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Speaker 1: Hello Texans, Welcome to the show. We are in Indianapolis.

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Speaker 1: Mark Vandermaer, John Harris with you, and we've got a

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Speaker 1: whale of a few days coming your way here from

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Speaker 1: the scouting Combine. It's going to be fun coming up

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Speaker 1: later this week, Greg cosell, Ian Rappaport, among many others.

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Speaker 1: So you want to stick around every night at six

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Speaker 1: and in podcast form on the Odyssey app and on

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Speaker 1: Spotify Houston Texans dot Com. Tonight, let's kick off the

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Speaker 1: show with the executive vice president and general Manager, Nick Cassario.

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Speaker 1: Johnny Harris and I visited with Nick on a radio

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Speaker 1: row and talked about a number of things, including getting

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Speaker 1: to the combine and getting ready for the work to

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Speaker 2: I think the big thing for us, sim Lean Dimiko

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Speaker 2: and I got in yesterday, So the big thing is

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Speaker 2: kind of getting ready for the interviews and really the

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Speaker 2: interpersonal component, trying to spend time with the players on

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Speaker 2: a personal level. I think when you look across the league,

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Speaker 2: I mean to your point, Mark, some staffs are here,

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Speaker 2: some aren't here. A lot of it is just time

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Speaker 2: and resource allocation. Some of it has to do with

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Speaker 2: the way the scheduling is set up, and you've had

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Speaker 2: a lot of turnover league wide on a staff front,

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Speaker 2: so they might feel their better serve to kind of

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Speaker 2: stay back and kind of work on playbook, some of

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Speaker 2: the other staffing with some of the other things. So

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Speaker 2: eventually everybody's gonna get the information that they need from

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Speaker 2: this place, and then you're gonna have touch points with

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Speaker 2: the players, whether it's here or whether it's thirty man

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Speaker 2: visits or whether it's a pro day. So it continues

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Speaker 2: to evolve on a yearly basis. So I think the

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Speaker 2: big thing for us is just try to get the

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Speaker 2: information that we need and just kind of keep the

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Speaker 2: ball moving get ready for you know, the next couple

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Speaker 2: of months.

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Speaker 3: I gotta say, I am a little disappointed.

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Speaker 4: Well, I thought you would be on team Harris with

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Speaker 4: the vest I do have, so I actually.

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Speaker 2: Have one up in the room. Yeah that this is

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Speaker 2: kind of a hoodie. I know I've been on the

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Speaker 2: hoodie program here program too.

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Speaker 3: But I thought I'm gonna break the vest out today

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Speaker 3: because I know.

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Speaker 2: I like that one. I don't even think I have

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Speaker 2: that one.

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Speaker 3: That's a good one exactly.

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Speaker 4: It's a little bigger than you in your presser and

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Speaker 4: in talking with the Houston media, you're asked numerous time

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Speaker 4: it's about CJ and his going forward, to people asking

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Speaker 4: about trades and things like that. You're father to Manstrum

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Speaker 4: about your thoughts. What are your thoughts about CJ going for.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he's our quarterback, Glad, he's our quarterback.

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Speaker 2: I mean all of us have areas and things that

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Speaker 2: we can improve on individually, collectively as a team, and

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Speaker 2: that's what the off season is about. So CJ's played

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Speaker 2: a lot of good football. He's had a positive influence

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Speaker 2: and impact on the program. There's always things that all

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Speaker 2: of us can do better, and I'm sure when we

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Speaker 2: kind of take a step back, you want to look

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Speaker 2: at what we accomplished during the year. What are some

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Speaker 2: areas that you know we did well. What are some

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Speaker 2: of the things that we did well. What are some

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Speaker 2: of the airs that need to improve And that's what

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Speaker 2: the off season is about. It's about improvement. You want

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Speaker 2: to reflect on what happened, but you can't spend too

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Speaker 2: much time on what happened because we kind of have

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Speaker 2: to prepare for what's in front of us.

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Speaker 5: Well.

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Speaker 1: Also, you don't want to take one game and say

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Speaker 1: that's the whole season, right, because we're going over some

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Speaker 1: of the numbers of the season. You improve greatly at

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Speaker 1: the quarterback position from twenty four to twenty five, and

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Speaker 1: so many key statistical categories Nike even over twenty three

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Speaker 2: You said it Mark, And honestly, we probably after about

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Speaker 2: four weeks from that point on, you know, we played

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Speaker 2: pretty good football offensively, and played pretty good football as

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Speaker 2: a team, and we won nine games or ten games

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Speaker 2: big thing is, all right, trying to figure out what

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Speaker 2: are some of the things that we can build on

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Speaker 2: and improve. I mean, taking care of the football is

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Speaker 2: of the utmost importance, not only for us, but when

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Speaker 2: you look around the league. So that's always going to

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Speaker 2: be a focus, and the quarterbacks involved in that. So,

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Speaker 2: whether it's Davis, whether it's CJ, whether it's Graham Mertz

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Speaker 4: I think it's fascinating, Nick, You've done this for over

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Speaker 4: two decades, building the team for insert year in this

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Speaker 4: case twenty twenty six. When you got here in twenty

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Speaker 4: twenty one, we were in a different spot. I think

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Speaker 4: everybody knows that, and you had to go about building

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Speaker 4: then all of a sudden we got to a different

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Speaker 4: spot and we see kind.

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Speaker 3: Of evolve year over year.

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Speaker 4: I would think that makes the team building process for

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Speaker 4: you and Demico really kind of exciting, like, Okay, where

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Speaker 3: Kind of football existentialism?

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Speaker 6: Where are we?

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Speaker 3: What are we?

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Speaker 4: What do we have to do to take the next step?

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Speaker 4: In twenty twenty six? Is that the way you kind

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Speaker 4: of look at it, and even you think back to

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Speaker 4: those that first year doing our combined interview to where

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Speaker 4: we are now. We're a different program, a different team,

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Speaker 4: a different organization, but I would think there's probably some

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Speaker 4: real fun excitement in that for.

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Speaker 2: You, absolutely, and even going back when we first took

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Speaker 2: over in twenty one, it might have been different, but

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Speaker 2: the thought process is very similar. Right, So, all right,

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Speaker 2: understand where we are, what are the resources that you have,

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Speaker 2: Who are the players that are under contract, who are

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Speaker 2: the players that are free agents, what's the market look like,

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Speaker 2: what are our options, what's our flexibility? I mean, this

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Speaker 2: and it's very fluid and you have a fixed point

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Speaker 2: relative to we know the draft is the end of April. Okay,

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Speaker 2: that's that we're here to talk about that. But for that,

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Speaker 2: like free agency is going to start here in a

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Speaker 2: few weeks, so we're prepared for that. And what are

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Speaker 2: the options? Understand the markets, understand and supply demand, Understand

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Speaker 2: who's available. So there's an element. You got to stay nimble.

