1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:08,119 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast, the final hour of the week Clay 3 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 1: Travis Buck Sexton Show. Buck is out on his honeymoon. 4 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:15,320 Speaker 1: I am in Phoenix. Appreciate all the great people that 5 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 1: I have met out here so far. This week, we 6 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:21,599 Speaker 1: have been diving into a large variety of topics as 7 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:23,760 Speaker 1: we typically do. Encourage all of you to go subscribe 8 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:25,760 Speaker 1: to the podcast. You can search out my name Clay Travis, 9 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 1: you can search out Buck Sexton Boom. You can join 10 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:31,480 Speaker 1: the tens of millions of downloaders out there, and you 11 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:34,879 Speaker 1: can hear this program and many other unique offerings in 12 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 1: the podcast universe from both Buck and myself. We are 13 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:41,839 Speaker 1: joined now by the final guest for the week. He 14 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 1: is Jade Vance, recently elected senator from Ohio and Senator. 15 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:49,319 Speaker 1: First of all, thanks for making the time for us. 16 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 1: I want to start right here. I was just talking 17 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 1: about Joe Biden saying, and this is a direct quote 18 00:00:56,600 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 1: from him, anyway, not a major breach when directly asked 19 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 1: about the Chinese spy balloon that traversed the entire United States, 20 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 1: Doesn't it seem like that's kind of a major breach 21 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 1: to you, and if it's not, what in the world 22 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 1: would Biden consider to be a major breach. Well, it 23 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 1: is a major breach. And I actually attended to classified 24 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:24,119 Speaker 1: briefing yesterday, so I'll be a little bit careful about 25 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 1: what we learned and what we didn't learn or what 26 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:29,679 Speaker 1: we still don't know. But I will say having sat 27 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 1: through that brief I came away with two thoughts. One 28 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:33,959 Speaker 1: to confirmed my view that we should have shot this 29 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 1: thing down the moment it entered North American airspace, which 30 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 1: remember that it started out of Alaska. We were aware 31 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 1: of that. On January the twenty eighth, it went through 32 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 1: a major chunk of Canada, completely unoccupied, uninhabited territory, maybe 33 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 1: sparsely populated parts of Canada, where we could have easily 34 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 1: shot this thing down, and we should have. The second 35 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 1: thing is it was a major breach. In fact, we 36 00:01:57,720 --> 00:02:00,120 Speaker 1: don't fully know what the Chinese learned from it, but 37 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 1: we know that the balloon had intelligence gathering capabilities. We 38 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 1: know they learned a lot about some important American military installations, 39 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 1: and we know that we actually aren't fully aware of 40 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 1: exactly what they learned. And that's a big problem, right 41 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 1: You don't want a foreign balloon of America's biggest adversary 42 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 1: floating overhead for days without being fully aware of what 43 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:28,079 Speaker 1: they were, what they're gathering. So it was a major 44 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:29,959 Speaker 1: problem that should have been shot down. And I think 45 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 1: that Joe Biden is being really, really careless when he 46 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 1: tries to downplay this. He should level with the American people. 47 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 1: I would actually respect Biden more if he came out 48 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 1: and said, look, this was a mistake. We should have 49 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 1: shot it down earlier, and it's a big problem, and 50 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 1: it suggests a major escalation from the Chinese. You just 51 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:51,640 Speaker 1: got elected from Ohio and you wrote a fabulous book, 52 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 1: Hillbilly Elegy. I bet you saw James Carville go on 53 00:02:55,960 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 1: MSNBC and call Marjorie Taylor green trash. You guys are 54 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 1: around this. We're around the same age you and me. 55 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 1: I'm from Tennessee. You grew up in Kentucky and Ohio 56 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 1: in that area. You know that that is among the 57 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:15,080 Speaker 1: most pejorative terms out there that you can toss on someone. 58 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:19,800 Speaker 1: He also said she dressed like white trash. When you 59 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 1: look at Democrats basically becoming the party of the woke, 60 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 1: white college educated, I'm curious how you would respond to 61 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 1: that because Carville helped to get Bill Clinton elected in 62 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 1: ninety two and ninety six. He's a Louisiana guy. I'm 63 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 1: stunned that he would go on, you can have lots 64 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 1: of issues with people a variety of backgrounds, but to 65 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 1: call her white trash, it just felt like such a 66 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 1: window into what Democrats have become, and even that Carville 67 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 1: himself has become that. Yeah. I mean, I have a 68 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 1: few thoughts about this play, and I could probably talk 69 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 1: about this for longer than you have time. But first 70 00:03:57,360 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 1: of all, James Carville calling somebody white trash, I mean, 71 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 1: isn't that the ultimate potfol kettle black moment? The second, 72 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 1: the second reaction I have to You know, Marjorie, as 73 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 1: you may know, is a good friend of mine. I 74 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 1: think she's h I think she doesn't get credit from 75 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 1: the media for actually being much more thoughtful than they 76 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:19,480 Speaker 1: realize and much a bigger leader I think in our 77 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:22,839 Speaker 1: movement than people realize in the future. But but look, 78 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:27,280 Speaker 1: this is why Democrats lose working class white people, that's 79 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 1: my entire family, because they speak about us with such 80 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:35,360 Speaker 1: incredible disrespect and derision. And by the way, Clay, there 81 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 1: is no group in America that you can get away 82 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 1: talking about like that like that without losing your job 83 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 1: or losing your livelihood. The double standard. People are aware 84 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:48,479 Speaker 1: of it, and it's why all of this talk about 85 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 1: white privilege and all these other things is completely bogus 86 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 1: because people know that if you are a middle class, 87 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 1: working class white person, the media can talk about you 88 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 1: like a sewer rat and they'll get away with it. 89 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 1: And that's a big double standard. How And you see 90 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 1: it in particular because Ohio is a perfect window into that, right, 91 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 1: Ohio used to be a toss up state, and because 92 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 1: Democrats have become so derisive in the way that they 93 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:19,920 Speaker 1: talk about so many people in the state, people who 94 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:23,280 Speaker 1: have to work for a living, blue collar I don't 95 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 1: even know how they can get back that group, right, 96 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:29,040 Speaker 1: I mean, I know what, Maybe it shouldn't have been 97 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:31,840 Speaker 1: staggering to me, but to go on MSNBC and say 98 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:38,039 Speaker 1: it so explicitly, it was just crazy to me. Yeah. No, 99 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:40,040 Speaker 1: it's a big part of the reason why why they're 100 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 1: suffering politically. Look, people want to