Speaker 1: Yeah, you got that's p ship. That's peep little, that's peak,
Speaker 1: that was pe spinish, it's pop. Listen to Lord or
Speaker 1: this belly. We listened to you talking about me? Don't
Speaker 1: you how you doing? Look you trying to You're trying
Speaker 1: to talk about me, right, you trying to talk about me? Huh?
Speaker 1: You a motherfucker. I'm talking about what you talking about me?
Speaker 1: With this love ship or this ain't no love sh
Speaker 1: this is you don't know what I'm playing. I want
Speaker 1: to be what I'm working with this though fred Friend's
Speaker 1: out Spanish constantly edged. Understand he's hit a composed all
Speaker 1: Spanish music, whether it's Dominican, Cuban, Colombian. This is belly.
Speaker 1: This is what you have your coffee in the morning.
Speaker 1: You turn this song in the morning, and this is
Speaker 1: how you start the morning at four five, say it's
Speaker 1: twelve o'clock. Now he's keeping it going, keeping it going.
Speaker 1: He gonna do everything. Let me get somebody like warning shit,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. You'll go to bed early
Speaker 1: only to start earlier. I know you man for Solder,
Speaker 1: You'll wake up some work, You'll get the cracking, you'll
Speaker 1: start cracking it for right right, So what you're shaking
Speaker 1: your head? What's the note? Fuck? I ain't saying. I
Speaker 1: ain't ask you, I'm telling you you damn do I
Speaker 1: need some ice? We're the ice out over there? Heart now,
Speaker 1: ain't hot shit? What this deal? I need some ice?
Speaker 1: This with this dude? I stop? This is the same
Speaker 1: lord I'm trying to get y'all right, Are you motherfuckers
Speaker 1: out here who need some smoothing out? Man? Get you
Speaker 1: some belly, man, get some nice some nice Spanish music
Speaker 1: man to smooth your morning's out. And if you got
Speaker 1: an ocean or something, just even make it better. Man,
Speaker 1: straight up, man, just right here, just to keep everything
Speaker 1: put push something to see your life? You too e
Speaker 1: you practice? You too much by yourself. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Get you a rebounder, man. Get you somebody
Speaker 1: that's gonna rebound for you know what I'm saying. Man,
Speaker 1: God damn, what y'all think is over? Man? You you
Speaker 1: see what I got on right? See these shorts? Why
Speaker 1: you know what type of shorts theeds are?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: I saw that. This is when you getting ready to hell?
Speaker 1: You hear me? When you know Saturday to Where are
Speaker 1: you going? Man? When you think where we're going three
Speaker 1: parade first, you're gonna say the parade you know I'm
Speaker 1: talking about. Okay, see this is the attire, okay, se
Speaker 1: when Indiana, well they warn that this one. They know
Speaker 1: the parade Saturday, this one they dances that quick today.
Speaker 1: The game oh ship man, I don't know what you
Speaker 1: wait one and that one game Saturn Sunday. No game seven, man, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a game seven, No game seven man?
Speaker 1: Who referenced? Like, man, let's get it, man, fuck all
Speaker 1: that right, let's get it to it. You know what
Speaker 1: time it is? Yes? Certain fast, certain certified, certain certain
Speaker 1: certain certain certain. It's a green summer. Yeah, we built different.
Speaker 1: You ain't watching the games like I'm watching it again.
Speaker 1: You'm outside, We're alive. It's fluid. That's when you stop
Speaker 1: the production that we go back and we want who referenced?
Speaker 1: Don't matter, Mark Davis, Zach Scott, Poup Foster, what you need?
Speaker 1: You're good, yes, sir, you're good? Good? All right? Yeah, man,
Speaker 1: let's get it. Crockett is good. It's big, it's you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. This vacation time. Hey, you know
Speaker 1: when you had the last day of school, it said,
Speaker 1: and just everybody getting the year, but everybody getting a
Speaker 1: yearbook signed right now, and everybody getting yearbooks numbers numbers
Speaker 1: for the summer. The worst man, right, you sign always
Speaker 1: I can find my year. But I got all that ship.
Speaker 1: That ship made me. Yeah really, I see you in
Speaker 1: the league. Catch me in the league. I was writing
Speaker 1: at my senior year you were, Yeah, Well.
Speaker 2: I want to ask you obviously. Game six Thursday, Game
Speaker 2: Game five Indiana tough go HALLI Burton cap strained, hurt,
Speaker 2: doesn't score a field goal. They have over twenty turnovers
Speaker 2: in the game. Just kind of the thoughts of game
Speaker 2: five and Jubbs perform.
Speaker 1: What was your thoughts on Game five? Can they'll play
Speaker 1: beat in that peak? Seems that they showed his chart
Speaker 1: every game he's played, he's gotten better, not significant note, yeah,
Speaker 1: you play.
Speaker 2: Better than forty twenty six in the series.
Speaker 1: First of all, they not doing nothing to make him uncomfortable.
Speaker 1: They made no adjustments. I saw no adjustments. You see
Speaker 1: how they playing the pick and roll? I would actually,
Speaker 1: can we trapp it one time? Kee me trapping? Can
Speaker 1: we just do something this going over the pick and
Speaker 1: roll at half court? You have you have to though
Speaker 1: at half court, you have to you know why the
Speaker 1: big man ain't help him. He ain't. But listen to me,
Speaker 1: why do I have to go over them? So he
Speaker 1: was mentality, if you go over the if you go
Speaker 1: under the pick, this is what he's doing, playing behind it.
Speaker 1: He played not even that, but he's you know, the Lord,
Speaker 1: the pick goes the harder to guard the pick. This
Speaker 1: is what the world does know, the Lord. You get
Speaker 1: the pick and roll. Specially if you get at the
Speaker 1: free throw line. Now the guard can come off. He
Speaker 1: can hit the footeenth foot of or you can throw
Speaker 1: back or at the drawing kick here you got p
Speaker 1: or somebody right here right. So when he when he
Speaker 1: coming down, they picking him up early because when you
Speaker 1: sit back pe, he taking the three go ahead, He
Speaker 1: hitting that ship pe, he hitting that man. He hitting
Speaker 1: the med He and the three man h not in
Speaker 1: this Smith? What's the other kid? We love the word
Speaker 1: nom heart, what's the out? The word the braze? You're
Speaker 1: playing hardest? Hell? Yeah? Sorry? Nie Smith was on him
Speaker 1: like line the line. He gave a simple in and
Speaker 1: out and took the three in bro Bro, you got
Speaker 1: the trap. This man got a trap, got a trapping.
Speaker 1: I guess what for five games, you gave him the
Speaker 1: same dose of the same Listen, good players, man, figure
Speaker 1: it out, man, I'm gonna figure it out game two.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna see what you by game two, I already
Speaker 1: know how I'm gonna come over the pig. I already
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go baseline. I already know i'm'a fake more come,
Speaker 1: I'm already knowing. So Shaye is like, you know what
Speaker 1: he ain't doing too. He ain't antagonizing nothing, he ain't
Speaker 1: giving nothing, no ex he you know he he gave
Speaker 1: him some a calm down, but it ain't nothing to
Speaker 1: make you more over zealous. Nim hard is playing the
Speaker 1: hardest and the best defense you can play on somebody
Speaker 1: like this, bro, And this is great a defense. Anybody
Speaker 1: else would have been rattled in this Bro has kept
Speaker 1: a constant constant, like a constant breath, just to be
Speaker 1: able to score. Get out. He understanding double teams. You
Speaker 1: gotta change it up with him, man, And they haven't
Speaker 1: changed it up. And I'm surprised we can't change. First
Speaker 1: of all, this is the MVP of the league. Stop
Speaker 1: giving him the same look. He's gonna like you said,
Speaker 1: let's trap him, let's play some song. Let's not pick
Speaker 1: up full court. Let's pick up full court like change
Speaker 1: like make him think. He ain't even thinking out there.
Speaker 1: He just like, Oh, it's just one okay, just what
Speaker 1: you giving me? All right? I got this all day?
Speaker 1: And didn't you have the free throw line taking two
Speaker 1: three dribbles? I'm like, oh what are y'all doing? No, man,
Speaker 1: you better run off lou Dordon trap that ever. But
Speaker 1: Lou dork is lit too. Go ahead, You're gonna have
Speaker 1: to make ten of these tonight because I know he
Speaker 1: can give me thirty every night. I don't know if
Speaker 1: you give me ten threes every night? You feel what
Speaker 1: I'm saying? And why? I like, what was so frustrated
Speaker 1: watching the game and see no adjustment made. It was
Speaker 1: almost watching like like it's like you Rick Carlisles being stubborn.
Speaker 1: He's like he's taking the TIBs right now, he's being stubborn,
Speaker 1: Like I know this's worked for you all year, but
Speaker 1: this is this is something else that you're gonna have
Speaker 1: to adjust to. So you know them old coaches, Well,
Speaker 1: the first thing the old coaches say to you is
Speaker 1: do it harder. Faster. What got us here?
Speaker 2: Do?
Speaker 1: What got us here?
Speaker 2: Na?
Speaker 1: But this is something else. You gotta be playing against
Speaker 1: the best team in the league sixteen wins and the
Speaker 1: MVP and the best player, right, and we ain't mean
Speaker 1: no adjustments to him to adjust right. Yeah, So that's
Speaker 1: why that's like damn, because Indiana is actually playing well
Speaker 1: enough to win. They are with the man now, they're
Speaker 1: playing well enough to win. And I think is the
Speaker 1: best player. I think. I think Halliburton is a game
Speaker 1: changer when he's when he's doing Halliburton Ship. Yeah, he
Speaker 1: affects it. But I don't by far think that he's
Speaker 1: their best player. I think he's clutched. He's been clutched,
Speaker 1: but has been the constant going this whole thing. Maclamore, name,
Speaker 1: Mauri ben Math excuse me. He's come off and been
Speaker 1: given some energy. But what we always say, Pete, the
Speaker 1: thing I judging everybody off of is the consistency. Can
Speaker 1: J Dob come back and give me another thirty plus
Speaker 1: game or a high twenty five game after dropping forty?
Speaker 1: You talk about superstars. To me, if you're a real
Speaker 1: superstar in this league, then you're consistent. That's that's my
Speaker 1: definition of a superstar, superstar. You don't got to say nothing.
Speaker 1: You know that month, you know when Yanni's hit the building,
Speaker 1: you know what time it is. You know when Shaq
Speaker 1: hit the building. You know what time. You know when
Speaker 1: p hit the tunnel. Cob all these month les hit that.
Speaker 1: You know what it is? Bro real shit. So this,
Speaker 1: this is what's telling me Shay has slid into and
Speaker 1: has put on the whole superstar outfit and zipped it up.
Speaker 1: It's onning. He's in it. He's in the club. He
Speaker 1: doing Jordan, Cole, Haquem, he on that list right now.
Speaker 1: So yeah, that that's that.
Speaker 2: That that I want to bring up is SGA joints, Jordan,
Speaker 2: Haquem and Kobe Is the only players score thirty plus
Speaker 2: more tea.