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Speaker 2: You gotta adjust and adapt, you gotta stay flexible, and

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Speaker 2: you can't get married to one particular way of doing it.

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Speaker 2: Explore multiple options and try to figure out what makes

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Speaker 2: just make sure you communicate as a staff and you're

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Speaker 2: not going to do anything kind of in a vacuum

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Speaker 2: and side Well, it's this group says this, This group

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Speaker 2: says that, how do we view it as a scouting staff?

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Speaker 2: How do you use the coaching staff? Well, how does

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Speaker 2: Demiko view the player? Okay? Great? Is it a fit? Okay?

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Speaker 2: Then we can kind of figure out the finance the

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Speaker 2: financial component of that. Does it fit? Does it not?

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Speaker 2: So it is. It's a lot of fun. We really

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Speaker 2: enjoy it. Every day is kind of a little bit different.

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Speaker 2: You really never know what's going to happen, but you

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Speaker 2: just got to be ready to act and then just

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Speaker 2: keep pressing forward.

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Speaker 1: You we talked about the evolution of the combine. What

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Speaker 1: about the evolution of the athletes you're drafting in the

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Speaker 1: NIL world coming out of college, Nick, How are they.

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Speaker 5: Different, if at all? Because it affects the way I

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Speaker 5: watch college sports.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, these guys are getting paid, and some of

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Speaker 5: How does it affect them as you look at them?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just looking we're in a different era. I mean,

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Speaker 2: everybody understands that. And again, our job is not to

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Speaker 2: be judgmental. Our job is just to understand the situation,

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Speaker 2: understands the circumstances, understand the individual player and irrationale behind

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Speaker 2: the decisions that they're making. Obviously, it's a positive for

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Speaker 2: some players because they get to play more football, so

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Speaker 2: that means you can evaluate more snaps. They might be

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Speaker 2: more prepared to transition. You're looking at some players started

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Speaker 2: be prepared for the rigors of what they're gonna have

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Speaker 2: to enduring. It doesn't mean they're going to be like

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Speaker 2: the perfect player, but they might be further along in

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Speaker 2: their development than they would have been otherwise if they

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Speaker 2: didn't have this opportunity. So every player is a little

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Speaker 2: bit different, Every situation is a little bit different. I

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Speaker 2: mean the money's the money. I mean some players are

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Speaker 2: making more money than others, just like some players are

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Speaker 2: making more money in our league than others as well.

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Speaker 2: So it's just kind of a microcosm of what's going

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Speaker 4: And one of the things that is happening gonna numbers

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Speaker 4: NIO and because of transfer portal, there aren't as many

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Speaker 4: underclassmen declaring for the draft. And I know you guys

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Speaker 4: track the underclassman as you go, but does that change

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Speaker 4: anything for you guys that you're not having as many

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Speaker 4: underclassmen Because I know you come here that we talked

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Speaker 4: talk to some of the underclassmen you haven't had a

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Speaker 2: For sure, And this comes back to basic economics. It's

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Speaker 2: about supplying demand. So we've gone from one hundred and

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Speaker 2: so the pool has been cut in half. So okay,

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Speaker 2: who are the players who's available? What are our options?

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Speaker 2: Understanding that pool of players? You know we're gonna probably

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Speaker 2: we've probably talked to we'll have talked to two fifty

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Speaker 2: three hundred players between All Star Game Combine visits. Doesn't

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Speaker 2: mean we're gonna draft all those players. We're probably gonna

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Speaker 2: pair that down into a workable number. It says, Okay,

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Speaker 2: these are the players that kind of fit the profile

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Speaker 2: that he's in Texan. So that's kind of how we

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Speaker 2: go about that process.

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Speaker 1: Nick, what can you share with us about how the

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Speaker 1: medical process works? Because we know Texans medical personnel are

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Speaker 1: on hand giving physicals to the players.

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Speaker 5: So these guys have to go through a lot of physicals.

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Speaker 5: Is that limited to a certain amount of teams? How

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Speaker 5: does all that work?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so every team has a representative from their medical side,

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Speaker 2: so all the team doctors are here, so I mean,

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Speaker 2: I think they distribute their responsibilities. Some players go to

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Speaker 2: this group, but everybody gets the same information. So the

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Speaker 2: benefit is it's all centrally located, so all the players

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Speaker 2: have to go through whatever the medical process is, so

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Speaker 2: you kind of get a medical report.

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Speaker 3: Some of this.

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Speaker 2: You may know about the player, what their condition is.

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Speaker 2: Maybe it's better, maybe it's worse, okay, Or a player

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Speaker 2: the big thing. I mean, the hospitals are here, they

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Speaker 2: an no on field component, there's an off field component

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Speaker 2: in the interviews. So that's why you know they set

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like people don't always understand it's not

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think the offensive lineman I appreciate not having

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Speaker 2: They're chasing somebody, They're chasing some Dan Conley returning to kickoff, well,

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Speaker 1: Exactly ten yards hit, somebody run another five and that's

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Speaker 1: pretty much it. Nick free agency approaching, as you said,

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Speaker 2: Now you're balancing a lot of information and a lot

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Speaker 4: Like Albert Haynesworth signed that contract at twelve oh one,

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Speaker 3: Well he made that contract at one minute.

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Speaker 4: We're at we're at the Senior Bowl. James, you mentioned

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Speaker 3: But you're having that happen more often.

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Speaker 4: How much more prepared you have to be for those

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Speaker 2: Now, Johnny is definitely relevant, So you always have to

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Speaker 2: We understand that we've all kind of been there, so

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Speaker 5: Not that you want them to leave.

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Speaker 1: It's nice that they are desired by other teams, But

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Speaker 4: Nick asked Meka this question. It k popped them in

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Speaker 2: Yeah. If they're just not a team first player and

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Speaker 2: Yeah, if you watch this practice, we practice fast, and

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Speaker 2: We typically don't tackle and bring guys to the ground.

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Speaker 2: speed and physicality and getting a body on a body.

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Speaker 2: And then there's certain things that you know, you can

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Speaker 2: drill it, you can technique it. The coach can take

439
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Speaker 2: a bag. There's certain things you can do where you

440
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Speaker 2: can work the other components that you're gonna have to

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Speaker 2: do on Sunday. So try to do it and as

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Speaker 2: safe an environment as possible. Look, have we had players

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Speaker 2: get injured and practice things pop up? Yeah, but what

444
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Speaker 2: try to have everybody on their feet, but just practicing fast,

445
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Speaker 2: practicing physical and practicing with an intent.

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Speaker 5: Okay, so there's a contest here, hype that's.

447
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Speaker 2: About like where we're going to go something like that.

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Speaker 3: I don't even know where this is going.

