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Speaker 2: To show down.

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Speaker 1: Dive down the thirty one yard line. Oh God is beautiful.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the twenty Huddle Podcast presented by Microsoft, and

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Speaker 1: I am happy to welcome in David Correo, with the

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Speaker 1: defensive assistant outside linebackers coach for the Detroit Lions. And David,

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Speaker 1: I want to start with this because I've been kind

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Speaker 1: of excited to have you on, and again I think

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Speaker 1: this has been a great platform to have some of

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Speaker 1: the assistant coaches on. Kind of we don't get a

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Speaker 1: chance to talk to you guys a whole lot and

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Speaker 1: just get a chance to see what you guys are about.

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Speaker 1: And you know, Ky, you kind of fit into the

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Speaker 1: grand scheme of the coaching staff. But one thing, you

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Speaker 1: were the former director of football research here. I've always

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Speaker 1: been curious what that job entails. So Monday on a

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Speaker 1: work week, what is put on your desk? What is

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Speaker 1: the director of research? Is this highly classified? Can you

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Speaker 1: talk about this?

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Speaker 2: Is this?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Well, it's for a coaching staff and an operation

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Speaker 3: that's not here anymore. I think the simplest way to

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Speaker 3: describe it was I worked with both sides of the football,

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Speaker 3: but I didn't work for either side, so I had

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Speaker 3: certain responsibilities. So one of the things that Matt had

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Speaker 3: asked me to do was because of my defensive background,

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Speaker 3: was put together the presentation to meet with the quarterbacks.

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Speaker 3: So we would go over the other team's secondary, the strengths,

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Speaker 3: the weaknesses of the dbs, any type of coverage issues

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Speaker 3: or tels or weaknesses, and I would put together presentation.

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Speaker 3: I would meet with Matt and then we would go

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Speaker 3: in and make that presentation to the quarterbacks. Then defensively,

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Speaker 3: I worked with Al Golden for two years help coach

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Speaker 3: the outside guys, the defensive ends, and then on game

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Speaker 3: day I did personnel for the defense, helped do the

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Speaker 3: adjustments and the changes. Uh, you know, it was just

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Speaker 1: Now you're back coaching outside linebackers. Do you like having

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Speaker 1: the group the guys being in that in that in

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Speaker 3: Again, it's a it's a it's not well, what happens

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Speaker 3: is what we're doing is there's a bridge. Right. You

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Speaker 3: have certain guys on our team that depending upon what

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Speaker 3: And so because what those guys do on the end

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Speaker 3: takes away from the inside guys. But then there's times

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Speaker 3: when they're going to be in the D line room

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Speaker 3: and so it's just it's a it's a group way.

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Speaker 3: They're kind of caught in between. And if you don't

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Speaker 1: James Houston, Julian Aquara and Charles Charles Harris.

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Speaker 3: You know, you'll see sometimes in the past we had

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Speaker 3: Anthony Pittman doing that. He's more inside backer now. And

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Speaker 3: then we'll have certain personnel packages while the guys from

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Speaker 3: like Hutch, like Romeo So, like Zach Morton, right, and

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Speaker 3: again there's just certain unique things that those guys have

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Speaker 1: Speaking of guy like James Houston, what's the big emphasis

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Speaker 1: You know, you know, Dave, we see all the time

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Speaker 1: You know, everybody talks about that being a real thing.

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Speaker 1: What's been the point of emphasis for James as it

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Speaker 3: I would say emphasis on attention to detail. He can't

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Speaker 3: And that just comes down to fundamentals and technique.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So does he have this skill set to play

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Speaker 2: Does he have that skill set to do multiple things?

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Speaker 3: Absolutely? I mean, if you look at his background, he

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Speaker 1: Is Charles Harris an important guy to that room in

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Speaker 1: He wasn't a hand in the dirt guy. He was

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Speaker 3: Guys, Charles is a tremendous veteran leadership presence. He does

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Speaker 1: Good to have him backalth.

