1 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:10,360 Speaker 1: The Around the League Podcast, Never Trusted the Wildcats. Welcome 2 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 1: to another edition of the Around the League Podcast. My 3 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:16,080 Speaker 1: name is not Dan Hansis, it's Greg Rosenthal. I'm with 4 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:19,799 Speaker 1: Mark Sessler. I'm with Chris Wesseling. I'm with Zach the 5 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 1: gold Standard. It's a room full of heroes. We're changing 6 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 1: up the intro for one day. Why not? Why not 7 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:28,160 Speaker 1: right day before Christmas? And listen. The only reason Dan's 8 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 1: not here is because our poor friend was caught at 9 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 1: the airport roughly what eight or nine hours after his 10 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 1: flight was supposed to take off. Sad, Dan the smart 11 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 1: one is back home with his family for Christmas. We're 12 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:44,239 Speaker 1: here on Christmas Eve. He is trying to watch the 13 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:46,599 Speaker 1: news right now for us on one hour asleep, So 14 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 1: we appreciate that while we're hanging out in seventy degree weather, 15 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:53,199 Speaker 1: your first Christmas in l A. Chris Westling, it is 16 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 1: spending it alone. Good times. I just thought, you know, 17 00:00:57,040 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 1: we don't normally have a podcast on Tuesdays, but just 18 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 1: not Christmas Eve. People are gonna want to download some 19 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:05,759 Speaker 1: things and listen to them on their iPads. What else 20 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 1: would you want to what you need to get away, 21 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 1: especially if you you might need to get away from 22 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 1: family for a couple of minutes. This gives you that 23 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 1: buffer just to say I gotta to handle some business. 24 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:16,559 Speaker 1: Go in the bedroom, listen to minutes of the show. 25 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 1: And here's the reality. It's you know, the end of 26 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:22,319 Speaker 1: the year. People have work off, there's parties, there's more 27 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:24,760 Speaker 1: football to talk about right now than there has been 28 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 1: all year. We have the highest traffic day on around 29 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:31,040 Speaker 1: the league all season on a Sunday, this Sunday, and 30 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 1: that's because everyone's alive. There's so much going on in 31 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 1: the playoff picture. These are the big games that we're 32 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 1: gonna remember, I think, all season, all off season long. 33 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 1: So you know, it's life is slowing down for the 34 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:43,479 Speaker 1: rest of the world. But this is this is our 35 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 1: prime time, uh, and let's get to it. Let's talk 36 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 1: about Monday Night football. Forty Niners, Falcons, much better game 37 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 1: than we thought. The forty nine is closed down Candlestick 38 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 1: Park in style. Mark Sessler, Let's start with you. I 39 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 1: know you enjoyed the game. Were you surprised that the 40 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 1: Falcons stay in it? What were your big takeaways? It 41 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 1: was in the sense that you know, and you never 42 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 1: want to say this about a team, and there's no 43 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 1: proof of it, but to the naked eye, Atlanta looked 44 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 1: to me a month ago like a team that just 45 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:12,240 Speaker 1: had given up. And then you look at what they've done. 46 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 1: They had won a couple of games out of I 47 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 1: think three out of four there, and then they played 48 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 1: the Niners right down to the wire last night, and 49 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 1: I thought that, you know, an undermanned offense. They don't 50 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 1: have Julio Jones. Jones, they haven't been the same team 51 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:25,359 Speaker 1: without him. They really fought to the end. So I 52 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:27,640 Speaker 1: take back I think a couple of times that I 53 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 1: wrote and said on this show that I thought they 54 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:32,800 Speaker 1: had just mailed it in since that game that basically 55 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 1: the Bucks blew them out, and everybody accused them of 56 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:39,079 Speaker 1: quitting on Mike Smith. They've beaten the Bills and the Redskins. 57 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:42,399 Speaker 1: They've given the saintistcare, they've given the forty Niners care, 58 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:44,800 Speaker 1: and they nearly beat the Packers in Green Bay. This 59 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 1: has been a competitive team well, and we normally wouldn't 60 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:50,360 Speaker 1: spend so much time talking about the Falcons, but they 61 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 1: have a big part in this NFC playoff picture coming up, 62 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 1: and they have Carolina coming to Atlanta this Sunday, and 63 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 1: now Steve's myth probably not going to play in that game. 64 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:05,239 Speaker 1: And is that a game now, Carolina? I think all 65 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:08,079 Speaker 1: these weeks, seventeen games where teams are favored but need 66 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 1: to clinch, they're not all gimmes. And I don't think 67 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 1: going to Atlanta is a gimme for Carolina right now. No. 68 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:15,919 Speaker 1: I agree, Carolina is a much stronger team than Atlanta, 69 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 1: but playing on turf in the Dome, Matt Ryan's record 70 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 1: in the Dome is still very impressive. That's not a 71 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:25,519 Speaker 1: gimme by any stress. He was great last night. I 72 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 1: think everyone reminded, Oh yeah, Matt Ryan's pretty awesome. I mean, 73 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 1: he had a great game. You know, they ended up 74 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 1: not going to overtime or winning the game because of 75 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 1: a magical play at the end. That was a good 76 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 1: defensive call. Yeah, who was it? Tremaine brock broke on 77 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 1: the ball and Navarro Bowman takes it and that, I mean, 78 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 1: that's a way to end the stadium. But but Matt 79 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 1: Ryan and the Falcons look good. The shame to me 80 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 1: right there is that I would have loved to see 81 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 1: San Francisco had they lost last night, have to go 82 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 1: head to head with the Cardinals for a game that 83 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 1: would the winner of that really would go into the playoffs, 84 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 1: because you know, it bothers me to see that Arizona 85 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 1: could knock off Seattle the way they did. When you've 86 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 1: got a quarterback throwing four picks, that speaks to the 87 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 1: strength of the rest of your team, and I give 88 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 1: him a good chance against San Francisco they could win that, 89 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 1: go eleven and five and miss the playoffs. It would 90 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:18,279 Speaker 1: have been the game of the Week Arizona San Francisco 91 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 1: play in game, which it would have been if the 92 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 1: Falcons had scored there. But let's, you know, give a 93 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:28,159 Speaker 1: little love to Brock and Bowman. And it must have 94 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 1: been cool to be there the last night of that stadium. 95 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 1: Not the most beautiful stadium in the world, a lot 96 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 1: of great memories there. To end it on a play 97 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:38,719 Speaker 1: like that, and it's almost like the you know, forty 98 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 1: Niners fans, you've had it. I know how you guys 99 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 1: feel now watching all the Patriots success and being annoyed me, 100 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:45,600 Speaker 1: it's like, forty Niners fans have had it pretty good. 101 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:48,919 Speaker 1: To close down the stadium with that game is pretty sweet. 102 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 1: Bad Brocks had a great year and they gave him 103 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:54,279 Speaker 1: a contract extension about a month ago. He's he's earned 104 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:56,360 Speaker 1: every bit of it. We talked about the forty Niners 105 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 1: as a potential super Bowl team. They now have a 106 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:01,360 Speaker 1: chance to be the one seed or the two seed 107 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 1: with with a little bit of help. It would take 108 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 1: some luck, but they have a chance to play some 109 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:08,360 Speaker 1: more games there in the playoffs. Not a great game 110 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 1: last night. I don't think Kaepernick was a little up 111 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 1: and down. Does that worry you at all about our 112 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:16,719 Speaker 1: forty Niners? Love? It does a little bit. Kaepernick is 113 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 1: still too inconsistent. I think this offense tends to tends 114 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 1: to go as Vernon Davis goes. And he had that 115 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 1: problem with his eyes last night. He wasn't himself. I've 116 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 1: played sports with with one contact in with it where 117 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 1: I've had eye problems and it really messes with your 118 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:34,840 Speaker 1: hand eye coordination. You can't get your timing. I think 119 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:37,160 Speaker 1: he got his contacts back in right or whatever was 120 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 1: going on with his eyes. He dropped two passes in 121 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:41,160 Speaker 1: the second half that he would normally catch. They were 122 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 1: right in his hands and he I'm just saying, I've 123 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 1: played games where you're your eyes and your brain are 124 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 1: telling you. Your hands are telling you two different things. 