Speaker 1: Wine Down with Janne Kramer and I Heart Radio podcast. Okay,
Speaker 1: two things. One thing I have to get off my
Speaker 1: chest right now is Julia's going to pre school tomorrow
Speaker 1: and I just we just started talking about it and
Speaker 1: I got a little teerio like are you gonna cry?
Speaker 1: And I'm like, I'm already like pre schwitzing in my eyes.
Speaker 1: I did like I'm gonna started thinking about it. I'm like,
Speaker 1: it's like, it's my girl, and it's I'm so excited
Speaker 1: for her, but I want her to have like her independence.
Speaker 1: But it's like she's getting so independent now that I'm like,
Speaker 1: it's beautiful, but it's also like it's breaking my heart
Speaker 1: a little bit. And realize is they have their old
Speaker 1: little life then I know, and I'm yeah, but I'm
Speaker 1: just so used to her screaming at the door when
Speaker 1: I leave, and you know, even like when I came
Speaker 1: here today for the podcast, I was like bye baby.
Speaker 1: She's like bye mama, and I was like, I love that.
Speaker 1: But also I'm like, oh, like she's good. Tomorrow will
Speaker 1: be hard. She's probably going to cry too. She's not
Speaker 1: going because we went to church. We tried this new
Speaker 1: church out here um on Sunday, and she she went
Speaker 1: right in like the kids center. I didn't even like.
Speaker 1: I was like, but by like, so she's fine. And
Speaker 1: we went to we went to orientation last week and
Speaker 1: when we second we got in her classroom, it's like
Speaker 1: I wasn't even there. She's gonna be fine. It's gonna
Speaker 1: be me. And that's the thing that the teacher said
Speaker 1: to Mr. Dora was like, the kids are fine, it's
Speaker 1: the parents. And I'm like, because I again like and
Speaker 1: I won't let her see me cry, but I will
Speaker 1: definitely leave and cry. But I'm filling my day tomorrow
Speaker 1: with like a lot of stuff to keep me like occupied. Good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Like I have a workout right afterwards, and then I'm
Speaker 1: hanging out and Sarah. By the way, I have to
Speaker 1: talk about Sarah because she's coming over to work out too,
Speaker 1: and she has oh my god, so okay, so John,
Speaker 1: you were sick, but she like, just to catch you
Speaker 1: up from last week. She's been in this relationship for
Speaker 1: six years and she basically it's a time. It's time now,
Speaker 1: you know. It's like it's been six years, like either
Speaker 1: crap or get off the pot, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So she wants either an engagement ring or moving on
Speaker 1: because she feels like she's being held back. And Amy
Speaker 1: was like, well, why do you need the ring? And
Speaker 1: she's like, this is just who I am. Like I
Speaker 1: she's like me where it's like I just I do
Speaker 1: want a piece of paper. Thought about it a lot too,
Speaker 1: because she wants what she wants and guess what, great,
Speaker 1: but she people need it. Yeah, and that's the thing, like,
Speaker 1: and she's because like they he wants kids, they want
Speaker 1: to have kids. But at the same time, it's like
Speaker 1: she wants it in the order. She's old school, she's
Speaker 1: from Texas. Like that's just how that that's what she wants.
Speaker 1: That's you know, and her she's very close to their
Speaker 1: dad and all like all that stuff. So she was like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I think because she's coming with me the I Heart
Speaker 1: Radio Festival in September, and she's like, I think I'm
Speaker 1: gonna do it, like either before that weekend or after
Speaker 1: that weekend and just be like, look if it's not
Speaker 1: this year, like I'm I want you to know I
Speaker 1: am dead serious, Like I'm dead serious. And then she's
Speaker 1: like and I won't. I was okay, but then you
Speaker 1: can bring it up again, because if you keep bringing
Speaker 1: it up, he might be like, fine, here's your Ethan ring,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, like one exactly so, and
Speaker 1: I was like, why don't you just listen to the
Speaker 1: podcast together and you know, talk about it afterwards. And
Speaker 1: she texted me she was in New York and she's like,
Speaker 1: I couldn't wait till the podcast came out. She's like yeah.
Speaker 1: She she goes, I sat him down, and she goes, tied,
Speaker 1: I want you to know I am dead serious about
Speaker 1: I will leave, and he goes, trust me, Sarah. She was,
Speaker 1: it is a ring this year? Yeah, she goes, if
Speaker 1: it's if it's not a ring this year, I'm gone
Speaker 1: and he goes, trust me, Sarah, I know, I got it, okay,
Speaker 1: And I was like, okay, now no more, no more,
Speaker 1: I go, no more, and now let's start planning it with.
Speaker 1: I don't think he has the ring, but I think
Speaker 1: he knows how serious she is and he's an idiot
Speaker 1: if he doesn't do it. Because now she said, what
Speaker 1: you know it's this year or no? He said, I
Speaker 1: hear you. I trust me, Sarah, I get it. I know. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And so I was like, okay, Sarah, and I was like,
Speaker 1: but you have to. I don't care if it's December
Speaker 1: thirty one, Do not say one word about it again,
Speaker 1: because you will ruin this for yourself. She'll totally ruin it.
Speaker 1: So I just okay, now she knows, and I was like,
Speaker 1: now let's play a wedding because she wants to like
Speaker 1: get married next year. So I was like, let's get
Speaker 1: on it. Come on. So she's like, I don't know where.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I want to be inside, so
Speaker 1: we'll see. And when you say that when she says
Speaker 1: this year, doesn't mean just she wants to be engaged
Speaker 1: by the end of this year. By the end of
Speaker 1: the end of this year. But it's August, I know.
Speaker 1: But you can get a ring turned around fast, you can.
Speaker 1: My only thing is so she I think she wants
Speaker 1: it done on her birthday, and my fear is that
Speaker 1: if it's not done on her birthday, she's going to
Speaker 1: get upset and then who knows, maybe maybe he's doing
Speaker 1: it on New Year's eat. So that so I was like,
Speaker 1: just give him, like you said, until January one. I
Speaker 1: just feel like, and then I love it so uncome.
Speaker 1: I like the expectation and then it's going to be
Speaker 1: like up and down and up and down. But but
Speaker 1: but this is what I told her. I was like,
Speaker 1: don't don't put that on you. You've said it, and
Speaker 1: now live for the next because you've already lived six
Speaker 1: years of when is it going to be? So now
Speaker 1: you have a couple of months. Enjoyed his next couple
Speaker 1: of months because hopefully it will be coming time. If
Speaker 1: you're listening to this, you should go get the ring now.
Speaker 1: Don't make her way. And she wants three diamonds. He's
Speaker 1: also listening, like, let's get really specific. She's got a
Speaker 1: Pinterest board if you want to see it, like she
Speaker 1: showed me and it's beautiful a little like it's anxious. Well,
Speaker 1: I feel anxious for her because she's going to be
Speaker 1: waiting and waiting and waiting, and she's already waited six years.
Speaker 1: But still but now she's voiced, and so what's another
Speaker 1: three months? Like she needs like a sedative, like I
Speaker 1: can't I have some for her? She needs just Friday,
Speaker 1: but he needs to wait though, it needs to hold
Speaker 1: off a second until I think, I hope he does
Speaker 1: it her under that you would love her. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: bring her in November immediately. No, it's a November. It
Speaker 1: needs to be in November on the show. Oh my god, No,
Speaker 1: she would not be happy about that. There's there's one
Speaker 1: thing about Sarah's she wants it to be like I
Speaker 1: think she would want it to be like you know,
Speaker 1: beautiful romantic and radio studio on air with Ryan. We
Speaker 1: can't we drink it. I can get some orchids and
Speaker 1: when it happens though, we'll have Taie and Sarah both
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Speaker 1: Hey girl, it's Janna Jen and Amy. Hi, Jana Jin
Speaker 1: and Amy? Are you are you doing? I'm great. I'm
Speaker 1: at work. I can't believe you're a lawyer. Wait wait
Speaker 1: what kind of law do you practice? Are you at
Speaker 1: like lawyer work or are you at like housewives work? No? No, no,
Speaker 1: I'm at lawyer work. Lawyer work office right now, like
Speaker 1: you know, writing that the emails to opposing counsel. So god,
Speaker 1: my god, wait, what could a law do you practice?
Speaker 1: I do copyright? So photographers mostly so are they do?
Speaker 1: They film you when you're in the like doing your
Speaker 1: lawyer work. They do? And it's funny because I try
Speaker 1: to warn them. I'm like, it's not exciting. Like mostly
Speaker 1: we like, you know, rapping emails and letters and stuff
Speaker 1: and you know, so what they did they filmed a
Speaker 1: few times. Yeah, but the mean emails sound fun. Yes,
Speaker 1: I know, right, I wish I could share those kind
Speaker 1: of question actually about copyright since you're a lawyer. So
Speaker 1: if I was to post a photo of like wire
Speaker 1: you know, wire image, someone that took a photo of
Speaker 1: me and then I put it on my Instagram, cannot
Speaker 1: photographer then come after me because I posted their photo? Um,
Speaker 1: they can if they own a copyright to it. But
Speaker 1: it's me though, I'm like, then they should, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? Like they right, like you own me?
Speaker 1: It's my face? Like this is because they took a picture.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I've always like wanted that because someone
Speaker 1: said to me, you need to take that down and
Speaker 1: I was like, you need to shut up. But like
Speaker 1: like but then I was like, wait, like am I
Speaker 1: in there doesn't want pictures? But well I know, but
Speaker 1: I was just like, but how do they get to
Speaker 1: own that when it's like that's face? Because I mean
Speaker 1: I want to use that photo of you, I have
Speaker 1: to pay for it. But I don't understand that. Well
Speaker 1: Emily help. I you know, now I'm all confused. I
Speaker 1: don't even know if I practiced copy right law anymore. No,
Speaker 1: I'm just kidding. Um, well it whoever owns the end
Speaker 1: of image. So if they take a picture of you
Speaker 1: and you sign a released giving them permission that you
Speaker 1: don't sign a release for wire image. I guess when
Speaker 1: you technically step on a red carpet, you're giving I
Speaker 1: guess if you're if you're in public and you're just
Speaker 1: allowing yourself to be photographed, you're giving permission for them
Speaker 1: to own the photograph. And then if they copyright that photograph,
Speaker 1: then they own that's their work. So it's their creat
Speaker 1: but it's my face. My my parents created the face
Speaker 1: it is. I can use that next time, then I
Speaker 1: own my face. Yeah, you know what, I hope this
Speaker 1: issue comes up for me because I'm going to use
Speaker 1: that in one of my arguments. Yeah, exactly, she owns
Speaker 1: her face. They didn't. They didn't make that like her
Speaker 1: parents made that. You're welcome for the lawyer the lawyer
Speaker 1: chat is it as soon as you step into public property,
Speaker 1: it's open game. Because she's a public figure. It's like
Speaker 1: a paparazzi shooting you right now, me, I'm not a figure.
