1 00:00:01,440 --> 00:00:05,200 Speaker 1: Welcome to Wired to hunts Rut Fresh Radio, bringing you 2 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:08,559 Speaker 1: the latest reports from the White Tailed Woods and now 3 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:16,799 Speaker 1: your host, Spencer new Hearth. This is Wire to Haunts 4 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 1: Rout Fresh Radio, power by First Light. I am your host, 5 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 1: Spencer new Art And this is episode four hundred ninety six, 6 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:37,920 Speaker 1: which is the final episode of the season. Welcome to 7 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:40,479 Speaker 1: Wire to hunts Rout Fresh Radio. I am your host, 8 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 1: Spencer nor This is episode four hundred and nine six, 9 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 1: And this weekend we are joined by Mark Kenyon, who, 10 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 1: for maybe the first time all season, has back to 11 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 1: back buck movement reports from his home state of Michigan. 12 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 1: So Mark, tell us about what you're seeing in Michigan 13 00:00:57,040 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 1: over the last week. Yeah, well, let's se here. I 14 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 1: was out Saturday mentoring a new hunter, and then Sunday 15 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 1: night I went out on my own, and then Monday 16 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 1: night I was scouted and just glassed and in general 17 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 1: pretty darn good movement. Um, we have decently cold temperatures, 18 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:23,120 Speaker 1: not super frigid cold, but kind of around average. I 19 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 1: guess it's been the thirties and that was last week. 20 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:28,760 Speaker 1: This is following last week when we had like fifty 21 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 1: degree temperatures. So a few days after the front moved through. 22 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:36,279 Speaker 1: Was when I was hunting thirty degree ish temperatures, and 23 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 1: the night on the back forty when I was mentoring 24 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 1: a new hunter, we had like ten or eleven deer 25 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 1: come out and feed out in front of us. Um 26 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 1: that last hour daylight, so pretty good daylight, you know, 27 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 1: end of the night type movement that you could expect. Um. 28 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 1: The next day, I was hunting on my own, going 29 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 1: out with a bow on one of my local places, 30 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 1: trying to get a crack at my target buck here 31 00:01:57,720 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 1: in the last couple of days, and while I didn't 32 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 1: see him, there was a ton of deer moving, I 33 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 1: mean lots and lots of doughs came out early. A 34 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 1: bunch of young bucks came out, um, and they were moving, 35 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:12,639 Speaker 1: you know, a couple hours before dark. They're already on 36 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:14,359 Speaker 1: their feet and getting after it out in these cut 37 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:17,640 Speaker 1: corn fields. And then last night when I glassed a 38 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 1: different area, I was looking at another cut corn field 39 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 1: and a little food plot, and again similar tons of deer. 40 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 1: I probably saw I don't know, twenty to thirty deer 41 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 1: maybe that came out feeding, and that included five six 42 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:39,119 Speaker 1: bucks probably, and one of them was a buck that's 43 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 1: been on like the maybe list for me. He's I'm 44 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:43,679 Speaker 1: pretty sure a three year old, but a really nice 45 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 1: looking three year old. And um, I watched him come 46 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 1: out feeding that cut corn, kind of move into that 47 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 1: food plot and just kind of meander around with a 48 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 1: group of four or five other bucks. So the bucks 49 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:57,640 Speaker 1: are kind of back in groups. The deer heard it 50 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:00,240 Speaker 1: up pretty good. Now. It's it's that very standard late 51 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:03,640 Speaker 1: season activity. They're moving on cold evenings, going to the 52 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 1: best food and you know, finding places where they feel safe. 53 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 1: And I was able to get eyes on a couple 54 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 1: of spots like that. Unfortunately didn't see one of my 55 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:14,239 Speaker 1: big boys, but good to see dear, good to get activity. 56 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 1: I give it like a seven. Maybe on seven, you 57 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 1: know about a ten scale, I'd say probably yeah. And 58 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:23,080 Speaker 1: that's the best part about late season is seeing numbers 59 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:26,920 Speaker 1: of deer and seeing predictable deer movement, which sounds like 60 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:30,920 Speaker 1: exactly what you witnessed in Michigan. Now, if this were 61 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 1: a rut hunting episode, Mark, I would ask you to 62 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 1: talk about sort of the pillars of the rut, and 63 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 1: then you would say something about betting and pinch points 64 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 1: and finding does and just spending time in the field. Right, Well, 65 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 1: this is our last episode of the year, but I 66 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 1: think for the most part, things are kind of on 67 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 1: change for these next three or four weeks. If you 68 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 1: have a season that goes into mid January, So mark, 69 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 1: if somebody is going to be out there for this 70 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 1: next month and they're going to be trying to kill 71 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 1: a buzzer beater buck. What are some of the pillars 72 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 1: of late season white tail hunting? All Right? So if 73 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 1: I were to simplify late season hunting down to the absolute, 74 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 1: very most important pillars of this whole thing, it would 75 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 1: be these three things. Number One, find sanctuaries. Find areas 76 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:23,360 Speaker 1: where deer have um found a safe spot, basically where 77 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:25,840 Speaker 1: deer have gone to to avoid hunting pressure. Because that's 78 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 1: the biggest thing at this point of year, is that 79 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 