have basic respect from 101 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 1: their political leaders. This is America, after all. We are 102 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:50,679 Speaker 1: not ruled by kings, were ruled by nobody. We're led 103 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 1: and governed by our fellow citizens, And if you don't 104 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:56,599 Speaker 1: have respect for people, how can you possibly expect to 105 00:05:56,640 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 1: earn their vote. It's interesting to compare what Carvil said 106 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:04,159 Speaker 1: to Biden's State of the Union address, where look, there 107 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:06,279 Speaker 1: were all of these problems with it. He was doing 108 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 1: a victory lap on an economy that's a disaster. He 109 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:12,279 Speaker 1: didn't even mention the Chinese by balloon. He didn't sound greating, 110 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 1: look great, we can go through all the problems. But 111 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:16,920 Speaker 1: the one thing that I think Republicans we've got to 112 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:19,480 Speaker 1: be careful about with Biden is that while a lot 113 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 1: of people don't like US policies, they don't hate him 114 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:24,919 Speaker 1: at a personal level. And he talked about forgotten towns, 115 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 1: and he talked about bad trade deals and the loss 116 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 1: of manufacturing, the loss of dignity that comes along when 117 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 1: you lose a job. I thought that was actually pretty 118 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 1: effective politically. But the problem with Biden and the Democrats 119 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 1: is they are completely led and surrounded by people like 120 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:44,159 Speaker 1: James Carville who really hate a big chunk of the 121 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 1: population in Middle America. And you can't run from that, 122 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 1: and you can't pretend it isn't there when you're a Democrat, 123 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 1: you're talking about twenty twenty four as we look forward. 124 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 1: I believe you have endorsed Donald Trump for twenty twenty 125 00:06:56,880 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 1: four in your mind, is it pretty much a foregone 126 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 1: conclusion that Biden is going to be the guy for Democrats? 127 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:05,039 Speaker 1: And if so, what does that tell us about the 128 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 1: Democrat Party? You know, I don't know. Play it's crazy 129 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 1: to me that it's anything close to a four gone collusion, 130 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 1: because he clearly is not the same I met Joe 131 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 1: Biden once in twenty sixteen, reasonably briefly. He's just a 132 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 1: fundamentally different person than that seven years later, So it's 133 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 1: shocking to me that he could lead the country potentially 134 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 1: for another six years. But he sounded like a man 135 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 1: during the State of the Union who was going to 136 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 1: run again. So I do think he's the likely Democratic nominee, 137 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 1: and you know, I think Trump is the likely nominee. 138 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 1: I think he's certainly the front runner. Obviously I've endorsed him, 139 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 1: But I think we're going to have a tough primary 140 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 1: on the Republican side, at least I expect it we will. 141 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 1: When you look forward and think about what's going to happen. 142 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 1: You saw the State of the Union from Joe Biden, 143 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 1: and I bet you even picked up on the fact 144 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 1: that he sounded a little bit like Donald Trump. I mean, 145 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 1: he didn't sound anything like the Joe Biden who has 146 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 1: governed the first two years. What happens for the next 147 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 1: two years you're now in the Senate. What can get done, 148 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 1: what should get done in the remainder of the Biden regime. Well, look, 149 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 1: I think that Joe Biden realizes politically that the border 150 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 1: as a disaster, and this is one area where, you know, 151 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 1: I think it's the most important crisis that we face 152 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 1: in the country. And if Biden is willing to meet 153 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 1: us halfway or anyway, it's where we should be most 154 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 1: willing to cut a deal for the American people. If 155 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 1: we can stop or at least reduce the flow of 156 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 1: illegal migrants, of illegal drugs, of criminal activity across the border, 157 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:36,080 Speaker 1: we should do it. I think it would be good 158 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 1: for Biden politically, but I don't care about that. I 159 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:42,319 Speaker 1: just want to stop the border crisis, and I think 160 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 1: that's the most important thing that we can do. I 161 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 1: think there's maybe some room to work on what we're 162 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 1: doing with China on beefing up our industrial capacity. You know, 163 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 1: we need to be manufacturing weapons that we could use, 164 00:08:56,720 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 1: God forbid if we get into a conflict with China 165 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 1: two years on the road, five years down the road. 166 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 1: Right now, our country is not capable of producing the 167 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 1: weapons systems we would need for any potential future conflict. Again, 168 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 1: you hope that it doesn't happen, but the best way 169 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 1: to prevent it from happening is to make sure you're 170 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 1: ready for it. I think it'll potentially ways to work 171 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:17,320 Speaker 1: with Joe Biden on that, but look, by and large, 172 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 1: the Democrats are already running for reelection in the Senate. 173 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:23,680 Speaker 1: We're not working all that hard because the Senate Democrats 174 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 1: have us in a lot of recess because they're trying 175 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 1: to defend their political territory. They're not thinking about governing. 176 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 1: So I don't think a whole lot is going to 177 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 1: get done. We can prevent the bad, maybe get some 178 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 1: things accomplished on the border in China, but that's the 179 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 1: posture for the next couple of years. I know you've 180 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:42,200 Speaker 1: probably not had much time or experience with him, but 181 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:45,679 Speaker 1: John Fetterman was elected at the same time that you were. 182 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 1: He's been in the hospital now for two nights. He's 183 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 1: in there for a third day. What is your experiment's 184 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 1: experiment experience been like with John Fetterman, and what do 185 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 1: you think about his potential health prognosis so far as 186 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 1: you can tell? You know, I mean, first I wish 187 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 1: the guy the very best. You know, he's got some 188 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:08,319 Speaker 1: serious health problems. It's been very clear in communicating with 189 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:10,439 Speaker 1: him the little that I have that he has some 190 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 1: serious hangovers from a stroke. But but on the one hand, look, 191 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 1: we can pray for his recovery, and I certainly have 192 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:18,680 Speaker 1: and will continue to do so. And all the other hand, 193 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 1: acknowledge the unbelievable dishonesty of the media where when people 194 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:26,319 Speaker 1: raised his health as a potential problem for him serving, 195 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:29,079 Speaker 1: the media shot it down, did not investigate it, did 196 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:32,079 Speaker 1: not really ask the questions that should be asked of 197 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 1: anybody after a serious health consequence or emergency, whether they're 198 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 1: Republicans or Democrats. So I think the fact that John 199 