WEBVTT - Ep. 15 When Housewives Get Real 0:00:01.760 --> 0:00:07.560 Wine Down with Janne Kramer and I Heart Radio podcast. Okay, 0:00:07.960 --> 0:00:09.960 two things. One thing I have to get off my 0:00:10.000 --> 0:00:12.040 chest right now is Julia's going to pre school tomorrow 0:00:12.119 --> 0:00:13.960 and I just we just started talking about it and 0:00:13.960 --> 0:00:15.640 I got a little teerio like are you gonna cry? 0:00:15.640 --> 0:00:18.639 And I'm like, I'm already like pre schwitzing in my eyes. 0:00:19.600 --> 0:00:21.880 I did like I'm gonna started thinking about it. I'm like, 0:00:21.880 --> 0:00:24.880 it's like, it's my girl, and it's I'm so excited 0:00:24.920 --> 0:00:28.520 for her, but I want her to have like her independence. 0:00:28.520 --> 0:00:31.160 But it's like she's getting so independent now that I'm like, 0:00:31.400 --> 0:00:33.960 it's beautiful, but it's also like it's breaking my heart 0:00:34.000 --> 0:00:38.760 a little bit. And realize is they have their old 0:00:38.760 --> 0:00:43.279 little life then I know, and I'm yeah, but I'm 0:00:43.320 --> 0:00:45.400 just so used to her screaming at the door when 0:00:45.400 --> 0:00:47.400 I leave, and you know, even like when I came 0:00:47.400 --> 0:00:49.480 here today for the podcast, I was like bye baby. 0:00:49.479 --> 0:00:52.120 She's like bye mama, and I was like, I love that. 0:00:52.159 --> 0:00:55.920 But also I'm like, oh, like she's good. Tomorrow will 0:00:55.960 --> 0:01:00.520 be hard. She's probably going to cry too. She's not 0:01:00.560 --> 0:01:02.680 going because we went to church. We tried this new 0:01:02.720 --> 0:01:07.400 church out here um on Sunday, and she she went 0:01:07.560 --> 0:01:09.800 right in like the kids center. I didn't even like. 0:01:09.840 --> 0:01:13.720 I was like, but by like, so she's fine. And 0:01:13.760 --> 0:01:16.960 we went to we went to orientation last week and 0:01:17.360 --> 0:01:19.040 when we second we got in her classroom, it's like 0:01:19.080 --> 0:01:21.679 I wasn't even there. She's gonna be fine. It's gonna 0:01:21.720 --> 0:01:23.480 be me. And that's the thing that the teacher said 0:01:23.480 --> 0:01:26.319 to Mr. Dora was like, the kids are fine, it's 0:01:26.360 --> 0:01:30.160 the parents. And I'm like, because I again like and 0:01:30.400 --> 0:01:34.759 I won't let her see me cry, but I will 0:01:34.800 --> 0:01:37.920 definitely leave and cry. But I'm filling my day tomorrow 0:01:37.920 --> 0:01:41.080 with like a lot of stuff to keep me like occupied. Good. Yeah, 0:01:41.240 --> 0:01:43.560 Like I have a workout right afterwards, and then I'm 0:01:43.600 --> 0:01:45.040 hanging out and Sarah. By the way, I have to 0:01:45.080 --> 0:01:47.080 talk about Sarah because she's coming over to work out too, 0:01:47.120 --> 0:01:51.640 and she has oh my god, so okay, so John, 0:01:51.720 --> 0:01:54.440 you were sick, but she like, just to catch you 0:01:54.520 --> 0:01:56.880 up from last week. She's been in this relationship for 0:01:56.880 --> 0:02:02.560 six years and she basically it's a time. It's time now, 0:02:02.800 --> 0:02:04.880 you know. It's like it's been six years, like either 0:02:05.200 --> 0:02:07.280 crap or get off the pot, you know what I mean. 0:02:07.360 --> 0:02:09.800 So she wants either an engagement ring or moving on 0:02:10.320 --> 0:02:12.320 because she feels like she's being held back. And Amy 0:02:12.440 --> 0:02:13.480 was like, well, why do you need the ring? And 0:02:13.480 --> 0:02:15.520 she's like, this is just who I am. Like I 0:02:15.880 --> 0:02:17.720 she's like me where it's like I just I do 0:02:17.840 --> 0:02:20.839 want a piece of paper. Thought about it a lot too, 0:02:20.880 --> 0:02:24.840 because she wants what she wants and guess what, great, 0:02:25.200 --> 0:02:27.680 but she people need it. Yeah, and that's the thing, like, 0:02:27.720 --> 0:02:29.960 and she's because like they he wants kids, they want 0:02:30.000 --> 0:02:32.040 to have kids. But at the same time, it's like 0:02:32.600 --> 0:02:35.000 she wants it in the order. She's old school, she's 0:02:35.000 --> 0:02:38.440 from Texas. Like that's just how that that's what she wants. 