1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:03,000 Speaker 1: Live from our nation's cale. This budget thing is going 2 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:05,920 Speaker 1: to do nothing spaceports. I still think it's interesting President 3 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:10,160 Speaker 1: Trump not playing his cards yet. Headlines Policy and Politics colliding, 4 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:15,120 Speaker 1: Floomberg Sound On, the Insiders, the influencers, the insides. I 5 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:17,800 Speaker 1: would rather see a congressional solution. It's part of my DNA. 6 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 1: The Senate map in looks a lot different than it 7 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 1: looked in. You really have a divide within Team Trump. 8 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:26,480 Speaker 1: The present has to do exactly what people send him 9 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 1: here to do, which is to get it done. This 10 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 1: is Bloomberg Sound On with Kevin Shirley on Bloomberg and 11 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 1: one oh five point seven f m h D two. 12 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:40,159 Speaker 1: Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi says that she is 13 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 1: moving forward with the impeachment. The House will draft articles 14 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 1: of impeachment. I was on Capitol Hill virtually all morning. 15 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 1: That plus Treasury Secretary Stephen Manusian testifying before the House 16 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 1: Financial Services Committee, will dive into the weeds to hear 17 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 1: what he has to say. I asked him point blank 18 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 1: about the US China trade talk. I'll give you his 19 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 1: answer as well. And the latest from the campaign trail. 20 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:09,840 Speaker 1: Two friends of the Program here today, Jack Kingston's here, 21 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:14,040 Speaker 1: former Georgia congressman, Republican. And it's so hard to explain 22 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 1: this to our listeners, but we're in this glass on clave, 23 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:19,959 Speaker 1: on cave whatever the word is, uh, down in city 24 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 1: Center and our Washington Bureau, and every time around this 25 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 1: when we start the show, there are these birds that 26 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:29,040 Speaker 1: swoop in between the glass buildings down here, and every 27 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 1: guest is distracted by them. And I'm always like, yeah, no, 28 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:34,760 Speaker 1: it's normal, it's fine. We're not in an Alfred Hitchcock movie. 29 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:37,039 Speaker 1: It's gonna be okay. And and Jack and I were 30 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 1: having that exchange right when we came back on the air, 31 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 1: So if that's confusing to our listeners, I apologize, But 32 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 1: we get swarm by birds. Actually, I wanted to show 33 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 1: you my zoological proudness and point out that that bird 34 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 1: pattern is called a mirror ration. I can't pronounce it, 35 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 1: but I do know that you and the interesting thing 36 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 1: amongst us ornithologists this and if that's the right word, 37 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 1: we have no idea why they do that. Are you 38 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 1: really are you being funnier? No? I know that that's well, 39 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 1: I just you know, amateur hiker, amateur try to learn things. 40 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 1: Adrian right now? Is it because of global warming? Let's 41 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 1: talk about global warming, kid, I'm sorry, you set me 42 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:26,679 Speaker 1: right up for it. Let's talk about impeachment. Because I 43 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 1: was up on Capitol Hill today Adrian and Speaker of 44 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 1: the House Nancy Pelosi saying that they're going to be 45 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 1: drafting articles of impeachment. Really, no surprise, no market movement 46 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:38,960 Speaker 1: by the end of the calendar year. I was joking 47 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 1: with a colleague up on the hill. It's almost like 48 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 1: we were covering the tax plan, where they say there's 49 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 1: gonna be a deal. There's not going to be a deal. 50 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 1: It's gonna be delayed, delayed. No, it's not going to 51 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 1: be delayed. We started this saying it would happen by 52 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:52,800 Speaker 1: the end of the year, then everyone said it might not, 53 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:55,519 Speaker 1: and now it's happening by the end of the year. 54 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:58,679 Speaker 1: Thank god for Speaker Pelosi sticking to you know what. 55 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 1: I don't think she really can minted to making at 56 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:01,960 Speaker 1: the end of the year, but that was certainly a 57 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 1: goal that she made clear, and we're all very happy 58 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 1: about that, especially those of us who are involved in 59 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 1: and I want to see um, I think a lot 60 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 1: of us want to see this be put away and 61 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 1: move on so that our candidates and the Democratic primary 62 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:17,519 Speaker 1: can get a lot of oxygen on TV and whatnot. Um. 63 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 1: But look, she did what she um had planned to do. 64 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 1: She instructed her committee chairs of the committees that have 65 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 1: jurisdiction over elements of impeachment to you know, to draft 66 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 1: up the impeachment inquiry or are the proceeding and go forward. 67 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 1: So UM, anybody who bought a non refundable flight home 68 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 1: holidays in Washington, d C. Might want to try to 69 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 1: cancel their ticket and get a because they're so good 70 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 1: about that exactly. You can just you can do it 71 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 1: on the app. So listen. So we're gonna talk about 72 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 1: there are a bunch of endorsements today. Just see this, 73 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:55,559 Speaker 1: John Kerry for Biden. You've got Reggie Love, Linda Douglas, 74 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 1: our friend Linda Douglas endorsing Mayor. Pete will dive into that, 75 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 1: but let's stick with impeachment. And and Jack, I want 76 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 1: to play for you what Speaker of the House Nancy 77 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 1: Pelosi said at that particular particular press conference that we're 78 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 1: talking about here. Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi sinks 79 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 1: that she had no choice but to act the president 80 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 1: leads us no choice but to act because he is 81 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 1: trying to corrupt once again the election for his own benefit. 