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 1: continues to struggle is sad. I also think it's an 200 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 1: incredible indictment of the media. They should have been on 201 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:46,719 Speaker 1: top of this from the very beginning. The people of 202 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 1: Pennsylvania should be made aware of those problems, and a 203 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:51,320 Speaker 1: lot of them worked because the media didn't do their job, 204 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:54,319 Speaker 1: no doubt. All right, easy question for you to close 205 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 1: out here. I imagine you'll be watching the Super Bowl. 206 00:10:56,640 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 1: I imagine you're also still ruling the fact that the 207 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:02,320 Speaker 1: Cincinnati Bengals lost in the way that they did to 208 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 1: the Kansas City Chiefs. What happens? Who wins? Why? Well, 209 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 1: look play. I think that as the Kansas City Chiefs 210 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 1: are playing not just the Eagles, but with the referees 211 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:16,079 Speaker 1: on their side like they did against the Cincinnati Bengals, 212 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 1: they're gonna win a massive Super Bowl victory. I don't know, 213 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 1: you know, the Eagles can't beat both the Chiefs and 214 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 1: the refs. I have poked some of my colleagues who 215 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:28,960 Speaker 1: are from the Kansas City area about this, but I 216 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:33,760 Speaker 1: will never get over the officiating of that AFC Championship game. 217 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 1: And I gotta be honest, I don't really care who wins, 218 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:39,959 Speaker 1: but I'll certainly be watching like everybody else. By the way, 219 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:42,560 Speaker 1: as a Baggels fan, what did you think of the 220 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:46,959 Speaker 1: Cincinnati mayor's proclamation? We played that I think on Monday 221 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 1: of maybe a couple weeks ago. It's one of the 222 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:53,199 Speaker 1: craziest proclamations I've ever seen. For people who don't remember, 223 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 1: the Democrat mayor of Cincinnati basically gave the most trash 224 00:11:56,880 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 1: talking thing that I've ever seen any politician put out there. 225 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 1: I would think people at Cincinnati are still kind of 226 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 1: fired up about that, because clearly the Kansas City Chiefs 227 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 1: players took note because Travis Kelsey was ripping the mayor, 228 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:13,080 Speaker 1: which I've also never seen after a glan Well, you know, 229 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:15,840 Speaker 1: obviously he's a Democrat. I'm a Republican, but I admire 230 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:17,559 Speaker 1: the fire in the belly because look, a lot of 231 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:20,680 Speaker 1: us were pissed off about this. I am not Clay. 232 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 1: I have never, i think, in my life as a 233 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 1: sports fan, complained about the officiating as much as I 234 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 1: have the last couple of weeks. I've just never seen 235 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 1: anything like it. Yeah, I know it's a mess. There's 236 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 1: no doubt at all that it was a mess. Well, 237 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:33,319 Speaker 1: we'll talk to you again soon. Appreciate all the work 238 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 1: you're doing, and thanks for making the time with us 239 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 1: here on this Friday. All right, take care man, have 240 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 1: a good weekend. Yeah, for sure. That's Ohio Senator jd 241 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 1: Vance checking in. 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We have evidently in the last few 264 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 1: minutes reports have emerged, and we'll maybe have some audio 265 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 1: for you at the end of the program, that we 266 00:13:55,800 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 1: have shot down another object somewhere over Alaska, potentially another 267 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 1: Chinese spy balloon. Details are still emerging as as we 268 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 1: are in the process. Again New York Times Pentagon shoots 269 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 1: down an unidentified object over Alaska, possibly a second balloon 270 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 1: that broke nine minutes ago. So we will see what 271 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 1: happens now what I would say, and here's a little 272 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 1: bit more breaking news on that. The White House says 273 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 1: the US military shot down an object flying at forty 274 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 1: thousand feet in US territorial waters over Alaska in the 275 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 1: last hour. So we again, maybe more details coming out. 276 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 1: At a minimum, it sounds like Joe Biden has finally 277 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 1: decided that maybe it is in fact a major breach 278 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 1: to allow foreign aircraft to come into the United States 279 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:03,240 Speaker 1: and fly across the entire country. And obviously this is 280 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 1: also a major moment here of disrespect in the fact 281 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 1: that China having just set a balloon across is now 282 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 1: potentially going to be trying to do it again. This 283 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 1: is supposedly much smaller than the Chinese spy balloon, about 284 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 1: the size of a small car. So maybe what's going 285 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 1: on is China is trying different objects to penetrate American 286 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 1: airspace to see how we respond. But that news is 287 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 1: out there and has broken in the last ten minutes, 288 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 1: So if we get any further information about that between 289 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 1: now when we close out the program, we certainly will 290 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 1: discuss it in further detail. But remember the Chinese spy 291 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 1: balloon initially entered in Alaska, and reports are that this 292 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 1: object has been shot down off the coast of Alaska. 293 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:06,479 Speaker 1: So maybe we have finally decided that Chinese foreign aircraft 294 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 1: is not allowed to traverse American skies. But we will 295 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 1: see what exactly the report is as these details come out. 296 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 1: Certainly I would imagine Sean Hannity will be talking about 297 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 1: it and we will discuss it for sure on Monday, 298 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 1: by which time all of this information will be out there. 299 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 1: Remember it's about a week ago that news broke, I 300 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 1: think almost exactly a week ago on the Friday edition 301 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 1: of the program that we discussed that Chinese spy balloon. 302 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 1: A couple of stories out there that I also want 303 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 1: to hit. There is a story I don't know how 304 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 1: many of you saw it in the New York Times 305 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 1: ripping this program alongside of Russia Limbaugh as one of 306 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 1: the foremost purveyors of misinformation on the audio waves in 307 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 1: the country. I believe the New York Times ranked US 308 00:16:55,240 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 1: as number three in the nation for purveying misinformation. According 309 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:05,280 Speaker 1: to producer Ali, who sent this information to us yesterday, 310 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:08,879 Speaker 1: is based on a study by the Brookings Institute. I 311 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:12,720 Speaker 1: want to put this out there for everyone who might 312 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:16,399 Speaker 1: be willing to share this with the Brookings Institute. I 313 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 1: will extend an open invitation to the Brookings Institute scholars 314 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:24,959 Speaker 1: who have been analyzing the audio of this program and 315 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:29,480 Speaker 1: claim that we are among the foremost purveyors of misinformation 316 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:33,440 Speaker 1: in the country. I will extend an open invite to 317 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 1: anyone from the Brookings Institute that would like to come 318 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:42,639 