1 00:00:03,960 --> 00:00:06,560 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club flowing out of the backfield, 3 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 1: they flumbing down the sightline. He is Hanging with the Boys, 4 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:32,839 Speaker 1: presented by Wingstuff where flavor gets its wings. Welcome Cowboy Nation. 5 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:37,199 Speaker 1: You've had your sample size of Cowboys football last night. 6 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 1: I want to know how did it digest over the 7 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:42,840 Speaker 1: night for you guys. You're getting a live look at 8 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 1: Tostito's Plaza here in Frisco, Texas, at the Beautiful Star 9 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:52,559 Speaker 1: in Frisco, here here in the SWBC Mortgage Studios, and 10 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 1: as as we always say about this time, you are 11 00:00:56,760 --> 00:01:00,080 Speaker 1: rocking with the Bestness is hanging with the boys. And 12 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 1: I am with my gang today here in Frisco, and 13 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:06,959 Speaker 1: we're gonna break down for you guys all thing Hall 14 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:10,480 Speaker 1: of Fame game from last night. I am with my 15 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:14,040 Speaker 1: with my guys that get Kurt Daniels and that's not 16 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 1: Isaiah stand back, that is Danny Serek and he is 17 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:21,199 Speaker 1: Jesse Holley. Gang, how are y'all doing today? Listen before 18 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 1: anyone speaks, We're getting right into this because um, I 19 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 1: needed my flowers today, Okay, I need some credit throwing 20 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 1: my way today. I'm not gonna blame you so much 21 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 1: so Danny, because you might have not been here. You 22 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 1: might have not been here. Okay, she was she was here. Yeah, 23 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 1: you know where I'm going. I'm curious off the gate. 24 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 1: There was a bold prediction made by me on this 25 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 1: show at the start of training camp. Any money, anyone 26 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 1: care to reflect on that boat prediction that I made 27 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 1: a hint And it was during the State of the 28 00:01:55,520 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 1: Cowboys one set owner of the football team, Oh the 29 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 1: ring of Honor I made. I told you, I told y'all, 30 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 1: don't fall for the banana and the tailpipe. He got 31 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 1: up on stage and he did all those Jerry popping 32 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:17,359 Speaker 1: tears and you all like crying, And I told y'all, 33 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:21,519 Speaker 1: I said, mark my words between before the end of 34 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 1: training camp, don't be shocked if you hear that Jimmy 35 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 1: Johnson will be going into the Ring of honor. Yeah, 36 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:29,960 Speaker 1: And some of y'all kind of might have casually rod 37 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 1: jaws like, oh you go Jesse again making those bold predictions. 38 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:37,359 Speaker 1: But last night on the broadcast, you heard that very 39 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 1: said owner of this here football team say what he's 40 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 1: going into the Ring of honor? And let me say this, 41 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:49,799 Speaker 1: like last night my show was done. Y'all talk unbelievable, Jesse, 42 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 1: how do you start out day? I'm telling you. I 43 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 1: was driving here today, I was like, somebody better, No, 44 00:02:57,280 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 1: nobody has to get I'm taking the cray credit. You 45 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:06,240 Speaker 1: said it, and that Jimmy's going into the Ring of Honor. 46 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:11,359 Speaker 1: Absolutely he is, And that was announced on Fox yesterday, 47 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 1: with owner Jerry Jones saying that this year, don't we 48 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:18,520 Speaker 1: don't know what day or which game that's gonna be. 49 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 1: I just think I don't. I don't. I have to 50 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 1: be honest. I was not listening live because I was 51 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:27,360 Speaker 1: hosting the pregame show, which tells me that maybe the 52 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 1: three of you have not gone back to watch it 53 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 1: yet if you were all watching that. But that's okay, 54 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 1: you're watching the Fox Show and said that's okay. But 55 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 1: earlier Jerry Jones has said that probably not twenty twenty one. 56 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 1: Doesn't want to take away from his Hall of Fame 57 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 1: induction year, but we'll see that could be up in there. 58 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 1: One of the one of the highlights of the night 59 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 1: was Jimmy saying when I while I'm alive, So that 60 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 1: was just awesome. And again star stud at night, all 61 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 1: of the greats, the guys that are being inducted into 62 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame, like Steve Atwater, one of my 63 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 1: favorite players of all time, but also our guys Captain Crash. 64 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 1: Cliff Harris is going into the Hall of Fame, Jimmy 65 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 1: Johnson is going into the Hall of Fame, and the 66 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 1: original eighty eight Drew Pearson's going into the Hall of Fame. 67 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 1: So all of the Cowboys, all of the nostalgia, all 68 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Still is all that it was there on 69 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 1: tilt for us to witness last night, and look, the 70 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 1: Cowboys lost to the Pittsburgh Still is sixteen to three. 71 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 1: Not a lot to be made of the game. I mean, 72 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 1: we talked about evaluations and what we could pull from 73 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 1: this game. Gang, I'm gonna open the floor on this 74 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 1: to get some just clarity, please, you know, give me 75 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:42,039 Speaker 1: some clarity on what I saw. I'm talking about digesting 76 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 1: this the way you were talking before the show. I'm 77 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 1: wondering if you got a stomachache over there. I got toms. 78 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 1: I got toms in my pocket. You can hear them 79 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:53,359 Speaker 1: rattling right now. It was. Look, I'm gonna open the 80 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 1: floor with you guys, because I want to know how 81 00:04:55,920 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 1: you felt, Danny Ladies. First, I don't know. I didn't 82 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 1: love a lot of what I saw, but I don't 83 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 1: know how concerned I am of Like the first preseason game, 84 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 1: we didn't see a lot of starters, and of course 85 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 1: that's still important because you want to see the depth 86 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:11,679 Speaker 1: and the backups and what you have on this roster. 87 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 1: I think it was really great to see Micah Parsons 88 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 1: have a good few snaps that he played the fumble recovery. 