125 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 1: I think that was definitely a part of it. I 126 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 1: like that Chris is using his personal experiment experience, and 127 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:57,279 Speaker 1: like the thirty five and over Beer Softball League compared 128 00:05:57,360 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 1: to Vernon Davis. Like a monster and of player with 129 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:03,239 Speaker 1: guys running out of you would. But when your eyes 130 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:06,160 Speaker 1: have an issue, it messes with your hands. Do you 131 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:11,279 Speaker 1: play any softball, Mark Clay, any sports anymore? Uh? At 132 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:13,920 Speaker 1: the current time, I do not play sports. I'm not 133 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 1: on teams involved in weekly schedules and games. I'm not either. 134 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:19,919 Speaker 1: I never really got into that whole post call. I 135 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:22,920 Speaker 1: did this dodgeball thing once for a year or two. 136 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 1: People just did it to me to meet girls basically, 137 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 1: but then I did well, I met my wife separately 138 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 1: to that, and then I thought, well, what's the point 139 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:33,600 Speaker 1: of this, and so I quit. It seems you met 140 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 1: your wife, that the idea that you'd be part of 141 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 1: sports teams to meet women would melt away to say, 142 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:42,480 Speaker 1: right exactly, And then I was like, we're grown adults 143 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 1: playing dodgeball. I was good, though we won the championship. 144 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:47,719 Speaker 1: I'm pretty dodgy. He is telling you in in a 145 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 1: nutshell West that you need to curtail your adult cathletic teams. 146 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:55,159 Speaker 1: Uh So the forty Niners get to win, I don't 147 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 1: think it changes. It doesn't change my view of them 148 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:59,280 Speaker 1: because they're a team that's not gonna blow out everyone. 149 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:01,599 Speaker 1: Because of that, and it keeps other teams and games. 150 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:03,840 Speaker 1: They've still won five straight. They have a chance to 151 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 1: be the one seed. Let's talk about that playoff picture now, 152 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 1: because the NFC is really interesting going into the final week, 153 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 1: and we'll break down the NFC and the a f 154 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 1: C now, but let's start with the NFC, and all 155 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 1: four divisions are up for grabs, and both playoff buys 156 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 1: are up for grabs. We know the winner of the 157 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 1: NFC West in the NFC South are gonna be the 158 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 1: two playoff teams, but we don't know who the one 159 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 1: seed will be. The Seahawks get the one seed with 160 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 1: the win. The Panthers get a playoff by with the win. 161 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 1: If there was gonna be an upset this weekend between 162 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 1: one of those teams blowing the by, Carolina has to 163 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 1: go to Atlanta. Seattle is hosting St. Louis. Which where 164 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 1: do you think the surprise could come from? Oh, definitely 165 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 1: Carolina losing. I don't see Seattle losing two straight home 166 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 1: games the only thing that we can I agree with that. 167 00:07:58,040 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 1: But the thing that would concern me a little bit 168 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 1: is what we saw with Seattle's offensive line last week 169 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 1: and just the effect it had on Russell Wilson. And 170 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 1: it's not as if St. Louis is any less of 171 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 1: a challenge on that front. They've got obviously the potential 172 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 1: defensive player of the year in Quinn. That defense. You know, 173 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 1: they played Seattle real tough last time they faced each other, 174 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 1: dominated Seattle last time. On the Seattle offense, they dominated 175 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 1: them on Monday night. That's a different scenario that it is. 176 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 1: I don't think that's so much better at home, and 177 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 1: the Rams are also so much better at home, but 178 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:32,320 Speaker 1: they just lost the game in which they had four 179 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 1: interceptions the first time in two years. I don't think 180 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 1: you're gonna see an an episte in either place because 181 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:40,679 Speaker 1: I think Carolina, look at Steve smith Is. If he's 182 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 1: not able to play, that's a big chunk out of 183 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 1: their offense. But he's not. As Damna check would say, 184 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:48,320 Speaker 1: the Jenga piece that suddenly they can't function. It's that 185 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 1: defense that's gonna shut down Atlanta, take control of Atlanta's 186 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:55,080 Speaker 1: offensive line. And I think we're looking at Carolina and 187 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 1: the and the Seahawks as you're one and two the odds. 188 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:01,200 Speaker 1: The odds say you're right. I've St. Louis, even though 189 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:06,680 Speaker 1: it's in Seattle, is a dangerous opponent because Arizona showed 190 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:10,080 Speaker 1: last week that a dominant defense can shut down that 191 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:12,679 Speaker 1: Seahawks offense. That's one of the worst games Russell Wilson's 192 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 1: ever had in his career. Seahawks win by at least 193 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:21,719 Speaker 1: three touches. It happened, and it's it's not going to 194 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 1: happen two times in a row. Well, you know, I 195 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:26,840 Speaker 1: don't buy that, because it's not gonna have people say, oh, 196 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:28,839 Speaker 1: they haven't lost two years. Well, they could have lost 197 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 1: the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, who had a good defensive performance 198 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:35,320 Speaker 1: that day. And Clemens on the road in the toughest 199 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 1: venue in the NFL with his starting weft tackle out. No, 200 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:41,679 Speaker 1: it's not gonna happen. It's gonna be a blow up. 201 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 1: We're gonna play this back for you when Kellen Clemens 202 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 1: drops the hammer on the entire NFC. By the way, 203 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 1: Kellen Clements only four incompletions last week. Kellen Clemens does 204 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 1: not have a hammer in his arsenal to drop on anyone. Alright, 205 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:58,839 Speaker 1: so we think Seattle probably wins that game, but if 206 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:02,560 Speaker 1: they don't for some reason, San Francisco has a chance 207 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 1: to slide into the division championship. If they win in Arizona. 208 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 1: They could even get the one seed if New Orleans, Carolina, 209 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 1: and Seattle all lose. So that it's hard to imagine, 210 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 1: but San Francisco has a chance. But let's say, okay, 211 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 1: Carolina does get that by Seattle gets to buy that. 212 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 1: Let's look at New Orleans in Tampa Bay. If New 213 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 1: Orleans wins that game, they are in the playoffs. It 214 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 1: is in New Orleans. If you're a Cardinals fan, you 215 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 1: need the Saints to lose. Do you guys think as 216 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 1: a Cardinals fan, there's any reason to be hopeful lost 217 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:43,440 Speaker 1: all year? They're not going to lose to the book 218 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 1: as the Cardinals twitter Acco Arizona's Twitter account last night 219 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 1: basically tweeted at the end of that Niners game and yes, 220 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 1: this is a Roger Goodell fever dream. I mean, this 221 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 1: couldn't have wound up any better for him. This is 222 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 1: what the league wants. Everyone's alive. I Like I said before, 223 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 1: the Cardinals are going to be left out of this 224 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 1: thing when they're playing better football than two thirds of 225 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 1: the a f C, if not the entire a f C. 226 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 1: Right now, that's a shame. What what are some other 227 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:17,679 Speaker 1: fever dreams? Roger Goodell would happen? Didn't know he had fever? Well? No, 228 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 1: the the concept that when what parody? We did not 229 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 1: exist at this degree back in the eighties. Obviously, now 230 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 1: this is exactly what they want, and there's a reason 231 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 1: for it because a big chunk of of of anyone 232 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:31,679 Speaker 1: rooting for any team has something to hope for this weekend. 