Speaker 1: on this program next week and explain what misinformation we 319 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 1: have been sharing with all of you are esteemed audience, 320 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 1: and make the case that we are among the foremost 321 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:52,360 Speaker 1: purveyors of misinformation in the country, which is what their 322 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:56,200 Speaker 1: allegation is. I would like to hear the specific instances 323 00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:58,959 Speaker 1: of misinformation that they allege we have been sharing with 324 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:02,200 Speaker 1: all of you. I will give the Brookings Institute scholars 325 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 1: the opportunity to come on this program and make the 326 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:09,400 Speaker 1: case to all of you that we are regularly spreading 327 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:12,960 Speaker 1: falsehoods to you. I would like to hear what their 328 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:16,439 Speaker 1: metrics are. I would like to hear their evidence. Open 329 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 1: forum invite. We don't run and hide on this program 330 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:22,119 Speaker 1: if you're going to attack us in the pages of 331 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:27,400 Speaker 1: the New York Times and argue that we are misinformation authorities, 332 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 1: the third worst in the high and the entire country, 333 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 1: both this show by name and Russia Limbaugh by show 334 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:38,960 Speaker 1: by name, attacking not only this show presently, but also 335 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 1: the legacy of Russia Limbaugh. I want them to come 336 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:46,159 Speaker 1: on with the specifics and tell this show what we, 337 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 1: in their mind, have shared with all of you that 338 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:52,480 Speaker 1: is misinformation, so you can judge for yourself. I bet 339 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:55,359 Speaker 1: that we will not get a response, but consider this 340 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 1: to be a public invite to the Brookings Institute, because 341 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:02,119 Speaker 1: here's what's going on with this. In my opinion, this 342 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:03,959 Speaker 1: is the way they go after our advertising and our 343 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:08,040 Speaker 1: distribution right, they say, Oh, Clay Travis and Buck Sexton, 344 00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 1: you can't be allowed to listen to them. Google, you 345 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:15,440 Speaker 1: have to restrict any of their links, You have to 346 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:20,120 Speaker 1: restrict their YouTube videos, Apple iTunes. How in the world 347 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 1: would you let tens of millions of people download this 348 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:26,720 Speaker 1: program when it is a top purveyor of misinformation in 349 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:33,200 Speaker 1: the entire country. Of course, misinformation is so broadly defined. 350 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 1: Buck and I both endeavor every single day you listen 351 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 1: to this program. You know, if we get a fact wrong, 352 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:46,760 Speaker 1: we come on and try to immediately correct it. I 353 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 1: do not believe for anybody that does three hours of 354 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 1: live programming that there are very many shows out there 355 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:56,359 Speaker 1: in the country that have fewer factual errors on a 356 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 1: day to day basis than we do. But we get 357 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 1: things wrong, and when we're away of them, we come on, 358 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 1: we try to tell you immediately. But you'll note what 359 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 1: happens is we have expanded the universe of what facts 360 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 1: are and what misinformation is, so that if we share 361 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:16,680 Speaker 1: facts with you and then it leads to an opinion, oh, well, 362 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 1: that's not permissible because that's misinformation. And then you know 363 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:23,679 Speaker 1: what often happens is what we tell you were months 364 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 1: ahead of and then everybody else starts to catch up, 365 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 1: and they say, well, they never correct the fact that 366 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 1: what we did was misinformation. And I'll give you an 367 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 1: example of that that is out there right now. Study 368 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:41,920 Speaker 1: just came down. Turns out people are dying of heart 369 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:48,200 Speaker 1: attacks way more than they did before COVID story. Even 370 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:53,960 Speaker 1: the Today Show did headline since COVID, more young people 371 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 1: are dying of heart attacks. Oh what that sounds like 372 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:03,400 Speaker 1: something you might hear here, Media's catch it up. The 373 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 1: age group hit the hardest. Reading from the article, people 374 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:10,879 Speaker 1: between twenty five and forty four who have seen a 375 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:14,440 Speaker 1: twenty nine point nine percent relative increase in heart attack 376 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 1: deaths over the first two years of the pandemic, so 377 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 1: thirty percent higher than would have been expected. You've probably 378 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:24,960 Speaker 1: noticed this in your own lives. It's a lot of 379 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:29,720 Speaker 1: people young, otherwise healthy twenty five forty four suddenly dropping dead. 380 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 1: Heart attacks are also up in people between the ages 381 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:37,440 Speaker 1: of forty five and sixty four, nearly by twenty percent, 382 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:42,440 Speaker 1: and heart attacks are even up in those over sixty five, 383 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 1: who have seen nearly a fourteen percent relative increase in 384 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:50,679 Speaker 1: the amount of heart attacks. Now in this entire article. 385 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 1: You know what they don't mention as a potential cause 386 00:21:56,080 --> 00:22:01,200 Speaker 1: of these increases in heart attacks COVID shot. Higher article says, 387 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 1: this is what happens when people get COVID. Now, maybe 388 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 1: that's true. Maybe there are going to be more heart 389 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 1: attacks in people who got COVID. I've had it twice. 390 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 1: I hope it's not true. But don't you think that 391 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 1: maybe it would be worthwhile to mention the COVID shot, 392 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 1: something that was mandated by the government, as potentially being 393 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 1: involved in why heart attack deaths are up nearly thirty 394 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:30,160 Speaker 1: percent twenty nine point nine percent in people aged twenty 395 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:32,480 Speaker 1: five to forty four. I think that's a fair question 396 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 1: to ask, particularly because the data overall shows that almost 397 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:39,920 Speaker 1: everyone under the age of forty five who gets COVID 398 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 1: has almost no impact from it. Yet we made all 399 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:46,159 Speaker 1: those people, many of them, get the COVID shot in 400 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 1: order to be able to go to school, or to 401 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:51,439 Speaker 1: be able to work, or to go to military. Is 402 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:56,200 Speaker 1: this misinformation? Is the Brookings Institute upset that I would 403 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:59,880 Speaker 1: share this factual information with you and then say, hey, 404 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:05,199 Speaker 1: let's discuss what might be causing that, because that to 405 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 1: me seems like what the job should be. Hey, here's 406 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:16,640 Speaker 1: a pace of factual data. Now let's discuss why this 407 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 1: piece of factual data exists. That, to me is the 408 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 1: very essence of our job. Is that misinformation that I said, Hey, 409 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:30,960 Speaker 1: could the COVID shot maybe be involved in a massive 410 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:36,879 Speaker 1: increase in relative heart attack deaths in young people? Doesn't 411 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 1: seem outlandish to me. In fact, that's the entire basis 412 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 1: of science. Something happens and then we try to figure 413 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 1: out why it happened, and people toss out all sorts 414 