WEBVTT - Hour 3 – Mike Florio, Seth Greenberg

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<v Speaker 1>You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox

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<v Speaker 2>It's the final hour on this Wednesday, Dan and The

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<v Speaker 2>dan ET's Dan Patrick Show. Mike Florio, on loan from

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<v Speaker 2>Pro Football Talk, will join this momentarily with the Brendan

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<v Speaker 2>Soorsby situation. I got word late yesterday and my source

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<v Speaker 2>said no supplemental draft for Sowersby, and I immediately contacted

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<v Speaker 2>Pauli and he said, I am shocked, and so I'm

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<v Speaker 2>trying to piece a little bit more together from my

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<v Speaker 2>source on this, and so I'm just waiting for more

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<v Speaker 2>information because according to him, Sworsby's camp did everything they

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<v Speaker 2>were supposed to do, but the NFL said they didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think this was just a question of is

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<v Speaker 2>it just the NFL doesn't want him in the league,

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<v Speaker 2>And the answer is obviously yes. But it felt like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>we did what we're supposed to do. Now you said

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<v Speaker 2>that we didn't. It feels like they're moving the goalpost

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit. But as I said, if I'm Brendan Soresby,

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<v Speaker 2>I spend the next six months making sure I'm rehabbing myself.

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<v Speaker 2>But I also go around to high schools around the country,

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<v Speaker 2>and you talk about how you got into this, and

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<v Speaker 2>you may have cost yourself your career. I'd do a

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<v Speaker 2>sit down with sixty minutes or sit down here, but

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<v Speaker 2>I would answer some questions here and I would illuminate

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<v Speaker 2>on some of this, just like I said to Pete Rose, Pete,

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<v Speaker 2>give back if you show that you're contrite. Here's another thing.

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<v Speaker 2>I was told that in some people's eyes in the

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<v Speaker 2>NFL Home office, he doesn't seem contrite. Now should that

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<v Speaker 2>factor into this? I don't think so. It feels like paperwork,

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<v Speaker 2>and you're able to go into the supplemental draft. Let

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<v Speaker 2>the teams decide if they want you, all right, eight

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<v Speaker 2>seven to seven three DP show email address Dpatdanpatrick dot com,

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<v Speaker 2>Operator Tyler sitting by. He'll take your phone calls. If

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<v Speaker 2>you look at the websites for all the NBA teams,

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<v Speaker 2>everybody did a great job last night. Everybody got who

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<v Speaker 2>they wanted. You know, everybody we got an a, give

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<v Speaker 2>us an a. You know, we got to hand out grades,

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<v Speaker 2>which I always find humorous. I mean I do. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>curious about when you give a grade because you know,

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<v Speaker 2>did Washington get a A for Kwame Brown?

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<v Speaker 3>Can?

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<v Speaker 2>Can you check back when Michael Jordan drafted Kwame Brown?

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<v Speaker 2>Did did they give the Wizards an A because Michael

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<v Speaker 2>Jordan was making the draft pick when Michael took Adam Morrison?

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<v Speaker 2>Did they give him an A for taking Adam Morrison?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just curious if these guys got a's for their

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<v Speaker 2>draft picks. Now, do I think Darren Peterson and aj

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<v Speaker 2>De bands that are going to be better than those picks? Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>I do, an awful lot. It was also this I

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<v Speaker 2>was surprised that the lack of adjectives used to describe

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<v Speaker 2>Cameron Boozer, because I kept lading, you know, what are

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<v Speaker 2>you gonna say? He's got an NBA like body? Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>what else you got? He's really fundamentally sound. Meanwhile, Peterson,

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<v Speaker 2>he could average thirty a game. De bensa man, he's

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be a first team All Pro one day.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, Paul, it takes a while to find it, but

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<v Speaker 4>I found some NBA draft grades from previous years. For

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<v Speaker 4>twenty eighteen, DeAndre Ayton, A minus.

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<v Speaker 3>Was the draft grade for that.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Marvin Bagley, the third was a B plus, great

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<v Speaker 4>offensive game. Now they got Luca right, they said, that's

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<v Speaker 4>an A for that draft pick. Here's one Mobamba A

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<v Speaker 4>plus grade for the magic drafting Mobamba out of Texas.

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<v Speaker 2>And so on, and so it's why it's tough. It's

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<v Speaker 2>tough in the moment to give a grade because you're

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<v Speaker 2>basing it off what you saw in college and you

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<v Speaker 2>know how that translates into the NBA. But yeah, there

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<v Speaker 2>are a lot of teams that got a's A plus. Yes, Paullie.

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<v Speaker 4>The Clippers got ripped for taking Sga over Michael Porter junior.

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<v Speaker 4>They said that Michael Porter Junior has much more upside

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<v Speaker 4>than Sga.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, all right, Barrett in Philadelphia, Hi, Barrett, what do

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<v Speaker 2>you have for me today?

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<v Speaker 5>Dan, Good afternoon, fellas.

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<v Speaker 6>Happy Wednesday. So I'm driving along here in Ontario, head

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<v Speaker 6>into Michigan, and I come up on one of our

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<v Speaker 6>America's favorite son, Todd's pass holes, and so I go

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<v Speaker 6>to pass them on the right hand side.

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<v Speaker 5>I give him a thumbs up.

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<v Speaker 6>The guy looks at me, he gives me a thumbs

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<v Speaker 6>down and gotta be related to Todd.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, okay, yeah, Todd is not moving over from the

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<v Speaker 2>fast line. He is just not going to do that,

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<v Speaker 2>Matt Montana. Then we'll bring in Mike Florio. Hi, Matt,

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<v Speaker 2>what do you have.

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<v Speaker 5>Right?

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<v Speaker 7>Hey man?

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<v Speaker 8>Hello, hey, hey man.

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<v Speaker 2>One six foot one seventy eight, one.

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<v Speaker 9>Eighty eight after the weekend.

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<v Speaker 8>Uh, I just wanted a way in this storesby.

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<v Speaker 2>Kid and addiction stuff. It does really bad.

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<v Speaker 9>H I applugbed the NFL for cutting out of that draft.

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<v Speaker 2>Whatever.

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<v Speaker 9>I think you should learn a lesson, and you got

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<v Speaker 9>to learn lessons hard and addiction it'll take over. I

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<v Speaker 9>just look at the remember the Chris Aaron story, And

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<v Speaker 9>I know he wasn't trying to get back in that

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<v Speaker 9>NBA or anything, but he owned up to everything, and

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<v Speaker 9>he went on later in seminars and spoke out and

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<v Speaker 9>you know I flogged that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, if he could have cleaned up earlier, then maybe

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<v Speaker 2>he gets back in. And yes, we all know addiction

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<v Speaker 2>a bad thing. And you know, the NFL wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>send a message here. They were drawing a line in

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<v Speaker 2>the sand. But I don't know if we've gotten the

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<v Speaker 2>true story yet about Brendan Sorosby's side of the things

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<v Speaker 2>that did they do everything they were supposed to do?