233 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:33,720 Speaker 1: You know, if it's not your draft pick, it's everything else. 234 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:37,559 Speaker 1: This is Burt Bell's vision forget Roger Goodell. Let's drop 235 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 1: drop some history on you. Commissioner back in the fifties, 236 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 1: I believe the sixties. I think he first came up 237 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 1: with that saying in like nine what was the saying? 238 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 1: And he given Sunday and he given Sunday there you go. 239 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 1: And I think he was an owner at one point 240 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 1: two of the Eagles and he came up with the 241 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 1: whole idea to, you know, make the draft waded towards 242 00:11:57,840 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 1: the bad teams and make the schedule a little waited. 243 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 1: And the whole idea was to try to give everyone 244 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:06,679 Speaker 1: a chance. Every season. This Sunday, there's sixteen games. We're 245 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:10,199 Speaker 1: gonna be working hard. No, no Thursday, nothing else. It's 246 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 1: all Sunday, no Monday. Sixteen games. Fourteen of them have 247 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 1: playoff in complications. Because there's a thirteen or fourteen, it's thirteen. Actually, 248 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, it's enough of them. It's thirteen games have 249 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 1: playoff implications, whether seating or getting into the playoffs. We've 250 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 1: come a long way since the time when Burt Bell 251 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 1: rubber banded a team named to the back of a 252 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:32,840 Speaker 1: domino to make the schedules. Also in the Burt Bell era, 253 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:35,200 Speaker 1: and I know we're getting deep here, there was once 254 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:38,199 Speaker 1: the Stiegels. Do you remember this? There was the Steelers 255 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 1: in the Eagles and they were combined to make one 256 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 1: team for one year, I think during a war or 257 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 1: something like that. The Steels. That would be a nasty 258 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 1: team this season. Yeah, I think it was during World 259 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 1: War Two. The ear That would be a cool throwback. 260 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:53,440 Speaker 1: If someone was just wrapping rocking the Stiegel's jersey. Let's 261 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 1: move to the a f C. We we don't think 262 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 1: Arizona is gonna get in because we think New Orleans 263 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:02,079 Speaker 1: will win, although at don't know. Surprising things happen sometimes 264 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:04,720 Speaker 1: in these games that you assume something surprising will happen. 265 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 1: If I had to pick one of all these surprising things, 266 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:09,720 Speaker 1: I think it would be the Saints losing at home 267 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 1: because I think the Bucks are a decent team and 268 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:14,680 Speaker 1: I think the Saints are the one playoff team that 269 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 1: looks safe. That's a little shaky. I don't see that happening. 270 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:19,840 Speaker 1: All right, Let's move to the AX. Can't beat the 271 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:21,680 Speaker 1: Rams in St. Louis, but they can beat the Saints 272 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 1: in New Orleans. Hey, I just want people to watch 273 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 1: and be interested. Uh, you know, let's go to the 274 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 1: a f C and talk about the one seed should 275 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 1: go to Denver. They have to just beat Oakland and 276 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 1: Terrell Prior, who will get to in a minute, uh 277 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 1: is going to be starting for the Raiders. But it's 278 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:43,080 Speaker 1: hard to imagine the Raiders going into Denver and winning 279 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 1: that game. So they that's funny business Denver will they 280 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 1: have a bye though? So the worst they could be 281 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 1: is the two seeds. The Patriots host the Bills at 282 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 1: the same time, and if they can just beat the Bills, 283 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 1: they get the two seed. If they lose that game, 284 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:59,440 Speaker 1: the Bengals and the Colts both have a chance to 285 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 1: move up. The Colts would need the Bengals and the 286 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:06,679 Speaker 1: Patriots to lose the Bengals if they are in the 287 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 1: three spot and they have a chance to get that 288 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 1: buy Do you think there's any chance that two, three, 289 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 1: four slotting is shaken up at all? Right now it's 290 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:18,960 Speaker 1: Patriots Bengals Cults. Do you think that's that shakes up 291 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 1: at all? There's a chance, but I don't see it happening. Yeah. 292 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 1: I look at like Bill Belichick coach. Teams don't tend 293 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 1: to completely like dissemble in weeks six, weeks seventeen in 294 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 1: a big spot like this. The by means so much 295 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 1: to New England, and I do think the a f 296 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 1: C is gonna shake up in a way where, yeah, 297 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 1: you're two best teams in theory are one and two, 298 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 1: and we're not going to get the Cults getting to buy, 299 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 1: which would be a disaster. The Colts could move up 300 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 1: if the Bengals lose that game to the Ravens. Even 301 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 1: even if the Patriots, when the Colts could move up 302 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 1: to three, the Bengals go to four. You don't know 303 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 1: if that really even makes a difference. I don't think. 304 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 1: You don't know until what the teams are in. Uh, 305 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 1: we know the Chiefs are the five. So let's get 306 00:14:56,920 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 1: to the sixth seed, which is really the interesting, probably 307 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 1: the most fascinating thing this weekend is the sixth seed. 308 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 1: Do we think Pittsburgh or San Diego the two teams 309 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 1: that need more help? If you're picking one of those 310 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 1: two teams to get through, which would it be. Uh, 311 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 1: let's see. I think San Diego is the easier road. 312 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 1: I guess I have to go with San Diego just 313 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 1: because I don't trust the chief to play their starters 314 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 1: against the Chargers. Yeah, it's hard to argue with that. 315 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 1: There's a little magic to Pittsburgh. And I had I 316 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 1: don't know why I had this this idea last night 317 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 1: that we're gonna be looking back on an eight and 318 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 1: eight Steelers team that got into the playoffs and then 319 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 1: one a playoff game and became the team that no 320 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 1: one wanted to deal with, and it's gonna put all 321 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 1: those issues with big Ben and Haley way into the 322 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 1: background because you know what, when they're playing offense, Well, 323 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think any team can beat them 324 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:53,240 Speaker 1: in the a f C right now outside of Denver 325 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 1: and I I'd love to see Pittsburgh get in love it, 326 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 1: I I don't think it will happen. Though. They needed 327 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 1: three things to happen last weekend, and all three of 328 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 1: them happen this weekend. They need four things, but not 329 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 1: implausible things they need to win. Let's go through it. 330 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 1: They need the Dolphins to lose at home to the Jets. 331 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 1: I could see that. Sure. They need the Ravens to 332 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 1: lose in Cincinnati. That should happen. That should happen. And 333 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 1: they need the Chargers to lose to the Chiefs in 334 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 1: San Diego. I think that's the toughest one. That's the 335 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 1: toughest one, and to me, so much depends on Andy 336 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 1: Reid's attitude about playing his starters versus resting. Oh and 337 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 1: by the way, I realized this is a footnote, but 338 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 1: they also need to beat Cleveland. Oh you were short 339 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 1: of Sunday night that that was gonna happen. Then still 340 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 1: playing the season? That's right, No, it's it isn't just 341 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh just sitting at home waiting for these other three 342 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 1: things to fall. I do think, though, that they listen, 343 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 1: they will beat Cleveland, and I think, what if anything 344 00:16:57,680 --> 00:17:00,160 Speaker 1: can get down to the last game where there are 345 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 1: they all at the same time. These games, well, the 346 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:05,200 Speaker 1: San Diego game is later, so San Diego will line 347 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 1: up against Kansas City and they will either know they've 348 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 1: been eliminated or they will know they are in the 349 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:14,360 Speaker 1: playoffs with the winds. That'll