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:55,680 Speaker 1: of hypotheses. It could be that heart attack deaths are 415 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:59,320 Speaker 1: up thirty percent because of the Chinese spy balloon. I 416 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 1: think it's likely, but it could be a hypothesis. And 417 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 1: obviously I'm being hyperbolic and being ridiculous. So the Brooking 418 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:12,440 Speaker 1: Institute understands right, there are legitimate and illegitimate potential causes 419 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:18,440 Speaker 1: of everything. Discussing them when it's unclear why they might 420 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:21,679 Speaker 1: have occurred is the very essence of what an informed 421 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 1: public should do, because I would think call me crazy 422 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 1: if we are giving COVID shots two people that don't 423 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 1: need them, and in fact, instead of protecting them, the 424 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:39,679 Speaker 1: COVID shot for young people, is adding any degree of 425 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:45,119 Speaker 1: danger at all to our overall lives and the lives 426 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 1: of our kids and our grandkids. I think that's kind 427 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 1: of important, and I think those are very significant questions 428 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 1: to be asking. I think what you'll see Brookings Institute 429 00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:00,760 Speaker 1: is if this show has been way ahead of most 430 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 1: of the dgra ramises in the media in explaining and 431 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:09,359 Speaker 1: discussing data that is significant in all of your lives. 432 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 1: And we've been proven correct an awful lot of the time. 433 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:15,600 Speaker 1: But I just wanted to put that out there. The 434 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 1: Brookings Institute is welcome to send their most esteemed misinformation 435 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:22,639 Speaker 1: expert to come on this program and tell all of 436 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:26,000 Speaker 1: you who are listening right now that we, fucking myself 437 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:29,399 Speaker 1: are a couple of imbeciles who are making the world 438 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:32,720 Speaker 1: a worst place by spreading misinformation every single day. I'd 439 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:34,960 Speaker 1: like to know what they consider misinformation to be on 440 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:37,200 Speaker 1: this program we come back, I'll give you a pick 441 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:40,360 Speaker 1: on the Super Bowl and ride off into the weekend 442 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 1: with all of you. Also update you on a couple 443 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:44,720 Speaker 1: of more of the details that are coming out about 444 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:49,320 Speaker 1: what exactly we shot down off the coast of Alaska. 445 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:53,200 Speaker 1: Guess Joe Biden maybe has decided that foreign aircraft maybe 446 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:55,960 Speaker 1: they are actual major breaches. We've got to cut for you. 447 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:57,639 Speaker 1: We'll play it for you when we come back. Appreciate 448 00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 1: all of you. My name is Clay Travis. This obviously 449 00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 1: is Clay and Bucket. I want to tell you about 450 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 1: Tunnel to Towers. 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I'll give you 476 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:31,840 Speaker 1: my prediction in the third hour of the program, and 477 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:33,840 Speaker 1: I'm about to tweet it out. You'll get an early 478 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 1: preview of that and you can share your own. We're 479 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 1: joined now by Senator Ron Johnson of Wisconsin. Senator I 480 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 1: know we've had you on sent you one reelection in November, 481 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 1: but Joe Biden seems to enjoy attacking you by making 482 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:52,240 Speaker 1: up stories about you. I know you're used to that, 483 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:55,920 Speaker 1: but he traveled to your state and made some claims 484 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:58,680 Speaker 1: about you. What did you consider to be the biggest whoppers? 485 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:01,200 Speaker 1: And I hope you're having a good weekend, our early 486 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:04,120 Speaker 1: start here weekend. Thanks for coming on with us. Oh great, 487 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:07,040 Speaker 1: I hope you're doing well well. I think the President 488 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:09,960 Speaker 1: might have just forgotten the fact that I already won 489 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:12,200 Speaker 1: re election and he doesn't have to worry about the 490 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:14,680 Speaker 1: attack to me for another five or six years. You're 491 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:16,600 Speaker 1: going to be in office for longer than he is. 492 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:20,080 Speaker 1: I feel good about that. But what's amazing I actually 493 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:23,639 Speaker 1: really appreciate to what Fox News uncovered is back in 494 00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:28,520 Speaker 1: eighteen seventy seventy five, the Senator Joe Biden, it was 495 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:31,879 Speaker 1: proposing exactly what he's for example, accusing Rick Scott of 496 00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:38,080 Speaker 1: saying that he proposed sun setting every government program every 497 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:43,680 Speaker 1: four years, and talked repeatedly about freezing soul Security and 498 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:47,200 Speaker 1: Medicare and Medicaid benefits. So, I mean, not only is 499 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:49,200 Speaker 1: the a liar, he's a hypocrite. You know, if he 500 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:52,200 Speaker 1: comes to Wisconsin. He did this from the campaign, did 501 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 1: again yesterday basically saying that I want to cut or 502 00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 1: end or put Soul Secure in the chopping block. I've 503 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:02,760 Speaker 1: never said that it's complete lie. What I have said 504 00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:06,240 Speaker 1: is I want to save those programs, and I've said 505 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:08,560 Speaker 1: the way to save them is we need to start 506 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 1: reducing the out of control depths is spending, pay attention 507 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:15,840 Speaker 1: to our massive debt, and that it's that depth of 508 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:18,320 Speaker 1: spending and massive debt that is the greatest stretch of 509 00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:24,920 Speaker 1: so security. And politicians like Joe Biden, who now as 510 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:28,600 Speaker 1: President Biden simply will not take a look at federal 511 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:32,840 Speaker 1: spending and start raining it in, start prioritizing it. So 512 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:35,920 Speaker 1: there's a lot going on right now. I know we 513 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:38,600 Speaker 1: were hoping that you would have control of a committee, 514 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:42,600 Speaker 1: that the Republicans would take control of the Senate, but 515 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:46,920 Speaker 1: the House has really been unveiling a lot as it 516 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:50,960 Speaker 1: pertains to Twitter, misinformation campaigns and everything else out there. 517 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:52,200 Speaker 1: And I want to I want to ask you about 518 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:55,440 Speaker 1: this question in particular, because I was hammering it yesterday 519 00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:58,360 Speaker 1: and I know it's something that you would consider to 520 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:02,760 Speaker 1: be incredibly integral as well. So we know that the 521 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:06,240 Speaker 1: FBIS had the Hunter Biden laptop since December of twenty nineteen. 522 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:10,959 Speaker 1: We also know smoking gun evidence that they were providing 523 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 1: briefings to big tech companies arguing for them to be 524 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:21,400 Speaker 1: prepared for Russian disinformation potentially connected to the Hunter Biden laptop. 