1: deer and bucks especially have been hunted for months on end. 80 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 1: These deer are kg they're sick of being harassed, they're 81 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 1: sick and being hunted, they're sick of being shot at. 82 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 1: And right now deer are gonna be in the places 83 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:42,480 Speaker 1: where they have been left alone, at least relatively. That's 84 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 1: where you're gonna find deer right now. If you can 85 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:47,920 Speaker 1: get to a spot where they feel safe, you can 86 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 1: have really good hunting even if you don't have the 87 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:52,039 Speaker 1: best food in the world. Even you know that, I 88 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 1: think I think we always assume food is the very 89 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 1: most important thing in the late season, and it's it's 90 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 1: gonna be my number two pillars. So I'm gonna mention 91 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 1: it's very important if you have amazing food, but you've 92 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 1: been pounding the heck out of it every day and 93 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:06,160 Speaker 1: those deer do not feel safe there. You're not going 94 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 1: to see him during daylight. You're not going to get 95 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 1: a shot at a buck. So you need to have 96 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:13,719 Speaker 1: that safe space. You've gotta find where these deer feel safe. 97 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 1: So you need to either carefully scout to find that spot, 98 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 1: or hopefully you know where that kind of spot already 99 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 1: is and you can just wait till the right time 100 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 1: to hunt it. Or you can go out there place cameras, 101 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 1: do some long distance scouting. Whatever it is, rEFInd those deer, 102 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 1: relocate the deer, determine where it is they've found a sanctuary. 103 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 1: There's number one, number two food. If you can get 104 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 1: number one and two lined up a safe space and 105 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 1: high quality late season food, you have a dynamite set up. 106 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 1: Deer are living and dying by their stomachs right now. 107 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 1: They need to refuel after the rut. They need to 108 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 1: pack on the calories before winter as we're getting into 109 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:54,040 Speaker 1: the heat or the heart of winter. So getting on 110 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:57,360 Speaker 1: those best high energy food sources is really going to 111 00:05:57,400 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 1: be key. So deer gonna be flocking to things like 112 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 1: like soybeans, uh like certain late season food plots like brassicas. 113 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 1: If there's red oaks in your area that are still 114 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:09,599 Speaker 1: on the ground, red oak acorns or something that stick 115 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:11,839 Speaker 1: around a lot more this time of year, that'll be 116 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 1: something dear keying in on. If they don't have something 117 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:18,040 Speaker 1: like agricultural fields, find what that hot food sources now 118 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:20,839 Speaker 1: and know that that's going to really dictate the movement 119 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 1: patterns of deer. Deer aren't gonna be cruising now. They're 120 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:25,840 Speaker 1: not gonna be going and checking bedding areas. They're not 121 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:28,360 Speaker 1: gonna be running through pinch points. All they're gonna do 122 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:32,360 Speaker 1: is navigate from their safe bedding to their safe food 123 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:34,919 Speaker 1: and move as little as possible between those two places. 124 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 1: Because they're trying to preserve energy. They don't want to 125 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:39,599 Speaker 1: use any more energy than necessary. Right now, because stuff 126 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:42,359 Speaker 1: is gonna get cold, nasty, and tough to survive in 127 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:45,279 Speaker 1: these coming weeks and months. So they're all about efficiency 128 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 1: from now through March. Deer all about efficiency. Give me food, 129 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 1: give me safety, move as little as possible in between. 130 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:56,160 Speaker 1: So find the sanctu where you find the food. And finally, 131 00:06:56,960 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 1: the third pillar is timing your hunt right. And really 132 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 1: that's mostly related to weather. You know, if you've got 133 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 1: that icy, crazy, cold, frigid temperature kind of day that 134 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 1: comes through, I mean talking much colder than average for 135 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 1: your area. For me here in Michigan, that's you know, 136 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 1: give me single digits or below zero digits, and that's 137 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 1: going to get those deer on their feet earlier than usual. 138 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 1: Especially that big mature buck that's maybe been nocturnal all 139 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 1: the last three or four or five weeks. That will 140 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 1: be the thing that will get him on his feet 141 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 1: moving in daylight that evening. So if I've got those 142 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 1: frigid temperatures, I love that. If I've got the big 143 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 1: snow store on the pushes through the wind and the 144 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 1: snow blows through a big blizzard. And now that day after, 145 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 1: when the weather has cleared, it's cold, there's six inches 146 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 1: of new snow on the ground and now it's like 147 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 1: a high pressure bluebird day. I love a day like 148 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 1: that too. So those are the kinds of days when 149 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 1: you'll have that extra special movement in those sanctuary food 150 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 1: type areas. So if you're just trying to kill a 151 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 1: dough or young buck, you don't need to wait for 152 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 1: that weather. You can get out there on most days 153 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 1: in a safe, good food source area and bill kill 154 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 1: a deer. But if you're trying to kill that one 155 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 1: five year old or that whatever it is, those special 156 