449
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Speaker 2: Contest.

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Speaker 5: What if they this is totally hypothetical.

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Speaker 1: They said, Nick, you get an extra the winner gets

452
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Speaker 1: an extra third round pick. Cop pick the gms have

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Speaker 1: to compete in a combined drill.

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Speaker 5: What drill are you picking? Boy? All right?

455
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Speaker 2: There is it an existing drill or is it a drill.

456
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Speaker 1: That it's an existing drill? So you got to pick

457
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Speaker 1: one of the drills. We're running out here and you

458
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Speaker 1: have to win it. So what drill would you pick

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Speaker 1: for everybody to do where you feel like you're going

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Speaker 1: to come out on.

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Speaker 2: I would like probably give myself a shot on the

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Speaker 2: gauntlet drill. I think I have like, oh yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: you said hand eye coordination.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, on the moves, A bunch of gms are catching

465
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Speaker 4: the ball, so well, I know that.

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Speaker 5: But there's something I.

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Speaker 2: Might have to wear gloves, But I think I could

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Speaker 2: go out there.

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Speaker 5: And did you wear gloves in college?

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Speaker 2: I did not. I wasn't a glove you know. Am

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Speaker 2: I throwing hand or glove? On the off hand? I

472
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Speaker 2: was a pouch guy that had the hand warmers. So yeah,

473
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Speaker 2: my hands really never got caught. I didn't have the

474
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Speaker 2: biggest hands, so I just want to make sure I

475
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Speaker 2: had like a nice firm grip.

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Speaker 1: Was the glove technology is good now because some of

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Speaker 1: these gloves you throw the gloves up in the air

478
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Speaker 1: they catch the ball.

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Speaker 2: Had gloves designed specifically like for the elements, so you

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Speaker 2: actually have a little bit of traction on the glove.

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Speaker 5: Very nice gauntlet.

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Speaker 2: Stick them.

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Speaker 3: That's my favorite drove. Call it.

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Speaker 1: I had one more because we've talked about your eating

485
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Speaker 1: habits before, very healthy, uh and being on the road

486
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Speaker 1: with the team. Hey, the team travels with the team food,

487
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Speaker 1: so you have that.

488
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Speaker 2: We have best nutritionist in the league.

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Speaker 1: Exactly, and I know you guys infiltrate the hotels. We

490
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Speaker 1: can talk about another time and help prepare the food.

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Speaker 5: So it's the Texans way.

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Speaker 1: But what about when Nick Cassario's traveling to Indianapolis where

493
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Speaker 1: it's shrimp cocktails and steaks and whatever.

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Speaker 2: So how do you Okay, I have but I try

495
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Speaker 2: to stay discipline with my meals, so I try not

496
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Speaker 2: to branch out too far. So I find a place

497
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Speaker 2: that has things that I'm going to eat and we'll

498
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Speaker 2: make it worth that. I had dinner last night. I

499
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Speaker 2: think I went to Panera last night before I did

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Speaker 2: her interviews. All right, I had a sup in a salad.

501
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Speaker 2: So that's not like a high priority first going to.

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Speaker 3: Prime for seven season without the dress right now, I'm.

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Speaker 5: Not doing that. Thanks a lot for joining us.

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Speaker 2: Good luck, Thanks fellas.

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Speaker 1: All right, there's executive vice president and general manager Nick

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Speaker 1: Cassario coming up. Andrew Siciliano. You know him from NFL Network.

507
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Speaker 1: He was the original Red Zone host. He's also the

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Speaker 1: voice of the Cleveland Browns. We have a lot to

509
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Speaker 1: go over. It's next on Texans Radio. Back to it

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Speaker 1: here on a radio row at the NFL Scouting com

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Speaker 1: by Mark VanderMeer and John Harris with you workouts beginning

512
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Speaker 1: soon enough at Lucas Oil Stadium, which is attached to

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Speaker 1: this building. This building is attached to just about everything

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Speaker 1: in Indianapolis, and we are attached to an interview right

515
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Speaker 1: now with Andrew Siciliano of NFL Network formerly and he's

516
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Speaker 1: with the Cleveland Browns. Now is the voice of the Browns.

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Speaker 1: Does a lot of different TV work. He was the

518
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Speaker 1: original host of Red Zone. So let's check in with

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Speaker 1: Andrew Ciciliano. Mark, it's good to see you, John, good

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Speaker 1: to see how are we boys.

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Speaker 4: We're doing okay, still feeling it from the loss of

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Speaker 4: the Patriots.

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Speaker 3: It's been a long few weeks, but we're getting over

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Speaker 3: it again.

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Speaker 6: Everybody, all our good friends.

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Speaker 5: You can't complain to him. He's the voice of a

527
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Speaker 5: Brown Wait.

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Speaker 6: A minute, but I do get it. Yeah, see he

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Speaker 6: gets it. I I was watching that game. I don't

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Speaker 6: know if I was say I was rooting for you guys,

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Speaker 6: but I like CJ, I like a lot of people

532
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Speaker 6: in your building. I would have liked to have seen

533
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Speaker 6: you guys win it. And also, just from a Brown

534
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Speaker 6: selfish perspective watching that game, you guys, both Texans Browns

535
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Speaker 6: have very good defenses, and I'm like, there is a

536
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Speaker 6: world in which you just scored twenty points and you

537
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Speaker 6: could get him to the postseason.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, and the Browns had some really good wins

539
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Speaker 1: this year, like the Packers and beating the Steelers the

540
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Speaker 1: way you did and everything with the defense really shining.

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Speaker 6: Defense can win. You guys are one of those teams

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Speaker 6: that showed again this year that defense can win. So

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Speaker 6: as a Browns fan, I actually watched the Texans in

544
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Speaker 6: the postseason saying this is encouraging for the Browns, but

545
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Speaker 6: obviously there are a lot of steps to get there.

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Speaker 4: Speaking of defense, Andrew, what was it like calling Miles

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Speaker 4: final sack just the year that he had against the Patriots. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: what five and as the Patriots, but getting to that

549
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Speaker 4: hallowed number, getting to the twenty three or whatever it was.

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Speaker 6: What was that like from your perspective?

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Speaker 4: How much did you go about preparing for that moment

552
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Speaker 4: when it happened, being able to know exactly what to say?

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Speaker 3: I know, Mark and I've talked about this a lot.

554
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Speaker 4: You know, in big moments, how do you know you know,

555
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Speaker 4: especially when you know it's coming, How do you know

556
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Speaker 4: what to say?

