speaker 1: It was called cam yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

444
00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:23,679
Speaker 2: So then later on in post they would superimpose like

445
00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:28,600
Speaker 2: the green like numbers and like computer typing letters going

446
00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:31,600
Speaker 2: over Giirmo's face. But I had to be in Huck

447
00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:33,479
Speaker 2: camp all the time too, like just kind of crouched

448
00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:36,080
Speaker 2: down next to you, and we're both looking like dead

449
00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:39,320
Speaker 2: into the camera as you're like fakely pretending to hit

450
00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:40,399
Speaker 2: keys and Hucks.

451
00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:43,280
Speaker 1: I feel like we all loved being in Huck's office.

452
00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:46,040
Speaker 1: It was such a special set, right, It was so

453
00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:50,200
Speaker 1: unique and industrial and and just a lot of wires

454
00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:55,120
Speaker 1: and growing things. He had fucking grow a grow house,

455
00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:57,240
Speaker 1: the little grow house in the back. Yeah, towards like

456
00:21:57,280 --> 00:22:00,199
Speaker 1: season three or four or something, they added that, like

457
00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:00,919
Speaker 1: did they ever know?

458
00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:02,639
Speaker 2: I mean, I felt like there were all these fucking

459
00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:05,719
Speaker 2: plants hanging where you were just like I know they

460
00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:07,040
Speaker 2: weren't weed, but I used to be.

461
00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:12,120
Speaker 1: Like, this is on track, right, Yeah, Tuck's.

462
00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:15,840
Speaker 2: Little dark hydroponic Is that the word?

463
00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:16,840
Speaker 1: I think? So?

464
00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:18,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, because hydroponics sounds.

465
00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:18,919
Speaker 1: Right to me.

466
00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:24,600
Speaker 2: Then we see Harrison is everyone's trying to listen to

467
00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:28,000
Speaker 2: this black box recording from the plane crash to figure

468
00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:31,360
Speaker 2: out who is truly at fault for the plane crashing.

469
00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:34,880
Speaker 2: Is it the pilot? You know, Darren Petty who who

470
00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:38,840
Speaker 2: played the husband of the pilot so well, hires Olivia

471
00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:41,399
Speaker 2: Pope to sort of represent the pilot of the plane

472
00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:44,639
Speaker 2: that she was not at fault. And everyone's listening to

473
00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:48,119
Speaker 2: the black box and we see Harrison doing like the

474
00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:51,560
Speaker 2: most amazing like that. He's so musical and he's like

475
00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:55,320
Speaker 2: obsessively listening to the box. It's in this episode where

476
00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:57,680
Speaker 2: I'm like this fuck, I love that there are three

477
00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:03,159
Speaker 2: degrees of Britney Spears on candle. You were in a

478
00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:10,240
Speaker 2: Britney Spears music video. Yeah, Shanda wrote Crossroads, Yes, Crossroads yep,

479
00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:15,960
Speaker 2: and Columbus choreographed one of her tours.

480
00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:19,159
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, like that's so crazy.

481
00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:22,720
Speaker 2: Yeah why did she never visit? Set right between the

482
00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:25,040
Speaker 2: whole thing of like listening to the black box over

483
00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:27,520
Speaker 2: and over again, figuring it out, and then doesn't Harrison

484
00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:30,199
Speaker 2: look at us. We're at the coffee station and he

485
00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:33,439
Speaker 2: shouts like it wasn't the plane, It wasn't it, And

486
00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:35,040
Speaker 2: his eyes are all red and you could tell you know,

487
00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:38,280
Speaker 2: I feel like Harrison had red makeup put on his eyes,

488
00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:41,359
Speaker 2: plus his eyes looked insane. It was like, yeah, he

489
00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:43,760
Speaker 2: hadn't slept because he's just like listening and listening and

490
00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:46,600
Speaker 2: listening and trying to decode what's in this. And then

491
00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:53,400
Speaker 2: he yells at them and says something like brilliant, we

492
00:23:53,520 --> 00:24:00,120
Speaker 2: learn that Laurie wasn't drinking. Again all these guest stars coast.

493
00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:04,480
Speaker 2: The performances are fucking ridiculous. So Stupertius that was too

494
00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:06,480
Speaker 2: drunk on her birthday and stand in and then Sebe

495
00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:08,399
Speaker 2: goes and visits her in the hotel room and she's like,

496
00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:10,400
Speaker 2: doesn't even know that everyone had gone down?

497
00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:13,840
Speaker 1: So good? So good? The yeah, yeah, the one that

498
00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:14,440
Speaker 1: was hung over.

499
00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:16,480
Speaker 2: Yes, it was so good.

500
00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:19,720
Speaker 1: She played Carly Reston and her name her her actually

501
00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:21,360
Speaker 1: actress's name is Amanda Fuller.

502
00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:24,040
Speaker 2: And did you fucking google?

503
00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:26,480
Speaker 1: I sure did, Katie, because because of what you were

504
00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:29,199
Speaker 1: just saying, she's so good that I was like, we

505
00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:32,120
Speaker 1: have to give this actor a shout out. Her name

506
00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:35,040
Speaker 1: is Amanda Fuller, and she's yeah, she's been in a

507
00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:38,280
Speaker 1: ton of stuff. She was in a Grayze episode. She

508
00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:41,639
Speaker 1: played Britney Murphy. In a TV movie about Britney Murphy.

509
00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:44,240
Speaker 1: Remember the amazing Brittany Murphy.

510
00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:46,119
Speaker 2: She fucking killed.

511
00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:49,199
Speaker 1: That, but that this actress fucking just brought it.

512
00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:52,760
Speaker 2: No, she was unbelievable. She's hysterical crying, she's funny at

513
00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:54,840
Speaker 2: the top, just open the door and be like what

514
00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:57,600
Speaker 2: And she has to go into this whole thing where

515
00:24:57,640 --> 00:24:59,600
Speaker 2: she realized she just missed death.

516
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,040
Speaker 1: Darby is so good in this scene too, because you

517
00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:04,240
Speaker 1: could see how cold she is and she's like, she

518
00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:06,919
Speaker 1: doesn't know how to deal with someone being emotional. So

519
00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:09,200
Speaker 1: she pushes the tissue box forward, yes, and then she

520
00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:11,359
Speaker 1: keeps crying and then she pushes it forward again, Like.