Speaker 1: Guess what that says?
Speaker 2: In one run, one playoff run, Yes, the team games.
Speaker 1: That's what that's. That's what that says. Nobody has adjusted,
Speaker 1: Nobody's trapped this listen, man, go back and look at
Speaker 1: Mike Man. The Pistons was trapping Mike. Mike had to
Speaker 1: learn to split get hit. That's another thing. Ain't nobody
Speaker 1: gave shayt no hard foul. Ain't ain't nothing changed, bro, Bro,
Speaker 1: the league too good, players, too good for you to
Speaker 1: just keep giving them a dose of the same ship.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, players are too good, too creative.
Speaker 1: And then he on the squad with a bunch of demons. Man,
Speaker 1: all of them. Man, listen, Louke Dork is up case
Speaker 1: so lit you got my man coming off the Beggins
Speaker 1: Wig Wiggins. He coming in here thinking it's suite mad
Speaker 1: coming this his own, bro, And it's hard to turn
Speaker 1: confidence off. So now you won in Indiana and you
Speaker 1: smell blood, and you know what, we gotta play one
Speaker 1: great game in Indiana and nothing else matters. And then
Speaker 1: we don't win that, we come back to the like, lord,
Speaker 1: it's over. They walking into Indiana, like walking into Indiana.
Speaker 1: Look look, oh wait, the trophy's here somewhere. Bully energy.
Speaker 1: This ropes over there, it's bully energy. The commissioner here.
Speaker 1: You start seeing the yellow tank. You see the commissioner
Speaker 1: at the game. Yeah, you see the he's sitting there,
Speaker 1: fifty yard line commissioner here today. Man, you know what
Speaker 1: that means he might have to raise that. You see
Speaker 1: all the owners in here, all the owners here on
Speaker 1: the plane. Man, they from the party in d Man,
Speaker 1: they already rented out. Now the party and then ship.
Speaker 1: Now the party. Man, you tripping. You think we're going
Speaker 1: to any to what you think we're going to any
Speaker 1: just to play a game?
Speaker 2: Man?
Speaker 1: You fucking mad? You tripped. And that's the first. This
Speaker 1: is our first one man, the whole champagne on them. Boy. Boy,
Speaker 1: they got the truck what they called the moe ed truck. Boy,
Speaker 1: they got the Seawan dandee. You're gonna see that. That's
Speaker 1: when you get excited. Boy, you see that Sean don Trump. Hey,
Speaker 1: if I'm d these hallways and about to smell like
Speaker 1: no champagne the night, listen, just over your heads. These
Speaker 1: hallways ain't about the bigger than you, big fellow. It's
Speaker 1: bigger than you, big man. Put them shirts away, just
Speaker 1: them shirts, and big fellow, with them shirts and Hats's
Speaker 1: gonna be a long ride night, big fellas. You put
Speaker 1: them shirts, take the long way home and half away.
Speaker 1: Open them boxes, send them boxes back to Okay. See,
Speaker 1: because that's a no hat. That's a championship shirt, I smell.
Speaker 1: Send them boxes back to Okay. That the trophy, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's trophy you smell. Oh, listen, bro listen, put them
Speaker 1: ropes down. Put the ropes down. Excuse me, shirky, you
Speaker 1: get off the edge. I need to get this yellow
Speaker 1: tape right here. Excuse me, sir, security, We don't know,
Speaker 1: they're not gonna we're not gonna need that security, sir boy,
Speaker 1: this f put that stage. Put that stage. I wouldn't
Speaker 1: be back in the storage. I wouldn't be surprised if
Speaker 1: that stage back in the storage. National Army, y'all, you're
Speaker 1: gonna have to build the stage on this floor tonight.
Speaker 1: Put that back in storage. No, no, not tonight.
Speaker 2: So doing that one way or another, one of you
Speaker 2: guys is going to be right. Ticket you had you.
Speaker 1: Either way ain't gonna pay. But yeah, you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: you smiling like it's all cool. Disrespecting man. There's a
Speaker 1: bus off peak. Get your orange and blue ready, right,
Speaker 1: you get your orange and blue ready and go get
Speaker 1: that Smurf blue so we know that you really okay,
Speaker 1: see you feel me, get your okay see ready, okay,
Speaker 1: see ready, go get the blue window. Not that I'm
Speaker 1: not the fab about figure Smurf Blue.
Speaker 2: One thing I want to ask you about a couple
Speaker 2: of weeks ago, we spoke about the importance of Game
Speaker 2: four and how we feel like Game four super the
Speaker 2: Pacers up late in the third quarter, it looked like
Speaker 2: they were gonna go up three to one. Fast forward
Speaker 2: to today. Now they're down three to two, no matter
Speaker 2: of two games and just kind of what's that like
Speaker 2: from a player's perspective of you're already kind of thinking
Speaker 2: ahead of like, hey, we might be up three to
Speaker 2: one and now they're down three.
Speaker 1: We got to let that go. We can't if we
Speaker 1: if we play, we come into game six with that
Speaker 1: mentality we lost already. What I'm saying is, look, fella,
Speaker 1: if I'm in the locker room, I'm like, look, man,
Speaker 1: we listen. We smoked Game four. You know why we
Speaker 1: smoked games in Indiana said this is what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: We smoked Game four. Y'all. Y'all know that, right. We
Speaker 1: better than them. We better than them. We smoked Game five, looquing.
Speaker 1: We turned the ball over twenty two times. That's preseason shit.
Speaker 1: We should have were one of the best teams to
Speaker 1: take care of the ball. We we literally gave them
Speaker 1: Game four and we gave them Game five. We played
Speaker 1: well enough to win. We outshot them percentage wise. We
Speaker 1: out rebounded them. The only thing we kept up on
Speaker 1: the free throwss. The only thing we did wrong was
Speaker 1: turn the ball over and halliburt and he didn't play well.
Speaker 1: If we turned the ball over thirteen times, we win
Speaker 1: because we outshot him, well, rebounded him. We did everything
Speaker 1: defensively played. They surely shot forty two.
Speaker 2: Okay, she got thirty off turnovers.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but thirty two points. We cut that in half.
Speaker 1: Let's gi him fifteen points off turnovers. We win, Like
Speaker 1: what we we shooting ourselves in the foot? He come on, man,
Speaker 1: be better than them? Straight up? What they doing? What
Speaker 1: they doing. They're being consistent, they're plying pressure. And every
Speaker 1: motherfucker that's on the floor is a two way player.
Speaker 1: That means he has the ability to give you some work,
Speaker 1: hit you I and then get it and getting right
Speaker 1: up on your ass in ninety four and turn you
Speaker 1: and then guess what the guy coming in for him
Speaker 1: he doing the same shit. He can hit a three,
Speaker 1: he can put you in the bag. And then he
Speaker 1: turned around. Lord, this is the deepest two way fucking
Speaker 1: team I've ever seen. Case So Isaiah, Joe fucking uh,
Speaker 1: what's my boy name? Caruso. Bro, it's a buzzsaw. Bro.
Speaker 1: They got the smurf blue buzzsaal going bro, maw bro,
Speaker 1: you're talking about what they do. What they do is
Speaker 1: you lock into their best player and then they second
Speaker 1: player is activated. What you don't know is that seven, eight, nine, ten,
Speaker 1: eleven can also smoke your ass too, and they live.
Speaker 1: So when you sit him back, then oh that's case.
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna get three ball boom he up, Okay,
Speaker 1: come back down, you get a turn Okay, I'm chilling
Speaker 1: in the corner boat. That's why, Lord, you can't lock
Speaker 1: into this team. You have to take the head, chop
Speaker 1: the head off, and hope these other parts just get
Speaker 1: the moving. They have not stopped their head. They have
Speaker 1: not been in confidence, and no point is okay see
Speaker 1: feeling like man, they're not uncomfortable, That's what I'm saying, Pete. So, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what, y'all did have twenty something. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: we did turn it over and have thirty two points
Speaker 1: off those turnovers. Guess what, y'all fucking up? Two we
Speaker 1: fucking up. But the difference is that effort. You get
Speaker 1: a second and third effort from these motherfuckers. Pete. Somebody
Speaker 1: got to hit the floor. Get the flu Bro, you
Speaker 1: gotta meet the level right and you can't have a
Speaker 1: nim Hart and you can't have a siakam when they
Speaker 1: going to a fourteen seconds on mind? Fuck no, it's
Speaker 1: like man, they dribbled, man tompling, Obi toppling first game,
Speaker 1: was looking at the three, he was spotting up, he
Speaker 1: was squaring up. Bro, he's been playing fucking a figure eight.
Speaker 1: Catching the ball, dribble hand off. I ain't got nothing,
Speaker 1: slip go to the corner another lord, ain't nobody looking
Speaker 1: at the basket right, Bro? With Shane come down, I'm
Speaker 1: activating as soon as I come across half. That's why
Speaker 1: he got to meet him at half court. Then guess
Speaker 1: what if I hand min it Caruso? They looking for
Speaker 1: the court or nothing? Come out, get back to the head. Lord.
Speaker 1: I'm just watching the consistency on how they are just
Speaker 1: just just it's it's just a it's there, it's a
Speaker 1: liver punch and then it's back and go. Another body punches. Lord,
Speaker 1: they ain't covering up, backing up through a kick. Ain't
Speaker 1: they ain't back these niggas up for nothing? No hard
Speaker 1: files being shippy. I love that, like this is what
Speaker 1: got you there, but this is this is is you
Speaker 1: gotta change up? We're saying that, We're saying. I'm just
Speaker 1: saying you gotta meet the level two though. Pe Okay,
Speaker 1: see this smells blood, and that's what I'm saying. It's
Speaker 1: gonna Listen, this game. The first five minutes is gonna
Speaker 1: tell me everything. And the last five minutes. Lord, the
Speaker 1: game one was one in the last two minutes of it.
Speaker 1: You hear me, And I don't know if Indiana has
Speaker 1: that type of fight in them. We're gonna see them home.
Speaker 1: Everybody's here, your loved ones in the stands the season Listen.
Speaker 1: Do you really want a celebration out here? Do you
Speaker 1: really want things clean here? Sir? To bring me? That's
Speaker 1: really what it comes down to. I'm trying to say,
Speaker 1: who was in the locker room for Indiana giving on that.
Speaker 1: Jim Jones, James Jones, Jane Man, jans Man. Are you serious?
Speaker 1: I'm just James Jones over there, got everybody on karate Kid.
Speaker 1: Damn you signed you not man? You hear me, Man Brod.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised if it's a hard if it's
Speaker 1: a couple of hard files. Game six, I'm expecting the
Speaker 1: Pacers to go out on their shield. If the Pacers
Speaker 1: gonna lose, I think, man, it's gonna be some It's
Speaker 1: gonna be some ship. I don't think they're just gonna
Speaker 1: go like, Okay, cool man, hey man, good shit. Nah No,
Speaker 1: it's listen. They was chippy with Milwaukee. They was chippy
Speaker 1: with fucking Cleveland. They was chippy with you know, they
Speaker 1: weren't that chippy with Bee, but they were shipping in
Speaker 1: them first. You know what I'm saying. There was a
Speaker 1: lot of chippiness in the Milwaukee series. You remember that
Speaker 1: Milwaukee steris man faces gotta come out and fight like dolls.
