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Speaker 1: tomorrow tonight, Um, and this whole week is is you know,

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Speaker 1: moving on, but but learning, taking a hard look at yourself,

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Speaker 1: learning from these mistakes and then moving on and trying

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Speaker 1: to go win another game. Running back was Sean McCoy.

428
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Speaker 1: The Bills move forward after a tough loss, play together

429
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Speaker 1: at one point the fingers, but we will definitely be

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Speaker 1: critical to each other, you know, be honest with each

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Speaker 1: other in the face and in the mirror and make corrections. Um.

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Speaker 1: I mean it's one game. We lost our first game.

433
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Speaker 1: All that happens, and that's at the end of the season.

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Speaker 1: But we have to be urging in fixing things down

435
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Speaker 1: and watching this tape we got learning from this film

436
00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:02,480
Speaker 1: see what really went wrong. So it's hard to talk

437
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Speaker 1: about it now, but somehow we watched the tape. Man,

438
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Speaker 1: this guy's gotta be critical and be honest and just

439
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Speaker 1: get it together. Defensive end Jerry Hughes on the struggles

440
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Speaker 1: of the Buffalo defense. Today just wasn't our day. Baltimore

441
00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:17,840
Speaker 1: came out they executed us. They scored more points than us.

442
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Speaker 1: We just couldn't get to Joe in enough time to

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Speaker 1: kind of create havoc on their game planning to kind

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Speaker 1: of cause the start back there. So you gotta tip

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Speaker 1: your hats to them. They came out and played better

446
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Speaker 1: today than what we do. Safety Micah Hyde on Baltimore's

447
00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:36,359
Speaker 1: offense in the first half, they could basically do anything. Obviously,

448
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Speaker 1: running the ball was was tough for them, but um,

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Speaker 1: you know, I think on the outside and in the

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Speaker 1: back end, you know, they were just play action passing

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Speaker 1: and get some guys open. Um. You know, the few

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Speaker 1: times he got some time rolled out, it seemed like

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Speaker 1: he had, you know, six seven, eight seconds to throw

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Speaker 1: the ball away across the back, back across the field.

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Speaker 1: So you know, those plays like that, those are gonna happen.

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Speaker 1: You know, for their first fifteen plays that that they

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Speaker 1: screed um, you know, especially that first drive they had,

458
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Speaker 1: they they earned a lot of it. They had the

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Speaker 1: sixth moving that's kind of one of those things you've

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Speaker 1: got to flush and go back out there. But I

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Speaker 1: get the credits and then they they did their things

462
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Speaker 1: today and they knew how to beat this quarterback Josh

463
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Speaker 1: Allen entering the game when the Bills were wayed down,

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Speaker 1: there was a situation where obviously, like you said, it's

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Speaker 1: not the most desirable situation. Um, I was going in

466
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Speaker 1: just trying to make place, trying to you know, help

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Speaker 1: this offense and move the ball. Um. You know, we

468
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Speaker 1: didn't put many points on the board, and it's a

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Speaker 1: tough team to start out with, you know. Fortunate enough

470
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Speaker 1: in the nflis is one game. It's one loss, and

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Speaker 1: you got fifteen fifteen more optunities to go out there

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Speaker 1: and play well. There you going units around the locker room,

473
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Speaker 1: some of the voices in the Buffalo Bill's locker room

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Speaker 1: in Baltimore yesterday, Steve, take a look at the tweets.

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Speaker 1: What do you got? Yeah, this is from Scott Pillochette.

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Speaker 1: It has to be Allan. It's talking about the starting quarterback.

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Speaker 1: It has to be Alan. He had more yards and

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Speaker 1: two drives than Peterman had old game at Allan's athleticism

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Speaker 1: is able to make plays and move the chains. Peterman

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Speaker 1: seems to be a practice time hero in a game

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Speaker 1: time zero. And that's from Scott Pillowshett. One of the

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Speaker 1: things about and I said it earlier in the show.

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Speaker 1: We all saw it. In the preseason, Nate Peterman played

484
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Speaker 1: better than any of the quarterbacks Incamp, no question about it.

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Speaker 1: He just he was more consistent, He moved the ball better.

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Speaker 1: Even in the games they looked sharper with him under center,

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Speaker 1: so you kind of say shrug your should and said, yeah,

488
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Speaker 1: he earned it, he earned the starting job. But man

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Speaker 1: oh man, that has never even in the three starts

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Speaker 1: we've seen, it has not translated over into game time,

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Speaker 1: and that's been I think that's the concern with Peterman's

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Speaker 1: It's kind of a puzzle. Chris Brown and I talked

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Speaker 1: about it. Chris and I, by the way, here's a

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Speaker 1: little plug for a show that we started on social

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Speaker 1: media this morning, Monday Morning Breakdown on our various social

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Speaker 1: media platforms Mondays at ten am. Chris and I have

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Speaker 1: kind of a morning after discussion of what went on

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Speaker 1: the day before. But Chris gott talking about it, and

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Speaker 1: I thought that's a good point. There might be a

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Speaker 1: disconnect between what Peterman is capable of in practice and

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Speaker 1: even in preseason games, and what he's capable of when

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Speaker 1: when the bullets fly for real, we might be witnessing

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Speaker 1: that Here's an interesting tweet from Kyle PLoP. He says,

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Speaker 1: keep Peterman in through game three. If there's no improvement

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Speaker 1: or we keep needing to bench him, then start Josh Allen.

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Speaker 1: He said, I'm afraid Allen will get demolished, and I

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Speaker 1: think Peterman should get a few consecutive starts to actually

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Speaker 1: show if he is competent. The part I get a

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Speaker 1: scott or Kyle, and I understand your sentiment. The part

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Speaker 1: about Josh Allen getting demolished, I don't. That doesn't register

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Speaker 1: with me. Look, I'm not saying be reckless with him, Steve,

512
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Speaker 1: but you don't to let him play. Yeah, he's a player,

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Speaker 1: he's players got to play. He's a seventh overall pick.

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Speaker 1: He's a big, strong guy. He's a full grown man.

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Speaker 1: You know, if if they think he gives him the

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Speaker 1: best chance to win, you got to play him. And

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Speaker 1: I think that should be the consideration, not you know,

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Speaker 1: can he survive this or can We would be doing

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Speaker 1: him a disservice to plug him in when when things

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Speaker 1: are going bad. I think there's a SENTI register with me.

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Speaker 1: And there is a sentiment too that if if you

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Speaker 1: do keep playing Peterman and starting him in at first

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Speaker 1: three or four games and they pick your number or um,

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Speaker 1: there is the that thought that you know what you're

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Speaker 1: gonna know, see because right now, I mean you think

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Speaker 1: you know with two starts, one in a rainstorm opening

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Speaker 1: the season, the last coming in off the bench when

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Speaker 1: Tyrod Taylor was what was benched after the New Orleans game, UM,

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Speaker 1: and then the snow Globe game. You know, do you

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Speaker 1: still not know about him? Is he still at that

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Speaker 1: point where it's the offensive line in front of him

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Speaker 1: or there's not enough help around him. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: If you leave him in three enough games you probably

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Speaker 1: answer that question. Uh, I will can I will say

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Speaker 1: this about Nathan Peterman. I was thinking about it this morning.

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Speaker 1: He is kind of a hard luck guy when you

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Speaker 1: look at it, kind of is the rain. You were

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Speaker 1: there right now. I'm gonna ask you about the rain

539
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Speaker 1: of a minute. But the snow game was ridiculous that

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Speaker 1: the early started at Los Angeles with interceptions off people's hands.

541
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Speaker 1: You can choke. But yeah, but and he hasn't played well,

542
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Speaker 1: but it's it's really tough luck. And you you were

543
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Speaker 1: right there. It had to be hard to get. And

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Speaker 1: I gave Flacco all the credit in the world. Um,

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Speaker 1: because he got it done in that weather. But that

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Speaker 1: was rough. It never stopped. Yeah, it was bad, and

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Speaker 1: uh and I get it. You got to play through that.

548
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Speaker 1: And certainly Joe Flacco and you know, his hands are

549
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Speaker 1: huge and just like Josh Allen's hands are big. H

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Speaker 1: And it does make a difference. And you're right, he

551
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Speaker 1: is a little bit. I'm like he I don't know,

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Speaker 1: if I can't remember, I think they were leading the

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Speaker 1: game when Peterman went out and the Indianapolis camera wasn't

554
00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:30,879
Speaker 1: tied up. I can't remember. But you know, you know,

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Speaker 1: he is a little bit of hard luck to start.

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Speaker 1: You know that the conditions yesterday did not you know,

557
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:39,359
Speaker 1: weren't helping anybody. Uh. Certainly the Ravens and Joe Flacco

558
00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:41,920
Speaker 1: overcame the conditions better than the Buffalo Bills did. They

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Speaker 1: did everything better. So, but you're right, there is that

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Speaker 1: about Nathan Peterman. And thus far in his career he's

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Speaker 1: had a couple of starts where you know, the first

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Speaker 1: one absolutely was on him, and there's a couple of

563
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Speaker 1: you know, plays that wild weren't his fault that went

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Speaker 1: his way, and then he tried to cover for him

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Speaker 1: and things spiral out of control. He did not play

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Speaker 1: well in that no matter how you slice it, though,

567
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Speaker 1: And if you're gonna find out about him to the

568
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Speaker 1: bitter end, you know, you can play him. You can,

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Speaker 1: you can throw him in there a few more games

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Speaker 1: and you'll find out. But what are you gonna do

571
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Speaker 1: if he you know? Then then what are you gonna

572
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Speaker 1: do If he plays in okay, you know, just okay

573
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Speaker 1: um and doesn't lose the game, but you still can't win, um,

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Speaker 1: And then what are you doing? So I get that,

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Speaker 1: but after showing like yesterday, man, it's hard to make

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Speaker 1: the argument. Why they would, you know, start hanging in

577
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Speaker 1: there and throwing him back out there. They might, they

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Speaker 1: might do it because uh, it just I don't know,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know. That's it's a hard

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Speaker 1: argument to make right now. When I looked up the

581
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Speaker 1: I just look at up Bill's Colts. Bills are up

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Speaker 1: seven or nothing in that snowstorm when Peterman left the

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Speaker 1: game in the third quarter, so he left with the

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Speaker 1: league left with the lead. Let's take a couple of

585
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Speaker 1: phone calls. Here, Mark calling from Buffalo. Hello, Mark, go ahead,

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Speaker 1: you're on the air. Good morning, guys, good afternoon. Oh

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Speaker 1: you guys all probably don't care much about this, but

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Speaker 1: I thought it was sort of interesting and funny. Just

589
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Speaker 1: before I put on your show, I had an ESPN

590
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 1: on and Stephen A. Smith called the Bills straight garbage,

591
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 1: an abomination and possibly the worst team of the decade.

592
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 1: They were yet they were in the conversation yesterday, but

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00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:20,359
Speaker 1: let's watch the rest of the season before we start

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Speaker 1: making that determination. They listened that game yesterday. You would

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Speaker 1: be hard pressed to find a team that looked worse

596
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Speaker 1: in a game than that. That's true and that, but

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00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,399
Speaker 1: it was one game. I have one other quick comment.

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Speaker 1: I was sort of expecting with the lack of talent

599
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Speaker 1: we have at wide receiver, which is very apparent now

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Speaker 1: after several seasons, I was really expecting Dable to come

601
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Speaker 1: out with some tight end packages and the fact that

602
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 1: we have three really talented guys from what I can

603
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Speaker 1: tell in Thomas, Clay and Kroom at the tight end

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00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 1: of position, that he would have some different looks and

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Speaker 1: possibly even have all three of those guys on the

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Speaker 1: field all the same time, creating seize mismatches with DBS.

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Speaker 1: And I was shocked to see a lack of any

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Speaker 1: of that, and I also thought there was a they

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Speaker 1: still didn't get back to the Carolina game with all

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Speaker 1: the prestamp movement. You're right, a very good point. Mark

611
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:20,200
Speaker 1: point Chris Brown's coming out at one. He actually did

612
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Speaker 1: a chart and we were talking about it on the

613
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 1: morning show we did today, about the formations they lined

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Speaker 1: up with and how much eleven personnel they had on

615
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Speaker 1: the field, especially first half, which means three wide receivers. Look,

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Speaker 1: they want to spread them out, they want to open

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Speaker 1: up some lanes for McCoy in the run game by

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Speaker 1: having a wide receivers on the field. But it wasn't working,

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Speaker 1: and I agree with it. I needed to see more.

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Speaker 1: I needed to see more versatility from what they were

621
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Speaker 1: showing on offense, and needed to see more pre snap movement.

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00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:46,920
Speaker 1: There wasn't a whole lot of that going on. Yeah,

623
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Speaker 1: and you kind of expect that a little bit, and

624
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 1: maybe they kind of shied away from it because of

625
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:56,960
Speaker 1: the conditions. I don't know, but it's a good question.

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Speaker 1: It's a good question, certainly though in the aftermath you

627
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:04,200
Speaker 1: question everything, and you believe me, the first people who

628
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:06,480
Speaker 1: were questioned it, or the coaches themselves about what we did,

629
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Speaker 1: what we could have done, what we should have done better,

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Speaker 1: What were they doing? How do they see us? And

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Speaker 1: I think that's one of the big questions is what

632
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Speaker 1: they didn't know how Baltimore was going to look at

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Speaker 1: their offense. And Baltimore being the defensive that they had

634
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Speaker 1: with all those veteran guys, the same eleven or fifteen

635
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Speaker 1: guys that play in that defense are kind of all

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00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:26,280
Speaker 1: back this season, they had a better handle on what

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Speaker 1: they did than the Bills were had on how they

638
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:31,600
Speaker 1: were perceived. Now, the Bills hadn't and I we said

639
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:33,680
Speaker 1: going in it was probably a plus for the Buffalo

640
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:36,600
Speaker 1: team that they didn't that the Ravens didn't know what

641
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,240
Speaker 1: their offense was going to look like, But in actuality,

642
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 1: the Bills didn't know how the Ravens were going to

643
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 1: perceive them and couldn't take advantage of it. The Ravens

644
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 1: didn't have to do much defensively. They could sit back

645
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 1: and say, Okay, what are you going to try and

646
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 1: do against us? And their front, you know, with a

647
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 1: pass rush and their run stuffing ability, you know, really

648
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 1: carried the day. So you never really got a chance

649
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:01,000
Speaker 1: to see around that corner. As to what you know,

650
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Speaker 1: whether whether it was the Bills and their game plan,

651
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 1: or whether it was the talent on the Baltimore defense,

652
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:10,840
Speaker 1: or whether it was something else. So there was a

653
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:14,440
Speaker 1: lot going on there, and I think the Bills coaches staff,

654
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:16,200
Speaker 1: you can bet they're the ones questioning what they did

655
00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:18,239
Speaker 1: yesterday as much as anybody else is. You gotta take

656
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Speaker 1: a break here when we come back. Fred Jackson joins us,

657
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:23,600
Speaker 1: a long time Bill's running back. He just debuted last

658
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Speaker 1: night on the brand new edition of Bills Tonight with

659
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Speaker 1: Mike Catalano, the postgame show eleven thirty on MSG. We'll

660
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 1: talk with Thread his observations on yesterday's Bills lost when

661
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Speaker 1: we come back. John Murphy, Steve Tasker One Bills Live

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Speaker 1: from One Bill's Drive on Buffalo Bill's radio show. It's

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Speaker 1: called One Bills five. We go noon to three every

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Speaker 1: day Monday through Friday. Today Monday at twelve thirty. It

665
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:56,120
Speaker 1: seems like it's gonna be a long week, doesn't It

666
00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:57,960
Speaker 1: will be all right? Keep telling me, we're giving me

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Speaker 1: all right. I'm listen. The Charger coming in town's home opener.

668
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:03,800
Speaker 1: It's gonna be great, but I'm just calling for it.

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Speaker 1: I don't even chatted. I was gonna be sunny, gotta

670
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 1: be sunny weather. We're gonna yeah, and I'm gonna be

671
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 1: in New York City doing the Miami Jet game. It'll

672
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 1: be good, It'll be good. It'll probably be pouring in

673
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 1: the Miami Jet game for me, because it seems to

674
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Speaker 1: do that when I'm on the sideline. I'm gonna get

675
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:24,200
Speaker 1: seventeen weeks of pouring rain. I'm just positive that you'll

676
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 1: never get rain like that the entire yesterday. It was

677
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:29,160
Speaker 1: rough yesterday. Joining us right now on the line is

678
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 1: a familiar face for Bills fans. One of the all

679
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 1: time most popular Buffalo Bills running back Fred Jackson just

680
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 1: retired officially this past offseason and started a new gig

681
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 1: with US on Sunday nights. Bills Tonight with Mike Catalana

682
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 1: made it's twenty eighteen debut last night, and Fred, they

683
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 1: could not have picked up easier game for you to

684
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:49,680
Speaker 1: work on, right for your first one? How bad was that?

685
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:52,160
Speaker 1: How rough was that for you? You You know what? It

686
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:54,480
Speaker 1: was tough, man, because you don't want to call out

687
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:56,240
Speaker 1: players and you don't want to say that they weren't

688
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 1: trying to anything. Like that. So you're trying to dance

689
00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:01,280
Speaker 1: them on that wall giving you know, yours, but you

690
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:03,959
Speaker 1: know what I think those guys are. Yeah, I mean

691
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:06,320
Speaker 1: it was hard. There was a couple of things particularly,

692
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Speaker 1: you know, one guy that really took a lot of

693
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:11,360
Speaker 1: heat after the game was Kelvin Benjamin, mostly because he's

694
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 1: such a big part of what they're trying to do offensively.

695
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 1: They're trying to get him the football and they really

696
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:19,640
Speaker 1: really didn't give him any real opportunities to contribute except

697
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Speaker 1: for you know, some overthrown balls and then the one pick,

698
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 1: and he looked like it made him look like he

699
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 1: was disinterested. You know, he's gonna take some heat for that,

700
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Speaker 1: and I'm sure he's he's looking at it thinking, you know,

701
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 1: I gotta play better. But by the same token, uh,

702
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 1: you know, he needs to. I'd love to see him

703
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 1: give him more credible opportunities as well. A couple of them.

704
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:43,080
Speaker 1: He's had a couple of fades down the sideline. One

705
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:45,160
Speaker 1: he had ended up batting the ball away from the

706
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Speaker 1: defensive back. The interception, I think he was he saw

707
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Speaker 1: the guy break on the ball. He was a little

708
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 1: surprised the ball came in there on him. But all

709
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:55,720
Speaker 1: in all, he's he took a little, he took a

710
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Speaker 1: little criticism for the way he played yesterday. He did,

711
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 1: you know, And one of the things that's tough about

712
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 1: this game is whenever you don't perform, it's always gonna be,

713
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 1: you know, a lot of criticism coming your way. But

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Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be something that motivates him. You know,

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Speaker 1: I would like to see more, you know, than just

716
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 1: jump balls thrown to him, you know, let him you know,

717
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Speaker 1: actually run some right, give him some best opportunities and

718
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:20,600
Speaker 1: mac players instead of have to make a jump ball

719
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 1: every time. So, uh, y'a. I'm looking forward to see

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Speaker 1: how he bounces back and uh, you know what, what

721
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:27,400
Speaker 1: kind of role they have him in this week? And

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00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:29,520
Speaker 1: I think, go ahead, well, I want to go ahead.

723
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Speaker 1: You gotta question. I was gonna say, yeah, I agree

724
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 1: with you about the jump ball. That no, no question,

725
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 1: he's gifted for that. He's an enormous guy you can play.

726
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:38,720
Speaker 1: But I think you're right. I mean, and by the

727
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:43,000
Speaker 1: same token, it brings up another question too, somebody, you know,

728
00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 1: for for Nate Peterman and what he was going through

729
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 1: that we knew that the rest of the offense was

730
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Speaker 1: gonna kind of have to carry Nate Peterman along. He's

731
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Speaker 1: not an Aaron Rodgers like we saw last night on

732
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Speaker 1: Sunday Night Football. He's he's not gonna be a guy

733
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:55,640
Speaker 1: like a Joe Flager who carries the team on his

734
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Speaker 1: back and he decides who's gonna play. He needed somebody

735
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 1: to make a play for that offense, and yeah, it's

736
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 1: just nobody was able to do it. I think that's

737
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 1: kind of the frustrating part. If you look around that roster,

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Speaker 1: it's not all about Nate Peterman. It's about you know,

739
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:12,759
Speaker 1: nobody really stepped up and took the mantle of hey, listen,

740
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 1: watch me. Oh yeah. I mean, without a doubt, for

741
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 1: a young quarterback, you gotta have other, you know, workhorses

742
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 1: in the There wasn't any any form yesterday. And I

743
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:26,320
Speaker 1: think some of that you have to give credit to Baltimore.

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00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 1: You know, they're great h They came out and they

745
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:32,919
Speaker 1: executed their game, playing the way they want. I think

746
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:34,480
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, you got to give

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00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:36,840
Speaker 1: them more credit than saying that it was Buffalo and

748
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 1: in their lack of ability to make for him, Yeah,

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00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 1: it would have it would have taken you know, a

750
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:44,480
Speaker 1: supernatural occurrence for Buffalo to show up in that game

751
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 1: yesterday and be the better team. Baltimore is primed for

752
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 1: a run this season. I don't think it's any question

753
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:51,840
Speaker 1: about I saw it coming in with the new receivers

754
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:54,720
Speaker 1: and Joe fla and Joe Flacco never gets the credit

755
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 1: in Baltimore he deserves for whatever reason. The guy can

756
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,759
Speaker 1: really sling it and started finally giving him some. They

757
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:04,279
Speaker 1: gave him three receivers. He threw a touchdown to each

758
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:06,239
Speaker 1: one of them. So I'm kind of with you on that.

759
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 1: Baltimore is a really good football team. But nevertheless, you know,

760
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:12,839
Speaker 1: forty seven to three, it is pretty hard to swallows.

761
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 1: It's a hard one to swallowing. At the same time,

762
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 1: it's what those guys said, you know, they have to

763
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 1: call me and look at the film today, which I'm

764
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:21,239
Speaker 1: sure of doing right now, and then they have to

765
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 1: flush it and learn from them move on. And it

766
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:26,920
Speaker 1: was a good test for him. It was a good

767
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 1: to figure out that, you know, we gotta be better,

768
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 1: and I think that's what the team will do on

769
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Speaker 1: the line. With Fred Jackson, former Bills running back the

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Speaker 1: new co host of Bills Tonight, works with Mike Catalana

771
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Speaker 1: on that show eleven thirty Sunday nights on MSG. Well,

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00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:41,960
Speaker 1: you know, we're talking about the offense, Fred, but the

773
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:44,839
Speaker 1: Bills are supposed to be a running team. I mean,

774
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 1: that didn't work yesterday. Twenty yards rushing in the first half.

775
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 1: What did you see there? What were the issues with

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00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 1: the run game? Why were they unable to get Shady

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00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 1: McCoy going at all? You know what? It just looked

778
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 1: like it was a struggle all around, you know, And

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00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 1: one of the things I think that that really stood

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00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:01,799
Speaker 1: out to me is Baltimore splent a lot of men

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00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 1: and men and second the box and whenever you see that,

782
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:08,280
Speaker 1: you have to have a receiver that takes that personally

783
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 1: and goes out and make plays in one on one coverage.

784
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:13,879
Speaker 1: And when you do that, they're definitely going to pull

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00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:15,719
Speaker 1: the safety out of the box. And you know, make

786
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:17,920
Speaker 1: those guys respect the passing game. And when you do

787
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 1: that and not be one dimensional like they were yesterday,

788
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 1: it's gonna make a tough let to do anything. And

789
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 1: like I said, Baltimore executed their game plan to the

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00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:30,959
Speaker 1: best of their abilities yesterday. You know, lining those guys

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00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 1: up man and man and putting safeties in the box

792
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 1: to continent. Yeah, we talk a lot about it. You

793
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 1: mentioned a moment ago and I've said it as well.

794
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:40,360
Speaker 1: The players and the coaches there you kind of you

795
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 1: watch it, you learn you're really self critical. H You

796
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 1: know that there were some things that look bad that

797
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 1: weren't as bad as they looked, and a lot of

798
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:49,920
Speaker 1: things that looked good that weren't as good as they

799
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 1: looked on both sides of that equation. That it's easier

800
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:54,919
Speaker 1: I think for the players and coaches to put these

801
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:57,240
Speaker 1: games away after they look at that film and start

802
00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:00,480
Speaker 1: thinking about the next one. And for you and for us,

803
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:03,360
Speaker 1: what are your thoughts about, you know, moving forward? I

804
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 1: mean for us, I mean it's hard to make a

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00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 1: case for Nate Peterman is a starting quarterback going forward,

806
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:12,440
Speaker 1: is it not? I think it is, you know uh

807
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:15,840
Speaker 1: that I mean that's two games in a row that uh,

808
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 1: you know, he didn't finish the game, and actually three

809
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:21,400
Speaker 1: games all three he's been out there he didn't. I

810
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:24,799
Speaker 1: think it's it's hard to say, you know, moving forward

811
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 1: that he's gonna be the guy. And that sucks for

812
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 1: him because, um, you know, just today it wasn't all

813
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 1: on him. You know, it wasn't all his fault, and um,

814
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:37,280
Speaker 1: you know it's it's a quarterback driven league. When things

815
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 1: don't go the way they're supposed to do, quarterbacks get

816
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 1: a lot of blame for that. And uh, it's unfortunate

817
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 1: that that may be the case for him, is he

818
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:46,319
Speaker 1: gets all to blame for it, and you know he

819
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:48,879
Speaker 1: may have lost his job for it. Again, we don't

820
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:52,319
Speaker 1: know that, but you know it's it's gonna be hard

821
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:54,440
Speaker 1: to say that he's a guy that you go with. Uh,

822
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 1: you know, simply because of the outcome yesterday and you

823
00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 1: know that Alan got in there and you know took

824
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:02,759
Speaker 1: some snap just in the FRED. When you played here,

825
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:05,480
Speaker 1: you were a captain and a leader, and I wonder

826
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Speaker 1: what did you do in situations like this? I was

827
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:10,360
Speaker 1: second back to that. I think it was a Sunday

828
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:12,360
Speaker 1: night game against New England here at home when the

829
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 1: Bills absolutely got demolished by the Patriots. How do you

830
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 1: how do you as a captain kind of get the

831
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 1: team back on track after a loss like that and

832
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:22,920
Speaker 1: get them refocused? What's that process like and what role

833
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:25,600
Speaker 1: does the captain play? Yeah, I mean you addressed it

834
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 1: right away. You know, you talk about it, you say

835
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:31,239
Speaker 1: it was an ugly game for us since today, but

836
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:33,840
Speaker 1: we're not gonna let that define who we want to

837
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 1: be this season. Um, you know that was one game

838
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:40,719
Speaker 1: of sixteen and for us to be successful, we can't

839
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:47,920
Speaker 1: act like more Shaw on the spacetime put him on?

840
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 1: Can we get him on? We'll talk to Marshaw. Uh.

841
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 1: It's one of those things you have to, you know,

842
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:56,880
Speaker 1: tell those guys we're gonna move on and not focus

843
00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 1: on this game and not not let it be the

844
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:01,880
Speaker 1: game that decides our season. So I think that's what

845
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 1: guys are gonna have to do. I know that's what's

846
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:06,480
Speaker 1: Collas in there saying, Lorenzo and you know, even Sadi,

847
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:08,840
Speaker 1: all those guys are in there preaching them. What is

848
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 1: the next step? I think too, you're gonna have to

849
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Speaker 1: come out and no matter who's playing quarterback, I think

850
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Speaker 1: that with Josh Allen does get in the game, or

851
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:17,239
Speaker 1: if Nate Peterman does, you're gonna come up with some

852
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 1: things that you're gonna do differently. And I don't know

853
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Speaker 1: if you if you watched it this deeply, I know

854
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 1: you watched the guys were stacking the box against the

855
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:27,360
Speaker 1: Bills and defense against the Bills offense? What do you

856
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:29,360
Speaker 1: think about coming out with a game plan? What do

857
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:31,319
Speaker 1: you what do you see for the Chargers game? I mean,

858
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 1: how do you know, shift your eyes forward? And what's

859
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:37,879
Speaker 1: the first thing if if Fred Jackson the head coach

860
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 1: of the Bills, what's the first thing and the game

861
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:42,880
Speaker 1: plan wise is you're gonna do differently? I think the

862
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:45,480
Speaker 1: first thing you have to do is is if it's me,

863
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:47,600
Speaker 1: I'm coming out and I'm throwing you know, three or

864
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:50,360
Speaker 1: four balls deep. You know, make those guys respect the

865
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:52,760
Speaker 1: deep past and you know that's gonna keep that safety

866
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:54,759
Speaker 1: out of the boxing. We all know what Sady is

867
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:58,719
Speaker 1: capable of doing when he gets opportunities. So I'm gonna

868
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:01,440
Speaker 1: make those guys one men try to get some Boston

869
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:04,400
Speaker 1: fleted deep against him and able to do that. I

870
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 1: think that's up everything we want to do in the

871
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:09,400
Speaker 1: running game and makes it a lot easier, you know,

872
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:11,799
Speaker 1: and a lot better for those guys to run the ball.