0:02:38.480 --> 0:02:40.079 That's you know, and her she's very close to their 0:02:40.160 --> 0:02:42.960 dad and all like all that stuff. So she was like, Okay, 0:02:42.960 --> 0:02:44.639 I think because she's coming with me the I Heart 0:02:44.720 --> 0:02:47.760 Radio Festival in September, and she's like, I think I'm 0:02:47.760 --> 0:02:50.280 gonna do it, like either before that weekend or after 0:02:50.280 --> 0:02:51.840 that weekend and just be like, look if it's not 0:02:51.919 --> 0:02:54.200 this year, like I'm I want you to know I 0:02:54.240 --> 0:02:58.120 am dead serious, Like I'm dead serious. And then she's 0:02:58.120 --> 0:02:59.600 like and I won't. I was okay, but then you 0:02:59.639 --> 0:03:02.160 can bring it up again, because if you keep bringing 0:03:02.160 --> 0:03:04.120 it up, he might be like, fine, here's your Ethan ring, 0:03:04.240 --> 0:03:08.840 you know what I mean, like one exactly so, and 0:03:08.880 --> 0:03:10.480 I was like, why don't you just listen to the 0:03:10.520 --> 0:03:15.120 podcast together and you know, talk about it afterwards. And 0:03:15.320 --> 0:03:17.120 she texted me she was in New York and she's like, 0:03:17.120 --> 0:03:20.000 I couldn't wait till the podcast came out. She's like yeah. 0:03:20.040 --> 0:03:22.200 She she goes, I sat him down, and she goes, tied, 0:03:22.240 --> 0:03:24.680 I want you to know I am dead serious about 0:03:25.040 --> 0:03:27.280 I will leave, and he goes, trust me, Sarah. She was, 0:03:27.320 --> 0:03:30.399 it is a ring this year? Yeah, she goes, if 0:03:30.400 --> 0:03:32.840 it's if it's not a ring this year, I'm gone 0:03:33.120 --> 0:03:35.800 and he goes, trust me, Sarah, I know, I got it, okay, 0:03:36.160 --> 0:03:39.040 And I was like, okay, now no more, no more, 0:03:39.560 --> 0:03:41.600 I go, no more, and now let's start planning it with. 0:03:43.920 --> 0:03:45.880 I don't think he has the ring, but I think 0:03:45.920 --> 0:03:48.320 he knows how serious she is and he's an idiot 0:03:48.320 --> 0:03:51.840 if he doesn't do it. Because now she said, what 0:03:52.040 --> 0:03:55.000 you know it's this year or no? He said, I 0:03:55.080 --> 0:03:58.800 hear you. I trust me, Sarah, I get it. I know. Yeah. 0:03:58.840 --> 0:04:00.280 And so I was like, okay, Sarah, and I was like, 0:04:00.320 --> 0:04:02.640 but you have to. I don't care if it's December 0:04:02.720 --> 0:04:07.040 thirty one, Do not say one word about it again, 0:04:07.040 --> 0:04:10.120 because you will ruin this for yourself. She'll totally ruin it. 0:04:10.240 --> 0:04:12.680 So I just okay, now she knows, and I was like, 0:04:12.720 --> 0:04:14.400 now let's play a wedding because she wants to like 0:04:14.600 --> 0:04:16.920 get married next year. So I was like, let's get 0:04:16.960 --> 0:04:19.320 on it. Come on. So she's like, I don't know where. 