525 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 1: To be fair, we don't know whether the FBI agents 526 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:29,160 Speaker 1: giving those briefings had also been privy to the investigation 527 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 1: into Hunter Biden's laptop. What we do know, Senator, is 528 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:36,120 Speaker 1: that some people at the FBI, we don't know how 529 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:39,280 Speaker 1: many would have known that the laptop was real and 530 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:43,120 Speaker 1: would have been in some way either allowing or encouraging 531 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:46,880 Speaker 1: the briefings to big tech to suggest that the laptops 532 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,720 Speaker 1: were not real. And I know that involved you as 533 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:52,680 Speaker 1: well in what the FBI acted. Who do we think 534 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 1: was the puppet master here trying to rig the election 535 00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:59,680 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty based on the Hunter Biden laptop? And 536 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,560 Speaker 1: are we ever going to know who inside the FBI 537 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:07,040 Speaker 1: basically ordered these code reads. Well, one of the reasons 538 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:11,720 Speaker 1: I called for in my testimony the House investigators to 539 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:15,640 Speaker 1: call an interview every one of those fifty one intelligence 540 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:20,920 Speaker 1: officials to sign that information operation letter. Okay, remember that 541 00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:25,120 Speaker 1: they said that the kind of fighting laptop had all 542 00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:29,040 Speaker 1: the earmarks of a Russian information operation. No, that letter 543 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:33,920 Speaker 1: was information operation that interfered and had an impact on 544 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 1: our election, we fared greater extent than anything Russia ever 545 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:41,520 Speaker 1: could have hoped to accomplish. So, first of all, we 546 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:45,760 Speaker 1: need to find out who masterminded that letter. But you know, 547 00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:48,560 Speaker 1: one thing I think Chuck Rassler kind of took as 548 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 1: part of his testimony really focused on the sabotage of 549 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:56,280 Speaker 1: our investigation into the Bidens, and it was multiple actors. 550 00:31:56,280 --> 00:32:00,160 Speaker 1: I mean, we had Democrat senators setting us up. We 551 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:03,400 Speaker 1: have the FBI setting us up, giving us unsolicited briefings 552 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:07,480 Speaker 1: that were nonsense. They told us nothing I knew I 553 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:09,520 Speaker 1: was being set up. They did later leak it to 554 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:12,360 Speaker 1: smear me in twenty twenty one and impact in the 555 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:16,160 Speaker 1: Wisconsin election as well. So what is key about that 556 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:21,280 Speaker 1: December twenty nineteen date is yet the FBI definitely had 557 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:24,280 Speaker 1: an information. We have whistleblower telling us that they were 558 00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:28,360 Speaker 1: told do not look at that laptop. Okay, but we 559 00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:31,680 Speaker 1: have evidence, you know, little piece of the puzzle. That's 560 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:34,200 Speaker 1: that point I point out in my testimony. When the 561 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:40,680 Speaker 1: FBI left the computer shop, somebody, one of the agents said, basically, 562 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:43,360 Speaker 1: you know, it is our experience that people don't talk 563 00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 1: about these things, don't get in trouble and I said, 564 00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:50,360 Speaker 1: that is the opening salvo in a ten months operation 565 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:56,240 Speaker 1: to sabotage any revelation that the laptop existed or any 566 00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:58,520 Speaker 1: bad information. So I mean, yet people have to really 567 00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:03,800 Speaker 1: think focus on that. The FBI spent ten months working 568 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:08,320 Speaker 1: giving us unsolicited briefings. Basically, you know by the way, 569 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:10,760 Speaker 1: we were offered that computer the day after our report 570 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:14,120 Speaker 1: dropped in September, but we didn't take possession of it 571 00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:16,680 Speaker 1: because we do our due diligence. We went to the FBI, 572 00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:19,440 Speaker 1: what do you know about this? They never told us 573 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:20,920 Speaker 1: what they knew about it. They gave us the run 574 00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:24,520 Speaker 1: around for weeks until Paul mciaac John Paul mcgeasa gave 575 00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:27,240 Speaker 1: it to ru Giuliani and then the New York Post. 576 00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:32,520 Speaker 1: So people really have to understand the gravity of what 577 00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:36,200 Speaker 1: the FBI was doing, how pervasive this was, how the 578 00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:41,240 Speaker 1: media played part of this. Democrat senators played a role 579 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:45,520 Speaker 1: in just using Russian disinformation. They've been using it for years, 580 00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:49,840 Speaker 1: starting with the Hillary Clinton emails the DNC hacked and 581 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:52,120 Speaker 1: we still this day don't know was that really Russia 582 00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:55,480 Speaker 1: that hacked into that? But it's sure worked effectively, didn't it. 583 00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:58,800 Speaker 1: So I have all the information I just have. I 584 00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:02,800 Speaker 1: have so much suspicion. Suspicion. There's so many things that 585 00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:08,640 Speaker 1: indicate a massive diversionary operation. Amen, And I'm glad you. 586 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:11,680 Speaker 1: I mean, we are ecstatic that you want a reelection 587 00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:14,000 Speaker 1: to be able to ask so many of these questions 588 00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:16,600 Speaker 1: as a sitting senator. But I want everybody out there 589 00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:20,680 Speaker 1: listening to us right now to understand. Look, Twitter and 590 00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:24,279 Speaker 1: Facebook and all these different tech companies, they have a 591 00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:28,200 Speaker 1: lot of people. I think that we're carrying water for government, 592 00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:31,640 Speaker 1: for Democrats. We all know that. But what is scarier 593 00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:34,799 Speaker 1: to me, Senator, is the rig job that you just 594 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:38,880 Speaker 1: talked about from inside of our own government, our own 595 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:44,440 Speaker 1: taxpayer funded FBI. There is a cabal. There is a 596 00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:46,520 Speaker 1: collusion that is going on there. We don't know how 597 00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:50,200 Speaker 1: many people there were, but they made a calculated decision 598 00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:54,200 Speaker 1: inside of the FBI to try and rig the election 599 00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:58,280 Speaker 1: by arguing the Hunter Biden laptop wasn't real when they 600 00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:01,759 Speaker 1: hundred percent knew at the top of the food chain 601 00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:04,960 Speaker 1: in the FBI that it was real. And those same people, 602 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:08,040 Speaker 1: by and large, Senator, are still there and we're going 603 00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:10,560 Speaker 1: to have a new election cycle coming up in twenty 604 00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:13,360 Speaker 1: twenty four. I don't know how anybody in the American 605 00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:17,000 Speaker 1: public with a functional brain can be confident with those 606 00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:19,960 Speaker 1: same people in positions of power when we really they're 607 00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:22,480 Speaker 1: they're the puppet masters, is what I'm calling them. And 608 00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:24,759 Speaker 1: you can say, oh, look at how the Twitter and 609 00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:27,520 Speaker 1: Facebook people are dancing. You know, they're they're the puppets. 610 00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:31,000 Speaker 1: But who's the puppet master? We still don't know. And 611 00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:32,880 Speaker 1: that's the essence of what we have to get to, 612 00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:39,000 Speaker 1: right is the global left in mass I don't think 613 00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:43,600 Speaker 1: that's what our side has really understood well enough yet. 614 00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:48,799 Speaker 1: Is how pervasive, how literally global, this is. And that's 615 00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:51,040 Speaker 1: what I try to point out in my ten twelve 616 00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:54,920 Speaker 1: minutes where the testimony yesterday is is the pervasiveness of this. 617 00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:57,279 Speaker 1: I mean all of the actors it is. It is 618 00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:01,720 Speaker 1: the left, and they have infiltrated every institution of our country. 