89 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 1: Of course, you want to see your first round draft pick, 90 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 1: excuse me, you know, play well, first chance he gets. 91 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 1: I loved seeing Lyle Collins back on the field again, 92 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 1: not a lot of snaps, but just seeing him out 93 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:33,719 Speaker 1: on the field was phenomenal. So there are parts that 94 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 1: I feel pretty good about in terms of the progress 95 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 1: and where we're moving forward. But there's also a lot 96 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 1: of parts that really worry me. Agreed, Yeah, I totally 97 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 1: agree with that. I mean, there were some highlights, some 98 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:50,360 Speaker 1: guys like Parsons was probably the highlight as far as 99 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:52,719 Speaker 1: what we were looking for and hoping to see. Really 100 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 1: like what he kind of showed right off the bat, 101 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 1: But I don't you know, it's hard to say this 102 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 1: first preseason game, Hall of Famer, Hall of Fame game 103 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:03,719 Speaker 1: is You're never gonna get much out of it. I 104 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:06,279 Speaker 1: don't think, and I don't. It's hard for me to 105 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 1: say one way or the other is this good? Is 106 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 1: it's bad because they're just shaking the rust off really 107 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 1: and so but you know, first impression, yeah, there's a lot. 108 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:17,840 Speaker 1: There are a lot of concerns there, you know. But 109 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 1: I'm trying not to get two worked up about it. 110 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 1: Given given the situation in the game, are you You're 111 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:30,279 Speaker 1: so good? You are good, so good? And I promise 112 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:33,920 Speaker 1: I won't still get thunder this time. I will say 113 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:41,040 Speaker 1: this um our backup quarterbacks situation is is bad. And 114 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 1: I know that Garrett give it played decently, but we 115 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:49,040 Speaker 1: can't go onto twenty twenty one with that situation like that. 116 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:53,919 Speaker 1: We'll talk more into it about the whole doc in 117 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:58,040 Speaker 1: the shoulder situation, but we need to really take an 118 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 1: in depth look of where we're going to go as 119 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:05,480 Speaker 1: far as backup quarterback that is. It was on display 120 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 1: last night and I get it. We had about sixteen 121 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 1: players that didn't travel and anytime you don't have your 122 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 1: backup guys thrive when they have the elite players around them. 123 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 1: When you have to have backup guys do starter type 124 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 1: things as when you ask them to do a little 125 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 1: bit too much, right, It's like it's like asking a 126 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 1: fish to climb a tree like a monkey. You're just 127 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 1: asking me to do a little bit too much out 128 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 1: of my element. So, not having all of the starters 129 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 1: there and to play a piece instead of playing the 130 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 1: entire role, a lot of these guys are playing kind 131 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 1: of almost fish out of water. Yes it's still football, 132 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 1: Yes they're still playing that position, but it's different when 133 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 1: I'm the nose tackle and I'm rushing up the field 134 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 1: and the officer line have to worry about Tank and 135 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 1: Randy Gregory opposed to some other guys who we don't 136 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 1: even know, right, and that gives you a different look. 137 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 1: Or when I'm you know, when I'm a dB and 138 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 1: and the rush is different, or my secondary is different, 139 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 1: and it gives it a different look. But just one 140 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 1: of the perspectives I saw, and a lot of people 141 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 1: are looking at that and it's probably low hanging fruit 142 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 1: for me to even grab it. But the quarterback, the 143 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 1: backup quarterback position, he isn't he isn't in the Dallas 144 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 1: Cowboys uniform right now, Why what makes you say that? 145 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 1: I mean, why why would a guy off the street 146 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 1: be better than I mean, because right now, I don't 147 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 1: want to see much out there that would be that 148 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 1: much better than once you got with Gilbert, who already 149 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 1: knows the system. And that's the thing is when you 150 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:33,839 Speaker 1: have guys who already know the system, and it seems 151 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 1: like you're not seeing any progression, and when it seems 152 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 1: like you're still not seeing guys take the next step, 153 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:41,079 Speaker 1: but I don't even know what the real next because like, 154 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 1: if you're a backup, that next step is probably a starter, right, 155 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 1: But just to look different, like just to command the offense, 156 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 1: make the right throws, make the right reads, complete the 157 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:50,439 Speaker 1: right passes, those type of things. You just kind of like, well, 158 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 1: how long will it take for you guys to kind of, 159 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 1: you know, get on get on pace with doing that 160 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 1: at a at a at a decent clip. I'm not 161 00:08:56,559 --> 00:08:58,319 Speaker 1: a can do to the the league clip, but doing at 162 00:08:58,320 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 1: a decent clip. But we're able to put you in 163 00:08:59,920 --> 00:09:01,320 Speaker 1: the game and maybe win a game or two if 164 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:03,080 Speaker 1: you need to. So we're gonna we're gonna get into 165 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 1: the backup quarterback discussion and because that's gonna take up 166 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 1: the whole podcast when when we go there. But you know, 167 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 1: just general assessment for me, and we asked these questions 168 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 1: in the last podcast about what did you need to 169 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 1: see from the defense some of the questions that needed 170 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 1: to be answered. Uh. Energy, you guys talked about that 171 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 1: guys pursuing the ball, you know, all eleven to the ball. Uh, 172 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:32,320 Speaker 1: seeing how they look up front? I didn't see. I 173 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 1: didn't see a lot of that. You know. Michael Parsons, Yes, 174 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 1: shine a bright spot on that pick because I think 175 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:40,840 Speaker 1: he is that he showed us in just a little 176 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:44,080 Speaker 1: sample size that we got, he is that. Some of 177 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:46,080 Speaker 1: the other guys that I was looking forward to get 178 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 1: a feel for where they were, guys like bash them, Um, 179 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:53,960 Speaker 1: guys like Watkins. I didn't see it. Urban, I didn't 180 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 1: see it. I didn't see the push. We got gashed 181 00:09:57,000 --> 00:10:00,560 Speaker 1: in the run. Last year Pittsburgh opened up. They had 182 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:05,960 Speaker 1: some quality runs from Naja Harris all right, Um the 183 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 1: fumble that Michael cover. Great. We led the NFL in 184 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:14,559 Speaker 1: turnover and turnovers there for a quarter. We were there 185 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 1: for one quarter and then all of a sudden it 186 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 1: was gone. But then you start to say, okay, wow, 187 