0:04:19.360 --> 0:04:20.520 I don't know if I want to be inside, so 0:04:20.720 --> 0:04:23.520 we'll see. And when you say that when she says 0:04:23.720 --> 0:04:26.440 this year, doesn't mean just she wants to be engaged 0:04:27.120 --> 0:04:29.839 by the end of this year. By the end of 0:04:29.880 --> 0:04:32.800 the end of this year. But it's August, I know. 0:04:34.720 --> 0:04:37.440 But you can get a ring turned around fast, you can. 0:04:37.720 --> 0:04:40.320 My only thing is so she I think she wants 0:04:40.360 --> 0:04:42.320 it done on her birthday, and my fear is that 0:04:42.360 --> 0:04:44.680 if it's not done on her birthday, she's going to 0:04:44.760 --> 0:04:47.280 get upset and then who knows, maybe maybe he's doing 0:04:47.320 --> 0:04:48.760 it on New Year's eat. So that so I was like, 0:04:48.960 --> 0:04:52.320 just give him, like you said, until January one. I 0:04:52.360 --> 0:04:59.880 just feel like, and then I love it so uncome. 0:05:00.480 --> 0:05:03.280 I like the expectation and then it's going to be 0:05:03.320 --> 0:05:06.359 like up and down and up and down. But but 0:05:06.360 --> 0:05:07.719 but this is what I told her. I was like, 0:05:07.800 --> 0:05:10.400 don't don't put that on you. You've said it, and 0:05:10.480 --> 0:05:13.520 now live for the next because you've already lived six 0:05:13.600 --> 0:05:15.680 years of when is it going to be? So now 0:05:15.720 --> 0:05:17.240 you have a couple of months. Enjoyed his next couple 0:05:17.240 --> 0:05:19.320 of months because hopefully it will be coming time. If 0:05:19.360 --> 0:05:21.880 you're listening to this, you should go get the ring now. 0:05:22.279 --> 0:05:26.400 Don't make her way. And she wants three diamonds. He's 0:05:26.440 --> 0:05:32.039 also listening, like, let's get really specific. She's got a 0:05:32.080 --> 0:05:33.919 Pinterest board if you want to see it, like she 0:05:33.920 --> 0:05:38.000 showed me and it's beautiful a little like it's anxious. Well, 0:05:38.240 --> 0:05:40.359 I feel anxious for her because she's going to be 0:05:40.440 --> 0:05:44.200 waiting and waiting and waiting, and she's already waited six years. 0:05:44.320 --> 0:05:48.160 But still but now she's voiced, and so what's another 0:05:48.200 --> 0:05:50.560 three months? Like she needs like a sedative, like I 0:05:50.600 --> 0:05:55.640 can't I have some for her? She needs just Friday, 0:05:55.760 --> 0:05:57.360 but he needs to wait though, it needs to hold 0:05:57.360 --> 0:05:59.440 off a second until I think, I hope he does 0:05:59.480 --> 0:06:01.800 it her under that you would love her. I'm gonna 0:06:01.800 --> 0:06:06.800 bring her in November immediately. No, it's a November. It 0:06:06.800 --> 0:06:10.479 needs to be in November on the show. Oh my god, No, 0:06:10.839 --> 0:06:13.400 she would not be happy about that. There's there's one 0:06:13.400 --> 0:06:15.480 thing about Sarah's she wants it to be like I 0:06:15.480 --> 0:06:17.920 think she would want it to be like you know, 0:06:18.960 --> 0:06:25.520 beautiful romantic and radio studio on air with Ryan. We 0:06:25.600 --> 0:06:29.000 can't we drink it. I can get some orchids and 0:06:30.760 --> 0:06:33.080 when it happens though, we'll have Taie and Sarah both 0:06:33.120 --> 0:06:41.640 on the show. Alright. 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Emily, 0:07:56.680 --> 0:08:01.640 Hey girl, it's Janna Jen and Amy. Hi, Jana Jin 0:08:01.720 --> 0:08:05.200 and Amy? Are you are you doing? I'm great. I'm 0:08:05.240 --> 0:08:08.800 at work. I can't believe you're a lawyer. Wait wait 0:08:08.840 --> 0:08:11.040 what kind of law do you practice? Are you at 0:08:11.080 --> 0:08:15.000 like lawyer work or are you at like housewives work? No? No, no, 0:08:15.040 --> 0:08:18.520 I'm at lawyer work. Lawyer work office right now, like 0:08:18.680 --> 0:08:22.280 you know, writing that the emails to opposing counsel. So god, 0:08:22.400 --> 0:08:24.320 my god, wait, what could a law do you practice? 