Speaker 1: You're totally you know what I did yesterday? There was
Speaker 1: a girl walk in front of me and I couldn't
Speaker 1: believe what she had on because it was a family
Speaker 1: oriented picture. I took a picture and sent it to
Speaker 1: my sister because we do list all the time. Because
Speaker 1: so do you own it? Just Emily? Does she own
Speaker 1: that photo now? Of like her? Like paparazzaying another person? Okay,
Speaker 1: your word speaking of people being awful and mean? Like Jen,
Speaker 1: how do you like being on the Housewive? I know,
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I tell you. I mean I knew
Speaker 1: going in through it because you're new right to the show. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this was my first year, So I mean, I'm not
Speaker 1: I'm not done. Like I knew what I'm setting myself
Speaker 1: up for. But I tell you, even though you know
Speaker 1: and you're prepared for it, you don't know if you're
Speaker 1: not prepared for it, because people will come after you
Speaker 1: for things that you're like, I didn't even know you
Speaker 1: could have even picked up on something like that, right
Speaker 1: my my girlfriend, Um, she said, do you know Lydia
Speaker 1: She used to be on the Housewives of Orange County.
Speaker 1: I don't know her. I actually know her mom, Judy Duty,
Speaker 1: lives next door to my in law, so I sent Juty.
Speaker 1: Well she was just like I mean she it kind
Speaker 1: of seems like you were It's like you're so sweet,
Speaker 1: and she was like, I can't handle like just people
Speaker 1: like constantly like picking on you, Like how do you
Speaker 1: deal with that? Like I would lose my crap. I
Speaker 1: you know, it's hard, especially when it's like about my husband,
Speaker 1: because my husband was like, didn't even really sign up
Speaker 1: for this, like I did it and then I drug
Speaker 1: him along and then the poor guy he's like, you know,
Speaker 1: everybody's like her husband's gay, her husband's ugly. I feel
Speaker 1: so badly for him because he you know, kidding, but
Speaker 1: I mean that's it. But that sucks like someone like
Speaker 1: being some in and again like he didn't sign up
Speaker 1: for it, So is it something? Where is that causing
Speaker 1: tension in y'all's marriage? Because he didn't want you that
Speaker 1: so I worried about that. That was another thing. My
Speaker 1: husband wasn't all that keen on me being on the
Speaker 1: show because everybody gets divorced, right, I mean yeah exactly.
Speaker 1: So you know, no mug shots, no divorce, and so
Speaker 1: we actually wouldn't therapy prior to me going on the show,
Speaker 1: and during the show, just kind of like stay healthy,
Speaker 1: you know, stay on the same page, have a third
Speaker 1: party kind of mediating between the two of us, and
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's good. I mean, yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: there were definitely ups and downs during the filming process.
Speaker 1: I mean there were times when he was like, screw this,
Speaker 1: I'm never filming again, and then there were other times
Speaker 1: where he was fine. But yeah, it's it's not easy.
Speaker 1: Like you you don't realize how much it really affects,
Speaker 1: you know, your whole life. How did you. I think
Speaker 1: what happened was I knew Tamar from a few years back.
Speaker 1: I actually helped my sister in law and I do
Speaker 1: party planning kind of on the side of the hobby,
Speaker 1: and we planned a baby shower for her when her
Speaker 1: granddaughter was born, and I got to know her through
Speaker 1: that process. And then a couple of years ago, UM
Speaker 1: casting people had to reach out to me and said,
Speaker 1: Tamar recommend to do and so I actually had auditions
Speaker 1: two years ago, I believe, and then didn't hear anything
Speaker 1: from them for a couple of years, and then this year,
Speaker 1: just got an email from someone at Bravo's thing. You know,
Speaker 1: we want to audition you again. We think it would
Speaker 1: be great for the show. And then just went from there,
Speaker 1: just went through the whole process. Yeah, what has been
Speaker 1: the most disappointing, like in a person at the show
Speaker 1: that you thought you were friends with. Well, you know,
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what's disappointing is I feel like I
Speaker 1: was really naive going into it because I'm really a
Speaker 1: girl girl, Like I have a ton of girlfriends and
Speaker 1: so I've always been able to easily make friends and
Speaker 1: hang out with girls and have a good time. And
Speaker 1: I really thought going into it that people would like
Speaker 1: me right right, so and when people don't, I know,
Speaker 1: and that's to me. And then like then why why
Speaker 1: did you say yes? Because I would think that you
Speaker 1: would like look at the drama on the show and
Speaker 1: be like, I don't even want to be involved in
Speaker 1: that because you are such a girl's girl. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: because I really didn't. Honestly, I hadn't even watched the
Speaker 1: show since like two thousand and thirteen. I hadn't seen
Speaker 1: any episode, but I knew, like I I obviously follow
Speaker 1: like you know, some Houselos Instagram accounts and things like that,
Speaker 1: so I knew kind of what was going on and that,
Speaker 1: you know, people not getting along, and I don't know,
Speaker 1: I guess I was just I just had so high
Speaker 1: hope that, like I was, you know, you're going to change,
Speaker 1: like you're going to change the women to you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but they was. I figured there would be drama, Like
Speaker 1: I knew that, but I thought it would be like
Speaker 1: more naturally, like we all were friends, and then drama
Speaker 1: arose out of that. I didn't realize that people would
Speaker 1: just be so resistant to like having anything to do
Speaker 1: with you. I'm sorry, It's like, how do you like?
Speaker 1: Because I get the hard I mean, it hurts me
Speaker 1: when I read comments about people that don't like me.
Speaker 1: So you're getting it not only in the show, but
Speaker 1: I'm sure you're if you read comments online like people
Speaker 1: aren't nice, you know, So if you're getting it from
Speaker 1: like those angles, it's like, how how are you? Like?
Speaker 1: It's it's hard. There are days when like I have cried,
Speaker 1: I've cried and been like what the hell was I doing?
Speaker 1: You know? But you know they're I have lots of
Speaker 1: really positive comments to where people reached out to me
Speaker 1: directly and say thank you so much for being Um,
Speaker 1: just like a loss of fresh air, like just acting
Speaker 1: like you know, like not really wanting to work out,
Speaker 1: like not having you know, like these you know have
Speaker 1: to be a plaze to and be perfect in Orange
Speaker 1: County and you know, talking about your fertility struggle and
Speaker 1: you know, just being when real and your sister carried
Speaker 1: your babies. Yes, all three. Wow, what a selfless thing
Speaker 1: to do. That's amazing. You have three s I have three.
Speaker 1: So I have two stepdaughters. So my husband has a
Speaker 1: seventeen year old with twelve year old with his first wife,
Speaker 1: and then he and I had three little ones together.
Speaker 1: My daughter is five and then twin boys that are three.
Speaker 1: So when did when did you how long you've been
Speaker 1: married to your now husband most ten years almost, and
Speaker 1: then how long we married to your last husband? Um,
Speaker 1: that was five years. It was maybe we lived together
Speaker 1: six months out of the five years. Actually, So like
Speaker 1: my first marriage, I was young and he was in
Speaker 1: the military, and I think out of the five years
Speaker 1: that we were actually married, I think we only lived
Speaker 1: together or SMaL other maybe six months out of the
Speaker 1: whole five years. Do you think that's what kind of
Speaker 1: caused the break in your marriage? Did what called up?
Speaker 1: Do you think like the distance and not being together
Speaker 1: is that will cause the break definitely? And like as
Speaker 1: soon as we we got married, I was like twenty six,
Speaker 1: and then I went to law school and he um,
Speaker 1: he was in I don't know, he was stationed everywhere
Speaker 1: and it just you know, it just didn't work out.
Speaker 1: I mean there's no animositar or anything. I actually don't
Speaker 1: even remember being married. But I always forget to other people,
Speaker 1: how is how is this? How is the step kids? Mom?
Speaker 1: I always like to know at that was a very
Speaker 1: very difficult and tumultuous relationship four years until May the
Speaker 1: six months ago, because you're on the show. I I
Speaker 1: don't know what burden. I have no idea. I think
Speaker 1: really what happened is my twelve year old stepdaughter is
Speaker 1: really kind of you know, having issues with her mom,
Speaker 1: and so she's been telling my husband a lot of things.
Speaker 1: And then I think her mom realized that like, in
Speaker 1: order to parent these teenage girls, like they need to
Speaker 1: stick together, like she you know, being combative with him
Speaker 1: and not telling him things and you know, trying to
Speaker 1: keep him out of things. It's not working. Is it
Speaker 1: off limits for the kids on the show. No, you
Speaker 1: know what, she actually she let them film a little bit,
Speaker 1: and then she didn't let them film, and then towards
Speaker 1: the end she let them film again. But they're so
Speaker 1: they're it's very rare. It's probably jealousy too. I would
Speaker 1: think I would be like, yeah, if Michaelina got divorced
Speaker 1: and he was dating some of the cow's wife girl
Speaker 1: and and you know, I would be like, I would
Speaker 1: just be jealous. So don't take it as like she
Speaker 1: doesn't like you. I mean, she might not like you,
Speaker 1: but but I mean, like, don't take it. I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean that's got to be hard on like both
Speaker 1: sides for sure. Exactly. I just wanted to do whatever
Speaker 1: the kids wanted to do, Like, I just wanted them
Speaker 1: not feel left out because my kids were filming. Very true.