521
00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:13,440
Speaker 2: Oh my god, that's so classic.

522
00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:16,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's not comforting at all. Yeah.

523
00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:19,240
Speaker 2: Was that written in the stage directions? Or is that

524
00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:21,520
Speaker 2: Darby just making genius acting choices.

525
00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:24,200
Speaker 1: I want to say it was Darby making genius acting choices.

526
00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:25,240
Speaker 2: I want to say that too.

527
00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:28,000
Speaker 1: So so good, Like she did not know how to

528
00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:30,800
Speaker 1: comfort this what the character did not know how to

529
00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:33,800
Speaker 1: comfort someone that's breaking down like that? It was just

530
00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:35,600
Speaker 1: so fun to watch to watch her work.

531
00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:39,600
Speaker 2: We're back in the OPA office, comes in and says

532
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:42,040
Speaker 2: and screams Amanda Tanner is dead.

533
00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:49,480
Speaker 1: Oh god, I remember getting chills doing that scene. Oh,

534
00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:51,280
Speaker 1: that was one of my favorite. You know how you

535
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:54,280
Speaker 1: have scenes that it just feels so good to do

536
00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:57,879
Speaker 1: and they stick with you. I just remember that moment.

537
00:25:58,040 --> 00:25:59,800
Speaker 2: What were our lines leading up to it? We were

538
00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:02,679
Speaker 2: all like, I just remember, we're running around in a fury,

539
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:06,080
Speaker 2: and lady is giving up fucking orders, like you go this,

540
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:07,720
Speaker 2: and you go this, and you go this and and

541
00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:10,960
Speaker 2: and then you're just like you yell, which Huck never does.

542
00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:13,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, everyone's caught up because I don't know if we

543
00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:16,600
Speaker 1: mentioned it, but a plane and a plane crashes in

544
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:19,080
Speaker 1: the episode and it kills one hundred and twenty people.

545
00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:22,480
Speaker 1: And then Olivia now represents the pilot's union and she

546
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:26,560
Speaker 1: expects the airline is gonna blame Laurie the pilot, which

547
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:26,879
Speaker 1: they do.

548
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:30,840
Speaker 2: I thought we were all like running around talking about

549
00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:33,760
Speaker 2: like how to find Amanda or something, and then you

550
00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:35,520
Speaker 2: just come to Amanda Tanner's dead.

551
00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:38,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was. It was. It was something

552
00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:39,200
Speaker 1: like that.

553
00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:43,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, you record, stop the whole scene and Olivia looks

554
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:44,000
Speaker 2: at you.

555
00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:46,679
Speaker 1: And she's like, are you sure. I just shake my

556
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:47,240
Speaker 1: head yes.

557
00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:50,600
Speaker 2: And then oh and then that's my favorite fucking Carry

558
00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:51,600
Speaker 2: Washington moment acting.

559
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:54,119
Speaker 1: I wrote that.

560
00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:57,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, have the same days. When she marches out to

561
00:26:57,840 --> 00:26:59,879
Speaker 2: the street to the Dan that's been fucking watching it,

562
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:04,000
Speaker 2: She's like, roll down your fucking window and she bailed

563
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:09,000
Speaker 2: on the windshield. Tell your guy that I know, I know.

564
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:11,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, talk into your little microphone and your brants and

565
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:13,920
Speaker 1: you tell him that I know. Yeah.

566
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:17,359
Speaker 2: When I see her do that scene, I feel like

567
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:22,520
Speaker 2: she is summoning her bronx, her like roots, like her bronx,

568
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:24,639
Speaker 2: Like this is how I talk to someone when I

569
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:27,680
Speaker 2: am like in my most power and I'm so pissed

570
00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:33,200
Speaker 2: and I've been so wrunk as it's remarkable. And then

571
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 2: she turns away from screaming at the two dudes in

572
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:38,360
Speaker 2: This is Dan, and the whole shot goes into slow mo.

573
00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:41,879
Speaker 1: And she she like rubs her arms, yes, which is

574
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,200
Speaker 1: so just that little moments.

575
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:49,919
Speaker 2: Oh god, oh my god, It's unfucking believable. So we

576
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:55,440
Speaker 2: know she's dead, which is horrible and stupid. Ass. Quinn Pergin, Yeah,

577
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:59,600
Speaker 2: makes a promise, finds Amanda Tanner's dad, brings him to

578
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:02,159
Speaker 2: the office and said everything is going to be okay,

579
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:08,439
Speaker 2: I promise to which Olivia is like, Quinn, can I

580
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:10,120
Speaker 2: speak to you for a minute at the coffee station?

581
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:11,880
Speaker 1: At the coffee station and.

582
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:14,960
Speaker 2: Then I'm like yeah, what and she's like, we don't

583
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:18,720
Speaker 2: make promises. Yeah ever, and I'm like what are you

584
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 2: talking about? And she's like, Amanda Tanner is dead? And

585
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:27,160
Speaker 2: I'm like, what did see? I was not mouth agape there.

586
00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:29,040
Speaker 2: I gave you other options.

587
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:33,679
Speaker 1: Nope, just real quickly. In this scene, we are introduced

588
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:36,639
Speaker 1: to uh to Hank Tanner. Hank Tanner, who is Amanda

589
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 1: Tanner's dad, and it's played by Graham Beckel. Now let

590
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:42,880
Speaker 1: me tell you something. I went down a rabbit hole

591
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:46,600
Speaker 1: googling Homeboy because I was like, I do that with

592
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:48,720
Speaker 1: all the co stars because it's so fun to see

593
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:52,840
Speaker 1: what they've been in. So Graham Beckele was in fucking

594
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:57,440
Speaker 1: Broke Back Mountain. He plays Anne Hathaway's dad in that

595
00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 1: fucking amazing scene when they're having thanks dinner and Hathaway

596
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 1: and Jake Jillen Hall they have the TV playing and

597
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 1: their little son is like watching the TV and the

598
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,960
Speaker 1: mother's like, you eat your food, stop watching TV, and

599
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:12,080
Speaker 1: Jake Jillen Hall goes and turns off the TV and

600
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:14,200
Speaker 1: the dad gets up and he's like turns it back

601
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 1: on anyway, It's a back and forth, but it's such

602
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:20,920
Speaker 1: a powerful scene. And this man played and Hathaway's dad.

