Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast. Hey remember when Chris Wesley
Speaker 1: nate his pants? Welcome back to another edition lovely Around
Speaker 1: the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Hansas and I
Speaker 1: am joined by room filled with heroes teeming even Mark Sesler,
Speaker 1: Chris Westling and Greg Roseatal. What's up? Boys? Hey? Dan?
Speaker 1: There he is west back back in the chair. Feels
Speaker 1: so good. Hey, doing bod? I had a cough trop
Speaker 1: I'm trying to chew it up so I can so
Speaker 1: I can speak correctly. That's good. What do you? Um?
Speaker 1: We're obviously we're thrilled to have you first Sunday show
Speaker 1: of the season for west the first of many. We hope, Um,
Speaker 1: you want to tell the audience how you're doing, how
Speaker 1: everything's going well. It started out as a rough week.
Speaker 1: I started chemo on Monday, and uh I was sick
Speaker 1: for a couple of days, had my moss my voice
Speaker 1: again due to a couple of procedures, but got that
Speaker 1: fixed on Friday. Feeling better about the chemo the last
Speaker 1: few days, and uh, I think if I can start
Speaker 1: gaining weight and get used to the chemo, med's then
Speaker 1: uh then it's all. It's all on the downhillside. From
Speaker 1: now on, just scooting scooting downhill. I think you described
Speaker 1: yourself as having a Bill Clinton esque voice, which I
Speaker 1: think is, yeah, that's that's not a bad you know,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of you know, women out there that
Speaker 1: enjoyed that voice, as we learned throughout the Clinton administration.
Speaker 1: Al Right, well that's true. It's absolutely true. You have
Speaker 1: to take something from Bill Clinton. The voice is not bad.
Speaker 1: That's a fair point. Uh So West is with us
Speaker 1: here the This is our week five recap episode, the
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Speaker 1: got a lot of games to get to this the
Speaker 1: first proper bye week of the season. And the company
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Speaker 1: Russell Wilson taking the sack in a big spot. We're
Speaker 1: gonna talk about that game and so many more, but
Speaker 1: first we're gonna get to the best game of Week five,
Speaker 1: the game that was a rematch of one of the
Speaker 1: best games of the team playoffs, and this one was
Speaker 1: just as entertaining. The Green Bay Packers at the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 1: And it came down to Aaron Rodgers with the ball
Speaker 1: in his hands, and usually that works out pretty good
Speaker 1: for the Green Bay Packers. Checking down snap, Rogers throw's
Speaker 1: face corner the ends of the shower to touch stowf
Speaker 1: Dudante Adams got up pretty Touchdow catching the right corner
Speaker 1: of the young shone a ten yard touchdown throw from Rodgers,
Speaker 1: and it couldn't have been better. Wayne Larvey w t
Speaker 1: MJ Packers Radio Network. Rogers magic on display again. Aaron
Speaker 1: Rodgers marched the Packers seventy five yards and nine plays
Speaker 1: in just over a minute, cap by the game winning
Speaker 1: strike to Davante Adams, who was in the hospital at
Speaker 1: the head injury eight days earlier. Even more impressive than
Speaker 1: your stuff, West, What do you think about that? Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's some redemption for Davante Adams. Definitely. Actually don't even
Speaker 1: believe that. Um, you're you're the guy in the room
Speaker 1: with some hospital back stories. I thought would work you
Speaker 1: in here with you you know that, and you put
Speaker 1: up with a cold at one point earlier in the season.
Speaker 1: It was the little ce And this is how we
Speaker 1: won Best New Podcast of two thousand West one day
Speaker 1: when Aaron Rodgers uh is being inducted into the Hall
Speaker 1: of Fame, these will be the games we remember. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I go back to last season, the last time these
Speaker 1: two teams played, when he threaded that needle to Jared
Speaker 1: Cook on the sideline. It seems like, oh my, every
Speaker 1: time we see Aaron Rodgers play, now, something magical happens.
Speaker 1: He had a game winning drive against the Bengals a
Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago, and I didn't sleep last night.
Speaker 1: I spent the night watching the Packers. I am all
Speaker 1: in on this team. This is the whole night. This
Speaker 1: is their year. I'm convinced this is the Super Bowl winners.
Speaker 1: What makes them different this year than the last few
Speaker 1: years when they've fallen short. There's there's a mental toughness
Speaker 1: that they have already developed from overcoming injuries that not
Speaker 1: only not only the toughness, but has revealed the depth
Speaker 1: on both side of the ball. They lose Time Montgomery
Speaker 1: and bringing Aaron Jones and their running game gets better.
Speaker 1: And that is not a one game fluke. Aaron Jones
Speaker 1: is a better runner than Time Montgomery. It might not
Speaker 1: be a better player, but their running game works better
Speaker 1: with Aaron Jones. And the same thing happens on defense.
Speaker 1: They didn't plan to start King their second round rookie
Speaker 1: or to go to Josh Jones at safety and a
Speaker 1: superhero Mica hide Roll. These guys are playing because of
Speaker 1: injuries and they are different, difference making kind of talents
Speaker 1: and they're gonna get healthier as they go to I
Speaker 1: mean on the offensive line, they're still gonna get Bulaga back.
Speaker 1: Was did not the bac tr rather will be back.
Speaker 1: And not only that Aaron Jones Blayton playing well, but
Speaker 1: the ability to trust them to give him the ball
Speaker 1: on that last uh drive I think was a credit
Speaker 1: to Mike McCarthy and Aaron Rodgers whoever is calling the
Speaker 1: plays in that sort of situation. And Aaron Jones just
Speaker 1: sprint in outside was such a big play and I
Speaker 1: love the the wherewithal of Rogers to talk to Adams
Speaker 1: after the first in completion on the goal and go
Speaker 1: back to the exact same play again. And that was
Speaker 1: a very difficult catch. It's a great throw, but that's
Speaker 1: a very difficult catch that Hava's makes to beat the
Speaker 1: beat the catch down in the newsroom, Troy Hickman, the
Speaker 1: color commentatory getting crushed by various analysts. I mean, myself,
Speaker 1: include to anyone for for kind of saying, oh, Dallas
Speaker 1: scored that final touchdown of their's too quickly, right when
Speaker 1: they threw the ball beforehand. Yet they scored too quickly,
Speaker 1: and yet in a way you know, because he's watched
Speaker 1: Darren Rodgers entire crew, he was exactly right. It was
Speaker 1: anyone surprised to see the Packers just marched down the
Speaker 1: field the way they've done, No, because we've seen this
Speaker 1: script play out and five other times, and I guess
Speaker 1: we should be surprised that this guy, Aaron J. Jones
Speaker 1: is now emerged as a potential real player in this offense.
Speaker 1: But that's the way the running of back position works.
Speaker 1: It seems a lot in the NFL. The death chart
Speaker 1: goes very deep guys get hurt and sometimes someone kind
Speaker 1: of emerges, and this is that feels like the final
Speaker 1: piece of this offense with the offensive line getting healthy
Speaker 1: and if you have a real option back there nothing
Speaker 1: that's time on coomery. But I didn't like. I don't
Speaker 1: like a number eighty eight lineing up back there anyway,
Speaker 1: give me a nice thirty whatever. There's always a little strange,
Speaker 1: like something the high school team would pull, except it
Speaker 1: was working to something. I think you'll have a huge role,
Speaker 1: and I think he played well throughout the first three
Speaker 1: weeks of this season. He just doesn't need to be
Speaker 1: the running back that has more touches per snap than
Speaker 1: any running back in the league. Would be great. If
Speaker 1: he's handling the duties with Aaron Jones, they're They're so
Speaker 1: much better that way. That's what I'm saying that Aaron
Speaker 1: Jones is too good. He has too much juice, too
Speaker 1: much obvious playmaking ability to take out of the mix.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying Time Montgomery will be usurped, but Aaron
Speaker 1: Jones will stay in as a complimentaryen Bay with three
Speaker 1: players named Aaron with carries today, let's diversify the roster
Speaker 1: names please and on the Cowboys side. Two and three. Now,
Speaker 1: that matches their lost total for all of last season.
Speaker 1: But I'm not greg. I'm not ready to panic about
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. This is a one of the games of
Speaker 1: the season, and I thought they played on balance well
Speaker 1: and they had the lead late and Zeke Elliott looked
Speaker 1: like Zeke Elliott in this game. Are you worried about
Speaker 1: them two and three here? Interesting depends what the goal is.
Speaker 1: I mean, getting a buy is going to be difficult.
Speaker 1: You're already two games back in the division, so that's
Speaker 1: a whole you gotta climb out of the offensive line
Speaker 1: is good, but not as dominant, and you don't have
Speaker 1: a much of an explosive element to the passing game.
Speaker 1: So I think they're okay. But it's not like you
Speaker 1: look at the defense and think, Okay, this is a
Speaker 1: defense that's gonna get a ton of stops. You need
Speaker 1: the offense to be special and and today was a
Speaker 1: step maybe in that direction. They looked like two thousand sixteen.
Speaker 1: Today the defense new Zeke was coming and over and
Speaker 1: over and over again. On third and one and fourth
Speaker 1: and one. They could not stop Ezekiel Elliott. They kept
Speaker 1: the Packers offense off the field for most of the
Speaker 1: entire first half. I thought that you also saw some
Speaker 1: positive signs from David Irving, who came off of suspension.
Speaker 1: They go on bye week and they'll get Sean Lee back.
Speaker 1: But here's the Cowboys problem. They're already two games behind
Speaker 1: the Eagles, and in a few weeks they have this
Speaker 1: four game stretch at Washington home versus the Chiefs at
Speaker 1: Atlanta home versus the Eagles. Is a brutal month. I
Speaker 1: think the whole a NFC East schedule and the a
Speaker 1: f C West schedule is something to keep an eye
Speaker 1: on because you think, okay, they're all gonna bounce back.
Speaker 1: It's like none of those teams have any easy games
Speaker 1: the rest of the season. Let's move on. Golf out
Speaker 1: of the shotgun takes his snap, he's got to go
Speaker 1: to the ends, only fires down the same lot. It's
Speaker 1: in complete. Football is incomplete. Look around, there's no flags.