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<v Speaker 2>If it just comes down to, we don't want you

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<v Speaker 2>in the league. Mike Florio knows more than I do

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<v Speaker 2>Pro Football Talk Live co host and his latest novel,

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<v Speaker 2>pro sports in the age of legalized gambling. As we

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<v Speaker 2>make the segue to Brendan Sorosby, NFL moved the goalpost

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<v Speaker 2>here on Soorsby's team that they did get in before

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<v Speaker 2>the deadline.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, and Dan, I was listening to what you were saying.

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<v Speaker 10>I agree with the idea that there was a in

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<v Speaker 10>league circles and specifically in the league office, that there

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<v Speaker 10>needed to be a punishment. There needed to be accountability,

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<v Speaker 10>There needed to be a pound of flesh. Now what

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<v Speaker 10>they could have done and what they've done in the past,

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<v Speaker 10>they'll let a guy into the supplemental.

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<v Speaker 3>Draft and then suspend him later.

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<v Speaker 10>They did that with Terrell Pryor, different case but with

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<v Speaker 10>similarities from twenty eleven. Here's why I think they didn't

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<v Speaker 10>do that with Soresby if they had tried to suspend

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<v Speaker 10>him after he was drafted. They had two prior cases,

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<v Speaker 10>two guys currently on NFL rosters who had similar situations

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<v Speaker 10>to Soorsby and were never punished by the league. Kate

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<v Speaker 10>Sean Booty, the Patriots receiver who actually bet on LSU

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<v Speaker 10>games he played in, never punished by the league. They

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<v Speaker 10>didn't even know about it when he was drafted. And

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<v Speaker 10>Hunter Deckers, who resigned with the Saints this week. He

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<v Speaker 10>had no suspension, no punishment. He did the same thing

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<v Speaker 10>Soresby did. So instead of suspending him and opening yourself

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<v Speaker 10>up to the argument that, wait a minute, you didn't

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<v Speaker 10>do anything to Booty your Deckers, let's just slam the

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<v Speaker 10>door in his face. Let's just say we don't feel

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<v Speaker 10>like having a supplemental draft this year. We'll see you

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<v Speaker 10>in April, which is basically a one year suspension.

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<v Speaker 2>Could Soorsby and his agent have done anything different.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know what they could have done differently, Dan.

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<v Speaker 10>And the way that the letter to Soresby reads, it's

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<v Speaker 10>like this thing just fell out of the blue for

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<v Speaker 10>the NFL last week.

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<v Speaker 3>We know anything about this.

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<v Speaker 10>What are you talking about eligibility and eligibility the NCAA.

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<v Speaker 3>We don't have time to look into that.

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<v Speaker 10>And I think the truth as it's spelled out in

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<v Speaker 10>the statement that lawyer Jeffrey Kessler's office released last night

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<v Speaker 10>that they had given them everything that they asked for,

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<v Speaker 10>that they had even asked, if you need anything.

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<v Speaker 3>Else, let us know.

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<v Speaker 10>And Dan, I wouldn't be surprised if we find out

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<v Speaker 10>that there were maybe some communications between Soorsby's camp in

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<v Speaker 10>the NFL predating the application, maybe all the way back

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<v Speaker 10>to the beginning of this, because they knew what was

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<v Speaker 10>going to happen. If Kessler couldn't keep Soorsby in the NCAAA,

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<v Speaker 10>he was going to apply for the supplemental Draft. We

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<v Speaker 10>knew that from the moment that Soresby's eligibility came into

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<v Speaker 10>question at Texas Tech.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's just confusing, and I don't know it. And

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<v Speaker 2>we've talked about this, I think the last time with

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<v Speaker 2>Jeffrey Kessler. He's not afraid of the NFL. He's with

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<v Speaker 2>the NFL Players Association. But can a player who's not

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<v Speaker 2>a member of the NFL rely on the NFL Players

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<v Speaker 2>Association to help him get into the league.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, and Dan, that's a problem for Sowersby.

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<v Speaker 10>I went back and read the Maurice Claret legal decision

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<v Speaker 10>from two thousand and four and one of the things

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<v Speaker 10>said in that decision. Unions have an interest in protecting

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<v Speaker 10>their current membership. Soorsby's not a member until he's drafted

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<v Speaker 10>or signs a contract as an undrafted free agent. So

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<v Speaker 10>if the U union does something to help a guy

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<v Speaker 10>who's not a member, who once he's drafted, is going

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<v Speaker 10>to cause a current union member to lose his spot

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<v Speaker 10>on the roster.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a problem.

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<v Speaker 10>And I think that's why the union is keeping back

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<v Speaker 10>hands off. We don't know what to do here, and

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<v Speaker 10>I think they can't do anything because they'd be directly

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<v Speaker 10>hurting the rights of a current union member if they

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<v Speaker 10>help a non member try to get into the union.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, my suggestion was, don't sue the NFL. Take this

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<v Speaker 2>year off, six months, rehab yourself and give seminars to

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<v Speaker 2>high school football teams or kids and talk about how

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<v Speaker 2>you got into this. And it's only twenty dollars, but

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<v Speaker 2>I'm doing it nine thousand times, and it could easily

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<v Speaker 2>happen to you, and it may cost me my career.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe an act of contrition what Pete Rose. I truly

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<v Speaker 2>believe if he gave back for an entire year that

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<v Speaker 2>commissioner see league would have fought to reinstate him or

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<v Speaker 2>at least put him on the Hall of Fame ballot.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if that is going to work in

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<v Speaker 2>Brendan Soresby's camp. Do you sit down with sixty minutes

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<v Speaker 2>and do you know you got to you got to

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<v Speaker 2>glean some sympathy here or I thought about if you

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<v Speaker 2>put him in the supplemental draft, then you leave it

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<v Speaker 2>up to the teams if they want this headache on

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<v Speaker 2>their roster, and then if not, then you've done your

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<v Speaker 2>due diligence, as you know, the stewards of the league.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you think?

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<v Speaker 3>And I think that's a great point.

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<v Speaker 10>I think what he may do Dan is just not

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<v Speaker 10>fight it, take the year off, train for the draft

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<v Speaker 10>in twenty twenty seven, go around and speak to high

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<v Speaker 10>school students.

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<v Speaker 3>As you've said, he could be a great way.

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<v Speaker 10>This is a great opportunity to provide a tangible example

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<v Speaker 10>of what can happen to you, especially if you have

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<v Speaker 10>aspirations to play college football, any college sport, professional sports.

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<v Speaker 3>You got to stay away.

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<v Speaker 10>Now, this is, you know, the fruit of the forbidden tree.