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Speaker 3: A healthy Charles Harris is going to make us a

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Speaker 1: I mean, people forget he was the seven and a

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Speaker 1: You guys are you know, kind of reunited and you

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Speaker 3: Right? He and I have a very unique relationship because

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Speaker 3: that you demand. The drills we refer back to all

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Speaker 3: He and I will constantly referm back to, Okay, when

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Speaker 3: I've been with him for was it for two years

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Speaker 3: he he had that player's mentality, that toughness, that leadership.

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Speaker 3: But you always knew in the back of your mind,

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Speaker 3: It's like a quarterback out there. And you know, so

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Speaker 3: for me to watch him go going into year three

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Speaker 3: And here I am, fourteen years into this league, still

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Speaker 2: It seems like a fun room.

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Speaker 3: It is. It's a fun room because we're it's very structured,

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Speaker 3: it's very organized. We know exactly what we got to

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Speaker 3: The guys making sure you know, we talk about all

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Speaker 3: And the players have ultimate faith that what they're being

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Speaker 3: prepared for is what they're going to see. And that's

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Speaker 3: why because the guy there's there's no questions or iffans

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Speaker 3: It starts with ships. That's the culture he's built in

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm curious. It was almost like a tale of

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Speaker 1: first seven games was what it was, you know, thirty

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Speaker 1: But I think a lot of people realize that number

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Speaker 1: best in the NFL. In your eyes, what was the

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Speaker 1: biggest difference you saw from the first half of the

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Speaker 3: Think multiple things? I think you just it's a constantly

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Speaker 3: evolving process. Right. What you're doing in week one shouldn't

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Speaker 3: be you should be identifying the things that you're good at,

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Speaker 3: the things that you're having trouble with. I think AG

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Speaker 1: Looking at those last ten games, do you see the

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Speaker 1: Julian Acquia. It seems like a pretty important season for

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Speaker 2: As we maybe can see. How important of a season

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Speaker 3: Julian I think he's he's had an as good an

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Speaker 1: I think he's in a short period of time, right,

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Speaker 2: Nope, not at all.

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Speaker 3: I think there's a good foundation there, and competition is

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Speaker 1: What's a quote, competition breed success right, one hundred percent?

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Speaker 1: You know, it's not the underwear Olympics where I'm training

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Speaker 3: We'll go back to what you brought up before, right,

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Speaker 3: overcome a lot of things on defense, and that's that's

438
00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:16,760
Speaker 3: I think the goal of what we're trying to do

439
00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:20,240
Speaker 3: is stream this, streamline this thing down. Let these guys

440
00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:23,240
Speaker 3: get lined up and play fast, and good things will happen.

441
00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:23,879
Speaker 2: Speed.

442
00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:26,760
Speaker 1: Violence Is that the identity that you want this defense

443
00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:27,000
Speaker 1: to be?

444
00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:29,639
Speaker 3: I hope. So, I mean, come on the way that

445
00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:34,200
Speaker 3: the rule book is constantly slanted towards the offense. Good

446
00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:37,280
Speaker 3: that that's makes people watch the game. So what do

447
00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:41,280
Speaker 3: we do on defense? To create an advantage for ourselves well,

448
00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:45,320
Speaker 3: our speed, our violence, our aggressiveness, our ability to put

449
00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:48,280
Speaker 3: the offense back on their heels. That's the only advantage

450
00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:50,639
Speaker 3: we have. We don't get a rules advantage. Right. You

451
00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:53,479
Speaker 3: can't touch a receiver past five yards, okay, So how

452
00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:56,359
Speaker 3: do you disrupt the receiver once it gets past five yards?

453
00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:58,960
Speaker 3: Pressure the quarterback? Yeah, and all those things have to

454
00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:02,760
Speaker 3: be married together for us to take advantage. And that

455
00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:07,600
Speaker 3: starts with speed, violence, aggressiveness, pursuit to the ball, you

456
00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:08,560
Speaker 3: know that type of stuff.