603
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 2: Wow, I would have never known that.

604
00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 1: How great is he in this episode? Like he's.

605
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 2: He's that heartbreaking, heartbreaking and what a hard yes, like

606
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 2: let's come in, let's meet you, and let's have you

607
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 2: be here on the worst day of your character's life,

608
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 2: like raw, yes, seeing your daughter's fucking body Like this

609
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 2: guy is he's just so vulnerable in this episode and

610
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 2: he's so sad and to see this like grown masculine

611
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 2: ass man like breaking down. He's he was again perfect

612
00:29:58,400 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 2: fucking casting.

613
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:02,240
Speaker 1: We'll get and we I was wondering, we'll get to it,

614
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:05,520
Speaker 1: but this episode, like you, I don't even have to say.

615
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:12,800
Speaker 2: It, right, Oh, I remember it forever forever you and

616
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:14,560
Speaker 2: I I go yet.

617
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 1: I think that's why I cried so much watching the episode,

618
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:20,120
Speaker 1: because I was remembering that and oh it was just

619
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:21,760
Speaker 1: such a yeah, but we'll get to it.

620
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:24,120
Speaker 2: Oh my god, Girma and I have well, you have

621
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:26,000
Speaker 2: to get there. We're gonna get to that scene really soon.

622
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:26,479
Speaker 1: Yeah.

623
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:30,880
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, okay, Olivia calls Fits, he didn't know, he

624
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:34,560
Speaker 2: didn't know that she's dead. Yes, they do like a

625
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:37,960
Speaker 2: split screen down the center with like you know where

626
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:39,680
Speaker 2: they split the screen in two and there's like a

627
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:42,360
Speaker 2: black bar between their phone call. And Olivia is the

628
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:44,640
Speaker 2: first person to tell Fits that Amanda Tanner is dead,

629
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:46,160
Speaker 2: and he's like, come, look me in the eye. You

630
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:47,880
Speaker 2: know I'm telling the truth. It's not something I would

631
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:52,400
Speaker 2: ever fucking do. And she says, yeah, but you let

632
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:55,560
Speaker 2: Cyrus off his leash. You know, if the dog maul's

633
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 2: a baby, it's the owner's fault, and you know that's

634
00:30:59,080 --> 00:30:59,600
Speaker 2: on you.

635
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:01,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, she said, he's a he's a pit bull. You

636
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:04,240
Speaker 1: let your you let your dog off the leash. Yeah.

637
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:05,800
Speaker 1: Oh it's such a great scene.

638
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is such a fucking great scene.

639
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 1: I wrote, I wrote come on split screen in my notes,

640
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:14,640
Speaker 1: and then I wrote very Brian de Palma, because Brian

641
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 1: de Palma does that a lot in his movies. He

642
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:20,640
Speaker 1: does split screen. Yeah, oh, such a powerful scene. Yeah.

643
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 2: Then I wrote, they do right by the pilot and

644
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 2: they have an alibi that she wasn't drinking. Then we

645
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:30,640
Speaker 2: go into Olivia asks, oh, this was my title? Whoa

646
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 2: g acting.

647
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:36,120
Speaker 1: Whoa oh Man.

648
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:37,960
Speaker 2: Which is basically for the scene where Olivia comes into

649
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 2: your office and says, I need you to help me

650
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 2: find the body. Yeah, and if you need me to

651
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 2: come get you, you know, just call or something like that,

652
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 2: and we're like, what what is this? What is happening?

653
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:56,160
Speaker 1: These scenes with a Huck in Olivia were always so

654
00:31:56,160 --> 00:32:00,240
Speaker 1: so special because there was just that unspoken like action

655
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 1: with those two right. The room was so full of

656
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 1: emotions and like just stuff when we would do those scenes,

657
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 1: and it was so easy to play, but it was

658
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:13,480
Speaker 1: exhilarating to play these scenes with Carrie. It was so

659
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 1: much fun. And in this episode, I think it's the

660
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 1: first time and it's the first time you see Huck

661
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 1: torture someone, but it's the first time that I thought,

662
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:23,360
Speaker 1: oh my god, this is this is going to a

663
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 1: really dark place with my character, you know, and I

664
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 1: freaking loved it. I was like, this is the thing

665
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:31,240
Speaker 1: that's ever happened to me in my life as an actor.

666
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:34,960
Speaker 1: Oh it was. I felt so so it was so great.

667
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 2: But it's true they asked of you, Like what they

668
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 2: asked of you was so fucking wild, and you went

669
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 2: there so beautifully and I wrote, I wrote WHOA Gee's

670
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:51,200
Speaker 2: acting WHOA in that scene?

671
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:56,239
Speaker 1: Not to get too deep, but a person like a

672
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:58,720
Speaker 1: person that's been through a lot of shit. I mean,

673
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 1: we've all been through a lot of shit. But this

674
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 1: is like a gift to be able to to, you know,

675
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 1: slice yourself. Sally Field said this once in an interview.

676
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 1: They were like, how do you prepare for those emotional scenes?

677
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 1: And she said, I start symbolically sort of slicing myself

678
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 1: open emotionally and opening up all those old wounds and

679
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 1: scars and shit that happened to you. And I'm super like,

680
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 1: if somebody walks in the room and they're going through

681
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 1: a really hard time, my eye goes right to them

682
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 1: and my heart opens up, and I'm like, I can't

683
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:28,960
Speaker 1: like settle and I can't really have a good time

684
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:32,360
Speaker 1: if I see someone that's going through something. Yes, yes,

685
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 1: an EmPATH anyway, So it was a gift to be

686
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 1: able to play this this character. And I just use

687
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:38,240
Speaker 1: that shit, you know what I mean.

688
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:42,440
Speaker 2: You can like go there and you feel like you're

689
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 2: not allowed to do that in your day to day life.

690
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 2: So to like get to be able, you know, some

691
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 2: people would like scream at a steering wheel or like

692
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 2: sob cry in a shower. Yeah, and most people probably

693
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 2: don't even let themselves do that. And then it's so

694
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 2: awesome when you're an actor that you get to just

695
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 2: like do this stuff. Yeah yourself, go like go to

696
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 2: a really dark place, go to like a really scary

697
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 2: emotional place, and it's okay because you were in a

698
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 2: safe environment.