873
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:13,959
Speaker 1: And Fred, is that a normal occurrence from Mars Shawn

874
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 1: on game day gives your call before the kickoffs, they

875
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:20,240
Speaker 1: look for tips. Is he called? Is it really often?

876
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:21,920
Speaker 1: We've been doing for a while now is you know,

877
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:24,360
Speaker 1: game day, we like to call each other and FaceTime

878
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:26,719
Speaker 1: and see how each other is doing, and you know,

879
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 1: always like to bush wishing luck. So yeah, today we're

880
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:31,759
Speaker 1: usually trying to get it in. He's got a game

881
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 1: tonight coming up ten twenty tonight. Fred, thanks for this.

882
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 1: We'll watch for you on Sunday night at eleven thirty

883
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:38,880
Speaker 1: on Bills Tonight with Mike Catalana. And we'll get you

884
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:40,759
Speaker 1: on again with us next Monday. Thank you very much.

885
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:44,400
Speaker 1: I'm good. I appreciate it. Fellows. Okay, Fred Jackson on

886
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:47,480
Speaker 1: the line. He's right. Those captains and Fred would have

887
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:50,439
Speaker 1: been great at this, and it did. They were bad

888
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:53,560
Speaker 1: losses when he was here. They bear some of the

889
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 1: responsibility today, don't they to get this he track and

890
00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 1: you can bet and and that's why that's one of

891
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:02,480
Speaker 1: the reasons, you know, Sean McDermot Brandon being kind of

892
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:04,799
Speaker 1: trying to instill the culture they did that was so

893
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:10,120
Speaker 1: successful last year because you've got smart, respectable, hard working,

894
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 1: really good players who step into the into the fray

895
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:14,600
Speaker 1: for the coaching staffs say listen, guys, that's not the

896
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:16,440
Speaker 1: way it's gonna be. You're gonna we're gonna play better.

897
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 1: We're gonna do We're gonna practice harder, we're gonna study harder. Uh.

898
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 1: That level that we put out on the field yesterday

899
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 1: is not good enough. We're gonna get better. And that's

900
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:28,560
Speaker 1: that's left up to the captains and the coaching staff

901
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:30,759
Speaker 1: as well. But when it comes from a player, guys

902
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 1: in the locker room who are going through the same

903
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:35,319
Speaker 1: thing as as you are as a player, uh, they

904
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:37,279
Speaker 1: hold a lot of credibility and they do set a

905
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 1: tone around the building. So you can bet that that's

906
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:45,279
Speaker 1: happening down at One Bill's Drive right now, that the

907
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:48,319
Speaker 1: captains and the coaching staff and the leaders on that

908
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 1: team are taking that stance in a big way. I mean,

909
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:53,400
Speaker 1: this is this is when you batten down the hatches

910
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:55,359
Speaker 1: big time and say, listen, this is gonna we ain't

911
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:57,759
Speaker 1: gonna let this season go this way. We're gonna step

912
00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:00,359
Speaker 1: up and change things. And that's that's the mind and said,

913
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 1: all right, we'll take a break. We're back with more,

914
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 1: including the sounds of the game from Steve Tasker when

915
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 1: we come back, come on back for that. It is

916
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Speaker 1: One Bills Live from One Bill's Drive and this is

917
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:24,240
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills Radio. Yep, we're here, We're live. We're standing

918
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:27,279
Speaker 1: one goes live from New Era of Field one Bills Drive.

919
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:30,440
Speaker 1: We're a little bit cloudy today. I did check on

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00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 1: sunday's weather for the Bills and Chargers. Steve, it's very

921
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:36,480
Speaker 1: cloudy today, no matter what it looks like outside Sunday,

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Speaker 1: mostly cloudy skies. The eighty thirty percent chance of rain.

923
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Speaker 1: That's the early forecast for the Bills Chargers games. Mostly cloudy,

924
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:45,520
Speaker 1: higher eighties should be okay. We want to talk to

925
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:47,880
Speaker 1: you about yesterday's game. Obviously, what would you do at

926
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 1: quarterback moving forward? Give us a call eight oh three

927
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Speaker 1: five fifty toll free one eight eight eight by fifty

928
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Speaker 1: two five fifty A call from Bob and Rochester. Bob,

929
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 1: go ahead, you're on the air. Good afternoon channel in Hi. Hi.

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00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:02,000
Speaker 1: All I have to say is I don't think there

931
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:04,880
Speaker 1: should be any debate at all who starts the quarterback

932
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:07,440
Speaker 1: at this point. It should be Josh Allen. And what

933
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:09,600
Speaker 1: I look to is I would ask you to look

934
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:15,359
Speaker 1: up Nate Peterman's total record, his quarterback rating on all

935
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:19,799
Speaker 1: the half that he's played, and everything. You know, it's

936
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:23,480
Speaker 1: it's in my fantasy league, he was the last rated

937
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:28,440
Speaker 1: quarterback in the entire league, behind second strings and behind

938
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 1: quarterbacks who are out. And I think that shows you that,

939
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 1: you know, he is definitely not starting material quarterback. And

940
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:39,839
Speaker 1: I had my doubts if he's even a backup. Well

941
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:41,879
Speaker 1: that might be Bob, and I get it. You're right,

942
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:43,839
Speaker 1: you can go back and his statistics have got to

943
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:47,719
Speaker 1: be worse than anybody. In fact, his statistics for the

944
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:49,880
Speaker 1: half he played yesterday in Baltimore were worse than this.

945
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:55,359
Speaker 1: His quarterback rating was worse yesterday than it was in

946
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 1: LA last year for the Chargers game. Yeah, he was

947
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:04,200
Speaker 1: one point. He was worse yesterday than he was at

948
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:08,120
Speaker 1: the LA Chargers zero quarterback reading day. But here's the thing,

949
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:10,799
Speaker 1: Bob can't you can't discount what he did. You can't

950
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 1: discount what he did to get onto the field again.

951
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 1: I mean, the guy. You can say what you want

952
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:17,680
Speaker 1: about his overall body of work, but the body of

953
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:19,799
Speaker 1: work that gave him an opportunity to get back on

954
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:21,880
Speaker 1: the field can't be ignored. It's in the hearings, in

955
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:25,200
Speaker 1: the now, and he is like every player, he's out

956
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:27,319
Speaker 1: there to get better and he's and he's gotten better.

957
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:29,839
Speaker 1: Despite what you saw on the field yesterday. We all

958
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 1: saw it in the preseason. The guy completed a ton

959
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:35,240
Speaker 1: of passes. The team looked better with him at quarterback

960
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:38,000
Speaker 1: than it did anybody else on the team. So that's

961
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:43,239
Speaker 1: how you got to yesterday. Now going forward, that's different.

962
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:48,719
Speaker 1: That's different. It's different games in the NFL, there is,

963
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:51,200
Speaker 1: but you got But Bob, you got to know you

964
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:53,239
Speaker 1: saw what everybody else saw in the preseason, right, I

965
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:56,440
Speaker 1: mean you saw the rationale for making him the starter. Correct.

966
00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:59,399
Speaker 1: I'm not debating them. Yeah, I get you so now, yeah,

967
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:03,720
Speaker 1: but I agree. The conversation now after yesterday has completely changed.

968
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:06,359
Speaker 1: Thanks Bob. Here's Joe and Rochester with I believe a

969
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:11,719
Speaker 1: different opinion. Joe, go ahead, right, No, guys, this is

970
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:15,440
Speaker 1: actually Trent from Rochester. From Rochester t R I P

971
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:20,759
Speaker 1: t R E N T like Trent. Trent got you, Trent,

972
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:24,399
Speaker 1: Sorry about that, Trent Edwards. That's okay. But just like

973
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 1: the other caller, of course, I'm for Josh Sallen, but

974
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:31,319
Speaker 1: maybe for a different reason, Josh Shallon, you guys will

975
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:35,000
Speaker 1: agree he is the future. Well based on Nick dermott

976
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:39,480
Speaker 1: wrong evaluation of the quarterbacks. That future is now. The

977
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:42,440
Speaker 1: difference between, of course, Alan and Peterman is not just

978
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:45,719
Speaker 1: what they can do on the field. One guy is

979
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 1: the future. We wanted to ease and then so that

980
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:51,200
Speaker 1: he wouldn't get roughed up or anything. But the truth

981
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 1: is he all those three quarterbacks, he's the best quarterback

982
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 1: on the roster still and regardless of what we're facing,

983
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 1: he'll give you a chance to make a better play.

984
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 1: So you're talking about Josh Allen, right, And here's the

985
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 1: thing about it. And while you were watching that game,

986
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:09,960
Speaker 1: I know everybody's thinking, when are they gonna put it

987
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:12,880
Speaker 1: in Josh Allen. I wanted him in no later than

988
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:16,600
Speaker 1: the start of the third quarter. But McDermott, this is

989
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 1: going to define him. If he rolls with Josh Allen,

990
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:22,440
Speaker 1: he's got a chance of being who we think he is.

991
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:27,880
Speaker 1: But he can fall and clash and die with Nate Peterman. So, guys,

992
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 1: my personal opinion, I hope the Nate Peterman experiment is over.

993
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:34,880
Speaker 1: I know he can cheeze here in preseason and practice,

994
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:38,120
Speaker 1: but Josh Allen is the future, and thanks to Nate

995
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:41,520
Speaker 1: Peterman yesterday, the future is now. Okay, Well that's a

996
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:44,120
Speaker 1: good I see you're what you're you're saying, and you're

997
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 1: right about all of that. Josh Allen is sooner or

998
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:49,840
Speaker 1: later going to be the guy in there taking every snap,

999
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:52,799
Speaker 1: and I think what happened yesterday may accelerate that. And

1000
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:55,239
Speaker 1: we all kind of, I don't know if we hope

1001
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:59,400
Speaker 1: or whatever we think it should happen. Yeah, And I

1002
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 1: think one thing that has taken effect here is the

1003
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:04,640
Speaker 1: fact that what you saw from Nate Peterman we've seen

1004
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:08,720
Speaker 1: already is kind of his ceiling. Not that he couldn't

1005
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:11,560
Speaker 1: play better than he did or make he just doesn't make.

1006
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 1: He can't make the throws Josh Allen makes. When Josh

1007
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 1: Allen's in the game, you've always got that added possibility

1008
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:19,759
Speaker 1: of a big play down the field. You've always got

1009
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:22,360
Speaker 1: that added possibility of him being able to make a

1010
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:25,239
Speaker 1: play the Nathan Peterman or a J. McCarron those guys

1011
00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:27,080
Speaker 1: can't make because they don't have the arm to get

1012
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:29,880
Speaker 1: it over there at least fast enough for it to

1013
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:33,239
Speaker 1: be a completion. And his athleticism is better too, So

1014
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:35,239
Speaker 1: the fact that he can run and that he can

1015
00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:39,320
Speaker 1: make and improvise on the run makes him more valuable

1016
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:41,959
Speaker 1: to this offense, particularly given the state of the offensive line,

1017
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:44,600
Speaker 1: than the other two, than the other quarterback, than nath Peterman,

1018
00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:48,440
Speaker 1: because he can improvise it because of his abilities better.

1019
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 1: The offensive line's going to require him to do that

1020
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:54,000
Speaker 1: a little bit because it's not it hasn't found itself yet.

1021
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:56,040
Speaker 1: I mean still a work in progress, to say the least.

1022
00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 1: That's going to be required to this quarterback. And Josh

1023
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:01,920
Speaker 1: Allen's better at it, better equipped to handle that kind

1024
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:05,880
Speaker 1: of situation. You see that too, Murph. Yeah, because of

1025
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:08,359
Speaker 1: his raw Yeah, because of his raw bill, because yeah,

1026
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 1: his raw material. You don't got a lot to learn.

1027
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:12,400
Speaker 1: You're not gonna have to learn about what to do

1028
00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:14,320
Speaker 1: in a game or how to run this Buffalo offense.

1029
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:16,320
Speaker 1: But they may have to put up with that because

1030
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:19,120
Speaker 1: they need a guy with those skills, you know, throwing

1031
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:21,280
Speaker 1: the ball, getting rip of the ball, getting into the outside.

1032
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:23,520
Speaker 1: It does not work. It did not work at all

1033
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:26,400
Speaker 1: yesterday with with Nathan right, And I think it's not

1034
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:28,400
Speaker 1: that you're gonna make a game plan around Josh Allen's

1035
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:30,120
Speaker 1: ability to go out there and run around like like

1036
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:32,399
Speaker 1: they did with Wilmar Jackson yesterday. You're not gonna give

1037
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:35,160
Speaker 1: him read options and have quarterback sweeps and all that,

1038
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:37,720
Speaker 1: because you want him to learn how to play NFL

1039
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:40,000
Speaker 1: quarterback and you want to see him do that. You

1040
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 1: want to give him reps doing that. So you're not

1041
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:44,680
Speaker 1: gonna steal those reps by making him run the read

1042
00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:47,440
Speaker 1: option or the triple option or some you know offense

1043
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:50,880
Speaker 1: like that. But when you drop back and the options

1044
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:53,880
Speaker 1: are taken and the and the pocket collapses, his ability

1045
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 1: to make a big throw down the field will keep

1046
00:48:57,080 --> 00:48:59,919
Speaker 1: the defense honest, and it also gives you that chance

1047
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:01,560
Speaker 1: and it may come through once in a while. Steve

1048
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 1: was on the sidelines yesterday and his role with the

1049
00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:07,319
Speaker 1: NFL on CBS, Rich Cannon and Kevin Harland, and Steve

1050
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:10,440
Speaker 1: was on the sidelines getting soaked. But each week, coming

1051
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:12,640
Speaker 1: off his weekend game, Steve's gonna join us and give

1052
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:15,440
Speaker 1: us his sideline sounds. What did you hear on the

1053
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:18,839
Speaker 1: sideline yesterday? Yeah, sidelines sounds brought to you by Bows,

1054
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:20,680
Speaker 1: the official headphones of the Buffalo Bills. And one of

1055
00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:22,400
Speaker 1: the things I do every week. I'm on the sidelines

1056
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:24,160
Speaker 1: of these NFL games, and it's easy for me to

1057
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Speaker 1: stand at the bench area and hear things that you

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Speaker 1: can't hear on the radio or TV broadcasts. It's either

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00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:35,279
Speaker 1: conversations or shouting matches or verbal confrontations between opponents. One

1060
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 1: of the things I saw yesterday was the Buffalo bench.

1061
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:39,359
Speaker 1: I was sitting standing over there. I was on both

1062
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:42,160
Speaker 1: sides of the field, around the Baltimore bench and around

1063
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:45,760
Speaker 1: the Buffalo bench. When I went over to the Buffalo

1064
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:49,719
Speaker 1: bench and they stuck Josh Allen into the lineup, guys

1065
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:52,239
Speaker 1: stood up and started watching. They were It was a

1066
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:56,120
Speaker 1: discouraging day, no doubt about it. Not much had gone

1067
00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:58,920
Speaker 1: gone right. But I even mentioned on the television broadcast

1068
00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:02,400
Speaker 1: that the sideline was energized by Josh Allen and his

1069
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:05,640
Speaker 1: ability to make plays. Um he made, He ran around

1070
00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:08,200
Speaker 1: a few things, started making some throws down the football field.

1071
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:10,959
Speaker 1: They made a few first downs, which yesterday was about

1072
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:14,320
Speaker 1: as good as it was gonna get um Squeezeac, yeah, exactly.

1073
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:18,040
Speaker 1: And but I will say this, his energy and his

1074
00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:22,160
Speaker 1: ability out there stood out, and you could hear the guys,

1075
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:24,120
Speaker 1: you could see it on their faces. And then the

1076
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:27,200
Speaker 1: sound of that game changed when Josh Allen hit the field.

1077
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:29,680
Speaker 1: And that's one of the things that I actually spoke

1078
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:33,680
Speaker 1: about on the broadcast on TV was that that game

1079
00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:36,480
Speaker 1: got better when Josh Allen got into it. And I

1080
00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:39,400
Speaker 1: think that's one of the things that that stuck with

1081
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:42,160
Speaker 1: me about the sounds of that game yesterday. Josh Allen

1082
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:44,000
Speaker 1: made a difference to what it sounded like not only

1083
00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:47,000
Speaker 1: on the on the broadcast, but also on their sidelines,

1084
00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:49,319
Speaker 1: and that speaks well to what he means to the

1085
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:51,560
Speaker 1: team and what those players think of him. Next week,

1086
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:53,920
Speaker 1: you will have sideline sounds from the Dolphins and the

1087
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:56,080
Speaker 1: Jets in New York. Right, Yeah, that's right. I'm gonna

1088
00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:58,440
Speaker 1: be on I'm gonna be in MetLife Stadium. The Jets

1089
00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:02,520
Speaker 1: hosting the Dolphins's pulled out that game in seven and

1090
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:06,000
Speaker 1: what seven plus hours it took him to finish that gasterday,

1091
00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:09,279
Speaker 1: I guess the times unbelievable. It's the longest game in

1092
00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:11,680
Speaker 1: NFL history. Bills game felt like it was about seven

1093
00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:15,439
Speaker 1: or eight hours yesterday. I don't want to, I don't

1094
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:17,560
Speaker 1: want to, but man, oh man, I looked up, I thought, wow,

1095
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:19,000
Speaker 1: this is a long game. I looked up and there

1096
00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:21,279
Speaker 1: was eleven minutes left in the fourth quarter. I thought, wow,

1097
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:23,600
Speaker 1: it really was like a preseason game in a lot

1098
00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:25,839
Speaker 1: of way. It really was. It was a rough game.

1099
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:28,600
Speaker 1: And I know Bills fans, I've talked. You know, obviously

1100
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:30,440
Speaker 1: you are the same as me. You had family at

1101
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:32,160
Speaker 1: the game, and I had friends watching the game back

1102
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:36,000
Speaker 1: here in Buffalo, a lot these Bills. As a Bills fan,

1103
00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:37,600
Speaker 1: I know what it's like. You get that angst in

1104
00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:39,640
Speaker 1: and the game's not going on. You just can't watch.

1105
00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:41,759
Speaker 1: You just have to leave. You just have to leave

1106
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:44,719
Speaker 1: the living room, you know, right, You just kind of

1107
00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:46,439
Speaker 1: come back. You kind of come back, and you touch

1108
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:48,280
Speaker 1: base every once in a while. You just you can't watch.

1109
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:50,960
Speaker 1: A lot of people did that. It's really rough, and

1110
00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:54,040
Speaker 1: I understand completely. Yeah. I just my son Jack one

1111
00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:56,440
Speaker 1: now for a run, he said, second half. He's getting

1112
00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:58,919
Speaker 1: ready for the marathon in a couple a month, six week.

1113
00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:00,920
Speaker 1: Jack did your under Oh yeah, I went out in

1114
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:04,480
Speaker 1: the second half. Yeah, people do that. I get it.

1115
00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:09,960
Speaker 1: It's everybody copes differently because it's stressful. Yeah, everybody's invested

1116
00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:12,160
Speaker 1: in that game, no more so than the players and coaches,

1117
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:15,640
Speaker 1: and they can't they're not going anywhere, but the fans.

1118
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:18,720
Speaker 1: You can't. You realize in that moment when the game's

1119
00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:22,200
Speaker 1: going south, that You can't affect it, right, You cannot

1120
00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:24,319
Speaker 1: affect it, particularly on a home on a road game.

1121
00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:26,560
Speaker 1: You just can't affect him. You can't stand it. We

1122
00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:28,560
Speaker 1: got a lot more ground to cover and a lot

1123
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:30,520
Speaker 1: more time to cover it in the next couple of hours.

1124
00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:32,480
Speaker 1: We're back after the break. At the top of the hour,

1125
00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:35,799
Speaker 1: Chris Brown, Bills Insider from Buffalo Bills dot COM's gonna

1126
00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:37,879
Speaker 1: join us for a little bit coming up next hour.

1127
00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:39,839
Speaker 1: Come on back for that One Bill's Life presented by

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00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:42,360
Speaker 1: Collat of Health from One Bill's Drive. And this is

1129
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:56,279
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill's Radio. Hello, Bills Radio Network Sports Update. Bills

1130
00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:58,120
Speaker 1: are back at work here and One Bills Drive trying

1131
00:52:58,120 --> 00:53:00,239
Speaker 1: to pick up the pieces, and there are pieces all

1132
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:02,640
Speaker 1: over the place. After yesterday's lost in Baltimore, head coach

1133
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:05,160
Speaker 1: Sean McDermott with plenty of issues to address in the

1134
00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:07,080
Speaker 1: wake of the blowout in Baltimore. He'll be asked about

1135
00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:09,799
Speaker 1: his quarterback situation when he meets the media today at

1136
00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:13,200
Speaker 1: four pm. Nayton Peterman yesterday starter lifting in the third quarter,

1137
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:16,640
Speaker 1: replaced by rookie Josh Allen. Peterman struggled badly, as did

1138
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:19,239
Speaker 1: the entire offense. The defense not much better, giving up

1139
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 1: forty seven points to the Ravens, including two ten play

1140
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:25,399
Speaker 1: scoring drives touchdown drives in the first quarter. Buffalo may

1141
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:27,720
Speaker 1: need to find some help in the defensive backfield. Vonte

1142
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:31,319
Speaker 1: Davis inactive yesterday. Nickel corner Tehran Johnson left the game

1143
00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:33,680
Speaker 1: in the first half with the shoulder injury. An update

1144
00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:37,120
Speaker 1: on Johnson's status expected from McDermot later today. Home opener

1145
00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:40,240
Speaker 1: coming up Sunday one o'clock against the Los Angeles Chargers.

1146
00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:43,480
Speaker 1: Two more football games to finish out the NFL weekend Tonight.

1147
00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:46,960
Speaker 1: Two Monday night games at the seven ten Tonight Ford

1148
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:49,480
Speaker 1: Field and Detroit features the New York Jets and the

1149
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:53,360
Speaker 1: Detroit Lions. It is the rookie debut of quarterback Sam Jarnald,

1150
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:55,560
Speaker 1: the number three overall picking the draft for the Jets.

1151
00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:58,280
Speaker 1: Matt Patricia makes his head coaching debut for the Lions

1152
00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:01,880
Speaker 1: in that game. Late tonight, TM the Rams and the Raiders.

1153
00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:04,640
Speaker 1: John Gruden back on an NFL sideline where the Raiders

1154
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:07,080
Speaker 1: at home tonight. Aaron Rodgers made it a return for

1155
00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:09,640
Speaker 1: the Ages last night. In the second half, the Packers

1156
00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:11,960
Speaker 1: came back from a twenty point deficit to score a

1157
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:15,040
Speaker 1: twenty four, twenty three victory over the Chicago Bears at

1158
00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:18,719
Speaker 1: lambeau Field. Ryan Fitzpatrick on fire yesterday, twenty one to

1159
00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:21,920
Speaker 1: twenty eight passes, four hundred and seventeen yards four touchdowns,

1160
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:24,680
Speaker 1: ran for a touchdown in a forty eight to forty

1161
00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:27,840
Speaker 1: win for the Tampa Bay Lightning at the superdomin New

1162
00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:30,680
Speaker 1: Orleans against the Saints and the Titans Dolphins. Game the

1163
00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:33,520
Speaker 1: longest game on record now in the National Football League

1164
00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:37,120
Speaker 1: thanks to a couple of lightning delays. The game featured

1165
00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:40,200
Speaker 1: the two kickoff return touchdowns as well. The Dolphins won

1166
00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:43,680
Speaker 1: it twenty seven to twenty The longest game in NFL history,

1167
00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:48,160
Speaker 1: went deep into the night that started at one o'clock yesterday.

1168
00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:52,279
Speaker 1: Savers Prospects Challenge continues right now, Buffalo leading Pittsburgh two

1169
00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:54,160
Speaker 1: to enough even the first game. The final game of

1170
00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:57,080
Speaker 1: the Prospect Challenge for Buffalo Savers training camp opens up

1171
00:54:57,200 --> 00:54:59,640
Speaker 1: on Thursday. That's the update from One Bills Drive, John

1172
00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:02,440
Speaker 1: Murphy Steve Tasker joined by our buddy Chris Brown, Bills

1173
00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:05,360
Speaker 1: Insider at Buffalo Bills dot Com in studio with us.

1174
00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:07,120
Speaker 1: You're like schefter. You know you pick up your phone

1175
00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:09,120
Speaker 1: when we're talking to you here and you're checking your

1176
00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:12,279
Speaker 1: text messages. You're like Adam Schefter. You know, he's just

1177
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:14,040
Speaker 1: being rude. By the way, I don't know you. I

1178
00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:17,320
Speaker 1: assume you're conducting some kind of business. Actually, I was

1179
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:19,640
Speaker 1: doing some math on my calculator there because you were

1180
00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:22,600
Speaker 1: rattling off fits his stats. They're even more impressive when

1181
00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:25,400
Speaker 1: you just told me the completion numbers. He only had

1182
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:27,760
Speaker 1: twenty one completions. He threw for four hundred and seventy

1183
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:30,480
Speaker 1: eight yards. That's twenty two yards over twenty two yards

1184
00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:33,600
Speaker 1: of completion. He fire ones. We forgot to ask Fred

1185
00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:35,759
Speaker 1: about that. We met. Yeah, we're gonna ask Funny Jackson

1186
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:38,440
Speaker 1: about it, but forgot. We got a sidetrack about Marshawn

1187
00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:41,239
Speaker 1: Lynch trying to did you catch that? The middle of

1188
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:43,080
Speaker 1: Fred's segment with us, his phone rings and goes, oh,

1189
00:55:43,120 --> 00:55:46,080
Speaker 1: mars Shawn's FaceTime in me right now? Lynch with a

1190
00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:47,640
Speaker 1: game tonight. By the way, he said, that's his right

1191
00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:50,239
Speaker 1: game day routine. Well, Chris, where do you? Where do

1192
00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:52,320
Speaker 1: you you laugh? When I wrote it and read it

1193
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:55,440
Speaker 1: about picking up the pieces pieces, scatter it all over,

1194
00:55:55,680 --> 00:55:57,640
Speaker 1: and you dispute that there's there's a lot of hits

1195
00:55:57,840 --> 00:56:00,240
Speaker 1: at today's game, there's there's a lot to pick up.

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00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:03,000
Speaker 1: I don't think there's any question about that, because it

1197
00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:04,719
Speaker 1: was I don't know if you call it an explosion

1198
00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:08,480
Speaker 1: or an implosion, probably an implosion in every way shaping

1199
00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:10,399
Speaker 1: for him. Every phase of the game had their seri

1200
00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:13,719
Speaker 1: of problems, and it's just it was the furthest thing

1201
00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:17,040
Speaker 1: from winning football that we've seen under Sean McDermott thus far.

1202
00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:20,360
Speaker 1: That's a good point. I mean, this is a performance

1203
00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:22,960
Speaker 1: like they never put together last year. I don't know

1204
00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:25,040
Speaker 1: that his Saints game is a close one, but yeah,

1205
00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:28,120
Speaker 1: not all three phases right. And one of the things

1206
00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:30,840
Speaker 1: about this game too, you kind of, as always, you

1207
00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:33,160
Speaker 1: try and search for whatever you might have gone right

1208
00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:35,600
Speaker 1: in the coaching staff, on the film and stuff. They'll

1209
00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:37,200
Speaker 1: be able to do a better job other than anybody.

1210
00:56:37,239 --> 00:56:40,000
Speaker 1: But by the same token, you look at guys like

1211
00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:44,480
Speaker 1: Tremaine Edmonds, pretty good showing by him, made a lot

1212
00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:47,759
Speaker 1: of tackles, spread the field, did a lot of things,

1213
00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:52,040
Speaker 1: almost had an interception, but then again he quarterbacked to

1214
00:56:52,120 --> 00:56:55,560
Speaker 1: defense that didn't play all that well. Right, He's not

1215
00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:59,080
Speaker 1: making the calls, but he is making checks. I know

1216
00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:02,080
Speaker 1: coach was happy with him being able to get things

1217
00:57:02,120 --> 00:57:05,520
Speaker 1: communicated even when Baltimore went no huddle, So I think

1218
00:57:05,560 --> 00:57:09,080
Speaker 1: he passed a test to a certain degree there. And

1219
00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:11,600
Speaker 1: I thought he played more aggressively than he did in

1220
00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:14,400
Speaker 1: the preseason. I don't know if that means that he's

1221
00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:17,280
Speaker 1: more confident or trusting more of what he sees in

1222
00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:19,560
Speaker 1: terms of his keys, but I think he's going to

1223
00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:21,840
Speaker 1: get there. I think it's a matter of when, not if,

1224
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:25,480
Speaker 1: because he's a pretty sharp kid and he's one of

1225
00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:29,000
Speaker 1: the few encouraging signs that probably came out of yesterday's game.

1226
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:30,680
Speaker 1: I love watching him play around now. It was kind

1227
00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:32,600
Speaker 1: of calling for a pregame too, Like, I know he's

1228
00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:34,760
Speaker 1: got a lot on his plate mentally, but I'm glad

1229
00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:37,160
Speaker 1: that he's flying around making plays. And is this the

1230
00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:40,400
Speaker 1: silver lining portion of our discussion with Chris because because

1231
00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:43,040
Speaker 1: it won't be long and Marcus Murphy. Yeah, And I

1232
00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:45,800
Speaker 1: thought Jerry Us played really well defensively, Chris, I really do. Yeah,

1233
00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:48,720
Speaker 1: he watched the video again this morning's disruptive. Yeah, disruptive.

