Speaker 1: All right, welcome to episode one seven of the Bobby Cast,
Speaker 1: which this one was. It's kind of special to me
Speaker 1: because I didn't really know this is gonna happen until
Speaker 1: I was talking to Sasha and I was like, you
Speaker 1: guys gotta come up and we'll just we'll go get
Speaker 1: some food. But you guys to come do what I
Speaker 1: do for a second. So I'm glad you guys are
Speaker 1: here at Sasha right here. Yeah, I will say this
Speaker 1: that I liked you guys separately before I even knew
Speaker 1: you guys were married. When did you know we were married?
Speaker 1: I don't remember. So I didn't know Sasha for a bit. Uh.
Speaker 1: And I knew you because when we first started training
Speaker 1: here in Nashville on my season, you were also in
Speaker 1: Nashville with John, and so when I was with Sharna,
Speaker 1: you would go, we're training like down the road, and
Speaker 1: so that's where you and I met. I remember coming
Speaker 1: in and and and walk in and being like, oh
Speaker 1: my gosh, this guy, like I love the whole he
Speaker 1: was rest like. I was like, you're wearing red. I
Speaker 1: was like that's your thing and you're like, yeah, it
Speaker 1: kind of is. And And also I knew that we
Speaker 1: had bond because we both like kind of like bigger cars.
Speaker 1: Like I've got a chief, you have a monster jeep. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I want to make it bigger. Honestly, I love
Speaker 1: that cheap You were saying that when we were because
Speaker 1: I did a bit of the Dancing with the Stars
Speaker 1: Live tour and You're like, I missed my truck, missed
Speaker 1: my big truck more than anything. What what is your jeep?
Speaker 1: It is a Sahara Wrangler and it's kind of like
Speaker 1: the sub It's like I haven't taken off roading, which
Speaker 1: is a complete sin because I put like these big
Speaker 1: wheels on it. It's got I'm going to get a
Speaker 1: roof rat, but I raised it. It's got a like
Speaker 1: a mean grill on the front. It looks like and
Speaker 1: I wanted people to think that is an angry man
Speaker 1: who owns that car. And then this sort of Mary
Speaker 1: Poppins type English person just like comes out and I'm
Speaker 1: quite positive so you'd fit right in the catch of
Speaker 1: music or with that big jeep. Yeah, you drive the
Speaker 1: Nashville and just be like what I'm like looking around
Speaker 1: all these like Ford huge trucks and like GMCs, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, this is heaven. Um you. Yeah, we were
Speaker 1: in Nashville together and I remember you being so and
Speaker 1: I was still out of my fish out of water
Speaker 1: completely right. The dancing still am by the way, even
Speaker 1: like six of my later still am. But yeah, you're
Speaker 1: always so nice and so I got to know you
Speaker 1: a little bit through that, and then Sasha was how's
Speaker 1: the go to man? Yeah? You were. I would like
Speaker 1: be like, hey, dude, what do I do? And because
Speaker 1: you were working were with Mary Lou and you'd be
Speaker 1: training because you guys training the same building in l
Speaker 1: A that we do. And then I was like, dang,
Speaker 1: they're freaking married. How how appropriate is that? I feel
Speaker 1: like that's when we bonded the first time. When you
Speaker 1: found out that M's and I were married. We had
Speaker 1: we had our little traditional catering chats, didn't we Yeah,
Speaker 1: And it was well, I like, Emma, and if you're married,
Speaker 1: and I must like you Like sure, that's really what
Speaker 1: it is. I based a lot of my at least
Speaker 1: early on relationships on if I have a good recommendation. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, it's like a Netflix show. People are like
Speaker 1: Netflix shows to me. Now, if someone recommends it and
Speaker 1: they know my sensibilities. I'm much more able to go, okay,
Speaker 1: let the guard down a little bit because someone's vouching.
Speaker 1: So I'm glad you guys are here. It's really cool
Speaker 1: for me to finally in my world. I know, I
Speaker 1: know this is what you do. I'm finally good at
Speaker 1: something good. God, you're the champion. I did win, and yeah,
Speaker 1: but I think I wont by just band aiding it
Speaker 1: together all the time. No, I don't think you band
Speaker 1: aided it. I think that you Like when I watched
Speaker 1: you because I was in in week ten. I think
Speaker 1: it was you had a salsa and it was going
Speaker 1: down for real and I was one of the girls
Speaker 1: in that, and I watched you and also your finale,
Speaker 1: your your freestyle. I watched you become you like you
Speaker 1: really turned it on for the show, like you really
Speaker 1: you kind of it's almost like you told yourself right.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I know it, but guess what,
Speaker 1: I'm going to give it and you just kind of
Speaker 1: like geared yourself up and you did. We actually watched
Speaker 1: that last night. It wasn't it. You watched it. I
Speaker 1: don't haven't watched it. I haven't watched it back. I
Speaker 1: can't watch it all the way back. It's good actually,
Speaker 1: like a little clicks of it, and you know, praise
Speaker 1: to Sharna for putting it together. But I have just
Speaker 1: struggle with watching me because I just see the little
Speaker 1: things that I do wrong every time that I don't
Speaker 1: think nor people would see because I wouldn't see it
Speaker 1: before that. But um, yeah, I won. I mean, you Skippy.
Speaker 1: I don't even come to talk about me here, but
Speaker 1: you have Skippy. It was cool. It's really one of
Speaker 1: the coolest things that I've accomplished. And you know, I'm
Speaker 1: not some pretty cool stuff, but I think that to
Speaker 1: me more than it being a TV show was like
Speaker 1: for the sake of I had no idea what I
Speaker 1: was doing right, and as a team. When I was
Speaker 1: able to figure out my team, because Sean is way
Speaker 1: different than I am, we had to figure out compatibility issues.
Speaker 1: And then I had to figure out how to actually
Speaker 1: learn how to dance good enough to be good at
Speaker 1: what I do as well, because I couldn't just go
Speaker 1: want to be an idiot. I had to at least
Speaker 1: look like I was caring and trying to get better. Yeah, exactly,
Speaker 1: And then are you were? You were getting better every week? Okay,
Speaker 1: well enough about me. I didn't. I didn't. I talked
Speaker 1: about me for five hours a day, every day, all
Speaker 1: the time. I'm so over me at this point. So, um,
Speaker 1: you guys are on the tour right now, the Live tour,
Speaker 1: and you've been out since like before Christmas. Huh it
Speaker 1: was December fift and then this is our longest tour,
Speaker 1: so we don't finish until much ninth and nuts in Cali,
Speaker 1: and you stay on the road, which is weird because
Speaker 1: tours here, like in in country music, they go out Thursday, Friday,
Speaker 1: Saturday and they come home. Oh really, I didn't know that.
Speaker 1: Even when I tour, we go out Friday Saturdays and
Speaker 1: then we come back home. We're getting chipped on the road.
Speaker 1: We get one day off, but we do kind of
Speaker 1: like five six shows and then a day off. Six shows,
Speaker 1: day off, And I mean, I'm not complaining. This is
Speaker 1: actually I've done every single tour that they've done, and
Speaker 1: I will do because I kind of love living out
Speaker 1: of a suitcase. I love I love exploring. I love that.
Speaker 1: You know, that's why we love camping. We've never gone
Speaker 1: camping exactly. He thinks you're like camping. We love the
Speaker 1: great outdoors. Yeah it's awesome, but yeah it's this one's
Speaker 1: a really really long tour. I'm curious about you guys backstories,
Speaker 1: because as we were spending time together, it was always like, hey,
Speaker 1: how do I just got to go for advice all
Speaker 1: the time. We never really sat down and like, I'm
Speaker 1: curious about And I'll start with you. Emma. You grew
Speaker 1: up in England, right, so when did you start dancing?
Speaker 1: So I grew up in Birmingham and I always had
Speaker 1: like a lot of energy. I first started. I've got
Speaker 1: a twin as well. We first started going to like
Speaker 1: ballet when we were five. But I just had so
Speaker 1: much energy that I just wanted to bounce off the walls.