699
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 1: It was also exciting and not knowing what was going

700
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 1: to happen when I was doing the scene, like emotionally,

701
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 1: do you know what I mean? That was so exciting

702
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:21,680
Speaker 1: to be like, this is so fucked up. I don't

703
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 1: know exactly what's gonna happen, if I'm gonna cry or whatever,

704
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:26,799
Speaker 1: what I'm going to feel and.

705
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:31,279
Speaker 2: Do anyway, Okay, Then I wrote, oh my god, he

706
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:36,800
Speaker 2: has Charlie on the tarp. Yes, red tool Huck gets

707
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:40,960
Speaker 2: his red toolbox, but eight thousand xlimation points and I

708
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:42,960
Speaker 2: wrote red toolbox multiple times.

709
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:46,000
Speaker 1: This is the first time we see the toolbox, which

710
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:48,840
Speaker 1: is so funny because our podcast is called yeah, Unpacking

711
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:49,759
Speaker 1: the Toolbox.

712
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:52,759
Speaker 2: Yes, Unpacking the toolbox. Baby, did you ever know that

713
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:56,239
Speaker 2: this was going to be his thing?

714
00:34:56,760 --> 00:35:00,319
Speaker 1: No? Not at all, not at all. I knew when

715
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 1: we you know, when we got the episode at the

716
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 1: table reader the day before or whatever. But before that, no,

717
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 1: I had no idea. But again, I freaking loved it.

718
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 1: I was like, God, he's gonna fucking torture someone with

719
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:13,480
Speaker 1: all these tools in his toolbox.

720
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:18,239
Speaker 2: How did you make George Newborn feel safe? Because I

721
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:20,440
Speaker 2: didn't know him very well, but I remember him being like,

722
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:23,640
Speaker 2: I can't believe I'm doing this job. I have one scene,

723
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:29,840
Speaker 2: you know where I have like talking with Germo Diaz

724
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:33,400
Speaker 2: in a diner and then I'm like naked. He was

725
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:37,439
Speaker 2: like in a duct tape underwear on a tarp where

726
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 2: I just have to scream a lot. And I was like, yeah, Like,

727
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:43,560
Speaker 2: I don't know for like an older dude who has

728
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 2: a very successful career, like, I don't know what you

729
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:48,359
Speaker 2: would think of that job. What was it like on

730
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:51,319
Speaker 2: the day? Were you very collaborative? Were you nervous? Was

731
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 2: he nervous?

732
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 1: I think we were both nervous. I was super nervous,

733
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 1: but an excited nervous, you know what I mean, because

734
00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:00,360
Speaker 1: the scene was so good. But I think thing with

735
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:03,719
Speaker 1: me and George, we as people and as the characters,

736
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:06,880
Speaker 1: we clicked right away, like it felt right, you know

737
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:08,759
Speaker 1: how sometimes that happens on a movie or a TV

738
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,279
Speaker 1: show where you're like, oh, this just and and I

739
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:15,240
Speaker 1: think that was the case with all the regulars on Scandal.

740
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:19,440
Speaker 1: Something about this cast just it was just right. It

741
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:21,960
Speaker 1: just made sense, you know what I mean? Yes, And

742
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 1: when Charlie came into the picture, it made sense. And

743
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 1: houcking Charlie. It just click with him, it was it

744
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 1: was so easy to do these scenes with him because

745
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 1: it just it just felt right. And I and also

746
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 1: me and George I crack up a lot. We love

747
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:38,479
Speaker 1: to laugh, as you know, because you love to laugh

748
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:39,280
Speaker 1: with us too.

749
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 2: You well, the three of us two were together a

750
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 2: lot over the seven years.

751
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 1: Yea.

752
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:47,359
Speaker 2: And you what's so funny about you two seeing you

753
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:50,799
Speaker 2: do these scenes with him? You're both two of the

754
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 2: funniest dudes, I know, two of the most sweetest in

755
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:59,280
Speaker 2: your hearts like people, I know, like like really genuinely

756
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 2: like want good things for people. And then to just

757
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:05,759
Speaker 2: watch this episode and see him fucking screaming his head

758
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:09,319
Speaker 2: off while you're doing yeah for buying fucking things to him,

759
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 2: like I can't.

760
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:11,920
Speaker 1: He's drilling holes into him.

761
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:14,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's horrible. Is that what you were doing. It

762
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 2: was drilling holes.

763
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he's he's drilling holes in his body.

764
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:22,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, Oh my god, are you fucking kidding me? That's

765
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 2: disgusting all because he won't tell you where the Amanitanna body.

766
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 1: Yes, I'm just asking where her body is and he

767
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:30,840
Speaker 1: won't tell me. But look in my notes, I wrote

768
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:38,839
Speaker 1: to film this was frightening, exhilarating, anxiety inducing. I also

769
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:42,279
Speaker 1: wrote it felt like it felt like an orgasm. I

770
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 1: was in a trance doing doing the scene shit, And

771
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:49,480
Speaker 1: then I wrote, if it's like chanting, you know when

772
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:51,799
Speaker 1: you chant and you just get in the sort of

773
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 1: trance seeing the words that Sean Shonda wrote and that

774
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 1: the Scandal writers wrote, feels like chanting because it's again,

775
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:02,040
Speaker 1: we've talked about this before. It it's so well written,

776
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:04,280
Speaker 1: and it just flows out of your mouth so well.

777
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 1: I felt like that happened a lot doing a Huck

778
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:08,800
Speaker 1: scenes because I felt like I would go in a

779
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:11,719
Speaker 1: trance because sometimes, you know, you get caught up like fuck,

780
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:13,879
Speaker 1: am I gonna remember the lines? And then I'm sure

781
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:15,839
Speaker 1: you do this too, or you've thought about this. But

782
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 1: it gets to the point where they're rolling and they're

783
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:20,920
Speaker 1: like all right, action in my head, I think, all right,

784
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 1: let me see if I remember my lines and just

785
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 1: let the words come out, and you're and you have

786
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:30,319
Speaker 1: to say them super fast, so part of you just

787
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:34,280
Speaker 1: has to like relinquish control and just whatever happens happens

788
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 1: or whatever comes out comes out when all the words

789
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:40,239
Speaker 1: come out. Right, Oh, it's just it's it's it's best

790
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:41,920
Speaker 1: good feels, the best feeling.