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 1: weather days will usually be the trick to get a 157 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 1: move in just a little bit earlier. So those are 158 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 1: my three pillars. Give me a sanctuary, give me the 159 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 1: best late season high energy food, and give me a 160 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 1: really nice cold or fresh snowy day, and I'm gonna 161 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 1: be feeling really good about my laces and chances. I 162 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 1: like it. Mark. And if you already have your tags filled, um, 163 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 1: but you have a season that is open this late 164 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:35,559 Speaker 1: or even later, I think there's a lot of value 165 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:37,839 Speaker 1: when just scouting this time of year and putting together 166 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 1: a plan for next year, um, because maybe you won't 167 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:43,319 Speaker 1: have a tag filled come this point next year. And 168 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:47,319 Speaker 1: historical patterns can be really predictable. Um in late December 169 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 1: and early January. It's almost like the least surprising places 170 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:55,440 Speaker 1: you see deer in the late season, and that's gonna 171 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 1: happen year after year after year. And so you can 172 00:08:58,080 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 1: learn a lot if you just go out and drive 173 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:02,559 Speaker 1: around glassom evenings, if you have a job that has 174 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 1: a Christmas break, or your student you have a Christmas break, 175 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 1: I think you can learn a lot that would off 176 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 1: further you're hunting in years to come. Yeah, I percent 177 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 1: agree with that. Who else we're gonna hear from this 178 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 1: week is Seth Trokey in Illinois, Jacob Myers in Alabama, 179 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:20,680 Speaker 1: Brett Joy in New Hampshire, and then Caleb Combs in 180 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 1: Oklahoma and again Mark, this is our final episode of 181 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 1: this season of rut Fresh Radio, and I imagine we'll 182 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 1: have a recap episode, but either way, we will talk 183 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:35,439 Speaker 1: to you again next year. Great work this year, Spencer, 184 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:38,560 Speaker 1: It's been fun. I love following along, so best lucked 185 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 1: everybody out there. Get it done here in the end 186 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:43,960 Speaker 1: of the season, all right, and joining us on the 187 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 1: line first is Seth Rokey in Illinois from Bad Country 188 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 1: Hunters and anglers now seth in Illinois, what would you 189 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:51,959 Speaker 1: say the buck activity has been lately on a scale 190 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 1: of one to ten. So lately here in Illinois it's 191 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 1: been about it too. I would say everything from the 192 00:09:57,320 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 1: ruts slowed down and we're kin just seeing deer moving 193 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 1: right before dark to food sources. Is it historically that 194 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 1: slow this time of year in Illinois? Yeah, historically it is. 195 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 1: It is like that this time of year here. We 196 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 1: had a weird rut, weird weather year with pretty warm 197 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:21,839 Speaker 1: temperatures in a kind of strange rut h just short 198 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 1: where I was at, and we didn't see too much 199 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:29,560 Speaker 1: like heavy chasing stuff like that. Um, But yeah, this 200 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:31,199 Speaker 1: time of year, they're going to be hitting the food 201 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 1: usually right before dark. And what are those food sources 202 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:36,560 Speaker 1: that are relevant for deer hunters in that part of 203 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 1: the country. So definitely right now, especially where I'm at Illinois, 204 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:44,560 Speaker 1: they're hitting the cut corn fields that haven't been disked 205 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:48,680 Speaker 1: over usually right before dark. And then if you have 206 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 1: any acorns or anything like that, Um, you might be 207 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 1: a fuming cut bean field if there's any any loss, 208 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:59,679 Speaker 1: but just agg fields and and normal stuff for this 209 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 1: time year around here. Have you been seeing any secondary 210 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:08,560 Speaker 1: running activity in Illinois this December. I guess early on 211 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 1: December a little bit. Um, the those that weren't bread. 212 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 1: We're still getting the book out and about a little bit. 213 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 1: But right now it's I think the ruts down for 214 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:22,720 Speaker 1: what kind of shift in betting do you notice when 215 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 1: we get into late season in the Midwest. So noticing 216 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 1: my trail cameras and just observing deer um being out 217 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 1: and about, I've noticed that it's totally changed their betting 218 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 1: closer to the food where they don't have to move much. Um, 219 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:45,680 Speaker 1: it's been really windy to this this season, so they've 220 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 1: been bedding betting on like the side of the slopes 221 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 1: where the winds not hitting in the south basic slopes mostly. 222 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:55,960 Speaker 1: But yeah, that's what they're doing. Now. You mentioned they'd 223 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 1: be running some trail cameras. Right now, where do you 224 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:03,200 Speaker 1: want those located? As we get in late December, So 225 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 1: right now I'm putting my cameras on food and intersecting 226 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:09,200 Speaker 1: trails near the food so I can kind of see 227 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:14,439 Speaker 1: what made it through gun season and what's still out there. Um, 228 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:16,559 Speaker 1: kind of watch them for when they're gonna start dropping 229 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 1: antlowers and stuff. So you're out there and take inventorI 230 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:23,200 Speaker 1: on shed going forward. Then in this next week or so, 231 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 1: what do you think that bucket activity is going to 232 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:27,679 Speaker 1: be on a scale of one to ten in Illinois. 