0:08:25.440 --> 0:08:34.280 I do copyright? So photographers mostly so are they do? 0:08:34.320 --> 0:08:37.000 They film you when you're in the like doing your 0:08:37.080 --> 0:08:40.600 lawyer work. They do? And it's funny because I try 0:08:40.600 --> 0:08:43.000 to warn them. I'm like, it's not exciting. Like mostly 0:08:43.040 --> 0:08:46.960 we like, you know, rapping emails and letters and stuff 0:08:47.000 --> 0:08:49.680 and you know, so what they did they filmed a 0:08:49.679 --> 0:08:53.720 few times. Yeah, but the mean emails sound fun. Yes, 0:08:53.800 --> 0:08:55.520 I know, right, I wish I could share those kind 0:08:55.520 --> 0:08:58.480 of question actually about copyright since you're a lawyer. So 0:08:59.000 --> 0:09:03.000 if I was to post a photo of like wire 0:09:03.080 --> 0:09:05.240 you know, wire image, someone that took a photo of 0:09:05.280 --> 0:09:07.680 me and then I put it on my Instagram, cannot 0:09:07.760 --> 0:09:12.959 photographer then come after me because I posted their photo? Um, 0:09:13.160 --> 0:09:15.800 they can if they own a copyright to it. But 0:09:15.920 --> 0:09:19.040 it's me though, I'm like, then they should, you know 0:09:19.080 --> 0:09:23.000 what I mean? Like they right, like you own me? 0:09:23.200 --> 0:09:25.760 It's my face? Like this is because they took a picture. 0:09:26.000 --> 0:09:27.800 I don't know. I've always like wanted that because someone 0:09:27.840 --> 0:09:29.079 said to me, you need to take that down and 0:09:29.080 --> 0:09:30.640 I was like, you need to shut up. But like 0:09:31.559 --> 0:09:33.600 like but then I was like, wait, like am I 0:09:33.640 --> 0:09:37.680 in there doesn't want pictures? But well I know, but 0:09:37.720 --> 0:09:39.160 I was just like, but how do they get to 0:09:39.160 --> 0:09:42.280 own that when it's like that's face? Because I mean 0:09:42.320 --> 0:09:43.920 I want to use that photo of you, I have 0:09:44.040 --> 0:09:47.280 to pay for it. But I don't understand that. Well 0:09:47.320 --> 0:09:51.839 Emily help. I you know, now I'm all confused. I 0:09:51.840 --> 0:09:54.480 don't even know if I practiced copy right law anymore. No, 0:09:54.600 --> 0:09:57.120 I'm just kidding. Um, well it whoever owns the end 0:09:57.120 --> 0:09:59.040 of image. So if they take a picture of you 0:09:59.160 --> 0:10:02.120 and you sign a released giving them permission that you 0:10:02.320 --> 0:10:04.280 don't sign a release for wire image. I guess when 0:10:04.320 --> 0:10:07.800 you technically step on a red carpet, you're giving I 0:10:07.840 --> 0:10:11.040 guess if you're if you're in public and you're just 0:10:11.120 --> 0:10:13.920 allowing yourself to be photographed, you're giving permission for them 0:10:13.920 --> 0:10:16.920 to own the photograph. And then if they copyright that photograph, 0:10:17.000 --> 0:10:20.160 then they own that's their work. So it's their creat 0:10:20.200 --> 0:10:23.559 but it's my face. My my parents created the face 0:10:26.360 --> 0:10:29.440 it is. I can use that next time, then I 0:10:29.520 --> 0:10:31.840 own my face. Yeah, you know what, I hope this 0:10:31.880 --> 0:10:33.440 issue comes up for me because I'm going to use 0:10:33.480 --> 0:10:35.760 that in one of my arguments. Yeah, exactly, she owns 0:10:35.760 --> 0:10:37.679 her face. They didn't. They didn't make that like her 0:10:37.720 --> 0:10:40.600 parents made that. You're welcome for the lawyer the lawyer 0:10:40.679 --> 0:10:44.000 chat is it as soon as you step into public property, 0:10:45.160 --> 0:10:47.560 it's open game. Because she's a public figure. It's like 0:10:47.600 --> 0:10:52.800 a paparazzi shooting you right now, me, I'm not a figure. 