1 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:07,560 Speaker 1: Welcome into Lounge presented by DraftKings. I'm Ryan Mink here 2 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:12,560 Speaker 1: with Garrett Downing, and the news of coaching hirings continues 3 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 1: to chug along. Garrett, the Ravens and Jesse Minter continue 4 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:20,160 Speaker 1: to build out the staff here with assistants on both 5 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 1: sides of the ball. So we're going to break down 6 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 1: the most recent reports of jesse Mentor's additions as well 7 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 1: as talk about kind of the big picture look at 8 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:31,159 Speaker 1: this new coaching staff and what the culture will be 9 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:34,159 Speaker 1: and what they'll bring here to Baltimore as the Ravens 10 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 1: move into the next era of football post John Harball. So, Garrett, 11 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:43,200 Speaker 1: there's been reports of three recent hirings over the past 12 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 1: couple of days. That's running backs coach Eddie Faulkner, who 13 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:52,479 Speaker 1: was previously with the Pittsburgh Steelers, senior offensive assistant Joe Lombardi, 14 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 1: and today the most recent reports are about Miles Taylor, 15 00:00:57,440 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 1: who will join the Ravens, reportedly as a defensive backs coach. 16 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 1: Let's start with Joe Lombardi. This is a big time 17 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 1: higher you know, former offensive coordinator at three different locations, 18 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:13,039 Speaker 1: including most recently with the Denver Broncos. 19 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:14,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, Joe Lombardi. 20 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 3: He's got a long track record in the NFL as 21 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:20,120 Speaker 3: a proven offensive coach, and you're just coaching in the 22 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 3: AFT Championship game and he got fired a couple of 23 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:27,760 Speaker 3: days after the game. Tough game for the Broncos, but 24 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 3: also a really difficult assignment. Your started quarterback goes down 25 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:34,119 Speaker 3: the week before, yeah, and you're playing in a blizzard 26 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 3: basically in that game. And so they made the change there, 27 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 3: ultimately promoted Davis Webb to the offensive coordinator role. Davis 28 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 3: web interviewed a lot of different places as a head 29 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:44,119 Speaker 3: coach candidate, including here. 30 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:46,479 Speaker 1: You have to think that that was part of it, right, 31 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 1: that they didn't want to lose Davis web. 32 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 3: That's what it seems like, that that they wanted to 33 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 3: keep Davis web which again they ultimately promoted him to 34 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 3: offensive coordinator, and he had a lot of interests from 35 00:01:55,760 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 3: a head coach and coordinator standpoint around the NFL. So, look, 36 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 3: Lombardi was the offensive coordinator on the top seed in 37 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:09,080 Speaker 3: the AFC this year, and now now he wasn't the 38 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 3: play caller. Sean Payton's a play caller in Denver. Similar 39 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 3: conversations to what we've had with Declan Doyle, the Ravens 40 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 3: new offensive coordinator. He wasn't the play caller in Chicago. 41 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 3: Ben Johnson was. But it goes without saying that the 42 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:24,960 Speaker 3: offensive coordinator play calling duties or not. Is it an 43 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:27,959 Speaker 3: incredibly important job for a coach. 44 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:33,079 Speaker 1: And so when Joe Lombardi has been a play caller previously, 45 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 1: that's a point in his career. He was a play 46 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 1: caller with the Los Angeles Chargers. He worked back on 47 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 1: the staff of the defensive Brandon Stanley's staff exactly, and 48 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:46,639 Speaker 1: so Lombardi call plays. Then he also was a play 49 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:48,640 Speaker 1: caller back with the Detroit Lions when he was an 50 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 1: offensive coordinator there. So this is a long time Sean 51 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:54,639 Speaker 1: Payton kind of top lieutenant. Yeah, Joe Lombardi has been 52 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:57,079 Speaker 1: and Sean Payton, as we've talked about previously, is one 53 00:02:57,120 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 1: of the top offensive mines in the game. And so 54 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 1: you know, to your point of well, he wasn't a 55 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 1: play caller. You know, when when you're learning, you can't 56 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:10,079 Speaker 1: have it both ways. Sometimes in the case of Declan 57 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 1: Doyle and in the case of Joe Lombardi, like when 58 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 1: you're learning from some of the top guys in the league, 59 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 1: those top guys usually want to call the place right, 60 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:23,119 Speaker 1: and so it's a positive that you're learning from them. Okay, yes, 61 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:25,399 Speaker 1: you didn't have play calling experience, but like I'll take 62 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 1: the experience that you're getting from those guys learning. 63 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. 64 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 3: Absolutely, And the other benefit too with Lombardi, I mean, 65 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 3: first of all, on the play calling thing, he's an, 66 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 3: according to reports, a senior off sense of assistant here 67 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 3: Decklan Doyle is gonna be go off as coordinator play caller. 68 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 3: So it's kind of a moot point, but. 69 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 1: I think I think that, yeah, I think that it 70 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 1: helps that Lombardi has play calling experience that you know, 71 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 1: whatever lessons Declin can take from that, you know he can. 72 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 1: There's it's just good to have somebody with more with 73 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 1: experience in the room. If Declan has questions or one 74 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 1: additional perspective on play calling. 75 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 3: Well they also those two guys have coached together before exactly, 76 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 3: like so they were together in Denver. 77 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 1: Joe Lombardi was Declan's boss in Denver and kind of 78 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:17,360 Speaker 1: also previous to that in New Orleans and when Joe 79 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:21,479 Speaker 1: Lombardi was a quarterbacks coach then and Declan was just 80 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 1: starting out as an offensive assistant and so now you 81 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 1: now I've kind of seen this in multiple cases. Jesse Mintter, right, 82 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 1: John Harball is Jesse Minter's boss, and now Jess Minser's 83 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:35,839 Speaker 1: the boss and in the in the big office, and 84 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:39,039 Speaker 1: so the roles of reverse and now Declan will be 85 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:43,159 Speaker 1: over top of Joe Lombardi. But a value I think, 86 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:48,360 Speaker 1: just valuable experience in multiple fronts, a really strong offensive mine. 87 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 1: And to get a three time offensive coordinator who, by 88 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 1: the way, was the offensive coordinator of one of the 89 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:55,919 Speaker 1: top offenses in the league this past year as a 90 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:59,720 Speaker 1: senior assistant, you know that's that's a really nice hire, 91 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:00,479 Speaker 1: I think, yeah. 92 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 3: And I just I like the fact that those two guys, 93 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 3: Lombardy and Doyle have grown up together in the league 94 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:08,559 Speaker 3: and work together for a long time. So they're speaking 95 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:11,160 Speaker 3: the same language, they see things the same way, they've 96 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 3: learned from the same head coach and Sean Payton. So 97 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 3: all of those things I think are positive when you're 98 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:17,920 Speaker 3: building out the offensive staff. 