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Speaker 6: How do you prepare for a moment like that? I

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Speaker 6: would say the big thing there is we didn't know

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Speaker 6: was coming. It was the fourth quarter of the final game. Yeah,

560
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Speaker 6: and it was a bit of a relief to answer

561
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Speaker 6: your question because we had been waiting for it for

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Speaker 6: a couple of weeks now. He'd been right on the doorstep,

563
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Speaker 6: even going back like a month where he was three away,

564
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Speaker 6: where you're like, well, he could easily get three in

565
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Speaker 6: a game. He had five to your point against the Patriots.

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Speaker 5: So I.

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Speaker 3: Don't know how you work.

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Speaker 6: I didn't have anything script or anything like that. Well

569
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Speaker 6: you hear in my voice is relief, like, oh my god,

570
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Speaker 6: thank god he got it because it's the final drive.

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Speaker 6: I mean, Joe Burrow's going down the field to try

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Speaker 6: to win the game, and so they're trying to get

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Speaker 6: off the field and win the game. But at the

574
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Speaker 6: same time, it just oh, there was a relief that

575
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Speaker 6: came out well in those moments though.

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Speaker 1: I'm always just hoping it's clean. Whatever it is, all

577
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Speaker 1: I care about it. Don't make it a half second.

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Speaker 1: You get it or not. He got a piece of it.

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Speaker 6: So Mark, to your point, we had multiple times down

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Speaker 6: the stretch where there was a debate the play in

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Speaker 6: which Josh Allen hurt his foot.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, okay, z right.

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Speaker 6: It was the end of the second quarter of the

584
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Speaker 6: Bills were in Cleveland in December, and he's Josh's running

585
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Speaker 6: backwards and Miles and chasing him, and so there is

586
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Speaker 6: an issue there. Number one, is it a safety? Number two?

587
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Speaker 6: Is it a sack? And is it for Miles because

588
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Speaker 6: he and Mason Graham got there at the same time,

589
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Speaker 6: And so how do you call that if this is

590
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Speaker 6: the sack? And that would have tied the record at

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Speaker 6: that point, It's like, how do you call that? And

592
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Speaker 6: I said what I said, like, Miles and Mason Graham

593
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Speaker 6: get there at the same time, is it a safety?

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Speaker 6: And that was the question at first. Now we're all

595
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Speaker 6: NFLSGSIS right. For those who don't know, it's the internal

596
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Speaker 6: stat machine score keeping track. They didn't score it until

597
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Speaker 6: the beginning of the third quarter. Oh my god. So

598
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Speaker 6: we waited the entire half and didn't know and then

599
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Speaker 6: they announced it at the beginning of the third quarter

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Speaker 6: what the ruling was. There was another play in Chicago's

601
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Speaker 6: same thing. They waited a good fifteen minutes to score

602
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Speaker 6: what it was. So I'm with you. All I wanted

603
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Speaker 6: was a clean play and that's what we got. Right.

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Speaker 1: Those are really difficult sometimes. Okay, So let's talk about

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Speaker 1: quarterback because I think we'll start with yours and our

606
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Speaker 1: former one is still there, and you have Chador and

607
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Speaker 1: you have Dylan, and you have other options available out there.

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Speaker 1: So you tell me, how do you kind of put

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Speaker 1: it together at this time of year, because this is

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Speaker 1: pre free agency, pre draft, all of that. We don't

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Speaker 1: know what's going to happen, pre trade season. So what

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Speaker 1: do you think right now as we sit here at

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Speaker 1: the combine.

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Speaker 6: I don't know, and that is the answer. I do

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Speaker 6: think it's fair to assume that there is going to

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Speaker 6: be at least one more face or arm in that room,

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Speaker 6: I think should Or showed a lot of really good things.

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Speaker 6: He also at times looked like a rookie quarterback, which

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Speaker 6: is totally understandable because he was a rookie quarterback. Funny

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Speaker 6: how that works. I think he has earned the right

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Speaker 6: to be a big part of that conversation. He's going

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Speaker 6: to have to go out and win the job against

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Speaker 6: whomever else is in that room. It's not a great

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Speaker 6: quarterback draft, and they're they're not taking a quarterback at six.

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Speaker 6: I'd be stunned.

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Speaker 3: Oh to take a quarterback at six, or should get riot.

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Speaker 6: There's not going to be a quarterback at six twenty four.

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Speaker 6: I don't know. I don't know. Is that Ty Simpson,

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Speaker 6: here's a territory I don't I've said.

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Speaker 3: This about this draft.

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Speaker 6: I've said this about this draft class at quarterbacks.

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Speaker 4: After Mendoza, a few draft one of those guys and

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Speaker 4: then start him.

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Speaker 6: At some point in twenty twenty six, you'll.

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Speaker 4: Be without a job. This quarterback class is not it's

636
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Speaker 4: not good. It's a bunch of career backups. However, twenty

637
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Speaker 4: twenty seven, of course, different story year.

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Speaker 6: And I also think along those lines, John, in this

639
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Speaker 6: draft you're gonna see a lot of teams trying to

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Speaker 6: get out of the bottom half of the first round. However,

641
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Speaker 6: you always need someone who wants to go up. And

642
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Speaker 6: I don't know that anyone in the second round is

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Speaker 6: going to fall in love with somebody so much that

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Speaker 6: they are willing, to your point about next year's draft,

645
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Speaker 6: to give up next year's capital. Forget about James Pierce

646
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Speaker 6: off the field. He was a good player on the

647
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Speaker 6: field last year for the Falcons. Do you think that

648
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Speaker 6: they're sitting there going, man, I wish, I wish I

649
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Speaker 6: hadn't traded away a future one. No one's trading away

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Speaker 6: a next year future one.

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Speaker 3: Well, they should be kicking themselves because they knew everybody

652
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Speaker 3: everyone too.

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Speaker 6: He was off a whole bunch of boarders. Everybody whole

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Speaker 6: bunch of boards. And I've said this on air two.

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Speaker 6: When that trade was made, my phone I got a

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Speaker 6: couple of text from people going, wait a minute, they

657
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Speaker 6: traded up for him.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, GM and the staff and everybody that made

659
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Speaker 4: that move is not there. So I should tell you something.

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Speaker 4: So I'm gonna ask you a hypothetical because I know

661
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Speaker 4: it something that gets asked about us. If the Browns

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Speaker 4: just get average offensive play. Now I'm not sure I

663
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Speaker 4: know they match up. I think we match up with

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Speaker 4: you guys, AFC southa AFC North.

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Speaker 3: You guys are coming to close.

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Speaker 4: So I'm taking out the consideration of the schedule, because

667
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Speaker 4: schedules are hard no matter what. But if the Browns

668
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Speaker 4: get average offensive play, they're smacked ab in the middle

669
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Speaker 4: fifteenth or sixteenth in total offense. They're solid and not

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Speaker 4: turned the ball over, but they just play average offense.

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Speaker 4: It feels like that's a team that could get into

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Speaker 4: the playoffs and make some noise.

