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Speaker 2: And we are underway. Hello, everyone, Welcome back to another

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Speaker 2: NFL episode of the award winning Action Network podcast. I'm

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Speaker 2: Matthew Friedman, the editor in chief of Fantasy Labs, and

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Speaker 2: with me are Sewn Corner and Chris Raybond. Shawn is

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Speaker 2: the Action Network Director of Predictive Analytics. Chris is a

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Speaker 2: And joining us is Dave Richard, a senior fantasy writer

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Speaker 2: at CBS Sports and a longtime titan in the industry. Dave,

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Speaker 2: thanks for joining us. How's it going.

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Speaker 5: Cards really respect what you do, Sean what you do, Chris,

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Speaker 5: what you do, Matt. You guys are all awesome. And

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Speaker 5: when I'm scrolling through Twitter and I catch your tweets,

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Speaker 5: they almost always make me think. And that's maybe one

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Speaker 5: of the highest compliments that I could give to the

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Speaker 5: three of you is that you guys give very thoughtful,

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Speaker 5: interesting fantasy tidbits that should make everybody think, make everybody

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Speaker 5: kind of second guests. Wow, maybe I am thinking the

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Speaker 2: Dave, I like what you said. You're going to be

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Speaker 2: a repeat guest on this podcast, just letting you know

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Speaker 5: Yeah. Absolutely. You were on the show.

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Speaker 2: Last year too, talking about the guys in your top fifty,

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Speaker 2: so it's great to have you back again this year.

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Speaker 2: Revisiting that topic. We have recently had some banger episodes.

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Speaker 2: We had Evan Silva, Enhearted Stenny Carter, Matt Harmon, Mike Taglier,

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Speaker 2: Graham Barfield, and Jake Seeley on the show. All those

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Speaker 2: episodes were great. Everyone check them out. Today with Dave,

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Speaker 2: we were talking about those high equity picks, the guys

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Speaker 2: in the top fifty, who we are taking, who we

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Speaker 2: are fading. And by the way, I should say that

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Speaker 2: you can access our rankings. You can look at the

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Speaker 2: guys in our top fifty and get our up to

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Speaker 2: the minute projections and our fantasy football too. Cheat at

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Speaker 2: would appreciate it. Gentlemen, let's get into it, Dave, I

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Speaker 2: want to ask you kind of big picture question of

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Speaker 5: I review a player from the season before, what a

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Speaker 5: and of course that's fluid, because the off season's fluid.

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Speaker 5: Things happen fast in the NFL. And I come up

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Speaker 5: then I just group those players together. I factor in

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Speaker 5: smaller details like who are they going to play next year,

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Speaker 5: Then they all have the same expectation. You're nitpicking to

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Speaker 6: So specifically, when it comes to your top fifty, do

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Speaker 5: I'm going to take more gambles in general, and I

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Speaker 5: are you doing. That's the stupidest thing I've ever seen.

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Speaker 5: And now everybody's taking Miles Sanders, and maybe not necessarily

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Speaker 5: I view him. One of these elite tier types of

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Speaker 5: and I think his ceiling is obviously higher than that.

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Speaker 5: He could end up being the third or fourth best

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Speaker 5: and his floor is obviously worse than that. I think,

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Speaker 5: him credit for. Maybe he's only twelve hundred yards and

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Speaker 5: eight touchdowns. Who knows, but I've got I put that

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Speaker 5: think Kenyan Drake had a number pretty close to that

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Speaker 5: I don't think necessarily about, well, he might get seventeen

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Speaker 5: just to me, weighing those factors doesn't make sense when

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Speaker 5: I just want to put one number on a guy

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Speaker 5: that's how I go about sorting the players and going

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Speaker 3: And ave you mentioned Miles Sanders.

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Speaker 4: Is he the one player that you've gotten the most

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Speaker 5: It's definitely someone else, and it's more like three or

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Speaker 5: four someone else's. Ronald Jones is one guy that I'm

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Speaker 5: taking a lot of in round five. I am encouraged

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Speaker 5: by how his offseason has gone. I spoke with his

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Speaker 5: I just think it is just a little extra help

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Speaker 5: Tyler Higbee. I loved his film from those last five games.

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Speaker 5: Everett after all. Forget it. I think Higbee is actually

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Speaker 5: remind me the same as Darren Waller, like Waller was

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Speaker 5: Different kype of feel for Higbee, but I do think

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Speaker 5: he's got that type of like physical rumbler tight end potential,

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Speaker 5: and there are a lot of metrics that win in

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Speaker 5: his favor. I'm drafting a lot of Darius Slayton because

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Speaker 5: that Slayton fits that bill quite a bit. And then

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Speaker 5: I was all over into Neil Gibson until until Darius

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Speaker 5: Geist got cut. And now everybody's on Antonio Gibson, so

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Speaker 5: where people are reaching for him. But I see potential

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Speaker 5: I think that Juju is getting overdrafted a little bit.

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Speaker 5: I'm just not sure that he's going to keep getting

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Speaker 5: I'm throwing out last year. Last year does not count

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Speaker 5: when it comes to Juju Smith Schuster. It really shouldn't

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Speaker 5: say things about James Conner like, well, another year where

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Speaker 5: he got hurt a little bit, and you know, Danta

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Speaker 5: Johnson was good, he wasn't great, And obviously he can't

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Speaker 5: that was it. But I think that Pittsburgh added a

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Speaker 5: lot of talent to their pass game, and I think

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Speaker 5: it easy for everybody else in that offense to do well.

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Speaker 5: I think there's going to be more wealth spread in

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Speaker 5: think the Browns offense is going to be conservative. I

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Speaker 5: Baker Mayfield. They built the offensive line to help the

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Speaker 5: Hooper to be a red zone factor. You watch Austin

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Speaker 5: Hooper is going to get a lot of touchdowns this year.

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Speaker 5: I don't know if he's going to have as many

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Speaker 5: So I have had Ezekiel Elliott at number two all

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Speaker 5: the schedule would probably favorite Saquon. And at that point

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm I'm Zeke all the way at number two.

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Speaker 6: As Dave mentioned, I think you know they're going to

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Speaker 2: That is unholy voodoo that you are putting towards Saquon

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Speaker 5: That about It's what I do.

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Speaker 5: Kelsey's over there. Yeah, it's a kamakaza game plan. Good

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Speaker 5: for you if you're going to do it to try

434
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Speaker 5: and slow down Edwards Hilaire, But defenses aren't going to

435
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Speaker 5: do that very often because defensive coordinators don't like losing

436
00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:32,920
Speaker 5: their jobs. So Edwards Hilaire is going to see a

437
00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:35,200
Speaker 5: lot of light boxes. That's going to work in his favor.

438
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Speaker 5: He's going to catch a lot of passes. Andy Reid's

439
00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:39,840
Speaker 5: running backs have averaged I think the numbers one hundred

440
00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:43,879
Speaker 5: and sixteen targets per season since Andy Reid got to

441
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Speaker 5: Kansas City. So that sounds good to me. You can

442
00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:48,480
Speaker 5: sign me up for Clyde Edwards Hilaire getting a lot

443
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Speaker 5: of that he does that work to do in terms

444
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Speaker 5: of pass protection. And yes, if Damian Williams were ready

445
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Speaker 5: to play this year, then that would certainly take Clyde

446
00:20:57,200 --> 00:20:59,360
Speaker 5: Webards Hilaire off the field. But now that he's decided

447
00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:02,320
Speaker 5: to very nobly, I might add take care of his mother.

448
00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:04,560
Speaker 5: He's got a sick mother. Damian Williams is not going

449
00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:08,240
Speaker 5: to play football. We're going to see Edwards Hilaire get

450
00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:11,600
Speaker 5: pressed into action more than probably the Chiefs might admit to,

451
00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:15,119
Speaker 5: you know, being okay with It's probably not going to

452
00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:19,520
Speaker 5: work out exactly how Eric Bienemy planned, how Andy Reid planned.

453
00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:22,760
Speaker 5: DeAndre Washington and Darryl Williams are going to be the

454
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Speaker 5: two guys that are going to be behind him. I

455
00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:27,159
Speaker 5: don't think they're taking half the snaps I think you're

456
00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:29,320
Speaker 5: to see Edwards Hilaire play and play a lot. The

457
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Speaker 5: coaches are obviously excited about him. They took a first

458
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Speaker 5: round pick. They took him with a first round pick,

459
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Speaker 5: and I think fantasy managers can feel good about taking

460
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Speaker 5: a running back that's got that again. Here are those numbers.

