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Speaker 1: it's our two. Welcome in, It's the Herd. Wherever you

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Speaker 1: may be and however you may be listening. Thanks for

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Speaker 1: making us part of your day. By the way, Aj

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Speaker 1: Presenci's gonna come on a couple of minutes, one of

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Speaker 1: only eleven catchers we got into this discussion during the break.

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Speaker 1: With over two thousand hits. The idea of being a

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Speaker 1: catcher today is not as daunting as being a catcher

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Speaker 1: in the seventies and the eighties with AstroTurf, although Aj

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Speaker 1: Vent in Philadelphia, so Cal Rawley. It's just very few

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Speaker 1: catchers have been prodigious hitters. Johnny Bench was, Mike Piazza was,

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Speaker 1: Joe Mauer was, but he transitioned to first base eventually.

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Speaker 1: Pud Rodriguez, I think, was a big time hitter, but

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Speaker 1: it's it is that is asking a lot. So I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna get aj Perzinski again. He could hit. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: start with this though. So you know, camps are going

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Speaker 1: to open up this weekend, and we know certain teams

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Speaker 1: aren't going to be great. Like I think we all

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Speaker 1: kind of know, like New Orleans is gonna may go

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Speaker 1: their potential infernos. I think the team that could fall

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Speaker 1: apart fast, like three weeks in, four weeks in is

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Speaker 1: the New York Giants. So Russell Wilson, talking with Sports Illustrated,

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Speaker 1: says Carmelo Anthony gave him advice on being a great

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Speaker 2: It's funny because me and Carmelo we're talking about this.

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Speaker 3: He's like, man, this is the perfect place for you

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Speaker 3: to re establish who Russell Wilson really is. Right, not

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Speaker 3: just how you play on the field, but which you

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Speaker 3: do the community, different things you're able to impact the people.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: You know, it doesn't get any bigger than New York City.

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Speaker 1: So I think the Giants. I mean, you've got a

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Speaker 1: who's probably not ready to play. But if you go

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Speaker 1: demand it. You have a general manager who I'm not

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Speaker 1: Jaden Daniels now is serious. So and if you look

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Speaker 1: at their schedule the first nine weeks, there's nothing in

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Speaker 1: the NFL close to it. It's got one in eight

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Speaker 1: written all over it. It is brutal. Jaden Daniels, Dak Mahomes, Justin,

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Speaker 1: go from highly elusive, very good to Wow, we've got

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Speaker 1: to get rid of this contract. I can't explain it.

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Speaker 1: Brady aged gracefully. Russell Wilson got old fast. And what's

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Speaker 1: World champ, joining us SO Okay, So part of being

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Speaker 4: But did it really take anything away from the game

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Speaker 4: I think he was nine for nine in spring training

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Speaker 4: If they went to full time robo umps, it would

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Speaker 4: But this is cool, man. The fans loved it, the

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Speaker 4: As you see you right here, look at Schoobl's reaction,

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Speaker 4: But I love it. I think it's great, and I

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Speaker 1: So there was a lot of pushback. And I've said

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Speaker 2: No, it didn't. What bothered me was the way he

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Speaker 4: And this is nothing against Miss at all, but how

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Speaker 4: But you had Ranger Suarez couldn't pitch. You had Jonathan

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Speaker 4: You can't just keep going down Phillies until you run

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Speaker 4: And I had the only problem I had was five appearances. Fine,

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Speaker 1: So years ago, people you know, listen baseball more than

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Speaker 1: Manfred did the pitchclock, it sped the game up, and

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Speaker 1: Are you surprised that there really hasn't been a problem

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Speaker 1: the ratings are up. Did you think there'd be more

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Speaker 4: No. I mean I thought there would be, but there

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Speaker 4: salesman in the stadiums, But as a broadcaster, I love it.

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Speaker 4: Are you kidding me? We used to do if we

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Speaker 2: What took so long? What are we doing?

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Speaker 2: So I love the pitch clock.

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Speaker 4: Now pitchers have complained, some of the older guys, but

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Speaker 4: and there's more action, which I'm all for.

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Speaker 1: So you were a catcher for a long time. Joe

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Speaker 1: I mean, take me through your experience of having to hit.