be interesting. It's funny how 350 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:18,360 Speaker 1: the Colts and Chiefs have swapped spots this week. Last week, 351 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:20,880 Speaker 1: everyone you know, Jamal Charles is coming off historic game. 352 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:23,359 Speaker 1: Alex Smith's been playing so much better. They were the 353 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:26,399 Speaker 1: sneaky team in the FC. Greg is not the only 354 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 1: one I've heard now. I said this before, though, you 355 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:31,640 Speaker 1: were the first one I've heard say the Colts are 356 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 1: starting to look like the Ravens or the Giants. This 357 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 1: wild card team, well, they're not gonna be wild card, 358 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:38,639 Speaker 1: but a team that was kind of struggling and just 359 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:40,919 Speaker 1: picks up momentum. They fit that profile. I've heard other 360 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 1: people say that. Now everyone seems to think the Colts 361 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 1: are frisky. Now I don't have Andrew luck. He could 362 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:49,880 Speaker 1: convince me into anything, and he could talk me into 363 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 1: a new house or something. He could fell me gone 364 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 1: on the road and beating San Francisco, Kansas City. They've 365 00:17:56,600 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 1: beaten the Broncos at home. They seem to be tested 366 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 1: in these games. They've beaten the Seahawks at and it 367 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:03,199 Speaker 1: took them a month to figure out that. You know, 368 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 1: they've got a couple other past catchers starting to bubble up. 369 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 1: They didn't before. They maybe have figured out how to 370 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 1: get over that Reggie Wayne thing. And they looked like 371 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:17,119 Speaker 1: a team lost for a while. But honestly, outside of Denver, 372 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:19,480 Speaker 1: what team can't be beaten in the in the a 373 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 1: f C anything, And they can't. But let's just say 374 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:24,920 Speaker 1: they're the best team in theory right. If they're playing well, 375 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:27,360 Speaker 1: they're gonna be They're gonna roll well. They they had 376 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:31,480 Speaker 1: the the luck the fortunate happening. Last week they played 377 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:33,879 Speaker 1: a Chief team that hasn't rushed the passer and since 378 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 1: the first half of the season. Don't forget the col 379 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:38,359 Speaker 1: tip one of the worst offensive lines in the NFL. 380 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:42,399 Speaker 1: A good defensive front can take them out. You wrote 381 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:45,119 Speaker 1: the a f C playoff picture recap. It's up on 382 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 1: NFL dot com. My head, my head is spending. When 383 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 1: I had to come to mark the six seed thing, 384 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:56,960 Speaker 1: I exited that post not sure I am anymore. Well, 385 00:18:57,080 --> 00:18:59,879 Speaker 1: you you pointed out some numbers that are heavily waited 386 00:18:59,880 --> 00:19:01,679 Speaker 1: for of the Dolphins, and we'll move on to the 387 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 1: news shortly. But the numbers say the Dolphins are the 388 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:07,360 Speaker 1: heavy favorites here for the spot right right, Well, are 389 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 1: those the Football Outsider site that does weigh percentages and 390 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:12,959 Speaker 1: they do a great job with that. They put them 391 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:16,720 Speaker 1: at like fift and I think the next was eighteen 392 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:19,720 Speaker 1: percent or something for Baltimore. Such a big gas surprising 393 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 1: to me, but I guess the Dolphins just need less 394 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 1: help than any It surprised me too. What I think 395 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:27,399 Speaker 1: is if they all win, all of them, Miami is 396 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 1: the one team that wins that has to weigh heavily 397 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:31,680 Speaker 1: in the percentage, and if they all lose, it's Miami. 398 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:35,200 Speaker 1: And I think the big thing there is they take 399 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:38,199 Speaker 1: into account who you're playing, and they don't see the 400 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 1: Jets as a good team at all. They see him 401 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:43,920 Speaker 1: as about the team in the league, and they're that's fair. 402 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:45,440 Speaker 1: But I don't see the Dolphins is a good team 403 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 1: at all either, no, and the recipe for disaster we 404 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 1: saw against Buffalo nineteen to nothing. Miami played its worst 405 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:53,720 Speaker 1: game of the year. When you get their offensive line 406 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 1: against a defensive line that can cause havoc. That's the Jets. 407 00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:00,720 Speaker 1: And what what defense is more similar to Buffalo. They're 408 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:03,119 Speaker 1: not as good as Buffalo, I don't think overall, but 409 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:05,480 Speaker 1: in terms of the scheme and the players, it's the 410 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 1: Jets defense. Mike Petton, Rex Ryan and the Dolphins will 411 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:10,879 Speaker 1: abandon the run at any sign. No one's run on 412 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:13,119 Speaker 1: the Jets all year. So that the Dolphins need to 413 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 1: win and they need either Baltimore to lose or San 414 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:21,639 Speaker 1: Diego to win. So that's San Diego game. It's interesting 415 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:24,760 Speaker 1: because the Dolphins win any three way tie. If if 416 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 1: the Dolphins and the Ravens win early, the Dolphins will 417 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:31,920 Speaker 1: be sitting there watching the Chargers, rooting for the Chargers 418 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 1: to win. It doesn't make any sense. I'd be fine 419 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 1: if the a f C playoffs, just for the sake 420 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:43,679 Speaker 1: of our nation and for the people that watch football, 421 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 1: went down to four teams. If the Dolphins make the playoffs, 422 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:48,200 Speaker 1: I'm in a petition Gregg to let me not cover 423 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:50,240 Speaker 1: that game. I can just not watch it in any 424 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:53,160 Speaker 1: shipfually not want to watch the Dolphins in the playoffs. 425 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:55,960 Speaker 1: It's a travesty. They're not a good team. You should 426 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:58,679 Speaker 1: know by now that even the fact that you just 427 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:08,440 Speaker 1: said that, just now guaranteed your just to annoy you. God, Please, no, 428 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:17,440 Speaker 1: no boring the gold standard behind the glass today and 429 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 1: before we move on, I agree with you. I don't 430 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 1: want to see the Dolphins. I want to see the Cardinals. 431 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:25,240 Speaker 1: Like Mark, let's think about receding these playoffs and let's 432 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 1: just have the wild cards come out of any conference 433 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 1: and that the the division winners or all the division 434 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:34,520 Speaker 1: winners they're in. But after that it's the next four 435 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:38,399 Speaker 1: best teams from any conference and just throw them around wherever. 436 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:40,960 Speaker 1: Maybe throw the Arizona to the f C, take away 437 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 1: the conferences. We came from another sport, just spinking the 438 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:47,159 Speaker 1: best group of people you can do. I'm serious, wouldn't 439 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 1: that be a better playoffs? Have put Arizona over in 440 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:50,960 Speaker 1: the a f C playoffs this year in the wild 441 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:53,919 Speaker 1: card and something like that. Go for what. The NFL 442 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:57,200 Speaker 1: has shown a willingness more than any other professional sports 443 00:21:57,280 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 1: team to mess with the rules to make the fan 444 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:03,960 Speaker 1: experience better. Major League Baseball would never make any change. 445 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:06,600 Speaker 1: Look at the Pro Bowl. I mean there suddenly they 446 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:08,879 Speaker 1: mixed that soup up. I could see this happening. And 447 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:11,080 Speaker 1: if I was a professional host like Dan, I would 448 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:13,919 Speaker 1: have teased earlier that we're going to go over some 449 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:16,960 Speaker 1: of our Pro Bowl picks. But first, let's get to 450 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:22,880 Speaker 1: a little bit of news. All right, we gotta start 451 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:28,879 Speaker 1: with Tony Romo. The news room was filled with excitement. 