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<v Speaker 10>Everybody else is eating it. You got to stay away

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<v Speaker 10>from it. If you're going to be involved in college

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<v Speaker 10>sports and pro sports, and I think he has a

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<v Speaker 10>great opportunity to help a lot of kids avoid the

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<v Speaker 10>problems he got into.

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<v Speaker 2>Talking to Mike Florio, Pro Football Talk Live, co host

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<v Speaker 2>the show that precedes Hours on Peacock's latest novel, Big Shield,

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<v Speaker 2>available in Amazon in ebook form for only ninety nine cents,

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<v Speaker 2>A tale of the mob and pro sports in the

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<v Speaker 2>age of legalized gambling. Why while I have you. We've

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<v Speaker 2>seen these new fields for the World Cup, and boy

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<v Speaker 2>they look great. And there's some NFL players saying, well,

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<v Speaker 2>wait a minute, I thought you said it's too expensive

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<v Speaker 2>that we Why can't we keep the grass that's down

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<v Speaker 2>on these fields that we would be using for NFL games.

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<v Speaker 10>Well, and Dan, here's the reality. It's now a collective

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<v Speaker 10>bargaining issue. How bad do the players want it? You

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<v Speaker 10>can prefer grass to terf What are you going to

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<v Speaker 10>give up to get the owners to spend the money

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<v Speaker 10>to retro fit dome stadiums to have grass for NFL games?

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<v Speaker 10>And you got to prioritize what you're looking for when

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<v Speaker 10>it's time to bargain with the NFL.

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<v Speaker 3>We know what the NFL wants.

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<v Speaker 10>They want eighteen regular season games, sixteen international games. They

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<v Speaker 10>want to reduce the size of the piece of the

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<v Speaker 10>pie that the players get. As the pie keeps getting

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<v Speaker 10>larger and larger, what are the players.

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<v Speaker 3>Willing to fight for?

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<v Speaker 10>And there's a fundamental imbalance in the relationship. The owners

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<v Speaker 10>will shut the sport down for a year to get

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<v Speaker 10>what they want. We know all the way back to

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<v Speaker 10>nineteen eighty seven, the players are not going to go

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<v Speaker 10>without football. They're not going to go without getting paid.

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<v Speaker 10>Will the players ever strike to get all grass fields?

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<v Speaker 10>And Dan, By the time we get to that point

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<v Speaker 10>five years from now, most of the guys currently.

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<v Speaker 3>In the league are going to be gone.

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<v Speaker 10>We're talking about what guys in high school and college

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<v Speaker 10>may do five years from now to try to get grass.

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<v Speaker 10>So you can want it, but you may not want

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<v Speaker 10>to do what you have to do to go get it.

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<v Speaker 2>So they're not testing for weed anymore, but they're testing

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<v Speaker 2>the players' ability or resolve of fighting for grass. So

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<v Speaker 2>there's some kind of correlation here, Mike, I think.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, and look, Dan, here's the bottom line.

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<v Speaker 10>We know how much power the league has over the players.

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<v Speaker 10>We've seen it play out time and again through collective

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<v Speaker 10>bargaining agreement negotiations. We know, at the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 10>the league's going to get what they want and for

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<v Speaker 10>the players to get what they want, it's always going

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<v Speaker 10>to be a fight.

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<v Speaker 2>You could have given me a courtesy laugh on the

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<v Speaker 2>weed and the grass. Mike, come in. I've been there

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<v Speaker 2>for you.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, Well, I'm sorry. I hope that I'm coming through.

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<v Speaker 10>Well, I'm apparently having technical difficulties on my end, so

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<v Speaker 10>I'm hearing every other word you're saying.

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<v Speaker 3>So I missed the joke.

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<v Speaker 2>I apologize. Okay, I'll leave you with this. The New

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<v Speaker 2>York Times did a deep dive on Diana Russini. I

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<v Speaker 2>guess that's like happening now, Like what are we waiting for?

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<v Speaker 2>This is supposed to this investigation that started in what January?

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<v Speaker 10>And Dan, I think that the New York Times report

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<v Speaker 10>is the appetite to the announcement of whatever the Athletic

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<v Speaker 10>owned and operated by the New York Times is going

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<v Speaker 10>to conclude and publish as it relates to its investigation

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<v Speaker 10>of her reporting. That was my first takeaway. This investigation

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<v Speaker 10>is just about done and we're going to find out soon.

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<v Speaker 10>And this New York Times article is just kind of

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<v Speaker 10>the precursor to what's coming maybe within the next week.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but what are they looking to find out here?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you know, they.

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<v Speaker 10>Claim they're going back and looking at her reporting, and

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<v Speaker 10>there's a lot of reporting to sift through to see

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<v Speaker 10>whether or not it was affected by an actual or

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<v Speaker 10>perceived conflict of interest, any reporting that relates directly or

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<v Speaker 10>indirectly to Mike Frabel when he was with the Titans,

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<v Speaker 10>when he wasn't working, when he's with the Patriots.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a lot of stuff.

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<v Speaker 10>There are a lot of tweets, a lot of podcasts,

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<v Speaker 10>a lot of reports, a lot of stuff to sift

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<v Speaker 10>through and ask yourself, was any of this affected by

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<v Speaker 10>what seems to be a pretty clear conflict of interest?

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<v Speaker 3>And that's really the core of this.

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<v Speaker 10>You create the conflict of interest by establishing a personal relationship,

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<v Speaker 10>and under the New York Times very exacting editorial guidelines,

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<v Speaker 10>that is a no.

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<v Speaker 2>No, Well, she can't be more out of a job,

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<v Speaker 2>But I mean, is this more unvrable now than her

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<v Speaker 2>because she doesn't have a job.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that.

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<v Speaker 10>This goes to some issues between the Times and the Athletic.

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<v Speaker 10>When the Times bought the athletic. The Times lost its most,

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<v Speaker 10>if not all, of it's in house sports reporting, and

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<v Speaker 10>I think a lot of what the Athletic is doing

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<v Speaker 10>here is trying to just placate the workforce and create

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<v Speaker 10>the impression that they care about their editorial standards.

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<v Speaker 3>They're going to do something about it.

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<v Speaker 10>They're going to have transparency with their employees, and they're

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<v Speaker 10>going to send a message to everyone about what a

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<v Speaker 10>New York Times owned and operated publication is willing to tolerate.

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<v Speaker 10>I think that's what it's all about.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, Mike, Who's always.

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks Dan.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh yeah, I just saw that this is a big

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if this is a Sunday Magazine Diana

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<v Speaker 2>Russini article, but it's a deep dive. I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>what they're going to tell us and how that matters

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<v Speaker 2>to anybody. Does it affect Mike Vrabel at all? Probably not,

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<v Speaker 2>And Diana Rossini hasn't said anything and she's out of

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<v Speaker 2>a job, so this might be just, hey, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>self gratuitous on the Times part, or the Athletics say,

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<v Speaker 2>look at us. You know, we have standards here and

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<v Speaker 2>we're gonna uphold those standards. We'll take a break. Seth Greenberg,

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<v Speaker 2>former coach, works for the Mothership. He'll recap the draft

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<v Speaker 2>and we'll chat with him after this.