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:22,079 Speaker 1: I like that, you know. But all in all, and 188 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 1: I'm just talking about just from the defensive side of 189 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:27,200 Speaker 1: the ball. I didn't see the push. I did not 190 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 1: see I didn't see ends. I didn't see any pressure 191 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 1: on quarterbacks things that we're looking for for our new guys. 192 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 1: You know. I did see Darren's Armstrong set the edge 193 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 1: a few times. Those were good, great things. Um. I 194 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 1: saw our rookies with both Hannon he did some good 195 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 1: things and then he did some bad things. But that's 196 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 1: what you expect out of a rookie in preseason. I 197 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 1: don't want to overreact about these things. But the things 198 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 1: that I was looking for last night, the questions that 199 00:10:57,480 --> 00:11:00,680 Speaker 1: I had, I just added another question mark my question 200 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:04,320 Speaker 1: because my questions still have questions, and I still want 201 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 1: to know who and where is this team right now. 202 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 1: But Danny, let me ask you, do you have the 203 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 1: stats from last night so that we can at least 204 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:15,080 Speaker 1: deal with the numbers from what happened last night? Sure well, 205 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 1: Cowboys finished with three points, obviously struggled in the red zone. 206 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh sixteen total yards, Dallas three hundred and thirty one 207 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh two fifty rushing yards Dallas one oh nine Pittsburgh, 208 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:30,080 Speaker 1: seventy six passing yards for the Cowboys, two hundred and 209 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:33,760 Speaker 1: forty nine one hundred and seventy four for Pittsburgh. Turnovers 210 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 1: three for the Cowboys, one for the Steelers. Thirdy down 211 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 1: third down conversion seven for sixteen for the Cowboys, five 212 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 1: of thirteen for Pittsburgh. Time of possession thirty minutes five 213 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 1: seconds for Dallas, twenty nine minutes forty eight seconds for Pittsburgh. 214 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:53,720 Speaker 1: So I mean, these are stat lines that we've become 215 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:57,160 Speaker 1: used to, you know, dominate, not even dominating time of possession, 216 00:11:57,360 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 1: but having stats that racking up the duet and not scoring, 217 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:05,960 Speaker 1: and then the turnover differential not going in our favor, 218 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 1: and so you know, those little things. Again, heckmunk, don't overreact, 219 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 1: talk yourself down. But I did see some good things. 220 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 1: There was some players that I was able to look 221 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 1: at and say, oh, yeah, that guy is somebody that 222 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 1: we definitely definitely need to pay attention to. And that's 223 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 1: Maurice Kennedy. I'll just start with him. Maurice Kennedy, to me, 224 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:30,840 Speaker 1: showed that if he had played last year then I 225 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:33,080 Speaker 1: understand he opted out for health reasons, had a baby 226 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 1: and all of that, but if he had been on 227 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 1: this roster last year, we might we might have seen 228 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:43,200 Speaker 1: some improvements from a defense that struggled mightily because of 229 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 1: how tough he played last night. Anyone that you came 230 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:49,319 Speaker 1: away saying that this is my guy, I'm sorry real quick, 231 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 1: I'm going to take the credit because you remember last week, 232 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:53,680 Speaker 1: earlier in the week, when we talked about a player 233 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:56,960 Speaker 1: that you know, maybe third or four string that could 234 00:12:56,960 --> 00:13:00,040 Speaker 1: be making a push. My player was Maurice Kennedy. So 235 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:04,960 Speaker 1: now get your flowers, get your get your flowers. I 236 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 1: love it. Get you. This is just how we're doing Friday. 237 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:11,080 Speaker 1: This is Friday. This, this is flowers Friday. You pick 238 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:21,440 Speaker 1: your own flowers a day. Where are we at players, 239 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:23,520 Speaker 1: players that that that you saw it last night that 240 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:25,560 Speaker 1: you were saying, hey, this is our guy. You know. 241 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 1: I liked what I saw from Um from the cornerback 242 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:33,440 Speaker 1: na right. Um. I like what I saw from National. 243 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 1: I like the way that he responded after giving up 244 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 1: the big play. Um. I like his physicalness. He came up. 245 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 1: It's not afraid to tackle. Right. He showed some some 246 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 1: some physicality. I do think with him being such a 247 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 1: large corner right, six foot three, six foot four, that 248 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:51,840 Speaker 1: transition right, that ability to turn and run. Now he 249 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:54,320 Speaker 1: once he gets going, he can stay with you. But 250 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 1: when you have to deal, you're not gonna deal with 251 00:13:56,559 --> 00:14:01,319 Speaker 1: a six foot five Chase Claypool every single week. You're 252 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:03,560 Speaker 1: gonna deal with some of those smaller, shiftier guys. So 253 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 1: what happens when those guys turn the corner and get 254 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 1: going and put the brakes on? Are you able to 255 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:10,319 Speaker 1: stop and transition, come back and make the tackle? And 256 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 1: what happens when you go up against to Tom Brady 257 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:14,960 Speaker 1: and he knows that you are rookie and he knows 258 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 1: the place that you struggle at and he attacks you 259 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 1: every single time down the field? Right, where does your 260 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 1: confidence go? Then? How do you respond on certain situations 261 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 1: like that? So it was good to see him have 262 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 1: the big play giving up against Claypool and then respond 263 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 1: by still sticking his nose in there, coming up, making tackles, 264 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 1: being physical, and he'll learn the growing pains will happen 265 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 1: throughout the season. But he was another one that showed 266 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 1: that you know what I'm hear me like, don't don't 267 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 1: just forget about me. Don't write me off and say, 268 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 1: oh Anthony Brown and say you know Kelvin Joseph and 269 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 1: and and T Digs. But I'm in that mix too, offensively. 