457
00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:11,560
Speaker 1: I think five rookies at one point last year, we're

458
00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:14,800
Speaker 1: making considerable contributions on defense. The second half of the season.

459
00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:18,240
Speaker 1: We talked about the additions that the veteran guys that

460
00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:21,280
Speaker 1: were adding free agency, and even guys like Jack and

461
00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:25,960
Speaker 1: Brian and Broderick in the draft. I'm just curious, do

462
00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:29,520
Speaker 1: you like where this defense is at just heading into

463
00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:33,760
Speaker 1: training camp. Those guys got a lot of experience. You've

464
00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:38,280
Speaker 1: added those vet guys. It just seems like you're in

465
00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:40,480
Speaker 1: a good spot with a good mix of veteran guys,

466
00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:44,200
Speaker 1: young guys that have experience. Just seems like all the

467
00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:46,399
Speaker 1: right pieces are kind of falling into place. Obviously you've

468
00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:48,480
Speaker 1: got to see it with pads, and they'll decide that

469
00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:50,520
Speaker 1: on the field, But as a coach looking at it,

470
00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:52,680
Speaker 1: do you think you got the right pieces to make

471
00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:56,320
Speaker 1: a considerable improvement on that side of the football.

472
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Speaker 3: So, I mean I see bigger people upfront, Like that's

473
00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:02,760
Speaker 3: the first and foremost that I like, you know, you

474
00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:04,840
Speaker 3: look out there. I always look at football is a

475
00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:07,520
Speaker 3: big man's game, especially upfront, you know, bringing in those

476
00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:12,840
Speaker 3: young defensive linemen. Those guys are giants. But at the

477
00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:15,240
Speaker 3: end of the day, we're still running around in shirts

478
00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:17,359
Speaker 3: and T shirt shirts and shorts, and so it's like

479
00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:19,879
Speaker 3: I've been doing this long enough that I don't I

480
00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:24,560
Speaker 3: try not to make judgments until we put the pads.

481
00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:28,399
Speaker 2: Sometimes probably it is, well what.

482
00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:31,080
Speaker 3: Happens is there's certain things you want to see that

483
00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:34,080
Speaker 3: are like like like I go through me personally again,

484
00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:36,639
Speaker 3: like I'm not the final decision maker, but like for

485
00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:39,000
Speaker 3: my level of confidence in what we're doing, Like I

486
00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:42,960
Speaker 3: have certain little checks like you know, okay, that's good,

487
00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:45,240
Speaker 3: that's good, Okay, we didn't do that maybe and that's

488
00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:48,240
Speaker 3: maybe a cost or concern and and those are those

489
00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:50,120
Speaker 3: are the things that I kind of make mental notes

490
00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:52,800
Speaker 3: on but at the end of the day, I want

491
00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:56,080
Speaker 3: to see it out there when you know, shoulder pads, helmets.

492
00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:59,000
Speaker 3: I think one of the greatest things that the teams

493
00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:01,359
Speaker 3: in the NFL have started to do around the league

494
00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:04,480
Speaker 3: is the practicing for two or three days when the

495
00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:07,400
Speaker 3: other teams come here, we go there like you get

496
00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:10,440
Speaker 3: to see like that to me was like my first

497
00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:13,160
Speaker 3: experience with that. We never once did that my entire

498
00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:15,440
Speaker 3: eight years in Miami, we never did that really, And

499
00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:17,920
Speaker 3: so when Matt did that when we got here, and

500
00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:19,760
Speaker 3: then that was an interesting So you ask what I

501
00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:23,080
Speaker 3: did research every day, I would have a little sticky

502
00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:25,880
Speaker 3: on my desk with a name from the other team

503
00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:29,680
Speaker 3: and they would want me to evaluate that guy. And

504
00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:31,720
Speaker 3: there was a second name on the sticky compare a

505
00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:34,639
Speaker 3: to b in our team, and it was a great wit.