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Speaker 6: So in each of the last two years, if they

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Speaker 6: had done that, like I was saying before, just giving

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Speaker 6: eighteen nineteen points, they would have been at least in

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Speaker 6: the conversation in December. Yeah, and that's been the most

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Speaker 6: frustrating part. But two things. Number One, you know, Mike

678
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Speaker 6: Ruderberg's coming in. He's a new DC, So let's see

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Speaker 6: can they keep it going from what they have had,

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Speaker 6: which you hope, and that is certainly the goal. And

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Speaker 6: on offense, they they need three to five offensive linemen

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Speaker 6: because they're all free agents? Are there? Everybody is a

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Speaker 6: free agent?

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Speaker 3: Wow?

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Speaker 6: Or Joel Botonio may retire. What IM surprised if he does.

686
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Speaker 6: We'll find out likely next week. So they have to

687
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Speaker 6: rebuild the entire offensive line. When Jim Harbaugh said a

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Speaker 6: couple of years ago when they drafted Joe alt or

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Speaker 6: maybe Zion, whichever one of them, asked, you know, don't

690
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Speaker 6: you need weapons, he said, offensive linemen are weapons, yep.

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Speaker 6: And I would not be surprised if they go tackle

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Speaker 6: tackle at six and twenty four.

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Speaker 5: Wow, see that as offensive linemen.

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Speaker 3: Well, Utah guys.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I like that, Utah guys.

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Speaker 4: If Utah guys, or there are some options, There're gonna

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Speaker 4: be some good options. I don't know, not as many

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Speaker 4: as six as there are at twenty four, which is weird.

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Speaker 6: Right, Or they go tackle wide receiver, wide receiver, tackle,

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Speaker 6: whatever it is. They also have a believe third thirty nine. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: I think they're thirty nine. I think they're right behind us.

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Speaker 6: So they have five in the top one oh seven year.

703
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Speaker 6: They surprised a lot of people by going defense defense.

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Speaker 6: Both of those guys turned into very good players, one

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Speaker 6: of whom was Rookie of the Year. So you know,

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Speaker 6: if they it was that. The Panthers a bunch of

707
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Speaker 6: years ago went like all eight picks on defense. If

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Speaker 6: they went all aid on offense, I don't think anybody

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Speaker 6: would be upset.

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Speaker 1: Andrew Sociliano with us voice of the Cleveland Browns, Todd

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Speaker 1: Monkin the head coach, and by the way, Dom Capers,

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Speaker 1: the first head coach in the history of the Houston Texans,

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Speaker 1: is a senior assistant on the staff. Announced this week

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Speaker 1: or reported this week, whatever it is. But tell me

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Speaker 1: about the coaching staff led by Todd.

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Speaker 6: All right, So they're putting it together, and really the

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Speaker 6: offensive side is the one that they're trying to mold.

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Speaker 6: But Dom Capers comes in as an extra set of

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Speaker 6: eyes for a first time coordinated right. I think it's

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Speaker 6: a great move. It's it's as you guys know, if

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Speaker 6: you've never had the headset on calling the thing, that's

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Speaker 6: an entirely different animal. And I assume I haven't met

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Speaker 6: Rudeberg yet, but I assume that at having a veteran

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Speaker 6: not only former head coach, but a veteran coordinator in

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Speaker 6: the room will be a huge.

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Speaker 5: Help absolutely being the head coach.

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Speaker 4: Now if I mean, and it's kind of trending younger,

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Speaker 4: the first thing I would do is I would go

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Speaker 4: find I would do a Bruce Arians to When Bruce

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Speaker 4: Arians to go over to the Cardinals, he went out

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Speaker 4: and got three seven year olds, seventy plus year olds. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: that he made senior assistants. Tom Moore's one of them.

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Speaker 4: Larry's airline was one of them. And the pass there's

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Speaker 4: a pass rush expert. I can't remember his name of

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Speaker 4: top my head, but they had a young offensive line

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Speaker 4: coach that put Larry's airline with him. They had Tom

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Speaker 4: Moore worked at the offense. It was a younger offense.

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Speaker 4: I would do that in a heartbeat, because those guys

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Speaker 4: don't care. They just want coach ball. Well, if they

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Speaker 4: just want to be around.

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Speaker 6: There's actually an analogy or parallel there is that a

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Speaker 6: lot of people I know that I've talked to have

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Speaker 6: compared Monkin getting this job to Bruce Arians later in

744
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Speaker 6: life in really good offensive mind, guy who deserved to

745
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Speaker 6: be an NFL head coach finally gets that opportunity. Because

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Speaker 6: a lot of people, the screaming heads on TV go

747
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 6: wait a bit, you're you're hiring a sixty year old guy.

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Speaker 6: You could have had the young coordinator. You know, Let's

749
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Speaker 6: go from the McVeigh, Shanahan Tree and get one of

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Speaker 6: those guys and people go, wait, give him a chance.

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Speaker 6: He's bright, the old people accountable. He's a darn good

752
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Speaker 6: offensive coach. He has deserved this opportunity. You're going to

753
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Speaker 6: be pleasantly surprised.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, Yeah, Andrew, what about the rest of the division,

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Speaker 1: Because the Ravens have a head coaching change, the Steelers

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Speaker 1: have a head coaching change somehow the Bengals don't.

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Speaker 5: But what do you think.

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Speaker 6: Somehow it's like the thirty and I like Zach by

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Speaker 6: the way a lot, but it's like that thirty for

760
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Speaker 6: thirty intro where that guy goes, what if I told you, right, yeah,

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Speaker 6: what if I told you that Zach Taylor is the

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Speaker 6: last coach standing in the AFC dean of the AFCL. Yes,

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Speaker 6: the rest of the division. Steelers have to figure out

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Speaker 6: their quarterback. Obviously, Jesse Minter comes in with institutional knowledge

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Speaker 6: in Baltimore, but they have to figure out the contract

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Speaker 6: for their quarterback because if they don't lower that seventy

767
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Speaker 6: million number, you're not keeping Tyler Linderbaum or anyone else

768
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Speaker 6: in that building. So they've got to figure that out.

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Speaker 6: And the Bengals have to learn to play professional defense.

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Speaker 6: That's not possible. They can't Andrew, they can't do it.

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Speaker 4: They're the worst tackling team I've seen in the history

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Speaker 4: of mankind.

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Speaker 6: Like statistically they were last year.

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Speaker 3: It's so bad.

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Speaker 4: It's I don't understand how Joe Burrow, Jamar Chase and

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Speaker 4: t Higgins can go out there and do their thing

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Speaker 4: and then sit on a bench and go, We're gonna

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Speaker 4: stop them, right, No, there's I just they need so

779
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Speaker 4: much defensively. I feel bad for that defensive staff because

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Speaker 4: that was Al Golden. I think that came in for

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Speaker 4: ever name it took over that job, and I'm like,

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Speaker 4: I I just don't see it.