Speaker 1: Shawks are gonna hang on and win. With Steve Steve
Speaker 1: Rabel k I r O the Seahawks radio network. The
Speaker 1: Rams final drive came up painfully short, uh and the
Speaker 1: Seahawks got out of the Los Angeles with an impressive
Speaker 1: and important win to pull them into a first place
Speaker 1: tie in the NFC West standings with the Rams through
Speaker 1: five weeks. Greg uh, if Cooper Cup makes that catch
Speaker 1: on third down, the play just before the one you
Speaker 1: just heard, we're talking about this game in a totally
Speaker 1: different way. But it didn't work out for the team
Speaker 1: of a t L. No, it would have been such
Speaker 1: an amazing first game as the team of a t L.
Speaker 1: And yeah, maybe more importantly, an amazing kind of stepping
Speaker 1: stone win for Jared Goff and this Rams team who
Speaker 1: after taking a quick too tend nothing lead or in
Speaker 1: the second quarter, really let the Seahawks control the game
Speaker 1: in some way make it an ugly sort of defensive game,
Speaker 1: and that's how the Seahawks want to play. But I
Speaker 1: was ultimately impressed with Golf on that last drive that
Speaker 1: on a couple of those throws, especially the first one
Speaker 1: where he looks off Thomas for so long before coming
Speaker 1: back to who was it was a higbie, I believe
Speaker 1: on that play. I mean, that was the next level
Speaker 1: mental ability in a big spot and a great throw too.
Speaker 1: So yeah, Okay, Golf ended up turning the ball over
Speaker 1: three times, and there was a lot to be disappointed
Speaker 1: about in this game. Ultimately, they still out game the
Speaker 1: Seahawks three for I didn't come away from this game
Speaker 1: thinking like, oh, the Rams are out of the Seahawks
Speaker 1: league like they've been, They've been phoning the last couple
Speaker 1: of weeks. They lost the turnover battle five to two,
Speaker 1: and then they lost on a drop by their most
Speaker 1: short handed player in the last moment. So it sounds
Speaker 1: like the Rams outplayed the Seahawks and they have Todd
Speaker 1: Gurley's fumble and eggxer lines miss Field go to blame
Speaker 1: for this, but the I would give the Seahawks defense
Speaker 1: credit at least that their defense, which which we love,
Speaker 1: made incredible places. Earl Thomas made one of the best
Speaker 1: plays of his entire career. Like when you think of
Speaker 1: Earl Thomas, you're gonna I'm gonna think of him like
Speaker 1: sprinting across the goal line to dive and force a
Speaker 1: fumble from Todd Gurley into the end zone which turns
Speaker 1: into a touchback. No one else makes that play other
Speaker 1: than Earl Thomas, and that prevented what could have been
Speaker 1: an initial opening touchdown. Who knows if it would have
Speaker 1: been seventeen nothing early, something like that if he doesn't
Speaker 1: make that play, and they made great turnovers. Sheldon Richardson
Speaker 1: made a great play. Drawn read, a lot of their
Speaker 1: defense made a great play. It's a huge win for Seattle,
Speaker 1: a team that's been, you know, on offense, especially very
Speaker 1: up and down this season, to go into their by
Speaker 1: having knocked off the Rams, who feel like kind of
Speaker 1: the Cinderella team in this division right now. And yet
Speaker 1: I still see a team that cannot run the ball
Speaker 1: effectively and cannot protect Russell Wilson adequately. Yeah, they haven't.
Speaker 1: They cannot find a solution at running back. Eddie Lacy
Speaker 1: actually drew the start in this game. He didn't do much.
Speaker 1: Thomas Rawls ended up getting some carried the team with
Speaker 1: twenty yards rushing. It's it's that's the type of situation
Speaker 1: that they're dealing with, and they're still looking for somebody
Speaker 1: and you know, think about it though. I mean, this is,
Speaker 1: like Mark said, this is such a big win for
Speaker 1: Seattle because if they lose and they go into their
Speaker 1: by at two and three and the Rams are flying
Speaker 1: at four and one, it's an entire different different conversation.
Speaker 1: But instead, what we have here West is the Seahawks
Speaker 1: clearly still trying to figure their identity out on offense,
Speaker 1: but they get us. They're buying good shape in first
Speaker 1: place in fact, so this is all everything considered, pretty
Speaker 1: good spot for them. This was a big game, I
Speaker 1: really do think for an early season game. I know
Speaker 1: everybody wants to find out if the Rams are for real.
Speaker 1: They probably are, Like like Greg said, they outgained the
Speaker 1: Seahawks pretty comfortably. There for real. But you gotta win
Speaker 1: this game because that's what you're probably not gonna get
Speaker 1: two teams out of the a f C West. Here's
Speaker 1: the thing that their last four games that come down
Speaker 1: to the last play of the game, right, So they've
Speaker 1: won the first three of them and they lost this one.
Speaker 1: So I'm not that's I don't think I've never bought it.
Speaker 1: They're never not a dominant team. The defense is making
Speaker 1: some strides. They were playing in Seattle, you know, the offense. Ultimately,
Speaker 1: you gotta tip the cap a little bit to Seattle
Speaker 1: on this. I will quickly ask the group, I mean,
Speaker 1: we've picked them as team of a t L. We're
Speaker 1: already starting to get tweets thanks a lot, you screwed
Speaker 1: us and from Seattle fans. Thanks so much that the
Speaker 1: reason that we pulled this out was because you have
Speaker 1: done this again. You've cursed the team. Do we buy
Speaker 1: any of this or is another nonsense? The Rams will
Speaker 1: be fine. It's one game. You know, you got you know,
Speaker 1: I see I see, I see you and Dan, you know,
Speaker 1: making little comments downstairs the team of observations, a little
Speaker 1: bit of a little bit of faith. This was before
Speaker 1: they even had that last drop observation. Right. I brought up,
Speaker 1: maybe the team of a T hell drop has to
Speaker 1: come out of off balls. A little sensitive about it,
Speaker 1: so I backed off. You gotta gotta know the room,
Speaker 1: read the room. But you know, I just remember last
Speaker 1: time we picked the team of a t L they
Speaker 1: lost five in a row. So you know it's one
Speaker 1: one drop, you know what. The fact that if he
Speaker 1: makes that play, we're up here singing Hosan is there
Speaker 1: the team? Well, I think we're getting ahead of it.
Speaker 1: I think I think it's clear the Cooper Cup dropped
Speaker 1: that ball because of the Team of a T That's
Speaker 1: what only was Greg a little nipped by the discussion.
Speaker 1: He immediately instituted a new role. You gotta have two
Speaker 1: losses at least it's just logical. The worst part of
Speaker 1: it though, for for Greg, is he's no longer the boss.
Speaker 1: Let's move on shut ups down Newton fire first down
Speaker 1: grab Calvin Benjamin hitchside, the number of eight slowed by
Speaker 1: Darius Slay at the forty won seventeen yards on third
Speaker 1: down to move the chain Mick Mix and w B
Speaker 1: T Cam Newton's first down connection with Calvin Benjamin was
Speaker 1: the difference for the Panthers. Late in the fourth quarter,
Speaker 1: the Panthers jumped out to a big lead on the
Speaker 1: Detroit lines held on for a win at Ford Field West.
Speaker 1: Newton shook off a few days of well earned ad
Speaker 1: pr and is back to looking like one of the
Speaker 1: best quarterbacks in the league. How about that he was phenomenal.
Speaker 1: We were on Sky Sports earlier and Greg compared it
Speaker 1: to pitching a perfect game. That's about it was about
Speaker 1: the quarterback equivalent. Uh. Since late in the second quarter
Speaker 1: against the Patriots, Can has probably played the best ball
Speaker 1: of his career. And I know he got off to
Speaker 1: such a rusty start this year, but he is playing
Speaker 1: m v P football and there's some redemption stories here.
Speaker 1: Mike Shula, who was always under fire in Carolina going
Speaker 1: back to calling a lot of the players that Cam
Speaker 1: needs to be working with Ed Dixon, who was run
Speaker 1: out of Baltimore because because he dropped everything thrown his way.
Speaker 1: They're gonna make a Hallmark movie out of Ed Dixon.
Speaker 1: Ed Dixon today set a record. What was it was
Speaker 1: the highest yards per catch average by a tight end
Speaker 1: and in a single game. I saw this coming. But
Speaker 1: I'm see why you guys, and I listened to Greg
Speaker 1: on Thursday's podcast. The better team did win this game,
Speaker 1: and they should have won by a more comfortable margin. Wait,
Speaker 1: what did I say? You said the Panthers were better
Speaker 1: than they are a better but you know, I know
Speaker 1: fans don't like us right now, but the Panthers are
Speaker 1: a better team. And I love just looking at the
Speaker 1: box score that they only they said. I don't love
Speaker 1: the fact that they only could run for twenty eight
Speaker 1: yards on thirty attempts. That's unprecedented for a Panther's team
Speaker 1: to the Pro Bowl. Centers out too, which is a
Speaker 1: big deal to be a pass first in that way.
Speaker 1: But I love that Ron Rivera let Cam Newton throw
Speaker 1: on third and nine late in the game, where sometimes
Speaker 1: Ron Rivera might run the ball in that situation to
Speaker 1: try to bleed the clock out. Instead, he let Cam
Speaker 1: Newton throw and he won the game with it. Can
Speaker 1: I just ask with Christian McCaffrey, I want to dig
Speaker 1: into this game this week, but seven yards rushing, it's
Speaker 1: another I understand in the passing game, he's a big
Speaker 1: asset and he's being used a lot, But where are
Speaker 1: we with him as a running back right now? Does
Speaker 1: it help you to pict your early career Reggie Bush? Yes,
Speaker 1: I think that's what his role is. He's not an
Speaker 1: inside runner. I think he ran inside in the preseason, okay,
Speaker 1: but he's not running anyone over and you get him
Speaker 1: into an NFL weight program. Maybe in a couple of
Speaker 1: years he'll do that, but I think right now he's
Speaker 1: a satellite guy. The usage tells the story here that
Speaker 1: Stewart had eighteen carries. McCaffrey just got three rushes. So
Speaker 1: they're I guess they're they're finding their way how they
Speaker 1: want to use them or maybe they but it's just
Speaker 1: it's a satellite passing up touchdown was spectacular one handed.