82 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 1: And then she goes on. This was an exchange that 83 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 1: really captured the attention of the press corps. But also 84 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:32,919 Speaker 1: this was the viral moment of it, and all the 85 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:36,160 Speaker 1: networks carried her announcement. But there was this exchange where 86 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 1: she was walking out. Did you see this, Jack, She 87 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 1: was walking out of the press conference, and a reporter, 88 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 1: I don't know who the reporter was, got it, got it, 89 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 1: and so asked thank you. By the way, I was 90 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:52,279 Speaker 1: trying to figure that out for the past two hours, 91 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 1: and and asked her, do you hate the President of 92 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 1: the United States? Take a listen to Speaker Pelosi's response. 93 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:03,840 Speaker 1: This is about the Constitution of the United States and 94 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:07,039 Speaker 1: the facts that leads to the president's violation of zoth 95 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 1: of office. And as a Catholic, I resent you're using 96 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 1: the work hate in a sentence that addresses me. I 97 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:16,599 Speaker 1: don't hate anyone. I was raised in a way that 98 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:19,719 Speaker 1: is full heart, full of love, and always prayed for 99 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 1: the president, and I still pray for the president. I 100 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 1: prayed for the president all the time. Jack Well, I 101 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:30,159 Speaker 1: think she gave a good answer to a very direct question. 102 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:32,479 Speaker 1: I would say that there are those in her party 103 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:34,839 Speaker 1: who truly do hate the president, or if they don't, 104 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:37,159 Speaker 1: they certainly I'd hate to see what they do if 105 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 1: they do hate somebody. I want to say this about 106 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:42,359 Speaker 1: my friend Adrian. We've been on many shows together. She's 107 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 1: a great Democrat. I'm looking forward to her saying who 108 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 1: she's endorsing. But I am too. But but the other 109 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 1: thing I I wanted to say, also at the bipartisan spirit, 110 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:55,839 Speaker 1: we two and our party are very happy because we 111 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:59,040 Speaker 1: think the Democrats are have a car pointed towards the 112 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 1: cliff and Nancy Pelosi just put her foot on the accelerator. 113 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 1: Why well, UM, I can say this talking to a 114 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:08,919 Speaker 1: number of members. Um, I've been on the hill a 115 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:12,040 Speaker 1: whole bunch of this week. I don't think the American 116 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:15,119 Speaker 1: people are really focused on this at all. Most people 117 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:17,920 Speaker 1: will say when they go home, nobody's particularly outrage one 118 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 1: way or the other. Um. And as a consequence, I 119 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 1: think a whole bunch of things aren't getting done, and 120 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:26,359 Speaker 1: the Democrats are going to be held accountable to that 121 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:30,039 Speaker 1: when they're out of here. Can I just I would 122 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 1: be disappointed if you did not see this is the 123 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:34,719 Speaker 1: part of my job that I love. I just sit back. 124 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 1: I've got two professionals handled take it over, go ahead, 125 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 1: and we we have a very cordial, friendly, you know, relationship. 126 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 1: We're just on different size of the isisland. No, but Congressman, 127 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 1: you know this. The House has passed over four hundred 128 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:52,360 Speaker 1: bills Leader Pelosi's House symbolic message bills that have been 129 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 1: sitting in Mitch McConnell's graveyard, raised from Clarence mccaskll Mitch 130 00:06:57,160 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 1: McCall's graveyard, that are just sitting there that are not 131 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 1: going anywhere. Let me jump in prescription drugs, addressing the healthcare, 132 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 1: high healthcare, I think, and I want to ask you 133 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 1: about USMC because the both of your points there does 134 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 1: seem to be and listen, I'll call it like I 135 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 1: see it. There are areas that are moving ahead. U 136 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 1: S m c A. Every Democrat that I talked with 137 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 1: from the suburbs they want to see that get done. 138 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 1: So we played that exchange with Speaker Pelosi in which 139 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 1: she draws on her face and Jack it was drew 140 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 1: on her faith and Jack I was refreshed to hear 141 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 1: you say that you thought that she gave a direct 142 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 1: and pointed answer, because you know, I think you know 143 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:39,680 Speaker 1: that we kind of live in a world where, sometimes, 144 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 1: you know, we forget that you can have faith no 145 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 1: matter what party you're affiliated with. But President Trump tweeted 146 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 1: out right after this exchange quote, Nancy Pelosi just had 147 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 1: a nervous fit. She hates that we will soon have 148 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 1: a hundred and eighty two great new judges and so 149 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 1: much more stock market and employment records. She says she 150 00:07:56,680 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 1: prays for the president. I don't believe her, not even close. 151 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 1: Help the homeless in your district, Nancy U s m 152 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 1: C A question mark, meaning there's a lot You're trying 153 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 1: to interpret Donald Trump's tweet. Hey, I've made a career 154 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 1: for there's a lot to work with. Ask about just 155 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 1: in terms of in terms of that getting done by 156 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 1: the end of the year. Well, look, it can absolutely 157 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 1: get done. I mean, I know it's sort of a cliche, 158 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 1: old phrase that we're all tired of saying, but it's true. 159 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 1: Walk And at the same time, I know, I'm sorry. 160 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 1: So we can the impeachment proceedings can go forward while 161 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 1: legislation is getting passed now. Fortunately, well I guess somewhat unfortunately, 162 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 1: we can pass this without Republican support, but we are 163 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 1: I mean we don't. We are going to pass it, 164 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 1: I guess rather with the Republican support. All the other 165 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 1: bills that we have passed so far have largely been 166 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 1: along party lines, which is a real disappointment. But I 167 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 1: think we're going to get this done. It means something. 