Speaker 1: Just just all it is, or it's over because because
Speaker 1: okayc is confident and the bus allays going and they
Speaker 1: smell blood. You need one more game? Yeah, get the
Speaker 1: shorts up, get you know what I'm saying, get it ready.
Speaker 2: Speaking of chippiness, I don't know if you saw Tuesday
Speaker 2: night the Indiana Fever Connecticut Sun game with with Kaylen
Speaker 2: Clark saw that what yeah, she was they were they
Speaker 2: were you know, like I raked by a person that
Speaker 2: she's gone head to head with throughout college and high school.
Speaker 2: They grew up together. This lady named Jayce Shelton and
Speaker 2: then a player named Maybury kind of checked her, knocked
Speaker 2: her down. They didn't eject her and the game. What
Speaker 2: game was this versus Connecticut Son?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, okay, okay, I missed out.
Speaker 2: Yes, sir, and right, Kaitlyn Clark has a good game.
Speaker 2: They win the game. Late in the game, the girl
Speaker 2: that raked that uh at Caitlyn's face was driving down
Speaker 2: the floor. Player Sophie Cunningham wraps her up, throws her
Speaker 2: to the ground and kind of like Movie Tide, clinches her. Yes,
Speaker 2: there was some chippiness there and the rest, in my opinion,
Speaker 2: didn't really have control of the game, and it seemed
Speaker 2: like they took it into their own hands. And do
Speaker 2: you do you like seeing a player kind of stick
Speaker 2: up for their teammate in that way?
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's our that's our Arab basketball. Like
Speaker 1: pretty much like the girls. If you noticed over the
Speaker 1: last couple of years, they've been a little more chippy
Speaker 1: than the men. They've been they they've been bringing that.
Speaker 1: That's what it's being like. I ain't seeing that in
Speaker 1: this in this finals like, I ain't seeing no chippings energy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I ain't seeing that. No, I ain't seeing it like
Speaker 1: you got it once you get the game four. It's
Speaker 1: it's it's it's edginess what it's like once you get
Speaker 1: the game four. Like, I mean, come on, what game three?
Speaker 1: Game one? Game one? Man, the physical element is in
Speaker 1: the game when you start being physical game four me, No,
Speaker 1: I'm saying for them, ours ours ours ours always started
Speaker 1: off like the first player of the game, me and
Speaker 1: roundal test locking up. Remember that first first jump ball
Speaker 1: the edge and this was right there, right right at
Speaker 1: the jump ball we locked up Game one. Though you
Speaker 1: expect for show that you think that the physical element
Speaker 1: is leaving our game a little bit. It's it's been
Speaker 1: they've been allowing it. But I ain't seeing like I'm
Speaker 1: seeing battles. I ain't seeing no wars. This don't look
Speaker 1: like a war, you know what I'm saying, Like the
Speaker 1: real war. Like when we was playing against Cleveland, when
Speaker 1: it was playing Detroit, these was all and all our
Speaker 1: series was wars like these weren't no battles. This was
Speaker 1: war like. It's a lot of diving, it's a lot
Speaker 1: of like second and third effort, man, Man, like what
Speaker 1: I ain't seeing nobody dive nowhere like going after like
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like they like, damn, you mean something too. But I
Speaker 1: actually did see it in the next series versus Indiana,
Speaker 1: I did see it. That was a war. I ain't
Speaker 1: gonna lie about. That was a war. And I thought
Speaker 1: that Detroit, when I ain't seeing Indiana, ain't gotta make
Speaker 1: this a war tonight because they got to. They got
Speaker 1: to make it award tonight. I thought it was always
Speaker 1: big to to not only support teammates, but to show
Speaker 1: you know, like even in my Minnesota days, man, I've
Speaker 1: always taken a lawyer teach all the players that's on
Speaker 1: the team, and yeah, man, it helps confidences, helped continuity,
Speaker 1: you know, and then too for that to be your
Speaker 1: best player, you gotta you gotta protect the best player.
Speaker 1: And uh, I want to especially when I got to Boston, Man,
Speaker 1: I wanted to make sure that all of the bigs
Speaker 1: because usually the biggs are the ones that enforce picks
Speaker 1: hard fils, you know what I'm saying stuff like this,
Speaker 1: but not just the bigs, but I wanted all of
Speaker 1: us to be on the same page as far us
Speaker 1: how we protect each other out here, you know. And
Speaker 1: then we was always conscious of matchups when we played
Speaker 1: the Heat or when we played certain teams to where
Speaker 1: certain guys had, you know, different different complex relationships with whoever.
Speaker 1: You know, we knew we played Detroit and Rip with Ray,
Speaker 1: you know, we know he had like three four motherfuckers
Speaker 1: that we had, you know what I'm saying. So everybody
Speaker 1: was on it, and I think you gotta be like that. Man.
Speaker 1: You got a girl like Caitlin on your team, and
Speaker 1: you gotta star on your team like Luca or bron. Yeah,
Speaker 1: some hitters on that team that will go hard for
Speaker 1: the main player. You know what I'm saying, And as
Speaker 1: it should. But I think the physical element, it's just
Speaker 1: part of the game, man, And I don't know why
Speaker 1: we keep trying to discount it, but you know, basketball
Speaker 1: is a physical sport and that physicality actually comes into
Speaker 1: play into how you play. You're getting stronger, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Fucking off us playing defense on you
Speaker 1: ain't now, but you being stronger, being able to be
Speaker 1: in a distress, you know, situation and didn't deal with it.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So yeah, I'm rambling a
Speaker 1: little bit, but I'm going on some shit like that. Continuity.
Speaker 1: You gotta have that, and you gotta be together because
Speaker 1: teams see when you don't go to help a guy up,
Speaker 1: or if p fall and none of us running it,
Speaker 1: none none of us running him. Or when you see
Speaker 1: a guy falling, you don't see teammates pick him up
Speaker 1: or pick her up. That's what your team is, you
Speaker 1: hear me, because you sprint to your your best player.
Speaker 1: You sprint guys, get down, you know, rondo for somebody
Speaker 1: you know, you get it, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: And then that help, that helps him because man, when
Speaker 1: you not like that, you can actually be the team
Speaker 1: and separate them while you playing.
Speaker 2: In your guys' opinion, do you feel like Caitlyn Clark
Speaker 2: gets kind of targeted at some of these games.
Speaker 1: Or so she gets targeted just like Jordan got targeted.
Speaker 1: It's the privilege you're the best player. The Jordan rules.
Speaker 1: They have the Jordan rules. When you're so good, yeah,
Speaker 1: you're gonna get targeted. It just is what it is.
Speaker 1: Absolutely like, come on, man, that's it. You gotta like
Speaker 1: when you at a disadvantage, Like I feel like, just
Speaker 1: like boxing or something, if I if I, if you
Speaker 1: fighting against the best, you gotta do something. Junk it up.
Speaker 1: I gotta hold a little bit more. I gotta I
Speaker 1: gotta elbow, I gotta go out. I gotta take you
Speaker 1: out of your element, make it make you uncomfortable. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I gotta do stuff that, Like, I gotta hold on
Speaker 1: you a little more. I gotta like do some some
Speaker 1: bullshit because you figure the skill for skill. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: gotta junk this up. I gotta bring you down on
Speaker 1: my level. Now you know what I'm saying, Like, I
Speaker 1: gotta do something where you ain't use some motherfucker's doing
Speaker 1: to you. So yeah, I'm an elbow. You kick you
Speaker 1: a little bit, maybe get a technical or do something different, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to do that to bring you down.
Speaker 1: Now you out, Now you mentally like, oh damn, Like
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, I gotta make this a
Speaker 1: bar fight. A privilege too, though, it's a privilege. Though,
Speaker 1: it's the privilege to be in a position where others
Speaker 1: are hating on you, and when others are hating on you,
Speaker 1: that means you're doing something right. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: For sure, you getting a motherfucker and you seeing their eyes,
Speaker 1: they man, you can see in their eyes and a
Speaker 1: motherfucker be red eyes steaming, really huffing and puff. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm you know, I'm on these people that can feel energy,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So you know, you get
Speaker 1: up on the you come into a lead. I come
Speaker 1: into like dapping somebody I can feel in a depth
Speaker 1: on what he own, you know what I'm saying. Or
Speaker 1: when the jump ball going, you go to run of
Speaker 1: your spot month for my you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So all that I'm paying attention to. And that physical
Speaker 1: element is a real element that you gotta work through.
Speaker 1: And if you can't work through it, sometimes it hinders you.
Speaker 1: Because bro, if I watch it, see in the league,
Speaker 1: they watch film. So if motherfucker saw you on film
Speaker 1: being a cur on some other shit, actually the next
Speaker 1: week of you know, contenders, well actually see that and
Speaker 1: play to that, and they'll put you in the Scout
Speaker 1: report hey can get rather than all this other shit.
Speaker 1: So you always gotta be in line of not only
Speaker 1: your own energy, but the next man's energy too, and
Speaker 1: control and controlling yourself. You know, p I thought about
Speaker 1: this the other day. Everybody always creaked. Oh man, motherfucker fight.
Speaker 1: You know how hard it is not to fight? Yea,
Speaker 1: how hard it is for a neggat you something and
Speaker 1: you gotta taken it. Then you gotta actually, you gotta,
Speaker 1: you gotta, you gotta, you gotta eat that. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, for the betterment of what this whole
Speaker 1: thing is. You know what I'm saying, That's hard, man.
Speaker 1: To keep your composure in a heated situation is very hard. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: so you know, nobody talks about composure. Nobody talks about
Speaker 1: it's already said radic energy. Bro. Yeah, you know, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, because nobody plays the bigger person
Speaker 1: in that whole exchange, right, but the bigger person wins
Speaker 1: in that exchange. You know what I'm saying. It might
Speaker 1: not look pretty, yeah, however, whoever, but yeah, on some
Speaker 1: real shit, that's how that really goes. And the physical
Speaker 1: element is a real part of it. You know how
Speaker 1: a motherfucker quick or he's strong or whatever, him being
Speaker 1: physical is also an element of stopping you or you
Speaker 1: you actually winning the matchup. You know what I'm saying
Speaker 1: for sure, but it's real. We don't talk about the
Speaker 1: physical element today because I bet you Carl Alone, matter
Speaker 1: of fact, go watch this Carl Alone. I think he
Speaker 1: was with the Lakers and they was playing the Spurs
Speaker 1: and Tony Parker. I think first game came off of
Speaker 1: a cut. And when I say, he remember you can
Speaker 1: clip member, Yeah, he clipped him. You know, he clipped
Speaker 1: them off of a off of a off of a
Speaker 1: five cut. He came and cut off the big like
Speaker 1: looking for it in the lane. Mane study up. He man,
Speaker 1: Tony Parking didn't go to the fucking uh. He didn't
Speaker 1: go to the Cup. No no more. In the series
Speaker 1: and they swept and they swept San Antonio. I don't
Speaker 1: know what year that was, but I'm pretty sure it
Speaker 1: was Carmelan. I think it was on the left side.