461
00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:44,000
Speaker 5: Fifteen hundred total yards, ten plus total touchdowns. I think

462
00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:47,760
Speaker 5: slightly more appealing than Miles Sanders because we know Miles

463
00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:51,400
Speaker 5: Sanders has to contend with Boston Scott, whereas we don't

464
00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:54,320
Speaker 5: know for sure just how much Washington and Williams, and

465
00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:57,479
Speaker 5: let's mention Darwin Thompson too, how much those guys are

466
00:21:57,480 --> 00:21:59,440
Speaker 5: going to play. My hunch is that they won't play

467
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Speaker 5: much as long as Edwards Hilaire does what is expected

468
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Speaker 5: of him. Here's the best part of all. You just

469
00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:07,880
Speaker 5: heard my spiel, and you know that Andy Reid's running

470
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Speaker 5: backs and this is part of the spiel, So I'm

471
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Speaker 5: not quite done yet. Andy Reid's running backs get a

472
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Speaker 5: ton of fantasy production, and he usually likes to settle

473
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Speaker 5: on one guy. All that in mind, everything that I've said,

474
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Speaker 5: if you're still not convinced, you can go in a

475
00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:23,840
Speaker 5: safer direction, because we're talking about somewhere. Honestly, when you're

476
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Speaker 5: drafting Edwards Hilaire in round one, it's not going to

477
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Speaker 5: be at first overall. It's probably not even gonna be

478
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Speaker 5: a fifth overall. It's gonna be somewhere between six and twelve.

479
00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:33,000
Speaker 5: And there are a bunch of safe wide receivers, and

480
00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:34,600
Speaker 5: there are some other running backs that have a little

481
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Speaker 5: bit more pedigree to them that you can feel more

482
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Speaker 5: comfortable beginning your team with than Edwards Hilaire. And I

483
00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:42,280
Speaker 5: don't think it's a colossal mistake if you say, you

484
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Speaker 5: know what, I'm not into Edwards Hilaire, I'm gonna go

485
00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:46,920
Speaker 5: with Joe Mixon, or I'm gonna go with Michael Thomas

486
00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:50,199
Speaker 5: or even DeVante Adams. I think it's okay. So if

487
00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:52,399
Speaker 5: you're not sold on Edwards Hilair, don't feel pressured to

488
00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:55,119
Speaker 5: take them at as high as six overall. But you

489
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Speaker 5: are giving up a running back that does have unreal

490
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Speaker 5: potential this.

491
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Speaker 2: Year, Sean, I think Dave right there mentioned some of

492
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Speaker 2: these numbers. Around fifteen hundred yards, around ten touchdowns, you know,

493
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Speaker 2: maybe fifty receptions. Those are all kind of the ballpark.

494
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Speaker 2: What are your thoughts on those numbers with Edwards layer.

495
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I have him closer to thirteen hundred and fifty

496
00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:22,680
Speaker 6: totally yards and yeah, eleven touchdowns. I think that's where

497
00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:25,680
Speaker 6: his value lies is just being in the Chiefs offense,

498
00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:29,080
Speaker 6: you're gonna have massive touch on upside. So I have

499
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Speaker 6: him ranked eighth overall. I still would take the top

500
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Speaker 6: six running backs and Michael Thomas over him, But I

501
00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:37,520
Speaker 6: think the differentiator why I would take him over at

502
00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:40,240
Speaker 6: Nick chubbor Joe Mixon is because he's going to hog

503
00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:42,679
Speaker 6: all the passing down work. You know, Chub and Mixon

504
00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:46,240
Speaker 6: they're kind of prone to losing some of that work,

505
00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:49,560
Speaker 6: which makes them a little bit more gamescript dependent, whereas

506
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Speaker 6: Hilaire is going to have massive upside every time he

507
00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:54,959
Speaker 6: steps on the field, and being in this offense, you know,

508
00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:58,399
Speaker 6: he only really needs fifteen to twenty touches at most

509
00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:00,959
Speaker 6: a game to have, you know, tough top three upside

510
00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:03,120
Speaker 6: in this offense. I think that plays a huge part too.

511
00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:07,439
Speaker 6: Is even if DeAndre Washington or Darwin Thompson chip in

512
00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:09,159
Speaker 6: a bit, which I don't even think they will, I

513
00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:11,880
Speaker 6: think he still has the potential to be a top

514
00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:13,480
Speaker 6: five back. So I think, you know, at this point

515
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Speaker 6: in the draft, go for the upside and take him

516
00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:17,520
Speaker 6: over these proven bets.

517
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Speaker 2: Raymond thoughts on Edwards Lair and where you think he

518
00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:22,280
Speaker 2: should be ranked.

519
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Speaker 4: For me, it's really between Edwards Aware or Austin Eckler

520
00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:28,760
Speaker 4: at that seven eight hole. Eckler is kind of in

521
00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:31,800
Speaker 4: that conversation for all those same reasons that Edwards Aware

522
00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:34,840
Speaker 4: is in terms of why we're just so excited. You know,

523
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Speaker 4: Eckler is a guy who's been extremely efficient his entire career.

524
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Speaker 4: He's in an offense that can really kind of like

525
00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:43,480
Speaker 4: Christian McCaffrey's can just all about him in a sense,

526
00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:45,320
Speaker 4: because you're going to have either tire Rode a low

527
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Speaker 4: volume pass or you're gonna have Herbert a young quarterback.

528
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Speaker 7: So I don't think you can go wrong with any

529
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Speaker 7: of those guys.

530
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Speaker 4: But that's really the only guy that I kind of

531
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Speaker 4: consider over Edward's Aware that maybe is not, you know,

532
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Speaker 4: in line with the consensus.

533
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Speaker 3: I would go both of those guys over a wide receiver.

534
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Speaker 4: And then when I go wide receiver, it's usually you know,

535
00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:07,040
Speaker 4: nine or ten, and it's usually going to be a

536
00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:09,159
Speaker 4: Tyreek hill for me because I am going for upside

537
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Speaker 4: at that spot, and I think Tyreek has the most

538
00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:13,640
Speaker 4: of it, So that's where.

539
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Speaker 3: I'm kind of at.

540
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Speaker 4: But I have Edwards Hilaire, yeah, right around about twelve

541
00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:19,840
Speaker 4: hundred something yards and double digit touchdowns as well. My

542
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:22,080
Speaker 4: projections tend to be a little more conservative, especially with

543
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Speaker 4: running backs miss games. Keep in mind Edward Hilaire is

544
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Speaker 4: my favorite back coming out of the draft Andy Reid.

545
00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:32,800
Speaker 4: With Damian Williams, big postseason, big stretch run in twenty eighteen,

546
00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:36,320
Speaker 4: a lot of carries. Coming into twenty nineteen, you could

547
00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:38,840
Speaker 4: tell he kind of held back on Williams a little

548
00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:40,720
Speaker 4: bit to keep him fresh for that stretch run.

549
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:42,520
Speaker 7: Another big stretch run, a lot of carries.

550
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Speaker 4: So with Edwards Hilaire, that is something to keep in mind,

551
00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:50,119
Speaker 4: Like we may see a bigger second half then we

552
00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:52,880
Speaker 4: see first half. And so I will say this, even

553
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Speaker 4: if you don't draft Edwards Alaire, keep him in mind

554
00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:58,680
Speaker 4: when it comes to trade targets early in the year.

555
00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:01,040
Speaker 4: And if you do, you draft Edwards Layer and he

556
00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:04,680
Speaker 4: starts slow, do not trade him.

557
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:08,359
Speaker 2: Raymon, you mentioned there Tyreek Hill as someone that you

558
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:12,600
Speaker 2: would kind of consider within that same range as Eckler

559
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:15,800
Speaker 2: and Edwards Hilaire and so I'm assuming he's your number

560
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:19,160
Speaker 2: two receiver, Dave, I'd like to get thoughts on your

561
00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:22,560
Speaker 2: number two receiver who you're looking at after Michael Thomas.

562
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:27,480
Speaker 5: It's Devanta Adams, and it's based on volume and Green

563
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:30,680
Speaker 5: Bay's passing game. Aaron Rodgers, say what you will about

564
00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:34,080
Speaker 5: Alan Lazard and their tight ends and everybody else. I

565
00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:36,840
Speaker 5: don't think that Aaron Rodgers has anybody that he trusts

566
00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:39,080
Speaker 5: as much as Adams. And the proof of that is

567
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:40,879
Speaker 5: last year. He almost had one thousand yards last year

568
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:44,359
Speaker 5: in twelve games, and Rogers loved having him on the field.

569
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:46,239
Speaker 5: You could tell that he just wasn't quite the same

570
00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:50,239
Speaker 5: quarterback get one amazing game without Devanta Adams. But I

571
00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:52,720
Speaker 5: think that he needs Adams to play big. I think

572
00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:55,840
Speaker 5: his red zone dominance is crucial, and I think his

573
00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:57,880
Speaker 5: target share is going to be the stuff that other

574
00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:00,720
Speaker 5: receivers dream of. So Adams to me is just it

575
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:03,399
Speaker 5: feels safe, and he's been a safe wide receiver in

576
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:06,520
Speaker 5: fantasy when he's been healthy for quite a while now.

577
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:08,920
Speaker 5: So I'm on board with him being the second best

578
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:10,280
Speaker 5: receiver to take on draft day.

579
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:13,480
Speaker 2: Sean, what about you, who's your number two receiver.

580
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:16,880
Speaker 6: I'm going with Tyre Kill and anything standard or half

581
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 6: PPR and especially best ball, but I'm with Dave. In

582
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 6: a full PPR format, I probably lean DeVante Adams. I

583
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:26,879
Speaker 6: think he definitely has the highest flour of all these

584
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:29,920
Speaker 6: white outs. But still in the first round, if I'm

585
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 6: taking a wide receiver, I'll probably want to lean towards

586
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:34,479
Speaker 6: Upside a little bit more, and that's why I'm going Tyry Kill.

