1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:04,640 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. 3 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 2: Welcome everybody to the Monday edition of The Clay Travis 4 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:11,160 Speaker 2: and Buck Sexton Show. It kicks off right now. Thank 5 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 2: you so much for being here. As you know, Clay 6 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 2: on vacation. He's having a great time. Checked in with 7 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 2: him this morning. He'll be back with us on Friday. 8 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:23,480 Speaker 2: So it's just me for the next few days. Buck, 9 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 2: I will refrain from speaking again to the third person. 10 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 2: Thank you for being here as old and We've got 11 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 2: a lot of news stories. Honestly, today is one of 12 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:33,920 Speaker 2: these days we are stacked. I've also got some great 13 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 2: guests lined up. I'll tell you more about that in 14 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 2: a bit, though they're in the second and third hours. 15 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 3: You have. 16 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 2: Ukraine says that it hit dozens of Russian bombers in 17 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 2: a really sophisticated drone attack. I'll take you through some 18 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 2: of that. People are calling this Ukraine's Hesbala Pager moment. 19 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 2: Not sure it's well, Actually it is pretty I was 20 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 2: gonna say it's not quite as sophisticated, but it's pretty close. 21 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 2: It was a spectacular attack in the sense of caught 22 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 2: the Russians very much by surprise, a lot of damage 23 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 2: done and of military targeting. We shall discuss that we've 24 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 2: got the champion, this young man, and this is gonna 25 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 2: be tough, but we have to just speak about this. 26 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 2: But heck, she's not tough. I was gonna say, we'll 27 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 2: just speak about this the way that we should, because 28 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:29,680 Speaker 2: it's what is factual. A young man has won the 29 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 2: California track state championship for women. And there was a 30 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:38,319 Speaker 2: clip I'm going to walk you through this, a clip 31 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 2: on CNN or a segment on CNN where a a 32 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 2: attorney and the president of the California Justice Center, Julie Hammill, 33 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 2: goes through piece by piece with a CNN anchor who 34 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 2: is effectively delusional, I mean, calling this person her and 35 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 2: she and what about her feelings and all this stuff 36 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 2: for the biological male who just beat all the girls 37 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 2: in California in track. And this is a violation of 38 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 2: federal law, this is a violation of common sense. And 39 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 2: when you hear this exchange, I think you will find 40 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:20,080 Speaker 2: it is remarkably illuminating about how the left is not 41 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 2: backing down on this stuff. And the left is insane. 42 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 2: They have not moved away from this issue, So we 43 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:30,360 Speaker 2: shall dive into that. But you know, first up, I 44 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:35,519 Speaker 2: just finished watching a few moments ago they were talking 45 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 2: about a major ICE operation underway. Major ICE operation underway, 46 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 2: or rather it's still underway, but they've had initial results 47 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 2: in fifteen hundred high value target criminal aliens who are 48 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 2: in the country. Now, I remember, these aren't just people 49 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:55,919 Speaker 2: who are here illegally. These are people who are here 50 00:02:55,960 --> 00:03:01,680 Speaker 2: illegally and do bad things and break the law and 51 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 2: pray on their on Americans and their fellow human beings. 52 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:11,080 Speaker 2: So these are the top priorities that exist out there 53 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 2: for enforcements. When it comes to immigration and deportation operations. 54 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 2: They call that Operation Patriot. They had to think somebody 55 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 2: from the ICE office in Boston talking about this, but 56 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 2: this is absolutely essential. One of the things that I 57 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 2: love about this administration is they aren't just stopping the 58 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 2: crazy stuff that the other side, or rather refraining from 59 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 2: doing the same crazy stuff that the Democrats were doing. Yes, 60 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 2: that's an improvement, but they're also saying, hold on a second, 61 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 2: that's illegal. We're not going to allow you. We're going 62 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 2: to stop you from doing the crazy things, whether it's 63 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 2: the transgender you know, men and women's sports stuff, or 64 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 2: now this sanctuary city complete, you know, forgetting about the 65 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 2: rule of low stuff on immigration and the reasons for this. 66 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 2: Or rather we got a reminder of how important this 67 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 2: is with this attack in Colorado that happens. Now, let 68 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:17,360 Speaker 2: me give you what the situation. What the situation is. 69 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 2: A guy went to this was in Boulder, Colorado on Sunday. 70 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 2: A guy yell's free Palestine and threw incendiary devices into 71 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:35,039 Speaker 2: this crowd. In Boulder, Colorado, there was a demonstration to 72 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 2: remember the Israeli hostages who remain in Gaza. So think 73 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 2: about this for a moment. There's a group of people 74 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 2: who have gotten together to just stand in solidarity with 75 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 2: and remind the public about the fact that there are 76 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 2: still hostages who are being held by Hamas, which I 77 00:04:55,880 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 2: would also remind everybody violation of Geneva Convention wor crime itself. 78 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 2: It's a decision that they have made. These are terrorists. 79 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 2: These are terrorists. They have hostages that are dying and 80 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:12,599 Speaker 2: that they've killed in their custody, and they have more 81 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 2: and they refuse to give them back because they are 82 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 2: terrorists and they are the enemies of civilization and do 83 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 2: not forget that Hamas is an enemy of civilization anywhere 84 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 2: in the world and should be treated as such. I 85 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 2: do not view Hamas as distinct or different from a 86 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 2: group like al Qaeda. I think that they share the 87 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 2: baseline ideology that makes them as vicious as they are, 88 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:37,160 Speaker 2: and why they it is as necessary as it is 89 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 2: to meet them on the battlefield and to destroy them. 90 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:42,480 Speaker 2: That's how I view Hamas. I don't want to sit 91 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:44,360 Speaker 2: around and talk about, Oh, maybe there's some future where 92 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 2: Hamas is not going to be so crazy anyway. So 93 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 2: there's this demonstration taking place in Boulder, Colorado for Israeli hostages, 94 00:05:54,960 --> 00:06:00,839 Speaker 2: and this lunatic runs up to them, and you had 95 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:03,600 Speaker 2: eight people who are transport of the hospital. He threw 96 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:08,039 Speaker 2: in sandiary devices I assume something like a like a 97 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 2: Molotov cocktail, some sort of incendiary device like that, and 98 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 2: people were burned and they had to be taken directly 99 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:20,719 Speaker 2: to the hospital as a result. Yeah, that burns on 100 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 2: their legs, badly burned on most of her. One of 101 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 2: them appear to be badly burned on most of her body, 102 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 2: wrapped in a flag by a bystander. Horrific trying to 103 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 2: lighting people on fire. That's what this meaning. I did 104 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 2: he lit people on fire at a Let's remember the hostages. 105 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:42,240 Speaker 2: Think about the psychological damage that these hostages and their 106 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:46,479 Speaker 2: families are still going through. Any day, some savage from 107 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 2: Hamasque could execute them. If it's a woman in custody. 108 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 2: We know what they've been doing to women in custody. 109 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 2: I mean, these people are barbarians. Barbarians, and there is 110 00:06:55,720 --> 00:07:00,479 Speaker 2: a gathering of those who want to remind all of 111 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 2: us of what's going on here. You know, the pro Hamas, 112 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 2: pro Gaza Free Palestine maniacs that are out there. They 113 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 2: hate talk of the hostages because what they really want 114 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 2: is this pretense that they have the moral high ground. 115 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 2: There's a genocide in Gaza, maybe the quote unquote genocide. 116 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 2: It is not a genocide, but maybe what they call 117 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 2: genocide would stop if Hamas would just give back the 118 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 2: hostages that it has in its and it could do 119 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 2: so tomorrow, it could have done so at any point 120 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 2: since it started this war. And Hamas did start this war, 121 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 2: as we know with October seventh. So that brings me 122 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 2: to this individual, who it turns out was here on 123 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 2: a tourist visa. Fox News was the first that I 124 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 2: saw reported this. It was authorized to stay till February 125 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 2: twenty twenty three, stayed in the country illegally, applied for asylum, 126 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 2: received a work permit which was valid through March of 127 00:07:57,080 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 2: twenty twenty five. Stayed in the country illegally. That's something 128 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 2: that we have to remind ourselves of here. So we 129 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 2: just suffered a terrorist attack from an illegal That's what happened. 130 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 2: That's not the way that the here you go, here 131 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 2: you go. Here's how Reuters, here's how Routers covers this. 132 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 2: I just told you what really happened. And illegal who 133 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 2: yelled free Palestine and lit people on fire, engaged in 134 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 2: a anti Semitic terrorist attack on US soil. And he was 135 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 2: only here because he had evaded our immigration laws. You know, 136 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 2: Trump has been talking about this all along. Yet another 137 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 2: moment where you say, oh wow, Trump is right that 138 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 2: we have risks. We have risks to our security that 139 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:54,680 Speaker 2: come from these individuals, that come from these individuals who 140 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 2: enter illegally or stay illegally after legal entry, which is 141 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:01,679 Speaker 2: the case here, and that is is unacceptable and one 142 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:03,440 Speaker 2: of the reasons they're such a risk. It's not just 143 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 2: that they break the law. We don't know who they are. 144 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 2: They are effectively off radar. Once they stay beyond they're 145 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 2: allowed time, or once they enter illegally, we don't know 146 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 2: what they're up to. We don't know what they're doing. 