Speaker 1: How about how about the Lions and Matthew Stafford. I
Speaker 1: thought Stafford had his worst game of the season last week,
Speaker 1: and then this week maybe wasn't one of his best
Speaker 1: either until the very end. Well, I think with with
Speaker 1: what's going on with the Lions offense, and I'll go
Speaker 1: back to Thursday's podcast again. Mark was talking about the
Speaker 1: offensive line that everybody keeps giving them pats on the
Speaker 1: back for correcting it. It's not corrected. They he got hit.
Speaker 1: He got sacked six times to day and hit over
Speaker 1: ten and they've got another problem. It's not just the
Speaker 1: offensive line. Wide receivers don't win their routes. And you
Speaker 1: got a guy paid maybe not like a number one,
Speaker 1: but Marvin Jones is supposed to be their number one
Speaker 1: receiver and he doesn't beat good cornerbacks. So I think
Speaker 1: that's a combination that you've got an offensive line that's
Speaker 1: not great and you've got wide receivers that don't win
Speaker 1: individual matchups. Let's move out stealers from their own thirty
Speaker 1: four yard line bags showing blitz again, drop out of
Speaker 1: it again, dropping his Robbie Carter closed ditt hit of the
Speaker 1: the field off, fallers, knock away, picked off, Barry Church
Speaker 1: picked off a tip path or thirty five. It's not
Speaker 1: the twenty it's not the five he is into the
Speaker 1: end zone. That is another pick six touchdown Jacksonville. This
Speaker 1: time it is Burying Church for the score. Frank Frangie
Speaker 1: or Fringy. I'll let you guys know w j x
Speaker 1: L with the call. Ben Roethlisberger through a career where's
Speaker 1: five interceptions and Barry Church had the second of two
Speaker 1: Jaguars pick sixes as the Jaguars embarrassed the Steelers with
Speaker 1: an eyebrow raising thirty to nine win at Hines Field UM.
Speaker 1: After the worst game of his distinguished career, Big Ben
Speaker 1: said to reporters, perhaps in jest, we don't really know,
Speaker 1: but this is just what was floating around Twitter. Quote.
Speaker 1: Maybe I don't have it anymore, Greg Uh, it's no
Speaker 1: longer premature to cast some doubt on the Steelers offense
Speaker 1: and their long time leader. It's not And I want
Speaker 1: to hear the whole back and forth kind of in context,
Speaker 1: like I don't put too much into what Ben says
Speaker 1: in general, like because it's been blown up out of
Speaker 1: proportion Jet, so I would put this in that catch well.
Speaker 1: I will say watching this that this was the first
Speaker 1: time that I've watched a Big Ben game and all
Speaker 1: this business with the retirement, which maybe, if anything, made
Speaker 1: you question is he was out for attention or was
Speaker 1: it something that was in the in the world of
Speaker 1: his mind somewhere that he didn't know much how much
Speaker 1: longer he wanted to play. Who knows. This was the
Speaker 1: game where I thought I can picture an NFL without
Speaker 1: Big Ben in the in the in the league next year.
Speaker 1: I mean it was it wasn't well, you put it
Speaker 1: sand which was on it, You're you're hoping for it,
Speaker 1: you put out of one listening. So I don't think.
Speaker 1: I don't. I think in general this podcast views itself
Speaker 1: as slightly more powerful than we are on some level psychologically.
Speaker 1: But you are looking at a game with Antonio Brown
Speaker 1: where he's still racking up yardage Levan Bell not a
Speaker 1: good box score game but looks good, still look good
Speaker 1: last week, and they have all these parts Martavis Bryant.
Speaker 1: They couldn't get anything done. And this is against the
Speaker 1: Jaguars team that had Blake Bortles strow the ball fourteen
Speaker 1: times and never for one second made it clear they're
Speaker 1: gonna do anything else than line up Leonard four Nette
Speaker 1: and Chris Ivory and go right at you over and over,
Speaker 1: and they were kind of shut down for from the
Speaker 1: second to third quarter window of this game, and then
Speaker 1: four net down the stretch. They closed this game with
Speaker 1: eighteen straight rushes against Pittsburgh. It's what said he wanted
Speaker 1: all along, no more, no more passing. I would take
Speaker 1: this team seriously, and I would take their defense very seriously.
Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey, Yeah, he got torched early by Antonio Brown,
Speaker 1: but that happens to everyone against Antonio Brown. He also
Speaker 1: tipped a pass for a pick, had an interception of
Speaker 1: his own. A j boy. It's like they've got a
Speaker 1: lot of elements on their defense that make me think
Speaker 1: this team has to be taken extremely seriously in the
Speaker 1: a f C South and conference wide. We're still to
Speaker 1: be taking seriously as a weekly opponent. They don't have
Speaker 1: to be taken seriously as a contender weekly quarterback right
Speaker 1: And they had the number thirty two run defense by
Speaker 1: Football Outsiders Metrics entering this game. What I will say though,
Speaker 1: is that something about the formula is very legit. Like
Speaker 1: the down in London, this looked like beat down material.
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh can it cannock get out their own way, But
Speaker 1: they had to do with Jacksonville's defense. It wasn't just
Speaker 1: simply in a vacuum. And this is the same Jaguars
Speaker 1: defense or a team that couldn't get out of its
Speaker 1: own way against the Jets last weekn could have closed
Speaker 1: out a game they should have won. So they're really
Speaker 1: hard to figure out. And the quarterback play, which remains,
Speaker 1: you know, suspect the bottom near the bottom of the NFL.
Speaker 1: I think it's beyond suspect. Bordles can't play. That's gonna
Speaker 1: cost them their season. But they're kind of like in
Speaker 1: the same for me. They're in the same place that
Speaker 1: the Texans maybe we're before Watson emerged, where it's like, man,
Speaker 1: if they could just get one guy behind center you
Speaker 1: could trust, you could really start to take your team. Seriously,
Speaker 1: they're not quite there yet, but there are pieces. There's
Speaker 1: no doubt they've They've only won three games last year,
Speaker 1: so they've matched that they only won three games. So
Speaker 1: this is one of the very worst franchises along with
Speaker 1: the Browns in terms of winning games in the two thousands.
Speaker 1: If they can win six, seven, eight games with a
Speaker 1: great defense, and they've obviously I would think have learned
Speaker 1: by then that Blake Bordos is absolutely not the answer.
Speaker 1: Then suddenly you feel like, Okay, we're starting to build
Speaker 1: something if we can just add a quarterback. They have
Speaker 1: very strong strong points, the best cornerback duo in the NFL,
Speaker 1: A front line the absolutely attacks opposing passers, and Leonard
Speaker 1: Purnett is in legitimate superstar and Myles Telvin Smith and
Speaker 1: Myles Jack are are about as good, good about as
Speaker 1: good as a duo that that we're seeing out there.
Speaker 1: It's it's amazing, though, that that people are just ready
Speaker 1: to give up on the Steelers. I'm not at all.
Speaker 1: I'm not either, but I still see his team that's
Speaker 1: going to it's gonna beat itself down the stretch, and
Speaker 1: I do not see some January run coming from them.
Speaker 1: This will probably be a sound bite we play on
Speaker 1: super Bowl something. I think that this for me. I
Speaker 1: predict this will be the rock bottom moment for Roethlisberger.
Speaker 1: And I think he'll get better because the track records
Speaker 1: too good. There's still too many good players there. Maybe
Speaker 1: maybe he is shot there is is that crowd turned
Speaker 1: on them so hard? You heard it in the sound
Speaker 1: called they turned up that turned up this? I gotta
Speaker 1: I gotta text from someone and you know who you are?
Speaker 1: That was that asked? You know, is the Steve Steelers
Speaker 1: window shut? And I'm just thinking, Yeah, we gotta we
Speaker 1: gotta back off, we gotta calm down. This was the
Speaker 1: second ranked team of the Football Outsiders going into this week.
Speaker 1: I like what they have going on defense in general.
Speaker 1: Text by loose Kings is absolutely a team that can
Speaker 1: turn it around in November or something like that? Was
Speaker 1: that Anthony Nick, your famous comedian free end. Now he
Speaker 1: would not send such a panic tweet. Go ahead, I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna do it. What you didn't get me to do?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you've lured me into that one, Greg. This
Speaker 1: guy rewriting history all right? Here he comes into the studio. Uh,
Speaker 1: the great muscular Jesus. Look at the size of that dude,
Speaker 1: Nick Shook. Let's move on. Talk about a little Miami Dolphins,
Speaker 1: Tennessee Titoons football. Cutler's black control fires. Who's got a receiver?
Speaker 1: It's a touchdown? Miami Jarvis Laby, how are you going there?
Speaker 1: You go? All right? Uh? That was yes, Jimmy Cephalo
Speaker 1: w q A M Dolphins radio network. J Cutler answered
Speaker 1: a growing chorus of Boo Birds in Miami with a
Speaker 1: fourth quarter touchdown connection to Jarvis Landry and the Miami
Speaker 1: Dolpins did just enough to secure a sixteen ten win
Speaker 1: over the Titoons, who were missing Marcus Mariota. Yes, let's
Speaker 1: officially welcome and Nick Shook for a couple of games. Uh.
Speaker 1: Nick was testd with watching what sound like a tremendous
Speaker 1: comma riveting comma showdown in South Florida. How many mett
Speaker 1: more chance? How many we want more chance before you
Speaker 1: start to question the meaning of life and especially the
Speaker 1: meaning of life. One more tops in South Florida. I
Speaker 1: heard it a lot in the first half and talking
Speaker 1: about the same that more right, that's gonna backup for
Speaker 1: forty five years. Yeah, the guy who had to play
Speaker 1: in the playoffs, Yeah, yeah, that guy. It was. It
Speaker 1: was warranted. Jay Cutler was really really bad through three quarters.
Speaker 1: He finished with a final stat line of twelve six
Speaker 1: for a whopping ninety two yards, a touchdown, and an
Speaker 1: interception that was a flailing attempt to try to extend
Speaker 1: a play that was doomed. Uh. Too often, Jay Cutler
Speaker 1: was found in the pocket, drifting backward and further back
Speaker 1: and further back because he didn't trust his own offensive
Speaker 1: line to block for him, which I can't really blame
Speaker 1: him for it. That's also his default quarterback fundamental. Yes, exactly,
Speaker 1: the whole you know, quote unquote, I'm I'm a freelancer
Speaker 1: kind of. I have never seen a quarterback take like
Speaker 1: his snaps off his back foot. It's like a cartoon
Speaker 1: one of like it's the one they're going back pedaling
Speaker 1: backwards to get away from the wildly coyote or something.