587
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:38,720
Speaker 2: Can I make a case for Julio, Not that you

588
00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:42,280
Speaker 2: actually need to need to reach for him, because there's

589
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:44,480
Speaker 2: if you like him, there's a pretty good chance that

590
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:46,480
Speaker 2: you can get him in the second round on the

591
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:50,280
Speaker 2: way back, but just in terms of his actual production

592
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:53,360
Speaker 2: that we might expect throughout the season. By the end

593
00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:55,680
Speaker 2: of the year, I think there's a pretty good chance

594
00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:58,879
Speaker 2: that Julio's one of the top two guys if you

595
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:01,399
Speaker 2: just look at the production that he's had on a

596
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:05,119
Speaker 2: consistent basis over the past half decade. The offense that

597
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:07,879
Speaker 2: he's in, I'm expecting it to be pretty fast paced,

598
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:11,240
Speaker 2: pretty pass heavy. I kind of don't know why we

599
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 2: wanted to think that Julio comes pretty close to running

600
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:16,720
Speaker 2: it back again. Not to say that he should be

601
00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:21,159
Speaker 2: the second guy drafted, but he feels like someone who

602
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:23,199
Speaker 2: has a really good chance by the end of the

603
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:26,600
Speaker 2: season of being one of the top two producers at

604
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:29,000
Speaker 2: the position. Raymond, I feel like you're shaking your head

605
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:29,440
Speaker 2: over there.

606
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:31,159
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I agree.

607
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:34,120
Speaker 4: I think we're just bored with Julio, maybe because Julio

608
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:37,480
Speaker 4: has had one three hundred and ninety four yards or

609
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:40,280
Speaker 4: more in the last six seasons and DeVante Adams has

610
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 4: had one one thousand yard season over that spin, we're.

611
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:45,160
Speaker 3: Just kind of still waiting for Adams to do it.

612
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:47,600
Speaker 3: And he feels newer and like sexier.

613
00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:50,160
Speaker 4: But like to me, and I've said this before, like

614
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:52,960
Speaker 4: Tyreek Ku I get and Sean is kind of with me,

615
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:54,800
Speaker 4: So maybe it's not that out of line with consensus.

616
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 4: But I get how, you know that can be considered

617
00:28:57,760 --> 00:28:59,840
Speaker 4: a little bit of a reach. I get that Tyreek's

618
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 4: target volume, But the way I project and I'm guessing

619
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 4: Sean does too, is like kind of top down where

620
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:09,240
Speaker 4: we're projecting the quarterback stats and kind of assigning a

621
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:11,040
Speaker 4: certain percentage of targets to the receivers.

622
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 3: And that's why Tyreek Hill comes up so high. In

623
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:13,160
Speaker 3: my model.

624
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 4: But you know, for Julio, it's like if we're comparing

625
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 4: safety and kind of you know, high floors and high

626
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:22,480
Speaker 4: target floors and PPR floors, Like, how does it get

627
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:24,720
Speaker 4: safer than Julio. I mean, I get that he's a

628
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 4: couple of years older than DeVante, but he's averaging like

629
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 4: three more yards per catch than DeVante, Like they can

630
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 4: get the number of same number of targets, and DeVante

631
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:34,600
Speaker 4: just has to work so much harder for his yardage,

632
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:36,720
Speaker 4: and not due to any fault of his own, because

633
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:39,800
Speaker 4: he has turned into a ridiculous route runner, a guy

634
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 4: who gets open. I don't even know how he gets

635
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 4: open considering a triple team on every play, But his

636
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:46,240
Speaker 4: quarterback is.

637
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:46,800
Speaker 3: Just not as good.

638
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:48,440
Speaker 7: His offense is just not as good.

639
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:51,080
Speaker 4: So to me, it's like, I don't know, I feel

640
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 4: like we are kind of sweeping on Julio in that

641
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 4: DeVante Julio comparison, Like I feel like, if you're going

642
00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 4: for a safe receiver, I do actually go who we

643
00:29:59,880 --> 00:30:01,640
Speaker 4: are over Davonte.

644
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 5: So I'll tell you what some people might be nervous

645
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:06,920
Speaker 5: about from last year is that Julio was not a

646
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:11,080
Speaker 5: very consistent fantasy wide receiver. Now, of course you mentioned

647
00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 5: the totals at the end of the year. Yeah, he

648
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:16,200
Speaker 5: matches up with his previous seasons. But he got off

649
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:18,280
Speaker 5: to a good start and then he kind of fell

650
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:20,600
Speaker 5: off a little bit, and then he really didn't step

651
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 5: up again until after Calvin Ridley got hurt. So think

652
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:26,400
Speaker 5: about this, the Falcons trade Mohammed Sanu, Austin Hooper goes

653
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:30,120
Speaker 5: down with an injury. Russell Gage's Russell Gage. And then

654
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:32,680
Speaker 5: it took Calvin Ridley to come off the field for

655
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:34,800
Speaker 5: Julio to say, wait a minute, I'm here, I can

656
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 5: get targets, i can be amazing. And he finished the

657
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:41,480
Speaker 5: year strong, only six games with more than fifteen PPR points,

658
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:44,520
Speaker 5: And normally we love fifteen PPR points. That's type of

659
00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:46,120
Speaker 5: the number that you want to have in your fantasy

660
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 5: lineup each week. But he didn't do it that often,

661
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:51,600
Speaker 5: and he finished well outside of the top ten in

662
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:55,840
Speaker 5: terms of consistency rate at wide receiver. Versus Devanta Adams,

663
00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 5: who was second in the NFL in consistency in the

664
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 5: games he actually played, gave you those big fantasy points

665
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 5: all the time, and I think that that might resonate

666
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 5: with some fantasy managers, along with the fact that there's

667
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:11,160
Speaker 5: been so much buzz about Calvin Ridley and now he's

668
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 5: expected to take a huge step and maybe this is

669
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 5: the year where Calvin Ridley is Chris Godwin and Julio

670
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 5: Jones is Mike Evans. And there's nothing wrong with Mike Evans,

671
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 5: but it just means that the other receiver in Atlanta

672
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 5: is going to be better. And people might say, well,

673
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 5: I'm just gonna wait around and I'll get Calvin Ridley

674
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 5: and he might be better than Julio Jones. For the record,

675
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 5: well disclosure, I've got Julio ranked well ahead of Calvin

676
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 5: Ridley this year, but I do like both of them

677
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 5: to be very good. I just think Devanta Adams is

678
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:39,959
Speaker 5: a better bet and a week in, week out basis

679
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 5: for fantasy managers, and that's why I would take him

680
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 5: ahead of Julio at this point.

681
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 4: I do think consistency is important when you're kind of

682
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 4: nitpicking between these really good players in the first round.

683
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 4: But like the cutoffs are kind of like difficult for

684
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:56,800
Speaker 4: me to get behind because like, yeah, we can talk

685
00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:57,720
Speaker 4: about Julio.

686
00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 3: And like the lack of fifteen point games, but he

687
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:01,040
Speaker 3: actually he had under.

688
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 4: Ten PPR points just once last year, just once the

689
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:06,440
Speaker 4: year before, you know, So it's like it's like we're

690
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 4: just talking about like a couple of points, which from

691
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:13,160
Speaker 4: like from a mathematical standpoint, is not really going to

692
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:16,160
Speaker 4: be as predictive, like whether a guy scores like thirteen

693
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:19,040
Speaker 4: point six or fifteen point two or eleven point one.

694
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:22,240
Speaker 4: Like the bottom line is like he's he's coming out

695
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:25,080
Speaker 4: with fourteen hundred yards a year year and year out.

696
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 4: And like Devonte Adams, like we could if you do

697
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 4: the same math, but like use a different cutoff.

698
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 7: And again I think these cutoffs are arbitrary.

699
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 4: But DeVante Adams failed to get to ten PPR points

700
00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 4: three times and he only was healthy for twelve games, right,

701
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:40,960
Speaker 4: So it's like I think based on the cutoffs and

702
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:43,640
Speaker 4: based on the different consistency metrics, you can kind of

703
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:46,560
Speaker 4: tell these different stories. So like like with these guys,

704
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 4: I think you do have to kind of look at

705
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 4: the overall medium projection a little more. And I think

706
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 4: it's different from a case like Saquon versus Zeke, when

707
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:56,960
Speaker 4: when like Saquon, because of his running style, you know,

708
00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,160
Speaker 4: we've seen him just run like and because.

709
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 7: Of the offensive line, the line.

710
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 4: It's like, we've seen him and understand why he would

711
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:06,520
Speaker 4: have like a thirteen carry one yard game, whereas like

712
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:10,040
Speaker 4: whether DeVante or Julio has like eight point six or

713
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:12,479
Speaker 4: ten point three or twelve point three, at the end

714
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 4: of the year, it's like they're gonna be that's going

715
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 4: to add up to a similar amount, Like I think.