791
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:45,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, that aha moment or whatever. That like you're in

792
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:49,920
Speaker 2: the flow, Like you're in that human heightened high vibrational

793
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 2: flow where you're like, yes, there is no time, there

794
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 2: is no then or future. You're just like really heightened

795
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:01,360
Speaker 2: connective tissue right then and there. But I think that

796
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:04,000
Speaker 2: makes a lot of sense, the transpart, because I do

797
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:07,719
Speaker 2: think sometimes, Huck, the way you'll you sound when you're

798
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:09,920
Speaker 2: like doing some of those scenes is you're like it

799
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 2: almost sounds like you're chanting. I've never even thought about

800
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 2: that until this moment, but it's sort of oh my

801
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 2: god that I could barely watch it. I was like

802
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:24,239
Speaker 2: completely terrified. Yeah, okay, then we have I put a

803
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 2: shitload of exclamation points for Sally Langston.

804
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:29,280
Speaker 1: First, all yes, yes.

805
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:31,719
Speaker 2: All in the White House he's trying to pass the

806
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:35,240
Speaker 2: Dream Act, which is similar to like dhaka, isn't.

807
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:37,440
Speaker 1: It Yes, yes, yes, yes, yeah yeah.

808
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:40,040
Speaker 2: Fits wants and knows that this is the right thing

809
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:42,720
Speaker 2: to do to be passed, and Sally Langston is holding

810
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:46,200
Speaker 2: up all the votes and not letting it happen, and

811
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:50,280
Speaker 2: Fitz has the most like amazing monologue to her about

812
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:52,800
Speaker 2: like hah yeah, yeah, fuck you, you're gonna put the

813
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:56,920
Speaker 2: Dream Act through? Yes, And Sally Langston is so wonderful

814
00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:59,879
Speaker 2: and fans must have gone so crazy because that's Merit

815
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:01,840
Speaker 2: Gray's mom from Grey's Anatomy.

816
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:04,760
Speaker 1: Yes, Kate, well, listen, can we talk about Kate Burton.

817
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 1: What a fucking dope person she is? She is like,

818
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 1: oh so lovely, so kind, so loving, the nicest freaking person.

819
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:20,880
Speaker 1: And I love seeing really kind, like nice, genuinely happy

820
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:25,720
Speaker 1: people play these asshole characters. She does it so so well. Also,

821
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 1: Kate Burton, which again I went on a googling thing

822
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:31,239
Speaker 1: and I knew this already, But Kate Burton is the

823
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 1: daughter of Richard Burton, who used to be married to

824
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:36,719
Speaker 1: Elizabeth Taylor Is. She's the daughter of Richard Burton and

825
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:39,240
Speaker 1: Sybil Williams, who was a Welsh actress.

826
00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 2: And I just think it was amazing that on Scandal

827
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 2: we had our president and vice president were Hollywood royalty,

828
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:51,000
Speaker 2: because we had Tony Goldwyn of Goldwyn Metro Mayer and

829
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 2: his whole dynasty of like MGM. And then we had

830
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 2: Sally Langston played by Kate Burton, who's Richard Burton's daughter.

831
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:04,759
Speaker 2: Like we had like two Hollywood lineage of like I mean,

832
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:07,400
Speaker 2: they have debt, their their their Hollywood royalty.

833
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:08,400
Speaker 1: It's in their blood.

834
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, their blood. It's why they can walk around and

835
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 2: sort of be like I'm the president and I'm vice

836
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:18,320
Speaker 2: president or whatever. But my god, Sally Langston again, in

837
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:20,920
Speaker 2: this episode, you get your first glims at Sally Langston.

838
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:23,440
Speaker 2: You get your first glims at Charlie. Two people who

839
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 2: were with us till the end, yes, and who were

840
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:29,880
Speaker 2: in countless eight billion episodes and were such genuses on

841
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:30,279
Speaker 2: the show.

842
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:30,799
Speaker 3: Yes.

843
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:36,160
Speaker 2: And then we pull I remember this like it was yesterday,

844
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:38,440
Speaker 2: We pull Amanda Tanner out of the Potomac.

845
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:40,840
Speaker 1: Yes, I remem we shot it in Long Beach. Do

846
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:42,759
Speaker 1: you remember that? Wasn't it Long Beach?

847
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:44,440
Speaker 2: We shot it in Long Beach and I was so

848
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:49,360
Speaker 2: nervous because Scandal ABC or something was like making me

849
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 2: go around at the same time and like interviewing you people.

850
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 1: I remember that and we were pissed. You were kind

851
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 1: of pissed because it's such an emotional, you know.

852
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 2: Scene, and like, yeah, I was like, oh my god,

853
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 2: I'm watching Amanda Tanner being pulled out of the Potomac

854
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:05,920
Speaker 2: and instead I'm going around. They've asked me to go

855
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:07,239
Speaker 2: around with my cell phone and being like, what do

856
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:10,480
Speaker 2: you like about Scandal? And like, obviously that shit is

857
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:13,239
Speaker 2: important because the show was in no way shape form

858
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:15,960
Speaker 2: a hit in season one and we were doing whatever

859
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:19,279
Speaker 2: we could on the social media fucking channels to get

860
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 2: anyone to watch our show.

861
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 1: I feel like that was the hardest thing on the show,

862
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:27,399
Speaker 1: was navigating doing press stuff and being able to stay

863
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:29,759
Speaker 1: focused on our work on the show, you know what

864
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:31,839
Speaker 1: I mean, because that would get thrown at us all

865
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:33,680
Speaker 1: the time, where it was like they would come on

866
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:35,759
Speaker 1: set and we have to do epks, which is a

867
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 1: electronic press kit and you do all these interviews, but

868
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:40,399
Speaker 1: that would happen all the time.

869
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 2: But navigating that my first day, I remember it like,

870
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:45,399
Speaker 2: oh my god, Manda Tanner's being pulled out. We're all

871
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 2: so upset. We didn't even know death was like a

872
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 2: thing on the show. Really yeah, And I'm going around

873
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:53,960
Speaker 2: being like, can you tell us what you think about sill?