147 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 2: And now you have people who had to be rushed 148 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 2: to the hospital after being lit on fire at a 149 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:26,959 Speaker 2: peaceful vigil for hostages because some illegal alien maniac was 150 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 2: in the country. Suspect named as Mohammed Saliman. Yeah, that's 151 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 2: the suspect's name. So eight people injured in this in 152 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 2: illegal engage in a terrorist attack. A reminder of why 153 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:46,559 Speaker 2: it is so important and so urgent to get criminal 154 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 2: illegals out of this country as quickly as possible, because 155 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 2: we've allowed a lot of maniacs like this one to 156 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 2: come into the country. And you could say, oh, what 157 00:09:56,800 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 2: they always do is they try to get you to 158 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 2: focus on the people that just want a better life 159 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 2: for themselves, and well, the problem is we can't just 160 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 2: allow people who want a better life for themselves to 161 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 2: come into the country at will, because then this country 162 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 2: would cease to exist. We can't handle it. It wouldn't be 163 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 2: America anymore, it would be something else. And Democrats want 164 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:17,440 Speaker 2: to turn it into that as quickly as they can, 165 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:20,720 Speaker 2: and there's a whole bunch of reasons why we can 166 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 2: get to the psychology behind that. But in the meantime, 167 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 2: we are here saying, and the Trump administration is saying 168 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 2: enough enough. Eight people lit on fire at a protest 169 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 2: by this maniac. It's appalling, and it shows you how 170 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 2: critical it is that Trump's work and the administration's work 171 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 2: continues on this. And then you have the true imbeciles 172 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 2: over places like CNN, where I used to be a 173 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 2: terrorism analyst and I was always right, you know my room. 174 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 2: My record was for saying, this is jihadis terrorism, and 175 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:57,959 Speaker 2: it turned out to be a gehadas terrorism one hundred percent. 176 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 2: In fact, they had people that they brought on TV. 177 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 2: This is a true story. They brought me on TV 178 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 2: once at CNN to analyze terror attack because I had 179 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 2: worked at a little place called the CIA Kunter Terrorism Center. 180 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:14,080 Speaker 2: And they actually brought on some other expert to disagree 181 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 2: with me. I don't remember, you know, some academic or something, 182 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:19,560 Speaker 2: and it came out while we were on the air. 183 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 2: That's true, came out while we were on the air 184 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 2: that yeah, no, Actually there was like a jihad manifesto 185 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:26,319 Speaker 2: and GI the whole thing. But they don't care. The 186 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 2: point is they want to feel good about themselves for 187 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:33,680 Speaker 2: thinking this isn't a Muslim jie hottist thing, this is 188 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 2: some other thing. I don't want to jump to conclusions. 189 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:40,080 Speaker 2: We may never know the motive. We may never know 190 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:44,720 Speaker 2: the motive. Here's former FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe and 191 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 2: Harvard professor Juliet Kayem. She's a true she was the 192 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:48,679 Speaker 2: one I was talking about last week. I't to tell 193 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 2: you that she's a true imbecile. Shechs at Harvard imbecile. 194 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 2: Here they are. This is them on the CNN panel 195 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:55,199 Speaker 2: after this attack, play seven. 196 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 4: It's hard to imagine that the FBI has more or 197 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 4: better information at this point to kind of rush out 198 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 4: with the conclusion within like ten minutes after we all 199 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 4: started hearing about this, that it's a targeted active ERA 200 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 4: may very well be, but most of the time you 201 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:14,840 Speaker 4: try to be very careful about attaching that label to 202 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 4: an attack until you have solid evidence that indicates a 203 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 4: motive that would qualify as terrorism, like an act intended 204 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 4: to intimidate a population or to change the direction of government. 205 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 5: It's not good for the community. It's not good for 206 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 5: the potentially targeted community. It makes law enforcement look disorganized, 207 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:36,960 Speaker 5: and it makes the FBI look so juvenile, like, why 208 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:39,960 Speaker 5: are you getting ahead of the police chief? 209 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 6: A Muslim guy who's an illegal alien through a molotov 210 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:49,680 Speaker 6: cocktail at a bunch of Jews at a free the 211 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 6: hostages protest, and he yelled, free Palestine. 212 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 2: I think we know what's going on here, right, I 213 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 2: think we all understand why this guy did what he did. 214 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 2: And yet they go on CNN and they say this 215 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:13,200 Speaker 2: because part of the mandate of the left, part of 216 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:16,440 Speaker 2: the mandate of the Democrat Party these days, is to 217 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 2: continue to continue trying to help these Democrats live in 218 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 2: an alternate universe because they're so wrong on so many things, 219 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:28,959 Speaker 2: and it's becoming more and more apparent with every day, 220 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 2: and the Trump administration is exposing the truth and taking 221 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:37,200 Speaker 2: action in ways that it becomes unavoidable for them to 222 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 2: have to start to look at this. So this is 223 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 2: like their fantasy escapism of well, we may never really 224 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 2: know gee, kind of like how I knew and Clay 225 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 2: knew that Biden had dementia, kind of like how we 226 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 2: knew that the Trans manifesto was going to talk about 227 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:54,320 Speaker 2: how the trans terrorist in Nashville was a maniac who 228 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 2: hated Christians and Conservatives and it was terrorism. And they're like, 229 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 2: we don't know, we have to way the of course 230 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 2: we know, of course we know. But it is better 231 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:08,840 Speaker 2: in the democrat mind to be told something so stupid, 232 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:11,720 Speaker 2: such as we can't know you know, the real motive, 233 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 2: or we don't know the free Palestine guy who was 234 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 2: throwing the incendiary devices at the Jews yelling free Palestine, 235 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 2: and we don't know what's going on there. They would 236 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 2: rather be told that than you are on the side 237 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 2: of evil and you've been wrong on everything. That's really 238 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 2: what's going on here. They'd rather be talked to you 239 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 2: like complete idiots than have to face the reality of 240 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 2: you're on the wrong side. You're on the Hamas side, 241 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 2: you're on the Jihad side, you're on the enemies of civilization. 242 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 2: Team Libs. Wise up. They don't want to hear that. 243 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 2: Now's a good time to talk to you about the 244 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 2: International Fellowship of Christians and Jews, talk about the allies 245 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 2: of civilization. Those who are fighting for civilization are brothers 246 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 2: and sisters in Israel, as we know there was this 247 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 2: horrifying attack and older Colorado shows just how clear the 248 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 2: antisemitism is and how it can be lethally even in 249 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 2: this country. And one of the eight people injured was 250 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 2: an eighty eight year old Holocaust survivor. If you're helpless, 251 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 2: or rather you feel helpless about what's happening around this country, 252 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 2: you're not helpless, and this is what IFCJ can do. 253 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 2: They're here to show our support for our brothers and 254 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 2: sisters in Israel. That is the goal, that is the 255 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 2: mission of the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews. The 256 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 2: IFCJ builds bomb shelters, fortifies ambulances and emergency vehicles, donates 257 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 2: flak jackets and other essential items. They are on the 258 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 2: front lines, and they're also feeding elderly Holocaust survivors who 259 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 2: have no one else to care for them. When you 260 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 2: give a gift of forty five dollars to IFCJ, you're 261 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 2: putting faith into action right where it's needed most. 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Now, Julia, appreciate 282 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 2: you making the time. 283 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 3: Thank you so much for having me now for first. 284 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 2: Off, before we get into the exchange you had on CNN, 285 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 2: which we did. I don't know if you know or 286 00:16:57,000 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 2: if you were able to listen in before, but we 287 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 2: did play a good more than half of it, I'd 288 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 2: say on the air, I watched it and it was 289 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 2: just it was astonishing, but also I guess I expect it. 290 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 2: So we'll get to that in a second. But can 291 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 2: you just from the legal perspective, tell everybody, we know 292 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:16,680 Speaker 2: this story about Aby Hernandez biological male competing against women, 293 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:20,240 Speaker 2: We know this stuff. What is the legal what is 294 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:22,920 Speaker 2: legally at issue here? How does Title nine come into play? 295 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:26,159 Speaker 2: What is Gavin Newsom of California doing? What's happening on 296 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:26,920 Speaker 2: the legal front? 