Speaker 1: Can't be but the position. And as much as I
Speaker 1: want to put this all on j Cutler, it's not
Speaker 1: all on him because the Dolphins couldn't run the ball
Speaker 1: at all, and that's their bread and butter, you know.
Speaker 1: They they're a team that builds out from running the football,
Speaker 1: j Gi. And this has been a problem for them
Speaker 1: all year and it was a problem for them again today.
Speaker 1: He finished with just over three yards to carry by
Speaker 1: I think whatever, I can't do math uh and all right,
Speaker 1: none of us really if they If they can't run
Speaker 1: the football, they can't do much on offense. And it
Speaker 1: was really clear from the outset they were lucky though,
Speaker 1: because they ran into a Titans team without Marcus Mariota.
Speaker 1: That is a totally different team. I mean, not even
Speaker 1: close to the Titans team that you might expect to
Speaker 1: contend for the a f C South in any fashion.
Speaker 1: They couldn't move the ball if they really you know,
Speaker 1: put a prayer up, yeah, because I guess the Dolphins
Speaker 1: are what they are. But I come out of this
Speaker 1: more concerned with the fact that if you miss Marcus
Speaker 1: Mariota for we don't know how long at this point. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, they're playing games with that report. But this
Speaker 1: team is is doomed without myriad, Yeah, absolutely, I mean
Speaker 1: it was it was clear from the outside. You know,
Speaker 1: no knock on Matt Castle. He gave it, you know,
Speaker 1: his best I'll knock him. Yeah, but we know who
Speaker 1: he is at this Yeah, at this point in his career,
Speaker 1: it seemed a little crazy they went into the season
Speaker 1: with him as the backup. Last week, I said that
Speaker 1: Cardinals were the worst two and two team in the league.
Speaker 1: You know, now you gotta look at the Dolphins. I mean,
Speaker 1: there's only two options to choose from between the Dolphins
Speaker 1: and the Bucks. But it's like they they have been
Speaker 1: one of the worst teams in the league. It feels
Speaker 1: like but they're two and two, so they could still
Speaker 1: be one of those teams that finds a way to
Speaker 1: change who they are the Dolphins, and oh they can't.
Speaker 1: There's every yeah that's true, and maybe I think, you know,
Speaker 1: I think Matt More would be their chance of winning
Speaker 1: nine times you don't want to see him. At some
Speaker 1: point you have to how bummed do you greg that
Speaker 1: you don't get to talk about worst two and two
Speaker 1: teams anymore until next October? Well, never know, the Buccaneers
Speaker 1: game could get canceled this week because I don't know lightning,
Speaker 1: let's say, and then they could be the worst two
Speaker 1: and two teams. And to think about it, the Dolphins
Speaker 1: are a young Huai who missed field goal from being
Speaker 1: one in three. I have an announcement, Dan, after a
Speaker 1: two and a half year dalliance with the Titans, I
Speaker 1: am now on your wavelength. They are the Tittoons. They
Speaker 1: deserved no sympathy and no respect. They have just lost
Speaker 1: one of their you know, deepest most committed backers in
Speaker 1: the media circle about when Mariota's back. I don't care
Speaker 1: when you sign Matt Castle, who has been watched up
Speaker 1: clearly for two years, and you sign him and make
Speaker 1: up your backup to an injury prone quarterback when better
Speaker 1: quarterbacks are out on the market. You deserve zero sympathy whatsoever.
Speaker 1: If Matt Castle has to play against even the worst
Speaker 1: team in the NFL, it's a loss. It's the Cowboys
Speaker 1: pre Dak Prescott is a major acquisition for the Tytoons faction.
Speaker 1: I mean, this is a press release, will be going
Speaker 1: up shortly. You could add me to that roster's should
Speaker 1: come on board. I'm coming with plenty of room on
Speaker 1: this bandwagon. Greg Mark, Well, I'd like to see myself
Speaker 1: potentially at some point retiring in Nashville, So I'm going
Speaker 1: to hold off. I think they can. They can win
Speaker 1: games and be fun to watch when Marcus Mariota plays.
Speaker 1: This game only had three hundred and sixty six yards.
Speaker 1: I can't imagine there's been many that's between both teams.
Speaker 1: I can't imagine there's been many games in the last
Speaker 1: decade plus that have been close to that bad offense.
Speaker 1: You did the Lord and I can't imagine there's much
Speaker 1: else to say about this game, So let's move on.
Speaker 1: Slings one down the right soft line curse has just
Speaker 1: sling a baby five and inside the pylon touchown. You
Speaker 1: knew who that was? Bob was Susan w e p
Speaker 1: N Jets Radio Network. Uh, Jermaine curses touchdown catch gave
Speaker 1: the Jet some second half cushion a seventeen fourteen win
Speaker 1: over the still winless Browns in Cleveland, and the Jets
Speaker 1: are now winners of three straight and enter their Wicks
Speaker 1: Week six whole matchup with the Pats tied a top
Speaker 1: to a f C East Go figure, how about that anyway? Um,
Speaker 1: let me let me just start here, boys and shook.
Speaker 1: I know another Browns fan, another sad Browns fan. You
Speaker 1: are um that I have. I have no illusions that
Speaker 1: the Jets are you know, some special like Cinderella Club
Speaker 1: coming coming together for ten or eleven wins. It's just
Speaker 1: not gonna happen. But they've now proven for the third
Speaker 1: straight week that they can beat uh bad to mediocre teams,
Speaker 1: especially um, especially bad teams in the Browns Chook are
Speaker 1: the worst of the bad teams. Well you you pretty
Speaker 1: much summed up in one tweet today the Browns are
Speaker 1: back on watch. Uh last week was rock bottom. This
Speaker 1: week was pretty close than they were last year. I
Speaker 1: think defensively, they're a tad bit better, but offensively they're
Speaker 1: so far behind where they were last year it's not
Speaker 1: even close, and it it totally hamstrings them the entire game.
Speaker 1: They can't get anyway well. And they benched de Shan
Speaker 1: Kaiser at halftime, which I don't know how that makes
Speaker 1: How did that make you feel, guys about I think
Speaker 1: it's it creates a very muddy message to the team.
Speaker 1: Because Hugh Jackson came out of the Bengals loss saying
Speaker 1: and quotes the Kaiser had played lights out. I didn't
Speaker 1: see that watching that game. But if that's where the
Speaker 1: coaches at and wanted to say we're gonna give him
Speaker 1: full support, then you go into it. Listen, they were
Speaker 1: off on the red zone. It was a circus in
Speaker 1: the red zone today. But that said, they've been a
Speaker 1: circus at all aspects of the field the entire season.
Speaker 1: So I don't know why you pull the plug on
Speaker 1: Kaiser and what it says to your team. It's it's
Speaker 1: two turnovers inside the tent. They outgained the jets um
Speaker 1: almost three to one in the first half and came
Speaker 1: out of it down three nothing, And I think Hugh
Speaker 1: Jackson maybe it was a movement out of frustration. But
Speaker 1: to me, this is always the risk of making Kaiser
Speaker 1: the Week one starters because you put him in a
Speaker 1: tough spot because you take a guy that was clearly raw,
Speaker 1: you put them on a team with no offensive skill,
Speaker 1: and then when he struggles, you bench him. You play
Speaker 1: head games with a guy, and then you wonder yourself
Speaker 1: because you know how this organization acts. Are they now
Speaker 1: internally viewing this guy's damage goods? And are we now
Speaker 1: we're going to be looked to April and they're the
Speaker 1: Browns taking another quarterback. This kid never had a chance.
Speaker 1: If that's what's gonna happen here, here's the thing. I
Speaker 1: don't think the thought process is even that intricate, because
Speaker 1: I think this is a move made by Hugh Jackson
Speaker 1: to try and save his job, win the game. And
Speaker 1: you know what, what was the right call? Kevin Hogan
Speaker 1: came in and right, yeah, I mean it's got a big,
Speaker 1: strong jawline. I mean, there there's a lot about Kevin Hogan.
Speaker 1: You gotta leave Kaiser on the bench. You have to
Speaker 1: leave him there because you're killing him. There are several
Speaker 1: ways to develop quarterbacks in the NFL. You can hear
Speaker 1: half a dozen quarterbacks say yeah, the best way is
Speaker 1: to wait a year or two behind the vetter, and
Speaker 1: you can hear a half a dozen say, hey, throw
Speaker 1: into the fire, We're ready. No one ever says put
Speaker 1: him behind on offensive line. That opens no goals for
Speaker 1: the running backs. With Kenny Britt and a bunch of
Speaker 1: receipt verse who drop every ball thrown to him. That's
Speaker 1: not how you develop a quarterback. Deshaun Kaiser cannot develop
Speaker 1: in Cleveland right now. I mean actual actual line from
Speaker 1: the CBS or Fox telecast today. Bryce Treggs is getting
Speaker 1: featured here. In his first game with the Browns. They
Speaker 1: brought up a dude named Bryce Tregs off the practice
Speaker 1: squad and he was being used as their number one
Speaker 1: receiver in this game. They just there's no They did
Speaker 1: gain four hundred nineteen yards to twelve for the Jets.