452 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 1: I've never seen so many well, well, how would you 453 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:36,280 Speaker 1: describe it. The news room was a fluster with uh, 454 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:40,639 Speaker 1: you know, well, we didn't know what the situation wasn't 455 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 1: what was when it dropped in the news. You know, 456 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:48,080 Speaker 1: the first report is he's out for the year, and 457 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:51,199 Speaker 1: we keep learning more and then Jason Garrett comes out. 458 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:54,000 Speaker 1: He refuses to say that I've never seen so many 459 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:57,240 Speaker 1: middle aged men running around so fast. There was a 460 00:22:57,280 --> 00:23:01,119 Speaker 1: buzz in the air. Uh. And right now as we 461 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 1: tape this on Christmas Eve, Jerry Jones has expressed I 462 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:09,920 Speaker 1: would say some optimism or hope that Tony Romo could 463 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:13,720 Speaker 1: play this week despite his herniated disc in his back, 464 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 1: and he basically says he could. He might be cleared 465 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:20,200 Speaker 1: if he feels better later in the week. There's nothing 466 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:24,960 Speaker 1: structurally wrong that says he couldn't play. NFL media insider 467 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 1: Ian Rappaport has reported through his source that Romo is 468 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:33,000 Speaker 1: unlikely to play, but it's something I think, based on 469 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:37,239 Speaker 1: Garrett and Jones's comments, that we're not going to know 470 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 1: about until the end of the week. It's similar to 471 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:42,960 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers here in that it's purely a medical decision. 472 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:46,480 Speaker 1: Jones has said, if there's any way we leave it 473 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:49,280 Speaker 1: up to Romo, he'll play through the pain. He's reportedly 474 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 1: getting an epidural for the pain. So the Cowboys are 475 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 1: approaching this as if there if there's any chance that 476 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:58,560 Speaker 1: Romo can play, it will happen, but it depends on 477 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:01,240 Speaker 1: the medical clearance. You know, it's the second week in 478 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:04,840 Speaker 1: a row where they got frisky with the flexing of 479 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:09,639 Speaker 1: a game and Sunday night where the Cowboys game that 480 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 1: we thought we'd see could be very different, and a 481 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:15,680 Speaker 1: lot of people I wrote a PC yesterday basically, I 482 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:17,680 Speaker 1: don't want to hand it to the Eagles, but this 483 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:20,399 Speaker 1: isn't a good matchup for Dallas, even with Romo on 484 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 1: the field, and I don't like their chances with Orton, 485 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:26,640 Speaker 1: who hasn't played in two years, being thrust into that lineup. Yeah, 486 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 1: I didn't mention the NFC East playoff picture or NFC 487 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:31,640 Speaker 1: North that I knew we'd talked about here in the news. That's, 488 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 1: of course, the winner take all game. I think we 489 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 1: both we all like the Eagles to win that game, 490 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 1: even if Romo is around. I will say that the 491 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:42,720 Speaker 1: Romo factor, if he does come back from this, it 492 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:46,160 Speaker 1: just there's always so much drama. It would be fascinating 493 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:49,200 Speaker 1: with Romo and his career, and if he could get 494 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:51,440 Speaker 1: out there, what a what a moment on Sunday night 495 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 1: that would be with a division on the line, right, 496 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 1: I'd love to see him play, and I want to 497 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 1: see what kind of created creative drama he can come 498 00:24:57,600 --> 00:24:59,439 Speaker 1: up with with a bad back. The last time I 499 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:02,399 Speaker 1: was this I did about a Kyle Orton game was 500 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 1: two thousand eleven, Week seventeen, Kyle Orton returns to Denver 501 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 1: as a member of the Chiefs with a chance to 502 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:14,120 Speaker 1: get revenge on tebow Mania. You were as excited then 503 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 1: as you are now about I. I was excited for 504 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:18,639 Speaker 1: that game. It just felt it was he did, and 505 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:21,359 Speaker 1: then Denver backs into the place. No, no, that Denver 506 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:24,720 Speaker 1: one three to nothing, I believe, and Tim Tebow had 507 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:26,879 Speaker 1: two completions in that game and it was the worst 508 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 1: game ever. So Kyle or and don't don't let me 509 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:32,720 Speaker 1: down again. That was It was a big disappointment. Let's 510 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:35,480 Speaker 1: move on and talk about von Miller, a story that 511 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:38,439 Speaker 1: got lost in the shuffle yesterday. He is out for 512 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:41,879 Speaker 1: the season, one of the league's best defensive players, on 513 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:44,320 Speaker 1: the a f c's number one seed, and yet this 514 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:47,920 Speaker 1: story sort of got lost with everything else that went on. 515 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:52,760 Speaker 1: How does this change your view of the Broncos Mark Sessler, Well, 516 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:55,040 Speaker 1: you know, people quickly point to the fact that they 517 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:57,200 Speaker 1: were six and oh without him to start the season, 518 00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:58,959 Speaker 1: and there's a lot of talent in Denver, and if 519 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:01,440 Speaker 1: the offense is doing what it can do, it's not 520 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 1: the same as if the Chiefs lost the equivalent of 521 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:07,240 Speaker 1: von Miller. But I think he's the most complete defense 522 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:09,480 Speaker 1: or defensive player in the in the in the league 523 00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:12,560 Speaker 1: right now. He can do everything well and uh, you know, 524 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 1: maybe he wasn't having his best season, but it's a 525 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 1: big loss because a lot of the guys that they 526 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 1: had when they win six and oh also aren't healthy. 527 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:22,639 Speaker 1: They're not a They're not a healthy defense right now. Wolf, 528 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:27,159 Speaker 1: Kevin Vickerson, Raheim More, Wesley Woodyard all were healthy and 529 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:30,199 Speaker 1: playing well when von Miller was out. None of that 530 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 1: is true right now. I feel like if if the 531 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:35,480 Speaker 1: Broncos are gonna win, they're gonna have to score forty 532 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 1: points every game. Now. Whereas I thought there was some 533 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:42,240 Speaker 1: hope that Champ Bailey coming back, Von Miller maybe more, 534 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:46,120 Speaker 1: and Wolf and what you'd all come back and they 535 00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 1: could have a pretty good defense in the playoffs, I 536 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 1: no longer think they'll have a good defense in the playoffs. 537 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:52,960 Speaker 1: Their cornerback Cavan Webster, who was playing okay for them, 538 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:56,080 Speaker 1: is also injured. Bailey has been a shell of his 539 00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:58,199 Speaker 1: former self. They had a four game stretch where they 540 00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:01,280 Speaker 1: gave up twenty nine points per game up until last 541 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 1: week when you know they got to play the Texans. 542 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:06,119 Speaker 1: Every team in the a f C has problems, but 543 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:08,159 Speaker 1: they have a problem. They're an imbalanced team. I mean, 544 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:10,359 Speaker 1: they're not as banged up as the Patriots. They're probably 545 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 1: not as imbalanced as the Patriots. The Patriots defense is 546 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 1: not good either. So they still should be seen as 547 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 1: the favorites, but I don't see them as some gigantic 548 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:21,399 Speaker 1: favorite by any means. Uh, Let's talk about a story 549 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 1: you wrote last night, Chris WESSELEYN Terrell Prior and his 550 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:30,200 Speaker 1: agent are getting into the mixed Terrell Prior will start 551 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:33,120 Speaker 1: this Sunday in week seventeen against the Broncos. To tell 552 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:37,359 Speaker 1: us about what his agent was saying. Terrell Prayer's agent, 553 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:40,159 Speaker 1: it seems like he's been frothing at the mouth, just 554 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:43,200 Speaker 1: waiting to get this out. This has been festering for 555 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 1: six weeks. Uh told CSM Barry Bay Area last night 556 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,960 Speaker 1: that Dennis Allen is setting Terrell Prior up to fail 557 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:56,000 Speaker 1: by removing Matt McGloin and starting Prior against the Broncos, 558 00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:58,760 Speaker 1: who are on the bottom third in the NFL and defense, 559 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:01,600 Speaker 1: and against him. Prior had the second best game of 560 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 1: his career earlier this season. So it's an odd way 561 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 1: to sabotage your quarterback. It is odd. It's an opportunity, 562 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:11,000 Speaker 1: and that's what he's been asking for. It's these the 563 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:14,239 Speaker 1: comments were just out of this world crazy, you know, 564 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 1: the things he was saying that Dennis Allen stumbled upon 565 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 1: a gym the find of the season Carrell Prior, and 566 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:26,479 Speaker 1: he botched the discovery of this gym. It's just at 567 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:31,119 Speaker 1: the Find of the season in Oakland. No, you couldn't 568 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:33,359 Speaker 1: throw the ball. Well, I'm not seeing he's a great player. 