297 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:32,920 Speaker 3: Well, long story short. Title nine has been a federal 298 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 3: statute since nineteen seventy two, and it's very simple. It 299 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 3: is sex based protections for you can't discriminate against girls 300 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 3: and women in educational programs, including sports, and so there's 301 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:52,160 Speaker 3: supposed to be equal opportunity for women and girls in 302 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 3: educational programs including sports. California, back in twenty thirteen past 303 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:01,760 Speaker 3: this law AB twelve sixty six, which is now Education 304 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 3: Code Section to twenty one point five s that says 305 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 3: schools must allow students to use the facilities and play 306 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 3: on a sports team that aligns with their gender identity 307 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:19,119 Speaker 3: instead of sex. So that essentially turns Title nine on 308 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 3: its head, and we've had that in place for over 309 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:27,440 Speaker 3: a decade in California. Now it mirrors almost identically Biden's 310 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 3: Title nine rule that he put in place in twenty 311 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 3: twenty four that was enjoined by a number of federal 312 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 3: district courts. So those courts said in their decisions, you 313 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 3: cannot create a regulation or a rule that completely flies 314 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:46,440 Speaker 3: in the face of what the statute says. This completely 315 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:49,359 Speaker 3: subverts Title nine. It does the opposite of what Title 316 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 3: nine was supposed to do by allowing males into the 317 00:18:53,840 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 3: female spaces, into female sports, into female academic programs. Nonsense. 318 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:05,640 Speaker 3: Any thinking, sane human being can recognize it immediately, which 319 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:08,919 Speaker 3: is why I'm frankly shocked that this interview is getting 320 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 3: so much attention because it was simply it's just common sense. 321 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:16,960 Speaker 3: I was only saying things that most of America is thinking. 322 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:19,159 Speaker 1: And what that is. 323 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:22,440 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, it went. It went super viral, I think 324 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 2: for the reason that, and I'm glad that it did, 325 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:28,920 Speaker 2: Julie over the weekend, because you are just you are 326 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 2: just saying in a very calm tone, and everyone heard it. 327 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:34,880 Speaker 2: We played it. Here's the reality, and the CNN anchor 328 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 2: has this almost like otherworldly detached But what about people 329 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 2: who are assigned female at birth who uses this kind 330 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:48,360 Speaker 2: of language, Like, you know, we just had Mother's Day recently. 331 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:52,440 Speaker 2: You know, this is like the birthing people's day phenomenon 332 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:54,879 Speaker 2: that we've heard. Like, no normal person thinks that this 333 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 2: should be normal. And let me ask you this taking 334 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:03,880 Speaker 2: California's policy due to its logical conclusion. Let's say I 335 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 2: was an employee in the state of California and I 336 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:11,120 Speaker 2: wanted to claim discrimination as a woman because I say 337 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 2: that I identify as a woman. On what grounds could 338 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 2: California tell me that I couldn't sue for sex based 339 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:18,639 Speaker 2: discrimination against me as a woman? 340 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:19,119 Speaker 3: Like? 341 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:23,200 Speaker 2: How do how is it legally codified what you identify as? 342 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 3: It is actually legally codified. It's freaking nonsense. So we 343 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:33,359 Speaker 3: in addition to AB twelve sixty six, we also have 344 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:38,159 Speaker 3: the unru Civil Rights Act, which defines discrimination based on 345 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:42,440 Speaker 3: gender identity as a violation of California civil rights law. 346 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:45,240 Speaker 3: So it's not just in schools, it's not just adults, 347 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 3: it's not just children, it's also adults. In California has 348 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:57,440 Speaker 3: literally legislated gender ideology into statute, which is so absolutely nuts. 349 00:20:57,600 --> 00:21:01,119 Speaker 3: I don't think people really understand the consequences of what 350 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 3: has been done here. 351 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:04,680 Speaker 2: Well, well, then to take me through this, because yeah, 352 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:06,159 Speaker 2: that is so nuts. I didn't even know that they 353 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:10,480 Speaker 2: had done that. How how do you qualify as identifying 354 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 2: as a different gender? What has to be done? Because 355 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:16,560 Speaker 2: it can't be sex change operation because that's actually only 356 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 2: a you know, a pretty small percentage of of these individuals. 357 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 3: It's a feeling. It's a feeling. Do you feel like 358 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 3: a woman today? You're a woman's? 359 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 2: Well, so then I'm right. So then I could I 360 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:31,680 Speaker 2: could say I feel like a woman. I can't believe 361 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 2: saying it's out loud, and I think I'm being discriminated 362 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:37,880 Speaker 2: against in my California job as a woman, and I'm 363 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:40,199 Speaker 2: suing and they would have to try to prove that 364 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 2: I'm not actually a woman. 365 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:47,800 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, that's an absolute bonkers nonsense. 366 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 2: I you know, I said, what is now the next 367 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:53,399 Speaker 2: step on this? 368 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 3: Right? 369 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:57,159 Speaker 2: Because I think the sit down that you had or 370 00:21:57,200 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 2: the conversation you had on CNN was very uh illuminating. 371 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 2: I mean also just things like we need more study 372 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:06,960 Speaker 2: to see if biological males have an advantage in sports. 373 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 2: This is this is like members of the Communist Party, 374 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 2: or maybe even just like everyday people within the Soviet 375 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:18,160 Speaker 2: Union saying, yes, we're all starving, but the grain harvest 376 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:20,240 Speaker 2: this year was the best grain harvest in history. Like 377 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:24,119 Speaker 2: this is that level of crazy because we all know that. 378 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:28,360 Speaker 2: Obviously the basis of men and women having segregated sports 379 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 2: is that it wouldn't be fair if they didn't, right, 380 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:33,639 Speaker 2: That's otherwise we would just have you know, men and 381 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:35,640 Speaker 2: women right can apply to work in an investment bank, 382 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 2: we don't have the men the men position the women position. 383 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 2: It's different in sports because of the physical differences. So 384 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 2: are you are you going to bring suit? Is this 385 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 2: going to get up to appeals? Is this going to 386 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:47,480 Speaker 2: go to Scotus? Like what happens now? 387 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:52,399 Speaker 3: So there are lawsuits pending right now. The Advocates for 388 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 3: Faith and Freedom group out of San Diego filed a 389 00:22:55,680 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 3: lawsuit that is pending in the Central District right now. 390 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 3: Our US Attorney Bill as Saley has filed a statement 391 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 3: of interest, and so the government is getting involved in 392 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 3: that one. That is challenging EBE twelve sixty six. I 393 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 3: hope it goes to SCOTUS. In the meantime, though, the 394 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:17,479 Speaker 3: Trump administration is very much motivated and acting very quickly 395 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 3: here and they are coming in with the full way 396 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:23,199 Speaker 3: of the Department of Justice, and I believe that we 397 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:26,400 Speaker 3: will see results soon hopefully. 398 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 2: Well, what do you think about the pulling because this 399 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:32,240 Speaker 2: came up in your conversation. Let's you know, what do 400 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:35,480 Speaker 2: you think about the pulling of federal funds of California 401 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:40,080 Speaker 2: does not comply with Title nine rooted in an understanding 402 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:43,160 Speaker 2: of gender as a thing that is real, or rather 403 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:45,800 Speaker 2: men and women are things that are different and distinguishable 404 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 2: under law. 405 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:53,399 Speaker 3: Well, this is so crazy to me that the anchor, 406 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:56,720 Speaker 3: with a straight face said to me that there are 407 00:23:56,800 --> 00:24:00,600 Speaker 3: different interpretations of Title nine, that there are people who 408 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:03,959 Speaker 3: believe that gender identity is the thing that should be 409 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:08,640 Speaker 3: protected and not sex. So for that reason, we need 410 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:12,040 Speaker 3: to legislate this at the congressional level. We need a 411 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 3: federal statute to clarify that Title nine is sex based, 412 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:20,920 Speaker 3: which does not include gender identity. It is your biological sex. 413 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:25,040 Speaker 3: The fact that we have to do that is absolutely 414 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:29,439 Speaker 3: it's terrifying to me. We've reached Orwellian levels of insanity 415 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 3: in this country. But in order to protect future generations, 416 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:38,119 Speaker 3: we have to have this spelled out in statute, because 417 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 3: as soon as we don't have a Republican administration, we're 418 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 3: going to have this crazy leftist interpretation of Title nine again, 419 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 3: and they're going to allow males to compete against girls, 420 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:51,920 Speaker 3: share facilities with girls, and there's nothing we can really 421 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 3: do about it. 422 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 2: So how it's just see my problem with this is 423 00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:59,720 Speaker 2: I still come back to if they say that, and 424 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:02,399 Speaker 2: as you pointed out that in California there's a gender 425 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:07,199 Speaker 2: identity protection law, how can you legally law you know, 426 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:09,960 Speaker 2: if somebody said, buck, how can you lawfully or legally 427 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:13,119 Speaker 2: identify a man or woman? I'm like, well, we know 428 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:14,840 Speaker 2: what a man is, we know what a woman is. Right, 429 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:16,640 Speaker 2: It's like you sit there, you go, that's a man, 430 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 2: that's a woman. How could you identify or rather, how 431 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:27,359 Speaker 2: could you codify gender identity without it excluding people who 432 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:30,639 Speaker 2: claim to be covered under gender identity, or rather without 433 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:33,200 Speaker 2: it being so vague that it could be anything. 