716
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 5: But you don't want to have a player, especially if

717
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:21,800
Speaker 5: you're talking about a first round pick or a second

718
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:25,600
Speaker 5: round pick, that does that too often. And I almost

719
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:27,320
Speaker 5: wonder if you were looking were going to say, well,

720
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 5: Julio's got a chance to have more smash games, the

721
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 5: games where he's got twenty five PPR points, thirty five

722
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 5: PPR points, just start them every week anyway. But it's

723
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 5: because of Julio Jones that you win a certain week,

724
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:40,120
Speaker 5: because he just goes off like he did in two

725
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 5: of his last three games last year. And I would

726
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 5: argue that is a reason for Julio and DeVante, and

727
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:47,720
Speaker 5: it's probably the number one reason why they're ranked where

728
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:50,480
Speaker 5: they're ranked, is because they they've got that potential to

729
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 5: go off and it almost doesn't matter who they play,

730
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 5: and everybody knows it and that's why they're being drafted

731
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:57,959
Speaker 5: so high. And I don't think anybody's going to look

732
00:33:57,960 --> 00:33:59,959
Speaker 5: at the Bonta Adams to say, well, he might be

733
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:01,960
Speaker 5: a little more consistent, but he's not going to have

734
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 5: as many crazy good games as Julio. So I'm gonna

735
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 5: take Julio, and I don't think they'll say the opposite

736
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:09,920
Speaker 5: for DeVante. I think it really just depends on how

737
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:12,440
Speaker 5: you like your receivers to play. The track record of

738
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:15,200
Speaker 5: Devonte Adams is just a little bit more consistent than

739
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:17,840
Speaker 5: Julio Jones. Both are great. I'm not gonna fault you

740
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 5: for taking Gulio ahead of Davante. I wouldn't fault you

741
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 5: for taking Julio ahead of Michael Thomas. But I do

742
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 5: think that there is room for Davante to catch more

743
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:30,400
Speaker 5: touchdown passes than Julio, and that's just been one of

744
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:31,879
Speaker 5: the weird things about Julio's career.

745
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:33,480
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, he can't.

746
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:35,800
Speaker 5: And I think maybe part of that is just because

747
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 5: teams say, Okay, Matt Ryan, you're gonna have to beat

748
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:39,799
Speaker 5: us with somebody else because we're going to double and

749
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:42,680
Speaker 5: triple team, and you know, shadow coverage over on Julio

750
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 5: and We're just not going to let him catch anything

751
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 5: inside the ten. But I think that's the one other

752
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:50,120
Speaker 5: factor on top of it is that we've seen Davonte

753
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 5: get double digit touchdowns on the regular not so much

754
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 5: with Julio Jones John.

755
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 2: So you have Michael Thomas obviously number one at the

756
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 2: receiving position, Tyreek number two, So I'm assuming it comes

757
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:06,400
Speaker 2: down at number three between Davante and Julio. Where are

758
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 2: you there?

759
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:11,879
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean they're basically tied. I would lean towards Davante.

760
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:14,960
Speaker 6: I mean, Dave mentioned it earlier, but I have a

761
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:18,719
Speaker 6: ton of calval Ridley, so I'm kind of hoping there's

762
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:22,840
Speaker 6: that kind of shift that Dave was mentioning. So I mean, honestly,

763
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 6: that's where I'm leaning there. But you guys all make

764
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 6: great points. I think Julio does tend to have more

765
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:32,280
Speaker 6: points come in just few games as opposed to Davante Adams.

766
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:33,919
Speaker 6: I think it does have to do with his lack

767
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 6: of touchdowns. He's not able to kind of chip in

768
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 6: just you know, a game where he's not seeing masa volume,

769
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 6: just get a touchdown and give you reasonable score.

770
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 7: So that's why he's a little more volatile.

771
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 6: But I think, you know, when it comes to a

772
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:49,440
Speaker 6: full PPR, I do like to attack this tier a

773
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:53,239
Speaker 6: bit heavier because one, you know, the position drives up

774
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 6: pretty quick. I don't like having a dig in let's

775
00:35:57,120 --> 00:36:00,399
Speaker 6: say the top forty wide receivers to finalize my start roster.

776
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 6: But also on a PPR, it extends the running back

777
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:07,400
Speaker 6: that class that we can draft from, So guys like

778
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 6: James White and Trey Cohen are now viable on PPR.

779
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:13,800
Speaker 6: So I think in PPR formats I do aggressively attack

780
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:17,239
Speaker 6: guys like Devontam's and even Julio Jones in certain situations.

781
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:20,400
Speaker 6: So I think, you know, we're splitting hairs here, But

782
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 6: if I gun to my head, I would go with Adams.

783
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 6: But either one is fine in my opinion.

784
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:27,719
Speaker 2: All right, So we talked about some of these wide receivers, Dave.

785
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 2: I want to get your thoughts on the tight ends

786
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 2: that we see going in the top fifteen. So it's

787
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 2: not always this clean, but in general, there's a good

788
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:38,239
Speaker 2: chance you see Travis Kelcey at the end of round one.

789
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 2: You often see George Kittle in round two, Mark Andrews

790
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 2: often in round three, and then Zach Ertz in round four.

791
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 2: Those are the big four guys where if you're investing

792
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:51,880
Speaker 2: in the position and you're paying up, it's one of

793
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 2: those guys, and then if you don't get one of them,

794
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:56,640
Speaker 2: maybe you decide to wait a while at the tight

795
00:36:56,719 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 2: end position. But out of those big four guys, which

796
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:01,960
Speaker 2: which one do you like the most right now? At

797
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 2: his ADP?

798
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:07,719
Speaker 5: Probably Ertz? And I'm not sure what ADP. What's the

799
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 5: ADP say for Artz? I don't know what site you're

800
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:11,800
Speaker 5: looking at for it.

801
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 2: It's in late in the fourth round.

802
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 5: Okay, so I'm probably gonna say Ertz. And I think

803
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:18,920
Speaker 5: one of the big differences between this year and last

804
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:21,960
Speaker 5: year when it comes to tight end is that there's

805
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:25,000
Speaker 5: a general sense that the position is a stronger one

806
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:28,359
Speaker 5: than it was in twenty nineteen. And for me, that

807
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:31,239
Speaker 5: means that I don't want to rush to overpay for

808
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:34,239
Speaker 5: a player at tight end when I know that I

809
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 5: can wait three more rounds or even four more rounds

810
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:40,239
Speaker 5: if I'm lucky to get zach Ertz, or in the

811
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:42,279
Speaker 5: case of Higbee, I can wait till maybe round seven,

812
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 5: round eight, maybe round nine to get him. There's more

813
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 5: flexibility there where I feel like I've got a weekly

814
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:51,359
Speaker 5: tight end that's going to deliver some good points, maybe

815
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 5: not as good as Kelsey or Kittle, but we're then

816
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:57,440
Speaker 5: talking about, well, is Kelsey going to be two or

817
00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 5: three points per game better than as zach Ertz er

818
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:02,200
Speaker 5: Tyler Higbee in a given waker? Is it going to

819
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 5: be more like seven or eight points better? And I

820
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 5: think it's going to be closer to two or three.

821
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:07,400
Speaker 5: I think it's kind of negligible. So I don't want

822
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:08,880
Speaker 5: to overpay for the position. I want to feel like

823
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:11,120
Speaker 5: I'm getting a steal at tight end, which is why

824
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:14,279
Speaker 5: I can't advocate for Kelsey in round one. I don't

825
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:17,759
Speaker 5: mind getting Kelsey in mid to late round two and

826
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 5: Kittle in late round two to early round three. I

827
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 5: think that that's the type of steal zone that you're

828
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 5: looking for. And Andrews and Ertz they vary for me

829
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:28,440
Speaker 5: based on format. I think Erth still catches more passes

830
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:31,320
Speaker 5: than Andrews can, which is why I will take him.

831
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:34,880
Speaker 5: I haven't ranked out of Andrews in full PPR, but

832
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 5: I know I can wait until when I see Mark

833
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 5: Andrews go off the board. The radar goes up, and

834
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:42,000
Speaker 5: I know that within about five to ten picks, Erz

835
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:43,960
Speaker 5: is going to go, and if I'm there, I'm going

836
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:46,239
Speaker 5: to take him because if I assuming I didn't get

837
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:48,279
Speaker 5: a tight end earlier, because I think that he is

838
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:50,240
Speaker 5: going to be worth that value, I think that feels

839
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:52,319
Speaker 5: like a steal. And if I don't get any of

840
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 5: those top four, it's cool because there's another four or

841
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 5: five tight ends that I'm okay using. Is my week

842
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:01,560
Speaker 5: one starter for sure? Well, it's better than that. It's

843
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:03,960
Speaker 5: not just as a week one starter. Let's call it

844
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 5: weeks one through seven starter. A guy that I can

845
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:08,480
Speaker 5: just stick with, roll with each week until they get

846
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 5: hurt or until they absolutely suck that they're gonna be

847
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 5: my tight end. So they're better than streamers, maybe not

848
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 5: quite as good or certainly not as pedigreed as Kelsey

849
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:21,479
Speaker 5: Kittle or Slash Andrews John.

850
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 2: Where are you on these tight ends? Which guy do

851
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:24,759
Speaker 2: you like the most? Right now?