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Speaker 1: You're one of eleven guys that played catcher with two

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Speaker 1: thousand hits. Are you surprised that Cal Rawley, despite that

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Speaker 1: what you're wearing, the crouch, how it beats you up physically?

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Speaker 1: He's leading baseball and homers.

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Speaker 4: Am I surprised? Yes, because look at his numbers last year.

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Speaker 4: I think he had a career at thirty yes, thirty

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Speaker 4: eight homers. I know he went out this offseason and

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Speaker 4: But here's the thing called you can catch on a

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Speaker 4: he plays in Seattle. Other than the travel, the weather

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Speaker 4: sixty five seventy degrees with the roof. If he gets

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Speaker 4: shady for him. He's got a great chance to do

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Speaker 4: something we've never seen. He should break the all time

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Speaker 2: Now the question is can he get to sixty sixty five, seventy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, AJ Perzinski is always great scene and what a

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Speaker 4: Of course he did because he had a big home

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Speaker 4: Would have made the fans stay, you know, it had

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Speaker 1: I'm all for great seeing you again, appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Had the All Star Game last night, Caitlin Clark has

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Speaker 1: heard again there's massive Lebron James trading rumors which I

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Speaker 5: This is the head news, right, Colin.

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Speaker 8: All Star game last night had a lot of ABS fun.

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Speaker 8: I know you're all over this. We saw it early

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Speaker 1: Oh no, challenge, Yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if it can come from the It

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Speaker 1: I think it's gonna work.

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Speaker 7: I think, al, how'd you do?

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Speaker 7: I get the shy.

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Speaker 1: That's messed up, that's messed up?

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Speaker 5: Hey, hey, you take them anyway you can get them

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Speaker 5: I had confidence in you, so Colin.

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Speaker 7: gotta hate this, right, you cannot like this.

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Speaker 8: I mean, you look like a moron missing this. And

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Speaker 8: there was one at the very last bitch of the game.

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Speaker 8: I believe that forced the home run derby. I just

436
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Speaker 8: wonder how long umpires are going to be around after

437
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Speaker 8: this is I call this a success last time.

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Speaker 1: Well, we may have robots behind the plate soon enough. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: I'm impressed by how it look at the player's reaction

440
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Speaker 1: to it, Like it's a little bit like unveiling. You know,

441
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Speaker 1: there used to be that game show behind door number

442
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Speaker 1: three and all weight it for it. Let's make a deal,

443
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Speaker 1: and it's got a little bit of a let's make

444
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Speaker 1: a call to it, like you kind of sit there

445
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Speaker 1: and everybody's kind of waiting. I'm impressed by how fast

446
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Speaker 1: they can activate it. It's over in thirty seconds. My

447
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Speaker 1: first take was, I mean, I watched college football games.

448
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Speaker 1: The replay literally stops momentum of a great play, like

449
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Speaker 1: it stops the game, and so like, I'm impressed by

450
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Speaker 1: how quickly, how actionable that you get an answer.

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Speaker 8: It's kind of blows NFL and NBA replay can take

452
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Speaker 8: like literally ninety seconds, two minutes, three minutes, and they're

453
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Speaker 8: looking at it from fifty.

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Speaker 7: Angles and it's very clear this was done in a heartbeat.

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Speaker 8: I mean, the baseball has really they're gonna have to

456
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Speaker 8: make football and basketball level up pretty quickly on this stuff, right,

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Speaker 8: I agree?

458
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Speaker 7: Yeah, all right. Let's go to the next story.

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Speaker 8: And we teased it earlier in the show, but there's

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Speaker 8: now a list of the top ten wide receivers in

461
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Speaker 8: the NFL. This is according to executives, coaches, and scouts.

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Speaker 8: Jamar Chase was number one. I don't think there could

463
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Speaker 8: be major equival with that. Justin Jefferson checked.

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Speaker 7: In at two.

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Speaker 8: Again, I don't think anybody could argue. What's interesting is

466
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Speaker 8: rounding out the top five, they had Tyreek Hill number three,

467
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Speaker 8: CD Lamb for a j Brown five, your guy aman

468
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Speaker 8: Ro Saint Brown at six. No Puka Nakua in the

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Speaker 8: top ten. I'm sure you have issue with that. Jarro Wilson,

470
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Speaker 8: my guy of the Jets checking in at ten. I

471
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Speaker 8: thought Malik Dabers was a little high. You can clearly

472
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Speaker 8: see that he.