168 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 1: This is going to be a rare opportunity I think 169 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:57,200 Speaker 1: for Democrats and Republicans to come forward. Mancy Pelosi has 170 00:08:57,200 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 1: made clear that she wants to get this done um 171 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 1: and Donald Rump has made it clear that he wants 172 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 1: to see this past. I just you know, look, I 173 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 1: will say this. I said it on air earlier today 174 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 1: from the White House after I left the Hill. I 175 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 1: was trying to see the vibe at the White House 176 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 1: on this impeachment day. The mood in the halls of 177 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 1: Congress was business as usual. Republicans and Democrats. You had 178 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:21,959 Speaker 1: Minution testifying before House Financial Services, you had there wasn't 179 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:24,840 Speaker 1: the circus level that there was during the Intel hearings, 180 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 1: just to a lesser extent, the Judiciary Committee hearings. And 181 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 1: this I think today Speaker Pelosi saying this is going 182 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 1: to likely get done by the end of the year. 183 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 1: Just gave Washington as well as the campaigns, as well 184 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 1: as the markets and also folks overseas a bit of 185 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 1: a timetable in terms of where things are going. All right, 186 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 1: coming up, we're gonna pivot. I really want to pick 187 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 1: everyone's brain about because there were some big endorsements today. Uh, 188 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:53,199 Speaker 1: and we'll pivot to more in policy as well. I'm 189 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 1: Kevin Surreally. Download the bloom the Bloomberg Sound On podcast 190 00:09:57,040 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 1: on Apple iTunes, at Bloomberg dot com, or by downloading 191 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:01,840 Speaker 1: the Bloomberg Business app. You can also find us on 192 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 1: Radio dot Com, I Heart Radio, and Spotify. I'm going 193 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 1: to the Sixers Wizards games tonight, and for the record, 194 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:10,679 Speaker 1: I'm rooting for the Philly Sixers. Okay, we love Washington, 195 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 1: but we're never giving up on Philadelphia. I'm Kevin Cirelli 196 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 1: with Adrian L. Rod and Jack Kingston. You're listening to Bloomberg. 197 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:25,840 Speaker 1: You're listening to Bloomberg Sound On with Kevin Sirelate on 198 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 1: Bloomberg and one oh five point seven F M H 199 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 1: D two. I want to do now, there were so 200 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 1: many developments today with the race. Did you see this 201 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:42,720 Speaker 1: Joe Biden's viral ad about world leaders making fun of 202 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 1: President Trump. I'm gonna I'm actually gonna play this ad 203 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 1: because I think it's uh, if we have it available 204 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 1: for us, it's it's pretty interesting stuff. I mean, well, actually, 205 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 1: let's not play the add because you know, then we 206 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 1: have to play every ad, you know what i mean. 207 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:57,960 Speaker 1: I'm talking to Christine. We're deciding that we're not going 208 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 1: to do the ad. We're gonna do the voter exchange. 209 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 1: I'm sorry everybody. Well, President or President Trump. As we 210 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 1: covered this week, he was at the NATO summit and 211 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:09,960 Speaker 1: got in the exchange where you had Emmanuel mcrown and 212 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 1: Justin Trudeau, you know, talking about him behind his back, 213 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:15,960 Speaker 1: and we did that yesterday. Joe Biden came out today 214 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 1: with an attack at saying that world leaders don't respect Trump. Meanwhile, 215 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 1: Joe Biden had a tense exchange with a voter in Iowa. 216 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 1: Joe Biden got into a heated exchange with an elderly 217 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:31,720 Speaker 1: voter today at an event in Iowa. The voter said 218 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:34,200 Speaker 1: to Biden that he thinks he's too old to run 219 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 1: for president. He also said that he was selling his 220 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:40,319 Speaker 1: his post as vice president because of his son, Hunter Biden. 221 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 1: And I'm gonna play for you this exchange. Take a 222 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 1: listen to this exchange that Joe Biden had with the voter. 223 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 1: I did not on any occasion, and no one anything wrong. 224 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:55,320 Speaker 1: I said, I set up my son to work on 225 00:11:55,360 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 1: an oil company, and not what you said. That's what 226 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 1: I here on the NBC. Here, wow, Adrian L. Rods here, 227 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 1: she's a Democratic insider. Jack Kingston as well former Georgia 228 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:17,080 Speaker 1: congressman Republican. Alright, Adrian, So I talked to the chatter 229 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 1: in town was this is bad for Joe Biden. But 230 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 1: I'm like, there's then there's other folks who were saying, no, 231 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:23,560 Speaker 1: this was this was good for Joe Biden. It shows 232 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 1: he's off the cuff. Good to bad for Joe Biden. Yeah, well, look, 233 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:29,720 Speaker 1: I think if you watch the exchange, it was definitely 234 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:33,080 Speaker 1: a little awkward. It felt a little um tense. And 235 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 1: I think if I was Donald Trump and his campaign, 236 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:36,560 Speaker 1: I would say, you know what we know if he's 237 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:38,680 Speaker 1: going to be the nominee, we know exactly how to 238 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 1: push his buttons, how to, for lack of a better term, 239 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 1: tick him off on that debate stage, and that's to 240 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 1: bring up his kids and bring up his family, and um, 241 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:50,319 Speaker 1: you know, I don't blame him for being upset because 242 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:53,319 Speaker 1: so much of this Ukrainian situation is a bunch of nonsense. 243 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 1: Is a deep but debunk conspiracy theory. And my friend 244 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 1: over here, um Jack's colleagues want to bring Hunter Biden 245 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 1: to testify, which is just crazy. It's going to happen. 246 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 1: But but all of that, But all of that being said, UM, 247 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:10,080 Speaker 1: I think he probably could have kept us. I don't know, 248 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 1: ke was cool a little bit more because this is 249 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 1: a voter or somebody took the time, you know, to 250 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 1: come listen to him talk. Simone Sanders, who is a 251 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:22,839 Speaker 1: senior spokesperson on Biden's campaign, tweeted that this person is 252 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:25,960 Speaker 1: a warrant supporter. But this person did say that they 253 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 1: would vote for the vice president should he be the 254 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 1: nominee and also said that his facts were wrong. So, 255 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:33,959 Speaker 1: you know, I think there was some pushback from the campaign. 