233 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say it's still gonna be a two, maybe 234 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:36,079 Speaker 1: a one, but yeah, the rut activities pretty much. I 235 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:39,640 Speaker 1: would say over over Um, you might get lucky and 236 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 1: catch them going to food, but that's your best bet. Alright, Seth, 237 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 1: good luck with what's up your season. Thanks for joining me, 238 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 1: Thank you all right and joining us on the line. 239 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 1: Next is Jacob Myers and Alabama from the Southern Outdoorsman. 240 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 1: Jacob in Alabama, what would you say the bucket activity 241 00:12:57,040 --> 00:12:58,960 Speaker 1: has been lately on a scale of one to ten, 242 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 1: That's been a strong seven so far in the season, 243 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:06,079 Speaker 1: especially where we're at here kind of coming in from 244 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:10,319 Speaker 1: central Alabama. Something very specific about Alabama with the restocking 245 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 1: that happened back here in the nineteen hundreds. Uh we 246 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 1: have uh six different uh pete breeding days throughout the 247 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 1: season based on different regions in the state and where 248 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:22,680 Speaker 1: we're at right now at pete breeding happened based off 249 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 1: the fetal measurements and testing the boutus have done. Between 250 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:31,080 Speaker 1: December fourteenth through the seventeenth is pete breeding days. And 251 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:33,840 Speaker 1: right now we're starting to get back a little more 252 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 1: of a higher kick up with some of these bigger 253 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:37,319 Speaker 1: bucks on their feet. It's a really good time the 254 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:40,600 Speaker 1: year be killing some good deer. Um. But uh, it's exciting. 255 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:41,959 Speaker 1: And killed my buck and I killed a five and 256 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 1: a half year old last week last Friday, and uh 257 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:47,200 Speaker 1: he was fighting off a couple of bucks while he 258 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 1: was on top of the dough. So uh, it's a 259 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 1: great time the year. Teen this season or be out 260 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 1: in the woods right now in Alabama. So for most 261 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 1: of the state, what do you expect to be seeing 262 00:13:55,679 --> 00:14:00,960 Speaker 1: for signmaking right now? Signmaking is kind of slow down. Um, 263 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 1: it will pick up. Scrapes will pick up a little 264 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:06,440 Speaker 1: bit more of the next few days. Uh. Currently right now, 265 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:10,680 Speaker 1: scrapes are still being somewhat abandoned. Um. Of course rubs too. Um. 266 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 1: But it's a great time of the year to be 267 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 1: starting tarting back on those scrapes, especially those scrapes right 268 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:18,440 Speaker 1: now that we've been finding inside into stick security cover. 269 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 1: One thing special about Alabama, we have a very long 270 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 1: gun season, which can be um, you know, kind of 271 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 1: hard on the deer. So the deer really do dive 272 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 1: into these thickets, especially these does, to try to get 273 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 1: away from these bucks. So those scrapes inside that thick 274 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 1: cover can be excellent right now, especially for running trail cameras, 275 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 1: but also something that you'll see popping up a little 276 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 1: bit more and hot and heavy of the next few 277 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 1: days in December in that part of the country. What 278 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 1: food sources are relevant food sources. So if you can 279 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 1: find some red oaks cell the grounds still gonna be 280 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 1: awesome right now. Uh, it's been pretty hit or miss 281 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 1: right now. They cleaned up all the oaks earlier in 282 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 1: the season, it seems like from what I was finding, 283 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 1: but a lot of brows. You know, we don't have 284 00:14:57,160 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 1: very harsh winters down here, of course being as far south, 285 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 1: but again the brows, a lot of green brier and 286 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 1: everything else. Uh, is still gonna be very relative always 287 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 1: to the end of the season. So any of that 288 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 1: really thick security cover or these clear cuts, or he's 289 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 1: gonna have that browse that the does are gonna be 290 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 1: feeding in, and that's where you're gonna find the bucks. 291 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 1: Where do you want to be running your trail cameras 292 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 1: in late December in Alabama on a scrape in a thicket. 293 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 1: Without a doubt, we're getting some awesome uh footage right 294 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 1: now growing some cell cameras uh and some six security 295 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 1: betting on some primary scrapes and it's been pretty awesome 296 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 1: this first year using CeAl cameras are kind of king 297 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 1: in when these deer or especially these bucks really hitting 298 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 1: those scrapes, uh and the doe groups coming to that thicket. 