1234
00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:51,280
Speaker 1: They had to devote a couple of past protection guys

1235
00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:53,200
Speaker 1: to him on many snaps. I thought US had a

1236
00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:57,000
Speaker 1: pretty good game yesterday. Yeah, I mean only got home

1237
00:57:57,040 --> 00:57:58,960
Speaker 1: and got close to getting home a couple of times.

1238
00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:01,120
Speaker 1: I don't know what it is. It just seems like

1239
00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:02,600
Speaker 1: it's hard. I mean, I know they've got a couple

1240
00:58:02,600 --> 00:58:05,800
Speaker 1: of sacks, but it just seems difficult for them to

1241
00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:09,400
Speaker 1: just get that last step to the quarterback. I think

1242
00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:13,280
Speaker 1: on that first drive by Baltimore, I mean, Lorenzo Alexander

1243
00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:16,240
Speaker 1: is about three inches away from batting the ball out

1244
00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:20,240
Speaker 1: of Flacco's hand, and he just gets pushed wide of

1245
00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:22,960
Speaker 1: him by the tackle in a last ditch kind of

1246
00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:25,800
Speaker 1: effort by Ronnie Stanley. He just kind of throws an

1247
00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:28,000
Speaker 1: arm at him that just knocks him off balance enough

1248
00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:31,120
Speaker 1: where he can't get a piece of that football as

1249
00:58:31,120 --> 00:58:33,640
Speaker 1: Flacco had his arm cocked. So, you know, I think

1250
00:58:33,680 --> 00:58:36,920
Speaker 1: I think he did pretty well. I wanted to get

1251
00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:39,280
Speaker 1: Steve stake on Marcus Murphy though. In terms of the

1252
00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:41,960
Speaker 1: return game, I mean, he was pretty productive. I mean,

1253
00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:44,000
Speaker 1: gave him a good field position. I mean had two

1254
00:58:44,120 --> 00:58:46,000
Speaker 1: thirty plus yard returns at the end of the day's

1255
00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:49,520
Speaker 1: averaging thirty three return Very nice. He did, did a

1256
00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:52,480
Speaker 1: really good job. The unfortunate part about kickoff returns? Is

1257
00:58:52,520 --> 00:58:54,919
Speaker 1: this the best team in the league always, every year,

1258
00:58:55,080 --> 00:58:57,680
Speaker 1: invariably one of the top teams, if not the top

1259
00:58:57,680 --> 00:59:00,000
Speaker 1: team in the league and kickoff returns or the team

1260
00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:02,400
Speaker 1: that has the most reps. Yeah, yeah, you get more pressed,

1261
00:59:02,440 --> 00:59:05,000
Speaker 1: they're getting scored on. It's it's It's just absolutely true.

1262
00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:07,200
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying anything about yesterday except the fact

1263
00:59:07,240 --> 00:59:09,920
Speaker 1: that you know, the Buffalo Bills got more reps on

1264
00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:12,200
Speaker 1: kickoff return than anybody in the league. Now, Marcus Murphy

1265
00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:13,760
Speaker 1: did a nice job and they did a nice job

1266
00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:17,120
Speaker 1: up in front of them, and hopefully that will continue

1267
00:59:17,120 --> 00:59:19,120
Speaker 1: to be the case. I think these teams are I

1268
00:59:19,120 --> 00:59:23,360
Speaker 1: think special teams coordinators as still getting their hand their

1269
00:59:23,440 --> 00:59:25,320
Speaker 1: arms around exactly what it's going to look like, what

1270
00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:27,840
Speaker 1: they can and can't do. We saw the Ravens get

1271
00:59:27,880 --> 00:59:31,680
Speaker 1: called for an illegal double team yesterday. I saw a

1272
00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:34,880
Speaker 1: couple of penalties during the day on different games where

1273
00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:37,400
Speaker 1: a guy had his foot off the line they started

1274
00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:39,800
Speaker 1: too quickly, an illegal formation on the kickoff. I think

1275
00:59:39,800 --> 00:59:42,840
Speaker 1: the Ravens had an illegal formation. Yeah, they their guys

1276
00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:46,760
Speaker 1: weren't aligned correctly, so they're still getting their arms around it.

1277
00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:50,600
Speaker 1: I still think the problem is, and I don't want

1278
00:59:50,600 --> 00:59:52,600
Speaker 1: to get too too much into this special teams thing,

1279
00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:54,880
Speaker 1: but when they when they're kicking the ball off, if

1280
00:59:54,880 --> 00:59:58,240
Speaker 1: it's in play, the return team and the coordinators have

1281
00:59:58,280 --> 01:00:02,360
Speaker 1: to have enough courage to drop their guys deep deeper

1282
01:00:02,360 --> 01:00:05,400
Speaker 1: than they have been because I think that's where the

1283
01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:07,920
Speaker 1: timing is going to work out the best for the returns.

1284
01:00:08,160 --> 01:00:10,680
Speaker 1: And most of them are dropping to the twenty five

1285
01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:14,600
Speaker 1: thirty yard line or outside the twenties, Certainly I think

1286
01:00:14,640 --> 01:00:17,520
Speaker 1: the timing would work out better for the return if

1287
01:00:17,520 --> 01:00:20,560
Speaker 1: they drop back another five to seven, maybe in ten

1288
01:00:20,680 --> 01:00:23,520
Speaker 1: yards deeper, because then the guy catches it, brings it

1289
01:00:23,560 --> 01:00:27,000
Speaker 1: out just at the point where all those coverage guys

1290
01:00:27,040 --> 01:00:29,440
Speaker 1: have got to avoid or get engaged, and when that happens,

1291
01:00:29,440 --> 01:00:31,360
Speaker 1: then you get a good return. But it takes a

1292
01:00:31,360 --> 01:00:33,200
Speaker 1: lot of courage to drop that deeper. Do you think

1293
01:00:33,240 --> 01:00:35,360
Speaker 1: coaches are resisting that because they're thinking, I don't want

1294
01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:38,960
Speaker 1: to compress the newfound space that my returner has, you

1295
01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:41,240
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like, don't drop that deeper because

1296
01:00:41,400 --> 01:00:43,760
Speaker 1: he's getting more space than maybe he's ever had before

1297
01:00:44,200 --> 01:00:46,680
Speaker 1: without coverage guys getting a running start. Why am I

1298
01:00:46,680 --> 01:00:48,800
Speaker 1: going to bring him down? There to my return man,

1299
01:00:48,840 --> 01:00:50,480
Speaker 1: do you think that might be? That? That's probably that

1300
01:00:50,680 --> 01:00:52,200
Speaker 1: probably is. But I think that if you talk to

1301
01:00:52,320 --> 01:00:55,200
Speaker 1: return guys, it's all about the timing. When you're running

1302
01:00:55,240 --> 01:01:00,320
Speaker 1: forward and you're gonna meet there just after that wave

1303
01:01:00,360 --> 01:01:02,440
Speaker 1: of coverage, guys gets to the want to make the

1304
01:01:02,480 --> 01:01:06,320
Speaker 1: point of engagement for your blockers right just after, just after,

1305
01:01:06,320 --> 01:01:09,760
Speaker 1: because once they meet, everybody starts to move. Then either

1306
01:01:09,800 --> 01:01:11,840
Speaker 1: try to avoid the block, or take the block on,

1307
01:01:11,960 --> 01:01:13,600
Speaker 1: or go to one side or the other one just

1308
01:01:13,720 --> 01:01:17,560
Speaker 1: after you decide that if you got two guys deciding

1309
01:01:17,560 --> 01:01:19,880
Speaker 1: opposite ways, you hit it at just the right time

1310
01:01:19,880 --> 01:01:21,440
Speaker 1: when they move away from each other, and there's a

1311
01:01:21,480 --> 01:01:24,040
Speaker 1: hole there naturally, so that's and you got to hit

1312
01:01:24,040 --> 01:01:27,760
Speaker 1: at full speed and then you're gone. When that happens,

1313
01:01:27,880 --> 01:01:31,040
Speaker 1: the return opens up a great deal more. But to

1314
01:01:31,080 --> 01:01:34,160
Speaker 1: do that, I've been noticing that the timing isn't right.

1315
01:01:34,240 --> 01:01:37,000
Speaker 1: Just there's too much space there. Oh, so they the

1316
01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:38,920
Speaker 1: guys have a chance. Asking those guys to block for

1317
01:01:38,920 --> 01:01:41,880
Speaker 1: too long, that's too hard. Exactly right, exactly right, And

1318
01:01:41,920 --> 01:01:44,160
Speaker 1: if if you could, just if you had the guts

1319
01:01:44,200 --> 01:01:47,600
Speaker 1: to drop them deeper, the timing would be better. Chris

1320
01:01:47,680 --> 01:01:49,960
Speaker 1: Brown Bills insider Buffalo Bills dot Com joins us a

1321
01:01:50,440 --> 01:01:52,600
Speaker 1: Twitter pull question today, Chris, we want you to win

1322
01:01:52,600 --> 01:01:54,800
Speaker 1: in in this if you would please. Who should start?

1323
01:01:54,840 --> 01:01:57,000
Speaker 1: It's a simple one too, Who should start a quarterback

1324
01:01:57,040 --> 01:01:59,640
Speaker 1: with the Bills against the Chargers on Sunday? On Twitter?

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01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:06,240
Speaker 1: Overwhelmingly say Josh Allen, say Nathan Peterman? Are you surprised

1326
01:02:06,360 --> 01:02:09,040
Speaker 1: by that? You know? It's a what have you done

1327
01:02:09,080 --> 01:02:12,160
Speaker 1: for me lately? League? And unfortunately Nathan Peterman his head

1328
01:02:12,200 --> 01:02:14,240
Speaker 1: and it is Monday morning after a forty seven to

1329
01:02:14,360 --> 01:02:17,840
Speaker 1: three two poor outings? Right, Um, what do first of all,

1330
01:02:17,880 --> 01:02:20,120
Speaker 1: what do you think will happen? And which way would

1331
01:02:20,120 --> 01:02:23,480
Speaker 1: you go with this? Well? Here, here's here's the way

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01:02:23,520 --> 01:02:26,280
Speaker 1: I'm looking at it. Okay. The number one reason that

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01:02:26,400 --> 01:02:29,000
Speaker 1: Nathan Peterman was named the starting quarterback coming out of

1334
01:02:29,000 --> 01:02:31,880
Speaker 1: the preseason was because of the consistency of his game.

1335
01:02:32,280 --> 01:02:36,439
Speaker 1: There wasn't any other real defining reason why you would

1336
01:02:36,480 --> 01:02:39,200
Speaker 1: choose him over Allan because in just about every other

1337
01:02:39,240 --> 01:02:43,880
Speaker 1: area Alan superior, you know, physically, arm strength. I think

1338
01:02:43,920 --> 01:02:46,520
Speaker 1: mentally he's not far off of where Peterman is in

1339
01:02:46,640 --> 01:02:50,200
Speaker 1: terms of processing and running the offense. His decision making

1340
01:02:50,280 --> 01:02:54,360
Speaker 1: might be a little bit behind, and his consistency is behind.

1341
01:02:54,600 --> 01:02:57,120
Speaker 1: But once Nathan Peterman's game falls back to a level

1342
01:02:57,120 --> 01:03:00,320
Speaker 1: where it is woefully inconsistent, which was the case on Sunday,

1343
01:03:00,920 --> 01:03:03,680
Speaker 1: you're pretty much even steven. So what do you want

1344
01:03:03,720 --> 01:03:07,800
Speaker 1: to do? Um? You know, and logic would say go

1345
01:03:07,880 --> 01:03:11,040
Speaker 1: with the more physically gifted player, which is Alan. Um.

1346
01:03:12,120 --> 01:03:15,840
Speaker 1: You know there's gonna be so I almost feel bad

1347
01:03:15,920 --> 01:03:19,439
Speaker 1: if Nathan Peterman remains the starter for this reason. What's

1348
01:03:19,440 --> 01:03:21,479
Speaker 1: the question he's going to be asked the entire week

1349
01:03:22,080 --> 01:03:25,240
Speaker 1: about the five mister redemption week? For you? You know

1350
01:03:25,320 --> 01:03:27,959
Speaker 1: you're gonna overcome the fire, You're gonna be thinking about

1351
01:03:27,960 --> 01:03:30,640
Speaker 1: the five interceptions when you play the Chargers. These are

1352
01:03:30,640 --> 01:03:35,360
Speaker 1: the questions he's gonna get you like that listening and

1353
01:03:35,440 --> 01:03:37,520
Speaker 1: I get it, and you're right, all that, all that stuff,

1354
01:03:37,560 --> 01:03:39,960
Speaker 1: all that stuff is in play for this quarterback, this

1355
01:03:40,080 --> 01:03:45,640
Speaker 1: quarterback choice, if indeed there is one. But I think

1356
01:03:45,640 --> 01:03:49,760
Speaker 1: the thing that doesn't for me was this culture. And

1357
01:03:49,800 --> 01:03:52,000
Speaker 1: Sean McDermott, you know, the guy who's gonna make this

1358
01:03:52,080 --> 01:03:56,120
Speaker 1: call ultimately, has always said, and he said in the beginnings,

1359
01:03:56,480 --> 01:03:59,320
Speaker 1: you gotta earn what you get to get on the field.

1360
01:03:59,320 --> 01:04:01,160
Speaker 1: You gotta earn this, you got to earn that. And

1361
01:04:01,160 --> 01:04:04,120
Speaker 1: and even last year when when it didn't go well

1362
01:04:04,200 --> 01:04:06,800
Speaker 1: for Tyroding, he benched a starting quarterback when they were

1363
01:04:06,800 --> 01:04:11,920
Speaker 1: five and four after playing poorly, about as poorly as

1364
01:04:12,280 --> 01:04:16,240
Speaker 1: and Nay Peterman did yesterday, though not quite you know,

1365
01:04:16,280 --> 01:04:20,400
Speaker 1: he benched him for that because ostensibly because he couldn't

1366
01:04:20,400 --> 01:04:21,680
Speaker 1: look the rest of the guys in the locker room

1367
01:04:21,680 --> 01:04:23,080
Speaker 1: in the ice say listen, they have you have to

1368
01:04:23,080 --> 01:04:24,560
Speaker 1: earn your place on the field. And then to have

1369
01:04:24,640 --> 01:04:26,880
Speaker 1: this guy play like this, I can't say that he's

1370
01:04:27,040 --> 01:04:29,200
Speaker 1: keep He's earned his right to stay in the game. Right,

1371
01:04:29,280 --> 01:04:32,760
Speaker 1: So let's remember was what was the main reason why

1372
01:04:32,800 --> 01:04:35,000
Speaker 1: Tyrod got bench just because he wouldn't pull the trigger

1373
01:04:35,520 --> 01:04:39,600
Speaker 1: and take any kind of risk. He was painfully conservative

1374
01:04:39,800 --> 01:04:42,320
Speaker 1: to the point where they couldn't make plays or string

1375
01:04:42,360 --> 01:04:45,560
Speaker 1: positive plays together on offense. What was Nathan Peterman yesterday?

1376
01:04:45,880 --> 01:04:48,960
Speaker 1: He was painfully conservative in a way that I've never

1377
01:04:49,000 --> 01:04:51,840
Speaker 1: seen from him before. He did a complete one eighty

1378
01:04:51,880 --> 01:04:53,720
Speaker 1: from what we've seen from him in the preseason. And

1379
01:04:53,800 --> 01:04:56,439
Speaker 1: I don't know why he didn't come out, I don't

1380
01:04:56,440 --> 01:04:59,200
Speaker 1: know why it completely vanished, but I've never seen that

1381
01:04:59,280 --> 01:05:01,560
Speaker 1: kid hitch in my life, and he was hitching yesterday

1382
01:05:01,640 --> 01:05:05,680
Speaker 1: like crazy. And maybe on some place he had a

1383
01:05:05,800 --> 01:05:08,280
Speaker 1: right to hitch because his receivers weren't getting separation, but

1384
01:05:08,360 --> 01:05:10,920
Speaker 1: that wasn't every place. And here's the other thing too.

1385
01:05:12,400 --> 01:05:16,720
Speaker 1: This is a guy whose rhythm passing was supposed to

1386
01:05:16,720 --> 01:05:19,120
Speaker 1: help an offensive line that we knew was going to struggle,

1387
01:05:19,600 --> 01:05:22,360
Speaker 1: and by hitching, he only made that line look worse.

1388
01:05:24,000 --> 01:05:25,760
Speaker 1: Now you're at a point where you're saying, well, if

1389
01:05:25,760 --> 01:05:28,919
Speaker 1: Peterman can't pull the trigger, maybe the quarterback I need

1390
01:05:28,960 --> 01:05:31,240
Speaker 1: back there is the one that can run away from trouble,

1391
01:05:31,480 --> 01:05:35,200
Speaker 1: and that's Allen. So I think there's a lot for

1392
01:05:35,280 --> 01:05:38,200
Speaker 1: him to sift through in terms of making this decision.

1393
01:05:38,240 --> 01:05:40,680
Speaker 1: And there are many layers, and he's gonna be peeling

1394
01:05:40,680 --> 01:05:42,400
Speaker 1: back layers at this onion and he's going to be like,

1395
01:05:42,400 --> 01:05:44,160
Speaker 1: oh boy, I might have to go this way, I

1396
01:05:44,240 --> 01:05:45,840
Speaker 1: might have to go that way. But I think we

1397
01:05:45,880 --> 01:05:48,240
Speaker 1: all know what the agenda is long term, and that's

1398
01:05:48,360 --> 01:05:51,240
Speaker 1: Josh Allen. The question is do you start him now

1399
01:05:51,960 --> 01:05:55,920
Speaker 1: against the Chargers defense that's arguably even more talented than

1400
01:05:55,960 --> 01:05:59,160
Speaker 1: the Ravens defense. Yeah, I think one of the things too,

1401
01:05:59,280 --> 01:06:01,760
Speaker 1: is want I don't want to go far down the road.

1402
01:06:01,760 --> 01:06:03,080
Speaker 1: I don't want to go too far back in the

1403
01:06:03,080 --> 01:06:06,320
Speaker 1: past and too far down the road. But this may

1404
01:06:06,360 --> 01:06:08,240
Speaker 1: not be the only week you have to make this

1405
01:06:08,400 --> 01:06:11,600
Speaker 1: choice either. Um, what do you mean? I mean, so

1406
01:06:11,600 --> 01:06:14,680
Speaker 1: you're you're expecting a little vacillation week to week, back

1407
01:06:14,720 --> 01:06:17,800
Speaker 1: and forth between the quarterbacks. Yeah, I mean, I don't know.

1408
01:06:17,880 --> 01:06:21,760
Speaker 1: I mean, because Minnesota isn't looking right. Think about it.

1409
01:06:22,200 --> 01:06:25,960
Speaker 1: That it is not an easy is not an easy

1410
01:06:26,040 --> 01:06:28,680
Speaker 1: thing to go in there and just and and everybody

1411
01:06:28,720 --> 01:06:31,120
Speaker 1: hopes that would happen if they do switch quarterbacks Josh

1412
01:06:31,120 --> 01:06:32,640
Speaker 1: Allen starts next week, that he would go in and

1413
01:06:32,880 --> 01:06:35,240
Speaker 1: put a stranglehold on the position. Right, do you really

1414
01:06:35,240 --> 01:06:36,919
Speaker 1: think that's gonna happen? Well, I mean, and he didn't

1415
01:06:36,960 --> 01:06:40,160
Speaker 1: exactly seize anything yesterday. And what was the equivalent of

1416
01:06:40,200 --> 01:06:43,560
Speaker 1: garbage time? I mean he made The only thing that

1417
01:06:43,640 --> 01:06:45,800
Speaker 1: was very telling was after the game, coach mcderman was

1418
01:06:45,800 --> 01:06:48,880
Speaker 1: asked specifically about Peterman, and he was asked specifically about Alan.

1419
01:06:49,120 --> 01:06:51,560
Speaker 1: When he was asked about Peterman, he answered in general,

1420
01:06:51,600 --> 01:06:54,560
Speaker 1: in a general sense, about the whole offense, and then

1421
01:06:54,560 --> 01:06:56,200
Speaker 1: when he was asked about Alan, he said he made

1422
01:06:56,200 --> 01:06:58,520
Speaker 1: some decisive throws, like the way he got the team

1423
01:06:58,520 --> 01:07:01,400
Speaker 1: in and out of the huddle. So he specifically addressed

1424
01:07:01,400 --> 01:07:04,640
Speaker 1: Alan's play did not do that with Peterman, which has

1425
01:07:04,680 --> 01:07:07,720
Speaker 1: a lot of people, including myself, feeling like he's leaning

1426
01:07:07,760 --> 01:07:11,240
Speaker 1: towards Alan. Now the film could change that, but the

1427
01:07:11,240 --> 01:07:15,360
Speaker 1: fact remains. Guys, this team had fifteen possessions on offense yesterday.

1428
01:07:15,720 --> 01:07:20,720
Speaker 1: Seven of them went for negative yardage. Seven that's I mean,

1429
01:07:20,760 --> 01:07:25,040
Speaker 1: half your possessions went backwards in total net yards. So also,

1430
01:07:25,320 --> 01:07:27,040
Speaker 1: one of the things I wanted to talk about was

1431
01:07:27,720 --> 01:07:32,080
Speaker 1: and that you're right, that's seven. That's huge, So how many. Yeah,

1432
01:07:33,720 --> 01:07:37,200
Speaker 1: let's let's talk about you know, Sean McDermott and some

1433
01:07:37,240 --> 01:07:40,800
Speaker 1: of the choices he's got to make. Also about you know, yeah,

1434
01:07:41,080 --> 01:07:43,120
Speaker 1: think are they going to continue to tinker with that?

1435
01:07:43,840 --> 01:07:47,320
Speaker 1: You think maybe you'll leave it alone for one more

1436
01:07:47,360 --> 01:07:49,720
Speaker 1: week and see if it gets better, Try to give

1437
01:07:49,760 --> 01:07:51,640
Speaker 1: him the benefit of the doubt. Week one was just

1438
01:07:51,680 --> 01:07:53,760
Speaker 1: a bad outing. Doesn't really have a lot of buttons

1439
01:07:53,800 --> 01:07:55,720
Speaker 1: to push, No, well, no, I mean I think the

1440
01:07:55,720 --> 01:07:58,640
Speaker 1: best button to push is Bodine to center, Groy to guard,

1441
01:07:58,680 --> 01:08:02,200
Speaker 1: and one of the two guards is out probably, you know, docs,

1442
01:08:02,320 --> 01:08:05,479
Speaker 1: but I don't know. I don't think there are any

1443
01:08:05,560 --> 01:08:10,360
Speaker 1: great grand solutions that are going to dramatically change, you know,

1444
01:08:10,400 --> 01:08:14,200
Speaker 1: the fortunes of the offensive line. But I think Roy's

1445
01:08:14,240 --> 01:08:17,040
Speaker 1: proven himself capable with the guard position and spot duty

1446
01:08:17,120 --> 01:08:20,080
Speaker 1: here and there. You know, you know, Bodin can play center,

1447
01:08:20,120 --> 01:08:22,240
Speaker 1: has done it for four years as sixty four starts

1448
01:08:22,320 --> 01:08:25,439
Speaker 1: under his belt. That's probably the best card you can

1449
01:08:25,520 --> 01:08:28,559
Speaker 1: play up front right now. Quite frankly, it's the only

1450
01:08:28,600 --> 01:08:31,200
Speaker 1: realistic card you can play and at least make the

1451
01:08:31,320 --> 01:08:33,760
Speaker 1: argument that you have the potential to be better. Do

1452
01:08:33,800 --> 01:08:36,759
Speaker 1: you think are you Bills fans are Are they willing

1453
01:08:36,800 --> 01:08:39,439
Speaker 1: to maybe take a step back for a year, uh,

1454
01:08:39,720 --> 01:08:42,519
Speaker 1: from the from thinking you know, they could catch lightning

1455
01:08:42,520 --> 01:08:44,400
Speaker 1: in a bottle like they did a year ago. Say listen,

1456
01:08:44,400 --> 01:08:46,360
Speaker 1: we're gonna go through a year like Jared Goff did,

1457
01:08:46,400 --> 01:08:49,040
Speaker 1: like Carson Wentz did, with the hopes that Josh Allen

1458
01:08:49,120 --> 01:08:52,120
Speaker 1: turns into Jared Goff. Carson Wentz. Yeah, I mean, that's

1459
01:08:52,560 --> 01:08:55,240
Speaker 1: that's all great to say. And you can say, are

1460
01:08:55,240 --> 01:08:59,200
Speaker 1: the Bills fans ready to accept a transition? They may

1461
01:08:59,200 --> 01:09:01,559
Speaker 1: not have a choice, right and The choice isn't up

1462
01:09:01,560 --> 01:09:04,200
Speaker 1: to them. The season's going to play out the way

1463
01:09:04,240 --> 01:09:06,400
Speaker 1: the season played out based on how the roster sits

1464
01:09:06,479 --> 01:09:11,000
Speaker 1: right now, which from a talent perspective, is lacking in

1465
01:09:11,000 --> 01:09:13,559
Speaker 1: several areas. As we can all see on the field,

1466
01:09:15,080 --> 01:09:18,000
Speaker 1: they can get better, players can improve over the course

1467
01:09:18,000 --> 01:09:21,519
Speaker 1: of the season. I'm not saying they can't, especially the

1468
01:09:21,600 --> 01:09:24,599
Speaker 1: rookies you know, who are traveling on a learning curve

1469
01:09:24,720 --> 01:09:27,560
Speaker 1: right now. I mean, I think we all expect Tremaine Edmonds,

1470
01:09:27,560 --> 01:09:31,200
Speaker 1: Tarren Johnson, Harrison Phillips all to be better players in

1471
01:09:31,240 --> 01:09:34,640
Speaker 1: week fourteen, fifteen, and sixteen than they are now, and

1472
01:09:34,760 --> 01:09:37,800
Speaker 1: in year two they'll be dramatically better if they stay

1473
01:09:37,840 --> 01:09:40,479
Speaker 1: on their current track. But there's a lot of those

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01:09:40,520 --> 01:09:43,639
Speaker 1: guys right now. They had eight players on the field

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01:09:43,720 --> 01:09:47,040
Speaker 1: yesterday that were in their first NFL regular season game. Eight.

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01:09:48,200 --> 01:09:51,040
Speaker 1: That doesn't sound like a big number, but it's a

1477
01:09:51,040 --> 01:09:53,320
Speaker 1: lot if you go around the league, that's a lot.

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01:09:53,520 --> 01:09:55,839
Speaker 1: That's a lot for a team. Chris Brown, Bills Insider

1479
01:09:55,840 --> 01:09:57,760
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills dot Com. With us, we spend all the

1480
01:09:57,760 --> 01:09:59,800
Speaker 1: time talking about quarterbacks most of the time since you've

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01:09:59,800 --> 01:10:02,960
Speaker 1: been what about the defense, Chris, I mean you know,

1482
01:10:03,240 --> 01:10:06,160
Speaker 1: give up co ten play scoring drives in the first quarter,

1483
01:10:06,240 --> 01:10:10,439
Speaker 1: ten play touchdown drives. The secondary, which was supposed to

1484
01:10:10,439 --> 01:10:12,639
Speaker 1: be the strength of the defense at some major holes

1485
01:10:12,680 --> 01:10:16,080
Speaker 1: back there. Yes, you know, the Johnson injury was a factor. Yes,

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01:10:16,160 --> 01:10:19,120
Speaker 1: Vante Davis not being ready is a factor, maybe a

1487
01:10:19,160 --> 01:10:22,040
Speaker 1: continuing factor, but I think we're all kind of leaning

1488
01:10:22,040 --> 01:10:24,760
Speaker 1: on the defense to help him out in situations like that.