852
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:28,799
Speaker 6: I would say, based on these rounds, probably Kittle in

853
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:32,360
Speaker 6: round two, especially if you falls to you when you're

854
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:34,880
Speaker 6: like picks one through six. Let's say, so you already

855
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 6: have a stead running back, Kittle comes to you, know,

856
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:40,480
Speaker 6: take an elite tight end and then you could probably

857
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:43,480
Speaker 6: either get another decent running back or start drafting wide

858
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:46,240
Speaker 6: receiver in round three. So I think it just makes

859
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 6: the most sense. Whereas you know, Kelsey, you have to

860
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:51,400
Speaker 6: you have to sacrifice quite a bit, and I honestly,

861
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 6: I don't think there's that big of a drop off

862
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:56,759
Speaker 6: between the two. So yeah, So if if I was

863
00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 6: going to take an elite tight end and probably be

864
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:02,360
Speaker 6: Kittle in round but again, this the more redraft leagues

865
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 6: I'm doing, the more I'm willing just to kind of

866
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:06,920
Speaker 6: wait to see if I get Dallas Goddard and if

867
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 6: I don't, I just stream the position. I think, you know,

868
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:13,879
Speaker 6: most leagues, you don't see people drafting more than one

869
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:16,280
Speaker 6: tight end, So you're gonna have guys like Mike Joseki,

870
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:18,959
Speaker 6: Austin Hooper, TJ. Hawkinson on the waiver wire every week.

871
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:21,120
Speaker 6: It's gonna be easier than ever to stream. And I

872
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:25,360
Speaker 6: just think this year specifically, it's gonna be way easier

873
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:28,360
Speaker 6: to kind of have that flexibility at tight end. You know,

874
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:30,879
Speaker 6: your your bench is gonna be more important than ever

875
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:33,000
Speaker 6: this year, so I think just having an added flexibility

876
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:36,240
Speaker 6: makes sense, especially given how deep tight end is this year.

877
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:39,239
Speaker 2: Rabon, how are you approaching tight end here?

878
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:43,800
Speaker 4: This is a position where I'm kind of I differ

879
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 4: from expert consensus a lot.

880
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:48,719
Speaker 3: I actually think that tight end isn't deep at all.

881
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:50,440
Speaker 4: And I don't mean that in the sense that there

882
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:52,920
Speaker 4: aren't like big talented players that you can get outside

883
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 4: the top four. I mean that the top four is

884
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:57,840
Speaker 4: so good that there could be a huge gap between

885
00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 4: Kelsey Kiddo, Andrews and ERTs and everybody else, and even

886
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:08,440
Speaker 4: in that next tier with Ingram Tyra, Higbee Waller those guys, right, Like,

887
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 4: it's even hard to differentiate between those three to some extent,

888
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 4: and then it gets even harder to differentiate between you know,

889
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 4: hayden Hurst and Gronk and Jared Cook and Dallas Goddard

890
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:21,279
Speaker 4: and Noah Fan and John Smith, like all these guys

891
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:25,400
Speaker 4: are like they can all be good, but the guys after,

892
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:27,640
Speaker 4: like the top seven, I don't think have a chance

893
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:29,959
Speaker 4: to catch five balls a game. Maybe hayden Hurst does

894
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 4: in that Hooper role. But so I think that it

895
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:35,399
Speaker 4: actually is very important to get a top four tight

896
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:36,960
Speaker 4: end and if not, to get one out of that

897
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 4: second tier. But for me, the answer to like who

898
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 4: do I like best at ADP is Mark Andrews, because

899
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:47,239
Speaker 4: there's just so much room for growth. And even if

900
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:48,920
Speaker 4: he just replicates what he did last year, he did

901
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:51,319
Speaker 4: a top four tight end, but there's so much room

902
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:54,239
Speaker 4: for growth in that he was targeted at once per

903
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:55,520
Speaker 4: every three routes last year.

904
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:56,239
Speaker 3: That's unheard of.

905
00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:59,799
Speaker 4: He only ran a rout on about fifty, you know,

906
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:02,960
Speaker 4: under sixty percent of the team's dropbacks per game. Uh,

907
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 4: you know, now they have no Hurst, They're probably going

908
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:07,920
Speaker 4: to run a little bit more traditional.

909
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 7: Of an offense.

910
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 4: Lamar Jackson has said he wants to throw more. This

911
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:13,280
Speaker 4: is a guy that you know, with Greg Roman, turned

912
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 4: from a guy who could barely throw football into the

913
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 4: league MVP passing the football, leading the league in touchdowns.

914
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:19,879
Speaker 3: Mark Andrews is his.

915
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:22,719
Speaker 4: Number one receiver, did it on low volume last year,

916
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 4: led led all tight ends touchdowns. And they're just such

917
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:28,640
Speaker 4: ridiculous upside for a guy who's getting targeted on thirty

918
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:31,399
Speaker 4: three point two percent of his routes and has only

919
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 4: run a round on barely half of the team's dropbacks.

920
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 4: That I think, like, if you got to look at it,

921
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:41,280
Speaker 4: like Kelsey and Kittle are going at cost is Earth's

922
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:43,840
Speaker 4: gonna go. Is Earth's gonna replicate Kelsey Kittle numbers?

923
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:44,600
Speaker 7: Probably not.

924
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:45,439
Speaker 3: I think people are.

925
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 4: Too low on him because he's also kind of like Julio,

926
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 4: just un sexy and that exciting at this point.

927
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:51,719
Speaker 3: But he's gonna do his thing.

928
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:54,040
Speaker 4: But like Mark Andrews, to me, is that guy that

929
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:56,759
Speaker 4: you can get in round three that could put up

930
00:42:56,800 --> 00:43:01,640
Speaker 4: those weight round one early round two Kelsey Kittle numbers Raymond.

931
00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:04,799
Speaker 2: I just got to say the disrespect to uh to

932
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson to say that he was a guy who

933
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:10,320
Speaker 2: could barely throw the football and that his offensive coordinator

934
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:11,879
Speaker 2: was transformed him.

935
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 3: Uh oh no, No, like Lamar's is my guy. He

936
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:18,120
Speaker 3: did his thing. But I'm saying, like Greg Roman is

937
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 3: still there is what I'm trying to say. Greg Roman.

938
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:22,240
Speaker 4: You know, look at con Kaepernick, look at Tyrod Taylor.

939
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 4: The work Greg Roman has been able to do with

940
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:25,920
Speaker 4: these guys, turning them from guys that we thought of

941
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 4: his project into legit quarterbacks. You know, you're like Covid

942
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:34,160
Speaker 4: or not, you still have another offseason of Lamar and Roman.

943
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:36,600
Speaker 4: I'm saying it could be even better. That's what I'm saying.

944
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:43,759
Speaker 2: Great cornerback play right there, look good?

945
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:44,200
Speaker 3: All right?

946
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 2: Well, Dave Raymond there mentioned Lamar Jackson, and you know

947
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:50,960
Speaker 2: people are obviously looking at him and thinking, do I

948
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 2: invest in him this year with the second round pick?

949
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:57,080
Speaker 2: The same with Patrick Mahomes. How are you approaching those

950
00:43:57,080 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 2: two players? One, I guess, do you think they should

951
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:01,839
Speaker 2: be going in the second round? And then two are

952
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:04,719
Speaker 2: are you actually willing to take them in the second round?

953
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:06,359
Speaker 2: Because there's kind of a difference there.

954
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:10,760
Speaker 5: So I feel so dumb every time I answer this question,

955
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:15,239
Speaker 5: because Mahomes and Jackson are those types of players that

956
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:17,040
Speaker 5: can win you your league. They can will you to

957
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:20,439
Speaker 5: victory some weeks. Because we're talking about Julio Jones only

958
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:23,719
Speaker 5: got your fifteen PPR points six times. Well, these guys

959
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:26,920
Speaker 5: can get you double that maybe every week. They're unbelievable

960
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:29,719
Speaker 5: and they can just do incredible things with the football.

961
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:34,080
Speaker 5: Mahomes with his arm, Jackson with his arm and his legs.

962
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:37,799
Speaker 5: And it just feels dumb to say, well, these guys

963
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 5: that can get you thirty points per week shouldn't be

964
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 5: taken in round two. So why is that? It's because

965
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:44,239
Speaker 5: of supplying to man, if you're in a league that

966
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 5: starts only one quarterback. You know that the position is

967
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:49,920
Speaker 5: even deeper than tight end, even deeper than wide receiver.

968
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:54,319
Speaker 5: Literally eighteen quarterbacks that I'd be okay starting week one. Now,

969
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 5: they're not all going to put up thirty points per

970
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:59,000
Speaker 5: week like Mahomes and Jackson have the potential to do.

971
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:02,239
Speaker 5: But I can draft them a lot later in the

972
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 5: spaces where I would have to draft Mahomes and Jackson,

973
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 5: which is some leagues. They're going in round one one

974
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:11,839
Speaker 5: quarterback leagues. Round one way too soon, but round two

975
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 5: is their ADP. Think about what I'm passing up there.

976
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:17,759
Speaker 5: I'm passing up some really good number two running backs

977
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:20,920
Speaker 5: or really potentially number one running backs, certainly number one

978
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:23,880
Speaker 5: wide receivers, and certainly one of the top two tight ends.