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Speaker 7: Has a on a talent. If you ever Ha's a

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Speaker 7: quarterback lookout. But your take on.

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Speaker 1: The the list, Yeah, I have Puka Nakou in there somewhere.

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Speaker 7: You gotta boot somebody. We're not doing this internet thing.

477
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Speaker 1: Oh you go to having me?

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Speaker 7: Who are you taking out of the top ten?

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Speaker 1: A little harder than right, Probably Garrett Wilson. Sorry, I

480
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Speaker 1: think Aj Brown. I take Aj Brown over Tyreek Kills.

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Speaker 8: So a lot of people say he doesn't have the

482
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Speaker 8: statistical profile to be anywhere near the top five because

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Speaker 8: he doesn't have the target share.

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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, AJ Brown played for Tennessee with Derrick Henry

485
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Speaker 1: run first team, and then he goes to Philadelphia Sakuon

486
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Speaker 1: Barkley last year run first team. They only threw the

487
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Speaker 1: ball twenty four times a game. And so I mean,

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Speaker 1: I look at AJ Brown as he just hasn't had

489
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Speaker 1: the environment. I mean, go look at Randy Moss's career.

490
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Speaker 1: He was always talented. He plays with Tom Brady, He's

491
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Speaker 1: in fifty point games. Like AJ Brown played for one

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Speaker 1: centric Tennessee with Ryan Tannehill and Derrick Henry and and

493
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Speaker 1: it was kind of a physical Mike Frable team run

494
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Speaker 1: first and then he goes to a Philadelphia team which

495
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Speaker 1: Jalen hurts. They literally have for the five week. Fifth

496
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Speaker 1: week by said we're gonna throw the ball less. So

497
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Speaker 1: in AJ Brown's always been like a little he can

498
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Speaker 1: tell with the book on the sideline. He's a little

499
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Speaker 1: myth by the fact they don't use him enough. But

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Speaker 1: I would put AJ Brown third if I had to

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Speaker 1: make a h third.

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Speaker 8: Wow, Okay, interesting A lot of people were saying he

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Speaker 8: should be lower. I will say when he was in Tennessee,

504
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Speaker 8: there was a number one seed in the AFC and

505
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Speaker 8: he was a beast. Then he goes to the Eagles

506
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Speaker 8: and they're in two Super Bowls. Obviously there's a lot

507
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Speaker 8: of players that that factor in. I think AJ Grodd

508
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Speaker 8: is elite.

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Speaker 7: I have no issue with that.

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Speaker 8: My thing is Tyree killcomor like if you're picking guys,

511
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Speaker 8: I don't know.

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Speaker 7: That he's top five for me.

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Speaker 8: Yes, the skill is there in the speed, but there's

514
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Speaker 8: so much other nonsense that goes with this guy that

515
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Speaker 8: doesn't that have to factor in.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, by the way, Puka Nakua no nonsense.

517
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Speaker 1: PFF had Pookin Nakua as their number one receiver last year.

518
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Speaker 7: He hasn't even had the top ten Accoyd to executives.

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Speaker 1: Garrett Wilson or Poka Nakua. No gms take it, Garrett.

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Speaker 7: Not time out.

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Speaker 8: I'm not gonna let just slander my guy. But Garrett

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Speaker 8: Wilson has had you know, half a leg Aaron Rodgers,

523
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Speaker 8: Zach Wilson, isn't it anybody you give him?

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Speaker 7: Matt Stafford and Garrett Wilson might be top six on

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Speaker 7: this list.

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, sure you've had all right.

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Speaker 8: Final story. Kirby's smart colin. He was at SEC media

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Speaker 8: Days yesterday and uh, you know, I talked about the

530
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Speaker 8: new influx of nil money and how it's really changed

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Speaker 8: some players, making it harder to recruit.

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Speaker 7: Guys and achieved team goals. He's got some points here.

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Speaker 10: There's people more in college football today, especially in the SEC,

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Speaker 10: that are comfortable with where they are. This is a

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Speaker 10: pretty good life. I'm earning two hundred K a year.