Speaker 1: It was early in the game. I remember to be
Speaker 1: four man. He went he oh, four pisses one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: probably because Carl Loan was on the right. He went
Speaker 1: through to look for a p and then the worst
Speaker 1: bowls like you get braced for a boat that you
Speaker 1: see right, but when you look at lord that that
Speaker 1: are knocked that in the game no more huh, the
Speaker 1: game they took clipping out because once you got clipped, right, bro,
Speaker 1: you had to be a different You had to be
Speaker 1: a demon to go back in there, right, and then
Speaker 1: when you got here, you had to pop up and
Speaker 1: look up coming right back, big fella, don't even worry
Speaker 1: about it. That's cool. I'm glad you and you got
Speaker 1: to say that for yourself. And did you got to
Speaker 1: come back in there when you see motherfuckers dunking that
Speaker 1: motherfucker trying to rip it off? That's because something went
Speaker 1: on in here to where I felt like I had
Speaker 1: to come in here with the super boom sonic boom.
Speaker 1: You know the sonic boom. You remember that you used
Speaker 1: to have to come in there with the one hand
Speaker 1: sonic boom. Yeah, Like like like, what's the big fella?
Speaker 1: Sean Browley, he used to talk dead crazy to you,
Speaker 1: try to clip you, bowl you. So when you're going
Speaker 1: in to dunk on his ass, you in there trying
Speaker 1: to wipe your ass with his ass, Like, yeah, they
Speaker 1: want to smoke, he wanted you know what I'm saying. So, yeah,
Speaker 1: I drifted on some ship right there. My bad, But yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah you gotta bring pain man, because because that's what
Speaker 1: really motherfuckers is trying to do. They trying to intimidate
Speaker 1: you through physicality. Damn my bad. I had to go
Speaker 1: there though. Yeah, all right.
Speaker 2: The Orlando Magic, they make a trade with the Memphis Grizzlies.
Speaker 2: They get Desmond Baine, They dish out KCP Cole Anthony,
Speaker 2: four first round picks and a pick swap too much
Speaker 2: for band?
Speaker 1: What do you think? So let me say something before
Speaker 1: we ain't even get into Orlando. Is this the writing on.
Speaker 2: The wall.
Speaker 1: For what Memphis? I don't know. Nah, you still got
Speaker 1: two All Stars. You still got Jahn and Jared Jack Junior. Like, Nah,
Speaker 1: we gotta we just gotta move from pieces around. We
Speaker 1: gotta upgrade, clearly because we ain where we want to be,
Speaker 1: and he's a valuable piece. So if we can find
Speaker 1: it through some more depth, if we can add depth
Speaker 1: and possibly some draft picks, because that's where the league
Speaker 1: is going. Look look at Okay, see look at Indiana.
Speaker 1: They both got like one or two stars, two stars,
Speaker 1: and they got depth. Hey, Memphis got they two stars.
Speaker 1: We gotta add depth now. So if we gotta do
Speaker 1: it through the trade of one of our main pieces,
Speaker 1: and we can add more pieces that can help. Man,
Speaker 1: that's the way the league is going. I like the
Speaker 1: trade for Memphis, and I like it for Orlando because
Speaker 1: now you've got a player that you can kind of
Speaker 1: depend on now somebody, Yeah, you can depend on hold
Speaker 1: on you can depend on him the knock down shots
Speaker 1: because we can't shoot. But he was part of the corrido. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I don't. I don't because he was the one
Speaker 1: that was expendable out of everybody that we got to
Speaker 1: have to have value. You know what I'm saying. I'm
Speaker 1: not giving my two all stars up, but he got
Speaker 1: the most value outside of them, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: to better us, Yeah, to better us. Yeah, he had
Speaker 1: the most out of the top to do what he did.
Speaker 1: Though nobody shoots it like we gotta we gotta find
Speaker 1: accumulation of players. Yeah, but think about this, Like you
Speaker 1: look at OKC. They got Caruso, Wiggins and Iso. One
Speaker 1: of them gonna play good instead of depending on when
Speaker 1: to play good that might be up and down every game.
Speaker 1: One of them that had a good game, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So now I'm I'm gonna spread it
Speaker 1: out through three motherfuckers to where like, all right, all
Speaker 1: of y'all are gonna play bad. One of y'all gonna
Speaker 1: give us something tonight, So I'm gonna add trade him.
Speaker 1: Let me get y'all three. So you think this is
Speaker 1: a new wave of where this is where deeper? Yeah,
Speaker 1: and here we go, Here we go again, Here we
Speaker 1: go again, Like the Knick's gonna have to do something right.
Speaker 1: We gotta GETT nine to eleven now right, Ye, it
Speaker 1: ain't no more. Matter of fact, you might have a
Speaker 1: chance to get like a monster like it didn't get
Speaker 1: a bunch of cools. Yeah, yeah, but that's development.
Speaker 2: Bro.
Speaker 1: They developed all those boys down there and in uh in. Okay,
Speaker 1: see bro, you got can you can you develop? Can
Speaker 1: you developing? You got two starters on rookie contracts? Right yeah, okay, see.
Speaker 2: Yeah JW's money kicked the chest chests. Yeah, Chet's money
Speaker 2: has not kicked in yet.
Speaker 1: They got two starters on rookie contracts. If I'm Houston,
Speaker 1: I'm watching OKC and I'm following that same structure because
Speaker 1: you're you're you're right there. You have two three more
Speaker 1: pieces to Houston. They got a whole different thing. But yeah,
Speaker 1: jumping back to what we was talking about. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I thought Bang was part of their core. Man, you
Speaker 1: know he was there. I think Orlando went and got
Speaker 1: went and got him because they was having problems with
Speaker 1: outside shooting and the reason they brought K. C. P
Speaker 1: in there, which because of that, he had a high
Speaker 1: rate coming from Denver, had a three ball, had a clip.
Speaker 1: That's kind of dilemmas, right, yep. So now he's moving
Speaker 1: on to Memphis. Defensively, I love this for them, but yeah, man,
Speaker 1: yes's hard when you see like that third piece go
Speaker 1: and did not think of Wow, just Jai And I
Speaker 1: know Orlando see the window opportunity too right now because
Speaker 1: look at the east. The East is Indiana right now
Speaker 1: coming out the east, then Boston dealing with some injuries.
Speaker 1: You gotta have eleven to beat Indiana. If you ain't
Speaker 1: got nine ten, you can't beat Indiana. Who's the favorite
Speaker 1: next year? Indiana? Stop? Stop, they don't do that. That's
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Something ain't even got here. Nigga still
Speaker 1: on vacation still, But I'm saying that's so, and saying
Speaker 1: that Orlando see a winner, window of opportunity. Lando, Orlando
Speaker 1: has got deeper in there they getting getting Did they
Speaker 1: get better with that? Hell? Yeah, Orlando got better with that.
Speaker 2: They were twenty seventh in offense last year and they
Speaker 2: were one of the lowest scoring teams in the league.
Speaker 1: And then they couldn't shoot and.
Speaker 2: Desmond Bane's a career forty point shooter and over.
Speaker 1: My service, guess what until Polo gets hurt again, he
Speaker 1: out thirty games. Okay, they miss thirty games, missed thirty games.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying it. Look, they're gonna be a top
Speaker 1: three team in the East. Huh, They're gonna be a
Speaker 1: top three team in the East next year and record
Speaker 1: this man, we got thee red I see the red light.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Plow and Franz missed a lot of games
Speaker 2: going and they were they were they were.
Speaker 1: Still a playoff I'm sorry, Nate, go ahead.
Speaker 2: With the miss games between those two guys. They were
Speaker 2: still a top three defense and and made the play
Speaker 2: We're a playoff team. So if you get those guys
Speaker 2: healthy and you ad band, you think that up.
Speaker 1: It was the number. There was a number seven seeds
Speaker 1: this year, right, uh, and they gave Boston some issues.
Speaker 1: Polo is unstoppable. Stop stop stop what what you're saying,
Speaker 1: stop stop saying they gave what four? One is a problem?
Speaker 1: I mean, what didn't do that at home? It wasn't that,
Speaker 1: it was what one fall one? But Pablo issue out
Speaker 1: of here. He's one. Yeah, they couldn't shoot and Boston
Speaker 1: was bored full one. Yeah for sure, but they Yeah,
Speaker 1: Orlando won't smoke next year with whoever. Though, I'm telling
Speaker 1: you right now, I'm going I see I've seen you
Speaker 1: at training camp. I'm seeing what you look like a
Speaker 1: training camp. I'm seeing you need one more piece though
Speaker 1: they need one more pan. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So Suggs and Isaac are trade pieces that you could consider.
Speaker 2: But Suggs is one of the better defensive guys along
Speaker 2: with Isaac's.
Speaker 1: Isaac's He's He's been injured a lot.
Speaker 2: Sugs is two Suggs thirty five games last year.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Suggs, he's injured a lot too. But I like
Speaker 1: his his defense, his defense, he picking up. I like
Speaker 1: that Cole Anthony, I like that trading traded him. So
Speaker 1: I'm saying what I'm saying he was. But I'm saying
Speaker 1: you and the West. You know what I'm saying. We're
Speaker 1: in the West. You gotta be deepest hell. That's what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Orlando got a window right now, I don't
Speaker 1: know if it's enough or they better in Cleveland, not
Speaker 1: right now? Okay, cool in Boston, don't. I don't. I
Speaker 1: don't know what Cleveland is after they got they got deal,
Speaker 1: how they got deal. They got done by Indiana, not
Speaker 1: by Lando. Nobody better than or the bed in Boston. No,
Speaker 1: they're not better than Coston. Cool, that's it. I don't
Speaker 1: need no splace, but better in New York. I don't know,
Speaker 1: Okay cool, because if you don't, then that's a note.
Speaker 1: I don't know who because if it's a yes, U yes,
Speaker 1: that's all I'm saying. They knows they are probably right now.
Speaker 1: That's we don't even know what New York got. They
Speaker 1: can't beat New York right now. They picked, they can't
Speaker 1: beat Boston, and they can't be in Indiana on top,
Speaker 1: I ain't even name Indiana. They like five Bro and
Speaker 1: they cool. And then if one of them pieces get hurt,
Speaker 1: that whole ship gone feel me because the Wagner, the
Speaker 1: second Wagner is supposed to be what when they is?
Speaker 1: And then when Dale on the foe in that faux
Speaker 1: five complex or something. Now everybody doing well. Okay, see
Speaker 1: doing four smalls shooting around the big big road to
Speaker 1: the rim, and now we did it. It's ma'am road.
