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Speaker 1: Hi, everybody, Welcome to Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com.

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Speaker 1: I am Mike Spofford and he is the one and

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Speaker 1: only Wes Hodkowits were coming to you here from our

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Speaker 1: studios at lambeau Field and West. On our last episode,

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Speaker 1: we spent a fair amount of time talking about some

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Speaker 1: of the comments Aaron Rodgers made at his locker following

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Speaker 1: the last public o t a practice of the spring.

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Speaker 1: But one area that he touched on that we didn't

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Speaker 1: quite get to was what he said about the Packers

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Speaker 1: young cornerbacks, specifically your Alexander Josh Jackson, the top two

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Speaker 1: draft picks, and with his tongue at least partly planted

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Speaker 1: in his cheek, he sort of tossed out a warning like, Hey,

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Speaker 1: I'm coming after you guys in training camp. This could

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Speaker 1: get pretty interesting in late July. What do you think?

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Speaker 1: This is the thing I enjoyed the most. As we're

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Speaker 1: getting done with the offseason program. You always think every

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Speaker 1: year about who's most excited about training camp. It says

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Speaker 1: probably a lot about your football team. When it's your

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Speaker 1: fourteenth year quarterback, is the one that is most excited

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Speaker 1: about the upcoming training camp? Aaron Rodgers without a shadow

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Speaker 1: of a doubt. I don't want to speak for you.

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Speaker 1: For me personally and all the years I've covered sports,

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Speaker 1: he's the most competitive person I've ever seen. I think

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Speaker 1: that goes almost without saying that I would, I would

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Speaker 1: have to agree. So, you know, there's a lot of

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Speaker 1: hoot and holler and going on over in the cornerbacks

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Speaker 1: and defensive backside of the locker room. Jo your Alexander

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Speaker 1: not short on confidence whatsoever. Josh Jackson not as vocal,

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Speaker 1: but you can tell a very confident individual as well.

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers is looking forward to this. And I'll say

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Speaker 1: this too. That competition, that's something I think we really

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Speaker 1: you need both of those two sides, offense defense, pushing

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Speaker 1: and pulling against each other. H Aaron Rodgers is going

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Speaker 1: to bring it. And the nice thing is, regardless of

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Speaker 1: how this turns out, those two young quarterbacks are going

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Speaker 1: to be going against the game's very best. There is

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Speaker 1: no better way to get ready for a season than

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Speaker 1: have that a kind of opportunity. Yeah, if you're Mike Petton,

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Speaker 1: you absolutely love the fact that your top two draft picks,

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Speaker 1: those two young cornerbacks on the defensive side are going

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Speaker 1: to be able to get ready for their rookie season

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Speaker 1: in their rookie training camp, going up against the best

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Speaker 1: quarterback in the league, and it's a it's an opportunity

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Speaker 1: for them that that they certainly don't take lightly. Alexander,

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Speaker 1: I believe it was the prior week he had an

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Speaker 1: interception against Rogers when we were there watching practice at

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Speaker 1: the at the public workout. But even he said he

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Speaker 1: took it with a grain assault. Hey, it's just practice.

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Speaker 1: I know, guys are working on stuff as far as

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Speaker 1: And Ahmad Thomas also had an interception during that practice,

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Speaker 1: and I think the jubilation and celebrations that happened afterwards.

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Speaker 1: They love it when they get Rogers they have, They

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Speaker 1: absolutely love it. There's a lot of entergy you there.

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Speaker 1: But he he's right, you do take it with a

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Speaker 1: grain assault, and one interception in one offseason program practice

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Speaker 1: does not make a career. However, and I wrote about

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Speaker 1: this an Insider inbox this week, Mike. That is the

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Speaker 1: thing that stands out to me though about Alexander. The

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Speaker 1: small things that you can actually take out of this

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Speaker 1: quick twitch and that interception that he had, uh seemed

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Speaker 1: like there's a little miscommunication there between Rogers and Geronto

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Speaker 1: to that and pick it off in a red zone period.