256 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:36,720 Speaker 1: But here's the bottom line, Kevin. They had a great 257 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 1: video that they put out today that drove a lot 258 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 1: of press and got you know, Morning Joe played it 259 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:43,319 Speaker 1: in full. A lot of the shows on television have 260 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 1: played the adda fule and now we are talking about this, 261 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:48,959 Speaker 1: and that is probably not what the Biden campaign was 262 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 1: hoping for at this point. Jack, I think it actually 263 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 1: was a good moment for him because it does show 264 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 1: that Jack. I think he showed him as being veryl 265 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 1: and you know, damn it, you say something about my son, 266 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:04,679 Speaker 1: I'm gonna smack you. And you know, now among Republicans 267 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:06,839 Speaker 1: it's good to stand up for your son so well, 268 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 1: and by the way, it is for Democrats to I'm 269 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 1: just saying that. But but I think you'll believe that 270 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 1: you're defeating Joe. Let me tell you something. I do 271 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 1: think Hunter Biden is gonna be a witness. And I 272 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 1: think there is a link and there's a quid pro quote, 273 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 1: and we'll get to that later because that's not what 274 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 1: we're talking about. Also, I want to say this about 275 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 1: the ad. The ad was the world leaders making fun 276 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 1: of Trump. Now, that is gonna be great with the 277 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 1: New York Times and the Washington Post and uh, professor 278 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 1: what was her name? Kaplan from from Sandford and the 279 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 1: guy from North Carolina yesterday. But in terms of the 280 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 1: taxpaying truck driver back home, they're they're gonna be furious 281 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 1: and gonna say you, by god, you're talking about my president. 282 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 1: I don't care if it's Clinton, Obama, are Trump. You 283 00:14:57,520 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 1: guys can go jump in a lake. I'm gonna vote 284 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 1: for So let's good for us. For this is who 285 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 1: it works for. It appeals to those independent voters who 286 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 1: are going to decide this election at four to five 287 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 1: of the American electorate or I decided, who are independent 288 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 1: or lean, moderate Democrat, moderate Republican. Especially, it does appeal 289 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 1: to them because it reminds him that this person has 290 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 1: become he's made the United States a laughing stock and 291 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 1: thirty million I got a pivot um more of a 292 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 1: dollar commitment from NATO to boost up their difference. So 293 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 1: I don't I don't think it was a bad day 294 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 1: for Trump. I gotta, I gotta, we just say things 295 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 1: so different, like there's so much news today, and and 296 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 1: but Austin Coulsby, who advised Obama during the O eight 297 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:45,359 Speaker 1: campaign and he was the president's chief economic advisor, I was, 298 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 1: I was this this grabbed my attention today up on 299 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 1: the hill, the Obama's chief economic advisor. During the aftermath, 300 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 1: Austin Goulsby, big name in Bloomberg circles, I mean in 301 00:15:57,400 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 1: the f T crowd in the Wall Street Journal world 302 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 1: big name. Then Reggie Love, big name around town in Washington, 303 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 1: d C. Former President Obama's body man, I mean the 304 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 1: guy for President Obama. And Linda Douglas who was the 305 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 1: press traveling Press Secretary back in the wait. She previously 306 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 1: worked here for for a little bit. She was at 307 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:21,920 Speaker 1: CBS as a reporter and then landed. I believe a 308 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 1: DHS is the calms director. Um all endorsed Pete Bota Judge. Yeah, 309 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 1: this is a big, huge endorsement, huge endorsement trio of 310 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 1: endorsements from Mayor Pete Um. And these are people who 311 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 1: you know, served in the administration with the vice president, 312 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 1: with the Vice President Biden when he was serving as 313 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 1: Barack Obama's vice president. They worked in the same under 314 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 1: the same roof as he did, and they're choosing to 315 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 1: support Mayor Peate. These are also three people, Kevin, that 316 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 1: you can put on the campaign trail. You can send 317 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 1: them out as surrogates. They can if they're willing to. 318 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 1: They can raise money for you, they can do television 319 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 1: for you. They can you know, provide you know, whatever 320 00:16:57,880 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 1: sort of surrogate support that you need of the Campag trail. 321 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:05,280 Speaker 1: And that's a really big deal. She loves a big 322 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 1: win for May. Repeat. Especially right now, I'm hearing a 323 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:11,200 Speaker 1: little too much enthusiasm from Adrian. I'm wondering if if 324 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 1: you're going to ask her, when you're gonna put her 325 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:19,359 Speaker 1: on the spot endorsing anything. I repeat, But let me 326 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:25,240 Speaker 1: say this, Elizabeth Warren has lots of comments. Elizabeth Warren 327 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:27,720 Speaker 1: has lots of solid endorsements. And I know as a 328 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:30,440 Speaker 1: member of Congress, they all wanted to say, oh, we've 329 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 1: got twenty members of Congress or two hundred or whatever. 330 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:36,119 Speaker 1: I don't think endorsements truly do you any good unless 331 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:39,080 Speaker 1: you're the name brand governor of Iowa and you're really 332 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:41,199 Speaker 1: going to get out there. I mean, Reggie Love do 333 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 1: main squat to folks. I understand, but endorsements matter when 334 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 1: you don't have a lot, And if the question becomes 335 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 1: like back in, the question was how come no one's 336 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:53,879 Speaker 1: endorsed Ted Cruise? How come no one's endorsed Donald Trump? 