979
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:27,920
Speaker 5: And in a fantasy league where you gotta start two

980
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 5: running backs, you gotta start two wide receivers, maybe three,

981
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:33,600
Speaker 5: maybe you've got a flex or two to start. I

982
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:36,960
Speaker 5: need those players on my roster first, and I know

983
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:39,479
Speaker 5: that these quarterbacks can put up huge numbers. But once

984
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:41,920
Speaker 5: I put them on my team in round two, I

985
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:45,480
Speaker 5: feel like I have a harder time finding players in

986
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:50,440
Speaker 5: rounds five through ten that I really consider as potential

987
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:53,359
Speaker 5: starters for my team, whereas the quarterbacks that go in

988
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:56,359
Speaker 5: that range are no brainer starters for my team. I'm

989
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:58,279
Speaker 5: going to say the same thing that I said about

990
00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 5: tight ends for quarterbacks. You want to see like you're

991
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 5: stealing one on draft day, like you're ripping off the

992
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 5: other people in your league right under their noses. They

993
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 5: go and get Patrick Mahomes in round one or two,

994
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:10,239
Speaker 5: they get Jackson round one or two, and you just

995
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:12,319
Speaker 5: wait and wait and wait, and then I promise you

996
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:14,839
Speaker 5: it's going to be a Drew Brees or a Tom

997
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:17,239
Speaker 5: Brady or a Matt Ryan that comes out of value,

998
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 5: and you're gonna be like a cartoon wolf or something

999
00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:21,640
Speaker 5: where you like, you rub your eyes and your eyes

1000
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:24,320
Speaker 5: get huge, and you go, I can't believe it's there.

1001
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:26,759
Speaker 5: And it's not a cartoon. It's real life. It's your

1002
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:28,560
Speaker 5: fantasy team. I don't know if that means real life

1003
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:31,200
Speaker 5: or not. But you've got them on your squad and

1004
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:33,400
Speaker 5: it's a tremendous value and you'll be happy to have.

1005
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:36,279
Speaker 5: I got the starter covered at quarterback, and I spent

1006
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:38,799
Speaker 5: that second round pick at a different position. That will

1007
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:40,360
Speaker 5: help me feel good about my lineup.

1008
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:43,520
Speaker 2: All right, Well, if you're looking to wait at the

1009
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:47,960
Speaker 2: quarterback position. I'm imagining you're not going to be investing

1010
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 2: all that much in some of these other quarterbacks who

1011
00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:52,480
Speaker 2: are going. You know, in the bottom half of the

1012
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:56,439
Speaker 2: top fifty, you've got Dak Prescott, Deshaun Watson, Kyler, Murray,

1013
00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 2: Russell Wilson. I think those four guys kind of form

1014
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:02,960
Speaker 2: their own tier between the top two of Lamar and

1015
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 2: Mahomes and then all of the other quarterbacks who follow

1016
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 2: out of those four quarterbacks, is there one in particular

1017
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:13,040
Speaker 2: who stands out to you that where if you were

1018
00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:15,800
Speaker 2: to invest in a quarterback in that draft range, it

1019
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 2: would be this guy.

1020
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:19,360
Speaker 5: So it's round six and all four guys are on

1021
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:22,280
Speaker 5: the board, and the running backs that left are horrible,

1022
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:24,279
Speaker 5: and the wide receivers that are left could just as

1023
00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:27,360
Speaker 5: easily fall to me in round seven. A situation like that,

1024
00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 5: I'm looking at Dak Prescott and I say, the weapons

1025
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:34,840
Speaker 5: around him are too good. The offensive line is too good,

1026
00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:37,600
Speaker 5: the running back and catch passes. There's two of them

1027
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:40,440
Speaker 5: now that can catch passes. It's too good. I know

1028
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:43,880
Speaker 5: he's not as talented of a quarterback or as skilled

1029
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:46,680
Speaker 5: as of his quarterback as the other ones that you mentioned,

1030
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:50,360
Speaker 5: but I do think that he's got the potential to

1031
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:52,879
Speaker 5: maybe even do better than he did last year, which

1032
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:56,920
Speaker 5: sounds crazy, but I am a big fan of what

1033
00:47:57,040 --> 00:48:01,160
Speaker 5: Dallas has done this offseason and before the didn't feel

1034
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 5: quite this way about Dak Prescott, bad Ceedee, Lamb and

1035
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:07,880
Speaker 5: everything else is in place, and I'm really glad that

1036
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:10,200
Speaker 5: they kept Kellen Moore as their offensive coordinator because he's

1037
00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:12,960
Speaker 5: the one that really brought Dak out. Yeah, I think

1038
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:14,839
Speaker 5: that Dak Prescott's the one that I would pick first

1039
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:16,880
Speaker 5: from that group before Sean.

1040
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:19,440
Speaker 2: Were you on these four quarterbacks, which guy do you

1041
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:20,000
Speaker 2: like the most?

1042
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's Dak for me, But they're all really close.

1043
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:26,279
Speaker 6: So again, this is like Dave said, they'd make it

1044
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:29,760
Speaker 6: to you in round six. So typically it's just whoever

1045
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:33,680
Speaker 6: kind of falls, and Dak rarely falls around six. Oftentimes

1046
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:37,320
Speaker 6: it's Russell Wilson or even Deshaun Watson that is typically

1047
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:40,200
Speaker 6: the last QB available in this tier, and that's when

1048
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:42,680
Speaker 6: I like to attack. But if all four on the board,

1049
00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:45,920
Speaker 6: I typically let the league start the run on quarterback

1050
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 6: and hopefully one of them make it back to me.

1051
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 6: But if they don't, I'm fine. That means I'm probably

1052
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:55,080
Speaker 6: hunting the position altogether and streaming it depending on league type.

1053
00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 6: So this is the last tier for me. So it's

1054
00:48:57,000 --> 00:49:00,279
Speaker 6: pretty critical, but I would definitely rank Dak top of

1055
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:00,680
Speaker 6: this tier.

1056
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:03,080
Speaker 2: Ravon, who do you have at the top of this tier?

1057
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:06,520
Speaker 4: I tend to win Watson every year of his career

1058
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:10,200
Speaker 4: top four production. Uh you look at the the wails

1059
00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:13,400
Speaker 4: of DeAndre Hopkins, and I think, to a casual observer,

1060
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:15,479
Speaker 4: it's like, oh man, that's not good.

1061
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 7: That can't be good.

1062
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:19,759
Speaker 4: DeAndre Hopkins averaged eleven point something yards per catch last year,

1063
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:23,439
Speaker 4: like he wasn't, you know, necessarily boosting Watson's stat line.

1064
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:25,360
Speaker 4: And you look at the receivers they haven't used in

1065
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:30,160
Speaker 4: this year. Will Fuller, Brandon Cooks, Kenny Stills, Randall Cobb

1066
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:32,040
Speaker 4: is going to be, you know, probably the first true

1067
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:34,319
Speaker 4: slot receiver he's had. But focused on those other three,

1068
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:38,040
Speaker 4: those are all downfield guys. Watson's numbers could actually be

1069
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:42,919
Speaker 4: better this year, not necessarily because the offense is better

1070
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:45,200
Speaker 4: for not for losing Hopkins, but just because he's thrown

1071
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:48,239
Speaker 4: he's just swinging it down field more. Uh So, that

1072
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:50,560
Speaker 4: combined with the fact that you look at like compared

1073
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:55,480
Speaker 4: Dak to uh Watson and rushing and rushing yards is

1074
00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:57,680
Speaker 4: pretty much the most sticky year to year stat in

1075
00:49:57,719 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 4: terms of correlation for a quarterback. Sean Watson had you know,

1076
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:05,520
Speaker 4: four hundred and thirteen rushing yards last year to Dak's

1077
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:08,799
Speaker 4: two hundred and seventy seven, so you know every year.

1078
00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:11,840
Speaker 4: Dak is really good at turning those carries in a

1079
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:15,440
Speaker 4: goal into touchdowns around the goal line, especially, but Watson

1080
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:18,960
Speaker 4: is probably gonna rush for more yards. So Leen Watson,

1081
00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:20,560
Speaker 4: I am very high on Dak. I don't think you

1082
00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:22,279
Speaker 4: can go wrong with any of those guys in like

1083
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:24,399
Speaker 4: Murray is the Murray is the guy that I think

1084
00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:27,239
Speaker 4: is the most dangerous, Like I think he's actually even

1085
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:30,160
Speaker 4: though we were most excited about him, I think Russell

1086
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:33,799
Speaker 4: Wilson's just so good and just any you know, potential

1087
00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:37,120
Speaker 4: increase in volume that could happen just puts Russell Wilson

1088
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:40,600
Speaker 4: right in that conversation for you know, top for the

1089
00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:44,040
Speaker 4: third spot. So I started out a little more down

1090
00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:47,120
Speaker 4: on Russ, but I've kind of come around thirty touchdowns,

1091
00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:48,440
Speaker 4: you know, for the last five years.

1092
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:49,440
Speaker 7: He's just too.

1093
00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:53,000
Speaker 4: Good and and he's so and he's what we want

1094
00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:56,000
Speaker 4: Kyro to be. So that's how I kind of happened.

1095
00:50:57,200 --> 00:51:01,480
Speaker 2: Right, Dave. There are a number of really good receivers

1096
00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:06,440
Speaker 2: available and rounds three, rounds four, and to me, that

1097
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:10,040
Speaker 2: feels like a really good sweet spot to be hitting

1098
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:12,839
Speaker 2: that position. But of course there are also some really

1099
00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:16,640
Speaker 2: intriguing running backs available in that range as well. Earlier

1100
00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:20,839
Speaker 2: you mentioned Ronald Jones as a guy that you're interested in,

1101
00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:25,120
Speaker 2: who that we have not talked about right now in

1102
00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:27,640
Speaker 2: the top fifty. Do you want to spend some time

1103
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:30,560
Speaker 2: talking about someone that you're really excited about.