1489
01:10:25,240 --> 01:10:27,400
Speaker 1: Part of the reason for Buffalo's offensive struggle is the

1490
01:10:27,479 --> 01:10:30,240
Speaker 1: fact that they were playing ketchup basically from midway through

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01:10:30,240 --> 01:10:32,360
Speaker 1: the second quarter for the rest of the way. It's

1492
01:10:32,360 --> 01:10:35,200
Speaker 1: like coach said, game got away from him early. Yeah,

1493
01:10:35,200 --> 01:10:39,280
Speaker 1: and it did you know in the defense is just

1494
01:10:39,320 --> 01:10:41,519
Speaker 1: as much on the blame list as the offense. Yeah,

1495
01:10:41,760 --> 01:10:44,679
Speaker 1: because they couldn't get the stops that they needed. And

1496
01:10:45,439 --> 01:10:49,880
Speaker 1: you know, Philip Gaines, you know, works his tail off,

1497
01:10:49,920 --> 01:10:53,880
Speaker 1: He's a try hard guy. There's just there's something missing

1498
01:10:53,920 --> 01:10:58,879
Speaker 1: there where once he's beat, there really isn't the ketchup

1499
01:10:58,960 --> 01:11:02,559
Speaker 1: speed to get back into the play. So if he's beat,

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01:11:02,600 --> 01:11:05,160
Speaker 1: the play is over unless he's got safety help over

1501
01:11:05,200 --> 01:11:10,120
Speaker 1: the top. I mean, his technique after he saw that

1502
01:11:10,160 --> 01:11:13,000
Speaker 1: ball coming back across the field from Flacco. I mean,

1503
01:11:13,040 --> 01:11:15,040
Speaker 1: he looked like he was running around a Merrygo round

1504
01:11:15,479 --> 01:11:17,400
Speaker 1: to get to his friend on the other side of

1505
01:11:17,439 --> 01:11:21,479
Speaker 1: the thing. I mean, that's just that's poor technique. And

1506
01:11:21,520 --> 01:11:23,160
Speaker 1: I've never been a cornerback in my life and I

1507
01:11:23,160 --> 01:11:27,040
Speaker 1: could see that. You know, there were mistakes out there

1508
01:11:27,080 --> 01:11:30,559
Speaker 1: made by the lot. I mean people were making errors

1509
01:11:30,680 --> 01:11:36,360
Speaker 1: pre snap issues, communication breakdowns, and zone coverages in the

1510
01:11:36,360 --> 01:11:41,120
Speaker 1: red zone defending it there. You know, there were a

1511
01:11:41,120 --> 01:11:44,439
Speaker 1: myriad of issues. But cornerback is a major concern right

1512
01:11:44,479 --> 01:11:48,960
Speaker 1: now because if Terren Johnson's shoulder injury is more than

1513
01:11:49,000 --> 01:11:52,200
Speaker 1: a day to day situation, they got to coach up

1514
01:11:52,280 --> 01:11:55,479
Speaker 1: Ryan Lewis real fast to play nickel because it's evident

1515
01:11:55,520 --> 01:11:58,719
Speaker 1: to me they do not want Philip gains in the slot.

1516
01:11:59,080 --> 01:12:01,240
Speaker 1: Evidence of that came in the form of Raphael Bush.

1517
01:12:01,280 --> 01:12:03,080
Speaker 1: If you're willing to put your third safety on the

1518
01:12:03,080 --> 01:12:06,920
Speaker 1: field to play nickel corner instead of taking your fourth corner,

1519
01:12:06,920 --> 01:12:09,160
Speaker 1: put him on the boundary and put Philip Gaines in

1520
01:12:09,160 --> 01:12:10,760
Speaker 1: the slot, Well that's a signal to me that you

1521
01:12:10,760 --> 01:12:13,120
Speaker 1: don't feel you have another nickel corner right Well they

1522
01:12:13,120 --> 01:12:17,360
Speaker 1: were that's ready. Yeah, that's the thing that's Tarn Johnson

1523
01:12:17,439 --> 01:12:18,880
Speaker 1: was the guy that kind of got slotted in there.

1524
01:12:18,880 --> 01:12:21,960
Speaker 1: In fact, he was slotted the nickel corner in the

1525
01:12:22,000 --> 01:12:26,360
Speaker 1: slot before they even decided about Philip Gaines or Vonte Davis.

1526
01:12:26,400 --> 01:12:29,280
Speaker 1: So I think I think that's a rung up the

1527
01:12:29,320 --> 01:12:32,520
Speaker 1: ladder that you know that further than the left cornerback

1528
01:12:33,080 --> 01:12:35,920
Speaker 1: wasn't before the game started, and it's an important position.

1529
01:12:35,960 --> 01:12:38,320
Speaker 1: I mean, that guy's on the field sixty five seventy

1530
01:12:38,320 --> 01:12:40,240
Speaker 1: percent of the time. I mean all the three start

1531
01:12:40,320 --> 01:12:43,920
Speaker 1: face and and the other thing too is Vonte Davis.

1532
01:12:44,040 --> 01:12:47,080
Speaker 1: I think a lot of us anticipated that he wasn't

1533
01:12:47,120 --> 01:12:49,519
Speaker 1: going to start based on how practice was looking through

1534
01:12:49,560 --> 01:12:52,160
Speaker 1: the course of the week, and that Philip Gaines would

1535
01:12:52,200 --> 01:12:53,680
Speaker 1: be the starter. But I don't know if any of

1536
01:12:53,760 --> 01:12:56,880
Speaker 1: us anticipated him being completely inactive and off the board,

1537
01:12:57,479 --> 01:12:59,640
Speaker 1: which is a signal to me that he's They just

1538
01:12:59,680 --> 01:13:02,680
Speaker 1: don't see him as regular season game ready in his

1539
01:13:02,760 --> 01:13:06,120
Speaker 1: return from groin surgery. Now, guys, that groin surgery was

1540
01:13:06,240 --> 01:13:09,880
Speaker 1: last November. I mean we're coming up on ten months

1541
01:13:09,880 --> 01:13:14,240
Speaker 1: here and he's still not game ready. It's a it's

1542
01:13:14,280 --> 01:13:16,320
Speaker 1: got to be a concern here. I mean, I'm not

1543
01:13:16,360 --> 01:13:18,639
Speaker 1: a doctor and I'm not an athletic trainer. Maybe they

1544
01:13:18,640 --> 01:13:23,040
Speaker 1: are confident that in a few weeks he'll be good

1545
01:13:23,040 --> 01:13:25,080
Speaker 1: to go. It might not be the same groin either,

1546
01:13:25,080 --> 01:13:27,240
Speaker 1: it might be something other than that, but that's given him.

1547
01:13:27,240 --> 01:13:32,599
Speaker 1: But his fluidity, his fluidity as well there right now,

1548
01:13:32,680 --> 01:13:34,400
Speaker 1: coming off of an injury of that type where you

1549
01:13:34,439 --> 01:13:37,920
Speaker 1: have surgery stuff. It's yeah, it may never be like

1550
01:13:37,960 --> 01:13:41,720
Speaker 1: that again, he man right exactly. He may not be

1551
01:13:41,760 --> 01:13:44,880
Speaker 1: able to, but then again he may be at the

1552
01:13:44,960 --> 01:13:47,280
Speaker 1: end of a long road. Uh, and he may be

1553
01:13:47,360 --> 01:13:50,679
Speaker 1: getting better. They certainly, so they haven't released him, right,

1554
01:13:50,720 --> 01:13:53,360
Speaker 1: so that bear is watching and and I'll tell you

1555
01:13:53,439 --> 01:13:56,280
Speaker 1: if he's still on this roster pass Tuesday. His salary

1556
01:13:56,320 --> 01:13:58,519
Speaker 1: is guaranteed for the year anyway, right, So if you

1557
01:13:58,600 --> 01:14:01,160
Speaker 1: feel he's got a chance to get back to where

1558
01:14:01,200 --> 01:14:04,160
Speaker 1: he was, you're on the hook for five million dollars.

1559
01:14:04,160 --> 01:14:05,760
Speaker 1: You may as well sit and wait if you can,

1560
01:14:06,080 --> 01:14:09,599
Speaker 1: if you can afford to. They already got fifty million

1561
01:14:09,600 --> 01:14:12,280
Speaker 1: and dead money. What's another what's another file? Right? Yeah,

1562
01:14:12,320 --> 01:14:14,280
Speaker 1: But I mean, I just think it's a it's a

1563
01:14:14,360 --> 01:14:17,200
Speaker 1: situation where they may have to address it if they don't,

1564
01:14:17,240 --> 01:14:20,559
Speaker 1: if they're worried about Tarren Johnson's availability for Sunday Cornerbacks

1565
01:14:20,560 --> 01:14:23,080
Speaker 1: is gonna have to get addressed this week. Chris the

1566
01:14:23,120 --> 01:14:26,719
Speaker 1: Bill said that horrible three game stretched last November, losing badly,

1567
01:14:26,760 --> 01:14:30,960
Speaker 1: getting blown out New England's listen to that Chargers and

1568
01:14:31,040 --> 01:14:33,320
Speaker 1: they pulled out of it. Do you think there's a

1569
01:14:33,360 --> 01:14:36,040
Speaker 1: parallel here, like, maybe the same things, the same mindset

1570
01:14:36,080 --> 01:14:38,040
Speaker 1: that allowed them to pull out of it and go

1571
01:14:38,080 --> 01:14:40,679
Speaker 1: down and beat Kansas City last November is in play

1572
01:14:40,720 --> 01:14:42,960
Speaker 1: here with many of the same cast of characters. Well,

1573
01:14:43,240 --> 01:14:45,720
Speaker 1: I was encouraged by some of the veteran comments, you know,

1574
01:14:45,760 --> 01:14:48,160
Speaker 1: coming out in the locker room last night from Kyle Williams.

1575
01:14:48,760 --> 01:14:50,960
Speaker 1: You know, Lashawan McCoy had a tweet will bounce back

1576
01:14:51,000 --> 01:14:54,720
Speaker 1: from this. So the veteran leaders in the locker room

1577
01:14:54,760 --> 01:14:58,479
Speaker 1: are saying the right things. The big question here is

1578
01:14:59,320 --> 01:15:01,759
Speaker 1: number one, do you have the horses to get it done?

1579
01:15:02,240 --> 01:15:05,160
Speaker 1: Because in the end, guys, we all know this, it's

1580
01:15:05,160 --> 01:15:07,880
Speaker 1: a matchup league, and if you don't have guys that

1581
01:15:07,920 --> 01:15:11,520
Speaker 1: can win matchups, those people are going to get isolated

1582
01:15:11,560 --> 01:15:14,880
Speaker 1: and exploited. And you know, I don't want to knock

1583
01:15:14,960 --> 01:15:18,720
Speaker 1: Raphael Bush. I thought he was putting a very difficult position. Yesterday,

1584
01:15:18,760 --> 01:15:20,759
Speaker 1: as soon as he stepped on the field, he was targeted.

1585
01:15:21,040 --> 01:15:24,479
Speaker 1: Willie Sneed caught four passes on two drives, including a touchdown,

1586
01:15:24,760 --> 01:15:28,439
Speaker 1: because they saw what the mismatch was, and it was

1587
01:15:28,520 --> 01:15:31,479
Speaker 1: what it was, a mismatch. It really wasn't fair to Bush,

1588
01:15:31,520 --> 01:15:34,759
Speaker 1: but he had to spell and be the best answer

1589
01:15:34,760 --> 01:15:37,240
Speaker 1: for what was a bad situation. That's not on Raphael

1590
01:15:37,320 --> 01:15:39,599
Speaker 1: Bush as a player. He's just being asked to play

1591
01:15:39,640 --> 01:15:41,840
Speaker 1: a role that's very difficult for him to play based

1592
01:15:41,840 --> 01:15:44,920
Speaker 1: on his skill set. But the fact remained, and that

1593
01:15:45,200 --> 01:15:46,960
Speaker 1: might not be the best example for the point I'm

1594
01:15:46,960 --> 01:15:51,040
Speaker 1: trying to make here, But it's talent along with all

1595
01:15:51,080 --> 01:15:55,000
Speaker 1: the things that Sean McDermott preaches here, you know, putting

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01:15:55,000 --> 01:15:57,160
Speaker 1: the work in every single day and working hard and

1597
01:15:57,280 --> 01:15:59,400
Speaker 1: looking to improve and be a better version of yourself

1598
01:15:59,479 --> 01:16:01,840
Speaker 1: day after day after day so you can reach a

1599
01:16:01,920 --> 01:16:04,479
Speaker 1: level where you can really help this team win football games.

1600
01:16:04,800 --> 01:16:07,479
Speaker 1: That that takes you to a certain extent, and you

1601
01:16:07,520 --> 01:16:11,439
Speaker 1: will max out if you stay on that course. I

1602
01:16:11,520 --> 01:16:13,719
Speaker 1: just don't know if there's enough of that elite talent

1603
01:16:14,080 --> 01:16:17,679
Speaker 1: to make those game changing plays that we often see

1604
01:16:17,760 --> 01:16:20,880
Speaker 1: turn games. I mean, look at Tyreek Hill yesterday. Three

1605
01:16:20,920 --> 01:16:25,800
Speaker 1: plays all fifty plus YRD touchdowns. They won the game

1606
01:16:25,840 --> 01:16:29,760
Speaker 1: by ten. That's I mean, that's eighteen points of one

1607
01:16:29,760 --> 01:16:32,840
Speaker 1: of them the football game. Yeah, that's And I think

1608
01:16:32,880 --> 01:16:34,280
Speaker 1: one of the things you got to remember too is,

1609
01:16:34,400 --> 01:16:37,280
Speaker 1: like you said, and we alluded to, there's a lot

1610
01:16:37,360 --> 01:16:39,559
Speaker 1: of young guys on this team that are playing significant roles.

1611
01:16:39,800 --> 01:16:41,720
Speaker 1: They're not going to be the same player in not

1612
01:16:41,840 --> 01:16:44,320
Speaker 1: even in three weeks that they are today. They're gonna

1613
01:16:44,360 --> 01:16:46,920
Speaker 1: be by midspee improvement. They're gonna be a lot of

1614
01:16:46,920 --> 01:16:49,040
Speaker 1: improvement for those guys that that will help some but

1615
01:16:49,240 --> 01:16:50,880
Speaker 1: by in the same by the same token in the

1616
01:16:50,920 --> 01:16:53,840
Speaker 1: meantime getting to that point, it's a team that needs

1617
01:16:53,840 --> 01:16:56,080
Speaker 1: to stay healthy and they need to get the best

1618
01:16:56,120 --> 01:16:57,880
Speaker 1: out of the guys that they could depend depend on

1619
01:16:58,000 --> 01:17:00,519
Speaker 1: right now. And in all fairness, you know, I know

1620
01:17:00,640 --> 01:17:03,680
Speaker 1: Brandon Bean's coming under heavy criticism for offensive line and

1621
01:17:03,720 --> 01:17:05,679
Speaker 1: how come you didn't take care of that more? Number

1622
01:17:05,720 --> 01:17:09,240
Speaker 1: one got drummer one, Well, yeah, number one, the Eric

1623
01:17:09,280 --> 01:17:13,640
Speaker 1: Wood injury was completely unanticipated and said, well, you had

1624
01:17:13,640 --> 01:17:16,280
Speaker 1: a whole offseason to fix it. Well, you're eating dead

1625
01:17:16,320 --> 01:17:18,559
Speaker 1: money because you just signed him to an extension. That's

1626
01:17:18,640 --> 01:17:23,320
Speaker 1: number one. Number two, the draft was awful for offensive

1627
01:17:23,360 --> 01:17:27,120
Speaker 1: line talent this year. It wasn't good at all. And no,

1628
01:17:27,200 --> 01:17:29,080
Speaker 1: by the way, the Bills had some other areas to

1629
01:17:29,120 --> 01:17:33,080
Speaker 1: address in the draft, you know, and free agencies said, well,

1630
01:17:33,080 --> 01:17:34,560
Speaker 1: why don't you just sign the best free agent? The

1631
01:17:34,600 --> 01:17:36,479
Speaker 1: Bills are in a cap situation where they couldn't do that,

1632
01:17:36,960 --> 01:17:39,800
Speaker 1: and even so they signed Russell Bodin to respectable money,

1633
01:17:40,000 --> 01:17:43,719
Speaker 1: not giant money, but respectable money. So I just think

1634
01:17:44,840 --> 01:17:47,360
Speaker 1: Brandon Bean is caught in a situation where he's trying

1635
01:17:47,360 --> 01:17:50,040
Speaker 1: to address certain aspects of the team that need assistants,

1636
01:17:50,160 --> 01:17:54,800
Speaker 1: need upgrades, but you simply cannot run the gamut and

1637
01:17:54,880 --> 01:17:57,679
Speaker 1: cover it all in one offseason. And that's what they're

1638
01:17:57,720 --> 01:18:00,559
Speaker 1: up against now, and the losses on the offensive line

1639
01:18:00,560 --> 01:18:03,519
Speaker 1: only exacerbated that as an issue. That's the unfortunate set

1640
01:18:03,560 --> 01:18:07,000
Speaker 1: of circumstances that they're faced with now. Chris on the website,

1641
01:18:07,040 --> 01:18:10,800
Speaker 1: you'll have complete coverage, I'm sure of four o'clock. Sean mcdermots, Yeah,

1642
01:18:10,800 --> 01:18:13,040
Speaker 1: we'll have our after that too, right, Yeah, we'll have

1643
01:18:13,040 --> 01:18:15,960
Speaker 1: our quick hits turn around on coach mcdermot's comments, just

1644
01:18:16,040 --> 01:18:18,200
Speaker 1: kind of the top three things that he addresses today.

1645
01:18:18,520 --> 01:18:21,280
Speaker 1: See if you address this quarterback. Yeah, Dabo and Frasier

1646
01:18:21,280 --> 01:18:24,120
Speaker 1: are also going to be talking this afternoon, so we'll

1647
01:18:24,160 --> 01:18:26,280
Speaker 1: get some answers from them, and probably some of their

1648
01:18:26,280 --> 01:18:28,280
Speaker 1: comments will show up on Bills today in the morning,

1649
01:18:28,280 --> 01:18:32,360
Speaker 1: and then Tuesday we'll have a statistical column. It's a

1650
01:18:32,400 --> 01:18:36,360
Speaker 1: column that kind of minds some numbers or makes projections

1651
01:18:36,439 --> 01:18:38,120
Speaker 1: that you know, you may want to look at. And

1652
01:18:38,120 --> 01:18:40,760
Speaker 1: don't worry, my projections or numbers will not be in

1653
01:18:40,800 --> 01:18:43,559
Speaker 1: any way related to Sunday's game because none of those

1654
01:18:43,640 --> 01:18:46,360
Speaker 1: numbers were really all that pretty. So we'll have a

1655
01:18:46,400 --> 01:18:50,000
Speaker 1: completely different look at a player on the roster and

1656
01:18:50,080 --> 01:18:53,799
Speaker 1: project kind of how twenty eighteen might play out for him. Okay,

1657
01:18:54,160 --> 01:18:55,960
Speaker 1: there's a nice tease. You hear that, You hear how

1658
01:18:56,000 --> 01:18:59,679
Speaker 1: we tease that for tomorrow? He's pro Chris, Thanks, thanks

1659
01:18:59,680 --> 01:19:02,479
Speaker 1: for this, Thanks Brownie, Chris, Brown Bills Inside or Buffalo

1660
01:19:02,560 --> 01:19:04,360
Speaker 1: Bills dot Com. Steve and I back with more one

1661
01:19:04,400 --> 01:19:07,000
Speaker 1: Bills Live from One Bill's Drive on Buffalo Bills Radio,

1662
01:19:24,360 --> 01:19:28,479
Speaker 1: working back our way, hustled back in, pushing our way. Steve,

1663
01:19:28,520 --> 01:19:30,200
Speaker 1: I'm proud of you the way I'm proud of me too,

1664
01:19:30,280 --> 01:19:33,080
Speaker 1: the way we're you know, I'm proud about it. Seven

1665
01:19:33,200 --> 01:19:35,519
Speaker 1: thirty this morning, I'm done watching the video of the game,

1666
01:19:35,560 --> 01:19:37,240
Speaker 1: and I thought, I don't want to talk about this

1667
01:19:37,280 --> 01:19:39,280
Speaker 1: game anymore, and I have to for three hours, but

1668
01:19:39,320 --> 01:19:43,599
Speaker 1: we're pushing through. I like it. Yeah, yeah, thinking about

1669
01:19:43,680 --> 01:19:47,680
Speaker 1: there's always another one coming up, man. Yeah, there's a

1670
01:19:47,680 --> 01:19:52,080
Speaker 1: lot of reasons to be excited about this one, even

1671
01:19:52,160 --> 01:19:55,320
Speaker 1: despite what happened last week. I'm oh about the Chargers meet.

1672
01:19:55,320 --> 01:19:57,679
Speaker 1: I want I want to see this team play at home. Yeah,

1673
01:19:57,920 --> 01:19:59,519
Speaker 1: I'm gonna see the defense play at home. I want

1674
01:19:59,520 --> 01:20:01,240
Speaker 1: to see John Shallon play and we I don't know

1675
01:20:01,240 --> 01:20:03,200
Speaker 1: if we will or not, and I think we will.

1676
01:20:03,280 --> 01:20:06,280
Speaker 1: I don't know. We don't have any special knowledge about this,

1677
01:20:06,320 --> 01:20:10,920
Speaker 1: but if it excites me to think about he might

1678
01:20:10,960 --> 01:20:15,000
Speaker 1: start this game against that team and Peterman kind of

1679
01:20:15,320 --> 01:20:19,000
Speaker 1: Peterman starting that game would be a great star, unbelievable story,

1680
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Speaker 1: particularly if he plays like we have seen him play,

1681
01:20:23,920 --> 01:20:25,439
Speaker 1: like we thought he could play like we thought he

1682
01:20:25,439 --> 01:20:27,599
Speaker 1: could play. From the tweet sheet from Sipping the kool Aid,

1683
01:20:27,600 --> 01:20:30,559
Speaker 1: A question about yesterday's game, and it's for you, Steve said, Steve,

1684
01:20:30,920 --> 01:20:34,680
Speaker 1: what's the deal with Ravens linebacker met Judon ending up

1685
01:20:34,680 --> 01:20:37,040
Speaker 1: on top of Josh Allen when he ran out of bounce.

1686
01:20:37,160 --> 01:20:40,160
Speaker 1: Jud June wasn't even in the game. Looked like a

1687
01:20:40,200 --> 01:20:43,679
Speaker 1: pretty rough slam from what I saw. Alan threw him there. Yeah,

1688
01:20:43,760 --> 01:20:46,000
Speaker 1: Alan dragged him down with him right. He came running

1689
01:20:46,000 --> 01:20:48,280
Speaker 1: out of the out off the field and he got

1690
01:20:48,520 --> 01:20:52,120
Speaker 1: Judon didn't get out of his way, and he comes

1691
01:20:52,160 --> 01:20:55,599
Speaker 1: off and he runs off to his right, runs off

1692
01:20:55,640 --> 01:20:58,120
Speaker 1: and runs down and he and Judon kind of stones

1693
01:20:58,200 --> 01:21:00,360
Speaker 1: him up, and you know, he kind of whips Judon

1694
01:21:00,439 --> 01:21:04,040
Speaker 1: to the ground and he gets up, Josh Allen getting

1695
01:21:04,120 --> 01:21:05,519
Speaker 1: up a smile, and they kind of throw him off,

1696
01:21:05,520 --> 01:21:07,680
Speaker 1: and you know, the rest of the bills are there,

1697
01:21:07,800 --> 01:21:12,200
Speaker 1: and nothing ever happens because of it. But Josh Allen

1698
01:21:12,760 --> 01:21:16,680
Speaker 1: comes in and Judo kind of puts his shoulder into

1699
01:21:16,760 --> 01:21:18,519
Speaker 1: him and Alan throws him to the ground for it.

1700
01:21:19,160 --> 01:21:22,439
Speaker 1: Nothing ever happens of it, but a little frustration there

1701
01:21:22,439 --> 01:21:25,320
Speaker 1: on Allan's partner, not liking the extra shoulder Judon gave him.

1702
01:21:25,880 --> 01:21:28,639
Speaker 1: Juno didn't do anything that bad. But by the same time,

1703
01:21:28,680 --> 01:21:31,240
Speaker 1: it's just stuff that happens on the sidelines. Not much there, no,

1704
01:21:31,360 --> 01:21:33,600
Speaker 1: but you're right. Judon wasn't in the game, but he

1705
01:21:33,680 --> 01:21:35,960
Speaker 1: kind of gave Allen a little something extra when he

1706
01:21:36,000 --> 01:21:38,880
Speaker 1: came running off off the sidelines and Alan threw him

1707
01:21:38,880 --> 01:21:40,599
Speaker 1: to ground to the ground for his troubles and they

1708
01:21:40,600 --> 01:21:42,519
Speaker 1: got up and Alan was laughing about I don't know

1709
01:21:42,560 --> 01:21:44,760
Speaker 1: what Judon was doing, but working a couple of calls here,

1710
01:21:44,760 --> 01:21:48,200
Speaker 1: Emmanuel in Alaska. Welcome Emanuel wear in Alaska. Are you

1711
01:21:48,240 --> 01:21:51,439
Speaker 1: by the way right now? I'm in Delta Junction is

1712
01:21:51,520 --> 01:21:57,840
Speaker 1: like eighty miles from Fairbanks, south of Fairbanks, south of Fairbanks. Wow, yeah,

1713
01:21:57,880 --> 01:22:00,960
Speaker 1: I was. I'm the gods from Away. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1714
01:22:00,960 --> 01:22:03,160
Speaker 1: you're Hawaii. You guy, what what are you going? Work

1715
01:22:03,200 --> 01:22:05,280
Speaker 1: in the states backwards? Now? What are you doing? Well?

1716
01:22:05,920 --> 01:22:09,840
Speaker 1: I worked for a company called Raytheon. Yeah, we kind

1717
01:22:09,840 --> 01:22:12,280
Speaker 1: of do missiles and stuff. Is it the two week

1718
01:22:12,400 --> 01:22:15,519
Speaker 1: thing man? Em Manually you spend two weeks in Alaska

1719
01:22:15,560 --> 01:22:17,160
Speaker 1: then two weeks in Hawaii kind of thing where they

1720
01:22:17,160 --> 01:22:19,920
Speaker 1: give you time off like that. No, well, I live

1721
01:22:19,960 --> 01:22:22,720
Speaker 1: in Hawaii and work in Hawaii. We come out here

1722
01:22:23,200 --> 01:22:27,200
Speaker 1: maybe whenever there's at can't say too much, but there's

1723
01:22:27,200 --> 01:22:29,960
Speaker 1: an exercise and we'll be out here for two months.

1724
01:22:30,000 --> 01:22:32,680
Speaker 1: So how I won't be back in Hawaii until like October.

1725
01:22:32,880 --> 01:22:35,599
Speaker 1: Oh boy, we we missed to not ask you about

1726
01:22:35,640 --> 01:22:39,640
Speaker 1: the weather. How are things near Fairbanks, Alaska weatherwise? Actually,

1727
01:22:39,880 --> 01:22:41,760
Speaker 1: when I landed it with fifty degrees and you know,

1728
01:22:41,800 --> 01:22:45,360
Speaker 1: it was freezing being from Hawaii. Yeah, then it got

1729
01:22:45,400 --> 01:22:48,479
Speaker 1: down to like thirty two degrees and I'm like, man,

1730
01:22:48,560 --> 01:22:51,680
Speaker 1: it's only September. Yeah, and now today it's up to

1731
01:22:51,800 --> 01:22:53,880
Speaker 1: like fifty is show It kind of feels good. I

1732
01:22:53,880 --> 01:22:56,040
Speaker 1: guess I acclimate it a little bit. No snow right,

1733
01:22:56,240 --> 01:22:59,960
Speaker 1: too early for snow as of yet on the mountains there.

1734
01:23:00,000 --> 01:23:02,559
Speaker 1: You know, it's a real statement. Yeah. Well all right, man,

1735
01:23:02,600 --> 01:23:06,719
Speaker 1: you'll know I'm talking. So you saw the game yesterday.

1736
01:23:06,800 --> 01:23:08,519
Speaker 1: What do you think? What's what did you what's your

1737
01:23:08,560 --> 01:23:12,519
Speaker 1: call about? I didn't get the game. I um got

1738
01:23:12,600 --> 01:23:14,640
Speaker 1: game passed, But after I've seen the score, I was like,

1739
01:23:14,720 --> 01:23:18,240
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna watch this. So you ask for a

1740
01:23:18,320 --> 01:23:21,519
Speaker 1: refund from game pass? I know. I mean, I love

1741
01:23:21,560 --> 01:23:24,120
Speaker 1: the Bills, so I'm a fan. I just you gotta

1742
01:23:24,160 --> 01:23:27,360
Speaker 1: be a realist and understand what's going on. You know, Yeah,

1743
01:23:28,120 --> 01:23:31,120
Speaker 1: what do you think? So what I think is I

1744
01:23:31,240 --> 01:23:34,880
Speaker 1: think this is a result of our talent that being

1745
01:23:34,960 --> 01:23:38,560
Speaker 1: traded and released. I understand Brandon when he was on

1746
01:23:38,760 --> 01:23:41,360
Speaker 1: earlier in the year, sometime in the spring, he said,

1747
01:23:41,400 --> 01:23:43,439
Speaker 1: you know, they knew they was trying to get a quarterback,

1748
01:23:43,479 --> 01:23:45,760
Speaker 1: and they had to do moves to position. And though

1749
01:23:45,800 --> 01:23:48,800
Speaker 1: some people say it wasn't tanking, I get it. The

1750
01:23:48,880 --> 01:23:51,200
Speaker 1: Bills made the playoffs, but I think they had momentum.