99 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 1: Somebody that helps disseminate the message, you know of Declan 100 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 1: Doyle's message throughout the rest of the offense and can 101 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 1: kind of help reverberate that well. 102 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 3: And the other thing too, Like we talked about this 103 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 3: in the previous podcasts this week with Declan Doyle. Younger guy, 104 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 3: so everyone talks he's twenty nine years old and never 105 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 3: been a play caller, all those questions. Okay, so that's 106 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 3: a big thing that people are going to talk about. Well, 107 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 3: you have this guy that you can lean on who's 108 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:44,280 Speaker 3: been a play caller, as we talked about in Lombardi, 109 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 3: and has been an offensive coordinator many different times in 110 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 3: the league. And so it's like, if you're a younger 111 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:53,279 Speaker 3: guy stepping into this new role, how can you best 112 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 3: support yourself in general, Well, surround yourself with other guys 113 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:00,160 Speaker 3: that speak the same language, see things the same way, 114 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 3: have experience that you can lean on. And that's what 115 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 3: Jesse Mencher and Declan Doyle a doing here on the 116 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 3: offensive side of the ball. 117 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:09,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think it's a really strong higher. Another 118 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 1: really nice move I think is the addition of running 119 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:16,840 Speaker 1: backs coach Eddie Faulkner. Reportedly, you know, he spent the 120 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 1: last seven season was seasons with the Pittsburgh Steelers, very 121 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 1: highly respected coach there. You just see the response from 122 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 1: Steelers reporters saying, man, this dude was you know, one 123 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 1: of the best, and the Steelers running backs really a 124 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 1: lot of their offense in recent years has run through 125 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 1: the running backs, and you go back and look at 126 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 1: a Najie Harris, you know, carried it for a while. 127 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 1: Then Jalen Warren, an undrafted guy, really kind of burst 128 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 1: on the scene and has been great for them, got 129 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 1: a contract extension. And then even last year, Kenneth Gainwell 130 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 1: in his first year with the Steelers, he was voted 131 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 1: the team MVP the end of the year. So that's 132 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 1: pretty remarkable that that speaks to you you had a 133 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 1: pretty darn good coach. If you were able to come 134 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 1: in as a free agent, you're the back number two 135 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 1: running back and have instant success in your vote to 136 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 1: the team MVP you got, you've had some good coaching. Yeah, 137 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 1: and so I think that he's done a tremendous job 138 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 1: with Pittsburgh's running backs. That gave the Ravens problem. 139 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 2: The years, well over the years and this year. 140 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, like look at the two games so the Ravens 141 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 3: played against the Steelers this year. 142 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 1: Gainwell was a game. 143 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 3: Will was a problem for them. They had a hard 144 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 3: time stopping him, and that was I'm not going to 145 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:34,679 Speaker 3: you know, it's. 146 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 2: Not like it was solely the work of you know. 147 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:42,559 Speaker 3: Faulkner, but obviously he had an imperative piece in helping 148 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 3: develop him and put him in the right positions. 149 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 2: Also, too, is he did have a stint as the. 150 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 3: Offensive coordinator actually in Pittsburgh after Matt Canada was fired. 151 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 3: He was the inter run back in twenty twenty three, 152 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 3: and so he, you know, so another guy who has 153 00:07:56,280 --> 00:08:00,120 Speaker 3: had who has sat in the offensive coordinator chair on 154 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 3: this offense. So he's seen it from multiple different angles 155 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 3: and again, highly respected coach track record of working with 156 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 3: and developing running backs for a team. I think that 157 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 3: like when you look at to your point, you look 158 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 3: at the way the Steelers have operated offensively for much 159 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 3: of the last decade, they've been a running back heavy 160 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 3: team and game planning and strategy identity, and Faulkner has 161 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 3: been a really important piece of that. So I think 162 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:33,839 Speaker 3: it's just a it's a quality hire to get somebody 163 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 3: in here that knows this division, knows the way that 164 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 3: you want to have running backs play the game. And 165 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 3: I think he's going to be a great fit with 166 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:39,679 Speaker 3: Derreck Henry and. 167 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 1: I think Jesse Minner and the Ravens continue to do 168 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:47,960 Speaker 1: a good job of evaluating the coaching landscape and pouncing right. 169 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 1: I mean, Willie Taggert, who spent the past three seasons 170 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 1: here as the Ravens running backs coach, followed John Harball 171 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 1: to New York, which was no surprise. He's essentially a 172 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 1: hardball Yeah, so close, extremely close, So that was kind 173 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 1: of expected. And then Mike McCarthy is hired as the 174 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:09,960 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Steelers head coach, and he brought along with him 175 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:13,080 Speaker 1: a former coach of his from Dallas to be the 176 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 1: new running backs coach. And now it's like, oh, okay, 177 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 1: Eddie Faulkner, who's been one of the best in the league, 178 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 1: is suddenly a free agent. Yep, let's pounce on that, right. 