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Speaker 10: I'm very comfortable. Hey, you don't reach your goals being comfortable.

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Speaker 10: What you see now is like, where's the drive and

538
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Speaker 10: energy and enthusiasm. Well, we want people that have it.

539
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Speaker 10: We're gonna seek it. We're gonna try to go find it.

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Speaker 10: And if we can just do that one percent better

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Speaker 10: than everybody else, gives us an opportunity to be ahead.

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Speaker 1: Well, I think that's every industry in America. A lot

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Speaker 1: of people are I don't think that's a fair criticism

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Speaker 1: of players. I think that's everybody in America. Not everybody

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Speaker 1: is aspirational, not everybody. My daughter is a really smart kid,

546
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Speaker 1: but she's like a dad. I don't want to own

547
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Speaker 1: a business. I don't want the stress of owning a business.

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Speaker 1: She's just not interested in. My son's the opposite. So

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Speaker 1: the idea, the truth is for some of these players,

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Speaker 1: let's be honest. Players know. I mean, you go to

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Speaker 1: Georgia and you're a wide receiver and your faith and

552
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Speaker 1: NFL guys in the secondary and at safety and you're

553
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Speaker 1: not getting open. You can figure out pretty quickly. I

554
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Speaker 1: can't beat my guys at Georgia and coverage. I'm probably

555
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Speaker 1: not an NFL guy, but I can make one hundred

556
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Speaker 1: and seventy five thousand dollars playing at Georgia. This is

557
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Speaker 1: top of the foot chain. You're probably comfortable, I think so.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if Kirby was criticizing him, but what

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Speaker 1: he's basically saying that every industry in America is like that.

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Speaker 1: Not everybody wants to put in seventy hours a week

561
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Speaker 1: and a lot of people get comfortable.

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Speaker 8: This is a tough one because let's be real, like,

563
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Speaker 8: do you want a ten year future in the NFL

564
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Speaker 8: or short shelf life injuries blah blah blah, or do

565
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Speaker 8: you want to say, I'm going to use football as

566
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Speaker 8: a tool to get me a degree, and oh, by

567
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Speaker 8: the way, I'm making two hundred thousand dollars a year

568
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Speaker 8: on the football team.

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Speaker 7: Like, I think that's probably the smart move, Colin. Let's

570
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Speaker 7: be real. You know, NFL shelf life, it's NFL.

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Speaker 1: Not for long.

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Speaker 8: You know some of these guys, I know Kirby's kind

573
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Speaker 8: of dinging them here, but I think it's smart business.

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Speaker 8: Can you imagine if you got out of college having

575
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Speaker 8: made two hundred thousand dollars a year.

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Speaker 7: That's a nest egg to start a business.

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Speaker 8: If you want me to move wherever you want to

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Speaker 8: work remotely travel, Like, I think it's really smart of

579
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Speaker 8: these guys to get comfortable making that money.

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Speaker 7: Maybe they don't all want the NFL.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's also a responsibility of the university to be prepared,

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Speaker 1: and so I am four players getting paid. I am

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Speaker 1: for the transfer portal, but I am a believer that

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Speaker 1: LSU and USC and Colorado jumped into that swimming pool

585
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Speaker 1: head first, and they've all underachieved. I mean, Colorado got better,

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Speaker 1: but a lot of that's been a little bit of hype.

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Speaker 1: Is I would use great descriptions. I mean, Georgia, the

588
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Speaker 1: state of Georgia. You could just recruit the state of

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Speaker 1: Georgia and Florida and that's it, and you could have

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Speaker 1: a team. So I contend you should still seventy five

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Speaker 1: to eighty percent of your players should be high school players. Really, yeah,

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Speaker 1: And that's what Notre Dame's doing, and Notre Dame hasn't

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Speaker 1: been this good in ten years a minute.

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Speaker 8: But then we saw what TCU a couple of years ago,

595
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Speaker 8: where they had, like PLF the starting lineup was transfer

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Speaker 8: portal guys and they make.

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Speaker 7: A run of the playoff. And then I think we

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Speaker 7: saw that lot Indiana.

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Speaker 1: You know, but Indiana was a fraud. It's not sustainable.

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Speaker 7: They made a playoff.

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Speaker 1: If you're a coach, at off them and then we're humiliated.