Speaker 1: And I found the teacher was like really strict, so
Speaker 1: quit that it was kind of like whatever. Just you know,
Speaker 1: little girls go to ballet. Did your parents dance well
Speaker 1: or they just put you in dance because it was
Speaker 1: something No they I mean her mom thinks she can dance, right, well,
Speaker 1: my mom, cat, what are you saying, Sash? My mom
Speaker 1: can dance, but she's a their forensic detective, so they
Speaker 1: not hold on your Your mom is a forensic detective
Speaker 1: and my dad, and so they like solve what kind
Speaker 1: of crimes they serve. Well, my dad he's moved into
Speaker 1: sort of the professor teaching stage now, but when he
Speaker 1: was doing forensic detectives way back then, Um, he used
Speaker 1: to solve some pretty like homicide, some really serial killer
Speaker 1: type things. He used to fly everywhere to teach how
Speaker 1: to teach these countries how to like get to the
Speaker 1: English standard of forensic crime solving. It was amazing. The
Speaker 1: question like her phone calls, like with her mom, just
Speaker 1: casually I'd be like, yeah, I don't know if I'm
Speaker 1: allowed to say this on the podcast, but basically, like
Speaker 1: sometimes my mom will be like, oh, hi, how are
Speaker 1: you doing. Oh gosh, I just got back from a
Speaker 1: triple homicide. You know, please be safe. You know this
Speaker 1: person it's like, and she would like be on roofs
Speaker 1: trying to fingerprint for like the point of entry and stuff.
Speaker 1: She just cut like she'd bust a marijuana factory and
Speaker 1: she'd come I remember being in school once and coming
Speaker 1: home and she smelt of weed and she was and
Speaker 1: I ran down the stairs to give her a hug,
Speaker 1: and she was like, ever, don't touch me. I stink
Speaker 1: of marijuana. And then she's walked off and it was
Speaker 1: and I remember thinking that is such a surreal thing
Speaker 1: for a mother to say. But anyway, does that decenteritie
Speaker 1: you to what all the shows, like all the crime
Speaker 1: docuseries is now where it's like Ted Bundy or because
Speaker 1: you've seen a lot of this and heard a lot
Speaker 1: of it in your real life. Okay, it doesn't desensitize me,
Speaker 1: but I have a real piqued interest. But I think
Speaker 1: everybody does. But I really did like case study a
Speaker 1: lot of serial killers when I was younger, which sounds
Speaker 1: pretty creepy, but I kind of think that a lot
Speaker 1: of people do that. So like Ted Bundy, the Boston Strangler,
Speaker 1: like all of these ed Geane who was like really
Speaker 1: really the biggest one edge I don't know who that is,
Speaker 1: so they based like Psycho off of him. He was
Speaker 1: kind of a cannibal as well. I believe from where right,
Speaker 1: um isn't I can't realise the States? How can we
Speaker 1: have a name like a crazy name? Ed He was
Speaker 1: like he had a really like weird relationship with his mom. Um. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he blood of Philadelphia. Philadelphia there there it is. And
Speaker 1: so he killed a bunch of people. He killed a
Speaker 1: bunch of people and would keep their heads in jars
Speaker 1: like he kept the bodies. How do I know this? Dude?
Speaker 1: He was the base sins of a lot of a
Speaker 1: lot of movies, like a loads I think, I'm pretty
Speaker 1: sure Psycho. I can't quite remember that one, but a
Speaker 1: load of movies. Maybe even Um Silence and the Lambs,
Speaker 1: I think something like that. Did you watch the Ted
Speaker 1: Money on Netflix? I didn't. I started it, but I
Speaker 1: didn't watch the whole way through. And you know about
Speaker 1: him already. You know he escaped jail twice. I did
Speaker 1: know that. And he's from Utah too. So Whitney, who's
Speaker 1: from Utah, was really freaked out she watched the documentary.
Speaker 1: She was like, oh, so your parents are freaking uh
Speaker 1: DNA detective. What's the official title? I don't want to mask. Well.
Speaker 1: In England they called SOCCOS, which has scenes of crime officer,
Speaker 1: but over here it's forensic. Did you worry that your
Speaker 1: parents were there investigating bad guys that bad guys would
Speaker 1: like try to come at them? Do you know? I
Speaker 1: actually didn't worry about that when I was a kid,
Speaker 1: but I do worry about it now with my mom
Speaker 1: because she does nights, and so she goes out to
Speaker 1: all these burglary scenes and um and fingerprints, and sometimes
Speaker 1: she's on her own just with her kid, and so
Speaker 1: she she doesn't like to show the fact she's in
Speaker 1: the police because they're in dodgy areas. So, you know,
Speaker 1: I worry about her wild and her dad's like leam
Speaker 1: Neeson taken. You know, if if anything was going to happen,
Speaker 1: he was he knows what to do. I don't know
Speaker 1: if he'd be as successful as she. And so, okay,
Speaker 1: you have two parents. By the way, let me ask
Speaker 1: one more question right there. Yeah, did they ever watch
Speaker 1: these shows and be like, that's not really how it works?
Speaker 1: Because that friends in the military that will watch military shows,
Speaker 1: be like, that's not really how it works. They watched
Speaker 1: these shows and that's not really My dad would scream
Speaker 1: at the TV and be like, the see this contamination everywhere.
Speaker 1: They haven't even they haven't even put up a bloody tent,
Speaker 1: he said. And he always used to tell me he
Speaker 1: fills me with all this information. But he always used
Speaker 1: to tell me the first thing you do is literally
Speaker 1: get everyone away from the scene and take photographs. They
Speaker 1: put these little ballistics cards down like where they see
Speaker 1: a shell or where they numbers, and they would take
Speaker 1: photographs and measurements of dimensions if it's a pretty serious crime,
Speaker 1: you know, and then they put a pretent to preserve
Speaker 1: it all. And then they go in with their you
Speaker 1: know you see them with the sometimes blue, sometimes white,
Speaker 1: big overrules of the onesies. They go and with the
Speaker 1: and they like put lead dust on and their fingerprint
Speaker 1: and then peel it off and all kinds. Wow. And
Speaker 1: so you never wanted to do there, No, no, Actually
Speaker 1: I wanted to be an actress. So the story of
Speaker 1: me getting into dances like, I always wanted to be
Speaker 1: an actress. I knew that I was. I wouldn't say creative,
Speaker 1: but I knew that I was. I wanted to perform.
Speaker 1: That was it performed was like everything, and um, I
Speaker 1: wanted to be an actress. So I went into like
Speaker 1: a local acting like school, just on the weekends, like
Speaker 1: my family is not well off at all. Um. And
Speaker 1: then I started dancing and it went from being a
Speaker 1: hobby to like competing two then serious competing and then
Speaker 1: by the time I was fourteen, I remember being really
Speaker 1: like upset one day because I am quite analytical, and
Speaker 1: I had to tell myself, right, I need to pick one.
Speaker 1: Which one am I going to file? Am I gonna do?
Speaker 1: I want to try to be an actress. I don't
Speaker 1: want to be a dance And the dance was so
Speaker 1: much more um you know, I was. I was doing
Speaker 1: compete and it was something I had to give up
Speaker 1: that I I went into acting, Sorry, I went into dancing.
Speaker 1: And I think that what most attracted me to that
Speaker 1: was you could be and you could pretend to be
Speaker 1: I was being an actress while being a dancer. You
Speaker 1: could pretend to be things, and do things and and
Speaker 1: interact with people while dancing. So it was kind of
Speaker 1: like a place where it was a relief for me.
Speaker 1: So the dancing took off and by the time I
Speaker 1: was sixteen, because in England you can you can come
Speaker 1: out of high school at sixteen, and I wanted to
Speaker 1: do college, maybe psychology if the dancing wasn't going well.