434 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 3: Well, the people that deify the Defense of Freedom Institute 435 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:42,320 Speaker 3: have actually proposed model legislation for this. It's like the 436 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:44,920 Speaker 3: Protect Title nine Acts. You can go to their website 437 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:47,359 Speaker 3: and it's there, and they've done that and they and 438 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 3: Bill A. Staley when he was in our state's legislature 439 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:53,120 Speaker 3: right before he got appointed to the US Attorney position, 440 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:56,640 Speaker 3: also introduced a bill called AB eight forty four, which 441 00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:57,800 Speaker 3: would have done the same thing. 442 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 2: But that's defining men and women in law, right, Yes, yeah, No, 443 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:05,359 Speaker 2: What what I'm saying is, how could you define gender 444 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 2: identity in law? Because it isn't a thing. 445 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:12,640 Speaker 3: It's defined in various places in California statute, it's it's 446 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:16,480 Speaker 3: not consistent. It's always something different. And then if you 447 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 3: look at school district policies, these different school districts throughout 448 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:23,159 Speaker 3: California have also taken a stab at trying to define it. 449 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 3: But it is a nebulous concept that it's ever changing. 450 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:29,920 Speaker 3: It's not immutable. It's not going to be protected by 451 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 3: the Supreme Court in equal protection cases because it's not 452 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:36,800 Speaker 3: an immutable characteristic like sex. You cannot change your sex. 453 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:41,560 Speaker 2: Yes, So do you think this is to me? It 454 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:43,720 Speaker 2: feels like this just has to go to the Supreme 455 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 2: Court and there has to be some you know, clarify. 456 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:50,480 Speaker 2: It's amazing clarifying ruling from the Supreme Court that men 457 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:52,520 Speaker 2: and women are different and we can know the difference. 458 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 3: Why why do we have to do this? Why can 459 00:26:56,359 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 3: we not have people come to their senses and start 460 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:03,600 Speaker 3: speaking rationally and happy. 461 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:06,000 Speaker 2: Well, it feels like democrats because you're asking a very 462 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:08,639 Speaker 2: important question, But it feels like democrats to what you 463 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:11,400 Speaker 2: said before, they're just trying to ride this thing out 464 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,080 Speaker 2: until they're in power again, and then it's going to 465 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:17,439 Speaker 2: be the lunacy of Yeah, this is the you know, 466 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:19,639 Speaker 2: men in women's locker rooms, met against women on the 467 00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:24,640 Speaker 2: sports field, you know, men and women's prisons. 468 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:27,240 Speaker 3: Well, and the really Orwellian part about it is that 469 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:31,760 Speaker 3: they're saying men are women. They are women. They're not right, 470 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:34,240 Speaker 3: of course, they're actually women now because they say they 471 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 3: are these these are women and you must accept that. 472 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:39,720 Speaker 3: And if you don't accept that, you're a bigot. 473 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:41,920 Speaker 2: Well, have you ever seen this is what I always 474 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,239 Speaker 2: tell everybody is the is the true ultimate ends of this. 475 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:46,439 Speaker 2: There have been a few people who have tried this, 476 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:48,359 Speaker 2: you see like blogs or you know, stuff on like 477 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:50,719 Speaker 2: HuffPo or The Nation or some of those you know 478 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:54,880 Speaker 2: communist looney bins online where they they try to make 479 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:57,359 Speaker 2: the case that if you're a straight man who is 480 00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 2: not attracted to trans women, you're bigot it. Have you 481 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 2: ever seen that that bubbles up here and there, and 482 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:04,360 Speaker 2: as I point out to everybody, based on what you 483 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 2: just said, which is that the real belief is that 484 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 2: trans women are women indistinguishable from women. The ultimate logic 485 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:13,680 Speaker 2: of this is there's a problem with guys who aren't 486 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 2: attracted to trans women. 487 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:22,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's okay. One of the most disturbing elements here 488 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:25,280 Speaker 3: is what they're doing to children. I'm laughing right now, 489 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 3: but it's really dark. It's actually incredibly dark. And I'm 490 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:31,919 Speaker 3: on a school board out here in Palace Verde, and 491 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,720 Speaker 3: we had this book that we have fifth grade teachers 492 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 3: like these are ten year old kids. They're being read 493 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 3: a book called Too Bright to See, which says it 494 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 3: literally says in the book, a trans woman is a woman, 495 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:50,360 Speaker 3: full stop, and anything else is bigotry. And that is 496 00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:52,320 Speaker 3: what they are teaching little kids. 497 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:55,840 Speaker 2: It's all they are teaching kids. The sky is green. 498 00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:58,520 Speaker 2: They are teaching kids can see. They look at the sky, 499 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 2: it's blue, and there are books that say the sky 500 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:02,280 Speaker 2: is green, and we're supposed to accept that. 501 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:06,880 Speaker 3: Yes, this is nineteen eighty four come to life. 502 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 2: It is great. Well, Julie, appreciate the work you're doing 503 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,239 Speaker 2: on this. What's your organizations if anyone wants to go 504 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 2: help donate any of that stuff. 505 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:17,720 Speaker 3: So I am the president of the California Justice Center. 506 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:20,880 Speaker 3: We are supported by the California Policy Center, which is 507 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:24,400 Speaker 3: a nonprofit organization. If you want to donate and support 508 00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:27,520 Speaker 3: my work, that is where to go. You can find 509 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:32,640 Speaker 3: my handle on Twitter at hamml Hmill Underscore Law. 510 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:33,480 Speaker 7: Well. 511 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:36,320 Speaker 2: Great work, keeping your cool and keeping it calm and collected. 512 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:40,640 Speaker 2: While you know, while one of the commissars was trying 513 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:42,640 Speaker 2: to go through the talking points on CNN, I appreciate 514 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:44,000 Speaker 2: you making the time for us. 515 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:45,440 Speaker 3: Thank you so much. 516 00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:50,479 Speaker 2: Look, let's talk about gold for a second here. I 517 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:53,120 Speaker 2: believe in taking the long term view and that's the 518 00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:55,840 Speaker 2: best way to achieve financial security, to make smart decisions. 519 00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:58,480 Speaker 2: And gold has been part of my long term plan 520 00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:01,400 Speaker 2: for a long time, and that's why it's worked so well. 521 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 2: I go back now, I think I got my first 522 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:06,520 Speaker 2: gold coin maybe fifteen years ago, and I've been building 523 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:08,800 Speaker 2: up my gold reserves ever since. And it's been a 524 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:11,840 Speaker 2: smart move. And this is one of these things. You know, 525 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:13,920 Speaker 2: a lot a lot of conservatives we talk about gold, 526 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:16,400 Speaker 2: and we've been pushing gold for years. And if you look, 527 00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:20,840 Speaker 2: gold's done really, really well, the gold that I bought 528 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:24,720 Speaker 2: years ago has gone up tremendously in value, and gold 529 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:27,640 Speaker 2: continues to go up in value. So this is just 530 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:30,760 Speaker 2: a smart idea for the long term financial play to 531 00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 2: hedge against inflation, which we could experience a little bit 532 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:35,560 Speaker 2: of a bump in that this summer. But also the 533 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:37,960 Speaker 2: only way forward with the debt that we have is 534 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:40,040 Speaker 2: going to be more printing, more printing, more printing, which 535 00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:43,800 Speaker 2: means dollars will go down in value. Gold, my friends, 536 00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:48,120 Speaker 2: gold is the store of value still to this day 537 00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:50,760 Speaker 2: and all throughout history. With the national debt we have, 538 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:54,720 Speaker 2: there is no way forward realistically other than the continued 539 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:58,200 Speaker 2: printing of dollars, and that means the money that you 540 00:30:58,240 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 2: have in your bank account's going to be worth less. 541 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:03,040 Speaker 2: Diversifying a portion of your savings into gold so you 542 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:06,280 Speaker 2: can get that upside and get that protection makes sense. 543 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:09,320 Speaker 2: Text my name Buck to ninety eight ninety eight ninety eight. 544 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 2: Birch Gold Group will send you a free no obligation 545 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:16,400 Speaker 2: infokid on gold. 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This was 555 00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:56,240 Speaker 2: really interesting over the weekend, this drone attack in Ukraine 556 00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:58,040 Speaker 2: that got a lot of headlines. Now keep in mind, 557 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:05,360 Speaker 2: right now, there is a negotiation that's happening, or at 558 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:10,520 Speaker 2: least there's the beginnings of negotiations underway between Russia and Ukraine. 559 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:13,960 Speaker 2: So they're going into peace talks, and it comes right 560 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:17,320 Speaker 2: in the aftermath of this this strike. And here's what 561 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:20,040 Speaker 2: Here's what we know so far. There's a there's a 562 00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,239 Speaker 2: lot of footage and video of it because they the 563 00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:28,800 Speaker 2: drones relayed back in real time what they were doing, 564 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:33,240 Speaker 2: so you have footage of these attacks that are now 565 00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:37,520 Speaker 2: that have been circulated, and they were hitting they were 566 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:40,600 Speaker 2: hitting these planes on these Russian planes on the tarmac. 567 00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:46,200 Speaker 2: Here's what we know. So Ukraine got one hundred and 568 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:54,200 Speaker 2: seventeen drones aerial drones into trucks, and the trucks were Russian, 569 00:32:55,160 --> 00:33:00,680 Speaker 2: and they somehow contracted with these trucks, contracted these trucks 570 00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:05,840 Speaker 2: to go to the perimeter of four Russian air bases. 