179 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:26,439 Speaker 1: Similar situation with Atlanta and Dwyane Leadford and the Ravens 180 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 1: getting one of the top offensive line coaches, you know, 181 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:31,840 Speaker 1: for offensive line that was really good last year, very 182 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:35,080 Speaker 1: good running game, highly respected coach, but all of a sudden, 183 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 1: you know, he's a free agent. Where he Morris is out, 184 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 1: He's a free agent, and the Ravens pounced on that. 185 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:42,839 Speaker 1: So I think they're doing a really good job of, 186 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 1: you know, going being aggressive and getting these guys who 187 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 1: who have hit the market, and quite frankly like that 188 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 1: was kind of one of the questions out there about 189 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 1: Jesse Minter is what kind of staff will he be 190 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 1: able to build because you know, he's not a long 191 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 1: time coach with like these deep, deep roots around the 192 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 1: game like uh, you know, like a like John Harbaugh 193 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 1: who has been like John Harball for sure, like a 194 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy, right, like these guys who have these long 195 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 1: resumes and roots throughout the league. You know, that's not 196 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 1: the case necessarily for Jesse Mintter went to the college 197 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 1: you know, college route for part of it, and and 198 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 1: you see that as he's that's paid off. Yeah, Mike 199 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 1: Mickens for example, you know a college defensive coach who 200 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:32,720 Speaker 1: I think is going to do great here. So I 201 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:35,199 Speaker 1: just like that it's a little bit of this and that, 202 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 1: and the Ravens are are they're not sett in one 203 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 1: way of hiring and like exactly the route that they're 204 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:44,440 Speaker 1: looking for from their coaches, but taking the best of 205 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:44,959 Speaker 1: what's out there. 206 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 2: Look, I've said this before. 207 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 3: I think that I applaud Mentor's ability to look across 208 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:52,319 Speaker 3: the board for coaches college level problem. 209 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:54,600 Speaker 1: And like and recruit some of the best, right, Like 210 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:58,720 Speaker 1: those coaches Ledford didn't have a connection to him, you know, 211 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 1: to Jesse Mentor and uh, you know, Faulkner didn't have 212 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:06,200 Speaker 1: a connection to Jesse Minter at all, but yet he 213 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 1: was able to convince him to come be coaches with 214 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 1: the Ravens. Yeah, you know what I mean. And so 215 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 1: I think that that speaks to Jesse and kind of 216 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 1: his recruiting power. Hey, maybe he's tapping into. 217 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:19,199 Speaker 3: The college the college recruiting exactly, and just even coordinators too, 218 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 3: Like you look at the coordinators Declan Doyle right, rising 219 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 3: offensive star, then on the defensive side, reportedly Anthony Weaver 220 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 3: as a defensive coordinator. 221 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:32,200 Speaker 1: Like they didn't overlap here. But obviously there's a strong 222 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 1: Baltimore connection of course with Anthony Weaver. But yes, not 223 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:38,679 Speaker 1: Jesse Minter connection necessarily, right, And I think these other 224 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:41,560 Speaker 1: coaches recognize that Jesse Mintz is just a really good 225 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 1: head coach. And you also factor in the other things 226 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 1: that make the Ravens a desirable place to come coach 227 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:50,959 Speaker 1: for Faulkner, right, Derek, Okay, I get to go work 228 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:53,200 Speaker 1: with Derreck Henry and a team that's going to continue 229 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 1: run to run the ball a lot that's also run 230 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 1: through you know, the running game. Their offense is kind 231 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:00,959 Speaker 1: of predicated on a running the ball, sure, yeah, as 232 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 1: well as the culture and the winning and all that 233 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:07,439 Speaker 1: stuff right and down the line. Right, the Ravens get 234 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 1: to work with Lamar Jackson, get to work with these people, 235 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:11,840 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? And so I think the 236 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 1: Ravens and just the equity that they've built up as 237 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:17,679 Speaker 1: an organization certainly helps with recruiting. But none of these 238 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 1: coaches would be coming here if they didn't believe in 239 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 1: Jesse Minter. 240 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'm with you on that. 241 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 3: So the Ravens building out this the coaching staff and 242 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 3: the secondary here. They already added Mike Mickens, who you 243 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:29,720 Speaker 3: mentioned from Notre Dame as a defensive backs coach and 244 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 3: passing game coordinator. Now Miles Taylor is reportedly the assistant 245 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:37,840 Speaker 3: defensive backs coach according to Jeff Reebeck, and then also 246 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 3: a PJ. Volker, the former defensive coordinator at Navy. Brian 247 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:44,079 Speaker 3: Wacker from the Baltimore Sun said that he will be 248 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 3: the safeties coach for Baltimore. So really hiring some talented 249 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:51,960 Speaker 3: coaches to work with the guys in the secondary's and 250 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 3: Mintor has college kind of interesting. Yeah, Mintor has that 251 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 3: experience too. He grew up here in this system working 252 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 3: with the second as well. So there's gonna be a 253 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 3: lot of focus on that area of this team. Like 254 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 3: the Ravens have poured a lot of resources into their 255 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 3: secondary in recent years, both in terms of paying players 256 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 3: and drafting them highly. Ay Wagan's first round pick, Kyle Hamilton, 257 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 3: first round pick, Marlon Humphrey, first round pick, big contract 258 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:19,559 Speaker 3: for Kyle, big contract for Marlin. Like, there's a lot 259 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 3: of a lot of investment in the secondary Malc Guy 260 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:26,200 Speaker 3: Sarks first round pick. Yeah, and so it wasn't it 261 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:28,840 Speaker 3: hasn't been good enough the last two years as a whole, 262 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:29,439 Speaker 3: and the. 263 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:31,840 Speaker 1: Ravens won the last in the NFL in the yards allowed. 264 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 3: Like, that's just not what you expect when you consider 265 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:37,199 Speaker 3: the investment that the Ravens have made in that unit, 266 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:39,679 Speaker 3: and so getting that group to play at a high 267 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:44,320 Speaker 3: level is I don't know, priority one, A, one B 268 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 3: when it comes to looking at this defensive system. 269 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:50,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, I totally agree with that, and yeah, getting more 270 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:52,840 Speaker 1: out of that unit for sure, And that's you know 271 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:55,200 Speaker 1: pass rush is part of that. The Ravens pass rush 272 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 1: certainly this past season was not. 273 00:13:56,720 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 2: That's the one A one B piece of past rushes 274 00:13:59,640 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 2: the other. 