0:10:55.800 --> 0:10:58.480 You're totally you know what I did yesterday? There was 0:10:58.520 --> 0:11:01.520 a girl walk in front of me and I couldn't 0:11:01.559 --> 0:11:04.199 believe what she had on because it was a family 0:11:04.200 --> 0:11:06.840 oriented picture. I took a picture and sent it to 0:11:06.920 --> 0:11:10.400 my sister because we do list all the time. Because 0:11:11.559 --> 0:11:13.559 so do you own it? Just Emily? Does she own 0:11:13.640 --> 0:11:19.839 that photo now? Of like her? Like paparazzaying another person? Okay, 0:11:20.080 --> 0:11:23.000 your word speaking of people being awful and mean? Like Jen, 0:11:23.200 --> 0:11:25.080 how do you like being on the Housewive? I know, 0:11:26.000 --> 0:11:28.720 Oh my gosh, I tell you. I mean I knew 0:11:28.720 --> 0:11:31.760 going in through it because you're new right to the show. Yeah, 0:11:31.960 --> 0:11:33.880 this was my first year, So I mean, I'm not 0:11:33.960 --> 0:11:35.800 I'm not done. Like I knew what I'm setting myself 0:11:35.880 --> 0:11:37.960 up for. But I tell you, even though you know 0:11:38.640 --> 0:11:41.280 and you're prepared for it, you don't know if you're 0:11:41.320 --> 0:11:43.520 not prepared for it, because people will come after you 0:11:43.600 --> 0:11:45.880 for things that you're like, I didn't even know you 0:11:45.880 --> 0:11:48.280 could have even picked up on something like that, right 0:11:48.600 --> 0:11:52.320 my my girlfriend, Um, she said, do you know Lydia 0:11:52.440 --> 0:11:55.319 She used to be on the Housewives of Orange County. 0:11:55.520 --> 0:11:58.560 I don't know her. I actually know her mom, Judy Duty, 0:11:58.559 --> 0:12:01.080 lives next door to my in law, so I sent Juty. 0:12:01.760 --> 0:12:04.000 Well she was just like I mean she it kind 0:12:04.000 --> 0:12:06.600 of seems like you were It's like you're so sweet, 0:12:06.640 --> 0:12:09.360 and she was like, I can't handle like just people 0:12:09.440 --> 0:12:11.440 like constantly like picking on you, Like how do you 0:12:11.480 --> 0:12:14.199 deal with that? Like I would lose my crap. I 0:12:14.360 --> 0:12:17.480 you know, it's hard, especially when it's like about my husband, 0:12:17.480 --> 0:12:19.760 because my husband was like, didn't even really sign up 0:12:19.760 --> 0:12:21.600 for this, like I did it and then I drug 0:12:21.679 --> 0:12:24.200 him along and then the poor guy he's like, you know, 0:12:24.200 --> 0:12:30.400 everybody's like her husband's gay, her husband's ugly. I feel 0:12:30.480 --> 0:12:37.160 so badly for him because he you know, kidding, but 0:12:37.200 --> 0:12:41.040 I mean that's it. But that sucks like someone like 0:12:41.200 --> 0:12:43.120 being some in and again like he didn't sign up 0:12:43.160 --> 0:12:45.560 for it, So is it something? Where is that causing 0:12:45.559 --> 0:12:48.559 tension in y'all's marriage? Because he didn't want you that 0:12:48.720 --> 0:12:51.320 so I worried about that. That was another thing. My 0:12:51.400 --> 0:12:53.560 husband wasn't all that keen on me being on the 0:12:53.559 --> 0:12:59.800 show because everybody gets divorced, right, I mean yeah exactly. 0:13:00.080 --> 0:13:03.480 So you know, no mug shots, no divorce, and so 0:13:03.559 --> 0:13:06.480 we actually wouldn't therapy prior to me going on the show, 0:13:06.520 --> 0:13:09.520 and during the show, just kind of like stay healthy, 0:13:09.640 --> 0:13:12.280 you know, stay on the same page, have a third 0:13:12.480 --> 0:13:15.200 party kind of mediating between the two of us, and 0:13:15.480 --> 0:13:21.360 you know, it's it's good. I mean, yeah, I mean 0:13:21.360 --> 0:13:24.000 there were definitely ups and downs during the filming process. 