874
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:58,240
Speaker 2: And I'm like, oh my god, this is I actually

875
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:00,360
Speaker 2: have the video still in my phone and when we

876
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 2: put out this episode, I'm gonna put that on so

877
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 2: everyone can know what we're talking about.

878
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:06,239
Speaker 1: Oh hell yeah.

879
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:10,800
Speaker 2: And then we go to the morgue.

880
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 1: Oh man, Katie and that is me.

881
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 2: Me and Gearmo were like best friends for life.

882
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 1: After that we bonded. I feel like that was our

883
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:24,080
Speaker 1: first like bonding moment where we truly bonded as as

884
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 1: you know, as Katie and Ghirmo. Like, I don't know

885
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:28,880
Speaker 1: what the fuck happened. Maybe it was because we were

886
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:32,239
Speaker 1: shooting the scene where you know, Amanda's dad is at

887
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:34,759
Speaker 1: the morgue and he has to identify her body, and

888
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:38,879
Speaker 1: it was already a super emotional, like somber ominous sort

889
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:43,040
Speaker 1: of feeling on set, and and somehow like what do

890
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:43,960
Speaker 1: you remember.

891
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 2: We talked about this on previous episodes, where like sometimes

892
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:50,800
Speaker 2: the tears are there and sometimes they're not, And this

893
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 2: was one of these days where for some reason, like

894
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:57,120
Speaker 2: in the universe. Giermo and I were just like a

895
00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 2: well of emotion and tears and feelings. And we were

896
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 2: standing at that window looking into the morgue at Amanda's

897
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:12,279
Speaker 2: body and I couldn't stop crying, and I and I'm

898
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 2: just feeling the feelings of the show. And I had

899
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:19,440
Speaker 2: lost I was kept you know, things kept coming into

900
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 2: my head. And I had lost a friend who had

901
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 2: died of lung cancer right when I auditioned for the part,

902
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 2: and she, for some reason was just like her spirit

903
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:31,400
Speaker 2: was like very present in the room for me.

904
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:33,240
Speaker 1: I remember you telling me that story.

905
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, instead of running away from it, I was really

906
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:38,800
Speaker 2: singing into it, and I was really emotional. And it

907
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:40,080
Speaker 2: was one of these days where it's like we had

908
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:43,359
Speaker 2: the opportunity to really just like feel it and gear

909
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:46,319
Speaker 2: moment you use it, yeah right there with me. Yeah.

910
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 1: I remember me and you stepping like away from everyone.

911
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:51,160
Speaker 1: We were in the back of the set and we

912
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:54,400
Speaker 1: were talking about all this stuff and we couldn't stop crying.

913
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 1: And I remember you telling me now that you guys all,

914
00:44:57,680 --> 00:44:58,680
Speaker 1: I don't know if you still.

915
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:00,359
Speaker 2: Do it go on a hip every year every year

916
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:02,439
Speaker 2: on her death. Yeah, every year on her death.

917
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:05,799
Speaker 1: That day sticks so strongly in my memory, and it's

918
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:10,120
Speaker 1: so special. I do like, I've never had an experience

919
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:13,239
Speaker 1: like that with with someone. It was so special, It

920
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 1: was so Katie and I wrote down no tearstick here.

921
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 1: From what we talked about, we didn't need that. See, yeah,

922
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 1: sometimes you need that tears.

923
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:25,800
Speaker 2: We didn't need that mental blow. We didn't need it.

924
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:27,920
Speaker 2: We had tears for fucking days.

925
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:30,200
Speaker 1: We'll be back soon, guys.

926
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 2: Oh, this part really quick. Olivia goes to touch Hawk

927
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:42,399
Speaker 2: at that same scene and you like quickly jerk yourself away,

928
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 2: and we realize.

929
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 1: That recoil away. Yeah, that it has.

930
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 2: Taken a toll. It has you. You getting Charlie on

931
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:52,799
Speaker 2: the tarp took its toll. Yeah, I wrote, Amanda dead,

932
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:55,160
Speaker 2: were crying. We were crying so much when we shot that.

933
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 2: Do you remember, Gearmo wrote.

934
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 1: I wrote, do you remember Katie? Oh my god, look,

935
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:06,279
Speaker 1: I said, I wrote, look Katie, exclamation point. Remember our

936
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 1: special emotional time while filming at the Coroners. We couldn't

937
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:15,239
Speaker 1: stop crying. We truly bonded in this episode. No tearstick here,

938
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:16,879
Speaker 1: Oh my god?

939
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:24,880
Speaker 2: Crazy Okay, Then Darren Petty crying for his wife. Finally

940
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:27,320
Speaker 2: they get to the bottom of it that like it

941
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:33,840
Speaker 2: was this poorror fucking lady's fault about the plane. She

942
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:36,600
Speaker 2: made it to her daughter's recital and she.

943
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:41,920
Speaker 1: Decided to just duplicate them.

944
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 2: When the plane was broken and she sends it up

945
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:45,440
Speaker 2: the ladder and the plane was broken, but it was

946
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:49,960
Speaker 2: her fault for not filing it correctly. And she's there there,

947
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:52,759
Speaker 2: underpaid and overworked and normally her job used to be

948
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:57,520
Speaker 2: two people's jobs and she's amazing in that scene.

949
00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:00,440
Speaker 1: Can we just give a shout out to Leonora May

950
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:04,160
Speaker 1: is the actress who played that role. My god, yes,

951
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:10,360
Speaker 1: oh yes, I am going to make out with you again.

952
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 3: Okay must be known as the Scandal rewatch podcast where

953
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 3: every fucking actor gets their fucking.

954
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:25,920
Speaker 1: Sho fucking yes, Leonora May amazing in this.

955
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:30,320
Speaker 2: Role and their respect. Lenora May was in and she

956
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:31,040
Speaker 2: was in.

957
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:33,480
Speaker 1: An episode of Little House on the Prairie, which is

958
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 1: one of my favorite shows ever that Brad Yukobean freaking

959
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:39,600
Speaker 1: worked on. Did you know this?

960
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:42,759
Speaker 2: I didn't know. Brad Brad, who was one of our

961
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:45,040
Speaker 2: producers of Scandal, was one of the producers on Little

962
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:45,760
Speaker 2: House on a Prairie.