506
00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:37,080
Speaker 3: It's like, it's how we found Romeo if you remember that,

507
00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:38,200
Speaker 3: that's how we found Romeo.

508
00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:38,520
Speaker 1: Really.

509
00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:42,520
Speaker 3: When the Giants came here, Romeo was very disruptive at practice.

510
00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:46,320
Speaker 3: And when the Giants cut Romeo at the final cuts,

511
00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:48,960
Speaker 3: Bob swooped in and said, okay, we'll take that guy.

512
00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:49,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, what do you have?

513
00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:51,320
Speaker 3: Eight seven and a half eight sacks for us to

514
00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:55,440
Speaker 3: first like, he became one of our productive players. So yeah,

515
00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:58,800
Speaker 3: you get those, you get those of value, those valuations

516
00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:01,920
Speaker 3: of your own guys, and then exposure to the other guys,

517
00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:05,600
Speaker 3: you get a you get a apples to apples comparison

518
00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:10,160
Speaker 3: in practice, sure, watching our starters go against their starters.

519
00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:13,800
Speaker 3: And then the second benefit of that is the young

520
00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:17,320
Speaker 3: players who don't get as many reps in practice because

521
00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:19,400
Speaker 3: the vets and the kyl the top end guys don't

522
00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:21,640
Speaker 3: play nearly as much, if at all, in the game. Right,

523
00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:25,440
Speaker 3: you get thirty five extra plays when you're a young guy. Okay,

524
00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:28,600
Speaker 3: can this kid handle a game? So that's the stuff.

525
00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:30,920
Speaker 3: I really like that stuff.

526
00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:32,240
Speaker 1: And as a coach, you've got to love you there's

527
00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:34,080
Speaker 1: certain situations that might not come up in a game,

528
00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:35,960
Speaker 1: in a preseason game too, that you want to see

529
00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:38,280
Speaker 1: a guy what can he do in this situation?

530
00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:41,040
Speaker 2: Third and whatever? This call?

531
00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:43,240
Speaker 1: You might not get to that in the preseason game.

532
00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:46,000
Speaker 1: And so in the joint practice that's a very controlled

533
00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:49,440
Speaker 1: entirement and you can put guys in all kinds of

534
00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:53,399
Speaker 1: situations that you want to see them in. The coaches

535
00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:55,600
Speaker 1: now say nowadays say they get more out of those

536
00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:57,400
Speaker 1: practices than they do the preseason games.

537
00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:01,760
Speaker 3: One hundred percent. Yeah, perfect example. We you rarely bring

538
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:04,920
Speaker 3: goal line to the preseason, right because you might not

539
00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:07,480
Speaker 3: you know, like to check off the people. We go

540
00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:09,719
Speaker 3: down to Indy last year, there's a period of goal

541
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:12,680
Speaker 3: line in practice, so we're gonna find out, Okay, who

542
00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:15,600
Speaker 3: who's gonna nut up on the on the two yard

543
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:18,400
Speaker 3: line and violent collision when you know, when it goes

544
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:21,040
Speaker 3: back to what Derek Barnes had the great hit against

545
00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:23,920
Speaker 3: green Bay, stopped the running back from green Bay right there,

546
00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:26,600
Speaker 3: stoned him on the one yard line, Like Derek did

547
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:29,640
Speaker 3: that in preseason against you know, that type of play

548
00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:33,920
Speaker 3: showed up in the practice against Indy. So like, yeah,

549
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:37,480
Speaker 3: those to me, it is valuable experience. Man, that's stuff

550
00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:38,200
Speaker 3: this big time.

551
00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:39,280
Speaker 2: And you get two of them this year he got

552
00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:41,200
Speaker 2: Jacksonville and Giants.