0:13:24.040 --> 0:13:26.000 I mean there were times when he was like, screw this, 0:13:26.080 --> 0:13:28.160 I'm never filming again, and then there were other times 0:13:28.160 --> 0:13:31.920 where he was fine. But yeah, it's it's not easy. 0:13:32.040 --> 0:13:35.000 Like you you don't realize how much it really affects, 0:13:35.280 --> 0:13:40.160 you know, your whole life. How did you. I think 0:13:40.440 --> 0:13:42.760 what happened was I knew Tamar from a few years back. 0:13:42.840 --> 0:13:45.520 I actually helped my sister in law and I do 0:13:45.640 --> 0:13:47.600 party planning kind of on the side of the hobby, 0:13:47.679 --> 0:13:49.920 and we planned a baby shower for her when her 0:13:49.920 --> 0:13:52.800 granddaughter was born, and I got to know her through 0:13:52.840 --> 0:13:56.520 that process. And then a couple of years ago, UM 0:13:56.720 --> 0:13:59.160 casting people had to reach out to me and said, 0:13:59.160 --> 0:14:01.959 Tamar recommend to do and so I actually had auditions 0:14:02.000 --> 0:14:06.040 two years ago, I believe, and then didn't hear anything 0:14:06.080 --> 0:14:08.120 from them for a couple of years, and then this year, 0:14:08.360 --> 0:14:11.360 just got an email from someone at Bravo's thing. You know, 0:14:11.360 --> 0:14:12.920 we want to audition you again. We think it would 0:14:12.920 --> 0:14:15.120 be great for the show. And then just went from there, 0:14:15.280 --> 0:14:18.640 just went through the whole process. Yeah, what has been 0:14:18.800 --> 0:14:22.200 the most disappointing, like in a person at the show 0:14:22.520 --> 0:14:25.280 that you thought you were friends with. Well, you know, 0:14:25.320 --> 0:14:27.320 I'll tell you what's disappointing is I feel like I 0:14:27.400 --> 0:14:29.920 was really naive going into it because I'm really a 0:14:29.960 --> 0:14:32.920 girl girl, Like I have a ton of girlfriends and 0:14:33.040 --> 0:14:36.640 so I've always been able to easily make friends and 0:14:36.720 --> 0:14:38.600 hang out with girls and have a good time. And 0:14:38.640 --> 0:14:41.000 I really thought going into it that people would like 0:14:41.120 --> 0:14:46.400 me right right, so and when people don't, I know, 0:14:46.480 --> 0:14:49.400 and that's to me. And then like then why why 0:14:49.400 --> 0:14:51.080 did you say yes? Because I would think that you 0:14:51.120 --> 0:14:52.720 would like look at the drama on the show and 0:14:52.800 --> 0:14:54.360 be like, I don't even want to be involved in 0:14:54.400 --> 0:14:57.400 that because you are such a girl's girl. Yeah, you know, 0:14:57.440 --> 0:15:00.680 because I really didn't. Honestly, I hadn't even watched the 0:15:00.680 --> 0:15:03.080 show since like two thousand and thirteen. I hadn't seen 0:15:03.120 --> 0:15:07.400 any episode, but I knew, like I I obviously follow 0:15:07.480 --> 0:15:09.840 like you know, some Houselos Instagram accounts and things like that, 0:15:09.920 --> 0:15:12.000 so I knew kind of what was going on and that, 0:15:12.360 --> 0:15:14.280 you know, people not getting along, and I don't know, 0:15:14.320 --> 0:15:16.320 I guess I was just I just had so high 0:15:16.320 --> 0:15:18.640 hope that, like I was, you know, you're going to change, 0:15:19.000 --> 0:15:22.240 like you're going to change the women to you. Yeah, 0:15:22.240 --> 0:15:24.160 but they was. I figured there would be drama, Like 0:15:24.200 --> 0:15:26.120 I knew that, but I thought it would be like 0:15:26.200 --> 0:15:28.840 more naturally, like we all were friends, and then drama 0:15:28.880 --> 0:15:31.600 arose out of that. I didn't realize that people would 0:15:31.600 --> 0:15:34.680 just be so resistant to like having anything to do 0:15:34.720 --> 0:15:37.240 with you. I'm sorry, It's like, how do you like? 0:15:37.480 --> 0:15:40.280 Because I get the hard I mean, it hurts me 0:15:40.320 --> 0:15:42.520 when I read comments about people that don't like me. 0:15:42.560 --> 0:15:43.960 So you're getting it not only in the show, but 0:15:44.000 --> 0:15:46.680 I'm sure you're if you read comments online like people 0:15:46.760 --> 0:15:48.840 aren't nice, you know, So if you're getting it from 0:15:48.880 --> 0:15:51.080 like those angles, it's like, how how are you? Like? 0:15:53.560 --> 0:15:56.200 It's it's hard. There are days when like I have cried, 0:15:56.280 --> 0:15:57.960 I've cried and been like what the hell was I doing? 