299 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 1: So definitely, you know, put in cell camera, putting camera 300 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 1: inside that thick security cover on the scrape is gonna 301 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 1: be very um, you guess important for you. Or if 302 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 1: you're hunting some privately and we have a lot of 303 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 1: public if you're hunting privately and if you have a 304 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 1: really good gustation food source maybe like a really good 305 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 1: food pot that just isn't getting hit very hard by 306 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 1: hunting pressure, that might be a really good place, especially 307 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 1: with a buck trying to check the who's right now 308 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 1: at this time of the season, when you have bucks 309 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 1: rutting in Alabama and late December, what is the idea 310 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 1: of morning set up look like for you? And then 311 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 1: what does the ideal evening set up look like? Oh, 312 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 1: I like that question. I love mornings. I love mornings 313 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 1: uh in and around cutovers, clear cuts, especially if you 314 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 1: can get one that's just a few years old. Um, 315 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 1: it seems like you can always catch and those in 316 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 1: their feeding. Uh. And those bucks absolutely cruising inside that 317 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 1: thick covered and you can get elevated and get a 318 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 1: good elevation on. You can really see down into that stuff. Uh. 319 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 1: So that's a fantastic mornings by and then the afternoons 320 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 1: getting still around some of those thickets, whether it's you know, 321 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 1: five six year old ponds um that's been replanted or 322 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 1: just a really thick cut over again in the evenings 323 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 1: and setting up where you're gonna have some bucks cruising 324 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 1: those edges um, and also some of those exit trails 325 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 1: that those are coming out of that stuff, going down 326 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 1: into the boggs and feeding. Are you doing any calling 327 00:16:57,200 --> 00:17:00,200 Speaker 1: or decoying this time of year? And then it up 328 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 1: on the decoin a little bit with the calling again 329 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 1: mixed results. You know. I've talked to some individuals, uh, 330 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:09,440 Speaker 1: one named Richard Fought have event ton of success using 331 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 1: grunts this time of the year. Uh. You're tending grunts really, um, 332 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:15,920 Speaker 1: but again very hit or miss based off, you know, 333 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:18,080 Speaker 1: kind of where you're at. So something I personally don't 334 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 1: use a whole bunch by no guys that do have 335 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 1: success this time of year in Alabama calling when you 336 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:25,359 Speaker 1: have the Southern Road happening and say you have a 337 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:27,919 Speaker 1: really warm stretch of weather roll in. How do you 338 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 1: combat that? Is? Are there any specific spots that you 339 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 1: want to be hunting if you have some really warm 340 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 1: days this time of year. I'll say this, these Southern 341 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 1: deer are fairly used to it. Um. You know, it's 342 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:41,400 Speaker 1: not gonna come down like you know, focusing on water. 343 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:43,680 Speaker 1: We have water everywhere. Every draine is gonna have water, 344 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 1: so that's never a factor, um, But really kind of 345 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 1: comes more down to uh positioning. You know. Of course 346 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:52,440 Speaker 1: those does are gonna still be in that thick cover 347 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:54,199 Speaker 1: and really a lot of the stuff that we do, 348 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 1: we try to target the thickest cover we can find 349 00:17:56,880 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 1: because right now those don't want to be harassed by 350 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 1: the bucks they're in that stuff and get away from 351 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:03,640 Speaker 1: and those bucks are always on those edges, popping out 352 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 1: that and really trying to cover ground and cut trails. 353 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:09,880 Speaker 1: So I'll say this, when I shot my book last Friday, Um, 354 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 1: it was sixty five degrees. I was hunting in pretty 355 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 1: much just a T shirt. Following day with seventy two 356 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:17,200 Speaker 1: degrees and I was hunting in just a T shirt. 357 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:19,240 Speaker 1: So you know, it's one of the things you can't 358 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 1: really help that down here. But definitely when we have 359 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:24,679 Speaker 1: a temperature swing like we had today, especially over this 360 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:27,200 Speaker 1: next week, you're gonna see a lot of really good movement, 361 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 1: especially later on in the day going forward, then in 362 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 1: the next week or so, what do you think the 363 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:34,399 Speaker 1: bucket ATVD is going to be on a scale of 364 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:39,640 Speaker 1: one to ten in Alabama? In Alabama, I'm gonna say, 365 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:41,680 Speaker 1: for unless you're in the very southern part of the state, 366 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 1: it's gonna be pretty fantastic. I'd say it probably close 367 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 1: to an eight, if not maybe higher. Uh, definitely, you know, 368 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 1: if you can get out, if you're in Alabama, you 369 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 1: can get out in the hunt this week, you have 370 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 1: a very good chance, especially central part of the state, 371 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 1: to be able to kill one of your bitterer, bigger 372 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 1: and better bucks. Uh. Again, in these bucks are back 373 00:18:57,800 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 1: on their feet looking for you know, whichever dose still 374 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 1: about to come to heat before we get that secondary rut, 375 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 1: which we do have a very strong secondary rut around 376 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 1: here based off the deer population. Uh So again it's 377 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:10,200 Speaker 1: just now getting good in alban we get a long 378 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:12,359 Speaker 1: season ahead of us. Uh So it's time to finally 379 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 1: buckle down and get after them. Our Jacob, congrats on 380 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 1: your success so far and good luck with the rest 381 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:20,399 Speaker 1: of your season. Thanks for joining me. Thank you, Spencer, 382 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 1: alright and joining us on the line. Next is Brett 383 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 1: Joy in New Hampshire from the Just Hunt Club. Now, 384 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 1: Brett in New Hampshire. What would you say the buck 385 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:33,120 Speaker 1: activity is been lately on a scale of one to ten, Hey, Spencer, 386 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 1: I'd say it's been U probably a six or seven. Um, 387 