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Speaker 3: I don't see how they're gonna do it. How was uh?

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Speaker 3: How is this year? Full year? In the booth? Nathan?

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Speaker 3: Nathan next year? Right?

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Speaker 6: He called the games over there. Nathan's awesome. They the

787
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Speaker 6: Browns were great. I cannot be more grateful to them

788
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Speaker 6: and for them, and they've they've been amazing.

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Speaker 2: Nathan.

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Speaker 6: Uh Eathan is there doing you know, their daily radio show,

791
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Speaker 6: our daily radio show in the building on their Espana station.

792
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Speaker 6: Every day He's doing all the heavy lifting and he

793
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Speaker 6: is a huge, huge resource.

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Speaker 5: For me Andrew as a guy who's the voice lad team.

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Speaker 1: You've been a national host NFL network, you hosted the

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Speaker 1: first Red Zone. I mean, the list goes on and on.

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Speaker 1: What's one or two things you might change about the NFL.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna make you commissional like a rule, or this

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Speaker 1: should be different, or this has always been on my

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Speaker 1: mind and now I've got the chance to change it.

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Speaker 6: What could that be? Mark, what a canvas you give

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Speaker 6: me other than defining what a catch is that that

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Speaker 6: would be near the top of my list.

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Speaker 5: I think Bill O'Brien had a great definition for this.

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Speaker 1: If it's a catch in the backyard, yeah, you know

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Speaker 1: it's probably a catch.

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Speaker 6: Well, Mike Pereira has got the old you know, I

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Speaker 6: remember Mike twenty five years ago said something like if

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Speaker 6: one hundred guys, if one hundred guys in a bar

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Speaker 6: all think it's a hatch, it's a catch. You know,

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Speaker 6: you can't you can't do a live cam to the

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Speaker 6: local uh local watering hole. And I think that to

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Speaker 6: raise their hand, show a hand, is it a catch?

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Speaker 6: What would I do? That's I would? I would cut

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Speaker 6: the preseason two?

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Speaker 5: Okay, would you go to eighteen.

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Speaker 6: Though, if we go to eighteen, I would definitely cut

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Speaker 6: it to two. I would add a second by yes,

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Speaker 6: I would.

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Speaker 5: Would you play on Labor Day?

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Speaker 6: Hell? Yes, I don't mind playing on labor I don't.

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Speaker 5: John McClain always says.

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Speaker 6: There's no way they'll play on Labor Day.

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Speaker 4: Let me let me give you let me give you

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Speaker 4: both an option. Okay, okay, this one, chef, do you

826
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Speaker 4: just put this out? Aboun hour ago, the UFL has

827
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Speaker 4: announced that sixty plus yard fuel goals are now worth

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Speaker 4: four points.

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Speaker 1: Oh gosh, no, I would not do that. There's too many,

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Speaker 1: are too Jacksonville's in our device.

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Speaker 3: Would go crazy.

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Speaker 5: No.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't want like a dramatic reimagining of the game.

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Speaker 6: But I also want fans to realize that we are

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Speaker 6: in three years going to have a league in which

836
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 6: every team plays overseas once a year. There is going

837
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Speaker 6: to be a nine to thirty Eastern time window every week.

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Speaker 6: Get used to it. It is coming. And I just

839
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Speaker 6: think we need to get to a place where the players,

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00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 6: all right, the players get as much of a break

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Speaker 6: for the health of their bodies and their long term

842
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Speaker 6: health and their careers as possible. And if that means

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Speaker 6: starting the season on Labor Day to stretch this thing

844
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Speaker 6: out to make sure everyone can get through the season

845
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Speaker 6: as healthy as possible, then so be it. The super

846
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 6: Bowl was two weeks ago, guys, yep, and we're here.

847
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 6: It ever ends. Free agency is two weeks from Free

848
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 6: agency is two weeks from today. The franchise tag window

849
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:57,880
Speaker 6: closes one week from today. Free agency is two weeks

850
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Speaker 6: from today, and then the league meetings is there are

851
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:07,839
Speaker 6: four weeks from today, so there there is no There

852
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 6: is no downtime, yep, in any way, shape or form.

853
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:13,800
Speaker 6: So let's keep the players the players of the product.

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00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 6: Let's keep them as healthy as we can.

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Speaker 1: Well, my hot take is, I think training camp, it's

856
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:21,480
Speaker 1: not so much the length of it, but these guys

857
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:23,799
Speaker 1: are just button heads every day for six weeks, and

858
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:25,719
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, do they need to do this?

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00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 5: They all get hurt anyway now.

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Speaker 6: Especially in Houston where it's ten thousand.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna up both of you guys.

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00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 4: I'm gonna hammer you gotta tackle you do and you

863
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:37,760
Speaker 4: have to be physical at some point because it's your job,

864
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:40,440
Speaker 4: it is your six weeks of it sport. Do you

865
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Speaker 4: not get a chance to practice your job.

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00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:47,440
Speaker 6: Well, where we're going is we're going to more joint

867
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Speaker 6: practices because coaches, you guys know this. Coaches firmly believe

868
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Speaker 6: that they could get the tackling, they could get the thuught,

869
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:55,280
Speaker 6: they can get the work in ones on ones, twos

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Speaker 6: onto twos, real work against another team and limit the

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Speaker 6: risk of injury by not having to go out there

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00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 6: and play a preseason game. The owners every time, right,

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Speaker 6: the owners, The networks want the inventory in the preseason.

874
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:10,760
Speaker 6: I can tell you I was there at NFL Network

875
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:14,240
Speaker 6: for thirteen years. What do you think the most watched

876
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 6: month of the year was.

877
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 5: Oh, August?

878
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:18,719
Speaker 6: Yeah, August because you have all those games, not December

879
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:21,759
Speaker 6: when the playoffs are coming, not January during the playoffs.

880
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:25,440
Speaker 6: August because what a NFL network did is they had

881
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:28,879
Speaker 6: a number of live preseason games obviously, but then they

882
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:33,400
Speaker 6: replayed every preseason game fans got. These games are worthless.

883
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:36,280
Speaker 6: Guess what all you did was watch them in August.

884
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 6: So you need that content. And what you will get

885
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 6: to is joint practices televised. A lot of them are

886
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 6: already a lot of coaches they'll push back against it

887
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:49,920
Speaker 6: because they say, hey, we want ones on one. Here,

888
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 6: we're actually gonna you know, run stuff. We're actually gonna

889
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:55,120
Speaker 6: use stuff that we're gonna use during the season. Coaches

890
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 6: don't want it. I've been in these situations where we're

891
00:38:57,560 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 6: gonna be hey, we're getting on the plane to go

892
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 6: fly to wherever to put a joint practice on TV,

893
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:06,319
Speaker 6: and then you get the call. Well, now this coach says,

894
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 6: we could only shoot Patton goes right, of course, yeah, right,

895
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:11,880
Speaker 6: were we can only shoot stretch. I'm like, why are

896
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:12,239
Speaker 6: we going?