Speaker 1: But it kind of was. So I were you elite,
Speaker 1: so elite that people were like, oh, there's a future
Speaker 1: with her with the dancing. Yeah, like a future where
Speaker 1: you can get paid and live a life because a
Speaker 1: difference in being a good dancer and then being someone
Speaker 1: that actually support yourself off of dance, yes, total and this,
Speaker 1: and it makes me sad because there are so many incredible,
Speaker 1: like insane dancers way better than me that I watched
Speaker 1: on on Instagram and YouTube and all that, and and
Speaker 1: I know personally that that can't make it to a
Speaker 1: point where they can make a living off of dancing
Speaker 1: because there's so few jobs and especially in the boyman
Speaker 1: Latin world does really only strictly come dancing in England
Speaker 1: or Dancing of the Stars in America and those franchises
Speaker 1: throughout the world. Um. And and that was it. And
Speaker 1: there was a show called Burned the Floor and so
Speaker 1: I went into theater. I m how did that happen? Oh? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I got a show that toward England for two years
Speaker 1: and then I went and did MoMA me in the
Speaker 1: movie with Meryl Streep. That that movie with Juan Pablo
Speaker 1: really that? Yeah? I knew Juan Pablo when I was
Speaker 1: eighteen and Quan probably on the show you know with
Speaker 1: Cheryl um so We. When I saw him on the show,
Speaker 1: I was like, I freaking know you you were you
Speaker 1: were in Mama Mere, What did you do? Mom? I
Speaker 1: was hend hen so there was like twenty Hen's not
Speaker 1: like chickens, like we were Hen girls, like hen party girls.
Speaker 1: And and so I was the youngest cast member on
Speaker 1: the on the movie, I think, apart from some little kids. Um,
Speaker 1: and there was twenty of us girls and twenty of
Speaker 1: US guys. And we were like the singers and the
Speaker 1: dancers and the actors in the background like kind of
Speaker 1: like her friends Amanda's say for its friends. And then
Speaker 1: I did UM and then like four or five West
Speaker 1: End shows the day dancing, and then I got into
Speaker 1: Burn the Floor which is where I met Sash and
Speaker 1: Burn the Floor is Dancing with Stars, but England, right,
Speaker 1: No Burn the that's strictly come down. So Burn the
Speaker 1: Floor is it is a Broadway show. That didn't I
Speaker 1: know that. That's why I know it. Then Shannah did,
Speaker 1: Peter did, Sasha did, Kim Johnson did so many of
Speaker 1: the Dancing with the Stars cast did Burn the Floor.
Speaker 1: It's not a reality show, that's actually a production, like
Speaker 1: a Broadway production, no dialogue. So you do that, and
Speaker 1: how does that transition from that to being on Dancing
Speaker 1: with the Stars. They see you and go like it's
Speaker 1: like Suturain in Live where they got in recruit away. Well,
Speaker 1: no kind of they did do that, but they came
Speaker 1: and saw Sasha before I was even on burn the Floor.
Speaker 1: They came and saw Sasha and um and so they
Speaker 1: knew they like certain people. And then cut to two
Speaker 1: years later. We've both been on burn the Floor. We
Speaker 1: were together at this point, but we've only been together
Speaker 1: for like two months. We were in South Africa. It
Speaker 1: was all like new and fun and still fun now, baby,
Speaker 1: I promise, but so so. Dancing with the Stars contacted
Speaker 1: Sasha and says, look, we we remember you. Your auditioned
Speaker 1: for us two years ago, whatnot. We want you to
Speaker 1: come and be on this this new we're extending the cast.
Speaker 1: We want you to come and be on there. And
Speaker 1: I was so excited for him, and he was, you know, ecstatic.
Speaker 1: But at that time I thought, well, oh, this means
Speaker 1: that we're probably going to be over. We've only been
Speaker 1: together for two months. You know, I can't expect him.
Speaker 1: He's going to go and live in Los Angeles. I'm
Speaker 1: going to stay on the tour. Um, you know, I
Speaker 1: can't really expect him to stay with me. And then
Speaker 1: he went and he hacked onto my Facebook, which he
Speaker 1: will deny, and he denied, and he requested to be
Speaker 1: my boyfriend. And you can't even deny this. I remember
Speaker 1: where we were standing and and so I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: this is awesome. So I a second that I could um.
Speaker 1: He went over to l A and I quit. I
Speaker 1: in a nice way. I told him, akay, I'm going
Speaker 1: to leave the tour, that I was on the burn
Speaker 1: the floor, and I went over to visit him, And
Speaker 1: to be honest, at that point in my life, I
Speaker 1: don't really care. I cared about work. I definitely was
Speaker 1: very direct, career driven, but to me, I had this
Speaker 1: overwhelming feeling I always knew I was going to be
Speaker 1: okay no matter what I did. I was like a cat.
Speaker 1: I always thought I'm going to land on my feet,
Speaker 1: and so I wasn't really nervous about quitting, even though
Speaker 1: I really had no intentions of even being on dance
Speaker 1: with stuff. They didn't even know who I was. I'd
Speaker 1: never met them or anything. So I got to l A,
Speaker 1: and my wonderful husband here boyfriend at the time, had
Speaker 1: arranged meetings with me and the producers, and he was sweet,
Speaker 1: and so I went and did that, and then we
Speaker 1: went back after that season, we went back to US
Speaker 1: earlyer to surgery. He had surgery, hernia surgery, and we
Speaker 1: stayed at your parents house and um, and it was
Speaker 1: I knew he was this the guy for me for sure,
Speaker 1: and then they called me up. But I mean, it
Speaker 1: was it was. It was kind of interesting because we
Speaker 1: were kind of basing everything, Like she left burned the floor.
Speaker 1: We were at home and we're waiting for the next season.
Speaker 1: We were kind of thinking, okay, so what's going to
Speaker 1: happen if like one of us doesn't get it all,
Speaker 1: Like we were just going to play it by you.
Speaker 1: And then I got a call in the morning, really
Speaker 1: early in the morning and they're like, Sasha, um, I
Speaker 1: would like to have you back. This is great, blah
Speaker 1: blah blah. And then they call and they go but
Speaker 1: unfortunately there's no room for ever. And we were like, oh,
Speaker 1: that's okay, and and was the sweetest person there is
Speaker 1: and she was like, no, no, no, it's okay. Please
Speaker 1: don't stress about it. This is to the producers. I'm
Speaker 1: totally fine. I had a great audition, it was great.
Speaker 1: I enjoyed being in l A. I'll be with Sasha.
Speaker 1: So then when she put the phone down. We put
Speaker 1: the phone down, We kind of had like a few
Speaker 1: seconds of science and we kind of went, this is
Speaker 1: going to be great. You can come to l A.
Speaker 1: And then um, literally, like I think it was like
Speaker 1: maybe two days later, they called back and they go, actually, um,
Speaker 1: we're gonna have you. We're going to have you on
Speaker 1: the show. So then she had to remember that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I remember. It was one of those moments where it
Speaker 1: was like so surreal because we planned to both go
Speaker 1: there together and then all of a sudden, not not
Speaker 1: shadowed dreams, but then something happened that we weren't planning for,
Speaker 1: and then two days later it was just like the
Speaker 1: best news ever, and we went got our visas straightaway.
Speaker 1: You've got yours before mine, even yeah I got to
Speaker 1: I got my visa before yours. But I remember we
Speaker 1: had like less than maybe two days to get on
Speaker 1: the plane and go over there. And then I also
Speaker 1: was running out of pages in my passport, so I
Speaker 1: freaked out that it wasn't gonna let me in. But
Speaker 1: it worked out then. I mean, the best part was
Speaker 1: you know, going to l A together this time it
Speaker 1: wasn't just me and finding a place to live in
Speaker 1: buying our first car. It was a Volkswagen Golf guys
Speaker 1: with with a hole in the driver's seats, so when
Speaker 1: it rained, it just flattered the hole inside this car,
Speaker 1: I was like, I really like golf, so like I
Speaker 1: really like Volkswagen Golf. So I remember like them being
Speaker 1: quite fast in England. But that was only because I
Speaker 1: was sixteen and I was looking at my friends with
Speaker 1: Volkswagen Golf, and so we found it on Craigslist, bought
Speaker 1: it and it would be for sixty seconds every time
Speaker 1: because it wasn't it was in a car crash, so
Speaker 1: the door thought that the door was open, so once
Speaker 1: you get in for about a minute, the beeping noise
Speaker 1: of the door open would just be like beep beep.