275 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I mean if he if the Ravens had 276 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 1: a better stronger pass rush last year, I think it 277 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 1: would have helped out the secondary. Absolutely, But too many 278 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 1: fourth quarter bloom leads, big passing plays the low in 279 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:13,640 Speaker 1: the secondary, Like this unit has too much talent to 280 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 1: be playing at that level. And so I think that 281 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:21,040 Speaker 1: the Ravens have assembled a really strong staff here that 282 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 1: can help turn things around in their secondary. And I 283 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 1: did say, you know, it's all college. Miles Taylor, it's 284 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 1: kind of interesting. You know, he had agreed to be 285 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 1: then the Nebraska safeties coach earlier this year in January. 286 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 1: He agreed to that, and then Jesse Minner got the job, 287 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 1: and he was like, you know, you get that offer 288 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 1: to stay in the NFL. Yeah, that's pretty darn and luring. 289 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 1: So I really like all three of these reported assistant hires. 290 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 1: Miles Taylor, we got a Lombardi chasing Lombardi trophy, we 291 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 1: got let's go yeah, stole a Steeler, just just yoinked them, 292 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 1: yoinked them from the Insers. 293 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 3: So yeah, I like, you know, for those reasons. Also 294 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 3: heia for you right there, Yeah, exactly. So we're gonna 295 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 3: take a quick break. We come back, we'll dive into 296 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 3: some of the other questions remaining as the Ravens fell out, 297 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 3: this coaching staff and the impact this group is going 298 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 3: to have here in Baltimore. You're listening to the Lounge podcast. 299 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 3: We're coming to from the Sea Geeks too. We want 300 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 3: to mention our partners with Draft Kings Sportsbook. They are 301 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 3: an official sports betting partner of the Baltimore Ravens DraftKings Sportsbook. 302 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 3: The Crown is yours. So the work is not totally 303 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 3: done yet. On the coaching hiring front. The Ravens still 304 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 3: need to hire a special teams coordinator. Now one position 305 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 3: that we don't know yet who's going to end up 306 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 3: in this role as quarterbacks coach, obviously a massive position 307 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 3: working with quarterback Lamar Jackson. Jordan Schultz has reported that 308 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 3: the Ravens are not going to keep the quarterbacks coach 309 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 3: in the last three years, Tem Martin, who's been here 310 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 3: since twenty twenty one. He's been Lamar's quarterbacks coach for 311 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 3: the last three seasons, So that's a big change. 312 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 2: Those two have. 313 00:15:55,880 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 3: Been really close and connected. T obviously has been instrumental 314 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 3: in Lamar's development during that time, and so you know, 315 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 3: he reported the interview for an offensive coordinator job this offseason. 316 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 3: He also has worked at the college game, so he 317 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 3: may have opportunities at the college level at the pro level, 318 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 3: depending on what he wants to do. But yeah, Jordan 319 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 3: Schultz reporter that the Ravens are not going to keep 320 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 3: tem Martin in that role and look elsewhere to fill 321 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 3: that position, and it's going to be a massive higher 322 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 3: for Minter. 323 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, te is a really good coach. Really enjoyed him 324 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 1: being here in Baltimore. But you know, this is a 325 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 1: new offensive staff really from kind of the ground up. 326 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 1: This is Declan Doyle and Jesse Minner assembling a new staff. 327 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 1: So it's not entirely surprising that you know, in such 328 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 1: a critical position as quarterbacks coach, that they want their 329 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 1: own guy, and so remains to be seen who that is. 330 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 1: But like you said, this is a very big hire. 331 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 1: And when you look down the list of positions that 332 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 1: are still open for the Ravens, it's at the top 333 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 1: of the list. I mean, you have quarterbacks coaches that 334 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 1: are getting head coaching interviews this cycle, right, and so 335 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:11,199 Speaker 1: like it's widely recognized how important that job is and 336 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:14,919 Speaker 1: the responsibilities there, especially when you have, you know, a 337 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:19,200 Speaker 1: player like Lamar Jackson. I mean, to one degree, Lamar's great. Yeah, 338 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 1: just I don't know if it's you know, on his own, right, 339 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 1: It's not like he's like a rookie quarterback or second 340 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 1: year quarterback who is very early in the stages of 341 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 1: his development. But of course Lamar Jackson can still be 342 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 1: even better and continue to grow as a player as well. 343 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:37,560 Speaker 1: And so whoever the next quarterbacks coach is will be 344 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 1: responsible for that as well as developing a backup. You know, 345 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 1: it remains to be seen who exactly will be the 346 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 1: number two quarterback here. 347 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:45,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, quarterbacks coach. 348 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:48,399 Speaker 3: Just at a big picture level, when you look around league, 349 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:51,719 Speaker 3: it's kind of the trajectory that if you're a really 350 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:54,639 Speaker 3: good quarterbacks coach, you can get interviews in consideration for 351 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 3: offensive coordinator jobs. This year that process kind of skipped 352 00:17:57,520 --> 00:18:00,200 Speaker 3: a step, with guys like Davis Webb getting consideration. 353 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 1: Passing game coordinators, not even quarterbacks coach. 354 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:04,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, passing game coordinator. 355 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 3: Now this you go from QB's coach to passing game coordinator, 356 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:09,640 Speaker 3: QB's coach to offensive cordnator and maybe a QB's coach 357 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:12,640 Speaker 3: to head coach. But but like I think that that's 358 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 3: kind of the path and the trajectory that we often 359 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 3: see with that position. So I would think that just 360 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 3: like we said with head coach, just like we said 361 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:24,960 Speaker 3: with offensive coordinator, and now with quarterbacks coach, it is 362 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:27,880 Speaker 3: going to be a highly sought after position to come 363 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:32,399 Speaker 3: here and work on this staff, with this with with 364 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 3: Lamar Jackson and the rest of the support around it. 365 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 3: So it's gonna be a big hire. We'll see what 366 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:39,399 Speaker 3: Mentor and the Ravens ultimately decide to do. 367 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:41,920 Speaker 1: The Ravens have some other positions they still need to fill. 368 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 1: Wide receivers coach, tight ends coach George Gottsee left for 369 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 1: Georgia tech Ye, outside linebackers coach Matt Robinson, who worked 370 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:55,040 Speaker 1: with that group last year. Was Outside linebackers coach. Chuck 371 00:18:55,359 --> 00:19:00,320 Speaker 1: Smith was the pass rush coach. Matt Robinson departed for 372 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 1: New York, followed John Harball up there, and then the 373 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:05,359 Speaker 1: Ravens are still looking for their defensive line coach. 