Speaker 1: Remember when everybody needed a big and everybody wanted to
Speaker 1: play like Joker. You got to have a big who
Speaker 1: can be right? Maye Rudy go bear popular way to
Speaker 1: get a bonus. That's what they need from. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that'll be a big movie where Lando for one of them,
Speaker 1: young for the young, for the for the other, Wagner
Speaker 1: he hurt. He come on, face, he ain't gonna work. Wagner.
Speaker 2: Wagner the money. The money wouldn't work either, because now.
Speaker 1: I got some draft picks, right Yeah, but now.
Speaker 2: Data Orlando entered the second apron. So the way it works,
Speaker 2: all the money going out has to match the money
Speaker 2: coming in. Yeah yeah, so Bin kind of ate up
Speaker 2: a lot of that salary cap for them. But you
Speaker 2: got a guy under contract for the next three or
Speaker 2: four years.
Speaker 1: He need to play my lead man. They need to play.
Speaker 1: They need to just play video games. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Being there is one of was spinning. Let
Speaker 1: them spinning, man funk all that. Man, All right, man,
Speaker 1: let's let him. Let's let him go, Yo, let them
Speaker 1: motherfucker go. Like all this tax and all this that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: all this, man, we want to see it fresh out.
Speaker 1: And I don't know if y'all paying attention, but it
Speaker 1: seems like the world is starting to like starting the
Speaker 1: massage this one on one thing a little more. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Ever since Bees and you know,
Speaker 1: Boring already got out there, did they want to I'm
Speaker 1: hearing a lot of you know what I want to
Speaker 1: ask you, bro, since you was a prolific one on one,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, get your one on one
Speaker 1: that bro, I saw you work. Who beat has anyone
Speaker 1: beat you in one on one before? Other than myself?
Speaker 1: When hold on, Paul and I used to funk around
Speaker 1: before the game and play one on one. That's the
Speaker 1: only thing. I'm one possession at one possession. Then some
Speaker 1: nights I would hear it. Some nights I was, and
Speaker 1: vice versa. That's why I'm talking ship to him because
Speaker 1: I actually beat his ass. Did talk crazy to hear
Speaker 1: when I said the warm up? You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: We didn't fuck with nobody else with anybody us came
Speaker 1: on and trying to get like, no, watch out watch
Speaker 1: way two while before the nigga trying to play one
Speaker 1: before right before the game. No, no, go ahead, go ahead,
Speaker 1: tell him over. I might come on here and just
Speaker 1: buoy him in the back. Let's the hardest fun. I'm
Speaker 1: not going like, let's go wake up, wake up, turn,
Speaker 1: turn some steak, tell some sting. I'm dripping too, like
Speaker 1: I just hit him, Like come on, look, get your
Speaker 1: mind right.
Speaker 2: You're putting the battery in his back.
Speaker 1: You're trying him. Damn dude. He tried. Then we're gonna
Speaker 1: do this every game, one possession and didn't everybody gonna
Speaker 1: stop and watch us. And it looked realist, fun, real
Speaker 1: real quick, Like it's Rogers Sparks for like thirty seconds,
Speaker 1: right right, real quick. We get it on. I'm ready, alright,
Speaker 1: I'm ready. I dropped the ball and that's cool. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm already dripping that. And then I'm waiting on him
Speaker 1: some nights, I'm like, what that niggah? He not spin
Speaker 1: it out? No hold on what you're gonna do with
Speaker 1: the nigga? Nowever, we get real physical, real physics real
Speaker 1: quick for the game. Does anybody beat you one on one,
Speaker 1: toughest one on one, damn give me that. Not on
Speaker 1: the selfis na man, this crack everybody, it's a line. No.
Speaker 1: This was like we were going one and if we
Speaker 1: ain't doing ones that Doc would be like, hold on,
Speaker 1: let them finish like the ones before practice because I'm
Speaker 1: getting all the wings. Like, let's go, y'all, I get
Speaker 1: all the ones. That was. That was That was my
Speaker 1: get ready for practice though. I give my shots to
Speaker 1: Ronald Truman. Lit boom woman. Now we won. Let's go.
Speaker 1: Let's go. Now all the wings, let's go, let's go.
Speaker 1: Who want line them up? Let's go get this ship.
Speaker 1: Then we shipped back and then it's real. It's real.
Speaker 1: So who beat you in one on one summer anything
Speaker 1: I'm talking about? You said nobody. J Crow used to
Speaker 1: get off because we didn't play like at least a
Speaker 1: thousand games of one. So he'll get something off. Uh,
Speaker 1: but they remember viron quit remember vine Way for quit?
Speaker 1: He quit. I think I beat him like eleven zero
Speaker 1: or sling though and laying I'm good. He's like I'm good.
Speaker 1: Ticket was like you good. He's like, come on man,
Speaker 1: I was like I was just like your f a
Speaker 1: shit after practice. I think this was after practice folk,
Speaker 1: just before practice. This was before and you was man, lord,
Speaker 1: and I know it was over because you had your
Speaker 1: little blue black and I saw the little blue boy
Speaker 1: right there. Man, you're talking that mother ship. What's up?
Speaker 1: And then Varn been like, yeah, you've been running. So
Speaker 1: they get out there. Everybody kind of see it. Then
Speaker 1: I heard one, you know, we get on, shove on.
Speaker 1: That's thing five list you know seven. I moped them. Man,
Speaker 1: come on, man, I looked up and said, damn, Varn,
Speaker 1: you ain't get a basket. He's like, come on, man,
Speaker 1: get out here, get a bucket. Ship, so you're gonna
Speaker 1: quit the night when we get out here, ship. Mannigg like,
Speaker 1: I'm good Man, an't gonna go ahead and play hard.
Speaker 1: I'm looking at this nigga. I was like, then, I'm
Speaker 1: looking like, you mean I should jump out here? When
Speaker 1: you look you just in the ship to t up
Speaker 1: on man, man making me sound like Hermit the frog.
Speaker 1: Now come on, listen, that's the p boys ball. It's crazy.
Speaker 1: You gotta hit the you gotta smack the teeth. You
Speaker 1: ain't standing give it. Yeah, that's my my gate, your
Speaker 1: dan dong. Yeah yeah, that's the gate. Somebody man, get
Speaker 1: some guards, man, get some bigger dogs. Man, I told
Speaker 1: you that somebody bringing I got. I got hit the
Speaker 1: dog and ship like said he was killing dog, dog
Speaker 1: jumping man gate. The dogs went up on me. Hey boy,
Speaker 1: you alright now, he remember making course, so though he
Speaker 1: wouldn't messing with him, hold with come get this moll fuck.
Speaker 1: I'm like, damn, person, you don't know me, can't course
Speaker 1: stare at you. You're gonna look that that motherfucker lamb lamb.
Speaker 1: I'm forna looking down at me. I'm like, damn, man,
Speaker 1: I'm standing up like getting the dog. Man the dog
Speaker 1: sniff did it. It's like a big ass dinosaur sniff you.
Speaker 1: I'm like, damn, man, man the man, the dog cool,
Speaker 1: the dog ain't cool. The dog on me, man a
Speaker 1: real chill. I'm like, man, I can't even share the
Speaker 1: dog looking at me. Dog, the dog don't hurt me.
Speaker 1: The dog ain't gonna do nothing. I look up the
Speaker 1: dog standing up, just staring at you. Stare at you
Speaker 1: to like I said, he did what he needed to do.
Speaker 1: Stand him up. Let me go in the drawer already
Speaker 1: in the white house. Here the dog needs to be
Speaker 1: here looking at I can't even watch TV. Doll filled
Speaker 1: the dog why the dog brow? You know the door
Speaker 1: right here, just standing here like I gotta treat or something.
Speaker 1: And then the nigga tuns. That's Lord, get the king
Speaker 1: course o Lord. This for like a whole wolf in here.
Speaker 1: Three ways.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so no one no one in the ones at
Speaker 2: U c l A man.
Speaker 1: I don't know how. That's the first thing I thought. Man,
Speaker 1: he ever being beatings J Crow. J Crow probably got
Speaker 1: me a few times though, So you struggled with gard
Speaker 1: like I never lost the ones in September in the summer,
Speaker 1: like because September was right before training camp, and then
Speaker 1: you was already already in like ready to go shape.
Speaker 1: Time you have to catch me like in like July,
Speaker 1: in June, June July. Like if I'm in Vegas in September,
Speaker 1: you ain't getting me when we go to them runs,
Speaker 1: when we go to Buddhazars, Now you ain't getting me.
Speaker 1: Then I'm full steamer head ready for training camp, coming
Speaker 1: in the full steamer here, ready for training camp. Then
Speaker 1: I'm running to the top of the dunes. Now stop
Speaker 1: by then three times my legs is already coming in
Speaker 1: Joe bullets, all looking like you got ready for the season.
Speaker 1: I'm ready for the season by time. I'm going to
Speaker 1: everybody to go this ship. You better stop that for real.
Speaker 1: He I was killing Dante one day. Give that nigga
Speaker 1: the bad boom boom for real. Don't they stopped. Don't
Speaker 1: put your head up for real? For real? I did
Speaker 1: cook y'all. I like dad, I listen, damn listen one.
Speaker 1: And then Warrens was how Pete actually got ready my ass,
Speaker 1: I'm working on slides. I want to work on ladder
Speaker 1: room because I'm in picking roll. I'm in here breathing,
Speaker 1: I got to talk, and I'm training a whole other way.
Speaker 1: Wars was like the last thing because Wares used to
Speaker 1: fish me off. Ones is gonna because you're gonna. It's
Speaker 1: not a drill, No, you know, you actually hooping. And
Speaker 1: next thing you know, you're in a lather like you
Speaker 1: going game speeding Ones because you're like, all right, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, let me get at you real quick.
Speaker 1: Then I'm all, I'm gonna full sweat right before practice.
Speaker 1: I should love Ones, but Wares wasn't my thing. And
Speaker 1: then I used to like how people used to talk
Speaker 1: ship like I ain't have ones. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like I would let you get he cooks the whole
Speaker 1: US A team that was epic. I mean in practice
Speaker 1: people legendary practice practice too. Shit. We you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, this ship don't stop. This ain't in the summer.
Speaker 1: The summer was when I could, you know, work on
Speaker 1: my bag, you know, like sit in the season. I
Speaker 1: got a post up phase. I ain't get to showing
Speaker 1: no bag till I had that. You know.
Speaker 2: In terms of one videos though ticket you got one
Speaker 2: of the one of the better ones.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they caught that. Yeah that was legendary. That's what
Speaker 1: I'm glad I got that because they can't take that.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I want to ask you guys about Kevin Durant.
Speaker 2: So obviously he's been dangled in trade talks that the
Speaker 2: teams out there, the Timberwolves, the Rockets to see.
Speaker 1: They don't want him. Damn Knicks did too. Yeah, Knicks
Speaker 1: said they don't want him.
Speaker 2: It could be the asking price. But the question I
Speaker 2: have for you guys is like, what's the best win
Speaker 2: now fit for Kevin Durant at thirty seven years old?
Speaker 2: If he's looking to go to a new team.