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<v Speaker 2>Comment away. He is Seth Greenberg. He's been very busy

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<v Speaker 2>last night and today ESPN College Basketball an list former

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<v Speaker 2>college basketball head coach, Seth, thanks for carbon out some

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<v Speaker 2>time for us. Was there a clear number one prospect

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<v Speaker 2>in your opinion last night?

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<v Speaker 5>Not really? I mean you could build a case for

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<v Speaker 5>any four of those guys.

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<v Speaker 8>I like Daron.

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<v Speaker 5>Peterson through all the drama and everything that's gone on

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<v Speaker 5>with him in terms of a pure basketball player, and

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<v Speaker 5>asked me who's shot ready, skills, offensively, defensive lead They

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<v Speaker 5>came easier for others. Derpias was the most the best

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<v Speaker 5>basketball player, the best basketball player in the draft, but

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<v Speaker 5>you have to evaluate all the other things that surrounded

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<v Speaker 5>him during the course of the season. And that's why

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<v Speaker 5>deposed who You cannot go wrong because you know the

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<v Speaker 5>guy is built like a Greek god. He plays hardest

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<v Speaker 5>to be, he loves the game, He's I've got a

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<v Speaker 5>maturity about him. So no, there were no wrongs answers

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<v Speaker 5>in the first four picks.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know about you, but I felt bad for

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<v Speaker 2>Cameron Boozer, who leads Duke and points, rebounds, assist, and

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<v Speaker 2>it just it felt like he was slotted as yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you know it can be a solid player, like there's

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<v Speaker 2>no real highlights with him, but it felt like if

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<v Speaker 2>I was coming up with a new measuring stick adjectives

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<v Speaker 2>per draft prospect, He's going to be on the lower

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<v Speaker 2>end of that because just didn't feel like he had

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<v Speaker 2>that upside and highlight reel that you would expect for

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<v Speaker 2>somebody who claims to be the number one player in

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<v Speaker 2>the country.

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<v Speaker 5>I one hundred percent agree with that. I thought he

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<v Speaker 5>was the most undeevaluated and appreciated player in the draft.

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<v Speaker 5>He's going to get nineteen to twenty and ten basically

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<v Speaker 5>for his whole career in the NBA. He's another guy

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<v Speaker 5>high basketball, shoot, great field, that big body of his,

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<v Speaker 5>he could pick a poppet, shoot threes, he can pass

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<v Speaker 5>it latterly defensively, he's much better than anyone realizes. Everyone

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<v Speaker 5>tried to pick out. Oh, well, you know that he

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<v Speaker 5>doesn't have great lift. The guy's six, say, with a

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<v Speaker 5>seven to one wingspan. But I thought he was the

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<v Speaker 5>most under properly analyzed and evaluated player in the draft

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<v Speaker 5>and the most NBA ready in terms of dealing with

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<v Speaker 5>being an NBA player and dealing with every year that

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<v Speaker 5>surrounds that because of his maturity and let's face it,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, to me, it's how he was raised, and

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<v Speaker 5>not just Carlos, but his mom as well. They did

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<v Speaker 5>an incredible job modeling behavior. He had great body behavior

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<v Speaker 5>in terms of way his family carries themselves with the

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<v Speaker 5>way most laws and CCI it's.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know how many times we've seen a team

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<v Speaker 2>draft somebody because it's specifically for another player that they're

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<v Speaker 2>going to be facing. Like, okay, see with Mara, it

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<v Speaker 2>felt like we're taking you because we're going to be

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<v Speaker 2>facing them, and that's our main competition to get back

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<v Speaker 2>to the NBA finals.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, and also as an insurance policy with heartsh team,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, because they've got to sign him right now,

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<v Speaker 5>so I mean like it's an insurance policy. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>he you know, guard one alien, you you go get

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<v Speaker 5>another alien. I mean, you know it sounds silly, but

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<v Speaker 5>you know, Mars his land, his ability to impact the

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<v Speaker 5>game at the rim. He's got very very good passer.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, he's got some skill set. But yeah, one

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<v Speaker 5>thing about Sam Presty like their ability to evaluate and

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<v Speaker 5>get thunder guys but also guys that are going to

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<v Speaker 5>give them an edge everything at basketball where there you're

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<v Speaker 5>coming off a ball screen or you're putting together ross,

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<v Speaker 5>you're always trying to find an edge, and Sam Presty

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<v Speaker 5>finds an edge better than any guy that's doing that

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<v Speaker 5>job right now. In terms of you having a president.

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<v Speaker 2>We're talking to Seth Greenberg, ESPN college basketball analyst and

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<v Speaker 2>of course, former college basketball coach. What does Dusty May

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<v Speaker 2>leaving Michigan abruptly say about the state of coaching in

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<v Speaker 2>college basketball.

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<v Speaker 5>The business of college basketball is what I call it. Look,

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, Dusty May just won a national championship, won

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<v Speaker 5>a national championship, and instead of going back to the

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<v Speaker 5>hotel and celebrating with the families and the players, right,

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<v Speaker 5>he had to get on zoom calls and make phone

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<v Speaker 5>calls because, as crazy as it sounds, the NBA, you

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<v Speaker 5>have had better chance to build a long term culture

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<v Speaker 5>than you do in college today. In the NBA, there

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<v Speaker 5>are guardlines, guard rails and guidelines. In college there are none.

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<v Speaker 8>In the NBA.

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<v Speaker 5>You signed players to contracts. In college, you'll sign to

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<v Speaker 5>a one year contract and they're a free agent. So

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<v Speaker 5>in terms of the health of our sport, our sport's

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<v Speaker 5>never been better. In terms of how the game is

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<v Speaker 5>being played, as you've played at a high level, the

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<v Speaker 5>players are skilled, the spacing, the flow, the force out,

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<v Speaker 5>the entertainment has never been better. Of college basketball is

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<v Speaker 5>an absolute mess. It's an absolute mess. And you see

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<v Speaker 5>a guy as young and as successful as dust he

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<v Speaker 5>may and he says, I have no life, and this

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<v Speaker 5>is what the guys. Look. I speak to guys all

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<v Speaker 5>year long, and all the coaches are getting paid all that.

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<v Speaker 5>But I understand that. I understand that. But then I

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<v Speaker 5>have been given the money. It's seven days a week,

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<v Speaker 5>twelve months a year, twenty four hours a day, whether

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<v Speaker 5>it's putting together a roster or dealing with everything else

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<v Speaker 5>that's going on, like raising pay for play money, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>like you know, like it's evaluating the next class, Like

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<v Speaker 5>why have you some of the NBA guys that have

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<v Speaker 5>gone from n BEING to college haven't succeeded in a

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<v Speaker 5>lot of way in our game. Is because they don't nderst.