374 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 3: Right and so and Dennis Johnson also went up to 375 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 3: New York with John Harbaugh. He worked with the defensive 376 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:15,399 Speaker 3: line here last year. You wonder about if there are 377 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:18,359 Speaker 3: going to be any holdover coaches. Tyler Santucci, for example, 378 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:21,399 Speaker 3: he's a linebacker's coach who's staying here as the inside 379 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:24,399 Speaker 3: linebacker's coach was here last year. Is there anybody else 380 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:25,920 Speaker 3: from the staff who's going to be here? 381 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 1: Joe Cullen interviewed for the defensive coordinator job. He's been 382 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:32,120 Speaker 1: a defensive line coach for a long time. He's been 383 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 1: in that role with the Chiefs. It would have to 384 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 1: be a promotion, presumably. Yeah. You know, he reportedly interviewed 385 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:41,399 Speaker 1: here for the for the defense defenseive coordinator job. But 386 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 1: is there any way they give him an elevated kind 387 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:47,200 Speaker 1: of role here to also coach the defense. I don't know. Yeah, 388 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 1: I'm just saying that that's an interesting name. 389 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 2: Yeah. 390 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 3: So, again, the news on that stuff continues to roll out, 391 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 3: and we'll break it down as that happens. The other 392 00:19:57,359 --> 00:20:00,719 Speaker 3: thing too this week is the Browns introduced the newest 393 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 3: member of their U of the of the coaching staff, 394 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:07,160 Speaker 3: which is of course Todd Munkin uh their new head coach. 395 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:10,240 Speaker 3: And it's been a shake up in the AFC North 396 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 3: with Jesse Manter coming here, Todd Munkin uh goes to Cleveland. 397 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:17,879 Speaker 3: You have Mike McCarthy now in Pittsburgh. And Monkins presser 398 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:22,120 Speaker 3: was classic Monkin. I mean, uh, the crew in Cleveland 399 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:22,760 Speaker 3: is going to learn. 400 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:23,400 Speaker 2: You need to have the. 401 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 3: Five second delay you need to have. You need to 402 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:28,879 Speaker 3: have the bleep button ready for Monkin press conference. You 403 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:30,920 Speaker 3: gotta be hovering over it like. 404 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 1: You know when you're taught to drive. You got the 405 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 1: foot over the head. You're ready at any time you need. 406 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:39,879 Speaker 3: You need to be ready, quick on the trigger. Uh, 407 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:43,200 Speaker 3: with the bleep button for Monkin press conferences. And he 408 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 3: was true to form in the intro presser. And you know, look, 409 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:49,960 Speaker 3: I think I said it before, like happy for Monken 410 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:52,440 Speaker 3: to get the opportunity. He said that when he left college, 411 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:54,639 Speaker 3: he left college, he left Georgia. 412 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:57,320 Speaker 1: He left georgetting back to back championships as their offensive 413 00:20:57,320 --> 00:20:58,359 Speaker 1: coordinator to come here. 414 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 3: And he did that with hope that maybe this would 415 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:03,480 Speaker 3: ultimately turn into a head coaching opportunity. 416 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:06,439 Speaker 2: Yea, And he helped. 417 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 3: Put together the best three year stretch of offensive football 418 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:11,359 Speaker 3: we've probably ever seen here in Baltimore. That twenty twenty 419 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:13,119 Speaker 3: four season was one of. 420 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 1: The probably I think it is, Yeah, definitely is. 421 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 3: I mean it's it was in that twenty twenty four season. 422 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 3: You look at all the metrics on that that was 423 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 3: historically good season. And la More of course won the 424 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:26,160 Speaker 3: MVP in twenty twenty three. So twenty three and twenty four, 425 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 3: no doubt, that's the best two year stretch. Last year 426 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 3: took a step back, but a lot of injuries and 427 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:35,000 Speaker 3: other issues, you know, on the offensive side. So look, 428 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:37,679 Speaker 3: he gets his chance in Cleveland, and it's clear in 429 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:40,480 Speaker 3: everything that I've seen from him, from walking into the building, 430 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:42,879 Speaker 3: from the attire, from the press conference, like he's going 431 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:44,680 Speaker 3: to be himself. He's gonna be authentic. 432 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:48,880 Speaker 1: That's he's gonna get that is himself. Yeah, and yeah, 433 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:52,199 Speaker 1: I agree. I'm happy for him. And you know, you 434 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:55,640 Speaker 1: don't see a whole lot of coaches with his resume 435 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:59,199 Speaker 1: at his age these days getting head coaching roles, you know. 436 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:02,960 Speaker 1: And he was admitted like, yeah, he wondered if it 437 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 1: was ever gonna happen, and and so I'm happy for 438 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 1: him that he gets his shot. Obviously, Uh, you know, 439 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:14,440 Speaker 1: I wish him a lot of success in beating the Steelers. Yeah, 440 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 1: and that's really about it. 441 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:16,480 Speaker 2: That's where it ends. 442 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 1: He meet the Bengals too. Yeah that sounds good. But 443 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 1: but yeah, I think that he's gonna elevate that offense, 444 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:26,439 Speaker 1: but it's kind of a rebuild offensively. They have to 445 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 1: find their quarterback. He was pretty clear that he wants 446 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 1: to keep the defensive system, but it remains to be 447 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 1: seen if he keeps his defensive coordinator in Jim Schwartz, 448 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 1: who was passed up for the head coaching job, and Monkin, 449 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:41,639 Speaker 1: true to form, you know, was pretty straightforward about talking 450 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:43,920 Speaker 1: about that and saying I didn't take the job because 451 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:47,480 Speaker 1: of Jim Schwartz was here, and uh so it'll be 452 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:51,479 Speaker 1: interesting to see how that whole situation pans out. I 453 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 1: know a lot of people like questioning it. I think 454 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 1: Monk could. I think Monk's a good coach. I like, 455 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:57,640 Speaker 1: I like Tom Munkin, and I do think he's gonna 456 00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:00,439 Speaker 1: elevate that offense. Doesn't have as much talent work with 457 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:02,919 Speaker 1: as he did here. I think there's no you know, 458 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 1: bones about saying that it's no secret, but like Todd, 459 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 1: Munkin knows how to coach. 