Speaker 1: So when we took took her for a test driver,
Speaker 1: I remember the woman had her music on last, so
Speaker 1: you want to hear the exactly, so like, don't worry,
Speaker 1: it goes away quick. So sually when you talk is
Speaker 1: funny to me because you have our Strogan accent, right,
Speaker 1: But you were born in Russia, correctus, But you were
Speaker 1: one of because there are a lot of Russian Ukrainian
Speaker 1: dancers that were around dances and all this was new
Speaker 1: to me. All the touching and all the foreign it
Speaker 1: was all new to me. Come back to I know. Um,
Speaker 1: but so you were from Russia. Win, Like, when did
Speaker 1: you move? So I moved to Russia? No, Well I
Speaker 1: was born in Russia, So you're Russian. I'm Russian. Okay,
Speaker 1: you consider Russian Aussian Russian Australia. Yes, So when do
Speaker 1: you go from Russia to Australia. So I believe I
Speaker 1: was like six years old. It would have been in
Speaker 1: one or ninety two we moved to Australia. Well you were,
Speaker 1: because that would make you nine. Maybe I was nine.
Speaker 1: Then this is why I have heard your accents very
Speaker 1: Australian though. Yeah, so that's good. I want to try
Speaker 1: to keep that. So you go to Australia and do
Speaker 1: you dance in Australia? Correct? So we didn't really have
Speaker 1: any money in Russia to kind of pay for dancing
Speaker 1: or do any of that. So when we moved to Australia,
Speaker 1: I tried absolutely everything. It was basketball is too short,
Speaker 1: karate was way too good, swimming too short, dancing, didn't
Speaker 1: even think of dancing. And there was a school dancing
Speaker 1: school right outside my school at this point. I was
Speaker 1: about twelve, nearly thirteen. That's late, huh to get in
Speaker 1: to start dancing. I mean, yeah, it's a bit late.
Speaker 1: But I was a bit of a troublemaker at school
Speaker 1: and at home, and there was always a line of
Speaker 1: girls outside this dance school, and the ratio looked amazing
Speaker 1: to me because no boy wanted to dance. So then
Speaker 1: I kind of just went into the school and I
Speaker 1: was the only boy in this dance school started dancing.
Speaker 1: I had different partners every day. It was the best
Speaker 1: day of my life every day, and we just started dancing.
Speaker 1: Did my first competition, kind of did pretty good, didn't
Speaker 1: expect it, and it just went on from there. Bare
Speaker 1: room dancing was not cool like these days that people
Speaker 1: want to like say, oh bore room to say, I'm
Speaker 1: a borom dancer. That's so cool because of shows like
Speaker 1: Dancing with the Star, So you think you can dance
Speaker 1: strictly come dancing. So um to be a born dancer
Speaker 1: now is it's cool. Back in the day, we would
Speaker 1: always wear fake tan. I would have to lie to
Speaker 1: at school. I've just got some kind of rash. H
Speaker 1: It's not rash from head to toe. Bahamas last night
Speaker 1: and yeah, it's just it's been the best roller coaster
Speaker 1: of my life. Did you do the Australian version? I
Speaker 1: did do the Australian version as a pro, as a pro. Yes.
Speaker 1: Was that your first was that it was before dance
Speaker 1: was as America? Right? Uh? No, dancers starts, so it
Speaker 1: started in England in America and then you did England. No,
Speaker 1: I mean like the actual dancing, but you're a part.
Speaker 1: Did you do Australia first and as a pro as
Speaker 1: a pro? And so you and what are the celebrities
Speaker 1: like on Dancing with the Stars Australia. They were good.
Speaker 1: I mean we had a lot of fun. I had
Speaker 1: a girl called Nikki Webster. That's the thing too, That's
Speaker 1: the thing, not you too. I'm just saying that's the thing,
Speaker 1: a recurring thing through all the show. You're just you're
Speaker 1: so close. It is it's like a marriage, which is
Speaker 1: I've never been in anything like a marriage until this. Now,
Speaker 1: actually I would say it's actually a little better good.
Speaker 1: I mean we went through all when you're with someone again,
Speaker 1: you guys just every season, which is crazy to me.
Speaker 1: It's like here we go again, rinse and repeat. Such
Speaker 1: an emotional world coast and there's the meeting part and
Speaker 1: you're like, oh boy, I don't know how it's gonna work.
Speaker 1: And then the great times, I mean sure not, I
Speaker 1: get some big fights, big fights, but and then we
Speaker 1: would be like, oh, well, we mean to a lot together.
Speaker 1: So it's like, I think that's what a marriage was like, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: through thick and thin, you can have these blowouts. Put
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, you're still you still
Speaker 1: have a common interest and you're still working towards something
Speaker 1: together and that kind of like unites you, so don't
Speaker 1: you can't forget it. It's like you know that in
Speaker 1: the end you have each other's back, yeah, because you're
Speaker 1: We were together every We didn't take a day I
Speaker 1: don't know if you guys do you normally take days off.
Speaker 1: We did because merely got injured sometimes, but it's not normal,
Speaker 1: right everybody usually, So we didn't take a day off
Speaker 1: from the first day we heard of practicing, and we
Speaker 1: were practiced for sometimes seven, eight nights, sometimes twelve hours
Speaker 1: because I didn't I wasn't getting it right and I
Speaker 1: never spent that much time with the human ever in
Speaker 1: my life. It was the whole world opening to me
Speaker 1: just just in human. But don't you agree, like that's
Speaker 1: the best part of our show. Like every season is
Speaker 1: a new season. And for the celebrity you go on
Speaker 1: literally on a roller coaster. It's not something that's like
Speaker 1: you know you can do in two minutes three minutes,
Speaker 1: you really do transform into like a dancer. And I
Speaker 1: remember specifically you saying like, bro, this is like I'm
Speaker 1: never going to dance again. This is done, and then bam,
Speaker 1: Bobby Bones Dancing Stars Tour first to left on the road, Boom.
Speaker 1: I did go out and do some dates with you guys. Yeah.
Speaker 1: It was also I felt weird too on the on
Speaker 1: the bus because an issue for me is I didn't
Speaker 1: want that star room because it's a big room while
Speaker 1: all you guys sleep in the box, I'm in like
Speaker 1: the King Dingling sweet back there, right, And I remember going,
Speaker 1: you guys, I don't have to sleep back here, like
Speaker 1: I'll take a book, does anyone else want it? Because
Speaker 1: I didn't want to be that guy. I never wanted
Speaker 1: to be that guy ever through the season through even
Speaker 1: on tour. I didn't want to have Hey, Bobby's gets
Speaker 1: the big bunk and they were like, no, this is
Speaker 1: how it works because all the dancers have to be equal,
Speaker 1: so whoever comes in as the star takes that room.
Speaker 1: So that was that was a bit weird for me
Speaker 1: to come in, and I just want. I felt weird
Speaker 1: about winning. I know you do, you feel like you
Speaker 1: but you're so um, You're so modest. It's almost like
Speaker 1: sometimes when I watch you, it's like disabilitating. But don't worry.