Speaker 1: I don't understand why the Knicks don't see it the
Speaker 1: way we see it, because if you put obviously, if
Speaker 1: you put if you put him in that little core
Speaker 1: right there, he makes that all. He's a real bonafide superstar.
Speaker 1: He's remember when Pete talked about certain buildings and being
Speaker 1: comfortable certain buildings like that, for him, that's that. That
Speaker 1: would be lighting the fire every night. A bonafide superstar.
Speaker 1: That's that. If you can't get Lebron, I think KD
Speaker 1: is the best, Like you know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 1: for New York and for that bro, you get to
Speaker 1: see KD forty one games at night. Man, let me
Speaker 1: think Damn's just for coffee. Man. That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying like I'm a gym. You probably better
Speaker 1: at this ship than I am. But I'm just talking
Speaker 1: about you talking about win now.
Speaker 2: I mean, if you're KD, You're you're looking to get
Speaker 2: obviously an extension, and then you're looking for a winning position. Milwaukee, Milwaukee, Okay,
Speaker 2: But you also got a factor in you think geography
Speaker 2: is a factor in this in your career? Yeah, so
Speaker 2: would Milwaukee be off the table for for someone like
Speaker 2: Kevin Duranda.
Speaker 1: No, okay, it shouldn't be. Not with Johanni is still
Speaker 1: being there now, Janni. If I'm KD, I'm trying to
Speaker 1: get out of the West while the window is open
Speaker 1: to come out of the East.
Speaker 2: Really, so Miami is another team that's been floated around.
Speaker 2: I mean, what do you think about about that?
Speaker 1: Trading needs to play on the team with a player
Speaker 1: that's better than him, okay for them to win a championship,
Speaker 1: for him to win another title, and there's only like
Speaker 1: two or three teams Milwaukee with Jannis. Okay, see with
Speaker 1: Shaye you know ship if okay, see win it. You
Speaker 1: still got assets, like you can throw some draft picks
Speaker 1: out there. I'm trying to think when you mess with
Speaker 1: that dynamic though probably not, but they got the assets.
Speaker 1: One of the few teams I still got a lot
Speaker 1: of assets. Like Houston. Houston can't win because a superstar.
Speaker 1: They don't have a superstar. Yeah, I think he's back
Speaker 1: in Phoenix if he goes to like a Houston situation.
Speaker 2: But say Houston, say you replaced Jalen Green and Kevin
Speaker 2: Durant goes into that spot, like you have a go
Speaker 2: to guy down the stretch, like does that the second
Speaker 2: in the West last.
Speaker 1: Year Paul is saying is that he needs to go
Speaker 1: to where like Luca Bron where you got a young
Speaker 1: superstar who can propel you, Like even if he went
Speaker 1: to I mean he just played with Booker and Bill. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so he need to get somebody that's better than him
Speaker 1: right now. And it's only like a couple of guys
Speaker 1: in the league that you could say that, like Shay
Speaker 1: or uh Denver. Oh, they can find a way to
Speaker 1: get it. You pair him up with with that boy
Speaker 1: over there. I mean, that's the only three teams I
Speaker 1: see where you're talking about. Okay, they're a legit threat
Speaker 1: to win it all.
Speaker 2: What about a knixt situation where you replace a Bridges
Speaker 2: or an og and you pair them with with Brunson
Speaker 2: and and hope hopefully keep Towns too.
Speaker 1: And then you eliminate your depth. It don't matter. You
Speaker 1: still got to get depth anytives are there. But then
Speaker 1: you're gonna put into somebody that's gonna play him forty minutes. Nope,
Speaker 1: A the key he gotta play between thirty thirty two
Speaker 1: thirty three minute here but that diminishes, they dep depth,
Speaker 1: that diminishes they depth. If you give her the og
Speaker 1: and Michal Bridges, you gotta find a way. Like I
Speaker 1: don't like him on New York, Why I want on depth.
Speaker 1: I'm going heavy top. I'm going heavy at the top.
Speaker 1: Right now we see Lakers, Luca and bron heavy at
Speaker 1: the top.
Speaker 2: That ain't worked out five million next year. So wherever
Speaker 2: he goes, it's gonna be it's.
Speaker 1: Gonna eat your dep up. The only one who can
Speaker 1: afford him is Okay. See we're trying to win now,
Speaker 1: we not trying them out five years from them. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: It's ship man, you grab them moll fucking now a
Speaker 3: situation and motherfucking uh Bridges man, they was they followed
Speaker 3: the Indiana You like KTI and Indiana.
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to figure like you throwing math Mathuran.
Speaker 1: You throw in Miles Turner because he's gonna be up
Speaker 1: for some money this summer. You get two because male
Speaker 1: Turner only twenty nine, Mattherin is only here young in Indiana,
Speaker 1: Miles Turner Madura and then uh back in Arizona. Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's see if I can find one more other piece
Speaker 1: for him. I want home alone. Here, you got him?
Speaker 1: Damn you just giving home alone a big part of
Speaker 1: what they do in Indiana. Bargain and he and listen,
Speaker 1: he up, he's Finnah. Get the bag that he.
Speaker 2: Signed a new deal this with this last year.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm trying to. I mean, they don't have
Speaker 1: nobody that can get a bucket on Indiana. What about Philly.
Speaker 1: He can't go to Philly. Him and the b and
Speaker 1: Tyrese Maxie, that's Philly and already tried too many of
Speaker 1: the process. He is not No, he's not Paul George,
Speaker 1: my nigga, don't do that. The processes over there. We
Speaker 1: already told you we need fresh air out there. You
Speaker 1: know that he's gone. He gone, He needs fresh she
Speaker 1: ain't good, but he needs sint the door open. He's
Speaker 1: standing in front of him. Man, he walked out yet, Man,
Speaker 1: the process needs that ship is over with that ship
Speaker 1: that Frankenstein. Take him off the thing and let him
Speaker 1: walk it out of here. Damn, Philly needs to trade
Speaker 1: the process. It's over, it's over. He needs fresh air
Speaker 1: over records. Yeah, I think you're training for big felling
Speaker 1: in if you're talking about who you want, who you
Speaker 1: want for the big Fellow? Where are you moving by
Speaker 1: fellow to the West, because they ain't gonna move me.
Speaker 1: I'm a sant Goon going to Houston with them young boys,
Speaker 1: go bad the Houston Sangoon. You can go over there,
Speaker 1: Shantgoon to who else? Cam Junior, Cam Moore over there,
Speaker 1: they're probably gonna want Eastern Go ahead over there, Sangoon
Speaker 1: and Jabari, y'all can go ahead, and we're gonna keep Green.
Speaker 1: We're gonna keep the other Vess and bring in big
Speaker 1: Fella Gueenie and Philly.
Speaker 2: No, I ain't doing team in the West last year
Speaker 2: for a guy that.
Speaker 1: That's fools gone, bro, what's fools goal? Houston Number two
Speaker 1: in the in the West last year was fool's goal.
Speaker 1: You was two games from being then a slot.
Speaker 2: Is in beat healthy fools goal and.
Speaker 1: You trained got a swing up for that. Who's the
Speaker 1: superstar over there, Houston that can carry you, Nobody.
Speaker 2: That's why we're talking, Kevin Durant, Thank you.
Speaker 1: Nobody. Nobody their fringe all Stars. They have fringe all
Speaker 1: Stars over there today. Fringe all Star built. They built
Speaker 1: for the future. I hear you you're saying, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: get a bona fide MVP caliber player and build around
Speaker 1: on one kickstand. I gotta take, I gotta swing, I
Speaker 1: gotta you gotta what I gotta swing for the fences.
Speaker 1: I get it. But what if he gonna want to
Speaker 1: kickstand and it's another process in Houston, and then we're
Speaker 1: gonna that's gonna be. That's that's a trade me until
Speaker 1: as they built, unless Jabari become a superstar. Because I'm
Speaker 1: like Sam Good, he's a great player, Green, but he
Speaker 1: he Green, Jalena, I mean what we're gonna, We're gonna
Speaker 1: we think he could become that. I'm just saying, we
Speaker 1: got this is all built for the future. So I'm
Speaker 1: just listening to what you You feel like Green can
Speaker 1: become that superstar, then don't do nothing with it. But
Speaker 1: he a few years away from being what we think
Speaker 1: he can be. He been in the league with four
Speaker 1: five years already. Yeah, so about like he supposed to
Speaker 1: show me something. Now think about this, Jay dub is
Speaker 1: in his third year, you're supposed to make that leap.
Speaker 1: Now by now year tickets you know that by your
Speaker 1: third year, you know, who's somebody gonna be. It's like
Speaker 1: some guys been late bloomers and all that, but by
Speaker 1: the third year, we knew who Code was. You know
Speaker 1: who j Dubb is right now? Like everybody like take
Speaker 1: it by your third year, where's you at an All
Speaker 1: Star game? Yeah? You know what I'm saying, you got
Speaker 1: to you got a character. I feel what you're saying.
Speaker 1: You know they don't have that over there. I'm still
Speaker 1: establishing that. Yeah, like who, Like, I don't have nobody
Speaker 1: who I feel like is gonna take that leap so
Speaker 1: I can if I could trade for that right now,
Speaker 1: I got to swing for the fence. That'll be a
Speaker 1: good move. Get in bad to Houston.
Speaker 2: So if you were Houston, you would rather do a
Speaker 2: trade for Embiid than Kevin Durant, is what you're saying.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because Kevin Durant is older like embiiders what thirty,
Speaker 1: but his body's older. Yeah, the same age. They're the
Speaker 1: same age that Nigga's body is ninety that we probably
Speaker 1: got a better body than that.
Speaker 2: If he is thirty one and Katie would be thirty seven.
Speaker 1: Week, I think we can win in the next year.
Speaker 1: KD as the man, what do you think you can
Speaker 1: win a championship in Houston with KT is the man
Speaker 1: at thirty seven. If I'm healthy, yeah, healthy KD. Yeah
Speaker 1: before a healthy MB Yeah, I just had Booker and Bill.
Speaker 1: We didn't even make the playoffs, Like what are you?
Speaker 1: What are we trying to do over here? Talking about
Speaker 1: all those things I loved? But KD needs to be
Speaker 1: with somebody who's better than him right now. Listen. They
Speaker 1: are the closest structure to OKC to me, they have
Speaker 1: a bunch of young They don't have an MVT though.
Speaker 1: No I didn't say that, but I'm saying they have
Speaker 1: young pieces that can one day evolve into a their VP.
Speaker 1: When I watched Jalen Green this year, he made a
Speaker 1: huge jump this ship.
Speaker 2: We didn't mention Thompson at all, by the way.
Speaker 1: At all. Yeah, and he wasn't even on the board
Speaker 1: him and his brother wasn't even on the board of
Speaker 1: the narrative. He's not in the trade talks.
Speaker 2: But what I'm saying is he's one of their crowns.
Speaker 1: He's one of sending pieces that they have over there
Speaker 1: can be a superstar. Not today, he's three three years away.
Speaker 1: Fuck no, hell no, the boy, that boy, this boy
Speaker 1: and the boys in thirty games made noise. They made noise. Bro,
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, I'm saying, but he's a very good
Speaker 1: player right now. He got potential to be an All Star.