460 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 2: It'll be interesting to me. 461 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 3: The two most interesting things that as I look at it, 462 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:16,639 Speaker 3: one is first what happens with Jimmy Schwartz and that 463 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:19,640 Speaker 3: defense for sure, and it's. 464 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:20,879 Speaker 2: Based on all reports. 465 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 3: Tim Schwartz was less than pleased to find out he 466 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:27,760 Speaker 3: was passed over for the head coaching opportunity, and no 467 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:30,239 Speaker 3: idea if they're going to be able to convince him 468 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:30,520 Speaker 3: to stay. 469 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 1: They're keeping him locked him in his contract. Basically, the 470 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 1: Browns are not releasing him from that contract. So it's 471 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:38,880 Speaker 1: going to have to take something right for some other 472 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:39,679 Speaker 1: team to get him. 473 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 3: It seems like a rock at a hard place right now, 474 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 3: and who knows which side breaks first basically, And then 475 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:51,399 Speaker 3: on the quarterback front, like obviously they have shad Or 476 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 3: Sanders and who showed some promise as a rookie. Uh, 477 00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:58,879 Speaker 3: and then they have Deshaun Watson coming back from injury. 478 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:02,199 Speaker 3: Moncoin was noncommit and the press conference that he had 479 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:04,159 Speaker 3: about who the quarterback is going to be, but he 480 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:07,720 Speaker 3: talked about developing shit Or and he talked about developing 481 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:09,639 Speaker 3: Deshaun Watson getting him back to playing at a Pro 482 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:11,960 Speaker 3: Bowl level. So like, I don't know which direction they're 483 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:13,680 Speaker 3: going to go, or if it's gonna be somebody who's 484 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:15,920 Speaker 3: not on the roster currently, I think any of those. 485 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:17,959 Speaker 3: I mean, they saw Dylan Gabriel, who they drafted him 486 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:19,600 Speaker 3: the third round last year. I don't know who it's 487 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 3: ultimately going to be, but that's going to be. Like 488 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:24,200 Speaker 3: the most important decision for Monkin is who he ends 489 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 3: up picking as a quarterback and how quickly they're able. 490 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 1: To develop exactly. And you know, Monk has a pretty 491 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:35,440 Speaker 1: extensive track record of helping quarterbacks, Yeah, including Lamar Jackson. 492 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:40,680 Speaker 1: So yeah, it'll it'll be really interesting to see what 493 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 1: that tenure looks like in Cleveland. I think he's certainly 494 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:46,879 Speaker 1: there are a lot of questions when he was a 495 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:48,879 Speaker 1: decision because I think it surprised a lot of people. 496 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 1: Ultimately when there are reports from Tony Groci, a long 497 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 1: time Browns reporter, that they were leaning towards a young, 498 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:57,160 Speaker 1: offensive mind, and then you go with munkin, I think 499 00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 1: you caught a lot of people well by surprise. But 500 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,920 Speaker 1: I think he in air quotes, won the press conference, 501 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:08,439 Speaker 1: you know, and he like brings certainly a swagger to 502 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:12,400 Speaker 1: a franchise that has fallen on hard times. For many 503 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 1: many years. 504 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 3: Well, he has a unique style, yea, And I think that, Like, 505 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:19,480 Speaker 3: look when we sat down with him on the lounge 506 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:21,720 Speaker 3: last year around this time of the year, Like you 507 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:23,920 Speaker 3: come out of that and you just feel like, man 508 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:28,800 Speaker 3: Munckin is like an entertaining guy who knows football, is 509 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:32,560 Speaker 3: fun to talk to, has great stories and perspective, but 510 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 3: also has like the right approach about how to develop 511 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 3: an offense and a team, and well that work as 512 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 3: a head coach, Like we're gonna find out. But like 513 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:42,960 Speaker 3: he definitely is gonna He's gonna be himself. And you 514 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:46,280 Speaker 3: saw that in the press conference. And I think that 515 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:50,280 Speaker 3: those games, not that they needed anymore added juice to them, 516 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:53,400 Speaker 3: but it adds another layer to the equation. 517 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:56,200 Speaker 1: Bunkin versus mentors. How it's going to be builled. Yeah, right, 518 00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:59,920 Speaker 1: offensive guy versus defensive guy who wins those battles. That's 519 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:02,720 Speaker 1: that's gonna be a headline here for a little while. 520 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 3: And like every coach, like everybody, every coach, every player 521 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:09,639 Speaker 3: uses things as motivation. So I'm sure that Monkin is 522 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 3: going to use the chance to play face off with 523 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 3: the Ravens as a source of motivation. 524 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:19,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, absolutely I think he genuinely has positive feelings, 525 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:21,879 Speaker 1: you know, reflecting on his time here in Baltimore, was 526 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:26,160 Speaker 1: appreciative of the three years. And Monk's pretty clear that, like, yeah, 527 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:29,400 Speaker 1: you know, this is what happens in the coaching profession, 528 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 1: is you get to stay somewhere, you appreciate it, you 529 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:35,119 Speaker 1: enjoy it. Eventually you probably get fired, you move on 530 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:37,439 Speaker 1: to the next one. Yeah, So I don't think there's like, 531 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:41,120 Speaker 1: I don't think there's gonna be animosity going into those matchups. 532 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 3: He did make the point, you get to play these 533 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:43,960 Speaker 3: guys twice a year. 534 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 1: Yea, he said, he said it. I can't wait, Yeah, 535 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:49,840 Speaker 1: I can't wait, you know, when asked about playing AFC 536 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:51,760 Speaker 1: North teams, he said, I can't wait. 537 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:52,240 Speaker 2: Yeah. 538 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:54,639 Speaker 1: And so I think that he'll he'll be fired up 539 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:56,040 Speaker 1: and he'll want to stick it to the Ravens. So 540 00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:58,600 Speaker 1: he'll want to beat us for sure and put up 541 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:01,760 Speaker 1: some numbers against our defense. Absolutely he will. But like, 542 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:05,320 Speaker 1: I don't think there's really like deep seated animals. 543 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:09,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not like yeah, yeah, So that's a big 544 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:13,840 Speaker 3: shake up in the division obviously, and it'll be, uh, 545 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,080 Speaker 3: it'll be kind of fun to watch all of that 546 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:18,159 Speaker 3: play out is this is like a new era for 547 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 3: the AFC North. 