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<v Speaker 5>In the NBA, you're gonna put together a roster. Then

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<v Speaker 5>you're going to add to your roster. In college the

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<v Speaker 5>best teams, you might retain one or two guys. You're

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<v Speaker 5>putting a whole new team together, all right in three

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<v Speaker 5>weeks after the season.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, great stuff. As always said, thanks for joining us.

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<v Speaker 2>We appreciate your time.

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<v Speaker 5>Hey, you're the best DP. You know, Peterson's good, but

0:25:28.440 --> 0:25:31.680
<v Speaker 5>I think you know, I think you When we put

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<v Speaker 5>a list of dps, people go who's on the.

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<v Speaker 1>Top of it.

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<v Speaker 5>You're on top of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Goody, Thank you, sir, thank you. That's Seth Greenberg. I

0:25:44.040 --> 0:25:46.080
<v Speaker 2>didn't know there was a list of those who had

0:25:46.080 --> 0:25:51.240
<v Speaker 2>the initials DP DP uh fresh in Milwaukee, Hi Fresh.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you have for me today?

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<v Speaker 12>What's up? DP and Dan Nick? How you guys doing

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<v Speaker 12>the day?

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<v Speaker 13>Great?

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<v Speaker 12>Well, we've been talking about this college Betton thing got

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<v Speaker 12>me thinking about a good question for you. What's the

0:26:04.720 --> 0:26:08.080
<v Speaker 12>greatest sports scandal that you ever covered and didn't have

0:26:08.240 --> 0:26:11.199
<v Speaker 12>any effect on you on your view of sports?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I would say Pete Rose because, as I've said before,

0:26:17.320 --> 0:26:21.920
<v Speaker 2>I was using a bookie in outside of Cincinnati, and

0:26:22.040 --> 0:26:25.879
<v Speaker 2>he was a business partner of the bookie that Pete

0:26:25.960 --> 0:26:29.679
<v Speaker 2>Rose was using in Cincinnati. So I was well aware

0:26:29.720 --> 0:26:33.240
<v Speaker 2>of everything that Pete was doing, and I had just

0:26:33.280 --> 0:26:37.320
<v Speaker 2>started at the Mothership. So I would say that I

0:26:37.480 --> 0:26:40.359
<v Speaker 2>was friends with Mark McGuire when they were in front

0:26:40.359 --> 0:26:45.000
<v Speaker 2>of Capitol Hill with the steroids. That was obviously a

0:26:45.080 --> 0:26:47.840
<v Speaker 2>huge scandal, but that you know Pete. That cost Pete

0:26:47.920 --> 0:26:50.800
<v Speaker 2>his career, It cost him Hall of fame. You know,

0:26:50.880 --> 0:26:53.480
<v Speaker 2>McGuire has since worked in baseball and some of the

0:26:53.520 --> 0:26:58.080
<v Speaker 2>other guys who are there. They've worked in baseball, I

0:26:58.160 --> 0:27:01.399
<v Speaker 2>mean Alex Rodriguez, you know, front and center with Fox.

0:27:01.440 --> 0:27:05.600
<v Speaker 2>But the Pete Rose thing, and that hurt me personally

0:27:05.680 --> 0:27:08.800
<v Speaker 2>because I grew up a Cincinnati Reds fan and now

0:27:08.840 --> 0:27:13.280
<v Speaker 2>all of a sudden, you're getting information on, you know,

0:27:14.040 --> 0:27:18.399
<v Speaker 2>damning information on Pete Rose. And I had people, you know,

0:27:18.560 --> 0:27:22.399
<v Speaker 2>in my area that in Cincinnati they weren't pleased that

0:27:22.480 --> 0:27:25.400
<v Speaker 2>I had turned on Pete Rose. I'm like, I got

0:27:25.400 --> 0:27:27.960
<v Speaker 2>a job to do. I mean, this is this is

0:27:28.000 --> 0:27:31.480
<v Speaker 2>big boy stuff, and I treated it as as such.

0:27:31.520 --> 0:27:34.639
<v Speaker 2>But I would say that the Pete Rose, the magnitude

0:27:34.680 --> 0:27:37.840
<v Speaker 2>of that, I mean, baseball with steroids was pretty big.

0:27:38.320 --> 0:27:43.040
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if they're I wasn't involved with Lance Armstrong, Yeah.

0:27:42.840 --> 0:27:46.000
<v Speaker 4>PAULI a couple other scandals, though we did interview him. Yeah,

0:27:46.080 --> 0:27:48.480
<v Speaker 4>we had Lance on talked a lot about it. A

0:27:48.520 --> 0:27:50.919
<v Speaker 4>couple other scandals that broke where when they broke, I

0:27:51.000 --> 0:27:54.639
<v Speaker 4>was like, this cannot be real. Nancy Kerrigan, Tanya Harding

0:27:55.119 --> 0:27:57.359
<v Speaker 4>around the Olympics. That was a soap opera.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but I didn't cover that. No fresh was asking

0:28:01.880 --> 0:28:04.159
<v Speaker 2>that I was involved in. I was involved with the

0:28:04.200 --> 0:28:08.080
<v Speaker 2>Pete Rose. I was involved with steroids. I was friends

0:28:08.080 --> 0:28:15.040
<v Speaker 2>with Jason Jiomby, but yeah, I wasn't. I mean Nancy Kerrigan, Uh,

0:28:15.640 --> 0:28:16.560
<v Speaker 2>I wasn't involved.

0:28:16.800 --> 0:28:17.000
<v Speaker 8>You know.

0:28:17.119 --> 0:28:20.119
<v Speaker 2>Later on, you know, we had Tanya Harding on to

0:28:20.160 --> 0:28:24.000
<v Speaker 2>talk about that. That didn't go well. But you know,

0:28:24.080 --> 0:28:26.600
<v Speaker 2>you stick around long enough, there'll be a scandal for

0:28:26.920 --> 0:28:30.359
<v Speaker 2>just about anybody. And even more so now it feels

0:28:30.440 --> 0:28:34.480
<v Speaker 2>like because there's gonna be more gambling scandals, that's for sure.

0:28:35.280 --> 0:28:39.480
<v Speaker 2>Phil in Texas, I Phil, what do you have for me? Hey?

0:28:39.560 --> 0:28:45.280
<v Speaker 7>Dan, second time caller five ten, two time iron man.

0:28:45.800 --> 0:28:50.360
<v Speaker 7>I had a solution for this situation with sword Beam,

0:28:50.400 --> 0:28:54.760
<v Speaker 7>following up with Florio Layer is a lawyer. Every single lawyer,

0:28:55.200 --> 0:28:59.280
<v Speaker 7>every single doctor, nurse, and teacher are under a license.