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:39,959 Speaker 1: it's been I'd say above average, which is good. I 388 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 1: think it's probably tapered off a bit from the road obviously, 389 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:48,879 Speaker 1: which are nearly a month removed from now. Um. But um, 390 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:51,239 Speaker 1: it seems like it's kind of hit or mess. But 391 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:54,479 Speaker 1: movement can be really good. Um, if you've found an 392 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 1: area that's relatively low pressure. UM, if you have a 393 00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:01,160 Speaker 1: quality food source, um, if we have, or you have 394 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 1: some good weather which you've seen kind of um flashes 395 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:08,919 Speaker 1: of the last week or so. Um, or if you 396 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 1: get that second red activity, which it seems to be 397 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:14,359 Speaker 1: a pretty real thing in the East that I see 398 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 1: more and more of. I don't know if I see 399 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:17,679 Speaker 1: more and more of it every year, but I become 400 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 1: more and more aware of it, if that makes sense. 401 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 1: What is a quality food source in one of the 402 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 1: New England states this time of year? Man, we're such 403 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:29,840 Speaker 1: a diverse area. Obviously the hamps is the state that 404 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 1: I focus on. Um, we're unfortunately closed. But you know 405 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:39,720 Speaker 1: that could the acorns um at this point in the year. 406 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 1: It could be an old apple orchard, or an apple 407 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:46,360 Speaker 1: or working apple orchard. UM could be you know, browsing 408 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 1: a cut. I actually had a hunt last week, right, 409 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:53,879 Speaker 1: I hit a buck high and mature buck um. But 410 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 1: that was over a food plot. So if you have 411 00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 1: the ability to plant that, um, you know, that's that's 412 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:01,199 Speaker 1: a new hand. Sure it could be you know, I 413 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:05,120 Speaker 1: was in Ohio over the weekends. That could be beans, 414 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:06,919 Speaker 1: corn and food plot there. It could be baked, it 415 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 1: could be you know, whatever. Whatever. So it really is 416 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 1: pretty um diversed in the eastern half of the country. 417 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 1: But I think being able to identify that food source 418 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 1: and then confirmed the gear using it's gonna be super 419 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:21,639 Speaker 1: helpful for you. What kind of areas should hunters in 420 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 1: the east who were in the Big Woods focus on 421 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 1: if they want to see some of that secondary running 422 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 1: activity this time of year. I would focus on, you know, 423 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 1: areas with thozen with with food sources. Like we said before, 424 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:39,119 Speaker 1: so in the big woods, UM, I would focus if 425 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:42,879 Speaker 1: you have mass crop like southern half of probably New 426 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:47,480 Speaker 1: England does, or um whatnot, I've focused on acorns. If 427 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:51,159 Speaker 1: you're up north, I'd focus on cuts and then areas 428 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 1: just haven't been getting a lot of pressure. The other 429 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:55,200 Speaker 1: thing that I like the cana on it's, if possible 430 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:58,439 Speaker 1: as self station slopes because as it gets cold up 431 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:00,440 Speaker 1: here in the snow starts to pilot, the deer really 432 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:02,719 Speaker 1: start to move to those self facing slopes and then 433 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:06,440 Speaker 1: bottoms if possible. UM. So, well, those deer, a lot 434 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 1: of them are going to move out of the high 435 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:11,360 Speaker 1: country um or what we call high country out ease. 436 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 1: It's not a high completed to the west, but it's 437 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:15,880 Speaker 1: you know, the higher elevations for your area. They're gonna 438 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:18,879 Speaker 1: move to lower elevations and so sutherly facing slopes and 439 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:21,680 Speaker 1: a lot of the times so suddenly facing slopes will 440 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 1: be um hard woods and have a fair amount of oak. 441 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 1: If you've got a fresh snow when you're doing some 442 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:30,239 Speaker 1: in seasoned scouting in the big woods, what are some 443 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 1: things that you're looking for. UM. I would say that 444 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 1: if your seasons still open and you have that fresh 445 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 1: snow in the big woods, you ought to try to 446 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 1: be tracking down a buck. But if that's not your thing, 447 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:43,159 Speaker 1: or maybe it's R three season, UM, I wouldn't be 448 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 1: looking for feeding sign UM in those areas that you 449 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:51,199 Speaker 1: know we've identified as food sources. You can hunt right 450 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 1: there on those and you may have some good luck, 451 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 1: um if the deer have them pressured. If they have, 452 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 1: then you may want to try to backtrack UM those 453 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:03,720 Speaker 1: deer to a betting area. It's possible from that food source. 454 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 1: So I'd probably start with just trying to hunt that 455 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 1: food source getting the winter right and start conservatively. But 456 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:12,679 Speaker 1: if I'm not seeing any deer activity there during daylight 457 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 1: and I'm thinking they're getting there later, I might try 458 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 1: to try to backtrap putiously from that food source to 459 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:19,520 Speaker 1: a betting area and then hunt kind of that transition 460 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 1: or maybe even right on the edge of the betting 461 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:23,879 Speaker 1: area to pingpond. What kind of deal that activity you're 462 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 1: seeing in the late season in the Northeast. What does 463 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:32,920 Speaker 1: the morning set up look like for you? Um? Honestly, 464 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:37,400 Speaker 1: unless I'm tracking and probably knocking on a lot of mornings, UM, 465 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:39,919 Speaker 1: I don't know if that's the right approach. It's just 466 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:44,200 Speaker 1: for me. The season has been a long one, um, 467 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:47,400 Speaker 1: and you're trying to beat deer back to bed, which 468 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 1: can be tough. Um. I'm probably gonna focus on those evenings. 