619 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:04,239 Speaker 1: They started with the universities. I mean, this is all 620 00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:09,960 Speaker 1: the Flowinsky rules for radical playbook. I mean they've been 621 00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:13,360 Speaker 1: following that for decades and they've been very effective at it. 622 00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:17,799 Speaker 1: So when you control the universities, you're teaching journalists, you're 623 00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:21,840 Speaker 1: teaching our educators from doctriteing our children. Uh, you control 624 00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:25,799 Speaker 1: our media, and so they get away with falsely accusing 625 00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:29,560 Speaker 1: conservatives of exactly what they are doing. And so we 626 00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:33,600 Speaker 1: need to come to grips with how unbelievably effective they are, 627 00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:37,480 Speaker 1: how they have how they how effectively they have infiltrated 628 00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:40,600 Speaker 1: all of our institutions of power, how they control the narrative. 629 00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:43,439 Speaker 1: We're not winning this, it's not it's not a level 630 00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:45,960 Speaker 1: playing field. It's not a it's not a fair fight. 631 00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:49,600 Speaker 1: And when we have our elected officials, you're pretty well 632 00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:52,879 Speaker 1: cowtowing to the left as well, signing on to their 633 00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:55,920 Speaker 1: massive out of control depths and spending. It gets pretty 634 00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:59,880 Speaker 1: frustrating from my standpoint, not willing, really willing to admit, 635 00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:03,480 Speaker 1: you know, how far behind the eight ball we truly are, 636 00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:07,360 Speaker 1: and how our freedoms are so are still severely threatened. 637 00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:10,520 Speaker 1: Still listen, I appreciate Clay and Buck. You know how 638 00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:13,279 Speaker 1: effective you've been and how you've been outspoken about the 639 00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:17,000 Speaker 1: freedom's takeaway during the pandemic. You're one of the few. 640 00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:19,399 Speaker 1: I mean, there aren't many people the aren't many people 641 00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:22,280 Speaker 1: in Congress really streaming about what happened during the pandemic. 642 00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:24,600 Speaker 1: But but you have your eyes open we just need 643 00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:27,759 Speaker 1: to open up a whole lot more eyes. Amen. And 644 00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:30,000 Speaker 1: I'm still furious about it. Bucks out on his honeymoon 645 00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:32,759 Speaker 1: right now. You know, hopefully he's resting up so he 646 00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:36,320 Speaker 1: can come back ready for the fight. I'm still fired 647 00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:40,720 Speaker 1: up to about so many things. But just last week, Senator, 648 00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:43,279 Speaker 1: we had and I said, on Friday of last week, 649 00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:45,000 Speaker 1: I never would have believed that this would be the 650 00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:47,759 Speaker 1: topic that we would lead the show with. We had 651 00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:51,640 Speaker 1: a Chinese spy balloon go all the way from Alaska 652 00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:56,239 Speaker 1: across the entire United States and then exit off the 653 00:37:56,280 --> 00:38:00,200 Speaker 1: South Carolina coast. What in the world is going going 654 00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:04,080 Speaker 1: on that we allowed that to occur? And how is 655 00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:08,760 Speaker 1: it normalized in any way that a foreign adversarial country 656 00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:15,200 Speaker 1: is allowed to have a spy balloon that they control 657 00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:18,120 Speaker 1: and we just permit it to happen. I mean, sometimes 658 00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:20,080 Speaker 1: crazy things happen, and I think we get used to 659 00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:23,279 Speaker 1: them existing. I can't believe that that happened and that 660 00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:25,840 Speaker 1: basically people are like, well, it got shot down once 661 00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:28,400 Speaker 1: it was in South Carolina and no big deal. To me, 662 00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:31,480 Speaker 1: That's an unbelievable act of aggression by China. And I 663 00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:35,640 Speaker 1: thought Biden's response was incredibly weak. Well, one of the 664 00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:39,160 Speaker 1: points I've been making, the major points since this story's broken, 665 00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:42,480 Speaker 1: is why did it take so long for the administration 666 00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:46,480 Speaker 1: to start talking about this? Yeah, one of our huge 667 00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:49,720 Speaker 1: advantages is we haven't opened as society. Now it's also 668 00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:53,680 Speaker 1: a disadvantage, but we need to utilize that open society. 669 00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:57,960 Speaker 1: And what I've witnessed now that I'm in washingtonc I'm 670 00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:00,880 Speaker 1: not of this world. I'm an account I manufacturer, but 671 00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:06,239 Speaker 1: now that I'm there, we so overclassify material these you know, 672 00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:10,800 Speaker 1: information's power and so certainly within the administrations, and Congress 673 00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:13,239 Speaker 1: has just willingly give it up its constumation authority to 674 00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:17,160 Speaker 1: the executive branch and they take it. And one of 675 00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:18,960 Speaker 1: the reasons they made. One of the ways they maintain 676 00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:21,520 Speaker 1: power is they control all the information, which is why 677 00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:24,480 Speaker 1: it's going to be very difficult for the House tej 678 00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:26,840 Speaker 1: information out of the FBI. I mean, you're already seeing 679 00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:31,160 Speaker 1: the legal fight they're They're just given Comer and Jordan 680 00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:34,399 Speaker 1: the middle finger. They'll continue to do that. But we 681 00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:38,120 Speaker 1: need to be more transparent. We need to force transparency 682 00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:40,760 Speaker 1: out these administrations. And in terms of this Blue Instent, 683 00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:44,160 Speaker 1: we should have been made away this immediately. The administrations 684 00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:46,440 Speaker 1: should have talked about, hey, you know we have now 685 00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:49,799 Speaker 1: detected this and then laid out you know, if there's 686 00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:52,200 Speaker 1: a rationale for letting this come across so we can 687 00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:55,040 Speaker 1: track that tell of the American public about this. There's 688 00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:57,640 Speaker 1: no reason to keep this stuff secret. But they keep 689 00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:02,600 Speaker 1: a secret because they keep information and they maintain the power. 690 00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:07,640 Speaker 1: We need to demand greater transparency across the federal agency. Season. 691 00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:11,520 Speaker 1: Last question for you, and it's far less significant than 692 00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:14,720 Speaker 1: everything we've been talking about so far. Who wins Chief's 693 00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:19,440 Speaker 1: Eagles Super Bowl Sunday. You know I'm not a you know, 694 00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:21,960 Speaker 1: I don't make those predictions. I just hope for a 695 00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:24,279 Speaker 1: really good competitive game. I mean, I really I don't 696 00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:27,359 Speaker 1: care who wins. It's not the Green Bay Packers there, 697 00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:30,040 Speaker 1: so I don't care. I just want a really fun 698 00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:31,919 Speaker 1: game to watch, and that means it's a close game 699 00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:34,080 Speaker 1: and a fair game and not decided to buy a 700 00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:37,359 Speaker 1: stupid call. Want. I want to see excellence. I want 701 00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:40,080 Speaker 1: to see the competitors compete, and I want to see 702 00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:42,839 Speaker 1: a good, close game that somebody wins. I don't want 703 00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:44,600 Speaker 1: to see somebody lose it. I want to see somebody 704 00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:48,799 Speaker 1: win it, which is excellence outstanding. Have a good time 705 00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:50,879 Speaker 1: up in Wisconsin. We're excited to have you for six 706 00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:52,799 Speaker 1: more years and we appreciate you giving us some time 707 00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:56,120 Speaker 1: on this Friday. Enjoy the game, take care of We'll do. 708 00:40:56,920 --> 00:41:01,040 Speaker 1: Senator Ron Johnson there dodging a prediction. Just wants both 709 00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:03,799 Speaker 1: teams to play well. I can respect that unless the 710 00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:05,600 Speaker 1: Packers are involved. I know he's a big Packer fan, 711 00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:06,960 Speaker 1: and I got to figure out what they're gonna do 712 00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:08,719 Speaker 1: with Aaron Rodgers. 