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Speaker 1: I mean, great, but there's a there's a ceiling and

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Speaker 1: a lack of sustainability. On bringing in seventeen to twenty

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Speaker 1: four players a year from the from the portal.

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Speaker 8: I'm telling you right now, this will happen this year.

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Speaker 8: Texas Tech will be a juggernaut. They will be awesome

607
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Speaker 8: in the Big twelve. They will put up great numbers

608
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Speaker 8: in a record and they'll probably make the playoff. And

609
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Speaker 8: other coaches are gonna miss the playoff okay, and their

610
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Speaker 8: boosters are gonna say, hey, how the hell is Texas

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Speaker 8: Tech and.

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Speaker 7: Where are you? Why aren't you there?

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Speaker 1: And you're if you put if you put Texas Tech

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Speaker 1: in the SEC and you put Texas Tech into Big ten,

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Speaker 1: they wouldn't because after a one game losing streak, all

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Speaker 1: the I gotta get mine portal guys would the chemistry,

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Speaker 1: because Texas Tech has talent. You cannot bring in thirty

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Speaker 1: five new guys, pay them all. Half the roster makes nothing.

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Speaker 1: Half the roster is rich, and think we gotta have

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Speaker 1: great chemistry. If you're winning in the crappy Big twelve,

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Speaker 1: then it's great. The minute you go to You're not

622
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Speaker 1: gonna lose any games in the Big twelve. You put

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Speaker 1: them in the SEC or Big ten and they go

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Speaker 1: to George and get rolled and everybody's finger pointing on

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Speaker 1: the flight back, and then you play the next week,

626
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Speaker 1: go to LSU and get rolled again and the whole

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Speaker 1: locker room inmploy.

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Speaker 8: That's too many ifs, Colin again, look at the boosters.

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Speaker 8: They are going to look at some of these programs

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Speaker 8: coming out of nowhere with twenty transfer portal guys and

631
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Speaker 8: say why aren't we there? And they're gonna want to

632
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Speaker 8: go to their coach and the coach is gonna get

633
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Speaker 8: on the hot seat for not getting there.

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Speaker 7: I'm just telling you it's a weird time. I love

635
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Speaker 7: it personally.

636
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Speaker 8: And what's the same if you don't have a plan,

637
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:33,280
Speaker 8: plan to fail. And we've seen that at Clemson with

638
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Speaker 8: your guy Dabo. He said, we don't need this portal.

639
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 8: And guess what, they're not reaching the highs they should.

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Speaker 8: Everyone else around them is leveling up.

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Speaker 1: Correct Well, they'll be in the national championship discussion. This

642
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 1: is They've got a they have maybe the I think

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Speaker 1: they have the second or third best quarterback. They have

644
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Speaker 1: sixteen returning starters. Clemson's got a week schedule out, They've

645
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Speaker 1: got a game against I think LSU early. They have

646
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Speaker 1: to go face Belichick in Carolina. But Clemson is gonna

647
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Speaker 1: win ten plus games. They're going to be in the playoff.

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Speaker 1: I guarantee you you guarantees and oh absolutely, they're making

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Speaker 1: the play.

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Speaker 8: The social media team get that Clemson guaranteed in the play. Yeah,

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Speaker 8: that's bold in the acc.

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Speaker 1: Jmckle the news, Well, that's the news, and thanks for

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Speaker 1: stopping by the herd Line News. By the way, Bradley Beal,

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Speaker 1: who was it just didn't work in Phoenix, has agreed

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Speaker 1: to a contract buy out. The Sun's bought him out.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna go play for the Clippers. So uh, James

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Speaker 1: harden Kawhi, Leonard Bradley Beal, I don't.

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Speaker 7: Know, Wait a minute, he's going to the Clippers for sure.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what it says here for Oh no, that's.

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Speaker 7: A huge loss for the Clip. Clippers are betting the

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Speaker 7: Lakers right now.

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Speaker 1: You think Bradley Beal makes that big of a difference.

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Speaker 8: Bradley Beal, James harden Kawhi, Leonard Zubac, they got a

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Speaker 8: good bench.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that just screams great in May and June, well

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Speaker 1: to be great Bradley Beal and Phoenix. It was a disaster.

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Speaker 1: He couldn't stay healthy.