553
00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:43,199
Speaker 3: Right. Plus it breaks the monotony. If I think our

554
00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:46,560
Speaker 3: players get tired of running into their teammates, that's the

555
00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:47,119
Speaker 3: big one too.

556
00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:49,720
Speaker 2: There's some juice in those practices too. There's some trash talking.

557
00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:51,480
Speaker 1: And they got that man with guys like CJ and

558
00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:53,480
Speaker 1: Trace and those guys that should be it should be

559
00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:54,480
Speaker 1: a fun environment.

560
00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:56,800
Speaker 3: They have I think they have like what I think

561
00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:59,720
Speaker 3: it is, they all have professional pride. They don't ever

562
00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:02,439
Speaker 3: want want to look bad because that one play might

563
00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:04,480
Speaker 3: be what they fixate on and say, Okay, we got

564
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:06,560
Speaker 3: to move on from this guy. And so they they

565
00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:10,560
Speaker 3: they bring their a game, especially when there's a guy

566
00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:12,600
Speaker 3: in a different uniform wind up on a crossroom. They

567
00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:15,040
Speaker 3: ever want to look bad. And I've always respected that

568
00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:18,000
Speaker 3: about like like that's like young players, rookies, like you

569
00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:20,160
Speaker 3: have to learn that. But when you watch those those

570
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:23,000
Speaker 3: multi year vet guys, those those experienced veterans, they know.

571
00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:24,159
Speaker 2: A couple more.

572
00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:26,840
Speaker 1: For you, Dave, do you get a sense that these guys,

573
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:28,680
Speaker 1: the guys on defense are hungry.

574
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:33,240
Speaker 3: I think so. I think they. I think in last

575
00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:35,840
Speaker 3: year's last year totally different team, but there's a mentality

576
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:38,960
Speaker 3: and a and a culture, and I think they got

577
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:42,320
Speaker 3: so close, you know. And and let me I just

578
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:45,240
Speaker 3: put it from my own perspective. When we were home

579
00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:49,680
Speaker 3: during vacation, if there guys felt anything like me. I

580
00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:51,320
Speaker 3: was out to dinner with the family and they had

581
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:53,639
Speaker 3: The Giants and the Vikings on the TV, and I

582
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:56,000
Speaker 3: had to turn my back to the TV. I couldn't

583
00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:59,359
Speaker 3: watch it. It was like that should be us, right,

584
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:03,160
Speaker 3: and so hopefully that's that's the hunger that these guys

585
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:05,359
Speaker 3: that come back, we bring the new guys that they

586
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:07,840
Speaker 3: see how the guys that come back, that to me

587
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:11,199
Speaker 3: is like, that's we need to be in this year.

588
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:12,840
Speaker 3: Like I want to go.

589
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:16,320
Speaker 2: I likes want to see you guys go too.

590
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 3: I like our team because we're tough, like we make

591
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:23,920
Speaker 3: you play a brand of football that a lot of

592
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:25,720
Speaker 3: teams in this league don't like to play. And I

593
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 3: think that that comes from Dan and the head coach

594
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:31,320
Speaker 3: sets a culture around here that we do things like, well,

595
00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:33,199
Speaker 3: here you go, you're in for it when you play us.

596
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:35,639
Speaker 1: So so I hear you go into your office. You

597
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:41,040
Speaker 1: see quite a few superheroes around. So Marvel DC first off,

598
00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:42,120
Speaker 1: and who's your favorite guy?

599
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:45,240
Speaker 3: I always like that, Like the Marveling of total total

600
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:47,600
Speaker 3: Marvel movie comic book to work. I get it. You

601
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 3: know my kids, My kids are in on it too.

602
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:53,159
Speaker 3: They like it. They we watched the movies together. I

603
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:54,960
Speaker 3: think in our house the big one is iron Man,

604
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:57,720
Speaker 3: like we were big Tony Stark fans, like all the

605
00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:00,920
Speaker 3: iron Man. Can't get enough of that uh, you know

606
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:03,400
Speaker 3: the the and then there's all of it's really good.