1104
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:33,520
Speaker 5: At wide receivers specifically, or can it be any position,

1105
00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:37,440
Speaker 5: any position in the top fifty who I'm excited about

1106
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:39,760
Speaker 5: that we haven't spent a lot of time talking about yet.

1107
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:43,560
Speaker 5: I need to hear. And maybe this is just more

1108
00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:47,160
Speaker 5: therapy for myself than anything else, and I'm hoping I

1109
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:50,760
Speaker 5: get it. I need some other opinions on Cooper Cup,

1110
00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:53,719
Speaker 5: because Cooper Cup last year was really good. He had

1111
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:57,319
Speaker 5: over ninety catches, big yardage, big touchdowns. He's proven to

1112
00:51:57,360 --> 00:51:59,160
Speaker 5: be a go to guy for Jared Goff in the

1113
00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:02,640
Speaker 5: red zone, and I still have him ranked pretty high.

1114
00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:04,360
Speaker 5: And I know that there are a lot of smart

1115
00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:07,160
Speaker 5: people out there that say, well, Cooper Cup didn't finish

1116
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:10,640
Speaker 5: the year strong. There's questions about that. There's questions about

1117
00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:14,480
Speaker 5: this entire RAMS offense, what impact Habee could have on him,

1118
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:16,840
Speaker 5: the fact that Robert Woods isn't going to have so

1119
00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:21,320
Speaker 5: few touchdowns again of the year after that, Cooper Cup

1120
00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:24,880
Speaker 5: is I think he's undoubtedly a top fifty pick, but

1121
00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:28,480
Speaker 5: is he a top thirty pick? And I for now

1122
00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:31,640
Speaker 5: think he is. I get him in round four sometimes

1123
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:34,200
Speaker 5: and I go, what are these nunniks who I'm drafting

1124
00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:37,200
Speaker 5: with thinking letting a guy like this fall. But Cooper

1125
00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:39,960
Speaker 5: Cup is someone that I think deserves some attention, maybe

1126
00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:42,480
Speaker 5: put under the microscope a little bit, and hoping that

1127
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:44,840
Speaker 5: Sean or Chris just has a completely different take on

1128
00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:48,439
Speaker 5: him that I just need that counter argument to Dave.

1129
00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:50,760
Speaker 2: I'm with you. Cooper Cup is one of those guys

1130
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:54,120
Speaker 2: I love getting in round three or round four, and

1131
00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:57,520
Speaker 2: I think he has a very high floor. And although

1132
00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:00,640
Speaker 2: the Rams in the second half of the season went

1133
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:04,560
Speaker 2: to two tight end sets a little bit more, still,

1134
00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:07,880
Speaker 2: they played with three wide receivers at one of the

1135
00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:10,480
Speaker 2: highest rates in the league last year, so I'm still,

1136
00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:12,560
Speaker 2: you know, pretty bullish on the idea that we could

1137
00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:15,800
Speaker 2: see Cooper Cup getting a lot of snaps in the slot,

1138
00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:19,759
Speaker 2: which is really where he feasts. But Sean, give us

1139
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:20,840
Speaker 2: your thoughts on Cup.

1140
00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:24,760
Speaker 6: Yeah, he's a bit of a enigma because, like you mentioned,

1141
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:27,840
Speaker 6: whenever they switched to two tight end sets in the

1142
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:29,960
Speaker 6: second half, and whenever they ran those, they took him

1143
00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:32,000
Speaker 6: off the field. He wasn't even on the field. So

1144
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:35,080
Speaker 6: I think they'll they'll work in the off season to

1145
00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:37,360
Speaker 6: get him on the field those sets. So I do think,

1146
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:40,360
Speaker 6: you know, he's potentially a top thirty wide receiver, but

1147
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:44,040
Speaker 6: he's part of this massive tier where I kind of

1148
00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:46,520
Speaker 6: just take guys that fall to me. But you know,

1149
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:49,640
Speaker 6: he's in the Calvin Ridley range, so unfortunately, I do

1150
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:52,799
Speaker 6: kind of lean towards Ridley, so I don't have as

1151
00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:54,600
Speaker 6: much Cup. But again, it's one of those things where

1152
00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:56,719
Speaker 6: people take Cup. I don't fault them at all. I think,

1153
00:53:57,000 --> 00:53:59,840
Speaker 6: like you mentioned, he has a touch upside without Brandon,

1154
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:02,480
Speaker 6: I mean, the target chair is going to be even

1155
00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:04,680
Speaker 6: more funneled to him and Robert Wood. So I think

1156
00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:07,120
Speaker 6: he's he's a pretty safe pick. I wouldn't really look

1157
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:10,440
Speaker 6: too much into his uches usage last year. I think

1158
00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:13,080
Speaker 6: they will figure out a way to make that work

1159
00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:15,120
Speaker 6: and have him on on the field over ninety five

1160
00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:17,319
Speaker 6: percent of snaps because that was kind of a weird

1161
00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:20,320
Speaker 6: thing last year. He was able to kind of support

1162
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:22,960
Speaker 6: his fancy stats by you know, scoring touchdowns still. But

1163
00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:25,839
Speaker 6: I think they'll make it work and he's borderline wide

1164
00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:26,439
Speaker 6: receiver one.

1165
00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:29,759
Speaker 2: For me, rabon, Are you a little more pessimistic on

1166
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:30,359
Speaker 2: Cooper Cup?

1167
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:31,240
Speaker 3: Oh?

1168
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:33,160
Speaker 4: I was like the first one I was saying in

1169
00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:35,880
Speaker 4: like February, Cooper Cup was like a top twelve receiver.

1170
00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:38,200
Speaker 4: You were more down on Cup than I and you

1171
00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:41,040
Speaker 4: you came around and said, hey, like I love Cup Now.

1172
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:41,879
Speaker 3: I mean, I.

1173
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:45,440
Speaker 4: Think it's people are overthinking it. Cooper Cup was eleventh

1174
00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:48,880
Speaker 4: in PPR half PPR last year. In twenty eighteen, here's

1175
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:52,120
Speaker 4: his aco comes back. You know, he's he's like he's

1176
00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:55,799
Speaker 4: top ten again. Like so it's like, what what what

1177
00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:57,560
Speaker 4: are we really looking for with Kup?

1178
00:54:57,719 --> 00:54:59,480
Speaker 3: He had a down second half of the year.

1179
00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:01,919
Speaker 4: He scored five touchdowns, one in each game to close

1180
00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:03,640
Speaker 4: out the year, he had a touchdown and you know,

1181
00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:06,120
Speaker 4: like I know, touchdowns are not as easy to repeat

1182
00:55:06,120 --> 00:55:09,600
Speaker 4: but he's been to consistent touch touchdown score, still has

1183
00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:12,520
Speaker 4: the same quarterback since he entered the league. They're best friends.

1184
00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:16,680
Speaker 4: He's the best receiver on the rams easily to me.

1185
00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:18,960
Speaker 4: Like Robert Woods is good, but Robert Woods took five

1186
00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:21,960
Speaker 4: years to get good. Cooper Cup was good upon entering

1187
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:24,879
Speaker 4: the league. So I am not worried at all about

1188
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:27,000
Speaker 4: a receiver that's gonna you know, that's posted you know,

1189
00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:29,680
Speaker 4: two top depending on your scoring system, we'll say top

1190
00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:32,800
Speaker 4: fifteen per game finishes over the last two years.

1191
00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:34,799
Speaker 3: Am I worried at all about him?

1192
00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:34,920
Speaker 6: No?

1193
00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:37,280
Speaker 3: Would I take him off the field with my playoff

1194
00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:38,239
Speaker 3: hope slipping.

1195
00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:43,240
Speaker 4: Away with with Tyler Higbee going absolute bananas down the stretch.

1196
00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:45,680
Speaker 3: Absolutely, But you know what happens with Kupp.

1197
00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:47,759
Speaker 4: It's like you have the it's like every tier you

1198
00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:50,239
Speaker 4: have these un sexy guys, and in that first tier,

1199
00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:52,080
Speaker 4: I think it's like Julio at this point, he's just like,

1200
00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:53,160
Speaker 4: we're so bored of it.

1201
00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:54,960
Speaker 7: At tight end, it's like zach Her just like.

1202
00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:58,160
Speaker 4: Forard, I think we're already bored with Cooper Cup, like

1203
00:55:58,280 --> 00:56:00,680
Speaker 4: or you know, he's just not as sexy as like,

1204
00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:03,560
Speaker 4: you know, an up and coming dj more or like

1205
00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:06,320
Speaker 4: the allure of like Odell Beckham returning.

1206
00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:06,960
Speaker 7: To the past glory.

1207
00:56:07,120 --> 00:56:08,760
Speaker 4: So it's like we just kind of look at Cooper

1208
00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:11,799
Speaker 4: Cupper are like, nah, okay, you know what I mean.