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Speaker 7: It was a disaster that they were garbage. They recycled

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Speaker 7: their coaches.

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Speaker 1: I don't I don't have to read in. It would

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Speaker 1: have slapped me in the face for two years. It

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Speaker 1: was a disaster.

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Speaker 7: I can't believe He's definitely.

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Speaker 1: Nothing subtle or nuanced about Bradley Beal's Phoenix stay.

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Speaker 7: It was awful.

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Speaker 8: But reminder, Bradley Beal at fifty million a year with

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Speaker 8: the Suns ain't great. Bradley Beal at five million dollars

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Speaker 8: a year for the Clippers might be one of the

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Speaker 8: best deals in the league.

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Speaker 7: Colin, how did it?

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Speaker 1: N Just ask yourself, does this sound like a championship team,

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Speaker 1: James Harden? Because in championship team you have to be

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Speaker 1: available and good in May in June Kawhi Leonard, James Harden,

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Speaker 1: Bradley Beal. I really if I had told you a year.

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Speaker 7: Ago, Colin, does this sound like an NBA Finals team?

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Speaker 8: Tyrese Haliburton, Pascal Siakam and Andrew Nemhard they.

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Speaker 7: Went to Game seven of the final?

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Speaker 1: You know what I would have said, Yeah, they do, actually,

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Speaker 1: because they made the Eastern Conference Finals last two years ago.

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Speaker 1: So I would have said in the awful East. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I would have said they're a viable finals but by

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Speaker 1: the way, you picked them to beat Cleveland.

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Speaker 8: I d I liked them, but again I said a

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Speaker 8: year ago, like now this time you're saying, I'm just

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Speaker 8: telling you the Clippers are probably the second or third.

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Speaker 7: Best team in the West with this deal. Addition, no,

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Speaker 7: you're not. Vie Beal.

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Speaker 8: Oh my gosh, okay, all right, five million dollars a

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Speaker 8: year for a starting shooting guard.

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Speaker 1: He has not played over sixty games in six years.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, that's an issue health and availabilities and an issue.

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Speaker 7: But it's like Denver Houston paper clips. And then okay,

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Speaker 7: see damn the Lakers.

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Speaker 1: Are so you got Kawhi, Leonard, Bradley Beal coin flip

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Speaker 1: if they're available on any given night. And James Harden,

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Speaker 1: who's going to make the Hall of Fame, But have

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Speaker 1: you ever trusted him in May?

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Speaker 8: What about your guy Tyron lu two coaches on that staff,

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Speaker 8: they are probably doing cartwheels right now that they stole

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Speaker 8: Bradley Beal.

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Speaker 7: How did Lebron and Luca not be like bro come

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Speaker 7: to the Lakers? What a disaster? Oh my gosh. Rob

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Speaker 7: Palika put him on the hot seat.

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Speaker 1: The hell I can't believe. Did your TV go out?

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Speaker 1: Did you not get Suns games? Did your NBA pass

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Speaker 1: not shot like blackout? Shoot some Bradley bil had a

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Speaker 1: good Ye, he's got the reason the Suns were a

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Speaker 1: dumpster fire. Listen, just because you get a deal on

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Speaker 1: a used car doesn't make it a new car. It's

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Speaker 1: still a used car I bought. I bought a nineteen

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Speaker 1: seventy eight Fiat for one hundred and eighty bucks. It's

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Speaker 1: a nineteen seventy eight Fiat. It's not getting younger.

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Speaker 8: You sound like a guy tolation drives new cars. Give

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Speaker 8: me a good used car the millionaire next door.

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Speaker 1: Baby.

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Speaker 7: Geez, what a steal that is for the Clippers.

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Speaker 1: The Clippers. Let me check this out. Yeah, they were

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Speaker 1: the oldest team in the league last season. Okay, Bradley

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Speaker 1: Beal's done something, taking the Golden Girls and saying, let's

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Speaker 1: add Charleston Heston or something like, get a little younger.

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Speaker 8: The league's getting younger. They just got older girls. That's

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Speaker 8: classic you seventies baseball. Charlton Heston, Golden Girls.

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Speaker 1: Time out. They they didn't they just move Norman Powell.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, they lost Norman Powell got off his contract, so.