Speaker 1: You see that and you think absolute beat down. One
Speaker 1: team is significantly better than the other. They find a
Speaker 1: way to lose. They own the time possession in the
Speaker 1: first half, it just had nothing to show for it
Speaker 1: because they couldn't convert in the red zone, which you
Speaker 1: would put on to Shaun Kaiser because he's the one
Speaker 1: who through the interception and part of the fumble and
Speaker 1: the option. But in the same token, what's Hugh Jackson
Speaker 1: doing with the play calling here? Well, they're inside the
Speaker 1: five twice and one time you roll them out and
Speaker 1: try to force the throw along the goal line. Another
Speaker 1: time you rout a speed option. They're they're ripe to
Speaker 1: have had an offensive coordinator come in and take some
Speaker 1: of this off the Jackson's plate. Number one. But secondly,
Speaker 1: we called last week this rock bottom moment that feels
Speaker 1: at this point with what we know about the Brown
Speaker 1: slightly naive because we know things can get a lot
Speaker 1: darker and it's heading in that direction. If if Hugh
Speaker 1: Jackson isn't handling all of the play calling, it isn't
Speaker 1: developing quarterbacks, what good is he? And that? Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: the that's the question. Is Hugh Jackson's job safe? And
Speaker 1: on the other side, Todd Bolso, I think a lot
Speaker 1: of people wrote off the guy that would be uh
Speaker 1: sent out to pasture after a last season. He's doing
Speaker 1: a nice job because they have limited talent, the Jets,
Speaker 1: but they're they're beating these teams. They're on a three
Speaker 1: game winning streak. He's about two wins away, two or
Speaker 1: three wins away from keeping his job, and that would
Speaker 1: be a big upset. I think he's already kept it.
Speaker 1: He's been very creative with his defensive play calls. I
Speaker 1: think he did a good job in that Jacksonville game.
Speaker 1: But it is interesting how what a lot of Jets fans,
Speaker 1: including you Dan said was basically that their worst case
Speaker 1: scenario from this season is something you think that they're
Speaker 1: on track to do, but you're kind of loving it
Speaker 1: because they are kind of on track to do the
Speaker 1: thing all Jets fans said they hope they don't do,
Speaker 1: which is blow the top pick by winning six games
Speaker 1: but not really be any In fact, there's another Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's another scenario coming in play now where Sam Donald
Speaker 1: could be in New York but on the Giants next year,
Speaker 1: which the most Jets thing ever. But it's yeah, it's listen.
Speaker 1: It's a tough situation to be a Jets man at
Speaker 1: all times, but this is in fact, there's gonna be
Speaker 1: a Week six game, and again, I don't think the
Speaker 1: Jet is gonna be a miracle story, but I get
Speaker 1: to get a little excited for the Patriots coming into
Speaker 1: the Metal lands in middle October. I didn't think that
Speaker 1: was possible about thod miles away from this corner over
Speaker 1: here that you claimed in August. Hey, you thought I
Speaker 1: was on it too. You thought it was We all
Speaker 1: thought that that was happening for everyone listening. Shook is
Speaker 1: literally on the corner with cecil there. They're sitting as
Speaker 1: close as too many. Not anymore though, because Nick is
Speaker 1: going to leave us now. Nick Shook, thank you as
Speaker 1: always for helping us out the six Men of the Year,
Speaker 1: our own j R. Smith. I appreciate that. Oh, by
Speaker 1: the way, you see Miles from Bobby Jones, I've had
Speaker 1: a great medal Mile scary. If I knew any great
Speaker 1: middle relievers in history, I would throw it out right now,
Speaker 1: because that's it. You You come in for a couple of innings.
Speaker 1: Throw gas. Mike Jackson was the setup man for the
Speaker 1: Indians in the nineties. Here, John Well that Jr. Smith
Speaker 1: point Scarrett second sack. He used the Jr. Smith celebration
Speaker 1: a good friend. Yeah, yeah, the to the two positives
Speaker 1: to the Browns, and then we'll move on. Miles Guard
Speaker 1: had two sacks and limited and limited snaps and David
Speaker 1: and Juke and Joku their first end tight end. First
Speaker 1: round tight end had uh two really nice catches, including
Speaker 1: the third positive being the game ended and the game
Speaker 1: is over all. Right, let's take a break here to
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Speaker 1: fakes to mix some c carters at the Buffalo forty.
Speaker 1: It's pretty clear that on the field to go back
Speaker 1: five touch and seventies seven yards, Andy Dalton finding a
Speaker 1: J Green who roast? Did the rookie cornerback? True? Davy
Speaker 1: is white? That's Dan Horde and his very excited buddy
Speaker 1: w E b n the Bengals man. Should we market?
Speaker 1: I think it's market? I didn't like it's excited buddy.
Speaker 1: Was Dave Lapham? Was that Lapham? I think David knew? Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's Dan Horne. Yeah. Thus up from guys growing up
Speaker 1: Lindsey Fulton behind the glass, the Bengals are alive in
Speaker 1: the a f C. North. Andy Dalton wasn't bothered by
Speaker 1: steady rain and Cincinnati throwing for three yards and that
Speaker 1: long touchdown to A J. Green. In the end, it
Speaker 1: was a Bengals TwixT win over the Bills. Uh you know, boys,
Speaker 1: it was a very unusual day for a J. Green.
Speaker 1: He finished for seven for nine and a touch. In fact,
Speaker 1: at three for ninety nine and a touch after the
Speaker 1: first quarter. But also he had a direct role in
Speaker 1: three turnovers. One was a high throw that you could
Speaker 1: go either way, you could put it on Dall, but
Speaker 1: it went off his receiver's hands for a pick. Another
Speaker 1: one was a pass that hit him right in the
Speaker 1: chest that bounced off the one and the eight for
Speaker 1: another interception. And then he fumbled uh deep in the
Speaker 1: opponent's territory after taking a pretty big hit from Uh.
Speaker 1: I believe a safety, but so he was all over
Speaker 1: the map. But it really did show in this game
Speaker 1: was the difference between a team and Cincinnati, where the
Speaker 1: quarterback has someone to go to and a team like
Speaker 1: the Bills, who have really done a nice job this
Speaker 1: year maximizing their talent, but they don't seem to have
Speaker 1: enough playmakers. And Charles Clay went out of this game
Speaker 1: early with the knee injury. He had been a big
Speaker 1: part of the offense and Lashawn McCoy has not been
Speaker 1: able to get going, and I put a lot on
Speaker 1: that on the fact that they don't have somebody to
Speaker 1: make things happen on offense. Not a good roster. And
Speaker 1: you can you can look at this team and say, yes,
Speaker 1: we respect how well coached they are. You can look
Speaker 1: at Bucky Brooks is nice article from last week on
Speaker 1: the Bills playing is good at team defense is anyone
Speaker 1: in the NFL and appreciate that. And then you look
Speaker 1: at the other side the ball, and they are a
Speaker 1: way for a thin They are one of the thinnest
Speaker 1: offensive rosters in the NFL. Tyrod Taylor and Lashawn McCoy
Speaker 1: have done a good job of hiding that. But this
Speaker 1: is I don't think there's anything wrong with saying, hey,
Speaker 1: I'm impressed with what the Bills are done, but they're
Speaker 1: not a playoff team. Yeah, they're featuring nicol Leary and
Speaker 1: you don't have Jordan Matthews. It's it's when Jordan Matthews
Speaker 1: is kind of a Jenga piece because they just don't
Speaker 1: have another wide receiver that's capable. That's a problems. A
Speaker 1: Jones has had a night had had a worst year
Speaker 1: than the Mari Cooper as A. Jones has had a
Speaker 1: nightmare season going into this week and six targets, one catch,
Speaker 1: nine yards. I know at least I saw a drop
Speaker 1: uh in that mix, and I mean he's had as
Speaker 1: nightmarish rookie season, and you can imagine. I don't know
Speaker 1: if Sammy Watkins was ever going to make a difference
Speaker 1: in Buffalo. He was always a tease and he kind
Speaker 1: of continues to be that player. But they missed next
Speaker 1: today for the for the Rams, it was, Yeah, reminded
Speaker 1: me he's kind of a tantalizing talent and a frustrating talent.
Speaker 1: But you take him out of the mix and you, yeah,
Speaker 1: you plug in Jordan Matthews to be that guy with
Speaker 1: Jordan Matthews isn't that guy. I'm just impressed with. I
Speaker 1: like teams where that it seems after two weeks that
Speaker 1: the book is out on them, and it seemed like
Speaker 1: it was flaming disaster the Bengals. I'm not saying the
Speaker 1: a f C North totally wide open number one start
Speaker 1: right there, but the turnaround under Bill Laser, it's working.
Speaker 1: Something about Andy Dalton's a sound drop that continues to
Speaker 1: send listeners off the side of the highway. But it's
Speaker 1: like Andy Dalton from the neck up, seems like he's
Speaker 1: taken a turn this season for the better. He played
Speaker 1: really well today and you're gonna see it hurt too, right,
Speaker 1: he was banged up and he stayed in the game. Um,
Speaker 1: like I said, the two interceptions, uh, you can maybe
Speaker 1: say one was on him, but he was, he was
Speaker 1: on target. It was not good conditions to be throwing
Speaker 1: the football, and it didn't affect him at all. And
Speaker 1: he is again he's always going to have that, you know,
Speaker 1: kind of a fatalistic streak in him. And and there
Speaker 1: was a play at the end of the game where
Speaker 1: they were trying to close out Buffalo and he was
Speaker 1: in the reds own and he threw a past that
Speaker 1: should have been intercepted. And if that gets intercepted, maybe
Speaker 1: they don't kick um, you know, that field goal, and
Speaker 1: then who knows what happens, and and maybe he ends
Speaker 1: up wearing the goat horns. But he got a little
Speaker 1: lucky in that case. But I'm balanced. I thought it
Speaker 1: was a very good Andy Dalton game. And yeah, especially
Speaker 1: with what's going on with Ben Roethlisberger, AC North is
Speaker 1: wide open. There one game back, wide open and not
Speaker 1: a very good division. Right now, they're one game back
Speaker 1: and suddenly their defense is playing better than Baltimore and perfect.
Speaker 1: A J. Green's got about what five hundred plus yards
Speaker 1: now and I think thirty something catches through five weeks,
Speaker 1: like if always sort of waited for the A J.
Speaker 1: Green goes even next level with his great numbers season,
Speaker 1: and this this could be it. Let's move forward, whence
Speaker 1: into a long count thanks to snappy five looking snapping up,
Speaker 1: he is going deep and it is the the ten
Speaker 1: the five touchdown to Merrow rees w I P. Carson
Speaker 1: Wentz through three touchdown passes in the first half and
Speaker 1: four overall, including that fifty nine yard strike to Tory Smith,
Speaker 1: as the Eagles had no problem disposing of the Cardinals
Speaker 1: a thirty four seven win at the Link. Greg, the
Speaker 1: Eagles are good. The Cardinals not so much. No, they're not.