Speaker 1: How are all of the kids adjusting to it? Because
Speaker 1: it has it affected them at school? Has it the
Speaker 1: teens at least? Well? No, because I don't know. I
Speaker 1: mean I need to ask my two older girls. They're
Speaker 1: they're actually in Europe with my mother in law took
Speaker 1: them to Europe, so they're out doing European things so,
Speaker 1: and I mean, hey, I feel like at their age two,
Speaker 1: I mean they're able to know, especially with Instagram and
Speaker 1: stuff and how influencing has kind of taken over. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's a great if they if they want to be
Speaker 1: in that world at all. I mean, it's a great
Speaker 1: kind of start for to have like such a platform,
Speaker 1: you know, right. I just I My husband and I
Speaker 1: have both had talks with the older girls about not
Speaker 1: taking things personally if they read things about me or
Speaker 1: about him, and just realizing that, you know, people aren't
Speaker 1: kind and not kind of at all. I was just
Speaker 1: I was just texting. Yeah, I was just texting with Amy,
Speaker 1: our producer. Last night. I had this one lady on
Speaker 1: the show and then I found out I had this
Speaker 1: interview with us Weekly, and um, I was just talking
Speaker 1: about how I want to have sex more because I'm
Speaker 1: pregnant and my hormones and stuff, and you know, she
Speaker 1: was she basically called me an idiot and said I'm
Speaker 1: disrespecting my husband. And I'm like, oh my god, this
Speaker 1: is the same girl that was like on on our show.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, Amy, can you believe this? It's because
Speaker 1: I didn't. I responded to her one time, and then
Speaker 1: from then I guess she thought we were like best friends.
Speaker 1: And because I haven't responded again like then she had,
Speaker 1: then she thinks it's okay to go on and like
Speaker 1: call me an idiot on other thinking about this, I
Speaker 1: don't know why I kind of bothered me or stuck
Speaker 1: with me, stuck with me. I don't know what to
Speaker 1: tell you to do or what I could do. It's
Speaker 1: like you kind of don't know what to do. I know, well,
Speaker 1: and here's the thing. People like, oh, like she sounds
Speaker 1: like a call girl. And I'm like, because I said
Speaker 1: I wanted to have sex with I mean, people are
Speaker 1: just so me like they're just like behind a computer
Speaker 1: and they're just mean. And it's like and I'm thirty
Speaker 1: four years old and I used to right, yeah, so
Speaker 1: and then one girl, she's the one girl called me
Speaker 1: something and I looked on her page and she follows me,
Speaker 1: and I was like, please unfollow me if you have, like,
Speaker 1: if you think that of me, please unfine. No matter
Speaker 1: how many times people say, don't let it bother you,
Speaker 1: it does. I know. That's and that's how I don't know, Emily,
Speaker 1: how you can be I'm like, I just I mean,
Speaker 1: I've never I was never a sorority girl. I couldn't
Speaker 1: be around girls like that. Are not like that. I
Speaker 1: can tell you that, I girl. I mean, I just
Speaker 1: don't believe either. I'm telling you guys and tories in
Speaker 1: the other room, she was in a sorority too. Sororities
Speaker 1: are what you the exact opposite. I don't believe it.
Speaker 1: Like I promise you, I will do a whole show
Speaker 1: on it, because they are like the most loyal friends.
Speaker 1: They never talk bleep about these girls don't know how
Speaker 1: not to talk. Kind of got the only thing we
Speaker 1: all have, the only thing that does happen in authority.
Speaker 1: I will say this is sometimes girls kind of claim
Speaker 1: the fraternity boy, and it's real vague on how long
Speaker 1: that last. But that's really the only issue you have
Speaker 1: is that they like might kiss some say, and then
Speaker 1: that guy's off limits to hi fies, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. But that's the only thing I do because
Speaker 1: I cannot go and I and it's not that I'm
Speaker 1: not a girl's like Emily, Like I would and here's
Speaker 1: the thing, I would be, like you, I'd naively go
Speaker 1: on a show like this and be like everyone's gonna
Speaker 1: like me because I'm friends with everybody and I'm nice
Speaker 1: to people, and I don't want people to me, and
Speaker 1: so in the second when something happens, I'd be like why,
Speaker 1: Like it would tear me up that like I hurt
Speaker 1: some because sometimes I'm very sarcastic and that does get
Speaker 1: me into trouble at times, but it's not. I'm never
Speaker 1: malicious in a way where I mean to hurt somebody's feelings.
Speaker 1: And that was the other thing is like, that's why
Speaker 1: the other new girl, Gina, I actually like we're really
Speaker 1: good friends and we bond because I think we kind
Speaker 1: of have the same personality where I spent my whole
Speaker 1: life kind of bantering with my sister, like making fun
Speaker 1: of each other with exactly you should be able to
Speaker 1: make fun of your friends and joke around and be
Speaker 1: sarcastic without someone thinking you're a horrible person and getting
Speaker 1: mad and like crying and running away. It's like we want,
Speaker 1: but we also like what we probably do wrong too,
Speaker 1: is we they might not know us as well as
Speaker 1: other people know us, so then they don't they're confused
Speaker 1: with how we deliver certain things, which is you know,
Speaker 1: something that I have to remind myself of like, oh,
Speaker 1: this person doesn't know my sarcasm, so they're not They're
Speaker 1: gonna think I'm being either a bee or something, but
Speaker 1: I'm just it's my way of love. I make fun
Speaker 1: of you, and I like exactly totally. My mom got
Speaker 1: so held the out of shape over Fourth of July
Speaker 1: because I was like making fun of her and I
Speaker 1: was like, Mom, like, you know me, like that's like
Speaker 1: what we like. I love you, That's why I'm like
Speaker 1: being that way. But sometimes I guess we can take
Speaker 1: it too far, Emily, But I don't know. I guess,
Speaker 1: but you know what, I can take it too though, though,
Speaker 1: yeah totally right. Well yeah, but yes, but if it's
Speaker 1: if it's I don't know, yes, yeah, no, totally. Um well,
Speaker 1: I love you. Thank you so much for being on
Speaker 1: the show. I think you're so sweet and honestly, because
Speaker 1: if you you're the reason now I want to watch
Speaker 1: Real Housewives and Orange County, so I'm going to tune in. Look,
Speaker 1: I like you, Okay, I like you exactly, all right,
Speaker 1: talk soon, okay, best she's by. Oh she's sweet now.
Speaker 1: I want to watch her because I just be honest,
Speaker 1: I'm just not like a Housewives gal. I'm not either,
Speaker 1: and I have a few friends that like watch it
Speaker 1: and they're like obsessed with it, but I just it
Speaker 1: gives me anxiety. It made me so fund out that
Speaker 1: people are criticizing her husband. Do you think that's it
Speaker 1: would be worse for you for what they do to
Speaker 1: you or what they do to Michael. Oh, that's tough.
Speaker 1: I mean, I know Mike can handle himself, because there
Speaker 1: are times when things people do still say mean things
Speaker 1: about Michael, but not like he's gay or something like that,
Speaker 1: Like that's that's hurtful. It's really like you can say like, oh,
Speaker 1: he's a cheater, okay, whatever, what like ha ha whatever,
Speaker 1: But like to say that he's gay or like Mascalini
Speaker 1: mess whatever where it is. Yeah, yeah, judge that or
Speaker 1: anything like that would be really tough. I think hard
Speaker 1: on the kids. Yeah, I just think that's you know
Speaker 1: that information lives online for I will admit that sometimes.
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna really admit it that sometimes I may
Speaker 1: judge or be gossipy or whatever, but only like privately.
Speaker 1: I would never write it somewhere. So that's the part
Speaker 1: that throws me off that they're like say it to you.
Speaker 1: When I talk bad about you, Janna, I just do
Speaker 1: it in the other or somebody else, like I mean,
Speaker 1: and then we get over it. It's sign there is
Speaker 1: some element of human nature. But they're bullies. They're adult bullies.
Speaker 1: Well that's the thing. And I'm like, you're and you're like,
Speaker 1: you're signing up for that, like you're signing up to
Speaker 1: be told, like and that just that gives me so
Speaker 1: much anxiety, like that, like through the way I could
Speaker 1: ever do reality shows if it was literally just me
Speaker 1: and my husband and like my friends, like my friends,
Speaker 1: Like I could never be in a show with other
Speaker 1: women that are attacking me and my personality and like
Speaker 1: that would that would just eat me alive. But at
Speaker 1: the same time, there are women that can do that
Speaker 1: and that do have thicker skin. And that's now, this
Speaker 1: is why we have enjoy Just don't because here's at
Speaker 1: the end of the Yes, I'm sure like yeah, like Delta,
Speaker 1: Delta game whatever, But those girls, you cannot tell me
Speaker 1: they do not talk behind those girls other girls backs.
Speaker 1: I don't believe it for a second that they don't.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I didn't experience that in my stroority.
Speaker 1: And they're still my closest friends. And what's crazy is
Speaker 1: you can go twenty years without talking to someone, but
Speaker 1: you have that like camaraderie, ay sister bond that if
Speaker 1: you need something and you're like, hey, and I haven't
Speaker 1: talked to you in twenty years. I'm a Delta Gamma.
Speaker 1: Here's my number five five like reads Weatherspoon Action, it's
Speaker 1: sort of like the loyalty. Yeah, I want you guys
Speaker 1: to email me at Janna Creem and I heart media
Speaker 1: dot com because I'd like to discuss more about this
Speaker 1: um sorority girl stuff, because story real stories, like I
Speaker 1: want to hear I don't want to We were like
Speaker 1: a best friends, Like I don't like, I don't believe you.
Speaker 1: I want to hear something. They've got a little pinky
Speaker 1: but otherwise are you coming to say, yeah, Tori? You
Speaker 1: say what? This is Tori? Who's our who's like just
Speaker 1: so beautiful. There's a girl that hated you. I know
Speaker 1: for sure. She's tall, she's beautiful, she's like a runway model.