469 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:52,200 Speaker 1: But I guess if I had to hunt a morning, 470 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:55,440 Speaker 1: I mean, they may look pretty similar to the evening setups. 471 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:58,879 Speaker 1: I may hunt a food source. Um, it's not a 472 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:01,120 Speaker 1: lot of the food sources aren't super defined. So it's 473 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 1: not like you know, they're going to be seeing in 474 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:04,480 Speaker 1: a one acre area. They may be feeding in a 475 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 1: you know, ten area. So the chances of you going 476 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:10,919 Speaker 1: in and the deer being right where your stand is, 477 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:14,720 Speaker 1: you know, when you're approaching, aren't super high. Um. So 478 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 1: it really depends on your situation. I'd say, but I'd 479 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:19,399 Speaker 1: be hunting on a food source or you know, a 480 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:22,639 Speaker 1: betting area. Going forward, then the six week or so, 481 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:24,639 Speaker 1: where do you think that bucket activity is going to 482 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:27,160 Speaker 1: be on a scale of one to ten in New Hampshire. 483 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 1: I think it will probably be right around the seven. 484 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:34,320 Speaker 1: The temperatures look like they're good. I think the only 485 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:36,359 Speaker 1: thing we didn't touch upon is cold fronts of weather 486 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:40,880 Speaker 1: that's gonna obviously increase activity significantly. Late season is really 487 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 1: driven by snow and cold up here. Once you get 488 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:45,240 Speaker 1: the snow in the cold, the more dramatic the activity is, 489 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:47,480 Speaker 1: the more concentrated it is, and the better hunting it is. 490 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:49,720 Speaker 1: And it looks like we do have some colder weather 491 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 1: moving in. Nothing super dramatic, but it looks like we 492 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:55,320 Speaker 1: have maybe some snow and some some colder temperatures. So 493 00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:57,280 Speaker 1: I would say they're going to continue to move. You're 494 00:24:57,280 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 1: gonna continue to see some of that second right activity, 495 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:01,879 Speaker 1: as you know, but sure those are cycling into this 496 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 1: for the second time and maybe some of those funds 497 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:05,800 Speaker 1: are coming in for the first time. So I think 498 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:08,120 Speaker 1: it's a pretty good outlook for the next coming week. 499 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:10,879 Speaker 1: All right, Brett, congrats on the great season, Thanks for 500 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 1: joining me. Thanks man alright and joining us on the line. 501 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:20,560 Speaker 1: Next is Caleb Combs in Oklahoma from Stewart Ranch Outfitters. 502 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:23,399 Speaker 1: Caleb in Oklahoma, what would you say the buck activity 503 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 1: has been lately on a scale of one to ten, 504 00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:30,240 Speaker 1: I would say it's been about a seventh, but that's 505 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:34,000 Speaker 1: only because I'm always optimistic about late season. It's my 506 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:38,240 Speaker 1: favorite time of year to hunt. Um, so I still 507 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 1: have it high. You can get it done. I've seen 508 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 1: a lot of bucks in the recent trips I've taken 509 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:45,920 Speaker 1: lately during daylight hours. I don't know on camera they're 510 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:49,719 Speaker 1: still moving, but i'd have it higher like usually Lazias. 511 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:51,439 Speaker 1: And I haven't like a nye. Just the weather has 512 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:54,720 Speaker 1: been terrible, um top and it's dry. We meet some 513 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:56,879 Speaker 1: rain in a bad way. So I mean all of 514 00:25:56,880 --> 00:26:00,320 Speaker 1: our food plots got hammers because we haven't had since 515 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:04,199 Speaker 1: October and there's basically nothing left, not a ton of acorns. 516 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:06,880 Speaker 1: I mean they're just all real spread out right now. 517 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:10,320 Speaker 1: And what is it about late December in Oklahoma that 518 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:17,120 Speaker 1: always makes you so optimistic? Uh? I love anything post rut, 519 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 1: so I'm not a big rut fan. I like before rut, 520 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:23,440 Speaker 1: but especially like after just because I'm a big fan 521 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:27,679 Speaker 1: of food um and late season you can find them 522 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:29,680 Speaker 1: on the food's horses trying to recover. And I also 523 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 1: like all the rifle hunters and all the pressure they 524 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:37,639 Speaker 1: put on them because usually it moves everything around. Um. So, 525 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:41,119 Speaker 1: I just I like everything about late season. You mentioned 526 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:43,360 Speaker 1: that you've been out without rain for a minute. Does 527 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:45,639 Speaker 1: that mean you've had a focus on water sources this 528 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 1: fall or does it not matter much in that part 529 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:52,359 Speaker 1: of the country. I don't ever focus on water. I 530 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 1: mean it seems like you should. So. I mean like 531 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:58,160 Speaker 1: there are times through my evolution as a hunter where 532 00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:01,399 Speaker 1: I ran cameras on springs are on the you know, 533 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 1: the holes that are always in the creek while the 534 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:06,639 Speaker 1: whole creatures dry and ponds. I just haven't had much 535 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:08,920 Speaker 1: luck with that. I think we get enough to do enough, 536 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:13,360 Speaker 1: you know, frosts and other things. You