337 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 1: And then they started to get some This comes at 338 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 1: a moment in which people were wondering whether or not 339 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 1: people to judge can expand, and his base can expand, 340 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 1: his his poll numbers can make inroads with the African 341 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 1: American community, and and it and and it also comes 342 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:09,199 Speaker 1: at a time in which Senator Warren's poll numbers have 343 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 1: started to dip. There's a new entrance into the race, 344 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:16,160 Speaker 1: a billionaire Michael Bloomberg. And you've also got Biden questions 345 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:18,920 Speaker 1: around Biden. So for people to judge today, to get 346 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:23,440 Speaker 1: three of these endorsements that are largely considered Obama world insiders, 347 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:27,440 Speaker 1: that's sending a message at least, that's right, That's right, Kevin. 348 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 1: And and look, Reggie Love is from I believe he's 349 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 1: from North Carolina, and he is a He's African American, 350 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 1: so that's you know huge. He was somebody that we 351 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:37,240 Speaker 1: sent out as a surrogate in two thousands sixteen for 352 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:41,199 Speaker 1: Hillary Um not not only in African American communities but 353 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:43,399 Speaker 1: across the country because he is so well known. But 354 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 1: I also want to say one worth thing. I want 355 00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 1: to give my props to my girl, Liz Smith for 356 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 1: this endorsement rollout, Because on a day where we are 357 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 1: dealing with impeachment, where we are dealing with a very 358 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:56,679 Speaker 1: you know, huge ad from the Biden campaign that was 359 00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:58,920 Speaker 1: considered to be a little risk. Ay, there's a lot 360 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:02,200 Speaker 1: going on, and the fact that this got so much traction, 361 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 1: I think it was a My my guest is Liz 362 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 1: Smith really decided, let's get the three of these guys together, 363 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 1: let's roll them out. I think I think it is 364 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 1: a big deal when Pete bootle Edge finally gets one 365 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 1: African American to support him, so that that I'm going 366 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:18,720 Speaker 1: to give that He's got more than that. But the 367 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:23,160 Speaker 1: truth of the matter is, with Kamala Harris leaving UM, 368 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:29,640 Speaker 1: the progressive wing which bootl edges, I'm trying to get 369 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 1: the mayor, Pete is so much easier for me. Okay, 370 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:37,280 Speaker 1: I just think he's emerging. It's just one more progressive. 371 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 1: I believe that this race is Joe Biden's and Bloomberg's 372 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 1: right now. I think Bloomberg because Bloomberg injects something the 373 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 1: Democrat Party really doesn't have among their candidates, and that's 374 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:55,480 Speaker 1: business chops. Tom Stire nobody knows of. For whatever reason, 375 00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:58,160 Speaker 1: he hasn't caught on fire. But Bloomberg is a guy 376 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 1: who has run one of the largest he's in the world, 377 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 1: and he's got some things done on it, and you 378 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:06,400 Speaker 1: know he was running. He was a Republican, been an independent. 379 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 1: Now he's a Democrat and he's got a message. I 380 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:12,440 Speaker 1: disagree with the message on gun control, but he has 381 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:15,639 Speaker 1: identified himself with the issue, and during the election he 382 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 1: put a lot of money in congressional races for pro 383 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:23,119 Speaker 1: gun control candidates. So there's some he's got some stuff 384 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:26,439 Speaker 1: to talk about. Yeah. Look, I mean, I think it's 385 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:28,919 Speaker 1: a little too early in my view to say that 386 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 1: this is a race between Biden and Bloomberg. But I 387 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:32,879 Speaker 1: think it's going to be very interesting to see how 388 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:35,720 Speaker 1: this plays out because what the Bloomberg team is doing 389 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:38,679 Speaker 1: is something that is extremely unconventional. We've not seen this 390 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 1: in modern day democratic primary politics, which is not playing 391 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:49,120 Speaker 1: in the first four states, but not just doubling, but tripling. Yeah, 392 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:52,199 Speaker 1: but Giuliani did not have the kind of resources that 393 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:54,919 Speaker 1: Mike Bloomberg has, Right, So you think about this, You're 394 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:57,359 Speaker 1: gonna have candidates who are coming out of the first 395 00:20:57,359 --> 00:20:59,400 Speaker 1: four states with momentum. But I think we know at 396 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 1: this point not one person is going to win all 397 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:04,440 Speaker 1: four states. We know that to be a fact, which 398 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 1: means that you're going to have probably three or four 399 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:08,919 Speaker 1: people coming out of the first four states with a 400 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:12,399 Speaker 1: lot of momentum but completely broke because they're spending all 401 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 1: of their money and resources on the first four states. 402 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:17,960 Speaker 1: Contrast with that with Mike Bloomberg, who didn't spend a 403 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:20,239 Speaker 1: dime in the first four but has a major and 404 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:23,760 Speaker 1: will have a major, full fledged operation in all the 405 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:26,359 Speaker 1: Super Tuesday states backed by a lot of paid media. 406 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:30,119 Speaker 1: Can that momentum blunt that or vice versa. Let me 407 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:32,960 Speaker 1: ask a follow up question on that, because resources, say, 408 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:37,440 Speaker 1: is unlimited resources unlimited AK money is what it's money. 409 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:42,200 Speaker 1: But but you look at the other candidates grassroots level, 410 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:47,400 Speaker 1: you know, so does he have the grassroots support? Well, 411 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:50,199 Speaker 1: here's the question at this point, I mean, yeah, there 412 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:52,480 Speaker 1: are people five for some of Americans right now according 413 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:56,360 Speaker 1: to like the Real Clear Politics average support Mike Bloomberg, 414 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:58,440 Speaker 1: So yes, he does have some grassroots support, but he's 415 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:01,720 Speaker 1: not taking grassroot roots donates, so we know that it's 416 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:04,119 Speaker 1: hard to measure actually how much grassroots support he has 417 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:06,720 Speaker 1: because we're not seeing it in donations enthusiasm. And the 418 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 1: question becomes, Here's what I think is political scientists will 419 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 1: look at this and study this for years. How much 420 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:17,159 Speaker 1: can money buy you? Because he has unlimited resources, to 421 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:20,920 Speaker 1: the point that we made time and time again unlimited resources. 