270 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 1: Rico Dowell out of the backfield looked good, shifty, quick, 271 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 1: which he's had in the past. I mean, he's not 272 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 1: a rookie by any means, but I thought that he 273 00:14:57,600 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 1: looked good and then kind of on the same page 274 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 1: of National right of not necessarily a great start, but 275 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 1: working through that mentally and physically and having a better 276 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 1: finish to the game. Connor Williams after the starters came 277 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 1: out after the first few snaps and centered entirely. Beotish 278 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:14,680 Speaker 1: was done for the game. They moved Williams from left 279 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 1: guard to center, and they put Connor mcgoverned in at 280 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 1: left guard. So now we've been seeing the last couple 281 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 1: of weeks at Connor Williams, which we've kind of been 282 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 1: wondering the last couple of years. He's now getting those 283 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 1: backup reps under as center, and he had a few 284 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 1: errant snaps early on when that, you know, change happened, 285 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 1: But then I thought he kind of got his footing 286 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 1: played better after you know those few mental errors, physical errors, whatnot, 287 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 1: and so kind of on that same realm of national right. 288 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 1: I thought Connor Williams recovered well when he moved to center. Yeah, 289 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 1: the guy that kind of stood up for me and 290 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 1: the fact that I had. He wasn't on my radar 291 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 1: at all. I didn't expect to see anything from him. 292 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 1: Was this fullback all in Nulla or butcher and his name? 293 00:15:56,360 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 1: I apologize, but he who would have thought he'd Paul 294 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 1: in a seventeen yard reception and he had a couple 295 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:05,400 Speaker 1: of nice little blocks in there. Maybe he's making a 296 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 1: case of cowboys or keep a fullback. I don't know 297 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 1: his size, if he can do that kind of stuff, 298 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 1: you know, the world beater, not necessarily, but he was 299 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 1: a guy who had no clue. I mean I wasn't 300 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 1: looking for him at all. I'm like, wow, where'd this 301 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 1: come from? Kurt? That is a That is awesome that 302 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 1: you picked him, because he was my second player on 303 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 1: that list, because of that seventeen yard game that little 304 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 1: will route Gilbert found him out of the backfield. You know, 305 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 1: a guy that did great on special teams last night 306 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 1: as well. So yeah, I mean, will they keep a 307 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 1: fullback they hadn't in the past, but I think if 308 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 1: he keeps making those strides and special teams, and you know, 309 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 1: he would be a guy that I'd definitely be pulling 310 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 1: for to make this make the fifty three. But also 311 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 1: the questions about dan Quinn's defense. I know we kind 312 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 1: of talked about this a little bit, but where's that. 313 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 1: Were there any improvements for you guys that you saw 314 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 1: last night, anything that you could point to this is 315 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 1: I that wrinkle was a little different anything that you 316 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:04,440 Speaker 1: saw last night. I just see more of a combined 317 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:06,879 Speaker 1: speed to the football, Like they looked like they were 318 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:10,439 Speaker 1: running around flying physically. That that part stood out to 319 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:12,439 Speaker 1: me early on, especially when you had the guys in 320 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 1: there and that first series when you had Jalen and 321 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 1: you had Parsons in there. The speed it translated. It 322 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:20,240 Speaker 1: looked like they took that stuff from practice and was 323 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:24,480 Speaker 1: flying around to the football. And you know, honestly, defensively, 324 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 1: when you're playing eleven guys to the football and you're 325 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:30,240 Speaker 1: playing with speed and you're playing with that verocity, you 326 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:33,360 Speaker 1: find the football and so like even Parsons fumble pick up, 327 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:36,159 Speaker 1: it's because you had a bunch of guys coming to 328 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 1: the football, the football finds energy, right, and so if 329 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:41,200 Speaker 1: you're on the positive side of that and you're always 330 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:42,680 Speaker 1: in the right place because you got a bunch of 331 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:45,159 Speaker 1: guys coming to the football, good things happened to you. 332 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 1: And I thought defensively, especially early on, I don't really 333 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:50,199 Speaker 1: want to get into the second half, when you know, 334 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 1: things kind of went really downhill just with the players. 335 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:55,360 Speaker 1: But early on you were able to see that that 336 00:17:55,560 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 1: energy just be something that was worried all that when 337 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:03,480 Speaker 1: the first team unit was out there, most of the 338 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 1: first the starters, you're you're starting linebackers are in there. 339 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 1: That Pittsburgh's first drive, they were kind of moving the 340 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 1: ball and they it wasn't like a force fumble. They've 341 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 1: muffed a you know, a handoff. I mean, was that 342 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 1: concerning to you all at all? I only say no 343 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:23,960 Speaker 1: in the sense of, like, it's still so early in 344 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 1: the preseason. Um, I'm not gonna say this necessarily true 345 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:31,199 Speaker 1: because I'm obviously not a player on that team, but 346 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:32,639 Speaker 1: I wondered too, Like, you know, I'm sure they have 347 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 1: the same mentality for any game, but like it's it's 348 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:37,000 Speaker 1: still the Hall of Fame game. It's not even obviously 349 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:39,119 Speaker 1: every game is important for film and showing why you 350 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:40,959 Speaker 1: deserve to be on this roster, and I get that. 351 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:44,120 Speaker 1: I just think that it nothing of this of this 352 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:46,399 Speaker 1: game is really so pressing to me. Of like, let 353 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:49,200 Speaker 1: let's sound the alarm, like we need to start freaking out, 354 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:52,240 Speaker 1: Like sure, I think they have a better idea of improvement. 