Speaker 1: But he's not gonna be completely who he can be
Speaker 1: development wise for another couple of years.
Speaker 2: So he'll go into his third season next year. Thompson
Speaker 2: nine point.
Speaker 1: Where is like right now? What year Shy? Three? Four
Speaker 1: years to get right here?
Speaker 2: Seven year?
Speaker 1: Amen is a few years from being If he could
Speaker 1: be that level, it's gonna take you about three or
Speaker 1: four more years. The development is different now though the
Speaker 1: motherfucker just did this in half a year, forty five
Speaker 1: sixty games. Him and his brother made a big difference
Speaker 1: on their teams. Then they make the jump. What kind
Speaker 1: of jump you think they and then they coming back
Speaker 1: even more confident. Yeah, they they think about this ticket.
Speaker 1: Give me the They role players. They role players today.
Speaker 1: I didn't start. You didn't come in a role player, Bro,
Speaker 1: I did.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 1: He wasn't no role He was a focal point right
Speaker 1: out the gate. I came in a focal point you
Speaker 1: right out the gate. I was not. I was like,
Speaker 1: is he gonna like Shae with Okay? See as the
Speaker 1: focal point. He was developing out the gate, but he
Speaker 1: was a focal point on.
Speaker 2: The Clippers where he was drafted.
Speaker 1: He was development. He was developing that one year for
Speaker 1: one year, his second year he was the guy in Okay.
Speaker 1: See he was the guy, but was still developing. That's
Speaker 1: what trying to say. That's it. They was trash when
Speaker 1: he first got. So yeah, amen, there was trash when
Speaker 1: he first got. There wasn't trash he was. They were
Speaker 1: trash when they when he got they made the playoffs.
Speaker 1: They did not the first year they got, they asked stunted.
Speaker 1: The first year, first year he went to Okay see
Speaker 1: him and Lou dort Man, they got their ass ran
Speaker 1: to by them, Nick Collinson, come on, man. And then
Speaker 1: the next year they made the playoffs. Then they started making.
Speaker 2: The first year with Okay City, he did make that.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: It was the bubble and they lost and then.
Speaker 1: They made the playoffs again because Chris Paul was there,
Speaker 1: they made the playoff. There was forty one one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they made the playoffs. I was like, damn, hold on,
Speaker 1: I remember them in the playoffs. Come ye again? Yeah, Well,
Speaker 1: Chris Paul went over there. I thought they was gonna
Speaker 1: be garbage. They was forty one and forty one made
Speaker 1: the playoffs. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Yeah, surprisingly, for sure.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to tell you they was good. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: not trying to tell you. So I think they gonna
Speaker 1: have to take It's gonna take them a few more
Speaker 1: years to some of these cats.
Speaker 2: Ticket, I want to go back. We're approaching the thirtieth
Speaker 2: anniversary you getting drafted into the NBA. It's it's you know,
Speaker 2: nine ten days away.
Speaker 1: It was thirty yeah, twenty eight, twenty.
Speaker 2: Six, ye, yes, sir. I want to ask you just
Speaker 2: the process of you deciding, hey, I'm going to go
Speaker 2: into the draft, making the announcement, and then that day
Speaker 2: that your your name gets called and you're going to
Speaker 2: the Minnesota Timberwolves.
Speaker 1: Oh man, some of the most hectic times in my
Speaker 1: life trying to figure out my next move and and
Speaker 1: just trying to attach myself to what was the most promising.
Speaker 1: It was so many unknowns. Just coming from McDonald's and
Speaker 1: I got to see all the guys and you know,
Speaker 1: your friends and shit. So yeah, now I was just
Speaker 1: in a big ass question. Mark had a bunch of
Speaker 1: what ifs I was able to. Yeah, I was just
Speaker 1: trying to figure a bunch of shit out. But once
Speaker 1: I figured out, like you know what, after I played
Speaker 1: Scottie and after I had the interaction with the Isaiah
Speaker 1: and everything in the gym, I left there feeling so
Speaker 1: different about the decision making. And then as I started
Speaker 1: doing more research with limited resources, I was just like
Speaker 1: I started to form this ideal in my head, like,
Speaker 1: you know, wherever you go and whatever you do, you're
Speaker 1: gonna have to put in a hunt it to a
Speaker 1: thousand times to work, just because you know it's collegiate,
Speaker 1: you're behind it. You know it's pros, you're behind it.
Speaker 1: So I was more thinking of how do I develop fast?
Speaker 1: How do I speed? You know? It was more like that.
Speaker 1: And then it was like whatever decision I make, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna have to live it out. So I was just like,
Speaker 1: you know, I got an opportunity, actually, you know, I
Speaker 1: got an opportunity right now to fulfill my dream and
Speaker 1: do all this that we're talking about in this room.
Speaker 1: And I was like, man, to go for this shit.
Speaker 1: At the end of the day, Man, shit, this shit
Speaker 1: don't work. It's always collegiate right here. So that's how
Speaker 1: I looked at it. But then I started getting through
Speaker 1: the process and I started understanding the process. It was
Speaker 1: all basketball. It was all things that I had done.
Speaker 1: It was nothing new, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: all the things that they were asking of me and
Speaker 1: all the things, it was all things that I already
Speaker 1: had familiar with and all that. And then when I
Speaker 1: made the decision, got through the process, get drafted, I came.
Speaker 1: I don't remember anything else because I'm in it. I
Speaker 1: didn't care about what I did up until that point.
Speaker 1: I didn't care about what was said about me. I
Speaker 1: locked in to that point all the way up to
Speaker 1: when I retired. The moment I jumped in the league,
Speaker 1: I never turned off. It was no one around me.
Speaker 1: It was no one that was a part of my life.
Speaker 1: It was nothing that I had ever dealt with or
Speaker 1: whatever was going to fuck this opportunity up for me.
Speaker 1: No one, nothing else. So that's how I went at
Speaker 1: that opportunity. So you know, if it was the girl
Speaker 1: that I started dating and we ended up getting married,
Speaker 1: this is how I need you to be in the circle.
Speaker 1: If you're going to be one of my friends, and
Speaker 1: with just how I need you to be. And I
Speaker 1: never came out of this right here, nothing ever, nothing
Speaker 1: this circle right here, nothing other than when I started
Speaker 1: having kids and I was much older at thirty something,
Speaker 1: nothing was a bigger priority than this. So the morning
Speaker 1: I came into the league, I never turned off until
Speaker 1: I retired.
Speaker 2: And ticket when you were making the decision of going
Speaker 2: into the draft, like, was there people you were reaching
Speaker 2: out to and trying to get advice from, or was
Speaker 2: a decision you just made with you know, your high
Speaker 2: school coach and family members.
Speaker 1: I was trying to I was trying to reach out
Speaker 1: to anybody and everybody. Paula tell you this, Paul has
Speaker 1: a I mean he's from LA had a little more
Speaker 1: resources probably than I did at the time. But yeah,
Speaker 1: it wasn't anybody to talk to. I had bumped into
Speaker 1: Isaiah Thomas on the fly. That was great for me.
Speaker 1: I had a conversation with obviously Scotti. But everybody, you
Speaker 1: gotta remember, I'm like the face for us. So it's
Speaker 1: Paul Pierce, Antoine Walker, Allen Iverson, Koby, I'm I'm the
Speaker 1: face for all this new school ship. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So That's how my Piers was looking at me.
Speaker 1: But the old head looking at this Wyn coming there. Wow,
Speaker 1: you don't want to hear this shit, man, you And
Speaker 1: there was a bullying system, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: tell you us and y'all came in, and actually the
Speaker 1: system started to transcend when I came in. They started
Speaker 1: to give a little bit because some of the things
Speaker 1: I couldn't do the NBA would not necessarily being roused.
Speaker 1: But they started to transition into a more newer generation
Speaker 1: of things. I remember David Stern telling Slam to take
Speaker 1: AI's tats off because that wasn't you know, it wasn't
Speaker 1: primitive to the league. And Jordan didn't wear tattoos when
Speaker 1: he had the big ass brand on his chests, and
Speaker 1: Barkley didn't have you know what I'm saying. So we
Speaker 1: was always in comparisons to who was gonna carry this
Speaker 1: thing into this into the next. So I was yeah,
Speaker 1: and I was R and D you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I was let's see how this do you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying? Then second year I'm an All Star. I
Speaker 1: don't think those things was in the components of me
Speaker 1: developing that fast then next thing you know, I'm starting
Speaker 1: third year, I'm starting an All Star game. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like, I'm here, like it took two
Speaker 1: years to get here, right, So now everybody's seeing me playing.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying when I running to him,
Speaker 1: when I running to anybody, everybody like, hey, man, hey,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But man, he'll tell you
Speaker 1: this because he went through the same kind of process. Man,
Speaker 1: it's a bunch of unknowns, and you gotta bet on yourself.
Speaker 1: And when people don't even see you as the same
Speaker 1: as you see yourself, you gotta make them see it.
Speaker 1: That's what I was on. I was always on proving
Speaker 1: somebody wrong and proving myself wrong. I was always in
Speaker 1: that cloud of shit. So that's why when you saw
Speaker 1: me on the court, I look, man, I look, because
Speaker 1: I was like he was talking about so motherfucker, and
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be out the league in two years. Nigga.
Speaker 1: You don't even know me. Check up, nigga every time.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So that competitive nature man
Speaker 1: carried me through.
Speaker 2: But let's go to the day of the draft ticket
Speaker 2: you go to Canada. Was that your first time ever
Speaker 2: in Canada.
Speaker 1: But yeah, it was in Toronto. I thought I was
Speaker 1: in Europe. I'm like, damn, we in Canada with stuff London.
Speaker 1: I was ohod as fucked.
Speaker 2: So first time in Canada and then going into the draft.
Speaker 2: When you're there, you know you're suited up, you're excited.
Speaker 2: Are you knowing, Hey, I'm going to I'm going to
Speaker 2: Minnesota or what were what were your thoughts kind.
Speaker 1: Of leading in Toronto, We're trying to find a place
Speaker 1: to eat. You know, I ain't taking no bread and
Speaker 1: ship like that, you know what I'm saying, And like
Speaker 1: it wasn't no agent paying me off. I I wan't
Speaker 1: doing none of that ship Like I wanted to make
Speaker 1: my own brown want to have to owe nobody ship.
Speaker 1: So I ain't really had no super bread to do
Speaker 1: a bunch of shit. So you know, I was on
Speaker 1: something like you know, Tom and Jerry walking around here,
Speaker 1: see what it is and ship. So I was doing
Speaker 1: a bunch of like sight seeing because that was the
Speaker 1: first time we was out the country or being to Canada.
Speaker 4: And who were you with when you were out the
Speaker 4: mom I had a girlfriend at the time, my best
Speaker 4: friend Bug and two of my Homeboys, No and Uh Bill,
Speaker 4: they came up there with me and Kareem.