Speaker 1: No one else has a problem with winning. No one
Speaker 1: else has a problem about sleeping in the in the
Speaker 1: room at the back, it's actually pretty bumpy. So I
Speaker 1: mean when I tour, we have a bus. My band tours,
Speaker 1: so I'm I was used to it, um, and I
Speaker 1: don't want sleeping on that one because I paid for
Speaker 1: that bus. So on my band's touring, take the big
Speaker 1: bunk with the chandelier, like give me all that because
Speaker 1: I actually but you know that one. I paid for it,
Speaker 1: so that one's that one's fine. But I felt weird
Speaker 1: and I just don't want to come off with Doucy
Speaker 1: the whole season. I just wanted because I was so
Speaker 1: grateful that you guys would help me. And I was
Speaker 1: never afraid to ask for help because I'm a big
Speaker 1: believer and if you want help, go ask for it
Speaker 1: because people will do it and they're happy to do
Speaker 1: it because they've often asked for help before, Like helpers
Speaker 1: have been the most helped. I feel um. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I did the tour, but do you know I told
Speaker 1: him I don't want to dance because I didn't do
Speaker 1: any dance numbers at the little spots. But I was like,
Speaker 1: I don't want to dance. Guys said the same thing. Yeah, Like,
Speaker 1: and I told Joe before he went on. I was like,
Speaker 1: I asked not to dance. I was like, so I
Speaker 1: didn't want to and I was having to dance with
Speaker 1: somebody new because if I could dance with Emma, I
Speaker 1: would have done it. But because we talked about it before,
Speaker 1: I was like, hey, Searan is not going on tour,
Speaker 1: and if I can dance with you, I'm gonna do
Speaker 1: it because I would have felt comfortable being an idiot
Speaker 1: and and learning slow. But they had me dancing with Hayley,
Speaker 1: who don't really know that well. It takes me a
Speaker 1: while to warm up with people. And I was like,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be hard. I'm gonna hold off, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna do my So I did dance with
Speaker 1: all the dudes. Yeah, of course. And so it was
Speaker 1: only like a few it was only four shows or
Speaker 1: something like that. Yeah, and Joe has gone the whole
Speaker 1: tool without performing once. Let me let me ask you
Speaker 1: a question, Bobby. If if Broadway was to come up
Speaker 1: to here and say we have a spot for you
Speaker 1: to do, what to dance and sing? If it was
Speaker 1: very Broadway right there, that doesn't matter to me. The
Speaker 1: Broadway part doesn't know, no, I mean, it just depends.
Speaker 1: That was no. Do you know what would be better fitting?
Speaker 1: If you were to, like you got you're going to
Speaker 1: host the Oscars or the Tony, I would dance in that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's you would be the opening number at the Tonys.
Speaker 1: I would dance on that. I dance all the time
Speaker 1: on stage, even when I play guitar. I can dance
Speaker 1: the play. But it was just the choreography part. And
Speaker 1: not only that, the science. What I learned about dancers was,
Speaker 1: holy crap, you guys are gifted. It's not just you
Speaker 1: guys are go out and dance. There's a there's a science.
Speaker 1: There's a professional athlete aspect to you guys that I
Speaker 1: never knew that I was introduced at the first day,
Speaker 1: I walked down with Sharna and I was like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, she's a professional athlete. All of you guys
Speaker 1: are professional athletes. I know. I just thought you guys
Speaker 1: like to go to the club. So they were like,
Speaker 1: come on in, what did I know? I don't know anything.
Speaker 1: And then the touching, It was so much touching. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was the first day. It was let me do
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Speaker 1: dot com. Okay, so the first day, I'll walk into
Speaker 1: um the room and charnas like here if she got
Speaker 1: in my hand, holds my hand and I'm like, what's
Speaker 1: happening right now? Does you want to marry me? I
Speaker 1: was like, And then it was like are you doing this?
Speaker 1: I was like already quick, I heard, but then You're like, okay,
Speaker 1: put your hands here on my hid flo and I
Speaker 1: was like, uh do what? But it's you guys. This
Speaker 1: culture is so physical. Yeah, it's like, Hi, nice to
Speaker 1: meet you, Okay, touch my nose with your nose, grind
Speaker 1: into my pelvis. What's your name again? Yeah? That's what
Speaker 1: I felt like. But that's the best part. No, it
Speaker 1: was once I got it, I felt good about it,
Speaker 1: and I would come back into this room and be
Speaker 1: a little too fis of goal. I'd grab my course,
Speaker 1: come here and grab her hand and she like, what
Speaker 1: are you doing? Like you know what? Sorry, I'm in
Speaker 1: the culture. So it's not weird. Let me ask you,
Speaker 1: because we have no experience about being in another like
Speaker 1: environment like workspace. Is it weird if I came in
Speaker 1: and I was all like the dancer that I am
Speaker 1: in a workspace, would I have like HR department come
Speaker 1: down on me hard? You may not because you're a woman, right,
Speaker 1: and women are a little more touchy feely. But if
Speaker 1: I did, absolutely, and from with you guys, you're married,
Speaker 1: is it it can't be weird because this is you
Speaker 1: guys life. But if I've got a partner and she's
Speaker 1: just grinding it up, it's nothing. Huh no, No, No,
Speaker 1: I've never like, I've never yeah, I've never had an
Speaker 1: issue with like that at all because we both do
Speaker 1: it and we both understand what it is like it
Speaker 1: seriously doesn't. It means nothing. It's like brushing your teeth.
Speaker 1: There's like no emotional attachment to it at all. That's
Speaker 1: it's it's all right. It's actors I think that get
Speaker 1: it worse, Like imagine like the sex scene, Like, what
Speaker 1: do you do? Then? I know, if you're watching your
Speaker 1: husband and they're like the actor and they have like
Speaker 1: a sex scene, Oh my god, I don't know. I
Speaker 1: couldn't watch. I'd have to like fast forward it. But
Speaker 1: what you guys are feeling about that, that's what I
Speaker 1: feel about the dancing. It's just that, Yeah, it's it's wild.
Speaker 1: And I mean everybody thought that Shannon and I were
Speaker 1: having sex because you just looked like that they do.
Speaker 1: Everybody thinks that everybody's together all the time. Like and
Speaker 1: I were together for three years? Did you know that
Speaker 1: I didn't know that. I never brought it up because
Speaker 1: I eno if I was supposed to, so when I
Speaker 1: didn't bring it up to him, not even like I
Speaker 1: just don't anything about it. Yeah, yeah, Sashion Shana was
Speaker 1: together for three years or three years or twoyears three years?
Speaker 1: How did that work out? It was good. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm sitting in front of my wife here up. Me
Speaker 1: and Shanna laugh about it all the time. It was
Speaker 1: never a could even six months after they broke up,
Speaker 1: we were all on the show together. No, no, it
Speaker 1: was right six months after they broke up because we
Speaker 1: only got together. We were on together for two months
Speaker 1: before and this was like right after they broke up
Speaker 1: and she went on the show with Sasha and I didn't.
Speaker 1: So they were on the show together and I wasn't
Speaker 1: even word we did out at all about it when
Speaker 1: you went on the Trust and that's a good thing.
Speaker 1: You guys are troope, right, And she started truth And
Speaker 1: so what troop is is on Dancing One Stars now
Speaker 1: like Morgan is true, Hayley is true, Breat's Troop, then
Speaker 1: our tour Brandon and it's like if I'm dancing with Sara,
Speaker 1: all the other people dancing our stage, those are yeah,
Speaker 1: extra dances. So you started as that, yeah, And I
Speaker 1: mean being on troop is kind of in a way
Speaker 1: harder than sometimes being a pro because you're constantly wanting
Speaker 1: to prove yourself to show that you can be a pro.
Speaker 1: And I feel like being in the troop you learned
Speaker 1: so much a about people around you and be um
Speaker 1: to become a better dancer, to become like a better performance.
Speaker 1: Is that the goal when you're doing troop to get
Speaker 1: on the show as a pro. Yeah. I find it's
Speaker 1: more competitive being in the troop than it is being
Speaker 1: like a pro on the show, just because you know,
Speaker 1: you constantly want to do the best job, you need
Speaker 1: to be seen, and um, it was definitely yeah. Competitive
Speaker 1: whenever you get the call would be to go from
Speaker 1: troop to pro. Pretty nerve wracking to go I'm about
Speaker 1: to do your my own thing or pretty exciting. We
Speaker 1: both And it's funny because we both got that call
Speaker 1: on the same season season the same season. Yes, she
Speaker 1: was dancing with snooky Nicole. How is that? How is
Speaker 1: Anthon was snooky for it? Seriously? We had so much fun.