422 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:24,400 Speaker 1: How much can he use that money effectively to get 423 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 1: votes in his corner? Because what he can't buy is votes. 424 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 1: He can spend a lot of money to try to 425 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:31,640 Speaker 1: keep people to support him, but he can't go out 426 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:34,200 Speaker 1: and say, hey, so and so, here's a thousand backs 427 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:37,359 Speaker 1: vote for me. So how does this actually work out? 428 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:39,080 Speaker 1: But he's also got look, I want to say one 429 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:42,920 Speaker 1: more thing. He has an incredibly smart team behind him, 430 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:47,639 Speaker 1: very experienced operatives who are running a very analytically driven operation. 431 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:51,199 Speaker 1: So everything is bad, No, but it's true. Kevin's kind 432 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 1: of smiling over here, But it's true and it matters 433 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:58,120 Speaker 1: a lot. Smiling we did the same thing. I am 434 00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:01,639 Speaker 1: not smiling. I'm covering it and um and you know 435 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 1: it is what it is. I mean, reality is the 436 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 1: reality is the chatters among the reporting is does he 437 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:11,840 Speaker 1: prevent does he present a foil to Bernie and Liz 438 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:13,760 Speaker 1: Warren like at me, like I know them on the 439 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 1: first name basis, to Senator Warren and Senator Sanders, or 440 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:20,520 Speaker 1: does he take away votes from Buddha Jedge and draw 441 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 1: a contrast to Buddha judge in terms of experience versus 442 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:26,560 Speaker 1: Uh and Biden. If he presents that and that's just 443 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:29,920 Speaker 1: the unknown, you know, to both of your points. I mean, 444 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 1: this is just a question, Jack, I'll ask to you. 445 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 1: Would we be talking about him so much if he 446 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 1: didn't spend that much money? Um? Well, I think Number one, 447 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 1: we all know the name Bloomberg and so there is 448 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 1: a degree of name identity that that comes with that. 449 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:47,919 Speaker 1: Number two, most of us know who the mayor of 450 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:50,920 Speaker 1: New York City is. And the thing that I would say, Adrian, 451 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 1: that that he does have coming out of New York 452 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 1: is there so many different constituencies. It's like a United Nations, Um, 453 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:01,920 Speaker 1: you know, times eight million people and you've got to 454 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:04,000 Speaker 1: know how to talk to different people. Yeah. I think 455 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:06,639 Speaker 1: that's gonna pay big, big dividends because he has been 456 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 1: an on hands guy. Mayors tend to be people who 457 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 1: make things happen. So I think he's gonna be a 458 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:15,120 Speaker 1: force combined with the money. I just believe that he's 459 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 1: gonna he's gonna be one of the last men standing 460 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:21,240 Speaker 1: before we win next year in November, we'll elect Trump. 461 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 1: We'll see and mark my words, all cover up. Mary. 462 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:29,479 Speaker 1: Just we'll see how many delegates slip in that Trump 463 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 1: comment and I'll cover it. Disclaimer Michael Bloomberg, founder and 464 00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 1: majority owner of Bloomberg Alp, The parent company of Bloomberg News, 465 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:40,440 Speaker 1: Jack and Adrian el Rider. Here download the Bloomberg is 466 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:42,840 Speaker 1: ound On podcast on Apple iTunes of Bloomberg dot com, 467 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:45,400 Speaker 1: or by downloading the Bloomberg Business app. You can also 468 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:47,880 Speaker 1: find us on Radio dot com, I Heart Radio, and Spotify. 469 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:50,680 Speaker 1: I'm Kevin Silly and I am a Philadelphia fan. You're 470 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:58,439 Speaker 1: listening to Bloomberg. You're listening to Bloomberg Sound On with 471 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:02,640 Speaker 1: Kevin Surley on bloom and one oh five point seven 472 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:07,840 Speaker 1: f M h D two. Treasury Secretary Stephen Manuan testified 473 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 1: up on Capitol Hill today the House Financial Services Committee, 474 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:14,919 Speaker 1: talking about F sok and and and the likes. And 475 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:16,320 Speaker 1: I asked him when he was in the hallway on 476 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:19,639 Speaker 1: the way out, I said, Mr Secretary, how our trade 477 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:22,719 Speaker 1: talks with the U. S and China still on track? 478 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 1: On track? And he looked me in the eyes and 479 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:28,440 Speaker 1: he said, yes they are. So it would appear that's 480 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 1: some good positive rhetoric coming from senior administration officials. My 481 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 1: colleague Seleia Mosum also asked him a similar question, and 482 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:40,440 Speaker 1: he seems, you know, like he's talking about positivity. Adrian L. 483 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:44,160 Speaker 1: Rods here, democratic insider on all things twenty and deep 484 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 1: ties to the political world on the left. And of 485 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:49,920 Speaker 1: course Jack Kinston, Jack, I feel like I know you 486 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:51,359 Speaker 1: so well that on the way out I called you 487 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 1: Jack and I didn't say your last name, and I 488 00:25:53,560 --> 00:26:00,360 Speaker 1: thought it was good. Jack Dorsey Twitter, Jack. Basis kind 489 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:07,280 Speaker 1: of like the Donald got my former Georgia congressman Republican. Uh. Look, 490 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:13,119 Speaker 1: US and China markets were, uh, you know, super super 491 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:15,960 Speaker 1: following this. They're not they didn't blink on impeachment, but 492 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:17,960 Speaker 1: they're but they're following the twists and terns of of 493 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:21,399 Speaker 1: all the different tariffs and whatnot. And you know, the 494 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 1: rhetoric of the past twenty four hours was they might 495 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:28,439 Speaker 1: get to a deal Adrian by December. And you know 496 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:32,240 Speaker 1: who knows, But it seems like everyone on Wall Street, 497 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:34,160 Speaker 1: and not just on Wall Street, by the way, folks 498 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 1: in their cars on their way home from work or 499 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:38,199 Speaker 1: watching their four oh one case, and folks who are 500 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:40,960 Speaker 1: looking at their who are looking at their investments. As 501 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 1: we still have talked about whether or not there's going 502 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 1: to be an economic slowdown. Debate jury still out on that. 503 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:51,920 Speaker 1: But this trade issue, I'm still stunned has not been 504 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:55,879 Speaker 1: a large has not broken through to the level of 505 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:59,720 Speaker 1: the GOP tax plan or even repeal and replace of 506 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:02,960 Speaker 1: a care Yeah. You know, you raise a good point, 507 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:05,040 Speaker 1: and I'm not sure there's you know, I think there's 508 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:07,160 Speaker 1: a lot of theories maybe why it hasn't broken through 509 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:09,320 Speaker 1: to that extent, given the fact that we've now got 510 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:13,159 Speaker 1: more competing interest media wise, right, We've got twenty We 511 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 1: didn't have that during the tax the tax man, the election. 