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Speaker 1: If this would have been a game simulation, that's a

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Speaker 1: potential pick six. That really impresses me because it shows

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Speaker 1: headiness there with a young player, and it also shows

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Speaker 1: the one thing you can't quite coach, which is even

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Speaker 1: if you see it, can you get to it? And

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Speaker 1: I think Alexander is shown he definitely has that kind

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Speaker 1: that was a perfect example of it. When you mentioned

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Speaker 1: One thing that I think is interesting about these two guys,

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Speaker 1: very differently in that respect. Alexander much more outgoing. He

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Speaker 1: He talked about himself in February as if he is

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Speaker 1: the best cornerback in this draft class, even though we

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Speaker 1: he said it. Since the beginning, I think there is

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Speaker 1: wanting to prove that he was the best cornerback, a

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Speaker 1: taken him in that spot, you know, with already having Alexander,

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Speaker 1: so with both of those young guys coming in, with

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Speaker 1: Tremon Williams, Devon House coming back, Quentin Rollins made it

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Speaker 1: They have fourteen guys I think I counted in the

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Speaker 1: in addition to the young guys they brought in. They

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Speaker 1: more cushion at that position. They accomplished that this summer.

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Speaker 1: Now the task for Alexander and Jackson is going to

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Speaker 1: showing that they can contribute right away, No question, I

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Speaker 1: bought it. With that, we'll go to a break back

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Speaker 1: with more on Packers unscripted right up to this Welcome

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Speaker 1: back to Packers unscripted Mike Spofford in this chair, Wes

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Speaker 1: Hodkowits and that one west last week another topic that

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Speaker 1: fashioned but we heard for the first time really since

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Speaker 1: he was hired from new defensive coordinator Mike Petton, and

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Speaker 1: we got a little bit of insight into his philosophy,

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Speaker 1: which also told us a little bit about how things

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Speaker 1: have gone this offseason, both in free agency and the

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Speaker 1: interesting thing that he said in talking about the pass rushes,

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Speaker 1: he values inside pass rush equally, if not more so,

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Speaker 1: obviously is the Clay Matthews and the Nick Perry's of

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Speaker 1: the world. But that inside pass rush, he's really building

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Speaker 1: this defense, building this past defense around collapsing the pocket,

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Speaker 1: isn't he He is? And when he said that, I

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Speaker 1: honestly was fist bumping a little bit, because I've been

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Speaker 1: trying to tell people this that since January, you know,

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Speaker 1: thinks of pass rush, they think abo outside linebackers, and rightly,

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Speaker 1: so I get that That's a big part of the equation.

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Speaker 1: But you gotta look, the only thing we have to

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Speaker 1: the fact that you had these transactions, you had these

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Speaker 1: tea leaves a little bit there. Mohammed Wilkerson getting added

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Speaker 1: What does that tell you? The fact that they drafted

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Speaker 1: This is a part of the plan. They aren't just

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Speaker 1: from certain areas. The Packers feel like if they have

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Speaker 1: the inside rush. The Packers went out, they got Wilkerson,

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Speaker 1: I say that time and time again. They feel like

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Speaker 1: interesting to see how this develops now, because what it

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Speaker 1: that one on one to get to the quarterback and

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Speaker 1: Mike Patton likes his chances with Kenny Clark, Mike Annals,

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Speaker 1: Mohammed Wilkerson in some combination, maybe two of them on

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Speaker 1: they're going to start to take that away. But then

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Speaker 1: that means you're outside guys absolutely have to be able

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Speaker 1: At the end of the day, West and I said

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Speaker 1: they have Matthews. Two first round picks have done in

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Speaker 1: ten SAX seasons. The one difference, because everybody talks about

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Speaker 1: don't care which way you break it down. He was

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Speaker 1: the difference maker. He's not here anymore. But trying to

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Speaker 1: And in the past, that's a lie that that that's

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Speaker 1: it's not it's not true. And I've said it time

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Speaker 1: and time again. I've covered this team when Desmond Moses

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Speaker 1: started six games at outside linebacker in two thousand twelve.

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Speaker 1: You've seen Frank Zambo starting on a Super Bowl team.

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Speaker 1: If those guys Gilbert Gilbert was the other guy was

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Speaker 1: I mean those guys are gonna fact during into this.

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Speaker 1: Kendall Donnerson coming in as well. They have a core there.

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Speaker 1: take guys out of their element a little bit, and

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Speaker 1: then the nice thing about it too, As Leans Kendricks said,

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Speaker 1: it's a day to get away from the practice field,

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Speaker 1: but sometimes can go a long way. For these guys,

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Speaker 1: it definitely can. With that, we're going to call it

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Speaker 1: a wrap on this edition of Packers Unscripted. Be sure

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Speaker 1: at Mike Spofford at Packers for the team account. Thanks

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