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Speaker 1: I don't have Norman Powell, but I've got Bradley Beal.

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Speaker 7: Was that a downgrade?

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Speaker 1: Norman pal is pretty good good. He's a good player,

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Speaker 1: and he by the way he's he plays, by the way.

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Speaker 8: The Clippers didn't they push Denver to seven games in

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Speaker 8: the opening round.

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Speaker 7: I'm pretty sure they did.

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Speaker 8: Your boy Jokic could barely get by these beat up Clippers.

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Speaker 1: I think you you kind of glazed over the in

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Speaker 1: the first round. This is a big one series in

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Speaker 1: the first round.

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Speaker 7: You wait a minute.

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Speaker 8: Two years, eleven million dollars for Bradley Beal, a three

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Speaker 8: time All Star who's probably gonna shoot forty percent from

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Speaker 8: time out.

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Speaker 1: Norman Powell shot forty two percent from threes last year. Contract,

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Speaker 1: Younger and healthier, better defender, more available. He was good.

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Speaker 1: No denying it, all right, It's the Herd.

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Speaker 5: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays

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Speaker 5: and noon Easter not a em Pacific Sunday.

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Speaker 8: On Fox, the indie Car series hits the streets of Toronto,

756
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Speaker 8: where the fastest man on Earth, Alex Pollo, looks to

757
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Speaker 8: continue his season for the Ages. Sunday Noon Eastern only

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Speaker 8: on Fox.

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Speaker 1: So it's been SCC media days. We've been talking about

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Speaker 1: the nil as. I can like something, but be care

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Speaker 1: you know, I like ice cream, you know I don't

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Speaker 1: want it for breakfast. I like the NIL. I'd be

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Speaker 1: very careful about just adding a bunch of transfer portal players.

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Speaker 1: Steve sarkohesion at Texas. Texas is the most well funded

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Speaker 1: program right now in the country. They got more money

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Speaker 1: than anybody. I remember before when Texas was approved to

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Speaker 1: go to the SEC. I remember saying on the air

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Speaker 1: I was at Fox. I said, they are going to

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Speaker 1: change that conference. And Nick Saban, Remember Nick Saban started

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Speaker 1: complaining about He was very vague, but he started complaining

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Speaker 1: about NIL. He saw it coming. Is it Alabama money?

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Speaker 1: Alabama's economy is not Texas's economy. Go look up their

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Speaker 1: GDPs Gross domestic product. There's a lot more money in

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Speaker 1: Texas than Bama. And Nick Saban saw it and got out.

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Speaker 1: Remember when Urban Meyer left Florida and all the Bama

776
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Speaker 1: fans were like, oh, he's afraid. He's afraid of Nick Saban.

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Speaker 1: Nick Saban was afraid of what he saw at Texas.

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Speaker 1: I remember one of Saban's last years when Bama faced

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Speaker 1: Texas and I remember watching the game and thinking, oh,

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Speaker 1: Texas has much bigger, stronger, faster players. Well, Nick Saban

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Speaker 1: saw that and he got into broadcasting. He saw it coming.

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Speaker 1: So here's Sark on Nia.

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Speaker 9: Well, one of the first things we do we don't

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Speaker 9: talk about NIL. We don't talk about NIL or revenue

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Speaker 9: sharing or publicity rights until the very end. And that

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Speaker 9: may hurt us on some kids. But if a kid

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Speaker 9: is coming to Texas for that reason, we don't want

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Speaker 9: them anyway.

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Speaker 1: So I think you got about five or six teams.

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Speaker 1: Here's my national championship bubble. I think Obama, Clemson, and

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Speaker 1: Notre Dame are really close. I like Clemson's coach and quarterback. Listen,

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Speaker 1: Penn State. Let let's let's talk Penn State. I think

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Speaker 1: Penn State and Texas are going to play for the

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Speaker 1: national championship. I think Penn State. First of all, they

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Speaker 1: went and post Ohio State's defensive coordinator, so Jim Knowles

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Speaker 1: from Ohio State. So they're going to their coaching staff.