355 00:18:52,640 --> 00:19:00,080 Speaker 1: What you're freaking out bringing out, I'm breaking out. And 356 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:02,879 Speaker 1: what I'm figured out about is just some of the 357 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:06,080 Speaker 1: back to depth. I don't see it. We need it, 358 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:08,119 Speaker 1: you know, guys that are gonna be coming in and 359 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 1: these sub packages. I didn't see the penetration from you know, 360 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:15,639 Speaker 1: getting up the field, stopping the run, getting pressure on 361 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:17,880 Speaker 1: the quarterback. We had none of that. I mean they 362 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:19,719 Speaker 1: had their second and third guys and we had our 363 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 1: second and third guys and competing against one another, and 364 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 1: I still saw none of that. So I am, I am. Look, 365 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 1: I'm gonna pull pull back a little bit. I'm gonna 366 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:33,680 Speaker 1: I'm gonna wait on Saturday because I think Saturday we 367 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:36,359 Speaker 1: get more of an assessment of what our number ones 368 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:38,199 Speaker 1: are gonna do. Mean, while let me just say this 369 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:40,680 Speaker 1: on Dallas Cowboys dot com, We're gonna have our guys 370 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 1: down in Oxnard for the practice between the Cowboys and 371 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:47,679 Speaker 1: the Rams, and so guys please tune in for that 372 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 1: because that's gonna be great competition battles going on. But 373 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:55,159 Speaker 1: I just didn't see it. I think I will be 374 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:58,879 Speaker 1: more concerned after the next preseason game against the Cardinals 375 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 1: on Friday the third teenth, because let's let's at least 376 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 1: give like the coaching staff. Maybe now they have a 377 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:08,439 Speaker 1: better idea of idea of what they need to focus on, 378 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:10,960 Speaker 1: maybe different drills or things. You know, now that they're 379 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 1: not just going against their own teammates. You know, they're 380 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:16,440 Speaker 1: out and pads, they're they're playing full speed. I would 381 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:18,480 Speaker 1: say I will start to get a little more nervous 382 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:21,200 Speaker 1: if it doesn't look that much better after their next 383 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 1: preseason game. And then again, I can't really ding a 384 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 1: guy like you know, bohand like, oh, he's not giving 385 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 1: what I need when I don't have the other guys 386 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:35,720 Speaker 1: around him. Like we people got so excited about Urban 387 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 1: coming in, like, oh, man, he's been a great run stopper. Yeah, 388 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 1: but people failed to realize that Urban was probably a 389 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 1: really good run stopper because they had to worry about 390 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 1: this other guy on the Khalil Man. Yeah, that you know, 391 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 1: it's like when you line up, you find out where 392 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:54,200 Speaker 1: Khalil Mack is at. Everybody like, you know, you break 393 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:57,400 Speaker 1: the huddle and you're looking around, where's where's fifty two? 394 00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 1: Let's find Khalil Mack. And so when you don't have 395 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:03,399 Speaker 1: those other guys around you that people have to worry about, 396 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 1: they don't got to swing the rotation till there double 397 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 1: that guy or do things differently. So now you're able 398 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 1: to have more winnable matchups on a down and down basis. 399 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 1: That's why I'm gonna say, like, just you can just 400 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:17,400 Speaker 1: come back in a little bit. Heck, you ain't gotta 401 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 1: you ain't gotta pan them just yet. Now, if we 402 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:22,399 Speaker 1: got Randy Gregory out there, and we got a tank 403 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:24,359 Speaker 1: out there, and we got all the guys out there, 404 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:26,120 Speaker 1: and they're out there playing some you know, two, three, 405 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:27,879 Speaker 1: four or five series and it look don't look like 406 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 1: it's supposed to. Look. Now, let's start having some patty, 407 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:32,480 Speaker 1: because these are the guys that we're actually going to, 408 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 1: you know, going into the fire with come September. A 409 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:39,399 Speaker 1: lot of these guys on the roster now and the 410 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 1: words like Magic Johnson. They ain't not gonna be there, right. 411 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:45,440 Speaker 1: But that's the hard thing because we're not even really 412 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:47,680 Speaker 1: going to get any sort of look of those players, 413 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:51,119 Speaker 1: those main starters coming off injury until the season opener, right, 414 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:53,640 Speaker 1: Like to Marcus Lawrence, We're not going to probably see 415 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:55,880 Speaker 1: a lot of Zach Martin or any more Tyrant Smith 416 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:57,960 Speaker 1: or Lyle Collins at this point in the game. So 417 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 1: it's gonna be hard to kind of gauge and really, 418 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:01,879 Speaker 1: you know what the Cowboys are going into their season 419 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 1: opener with, because we're not going to see those big 420 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 1: starters that the offenses or defenses have to game plan for. 421 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. We came out firing in this 422 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:12,160 Speaker 1: first segment. We're gonna step away and take a break. Now, 423 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 1: you guys know, in the second seg we always bring 424 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:18,400 Speaker 1: up the great Nate Newton. So will you see bells, lady, 425 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:20,680 Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen to stay with us. We'll be right 426 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:24,159 Speaker 1: back here on hanging with the boys. Honey, big news. 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Get yours today at Dallas Cowboys dot com, 466 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 1: slash tickets and welcome back to Hanging with the Boys. 467 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:49,840 Speaker 1: Here in the SWBC Mortgage Studios Peck Ma Harrison with 468 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 1: Danny Serect, Jesse Holly and the great Kurt Daniels, and 469 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:56,440 Speaker 1: we have been going over all of the action from 470 00:24:56,520 --> 00:25:00,520 Speaker 1: last night, and these guys have successfully talked me off 471 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 1: of the ledge and I feel comfortable now. I have 472 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:07,639 Speaker 1: my blanket, and you know, Jesse is you know, just 473 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 1: telling me heck my in abut okay, And I appreciate that. 474 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 1: But but guys, I think something that's going to get 475 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 1: my heart beat back. Racing is our next subject, and 476 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:21,640 Speaker 1: that is the backup quarterback position. So Kurt, since you're 477 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:27,399 Speaker 1: mister mellow yellow, you don't have a worried bowl in 478 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:30,879 Speaker 1: your body, let's just start with you, Kurt, tell me 479 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:34,960 Speaker 1: something good. Well, I guess I didn't. I didn't see 480 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:38,359 Speaker 1: as negative a picture as maybe Jesse did with Gilbert, 481 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 1: but I obviously don't know the ins and outs of 482 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:45,280 Speaker 1: football technique and all that. I guess I'm still on 483 00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 1: the train of he's got to be better than someone 484 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:51,840 Speaker 1: on the street right now, and having that knowledge of 485 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 1: the system and the players, having that kind of feel 486 00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:58,760 Speaker 1: for him at this point is maybe better. And trying 487 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:01,240 Speaker 1: to find somebody else. Now that may be wrong, but 488 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 1: I think I'm not ready to give up one him. 489 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:06,239 Speaker 1: The other guess the other two guys. Yeah, that's how 490 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 1: I feel. I kind of agree with you, Kurt, and 491 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:10,359 Speaker 1: I kind of agreed with half of you, Jess in 492 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 1: the sense of when you were saying the backup quarterback 493 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 1: is not on this roster. I think Garret Gilbert will 494 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 1: have a spot. Whether that's most likely too, I don't 495 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 1: think they have their third stringer. I don't think, especially 496 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:25,160 Speaker 1: how many years. I mean, Cooper Rush was here with 497 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 1: Jason Garrett and then you know, the Cowboys brought him 498 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:30,720 Speaker 1: back last year, so he's had time here and Benda Nucci. 