Speaker 1: And I was a Kappa and Tori was a Kappa,
Speaker 1: which is so you guys are automatically best friends and
Speaker 1: I don't guess and why I hired her that I
Speaker 1: would not have this job without having the legacy to
Speaker 1: co call upon too. Okay, read Weatherspoon. I don't believe
Speaker 1: you're the world. It is true that because I'm sure
Speaker 1: I'm breaking some sort of HR code here. But both
Speaker 1: my assistants were kappas at a different school than mine,
Speaker 1: but they are sorority sisters. We still have the same
Speaker 1: password and the same handshake. It does give them an
Speaker 1: advantage with me because I know we're in the bond
Speaker 1: you have a handshake. But I'll also say, it's just
Speaker 1: like sisters. You know, you you you talk crap about
Speaker 1: each other, you know, behind everything, but well you did
Speaker 1: talk crap about it. You know, I'm saying it does
Speaker 1: an example. But we all share the same last name
Speaker 1: as like a sister. Like that's your bond, you have
Speaker 1: your last name. It's kind of like that, like we're
Speaker 1: all sisters. We're gonna fight with each other, We're gonna
Speaker 1: be upset that you borrowed each other's hair spray without asking,
Speaker 1: but but it's like you all share the last thing
Speaker 1: that It's like we're all Kappas and we all choose
Speaker 1: to be in a story together, like you're choosing. It's
Speaker 1: like you're kind of choosing to love each other, like
Speaker 1: you're choosing to be in a sorority. You're going to
Speaker 1: choose to love each other through that and like just
Speaker 1: have that kind of be the end goal, you know,
Speaker 1: and like we choose you, you choose us. There is
Speaker 1: some LM in to it, and I'm sure people write
Speaker 1: in and have had a different experience, which I totally respect.
Speaker 1: But I can only say as Kappa's, we don't see Kappa's.
Speaker 1: Isn't that just like Daddy's credit card? Like I will
Speaker 1: beg no, listen, you're gonna find that maybe at some schools,
Speaker 1: but maybe maybe it's a jealousy thing. I look, I
Speaker 1: didn't go to college. I didn't, but I would never
Speaker 1: have signed up and I probably would have been and
Speaker 1: we would have been best friends. Like I could not live,
Speaker 1: like I would have started ceremony. But you don't act
Speaker 1: at least like break out, not just live. I mean,
Speaker 1: if you go to college, you live in the dorms,
Speaker 1: it's no different. It's just all girls. And we only
Speaker 1: had two girls. We had two girl rooms, so you
Speaker 1: just had to have two girls in your room. Did
Speaker 1: any girls like hook up? With each other any want
Speaker 1: to ask. No, nothing that I knew about. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm all for it, but not you know, I'm sure
Speaker 1: that it happened like there there it was there one
Speaker 1: girl in your authority that you were like, I don't
Speaker 1: I don't like her wife. There's girls in my astority
Speaker 1: where I'm like, we probably don't share any common grounds.
Speaker 1: Maybe another person, but that would never make me feel
Speaker 1: a different way towards them, as being like, she's just
Speaker 1: a cap of sister, you know. So she called you
Speaker 1: the weird girl that was like, shouldn't have been in
Speaker 1: you would like pick up her phone and hang out
Speaker 1: with her? Yeah, but that's me. I think. I don't understand.
Speaker 1: Obviously you had friends that you're closer with or not
Speaker 1: as close with. You know what. Your bottom line, it's
Speaker 1: sorties are for some people and not brothers. Yeah, that's it.
Speaker 1: And it's not that I'm not a girl's girls. I
Speaker 1: love you. I love you, that's the thing. I know.
Speaker 1: You think I would have you so and you totally
Speaker 1: would have been a rush chair pledge. I don't drink
Speaker 1: like I don't get I had a sip of alcohol
Speaker 1: in my whole life. They don't make you. They don't
Speaker 1: make you do anything but give you candy and presents.
Speaker 1: I swear they don't make you do anything that candy.
Speaker 1: Are you trying to make me fat sabotazed? No, But
Speaker 1: I didn't drink till I was twenty one, and I
Speaker 1: thought for sure, like, oh my gosh, I'm gonna come
Speaker 1: in here and nobody's gonna accept me, Like how am
Speaker 1: I going to fit in with the cool frat boys?
Speaker 1: But you just like like it's just people were like,
Speaker 1: we know, we just want you to be here, and
Speaker 1: in this moment, you still don't buy it. And I'm
Speaker 1: telling you the best time. I just have a hard
Speaker 1: time so fun. I wish I could go move back
Speaker 1: in now. It was so terrible. I didn't do college,
Speaker 1: so I went to college and I it was not
Speaker 1: on my list of they seem it was not of
Speaker 1: my college bucket list. This is a good debate, though,
Speaker 1: so for the next episode next week. So email us
Speaker 1: is it Janna Kramer at Kramer at heart media dot com.
Speaker 1: I want to hear you some writing, sister, but some
Speaker 1: people don't like it and some people do, so it'll
Speaker 1: make like an interesting debate because I'm nothing but open minded. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean into each his own right. It was so awesome.
Speaker 1: It was so awesome. I tell you your your therapist.
Speaker 1: We actually had on a couple of weeks ago. She
Speaker 1: was a Capa Legacy and that's how we found her.
Speaker 1: The Colorado Leslie and you guys, he we did like
Speaker 1: I did the celebrity cappas, Oh marke Megan mar There's
Speaker 1: something hidden about Mega Markele. There's something dark about her.
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Speaker 1: a lot, but she was telling me that she's obsessed
Speaker 1: with the housewives and I've personally never watched any of
Speaker 1: them County Atlanta. It gives me, do you watch them?
Speaker 1: Of course? I get anxiety. That's what gives me anxiety.
Speaker 1: Is our girls like being just like vicious? Someone? Really,
Speaker 1: which one more give us? Like? New York? I get
Speaker 1: New York and New Jersey up, Bethany, Bethany Frankel, York.
Speaker 1: Bethany Frankel's New York. Yes, I saw her catch a
Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago. You did. Actually it was like
Speaker 1: a year ago, but that was really sad news that
Speaker 1: just happened. What happened? Shoot? You know it was an overdose?
Speaker 1: She's here? Oh my god, Hi, I'm so excited. Hi.
Speaker 1: All right, I'm super stoked because I have like the
Speaker 1: biggest personality ever in the studio right now. And you're stunning.
Speaker 1: You're so sweet. Thank you. This is what botox and
Speaker 1: filler look like, right, gorgeous. So I'm pregnant and I
Speaker 1: can't do botox right now, and I'm starting to get
Speaker 1: the lines. So start to hear that in your twenties
Speaker 1: something so But first of all, gonna be thirty five
Speaker 1: in December. Know what babe, I got a bronze. These
Speaker 1: things I can play. You're I mean, you're beautiful. Okay
Speaker 1: for those wives of Dallas, I've got Leanne lackin in
Speaker 1: studio and hey, Sarah, are you here? Baby? Hey babe,
Speaker 1: guess who's in the studio. Oh my god, stop, Oh
Speaker 1: my god. This is the official hot Dog. Don't you
Speaker 1: touch my listen, don't make me take this off my head.
Speaker 1: My girlfriend Sarah is literally obsessive. When she I told
Speaker 1: her that you were going to be on the show,
Speaker 1: she was like, I mean, what was your response, Sarah?
Speaker 1: I flipped out like I look, just one flip or
Speaker 1: was it like a backflip with a twist. I mean,
Speaker 1: we're talking Olympics here. We are gold metal, like landing
Speaker 1: on one foot. I've officially started sweating now and I
Speaker 1: might be wet, but don't worry. I got a panting
Speaker 1: lime on Sarah, so I need. So we kind of
Speaker 1: recapped the show about of last week's about how you
Speaker 1: know you? And I'm gonna tell lean this right now.
Speaker 1: You've been Sarah has been dating this guy for six
Speaker 1: years and can't get the ring. Oh dude, you gotta
Speaker 1: close your legs. That's that, and that's the tip. But
Speaker 1: you have to cut him off, cut him off or wait,
Speaker 1: is he like tremendously older than you? Because I don't know? No, Okay,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, because mine's only five years. But you know what,
Speaker 1: honest like too, I mean, I feel like it was
Speaker 1: a lot of pressure from my friends too, that they
Speaker 1: were like, that's how I am. I'm like, it's just
Speaker 1: so much outside pressure. But like, what did you do?
Speaker 1: I um, basically waited for the ring like a dodo
Speaker 1: butt because it took me nine years, So you got
Speaker 1: three more years, nine years. She got three more years.
Speaker 1: I just sit down and shut up and take it
Speaker 1: nine years that No, I don't want them for Sarah
Speaker 1: or you go ahead, Sarah. What we're gonna say yourself? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm exhausted. My weave is exhausted. But it's the it's
Speaker 1: the panty lana in your underwear, exhausted. Everything is exhausted.
Speaker 1: Anything I can't, I can't, I can't. Do you really
Speaker 1: wait for nine years? Okay? Do you live with him? Yeah?
Speaker 1: They live together? Well, of course, no, californ Um, But like,
Speaker 1: why why did you wait nine years? Well? Because that
Speaker 1: mind's the right one, and I'm to face it. I'm
Speaker 1: never going to find anybody to put up with my
Speaker 1: ask like he does. I mean, and he's a car
Speaker 1: so I don't go to jail. And I'm crazy, like legit,
Speaker 1: my mom had me tested. My mom had me tested.
Speaker 1: And I don't necessarily belong in an institution, but I
Speaker 1: would sure fit in't. Oh my god, I'm having right now.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, We'll come on down. I'll wait for you.
Speaker 1: I mean, she didn't give him birth yet. She's in
Speaker 1: New York right now with your boyfriend. Of I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: you don't have that kind of time. Oh you're in
Speaker 1: New York. Well that runs high. I just stick good
Speaker 1: at stick it out. No, she lives, No, she lives here.
Speaker 1: She's just she's following him places. Yeah. Yeah, I help him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just the whole thing. You you help him, help
Speaker 1: and hope, Like it's a long story. He does like
Speaker 1: hockey schools for kids, and like I'm involved in his
Speaker 1: dad and she does like the hockey school with him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he sounds like a super nice guy. He wants to
Speaker 1: work with kids. You know you're gonna get pregnant, but
Speaker 1: she wants to ring first. Yeah, you gotta do it
Speaker 1: in order. I mean, that's and she's from Texas. Why
Speaker 1: I'm childless because you're from Dallas. After years to take
Speaker 1: a ring, so none's crawling out of me except for
Speaker 1: something that I took an xlex to get out. See,
Speaker 1: this is what you don't want, Sarah. Okay, this this
Speaker 1: can be you in a couple of years. So I'm motivated,
Speaker 1: like right now, but you know what, just just you
Speaker 1: just keep them. You get pictures and you know, you
Speaker 1: show them the shapes and the things you like, and
Speaker 1: you've already done all that ye recently though, like that
Speaker 1: was the thing. What does he say is the reason?