0:28:59.440 --> 0:29:02.520
<v Speaker 7>Five digit license, six digit license. They're issue when they

0:29:02.520 --> 0:29:05.400
<v Speaker 7>come into the profession. Why don't we do this with athletes?

0:29:05.800 --> 0:29:08.640
<v Speaker 7>You issue them a license when they come in. This

0:29:08.720 --> 0:29:12.160
<v Speaker 7>is your license. There's a longer list of professional rules

0:29:12.200 --> 0:29:15.240
<v Speaker 7>of conduct that you have to observe. If you don't

0:29:15.280 --> 0:29:18.640
<v Speaker 7>follow them, then there's four things. You have a private

0:29:18.680 --> 0:29:24.520
<v Speaker 7>reprimand a public reprimand a suspension or you're revoked a felony.

0:29:24.920 --> 0:29:27.840
<v Speaker 7>The kid from the Ravens that hit that girl, He's gone.

0:29:28.240 --> 0:29:32.680
<v Speaker 7>That's a felony. Draymond Green lays out another player that's

0:29:32.760 --> 0:29:33.680
<v Speaker 7>felay assault.

0:29:34.000 --> 0:29:34.920
<v Speaker 3>He's gone.

0:29:35.160 --> 0:29:37.840
<v Speaker 7>There's no room for error. It takes the guest work

0:29:37.960 --> 0:29:42.840
<v Speaker 7>out from the NFLPA, from the commissioner. Fourier just says, well,

0:29:42.920 --> 0:29:45.560
<v Speaker 7>you know, the NFL went soft on this guy, and

0:29:45.600 --> 0:29:48.240
<v Speaker 7>now with swords be, you don't have to make an example.

0:29:48.560 --> 0:29:49.000
<v Speaker 5>All right.

0:29:49.680 --> 0:29:53.160
<v Speaker 7>If this kid wants to come into the NFL, then

0:29:53.160 --> 0:29:55.800
<v Speaker 7>what you can do is he can come in under suspension.

0:29:55.840 --> 0:29:59.400
<v Speaker 7>That's toe bating. You have five years. If you violate

0:29:59.480 --> 0:30:03.480
<v Speaker 7>the terms of this suspension or this probated sentence for

0:30:03.560 --> 0:30:05.760
<v Speaker 7>five years, then you're out.

0:30:08.280 --> 0:30:10.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm okay with any of that stuff. It's just you're

0:30:10.920 --> 0:30:12.920
<v Speaker 2>going to have a hard time with the Players Association

0:30:13.280 --> 0:30:18.360
<v Speaker 2>agreeing to that. These unions they're there to protect the player.

0:30:19.160 --> 0:30:21.080
<v Speaker 2>Even if the player is wrong, they still have to

0:30:21.160 --> 0:30:24.320
<v Speaker 2>protect the player. You know, you have to represent ray

0:30:24.440 --> 0:30:28.920
<v Speaker 2>Rice when things go bad. I mean, the NFL made

0:30:28.960 --> 0:30:32.200
<v Speaker 2>up a commissioner's exempt list with Adrian Peterson. We had

0:30:32.880 --> 0:30:36.520
<v Speaker 2>no idea. We were like, wait a minute, where's this list.

0:30:37.000 --> 0:30:39.360
<v Speaker 2>Anybody else on this list? All they have to do

0:30:39.440 --> 0:30:41.360
<v Speaker 2>is go, uh, I don't know, how about a commissioner's

0:30:41.360 --> 0:30:43.360
<v Speaker 2>exemp list? Yeah, it sounds good to me. All right,

0:30:43.400 --> 0:30:44.440
<v Speaker 2>what about you, Tommy?

0:30:44.520 --> 0:30:44.720
<v Speaker 13>Yeah?

0:30:45.040 --> 0:30:47.640
<v Speaker 2>Hey, Skippy Yeah okay. And next thing, you know, we

0:30:47.680 --> 0:30:53.760
<v Speaker 2>got a commissioner's exemp list, all right. You know their

0:30:53.840 --> 0:30:56.880
<v Speaker 2>goal is sometimes maybe to just say something and hope

0:30:56.880 --> 0:30:59.680
<v Speaker 2>that we don't go wait a minute, like sometimes we'll

0:30:59.720 --> 0:31:02.640
<v Speaker 2>go okay, that sounds good to me. Yeah, Paul, I.

0:31:02.600 --> 0:31:05.000
<v Speaker 4>Remember the day we came in and we read commissioner's

0:31:05.000 --> 0:31:06.920
<v Speaker 4>exempt list and we looked it up and we couldn't

0:31:06.920 --> 0:31:10.280
<v Speaker 4>find anything about it. It's like, yeah, double secret paration.

0:31:10.360 --> 0:31:11.200
<v Speaker 3>They just invented it.

0:31:14.760 --> 0:31:17.680
<v Speaker 2>I saw where Kyle Pitts got paid three years fifty

0:31:17.720 --> 0:31:21.120
<v Speaker 2>four million, third highest paid tight end behind George Kittle

0:31:21.200 --> 0:31:27.000
<v Speaker 2>and Trey McBride at eighteen million a year. We kept

0:31:27.040 --> 0:31:30.040
<v Speaker 2>waiting for Kyle Pitts to be great. When you're drafted

0:31:30.040 --> 0:31:35.040
<v Speaker 2>that high at that position. Eighty eight receptions second among

0:31:35.120 --> 0:31:39.240
<v Speaker 2>tight ends, nine twenty eight receiving yards, second and fourth

0:31:39.320 --> 0:31:43.400
<v Speaker 2>in yards after the catch. But I keep waiting for

0:31:43.480 --> 0:31:47.320
<v Speaker 2>my Falcons to put it all together. You know, London

0:31:47.400 --> 0:31:51.520
<v Speaker 2>and Pitts and Bijon and they're gonna win the NFC

0:31:51.600 --> 0:31:53.840
<v Speaker 2>South with a nine and eight record.

0:31:54.080 --> 0:31:56.920
<v Speaker 14>Yes, Marvin, Yeah, I'm still waiting for Kyle Pits to

0:31:56.960 --> 0:31:59.040
<v Speaker 14>be first team All Pro because when he came out,

0:31:59.080 --> 0:32:00.480
<v Speaker 14>we thought he was going to check change the tight

0:32:00.560 --> 0:32:03.080
<v Speaker 14>end position. Like, man, this is the next Shannon Sharp,

0:32:03.200 --> 0:32:07.840
<v Speaker 14>Kellen Winslow. He's like Jermaine Gresham that was drafted by

0:32:07.880 --> 0:32:10.920
<v Speaker 14>the Bengals out of Oklahoma. I thought he was going

0:32:11.000 --> 0:32:12.920
<v Speaker 14>to be the greatest tight end who ever lived.

0:32:15.960 --> 0:32:17.440
<v Speaker 2>Is Ben Watson still playing?