607
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:06,560
Speaker 3: It's just it's such good entertainment. Like you go to

608
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:08,680
Speaker 3: a movie and check your brain at the door and

609
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,200
Speaker 3: in there for a couple of hours. You smile, you laugh,

610
00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 3: you get pumped up.

611
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:14,200
Speaker 1: I think your kids are like drawn superhero guys, and

612
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 1: you've got somebody my kids up in your office and my.

613
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,360
Speaker 3: Kid my every time I go home, my younger daughter

614
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:22,119
Speaker 3: Shay will have Daddy, I drew this for you, or Daddy,

615
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:25,520
Speaker 3: I wrote this for you, and like, like I came home,

616
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:28,520
Speaker 3: they came up here for a home game, and they

617
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:30,119
Speaker 3: walk in the house and they got the little stuff

618
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:32,600
Speaker 3: black panther. Daddy, we found this at the airport, and

619
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:34,080
Speaker 3: I'm like, and I love it, so I put it

620
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:36,440
Speaker 3: up all over like you know, artwork. Stuff like that

621
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 3: just just keeps it light and just reminds me that,

622
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:42,320
Speaker 3: you know, got a family that cares and they love

623
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 3: football too.

624
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:46,120
Speaker 1: That's an important part of because your coaches spend so

625
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 1: much time here, especially during the season. How important is

626
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 1: it to have that balance and how much can that

627
00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:54,160
Speaker 1: make you a better football coach too? Having that home

628
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:56,240
Speaker 1: work life balance, the.

629
00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 3: Homework life balance is really hard. Exact that's the hardest thing,

630
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 3: like just to just not enough time in the day.

631
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:04,960
Speaker 3: And you know, there's a number of coaches on our

632
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 3: staff that are like me. We've got a little bit

633
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 3: of different setup. Like my wife and kids live in Naples, Florida,

634
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 3: and that's where they live full times. In the offseason.

635
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 3: I'll go there back and forth. During the season, they'll

636
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 3: come up for home games, and uh it it it creates,

637
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:24,440
Speaker 3: it gives me. It makes me feel better because that's

638
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:27,960
Speaker 3: their permanent space. We got into a certain kind of

639
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 3: thing where my younger daughter didn't go to the same

640
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 3: school for two, three, four years in a row, and

641
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 3: it was like, all right, we got to get some

642
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:41,240
Speaker 3: stability here and the home work balanced like for me,

643
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:45,560
Speaker 3: is more about stability. It's like, I know, now my

644
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:47,160
Speaker 3: kids are going to be in the same schools for

645
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:49,120
Speaker 3: a while, They're gonna have the same friends for a while.

646
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 3: I don't want them. I don't want their life to

647
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 3: ride the roller coaster of success and failure in coaching,

648
00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:01,160
Speaker 3: and to them it doesn't. I try not to let

649
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 3: it affect them. Yeah, you don't bring the office home

650
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 3: like after a game we win great everybody's happy. But

651
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 3: if we don't, like at the end of the day,

652
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:12,320
Speaker 3: I don't you know, the girls don't care. They just

653
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:14,920
Speaker 3: don't want time with dad, and it's like, can't beat that.

654
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:15,960
Speaker 2: You can't beat that.

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Speaker 1: And it's gonna be such a fun training camp. A

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Speaker 1: lot of competition, especially in your room, a lot of

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Speaker 1: competition throughout this entire roster, and like we said before,

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Speaker 1: competition breeds excess, a lot of expectations for this defense.

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Speaker 1: You can play a part in that. Thank you so

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Speaker 1: much for joining me. It's gonna be fun when training

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Speaker 1: camp kicks off. And thanks for taking the time.

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Speaker 3: Apprecireciate it. Thank you for having me.