571 00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:09,920 Speaker 2: One of them was in Siberia. I mean this is 572 00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:12,680 Speaker 2: way far. This is a couple This is thousands of 573 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:17,440 Speaker 2: miles from the actual Ukraine border, so way deep inside Russia. 574 00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:23,120 Speaker 2: They got these drones to be on these trucks and 575 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:28,440 Speaker 2: then the drones activated. They obviously had them on a 576 00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:33,920 Speaker 2: remote control setup. The drones activated and were able to 577 00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:41,640 Speaker 2: attack forty Russian strategic bomber aircraft, which is which is 578 00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:44,520 Speaker 2: about a little more than a third of Russia's strategic 579 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:50,360 Speaker 2: cruise missile carriers. The estimated cost of this to Russia 580 00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:55,280 Speaker 2: is seven billion dollars. Okay, and you know, We've got 581 00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:57,600 Speaker 2: a much bigger military budget than Russia. We've got much 582 00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:01,760 Speaker 2: more in the way of these kinds strategic assets that 583 00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:04,239 Speaker 2: we could well we wouldn't want to have to rebuild them, 584 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:06,840 Speaker 2: but you know, we have much better resourcing than they do. 585 00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:10,440 Speaker 2: So you can imagine seven billion dollars of Russian military 586 00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:15,480 Speaker 2: hardware that hurts people have been talking about this as 587 00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:21,960 Speaker 2: the pager remember the Hesbela Mossad pager operation where the 588 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:25,000 Speaker 2: pagers blew up in the hands or on the waists. 589 00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:28,319 Speaker 2: Really of these Hesbela operatives because they managed to get 590 00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:32,799 Speaker 2: into their supply chain and it was as you know, 591 00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:34,880 Speaker 2: I mean, I spent some time in the CIA and 592 00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:39,480 Speaker 2: was aware of some pretty remarkable CIA operations. A lot 593 00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:42,120 Speaker 2: of the really good ones have been are public and 594 00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:43,960 Speaker 2: they've even made movies about some of them. But you know, 595 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,400 Speaker 2: the CIA has done some pretty cool stuff in the past, 596 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:50,480 Speaker 2: or i should say impressive stuff. That pager operation by 597 00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:57,040 Speaker 2: the Israelis is the stuff of intelligence espionage legend. This this 598 00:34:57,200 --> 00:35:02,480 Speaker 2: drone attack was I'm just talking tactic impressive, all right. Now, 599 00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:05,840 Speaker 2: Whether you're worried about this some kind of escalation or 600 00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:09,480 Speaker 2: anything else, that that's another part of the conversation. But 601 00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:16,520 Speaker 2: this comes after Russia has been really escalating its military 602 00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:21,200 Speaker 2: strikes on particular I'm sorry, it's strikes particularly on civilians, 603 00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:24,719 Speaker 2: not on military targets. Russia has been just blowing up 604 00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:28,080 Speaker 2: a lot a lot of civilians while we're supposed to 605 00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:31,279 Speaker 2: get this opening for a ceasefire. Really, that's what you 606 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:34,000 Speaker 2: need first, ceasefire means the guns are silent and at 607 00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:36,239 Speaker 2: least you're not taking active casualties. And then you can 608 00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:42,239 Speaker 2: continue to hammer out what a what a meaningful end 609 00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:45,000 Speaker 2: of the conflict would be. You know what what a 610 00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:48,239 Speaker 2: you know, a treaty or misstics, whatever it's going to be. 611 00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:50,600 Speaker 2: However you end it, you can figure it out. But 612 00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:52,279 Speaker 2: first you want to get to a ceasefire so you're 613 00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:59,040 Speaker 2: not losing people, there's not bloodshed unnecessarily. But Trump has 614 00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:04,239 Speaker 2: been very clear he is deeply unhappy with Putin's response 615 00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:09,600 Speaker 2: to the efforts to get him into a conversation here 616 00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:15,000 Speaker 2: about ending this war. And this is something that I 617 00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:17,120 Speaker 2: was concerned about. Look, everyone's concerned about it. It's not 618 00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:19,120 Speaker 2: easy what Trump is trying to do here. What he's 619 00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:24,000 Speaker 2: trying to accomplish would be an incredible win, but it's 620 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:27,520 Speaker 2: certainly worth trying because the alternative is that you have 621 00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:30,960 Speaker 2: people dying in large numbers on the front between Russian 622 00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:34,560 Speaker 2: and Ukraine to our side of things. And I try 623 00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:37,960 Speaker 2: to be very clear, there's Ukrainian and Russian interests here, 624 00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:42,719 Speaker 2: and there's American interest which I am primarily concerned with, 625 00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:46,600 Speaker 2: and I wish that there was no fighting going on 626 00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:49,400 Speaker 2: over there, just like I wish there was no fighting 627 00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:51,960 Speaker 2: going on between Israel and Hamas, and I wish there 628 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:55,680 Speaker 2: was no fighting and ethnic cleansing going on in Sudan. 629 00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:58,520 Speaker 2: And this is what we live in a nasty world, 630 00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:01,360 Speaker 2: as you know, and there's no way to just snap 631 00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:03,680 Speaker 2: your fingers and make these things go away. And you 632 00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:07,840 Speaker 2: can't just let the bad guys go without any response. 633 00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:11,720 Speaker 2: So on our side of things, though, with Russia Ukraine, 634 00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:16,399 Speaker 2: we are funding this, And yes, I know that there's 635 00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:20,360 Speaker 2: the argument that's being made that we are and this 636 00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:23,800 Speaker 2: I'm uncomfortable with this argument on a number of in 637 00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:27,000 Speaker 2: a number of ways, that we are bleeding Russia so 638 00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:28,839 Speaker 2: that we won't have to fight them. I don't think 639 00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:33,320 Speaker 2: that we have to worry about fighting Russia. Russia militarily 640 00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:35,239 Speaker 2: is nowhere near what it would need to be to 641 00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:38,040 Speaker 2: pose a threat to US interests, I know, other than 642 00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:43,920 Speaker 2: the nuclear arsenal, but we're Russia is not looking to 643 00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:46,600 Speaker 2: create a nuclear holocaust of the entire planet. I'm pretty 644 00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:49,640 Speaker 2: confident in that we are working on now, thanks to Trump, 645 00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:51,960 Speaker 2: the Golden Dome system, which I think will give us 646 00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:55,800 Speaker 2: even more peace of mind. That's to me more for Iran, 647 00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:59,399 Speaker 2: North Korea, you know, rogue state actors, where it's not 648 00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:01,960 Speaker 2: just the possile ability that they may get crazy enough 649 00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:05,560 Speaker 2: that they want to launch, which is there. The more 650 00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:07,319 Speaker 2: you I'll tell you this, the more you read about 651 00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:10,279 Speaker 2: North Korea, I've learned a fair bit. I mean, I'm 652 00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:13,080 Speaker 2: because I find it fascinating. It's a little bit though. 653 00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:18,040 Speaker 2: North Korea is terrifying to the point where like you 654 00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:19,839 Speaker 2: need to go if you really read up on it, 655 00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:21,600 Speaker 2: and I mean you get into the history of it 656 00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:23,960 Speaker 2: and what it's like there, you got to go for 657 00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:29,080 Speaker 2: a walk in the sunshine afterwards, because it will you 658 00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:30,640 Speaker 2: kind of feel in your soul how could this be 659 00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:35,600 Speaker 2: happening today today in the world. How could a place 660 00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:40,520 Speaker 2: be so horrific and so crazy and such a vile tyranny. 661 00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:43,160 Speaker 2: But so yeah, the more you learn about North Korea, 662 00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:45,760 Speaker 2: the more you think to yourself, well, maybe they're crazy 663 00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:47,680 Speaker 2: enough to fire off a missile, but there's also the 664 00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:52,640 Speaker 2: possibility that they could just lose control of the stockpile 665 00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:55,400 Speaker 2: to some faction within that that's even crazier. This is 666 00:38:55,440 --> 00:39:00,440 Speaker 2: always the concern, And you know, I would say, if 667 00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:03,240 Speaker 2: anyone is going to be able to bring about a 668 00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:06,600 Speaker 2: ceasefire between Russia and Ukraine. I think Trump is in 669 00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:09,279 Speaker 2: the likeliest position. But this was always going to be 670 00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:11,040 Speaker 2: a tough ask. I know, Trump said I would end it, 671 00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:13,800 Speaker 2: you know, day one or whatever. And that's Trump in 672 00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:17,080 Speaker 2: the role as salesman of Look, I am the best 673 00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:20,600 Speaker 2: guy for this, so let me do what I need 674 00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:22,840 Speaker 2: to do and we'll get there. You know, maybe a 675 00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:25,319 Speaker 2: little bit of over over promising on the timeline, but 676 00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:28,480 Speaker 2: that doesn't mean that Trump isn't the best guy to 677 00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:30,680 Speaker 2: try to get it done. There's the possibility. And I 678 00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:33,160 Speaker 2: thought this all along that there is no ceasefire to 679 00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:37,320 Speaker 2: be had because Putin thinks he's winning, and there's reason 680 00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:39,959 Speaker 2: for him to believe that, and he doesn't care about 681 00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:42,040 Speaker 2: the casualties that he's incurring because he doesn't have to 682 00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:44,360 Speaker 2: face a real election, and he thinks that this is 683 00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:47,080 Speaker 2: more in the long term strategic interest of Russia to pursue. 684 00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:49,680 Speaker 2: And maybe he views himself. I think there's plenty of 685 00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:52,640 Speaker 2: reason to think that he views himself in the mold 686 00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:57,799 Speaker 2: of a you know, whether it's a Stalin or a 687 00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:00,880 Speaker 2: Peter the Great or one of the one of the 688 00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:07,040 Speaker 2: still very celebrated leaders Soviet or Russian leaders of the 689 00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:12,960 Speaker 2: past who were very expansionist in there in their ideas 690 00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:15,800 Speaker 2: right and what they were able to accomplish. I actually 691 00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:19,360 Speaker 2: read a I have it here, it's I've in The 692 00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:25,120 Speaker 2: Terrible by pain and Romanov. I told you about North Korea. 