0:32:20.000 --> 0:32:20.600
<v Speaker 13>Ben Watson?

0:32:21.160 --> 0:32:24.440
<v Speaker 2>Didn't he have like twenty years in the NFL.

0:32:24.600 --> 0:32:27.200
<v Speaker 3>I think Marced's loss that's two decades.

0:32:27.720 --> 0:32:30.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but I would say that's a good draft pick

0:32:30.120 --> 0:32:33.280
<v Speaker 2>if you've got somebody who played, like whatever, eighteen years

0:32:33.320 --> 0:32:36.960
<v Speaker 2>Benjamin Watson. I thought Jimmy Graham was going to change

0:32:37.000 --> 0:32:42.200
<v Speaker 2>the tight end position. He came close, Yes.

0:32:41.600 --> 0:32:45.040
<v Speaker 4>Ben Watson sixteen seasons, but he retired in twenty nineteen.

0:32:46.160 --> 0:32:50.040
<v Speaker 2>Oh darn it. Okay, all right, last call for phone calls.

0:32:50.080 --> 0:32:52.320
<v Speaker 2>What we learn? What's in store tomorrow? Yes, Marvin.

0:32:52.720 --> 0:32:54.960
<v Speaker 13>The problem with Jimmy Graham was he wanted to be

0:32:55.000 --> 0:32:55.640
<v Speaker 13>a wide receiver.

0:32:56.760 --> 0:33:00.560
<v Speaker 2>I know, I know, Well that's where the money was.

0:33:01.120 --> 0:33:05.960
<v Speaker 2>I got it wasn't that where Davis from the forty

0:33:06.040 --> 0:33:12.120
<v Speaker 2>nine ers Burnon Davis out of Maryland. Yeah, he was

0:33:12.120 --> 0:33:14.560
<v Speaker 2>another one that those were the two best tight ends

0:33:14.560 --> 0:33:17.240
<v Speaker 2>at the time. You had to pick who's your tight end.

0:33:17.320 --> 0:33:19.840
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, well, one wants to be a wide receiver, Yes.

0:33:19.760 --> 0:33:23.680
<v Speaker 4>Paul Mercedes Lewis twenty seasons, including twenty twenty five. He

0:33:23.720 --> 0:33:25.960
<v Speaker 4>played twenty seasons at tight end.

0:33:27.440 --> 0:33:31.000
<v Speaker 2>I would say that that was a good draft pick, right.

0:33:31.800 --> 0:33:34.560
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if at the time did he get

0:33:34.560 --> 0:33:37.480
<v Speaker 2>an A or a B. You know, but if you're

0:33:37.560 --> 0:33:42.760
<v Speaker 2>lasting that long, who draft did the Bears draft Mercedes Lewis? Jacksonville?

0:33:44.160 --> 0:33:48.040
<v Speaker 2>Jacksonville was Jacksonville's it just getting into the NFL. At

0:33:48.040 --> 0:33:51.840
<v Speaker 2>the time, they were an expansion branch. They like expansion franchise.

0:33:51.920 --> 0:33:57.600
<v Speaker 2>Do you remember Cardell were running Keenan McCardell. They had

0:33:57.680 --> 0:34:03.640
<v Speaker 2>some talent, Mark Brunell, oh, man Fred Taylor, Yes, Mark.

0:34:03.480 --> 0:34:05.920
<v Speaker 13>That's a lot of haul of very very good.

0:34:06.720 --> 0:34:10.359
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, they had a few of Hallaververry. All right,

0:34:10.440 --> 0:34:13.160
<v Speaker 2>last call for phone calls? What we learn? What's store tomorrow?

0:34:13.400 --> 0:34:13.960
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0:34:26.200 --> 0:34:30.240
<v Speaker 2>New episode of the todcast That Means All Things Todd

0:34:30.280 --> 0:34:32.680
<v Speaker 2>Fritz as he sits down with Dylan, who plays the

0:34:32.760 --> 0:34:36.680
<v Speaker 2>role of therapist. We actually had the video of that

0:34:36.840 --> 0:34:39.160
<v Speaker 2>now not just audio, but now you can watch the

0:34:39.200 --> 0:34:42.520
<v Speaker 2>todcast and we went out. We got a nice sofa,

0:34:42.600 --> 0:34:45.960
<v Speaker 2>big German, got a nice sofa. Dylan has his chair

0:34:46.400 --> 0:34:49.560
<v Speaker 2>where it looks like a therapist's office, and he's able

0:34:49.640 --> 0:34:54.600
<v Speaker 2>to probe the whatever mind that Todd Fritz presents here

0:34:54.600 --> 0:34:57.960
<v Speaker 2>in the toodcast. Yes, Dylan, I was thinking for aesthetics,

0:34:58.000 --> 0:35:01.200
<v Speaker 2>smoking like a pipe, like an old pipe during our

0:35:01.600 --> 0:35:06.279
<v Speaker 2>old our sessions. What do you think? Okay? Uh, I

0:35:06.320 --> 0:35:07.840
<v Speaker 2>don't know if you need to smoke it, but you

0:35:07.880 --> 0:35:11.399
<v Speaker 2>could have it in your in your hand. You could

0:35:11.400 --> 0:35:14.560
<v Speaker 2>give the impression you're smoking it. That's there's no smoking

0:35:14.560 --> 0:35:20.440
<v Speaker 2>in the building. Yeah, but there's no smoking in the building. Okay, fine,

0:35:20.920 --> 0:35:22.880
<v Speaker 2>you got breaking you got breaking news.

0:35:22.880 --> 0:35:25.440
<v Speaker 4>Paul, I got a little basketball news for you hand.

0:35:26.600 --> 0:35:28.200
<v Speaker 4>You were talked about this a couple of months ago.

0:35:29.080 --> 0:35:33.480
<v Speaker 4>The LA Lakers star Austin Reeves intends to sign a

0:35:33.600 --> 0:35:37.000
<v Speaker 4>four year, one and five million dollar max contract to

0:35:37.040 --> 0:35:40.920
<v Speaker 4>return to the franchise. According to ESPN's and sham Sharani

0:35:41.120 --> 0:35:42.000
<v Speaker 4>intends to sign.

0:35:43.200 --> 0:35:49.160
<v Speaker 2>Yes, I would run towards that, uh four years, one

0:35:49.280 --> 0:35:55.879
<v Speaker 2>eighty five. Let's see, he declined his uh fourteen point

0:35:55.960 --> 0:35:59.640
<v Speaker 2>nine million player option for the new max deal. He

0:35:59.719 --> 0:36:04.000
<v Speaker 2>put a good numbers. You know, you might look at

0:36:04.080 --> 0:36:07.200
<v Speaker 2>him and say, you know, is that a legitimate number

0:36:07.239 --> 0:36:10.279
<v Speaker 2>two option here? And so far he has been. He've

0:36:10.320 --> 0:36:12.839
<v Speaker 2>had some big numbers, big games when Luca was out,

0:36:12.880 --> 0:36:16.520
<v Speaker 2>and I don't think he fits the uh, you know

0:36:16.600 --> 0:36:20.240
<v Speaker 2>that second guy that uh oh, you know, we always

0:36:20.239 --> 0:36:22.640
<v Speaker 2>got that guy to come in if this guy doesn't

0:36:22.640 --> 0:36:26.000
<v Speaker 2>do his job. But Austin Reeves has played really well.