Speaker 1: She is a ratchett. She's a character. And I remember
Speaker 1: her dad was like because she had kids then, um
Speaker 1: and she had to fly. We had to fly to
Speaker 1: Jersey every time. But then there was one week, like
Speaker 1: you know, like the team Dancers something where we had
Speaker 1: to stay and her Dad's like, okse, Nicole's going to
Speaker 1: stay this week, just please, you know, look after blah blah.
Speaker 1: Of course, so we get I get to rehearsals and
Speaker 1: I'm like, where is it called? Ten minutes? Fiften minutes,
Speaker 1: She's never lated, twenty minutes, thirty minutes. I call her.
Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, we're right, we got rehearsals and and
Speaker 1: she's like, yeah, yeah. I'm like, what are you doing.
Speaker 1: She's like, I'm getting another tattoo. I was like, oh shit,
Speaker 1: how far did you guys go? First season? First season?
Speaker 1: I think it was week seven out of ten. Ten
Speaker 1: And so your first season, Emma, who did you get?
Speaker 1: I got Bill Angfold, comedian, the comedian, nicest guy in
Speaker 1: the world, married us. Yeah, he married us. He was
Speaker 1: the guy. Yeah, like like I called him my fad,
Speaker 1: my fake American dad. Like we jelled straight away, and
Speaker 1: he kind of became because when I first got Tomes
Speaker 1: with Bill, I was so excited that I wasn't even
Speaker 1: on the show, but I didn't know who was because
Speaker 1: I'm British and he's very much like a blue collar
Speaker 1: comedy group and everything like American, all American and so um.
Speaker 1: When I met him, he was so gentlemanly, like I
Speaker 1: love his wife too, charming, um, just lovable and he
Speaker 1: stole could not dance really, I mean he was actually
Speaker 1: turned out to be like in the middle of all
Speaker 1: my my partners in terms of ability. Um, but but
Speaker 1: wasn't really a great dancer. And it just turns out
Speaker 1: that he just stole everybody's hearts. Like everybody's hearts. They
Speaker 1: all fell in love with him and um and then
Speaker 1: we ended up going all the way to the finals
Speaker 1: and and came forth. I remember and I remember, you know,
Speaker 1: like an elimination and it was our team dance. It
Speaker 1: was like week seven, westing there and they're like and
Speaker 1: they love to do this to us, and they're like, Okay,
Speaker 1: couple in Jeopardy, Nicole and Sasha couple in Jeopardy, Bill
Speaker 1: and Emma, and then Bill and Emma. By the way,
Speaker 1: every single week from about week three were the ones
Speaker 1: to go home. We were in the bottom to consistently,
Speaker 1: and every we were the ones that were gonna, oh,
Speaker 1: they're going to go next, They're going to go next.
Speaker 1: We were that, and we were I think we were
Speaker 1: like fourth or third in the leader board at the time.
Speaker 1: And then I remember looking down at him and I'm like,
Speaker 1: maybe I love you. I'm sorry, And I didn't. I
Speaker 1: knew it was us, me and built like I didn't
Speaker 1: even think. It didn't go to my mind for one
Speaker 1: second that they would call their name because it's our
Speaker 1: first season. I didn't know how they work, and they
Speaker 1: do do that a lot. They do want the shock factor.
Speaker 1: I just assumed it's us. So what we were making
Speaker 1: out peace and I was looking at Snooky and I
Speaker 1: was like, I feel so sorry for her. It's gonna
Speaker 1: be horrible. And they're like a couple going home tonight
Speaker 1: is Snooky and Sassa, and I just word, what the fun?
Speaker 1: And I started like crying straightaway, that's fun? Um? Did
Speaker 1: you and Drew get put in the bottom all that? Like?
Speaker 1: Didn't they? Drew Scott property brother? It was great and
Speaker 1: he was one of the guys that really before I
Speaker 1: came on the show that I went to was like, Hey,
Speaker 1: should I do this? So he was wonderful to me.
Speaker 1: But you guys got put in the bottom of light
Speaker 1: and then we went far right. Oh yeah again. We
Speaker 1: made to the finals two and we were in the
Speaker 1: bottom a lot. He's just his six ft five and um, like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, I can't say enough good things about him.
Speaker 1: He's just he can put energy. He's one of those
Speaker 1: people who can put energy through twenty four hours a
Speaker 1: day into whatever he's doing and never get tired. So
Speaker 1: we had a blast, weird flight to Toronto and and
Speaker 1: and he's dantaying like he found he found the natural groove.
Speaker 1: Pretty hard, but he would pick up probably faster than
Speaker 1: anybody else has ever had, Like he put picked up
Speaker 1: Carregrey really quick, but then naturally it just wouldn't come.
Speaker 1: He was quite tall, so he kind of stuffered a
Speaker 1: little bit from the lanky business. But he was pretty
Speaker 1: he was pretty decent. But we were in the bottom
Speaker 1: a lot, like pretty much. We were like bottom three,
Speaker 1: I think on the first week, and then he would
Speaker 1: improve a little bit, but we would always be in
Speaker 1: the bottom, and then we ended up just going to finals.
Speaker 1: And that freestyle that I did was probably my favorite
Speaker 1: out of all the freest els, like, and he nailed it.
Speaker 1: He did really well when I went to him because
Speaker 1: he did what I was going to have to do,
Speaker 1: which is worked the whole time, multiple jobs. He did. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I was like, hey, man, I'm gonna do the show.
Speaker 1: I just signed to deal with ABC. They want me
Speaker 1: to dance with the stars. I've never danced. I was like,
Speaker 1: have you danced before the show? And He's like, before
Speaker 1: the show? Never, And I said, I have to work
Speaker 1: like every day in the radio. I got a tour.
Speaker 1: I'm doing stand up the first four weeks of the show.
Speaker 1: In the last week and he's like, dude, He's like,
Speaker 1: we flew everywhere. He said, we just had to find time.
Speaker 1: He said, you have to prioritize and go when it's
Speaker 1: time to go train. It has to be time to train.
Speaker 1: And so having a talk with him was really good
Speaker 1: for me. Him. He was one of the guys that
Speaker 1: gave me confidence at least I could go and put
Speaker 1: effort into it. Having other jobs at the same time,
Speaker 1: you guys were probably on a pad with just how
Speaker 1: busy you are because you were working. I remember your
Speaker 1: schedule a lot. You'd have to wake up in l
Speaker 1: a and it was the schedule that was The hours
Speaker 1: never bothered me because again I've worked hard forever, had
Speaker 1: to from just having to pay car insurance or rent. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but the hours at one o'clock. So I think what
Speaker 1: made it makes it hard is when you're when your
Speaker 1: mind is free. So, for instance, you get up in
Speaker 1: the morning, you're gonna get your coffee, You go to
Speaker 1: the studio, you're like, okay, it's coming up. You open
Speaker 1: your mind to a four hour rehearsal period. When you're
Speaker 1: so busy, you you switch off one thing and turn
Speaker 1: another thing on, and what what you find? Sometimes is
Speaker 1: you learn it and you get it, but because your
Speaker 1: brain doesn't have time to absorb it, you've switched off
Speaker 1: from one thing to another really quickly to do something else.
Speaker 1: That when you switch off that to go to another thing,
Speaker 1: a bit of that has left. So that's where I
Speaker 1: think it would have been so hard for the people
Speaker 1: traveling because you don't have an open mind of like
Speaker 1: I'm coming into the studio, I get up in now earlier,
Speaker 1: I do my normal things. I get ready for it.
Speaker 1: Day starts. You do it, it absorbs, you leave you rest,
Speaker 1: for instance, like your gig, you know you would have
Speaker 1: to do something else. Switch okay, let's train train, train,
Speaker 1: switch off, get onto a plane. You don't have time
Speaker 1: to kind of absorb it. So I think that's where,
Speaker 1: like some of the celebs have it so hard, but
Speaker 1: they do incredible. Who and you wont Emma? You want You?