Speaker 1: He just his reason is like, I mean, hello at
Speaker 1: the years, but he's like, what you know, what's the rush?
Speaker 1: You know why he will the rush is that I
Speaker 1: have over reason. They dry up rambling, so I will
Speaker 1: just say do you or don't you? Because if you don't,
Speaker 1: just let me go so that I can, like at
Speaker 1: least try with someone else. I mean, look, I'm young,
Speaker 1: I'm fresh, but you know, give me time because like
Speaker 1: when I left, when I left the one before Rich,
Speaker 1: I mean, do the fact that Rich picked me up.
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, really, how did you meet him? Oh,
Speaker 1: how did I meet him? Um? So, Um, I was
Speaker 1: at the Ritz Carlton in Dallas and I went with
Speaker 1: a friend on a Thursday night, you know because I
Speaker 1: used to be the place to go and um, and
Speaker 1: he saw me and then apparently he knew my friend
Speaker 1: who was we were both models back then, and so
Speaker 1: he went to her Facebook page and like found me
Speaker 1: and her friends and then started messaging me, which I
Speaker 1: thought was totally cute to flirt with me on Facebook.
Speaker 1: But then it was like, you know, do you want
Speaker 1: to go out? And I was like, dude, I don't
Speaker 1: take people from the internet. That sounds so stupid, like everything.
Speaker 1: And then he was like, well google me, and I
Speaker 1: was like that is the most conceited thing I've ever
Speaker 1: freaking heard. You want me to google your ass and
Speaker 1: before or after I've sleep with you, I mean, come on,
Speaker 1: it's ridiculous. So but then, you know what, we hadn't
Speaker 1: ever like officially met. But then when I finally agreed
Speaker 1: to go out with them, I opened the door and y'all,
Speaker 1: I was like, he's a shit shit. I mean like
Speaker 1: I was like, it's not menial, yeah, and and I
Speaker 1: mean like I opened the door and I thought, did
Speaker 1: I brush my teeth or my underwear clean? Did I
Speaker 1: save everything? Sure I had not. I'm pretty sure later
Speaker 1: that night when he was running his hand up and
Speaker 1: down my leg that he was like braiding the hair
Speaker 1: on but it didn't stop him. So I mean like
Speaker 1: he has stuck through some serious and so it's been
Speaker 1: nine years. Um, it's will in February we celebrate ten
Speaker 1: years and we're still not married. So when did you
Speaker 1: get engaged? A freaking ring? Until all your friends? I
Speaker 1: gave it to you and then they'll lay off. And
Speaker 1: then that did you buy? Did you buy yourself that ring?
Speaker 1: He bought you that right? Yes, it's his heart of
Speaker 1: hearty Sarah, it's the heart. It's got three hearts on it. No,
Speaker 1: it's got a market you know, it's got three diamonds.
Speaker 1: Want to be but he's a police officer. I literally
Speaker 1: thought that his father was a money manager and managed
Speaker 1: money for a lot of really wealthy people. And then
Speaker 1: when his sadly his father contructed lung cancer and it
Speaker 1: metastasized into his brain and he and I took care
Speaker 1: of his father until his father passed. And so his
Speaker 1: father left all of the children very well off, and
Speaker 1: so do you have any regrets of not having kids? No?
Speaker 1: Have you seen kids? Sorry monkeys with teeth? No, regrets
Speaker 1: of not doing it like sooner, Like do you look
Speaker 1: back and you're like I wish I like we were
Speaker 1: married like five years ago. Really No, I'm so like
Speaker 1: go with the flow and you so you've just never
Speaker 1: had the maternal instinct you didn't want You've never wanted kids,
Speaker 1: so you don't want to see like, I'm just not
Speaker 1: kid frondly does he have children? Yes? He has a
Speaker 1: twenty year old Okay, yeah, do you now like girl
Speaker 1: or boy? Girl? Do you guys get We get along great,
Speaker 1: we get along. About the ex wife? Um, I don't
Speaker 1: really have to deal with her. I mean right because
Speaker 1: the child is grown, she's an adult. Yeah, thank god,
Speaker 1: yeah saying that thing. No, not at all. I just
Speaker 1: I'm just so curious because it's like I've like when
Speaker 1: I was like five, I was like I want to
Speaker 1: be a mom, like just like you have that maternal
Speaker 1: nurturing and I love women that know that the way
Speaker 1: they don't that you grew up with a mother and
Speaker 1: a father and you had a nice childhood. No, No,
Speaker 1: I mean I grew up with a mom and a dad,
Speaker 1: but they were divorced. My dad. I caught my dad
Speaker 1: cheating like the whole nine yards, so it's like and
Speaker 1: then you know, I dated that men from there. But
Speaker 1: I've always wanted to be a mom. Like but I
Speaker 1: love the fact that, like when women know that they're
Speaker 1: just like this is I don't and it's okay. And
Speaker 1: I was. I was abandoned by my mother and my
Speaker 1: biological father divorced my mother before that, and my grandmother
Speaker 1: gratefully took me in. And then I was sexually molested
Speaker 1: for the next eight years by my best friend's father
Speaker 1: across the street every other weekend. So I didn't have
Speaker 1: any desire to bring a child into a world that
Speaker 1: I felt would do nothing but torture it. Right, But
Speaker 1: what about changing that? Did you ever think my time
Speaker 1: changing other people's lives? Like, That's why I do so
Speaker 1: much charity and nonprofit and reach out to my community.
Speaker 1: That's my thing. I pay it forward. I don't want
Speaker 1: to see anybody with shame, shame kills, I don't want
Speaker 1: to see anybody suffer. I am about making other people's
Speaker 1: lives better because I know what it's like to not
Speaker 1: have a great life. Wow, well that's beautiful. But that's
Speaker 1: amazing though that you you you didn't become bitter from that,
Speaker 1: you'd become a you know drug, you have a choice. Well,
Speaker 1: you know. And I've had a lot of friends like
Speaker 1: when I tell them the whole, like everything that I
Speaker 1: went through, They're like, how are you not a crack hooker?
Speaker 1: And I'm like, well, by the grace of God. And
Speaker 1: you know, I make mistakes and I'm gonna keep falling
Speaker 1: because I'm human. But at the same time, if I
Speaker 1: don't try every day to wake up and be better,
Speaker 1: do better, live better, give better, then that's my own
Speaker 1: damn faults. And you have nobody to blame and talk
Speaker 1: crop about but me. But because I get up every
Speaker 1: day and live acts two, I've pitched my tent in
Speaker 1: the land of hope. Mind you, Sometimes that tent isn't
Speaker 1: a damn swamp and I'm swimming from a lab with
Speaker 1: a date or but you know, I'm still pitching it.
Speaker 1: I'm still trying. And that's what life is about, dude.
Speaker 1: You don't Life doesn't end until you quit. So don't quit.
Speaker 1: Don't quit, because tomorrow is gonna be different. I love that. Hey, Sarah,
Speaker 1: we gotta take a call from Joe Nichols. So I
Speaker 1: love you. We'll talk soon. You want to say, Battie
Speaker 1: your love of your life? Fine, you got a girl,
Speaker 1: you can get that rainy Um. So I'm playing a
Speaker 1: show with Um, Toby, Keith, Nelly, Joe Nichols. So we'd
Speaker 1: have to take a call from Joe really fasty mind,
Speaker 1: and you can just google him. He's real cute, so
Speaker 1: you can jump on alien Joe. Hey, Darlin, it's Janna.
Speaker 1: And by the way, I have a studio filled with
Speaker 1: ladies right now. Hello, Hi Joy are you Oh there's
Speaker 1: that country boy? Hey? How ex? I didn't are you
Speaker 1: to come play a l A very sad? I think
Speaker 1: I've always heard of the form, I've never been there,
Speaker 1: And you've never been to l A. No, he's never
Speaker 1: been to the Oh. Okay, for people listening that don't know,
Speaker 1: the Forum is like an iconic venue in l A.
Speaker 1: And Jenna will explain. But this is like so crazy
Speaker 1: what you're doing that it's a tailgate fest. So people
Speaker 1: can actually go to this concert in their trucks and
Speaker 1: watched the show from their tailgate. Yeah, that's exactly right.
Speaker 1: I don't have many trucks there are in LA. But yeah, hey,
Speaker 1: my husband's got a truck. So he's the one out
Speaker 1: of something, you know, so he'll he'll at least bring
Speaker 1: his truck. But hey, Joe, what's that thing you're you're
Speaker 1: you just released the Tradition Country Songs this year. Yes, Um,
Speaker 1: it's called to Never Gets Told Traditional Country Series. Basically
Speaker 1: what it is is, um, I went back and took
Speaker 1: some of my favorite songs growing up, country songs by
Speaker 1: some of my favorite country singers. That it's just a series.
Speaker 1: We released the song every month that uh, there's one
Speaker 1: from a like a throwback song like that like no
Speaker 1: getting from Me for money Mills. Yeah, people that are
Speaker 1: closer to my age in the room, I'll know that song.
Speaker 1: You can try anything you I love that. Thank you
Speaker 1: very quick Country radio right now, you have any are
Speaker 1: you releasing any more singles? Or what's going on? Tommy
Speaker 1: Tommy Thomas. We had it's been kind of a UM,
Speaker 1: I don't know how to put it, but it's been
Speaker 1: kind of a whirlwind of events. Again, they closed the labels,
Speaker 1: the imprint that I was on and kind of absorbed
Speaker 1: me into a different label. In that time, we had
Speaker 1: a song called Billy Graham's Bottle that, um, you know,
Speaker 1: there's the staff. Half the staff was gone so they
Speaker 1: couldn't like really keep working, and so in the shuffle,
Speaker 1: you know, Billy Gram's Bottle was kind of lost. But
Speaker 1: I think going to go in and recording new stuff
Speaker 1: and I'm writing and looking for songs and and well,
Speaker 1: I love that, and I love you. I think you're awesome.