Speaker 1: In the telecast spent most of the game just in
Speaker 1: shock of what a one sided game this was, and
Speaker 1: I don't think it should be that shocking. I think
Speaker 1: the Cardinals have been lucky to win a couple of games,
Speaker 1: and the Eagles know what they are, which is a
Speaker 1: tough team on both sides of the ball. Their defensive
Speaker 1: line shredded Arizona, which was very predictable, and Carson went
Speaker 1: maybe a little less predictable, came out very accurate. He's
Speaker 1: doing a good job changing plays at the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 1: He hit a couple of really big plays today to
Speaker 1: Smith and agil Are and they just coasted. I mean,
Speaker 1: they are a really fun team to watch right now.
Speaker 1: I can't believe that the Thursday night football, which gets
Speaker 1: so whacked, and it should because a lot of the
Speaker 1: early season matchups are are you punk? But we're getting
Speaker 1: some good ones Earlier. You get the Carolina Panthers, the Eagles.
Speaker 1: This Thursday night, the Eagles, a who lost by a
Speaker 1: touchdown of the Chiefs, a few plays away from being undefeated.
Speaker 1: And I don't think it's a mirage. I think you
Speaker 1: still need to see Carson Wentz growing. But there is
Speaker 1: not a lot of weakness on this team. They can
Speaker 1: run the ball. Over the last two or three weeks.
Speaker 1: They impose their will on teams. And I look at
Speaker 1: the Cardinals and I say, look at you, that Carson
Speaker 1: Palmer is just back there waiting to take a season
Speaker 1: ending injury. You're right, the no risk it no biscuit,
Speaker 1: you know, philosophy is why we like arians. But it's
Speaker 1: also getting his quarterback killed. I mean, there's no there's
Speaker 1: no biscuits. The biscuits are gone. They're like they don't
Speaker 1: have any They always just leaving five guys to protect
Speaker 1: no matter what, like that's his motto. And what that
Speaker 1: led to today was very conservative third and longs where
Speaker 1: Carson Palmers saw the past rush coming and he just
Speaker 1: had to dump it off to save his life. That
Speaker 1: happened three or four times on third and thirteen where
Speaker 1: the Cardinals are throwing three or four yards, and I
Speaker 1: start thinking, like, where are the Cardinals that we used
Speaker 1: to love Chris Wesley. They are one of the sloppiest,
Speaker 1: uh mistake prone teams in the NFL. And nothing will
Speaker 1: make you look like a poorly coach team, like a
Speaker 1: shoddy offensive line. Yep, it's true. And they they're kind
Speaker 1: of built now where the defense has to carry them,
Speaker 1: and the defense isn't that good. I mean, it's fine,
Speaker 1: but Patrick Peterson kind of lost his mind on the
Speaker 1: sidelines at one point. I don't know if this will
Speaker 1: become a story because they blitzed on third and nineteen
Speaker 1: and that's when Wentz just hit gorgeous tear drop to Aglar,
Speaker 1: who then made an incredible play after the guy. I
Speaker 1: thought it was one of the plays of the year.
Speaker 1: Seems like Carson Wentz's mid He's had a few of
Speaker 1: those in a lot of them. That's why he's fun
Speaker 1: to watch. Like he'll have a couple of head scratchers,
Speaker 1: like his interception was a really bad UH situation he missed,
Speaker 1: just like a wide open third down where he threw
Speaker 1: it in the dirt. Like he has those plays, but
Speaker 1: he has the wild plays that get you excited. And now,
Speaker 1: if you're a Cardinals fan and my good buddy Jay
Speaker 1: z um Walt, is there now pretty clearly looking at
Speaker 1: the reality that UH there into for this particular group
Speaker 1: seemed to shut after that NFC Title Game loss. And
Speaker 1: if you ever want to see a window shut, go
Speaker 1: watch All or Nothing Season one, because that that was
Speaker 1: that team's closest chance to get back to the Super
Speaker 1: Bowl and it just didn't work out. I wonder if
Speaker 1: they would think about trading Palmer or Fitzgerald before the
Speaker 1: trading deadline. I know they want a couple of games early,
Speaker 1: which competents it to who into where and for why ever? No,
Speaker 1: And I don't know. I think Larry Fitzgerald is too
Speaker 1: much of an institution to be traded. I mean, let's say,
Speaker 1: you know, they find out Marcus Mariota's missing four more weeks.
Speaker 1: Why wouldn't a team like the Titans just just bringing
Speaker 1: a body. I mean, he's basically pretty. He's a body,
Speaker 1: not the problem you've been described as. A body just
Speaker 1: gets it in time, no one underneath for going and
Speaker 1: has the reception. Five to the quarter of the end zone, touchdown,
Speaker 1: Chargers knock on wood. That was Bunny. That was money, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was finally has a little fun mother. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: the lyric. It's like, mother, do do do do here?
Speaker 1: It's such jaw is the line. I'm just you know
Speaker 1: that song, the Pink Floyd Floyd Mother here, it's so
Speaker 1: bad something like that. You have heard this song, guarantee,
Speaker 1: I already two years old. I'm telling you has definitely
Speaker 1: heard this song. Everyone guessed it was an Eddy Money
Speaker 1: song where you just checkered history. In your late teens
Speaker 1: in early twenties, you were listening to some Pink Floyd
Speaker 1: At one doesn't remember it. That's ever happened? Is the
Speaker 1: reason why you don't remember it. You can't get into
Speaker 1: it on this podcast. Say that for the Extracurricular Activities podcast.
Speaker 1: Marky got the lyrics for me. Well, there's multiple variations.
Speaker 1: It's money, that's what I want. That's only one part
Speaker 1: of that's a different song. You're actually upset? That is
Speaker 1: that's song? All right, get back to anymore. There's crash
Speaker 1: seen of the sekend. Yeah, give him some lasers to
Speaker 1: wake him up from all right? Phil Trevor's ten yard
Speaker 1: touchdown past the Melvin Gordon and yeah that was Matt
Speaker 1: money Smith and the Chargers radio network. Was the difference
Speaker 1: is the Los Angeles Chargers got out of the Meadow
Speaker 1: Ends with a win over the Giants in a battle
Speaker 1: of two winless teams. The real story here, uh was
Speaker 1: a wave of injuries the Giants pass catchers, most notably
Speaker 1: Odell Beckham Jr. Who broke his ankle late in the game. Uh.
Speaker 1: And it certainly looks like it could be a season
Speaker 1: ending injury. Uh. It makes the five Giants suddenly a
Speaker 1: very real contender for the first pick in the draft.
Speaker 1: And I crazy, Mark not at all. I mean, we
Speaker 1: look at the New York Giants and it's like, what
Speaker 1: suddenly is going to bloom with this team? That's going
Speaker 1: to be any different, Nate. It's the same stuff to
Speaker 1: plague them last year and now I mean today forced
Speaker 1: to finish the game essentially with not just Odell Beckham,
Speaker 1: but their entire receive crew stripped off the field. And
Speaker 1: the strangest thing for me was actually kind of ran
Speaker 1: the ball well, which I guess the Chargers have allowed
Speaker 1: that to happen multiple weeks. But if you're gonna lose
Speaker 1: Odell Beckham, it's terrible for the Giants fans, I guess,
Speaker 1: but this is the year to do it. There's no
Speaker 1: hope for this team. They're dead team. Well, they're tough
Speaker 1: to watch. What's a terrible time for Odell Beckham. I mean,
Speaker 1: you never would want to have a season ending injury,
Speaker 1: and he was obviously emotional, but I watched him getting
Speaker 1: carded off and I thought, well, this is why players
Speaker 1: hold out, or this is the argument to hold out
Speaker 1: because he everyone you know patted him on the back.
Speaker 1: He wants to be the highest paid player in the
Speaker 1: league for showing up on time, and this is the
Speaker 1: risk that you take. It was an absolute nightmare season.
Speaker 1: He's under contract next year for eight point seven million dollars.
Speaker 1: He's you know, he's the most paid receiver this year.
Speaker 1: And maybe they'll they'll all figure that out over time
Speaker 1: and that that'll be fine. But it's a huge setback.
Speaker 1: It's a it's a good segue for me to give
Speaker 1: you the actual lyrics podcast money, get a you get
Speaker 1: a good job with more pay, and you're okay, commercial well,
Speaker 1: money it's a gas. Then it goes on and on.
Speaker 1: I remember I was in a public great album. It's
Speaker 1: like a public speaking course, and uh, this kid got
Speaker 1: called up and he was like a total pothead and yeah,
Speaker 1: this is in college. It was like a public speaking
Speaker 1: type course and everyone had to give some type of
Speaker 1: dissertation dissertation and he got up there and he was like,
Speaker 1: all right, I want to talk about the meaning of
Speaker 1: money by Pink Floyd, and everybody's like But then on
Speaker 1: top of it, there was like three minutes before the
Speaker 1: end of the class. Uh, so everyone just wanted to
Speaker 1: go home and get a get a get off campus.
Speaker 1: And he first he's like, let's start by listening to
Speaker 1: the song and the songs like seven and a half
Speaker 1: minutes of the guy saying, so now, I was thinking,
Speaker 1: that guy, well, it sinks up to the Wizard of Oz.
Speaker 1: Can I tell a college story? Sure? You know how
Speaker 1: like when you're you're like eighteen or nineteen, your first
Speaker 1: going to college, there's always that one guy in class
Speaker 1: who's yeah, And I was to tell truth. I was
Speaker 1: that guy in several different very ations of schools. But
Speaker 1: the twenty eight year old guy always has like stories
Speaker 1: he wants to tell the whole class because he's around
Speaker 1: the fire, his world, weary in it. This guy I
Speaker 1: was in like four classes with him, and on the
Speaker 1: first Dankol he told the same story in all four cars,
Speaker 1: and it was this, do you know why three dog
Speaker 1: night is called three dog night brutal? Because that's how
Speaker 1: they measure how cool it is in Alaska by how
Speaker 1: many dogs you have to sleep with? And he told
Speaker 1: that story in four straight classes. Why was he I'm
Speaker 1: I'm bathful? He was given such a forum by the
Speaker 1: I mean if you then again, if you've got an
Speaker 1: opener like that, you know that's going to help you
Speaker 1: with the ladies, you gotta use it everywhere. He was
Speaker 1: like the comic book store guy in the Simpsons. I'm
Speaker 1: not sure there was a foreign perpoted. He just needed
Speaker 1: to get that out. Hey, ladies, look at us. We've
Speaker 1: slept in a cold Alaska with multiple dogs in one night.