512 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 1: We've got impeachment. Um, you know, we've got whatever Donald 513 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 1: Trump decides to tweet every day, which the media is 514 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 1: still it seems to do breaking news on and what 515 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:27,840 Speaker 1: a Donald Trump tweets. So, you know, we've got a 516 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:30,359 Speaker 1: number of competing factors. But the bottom line is this 517 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:34,120 Speaker 1: is a bipartisan effort that um, and it is sadly 518 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 1: in an era where we're not getting any kind of 519 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:39,560 Speaker 1: bipartisan legislation done. I think this may be the one thing, 520 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:42,880 Speaker 1: the one big bill that we'll see Democrats and Republicans 521 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:46,400 Speaker 1: yes come together on and and you know, we'll see 522 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:48,400 Speaker 1: what happens, So you're right, it's not driving the news 523 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:50,679 Speaker 1: that I thought. And the reason I'm stunned by that 524 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:53,239 Speaker 1: is just because in terms of the issues that are 525 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:55,480 Speaker 1: still out there, we talked about trade, especially in the 526 00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 1: financial press every single day. You both know this. I mean, 527 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 1: every financial porter in town is just obsessed with these 528 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:04,199 Speaker 1: tariffs and whatnot, as we should be. They have, you know, 529 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 1: huge impacts. But in terms of the issues that are 530 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:09,600 Speaker 1: still out there, and I was talking to Jonathan Faroh, 531 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:12,680 Speaker 1: my colleague Jonathan Faroh about this earlier this morning ahead 532 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:16,120 Speaker 1: of the opening bell on Bloomberg TV. Where you have 533 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:21,640 Speaker 1: intellectual property, you've got national security. You know, you saw 534 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:24,440 Speaker 1: the NBA fallout in the Hong Kong Bill and everything, 535 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:28,919 Speaker 1: and some really major national security issues as it relates 536 00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:32,520 Speaker 1: to China and anywhere you go. There's an uneasiness on 537 00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:35,200 Speaker 1: the left and the right about President shi Jing Ping. 538 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:38,720 Speaker 1: And that's why I am so stunned that President Shi 539 00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 1: Jing Ping and how candidates would deal with President she 540 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:45,000 Speaker 1: and contrasting that with the current occupant of the White 541 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:49,480 Speaker 1: House hasn't emerged as something of an issue, and candidly, 542 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:52,680 Speaker 1: I think it will I really do believe that how 543 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:54,880 Speaker 1: to deal with China will be an issue in the 544 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:57,080 Speaker 1: coming weeks. Well, the first, first of all, I don't 545 00:28:57,120 --> 00:29:00,400 Speaker 1: think the trade war has affected most people. If if 546 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,320 Speaker 1: you're a corporation, you're looking at your bottom line, yes, 547 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:06,320 Speaker 1: but I think that the average shopper out there doesn't. 548 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:09,000 Speaker 1: Oh golly, these socks are really expensive now because of 549 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:13,160 Speaker 1: the trade war, and until the normal average person feels 550 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:15,080 Speaker 1: the effect of it, I don't think they're gonna be 551 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 1: a tuned to it. That's number one. Number two, you've 552 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:22,240 Speaker 1: touched base on the national security aspect um, I do 553 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:24,880 Speaker 1: some cifious work the Committee on Foreign Investment in the 554 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:27,640 Speaker 1: United States, and and I can say this that with 555 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:30,920 Speaker 1: the emerging technologies that we have, we don't have the 556 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:33,960 Speaker 1: regulatory authority to know, well, okay, what should we share 557 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:36,440 Speaker 1: and what should we keep in terms of I P 558 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 1: and so forth. And we all know that there are 559 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:42,920 Speaker 1: forced technology transfers to China, and that is a big 560 00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:46,480 Speaker 1: issue that I think most people will pause on that. Okay, 561 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:48,960 Speaker 1: wait a minute, we do want to sell to China, 562 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:52,080 Speaker 1: but but selling, you know, selling shoes back and forth, 563 00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 1: it's a lot different than missile technology. You know, and 564 00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:56,400 Speaker 1: just to jump in on that on that point, just 565 00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:59,360 Speaker 1: two things that you said, especially as it relates to 566 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 1: some of these other foreign foreign UH companies and China's 567 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:08,320 Speaker 1: state owned predominantly Huawei, for example, the major development I 568 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:10,720 Speaker 1: was stunned by this. And we had Rob Strayer on 569 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:13,400 Speaker 1: earlier this week from the State's Department, the Trump States Department, 570 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:17,600 Speaker 1: and he's more a he's appointee for Trump, but more 571 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:20,560 Speaker 1: a political I know, I see Adrian being like, really 572 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:27,720 Speaker 1: is that possible? But especially the State UH, and and 573 00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 1: and and Europe changed their tune on Huawei this week 574 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:35,000 Speaker 1: because of and and really kind of came back around 575 00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 1: to the US and Mark Warner Marco Rubio have been 576 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:42,160 Speaker 1: driving forces bipartisan wides as it relates to Fahwei. So 577 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:46,000 Speaker 1: there are areas as it relates to China of national 578 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:49,760 Speaker 1: pertaining to national security that are of interest. And I'm 579 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:53,360 Speaker 1: just stunned that a lot of these candidates, like Senator 580 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:56,920 Speaker 1: more and like Bernie Sanders, Biden, Buddha j Edge have 581 00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:01,720 Speaker 1: yet to tap into what US China relations would look 582 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:04,800 Speaker 1: like in a democratic White House. And I I'm willing 