Speaker 1: You've always been very sweet to me every time I've
Speaker 1: opened for you, So thank you for that. And um,
Speaker 1: I'm excited to see you in l A at the
Speaker 1: Forum tailgate party. It's gonna be fun. September one, Labor
Speaker 1: Day weekend. You can go to uh l A tailgate
Speaker 1: Fest dot com to get your tickets. I love you, Joe,
Speaker 1: I love y'all to thank you very much. And if
Speaker 1: you want to see Joanna at the tailgate fest, you
Speaker 1: can go. We're raising money for charity for the Red Cross,
Speaker 1: so you can go to if only dot com and
Speaker 1: bid on two tickets, v I P tickets, pit passes
Speaker 1: and you get to meet Joe Nichols and Randy Houser
Speaker 1: not me apparently, but that's fine. Were good are Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's cool. I'm fine whatever, just just it's all good.
Speaker 1: I've been so busy. I'm the first. It's all good.
Speaker 1: I'm the first person to be playing that show. It's
Speaker 1: it's fine. I'll just don't don't seem better about this
Speaker 1: at all. I don't at all. His doctor friends will
Speaker 1: be like, they're like raging on. So it's cool. They'll
Speaker 1: be like five people for me. But if you guys
Speaker 1: want to come early and support, you know, a little people,
Speaker 1: come on, she's not so little people, She's pregnant. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I got two people the name Hey, okay, so can
Speaker 1: I just read this for tou liam. It says Leanne
Speaker 1: is determined to change her impulsive behavior with the help
Speaker 1: of medication meditation. But you can read it as medication
Speaker 1: and if you've got some past, yeah, see what pregnancy
Speaker 1: does to you people? Nothing good. You think this is bad,
Speaker 1: wait till the kid comes out? Literally underlined it two.
Speaker 1: I was like, wow, she's that's that's very vocal to
Speaker 1: do medication about, like your impulsive behavior meditation. You're not
Speaker 1: miss that medication, don't you? Because you're pregnant? I know right.
Speaker 1: My head is so cloudy. Um, so to talk to
Speaker 1: me about so you're like admitting that you have an
Speaker 1: impulsive behavior totally do from my childhood. Actually, Um, for
Speaker 1: the first time at the season two reunion, I really
Speaker 1: challenged myself. I said, I want to take behavioral management.
Speaker 1: I want to learn how to manage my anger. I'm
Speaker 1: not very good. I'm very quick to anger, and trust me,
Speaker 1: nobody wants to give me angry Satan himself doesn't want
Speaker 1: to come for me. Okay, Um, So I said, I
Speaker 1: want to I want to do therapy alter my behavior. Well,
Speaker 1: I found out that actually you can't. There's a part
Speaker 1: of your brain called the amygdala, and it's your fight
Speaker 1: flight or freeze part of your brain. So when you're
Speaker 1: amgdala kicks in, especially if you have PTSD like I do,
Speaker 1: the entire rest of your brain shuts down and all
Speaker 1: the blood goes to your amygdala. It's a survival instinct.
Speaker 1: So I literally can't alter my behavior because my behavior
Speaker 1: is keeping me alive. So when you're a child, if
Speaker 1: you're tortured, you amygdala grows exponentially, and the larger that
Speaker 1: you're amigdala is the faster you react. So and then
Speaker 1: it's why you do sorry meditation. So monks have been
Speaker 1: the only people and that have shown to be able
Speaker 1: to shrink through migdala because they spend so much of
Speaker 1: their time meditating. So I took up meditation. I made
Speaker 1: sure to meditate every morning every time before we went
Speaker 1: and filmed. I was just I found my zen and
Speaker 1: you know, you can just watch the girls try to
Speaker 1: get me out of my zoon. I was just, is there,
Speaker 1: like is it tam transidental meditation or is it literally
Speaker 1: just I m I went and did a meditation class
Speaker 1: with David's Sunshine, the director of the Dallas Yogi Center,
Speaker 1: that's his real name. Like, I want to be Land Sunshine.
Speaker 1: I just want to be that. I at least want
Speaker 1: the rainbows and the glitter one bang one bang um.
Speaker 1: So I took a class in it, and then he
Speaker 1: was kind enough to gift me a meditation bowl and
Speaker 1: so I take it home, and you know, I took
Speaker 1: it with me on if your drops, let's face it
Speaker 1: every now and then. Banging the bowl really helped. So yeah,
Speaker 1: basically I'm just a bowl banging be this year. So,
Speaker 1: I mean, you obviously have a personality that's but you
Speaker 1: also have such like you have the person no you
Speaker 1: have trauma from your childhood, you have you know, like,
Speaker 1: do you sometimes put on that persona to mask that
Speaker 1: or is that just is that just your way of
Speaker 1: being like trying to be fun and funny and I
Speaker 1: like to be Listen, I've lived the minutia who wants
Speaker 1: to swim through it on a daily base. So you're like,
Speaker 1: I want to be happy, I want to be I
Speaker 1: want to have fun. I'm the fun girl. I'm the
Speaker 1: party girl. I'm the one that every one of my
Speaker 1: friends is like, oh my gosh, we're gonna have this
Speaker 1: event when you come sat at the table because you'll
Speaker 1: make the party. I'm the fun table. And so for me,
Speaker 1: it's hard because I've never really gotten to be able
Speaker 1: to show that to my cast members because they don't
Speaker 1: ever want to see that. They want to be like
Speaker 1: bully beast Bear, Well why don't you show them that
Speaker 1: the other side? And they're not you Listen, you can
Speaker 1: put blinders on a horse, but that doesn't mean they're
Speaker 1: going to see something through the blinder. But what if
Speaker 1: you get real, like real vulnerable and honest about I've
Speaker 1: done that, You've tried, yeah, yeah, really, Like I mean, look,
Speaker 1: I did actual therapy on camera last year with a
Speaker 1: real therapist that I've basically told my therapist last year.
Speaker 1: If I if you don't break me every time I'm
Speaker 1: in here, you're wasting my time. I have no time
Speaker 1: to just sit here. And I can chat with anybody.
Speaker 1: I can go down to Starbucks and chat with somebody.
Speaker 1: I want to learn, I want to grow. I can't
Speaker 1: do that without guidance. And so that's one of the
Speaker 1: things that I constantly am learning and growing. And I'll
Speaker 1: show you on my phone. There's actually a place in
Speaker 1: Dallas that I plan on starting to go to. It's
Speaker 1: a it's a neurological center where they put a cap
Speaker 1: on you and it just you stare at a really
Speaker 1: peaceful thing and then you get to see what your
Speaker 1: brain is actually going through in this moment of peace.
Speaker 1: And my brain is what's called hyper vigilant. It never stops,
Speaker 1: it's always going. It's if things are good, it's like,
Speaker 1: when's a crap and fallout, who's gonna tip me? How
Speaker 1: did the anger management classes work? Because I know my
Speaker 1: husband had to take some because he's got like he's
Speaker 1: got a very short temper and he it's it's it's been. Luckily,
Speaker 1: he's taken anger management therapy and he's gotten so much better,
Speaker 1: But it's still like when that's a part of you,
Speaker 1: like when it's your core, and when people push your triggers,
Speaker 1: and so what you have to do is change your triggers,
Speaker 1: and you're everyone's going to get to see that. This year,
Speaker 1: I changed my buttons. So you can type all you want,
Speaker 1: but you're gonna have to hit nipples to get me
Speaker 1: to go, well, how did you how did you change?
Speaker 1: How did you change your triggers? Therapy hard, hard, weekly work.
Speaker 1: Does rich go to therapy with you? Sometimes he's gone
Speaker 1: with me just so that um, he can understand what
Speaker 1: it's like to go through like I mean, for instance,
Speaker 1: I'm actually now with a brand new therapist, and one
Speaker 1: of the things that I never knew. Part of my
Speaker 1: anger comes from the fact that I'm pissed at my
Speaker 1: three year old self for never telling anybody what I
Speaker 1: was going through. And my therapist just like, have you
Speaker 1: do you know what a three year old looks like?
Speaker 1: And I'm like, no, I don't, well you from your
Speaker 1: three year old, But my three year old takes over.
Speaker 1: She's so angry at the world and I'm as an
Speaker 1: adult so mad at her for not telling somebody. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And so for the first time when my therapist was like,
Speaker 1: you know, Lee, and I'm really proud of your three
Speaker 1: year old self because she did the right thing. She
Speaker 1: kept her mouth shut, she took it, and she survived.
Speaker 1: Not a lot of three year old survived. And and
Speaker 1: what's crazy too, and like a relationship because Michael and
Speaker 1: I did a whole intensive It was like, I'm I
Speaker 1: always go to my five year old self, and he
Speaker 1: always goes to his you know, and his is another age,
Speaker 1: So are fourteen and five year old? Yeah? And I
Speaker 1: don't Yeah, I just want to be loved and told
Speaker 1: I'm good enough. And that's your five year old that
Speaker 1: didn't get that. So my seven year old didn't get that.
Speaker 1: My seven year old never got my mother's approval or
Speaker 1: my mother's love. I never I was never told I
Speaker 1: was good enough for my mom. So when your own
Speaker 1: mother doesn't want you, why would anybody else? Exactly? So
Speaker 1: there's also so I have variations of all that, but
Speaker 1: you know that that what my therapist says to me
Speaker 1: is do you really want your five year old self
Speaker 1: front in your line? No? And that's the thing you
Speaker 1: have to you have to speak from here and that,
Speaker 1: but it takes so it's like, oh my god, I
Speaker 1: never realized that I was speaking from my five year
Speaker 1: old self the internet and I didn't either. And you
Speaker 1: know what, though, when you revelation is amazing the change,
Speaker 1: and it's like, I mean, and you know what I
Speaker 1: do now. I actually have a picture of my three
Speaker 1: year old self on my desk. Michael has a picture
Speaker 1: of me five year old in his wallet. So it's
Speaker 1: like he's because he knows now not to attack that
Speaker 1: five year old and I speak, You're like, no, it's
Speaker 1: but it's work. But it's amazing though, and I'm doing
Speaker 1: it all on national television. Okay, So there's here's my
Speaker 1: question for that. How like, what made you you just
Speaker 1: like open book, don't care because you know what, Look,
Speaker 1: did you think when I walked intoday you were going
Speaker 1: to talk about this or we were going to connect
Speaker 1: on this level? Not at all? So think about how
Speaker 1: many millions of people are out there struggling and not
Speaker 1: understanding why they can't communicate with one another, and we're
Speaker 1: giving him the answer. I'm going to lead him through
Speaker 1: how to make it better. And if I can first
Speaker 1: of all give someone the answer of what the hell
Speaker 1: is going on and then give them the steps to
Speaker 1: take to be a happier person, why wouldn't I want
Speaker 1: to do that? Listen, honey, Jesus Christ nailed himself to
Speaker 1: a cross and bled to death. I'm not going to
Speaker 1: go that far, but I'm willing to go through the
Speaker 1: rest of it. So why not help other people pay
Speaker 1: it forward? I've listen at this point, You're not going
Speaker 1: to torture me or say something to me that I
Speaker 1: haven't already survived. That's to live it out though on
Speaker 1: national TV, especially with girls being so vicious pett Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, doesn't that denis get to you at all?