0:36:26.200 --> 0:36:29.120
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Paul, it's the biggest contract ever for an undrafted

0:36:29.120 --> 0:36:32.400
<v Speaker 4>free agent, undrafted player in NBA history. So you know

0:36:32.480 --> 0:36:34.279
<v Speaker 4>how in the sixth round of the draft, they always

0:36:34.280 --> 0:36:37.040
<v Speaker 4>show Tom Brady in the NFL draft whenever the end

0:36:37.040 --> 0:36:39.240
<v Speaker 4>of the second round gets there, like, look at Austin

0:36:39.280 --> 0:36:40.720
<v Speaker 4>Reeves undrafted free agents?

0:36:41.880 --> 0:36:46.160
<v Speaker 2>Hmm. Here is a little taste of the toddcast where

0:36:46.200 --> 0:37:05.920
<v Speaker 2>he sits down on his weekly podcast. Got it, Well,

0:37:06.000 --> 0:37:11.440
<v Speaker 2>I don't hear it. I'm sure it's great, Todd. Yeah,

0:37:11.520 --> 0:37:14.680
<v Speaker 2>you guys, I'm sorry, yeah, sorry, Yes.

0:37:14.600 --> 0:37:16.600
<v Speaker 4>Paul, that's just a taste of the gold that's on

0:37:16.640 --> 0:37:17.240
<v Speaker 4>the toodcast.

0:37:18.680 --> 0:37:18.839
<v Speaker 2>Much.

0:37:18.960 --> 0:37:20.759
<v Speaker 3>That's perfect.

0:37:21.600 --> 0:37:25.040
<v Speaker 2>That that was awesome. That was awesome. But from what

0:37:25.160 --> 0:37:27.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm told, the toodcast is great.

0:37:27.600 --> 0:37:27.759
<v Speaker 9>Uh.

0:37:28.160 --> 0:37:29.960
<v Speaker 2>Maybe you just have to go to the todcast to

0:37:30.200 --> 0:37:32.800
<v Speaker 2>actually watch it and listen to it. Yes, Dylan, I

0:37:32.920 --> 0:37:35.600
<v Speaker 2>think Todd's being intentionally silenced. I don't think that was

0:37:35.640 --> 0:37:41.680
<v Speaker 2>an accident. Wow. Well, if he's being silenced, it's by Mario,

0:37:41.800 --> 0:37:43.840
<v Speaker 2>the eyes and ears of the program, because he's the

0:37:44.000 --> 0:37:45.040
<v Speaker 2>direct rio.

0:37:45.320 --> 0:37:45.600
<v Speaker 13>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, Sean and Indiana, Hi Sean, Hello, hello Dan. Uh.

0:37:53.200 --> 0:37:56.000
<v Speaker 8>Let me just say to you that The Grateful Dead

0:37:56.239 --> 0:38:00.840
<v Speaker 8>it's the greatest fan of all time. It's not even

0:38:00.840 --> 0:38:04.719
<v Speaker 8>in question. Shakedown Streets the album you've got to listen to tonight.

0:38:07.160 --> 0:38:08.800
<v Speaker 2>I want to listen to Shakedown Street.

0:38:10.680 --> 0:38:15.720
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, I get Shakedown Streets. It's a great album. Great album. Okay,

0:38:16.000 --> 0:38:19.920
<v Speaker 8>one in my lifetime. The Giants have one on my birthday,

0:38:20.320 --> 0:38:23.440
<v Speaker 8>and now the Knicks have one. I can die a

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<v Speaker 8>happy New York sports fan.

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<v Speaker 2>All Right, well, thank you, Sean. So the Grateful Dead's

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<v Speaker 2>the greatest band of all time because they put out

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<v Speaker 2>Shakedown Street. Hmmm, James in Chicago, Hi James, what's on

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<v Speaker 2>your mind?

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<v Speaker 15>And I had to call Leon. Regarding the emoji, the

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<v Speaker 15>sumbs up emoji in my household, that is known as

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<v Speaker 15>a pejorative emoji, meaning when me and my wife are

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<v Speaker 15>in conflict and we happen to text each other, we

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<v Speaker 15>send each other the thumbs up emoji, if for nothing else,

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<v Speaker 15>to incite rage in the other person.

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<v Speaker 2>Nice, nice, thank you, James. I'll give a thumbs up

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<v Speaker 2>to that. How about this day in sports history, Paul A.

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<v Speaker 4>Couple for you Dan nineteen twenty two, the American Professional

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<v Speaker 4>Football Association changed his name to the National Football League

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<v Speaker 4>the NFL. And how about this Right on q nineteen

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<v Speaker 4>seventy one, the NBA modified its four year eligibility rule

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<v Speaker 4>to allow for collegiate hardship cases.

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<v Speaker 2>How about this on this date In eighteen eighty two,

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<v Speaker 2>the umpire Richard Higham was expelled from baseball because for

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<v Speaker 2>his dishonesty he had links with gambling on games. Eighteen

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<v Speaker 2>eighty two. Pele was seventeen years of age in nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>fifty eight, he had three consecutive goals as Brazil beat

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<v Speaker 2>France in the World Cup Semis nineteen ninety two. Dan

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<v Speaker 2>Patrick Shut the Hell Up Shack was drafted by the

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<v Speaker 2>Orlando Magic oh In twenty ten, Jace John Isner and

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<v Speaker 2>Nicholas Muhutt at Wimbledon that when eleven hours, five minutes

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<v Speaker 2>began two days earlier on June twenty second, they didn't

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<v Speaker 2>play throughout the night, just letting you know, let's go

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<v Speaker 2>around the room see if we learned anything. Todd learn

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<v Speaker 2>anything today?

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<v Speaker 13>I did.

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<v Speaker 10>Dave Matthews said she was not influenced by the music

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<v Speaker 10>of The Grateful Dead or or Norrem Dylan.

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<v Speaker 2>You're gonna be listening to the Dead tonight around the fire. Yeah. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>the greatest album ever Shakedown Street.

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<v Speaker 13>Wow, Marvin, you spilled beer on Dave Matthews.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I did, what Dylan? It's not the best, but

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<v Speaker 2>it's great. No, it's not a great album. Paul Would

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<v Speaker 2>you learn you got your NBA vote back? Yes for

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<v Speaker 2>Fritzy Dylan, Marv Paula yours truly in the back room. Guys,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll talk to you tomorrow.