548 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:19,600 Speaker 2: It really is. 549 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:23,520 Speaker 3: And a thing that I'm kind of curious about going 550 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:25,440 Speaker 3: back to the Ravens and the new coaching staff here 551 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:28,240 Speaker 3: is like all of this change is taking place, is 552 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:33,879 Speaker 3: like what changes big picture culture wise, team identity wise 553 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:35,920 Speaker 3: with the new staff that's here, Like all these teams 554 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:37,640 Speaker 3: are going through this, Like we're talking about it with 555 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 3: Monkin and you say, bring in a swagger. And you 556 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:42,440 Speaker 3: know in Pittsburgh that you got Micha McCarthy, who's the 557 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:45,320 Speaker 3: Pittsburgh guy who's coming back home and he's been this. 558 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:47,880 Speaker 2: Step coach, he's got the actor, he's got that all down. 559 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 3: And then here you have like this total change where 560 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:55,639 Speaker 3: you had one head coach of the last eighteen years. 561 00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 3: You bring back people that have familiarity obviously with the 562 00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:01,960 Speaker 3: program mentor being at the top of that list reportedly 563 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:04,639 Speaker 3: Anthony Weaver. But it's just all it's a lot of 564 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 3: new voices. There's not many holdovers, it seems from the 565 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:10,600 Speaker 3: previous coaching staff, and so there's a whole bunch of 566 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:13,280 Speaker 3: new voices in here. And I think it is going 567 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:16,119 Speaker 3: to feel I think it is going to feel very different. 568 00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:23,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know that it's going to feel that different. 569 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 1: I mean, I think that Jesse Mintter is he's certainly 570 00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:31,640 Speaker 1: a different person than John certainly is. But the culture 571 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:34,640 Speaker 1: I don't think changes all that much, you know. I mean, 572 00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 1: Jesse Minterer grew up in this culture and then in 573 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 1: the Jim Harball culture. He grew up in the Harball 574 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 1: culture yep, and in this building that extends beyond Harball, right, 575 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:49,160 Speaker 1: like it was the Ravens culture, and some of Jesse's 576 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:53,440 Speaker 1: most formative years were swimming in those waters. And so 577 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 1: I don't really think from a culture standpoint, it's going 578 00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 1: to feel all that different. I think there's definitely a 579 00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:06,000 Speaker 1: focus from Jesse on two things. One is that we're 580 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:08,560 Speaker 1: going to be a really tightly connected team because we're 581 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:10,400 Speaker 1: all going to communicate and there's gonna be like this 582 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:16,800 Speaker 1: collective like buy in of like just communication and real relationships. 583 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:20,920 Speaker 1: Yeah right, And that has definitely been something that he's 584 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:27,960 Speaker 1: stressed a lot. Is that, like connectivity. The other is 585 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:30,600 Speaker 1: and it's interesting, like when you talk about that, you're like, well, 586 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 1: what is what is that? Exactly? How tangible is that? 587 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:36,360 Speaker 1: And I actually go to a Mike McDonald quote that 588 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:38,680 Speaker 1: I saw from the Super Bowl week here that was 589 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:42,920 Speaker 1: like in his first year last year with the Seahawks 590 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:47,160 Speaker 1: like that, defensively, they weren't all necessarily like on the 591 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:50,040 Speaker 1: same page with the same vision and all that. Like 592 00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:51,880 Speaker 1: it was mid season when it kind of clicked for 593 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:55,920 Speaker 1: them that like Mike McDonald felt like, man, like everybody's 594 00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:58,520 Speaker 1: bought in, Like we're all kind of going in the 595 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:00,840 Speaker 1: same directions with the same expect and all that. And 596 00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:03,280 Speaker 1: then like it's hard to quantify and put your finger 597 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:07,000 Speaker 1: on exactly what that is, but I think it's real, 598 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:10,480 Speaker 1: and when you get to that point, it can really 599 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:14,560 Speaker 1: have a profound impact. And that's what Jesse milton Minster 600 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:19,440 Speaker 1: is trying to rebuild here, and I think that's real. 601 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:22,040 Speaker 1: Maybe that's what you're speaking to about, like how it's 602 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:25,480 Speaker 1: going to feel different. I'm not sure, but that's a 603 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:26,200 Speaker 1: focal point of this. 604 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:28,840 Speaker 3: You go back eighteen years when John Harball started here 605 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:30,960 Speaker 3: there and I wasn't here at the time, but based 606 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:33,960 Speaker 3: on everything I've heard and read, the feeling at that 607 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:36,280 Speaker 3: point was there was this massive divide between the offense 608 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 3: and the defense. 609 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 2: This was the defensive team the. 610 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:42,320 Speaker 3: Defense ran and the offense, but is basically along for 611 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:45,000 Speaker 3: the ride, and that when Hardball got here, he wanted 612 00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:47,440 Speaker 3: to change all that and he did things like, you know, 613 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:49,640 Speaker 3: board up the two lockers that Terrell Suggs and ray 614 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 3: Lewis had, you get one locker, and those types of 615 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:55,960 Speaker 3: things happened. And so I don't think that dynamic exists 616 00:30:55,960 --> 00:31:00,400 Speaker 3: on this team, but I think that the connectedness that 617 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:03,719 Speaker 3: he has referenced on multiple occasions and that you just 618 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:06,840 Speaker 3: talked through, that seems to be the area of focus, 619 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:11,160 Speaker 3: like basically bringing everybody together their offense, defense, having this 620 00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:14,360 Speaker 3: like open line of communication and connective tissue throughout the team, 621 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 3: and like, yeah, I don't know what does that really 622 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:23,600 Speaker 3: look like. It's hard to say, but I think that 623 00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 3: I've heard it enough times to say, that's clearly the 624 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:30,520 Speaker 3: focal point. That's clearly what you're working on. And so 625 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:35,120 Speaker 3: I'm buying that. I'm believing that, and that is going 626 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:38,479 Speaker 3: to be a huge priority for him in this coaching staff. 627 00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:42,280 Speaker 3: I think the other piece, and it seems like these 628 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:44,040 Speaker 3: have been the two words that have come out the 629 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:47,000 Speaker 3: most to me. It's like basically connected piece and then innovation. 630 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:49,520 Speaker 3: I think there's going to be innovation from the coaching staff. 