Speaker 1: It's it's it's them, It's their problem, not mine. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but there's nothing that creeps in. Remember that's true. And
Speaker 1: I'm very grounded, and I know who I am. The
Speaker 1: one thing that my grandmother gave me is I know
Speaker 1: who I am, where I am, and when I am do.
Speaker 1: I make mistakes and I own every single one of them,
Speaker 1: and I apologize for them, but I don't disguise them
Speaker 1: or make excuses for them. Is it getting easier as
Speaker 1: you get older? One you care less. Like at forty,
Speaker 1: I felt like I was better than thirties. I'm hoping girl,
Speaker 1: that middle finger gets a lot of use. I feel like,
Speaker 1: as you like creep into your forties, I felt like
Speaker 1: that's when I just you breathe. You breathe, and that's
Speaker 1: why Bethany says it, but that's why you know. But
Speaker 1: like you breathe and then you're like, oh wait, because
Speaker 1: here's your twenties. It is all about you. You know,
Speaker 1: it's all about you. Every time everybody says something it's
Speaker 1: about you. Thirties you're like, were they talking about me?
Speaker 1: Is this about me? And then forties you're like, listen, honey,
Speaker 1: this is your damn problem. And come fifty you're like,
Speaker 1: really need to figure that out because that does So
Speaker 1: you're as far as you guys, But I'm tag you're it. No,
Speaker 1: But I just I do love the fact that you have.
Speaker 1: You have you have sold to you have a story,
Speaker 1: and you have heart and you're not just playing a character. Now.
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to sell you anything. I'm just here,
Speaker 1: thank you. If I live my authentic life and it
Speaker 1: benefits one person, then my life will not have been
Speaker 1: in vain and all that struggle and all the minutia
Speaker 1: I went through, you know, had a purpose exactly. That's
Speaker 1: what I was saying, take the pain and make it
Speaker 1: a purpose. And that's what that has been my journey
Speaker 1: my entire life. I am one of the of all
Speaker 1: my cast I probably am the one person who's in
Speaker 1: my community the most hands on bringing awareness. Um you know,
Speaker 1: I live and breathe happiest in my LGBT community. Um
Speaker 1: I just I feel at peace with other people who struggle,
Speaker 1: and I feel a connection, and I feel like I
Speaker 1: just want to, like I want to take their pain.
Speaker 1: I just want to, you know, inhale their pain away
Speaker 1: and give them a moment of happiness. And so if
Speaker 1: I can do that, that's you know, worth everything I
Speaker 1: have to go through to get there. I don't care
Speaker 1: how these girls torture me. I really don't. Seriously, I
Speaker 1: love you. That's what. That's what's that's what. Vodka for
Speaker 1: the Real Housewives of Dallas Season three airs of Wednesday
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Speaker 1: And it's like having Christmas four times a year. I mean,
Speaker 1: we have this is a Housewives episode. This is incredible.
Speaker 1: I'm getting my dose of Housewives. I have to fly
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Speaker 1: kind of wanted now that I feel like I know
Speaker 1: these ladies, but we have I want to we have
Speaker 1: our third and final How's Wives on the phone Monique
Speaker 1: Samuel's Hey, how you doing? Hey girl? So I've just
Speaker 1: been getting a complete dose. Jen and I both have been, um,
Speaker 1: just the dose of housewives today, and I'm just I'm
Speaker 1: excited because I feel like all three of women have
Speaker 1: such different personalities. Yes, and you're on the Potomac. I'm
Speaker 1: a set Potomac Potomac. So you have two kids and
Speaker 1: you're pregnant right now. I'm pregnant too today. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: I'm how many weeks are you? Oh my god? Me too?
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Well, I'm I'm do technically my do day.
Speaker 1: It's a few days after years. But I have a
Speaker 1: scheduled c section because I had a c section with
Speaker 1: my first one, and I just don't want to do
Speaker 1: be back. Yes, oh my god, is back. It's it's
Speaker 1: where like if you had a c section and then
Speaker 1: you do have vagina vagina vaginal birth, your c section
Speaker 1: scar could burst and you could like hemorrhie and diet.
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, I'm good. Like yeah, I'm like, I'm
Speaker 1: not going to have you had natural all of them? Yes, yes, okay,
Speaker 1: well that's awesome and oh my god, I'm just like
Speaker 1: I keep telling my husband because he's six six three
Speaker 1: something town this is too. We know when my husband's
Speaker 1: cocktails after we dropped these babies, all yes, seriously, and
Speaker 1: I'm like that's why. I'm like, because do you know
Speaker 1: if you're having a boy or a girl. No, we're
Speaker 1: waiting for the push. Okay, you're waiting for the us. Okay,
Speaker 1: well we're having a boy. And like again, my husband's
Speaker 1: sex sex, he's not, um, I think he's like two something,
Speaker 1: but he's like he's he's have long babies. Your babies
Speaker 1: come out long. My three year old is looks like
Speaker 1: a five year old. Yeah, my five year old looked
Speaker 1: about ten. Yeah, was like, um, how old is he again? Exactly,
Speaker 1: he's he's huge and he's but and you push that out.
Speaker 1: Oh my girl. I told my husband I don't know what,
Speaker 1: but I was clearly meant to have your babies. I mean,
Speaker 1: my husband, my son was almost ten, Towns and you
Speaker 1: did you tear. Did you tear it all? No? I didn't.
Speaker 1: Was amazing, Like he his time and he did the
Speaker 1: whole perennial what's they called the perennial perennial massage or
Speaker 1: whatever it's called, um, where they like move you up
Speaker 1: before the baby comes out. You're not going to there,
Speaker 1: We're gonna take our task. Oh my gosh. Good. And
Speaker 1: I told him. I was like, listen, um, my husband
Speaker 1: wants four. And I told him this baby has already
Speaker 1: caused us to have to push our due dates forward,
Speaker 1: pushed up a week. It's it's already big. And I'm like, look,
Speaker 1: unless you plan on reconstructing this bo vagina, Like I
Speaker 1: don't know what we're gonna crazy? Oh my god? Do
Speaker 1: you well, what do you want? Do you want for?
Speaker 1: Or you find the three? You know, I'm fine with three.
Speaker 1: I was fine with two. Yeah, same disease. Right, Um,
Speaker 1: but you know, once to once they get all independent
Speaker 1: and stuff, and you kind of missed that baby stage.
Speaker 1: So I know that's so we're just we're just talking
Speaker 1: about that because my daughter goes to her first day
Speaker 1: preschool um tomorrow and it's just like I love the independence.
Speaker 1: At the same time, I'm excited to have the baby
Speaker 1: now because I'm like, I want a baby again, you know,
Speaker 1: I wanted, like I want to feel that baby and
Speaker 1: umzing What I also love too is, um, we also
Speaker 1: meant not only our husband's sexex and we're both of
Speaker 1: the so many weeks pregnant together, but you've also had
Speaker 1: um a miscarriage as well, and I've been very vocal
Speaker 1: about my miscarriage is too, so UM. I actually, um
Speaker 1: went on your Twitter and I was seeing some of
Speaker 1: the things you were posting about it, and UM, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's amazing. I don't know if you had the
Speaker 1: same um issue as me, but I'm sure you can relate. UM.
Speaker 1: I did an article on my mom based business, like
Speaker 1: on a website not for Lazy moms dot com, and
Speaker 1: I talked about pregnancy after miscarriage and how I was
Speaker 1: afraid and it took me a little while to really
Speaker 1: start to enjoy this pregnancy. And now I'm like, I'm
Speaker 1: trying to push you out of my head. I'm you know,
Speaker 1: just trying to like really enjoyed the same way I
Speaker 1: enjoyed my mother too. You know, Monique, I hear you
Speaker 1: more than anything, and Honestly, it's I had a count
Speaker 1: out on my phone to twenty four weeks because I've
Speaker 1: just now started to be able to be like, okay,
Speaker 1: if the baby was born now, it could possibly have
Speaker 1: like a sixty percent chance of living. And I still look,
Speaker 1: this is so morbid. But every time like this is
Speaker 1: like t M I too. Every time I go to
Speaker 1: the bathroom, I look to see if there's blood. Yes,
Speaker 1: I wrote an article, did you Oh my god, I
Speaker 1: have to reach the article. I'm getting chills. But yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like and it had no idea, but it's it
Speaker 1: sucks because we can't because because I still even though
Speaker 1: I'm twenty four, even though I'm like, okay, there's a
Speaker 1: chance that if the baby came now would be okay.
Speaker 1: But there's still that chance. And because we've like you know,
Speaker 1: I've had multiple miscarriages, and it's just with you too.
Speaker 1: It's like I haven't gotten to the point where I
Speaker 1: can really relax yet and I have the monitor or
Speaker 1: I have the the the Doppler mark that hop. So
Speaker 1: it's like I try not to do every day. I'm
Speaker 1: trying to do it every other day. But if I
Speaker 1: don't feel it, you know, feel the baby boy moving
Speaker 1: and I start freaking out. I'm like, I'm not for me.
Speaker 1: I almost think that I don't deserve, like I don't
Speaker 1: not have that I don't deserve it, but that it's
Speaker 1: not going to happen. I don't know, I just have
Speaker 1: It's it's so scary. It's like it can't be that good.