693 00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:27,719 Speaker 2: Same thing with with reading about Ivan the Terrible. You 694 00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:29,759 Speaker 2: will need to go for a walk in the sunshine 695 00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:31,960 Speaker 2: if you if you read about how crazy that guy 696 00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:38,560 Speaker 2: was really, I mean truly sadistic in a way that 697 00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:43,080 Speaker 2: is demonic. And yeah, I was was leader with leader 698 00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:45,920 Speaker 2: of of Ru, I mean not wasn't really Russia. It 699 00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:47,799 Speaker 2: was kind of like he's a prince of Moscow. It's 700 00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:51,240 Speaker 2: a little different, but still and somebody that has thought 701 00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:54,200 Speaker 2: of I think very clearly. In fact, you could make it. 702 00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:57,600 Speaker 2: You can draw a pretty straight line between a lot 703 00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:02,919 Speaker 2: of the Stalinist approach to dissent and to totalitarianism. And 704 00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:07,719 Speaker 2: I've in The Terrible setting up a really the the 705 00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:13,600 Speaker 2: original totalitarian secret policeman as the op pretz Niki. And 706 00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:15,720 Speaker 2: I read about this in my book, which is probably 707 00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:18,759 Speaker 2: why I'm immediately going into this. Op pretz Niki were 708 00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:23,120 Speaker 2: a fascinating group, horrible they dressed in all black. They 709 00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:26,000 Speaker 2: had severed dogs heads that they would have tied to 710 00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:28,160 Speaker 2: their saddle, just so everybody knew what they were really about. 711 00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:33,640 Speaker 2: And they had complete extra judicial detention, torture and execution 712 00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:36,160 Speaker 2: authority anybody that they wanted to kill who was in 713 00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:39,160 Speaker 2: the way of the of the of the Tsar that 714 00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:41,799 Speaker 2: he didn't like or that they didn't like. You know, 715 00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:43,600 Speaker 2: as long as it didn't make the tsar angry, it 716 00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:47,680 Speaker 2: didn't matter. And Stalin I think figured out that this 717 00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:49,479 Speaker 2: was a very effective way because I'm in the terrible 718 00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:52,279 Speaker 2: stayed in power for a long time and managed to 719 00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:55,480 Speaker 2: get get quite get quite far. Actually did pretty well 720 00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:58,200 Speaker 2: militarily against some of the enemies in the region. Anyway, Sorry, 721 00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:02,360 Speaker 2: I'm weaving a little too much there. Back to Russia Ukraine. 722 00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:04,880 Speaker 2: See this is why you got to get the books. 723 00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:08,560 Speaker 2: You can learn more about the opera Shniki scary guys, 724 00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:10,560 Speaker 2: and the fact that they had dogs heads on their saddles. Man, 725 00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:12,680 Speaker 2: that's an if you want to show that somebody is 726 00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:16,279 Speaker 2: an evil, you know, son of a gun, a dog 727 00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:18,120 Speaker 2: head on the saddle is like a very good place 728 00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:21,759 Speaker 2: to start, you know. That's I'm like still angry. That 729 00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:23,680 Speaker 2: was five hundred years ago. I'm still angry about it. 730 00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:26,520 Speaker 2: So I think that there's a chance that we'll get 731 00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:28,360 Speaker 2: some kind of a ceasefire Russia Ukraine, but I'm not 732 00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:32,040 Speaker 2: counting on it. Trump is annoyed. But back to American 733 00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:37,960 Speaker 2: interests here, back to what the US is hoping to 734 00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:41,040 Speaker 2: get out of this. We don't want to continue to 735 00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:42,879 Speaker 2: fund this forever, and we certainly don't want to put 736 00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:45,560 Speaker 2: our own people in harm's way and suffer the possible 737 00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:51,320 Speaker 2: loss of American soldiers fighting in a country that ultimately 738 00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:55,000 Speaker 2: whether it stays under Russian Federation control, or rather whether 739 00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:57,920 Speaker 2: it stays under Ukraine or Russian Federation control, does not 740 00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:02,080 Speaker 2: matter that much to us. That is the harsh reality 741 00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:04,640 Speaker 2: of it. It doesn't matter enough that we're willing to 742 00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:07,160 Speaker 2: die for it, doesn't matter enough that I would want 743 00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:08,840 Speaker 2: any of you, any of you listening, or any of 744 00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:11,879 Speaker 2: your children or grandchildren to go fight for it. So 745 00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:14,200 Speaker 2: we have that in mind with all of this, right, 746 00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:17,759 Speaker 2: this is something that we have to understand that that 747 00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:22,640 Speaker 2: is the red line, not a single American on behalf 748 00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:25,600 Speaker 2: of the armed forces, our armed forces dying over there. 749 00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:28,359 Speaker 2: To figure out where the final lines on the map 750 00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:31,640 Speaker 2: will be drawn. But yes, it was an impressive strike 751 00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:34,360 Speaker 2: by Ukraine inside of drums and also as a window 752 00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:37,880 Speaker 2: I think into the future of warfare, which is just 753 00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:41,000 Speaker 2: going to be increasingly I think that we reached, in 754 00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:49,279 Speaker 2: a sense a pinnacle of commando warfare, and I mean 755 00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:54,640 Speaker 2: that special operations jsock Seals, Delta Rangers, marsk all that 756 00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:57,040 Speaker 2: we reached a pinnacle of that in the War on 757 00:43:57,120 --> 00:44:02,480 Speaker 2: Terror because it was largely counterinsurgency operations. It was targeted 758 00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:06,759 Speaker 2: strikes against individuals. You know, it was gunning it out, 759 00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:10,160 Speaker 2: muzzleble muzzle with the bad guys. The wars of the 760 00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:14,000 Speaker 2: future I think are going to increasingly rely on those. Obviously, 761 00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:17,440 Speaker 2: special operations always have a very important role, precision instrument 762 00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:20,320 Speaker 2: that needs to be used the way it was intended 763 00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:22,000 Speaker 2: to be used. But you're going to see a lot 764 00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:26,920 Speaker 2: more of just tech drones, AI and everybody sees this happening, 765 00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:29,759 Speaker 2: and who controls the skies is going to be a 766 00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:34,360 Speaker 2: combination of who has the best autonomous tech, the best AI, 767 00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:38,799 Speaker 2: the best overall drone systems and the manufacturing of them. 768 00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:42,319 Speaker 2: Another reason why manufacturing capacity is going to be so 769 00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:46,000 Speaker 2: important here because if China can put ten thousand drones 770 00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:47,879 Speaker 2: a month in the sky and we can only put 771 00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:50,680 Speaker 2: you know, a thousand, even if ours are better. That's 772 00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:53,600 Speaker 2: a big problem. So this is where I think the 773 00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:55,920 Speaker 2: future and I believe everyone sees this. The future of 774 00:44:55,960 --> 00:45:00,640 Speaker 2: warfare is going and you're seeing a picture into it. 775 00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:06,520 Speaker 2: Remember the Boer War in South Africa. Get it into 776 00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:08,319 Speaker 2: South Africa discussion now. But the Boer War in South 777 00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:15,200 Speaker 2: Africa the origin of the term concentration camp and also 778 00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:18,880 Speaker 2: was actually an early version of the trench warfare we 779 00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:21,360 Speaker 2: saw in the First World War. You really got a 780 00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:23,680 Speaker 2: sneak peak of what the First World War was going 781 00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:25,960 Speaker 2: to turn into with the trench warfare based on the 782 00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:28,640 Speaker 2: Boer War. We are getting a sneak peak of what 783 00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:32,200 Speaker 2: nation state warfare in the future is going to be 784 00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:34,719 Speaker 2: between with this look at Russia Ukraine, but it could 785 00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:36,560 Speaker 2: be of course between the US and China. And that's 786 00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:39,240 Speaker 2: the big thing that we're looking at here. The official 787 00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:41,359 Speaker 2: start to hurricane season has arrived, and you know what 788 00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:44,480 Speaker 2: that means, more rain and more debris in your gutters. 789 00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:46,960 Speaker 2: When your gutters are clogged, that will lead to costly 790 00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:49,319 Speaker 2: damage to your home. You don't want the mess or 791 00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:52,680 Speaker 2: the expense. 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See your representative for 801 00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:31,160 Speaker 2: warranty details. Third hour of Clan Buck kicks off. Now 802 00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:36,480 Speaker 2: we're joined by op Blahoma, Senator Mark Wayne Mullin. Senator 803 00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:41,439 Speaker 2: Mark Waynemullen. I'm sorry, Senator Mullen, well also correct. Good 804 00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:42,920 Speaker 2: to have you on, Senator. 805 00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:46,640 Speaker 7: Buck, thanks for having me on. And anything works, but 806 00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:50,040 Speaker 7: you don't have to call the title, Mark Wayne Mullen, idiot. 807 00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:52,239 Speaker 7: Full all those work. 808 00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:53,120 Speaker 3: I'll enter to them all. 809 00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:56,239 Speaker 2: I believe you are an MMA fighter, so I'm going 810 00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:58,799 Speaker 2: to pass on the idiot, but I will I will 811 00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:00,960 Speaker 2: definitely keep in mind that you are not one who 812 00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:04,399 Speaker 2: stands on ceremony and formality, so thank you for that. Yes, 813 00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:08,360 Speaker 2: but tell me this. I mean, look, we you know, 814 00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:09,880 Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm sure you know what is like 815 00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:12,160 Speaker 2: your United States Senator. Sometimes you get a little caught 816 00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:14,080 Speaker 2: in the crossfire on some things. On the one hand, 817 00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:16,600 Speaker 2: we're talking we have people from the Trump White House 818 00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:18,880 Speaker 2: on and they're talking about the big beautiful bill, the 819 00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:22,000 Speaker 2: great things that will do the boom in the economy. 820 00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:25,440 Speaker 2: They believe it will bring about take home pay for homes, 821 00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:27,400 Speaker 2: all that stuff. The other side, we get people we 822 00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:29,759 Speaker 2: have had your colleague, Senator ran Paul Long, We've had 823 00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:33,480 Speaker 2: your colleagues Senator Ron Johnson on and they're saying, look, 824 00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:36,799 Speaker 2: there's some great stuff, but spends too much money. Where 825 00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:39,239 Speaker 2: does the big beautiful bills stand now? On the Senate side, 826 00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:41,440 Speaker 2: walk us through what's going on, what you like, what 827 00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:43,600 Speaker 2: maybe needs to change, and what we should expect. 