499 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 1: You know, I'm trying to be fair because he didn't 500 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 1: get like a full assessment as a rookie last year, 501 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 1: right like the offseason preseason games, you know, threw him 502 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 1: into the fire last year. But he did not look 503 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:44,240 Speaker 1: any better this year than he did last year. So 504 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:47,320 Speaker 1: I am not confident at all in Cooper Rush or 505 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:51,680 Speaker 1: Benda Nucci. Heaven forbid, especially after what we saw last year. 506 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:54,840 Speaker 1: We have to go down that quarterback depth. And my 507 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:57,719 Speaker 1: biggest thing with the quarterbacks in the backup position is 508 00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:04,400 Speaker 1: when I look at Gilbert Danus Rush, like, how many 509 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:06,640 Speaker 1: are you confident that if we had to go into 510 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:10,560 Speaker 1: the season that that Garrett Gilbert can win you two games? 511 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:13,280 Speaker 1: Are you confident in that? And that's my point. But 512 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 1: I'm not confident in anybody. But that's my point. The 513 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 1: guy that we have on this roster who's been here 514 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:20,920 Speaker 1: for some time, who's been under the tutelage of these coaches, 515 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:24,240 Speaker 1: that their coaches it's talk about. That's not like defense 516 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:27,399 Speaker 1: where the coaching changes. You've had the same coaches for 517 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 1: the last couple of years. You've had the same offensive 518 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:32,720 Speaker 1: pointing for the last couple of years. This offense hasn't changed. 519 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 1: And for you to not to take steps in a 520 00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:40,400 Speaker 1: positive manner with the time that you spent here, that 521 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 1: worries me. That worries me because it wasn't bad against 522 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:47,240 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh last year, so he might be able to get you, Well, 523 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:52,760 Speaker 1: he just paint against Pittsburgh. Let me just say this. 524 00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:56,359 Speaker 1: And I can appreciate people being calm, calmer than the 525 00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:59,639 Speaker 1: Hindu cow, but that's not me, right, I am not 526 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:04,280 Speaker 1: called right now. I was like they're saying, they don't happen, 527 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:06,120 Speaker 1: they are calmed, they don't have to worry about being 528 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 1: eating because Hindus don't eat cow. Oh my god. When 529 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 1: you have to explain the thing it does. It makes sense, 530 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:14,680 Speaker 1: but it makes sense now. But I promise you, I 531 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:16,400 Speaker 1: promise you. There are a ton of people who are 532 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 1: listening who did not know, and you've helped us all. 533 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:24,399 Speaker 1: So that's him. He's comer than the Hindu cow in 534 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:27,679 Speaker 1: the pocket. And he doesn't have the clock internal clock 535 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:31,160 Speaker 1: that we football players know. It's one one thousand, two 536 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:33,560 Speaker 1: one thousand. Throw the ball. He's standing back there at 537 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 1: four one thousand. Bro, If you are standing in the 538 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:38,320 Speaker 1: pocket at four one thousand, there's only one thing that's 539 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:40,760 Speaker 1: about to happen. That is a guy coming down on 540 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:42,960 Speaker 1: your neck. And you got to feel that. And there 541 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 1: have been guys that have come to this league that 542 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:47,640 Speaker 1: that internal clock. They had to learn that, and they 543 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:50,360 Speaker 1: learn it the hard way. And if you get a 544 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:53,280 Speaker 1: rookie like you, guys for the Jets, guys for Jacksonville, 545 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 1: that's one of the things that they're gonna learn real quick. 546 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 1: You don't have five seconds, so you don't have force. 547 00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:00,320 Speaker 1: You may have had that in college, but you don't 548 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:02,680 Speaker 1: have that in the pros. And to me, Garret Gilbert, 549 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:07,320 Speaker 1: standing there, man, I screamed to the top of my lungs. 550 00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:09,720 Speaker 1: When when Brandon Knight missed that block, I'm like, he's 551 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:12,480 Speaker 1: going to die. This guy's coming and he doesn't feel 552 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:15,920 Speaker 1: the pressure. And I just didn't see the anticipation for 553 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 1: his throws. M I saw a lot of late passes, 554 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:22,720 Speaker 1: a lot of balls being thrown behind, not only from him, 555 00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:25,080 Speaker 1: but all of those guys. And again, you you bring 556 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:27,800 Speaker 1: up the point that they've been in the system, they've 557 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:30,680 Speaker 1: got an opportunity to delve into it and know exactly 558 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 1: where guys are going to be. The coverage last night 559 00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:36,240 Speaker 1: was as vanilla as it possibly could be. And you 560 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:38,720 Speaker 1: still can't throw guys open. You don't have touch, you 561 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:41,720 Speaker 1: don't have decision making, isn't there. That is what I 562 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:44,560 Speaker 1: have a problem with at the backup quarterback position. And 563 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:49,479 Speaker 1: that's why I'm saying, look, let's I don't even like 564 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:52,800 Speaker 1: RG three, he's past his prime, but he's better than 565 00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:56,040 Speaker 1: these guys. Well, that was my question, is like, if 566 00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:58,200 Speaker 1: you don't want to bring in, you don't want to 567 00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:01,120 Speaker 1: wait for teams to start to cut down their roster 568 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:03,000 Speaker 1: and then you bring another quarterback and then you're having 569 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 1: to start over with someone. So is the only option 570 00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:07,160 Speaker 1: to fix this to do what the Cowboys did last 571 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:09,400 Speaker 1: year with Andy Dalton, where you are bringing in a 572 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:12,480 Speaker 1: true experienced veteran and you're just gonna have to pay 573 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 1: him some money and they'll be your backup Marcus Mariota 574 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:19,240 Speaker 1: or someone that you sleep at night, because right now 575 00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:22,040 Speaker 1: you cannot be sleeping knowing that if something were to 576 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:24,360 Speaker 1: happen to that that Garrett Gilbert is the guys that 577 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 