0:15:58.000 --> 0:16:00.600 You know? But you know they're I have lots of 0:16:00.880 --> 0:16:03.640 really positive comments to where people reached out to me 0:16:03.680 --> 0:16:07.440 directly and say thank you so much for being Um, 0:16:07.480 --> 0:16:10.360 just like a loss of fresh air, like just acting 0:16:10.400 --> 0:16:12.520 like you know, like not really wanting to work out, 0:16:12.840 --> 0:16:15.960 like not having you know, like these you know have 0:16:16.040 --> 0:16:18.480 to be a plaze to and be perfect in Orange 0:16:18.520 --> 0:16:22.560 County and you know, talking about your fertility struggle and 0:16:22.800 --> 0:16:26.200 you know, just being when real and your sister carried 0:16:26.200 --> 0:16:31.040 your babies. Yes, all three. Wow, what a selfless thing 0:16:31.200 --> 0:16:36.560 to do. That's amazing. You have three s I have three. 0:16:36.680 --> 0:16:39.080 So I have two stepdaughters. So my husband has a 0:16:39.080 --> 0:16:41.760 seventeen year old with twelve year old with his first wife, 0:16:41.800 --> 0:16:44.600 and then he and I had three little ones together. 0:16:44.800 --> 0:16:47.600 My daughter is five and then twin boys that are three. 0:16:47.800 --> 0:16:51.080 So when did when did you how long you've been 0:16:51.080 --> 0:16:54.840 married to your now husband most ten years almost, and 0:16:54.880 --> 0:16:58.240 then how long we married to your last husband? Um, 0:16:58.640 --> 0:17:02.680 that was five years. It was maybe we lived together 0:17:02.800 --> 0:17:05.760 six months out of the five years. Actually, So like 0:17:05.840 --> 0:17:08.240 my first marriage, I was young and he was in 0:17:08.280 --> 0:17:10.280 the military, and I think out of the five years 0:17:10.280 --> 0:17:12.640 that we were actually married, I think we only lived 0:17:12.640 --> 0:17:15.000 together or SMaL other maybe six months out of the 0:17:15.000 --> 0:17:18.840 whole five years. Do you think that's what kind of 0:17:18.960 --> 0:17:23.000 caused the break in your marriage? Did what called up? 0:17:23.080 --> 0:17:25.000 Do you think like the distance and not being together 0:17:25.040 --> 0:17:27.679 is that will cause the break definitely? And like as 0:17:27.720 --> 0:17:29.800 soon as we we got married, I was like twenty six, 0:17:29.880 --> 0:17:33.200 and then I went to law school and he um, 0:17:33.320 --> 0:17:35.600 he was in I don't know, he was stationed everywhere 0:17:35.840 --> 0:17:38.640 and it just you know, it just didn't work out. 0:17:38.720 --> 0:17:40.960 I mean there's no animositar or anything. I actually don't 0:17:41.000 --> 0:17:44.640 even remember being married. But I always forget to other people, 0:17:44.680 --> 0:17:48.800 how is how is this? How is the step kids? Mom? 0:17:48.880 --> 0:17:54.720 I always like to know at that was a very 0:17:54.840 --> 0:18:00.080 very difficult and tumultuous relationship four years until May the 0:18:00.160 --> 0:18:04.280 six months ago, because you're on the show. I I 0:18:04.320 --> 0:18:06.600 don't know what burden. I have no idea. I think 0:18:06.720 --> 0:18:09.520 really what happened is my twelve year old stepdaughter is 0:18:09.760 --> 0:18:13.359 really kind of you know, having issues with her mom, 0:18:13.640 --> 0:18:16.960 and so she's been telling my husband a lot of things. 