828 00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:47,320 Speaker 7: Well, first of all, I mean, this bill's been getting 829 00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:51,480 Speaker 7: negotiated since November, so this does anything do Everybody's had 830 00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:54,080 Speaker 7: had time to put their input, and they're going to 831 00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:55,719 Speaker 7: have more time to put their input. So I got 832 00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:58,160 Speaker 7: all the respects in the world for Ron Johnson and 833 00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:02,600 Speaker 7: Ran Paul. But the truth is their ideas are great, 834 00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:04,880 Speaker 7: but it's their idea and they're going to have to 835 00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:07,400 Speaker 7: get fifty one people to agree with them. And so 836 00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:11,600 Speaker 7: what we've got issues here is that we have Obama 837 00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:15,680 Speaker 7: slash Biden era policies. And I mean that sincerely, because 838 00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:20,799 Speaker 7: you know, Biden is just, you know, an extension of 839 00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:25,520 Speaker 7: the Obama era of policies except worse. So you have 840 00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:28,560 Speaker 7: that's what we're currently operating underneath. And now you have 841 00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:31,840 Speaker 7: the Trump policy error that's trying to come in place, 842 00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:34,920 Speaker 7: and we do that through reconciliation. We all want to 843 00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:39,200 Speaker 7: cut more spending, I mean physically, being physically responsible is 844 00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:41,839 Speaker 7: honestly what we all want to do. But the House 845 00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:44,720 Speaker 7: will cuts one point six trillion dollars from deficit spending. 846 00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:47,040 Speaker 7: And that's true deficit spending. Now, I've been up here 847 00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:50,560 Speaker 7: for way too long, serving the House for ten years 848 00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:53,279 Speaker 7: and now two years in the Senate, and I can 849 00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:56,040 Speaker 7: tell you every time we've always had deficit cuts, it's 850 00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:58,799 Speaker 7: always been a teen year cut. Right, It's going to 851 00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:02,080 Speaker 7: save five hundred billion over ten years, and we never 852 00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:05,840 Speaker 7: actually achieve a ten year cut. This is one point 853 00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:11,440 Speaker 7: six trillion dollars cutting immediately, so it doesn't balance a budget, 854 00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:14,400 Speaker 7: but it does move forward. And as we move forward 855 00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:17,040 Speaker 7: to this bill, hopefully we can even do better. Hopefully 856 00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:20,120 Speaker 7: we can get to two trillion dollars and cuts. Except 857 00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:22,960 Speaker 7: at the same time, we're trying to implement you know, 858 00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:28,200 Speaker 7: campaign promises too, and the American people want the Trump 859 00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:30,600 Speaker 7: policies that he campaign on. In one of them is 860 00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:35,840 Speaker 7: no tax on tips, no tax on on overtime, and 861 00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:39,920 Speaker 7: no tax on Social Security. Well that adds costs too, 862 00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:42,160 Speaker 7: and so you've got to take it in and out. 863 00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:47,320 Speaker 7: And reconciliation we can only deal with taxes and mandatory spending, 864 00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:49,880 Speaker 7: not discretionary spending. So we got a narrow window to 865 00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:52,480 Speaker 7: what we can actually work with. That's that's why it's 866 00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:55,800 Speaker 7: called reconciliation and requires fifty one votes. Where a budget, 867 00:49:56,840 --> 00:50:00,840 Speaker 7: which we'll start on, you know, the budget just I 868 00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:06,200 Speaker 7: mean our discretionary spending moving forward right after this, and 869 00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:09,040 Speaker 7: that's a sixty vote threshold. So my point that I'm 870 00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:10,680 Speaker 7: trying to get to Buck is that we have a 871 00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:12,759 Speaker 7: very narrow window that we can work with. We're going 872 00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:14,640 Speaker 7: to get all the cuts we can possibly get at 873 00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:16,360 Speaker 7: the end of the day when this bill goes to 874 00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:19,399 Speaker 7: the floor. This one big, beautiful bill that we've been 875 00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:22,160 Speaker 7: working on since November, and everybody's had their fringer prints on, 876 00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:25,480 Speaker 7: everybody's had an opportunity to put their input on. We're 877 00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:27,359 Speaker 7: going to put whatever is on the floor that can 878 00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:31,080 Speaker 7: get fifty one votes so we can get away from 879 00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:34,839 Speaker 7: the Biden era policies and move forward to the Trump 880 00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:38,480 Speaker 7: era policies, which is we're seeing the economy respond to already, 881 00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:40,080 Speaker 7: and we haven't passed the bill yet. 882 00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:43,520 Speaker 2: I wanted to have you react, senatorm moll into what 883 00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:47,040 Speaker 2: Senator Paul says here about four Republicans who he believes 884 00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:50,200 Speaker 2: we will not go along with the bill as it stands. 885 00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:57,000 Speaker 2: This is cut three team, play it team. 886 00:50:57,800 --> 00:50:59,960 Speaker 8: I think there are four of us at this point, 887 00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:02,759 Speaker 8: and I would be very surprised if the bill at 888 00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:05,520 Speaker 8: least is not modified in a good direction. Look, I 889 00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:07,400 Speaker 8: want to vote for it. I'm for the tax cuts. 890 00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:09,840 Speaker 8: I've voted for the tax cust before. I want the 891 00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:12,600 Speaker 8: tax cuts to be permanent. But at the same time, 892 00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:15,080 Speaker 8: I don't want to raise the debt sealing five trillion, 893 00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:16,760 Speaker 8: So I've told him if you take the debt ceiling 894 00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:19,759 Speaker 8: off the bill, in all likelihood, I can vote for 895 00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:22,240 Speaker 8: what the agreement is on the rest of the bill, 896 00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:24,760 Speaker 8: and it doesn't have to be perfect to my liking. 897 00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:26,879 Speaker 8: But I can't be if I vote for the five 898 00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:29,560 Speaker 8: trillion to our debt. Who's left in Washington that cares 899 00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:30,160 Speaker 8: about the debt? 900 00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:30,919 Speaker 2: We will have lost. 901 00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:33,879 Speaker 8: The GOP will own the debt once they vote for this. 902 00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:37,799 Speaker 2: What do you make of that, Senator, Well, we're going 903 00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:38,759 Speaker 2: to have to raise the debt. 904 00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:41,000 Speaker 7: You know, it's kind of like taking over a failing business. 905 00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:43,040 Speaker 7: Right When you take over a failing business, you don't 906 00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:46,400 Speaker 7: just start making money day one. You have to invest 907 00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:48,239 Speaker 7: in it. And that's why you bring in investors, and 908 00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:51,319 Speaker 7: investors are expecting you to get a return. And that's 909 00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:53,640 Speaker 7: what the American people did. They invested in the Republican 910 00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:56,720 Speaker 7: Party and expecting the return. But you can't just simply 911 00:51:56,719 --> 00:52:00,000 Speaker 7: turn it around. The Biden administration spent like drunken SAE. 912 00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:04,960 Speaker 7: You know, we had almost every almost every single agency 913 00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:07,440 Speaker 7: iner the last four years has increased from fifty to 914 00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:12,440 Speaker 7: one in in what they're receiving for their budget in 915 00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:16,280 Speaker 7: four years. So we're cutting everybody's budget, and we're bringing 916 00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:18,960 Speaker 7: down the debt. But you can't just simply say that 917 00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:21,560 Speaker 7: we're going to have enough money to balance the budget immediately. 918 00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:25,440 Speaker 7: We're going to have to borrow more money. And I 919 00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:27,840 Speaker 7: think in two and a half maybe three years, we 920 00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:29,759 Speaker 7: can balance it and we won't have to borrow any 921 00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:32,799 Speaker 7: money if we continue down the Trump policies that he's 922 00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:35,560 Speaker 7: put forth. But you can't do it now. And so 923 00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:38,239 Speaker 7: I don't know what Ran Paul wants us to do, 924 00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:41,359 Speaker 7: because we are in debt and the debt limit is 925 00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:44,520 Speaker 7: going to hit us regardless of what we do if 926 00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:47,000 Speaker 7: we pass this bill we don't, it's going to hit us. 927 00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:49,879 Speaker 7: And so we have two choices as Republicans. We can 928 00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:53,640 Speaker 7: put the debt limit increase on reconciliation and only have 929 00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:55,960 Speaker 7: to have fifty one votes, meaning that we can do 930 00:52:56,040 --> 00:53:00,960 Speaker 7: this without the Democrat support, or we and we do 931 00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:04,480 Speaker 7: it on a budget bill, or we do it as 932 00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:08,040 Speaker 7: a standalone and we got to have sixty. So now 933 00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:11,279 Speaker 7: we're gonna have to negotiate with Chuck Schumer and the 934 00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:14,399 Speaker 7: Democrats to get them to give us seven or maybe 935 00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:17,640 Speaker 7: even more votes, and probably more than likely by the 936 00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:19,600 Speaker 7: time we negotiate with them. There's gonna be a lot 937 00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:21,520 Speaker 7: of Republicans that aren't gonna want to vote for it, 938 00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:24,400 Speaker 7: and so instead of just having seven, we're gonna end 939 00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:28,120 Speaker 7: up having to have fifteen or twenty Democrats. Now, can 940 00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:30,880 Speaker 7: you imagine what type of deal we'll have to strike 941 00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:33,880 Speaker 7: with them, because we're going to raise a dead limit. Regardless, 942 00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:36,000 Speaker 7: we're gonna raise a dead limit. We're gonna raise it. 943 00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:38,600 Speaker 7: If we raise it four point five trillion, I will 944 00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:40,200 Speaker 7: be willing to tell you buck right now, we'll have 945 00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:42,440 Speaker 7: to raise it again another two and a half trillion. 