963
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:49,520
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, he worked on Little House. Yep, but she

964
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:53,600
Speaker 1: did an episode. She did an episode of Gray's Lenora May.

965
00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:57,280
Speaker 1: She's a very accomplished actor, and she was just wonderful

966
00:47:57,560 --> 00:47:58,520
Speaker 1: in this fucking scene.

967
00:47:58,560 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, she fucking demolished.

968
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:05,240
Speaker 1: And also Harrison's Columbus reaction to her it was so great,

969
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:09,839
Speaker 1: so good, so real, so oh so organic, so so good.

970
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:12,120
Speaker 2: It was so good. So we find that out, and

971
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:16,040
Speaker 2: Olivia's like, you know, lets the record be known that

972
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:18,200
Speaker 2: she was not drunk. She was an amazing pilot. The

973
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 2: airplane says that they're at fall. Darren Petty, the actor

974
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:25,560
Speaker 2: who plays Andrew Mackelson, gets you know, his sort of

975
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:31,080
Speaker 2: do of like wiping his wife's name clean. Yes, and

976
00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:33,080
Speaker 2: then the quick wrap up of the end of the

977
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 2: episode is Tony calls in hallan Tom's so good, the

978
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 2: two fucking amazing secret Service agents, and he's like, what

979
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:44,239
Speaker 2: do I need to do to get out of here?

980
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:46,719
Speaker 2: They list this ridiculous shit. He's like, I'll do it

981
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:48,759
Speaker 2: for this, and it's a hilarious joke line because they're like,

982
00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:53,000
Speaker 2: he's just like forty three, whoa is he like George Bush?

983
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:56,600
Speaker 2: Oh no, forty three is George Bush Junior? Excuse me,

984
00:48:57,080 --> 00:48:57,640
Speaker 2: I'm an idiot.

985
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:00,480
Speaker 1: No, I looked it up yesterday. I was like, which

986
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:01,239
Speaker 1: one is forty three?

987
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:05,600
Speaker 2: Then it cuts to Quinn goes to Gideon's apartment. He

988
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:08,800
Speaker 2: owns up the door, She's crying in his arms, and

989
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:10,719
Speaker 2: where is Tony going.

990
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:12,960
Speaker 1: To Olivia's apartment? Right?

991
00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:15,560
Speaker 2: Olivia's apartment and she's on the phone with Stephen as

992
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:19,080
Speaker 2: she opens the door. And he did fuck the lady

993
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:21,440
Speaker 2: in the morgue and did cheat on whatever her.

994
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:24,680
Speaker 1: Name, Georgia, Georgia, yeah, Georgia.

995
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:28,480
Speaker 2: And he says it's Amanda was pregnant, but it was

996
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:29,960
Speaker 2: not Fitz's baby.

997
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:33,360
Speaker 1: And right there, Olivia opens the door and Tony's standing

998
00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:36,319
Speaker 1: right there. So good, it's so good.

999
00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:39,839
Speaker 2: I mean, the episode is a banger, but this talk

1000
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:40,440
Speaker 2: really quickly.

1001
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:42,440
Speaker 1: The moment with you and Gideon at the door, that

1002
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:45,920
Speaker 1: was such a beautiful scene, Katie. Oh, you were so

1003
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:48,920
Speaker 1: so good, Like all those emotions that you had throughout

1004
00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:52,400
Speaker 1: the episode that the audience has, like it was released

1005
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:55,439
Speaker 1: through you in that scene and it was so good.

1006
00:49:58,120 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 1: I got it today.

1007
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:02,480
Speaker 2: Actually, I don't remember if I used a tearstick for

1008
00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:04,360
Speaker 2: that scene or not. I can't remember.

1009
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:07,360
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter because it was so good, and Gideon

1010
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:08,080
Speaker 1: was so good.

1011
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:10,560
Speaker 2: He was really good, and I, you know, all I

1012
00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:13,239
Speaker 2: was thinking about was like, oh, fuck, here's where we

1013
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:16,520
Speaker 2: go into the grilled cheese sex scene, which we're gonna

1014
00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:18,640
Speaker 2: get you in next episode.

1015
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:22,320
Speaker 1: Katie, I'm feeling like we should get into.

1016
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:25,239
Speaker 2: Tweet tet twetwe twet twet twet, tweet, tweet tweet.

1017
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:28,320
Speaker 1: Tweet, tweet, tweet, tweel the top tweetweeteetwo tweet.

1018
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:32,200
Speaker 2: Is there any Scandal tweets of the time that we

1019
00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:35,400
Speaker 2: should read that we feel like are hilarious? Need to

1020
00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:38,320
Speaker 2: be mentioned? This is great? Tiffany Carter at tiff d

1021
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:42,000
Speaker 2: car Tom on April twenty eighth, twenty twelve, wrote fact

1022
00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:45,239
Speaker 2: Kerrie Washington first African American lead actress and network show

1023
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:50,560
Speaker 2: since sixties. Wow major true ps hashtag major fashion on

1024
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:54,239
Speaker 2: Scandal ABC. Yeah, guys, that shit was true. She at

1025
00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:58,880
Speaker 2: the time, Carrie was the first African American leading lady

1026
00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:01,880
Speaker 2: of a network drama in thirty seven years.

1027
00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:02,400
Speaker 1: Wow.

1028
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:07,000
Speaker 2: The last drama was in nineteen sixty eight and it

1029
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:11,280
Speaker 2: was Julia played by Diane Carroll. But like since Diane

1030
00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:13,480
Speaker 2: Carroll that had there had not been an African American

1031
00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:16,839
Speaker 2: leading lady of a drama in thirty seven years. How

1032
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:18,880
Speaker 2: insane is that?

1033
00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:22,480
Speaker 1: And that it was successful and that the show lasted

1034
00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:25,680
Speaker 1: so long. You know, it's such a such a wonderful thing.

1035
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:29,040
Speaker 2: It had to be successful. I mean the problem because

1036
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:33,320
Speaker 2: sliding Doors. Had Scandal not been successful, there would have

1037
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:36,320
Speaker 2: never been another black leading lady again, like for a

1038
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:38,000
Speaker 2: long time, you know what I mean. They would have

1039
00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:40,200
Speaker 2: been like, well, clearly that didn't work, so we're not

1040
00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:42,759
Speaker 2: going to take that risk again, whoever the they is.