Speaker 1: I had like a little group of us up there
Speaker 1: with my agent at the time, and it was it
Speaker 1: was cool, man. It was all for us to be
Speaker 1: able to go through this experience, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: because I don't think a lot of them have been
Speaker 1: out of Chicago or been out of the country either.
Speaker 1: So it was just this big, this big thing of
Speaker 1: just of a question mark of what's gonna happen. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I was seeing all the other guys g Trin and
Speaker 1: stack House and Sheet and everybody having on a real
Speaker 1: nice suit and shit, I got the little rock chest,
Speaker 1: a little you know what I'm saying, big and tall
Speaker 1: suit on and you know what I'm saying, I'm just
Speaker 1: I'm just, you know, saying, I'm doing my ffa. Man,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to slide through not fucking nobody, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And then Uh, the niggas crack jokes
Speaker 1: on me and Ship and I was like, you know what,
Speaker 1: me betting all y'all niggas. Watch niggas looked at me
Speaker 1: and everybody start laughing, And I was the only nigga
Speaker 1: there not laughing, and then we get we get our
Speaker 1: draft on and that's when Wolf came down to the
Speaker 1: room like, Nigga, Hey, hey, nigga, I got your test. Man,
Speaker 1: Hey man, you passed, man, Hey man, man, fuck that test.
Speaker 1: Nigga going to you downstairs, going to the lead and
Speaker 1: throw that sh in the trash. Uh, get it right
Speaker 1: to the money salute And with the fifth picton in
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety five, Yet tapped me on the showtime. Then
Speaker 1: I saw the cameras come around. That's the only time
Speaker 1: I swear to god, I got nervous. What you said
Speaker 1: in the interview, I don't even remember. I'm about smiling.
Speaker 1: Was talking to me. It was Craig. I'm trying to think,
Speaker 1: who was it, Crag Crag, Yeah, looking around, stealing a
Speaker 1: little interview. Got out stage soon as I came downstate
Speaker 1: and gave me a hat, and Upper Deck was at
Speaker 1: the bottom. They had a check. Looked like some what's that?
Speaker 1: What's that little ship? The clearing house? Shit? You get
Speaker 1: what's the name of Yeah? Yeah, yeah, hey, hey boy,
Speaker 1: upper Deck had a two million dollar check. By the
Speaker 1: size of this this, I saw that. I faded Pete,
Speaker 1: I saw right and I thought I was. I thought
Speaker 1: I was, you know, I thought from the crying and
Speaker 1: bubbling up I had then I can read. And then
Speaker 1: I was like, hold on, I ain't never seen the
Speaker 1: world million. That's that's that's a million, right, made it
Speaker 1: you feel me? I came off the stage down the stairs.
Speaker 1: Deth was standing right there. Richard. I'm going blank on
Speaker 1: this name. Richard right there he was the CEO that
Speaker 1: ship got me up, said whether to the Lee, young fella,
Speaker 1: I want to I want to be the first to
Speaker 1: get your first endorsement with upper deck woo woo ah.
Speaker 1: Rest is history. That's when I had cash under my bed,
Speaker 1: like it was. You know what I'm saying. I was
Speaker 1: in the hood. I was still putting my shit in
Speaker 1: trash bas throwing it in the hour. You there shout
Speaker 1: to the west side man.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so thirty years. What do you remember about after
Speaker 2: getting drafted? What did you do that night? How did
Speaker 2: you celebrate? And then also did you think you could
Speaker 2: be one, two, three or four before they called you?
Speaker 2: At five?
Speaker 1: After the draft was a ship storm. I had to
Speaker 1: fly to New York and do Regis and Kelly. I
Speaker 1: wore this USA jacket on some I don't know, I
Speaker 1: don't even know why. That's what I was feeling. I
Speaker 1: was in New York, you know what I mean. I
Speaker 1: had to go do a bunch of media stuff. Then
Speaker 1: they threw me on the plane. I land in Minnesota.
Speaker 1: I do the press conference there, and then the first
Speaker 1: thing Kevin McAll wanted me to do right after that
Speaker 1: was now only meet the owners, but meet the community leaders.
Speaker 1: So after I met all the owners of the timberwarves,
Speaker 1: I go into this room and it was it was
Speaker 1: just like a bunch of black leaders, you know, education
Speaker 1: programs in the street, community leaders, and Kevin Mchall thought
Speaker 1: that would be a great job or a great idea
Speaker 1: for me to interact with, you know, community leaders to
Speaker 1: understand the city, you know, north sides, just south side,
Speaker 1: is this st East, Saint Paul's this, this is this,
Speaker 1: And that helped me acclimate quicker than most guys or
Speaker 1: when I heard she talk about acclimating the Portland or guys,
Speaker 1: that was you know, so I felt I felt special.
Speaker 1: But man, it was a whirlwind because trying to find
Speaker 1: a place to live, and you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: like that's that's that's all that that had my head spinning.
Speaker 1: So I had to actually put some structure into my
Speaker 1: own life to where yeah, it could accommodate and help
Speaker 1: me with some of my things. But yeah, man, once
Speaker 1: once I hit the draft, bro, it was gone. I
Speaker 1: was gone. It was of. It was off, off and winning.
Speaker 2: So here's the Craig Sager interview right after, Let's.
Speaker 1: Check in out with Craig Sager, who was with the
Speaker 1: Sports Illustrated cover guy.
Speaker 2: Well, I was the cover ready or not?
Speaker 1: That was the big question, and that was a hard cover.
Speaker 2: Yeah, for the big transition, the step from high school
Speaker 2: to the NBA.
Speaker 1: One reason I think already because I worked so hard.
Speaker 5: I think everybody who was in this draft, I think
Speaker 5: not having a set.
Speaker 1: I'm pretty exception. I worked pretty hard.
Speaker 5: To everything that I do, and I know the NBA
Speaker 5: is just another level of hard work.
Speaker 1: And I'm se em set for that stuff.
Speaker 2: What qualities of your game can timberwol fans expect to
Speaker 2: see immediately on the court.
Speaker 5: Number one is just going to see a person in
Speaker 5: a player that comes out and plays hard every night,
Speaker 5: one thousand percent. I'm going to see some, uh teamwork.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna see some I'm a team player.
Speaker 1: I don't fresh out of high school down fresh fresh
Speaker 1: and row boy. It is on cook right here. What
Speaker 1: it's oncooked dope right here? You and none.
Speaker 2: This ain't stepped on occupy your time after twenty a half
Speaker 2: hour practice.
Speaker 5: Well, I I plan on getting my degree as far
Speaker 5: as college and everything, because.
Speaker 1: Everybody especially that's I gotta degree. I plan on getting that.
Speaker 5: Even though I am in the NBA, I can say
Speaker 5: that now. I'm plan on using my off time for
Speaker 5: as far as reaching my degree.
Speaker 1: And that's what going on. That's my mom and b
Speaker 1: right goal I like to reach.
Speaker 2: At this time, it's time to start studying. Now here's
Speaker 2: the Minnesota Ross. You go back and study while we
Speaker 2: send it back to the step.
Speaker 1: Ah, look shot the Craig. That's crazy.
Speaker 2: So take it. Thirty years man, congrats, what's up?
Speaker 1: What's up back man?
Speaker 2: And you know, as the months progress, there's gonna be
Speaker 2: a lot more stuff of your first season that we'll
Speaker 2: probably talk about on this show. So congrats again on
Speaker 2: thirty years. But let's get some game pitchs.
Speaker 1: Right, Let's get some game picked right, Let's get it
Speaker 1: game six, Game six, Pete, what's not changed? It's going
Speaker 1: seven it's going seventh.
Speaker 2: Pete has been the game seven since the twenty sixteen
Speaker 2: finals Calves Warriors.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's going seven. This is great for the league. Seven.
Speaker 1: You want an extra bet on the seven? Yeah, for sure,
Speaker 1: we're gonna watch it tomorrow. What's up?
Speaker 2: So, okay's four and a half.
Speaker 1: What's the bet? Man? What's the bet? Uh? Ship? They
Speaker 1: can't put right? All right? Say left right? But he
Speaker 1: said right there, that's the bet. That's the beat. Send
Speaker 1: me one of them, right, gotcha? You said say less right?
Speaker 1: You know what it is, man, Look man, look, it's
Speaker 1: been nice. Man, it's been nice. Man. Let's speak Jo T.
Speaker 1: We can eat some barbecue wash and push it to seven. Listen,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, relaxed, listen, as we can
Speaker 1: do this end of the year show. We want to
Speaker 1: thank all our followers, all the fans who watched, all
Speaker 1: the people in the comments, all that ship we fuck with,
Speaker 1: taking the truth and KG certified here. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. We work really fucking hard to give y'all
Speaker 1: some of the best ship ever. Real ship. This ain't.
Speaker 1: This ain't something that we take lightly. We thank all
Speaker 1: the fans, but yeah, this is it. This is Game six,
Speaker 1: we're closing out. The will be a game seven. This
Speaker 1: is our last show if we want to come back
Speaker 1: and do something else, but yeah, this is the I
Speaker 1: look forward to seeing y'all for Game seven, so we
Speaker 1: need to take for that. So so you know, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna see y'all. Let the paradeing, okay see, or actually
Speaker 1: I will be watching y'all let the okay see PARADEO.
Speaker 1: This turned out to be one of the best series
Speaker 1: we fan some time out. You know, I think they're
Speaker 1: gonna do the parade should be like Sunday or something.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Game seven on Sunday, Well,
Speaker 1: we're gonna do a recap or Monday or Monday. I
Speaker 1: see y'all on First Avenue and okay see in front
Speaker 1: of the hotel with all the fans on me, and yeah, man,
Speaker 1: it's been a great year. Man. Hey, hey, shakes on
Speaker 1: me for winning games. I appreciate you for y'all games. Man,
Speaker 1: it's been a great year. Thank you, Nate, Thank you Ze. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, I see y'all. I'm probably
Speaker 1: be in Hawaii Tuesday, so yeah, yeah, you know, it's
Speaker 1: been a great year. Another one Game seven Sunday. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the parades Monday. So I don't know how they're gonna
Speaker 1: do a game on a Sunday.
Speaker 2: But yeah, Wednesday, Oh damn.
Speaker 1: See everybody this summer and make sure you wear some
Speaker 1: your son Tan lotion is hot outside hot. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: see it. Tennis. So we'll come back here and do
Speaker 1: the recap on Monday. Yeah, we can do so on
Speaker 1: Saturday to see what you're doing Monday, and a Wednesday
Speaker 1: for the draft okay, cool, and.
Speaker 2: Then doing the draft draft Wednesday.
Speaker 1: Okay, So we can do it Tuesday, Monday, talk about
Speaker 1: Game seven and the draft.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we could do Monday Thursday.
Speaker 1: Or we can show up at the parade and do
Speaker 1: it from the parade. I got something I gotta do
Speaker 1: to make that. I ain't going to Indiana for no parade. Okay.
Speaker 1: See the parade gonna be an okay, see damn. So
Speaker 1: it's over. It's over, it's old. That's the big s