1751
01:23:51,280 --> 01:23:54,080
Speaker 1: That's why they made the playoffs. I think now we

1752
01:23:54,200 --> 01:23:57,960
Speaker 1: are reaping the results of letting those many players go. Um,

1753
01:23:58,280 --> 01:24:00,360
Speaker 1: I do have a question for you guys, sal can

1754
01:24:00,400 --> 01:24:02,000
Speaker 1: answer and please keep me on the line Stark and

1755
01:24:02,160 --> 01:24:05,920
Speaker 1: hear it. Um dead money. I understand that that's money

1756
01:24:06,000 --> 01:24:09,479
Speaker 1: that the Bills don't have to use. Do they old

1757
01:24:09,600 --> 01:24:13,920
Speaker 1: like players like Marcus Darius money or do that's just

1758
01:24:14,120 --> 01:24:16,840
Speaker 1: money that they can't use towards player salary. That's money

1759
01:24:16,880 --> 01:24:20,799
Speaker 1: that's already been paid to those players through their contracts,

1760
01:24:20,840 --> 01:24:24,880
Speaker 1: through bonuses, through incentives, through anything else that you want

1761
01:24:24,880 --> 01:24:27,400
Speaker 1: to name. That's money that's already been paid to players,

1762
01:24:27,960 --> 01:24:32,200
Speaker 1: but was structured in the contract to go out throughout

1763
01:24:32,400 --> 01:24:35,280
Speaker 1: the throughout the length of the contract, and when they

1764
01:24:35,840 --> 01:24:38,400
Speaker 1: release those players or trade those players, all that money

1765
01:24:38,439 --> 01:24:41,679
Speaker 1: that they gave them up front, goes into the cap

1766
01:24:41,800 --> 01:24:44,880
Speaker 1: that year, that next year. So that's what has caused

1767
01:24:44,880 --> 01:24:46,760
Speaker 1: the Bills to have all that money, that dead money

1768
01:24:46,840 --> 01:24:50,080
Speaker 1: under the cap. And what it means is and it's

1769
01:24:50,240 --> 01:24:54,640
Speaker 1: it's a little bit of a of a misnomer. The

1770
01:24:54,720 --> 01:24:57,120
Speaker 1: Bills still get paid that money. They're not allowed to

1771
01:24:57,240 --> 01:25:00,040
Speaker 1: pay it to any of the players. There's that that

1772
01:25:00,200 --> 01:25:02,240
Speaker 1: money goes to pay the money that they already paid

1773
01:25:02,280 --> 01:25:05,880
Speaker 1: those players. So they still get the revenues from whatever

1774
01:25:05,960 --> 01:25:08,479
Speaker 1: they get, you know, the couple hundred million bucks a

1775
01:25:08,600 --> 01:25:12,559
Speaker 1: year they get from the league, but they're not allowed

1776
01:25:12,560 --> 01:25:14,360
Speaker 1: to use it in their payroll because they paid it

1777
01:25:14,479 --> 01:25:18,040
Speaker 1: forward earlier. Thanks Emmanuel, thanks for checking in, staying warm

1778
01:25:18,120 --> 01:25:19,720
Speaker 1: up there. Steve and I back with more in a moment,

1779
01:25:19,840 --> 01:25:22,360
Speaker 1: One Bills Live from One Bill's Drive on Buffalo Bill's

1780
01:25:22,439 --> 01:25:36,559
Speaker 1: Radio o b L One Bills Live, John Murphy, Steve

1781
01:25:36,600 --> 01:25:38,880
Speaker 1: Tasker here until three week got Kyle Brandt from NFL

1782
01:25:38,960 --> 01:25:41,559
Speaker 1: Network coming up at two o'clock to talk about the Bills,

1783
01:25:41,600 --> 01:25:43,679
Speaker 1: but about the other thing. It was an interesting opening

1784
01:25:43,720 --> 01:25:45,840
Speaker 1: day in the NFL yesterday me time, I want to

1785
01:25:45,880 --> 01:25:47,960
Speaker 1: hear from you quarterbacks. What would you do? Who would

1786
01:25:47,960 --> 01:25:50,560
Speaker 1: you start against the Chargers on Sunday. Give us a

1787
01:25:50,600 --> 01:25:52,439
Speaker 1: call or tweet it in the phone line to call

1788
01:25:52,520 --> 01:25:55,880
Speaker 1: eight three fifty toll free one eight eight eight five

1789
01:25:56,040 --> 01:25:58,719
Speaker 1: fifty two five fifty. Bill on the line from Syracuse

1790
01:25:58,800 --> 01:26:01,160
Speaker 1: High Bill, go ahead, welcome to show. Hey, how are

1791
01:26:01,200 --> 01:26:06,200
Speaker 1: you okay? So here's my thought on this. I don't

1792
01:26:06,240 --> 01:26:10,280
Speaker 1: care if it's Alan. He's big. We watched him in

1793
01:26:10,360 --> 01:26:13,760
Speaker 1: training camp. He's big, he's he's got a gun for

1794
01:26:13,920 --> 01:26:16,600
Speaker 1: an arm. But the problem is we saw it in

1795
01:26:16,680 --> 01:26:19,400
Speaker 1: the preseason game where he took that hard hit and

1796
01:26:19,600 --> 01:26:22,960
Speaker 1: got his head bounced off the turf. If he doesn't

1797
01:26:23,000 --> 01:26:26,479
Speaker 1: have a line to protect him, we're gonna have him

1798
01:26:26,520 --> 01:26:28,240
Speaker 1: for what two or three games, and then we're gonna

1799
01:26:28,240 --> 01:26:30,080
Speaker 1: be stuck with Peterman? All right? Yeah, but Bill, what

1800
01:26:30,160 --> 01:26:33,880
Speaker 1: about this? What if you go out and you put

1801
01:26:33,920 --> 01:26:36,560
Speaker 1: Peterman in there and he gets hurt and Alan's in

1802
01:26:36,640 --> 01:26:38,320
Speaker 1: the same way. I mean, you're you're running the same

1803
01:26:38,400 --> 01:26:40,960
Speaker 1: risk anyway with either guy you put out there. So

1804
01:26:41,160 --> 01:26:43,600
Speaker 1: either way, the guy who's still standing is going to

1805
01:26:43,640 --> 01:26:45,920
Speaker 1: get to play. You're staying. Neither quarterback's going to survive

1806
01:26:46,000 --> 01:26:48,800
Speaker 1: because you got fifteen games left and you don't think

1807
01:26:48,840 --> 01:26:50,479
Speaker 1: either one of them is going to survive one or two.

1808
01:26:50,960 --> 01:26:54,200
Speaker 1: So what are we talking about. I mean, you can't

1809
01:26:54,280 --> 01:26:56,840
Speaker 1: you can't go into this thinking that neither of these

1810
01:26:56,920 --> 01:27:00,519
Speaker 1: quarterbacks are going to even survive the season. Well, I

1811
01:27:00,640 --> 01:27:03,599
Speaker 1: think that that Alan has a better chance because he's

1812
01:27:03,640 --> 01:27:07,040
Speaker 1: bigger and can run and has mobility that Peterman doesn't.

1813
01:27:07,080 --> 01:27:11,559
Speaker 1: But unfortunately we saw yesterday. You know, you can say

1814
01:27:11,640 --> 01:27:14,280
Speaker 1: that Baltimore's got a great defense, but they were all

1815
01:27:14,400 --> 01:27:19,160
Speaker 1: over everything in our backfield most of the day, and

1816
01:27:19,479 --> 01:27:23,320
Speaker 1: so I just think that unfortunately, our line has to

1817
01:27:23,439 --> 01:27:27,599
Speaker 1: step up to protect either quarterback. Yeah, you're yeah, you're

1818
01:27:27,640 --> 01:27:30,519
Speaker 1: saying that. Really that it's it doesn't matter about the

1819
01:27:30,600 --> 01:27:32,479
Speaker 1: quarterbacks until they actually have a chance to run the

1820
01:27:32,520 --> 01:27:35,439
Speaker 1: offense behind an offensive line that is better than the

1821
01:27:35,520 --> 01:27:39,000
Speaker 1: one they've got. Well, unfortunately, somebody's got to play quarterback

1822
01:27:39,080 --> 01:27:44,599
Speaker 1: this year and is ready. Yeah, you can't. You gotta

1823
01:27:44,680 --> 01:27:46,400
Speaker 1: keep goal, you gotta keep rolling. Now you can say,

1824
01:27:46,479 --> 01:27:48,120
Speaker 1: you know, you can offer some suggestions on what they

1825
01:27:48,160 --> 01:27:50,320
Speaker 1: should do at offensive line. I mean, they can't go

1826
01:27:50,360 --> 01:27:52,240
Speaker 1: out and sign free agent. There's nobody out there worth

1827
01:27:52,280 --> 01:27:55,960
Speaker 1: signing now, and they don't have the money to do it. Anyway. Um,

1828
01:27:56,800 --> 01:27:58,640
Speaker 1: they may move you know, you can take Groy, put

1829
01:27:58,760 --> 01:28:00,360
Speaker 1: him at guard, take one of the guards out that

1830
01:28:00,360 --> 01:28:02,840
Speaker 1: you could put Bodine in at guard, or whatever you want.

1831
01:28:03,040 --> 01:28:07,240
Speaker 1: They were doing that throughout the preseason. And if you remember, uh,

1832
01:28:07,880 --> 01:28:10,519
Speaker 1: the Cleveland has Cincinnati preseason games where we first started

1833
01:28:10,560 --> 01:28:12,880
Speaker 1: to see the problems. Uh, and that's when they were

1834
01:28:12,920 --> 01:28:15,200
Speaker 1: moving these guys around. So I think, if you're gonna

1835
01:28:15,280 --> 01:28:19,040
Speaker 1: fix the offensive line, you better fix it by giving

1836
01:28:19,080 --> 01:28:23,320
Speaker 1: these guys the offensive lineman superman pills or something, because

1837
01:28:23,320 --> 01:28:24,760
Speaker 1: they got to Those are the guys. The guys got

1838
01:28:24,840 --> 01:28:26,320
Speaker 1: to play better. That's all there is to it. They've

1839
01:28:26,360 --> 01:28:28,120
Speaker 1: got to play better up in front because you're not

1840
01:28:28,160 --> 01:28:29,960
Speaker 1: going to get new guys to come in and play.

1841
01:28:30,200 --> 01:28:32,360
Speaker 1: Thanks for your call. Let's go to H. Dennis in

1842
01:28:32,560 --> 01:28:34,160
Speaker 1: the lockboard. Hid Dennis, go ahead, and you're on the

1843
01:28:34,200 --> 01:28:40,439
Speaker 1: air with this. What are you doing good? Uh? Well

1844
01:28:40,479 --> 01:28:44,000
Speaker 1: we were. We had egg Emmanuel. He was a number

1845
01:28:44,040 --> 01:28:47,519
Speaker 1: one draft choice for us, and we threw them in

1846
01:28:47,600 --> 01:28:52,720
Speaker 1: there right away. Where's where's EJ? Now? Okay, yeah, you're

1847
01:28:52,720 --> 01:28:56,360
Speaker 1: not playing. What's your point? Yeah? The point point is

1848
01:28:56,800 --> 01:29:01,120
Speaker 1: is that he needs time. Even when Rogers spent through

1849
01:29:01,400 --> 01:29:05,120
Speaker 1: three years on the bench, learning behind the Hall of Famer. Yeah,

1850
01:29:05,120 --> 01:29:08,559
Speaker 1: the Bills don't have that luxury. Yeah, look, it's not optimal, right,

1851
01:29:09,040 --> 01:29:11,599
Speaker 1: But and I'm not advocating, by the way, starting Josh

1852
01:29:11,640 --> 01:29:14,000
Speaker 1: Allen the Sunday. I can't figure out their arguments to

1853
01:29:14,040 --> 01:29:17,040
Speaker 1: be made on both sides. But to me, the goal

1854
01:29:17,200 --> 01:29:18,840
Speaker 1: is to win, to win this Sunday, and then who's

1855
01:29:18,840 --> 01:29:20,599
Speaker 1: going to give us the best chance to win next Sunday.

1856
01:29:20,880 --> 01:29:23,360
Speaker 1: It may be that Josh Allen provides them a better

1857
01:29:23,479 --> 01:29:26,679
Speaker 1: chance of winning this Sunday at some peril, I guess

1858
01:29:26,720 --> 01:29:29,840
Speaker 1: as the earlier caller worried about to his well being. Yeah,

1859
01:29:29,880 --> 01:29:31,439
Speaker 1: he might get hit, he might get banged around a

1860
01:29:31,439 --> 01:29:33,799
Speaker 1: little bit. He would not be the first rookie quarterback

1861
01:29:33,840 --> 01:29:37,720
Speaker 1: guy banging around yesterday. Yeah, So let's just figure if

1862
01:29:37,720 --> 01:29:40,360
Speaker 1: I'm if it's up to me, my decision would be

1863
01:29:40,600 --> 01:29:42,519
Speaker 1: who gives us the best chance to meet the Chargers

1864
01:29:42,560 --> 01:29:46,000
Speaker 1: this Sunday? And it could be Josh Allen. Despite what

1865
01:29:46,160 --> 01:29:48,240
Speaker 1: happened to EJ. Manuel, I mean EJ's not in the

1866
01:29:48,320 --> 01:29:54,120
Speaker 1: same conversation really, right. I agree, Josh Allen was a

1867
01:29:54,240 --> 01:29:58,840
Speaker 1: guy that his physical abilities and his resume physically and

1868
01:29:58,920 --> 01:30:00,599
Speaker 1: his pro days and stuff put him at the top

1869
01:30:00,680 --> 01:30:04,400
Speaker 1: of the first round. The only thing that didn't put

1870
01:30:04,479 --> 01:30:05,880
Speaker 1: him is the first pick of the draft was his

1871
01:30:05,960 --> 01:30:10,920
Speaker 1: completion percentage. EJ. Manuel was. You don't have to compare

1872
01:30:10,920 --> 01:30:13,519
Speaker 1: those things, right, it was different. He was not that

1873
01:30:15,800 --> 01:30:19,120
Speaker 1: ate first round, right, So I get that. But if

1874
01:30:19,160 --> 01:30:22,800
Speaker 1: you but here's the thing. You can say that neither

1875
01:30:22,880 --> 01:30:27,160
Speaker 1: quarterback will be successful going in, but you can't worry

1876
01:30:27,200 --> 01:30:29,120
Speaker 1: about which guy's going to be able to stand upright

1877
01:30:29,160 --> 01:30:30,599
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, both these guys are

1878
01:30:30,600 --> 01:30:33,080
Speaker 1: gonna go in there and they're gonna try and run

1879
01:30:33,120 --> 01:30:34,680
Speaker 1: the offense. Who gives him the best chance to win

1880
01:30:34,720 --> 01:30:38,519
Speaker 1: on Sunday, that's the question. You can't worry about whether

1881
01:30:38,600 --> 01:30:42,479
Speaker 1: you're gonna hurt Josh Allen's psych that he's gonna be

1882
01:30:42,960 --> 01:30:45,360
Speaker 1: so awful that he's gonna be scarred for life. You

1883
01:30:45,439 --> 01:30:47,280
Speaker 1: can't worry about that. You gotta let the kid play.

1884
01:30:47,280 --> 01:30:49,240
Speaker 1: If he's ready to play, if he can go out

1885
01:30:49,280 --> 01:30:50,680
Speaker 1: and take snaps, and if he gives you the best

1886
01:30:50,760 --> 01:30:53,519
Speaker 1: chance to win. Now, whether he's ready to play great,

1887
01:30:53,680 --> 01:30:55,760
Speaker 1: whether he's ready to play like anybody like we saw

1888
01:30:55,840 --> 01:30:58,320
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers play last night late in that game. I

1889
01:30:58,479 --> 01:31:00,519
Speaker 1: kind of doubt that, but hey, you got to get

1890
01:31:00,520 --> 01:31:03,519
Speaker 1: there some point. Which quarterback should they play and what

1891
01:31:03,600 --> 01:31:05,439
Speaker 1: about the rest of the league. We'll talk with Kyle

1892
01:31:05,560 --> 01:31:07,920
Speaker 1: Brandt from NFL Network when we returned. Steve and I

1893
01:31:08,040 --> 01:31:10,280
Speaker 1: back with one more hour, One Bills Live from One

1894
01:31:10,360 --> 01:31:24,400
Speaker 1: Bill's Drive on Buffalo Bills Radio Hills Radio Network Sports Date.

1895
01:31:25,720 --> 01:31:27,920
Speaker 1: The update from One Bill's Drive where the Buffalo Bills

1896
01:31:27,960 --> 01:31:30,360
Speaker 1: are back at work picking up the pieces after yesterday's

1897
01:31:30,400 --> 01:31:33,439
Speaker 1: last in Baltimore. Head coach Sean McDermott addresses the media

1898
01:31:33,439 --> 01:31:35,599
Speaker 1: at four o'clock this afternoon. He will be asked about

1899
01:31:35,640 --> 01:31:38,120
Speaker 1: his quarterback situation what he plans to do there. Nathan

1900
01:31:38,160 --> 01:31:40,800
Speaker 1: Peterman lifted in the third quarter yesterday, replaced by rookie

1901
01:31:40,920 --> 01:31:44,120
Speaker 1: johsh Allen. Peterman struggled badly. The whole Bill's offense did

1902
01:31:44,200 --> 01:31:46,559
Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty three yards of total offense. They

1903
01:31:46,640 --> 01:31:49,200
Speaker 1: with two of fifteen on third downs, gave up six sacks.

1904
01:31:49,240 --> 01:31:51,320
Speaker 1: The defense not much better either. They do have some

1905
01:31:51,400 --> 01:31:55,200
Speaker 1: issues in the defensive backfield as well. Vante Davis inactive yesterday.

1906
01:31:55,320 --> 01:31:57,280
Speaker 1: Nickel corner to Ron Johnson left the game in the

1907
01:31:57,280 --> 01:31:59,759
Speaker 1: first half of the shoulder and dream maybe an update

1908
01:31:59,800 --> 01:32:02,680
Speaker 1: on johnson shoulder coming up from a tournament. Bill's home

1909
01:32:02,720 --> 01:32:05,760
Speaker 1: offeners Sunday one o'clock the Los Angeles Chargers coming to

1910
01:32:05,840 --> 01:32:09,000
Speaker 1: town to play the Bills at New Airfield. Two Monday

1911
01:32:09,040 --> 01:32:12,280
Speaker 1: night football games tonight the Detroit Lions, with Matt Patricia

1912
01:32:12,360 --> 01:32:15,840
Speaker 1: making his NFL head coaching debut. They kick it off

1913
01:32:15,880 --> 01:32:18,120
Speaker 1: tonight at seven ten at Ford Field in Detroit against

1914
01:32:18,120 --> 01:32:20,920
Speaker 1: the New York Jets. Rookie Sam Tarnald, number three overall

1915
01:32:20,960 --> 01:32:23,559
Speaker 1: pick in the NFL draft, is starting for the Jets tonight,

1916
01:32:23,640 --> 01:32:26,200
Speaker 1: making that a compelling game to watch seven ten. Following

1917
01:32:26,280 --> 01:32:29,080
Speaker 1: that ten twenty tonight the Rams and the Raiders. John

1918
01:32:29,120 --> 01:32:31,800
Speaker 1: Gruden returns to the sideline for the first time since

1919
01:32:31,880 --> 01:32:35,040
Speaker 1: two thousand and eight, one hundred career wins, eighty five losses,

1920
01:32:35,080 --> 01:32:38,800
Speaker 1: including playoffs. Aaron Rodgers basketing the glow of his tremendous

1921
01:32:38,840 --> 01:32:41,400
Speaker 1: performance in the second half of return for the Ages.

1922
01:32:41,479 --> 01:32:44,040
Speaker 1: The Rogers led the Packers back from a twenty point

1923
01:32:44,120 --> 01:32:47,120
Speaker 1: deficit to beat the Chicago Bears twenty four to twenty three.

1924
01:32:47,400 --> 01:32:50,800
Speaker 1: Last night at lambeau Field Hockey, the Buffalo Sabers ramping

1925
01:32:50,920 --> 01:32:54,879
Speaker 1: up their Prospects Challenge tournament. Today. They're playing the Pittsburgh Penguins.

1926
01:32:54,920 --> 01:32:57,519
Speaker 1: As we speak, Buffalo leads at three to nothing at

1927
01:32:57,520 --> 01:32:59,960
Speaker 1: the end of two periods at the Harbor Center Downtown.

1928
01:33:00,120 --> 01:33:03,519
Speaker 1: Training camp opens the Thursday. Players arrived for testing in

1929
01:33:03,640 --> 01:33:06,760
Speaker 1: physicals on the ice. Friday, all on ice sessions are

1930
01:33:06,800 --> 01:33:09,080
Speaker 1: open to the public for Savers training camp and a

1931
01:33:09,120 --> 01:33:12,599
Speaker 1: hockey trade. Last night, Max Pecheretti going from the Montreal

1932
01:33:12,720 --> 01:33:15,320
Speaker 1: Canadians to Las Vegas. The Golden Knights acquire the all

1933
01:33:15,360 --> 01:33:18,880
Speaker 1: star forward from the Canadians for Thomas Tatar, prospect Nick

1934
01:33:18,960 --> 01:33:21,439
Speaker 1: Suzuki and a second round draft pick. That's the update

1935
01:33:21,479 --> 01:33:23,880
Speaker 1: from One Bill's Drive, John Murphy, Steve Tasker in our

1936
01:33:23,920 --> 01:33:26,559
Speaker 1: final hour of the three hours show, One Bill's Line

1937
01:33:26,640 --> 01:33:29,040
Speaker 1: from One Bill's Drive and joining us on the subway

1938
01:33:29,080 --> 01:33:31,280
Speaker 1: Fresh Jake Hotline, a guy who got a finger on

1939
01:33:31,360 --> 01:33:33,960
Speaker 1: the pulse of the entire NFL. Happy to have him

1940
01:33:34,000 --> 01:33:36,240
Speaker 1: on the line with this. Kyle brand NFL Network host

1941
01:33:36,479 --> 01:33:39,759
Speaker 1: a new show debuting this Friday night on NFL Network

1942
01:33:39,840 --> 01:33:43,160
Speaker 1: to Kyle Brandt Football Experience, Kylis, John Murphy and Steve

1943
01:33:43,240 --> 01:33:44,800
Speaker 1: Tasker here in Buffalo. Thank you for being on with

1944
01:33:44,880 --> 01:33:47,679
Speaker 1: us today. John, I'm thrilled to be on with you, Steve,

1945
01:33:47,720 --> 01:33:49,840
Speaker 1: you as well. I respect you, guys. I worked in

1946
01:33:49,960 --> 01:33:51,640
Speaker 1: radio for a long time, so I know it's not

1947
01:33:51,720 --> 01:33:55,080
Speaker 1: always easy following what happened in Baltimore to get on

1948
01:33:55,160 --> 01:33:57,080
Speaker 1: the air and do your thing. And you guys got

1949
01:33:57,120 --> 01:33:59,200
Speaker 1: me on fire. Let's go be too, Charger. Here you go,

1950
01:34:00,040 --> 01:34:02,320
Speaker 1: you're cooking. It's one of the things that I've always

1951
01:34:02,360 --> 01:34:04,439
Speaker 1: done is spin it forward and think about the next one.

1952
01:34:04,479 --> 01:34:06,479
Speaker 1: That's what players do. I know you played a little

1953
01:34:06,479 --> 01:34:08,640
Speaker 1: college football as well. I want to ask you too,

1954
01:34:09,040 --> 01:34:11,080
Speaker 1: And because you and Murph have something to come, you're

1955
01:34:11,120 --> 01:34:13,400
Speaker 1: doing play by play for the Bears preseason. Talk about

1956
01:34:13,400 --> 01:34:15,559
Speaker 1: the Bears performance last night and how that game got

1957
01:34:15,560 --> 01:34:19,400
Speaker 1: away from him. Oh my gosh, guys, that was a crazy,

1958
01:34:19,840 --> 01:34:22,360
Speaker 1: crazy game. And you think you've seen them all, and

1959
01:34:22,840 --> 01:34:24,600
Speaker 1: you think as a as a guy I grew up

1960
01:34:24,600 --> 01:34:26,960
Speaker 1: in Chicago, you know, I got connections to Chicago, and

1961
01:34:27,240 --> 01:34:29,000
Speaker 1: I feel like, you know, they had this whole thing

1962
01:34:29,080 --> 01:34:32,559
Speaker 1: with ten fifteen years plus. Guy, we can never beat Farve.

1963
01:34:32,640 --> 01:34:34,680
Speaker 1: We can never beat Farve. He's got to retire, sure enough,

1964
01:34:34,720 --> 01:34:36,479
Speaker 1: he finally leaves. Then it's like Rogers oh, we can

1965
01:34:36,520 --> 01:34:38,680
Speaker 1: never beat Rogers. So what do you do. All you

1966
01:34:38,720 --> 01:34:40,680
Speaker 1: can ask as a fan is go out and get

1967
01:34:40,720 --> 01:34:44,720
Speaker 1: the best players, spend money, be aggressive draft. Well they did.

1968
01:34:44,960 --> 01:34:47,800
Speaker 1: They brought in every weapon you could possibly beat. They

1969
01:34:47,880 --> 01:34:50,240
Speaker 1: knock Rogers out of the game, and then the guys

1970
01:34:50,280 --> 01:34:53,200
Speaker 1: like the Revenant, there's something he comes back and kills

1971
01:34:53,280 --> 01:34:56,519
Speaker 1: the Bear, just like the Gaprio. It's a strange speed

1972
01:34:56,560 --> 01:34:59,040
Speaker 1: redream for Bears fans. This morning, I would say, though,

1973
01:34:59,080 --> 01:35:00,880
Speaker 1: and it was a great game, Kyle, I said to

1974
01:35:00,920 --> 01:35:03,280
Speaker 1: Steve here when we got going into work this morning.

1975
01:35:03,520 --> 01:35:05,360
Speaker 1: That game last night, and I was not in the

1976
01:35:05,439 --> 01:35:07,080
Speaker 1: mood to stay up and watch. I was tired. We

1977
01:35:07,200 --> 01:35:09,639
Speaker 1: just got back from Baltimore last night. But that game

1978
01:35:09,720 --> 01:35:13,400
Speaker 1: reaffirmed my belief that NFL football is really fun to watch.

1979
01:35:13,680 --> 01:35:16,280
Speaker 1: That was a great game to watch last night. I thought, Yeah,

1980
01:35:16,320 --> 01:35:18,760
Speaker 1: And you know what, some of the games yesterday we're not.

1981
01:35:18,880 --> 01:35:21,000
Speaker 1: We're excruciating. I don't even I mean the box. I

1982
01:35:21,040 --> 01:35:25,200
Speaker 1: mean that Panthers Cowboys was bad, and the Dolphins Titans

1983
01:35:25,240 --> 01:35:28,240
Speaker 1: couldn't make up their mind. And then surnof You came out. Yeah,

1984
01:35:28,240 --> 01:35:30,360
Speaker 1: the highest offensive player in the league, the highest defensive

1985
01:35:30,360 --> 01:35:32,280
Speaker 1: player in the league and just went at it. I

1986
01:35:32,360 --> 01:35:34,479
Speaker 1: mean it was you know, you see guys they leave

1987
01:35:34,520 --> 01:35:37,160
Speaker 1: the game and they come back. You don't generally see

1988
01:35:37,320 --> 01:35:39,639
Speaker 1: guys on the cart and come back. I mean, Aaron

1989
01:35:39,720 --> 01:35:42,639
Speaker 1: Rodgers was not den He carded off. That means at

1990
01:35:42,680 --> 01:35:45,960
Speaker 1: the very least your night's over, potentially your season's over.

1991
01:35:46,439 --> 01:35:48,639
Speaker 1: And then he crawled out of the dirt, not only

1992
01:35:48,720 --> 01:35:51,200
Speaker 1: to get back out there, but just to start throwing Daggers.

1993
01:35:51,280 --> 01:35:54,479
Speaker 1: It was really one of the great performances of Roger's career.

1994
01:35:54,640 --> 01:35:58,240
Speaker 1: So I feel like it really brought home that Sunday,

1995
01:35:58,320 --> 01:36:01,160
Speaker 1: that opening Sunday and then doubleheaded night. So the Fisher

1996
01:36:01,280 --> 01:36:04,360
Speaker 1: jumping into the boy, I will say this, and you

1997
01:36:04,560 --> 01:36:06,240
Speaker 1: you are close to the Bears, as Steve said, you

1998
01:36:06,280 --> 01:36:09,400
Speaker 1: did their preseason games. I'm sure they're discouraged today, but

1999
01:36:09,560 --> 01:36:11,599
Speaker 1: they got to be ecstatic about what they got from

2000
01:36:11,640 --> 01:36:14,120
Speaker 1: Khalil Mack and the promise of what's left to come

2001
01:36:14,200 --> 01:36:17,599
Speaker 1: from from him in his performance last night. Wasn't that wild? Yeah?

2002
01:36:17,640 --> 01:36:20,160
Speaker 1: I think, man, that's two first round picks. I mean,

2003
01:36:20,200 --> 01:36:21,760
Speaker 1: I know the guy can play, but you know he

2004
01:36:21,880 --> 01:36:24,240
Speaker 1: better be some sort of real difference maker. And then

2005
01:36:24,760 --> 01:36:27,840
Speaker 1: he's ripping the ball out of quarterback's hands. He's intercepting him.

2006
01:36:28,040 --> 01:36:31,519
Speaker 1: He was truly this like video game Juggernaut that they

2007
01:36:31,600 --> 01:36:34,280
Speaker 1: paid for. I feel like Halfway passed his pick six.