1: something has already happened to that and not to my point, 578 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:30,240 Speaker 1: because the shoulder and hence the freak out and Troy 579 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:33,720 Speaker 1: and Troy Aitman said this last night. Troy Aitman mentioned 580 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:35,520 Speaker 1: this on the Thing last nights. I know people were saying, 581 00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:37,720 Speaker 1: you know, not to worry about this, but I'm worried 582 00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:40,920 Speaker 1: about that, like I am. I personally, Jesse Holly am 583 00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:44,320 Speaker 1: worried about There's been talked at the training staff have 584 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:48,240 Speaker 1: reached out to the Texas Rangers to ask about some 585 00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:50,720 Speaker 1: of these shoulder things that are happening, you know, because 586 00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:53,640 Speaker 1: it seemed like it's a it's it's uncommon kind of 587 00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:56,400 Speaker 1: a football thing. More, it happens a lot in baseball 588 00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:58,600 Speaker 1: with pitchers and stuff like that. So that begins to 589 00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:00,360 Speaker 1: tell me and then you I told you this guy's 590 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:03,120 Speaker 1: last week. You tell me a few days. I'll give 591 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:05,240 Speaker 1: you a few days. They at the end of the 592 00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:07,240 Speaker 1: few days, you tell me, give me, give me a 593 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:08,680 Speaker 1: few weeks. Then you tell me at the end of 594 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:10,000 Speaker 1: that that, you know what, he's not gonna throw for 595 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:13,520 Speaker 1: a while, tea. This is not fatigue. This is not fatigue. 596 00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:15,440 Speaker 1: Fellas fatigue. You give it to day's a couple of 597 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:17,320 Speaker 1: day rest, you I set you stimm it, you missalogy, 598 00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:18,920 Speaker 1: do what you gotta do, and you get them back 599 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:22,520 Speaker 1: out there. Now, this is this is an organization that 600 00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:28,320 Speaker 1: when it's come to telling us all the truth about 601 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:31,000 Speaker 1: certain injuries, we don't get that right. It was the 602 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:35,960 Speaker 1: next thing or last year with u LVEE. Turns out 603 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:38,360 Speaker 1: you need a whole next surgery. Right. So it's it's 604 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:40,240 Speaker 1: these things that keep coming up when it comes to 605 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:42,760 Speaker 1: the medical part of things, and they're like, oh, yeah, 606 00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:44,560 Speaker 1: well he's out there practicing. If he was really that serious, 607 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:48,000 Speaker 1: he wouldn't be practicing. And I'm just saying, if we 608 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:50,600 Speaker 1: come to a point where they're saying, you know what, 609 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:53,640 Speaker 1: it's gonna be a little bit longer. I don't want 610 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:55,920 Speaker 1: to go into the beginning of the year with Garrett 611 00:31:55,960 --> 00:32:01,160 Speaker 1: Gilbert d Nucci rush against Tom Brady. Don't don't even 612 00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:03,600 Speaker 1: give me the picture of that, because what I'm saying 613 00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:06,200 Speaker 1: right now, let's let's let's let's figure this out right now, 614 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:08,200 Speaker 1: we know the problem that we have. Like I said, 615 00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:10,360 Speaker 1: I don't like any the guy that I just mentioned, 616 00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:12,720 Speaker 1: not a fan of his, but I know he's better 617 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:17,520 Speaker 1: than these guys. I even heard someone say Philip Rivers' name, Okay, 618 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:21,880 Speaker 1: better than these guys. I'm look, we saw last year 619 00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:26,000 Speaker 1: still out there. He's like we saw last year that 620 00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:28,840 Speaker 1: when you're when dad goes down, and if you're expecting 621 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:31,520 Speaker 1: to compete in the NFC East, where we still had 622 00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:33,640 Speaker 1: a chance with as bad as we were all the 623 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:36,240 Speaker 1: way up into the end, we have to find a 624 00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:39,240 Speaker 1: quarterback that can get us some victories. We were able 625 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:41,400 Speaker 1: to get that with Andy Dalton, all right, he was 626 00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:44,600 Speaker 1: he was serviceable enough to stick to the game plan 627 00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:47,880 Speaker 1: and win us a game. I do not believe that 628 00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:51,120 Speaker 1: Garrett Gilbert can do that. I mean, God bless him, 629 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:54,120 Speaker 1: and I hope that in Arizona he comes out and 630 00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:57,120 Speaker 1: he wears it out and we're like, whoa doble ge, 631 00:32:57,480 --> 00:32:59,560 Speaker 1: we got it. You know it's just hey man, it's 632 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:02,360 Speaker 1: just the first game, Jitters. I just don't see it 633 00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:05,520 Speaker 1: right now. I don't see it from Cooper Rush either, No, 634 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:08,880 Speaker 1: I don't. Definitely. To me, Rush is one of those 635 00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:10,640 Speaker 1: guys that's been in the system and just hasn't gotten 636 00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:13,440 Speaker 1: any better. We've kind of seen his But you know what, 637 00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:16,000 Speaker 1: I know who can answer all of this for us. 638 00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:20,040 Speaker 1: We got him on the line. Nate Newton helped us. 639 00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:22,719 Speaker 1: Nate he blocks for a little bit of a quarterback 640 00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:25,040 Speaker 1: at one point time in his life. A little bit 641 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:32,320 Speaker 1: nates you there, and typical, in typical fashion, his would 642 00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:35,760 Speaker 1: his screen would freeze up as we get Nate line 643 00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:38,560 Speaker 1: here on Haggy with the boys. But going back to 644 00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:41,520 Speaker 1: this conversation, that's that's literally where I am right now. 645 00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:45,160 Speaker 1: I mean, I think Cooper Rush, you know, look, maybe 646 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:48,400 Speaker 1: needs to look some more reps, maybe a second half, 647 00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:50,880 Speaker 1: and it's between him and Garrett Gilbert. Just give these 648 00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:53,800 Speaker 1: guys a half and evaluate him and the Cowboys win, 649 00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:57,800 Speaker 1: no matter who's that quarterback? A text, No man, I 650 00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:00,760 Speaker 1: can pay I mean, I just know there's anybody on 651 00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:02,920 Speaker 1: this show. But did we get a fair assessment of that? 652 00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:05,920 Speaker 1: An answer to that question with the offensive line, and 653 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,239 Speaker 1: now we're out there, you need if you had an 654 00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:12,279 Speaker 1: healthy offensive line, Tren and Zach Martin out there with 655 00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:15,239 Speaker 1: Lyle Collins. Wait a minute, let me ask this. The 656 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:17,920 Speaker 1: guys that you had out there last night, well, the 657 00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:21,560 Speaker 1: guys that played the entire season for you at tackle, 658 00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:25,200 Speaker 1: Could somebody please tell Brandon Knight to wink one time 659 00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:27,600 Speaker 1: if he's okay, wink twice if he needs us to 660 00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:31,880 Speaker 1: call nine one one because you're freaking out again. I'm sorry, 661 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:35,560 Speaker 1: I am. Let me bring it down, Brandon Knight. Did 662 00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:38,439 Speaker 1: anybody get a beat on? What's up with Brandon Knight? 