Speaker 1: And Richard won that? What was winning like for you? Um?
Speaker 1: It was? It was so unexpected. I have like a
Speaker 1: few things about it. After I won. I was mad
Speaker 1: at myself forever thinking that I couldn't win because I
Speaker 1: really did, Like I was kind of typecast in the show.
Speaker 1: I always got the lovely country guys that were a
Speaker 1: little bit more mature. That was my type. That's what
Speaker 1: I would always get cast with. And so when I
Speaker 1: had Richard, I really was only given Richard because as
Speaker 1: an NFL player. All the other girls had had danced
Speaker 1: with NFL players apart from me, So I was kind
Speaker 1: of like the only one they could put him with,
Speaker 1: and I thought I'd hit the jack part like the lottery.
Speaker 1: He was. We were like best mates. He was so lovely.
Speaker 1: We never had a cross word. Every time I would
Speaker 1: give him any kind of correction, he took it like
Speaker 1: a sports player, like okay, and and I can't say
Speaker 1: enough good things about him. He was He was my
Speaker 1: teammate like completely throughout that whole um, that whole season,
Speaker 1: and he would really be stronger than I was. He'd
Speaker 1: be my rock because I knew that if I didn't
Speaker 1: perform with this guy, and if I didn't take him
Speaker 1: to the mirrorble, that was my fault. I knew that
Speaker 1: for sure. So I felt under a lot of pressure
Speaker 1: to really get there because he deserved to be there,
Speaker 1: and people were telling me, you know, this guy needs
Speaker 1: to go all the way. And at the same time,
Speaker 1: I felt like I started to do dances with Richard
Speaker 1: that I was really secretly quite proud of because I
Speaker 1: really started to believe that I wasn't able to put
Speaker 1: things like that together because of the way my seasons
Speaker 1: had always been, Like I guess I just got into
Speaker 1: a state of this is what it is for me.
Speaker 1: I'm never going to win, I'm not really good enough.
Speaker 1: And then when it happened, it was like it changed
Speaker 1: my life because I this is the highest that you
Speaker 1: can get on a superficial level, this is the highest
Speaker 1: you can get doing what we do as dancers and
Speaker 1: in this job. And then on a much bigger level,
Speaker 1: it made me realize I got to not do that.
Speaker 1: I can't put myself into a place where I can't
Speaker 1: believe that that that I can be something else or
Speaker 1: do something else, or be as good as other people. Um,
Speaker 1: I everybody else can think that of me, but I
Speaker 1: can't think that of me. So it really did change
Speaker 1: my life and I had this air of um confidence
Speaker 1: in a good way, like never never anything other than that,
Speaker 1: but like I felt so much more confident after that
Speaker 1: that it really enriched my life. It really did. Secually,
Speaker 1: haven't one yet when you hear that what are you thinking,
Speaker 1: Um No, I I feel like I've had some amazing
Speaker 1: partners and I've grown to me, winning is to to
Speaker 1: see someone transformed, to change. For example, I had someone
Speaker 1: like Tonya Harding, and the backlash that I would get
Speaker 1: from it was insane. And you know, listening to Tanya
Speaker 1: story and you know she's she's been. You know, I
Speaker 1: didn't get involved in what happened, but I never even
Speaker 1: asked what happened. But you know, people make mistakes, people
Speaker 1: get second chances, and it was just incredible to be
Speaker 1: there with her. You like her, I love her, I
Speaker 1: love her, and you know we got along so well,
Speaker 1: and she was hilarious and anyone she would cross path
Speaker 1: was path with. They would leave laughing and happy and smiling,
Speaker 1: and you know she would just transform. And from day one,
Speaker 1: you know, when um we did our first show, the
Speaker 1: backlash was like just trying to stay positive for her,
Speaker 1: trying to keep and motivated to you know, the last
Speaker 1: we made the final and people were like cheering for her.
Speaker 1: We got standing a Asian flipped them, she flipped them
Speaker 1: and just to be there next to her to see
Speaker 1: her like smile again. You know, she would talk about
Speaker 1: like ever Since that day happened, her life has been
Speaker 1: completely changed and dancier. The stars gave it the opportunity
Speaker 1: to kind of relive moments that she didn't get the
Speaker 1: chance to do. So for me, things like that are
Speaker 1: winning until you win, and then you're gonna be like this. Well,
Speaker 1: the good thing is I get to see the trophy
Speaker 1: every day. You know, I'm looking at her trophy? Where
Speaker 1: do you keep yours? Everywhere I walk? I kind of
Speaker 1: like figure out where's the most common place that Sasha's
Speaker 1: going to be, and I just pop it there. No,
Speaker 1: we we put it in the dining room. We've kind
Speaker 1: of got it, like when you walk in on the
Speaker 1: bar in my kitchen, Like, so it's right there, it's
Speaker 1: right there. Yeah, yeah, I love it. I got yeah,
Speaker 1: I love it. You've got a showcase that you're gonna
Speaker 1: be proud of it once in a lifetime. They catch
Speaker 1: me and asked for it to keep it for a year,
Speaker 1: and I was like, no, not yet. So I gave
Speaker 1: up to that. But my mc hand jacket, so I'll
Speaker 1: let him hang that up in the museum. But I
Speaker 1: was like, you can have the mirrorble it means too
Speaker 1: much too me, right, Now, isn't that crazy? Like a
Speaker 1: dance competition? You know, who would have thought like a
Speaker 1: dance competition would mean so much. It's because you guys
Speaker 1: go through so much to get to that spot. People
Speaker 1: don't realize how hard and how rewarding this competition is
Speaker 1: because all they see is the final product. They don't
Speaker 1: see you flying from one city to another, learning trying
Speaker 1: to dance and learning this, and the pros being like
Speaker 1: giving you all this work to do. They just see
Speaker 1: dancing the blah blah blah, and then you come out,
Speaker 1: get your scores, do the flaws fall over? You know
Speaker 1: what I mean? They don't. They don't see the hard work.
Speaker 1: So when when you guys, you know, get to a
Speaker 1: specific weaken the competition or get to tell a specific
Speaker 1: story that no one's ever seen about you or heard,
Speaker 1: it's kind of special because it's the first time people
Speaker 1: get to see it and you walk out a better person.
Speaker 1: What if you get a partner and you never say
Speaker 1: any names. But what if your partner and you're like,
Speaker 1: there's no way we're gonna win. Oh, You're like, there's
Speaker 1: no way I can say, I can I can speak
Speaker 1: about this openly? Like, so after my first season with
Speaker 1: Bill angviol Um, I was just off of the troop,
Speaker 1: got pro for the first time. It went really well,
Speaker 1: we got two finals and then um the next season,
Speaker 1: I got Billy d Williams, who was seventeen six at
Speaker 1: the time, really lovely guy, but but seventy six and
Speaker 1: dare I say, mobility wise, probably even older than that,
Speaker 1: Like he really he was so challenged physically. He couldn't
Speaker 1: he couldn't move, let Loane dance. So I was just
Speaker 1: I was constantly just trying to keep him positive and
Speaker 1: hold him marp and um and make this as comfortable
Speaker 1: for him as possible. It wasn't even remotely about entertaining
Speaker 1: or trying to get as far as well, trying to
Speaker 1: get as far as we can, but like it wasn't
Speaker 1: even remotely about winning. That's a different season. When you
Speaker 1: get someone like that, you just want to make sure
Speaker 1: they have the best time of their life and they
Speaker 1: have a really good experience, and that you can make
Speaker 1: it entertaining for what they can do. But it's more like,
Speaker 1: you know, I need the troop, I need lots of set.
Speaker 1: I need like you know, pyros and bells and whistles.
Speaker 1: But but for sure, and Billy D had to pull
Speaker 1: out because of yeah in week three, Um, he had
Speaker 1: to pull up for I think back injury. Is that
Speaker 1: frustrating for you though, because you know, not on him,
Speaker 1: but you know I'm not going to last that long.