2008
01:36:34,360 --> 01:36:35,680
Speaker 1: I mean the Raiders had to be calling for a

2009
01:36:35,760 --> 01:36:38,640
Speaker 1: third first round pick because they got actually hold right.

2010
01:36:38,640 --> 01:36:40,800
Speaker 1: I mean, Khalil Mack looks I've never seen. I mean,

2011
01:36:40,840 --> 01:36:42,840
Speaker 1: it looks like Laurence Taylor last night. Yes he did. Yeah,

2012
01:36:42,880 --> 01:36:45,080
Speaker 1: he looked really good. And you know, talked to a

2013
01:36:45,120 --> 01:36:48,519
Speaker 1: little bit about that rivalry. I mean, you grew up

2014
01:36:48,520 --> 01:36:52,680
Speaker 1: in Chicago. I went to school in Chicago. That has

2015
01:36:52,760 --> 01:36:55,360
Speaker 1: been I mean, even you talk I even't spoke to

2016
01:36:55,439 --> 01:36:57,479
Speaker 1: Mike Dickie used to work for CBS with me, and

2017
01:36:57,760 --> 01:36:59,479
Speaker 1: even to this day when he was an old guy.

2018
01:36:59,520 --> 01:37:00,960
Speaker 1: He still is an old guy, but he's an older

2019
01:37:01,000 --> 01:37:03,760
Speaker 1: guy now. Even then, as a retired old guy in

2020
01:37:03,880 --> 01:37:08,479
Speaker 1: the TV world, he hated the Packers. I mean, what

2021
01:37:08,720 --> 01:37:12,240
Speaker 1: is it about that rivalry that runs so deep? You

2022
01:37:12,320 --> 01:37:16,799
Speaker 1: know what it's It's it's geographic. It's it's northern obviously,

2023
01:37:16,840 --> 01:37:20,880
Speaker 1: it's northern Illinois, southern Wisconsin, and it's just there's so

2024
01:37:21,040 --> 01:37:23,320
Speaker 1: much great history and because you like put it this way,

2025
01:37:23,640 --> 01:37:25,320
Speaker 1: if you're a fan of the Bears and Packers and

2026
01:37:25,400 --> 01:37:28,520
Speaker 1: that rivalry. So was your dad, and so is your grandfather,

2027
01:37:28,680 --> 01:37:31,120
Speaker 1: and so is his grandfather. The thing goes back a

2028
01:37:31,240 --> 01:37:33,680
Speaker 1: hundred years. So it's we like to get caught up

2029
01:37:33,760 --> 01:37:36,599
Speaker 1: now and things that. There's some other great rivalries raiders,

2030
01:37:36,720 --> 01:37:39,000
Speaker 1: chiefs and things like that's something more regional. But I

2031
01:37:39,120 --> 01:37:42,640
Speaker 1: feel like the Bears Packers is really like the granddaddy

2032
01:37:42,720 --> 01:37:44,800
Speaker 1: of them all. And it's just you think of all

2033
01:37:44,880 --> 01:37:49,200
Speaker 1: these these classic footage of the frozen Tundra and Soldier

2034
01:37:49,240 --> 01:37:52,639
Speaker 1: Field and George Hollis. It's it's a it's a legacy rivalry.

2035
01:37:52,720 --> 01:37:55,720
Speaker 1: Which is the sad part is now it's it's not

2036
01:37:55,840 --> 01:37:58,519
Speaker 1: a rivalry. They just played twice a year. The nail

2037
01:37:58,600 --> 01:38:00,600
Speaker 1: does not have a rivalry with the Hammer. That's the

2038
01:38:00,720 --> 01:38:03,120
Speaker 1: unfortunate part. And that's why it was supposed to be

2039
01:38:03,200 --> 01:38:05,360
Speaker 1: the difference maker. And this is Rogers is knocked out

2040
01:38:05,360 --> 01:38:07,240
Speaker 1: of the game. They're up to nothing in New Trubisky,

2041
01:38:07,400 --> 01:38:12,439
Speaker 1: New Naggy, This Naggy, that same result man. He is

2042
01:38:12,560 --> 01:38:15,240
Speaker 1: haunting little kid's dreams in Chicago around He's the guy

2043
01:38:15,360 --> 01:38:17,280
Speaker 1: hiding under their bed. Even so it might be the

2044
01:38:17,360 --> 01:38:19,040
Speaker 1: same result. But I'll tell you what, that was a

2045
01:38:19,120 --> 01:38:21,240
Speaker 1: lot different game than it has been in the past

2046
01:38:21,320 --> 01:38:23,560
Speaker 1: for the Bears, Bears Packers. I mean that that was

2047
01:38:23,600 --> 01:38:26,560
Speaker 1: a game where the Bears came out, particularly with Trubisky,

2048
01:38:26,800 --> 01:38:28,680
Speaker 1: and I think late in the game is where you

2049
01:38:28,720 --> 01:38:31,559
Speaker 1: saw the inexperience in the youth of Trubisky compared to Rodgers.

2050
01:38:31,600 --> 01:38:33,920
Speaker 1: There's a couple throws, maybe two or three throws down

2051
01:38:33,960 --> 01:38:37,720
Speaker 1: the stretch Trubisky missed, Aaron Rodgers didn't miss, and when

2052
01:38:37,720 --> 01:38:39,439
Speaker 1: Trubisky had a chance to go down, take him down

2053
01:38:39,439 --> 01:38:43,280
Speaker 1: to get that last field goal. Those throws were the

2054
01:38:43,360 --> 01:38:45,679
Speaker 1: ones that were the difference in the two quarterbacks. Even

2055
01:38:46,040 --> 01:38:47,760
Speaker 1: I'm not saying Trubisky would have made all the throws

2056
01:38:47,760 --> 01:38:50,760
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers through, but all in all, those three or

2057
01:38:50,840 --> 01:38:52,760
Speaker 1: four throws were the difference in that game last night,

2058
01:38:52,800 --> 01:38:55,600
Speaker 1: where Trubisky would have been the guy coming back and

2059
01:38:55,680 --> 01:38:57,640
Speaker 1: bringing his team from behind to win. You know what

2060
01:38:57,720 --> 01:39:00,240
Speaker 1: it is, Steven, and you know this to be the

2061
01:39:00,360 --> 01:39:02,960
Speaker 1: great ones like you have to snap the neck, you

2062
01:39:03,040 --> 01:39:05,760
Speaker 1: have to finish it. You cannot leave it for them

2063
01:39:05,920 --> 01:39:07,880
Speaker 1: to blow it. At the end of that game, with

2064
01:39:08,040 --> 01:39:10,320
Speaker 1: the Bears up three, they had a couple of strange

2065
01:39:10,320 --> 01:39:12,240
Speaker 1: play calls, and they kicked a field goal to go

2066
01:39:12,360 --> 01:39:14,680
Speaker 1: up six, and it's just like you knew it was

2067
01:39:14,720 --> 01:39:17,560
Speaker 1: over then because Rogers had already caught fire. If I

2068
01:39:17,640 --> 01:39:20,280
Speaker 1: feel like, if you're gonna beat Brady, or you're gonna

2069
01:39:20,280 --> 01:39:22,840
Speaker 1: beat Rogers or whoever it was, if it was gonna

2070
01:39:22,880 --> 01:39:26,040
Speaker 1: be Troy Achmator, Jim Kelly, whoever, you have to snap

2071
01:39:26,120 --> 01:39:28,840
Speaker 1: the neck. You can't count on them to mess up

2072
01:39:28,880 --> 01:39:31,160
Speaker 1: because they don't do it. And the Bears are still

2073
01:39:31,240 --> 01:39:33,880
Speaker 1: learning that. I saw some comments from coach Naggy this morning.

2074
01:39:34,360 --> 01:39:36,400
Speaker 1: It was great. He said, you know, I would have

2075
01:39:36,479 --> 01:39:38,599
Speaker 1: changed some play calls that should have run more. Jordan Howard,

2076
01:39:38,800 --> 01:39:41,439
Speaker 1: we're learning. I'm learning, which I respected. You got to

2077
01:39:41,520 --> 01:39:43,040
Speaker 1: learn how to finish guys. They just didn't do it.

2078
01:39:43,160 --> 01:39:45,439
Speaker 1: We're on the line with Calm Brandt from NFL Network

2079
01:39:45,520 --> 01:39:48,320
Speaker 1: host and NFL Network on Good Morning Football. All right,

2080
01:39:48,439 --> 01:39:51,160
Speaker 1: let me change games for you, Kyige game yesterday that

2081
01:39:51,280 --> 01:39:52,799
Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of us here in Buffalo

2082
01:39:52,880 --> 01:39:56,400
Speaker 1: who remember Ryan Fitzpatrick fondly. I just love the fact

2083
01:39:56,439 --> 01:39:58,400
Speaker 1: that he came up with such big numbers and such

2084
01:39:58,439 --> 01:40:01,280
Speaker 1: a really important win for Tampa Bay yesterday. What a

2085
01:40:01,320 --> 01:40:04,080
Speaker 1: great game for fits Huh feel good, wasn't it? Yeah?

2086
01:40:04,120 --> 01:40:06,120
Speaker 1: I mean, how could you not be a Fitzpatrick fan.

2087
01:40:06,240 --> 01:40:08,720
Speaker 1: I even liked afterwards. You know, someone was asking them,

2088
01:40:09,400 --> 01:40:11,519
Speaker 1: is this the greatest game you've ever played? Is this

2089
01:40:11,640 --> 01:40:14,280
Speaker 1: your biggest win? And he said no. You know, he said,

2090
01:40:14,320 --> 01:40:17,040
Speaker 1: I've I've beaten Brady when I was with Buffalo. You

2091
01:40:17,080 --> 01:40:19,760
Speaker 1: know I've done this. I've thrown six touchdowns in the game.

2092
01:40:19,960 --> 01:40:22,439
Speaker 1: I've thrown six interceptions in a game. He was talking

2093
01:40:22,479 --> 01:40:24,720
Speaker 1: about a college coach. He's one of those guys that

2094
01:40:25,040 --> 01:40:27,120
Speaker 1: he's not even gone yet and I already miss him.

2095
01:40:27,280 --> 01:40:30,920
Speaker 1: I mean, he's five touchdowns yesterday, six kids at home

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Speaker 1: with the ridiculous fishing and the baton tackle had afterwards,

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01:40:34,960 --> 01:40:37,599
Speaker 1: and the beard and he's running for touchdowns. Two guy,

2098
01:40:37,640 --> 01:40:39,760
Speaker 1: he lowered, he lowered his shoulder. It was really it

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01:40:39,880 --> 01:40:42,040
Speaker 1: was really one of the great days that we've seen

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Speaker 1: from a quarterback. And certainly, listen, I know there's a

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Speaker 1: lot of sports radio callers down in Florida about this,

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Speaker 1: but that day was certainly any better than any day

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01:40:50,240 --> 01:40:52,240
Speaker 1: we've seen from Jameis Winston. So if he comes out

2104
01:40:52,240 --> 01:40:55,040
Speaker 1: and Fitzgerald does it again or Fitzpatrick rather than they

2105
01:40:55,120 --> 01:40:56,600
Speaker 1: really have a quandry in their hands. It's just like

2106
01:40:56,680 --> 01:40:59,400
Speaker 1: you guys doing Buffalo by the way, Yeah we're in Buffalo.

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01:40:59,520 --> 01:41:04,680
Speaker 1: I know you're Yeah. The hilarious part of it is

2108
01:41:04,760 --> 01:41:06,720
Speaker 1: we've seen fitz bounce around the league to a lot

2109
01:41:06,760 --> 01:41:10,160
Speaker 1: of different places. If if if he landed somehow's a

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01:41:10,240 --> 01:41:12,799
Speaker 1: backup in Green Bay or a backup in New England,

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01:41:13,400 --> 01:41:16,160
Speaker 1: he would be starting within two weeks. Just something would

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01:41:16,200 --> 01:41:19,400
Speaker 1: happen that would It doesn't matter who is ahead of him.

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Speaker 1: Ryan Fitzpatrick ends up starting for whatever team he plays for, Jets, Buffalo,

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Speaker 1: Tampa Bay. Now, um, it just happens, and it's he's

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01:41:28,320 --> 01:41:31,200
Speaker 1: one of the guys who you know, there's I don't

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01:41:31,240 --> 01:41:32,680
Speaker 1: know what it is. He's got a tattoo of a

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01:41:32,760 --> 01:41:35,160
Speaker 1: lucky clover on his arm, I guess or something. He

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01:41:35,360 --> 01:41:38,400
Speaker 1: always gets into play, yeah, and then he always plays well,

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01:41:38,840 --> 01:41:41,160
Speaker 1: and then he gets paid, and then he doesn't play

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01:41:41,280 --> 01:41:43,840
Speaker 1: terribly well, and then he starts over the cycle. It's

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01:41:44,439 --> 01:41:47,679
Speaker 1: really remarkable because it doesn't have some massive physical gifts.

2122
01:41:48,000 --> 01:41:50,280
Speaker 1: He's not like, he's not a one of these massive

2123
01:41:50,400 --> 01:41:53,200
Speaker 1: arm guys. He's thirty five, well, and yet, like you know,

2124
01:41:53,320 --> 01:41:55,240
Speaker 1: a Prinston guy, he's a Harvard guy. I mean, you

2125
01:41:55,520 --> 01:41:56,960
Speaker 1: kind of get it. You get by on your wits

2126
01:41:57,040 --> 01:41:59,920
Speaker 1: and your grit, and that's what That's what Ryan Fitzpatrick does.

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Speaker 1: I gotta ask you another thing about another game that

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01:42:02,320 --> 01:42:05,760
Speaker 1: went down. So the so the Browns do the browniest

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01:42:05,840 --> 01:42:09,320
Speaker 1: thing ever and end up, you know, they they're off

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01:42:09,360 --> 01:42:11,599
Speaker 1: to their best start since two thousand and four. They're

2131
01:42:11,640 --> 01:42:14,840
Speaker 1: oo and one um talk a little bit about that

2132
01:42:14,920 --> 01:42:18,920
Speaker 1: game and how unbelievable it is that the Browns go

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01:42:19,040 --> 01:42:22,080
Speaker 1: down this road this early in the season. Oh man,

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01:42:22,439 --> 01:42:25,599
Speaker 1: it's how can I start with the Browns? It's it's

2135
01:42:26,080 --> 01:42:28,840
Speaker 1: you can't lose that game. You're at home. They had

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01:42:28,920 --> 01:42:31,439
Speaker 1: six turnovers. And this is the bully on your block.

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01:42:31,640 --> 01:42:33,920
Speaker 1: This is the guy who pushes you around and shoves

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01:42:33,960 --> 01:42:36,559
Speaker 1: you in lockers. This is the Steelers. You're at home,

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01:42:36,680 --> 01:42:38,719
Speaker 1: you got a new quarterback, you got all these fancy

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01:42:38,840 --> 01:42:41,840
Speaker 1: draft picks. The Steelers wanted so badly for you to

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01:42:41,880 --> 01:42:44,360
Speaker 1: win that game. So, I mean, Roethlisberger tried his hardest

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01:42:44,360 --> 01:42:46,000
Speaker 1: to have the Browns win that game. And I don't

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01:42:46,040 --> 01:42:47,960
Speaker 1: know what the percentages are, Steve, You're the specially the

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01:42:48,000 --> 01:42:50,280
Speaker 1: special teams. God, I can't I can't imagine what the

2145
01:42:50,360 --> 01:42:53,320
Speaker 1: percentages offer. What percentage of field goals in the NFL,

2146
01:42:53,560 --> 01:42:56,840
Speaker 1: NFL get blocked. It must be less than five. Oh,

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01:42:56,880 --> 01:43:00,280
Speaker 1: it's less. It's a tenth of a percent, I think, scent.

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01:43:00,720 --> 01:43:03,120
Speaker 1: And yet there they got the Browns. They got a

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01:43:03,200 --> 01:43:05,360
Speaker 1: kicker named Zane and he lines up, and I get

2150
01:43:05,439 --> 01:43:07,880
Speaker 1: that it's wet outside, but these are pros. They usually

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01:43:07,960 --> 01:43:10,640
Speaker 1: make it, and they blocked it. So a tenth of

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01:43:10,680 --> 01:43:13,000
Speaker 1: a percent comes through when you're trying to get your

2153
01:43:13,040 --> 01:43:16,720
Speaker 1: first win since Christmas Eve twenty sixteen. I'm wondering if

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01:43:16,760 --> 01:43:19,400
Speaker 1: it is the brownsiest thing of all time? And I

2155
01:43:19,479 --> 01:43:22,080
Speaker 1: think we might be there. Guys, this this Hugh Jackson

2156
01:43:22,400 --> 01:43:26,560
Speaker 1: era is remarkable. They're gonna write books about it. With

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01:43:26,760 --> 01:43:29,240
Speaker 1: Kyle Brand from NFL Network, tell me a little bit

2158
01:43:29,600 --> 01:43:32,040
Speaker 1: of your thought on the Chiefs win over the Chargers,

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01:43:32,080 --> 01:43:35,160
Speaker 1: in particular Tyreek Hill and Pat Mahomes. I mean, it's

2160
01:43:35,200 --> 01:43:38,080
Speaker 1: like a new generation in Kansas City Chiefs already to

2161
01:43:38,160 --> 01:43:39,880
Speaker 1: just keep putting up points on the board. I guess

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01:43:39,920 --> 01:43:43,120
Speaker 1: now you know, it's like I feel like Andy Reid

2163
01:43:43,479 --> 01:43:46,519
Speaker 1: with Patrick Mahomes and Tyree Hill. I don't know about you, guys.

2164
01:43:46,520 --> 01:43:48,120
Speaker 1: I got a couple of little kids at home, and

2165
01:43:48,479 --> 01:43:50,519
Speaker 1: I spoil them as much as I can. And sometimes

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01:43:50,560 --> 01:43:51,920
Speaker 1: I'll buy a toy that's like, you know, it's a

2167
01:43:52,040 --> 01:43:53,840
Speaker 1: nice toy. It's a little bit on the higher than

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01:43:54,000 --> 01:43:56,280
Speaker 1: the higher price side. And sometimes I gave it to

2169
01:43:56,360 --> 01:43:57,800
Speaker 1: my son and he couldn't care less about it. He

2170
01:43:57,840 --> 01:43:59,840
Speaker 1: discards it in two seconds. It just wants to jump

2171
01:43:59,880 --> 01:44:03,240
Speaker 1: on the bubble wrap, all right. Patrick Mahomes is the

2172
01:44:03,400 --> 01:44:06,800
Speaker 1: expensive toy that Andy Reid wants to play with and

2173
01:44:06,920 --> 01:44:09,080
Speaker 1: he can't get it away from him, and he paid

2174
01:44:09,080 --> 01:44:12,240
Speaker 1: a huge price to get it. And that game yesterday

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01:44:12,600 --> 01:44:15,960
Speaker 1: was awesome. I mean they I saw them run triple

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01:44:16,040 --> 01:44:19,120
Speaker 1: option with six different kinds of motion. I saw him

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Speaker 1: throw a touchdown pass downfield to a tight end. I

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01:44:21,560 --> 01:44:25,280
Speaker 1: saw him do everything Andy Reid seems at home. Tyree

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01:44:25,400 --> 01:44:28,840
Speaker 1: Hill is a joke. I mean Philip Rivers after the game.

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01:44:29,200 --> 01:44:32,960
Speaker 1: Philip Rivers, who has seen everything and wouldn't be the

2181
01:44:33,000 --> 01:44:35,800
Speaker 1: first person necessarily to do backflips so to speak about

2182
01:44:35,800 --> 01:44:38,280
Speaker 1: an opposing player. Rivers is saying, I gotta be careful.

2183
01:44:38,320 --> 01:44:40,400
Speaker 1: I put this. I've never seen anybody do what he does.

2184
01:44:40,520 --> 01:44:42,680
Speaker 1: He's one of the greatest I've ever seen. And this

2185
01:44:42,800 --> 01:44:45,639
Speaker 1: is Tyreek Hill, now, who is not just this circus

2186
01:44:45,760 --> 01:44:49,200
Speaker 1: show return man. He's making big acrobatic catches. He's going

2187
01:44:49,280 --> 01:44:51,719
Speaker 1: up and getting them, and I'll bring him home with this. Guys,

2188
01:44:52,200 --> 01:44:54,560
Speaker 1: let's just remember and it pertains to a lot of

2189
01:44:54,640 --> 01:44:57,200
Speaker 1: quarterback conversations in the country right now, certainly where you

2190
01:44:57,320 --> 01:44:59,840
Speaker 1: guys are that Patrick Mahomes. The best thing they could

2191
01:44:59,840 --> 01:45:02,080
Speaker 1: have ever done for him was they sat him a

2192
01:45:02,200 --> 01:45:05,960
Speaker 1: whole year and just let him learn and marinate and

2193
01:45:06,320 --> 01:45:08,960
Speaker 1: educate himself. They play one, he has one game. At

2194
01:45:08,960 --> 01:45:10,400
Speaker 1: the end of the year, it's already meaningless, and then

2195
01:45:10,400 --> 01:45:12,519
Speaker 1: he comes in to start that second year and he

2196
01:45:12,800 --> 01:45:17,240
Speaker 1: looked like an all pro calm, comfortable, not rattled, no

2197
01:45:17,439 --> 01:45:19,800
Speaker 1: happy seat. I think it was the best thing for it,

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01:45:19,880 --> 01:45:21,360
Speaker 1: and I think a lot of other teams should take

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01:45:21,400 --> 01:45:25,040
Speaker 1: notice with their rookies. All Right, we've gone this long

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01:45:25,120 --> 01:45:27,120
Speaker 1: without talking about the Bills, and we have to now

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01:45:27,439 --> 01:45:30,519
Speaker 1: with you, Kyle, tell us your take, if any that

2202
01:45:30,640 --> 01:45:33,680
Speaker 1: you might have about the Bills and about their quarterback dilemma. Well,

2203
01:45:33,720 --> 01:45:36,120
Speaker 1: first of all, I still believe in this team. I

2204
01:45:36,240 --> 01:45:38,320
Speaker 1: know that this is overreaction Monday and everyone's pulling the

2205
01:45:38,360 --> 01:45:41,439
Speaker 1: record and it was a brutal, brutal loss. But there's

2206
01:45:41,520 --> 01:45:43,479
Speaker 1: no way in all I'm jumping ship on the team,

2207
01:45:43,760 --> 01:45:45,839
Speaker 1: the core and the coaching staff who made the playoffs

2208
01:45:45,880 --> 01:45:48,240
Speaker 1: after all those years, this is a playoff team. Now

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01:45:48,800 --> 01:45:51,360
Speaker 1: that being said, it's gonna get even harder for Bills

2210
01:45:51,400 --> 01:45:54,320
Speaker 1: fans who want Alan. If Sam Donald goes out tonight

2211
01:45:54,360 --> 01:45:56,360
Speaker 1: in his great can you imagine that if he goes

2212
01:45:56,439 --> 01:45:58,759
Speaker 1: out and he's slinging it around and he beats Detroit,

2213
01:45:58,880 --> 01:46:01,719
Speaker 1: he looks good, then the screams are gonna get even higher.

2214
01:46:02,000 --> 01:46:04,680
Speaker 1: I would ask you, guys, amongst your callers, of which

2215
01:46:04,680 --> 01:46:07,840
Speaker 1: I'm sure there are many, is it ninety percent start

2216
01:46:07,920 --> 01:46:11,120
Speaker 1: Josh Allen or ninety Yeah, we have a Twitter pole.

2217
01:46:11,200 --> 01:46:13,479
Speaker 1: Let me double check the last time the numbers. I'm

2218
01:46:13,520 --> 01:46:16,240
Speaker 1: interested in this for posterity. Yeah, Twitter pole. And it's

2219
01:46:16,280 --> 01:46:19,000
Speaker 1: pretty simple question because we don't know if Sean mcdermot's

2220
01:46:19,000 --> 01:46:21,360
Speaker 1: gonna address this at four o'clock when he meets the media.

2221
01:46:21,520 --> 01:46:23,799
Speaker 1: Who should start a quarterback for the Bills against the Chargers.

2222
01:46:23,840 --> 01:46:26,320
Speaker 1: On Twitter, We've got more than twenty two votes in

2223
01:46:26,640 --> 01:46:29,880
Speaker 1: eighty nine percent say Josh Emmen, eleven percent say Nathan Peterman.

2224
01:46:30,120 --> 01:46:31,880
Speaker 1: A right, so Peterman, is they gonna come back? All right?

2225
01:46:33,080 --> 01:46:34,880
Speaker 1: I would say this. I just did this long sermon

2226
01:46:34,960 --> 01:46:37,479
Speaker 1: about how rest these guys if you can, and you

2227
01:46:37,680 --> 01:46:40,760
Speaker 1: just have to nurture these young quarterbacks. It's gonna get

2228
01:46:40,800 --> 01:46:42,880
Speaker 1: really tough if this happens again. I mean, if if

2229
01:46:42,920 --> 01:46:46,439
Speaker 1: he announces Peterman. We know mcdernand loves Peterman, but I

2230
01:46:46,560 --> 01:46:49,000
Speaker 1: look at Peterman and we've all seen guys like this,

2231
01:46:49,080 --> 01:46:51,599
Speaker 1: ste if you probably played with them. There's guys who

2232
01:46:51,680 --> 01:46:54,720
Speaker 1: are just really good in practice, and they're really good

2233
01:46:54,760 --> 01:46:58,200
Speaker 1: in the preseason, and for whatever reason, the synapses don't

2234
01:46:58,240 --> 01:47:00,760
Speaker 1: fire on game day and they just don't make plays.

2235
01:47:01,080 --> 01:47:03,719
Speaker 1: Peter him was great in preseason, looks good in practice

2236
01:47:03,720 --> 01:47:05,840
Speaker 1: from everything I hear, But then you put him out there,

2237
01:47:05,880 --> 01:47:07,519
Speaker 1: you gotta make some plays, man. I mean, it's just

2238
01:47:07,800 --> 01:47:10,120
Speaker 1: we had two chances now and it's been abysmal. Right,

2239
01:47:10,240 --> 01:47:12,560
Speaker 1: And that's exactly the conversation we've all been having. We

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01:47:12,600 --> 01:47:15,200
Speaker 1: watched him in the preseason complete eighty percent of his passes,

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01:47:15,240 --> 01:47:17,960
Speaker 1: and it was it wasn't even the reverse. He couldn't

2242
01:47:17,960 --> 01:47:21,519
Speaker 1: even complete twenty percent of his passes against the Ravens,

2243
01:47:21,600 --> 01:47:25,240
Speaker 1: and and that's been the hallmark of his short career

2244
01:47:25,360 --> 01:47:28,479
Speaker 1: thus far. He does enough to earn a starting job

2245
01:47:28,600 --> 01:47:30,840
Speaker 1: or earn his way onto the field, but he quickly

2246
01:47:30,920 --> 01:47:32,680
Speaker 1: earns his way off of it as well, and that's

2247
01:47:32,760 --> 01:47:35,400
Speaker 1: that's been his issue. Kyle, what's the reason to not

2248
01:47:35,600 --> 01:47:37,760
Speaker 1: play Josh Allen in your mind? Why would you shy

2249
01:47:37,840 --> 01:47:40,600
Speaker 1: away from that if you were the Bills. It's a

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01:47:40,720 --> 01:47:42,560
Speaker 1: tough question. The reason would be is if you're in

2251
01:47:42,640 --> 01:47:44,599
Speaker 1: the team, you're you're in the meetings, you're in the practice,

2252
01:47:44,640 --> 01:47:46,719
Speaker 1: you just say, he's just not ready. He doesn't look ready.

2253
01:47:46,840 --> 01:47:49,400
Speaker 1: And the reason to not play him is so as

2254
01:47:49,439 --> 01:47:51,960
Speaker 1: to not traumatize him. I look at these guys you

2255
01:47:52,000 --> 01:47:54,960
Speaker 1: spend the high draft picks on. It's if you blow it,

2256
01:47:55,240 --> 01:47:58,280
Speaker 1: if you ruin it, you set yourself back years. I

2257
01:47:58,320 --> 01:48:00,280
Speaker 1: mean you really do. If you try to make Josh

2258
01:48:00,320 --> 01:48:02,080
Speaker 1: Allen work for two to three years and you scare

2259
01:48:02,160 --> 01:48:04,680
Speaker 1: him at the beginning, it really really messes you up.

2260
01:48:04,720 --> 01:48:07,479
Speaker 1: So I would say it's not sexy and it's not

2261
01:48:07,600 --> 01:48:09,800
Speaker 1: fun to talk about. But if you just say Josh Allen,

2262
01:48:09,800 --> 01:48:11,719
Speaker 1: will you look at him and you're men of football

2263
01:48:11,760 --> 01:48:13,360
Speaker 1: who have studied this game and say he's not there.

2264
01:48:13,680 --> 01:48:17,080
Speaker 1: There are a lot worse things than say, going five

2265
01:48:17,160 --> 01:48:19,200
Speaker 1: and eleven this year and then having Josh Allen come

2266
01:48:19,240 --> 01:48:21,600
Speaker 1: back next year and be sharp and ready and be

2267
01:48:21,720 --> 01:48:24,160
Speaker 1: more of a him. Mahome's born like he was yesterday.