631 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:52,840 Speaker 1: That's the second point that I wanted to make, is 632 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:56,840 Speaker 1: that definitely schematically, Yeah, I think the Ravens are taking 633 00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:59,480 Speaker 1: a step forward from where they have been. I think 634 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:02,680 Speaker 1: that defensively obviously, what Jesse is going to bring to 635 00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:05,640 Speaker 1: the table and then declan Doyle to me is a 636 00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:09,040 Speaker 1: big time like we're going to bet on the schematics 637 00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:12,600 Speaker 1: of this guy. That he's an offensive architect, as Jesse 638 00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:15,040 Speaker 1: referred to him as, and he's going to bring some 639 00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:19,560 Speaker 1: new innovative ideas here. And you know, you look around 640 00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:21,440 Speaker 1: the rest of the AFC North and you know it's 641 00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:24,640 Speaker 1: the Monkin offense. And you know, he brought along with 642 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:27,200 Speaker 1: him Travis Switzer, who is a run game coordinator here 643 00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:29,960 Speaker 1: to be his offensive coordinator. So it's like kind of 644 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:31,840 Speaker 1: a lot of the same you know what I mean 645 00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:34,240 Speaker 1: that he's going to bring to them. Now, it's not 646 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:37,000 Speaker 1: the same offense they ran previously, but like, you know 647 00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:37,880 Speaker 1: what that offense is. 648 00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:39,800 Speaker 2: Right in Cleveland, you're saying, yeah, exactly. 649 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:43,400 Speaker 1: And the Steelers haven't finalized as of right now they're 650 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:47,760 Speaker 1: offensive coordinator, but it sounds like they're going to settle 651 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:52,880 Speaker 1: on Brian and angelic Chio, who is the passing game 652 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:57,040 Speaker 1: coordinator and tight ends coach for the Minnesota Vikings and 653 00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:59,440 Speaker 1: has ties with Mike McCarthy going back to Green Bay. 654 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,720 Speaker 1: It like Mike McCarthy in assembling his staff is more 655 00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:05,240 Speaker 1: like getting the band together, you know what I mean, 656 00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:10,760 Speaker 1: and of like his former lieutenants. And so I think 657 00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:14,440 Speaker 1: that I applaud what Jesse Minter is doing from a 658 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:18,240 Speaker 1: let's bring in some of the sharpest minds to kind 659 00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:20,960 Speaker 1: of innovate the scheme here. We're gonna be together and 660 00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:22,400 Speaker 1: we're gonna have the most innovative scheme. 661 00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:24,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's kind of exciting. 662 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:27,320 Speaker 3: I bet these coaches they're gonna be in the lab 663 00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:29,240 Speaker 3: coming up with some cool stuff on both sides of 664 00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:31,160 Speaker 3: the ball. And that's fun as a fan to know that, 665 00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:36,239 Speaker 3: like you're gonna get this really cool innovation from an 666 00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:39,440 Speaker 3: offense from a defense, and that that's gonna be an 667 00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:44,120 Speaker 3: important piece of the equation. And look, the core foundation 668 00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:48,440 Speaker 3: of like good football that we've expected here for a 669 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:52,000 Speaker 3: long time, play hard run of the football, like fundamentals, 670 00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:55,400 Speaker 3: like that's not going away. It's not just like we're 671 00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:58,640 Speaker 3: sacrificing that in the name of cool plays on the chalkboard. 672 00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:01,720 Speaker 3: Like all of that stills, but the Ravens are also 673 00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:03,960 Speaker 3: going to try to push the envelope and what they're 674 00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:05,479 Speaker 3: doing schematically and how they innovate. 675 00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:08,359 Speaker 1: Yep, absolutely agree. Last thing for me, you brought up 676 00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:11,560 Speaker 1: this name three all Suggs. The Hall of Fame announcements 677 00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:13,960 Speaker 1: are expected to come out at NFL. They will come 678 00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:17,840 Speaker 1: out at the NFL Honors Thursday evening. Three All Suggs 679 00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:21,680 Speaker 1: and Marshall Yanda are among the finalists for that. It's 680 00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:24,600 Speaker 1: their second straight year being finalists. We'll see if they 681 00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:27,800 Speaker 1: get in. Fingers crossed that they do. Would be pretty 682 00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:30,560 Speaker 1: awesome to have a couple more Ravens in the Hall, 683 00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:33,480 Speaker 1: and so that is something that fans will want to 684 00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:34,000 Speaker 1: watch out for. 685 00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:34,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure. 686 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:37,080 Speaker 3: And I mean I think they're obviously both deserving. We're 687 00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:40,600 Speaker 3: biased in that, but it's a matter to me a 688 00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:43,080 Speaker 3: matter of when, not if, for both of them. I 689 00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:45,000 Speaker 3: thought at least one of them will get in as 690 00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:46,920 Speaker 3: a first ballot. Neither of them made it last year, 691 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:49,480 Speaker 3: so hoping at least one of them makes it this year. 692 00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:51,440 Speaker 3: But again, that announcement is going to come out at 693 00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:55,080 Speaker 3: NFL Honors Thursday night, so we'll see what happens on 694 00:34:55,120 --> 00:35:00,919 Speaker 3: that front. So super Bowl is this weekend, and yeah, 695 00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:06,560 Speaker 3: I'm rooting for a good game. Wow, I don't honestly 696 00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:12,200 Speaker 3: like I guess I want to see success raven it's 697 00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:12,840 Speaker 3: the head coach. 698 00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:13,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I like Mike. 699 00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:17,680 Speaker 3: What reason would I have to root for the Patriots? 700 00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:19,399 Speaker 2: I know you think that is that. 701 00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:24,480 Speaker 3: Gone from you? Your Patriots rivalry, the feelings of that. Look, 702 00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:26,120 Speaker 3: I like Mike a lot. I think it'd be great 703 00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:28,040 Speaker 3: for him to win a Super Bowl. So yeah, but 704 00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:30,000 Speaker 3: I just I just want to have they're in like 705 00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:34,080 Speaker 3: they're following kind of that similar blueprint of like defensive 706 00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:34,920 Speaker 3: young mastermind. 707 00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:37,720 Speaker 1: I want to see that blueprint succeed. 708 00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:39,880 Speaker 3: Sure, I want to. I want the Ravens to be 709 00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:42,560 Speaker 3: in the super Bowl. Yeah, yeah, no doubt so. 710 00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:44,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. So if they're not. 711 00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:46,680 Speaker 3: Blueprint is a guarantee of what's to come, then sure, 712 00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:48,839 Speaker 3: I'm on board with that. Yeah, we'll just say it's 713 00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:51,319 Speaker 3: a guarantee. Well, it's a guarantee. I hope that's the case. 714 00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:54,360 Speaker 3: So h enjoy watching the game this weekend. As always, 715 00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:55,960 Speaker 3: you can email us at the lounge at Ravens dot 716 00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:58,840 Speaker 3: NFL dot net. Thank you so much for listening and 717 00:35:58,840 --> 00:35:59,880 Speaker 3: we'll talk with you again soon.