569 00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:36,760 Speaker 1: But I mean I get the in agents speak reduced 570 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 1: down to normal language. Everyone thought Torrell Prior was a 571 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:42,160 Speaker 1: lost cause, and you know he was. He is a 572 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 1: great athlete we discovered this year. But is he a 573 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:47,560 Speaker 1: great quarterback? No, but it's an opportunity. I don't see 574 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:50,400 Speaker 1: how he's being sabotaged. This is the same as any 575 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:54,160 Speaker 1: other situation in which there's no answer at quarterback and 576 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 1: the coach just goes with the hot hand. You can't 577 00:28:56,520 --> 00:29:00,160 Speaker 1: blame him for that. Prior had eight interceptions with out 578 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:01,960 Speaker 1: a touchdown over a four game stretch in which the 579 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 1: offense fell apart. You can't blame a coach for turn 580 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:08,560 Speaker 1: into another option. Yeah. If if anything, Dennis Allen is 581 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 1: trying to save his job. He's not trying to sabotage anyone. 582 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:13,120 Speaker 1: He's trying to win the game. And he thinks Prior, 583 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 1: who played well against Denver before, could help him do that. 584 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 1: It's just I would. I would bet the Broncos are 585 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:21,080 Speaker 1: a lot more scared of Terrell Prior than Matt mcgloyan. 586 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 1: Right now, that's fair. It's an odd move by an 587 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:27,720 Speaker 1: agent and not agent well put him in a bad spot. 588 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:31,080 Speaker 1: Prior had to quickly apologize and say these comments are 589 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:34,480 Speaker 1: not how I feel towards the Raiders organization, and YadA, YadA, YadA. 590 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:36,320 Speaker 1: So he put his client in a bad spot. You 591 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:38,680 Speaker 1: could say this is the most important game of Prior's career. 592 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 1: Now he has to leave an imprint on the front 593 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:42,280 Speaker 1: office for the for the season, and he's got to 594 00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:46,080 Speaker 1: spend the week defending his agents dumb com dumb comments. Well, 595 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:48,160 Speaker 1: Prior ever left the Raiders week, don't you think he'd 596 00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:52,040 Speaker 1: get another job in a second? He would quickly be 597 00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,720 Speaker 1: brought in somewhere else to work with. Absolutely, it could 598 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:56,959 Speaker 1: be the last start he ever makes, though without an 599 00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,440 Speaker 1: injury in front of him. I mean that that's where 600 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:01,200 Speaker 1: he's at to a game. It was just such a 601 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:04,320 Speaker 1: wild story. I've We've written these types of We've written 602 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:06,360 Speaker 1: stories for a long time, and I've never seen one 603 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 1: quite like this that we have to mention it. Let's 604 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:10,600 Speaker 1: get to Aaron Rodgers as we wrap up the news. 605 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:14,080 Speaker 1: As we tape this, the one thing we know is 606 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy said that he wants an answer on Roger's 607 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:19,840 Speaker 1: status a little sooner this week than he has in 608 00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:22,080 Speaker 1: past weeks. And that's really the only thing that's different, 609 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 1: The only thing that would give me hope if I 610 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:27,680 Speaker 1: was a Packers fan, is he did hint, strongly hinted 611 00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:30,080 Speaker 1: that he and Ted Thompson could take the decision in 612 00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:34,000 Speaker 1: their own hands this week and remove the medical evaluation. 613 00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 1: That would give me a little bit of hope if 614 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 1: I was, I wouldn't he have been playing for the 615 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:42,720 Speaker 1: past week or two. Yes, I don't think there's any question, 616 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:45,040 Speaker 1: well maybe seventy eight. I don't know about the decision 617 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:48,160 Speaker 1: comes down to Thompson. It sounds like, ultimately from the 618 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:51,320 Speaker 1: reporters in Green Bay, for what it's worth, there was 619 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:54,320 Speaker 1: a feeling among some reporters there that the wind was 620 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:57,320 Speaker 1: changing on Monday. But I don't think we know. I 621 00:30:57,320 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 1: think we'll find out earlier in the week. We're taping 622 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:03,800 Speaker 1: this again Tuesday, so we'll see. I don't think we 623 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 1: give do we give Matt Flynn much of a chance 624 00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:08,000 Speaker 1: If if he's not in, and I think we're up 625 00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:10,920 Speaker 1: a chance against that defense. I think we're all picking 626 00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:14,720 Speaker 1: the Packers if Rogers is playing, no question, Let's get 627 00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 1: Rogers into the playoffs, shall we. Let's get Chip Kelly 628 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:23,560 Speaker 1: into the playoffs. Let's get either Roethlisberger or Rivers into 629 00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:27,200 Speaker 1: the playoffs. Let's get all the good quarterbacks and offenses. 630 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:29,720 Speaker 1: Thank you, That's what I would like. All right, we 631 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:33,240 Speaker 1: just talked about Rivers in Roethlisberger. Well I mentioned them. 632 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 1: There two of the quarterbacks that got some Pro Bowl 633 00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:44,000 Speaker 1: voting on our first annual Pro Bowl ballots unconferenced on 634 00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:49,280 Speaker 1: NFL dot com. If you want to find it, I 635 00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:53,520 Speaker 1: would just google the words Lyle, the intern and Pro 636 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:56,320 Speaker 1: Bowl voting and you will find it. It's got all 637 00:31:56,360 --> 00:32:01,120 Speaker 1: our Pro Bowl choices and we're gonna they're gonna get 638 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:05,880 Speaker 1: announced this Friday on NFL Network. We're gonna have some 639 00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:09,920 Speaker 1: reaction for you on NFL dot Com. You can still 640 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:13,800 Speaker 1: vote if you're listening to this by December. So if 641 00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:17,760 Speaker 1: it's Christmas Eve, Christmas Day, what what could be better 642 00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:20,000 Speaker 1: than unwrapping from Pro Bowl. You know, when you're done 643 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:23,520 Speaker 1: opening your presence and it's it's depressing because you if 644 00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:25,760 Speaker 1: not now as an adult, as a kid, you waited 645 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:28,200 Speaker 1: all year for Christmas. Then it's suddenly over and it's 646 00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:31,280 Speaker 1: like four o'clock on Christmas Day. That's when you get 647 00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 1: on that computer and you start to knock off. At 648 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:36,600 Speaker 1: that point, that's the point where you think, what would 649 00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:42,360 Speaker 1: I rather do? Then choose Marcel Reese or John Connor. 650 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:46,240 Speaker 1: That's exciting. This could be fun choosing the fullback for 651 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:52,920 Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl. Let's talk about some of our choices. Um, 652 00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:57,840 Speaker 1: let's go through the quarterbacks first, and uh, Mark Sessler, 653 00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:01,040 Speaker 1: you had Ben Roethlisberger on your list, Chris Westley and 654 00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:06,160 Speaker 1: I did not. You left off Tom Brady. I thought 655 00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:10,880 Speaker 1: that was interesting. What's your decision making this number one? 656 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:13,120 Speaker 1: You get to pick six guys, and do I think 657 00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:15,280 Speaker 1: that there's seven or eight guys that would be if 658 00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:17,320 Speaker 1: they were in a Pro Bowl game. I wouldn't blink. Yes, 659 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:20,360 Speaker 1: And I just went Roethlisberger because I look at this 660 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:22,640 Speaker 1: team and you take him out of what Pittsburgh is 661 00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 1: not that. This isn't true a Brady. This isn't a 662 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:27,479 Speaker 1: big Ben verse Brady thing. I just love what Ben 663 00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:29,800 Speaker 1: has done this season. I think that he He proved 664 00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:33,400 Speaker 1: to me that something that West pounded the table on 665 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:36,560 Speaker 1: a couple of months ago. As bad as the Steelers were, 666 00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:39,400 Speaker 1: when you have that quarterback, you can't count them out. 667 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:41,600 Speaker 1: We're still talking about them as a potential playoff team. 668 00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:44,800 Speaker 1: And I think he's the toughest quarterback around, and so 669 00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:46,960 Speaker 1: it wasn't hard for me to vote for him. Now, 670 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,320 Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl is different this year than it's ever 671 00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:51,520 Speaker 1: been in the past. I don't know if people know this. 672 00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:54,720 Speaker 1: Let's bring in the gold standard here to just see. 673 00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:58,080 Speaker 1: Are you aware how the Pro Bowl is different this year? 674 00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:00,960 Speaker 1: And could you explain it how it is different? This 675 00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:04,040 Speaker 1: is a real trial by fire. I do believe that 676 00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:05,640 Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl is different this year, and that the 677 00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:10,080 Speaker 1: fans have a larger steak and there's no conference based votings. 678 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:12,959 Speaker 1: I don't know if correct. I was about to say, 679 00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:15,439 Speaker 1: but I don't know if the fans have a larger stake. 