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Speaker 1: Their coordinator staff is world class. I think Drew Aller

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Speaker 1: is going to be the second best quarterback in the

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Speaker 1: country to Arch Manning. Singleton the running back. Their running

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Speaker 1: backs are both pros, so I think State's offense is

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Speaker 1: going to be a machine. So I think they play

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Speaker 1: for the national championship. Drew Aller is the guy that

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Speaker 1: he improved his accuracy. I didn't like him two years ago.

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Speaker 1: I watched him last year and I was like, oh, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's a top that's a top ten pick in the draft.

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Speaker 1: I think Texas has improved every year under Steve Sarkeshan

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Speaker 1: arch Manning takes over at quarterback. They listen, They've got

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Speaker 1: five star recruits. Does Texas at eight different positions. It's

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Speaker 1: a star studded roster. I think arch Manning is really good,

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Speaker 1: so I think he's the one quarterback that will absolutely

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Speaker 1: go ahead of Drew Aller. So I have Texas and

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Speaker 1: Penn State. I also I'll put Ohio State in there.

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Speaker 1: They have Julian Sayan as a quarterback, California kid, five

814
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Speaker 1: star recruit. I haven't seen him play, but they have

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Speaker 1: the best offensive player in the country. The Buckeyes do

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Speaker 1: in Jeremiah Smith, and I think they have the best

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Speaker 1: defensive player in the country, Caleb Downs. I think Caleb

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Speaker 1: Downs would have gone number one or two last year

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Speaker 1: as a sophomore. I think he's just unbelievable, and they

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Speaker 1: just they recruit I mean Ryan Day, the critics the

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Speaker 1: Wolves are off him now because of the Natty win.

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Speaker 1: I also think Georgia can win the championship. I don't

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Speaker 1: know a ton about Gunner Stockton, the quarterback, but it's

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Speaker 1: a factory. Kirby Smart's a great coach. They've played. I mean,

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Speaker 1: they blew out Texas twice last year, so I just

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Speaker 1: have so much respect for the quality of athletes the

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Speaker 1: state of Georgia High School and Florida produce. I would

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Speaker 1: put Georgia in the national championship contention. I mean, they

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Speaker 1: kind of humiliated Texas twice, and I think Oregon is

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Speaker 1: in it. Dante Moore was a quarterback at UCLA. He transferred.

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Speaker 1: He it was a Michigan high school phenom. I think

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Speaker 1: he's really good. I think Dan Lanning's but an absolute

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Speaker 1: home run. As a coach. Lanning is better than I thought.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he came from Georgia. He was a defensive guy.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, really, I mean he was on Kirby smart staff.

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Speaker 1: How much coaching did he do? It was Kirby Smart's

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Speaker 1: defense he has been an absolute home run. They've got

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Speaker 1: a great linebacking corps, probably the best linebacking corps arguably

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Speaker 1: in college football. A couple All American candidates, great back

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Speaker 1: in in the secondary, so he's got they've got a

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Speaker 1: great back seven. And then I would put just outside Bama. Again,

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Speaker 1: Bama's really good. They got a receiver Ryan Williams that's insane,

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Speaker 1: and Kaylin de Bor is a great coach. I don't

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Speaker 1: know much about Tysimpson the quarterback. He's been sitting on

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Speaker 1: a bench for three years. I just don't know what

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Speaker 1: they are at quarterback. Kaitlin de Bor is a really

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Speaker 1: good quarterback coach, so I'm kind of guessing there Notre

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Speaker 1: Dame has a quarterback battle. I love their roster and

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Speaker 1: coaching staff, but again, I don't know what they are

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Speaker 1: at quarterback. Clemson, I know the quarterback sixteen starters, but

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Speaker 1: they haven't played in the portal at all, and I

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Speaker 1: just wonder if you put them up against Penn State,

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Speaker 1: Ohio State, Georgia, Texas, does Clemson have the athletes to

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Speaker 1: win a national compete against those guys. Acc is so

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Speaker 1: bad it's hard to tell, but I think there are

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Speaker 1: five teams that I just have more answers than questions.

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Speaker 8: I like No.

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Speaker 1: Dame and Bama a lot, but I just I got

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Speaker 1: to see their quarterback play because you know, Riley Leonard

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Speaker 1: look a lot like Josh Allen to me, so a

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Speaker 1: little bit of a drop off in quarterback play for

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Speaker 1: the fighting Irish Albert Bruers around the corner. Bradley Beal.

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