know, like I've 537 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:17,160 Speaker 1: never seen it be a a plausible way to kill deer. 538 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 1: Have you seen much of a secondary rout this year 539 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 1: in Oklahoma? Uh? Depends where you're at. The place that 540 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:30,800 Speaker 1: I hunt most frequently has a very high deer population. UM, 541 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:32,680 Speaker 1: and it gets weird down there. I would say it's 542 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 1: more I'm sure y'all had the podcast before, like Louisiana style, 543 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 1: you know, like where you've had a bunch of year 544 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:42,200 Speaker 1: that have come in from different places, and it's a 545 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:46,359 Speaker 1: weird topography. So we have a lot of run activity. Um, 546 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:48,119 Speaker 1: So that's what I'm used to. I'm used to a 547 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 1: really long rut um. But around my home place, it's not. 548 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:56,320 Speaker 1: It's not that way just because all those deer are 549 00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:58,959 Speaker 1: fairly similar and it's all crop land, and that one 550 00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 1: kind of comes and goes more traditional. So Oklahoma is 551 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:07,400 Speaker 1: just very weird. Um. We have a lot of different topography, 552 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:10,639 Speaker 1: a lot of different you know, subclimates or whatever. So 553 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:12,680 Speaker 1: it really depends on where you're at. You could be 554 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,720 Speaker 1: in southeastern Oklahoma and you could be in northwestern Oklahoma. 555 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 1: It is a nine day difference. Where do you want 556 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 1: to be running your trail cameras this time of year? 557 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:24,439 Speaker 1: I am always running them this time of year on 558 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 1: teaches that lead to food sources, and I've still gone 559 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:29,679 Speaker 1: them on scrapes because i mean, like the big family 560 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:33,920 Speaker 1: scrapes they're still hitting um and then anything that I've 561 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 1: got real you can see all the trails now, I 562 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:40,000 Speaker 1: mean this time with all the leaves gone and just 563 00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:41,720 Speaker 1: they've been wearing them down. I mean you can see 564 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:44,360 Speaker 1: everything that they've been running in between all the bedding areas. 565 00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 1: So if you can get on the edges of those. 566 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:49,520 Speaker 1: On food sources, you can pick up a dynamite inventory 567 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:52,120 Speaker 1: on who's left for this year and especially who's left 568 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 1: for next year. So my favorite times to run cameras 569 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:57,760 Speaker 1: to get optimistic about next year and try and find 570 00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:00,400 Speaker 1: where they're gonna be when they shed, because I love 571 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:03,200 Speaker 1: shed helping. It's common this time a year to see 572 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 1: a shift in bedding in the Midwest and in the north, 573 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:08,880 Speaker 1: in the Northeast. But is that something that you also 574 00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 1: see in Oklahoma when you have such mild weather. I 575 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:17,400 Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know if it's the shift embedding 576 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:22,200 Speaker 1: I do see. I think maybe it is, But usually 577 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:26,720 Speaker 1: I more associated with red activity just because, like I said, 578 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:30,160 Speaker 1: the place that I hunt idear population and they're still 579 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:32,560 Speaker 1: trying to clean up the last bit of those that 580 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:36,240 Speaker 1: are coming in. So I've always associated that first week 581 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:38,840 Speaker 1: in December, which is my favorite week to go hunting 582 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:42,120 Speaker 1: with like late secondary rut, because a lot of new 583 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:45,040 Speaker 1: bucks will come in. But it could possibly be from 584 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:49,560 Speaker 1: a shift in bedding as well. Um, I'd have to 585 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:51,960 Speaker 1: look into that further. Like as far as local, I 586 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,200 Speaker 1: definitely see a shift, and I'm always following the shift. 587 00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:57,600 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's late rudder or bedding closer 588 00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:01,600 Speaker 1: to food sources via solid you look into going forward. 589 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:03,160 Speaker 1: Then in the sext week or so, what do you 590 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:05,040 Speaker 1: think that bucket activity is going to be on a 591 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:10,040 Speaker 1: scale of one to ten? In Oklahoma, we had a 592 00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:12,880 Speaker 1: little cold front like the last two days, but it is. 593 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:16,040 Speaker 1: It looks like it's leaving again. It's gonna be seventies 594 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:22,280 Speaker 1: going into Christmas, so I'll be out trying to shoot those. 595 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:24,479 Speaker 1: I mean, that's my main goal. It's a holiday antler 596 00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:28,200 Speaker 1: last season. Uh So, I think you can get out, 597 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:31,000 Speaker 1: put some meat in the freezer, and you can definitely 598 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:34,080 Speaker 1: be still successful on bucks. But it is gonna be hot, 599 00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:36,480 Speaker 1: like all the crops like the alfalfa and stuff that 600 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:39,120 Speaker 1: I hunt after the last cut barely end of it's 601 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:41,080 Speaker 1: come back, and they haven't planned the winter week a 602 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:43,320 Speaker 1: bunch of places. So I mean, it's just it's tough 603 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:46,240 Speaker 1: on fruit towards us right now. Alright, Caleb, good luck 604 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:48,640 Speaker 1: with what's left of your season. Thanks for joining me. Hey, 605 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 1: thank you so much. Good luck to YouTube. And that 606 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:58,240 Speaker 1: concludes a rout Fresh Radio for thanks to Seth, Jacob 607 00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:00,880 Speaker 1: Brett and Caleb for joining me. Thank you guys for 608 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:04,680 Speaker 1: listening all fall long. 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