680 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:19,840 Speaker 1: I don't think they did. But the conference voting is 681 00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:22,799 Speaker 1: what you got. So you don't have to choose three 682 00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:26,640 Speaker 1: a f C or three NFC quarterbacks. You just choose 683 00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:31,040 Speaker 1: your favorite six quarterbacks or your favorite six running backs, 684 00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:33,080 Speaker 1: and it could be five from the NFC one from 685 00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:35,080 Speaker 1: the a f C. Whoever you think are the best? 686 00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:38,399 Speaker 1: Chris Wesley, you had Andrew Luck. You were the only 687 00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:41,160 Speaker 1: one of the five A t L writers. Kevin patra 688 00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:43,680 Speaker 1: Dan also of course had their votes. You're the only 689 00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:45,759 Speaker 1: one that I Andrew Luck in the Pro Bowl. Well, 690 00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:47,839 Speaker 1: let me just first say that this is the Pro Bowl, 691 00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:51,080 Speaker 1: which is you know, we're not talking about the most 692 00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:53,440 Speaker 1: important game of the year here. Your Pro Bowl bout 693 00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:56,000 Speaker 1: is not the Magna Carta. It's fun to talk about 694 00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:59,040 Speaker 1: what I'm just saying. You're allowed to like. Okay, some 695 00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:00,759 Speaker 1: of these picks are going to be no brainers. They 696 00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:04,400 Speaker 1: have to be acknowledged for their greatness. You can I 697 00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:06,520 Speaker 1: think out of six quarterbacks you can pick one or two. 698 00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:09,880 Speaker 1: I have no problem picking Andrew Luck over Tom Brady, right, 699 00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:13,120 Speaker 1: or even Ben Roethlisberger. Andrew Luck without him, I think 700 00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:16,160 Speaker 1: the Quotes not only don't win the division, they're probably 701 00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:18,839 Speaker 1: a three win team. I think he's put that team 702 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:21,600 Speaker 1: on his back all year and carried then, and I 703 00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:24,359 Speaker 1: think he should be acknowledged for that. Tom Brady's missed 704 00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:27,200 Speaker 1: too many throws for my like, I think he's still 705 00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:30,480 Speaker 1: He's extremely valuable he's carried that team too, But I 706 00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:33,319 Speaker 1: think Luck has been uh he should be acknowledged for 707 00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:35,759 Speaker 1: what he's doing. Well, I can't argue with any of that. 708 00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:38,759 Speaker 1: You chose Luck over your boy Cam Newton. Wow, the 709 00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:41,480 Speaker 1: quarterback position, it's tough to just get to six it was. 710 00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:44,719 Speaker 1: I had Cam Newton, Marquette. Cam Cam Newton is a 711 00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:48,880 Speaker 1: prainting schmo. He's not my boy. Whoa but you're always 712 00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:51,360 Speaker 1: defending here. But I don't like him. I would not 713 00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:53,680 Speaker 1: vote for him for the Pro Bowl. Well you would 714 00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:55,399 Speaker 1: if he you thought he was one of the six 715 00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:57,920 Speaker 1: best quarter He didn't do that stupid Superman thing and 716 00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:00,840 Speaker 1: in the first down dance for a quarter Wow, a 717 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:04,359 Speaker 1: quarterback should not be I'm pretty sure that in the 718 00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:06,520 Speaker 1: by laws of probo voting you were not allowed to, 719 00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:10,160 Speaker 1: you know, count touchdown celebrations as part of your vote. 720 00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:18,440 Speaker 1: I'm talking about and and the and the fans always 721 00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:22,000 Speaker 1: blow it, you know, every All Star voting, Pro Bow voting. 722 00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:25,759 Speaker 1: I'm encouraging everyone to vote and and check out our 723 00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:30,000 Speaker 1: picks and use those to help you not choose some 724 00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:34,399 Speaker 1: star that stinks now, because there's always big mistakes when 725 00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:38,440 Speaker 1: you vote too much. I had Cam Newton, and I 726 00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:40,880 Speaker 1: had Brady and there was all there was. Basically, there 727 00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:44,080 Speaker 1: weren't that many disagreements. I had Brady, Breeze, Manning, Newton, Rivers. 728 00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:45,840 Speaker 1: I would say that, and we'll look at our five 729 00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:50,719 Speaker 1: slates together. There were very few controversies. Yeah, they we 730 00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:53,919 Speaker 1: were fairly similar. There's just little differences, like Dan chose 731 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:55,480 Speaker 1: Nick Foles for the pro BO, which I think is 732 00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:57,880 Speaker 1: totally legitimate. You can make that, Chase, I think you 733 00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:01,440 Speaker 1: missed too many games. Another interesting pick, Ryan Matthews at 734 00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:03,439 Speaker 1: running back. You were the only one that chose him, Chris, 735 00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:06,400 Speaker 1: I like that choice. Well, I don't see why not. Um, 736 00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:09,239 Speaker 1: he's had more. He's had as many yard games as 737 00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:12,480 Speaker 1: any running back. He's really carried that offense over the 738 00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:16,120 Speaker 1: last four or five games. You've greg You've mentioned that 739 00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:19,200 Speaker 1: he if there was a spot for first and second 740 00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:21,480 Speaker 1: down running back, he might be an All Pro. He's 741 00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:24,319 Speaker 1: run as hard between the tackles as Adrian Peterson and 742 00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:27,239 Speaker 1: Marshawn Lynch this year. And to me, Ryan Matthews is 743 00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:30,279 Speaker 1: the one guy in the NFL this year you can 744 00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:32,480 Speaker 1: tell are you watching the games? Well, that's a great 745 00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:34,719 Speaker 1: point because I think right it's quickly. You mentioned Ryan 746 00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,640 Speaker 1: Matthews to to almost anyone. Oh, but isn't he the 747 00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:39,920 Speaker 1: guy that's always injured? Isn't he the guy that's been 748 00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:43,440 Speaker 1: a disappointment. Actually, if you just put you ripped the 749 00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:45,960 Speaker 1: names off all these guys jerseys, he is a very 750 00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:48,480 Speaker 1: good Pro Bowl pick. He's the guy that if you're 751 00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:50,360 Speaker 1: trying to tackle him a couple of yards from scummard, 752 00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:52,600 Speaker 1: you better get ready because he's gonna run you over it. 753 00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:57,880 Speaker 1: He's been one of the that's two times, you know, 754 00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:02,240 Speaker 1: felt a little manufactured. The stay not at all. I understand. 755 00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:03,680 Speaker 1: I like it though it's a it's a bit at 756 00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:07,680 Speaker 1: this point. Matthews is one of those guys. It's fun 757 00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:09,759 Speaker 1: to watch, is what I'm trying to say. He's he 758 00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:11,759 Speaker 1: gets you fired up. Yeah, No one's killing and West 759 00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:14,279 Speaker 1: has been. You've been riding the uh that that train 760 00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:18,279 Speaker 1: for all season long. It's my Twitter consensus theory. If 761 00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:21,319 Speaker 1: you have every fantasy football expert in the landa green 762 00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:24,400 Speaker 1: on something, or every sportswriter in the landa green on something, 763 00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:26,920 Speaker 1: You're probably gonna be right if you go the other way. 764 00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:29,680 Speaker 1: It's a good point. I had to put Frank Gore 765 00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:33,160 Speaker 1: into The Pro Bowl also had Matt Forte, Charles Lynch, 766 00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:36,480 Speaker 1: Lasawn McCoy, Peterson. There's so many good running backs this 767 00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:39,239 Speaker 1: year that you really couldn't argue too much that six 768 00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:41,440 Speaker 1: spot was where we all kind of differred. You know, 769 00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:43,239 Speaker 1: you had Matthews, I had Gore. I believe you had 770 00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:52,280 Speaker 1: Alfred Morris, Eddie Lacy at wide receiver. We were really 771 00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:56,040 Speaker 1: similar across the board. Some people had Alson Jeffrey and 772 00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:59,600 Speaker 1: Brandon Marshall. Some people did not have Brandon Marshall. There 773 00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:03,520 Speaker 1: was a lot of the Marius Thomas Jordy Nelson decisions. 774 00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:06,040 Speaker 1: You guys went with Nelson in my right, I did 775 00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:09,120 Speaker 1: go with Nelson, and it's more for the degree of 776 00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:11,320 Speaker 1: difficulty on the catches he made early in the season 777 00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:13,640 Speaker 1: when Aaron Rodgers was there. But I would have no 778 00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:15,839 Speaker 1: problem with somebody choosing to marry as Thomas over him. 779 00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:19,080 Speaker 1: Oh it's another category where there's clearly, you know more 780 00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:22,600 Speaker 1: than enough guys that would be no issue Pro Bowl players, 781 00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:25,520 Speaker 1: but you can only pick so many. Dan has the 782 00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:28,680 Speaker 1: qualification which I like of did. Is he a player 783 00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:31,960 Speaker 1: that made plays to change games and win games. And 784 00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:36,400 Speaker 1: Nelson against Dallas that touchdown Catchy had where he reached 785 00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:39,040 Speaker 1: over the defender that started to comeback. And then there 786 00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:41,319 Speaker 1: was a third and nine later in that in that 787 00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:45,280 Speaker 1: game where he reaches out one handed on a crossing route. 