897
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:12,840
Speaker 5: Yeah?

898
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:13,439
Speaker 6: Right?

899
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:16,440
Speaker 4: But right, well, we all have invariably you have a

900
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:19,920
Speaker 4: twenty fifteen the artist formally noticed the Redskins and the

901
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 4: Texans gotten a huge brawl and that was all the way.

902
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 6: Well that's always day two, yeah, right, and if you get.

903
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:27,720
Speaker 3: To day three, it's a full on all few.

904
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:30,399
Speaker 6: Brawls, right, and so a lot of these are let's

905
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:32,480
Speaker 6: do one day, let's get the first to get out

906
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:32,759
Speaker 6: of there.

907
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 5: Yeah.

908
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:35,240
Speaker 4: And that's what we've been, that's what we've done lately.

909
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:37,720
Speaker 4: We've gone We've gone one day. We went to Detroit.

910
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 4: We went one day with the Lions. I mean, they

911
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:41,839
Speaker 4: got a lot of stuff done, took day off before

912
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:43,240
Speaker 4: the game, played the game on Saturday.

913
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:44,759
Speaker 5: It was and it was a developmental game.

914
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:45,280
Speaker 3: It was perfect.

915
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 6: That that works.

916
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:46,359
Speaker 2: Fine.

917
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 6: We went to Carolina this year. We the Browns went

918
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 6: down there, had one day of practice and played the

919
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 6: game two days later, had the day off, and I

920
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:56,360
Speaker 6: was there in the tunnel when the captains for each team,

921
00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 6: you know, before they went out there, got together, laughed

922
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:01,400
Speaker 6: and joked and set the ground rules. And when I

923
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 6: had a nice practice and it was fine.

924
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, one day was good. Good way day to do it. Andrew,

925
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 1: thanks so much for joining us, great stuff, great to

926
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 1: see it. Welcome.

927
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:13,080
Speaker 6: Can't wait to host you in Cleveland. Oh that's this

928
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 6: year in September.

929
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:14,920
Speaker 2: Please.

930
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 1: And there's our conversation with Andrew Siciliano. Always great to

931
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:22,759
Speaker 1: catch up with him once upon a time. Filled in

932
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:25,320
Speaker 1: on the Jim Rome Show a bunch as well. You

933
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:28,440
Speaker 1: might recognize the voice from there. Let's get to some

934
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:34,000
Speaker 1: closing thoughts, including Johnny's predicted Combine stars or maybe star

935
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 1: he'll give me one or two, among other things. Next

936
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 1: here on Texans Radio. Closing thoughts here from day one

937
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:45,080
Speaker 1: at the Combine, which Johnny hasn't really started. I mean

938
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:47,960
Speaker 1: it has with some interviews and physicals and things like that.

939
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:51,839
Speaker 1: The workouts will get going here as we're in Indianapolis

940
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:55,240
Speaker 1: at the Convention Center, attached to Lucas Oil Stadium, attached

941
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:57,840
Speaker 1: to every hotel just about in Indianapolis.

942
00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 5: So that's cool as well. The li is terrific here.

943
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 5: I'm looking forward to it.

944
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, and the combine starts, as I say in air quotes,

945
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:10,440
Speaker 4: at different times for different groups of people. For us,

946
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:14,400
Speaker 4: for the media people and team people. It started today

947
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 4: because you had a lot of general managers talking, a

948
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 4: lot of head coaches talking, and so there was kind

949
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:21,799
Speaker 4: of a flurry of activity here. The players are doing

950
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:23,440
Speaker 4: certain things today as well.

951
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:24,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, the first.

952
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:26,440
Speaker 3: Group and I can't remember how they've got a group

953
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:27,000
Speaker 3: this year.

954
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:30,760
Speaker 4: I think the DBS go first this year because they've

955
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:32,759
Speaker 4: kind of switched and they go back and forth. But

956
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:37,839
Speaker 4: they were doing the different testing and things that they

957
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:41,920
Speaker 4: have to do. They're doing interviews team interviews, so it's

958
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:45,320
Speaker 4: kind of starting for them. But the groups that go last,

959
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:49,879
Speaker 4: they don't show up until Thursday, yep. So it's kind

960
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:53,239
Speaker 4: of a long process for everybody, but everybody's starting.

961
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:53,800
Speaker 3: Point is a little different.

962
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:55,840
Speaker 4: But it started for us today and we had a

963
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:57,279
Speaker 4: bang up day It was great to catch up with

964
00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:00,359
Speaker 4: Nick Andrews Cilliano, obviously all the different people we got

965
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 4: a chance to talk to. You always loved talking to Jeff,

966
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:04,880
Speaker 4: Joniack and Paul Allen. We'll have those interviews for you

967
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 4: well later this week, maybe on it to next because.

968
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:10,719
Speaker 6: We have accumulated a lot of information.

969
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:13,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of informations, a lot of good audio.

970
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:16,399
Speaker 1: So Ian Rappaport is gonna come up with us and

971
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:19,120
Speaker 1: Greg Cosell. So we got a lot of fun stuff

972
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 1: coming up. All right, give me a name or two

973
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:24,799
Speaker 1: that you expect to pop here at the combine. Now,

974
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 1: over the years, we've had names that have popped for

975
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 1: different reasons. The much anticipated interview with Mantiteo that had

976
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 1: nothing to do with his football playing ability at the time.

977
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:36,960
Speaker 1: The Johnny Manziel interview, well that had something to do

978
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:40,200
Speaker 1: with this football playing ability, but really people just wanted

979
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:42,440
Speaker 1: to hear from Johnny when he was here. There have

980
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:44,880
Speaker 1: been a number of others over the years. But you

981
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 1: tell me some physical freaks that we're going to see

982
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 1: this week in the Bowl at Lucas Oil Stadium.

983
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:53,440
Speaker 4: Well, one that I'm excited about, and I'm curious how

984
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:55,200
Speaker 4: he tests, But I think he's going to test very

985
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 4: very well. And he was in your Vandermark and that's

986
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 4: stealing tenement from out of Uvia Perdue. I thought at

987
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 4: Purdue he showed even more of his athleticism that you

988
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:08,839
Speaker 4: could see it on a field. He had to make

989
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:10,400
Speaker 4: up for a lot of mistakes in front of him,

990
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:12,080
Speaker 4: and I think that was part of it. But I

991
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:15,600
Speaker 4: really think he's gonna test through the roof. I think

992
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:18,239
Speaker 4: he's gonna test very very well. I know another guy

993
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:19,920
Speaker 4: that a lot of people are excited about. If you

994
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:23,279
Speaker 4: live in sec you know the name Brandon Thompson five nine,

995
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 4: one hundred and seventy five pounds, but in high school

996
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 4: I believe it was he was a state champion, ran

997
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:31,480
Speaker 4: like ten one seven in one hundred, which is flying.