Speaker 1: It's it can't because a way. Yeah, no, I totally
Speaker 1: feel you, But girl, just try to indulge in a
Speaker 1: moment and just you know, try to figure out a
Speaker 1: way to just like push it out of your head
Speaker 1: and just like you know, like one thing it taught
Speaker 1: me and I'm sure you can relate as well. Um,
Speaker 1: we have literally no control. I'm like, you know, like
Speaker 1: we literally have no control, but I think we do,
Speaker 1: like my head says that we do. Yeah, like my girlfriends,
Speaker 1: Like some of my girlfriends are fine with drinking wine
Speaker 1: during pregnant and no judgment if women do. And I
Speaker 1: know that one sip of wine wouldn't hurt me, but
Speaker 1: God forbid, if I took one sip of wine and
Speaker 1: something happened to the baby, I'd blame myself for the
Speaker 1: rest of my life. Yeah, and even with me, like
Speaker 1: I can't even stand the smell of it. Like my
Speaker 1: husband drinks our favorite wine weekly and my husband did that,
Speaker 1: I would be so bad that last like right there,
Speaker 1: and I'm just like just the smell of it. I'm
Speaker 1: just like ill like that. It's so crazy because I
Speaker 1: loved wine girl, and it's saying every night like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm not pregnant. It's like my it's my sanctuary, my
Speaker 1: best friend. Ye and now it's like my favorite thing
Speaker 1: to drink is like a cinnamon tea with a little creamer.
Speaker 1: That's How are you on the Housewives? You're so nice?
Speaker 1: Trust if you if you ever watched the episode, you'll
Speaker 1: be like, what are you doing? Well? Now, I'm like,
Speaker 1: now I'm going to because I just feel like we
Speaker 1: have so much in common and I can't wait to
Speaker 1: read's name your blog again? What is it? It's not
Speaker 1: for Lazy Moms dot com? And you have a podcast,
Speaker 1: don't you with Heart Radio? Okay girl another Yeah, we
Speaker 1: just launched it two weeks ago, so congratulations, thank you.
Speaker 1: It's releasing on Wednesday. And it's funny because my husband
Speaker 1: is one of my co hosts. I love, so it's
Speaker 1: really funny, like you get to see a different side
Speaker 1: of us um outside of the show, because we're totally
Speaker 1: like totally being ourselves and he's so unfiltered and people
Speaker 1: just cracked up and left. He's hilarious. What is what
Speaker 1: is your husband's background? What's his what do Oh? Yeah,
Speaker 1: he actually played for Washington Redskins. Husband. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: where this lilired? Yeah? My husband played. He played for
Speaker 1: so he plays rookie here in Jacksonville, and then he
Speaker 1: played four years in Buffalo and then he played his
Speaker 1: last year and Redskins but he ended up getting hurt
Speaker 1: and never he only played um like the preseason and
Speaker 1: then got her and then he retired. What year was that?
Speaker 1: Oh god, it was it was four years ago. Okay,
Speaker 1: so my husband was already out. Wow, okay, that's so crazy.
Speaker 1: Eight years ago. Yeah, about to say if you were
Speaker 1: here at the same time, I know that, but no,
Speaker 1: But I definitely my husband. He's on the show a
Speaker 1: lot too, and it's like they I love I love
Speaker 1: I don't know. I love that our husbands have stuff
Speaker 1: that they want to say, you know, and they have
Speaker 1: their own personalities and oh my god, yeah, I love it.
Speaker 1: We do a topic on the private part, whether or not.
Speaker 1: We think it's the good idea to teach the kids
Speaker 1: the real name versus like the nicknames. That's good. And
Speaker 1: this this podcast he opened all the way up and
Speaker 1: he was so funny because my daughter, she likes to
Speaker 1: bust in the bathroom. She's three now, but now she
Speaker 1: knows like, oh, daddy has a penis, mommy has a vagina.
Speaker 1: And so my husband's like, oh yeah, I can't be
Speaker 1: thinking about her anymore because she she has ways to
Speaker 1: observe it. That's funny. Well here, so that's my question
Speaker 1: for you too, is because I was taking a shower.
Speaker 1: I take a showers with my daughter, and then she
Speaker 1: like put her like if I was like, oh wanni, no, no,
Speaker 1: like we don't touch that that that's like mommy's private part,
Speaker 1: like and you have one too, and she like was
Speaker 1: like touching hers and then like you know, then my
Speaker 1: husband has taken a shower with her before too, and
Speaker 1: he likes she's like definitely touched his wei and it's like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, He's like joely no like but it's
Speaker 1: like they don't know. So it's like that is that
Speaker 1: when you like stop like yeah, well when she she
Speaker 1: actually we shared the story. She actually walked into bathroom.
Speaker 1: My husband had just gotten up a shower. He's reaching
Speaker 1: for his towel and she just stopped leans to the
Speaker 1: side with the hand in her hip. But she said, Daddy,
Speaker 1: is that your penis? He was like at that moment,
Speaker 1: she was too. At the time, we were like, we're done,
Speaker 1: so he can't. He can't put her in a shower
Speaker 1: with him anymore, which just sucks because it's so convenient, right,
Speaker 1: you're trying to just get washed super fast. Now it's
Speaker 1: like I got this belly sticking out in the way,
Speaker 1: and I have to be the one hers and washed
Speaker 1: them up, and and he lotions them. And yeah, my daughter,
Speaker 1: she loves checking herself out. I'm like, why did she
Speaker 1: do this? By the way, isn't shaving so hard when
Speaker 1: you're pregnant. I was shaving this morning and I was
Speaker 1: just like, this belly is like in the way, and
Speaker 1: I'm like trying to like shave my life because and
Speaker 1: it's like probably have patches everywhere. Yeah. I got to
Speaker 1: that point where Chris had to just start like he
Speaker 1: puts my shoes on for me. He actually saved my
Speaker 1: legs um a few times when I was pregnant with
Speaker 1: my son because my daughter, I thought, why with her, well,
Speaker 1: my son, I just stopped straight out. Yeah, that's kind
Speaker 1: of like, yeah, that's why I was with my son.
Speaker 1: Straight out straight out. Yeah, I really, if I had
Speaker 1: to guess, I would say that I'm carrying a boy
Speaker 1: for sure, because it's like sticking straight out like it's
Speaker 1: it's so weird. It reminds me of my pregnancy with
Speaker 1: my son all over again. What's your least favorite thing
Speaker 1: of being in the Housewives? Um? I do not like that.
Speaker 1: I'm a control freak. So when I'm watching episodes, I
Speaker 1: don't like that I don't have control over you know,
Speaker 1: what's being shown because I'm wait, why didn't make the rest?
Speaker 1: I remember when this tapp it? You know. So that's
Speaker 1: probably like my least favorite thing. Um, so you'd be
Speaker 1: a really great producer, Oh I would. Oh see, I'm
Speaker 1: such a control Even my producers they crack up at
Speaker 1: me all the time because I'm always trying to like
Speaker 1: tell them what to do that like you were you
Speaker 1: were so funny thinks that listen to that. So it's
Speaker 1: nice we work together. Girl. When you are in l
Speaker 1: A and our babies are out. Let's have a glass
Speaker 1: of wine. What do you say? Okay, and my brother
Speaker 1: live in l A. Okay, come out. I will definitely
Speaker 1: reach out. All right, let's do it so in the end,
Speaker 1: you know, December on baby, I'm game. So I'm like,
Speaker 1: let's do it. Thank you so much for having for
Speaker 1: coming on the show. And I'm excited to listen to
Speaker 1: your podcast and go and also your blog and everything.
Speaker 1: So not for lazy moms. I cannot wait to meet you.
Speaker 1: Oh ditto girl, Yes, okay, all right, thanks, bye bye.
Speaker 1: Oh I could be friends with her? Well, yeah, you
Speaker 1: guys are living pearl all live. Yeah. I love her literally,
Speaker 1: she's awesome. She's so I feel like we need to
Speaker 1: have like her husband on two and then like my
Speaker 1: gone and then like do like that'd be like cute.
Speaker 1: We need to ask her. I was thinking about it
Speaker 1: because I wanted to know not for lazy moms. Sorry, no,
Speaker 1: it's okay, so next time, mental No, I want to
Speaker 1: ask her because we all have lazy mom moments, some
Speaker 1: more than others. I want to know what her lazy
Speaker 1: mom moment is. You have one, probably like putting on
Speaker 1: the TV when I don't really have to put on
Speaker 1: the TV. You know what I mean, I know what
Speaker 1: about you it's putting on the TV. It's also, um
Speaker 1: rock close at that age where he doesn't he doesn't
Speaker 1: always want to take a bath or a shower. And
Speaker 1: sometimes I'm like, you know what, I don't feel like fighting. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: I totally get that. It's always like fighting baths. But
Speaker 1: she's got really bad skin, so I was like, technically
Speaker 1: I shouldn't give her a bath every day. So, but
Speaker 1: I mean, she gets so dirty. I know, they get
Speaker 1: so dirty. I'm like, it's like wash, wipe, I know.
Speaker 1: I like, I'll give you a sponge bath. Um. This
Speaker 1: was a really fun show and I kind of do
Speaker 1: want to watch now. I'm telling you, I'm flying tomorrow.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna where are you going in New York? Okay? Cool? Um?
Speaker 1: For work? And I am going down to a marathon.
Speaker 1: You're running a marathon? No, I'm gonna. Well, that's I mean,
Speaker 1: I am too. I kind of want to start with
Speaker 1: I think I not to like play favorites, but Monique
Speaker 1: and Ellen, I think like we could be friends first
Speaker 1: and then then I'll watch Leanne with Sarah or something.
Speaker 1: I don't know if she's so entertaining. I think I
Speaker 1: might start with them, yeah, because I just feeling that
Speaker 1: show is full of fire. I just the masks. I like.
Speaker 1: I liked when she got vulnerable, So that's my like,
Speaker 1: that's where I'm like, get there, like stay there, stay
Speaker 1: there with me. But then you have to make people laugh.
Speaker 1: It's like, you don't have to make us laugh, just
Speaker 1: be real, like, just be you, be authentic. I love. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know that was so hard. I get that. Well,
Speaker 1: this was fun. I'm excited. I'm gonna go prepare myself
Speaker 1: for taking Jolie Debrey school. Our hearts will be breaking through.