1209
00:56:11,840 --> 00:56:14,520
Speaker 4: But like in reality and like I'm really excited about

1210
00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:18,040
Speaker 4: Calvin Ridley, but like Cooper Cup, is this everything that Calvin.

1211
00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:18,920
Speaker 7: Ridley could give us.

1212
00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:22,560
Speaker 4: There's really no difference, you know, it is in terms

1213
00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:26,000
Speaker 4: of what the two could produce, touchdown lines, volume, volume,

1214
00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:28,000
Speaker 4: wiz Cup might even have a little more upside only

1215
00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:30,560
Speaker 4: because he plays in a slot and that position in

1216
00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:33,560
Speaker 4: a Sean McVay offense, that's the position that's getting schemed dope,

1217
00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:35,759
Speaker 4: you know, more so than even Woods.

1218
00:56:35,560 --> 00:56:37,080
Speaker 7: It's it's Cup getting schemed dope.

1219
00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:38,920
Speaker 5: So I'm not gonna get what I wanted. I'm not

1220
00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:40,880
Speaker 5: gonna get the counter argument a Cup, which means I

1221
00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:43,680
Speaker 5: can't I can't hammer the counter argument with one of

1222
00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:46,680
Speaker 5: my favorite stats on Cooper Cup his last twenty four games,

1223
00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:50,160
Speaker 5: he's caught sixteen touchdowns. The Rams lost todig Girl, they

1224
00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:53,000
Speaker 5: didn't lost Tigererley. They told Todd Gurley, lose our number.

1225
00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:55,799
Speaker 5: And he has fourteen touchdowns. Walk out the door from

1226
00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:59,279
Speaker 5: last year. I don't know if Darryl Henderson and Cam

1227
00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:01,799
Speaker 5: Akers are gonna make up all those touchdowns or even

1228
00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:03,799
Speaker 5: have the opportunity to make up those touchdowns. I think

1229
00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:07,560
Speaker 5: Cooper Cup can sink his teeth into more touchdowns this year. Absolutely,

1230
00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:08,480
Speaker 5: I'm a big fan of his.

1231
00:57:09,160 --> 00:57:12,120
Speaker 4: You know, it's so silly, right, like like when the

1232
00:57:12,239 --> 00:57:15,160
Speaker 4: like consensus or the industry likes the guy, and now

1233
00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:17,040
Speaker 4: they'll say one thing, but it's like, since when has

1234
00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:18,880
Speaker 4: scoring touchdowns been a bad thing?

1235
00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:20,680
Speaker 3: It's like like the biggest knock.

1236
00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:22,080
Speaker 4: I hear on the Cup is like, well, it's like

1237
00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:24,960
Speaker 4: we all get that touchdowns are volatile, but like you

1238
00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:28,120
Speaker 4: rather have the guy that consistently scores them and the

1239
00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:31,840
Speaker 4: guy that doesn't, the guy that you're waiting for to regrets,

1240
00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:32,440
Speaker 4: you know what I mean.

1241
00:57:32,680 --> 00:57:34,800
Speaker 5: Or in the case of somebody like DJ Moore, a

1242
00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:36,880
Speaker 5: guy who can catch a lot of passes and get

1243
00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:38,760
Speaker 5: a lot of yards but has never He's only been

1244
00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:41,040
Speaker 5: the league two years, but he's never had that huge

1245
00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:44,720
Speaker 5: breakout year where he catches eight, nine, ten touchdowns. So

1246
00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:46,240
Speaker 5: I don't know if I want to get that guy

1247
00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:48,080
Speaker 5: when I get another guy that's going to catch just

1248
00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:50,960
Speaker 5: as many passes, maybe even have more yards when it's

1249
00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:53,120
Speaker 5: all said and done, and definitely more touchdowns.

1250
00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:57,560
Speaker 2: Dave, you mentioned earlier some guys that you are looking

1251
00:57:57,600 --> 00:58:01,680
Speaker 2: to stay away from. You mentioned Juju sifically in, Odell

1252
00:58:01,680 --> 00:58:05,480
Speaker 2: Beckham Junior. Two guys in the top fifty, David Johnson,

1253
00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:09,400
Speaker 2: David Montgomery. Is there anyone else in the top fifty

1254
00:58:09,640 --> 00:58:11,240
Speaker 2: that you kind of look at and you're like, you

1255
00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:13,560
Speaker 2: know what, I really think. I'm just gonna like my

1256
00:58:13,600 --> 00:58:16,520
Speaker 2: team better, like my fantasy season better if I don't

1257
00:58:16,560 --> 00:58:19,240
Speaker 2: have to worry about rostering this guys.

1258
00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:21,520
Speaker 5: Leonard Fournette in your top fifty.

1259
00:58:22,120 --> 00:58:25,080
Speaker 2: In he's certainly in the top fifty in terms of ADP. Yes,

1260
00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:28,800
Speaker 2: I mean the third round is right where he's going.

1261
00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:31,600
Speaker 5: So I wouldn't want to take him in round three.

1262
00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:35,200
Speaker 5: I'd prefer him in round five. I prefer Gury closer

1263
00:58:35,240 --> 00:58:37,120
Speaker 5: to round four and round five. And the problem with

1264
00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:39,400
Speaker 5: this is now I've given you four running backs. I'm

1265
00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:41,880
Speaker 5: running out of running backs. And this is going to

1266
00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:44,360
Speaker 5: be the part in the draft between rounds four and

1267
00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:47,160
Speaker 5: six where people are going to collect number two running

1268
00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:49,400
Speaker 5: backs or maybe number three running backs. And these are

1269
00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:54,080
Speaker 5: guys that I get the Willies when it comes to them.

1270
00:58:54,160 --> 00:58:57,560
Speaker 5: Leonard Fournette was great last year. The team changes the

1271
00:58:57,600 --> 00:59:01,160
Speaker 5: offense with lame duck offensive coordinator because that whole coaching

1272
00:59:01,160 --> 00:59:04,160
Speaker 5: staf's getting wiped out. The offensive coordinator, who's a lame duck,

1273
00:59:04,200 --> 00:59:06,520
Speaker 5: brought in his favorite pass catching running back with him.

1274
00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:09,200
Speaker 5: They've got a young running back behind Leonard Fournette. The

1275
00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:12,280
Speaker 5: team tried to trade Leonard Fournette, and it looks like

1276
00:59:12,360 --> 00:59:14,400
Speaker 5: he's backing good graces and they're gonna say, look, let's

1277
00:59:14,400 --> 00:59:15,919
Speaker 5: just make it work this year. You do your thing

1278
00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:18,760
Speaker 5: and we'll figure it out from there. I want Leonard

1279
00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:21,120
Speaker 5: Fournette to get traded. I don't want him in Jacksonville.

1280
00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:22,840
Speaker 5: Jackson is gonna be a team that's gonna play from

1281
00:59:22,840 --> 00:59:25,000
Speaker 5: behind a lot this year anyway. And if he's not

1282
00:59:25,040 --> 00:59:26,680
Speaker 5: gonna be the guy, Foette's not gonna be the guy

1283
00:59:26,680 --> 00:59:29,600
Speaker 5: in passing situations, then those seventy three catches are probably

1284
00:59:29,600 --> 00:59:31,880
Speaker 5: gonna look more like thirty seven this year. I don't

1285
00:59:31,880 --> 00:59:34,440
Speaker 5: want a chance that I want Leonard Fournette to go

1286
00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:37,960
Speaker 5: to a team. I think I almost want him to

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00:59:37,960 --> 00:59:41,000
Speaker 5: go to Houston And like Duke Johnson gets hurt and

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Speaker 5: they just decide. You know, Bill O'Brien makes crazy trades.

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Speaker 5: He makes another crazy trade, and so Fournette can be

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Speaker 5: the hammer that they're looking for on rushing downs, and

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Speaker 5: David Johnson can handle certain passing down situations. I'd love

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Speaker 5: to see him go to a team that's got a

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Speaker 5: stronger offensive line that actually values Fournette's physicality and certainly

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Speaker 5: can provide. I had more opportunities to score from short

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Speaker 5: yardage than Jacksonville did last year. Jaxonville barely gave him opportunities.

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Speaker 5: It's why I only had three touchdowns. And it's not

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Speaker 5: because they were consistently driving inside the five week after

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Speaker 5: week after week. It's because they were scoring farther away

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Speaker 5: if they were scoring at all. So Leonard Fournette, I

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Speaker 5: just think is a solid running back in the wrong

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Speaker 5: place who's not going to replicate a lot of the

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Speaker 5: numbers that he had last year. Will he score more

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Speaker 5: than three touchdowns? Probably? Will it be eight or nine?

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Speaker 5: Probably not. And what happens if he does one or

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Speaker 5: two things wrong, if he you know, fumbles the ball

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Speaker 5: or something. The coaching sapp has already made it clear

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Speaker 5: that they don't love him. They might bench him and say,

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Speaker 5: all right, rock arms set, get in there, let's see

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Speaker 5: what you can do, show your thing. And then Leonard

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Speaker 5: Fourette's a donut in on your roster every week. So

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Speaker 5: round three is way too rich for me.

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Speaker 2: On four, Nette, Yeah, just a number of running backs

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Speaker 2: here that I would prefer to stay away from. All right, Dave,

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