998
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 4: So he, to me is a slot guy. And look,

999
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 4: I know receivers aren't really at the top of the

1000
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:40,799
Speaker 4: priority list for the Texans, but you never know. You

1001
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 4: never know what you're gonna be able to find. On

1002
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 4: day three, Jeremiah Love and r Vel Reese are gonna

1003
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:48,920
Speaker 4: both work out, which I think is pretty interesting because

1004
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 4: I think both of them are gonna do They're gonna

1005
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 4: they're gonna show their athleticism in different ways.

1006
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:54,720
Speaker 3: Arvel Reese is a freak of nature.

1007
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 4: I think Jeremiah Love is gonna run forty and I

1008
00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:58,840
Speaker 4: think that's gonna be interesting for him. If he's in

1009
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:00,799
Speaker 4: the four to four range, low four to four range,

1010
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:02,239
Speaker 4: where a lot of people project him, and that's the

1011
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:03,840
Speaker 4: way he played. He might even be faster than that.

1012
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:07,560
Speaker 4: But he'll just do nothing but solidify the fact that

1013
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 4: he is going to be a top probably top eight pick,

1014
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:13,319
Speaker 4: top ten at worst. The Chiefs are to the right

1015
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:15,759
Speaker 4: of us, and everybody has them taking Jeremiah Love at

1016
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:18,440
Speaker 4: this point, at this point, but very early, but at

1017
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:21,799
Speaker 4: this point, and so Arvel Reese is six four two

1018
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:25,279
Speaker 4: forty five off the ball, linebacker converted edge, kind of

1019
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:26,359
Speaker 4: doing the Micael Parsons thing.

1020
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:28,959
Speaker 3: Maybe you know before he even got to the league.

1021
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:32,120
Speaker 4: But he's a tremendous athlete at Great Year Ohio State.

1022
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:34,480
Speaker 4: I think he's one of the top four players in

1023
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:37,279
Speaker 4: this draft. So those guys will definitely put it on.

1024
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 4: But I'm excited to see Brandon Thompson. That dude can scoot.

1025
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:42,360
Speaker 4: He can really run from out Mississippi State the wide receiver,

1026
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:44,800
Speaker 4: So that's gonna be fun. We always like, we always

1027
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:47,719
Speaker 4: love speed, and so seeing guys that can fly after that,

1028
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 4: I don't know who's gonna work out. I know that

1029
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:53,480
Speaker 4: Ty Simpson is gonna throw and that is gonna be scrutinized,

1030
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 4: and for good reason. I think Ty has to go

1031
00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:59,000
Speaker 4: through that process. He's a coach's kid, so he kind

1032
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:01,240
Speaker 4: of knows it goes to the tear. But I'm curious

1033
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 4: to see how he does throw the ball with the

1034
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:06,279
Speaker 4: reaction is to it. But Fernando's not And I think

1035
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 4: his media session, though, is gonna be worth the wait.

1036
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:11,920
Speaker 4: It's gonna be It's gonna be fun. I think he

1037
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:15,520
Speaker 4: handles he handles the media extremely well. He handles himself

1038
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:19,120
Speaker 4: in those situations very well. It's almost Russell Wilson like,

1039
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:21,760
Speaker 4: but I think it's probably a little bit more genuine

1040
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 4: so and especially being in the state of Indiana, I

1041
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 4: think there's gonna I mean, when he walks.

1042
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:30,240
Speaker 3: Up there, because it's gonna be great. The quarterback class

1043
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:31,000
Speaker 3: is not great.

1044
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:33,840
Speaker 4: I think everybody will be standing around Fernanda and is

1045
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 4: a waiting to hear everything he has.

1046
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 5: To this point.

1047
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:38,680
Speaker 1: Okay, less than a minute, I asked Nick the question.

1048
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:42,279
Speaker 1: If he had to run a combine drill well and

1049
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 1: win it against similar competition, what would he pick?

1050
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:48,600
Speaker 5: And he picked the gauntlet? What about you? What would

1051
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:49,560
Speaker 5: you pick? Right now?

1052
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:52,439
Speaker 4: Absolutely, no doubt gauntlet. I have great hands, that's okay.

1053
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:55,120
Speaker 4: It wouldn't be fast, but I would catch every ball.

1054
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:57,479
Speaker 5: Yeah, if I could walk the gauntlet, maybe I could

1055
00:45:57,480 --> 00:45:57,640
Speaker 5: do so.

1056
00:45:57,760 --> 00:45:59,080
Speaker 3: I mean, go as fast as I could.

1057
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:01,880
Speaker 4: But if you put me amongst all these media members,

1058
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 4: I guarantee you they're not catching the ball like I'm

1059
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:03,960
Speaker 4: going to.

1060
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:07,239
Speaker 3: So I'm gonna be very very confident in catching this.

1061
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 5: I like this, Yeah, I like this.

1062
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:11,719
Speaker 1: I'm trying to find a media member who played wide

1063
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 1: receiver in the NFL.

1064
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:13,879
Speaker 3: You'll find one.

1065
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:16,239
Speaker 6: That's fine. Yeah, but I got big pause, I got

1066
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:17,279
Speaker 6: ten inch hands, So so.

1067
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:18,759
Speaker 1: You can do it. I could do it. You can

1068
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 1: do it. Rock the gauntlet, Okay, coming up tomorrow. We'll

1069
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:25,640
Speaker 1: reset the deck tomorrow. But like I said, among the

1070
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:28,920
Speaker 1: guests this week, Greg co Seal, Paul Allen, voice of

1071
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:33,719
Speaker 1: the Vikings, he is awesome, and others including Ian Rappaport,

1072
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:35,279
Speaker 1: and we'll catch.

1073
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 5: Up with more along the way.

1074
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:40,840
Speaker 1: Sal Ca Paccio, your friend from Buffalo does their sideline

1075
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:43,640
Speaker 1: reporting and also hosts a talk show there, and there

1076
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:46,640
Speaker 1: are many others, so stick around all week long. Oh

1077
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:49,120
Speaker 1: we've got Bucky Brooks coming up as well this week.

1078
00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:51,440
Speaker 1: All week long here this show will be in podcast

1079
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:55,040
Speaker 1: for him soon enough on the Odyssey app Spotify. Houston

1080
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:57,919
Speaker 1: Texans dot com Area forty five is coming up. Thanks

1081
00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:01,440
Speaker 1: a lot for listening, Go Texans se