Speaker 1: That's gonna that's gonna magnetize the college females. I think
Speaker 1: this guy did any camping of his own. Was familiar
Speaker 1: with the story. Actually had a twenty eight year old
Speaker 1: college kid like randomly roomed with me. Uh when I
Speaker 1: first got to Northeastern in Boston, and we were listening
Speaker 1: to the Beatles one night and he's like, and we're
Speaker 1: listening to the White Album and Dear Prudence came on.
Speaker 1: He's like, Yeah, that's the name my ex girlfriend. And
Speaker 1: it was so clearly a lie. And we always used
Speaker 1: to make fun of him behind his back, and it's like,
Speaker 1: you definitely never had a girlfriend, and if you did,
Speaker 1: her name was not Prudence. Bro alright, back to the game, anyway,
Speaker 1: this is what you've done to us. Giant season. Beckham
Speaker 1: had a total law season. I remember being in the hospital. Uh,
Speaker 1: we were all together with West when he suffered the
Speaker 1: ankle injury, injury that cost him four weeks, and maybe
Speaker 1: he was never even quite right to this point because
Speaker 1: he hadn't had like a true Odell start to the season,
Speaker 1: his game where it finally looked like maybe he was
Speaker 1: on his way, and now he has this. So the
Speaker 1: Chargers get their win. Congratulations to the Charges the Giants.
Speaker 1: Who knows where this Giant season heads and what happens
Speaker 1: with the quarterback with the GM with the head coach,
Speaker 1: all bets are off. I think Beckham could be returning
Speaker 1: to a different head coach and potentially a different franchise
Speaker 1: order back. I mean I and Rappaport said the opposite
Speaker 1: this morning, and it was not based on today's winner
Speaker 1: loss that the Giants, which are a very sturdy franchise,
Speaker 1: that they aren't gonna make any rash decisions. But you
Speaker 1: have to ask if there's another two months of this changing,
Speaker 1: because when you take Beckham out of the mix, and
Speaker 1: Eli already might be a diminished player and everything else
Speaker 1: that's wrong with that team, this thing can get real ugly. Day.
Speaker 1: It's not hard to imagine that Giants ownership but want
Speaker 1: a head coach who can do more than draw up
Speaker 1: a slant route and and comb his hair back and
Speaker 1: just put a little yeah, I mean, if I'm a
Speaker 1: Giants fan, this is gonna be a tough season. But
Speaker 1: I am. I am fine with the idea of getting
Speaker 1: a top one or two pick and finding the successor
Speaker 1: to Eli. And one last quick note if you're the Chargers.
Speaker 1: Not out of the woods either the Raiders, Broncos and
Speaker 1: Patriots next, but first franchise victory for the l A Chargers,
Speaker 1: So congratulations guys. All right, let's move on my annual
Speaker 1: sets of the gun. Thanks the snap. A little dump
Speaker 1: pass to us. Tight end Jared Cook fumbles a ball
Speaker 1: light its recover well, picks it up. He's in the
Speaker 1: thirty nobody in front of him. Ten five touchdown, eric
Speaker 1: O Waddle, Jerry Sandoski w b a L. Jimmy Smiths
Speaker 1: forty seven yard fumbled return gave his team an early
Speaker 1: two score lead and the Ravens never looked back. In
Speaker 1: the thirties to seventeen win over the Oakland Raiders, who
Speaker 1: were playing, of course, without the injured Marveloust Derek Carr Mark.
Speaker 1: Even without car this was a nice road victory for
Speaker 1: the Ravens, who are one of the most difficult teams
Speaker 1: to get a handle on so far this season. Well,
Speaker 1: it helps when you play a Raiders team that I
Speaker 1: don't know. I can't remember a game under this regime
Speaker 1: where they looked this flat. And yes, it's because Cars
Speaker 1: out on some level, although they looked troubled on offense
Speaker 1: with car in there, let's not make any mistakes about that.
Speaker 1: Well week three and four, in weeks three and four,
Speaker 1: but that's it's not a new thing, and it's not
Speaker 1: simply an E. J. Manuel who is you know? He
Speaker 1: he was not a disaster. He did nothing to really
Speaker 1: help them either other than throw one or two good passes,
Speaker 1: had to scramble that set up at touchdown late when
Speaker 1: things were out of hand. To some degree, this the
Speaker 1: difference for Baltimore in this game. They haven't had this
Speaker 1: all year, I don't think, is that Joe Flacco was
Speaker 1: well protected and they had a deep element to their
Speaker 1: passing game. Mike Wallace had two catches of fifty plus
Speaker 1: yards that set up ten points and helped put this
Speaker 1: game away pretty early. And I think that again, Alex
Speaker 1: Collins ran the ball well, Buck Allen ran the ball well,
Speaker 1: and so they did enough to make this game never
Speaker 1: really competitive. Was a fourteen nothing lead and there was
Speaker 1: never a moment where you thought the Ravens are gonna
Speaker 1: or the Raiders are gonna climb back into this. I'd
Speaker 1: be very concerned right now if I'm a Raiders fan.
Speaker 1: You're two and three and the team again looked incredibly flat.
Speaker 1: Not only that, but you are in a division with
Speaker 1: the Chiefs and Broncos, which gives you very little margin
Speaker 1: for air. Yep. And and in theory one of your
Speaker 1: best players that you've had a Marii Cooper in a
Speaker 1: long long time. It is another super concerning It's not
Speaker 1: just the box score. One catch for eight yards off
Speaker 1: two targets not a part of this offense right now.
Speaker 1: He's been a part in weeks past in terms of
Speaker 1: getting tire. It's and it's killing them. I mean they've
Speaker 1: thrown the ball to him, I think thirty something times
Speaker 1: for a hundred yards this year. He has seven drops
Speaker 1: and I counted four or five and went back and
Speaker 1: looked at his place, four or five miscommunications where after
Speaker 1: the play, Derek Carr looks at Cooper with basically a
Speaker 1: what's up with that? Bro? Like? Why did you do that? Man?
Speaker 1: And and you just you expect him to kind of
Speaker 1: be that number one receiver, and he's clearly not right now.
Speaker 1: I always wonder what do you what do you do
Speaker 1: with with information like this? Like what what a Mari
Speaker 1: Cooper is putting out. It's like Todd Gurley the last
Speaker 1: year and a half before this year. You know he's talented,
Speaker 1: you know he could play. So what's going on? And
Speaker 1: when will we see that guy ever again? That the
Speaker 1: drops thing you would think can go away. I mean
Speaker 1: the rate of his drops maybe is in his head.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's pretty outrageous that he's dropping more catches
Speaker 1: than he's catching this year, that you would think that's
Speaker 1: impossible to keep up. I think the Raiders will figure
Speaker 1: it out eventually, especially you know, when they get the
Speaker 1: quarterback back. But you guys are bright. The the divisions
Speaker 1: going by by I think between the fact that they're
Speaker 1: in this funk and the quarterbacks out for who knows
Speaker 1: how much longer. But they can't they can't lose too
Speaker 1: many more games. They can't put themselves in too deep
Speaker 1: a hole. Um, all right, let's move on to another
Speaker 1: barn Burner, an Indie. It's there. Adams kick is all
Speaker 1: the way, It looks good, looks could but a minute
Speaker 1: thirty and overtime Adam Cherry, Bob Blamey w h l
Speaker 1: K with the call Marlon max thirty five yard run
Speaker 1: and overtime set up Adam Vintieri's fifty one yard field
Speaker 1: goal as the Colts escaped with a win over the
Speaker 1: winless forty Niners in overtime. It was Peyton Manning Day
Speaker 1: at Lucas Oil Stadium. Greg, we have no idea how
Speaker 1: much longer the Colts will be without Andrew Luck. Taking
Speaker 1: care of business and winnable games like these is essential.
Speaker 1: It's huge because it gives Luck a chance to keep
Speaker 1: this team relevant, which I didn't think we expected going
Speaker 1: into the season. So if they could, I don't know
Speaker 1: when Luck is going to be back, but just if
Speaker 1: they're two and four or they're three and four, something
Speaker 1: like that. The fact that Jake Briskett, our guy, kept
Speaker 1: him in the mix. Jake, it's kind of matter. And Uh,
Speaker 1: normally I would kill a coach for setting up a
Speaker 1: fifty one yard field goal to win the game in overtime.
Speaker 1: The last play before that was a run up the middle.
Speaker 1: But Adam Veny tery just another moment boy Hall of
Speaker 1: Fame career. He had had a great game before that,
Speaker 1: and Jake Briskett had thrown a killer interception earlier in
Speaker 1: overtime on the goal line, so I can't blame Pogano
Speaker 1: too much for that. Another nice moment for Vinitary forty
Speaker 1: four years old. It's outrageous that he's still doing it.
Speaker 1: Colts really concerned me even against when they when they
Speaker 1: scratched by against Cleveland. Their fourth quarter operation the house
Speaker 1: seems to caven kind of over and over on the Colts,
Speaker 1: and it feels like coaching to me on some level.
Speaker 1: But yeah, they had a two touchdown lead over a
Speaker 1: team that had literally not scored a touchdown in I
Speaker 1: think four games worth on Sundays. They had the Thursday
Speaker 1: night game where they scored a lot, and other than that,
Speaker 1: they had not scored an offensive touchdown this season other
Speaker 1: than that Rams game. And then they finally got to
Speaker 1: go in late, but it wasn't quite I am intrigued
Speaker 1: by this Marlon mack Gentleman and the touch that big
Speaker 1: run that I mentioned. This is the team I was.