2268
01:48:24,240 --> 01:48:27,800
Speaker 1: So it much more important than how the twenty eighteen

2269
01:48:27,840 --> 01:48:30,160
Speaker 1: season goes for these Bills, is how for the next

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01:48:30,200 --> 01:48:32,160
Speaker 1: five to six, seven, eight, nine, ten years go for

2271
01:48:32,280 --> 01:48:33,960
Speaker 1: Josh Allen because that's what they got in him. They

2272
01:48:34,040 --> 01:48:36,120
Speaker 1: need a guy for the next decade. And if he's

2273
01:48:36,160 --> 01:48:40,320
Speaker 1: not ready, you can't push him. Kyle Brandt from NFL

2274
01:48:40,400 --> 01:48:41,800
Speaker 1: Network got on the line with U. Kyle, tell me

2275
01:48:41,840 --> 01:48:45,479
Speaker 1: about the Kyle Brant Football Experience. It starts Friday at

2276
01:48:45,520 --> 01:48:47,640
Speaker 1: six pm on NFL Network. What kind of show is this?

2277
01:48:48,080 --> 01:48:49,960
Speaker 1: It's gonna be so fun, guys, you're gonna love it

2278
01:48:50,040 --> 01:48:51,960
Speaker 1: that the NFL has decided to put me in a

2279
01:48:52,360 --> 01:48:56,160
Speaker 1: control room with cameras, fifty different monitors, and five thousand

2280
01:48:56,240 --> 01:49:00,320
Speaker 1: buttons and mash buttons and talk highlights to nostalgia. I

2281
01:49:00,439 --> 01:49:02,400
Speaker 1: have every play and every player in the history of

2282
01:49:02,439 --> 01:49:05,120
Speaker 1: the NFL. So you tune out on Friday. By the way,

2283
01:49:05,120 --> 01:49:06,840
Speaker 1: it's Friday night. It's the greatest time of the week.

2284
01:49:06,960 --> 01:49:09,479
Speaker 1: Have some Thai food, have some Indian food, have a beer,

2285
01:49:09,560 --> 01:49:12,080
Speaker 1: watch some football. I could push the button and pull

2286
01:49:12,200 --> 01:49:14,560
Speaker 1: up Darryl Talley, I could pull up Travis Henry. I

2287
01:49:14,600 --> 01:49:16,719
Speaker 1: could puck up for Davous White. I could do Steve

2288
01:49:16,800 --> 01:49:20,320
Speaker 1: Tasker anything I want at anytime. We'll talk about, you know,

2289
01:49:20,400 --> 01:49:23,200
Speaker 1: the best highlights in week six, whatever it is. We'll

2290
01:49:23,200 --> 01:49:25,479
Speaker 1: also play the best highlights when you were six. It

2291
01:49:25,600 --> 01:49:27,960
Speaker 1: is nostalgia in its headlines. It is going to be

2292
01:49:28,080 --> 01:49:29,800
Speaker 1: so fun and so different. Man. I think you guys

2293
01:49:29,800 --> 01:49:33,320
Speaker 1: will love it every Friday at six, Every Friday six man,

2294
01:49:33,520 --> 01:49:35,800
Speaker 1: NFL Network sounds great. I gotta tell you, we also

2295
01:49:35,920 --> 01:49:38,360
Speaker 1: enjoy your work on Good Morning Football. And we were

2296
01:49:38,400 --> 01:49:39,800
Speaker 1: talking to one of your colleagues on the show a

2297
01:49:39,800 --> 01:49:41,880
Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago and telling them how that show.

2298
01:49:42,000 --> 01:49:43,479
Speaker 1: I mean, we got it out in our office Now

2299
01:49:43,560 --> 01:49:45,600
Speaker 1: every day, first thing in the morning. It's become like

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01:49:45,720 --> 01:49:48,120
Speaker 1: a regular part of the morning routine. I'm sure, not

2301
01:49:48,240 --> 01:49:50,240
Speaker 1: just in our office, but all over the league, all

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01:49:50,280 --> 01:49:52,559
Speaker 1: over NFL cities around the country. I would think Good

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01:49:52,560 --> 01:49:55,040
Speaker 1: Morning Football was working right we hope. So, guys, we

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01:49:55,120 --> 01:49:58,080
Speaker 1: discovered this crazy thing. We have this theory that football

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01:49:58,160 --> 01:50:01,759
Speaker 1: should be fun. It's okay, enjoy highlights and love the players,

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01:50:01,800 --> 01:50:03,560
Speaker 1: and not everything has to be an argument in a

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01:50:03,600 --> 01:50:07,040
Speaker 1: screaming match on TV. We get up every morning, play highlights,

2308
01:50:07,120 --> 01:50:09,479
Speaker 1: hype the players, hype the teams, build them up. It's

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01:50:09,520 --> 01:50:11,240
Speaker 1: exactly why I'm not coming out here and saying the

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01:50:11,280 --> 01:50:13,040
Speaker 1: Bills are screwed. I think their core is good enough,

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01:50:13,080 --> 01:50:14,519
Speaker 1: and their coaching staffs good enough, and I think they

2312
01:50:14,520 --> 01:50:16,439
Speaker 1: can turn this thing around. Hey, Kyle, thanks for this.

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01:50:16,560 --> 01:50:19,000
Speaker 1: We appreciate it. I want to come on guys anytime

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01:50:19,040 --> 01:50:21,280
Speaker 1: you want me. Kyle Brand NFL Network Coast. You can

2315
01:50:21,360 --> 01:50:23,679
Speaker 1: check them out on Good Morning Football on NFL Network

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01:50:24,040 --> 01:50:27,960
Speaker 1: starting Friday, six pm. The Kyle Brand Football Experience on

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01:50:28,160 --> 01:50:30,640
Speaker 1: NFL Network six p m. On Friday. Kyle joined us

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01:50:30,640 --> 01:50:33,800
Speaker 1: today on the Subway Fresh Dank Hotline, Subway Eat Fresh.

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01:50:34,000 --> 01:50:36,519
Speaker 1: He said, anytime, So, anytime there's a forty four to

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01:50:36,640 --> 01:50:39,439
Speaker 1: three game, we're gonna call him and have him. He's right,

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01:50:39,680 --> 01:50:41,479
Speaker 1: it is supposed to be fun. And there's a lot

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01:50:41,520 --> 01:50:45,240
Speaker 1: of nashing of teeth today and handwringing and and I

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01:50:45,360 --> 01:50:47,519
Speaker 1: get it. It was a terrible loss yesterday, but he's

2324
01:50:47,600 --> 01:50:49,960
Speaker 1: right and it will be fun again. I do believe that, Steve.

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01:50:50,000 --> 01:50:52,960
Speaker 1: I think yesterday was an aberration. I really do. For

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01:50:53,040 --> 01:50:54,960
Speaker 1: the Bills, they're not that bad and no, they're not

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01:50:55,040 --> 01:50:57,519
Speaker 1: that bad again this year. I can almost guarantee that

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01:50:57,640 --> 01:50:59,559
Speaker 1: you won't see a loss like that again. Hey. Yeah,

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01:50:59,640 --> 01:51:01,880
Speaker 1: and even if you know, if they don't win all

2330
01:51:01,920 --> 01:51:05,040
Speaker 1: the games they won last year, or when even fewer

2331
01:51:05,120 --> 01:51:06,960
Speaker 1: than you can imagine, it doesn't matter. There there's a

2332
01:51:07,000 --> 01:51:10,320
Speaker 1: lot of reasons for you and me, particularly because we

2333
01:51:10,439 --> 01:51:13,439
Speaker 1: watch these guys year in year out. There's a lot

2334
01:51:13,479 --> 01:51:15,800
Speaker 1: of young players I want to watch every week, whether

2335
01:51:15,880 --> 01:51:18,080
Speaker 1: they're whether they're winning or losing. I want to see

2336
01:51:18,439 --> 01:51:20,840
Speaker 1: Tremaine Edmunds, I want to see Harrison Phillips, and I

2337
01:51:20,960 --> 01:51:23,519
Speaker 1: want to see two. And then put this out there,

2338
01:51:23,760 --> 01:51:28,720
Speaker 1: whyat Teller, you know the guard from Virginia Tech that

2339
01:51:28,760 --> 01:51:31,679
Speaker 1: they brought in h This is offensive line that's looking

2340
01:51:31,760 --> 01:51:34,080
Speaker 1: for some guys to develop, and the Teller may get

2341
01:51:34,120 --> 01:51:37,920
Speaker 1: a chance to do that. There's you know, there's a

2342
01:51:38,000 --> 01:51:40,080
Speaker 1: lot of reasons why I'm interested in this, and it's

2343
01:51:40,120 --> 01:51:42,240
Speaker 1: not all about the wins and losses for me, Uh,

2344
01:51:42,360 --> 01:51:44,240
Speaker 1: it's better to win, no doubt about it. We all

2345
01:51:44,320 --> 01:51:48,439
Speaker 1: like it. But um, there's a lot about this season,

2346
01:51:48,479 --> 01:51:51,280
Speaker 1: and we talk about the economics of it, and I

2347
01:51:51,560 --> 01:51:53,880
Speaker 1: don't like saying, hey, this is all about next year

2348
01:51:53,920 --> 01:51:55,840
Speaker 1: because there's you know, fifty million and cap will be

2349
01:51:55,920 --> 01:51:57,560
Speaker 1: off the books. They're gonna have a fresh start with

2350
01:51:57,600 --> 01:51:59,600
Speaker 1: a cap, They're gonna have a lot of money to

2351
01:51:59,600 --> 01:52:01,599
Speaker 1: spending free agency. There, gonna have a lot of draft picks,

2352
01:52:01,600 --> 01:52:04,320
Speaker 1: and they got their quarterback ostensibly of the future. So

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01:52:04,439 --> 01:52:06,439
Speaker 1: there's it's a you know, I don't want to say

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01:52:06,560 --> 01:52:10,080
Speaker 1: this is all about next year because there's a lot

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01:52:10,120 --> 01:52:12,439
Speaker 1: about this year that I like, fifteen games left this year,

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01:52:12,479 --> 01:52:14,680
Speaker 1: I'm not certain page and I listen, I'm like, I'm

2357
01:52:14,720 --> 01:52:17,080
Speaker 1: looking forward to this next one, even after this last one.

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01:52:17,520 --> 01:52:20,800
Speaker 1: This one, next one has a lot of intrigue for me. Um,

2359
01:52:21,760 --> 01:52:23,880
Speaker 1: remember with it and it happened. I was on the

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01:52:24,120 --> 01:52:26,200
Speaker 1: we were talking to Kyle Branch just a minute ago,

2361
01:52:26,200 --> 01:52:28,400
Speaker 1: and we showed some highlight films of the Chiefs at

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01:52:28,439 --> 01:52:30,439
Speaker 1: the Charger game. Did you notice the stands at the

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01:52:30,560 --> 01:52:33,560
Speaker 1: Charger game? Well, Chiefs fans. It was Chiefs fans. It

2364
01:52:33,720 --> 01:52:36,160
Speaker 1: was like a home game. I mean, like you've never

2365
01:52:36,280 --> 01:52:37,680
Speaker 1: seen that was a little bit like that when the

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01:52:37,760 --> 01:52:40,320
Speaker 1: Bills played their left year, But not to that extent.

2367
01:52:40,760 --> 01:52:43,840
Speaker 1: Is that that can't be good. It's not. I will

2368
01:52:43,880 --> 01:52:45,840
Speaker 1: say this, it's a great place to watch a game.

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01:52:45,880 --> 01:52:48,640
Speaker 1: It's small, it's it's great sight lines. Oh it's like

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01:52:48,760 --> 01:52:51,000
Speaker 1: BMO Field up in Toronto. Yeah, it's small. It's a

2371
01:52:51,040 --> 01:52:52,800
Speaker 1: little soccer stadium. It's like when you go to a

2372
01:52:52,920 --> 01:52:54,439
Speaker 1: and you're not going to relate to this one. You

2373
01:52:54,520 --> 01:52:56,960
Speaker 1: go to a good minor league ballpark, baseball park. You

2374
01:52:57,040 --> 01:52:59,679
Speaker 1: know you're right there. Yeah, and there's not and there's yeah.

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01:53:00,120 --> 01:53:03,720
Speaker 1: And I get it too because twenty five thousand CEE

2376
01:53:03,720 --> 01:53:06,240
Speaker 1: stadiums of twenty five thousand Sea Stadium. But it is intimate.

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01:53:06,360 --> 01:53:08,360
Speaker 1: Yeah right, I like it. Yeah, I liked it there.

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01:53:09,000 --> 01:53:10,400
Speaker 1: And for what you do and for what I do,

2379
01:53:10,520 --> 01:53:14,880
Speaker 1: it's even better because it's there's less stuff to deal with,

2380
01:53:15,120 --> 01:53:17,479
Speaker 1: you know that getting up to the press box easier.

2381
01:53:17,600 --> 01:53:20,519
Speaker 1: I mean all that stuff that are logistically it's just great.

2382
01:53:21,479 --> 01:53:24,799
Speaker 1: But I am I was shocked when they panned across

2383
01:53:25,479 --> 01:53:28,720
Speaker 1: and for the people on the MSGAR watching now watch

2384
01:53:29,040 --> 01:53:31,280
Speaker 1: watch when Tyreek Hill does his little backflip in the

2385
01:53:31,320 --> 01:53:32,760
Speaker 1: back of the end zone and they on the ground

2386
01:53:32,880 --> 01:53:35,360
Speaker 1: look at the stands and all the red that is

2387
01:53:35,360 --> 01:53:39,280
Speaker 1: in the stands and usually that's blue Charger gear. It

2388
01:53:39,439 --> 01:53:42,840
Speaker 1: was all Chiefs fans. Yeah, every bit of it. Yeah,

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01:53:43,000 --> 01:53:45,000
Speaker 1: it was pretty amazing. All right to break here, we're

2390
01:53:45,040 --> 01:53:47,479
Speaker 1: back with more. We're gonna do some more from the

2391
01:53:47,520 --> 01:53:49,800
Speaker 1: tweet sheet. We'll take some more phone calls. I want

2392
01:53:49,840 --> 01:53:51,599
Speaker 1: to hear from you. Who would you start a quarterback

2393
01:53:51,840 --> 01:53:54,439
Speaker 1: Sunday against the LA Chargers? Um? What else? We got

2394
01:53:54,560 --> 01:53:56,439
Speaker 1: NFL true and false? A lot of stuff to do,

2395
01:53:56,600 --> 01:53:58,800
Speaker 1: so come on back. One Bills Live presented by a

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01:53:58,880 --> 01:54:01,439
Speaker 1: lot of health from One Bill's Drive. This is Buffalo

2397
01:54:01,520 --> 01:54:15,920
Speaker 1: Bills Radio one's live time. Or if you see Tasker

2398
01:54:16,000 --> 01:54:18,800
Speaker 1: here till three o'clock, which is about thirty minutes away.

2399
01:54:18,880 --> 01:54:21,360
Speaker 1: Thanks for tuning in. You can ring us up eight

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01:54:21,439 --> 01:54:23,880
Speaker 1: oh three five fifty toll free one eight eight eight

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01:54:24,000 --> 01:54:26,800
Speaker 1: five fifty two five fifty. Take your thoughts on the

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01:54:27,240 --> 01:54:29,280
Speaker 1: yesterday's game. Would take your thoughts on who they should

2403
01:54:29,280 --> 01:54:31,600
Speaker 1: start a quarterback? Here's the deal. Sean McDermott meets with

2404
01:54:31,640 --> 01:54:35,440
Speaker 1: the media at four. The coordinators, Leslie Frazier on the

2405
01:54:35,480 --> 01:54:38,200
Speaker 1: defensive side, Brian Dayble on the offensive side, and meet

2406
01:54:38,240 --> 01:54:40,120
Speaker 1: with the media around four thirty or so. Go to

2407
01:54:40,160 --> 01:54:42,200
Speaker 1: Buffalo bills dot com for updates on what they have

2408
01:54:42,280 --> 01:54:44,520
Speaker 1: to say, including the quarterback question. I don't know if

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01:54:44,560 --> 01:54:47,560
Speaker 1: Sean's going to address it today. I mean, I heard

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01:54:47,640 --> 01:54:51,720
Speaker 1: like people kind of ridiculing him because of his postgame

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01:54:51,720 --> 01:54:54,000
Speaker 1: comments yesterday. I'm gonna look at the video. Of course

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01:54:54,000 --> 01:54:55,720
Speaker 1: he's gonna look at the video. You don't make a

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01:54:55,800 --> 01:54:58,400
Speaker 1: decision like that, and minutes after that game ends, you

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01:54:58,400 --> 01:55:01,040
Speaker 1: don't make a quarterback decision there. Plus it's even though

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01:55:01,080 --> 01:55:02,840
Speaker 1: he's got the final say on who the quarterback is

2416
01:55:02,880 --> 01:55:05,080
Speaker 1: going to be, you don't make that without talking to

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01:55:05,240 --> 01:55:08,640
Speaker 1: your offensive coordinator, your quarterback coach, and the quarterback at

2418
01:55:08,680 --> 01:55:10,720
Speaker 1: both quarterbacks that you know, there's a lot of things

2419
01:55:10,800 --> 01:55:13,280
Speaker 1: that you have to touch base with and rightfully so

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01:55:13,440 --> 01:55:16,920
Speaker 1: appropriately so before you do something like that. And I

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01:55:17,000 --> 01:55:20,000
Speaker 1: get people being angry about yesterday. It was maddening to

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01:55:20,000 --> 01:55:21,960
Speaker 1: see him plead that poor frustrated And I get how

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01:55:22,000 --> 01:55:26,120
Speaker 1: frustrated and upset people get, but don't expect the professionals

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01:55:26,160 --> 01:55:28,560
Speaker 1: that work to share that to make decisions based on

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01:55:28,640 --> 01:55:31,240
Speaker 1: their frustration or their anger. You don't want him doing that.

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01:55:31,320 --> 01:55:33,400
Speaker 1: You don't want him walking in there and saying, well,

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01:55:33,720 --> 01:55:35,800
Speaker 1: that's said, I'm not playing him anymore. I'm gonna play

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01:55:35,880 --> 01:55:38,240
Speaker 1: him before he looks at video. I did. People today

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01:55:38,280 --> 01:55:41,160
Speaker 1: were like news people mostly, you'd be honest with you.

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01:55:41,360 --> 01:55:43,520
Speaker 1: Oh you gotta look at the video. Yeah, he does

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01:55:43,600 --> 01:55:46,040
Speaker 1: have to look at the video, right, you do. Players

2432
01:55:46,080 --> 01:55:48,240
Speaker 1: are looking at video today. We get We get a

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01:55:48,360 --> 01:55:50,800
Speaker 1: lot in Buffalo because things haven't been on the upswing

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01:55:50,880 --> 01:55:53,080
Speaker 1: here in Buffalo for a long time and until last year,

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01:55:53,120 --> 01:55:55,240
Speaker 1: and even so last year was kind of a carryover.

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01:55:55,320 --> 01:55:58,840
Speaker 1: But they and we do it too because listen, we're

2437
01:55:58,880 --> 01:56:03,080
Speaker 1: sitting here almost in the building doing the doing the broadcast.

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01:56:03,200 --> 01:56:06,240
Speaker 1: We are in the building doing the broadcast, and and

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01:56:07,640 --> 01:56:10,720
Speaker 1: we're as we're as no closer to it than the

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01:56:10,800 --> 01:56:13,360
Speaker 1: guy that's rights for whatever publication you can name, or

2441
01:56:13,400 --> 01:56:18,120
Speaker 1: whatever website or whatever blog or um you know, podcast

2442
01:56:18,240 --> 01:56:20,640
Speaker 1: you can name. We're closer to it than anybody or

2443
01:56:20,720 --> 01:56:25,000
Speaker 1: as close to it as anybody. And we I mean,

2444
01:56:25,760 --> 01:56:28,800
Speaker 1: it drives me crazy when they go back, typically after

2445
01:56:28,840 --> 01:56:30,840
Speaker 1: a game yesterday, and I get it. Why you do it,

2446
01:56:30,840 --> 01:56:32,880
Speaker 1: because you're frustrated, but they go back in time and

2447
01:56:32,920 --> 01:56:38,320
Speaker 1: start nitpicking trades in the past and the draft pick

2448
01:56:38,440 --> 01:56:40,600
Speaker 1: and the philosophy, and they all of a sudden they

2449
01:56:40,640 --> 01:56:43,920
Speaker 1: call into question everything that the team's ever done in

2450
01:56:44,000 --> 01:56:45,880
Speaker 1: the lead up to this, like they and they look

2451
01:56:45,960 --> 01:56:48,800
Speaker 1: like they forget how every decision was made and the

2452
01:56:48,880 --> 01:56:51,840
Speaker 1: reasons why every decision was made and the limitations placed

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01:56:51,880 --> 01:56:55,640
Speaker 1: on the organization by past coaching staffs and last general

2454
01:56:55,720 --> 01:56:59,960
Speaker 1: managers and injuries and retirements, and they forget about all

2455
01:57:00,000 --> 01:57:02,640
Speaker 1: all the limitations, and they'd say, why didn't you go

2456
01:57:02,720 --> 01:57:06,200
Speaker 1: out and why didn't you draft Khalil mac number five? Overall?

2457
01:57:06,520 --> 01:57:08,520
Speaker 1: You know, it's like what you know? I mean, that's

2458
01:57:08,560 --> 01:57:10,360
Speaker 1: basically what they're saying. They go back, and why didn't

2459
01:57:10,360 --> 01:57:13,280
Speaker 1: you draft Aaron Rodgers? You know, why didn't you draft

2460
01:57:13,760 --> 01:57:20,360
Speaker 1: any of its? Like listen, they're they're doing things the

2461
01:57:20,440 --> 01:57:22,520
Speaker 1: way they know they think should be done. It's gonna

2462
01:57:22,640 --> 01:57:25,000
Speaker 1: be there's gonna be some painful moments. There's painful moments

2463
01:57:25,000 --> 01:57:27,520
Speaker 1: in everything, and this is one of them, no question

2464
01:57:27,560 --> 01:57:29,440
Speaker 1: about it. But that doesn't mean they're not on the

2465
01:57:29,520 --> 01:57:32,400
Speaker 1: right track. I mean, certainly the result yesterday was not

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01:57:32,560 --> 01:57:34,680
Speaker 1: indicative of where they want to go. It was awful.

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01:57:34,760 --> 01:57:37,160
Speaker 1: It was awful. Let's take a call from Joe and Buffalo.

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Speaker 1: Good afternoon, Joe, welcome to the show. Yeah, hi guys,

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01:57:40,120 --> 01:57:42,960
Speaker 1: thanks for having me. Sure, um, I just wanted to

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01:57:43,000 --> 01:57:45,560
Speaker 1: come in a few things I know Kyle stated a

2471
01:57:45,680 --> 01:57:48,200
Speaker 1: few different things touch up about in the quarterback situation

2472
01:57:48,360 --> 01:57:50,600
Speaker 1: is that I know you had to sit behind a

2473
01:57:50,840 --> 01:57:53,560
Speaker 1: better quarterback you should learn from like Aaron Rodgers did

2474
01:57:53,880 --> 01:57:56,200
Speaker 1: oh with bread Fire. But when you don't have anything

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01:57:56,400 --> 01:57:59,560
Speaker 1: or have anybody is skilled and veteran as him as

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01:57:59,600 --> 01:58:02,240
Speaker 1: far with, you would think you'd want to put in

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01:58:02,240 --> 01:58:04,200
Speaker 1: Allen a little sooner as well. The other thing I

2478
01:58:04,240 --> 01:58:07,400
Speaker 1: had to comment about is that when you look at Peterman,

2479
01:58:07,400 --> 01:58:08,960
Speaker 1: because I have DBR and as painful it is, I

2480
01:58:09,000 --> 01:58:10,720
Speaker 1: look back on the place, no matter how bad he

2481
01:58:10,760 --> 01:58:12,720
Speaker 1: got Bonne out, and look at it from the very

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01:58:12,800 --> 01:58:16,520
Speaker 1: first play, Peterman looked shaky under center, look a little uneasy,

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01:58:16,640 --> 01:58:18,920
Speaker 1: looked like it was confident. And then as soon as

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01:58:19,480 --> 01:58:21,720
Speaker 1: Allen came in, regardless of the time the third quarter,

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01:58:21,880 --> 01:58:23,440
Speaker 1: he looked like it was poised and ready to go.

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01:58:23,600 --> 01:58:25,720
Speaker 1: And if if McCoy got the ball right there, he

2487
01:58:25,760 --> 01:58:27,520
Speaker 1: would have scored a touchdown, and that would even look

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01:58:27,560 --> 01:58:29,840
Speaker 1: better for him on his bond, his behalf. And the

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01:58:29,960 --> 01:58:32,040
Speaker 1: third thing is, and I'll hang up and listen. What

2490
01:58:32,120 --> 01:58:35,400
Speaker 1: you guys gotta say is going into this game week two,

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01:58:35,440 --> 01:58:38,040
Speaker 1: I think they should and will start him, especially being

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01:58:38,080 --> 01:58:41,040
Speaker 1: that's another traumatizing thing against the Chargers that Peterman had,

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01:58:41,280 --> 01:58:43,480
Speaker 1: And I just believe they should start Allen. And you

2494
01:58:43,560 --> 01:58:45,520
Speaker 1: gotta take your lumps, and he's not gonna get battled out,

2495
01:58:45,600 --> 01:58:47,560
Speaker 1: bruise out where he's now We're gonna play again. I

2496
01:58:47,640 --> 01:58:49,760
Speaker 1: mean a lot of people say you gotta take your lumps.

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01:58:49,840 --> 01:58:52,360
Speaker 1: I'll hang up in the Yarkay. Thanks. I'm your second

2498
01:58:52,400 --> 01:58:54,720
Speaker 1: point there. I will say this, Joe, I don't think

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01:58:56,240 --> 01:58:59,640
Speaker 1: what happened Peterman's performance against the Chargers last November, I

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01:58:59,680 --> 01:59:01,680
Speaker 1: don't think will be a factor at all in the

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01:59:01,760 --> 01:59:04,800
Speaker 1: quarterback decision this week. It was awful against the Chargers,

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01:59:04,880 --> 01:59:07,240
Speaker 1: but it was awful yesterday too. In fact, it was

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01:59:07,320 --> 01:59:10,240
Speaker 1: worse yesterday. But I don't think that goes into the

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01:59:10,320 --> 01:59:12,680
Speaker 1: consideration of their quarterback choice this week, do you No,

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01:59:12,920 --> 01:59:14,920
Speaker 1: Not at all, not at all. I mean that it's

2506
01:59:14,920 --> 01:59:17,520
Speaker 1: all about the here and now and all the stuff

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01:59:17,520 --> 01:59:20,440
Speaker 1: that has happened since since that time. And I think too,

2508
01:59:20,520 --> 01:59:22,560
Speaker 1: it's about it's about the club in the in the

2509
01:59:22,640 --> 01:59:24,680
Speaker 1: locker room. It's about, you know, the coaching staff having

2510
01:59:24,920 --> 01:59:26,480
Speaker 1: the pulse of the locker room, going in and saying, hey,

2511
01:59:26,520 --> 01:59:29,680
Speaker 1: listen to you guys. You know what's the belief in

2512
01:59:29,720 --> 01:59:31,880
Speaker 1: the locker room amongst the players. What do they see

2513
01:59:32,080 --> 01:59:33,920
Speaker 1: because they know and they know how they feel, and

2514
01:59:34,160 --> 01:59:36,080
Speaker 1: I think that's important to this coaching staff. I don't

2515
01:59:36,080 --> 01:59:38,720
Speaker 1: think Sean McDermott wants to undercut the players wishes about

2516
01:59:38,720 --> 01:59:41,320
Speaker 1: who they think they gives them the best chance to

2517
01:59:41,400 --> 01:59:44,680
Speaker 1: win by starting the other guy for whatever reason. Now

2518
01:59:44,720 --> 01:59:46,400
Speaker 1: there may be a discussion about it. He may go

2519
01:59:46,520 --> 01:59:49,280
Speaker 1: and take to the leadership group or whatever, the core

2520
01:59:49,320 --> 01:59:52,480
Speaker 1: of the captains whoever he speaks to, and they'll have

2521
01:59:52,520 --> 01:59:56,680
Speaker 1: a conversation about it, no question about it. Particularly after

2522
01:59:56,800 --> 01:59:59,480
Speaker 1: they watched this film. They see how Josh Allen played

2523
01:59:59,480 --> 02:00:01,280
Speaker 1: and I get it too. Joe, you called in and

2524
02:00:01,320 --> 02:00:03,680
Speaker 1: he said, listen, Peterman looked shaky under center right from

2525
02:00:03,680 --> 02:00:07,400
Speaker 1: the get go. Josh Allen looked better under center. Listen.