788 00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:47,439 Speaker 1: If he doesn't make either one of those plays, which 789 00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:50,759 Speaker 1: are exceptional, he's made him in that game. And he 790 00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:52,879 Speaker 1: didn't have big numbers that day, but those were two 791 00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:55,480 Speaker 1: plays that almost no one's gonna make. A Jordy Nelson 792 00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:57,439 Speaker 1: highlight reel will be more fun to watch than any 793 00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:03,760 Speaker 1: other receiver. Nflue Ex doesn't pick Josh Gordon, but selects 794 00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:06,880 Speaker 1: Greg Little. When we talked about watching the games, I 795 00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:12,240 Speaker 1: would suggest maybe check back in Mark. You chose Julius Thomas, 796 00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:14,880 Speaker 1: give give the tight end a little bit of love. Well, 797 00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:18,040 Speaker 1: I think that there's number one. I went Cronkowski as 798 00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:19,600 Speaker 1: part of this group. I don't care if he's hurt. 799 00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:21,480 Speaker 1: That guy is by far the best. But to me, 800 00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:26,120 Speaker 1: it came down to Julius Thomas and Jordan Cameron, and 801 00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:28,920 Speaker 1: I am a Browns homer to some degree, but I 802 00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:31,839 Speaker 1: went against Cameron because I loved If this season ended 803 00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:33,640 Speaker 1: a week eight, he would have been a home run pick. 804 00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:36,040 Speaker 1: But he really vanished down the stretch. Where I think 805 00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:38,720 Speaker 1: Julius Thomas and West again one of the first guys 806 00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:41,680 Speaker 1: to mention him over the summer. Thomas, to me was 807 00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:44,719 Speaker 1: a revelation this season. I think he's still producing and 808 00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:47,400 Speaker 1: part of a record setting offense. And uh again, I 809 00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:48,759 Speaker 1: just went it was a flip of a coin. I 810 00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:51,160 Speaker 1: went Thomas. I had the same decision and went with 811 00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:53,879 Speaker 1: your boy Jordan Cameron, whereas you went with my boy 812 00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:58,279 Speaker 1: Julius Thomas. And it's because to me, Cameron had better 813 00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:01,480 Speaker 1: numbers except for the touch ounds with three different quarterbacks, 814 00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:03,400 Speaker 1: one of whom ignored him for most of the year 815 00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:06,279 Speaker 1: and Jason Campbell. And I can't blame Jordan Cameron because 816 00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:09,439 Speaker 1: Jason Campbell won't throw to him, and Cameron still wasn't 817 00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:11,120 Speaker 1: one of the I think he was third in yards 818 00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:15,000 Speaker 1: among tight ends he had. He disappeared for times and 819 00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:17,640 Speaker 1: maybe that's not his fault. It's not his fault. That's 820 00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:21,080 Speaker 1: what that was the quarterback. And to me, that didn't 821 00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:23,399 Speaker 1: a mistake. I didn't have him on there. They didn't 822 00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:27,560 Speaker 1: have Gronkowski either. You can't put Groundkowski, you absolutely because 823 00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:29,360 Speaker 1: he saw how much of a difference he made to 824 00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:32,480 Speaker 1: that Cameron and Thomas both former college basketball players. I 825 00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:35,719 Speaker 1: think Jordan Cameron is more athletic, moves more fluidly, and 826 00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:38,239 Speaker 1: if you put him in the Broncos offense, he's even 827 00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:41,640 Speaker 1: better than Julius seen that I put Thomas in. I 828 00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:44,319 Speaker 1: don't like putting anyone that misses four games. That's about 829 00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:47,000 Speaker 1: my cutoff. That's if the baseball player missed forty games, 830 00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:48,600 Speaker 1: you would never put him in the Pro in the 831 00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:51,239 Speaker 1: All Star Games. Drunk would play three games and get 832 00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:55,279 Speaker 1: my vote over these bum tight ends putting none of 833 00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:58,560 Speaker 1: them are. Let's wrap up strong, shall we? Because the 834 00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:03,799 Speaker 1: people have been email tweeting saying where is Mark's take 835 00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:07,719 Speaker 1: on t J? Ward round safety? Can we can we 836 00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:10,680 Speaker 1: get that before Christmas? Can we talk a little Pro 837 00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:13,520 Speaker 1: Bowl campaign for t J. Ward? Well, you know, I 838 00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:16,160 Speaker 1: thought the safety group was interesting. There's a lot of 839 00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:19,160 Speaker 1: good safeties and um there's a lot of bad ones too, frankly, 840 00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:21,879 Speaker 1: But for me, Ward, I think that he's the guy 841 00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:24,360 Speaker 1: that I think if he played in a different city, 842 00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:26,480 Speaker 1: for a different team that was on television a little 843 00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:29,960 Speaker 1: bit more, he'd be he'd have more recognition. By nature. 844 00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:32,359 Speaker 1: Each week I was covering the Browns and I wasn't 845 00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:35,040 Speaker 1: happy with Ward in past seasons because I found him 846 00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:37,919 Speaker 1: to be very spotty in terms of coverage. I think 847 00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:41,120 Speaker 1: he's become a much better player this season. And look, 848 00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:43,640 Speaker 1: I just pulled the trigger when we were giving this exercise. 849 00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:45,920 Speaker 1: One of the things that most looked most forward to 850 00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:48,600 Speaker 1: was putting t J. Ward on my ballot outside of 851 00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:51,040 Speaker 1: Earl Thomas. He's easily been the best safety in the NFL. 852 00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:55,480 Speaker 1: I think, big, huge hitter for for safety covers well, 853 00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:59,040 Speaker 1: probably the best run defense safety in the NFL. And 854 00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:00,840 Speaker 1: I think may have been the best player on a 855 00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:03,520 Speaker 1: talented Brown's defense this year. See that's why you come 856 00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:06,960 Speaker 1: to Around the League. We're taping podcast on Christmas Eve, 857 00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:10,839 Speaker 1: and we're telling you how you can intelligently fill out 858 00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:13,080 Speaker 1: your Pro Bowl valot with t J. Ward. You guys 859 00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:15,040 Speaker 1: convinced me I should have had I did have him on, 860 00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:18,120 Speaker 1: but basically because you guys convinced me and you were right. 861 00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:20,600 Speaker 1: And I also want to just say before we go 862 00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:23,759 Speaker 1: to Keenan Lewis wherever you are, Saints cornerback, he was 863 00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:26,759 Speaker 1: very upset that we did not include him on our 864 00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:29,359 Speaker 1: Pro Bowl ballots. For some reason. He chose me and 865 00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:32,799 Speaker 1: Dan uh to tweet at and he wanted to know 866 00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:34,560 Speaker 1: why he was not on there, and I looked a 867 00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:37,680 Speaker 1: little deeper into it. You know, Keenan Lewis is a 868 00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:41,120 Speaker 1: borderline pro bowler. He he belongs there. I wouldn't argue 869 00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:43,919 Speaker 1: with it. He maybe belongs over some some guys I had, 870 00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:48,080 Speaker 1: so I I I'm sorry. Vote for Keenan Lewis. I 871 00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:51,160 Speaker 1: think Keenan Lewis deserves some votes. Yeah, he's he should 872 00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:54,080 Speaker 1: be in the conversation. Anyone that cares enough to anyone 873 00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:57,160 Speaker 1: that tweets at us, and he's in the conversation. Break 874 00:43:57,239 --> 00:44:00,680 Speaker 1: that for the idiot fan boys. Right. If Eve Gregory 875 00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:03,120 Speaker 1: of the Patriots tweeted at me, I'd be like, put 876 00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:05,279 Speaker 1: him in the Pro Bowl. Anyone that just wants to 877 00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:07,720 Speaker 1: give us some attention, Anyone that wants to give us awards. 878 00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:10,440 Speaker 1: Thank you iTunes for making us UH the best of 879 00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:16,960 Speaker 1: two thousand thirteen awards or whatever. Thank you for listening smooth, 880 00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:23,040 Speaker 1: Thank you for listening everyone and making this UH pre 881 00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:25,200 Speaker 1: Christmas season about as fun as can be. We'll be 882 00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:30,480 Speaker 1: back on Friday previewing all the week seventeens games. The 883 00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:33,680 Speaker 1: gold standard will be there, Will you not, certainly will. 884 00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:37,279 Speaker 1: We'll be excited. In the meantime, hope everyone has a 885 00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:42,080 Speaker 1: great Christmas for the gold Standard, Mark Sessler, Chris Wesley, 886 00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:45,680 Speaker 1: Dan Handers, and Kevin Patrick in absentia, Mary, Christmas to 887 00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:48,200 Speaker 1: them as well. I'm Greg Rosenthal. We'll talk to you, 888 00:44:48,239 --> 00:45:02,959 Speaker 1: Frank