Speaker 1: We identified this and I'm sure the Cults have internally
Speaker 1: as well before the season that Frank Gore is not
Speaker 1: going to be there forever and West. Mac definitely seems
Speaker 1: to be a guy that can change things up and
Speaker 1: add a little dimension to their offense. Well. I think
Speaker 1: the book coming out out of college was he he
Speaker 1: had a lot of big playability, and we have seen
Speaker 1: that going back to their season opener. Uh, he should
Speaker 1: play more at Frank Gore's expense, even though Greg would
Speaker 1: not like that. But I kinda loves him too. Pagano
Speaker 1: has been talking him up since since early training. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't think they quite trust him on passing downs
Speaker 1: all the time. But he won them this game. I mean,
Speaker 1: they're there. One of their first half touchdowns was set
Speaker 1: up by a nice long, kind of vintage catching run
Speaker 1: by Frank Gore where he ran through a couple of
Speaker 1: people made the miss. He was their second leading receiver today,
Speaker 1: Frank Gore. And then right after that Mac hits him
Speaker 1: with a long touchdown run and he had the big
Speaker 1: running overtime. And he other than t Y Hilton, who
Speaker 1: has been great the last weeks, he's the only explosive
Speaker 1: part of their office. They got up to get him
Speaker 1: on the field. I mean Hilton a hundred and fifty
Speaker 1: three yards against the Browns two weeks ago, a hundred
Speaker 1: and seventies seven. Those were the eight teen combined catches.
Speaker 1: He is having a fantastic seat, which some somewhat it's
Speaker 1: a kind of a litmus test for wide receivers. Some
Speaker 1: receivers disappear entirely when their quarterback gets hurt. Hilton is
Speaker 1: a guy that's talented enough that he's still getting open
Speaker 1: and he has a quarterback that could get it to him.
Speaker 1: I love Jake Brisket. I love watching him play. I
Speaker 1: don't know if he's gonna be a superstar, but he's
Speaker 1: I don't know. He he makes you think of all
Speaker 1: the cliches that you hear about quarterbacks in terms of
Speaker 1: like his gut gutsy and grit and just just heady,
Speaker 1: and he's a fun guy to watch. He had a
Speaker 1: he had a terrible interception in this game, but other
Speaker 1: than that, he's playing so much better then I think
Speaker 1: anyone could have expected. Just another terrible move by the
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick was not holding onto a talent. That franchise
Speaker 1: is crumbling at the seams. All right, Let's move on
Speaker 1: to Sunday night football. Hill is back to accept it.
Speaker 1: Eight yard line avoids the first guy it's around the
Speaker 1: corner Domisian Lottie goes with blocking inside the thirty Tyreek hill.
Speaker 1: Sooner or later he'll pullish off fifty two yard kick
Speaker 1: and an eighty two yard return for the big play guy,
Speaker 1: Tyreek Hills. Eighty two yard punt return for a score
Speaker 1: was the dagger for the Kansas City Chiefs, who pour
Speaker 1: it on against the host Houston Texans at four, win
Speaker 1: for Casey, improving their record to a perfect five, and
Speaker 1: oh wow, the Chiefs continue to look good. And this
Speaker 1: was a game where there was a ton of injuries. Boys,
Speaker 1: none bigger Mark Selzler than J. J. Watt, who suffered
Speaker 1: a fracture in in the knee area, a season ending injury.
Speaker 1: So that the Texans fall to two and three and
Speaker 1: now they don't have their best player the rest of
Speaker 1: the way. A crushing loss, uh for the Texans. Beyond
Speaker 1: just this game, absolutely, I mean it changes everything that
Speaker 1: the Texans want to do and can do on defense.
Speaker 1: And at the same time, I mean, coming off of
Speaker 1: last week's insane victory over the Titans, these two teams
Speaker 1: put up what seventy six points or something, and I
Speaker 1: don't know, I think that the Texans even in there
Speaker 1: even in a losing efforts show how explosive they can be.
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson accounts for five touchdowns in a two point conversion. Yeah,
Speaker 1: a lot of that is after it felt like the
Speaker 1: game was over. It wasn't really through Deshaun Watson's fault.
Speaker 1: It was thirteen in the fourth quarter, and then it
Speaker 1: just started going back and forth. But I remember on
Speaker 1: this podcast talking about can we just get one season
Speaker 1: of Jadevian Clowney and j J Watt together and healthy
Speaker 1: and reckoned shop and what wasn't quite himself maybe the
Speaker 1: first week or two Clowney, it's slow start, and you
Speaker 1: started to see what they could be like together really
Speaker 1: the last two weeks, and then you know, the start
Speaker 1: of this game, and you just feel for for j. J.
Speaker 1: Watt to have that serious of a knee injury and
Speaker 1: we'll we'll find out more about it in the coming
Speaker 1: days on the heels of a completely different but grueling
Speaker 1: back injury that he missed the whole season. Four. This
Speaker 1: was a team Dan, you were all excited about, you know,
Speaker 1: kind of making a run in the a f C.
Speaker 1: And it made a lot of sense, like you were
Speaker 1: you were convincing me and to have this happened the
Speaker 1: very next week is such a downer, such a bummer.
Speaker 1: And I don't I don't think the Texans are done
Speaker 1: as long as Watson now was involved. I still would
Speaker 1: not be surprised if they won their division. Quite frankly,
Speaker 1: but without what it really takes away the difference difference maker,
Speaker 1: the Jenga piece to borrow Shrek is um defense and
Speaker 1: and and the Chiefs again they drop another forty burger
Speaker 1: on the team. And you wonder sometimes with these teams,
Speaker 1: if they if they if they peak too earlier, are
Speaker 1: they going to be the same type of dominant team
Speaker 1: once you get to January and you've got the Patriots
Speaker 1: rounding into form, which a lot of people think will
Speaker 1: eventually happen. But still, the Chiefs to me look like
Speaker 1: such a well rounded team. And forget about how the
Speaker 1: Texans got the thirty four, they got STYMI and most
Speaker 1: of this game. So again, this is another game where
Speaker 1: the Chiefs look great on offense, defense, and special teams.
Speaker 1: Uh Andy Reid's got a good team. I just don't
Speaker 1: look at the Chiefs. I forgot that's what I want
Speaker 1: after a twelve hour work day. Thank you, but I
Speaker 1: just still see the Chiefs as a team that kind
Speaker 1: of peeking right now. They're not peaking in a way
Speaker 1: that's like, oh they're gonna dangerously have the floor fall out.
Speaker 1: They're just extremely solid and all facets of the game.
Speaker 1: But it's not a point about the Chiefs, I was saying,
Speaker 1: and the return game had not done it until tonight.
Speaker 1: They explode on the return game. Yea. How about three
Speaker 1: Hill getting his fourth touchdown in what twenty games or
Speaker 1: something like that and day under the same coach, Dave
Speaker 1: Dave told but I believe it's pronounced who had Devin
Speaker 1: Hester start his career with eleven touchdowns in like twentysomething games.
Speaker 1: That's not a coincidence. That's one of the greatest great
Speaker 1: special teams coaching jobs of all time in two different places.
Speaker 1: But this was somewhat concerning win for the Chiefs just
Speaker 1: because of the injuries. Travis Kelsey got a concussion, Chris
Speaker 1: Conley had a tough to watch achilles injury at the
Speaker 1: very end of the game. About gross to watch, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean it was. It was disgusting, and you know,
Speaker 1: you would assume that's gonna be a serious injury. So
Speaker 1: they've had a lot of injuries. But I think what
Speaker 1: it showed was this isn't a team that's set up
Speaker 1: by Kareem Hunt so that Alex Smith can kind of
Speaker 1: take advantage of defenses. Kareem Hunt had twenty five yards
Speaker 1: on fourteen carries in the first half, and Alex Smith
Speaker 1: was going up and down the field with over two
Speaker 1: hundred yards a difference between them this year and last year,
Speaker 1: third and eighteen in this game in the second half,
Speaker 1: that's where you expect, Oh, let's make the throw the
Speaker 1: short of the sticks, jokes about Alex Smith. Instead, he
Speaker 1: throws a bomb down the field, a beautiful throat to
Speaker 1: the hill who gets a touchdown. That to me kind
Speaker 1: of was they spreading it to ten different guys. I mean,
Speaker 1: there's just so many different options for this Kansas City offense.
Speaker 1: All right, there you go. That is the Sunday Week
Speaker 1: five recap. One more game tomorrow to be played, of course,
Speaker 1: marked between the Vikings and Bears. You're getting better at
Speaker 1: this Monday last time I told you I was suddenly
Speaker 1: adrift on a different aspect of the internet tonight. That
Speaker 1: that's great. You know what's funny, by the way, when
Speaker 1: you know, and Erica is just seeing this now. But
Speaker 1: when you know you really got Mark a little bit annoyed.
Speaker 1: Is if say you hit him with an O Sunday
Speaker 1: Night Drop and then the eyes fire and then other
Speaker 1: people start reacting to that, and Mark just starts talking
Speaker 1: louder and can listen. Let me tell you something that
Speaker 1: is the most overrated I mean not even know who
Speaker 1: likes it, but the fact that it has the place
Speaker 1: it does in our in our culture right now, that's song.
Speaker 1: It is the most overrated song in all of Americans.
Speaker 1: But the bid is called the Bits you know Sunday.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just I'm not even sure what parts
Speaker 1: she's even playing in this overproduced folly of a song.
Speaker 1: I just like the fact that you called overrated as
Speaker 1: if there are people out there. I think people. I
Speaker 1: think a lot of people. I'm just saying it's been
Speaker 1: It's stature is we're gonna put it on this game
Speaker 1: that everyone's watching. It must someone somewhere thought it was
Speaker 1: a good production. We should mention by the way, Christopher
Speaker 1: Wesley left the studio before the end of that Sunday
Speaker 1: Night game, and so yeah, what a what a job
Speaker 1: he did. Another gutty performance by West who's you know,
Speaker 1: we're gonna hope to have him as much as as
Speaker 1: much as he's able to do uh in the coming
Speaker 1: weeks and months. But and as everyone knows that knows
Speaker 1: the show, it's always a better show when Chris Wesley
Speaker 1: is delivering his his take. So uh, yes, let's let's
Speaker 1: hope we see more of Wes in the coming for
Speaker 1: the rest of the season. Let's get out of here, now,
Speaker 1: got to get out of here. I didn't have the
Speaker 1: signing off four Quiet Storm, The Great Mailman, the Old Boss,
Speaker 1: and the Loose Cannon behind the Glass until Tuesday, m