946 00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:45,920 Speaker 7: And so I feel like we should just go ahead 947 00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:49,080 Speaker 7: and raise a dead limit enough that we know if 948 00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:50,920 Speaker 7: the numbers continue to grow the way they are, with 949 00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:57,640 Speaker 7: the GDP growing, with the debt decrease in deficit spending, 950 00:53:57,680 --> 00:54:00,880 Speaker 7: because we're doing one point six off of discretionctionary or 951 00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:03,640 Speaker 7: off of mandatory, and the next then when we start 952 00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:06,200 Speaker 7: doing the budget bills, we can even do more off 953 00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:10,680 Speaker 7: discretionary spending. By those two graphs, they're going to meet 954 00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:12,600 Speaker 7: in about two and a half or three years, and 955 00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:14,600 Speaker 7: it will be the first time that a president has 956 00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:17,120 Speaker 7: balanced the budget since Clinton. But we're going to have 957 00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:20,319 Speaker 7: to borrow the money to get to that point. So we, 958 00:54:20,520 --> 00:54:23,320 Speaker 7: like I said, we can do it now and negotiate 959 00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:26,640 Speaker 7: with Republicans only, or we're going to do it later 960 00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:30,799 Speaker 7: because there is no B. There's either A or B 961 00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:33,520 Speaker 7: because C means with a fault, and we're not going 962 00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:36,040 Speaker 7: to default on the money we spent. We spent it, 963 00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:38,400 Speaker 7: regardless we like it or not. We spent it, so 964 00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:39,359 Speaker 7: we got to pay it back. 965 00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:43,360 Speaker 2: Speaking in Oklahoma, Centator Mark Wayne Mullen and Senator Mullen, 966 00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:47,520 Speaker 2: you're talking about balancing the budget in the future, not 967 00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:51,160 Speaker 2: on this Big beautiful What is the is the official 968 00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:53,120 Speaker 2: what is the official name of the bill? Sorry for 969 00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:54,840 Speaker 2: the diversion, but I'm curious. Is it going to be 970 00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:57,040 Speaker 2: called the Big Beautiful Bill? Or is there some boring 971 00:54:57,320 --> 00:54:58,279 Speaker 2: DC names for it. 972 00:54:58,320 --> 00:54:59,799 Speaker 7: I'm sure we're going to come up with some red 973 00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:03,799 Speaker 7: pless you know, acronym because we love acronyms up here. 974 00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:05,680 Speaker 7: But right now, we're gonna call it what the President 975 00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:07,480 Speaker 7: calls it, One big beautiful and by the way, he 976 00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:12,279 Speaker 7: just recently had glamorous, one big beautiful, glamorous bill. But 977 00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:13,960 Speaker 7: we don't I don't know what the acronym is. 978 00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:16,440 Speaker 2: I got you Okay, I mean I think I think 979 00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:18,719 Speaker 2: we just go with big beautiful bill. Personally, everybody knows 980 00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:20,520 Speaker 2: what we're talking about with that one, I think, And 981 00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:25,280 Speaker 2: uh yeah, it'll drive the It'll drive the Democrats completely insane, 982 00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:28,080 Speaker 2: which makes it even more fun and more worthwhile right 983 00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:30,839 Speaker 2: in and of itself. But for those who because look, 984 00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:34,279 Speaker 2: I get people who call in or write in and 985 00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:36,880 Speaker 2: they're they're upset, and they start to say things like 986 00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:39,640 Speaker 2: we're just never actually going to deal with the debt 987 00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:43,080 Speaker 2: and all this talk about dealing with the debt is 988 00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:46,920 Speaker 2: is hot air. What do you say to them? I mean, 989 00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:49,000 Speaker 2: at what point do we start to take the debt? 990 00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:53,000 Speaker 2: Is it realistic that within the Trump administration, at some 991 00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:56,000 Speaker 2: point we can actually start to take the thirty six 992 00:55:56,080 --> 00:55:59,160 Speaker 2: trillion dollar debt in the other direction? Or is that 993 00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:01,360 Speaker 2: just is the best we can hope for slowing the 994 00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:04,720 Speaker 2: increase over time, maybe balancing it here and there. 995 00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:07,879 Speaker 7: No, I think we can reverse it, but it takes 996 00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:11,360 Speaker 7: it takes three things to happen for that to happen. One, 997 00:56:11,719 --> 00:56:15,240 Speaker 7: we've got to have sound policy that the economy will 998 00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:17,760 Speaker 7: respond to. I mean, we've got to have sound policy. 999 00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:21,279 Speaker 7: We're economy, who's going to respond to two. We've got 1000 00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:27,840 Speaker 7: to have accurate policies that that will drive innovation. Uh 1001 00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:33,360 Speaker 7: and and then number three, the the the politicians us, 1002 00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:37,160 Speaker 7: we have to be responsible with the taxpayer dollars. And 1003 00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:41,160 Speaker 7: if you do those, then economy and the spending levels 1004 00:56:41,239 --> 00:56:45,160 Speaker 7: will will eventually touch each other and we'll will surpass them. 1005 00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:49,799 Speaker 7: If the GDP can grow right around three percent and 1006 00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:53,480 Speaker 7: we can hold spending at its current level after we 1007 00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:57,080 Speaker 7: do the reconciliation, just by doing that and not doing 1008 00:56:57,120 --> 00:57:00,160 Speaker 7: additional cuts, which we will do additional cuts, but if 1009 00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:03,239 Speaker 7: we just do those, most economs will tell you that 1010 00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:04,800 Speaker 7: the lines will touch in two and a half for 1011 00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:08,400 Speaker 7: three years, depending on the investment and how much we have. 1012 00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:11,000 Speaker 7: We see that inflation is down to two point one 1013 00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:15,000 Speaker 7: percent already. That's huge. Right. When we see the taxes 1014 00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:18,880 Speaker 7: become permanent, and then we see R and D, which 1015 00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:22,320 Speaker 7: will hopefully become permanent, research and development come permanent where 1016 00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:24,640 Speaker 7: they can actually write that off, you're going to see 1017 00:57:24,640 --> 00:57:29,560 Speaker 7: that that technology filled increase here and you're going to 1018 00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:32,400 Speaker 7: see the growth begin, which is exactly what you do 1019 00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:36,480 Speaker 7: with the business right You take out debt for potential 1020 00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:39,640 Speaker 7: earnings because you have a business plan, you borrow on it. 1021 00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:42,040 Speaker 7: The bank borrows less. You borrow the money because they 1022 00:57:42,080 --> 00:57:44,760 Speaker 7: see your business plan and they know that your growth 1023 00:57:45,120 --> 00:57:47,440 Speaker 7: is going to eventually surpass enough to be able to 1024 00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:49,720 Speaker 7: pay you off a debt. That's what third gamble is. Well, 1025 00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:52,600 Speaker 7: we feel like we're trying to operate like a business 1026 00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:56,800 Speaker 7: because we have a business guy in office, not just myself, 1027 00:57:56,840 --> 00:58:00,840 Speaker 7: but the President Trump himself, and we're taking business approach 1028 00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:03,680 Speaker 7: to it. We know we can't just simply cut it 1029 00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:06,800 Speaker 7: off right now, which we are. We'd love to, but 1030 00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:10,959 Speaker 7: we just can't find enough to cut all the programs 1031 00:58:11,400 --> 00:58:13,720 Speaker 7: in this short period of time. The more we dig 1032 00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:16,320 Speaker 7: into him, the more Doge continues to dive in, The 1033 00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:18,680 Speaker 7: more we continue to dive in and see all the 1034 00:58:18,680 --> 00:58:21,440 Speaker 7: waste and fraud that has been taking place in the government, 1035 00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:26,160 Speaker 7: the more we'll continue to cut. And I feel, I 1036 00:58:27,640 --> 00:58:29,880 Speaker 7: mean it sincerely, this is the first time that I've 1037 00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:32,720 Speaker 7: ever been up here that I feel very, very confident 1038 00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:35,400 Speaker 7: that we will balance the budget. And the President has 1039 00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:37,720 Speaker 7: made it his plan that that's what he wants. When 1040 00:58:37,720 --> 00:58:40,960 Speaker 7: he's sat down and talked to us, especially those that 1041 00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:44,640 Speaker 7: have a relationship with him. This is part of his 1042 00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:49,160 Speaker 7: make America great again. He understands how to make money, 1043 00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:51,560 Speaker 7: but he also understands debt and how it works. 1044 00:58:52,720 --> 00:58:54,560 Speaker 2: Senator, before we let you go and take a hard 1045 00:58:54,560 --> 00:58:57,640 Speaker 2: turn here into just curiosity ville. You were an MMA 1046 00:58:57,720 --> 00:58:58,880 Speaker 2: fighter for how many years? 1047 00:59:00,520 --> 00:59:04,640 Speaker 7: Well? I fought for three years. But before that we 1048 00:59:04,640 --> 00:59:08,440 Speaker 7: were you know, we weren't considered professionals, right, uh so 1049 00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:11,560 Speaker 7: there is additional fights too. But you know, I wasn't 1050 00:59:11,600 --> 00:59:13,240 Speaker 7: as good as a lot of these other guys out 1051 00:59:13,280 --> 00:59:14,800 Speaker 7: there that everybody knows. 1052 00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:16,880 Speaker 2: Who do you think is the best of all time 1053 00:59:16,920 --> 00:59:19,360 Speaker 2: taking punch? You know, because because you've been in that arena, 1054 00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:22,120 Speaker 2: literally inside that cage, right, who do you think is 1055 00:59:22,120 --> 00:59:24,000 Speaker 2: the best all time? I'm just curious. 1056 00:59:24,320 --> 00:59:27,040 Speaker 7: Boy, Well you got to go way back. You got 1057 00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:29,800 Speaker 7: to talk about John Jones. John Jones is just even 1058 00:59:29,840 --> 00:59:32,160 Speaker 7: though he's had personal issues, the guy has just been 1059 00:59:32,200 --> 00:59:37,080 Speaker 7: a beast and people call him the goat just because 1060 00:59:37,120 --> 00:59:40,720 Speaker 7: he's had, you know, some issues. I still think the 1061 00:59:40,720 --> 00:59:43,040 Speaker 7: guy was just the most dangerous man that stepped in 1062 00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:45,280 Speaker 7: the arena. I mean, the guy is just a stud. 1063 00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:47,919 Speaker 7: But when he started looking at some of these old 1064 00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:51,120 Speaker 7: school guys Raady Coutura for instance, instance, I mean here, 1065 00:59:51,160 --> 00:59:55,400 Speaker 7: this guy comes in, he wins, you know, uh, he 1066 00:59:55,480 --> 01:00:00,520 Speaker 7: wins two different divisions as a world titles for the see. 1067 01:00:00,920 --> 01:00:03,160 Speaker 7: I think he ended up went in five total altogether. 1068 01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:05,800 Speaker 7: I'm trying to pull that off toop my head. Ready's 1069 01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:07,400 Speaker 7: act friend of mine. He's gonna be upset that I 1070 01:00:07,440 --> 01:00:11,040 Speaker 7: can't remember his record. But the guy was just absolutely unbelievable. 1071 01:00:11,120 --> 01:00:13,200 Speaker 7: He came in and made some fights and fought up 1072 01:00:13,240 --> 01:00:17,680 Speaker 7: on up up weights that most people didn't expect him 1073 01:00:17,720 --> 01:00:20,080 Speaker 7: to be able to do. He embarrassed Ken Shan Rockman 1074 01:00:20,240 --> 01:00:23,600 Speaker 7: very sphincted butt and and Ken is the guy that 1075 01:00:23,640 --> 01:00:28,919 Speaker 7: I trained with some so and and he just there's 1076 01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:30,760 Speaker 7: just a whole host. It just depends on the year 1077 01:00:30,800 --> 01:00:33,080 Speaker 7: that you want to get to, right you can. There's 1078 01:00:33,120 --> 01:00:35,480 Speaker 7: a whole bunch of guys that's come in there. Daniel 1079 01:00:35,520 --> 01:00:39,760 Speaker 7: Cormy uh d C which people have talked about. Everybody 1080 01:00:39,840 --> 01:00:43,280 Speaker 7: underestimated him and he did. He did just phenomenal work 1081 01:00:43,320 --> 01:00:45,280 Speaker 7: in there, and he didn't look like he ever belonged 1082 01:00:45,280 --> 01:00:49,160 Speaker 7: in in the division. But but you got at one 1083 01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:54,960 Speaker 7: time you had a big rig was the name Johnny 1084 01:00:55,520 --> 01:01:01,120 Speaker 7: Hendricks who was walking through everybody right, uh and and 1085 01:01:01,240 --> 01:01:03,600 Speaker 7: at that time. But now could he compete with the 1086 01:01:03,680 --> 01:01:06,840 Speaker 7: days fighters? That's what The day Fighters are so much 1087 01:01:06,880 --> 01:01:08,760 Speaker 7: better talent than we ever were back then. We're just 1088 01:01:08,840 --> 01:01:11,800 Speaker 7: a bunch of bankers. Now these they grew up in 1089 01:01:11,840 --> 01:01:12,680 Speaker 7: the field. 1090 01:01:13,480 --> 01:01:16,400 Speaker 2: One more lightning round, quick, just quick, kind of related, 1091 01:01:16,640 --> 01:01:18,720 Speaker 2: best martial arts movie of all time in your mind, 1092 01:01:20,600 --> 01:01:24,040 Speaker 2: but sport, that is the correct answer. All right, he 1093 01:01:24,120 --> 01:01:27,800 Speaker 2: got it, Senator Mark Wayne Mullen. Everybody, Senator, appreciate you 1094 01:01:27,800 --> 01:01:30,440 Speaker 2: making the time. Come back soon, all right, see you 1095 01:01:30,520 --> 01:01:34,600 Speaker 2: by the NBA Championships are here, or at least they'll 1096 01:01:34,600 --> 01:01:37,120 Speaker 2: be here on Thursday. Prize Picks continues to be the 1097 01:01:37,160 --> 01:01:39,080 Speaker 2: app you want to have hand these the NBA Finals 1098 01:01:39,120 --> 01:01:42,760 Speaker 2: go off. 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