0:18:17.320 --> 0:18:19.639 And then I think her mom realized that like, in 0:18:19.720 --> 0:18:22.840 order to parent these teenage girls, like they need to 0:18:22.840 --> 0:18:27.040 stick together, like she you know, being combative with him 0:18:27.040 --> 0:18:30.119 and not telling him things and you know, trying to 0:18:30.200 --> 0:18:32.399 keep him out of things. It's not working. Is it 0:18:32.440 --> 0:18:38.879 off limits for the kids on the show. No, you 0:18:38.920 --> 0:18:41.440 know what, she actually she let them film a little bit, 0:18:41.440 --> 0:18:43.639 and then she didn't let them film, and then towards 0:18:43.680 --> 0:18:45.560 the end she let them film again. But they're so 0:18:45.600 --> 0:18:48.600 they're it's very rare. It's probably jealousy too. I would 0:18:48.600 --> 0:18:51.439 think I would be like, yeah, if Michaelina got divorced 0:18:51.480 --> 0:18:53.080 and he was dating some of the cow's wife girl 0:18:53.200 --> 0:18:55.480 and and you know, I would be like, I would 0:18:55.480 --> 0:18:57.119 just be jealous. So don't take it as like she 0:18:57.160 --> 0:18:58.880 doesn't like you. I mean, she might not like you, 0:18:59.119 --> 0:19:03.680 but but I mean, like, don't take it. I mean, yeah, 0:19:03.680 --> 0:19:06.040 I mean that's got to be hard on like both 0:19:06.080 --> 0:19:11.120 sides for sure. Exactly. I just wanted to do whatever 0:19:11.520 --> 0:19:13.639 the kids wanted to do, Like, I just wanted them 0:19:13.840 --> 0:19:18.119 not feel left out because my kids were filming. Very true. 0:19:18.280 --> 0:19:21.240 How are all of the kids adjusting to it? Because 0:19:21.240 --> 0:19:23.840 it has it affected them at school? Has it the 0:19:23.880 --> 0:19:26.159 teens at least? Well? No, because I don't know. I 0:19:26.440 --> 0:19:28.920 mean I need to ask my two older girls. They're 0:19:28.960 --> 0:19:31.360 they're actually in Europe with my mother in law took 0:19:31.359 --> 0:19:34.679 them to Europe, so they're out doing European things so, 0:19:36.520 --> 0:19:38.920 and I mean, hey, I feel like at their age two, 0:19:38.960 --> 0:19:41.440 I mean they're able to know, especially with Instagram and 0:19:41.440 --> 0:19:44.360 stuff and how influencing has kind of taken over. I mean, 0:19:44.400 --> 0:19:46.480 it's a great if they if they want to be 0:19:46.520 --> 0:19:47.920 in that world at all. I mean, it's a great 0:19:47.960 --> 0:19:51.000 kind of start for to have like such a platform, 0:19:51.119 --> 0:19:53.960 you know, right. I just I My husband and I 0:19:53.960 --> 0:19:56.840 have both had talks with the older girls about not 0:19:57.280 --> 0:19:59.639 taking things personally if they read things about me or 0:19:59.680 --> 0:20:02.600 about him, and just realizing that, you know, people aren't 0:20:02.680 --> 0:20:06.159 kind and not kind of at all. I was just 0:20:06.280 --> 0:20:08.840 I was just texting. Yeah, I was just texting with Amy, 0:20:08.840 --> 0:20:11.439 our producer. Last night. I had this one lady on 0:20:11.480 --> 0:20:14.240 the show and then I found out I had this 0:20:14.280 --> 0:20:17.320 interview with us Weekly, and um, I was just talking 0:20:17.359 --> 0:20:19.200 about how I want to have sex more because I'm 0:20:19.200 --> 0:20:22.120 pregnant and my hormones and stuff, and you know, she 0:20:22.200 --> 0:20:25.400 was she basically called me an idiot and said I'm 0:20:25.400 --> 0:20:28.480 disrespecting my husband. And I'm like, oh my god, this 0:20:28.520 --> 0:20:31.720 is the same girl that was like on on our show. 0:20:31.880 --> 0:20:33.480 And I'm like, Amy, can you believe this? It's because 0:20:33.520 --> 0:20:36.080