Speaker 1: This is a season if yeah, yeah, I would have.
Speaker 1: I remember thinking in that season, I really wanted to
Speaker 1: dance with Charlie White, which is actually Shanna's partner. I'm
Speaker 1: just being super super open. Um, I really wanted to
Speaker 1: dance with Charlie White. He had the best personality. He
Speaker 1: just I loved his laugh, like he was so happy,
Speaker 1: and I bet I was like and on top of
Speaker 1: that as an ice dancer, like an ice dancer, and
Speaker 1: I was like, yes, I can had a great season
Speaker 1: last season, I can win this season. That is the
Speaker 1: guy that I wanted to anceer with. And I actually
Speaker 1: thought that I was going to meet him the day
Speaker 1: that I met Billy T. Williams. So so when I
Speaker 1: met Billy T. Williams, I was laughing to myself so
Speaker 1: hard because I was thinking, why am I so stupid?
Speaker 1: I I completely thought it was going to dance to
Speaker 1: somebody else, but we I ended up having a really
Speaker 1: good friendship with Billy Dean, and we even started sharing
Speaker 1: the same publicist as well, who I still used today.
Speaker 1: She's great. But it was a great season for for
Speaker 1: different reasons. I knew I wasn't gonna win. I I
Speaker 1: it wasn't going to be about the dancing, but I
Speaker 1: got I got to go to a lot of comic
Speaker 1: cons and I got a lot of and I got
Speaker 1: a lot of um like what like interesting conversations, and
Speaker 1: people want to talk to me because I was stancing
Speaker 1: with the Billy Willy Billy Willy, Billy t Williams Billy Willy,
Speaker 1: And again you have to say, but you ever get partners,
Speaker 1: you're like, we just don't get along the whole time,
Speaker 1: and you're like, this is miserable because that sucks. I
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know how that would be able
Speaker 1: to work if you don't because again Searnee had wonderful
Speaker 1: times and if you really rocky times, but if we
Speaker 1: didn't like it, if you didn't like each other or
Speaker 1: an't even really respect each other, there's no way that
Speaker 1: can be a healthy relationship. It's hard. Well, I never
Speaker 1: really had anybody I had a partner that I would
Speaker 1: say I wouldn't be friends with outside of of working together.
Speaker 1: But I never really butted heads in a big way
Speaker 1: to where it was a huge deal with any of
Speaker 1: my partners. I always said, I've been so lucky. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there was maybe one that that it was different to
Speaker 1: what I thought it was going to be. And probably
Speaker 1: and and as a result, don't really um, you know,
Speaker 1: having to continue friendship start anybody like that with you
Speaker 1: like brutal. No, not not really. I mean I've been
Speaker 1: really lucky with all my celebrities, and you know, as
Speaker 1: the most thing that would hurt the pros is because
Speaker 1: you put so much time and effort into it and
Speaker 1: when someone takes it kind of for granted. And I mean,
Speaker 1: to be honest, it hasn't really happened to me. All
Speaker 1: the partnerships that I've had, I've stayed really really close
Speaker 1: friends with. I mean Simone and Terra Joe. So tera
Speaker 1: Jo was the first little person to be on the show,
Speaker 1: and I danced with her. She was great and we
Speaker 1: had so much fun. I mean, she's got a mouth
Speaker 1: on her and we just we talked like once a
Speaker 1: week still and she was great. Yeah, and then you
Speaker 1: guys get engaged on the show. Yeah, I was scary
Speaker 1: on the show, and I think it was a consolation
Speaker 1: prize because I got eliminated the week before dancing with
Speaker 1: Rick Perry um, and then the next week we got
Speaker 1: engaged and it was insane. I was trying to grab
Speaker 1: his butt on TV because I just do that, and
Speaker 1: he had the ring in his butt pocket, so he
Speaker 1: was trying to hip my hand out the way. But
Speaker 1: when we stopped, like in the dress run, I had
Speaker 1: no idea what was going on, and it was coming
Speaker 1: at all. And first of all, that song is our song,
Speaker 1: so we kind of acknowledge, Oh, this is our song,
Speaker 1: you know that. I messaged Ashley and I was like,
Speaker 1: this is the song went on with him, Um it
Speaker 1: was Bruno Mars the Way You Are and then and
Speaker 1: so we were dunce into that and I thought, oh god,
Speaker 1: that's great, baby, listen, it's our song. We choreographed it.
Speaker 1: Next thing, I know, the wardrobe feeling, they're putting me
Speaker 1: in my favorite dress, Like it was a dress that
Speaker 1: that kind of like started, dare I say, started a
Speaker 1: trend on dancer side like see through like really gorgeous
Speaker 1: and then um and everybody always talked about it, so
Speaker 1: they put me in the dress and I was like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, this is like the address and the dress,
Speaker 1: the song, the dress, but I still didn't think of it.
Speaker 1: Then Shanna saw that they put a mic pack in
Speaker 1: my dress, which I was eliminated. They didn't need to
Speaker 1: do I'm not speaking, they don't need to do that
Speaker 1: for the show. But she didn't say anything, and I
Speaker 1: didn't even think about it. They told me, oh, Tom
Speaker 1: was going to ask you a few questions, so in
Speaker 1: the dress run he didn't. In the actual live show,
Speaker 1: Tom comes over, but I was prepared for it because
Speaker 1: they said he might ask you. But then in the
Speaker 1: dress round we finished that it was a bumper, and
Speaker 1: a bumper is something that you do, like a little
Speaker 1: dance thirty seconds from dance to dance from commercials. And
Speaker 1: Aaron Andrews was watching in the dress rount and she's like, oh, well,
Speaker 1: you two already getting engaged. And I just looked up
Speaker 1: at her and I just went, what just happened? Why
Speaker 1: did she say that she didn't know one you there was?
Speaker 1: It was an organic thought that was organic because you know,
Speaker 1: the chemistry was just amazing. And then um on the
Speaker 1: live show, tongue comes up and he just goes, Sasha,
Speaker 1: I know you've always wanted to host the show, so
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna let you take it away. And then
Speaker 1: I looked at Emma and then Emma's face was just
Speaker 1: like I was. I knew it was coming the baby
Speaker 1: and she went and I just was not at all
Speaker 1: cool or gracious at all, Like my face was awful.
Speaker 1: I just hyperventilated so hard. And and then and then yeah,
Speaker 1: we got engaged. It was awesome like at that, Well, listen,
Speaker 1: we've done an hour here. Wow, yeah, we've done an hour.
Speaker 1: UM's your social Sasha yours is Sasha Farber right at Instagram? Yeah,
Speaker 1: Sasha Faber one? Was there another Sasha Farber? Is there
Speaker 1: another one? Zero? You haven't had to buy that problem,
Speaker 1: Sasha Farber one. Emma yours is the Emma slates on.
Speaker 1: So there's Emma Slator already taken a Sasha Farbar already
Speaker 1: takes Yes, Emma Slater is a horse rider in England.
Speaker 1: Someone has Bobby Bones too. It's like a kid who
Speaker 1: got it way early. Yeah, they won't sell it to me,
Speaker 1: try to buy it like three or four times. No, really,
Speaker 1: he doesn't really use it. But the money keeps going
Speaker 1: up over the years, but now it's like I'm assigned
Speaker 1: to mine. Yeah you got Mr Bob like that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well listen, you two are my favorites. So we're gonna
Speaker 1: go hang out and and actually talk human stuff. But um,
Speaker 1: I'm really glad you got to come by and you
Speaker 1: get to come to the studio and glad you're in
Speaker 1: town and so all right, I'll see you guys back
Speaker 1: in California. Thanks, But right now it's is getting a
Speaker 1: car and go eat. But other than that, Yeah, alright,
Speaker 1: this has been what Mike what episodes is? This has
Speaker 1: been episode one seven of the Bobby Cast. Thank you
Speaker 1: guys for hanging out with us, and thanks to our sponsors,
Speaker 1: and we will see you next time. Mm hmm