1041
00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:47,520
Speaker 2: But thank god everyone is amazing and watched the show

1042
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:51,560
Speaker 2: because then after Carrie, it was like it opened up

1043
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:56,120
Speaker 2: so many doors to like there being all different looking

1044
00:51:56,239 --> 00:52:01,800
Speaker 2: types of people as leads of network shows. Okay, Matt Mitovich,

1045
00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:05,279
Speaker 2: who was a very huge supporter of Scandal for so

1046
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:09,160
Speaker 2: long at Matt Midivich on April twenty six tweeted, reminder,

1047
00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:11,640
Speaker 2: tonight at about nine to fifty five is when Scandal's

1048
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:16,600
Speaker 2: scandalousness spikes for consecutive weeks straight through to the finale.

1049
00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:20,200
Speaker 2: So yes, I guess we were like gaining some traction.

1050
00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:22,600
Speaker 2: I guess like four people were watching the.

1051
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:27,439
Speaker 1: Show, right, Jersey Fame, that's it. She says, Oh my god,

1052
00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:32,399
Speaker 1: Scandal ABC was straight crazy. Kerry Washington, you better act,

1053
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:35,560
Speaker 1: you better act boo hashtag scandal.

1054
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:40,600
Speaker 2: Uh heck yeah, Lego, What the hell does that mean? Franklin, Oh, Lego,

1055
00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:43,080
Speaker 2: I'm an idiot, but you learn something new every day.

1056
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:45,080
Speaker 1: I think I think it's like that, right, I think

1057
00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:47,120
Speaker 1: it's like let's go or something like that.

1058
00:52:47,239 --> 00:52:50,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, they wrote s B. Franklin wrote at Scandal ABC,

1059
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:53,400
Speaker 2: uh heck yeah, leg go hashtag scan I'm ready to

1060
00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:57,920
Speaker 2: gladiate or whatever, which was Quinn's line hashtag Scandal quotes.

1061
00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:04,600
Speaker 2: L dave Net wrote, replying to Josh Molina, Josh Molina, you, sir,

1062
00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:09,319
Speaker 2: are the glue that holds Scandal ABC together. Also, you've

1063
00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:13,319
Speaker 2: left sticky fingerprints all over my TV. Please stop. Yeah,

1064
00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:15,240
Speaker 2: the person are they friends?

1065
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:17,359
Speaker 1: I don't know what you mean. Like when he put

1066
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 1: peanut butter on on Porsche de Rossies like car handle.

1067
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:25,560
Speaker 2: But fucking whipped cream and shaving cream all over my

1068
00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:30,000
Speaker 2: trailer doors, all over my car doors. Oh yeah, he

1069
00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:31,400
Speaker 2: put that shit over my car or handles.

1070
00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:33,640
Speaker 1: We have to do a whole episode of the ship

1071
00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:37,640
Speaker 1: that Josh pulled. Josh, Yeah he did. What do you

1072
00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:40,359
Speaker 1: say well, he called me, changed his voice and left

1073
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:42,200
Speaker 1: me a message on my voicemail saying he was a

1074
00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:45,200
Speaker 1: New York City police detective and that I was in

1075
00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:49,160
Speaker 1: big trouble. And Katie that whole day me being so anxious,

1076
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:52,200
Speaker 1: I was an emotional mask because I was like, Oh

1077
00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:53,520
Speaker 1: my god, what have I done?

1078
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:57,880
Speaker 2: Molina got a voice changer on his phone that he

1079
00:53:57,920 --> 00:53:59,800
Speaker 2: could leave voicemails, and it didn't sound like him. He

1080
00:53:59,880 --> 00:54:03,399
Speaker 2: like me a voicemail that said, we've got your phone

1081
00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:07,720
Speaker 2: number and we heard some scoop on Scandal about someone's behavior.

1082
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:10,000
Speaker 2: You need to call it back immediately. And I was

1083
00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:12,360
Speaker 2: shitting bricks because I was like, how did a reporter

1084
00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:13,479
Speaker 2: get my cell phone number?

1085
00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:15,400
Speaker 3: Like, and I've never been on a show that's successful,

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Speaker 3: and I don't know what to say, and am I

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Speaker 2: And I don't even have a publicist. We're gonna do

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Speaker 2: when we have josh On, We're gonna go real hard.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about all this stuff.

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Speaker 2: Hell yeah, praanking he did. Those are some tweets at

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Speaker 2: the time. This has been such an amazing episode of

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Speaker 2: Scandal Rewatch podcast because it ended up with tears and

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Speaker 2: praise and Garmo Diez just doing the most incredible dramaturgical

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Speaker 2: researcher work on every guest star on the Scandal show.

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Speaker 2: And they are so appreciative, and I am so appreciative

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Speaker 2: of the work you've done.

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Speaker 1: I can't imagine doing this with anyone else but you, like,

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Speaker 1: it's truly a gift that we get to do this.

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Speaker 2: You guys, please tell your friends that this is a

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Speaker 2: Tell all your Gladiator friends rewatch the show. Next week

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Speaker 2: we are going to be talking about episode one oh six,

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Speaker 2: the Trail, which is literally one of the most famous

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Speaker 1: Gus so good, so so good.

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Speaker 2: Make sure you subscribe. Tell your friends episode one o

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Speaker 2: six the Trail is coming. And thank you so much

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Speaker 2: for listening Yeah to the Scandal. We watch podcasts.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Gladiators. We love you guys.

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Speaker 2: We love you guys so much.

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Speaker 1: Thank you guys for joining us on Unpacking the Toolbox.

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Speaker 1: If you enjoyed the show, please subscribe, share with your friends, rate,

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Speaker 1: or leave us a review.

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Speaker 2: Scandal is executive produced by Sandy Bailey, Alex Alcea, Lauren Homan,

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Speaker 2: Tyler Klang, and Gabrielle Collins. Our producer and editor is

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Speaker 2: Vince de Johnny, with music by Chad Fisher.

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Speaker 1: Scandal is a production of eight Signature and you can

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Speaker 1: follow along by rewatching Scandal on Hulu.

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