2526
02:00:07,480 --> 02:00:09,840
Speaker 1: A lot of that comes from the fact that listen,

2527
02:00:09,960 --> 02:00:11,160
Speaker 1: Josh Allen is just going to go out there and

2528
02:00:11,240 --> 02:00:13,760
Speaker 1: sling it and play. He was under no pressure to

2529
02:00:13,840 --> 02:00:15,640
Speaker 1: make it look good. He was under no pressure to

2530
02:00:15,880 --> 02:00:18,360
Speaker 1: score forty points and win that game. He just came

2531
02:00:18,400 --> 02:00:20,800
Speaker 1: out and started slinging around. That's a much different mindset

2532
02:00:21,200 --> 02:00:23,560
Speaker 1: than spending an entire week going into a game plan

2533
02:00:23,600 --> 02:00:25,520
Speaker 1: and then getting under center for the first time, looking

2534
02:00:25,600 --> 02:00:27,760
Speaker 1: up across the line and all of a sudden not

2535
02:00:27,840 --> 02:00:30,960
Speaker 1: recognizing the defense. So that puts you in a different

2536
02:00:31,000 --> 02:00:34,000
Speaker 1: mindset to playing. And Josh Allen never got near that yesterday.

2537
02:00:34,080 --> 02:00:36,120
Speaker 1: Thanks very much for your call. Let's go to Scott

2538
02:00:36,640 --> 02:00:42,440
Speaker 1: in Rochester. Scott, Hey, how's it going, guys? I wanted

2539
02:00:42,440 --> 02:00:49,160
Speaker 1: to touch bass basically on the quarterback conversation, I agree

2540
02:00:49,160 --> 02:00:51,480
Speaker 1: with the last caller. I think Peterman looked a little

2541
02:00:51,520 --> 02:00:56,320
Speaker 1: shaky yesterday a little bit. I think when Josh came out,

2542
02:00:56,480 --> 02:01:00,200
Speaker 1: you know, he was slinging it. You know, he did

2543
02:01:00,320 --> 02:01:03,080
Speaker 1: look a little more pleased to me. Um, I was

2544
02:01:03,400 --> 02:01:06,280
Speaker 1: glad to see that. Okay, there's no three an ounce

2545
02:01:06,440 --> 02:01:09,240
Speaker 1: right now. You know, we're moving the ball, we're moving

2546
02:01:09,280 --> 02:01:12,800
Speaker 1: the sticks. Um. You know. It definitely gave a different

2547
02:01:12,880 --> 02:01:16,040
Speaker 1: look from my point of view on the field. Um.

2548
02:01:16,360 --> 02:01:19,000
Speaker 1: The only other thing that was really killing me was

2549
02:01:19,080 --> 02:01:22,960
Speaker 1: the front four. Um. That's that's your bread and butter

2550
02:01:23,120 --> 02:01:25,680
Speaker 1: right there. You know. I mean for any quarterback that

2551
02:01:25,760 --> 02:01:27,960
Speaker 1: you're going to have in there, if they don't got

2552
02:01:28,040 --> 02:01:32,120
Speaker 1: time to go through those checkdowns or or make that

2553
02:01:32,280 --> 02:01:36,040
Speaker 1: one step to open up the pass, it's just going

2554
02:01:36,120 --> 02:01:39,520
Speaker 1: to be hard. And then the penalties. You know, Shady

2555
02:01:39,600 --> 02:01:41,800
Speaker 1: got the ball, he got a couple positive yards, and

2556
02:01:41,840 --> 02:01:44,480
Speaker 1: then I see him taken away by a by a

2557
02:01:44,600 --> 02:01:47,680
Speaker 1: flag and it's like, you know, these guys on the line,

2558
02:01:47,720 --> 02:01:50,160
Speaker 1: they're they're they're gonna have to step up. They got

2559
02:01:50,280 --> 02:01:51,840
Speaker 1: to came, they got to be prepared, they got to

2560
02:01:51,880 --> 02:01:54,840
Speaker 1: watch question. But I will say, Steve, I don't know

2561
02:01:54,920 --> 02:01:57,880
Speaker 1: that you talked about the energy level, which I you know,

2562
02:01:58,040 --> 02:02:02,760
Speaker 1: I'll give you that. The energy level wouldn't when Josh

2563
02:02:02,840 --> 02:02:06,360
Speaker 1: came in and played quarterback, But there wasn't an appreciable

2564
02:02:06,360 --> 02:02:08,480
Speaker 1: amount of improvement on what they were doing offensive either.

2565
02:02:08,760 --> 02:02:10,880
Speaker 1: His first series was three and out, Josh Allens, you know,

2566
02:02:10,960 --> 02:02:12,560
Speaker 1: and he had I think a couple of three and

2567
02:02:12,600 --> 02:02:15,440
Speaker 1: outs series on offense for the Bills. And I don't know,

2568
02:02:15,560 --> 02:02:17,880
Speaker 1: I mean, I do think he provides I think Josh

2569
02:02:17,960 --> 02:02:20,879
Speaker 1: Allen provides more of a threat to move the football

2570
02:02:20,920 --> 02:02:23,640
Speaker 1: with his arm strength and his his live arm. And

2571
02:02:23,920 --> 02:02:25,800
Speaker 1: there are downsides of Josh too, when we saw some

2572
02:02:25,880 --> 02:02:28,680
Speaker 1: of those downside yesterday. But to say that it was

2573
02:02:28,720 --> 02:02:31,200
Speaker 1: a dramatic turnaround when Josh Allen got in the game yesterday,

2574
02:02:31,240 --> 02:02:33,880
Speaker 1: I think is overstating it. It was not. It was not.

2575
02:02:34,080 --> 02:02:36,640
Speaker 1: They gott yeah. No, they got a field goal out

2576
02:02:36,640 --> 02:02:38,480
Speaker 1: of it, and he ran for a few first downs

2577
02:02:38,520 --> 02:02:42,960
Speaker 1: and did some good stuff. But mostly the consistently consistent

2578
02:02:43,000 --> 02:02:45,000
Speaker 1: way they got first downs was Josh Allen running it

2579
02:02:45,000 --> 02:02:47,120
Speaker 1: and he's not throwing it. He made a couple of

2580
02:02:47,200 --> 02:02:49,080
Speaker 1: good throws, no doubt about it. In fact, Rich Gannon

2581
02:02:49,160 --> 02:02:51,560
Speaker 1: commented on a few of them as well. But basically,

2582
02:02:51,600 --> 02:02:54,080
Speaker 1: when you put Josh Allen in that situation, that's all

2583
02:02:54,120 --> 02:02:56,880
Speaker 1: you're wanting him to do. Just stay on the field,

2584
02:02:56,960 --> 02:02:58,800
Speaker 1: try and turn out some first downs, try and make

2585
02:02:58,840 --> 02:03:00,680
Speaker 1: some good throws, and see you can go through your

2586
02:03:00,680 --> 02:03:02,760
Speaker 1: progression once or twice. And he did once or twice.

2587
02:03:02,920 --> 02:03:04,839
Speaker 1: You know, I said to Kelso on the radio broadcast

2588
02:03:04,880 --> 02:03:06,640
Speaker 1: when Josh was in there doing some good things and

2589
02:03:06,800 --> 02:03:08,960
Speaker 1: some other things that weren't quite good. I said, this

2590
02:03:09,120 --> 02:03:12,880
Speaker 1: is essentially another preseason trial for Josh Ellen because the

2591
02:03:12,960 --> 02:03:16,920
Speaker 1: game is decided. You know, their backups sprinkled through both

2592
02:03:17,040 --> 02:03:19,960
Speaker 1: rosters really late, you know, third quarter and into the fourth.

2593
02:03:20,240 --> 02:03:22,480
Speaker 1: But I thought, this is good experience for Josh Allen.

2594
02:03:22,560 --> 02:03:25,240
Speaker 1: This is really good game time playing experience for him.

2595
02:03:25,320 --> 02:03:27,760
Speaker 1: I looked at it almost as like an extra preseason

2596
02:03:27,840 --> 02:03:30,200
Speaker 1: appearance for Josh Ellen. Yet, yeah, I think so, And

2597
02:03:30,240 --> 02:03:31,960
Speaker 1: that's I think when he came in, that's probably what

2598
02:03:32,080 --> 02:03:34,040
Speaker 1: the thought was, just you got to get him some work.

2599
02:03:34,040 --> 02:03:38,320
Speaker 1: Plus they got to do something other than than put

2600
02:03:38,360 --> 02:03:41,480
Speaker 1: Peterman back out there. I mean, and the both callers

2601
02:03:41,600 --> 02:03:44,160
Speaker 1: they said, you know, Peterman looked shaky under center. Listen,

2602
02:03:44,240 --> 02:03:46,680
Speaker 1: he looked shaky more than shaky for a lot of

2603
02:03:46,760 --> 02:03:49,400
Speaker 1: that game. It was not as a good performance at all.

2604
02:03:49,480 --> 02:03:52,320
Speaker 1: And it was. And it's the frustrating thing is it's

2605
02:03:52,400 --> 02:03:55,200
Speaker 1: not the quarterback that we saw play and have seen

2606
02:03:55,320 --> 02:03:58,280
Speaker 1: play throughout the preseason, the OTAs and even in the

2607
02:03:58,360 --> 02:04:02,280
Speaker 1: games they played. Peter looked like a different guy when

2608
02:04:02,360 --> 02:04:04,520
Speaker 1: he got in there against Baltimore. And that's that's the

2609
02:04:04,640 --> 02:04:07,640
Speaker 1: troubling thing about this whole scenario is that Nathan Peterman,

2610
02:04:07,680 --> 02:04:09,440
Speaker 1: who earned the right to go out there and start,

2611
02:04:10,960 --> 02:04:16,120
Speaker 1: looked uncomfortable. Look it looked like it was all different

2612
02:04:16,200 --> 02:04:18,720
Speaker 1: to him. And that's that's the thing that's like that

2613
02:04:18,920 --> 02:04:21,440
Speaker 1: that makes you shake your head. From the tweet sheet

2614
02:04:21,480 --> 02:04:24,920
Speaker 1: More on quarterbacks from Chris Pete Bacon Nathan Peterman did

2615
02:04:24,960 --> 02:04:27,720
Speaker 1: not win the starting job by outperforming the competition for

2616
02:04:27,920 --> 02:04:30,920
Speaker 1: one week. He should not lose the starting job by

2617
02:04:31,080 --> 02:04:34,280
Speaker 1: underperforming for one week. Either. The team is a whole

2618
02:04:34,320 --> 02:04:38,080
Speaker 1: played bad. I don't know about that, because those games

2619
02:04:38,120 --> 02:04:40,800
Speaker 1: that he won the job, it didn't count. They were

2620
02:04:40,840 --> 02:04:42,560
Speaker 1: playing those games, they didn't count. You got to give

2621
02:04:42,560 --> 02:04:45,040
Speaker 1: yourself the best chance to win. Now you these games

2622
02:04:45,120 --> 02:04:49,120
Speaker 1: count and you can't. They count for a way more

2623
02:04:49,160 --> 02:04:53,480
Speaker 1: than a preseason game against whoever you name, whether it's

2624
02:04:53,480 --> 02:04:55,440
Speaker 1: a one to twos or threes, whether you're taking reps

2625
02:04:55,440 --> 02:04:57,120
Speaker 1: with the ones, whether you're taking reps with the twos,

2626
02:04:57,160 --> 02:04:58,480
Speaker 1: whether you were mopping up at the end of a

2627
02:04:58,520 --> 02:05:01,880
Speaker 1: preseason game, is the fourth one doesn't matter. These games count,

2628
02:05:02,480 --> 02:05:05,800
Speaker 1: and you got to play well. And if it is

2629
02:05:05,840 --> 02:05:08,200
Speaker 1: indeed a meritocracy and where you earn your way on

2630
02:05:08,280 --> 02:05:10,920
Speaker 1: the field, you got to keep your job and Nathan

2631
02:05:10,960 --> 02:05:15,720
Speaker 1: Peterman didn't do that to me. He played really poorly,

2632
02:05:15,760 --> 02:05:18,920
Speaker 1: in fact, surprisingly poorly for me because of what we'd seen.

2633
02:05:19,200 --> 02:05:21,360
Speaker 1: Now we've all seen him play in those other games

2634
02:05:21,480 --> 02:05:23,840
Speaker 1: last year, and then we've talked about it, you know,

2635
02:05:24,040 --> 02:05:26,960
Speaker 1: at to no end. But we saw him since then

2636
02:05:27,600 --> 02:05:31,400
Speaker 1: play well enough in practice in the OTAs to earn

2637
02:05:31,480 --> 02:05:33,760
Speaker 1: their right to get back on the field. And then

2638
02:05:33,840 --> 02:05:36,000
Speaker 1: once he did do that, he thought, Wow, what a story.

2639
02:05:36,040 --> 02:05:38,400
Speaker 1: This guy's gonna make something happen. And then he goes

2640
02:05:38,440 --> 02:05:40,120
Speaker 1: out and it turns exactly the way it did in

2641
02:05:40,160 --> 02:05:43,600
Speaker 1: those last two starts. And that's the thing that's what

2642
02:05:43,760 --> 02:05:46,280
Speaker 1: gets you, makes you crazy if you're not over your coach,

2643
02:05:46,360 --> 02:05:49,000
Speaker 1: but probably Nate Peterman too. Here's a call from John

2644
02:05:49,120 --> 02:05:51,160
Speaker 1: in Oakland. Hello, John, go ahead, you're on the air.

2645
02:05:51,960 --> 02:05:54,320
Speaker 1: Hey John, how you doing, Scheff Shooter? How are you doing?

2646
02:05:55,400 --> 02:05:57,800
Speaker 1: Not too bad? Man? You know, I know it's a

2647
02:05:57,880 --> 02:06:02,320
Speaker 1: tough game for Buffalo. Ian's no lost, but I tell you, well, man,

2648
02:06:02,360 --> 02:06:06,320
Speaker 1: you want to get shocked. Tune in tonight's game football.

2649
02:06:06,520 --> 02:06:09,360
Speaker 1: Why what are we gonna see? P seventy nights Pittsburgh

2650
02:06:10,680 --> 02:06:17,200
Speaker 1: man and a rushing attack that's real. Stout okay, going

2651
02:06:17,280 --> 02:06:23,480
Speaker 1: over the top, Okay, thanks, um, let's do NFL truer.

2652
02:06:23,480 --> 02:06:25,160
Speaker 1: I didn't understand what he was. I think that. I

2653
02:06:25,200 --> 02:06:27,600
Speaker 1: think there was a guy doing his best John Gruden imitation.

2654
02:06:27,800 --> 02:06:32,800
Speaker 1: Oh gotcha, wasn't that good? Wasn't that good? Sorry? John that?

2655
02:06:32,960 --> 02:06:40,120
Speaker 1: I'm sorry? Work on it. We're again the attempting. Yeah,

2656
02:06:40,240 --> 02:06:42,280
Speaker 1: I like that, Thank you? How could I not? I

2657
02:06:42,400 --> 02:06:44,080
Speaker 1: was listening to him and I said, where's he going with?

2658
02:06:44,560 --> 02:06:47,160
Speaker 1: I didn't get it until Jake Jay Harris tipped me off.

2659
02:06:47,200 --> 02:06:48,880
Speaker 1: It's like it's John Gruden. I was like, it ain't

2660
02:06:48,960 --> 02:06:52,200
Speaker 1: John Gruden. No NFL True or false. Brought to you

2661
02:06:52,280 --> 02:06:55,960
Speaker 1: by Yancey's Fancy New York's Artists and Cheese Steve. Aaron

2662
02:06:56,080 --> 02:06:59,040
Speaker 1: Rodgers last night. Not my favorite player in the league, really,

2663
02:06:59,120 --> 02:07:01,600
Speaker 1: not even in the top ten, but that was amazing.

2664
02:07:01,680 --> 02:07:04,480
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers had this all time memorable moment last night

2665
02:07:04,480 --> 02:07:06,680
Speaker 1: against the Bears. He's had a lot of good ones,

2666
02:07:07,160 --> 02:07:10,440
Speaker 1: it's his most memorable recent moment. Aaron Rodgers with his comeback,

2667
02:07:10,600 --> 02:07:12,920
Speaker 1: leaving on the back of a cart, coming back out

2668
02:07:13,040 --> 02:07:16,120
Speaker 1: ready to go in the second half. He got worse

2669
02:07:16,360 --> 02:07:18,280
Speaker 1: as the game progressed in the second half. I thought

2670
02:07:18,280 --> 02:07:20,680
Speaker 1: you could see him limping even more. They did a

2671
02:07:20,760 --> 02:07:24,240
Speaker 1: great job, Collinsworth and Al Michaels on NBC talking about

2672
02:07:24,520 --> 02:07:27,040
Speaker 1: and with the use of the replays and the close ups.

2673
02:07:27,280 --> 02:07:29,640
Speaker 1: He could not even plant his left foot. He couldn't

2674
02:07:29,640 --> 02:07:31,960
Speaker 1: turn on it. Somebody said, imagine trying to swing a

2675
02:07:31,960 --> 02:07:34,200
Speaker 1: golf club if you couldn't plant your left leg, swinging

2676
02:07:34,200 --> 02:07:36,200
Speaker 1: a golf club right handed. He didn't have the use

2677
02:07:36,240 --> 02:07:38,160
Speaker 1: of his left leg. He was kind of jumping around

2678
02:07:38,200 --> 02:07:40,600
Speaker 1: trying to save it. And yet he brought him back,

2679
02:07:40,800 --> 02:07:42,760
Speaker 1: you know, a twenty point deficit, he brought him back

2680
02:07:42,800 --> 02:07:46,120
Speaker 1: to win. I'm going true. Just I'm telling you, I

2681
02:07:46,280 --> 02:07:48,600
Speaker 1: was fed up with the NFL after the Bills game yesterday.

2682
02:07:48,680 --> 02:07:50,680
Speaker 1: Came home, watcha game, and I went to bed at

2683
02:07:50,920 --> 02:07:52,560
Speaker 1: eleven thirty and ended. I didn't I want to go

2684
02:07:52,640 --> 02:07:54,680
Speaker 1: to bed around two hours before that. But that game

2685
02:07:54,760 --> 02:07:58,000
Speaker 1: was compelling. Rodgers was compelling, Khalil Mack was compelling in

2686
02:07:58,120 --> 02:08:00,600
Speaker 1: that game. That was a great game last night, Yes, true,

2687
02:08:00,960 --> 02:08:03,320
Speaker 1: all time memorable moment. Well, the guys won a Super Bowl,

2688
02:08:03,320 --> 02:08:04,760
Speaker 1: so I don't know about that. I mean, this was

2689
02:08:05,000 --> 02:08:08,000
Speaker 1: a great game as a night game, a standalone Sunday

2690
02:08:08,120 --> 02:08:12,080
Speaker 1: night football game, and he was the difference in the game,

2691
02:08:12,200 --> 02:08:14,840
Speaker 1: no question about it. But the guys won a Super Bowl.

2692
02:08:14,880 --> 02:08:17,240
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say barely. It isn't

2693
02:08:17,280 --> 02:08:19,200
Speaker 1: the top two or three, no question about it, And

2694
02:08:19,320 --> 02:08:22,440
Speaker 1: certainly in recent years, that is the moment over the

2695
02:08:22,480 --> 02:08:24,680
Speaker 1: past five or six, maybe even ten years of his crowd.

2696
02:08:25,640 --> 02:08:30,080
Speaker 1: Yeah maybe, Yeah, it's close and it's up there, but

2697
02:08:30,080 --> 02:08:33,000
Speaker 1: I would say winning the Super Bowls probably a bigger

2698
02:08:33,080 --> 02:08:36,120
Speaker 1: moment for him. NFL True or false presented by Yancy's fancy.

2699
02:08:36,120 --> 02:08:38,480
Speaker 1: How about this one? The Cleveland Browns set up for

2700
02:08:38,520 --> 02:08:41,520
Speaker 1: a tie against Pittsburgh City. We talked about this in

2701
02:08:41,640 --> 02:08:45,520
Speaker 1: the preseason bud Light ready with free beer in these

2702
02:08:45,680 --> 02:08:49,240
Speaker 1: locked up coolers and bars all over Cleveland. When the

2703
02:08:49,280 --> 02:08:51,280
Speaker 1: Browns finally win a game, they're gonna unlock him and

2704
02:08:51,320 --> 02:08:53,360
Speaker 1: give away free beer. So it didn't happen last night.

2705
02:08:54,880 --> 02:08:57,160
Speaker 1: Browns did not lose for the first time since Christmas

2706
02:08:57,200 --> 02:09:00,600
Speaker 1: Eve twenty sixteen. They tied, of course, but they did

2707
02:09:00,680 --> 02:09:04,200
Speaker 1: not open the bud Light Uh coolers, but Light sent

2708
02:09:04,280 --> 02:09:07,680
Speaker 1: out of tweet Cleveland, you fought hard. Unfortunately, the Browns

2709
02:09:07,800 --> 02:09:11,320
Speaker 1: victory fridge only opens with a W. But after that,

2710
02:09:11,440 --> 02:09:14,080
Speaker 1: we doubt they'll stay locked for long. Beer drinkers are

2711
02:09:14,120 --> 02:09:19,040
Speaker 1: real losers and Browns Steelers tie. Yeah, true, true, it's true.

2712
02:09:19,200 --> 02:09:21,840
Speaker 1: It's funny too. It is l you know, it's it's

2713
02:09:21,880 --> 02:09:24,280
Speaker 1: a it's an amazing story when you think about it.

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Speaker 1: Hugh jack there, they're one thirty one and one under

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Speaker 1: Hugh Jackson. One thirty one and one. That is just

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Speaker 1: the cherry on the cake of the Browns last two years.

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Speaker 1: And listen, we've seen it. We saw him in the preseason.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna be a competitive football team this year. That

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Speaker 1: you saw it yesterday where they're competitive, got the ground out,

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02:09:44,680 --> 02:09:46,920
Speaker 1: six turnovers from the Steelers, and it's a game they

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02:09:46,960 --> 02:09:50,320
Speaker 1: should have won. Their offense is struggling still, but you know,

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Speaker 1: it's a team that's going to be competitive, and sooner

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02:09:52,800 --> 02:09:54,640
Speaker 1: or later, the Browns are gonna win more than their share.

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02:09:54,960 --> 02:09:57,160
Speaker 1: They're gonna win a few more than a handful of

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Speaker 1: games this year. They're good. That felt true or false?

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Speaker 1: We talked about this a little bit with Cayl Brandt.

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Speaker 1: Ryan Fitzpatrick his amazing game four touchdown passes, one touchdown run,

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02:10:07,360 --> 02:10:12,480
Speaker 1: True or false? Fitzpatrick makes Jamis Winston's job security disappear. True,

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02:10:13,200 --> 02:10:15,240
Speaker 1: and he's done it before. He does it every stop

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Speaker 1: in the NFL. He does it. You think you're a

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02:10:17,800 --> 02:10:20,040
Speaker 1: secure Oh we got this nice little backup guy's played

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02:10:20,040 --> 02:10:23,200
Speaker 1: a little bit. Eventually Ryan Fitzpatrick takes over. I don't

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02:10:23,200 --> 02:10:24,520
Speaker 1: know what it is. I don't know how it happens,

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02:10:24,600 --> 02:10:28,160
Speaker 1: but it always happens. And that game yesterday, he's probably

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02:10:28,200 --> 02:10:30,120
Speaker 1: their best option at quarterback. I would think. I've seen

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Speaker 1: Winston play, he's probably their better option. Yeah, it wouldn't be.

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Speaker 1: It's not like he would do this in New Orleans

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02:10:35,800 --> 02:10:39,440
Speaker 1: and Drew Drew Brees' job security would disappear. We're talking

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02:10:39,480 --> 02:10:43,080
Speaker 1: about Jamis Winston. He of the suspension, he have all

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02:10:43,120 --> 02:10:45,480
Speaker 1: the issues off the field, he have all you know,

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02:10:45,600 --> 02:10:47,560
Speaker 1: he's the guy that's got a little bit of baggage

2742
02:10:47,600 --> 02:10:51,520
Speaker 1: with him. So yeah, I mean, I've heard rumblings that

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02:10:51,640 --> 02:10:54,040
Speaker 1: John Gruden had a chance to go to Tampa Bay

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02:10:54,120 --> 02:10:57,680
Speaker 1: and or Oakland, and he chose Oakland because he could

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02:10:57,680 --> 02:10:59,520
Speaker 1: win with Derek Carr. He didn't think he could win

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02:10:59,600 --> 02:11:03,040
Speaker 1: with James Winston. So Jamis Winston still has a lot

2747
02:11:03,080 --> 02:11:05,920
Speaker 1: of question marks about him and his ability to quarterback

2748
02:11:06,000 --> 02:11:09,360
Speaker 1: that team. So yeah, I think it's true. Ryan Fitzpatrick

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02:11:10,600 --> 02:11:14,400
Speaker 1: is the biggest threat to his job security. NFL True

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Speaker 1: or False brought to you by Yancey's Fancy New York's

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Speaker 1: artist and Gee Steve and I backed with more One

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Speaker 1: Bill's Live from One Bill's Drive and this is Buffalo

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Speaker 1: in spite of yesterday, Fred Jackson joined us will be

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Speaker 1: with us every Monday for the rest of the regular season.

2759
02:11:50,800 --> 02:11:53,320
Speaker 1: Former Bills running back Fred Jackson. We asked him from

2760
02:11:53,400 --> 02:11:56,520
Speaker 1: his standpoint, what was wrong with the Bills rushing attack yesterday.

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Speaker 1: Here's what he said. You know what, it just looked

2762
02:12:00,640 --> 02:12:02,640
Speaker 1: like it was a struggle all around, you know, And

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Speaker 1: one of the things I think that that really stood

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02:12:05,520 --> 02:12:08,120
Speaker 1: out to me is Baltimore is playing a lot of

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02:12:08,160 --> 02:12:10,640
Speaker 1: men and men and second the box and whenever you

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02:12:10,760 --> 02:12:14,000
Speaker 1: see that, you have to have a receiver that takes

2767
02:12:14,080 --> 02:12:17,200
Speaker 1: that personally and goes out and make plays in one

2768
02:12:17,240 --> 02:12:19,920
Speaker 1: on one coverage. And when you do that, it's definitely

2769
02:12:19,960 --> 02:12:21,960
Speaker 1: gonna pull the safety out of the box. And you know,

2770
02:12:22,080 --> 02:12:24,160
Speaker 1: make those guys respect the passing game. And when you

2771
02:12:24,280 --> 02:12:28,000
Speaker 1: do that and not be one dimensional like a Rgas today,

2772
02:12:28,640 --> 02:12:30,600
Speaker 1: it's gonna make a tough lad to do anything. And

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Speaker 1: like I said, Baltimore executed their game plan to to

2774
02:12:34,760 --> 02:12:37,200
Speaker 1: the best of their abilities yesterday. You know, lining those

2775
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Speaker 1: guys up man and man and putting safeties in the box.

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Speaker 1: That contanga. There you go. That's what have we learned

2777
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Speaker 1: from today's show. John Murphy, Steve Tasker, We're back at

2778
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Speaker 1: tomorrow and a good show in the works for tomorrow.

2779
02:12:47,840 --> 02:12:50,879
Speaker 1: Steve Peter Kington will join us tomorrow from Pro Football

2780
02:12:50,960 --> 02:12:56,640
Speaker 1: Talk NBC Sports. He's a regular Tuesday visitor and special

2781
02:12:56,720 --> 02:12:59,160
Speaker 1: guests where You're happy to announce that Stevie Johnson's gonna

2782
02:12:59,160 --> 02:13:00,720
Speaker 1: be our guest on the show to we having had

2783
02:13:00,800 --> 02:13:02,080
Speaker 1: him out on the show since we've been doing it

2784
02:13:02,160 --> 02:13:04,160
Speaker 1: since He love Buffalo. He's going to be the leader

2785
02:13:04,200 --> 02:13:07,480
Speaker 1: of the Charge on Sunday for the home opener. Stevie

2786
02:13:07,720 --> 02:13:10,280
Speaker 1: will join us tomorrow. We'll catch up with him he's

2787
02:13:10,360 --> 02:13:12,600
Speaker 1: delightful to talk to. It's the only receiver in Bill's

2788
02:13:12,600 --> 02:13:15,200
Speaker 1: history to have three thousand yards seasons in a row. Yeah, yeah,

2789
02:13:15,240 --> 02:13:17,360
Speaker 1: so he's pretty consistent while he was here. He's a hoot.

2790
02:13:17,400 --> 02:13:19,720
Speaker 1: He's still like full to tal our Twitter pull today

2791
02:13:19,800 --> 02:13:21,880
Speaker 1: dealt with quarterbacks and maybe we get word from Sean

2792
02:13:21,960 --> 02:13:24,080
Speaker 1: McDermott later today. But what do you think they'll do?

2793
02:13:24,320 --> 02:13:26,800
Speaker 1: Most of you on Twitter with a couple of thousand votes,

2794
02:13:26,840 --> 02:13:29,240
Speaker 1: two or three thousand votes, like eighty nine percent of

2795
02:13:29,280 --> 02:13:32,000
Speaker 1: you said they're gonna go with Josh Allen. We'll see,

2796
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Speaker 1: Hopefully we'll know more tomorrow. Production assistants George Blast, Jeff

2797
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Speaker 1: Coltnick Thomas, Honalder, Kelly Rude, JJ Turino, Kevin Cargis, James Roebel.

2798
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Speaker 1: Our producer Jay Harris will see tomorrow at twelve noon

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