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I understand in 743 00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:43,560 Speaker 1: the open here we lost like fifteen seconds of audio. 744 00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:45,719 Speaker 1: You might have been like, oh my god, what's going on? 745 00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:47,239 Speaker 1: You know, could have been the Russians, could have been 746 00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:49,360 Speaker 1: the Chinese, could have also been just you know, a 747 00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:51,920 Speaker 1: little bit of a faulty link here in the Phoenix 748 00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:56,040 Speaker 1: office of the Clay and Buck phenomenon here appreciate all 749 00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:57,560 Speaker 1: of you, and Phoenix, by the way, one of about 750 00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:00,800 Speaker 1: fifteen or sixteen different cities in America, major cities in America, 751 00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:03,720 Speaker 1: pro sports cities in America where we're currently the number 752 00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:06,600 Speaker 1: one show in the country. But we started to play 753 00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:09,520 Speaker 1: a parody when we lost the dead air there for 754 00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:11,360 Speaker 1: like fifteen seconds. Some of you may have noticed at 755 00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:14,440 Speaker 1: the opening of the show, and I thought, Ali, the 756 00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:17,560 Speaker 1: crew took care of this, put charity together. Why not 757 00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:20,120 Speaker 1: go ahead and let you listen to the rest of 758 00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:24,160 Speaker 1: that charity here it is the case of the classified 759 00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:31,200 Speaker 1: docks that just kept turning up everywhere. It's a President. 760 00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:34,440 Speaker 1: It has been an absolute pleasure seving you this evening. 761 00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:39,440 Speaker 1: There's documents in the billy you just paid mister President. 762 00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:41,760 Speaker 1: I was walking commander on the soft line. It appears 763 00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:44,080 Speaker 1: he had some digestive issues. I couldn't use a doggy 764 00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:46,440 Speaker 1: bag if I didn't know better. I'd think he ate 765 00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:52,479 Speaker 1: some documents, mister President. I was doing laundry and found 766 00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:55,760 Speaker 1: a bunch of documents stuffed in some socks and parts. 767 00:43:57,360 --> 00:44:03,600 Speaker 1: There's no other there our ship Burger kpet Hard on 768 00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:10,880 Speaker 1: the phone, Hello, Dad, have you seen my laptop playing 769 00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:16,719 Speaker 1: Buck Voices of Sanity and Insane World? Well done by 770 00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:19,239 Speaker 1: the team there, Buck with a it doesn't do is 771 00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:22,560 Speaker 1: Joe Biden impersonation. I can't do impersonations. We dropped for 772 00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:24,880 Speaker 1: fifteen seconds. Though it might have given some people throwback 773 00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:28,400 Speaker 1: to when we did the OutKick the Coverage morning sports 774 00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:31,799 Speaker 1: talk show, it felt like that show never worked. We 775 00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:33,640 Speaker 1: had Trump on a couple of times, and my number 776 00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:36,120 Speaker 1: one fear. People were like, were you really nervous about 777 00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:38,680 Speaker 1: talking to the president the first time we had him on? 778 00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:41,719 Speaker 1: Second time? I said no, I wasn't very nervous. My 779 00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:46,359 Speaker 1: biggest fear was that our phones would just drop the president, right, 780 00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:48,959 Speaker 1: and so you're having an interview and suddenly you lose 781 00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:51,680 Speaker 1: the president. And it's because our you know, hamsters and 782 00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:54,879 Speaker 1: a wheel that was the tech supporting it managed to 783 00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:57,279 Speaker 1: drop the president. We kept him on so far, we 784 00:44:57,400 --> 00:44:59,000 Speaker 1: kept him on, to my knowledge, every time We've had 785 00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:01,239 Speaker 1: him on Clay and Buck too, but that's the only 786 00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:03,520 Speaker 1: real that's the only real fear. We got. A couple 787 00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:06,239 Speaker 1: of callers went to weigh in on a variety of 788 00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:10,560 Speaker 1: topics and let me see who is up first here Joshua, 789 00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:13,960 Speaker 1: twenty four year old truck driver in Virginia. We appreciate 790 00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:15,840 Speaker 1: all the truck drivers all over the country keeping the 791 00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:19,360 Speaker 1: country moving. What you got for me? Yes, sirs, is 792 00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:22,239 Speaker 1: honored to talk to you. You know, I'm I'm a 793 00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:23,880 Speaker 1: young man and you know a lot of I have 794 00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:26,440 Speaker 1: a lot of friends that are very liberal and you know, 795 00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:28,799 Speaker 1: refused to pay attention on what's going on and think 796 00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:31,799 Speaker 1: I'm just a conspiracy theorist. When I try to tell them, hey, 797 00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:33,799 Speaker 1: look you gotta wake up. This is what's going on, 798 00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:35,839 Speaker 1: and they just they call me crazy. You know, how 799 00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:37,759 Speaker 1: do I wake up my generation? You know? What do 800 00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:40,600 Speaker 1: we do? It's a great question. Thanks for the call. 801 00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:44,080 Speaker 1: It's something that Buck and I actually talk about quite 802 00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:47,279 Speaker 1: a bit, and it's frankly, one of the things we 803 00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:50,560 Speaker 1: hear the most since we have taken over for Rush 804 00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:52,680 Speaker 1: is I know a lot of you out there, long 805 00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:55,480 Speaker 1: time Rush listeners. You're in your sixties and seventies. I 806 00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:58,480 Speaker 1: was actually out to dinner with a couple on Tuesday night, 807 00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:03,719 Speaker 1: big listeners here in the Phoenix area, and there's a concern. 808 00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:06,720 Speaker 1: I think if you're in your sixties, seventies, eighties, maybe older, 809 00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:09,000 Speaker 1: and you're listening right now about the direction that the 810 00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:12,640 Speaker 1: country is going to go, I am optimistic one, because 811 00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:16,399 Speaker 1: I am an optimist in general. Two, I think we're 812 00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:18,520 Speaker 1: going to see a spin back in a big way. 813 00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:21,719 Speaker 1: And I talked about this on Memorial Day with the 814 00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:24,799 Speaker 1: success of Top Gun Maverick. I think there is a 815 00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:31,200 Speaker 1: desperate demand for America is awesome content. And I think 816 00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:35,440 Speaker 1: that there has been such a denigration of America that 817 00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:39,200 Speaker 1: has gone on frankly over the last decade or so, 818 00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:45,239 Speaker 1: that there is a desperate want out there in this country. 819 00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:48,760 Speaker 1: And I think young kids, this is interesting to think about, 820 00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:55,600 Speaker 1: are going to rebel against this woke culture, because most kids, 821 00:46:56,080 --> 00:47:00,800 Speaker 1: for better or worse, rebel to some degree again whatever 822 00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:04,960 Speaker 1: their parents are embracing. And I think you're going to 823 00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:08,600 Speaker 1: see in this young group, I really do a repudiation 824 00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:12,319 Speaker 1: of woke culture and the woke mindset, the idea that 825 00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:15,319 Speaker 1: you're offended by jokes. I can see the germination of 826 00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:18,239 Speaker 1: this just beginning, and so that's how I'm optimistic. I 827 00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:21,399 Speaker 1: think you do it by loving freedom and embracing fund 828 00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:23,279 Speaker 1: which is what we try to do every day. Up next, 829 00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:24,280 Speaker 1: Senator Ron Johnson,