583 00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:07,840 Speaker 1: to predict, and I don't usually do that that eventually 584 00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:10,320 Speaker 1: that will come up coming up. There is never enough time, 585 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:12,280 Speaker 1: so we're gonna have to do a quick version of 586 00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:15,000 Speaker 1: what's on the panel's radar. But I'm very excited to 587 00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:18,160 Speaker 1: see what Jack Kingston and Adrian Adrian, how about that. 588 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:20,400 Speaker 1: I'll just I'll just say, Adrian on the way out, 589 00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:23,280 Speaker 1: what will be on their radar? I'm Kevin, Adrian, the 590 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:34,120 Speaker 1: the Adrian. I'm Kevin Cirelli. You're listening to Bloomberg nine. Mom, 591 00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 1: this is Bloomberg Sound On with Kevin Sirrel on Bloomberg 592 00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:41,840 Speaker 1: and one oh five point seven f m h D 593 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:45,400 Speaker 1: two little Keith Urban ahead of the Sixers likely win 594 00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:48,560 Speaker 1: over the Washington Wizards. I'm Kevin Cirelli, chief Washington correspondent 595 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:51,360 Speaker 1: for Bloomberg Television, had Bloomberg Radio. I will be at 596 00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:53,520 Speaker 1: the game tonight. I'm so excited. I've been looking forward 597 00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:56,760 Speaker 1: to this all week. Trust me, Adrian E. Rods Here, 598 00:31:56,800 --> 00:32:01,080 Speaker 1: democratic strategist, former director of strategic communications for the Hillary 599 00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:05,560 Speaker 1: Clinton presidential campaign. Just full transparency, Adrian. I got a 600 00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:08,080 Speaker 1: little bit of a tiff with Adrian that Hillary went 601 00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:13,120 Speaker 1: on Howard Stern and not Bloomberg sound On. Yeah, um, 602 00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:16,640 Speaker 1: And I said you should take that up with her staff. 603 00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:22,080 Speaker 1: You are her staff exactly, not her staff. Jack Kinson, 604 00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:25,200 Speaker 1: former Georgia cocassman. Jack, maybe you could ask Hillary Clinton 605 00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:27,280 Speaker 1: to come on. You know, we're very close and I'm 606 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:30,400 Speaker 1: sure we'll get that job done. We have like two 607 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:32,560 Speaker 1: minutes so quick. What's on your radar? Jack, Well, I 608 00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:36,600 Speaker 1: want to say this about the debonair Kevin Sorelli Number one. 609 00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:38,760 Speaker 1: I don't know if you've seen the Irish Men, but 610 00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:42,320 Speaker 1: I'm watching it. There is a mention that I don't 611 00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:44,120 Speaker 1: know if they think they only have one ail in 612 00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:52,080 Speaker 1: the word, but I just know there's because you know, yeah, 613 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:58,320 Speaker 1: if you google your family, cousins, relatives from the Old Country. 614 00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:01,000 Speaker 1: I mean it's really because you know, Jimmy Hoffa was 615 00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:04,640 Speaker 1: allegedly one of the burial spots in Savannah. We're very 616 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:09,760 Speaker 1: proud of that. Jack want to say, I'm being so 617 00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:13,440 Speaker 1: tight lepped, my friend. Well, you know where that body is? No, 618 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:17,280 Speaker 1: I don't, Oh my gosh. Anyway, we wanted it to 619 00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:19,360 Speaker 1: be in Savannah. It was good for tourism. But they 620 00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:21,880 Speaker 1: have to bunk that unfortunately. Okay, listen, I have not 621 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:24,440 Speaker 1: seen the Irishman. I'm very excited to watch it. I've 622 00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:26,880 Speaker 1: I've been holding off on watching it. I might actually 623 00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:28,200 Speaker 1: watch it this weekend, but I do have off a 624 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:30,720 Speaker 1: couple of days next week, and my parents are telling 625 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:33,600 Speaker 1: me I have to see this, So I'm very excited. 626 00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:36,400 Speaker 1: I'm very excited to watch it. UM. But we only 627 00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:37,920 Speaker 1: have a minute left. So that was what was on 628 00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:40,640 Speaker 1: your radar? And that's a great thing. I love it. 629 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:43,760 Speaker 1: I can't wait to watch the Irishman what's on your radar? 630 00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:48,360 Speaker 1: So I remain obsessed with this. Um. You know, the 631 00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:52,120 Speaker 1: notion that we're going to have several candidates who come 632 00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:54,200 Speaker 1: out with a lot of momentum out of the first 633 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:58,040 Speaker 1: four states, UM, but completely broke because they've spent all 634 00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:00,719 Speaker 1: of their resources trying to win and pick up delegates 635 00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:03,360 Speaker 1: in the first four states. Then going into Super Tuesday, 636 00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:05,280 Speaker 1: where Mike Bloomberg has been spending a lot of money, 637 00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:06,880 Speaker 1: a lot of resources, has a lot of staff on 638 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,360 Speaker 1: the ground, And how does that how do those two 639 00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:13,359 Speaker 1: different situations collide, um, How does that impact the race? 640 00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:16,800 Speaker 1: Does Mike Bloomberg, UM, you know, emerges the front runner 641 00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:21,440 Speaker 1: because he has been investing strategically UM in certain areas 642 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:23,960 Speaker 1: and other candidates simply can't or haven't because they don't 643 00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:26,200 Speaker 1: have the resources, and he picks up delegates that way, 644 00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:28,759 Speaker 1: and thus he becomes the front runner or does he 645 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:31,600 Speaker 1: um sink in the polls because he doesn't have the 646 00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:34,080 Speaker 1: momentum that is generated by the earned media that you 647 00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:36,279 Speaker 1: get from winning some of these big states. Um on 648 00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:40,480 Speaker 1: the on the front that it really is. I mean, 649 00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:42,480 Speaker 1: and this is the thing. I don't think most voters 650 00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:45,840 Speaker 1: around the country are as obsessed with the ins and outs, 651 00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:48,279 Speaker 1: but we'll see. And of course, just as that disclaimer, 652 00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:50,799 Speaker 1: he is the founder majority owner of Bloomberg LPA, the 653 00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:54,400 Speaker 1: parent company of Bloomberg News. Quickly, what's on my radar? 654 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:59,640 Speaker 1: Gus Kenworthy switched allegiance. The US Olympic skier joins great, 655 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:03,680 Speaker 1: it's team. You know you're either you know, I know 656 00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:06,399 Speaker 1: we're tight with the Brits. But I mean, if you're 657 00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:12,719 Speaker 1: an American, you know, do the America. All right, I'm 658 00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:14,880 Speaker 1: Kevin Cili. Thanks for listening. Everybody, have a great night. 659 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:16,400 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Nie and nine one