663 00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:43,000 Speaker 1: I was just him and Terrence Steel outside. I was 664 00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:45,839 Speaker 1: surprised to see them struggle as much as they did 665 00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:49,160 Speaker 1: because of how much experience they got last season filling 666 00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:52,240 Speaker 1: in for Tyron Smith and Lyle Collins. I was not impressed. Yeah, 667 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:55,600 Speaker 1: I think if that's the one position that out of 668 00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:57,560 Speaker 1: last night that I would have the most concern about, 669 00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:00,000 Speaker 1: it's at swing tackle because neither one of those two 670 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:03,880 Speaker 1: or the second really should much at all. And now 671 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:05,800 Speaker 1: we see a lot of times while in practice, you 672 00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:08,640 Speaker 1: see all this movement on the offensive line. You got guys, Hey, 673 00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:10,000 Speaker 1: you can play a little center, have you play a 674 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:13,560 Speaker 1: little guard, you play because they are unsure and and 675 00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:18,600 Speaker 1: and last night put it on display that well, we 676 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:23,000 Speaker 1: cannot afford to lose a starter. And we've said this 677 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:25,360 Speaker 1: for the last couple of years, especially on Austrial Kurt. 678 00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:27,239 Speaker 1: You can almost put in the books two or three 679 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:29,960 Speaker 1: games for Tyrn Smith, like it's not an if but 680 00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:35,360 Speaker 1: a win. I know, I know, he said, but his 681 00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:39,839 Speaker 1: history has said when it comes to Tyland Smith, two 682 00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:42,520 Speaker 1: to three games, book them just get you. We don't 683 00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:46,319 Speaker 1: know when, but we know what's coming. And so in 684 00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:48,960 Speaker 1: that time frame you're always hope and pray that it 685 00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:51,239 Speaker 1: doesn't come. It Maybe it comes during that stretch where 686 00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:52,560 Speaker 1: we're kind of like, you know, a little bit more 687 00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:55,279 Speaker 1: dominant teams that we're playing opposed to come out to 688 00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:57,080 Speaker 1: be like, you know what, we might need our Pro 689 00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:59,439 Speaker 1: Bowl left tackle you know, out there and not having 690 00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:04,200 Speaker 1: God shift around. So we can't afford and most teams can't. 691 00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:08,480 Speaker 1: But we really cannot afford to lose a guy for 692 00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:11,400 Speaker 1: any significant amount of time with our offensive line, because 693 00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:14,040 Speaker 1: we saw it last night. And that's the thing about 694 00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:19,920 Speaker 1: offensive line, it's very clear cut. It's very clear cut. Like, 695 00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:22,279 Speaker 1: I don't need all these other guys around me to 696 00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:24,279 Speaker 1: block the guy in front of me. Cannot block the 697 00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:26,160 Speaker 1: guy in front of me. If that's a yes, that's 698 00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:28,399 Speaker 1: a no, then then that's very clear. It's not like 699 00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:31,399 Speaker 1: a receiver what you're saying, like, Well, the line didn't block, 700 00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:33,560 Speaker 1: so the quarterback didn't have time, didn't get my time, 701 00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:35,560 Speaker 1: my ute time to develop, so I didn't get the ball. 702 00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:38,000 Speaker 1: So it's kind of holler to evaluate my my what 703 00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:40,560 Speaker 1: I'm able to do. Offensive lineman is hey, especially in 704 00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:43,200 Speaker 1: the preseason, because it's so vanilla. It's the guy lining 705 00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:44,880 Speaker 1: up in front of me. It is probably gonna come forward, 706 00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:47,000 Speaker 1: and I need to do a better job than blocking them. 707 00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:49,480 Speaker 1: And we saw it last night that that wasn't something 708 00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:52,279 Speaker 1: that was done at a high rate on our offensive line. 709 00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:55,239 Speaker 1: I fought the college football game for this problem? Is 710 00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:57,880 Speaker 1: that offensive line I do I'm delving into I'm going 711 00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:03,200 Speaker 1: d because Cuba, the spread, the spread offense is hurting 712 00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:07,960 Speaker 1: offensive linemen. They're just not able to develop. The ability 713 00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:11,400 Speaker 1: to fire off the ball is not in the running game, 714 00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:15,359 Speaker 1: guys in the passing game. I'm just watching Brandon Night 715 00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:18,520 Speaker 1: last night, man to man, and this isn't t J Watt, 716 00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:20,320 Speaker 1: this isn't any of the other guys that this is 717 00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:24,080 Speaker 1: a third string guy blowing by him. And you know, 718 00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:27,920 Speaker 1: if again, if what you're saying is true that Tymon 719 00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:32,040 Speaker 1: Smith will eventually miss some time, I do not want 720 00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:33,960 Speaker 1: to see sixty eight at left tackle with my one 721 00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:37,920 Speaker 1: hundred million dollars two hundred million dollars quarterback standing back there. 722 00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:42,960 Speaker 1: I guess value the work that was done last year 723 00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:45,080 Speaker 1: more than just what was done in a handful of 724 00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:49,400 Speaker 1: snaps last night. Okay, not that last year was MVP worthy, 725 00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:53,320 Speaker 1: but at least you saw, I mean, ter Scott got 726 00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:55,840 Speaker 1: better as the season went along and Night had his moments. 727 00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:58,520 Speaker 1: So that's my hope I guess is that you know, 728 00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:00,839 Speaker 1: the Secy was good for the Bill with Bills last 729 00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:06,640 Speaker 1: year and sow So yeah, no, I just like I said, 730 00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:11,359 Speaker 1: that's I am as worried about other positions like this 731 00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:15,120 Speaker 1: offensive line group to me, like you said, has to 732 00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:18,839 Speaker 1: stay healthy. Tyren Smith can't take those. If it's gonna 733 00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:23,520 Speaker 1: be like the veteran day off game off deal, that 734 00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:26,000 Speaker 1: may be the game that we don't didn't need him 735 00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:28,279 Speaker 1: to actually take off. And the one thing I've always 736 00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:31,720 Speaker 1: said about this this team, and I've said this four years, 737 00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:35,400 Speaker 1: even back in the Jason Garrett era. I feel like 738 00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:38,640 Speaker 1: we're the only team in the league who can't afford 739 00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:41,479 Speaker 1: to lose a player. And I'm not talking quarterback, because 740 00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:43,160 Speaker 1: most team in the league, you lose just starting quarterback, 741 00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:46,560 Speaker 1: you're done. But it's always seemed like if we lose 742 00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:49,759 Speaker 1: one guy, we're done. Like we had time when it 743 00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:52,919 Speaker 1: was like, oh, Sean Lee goes out, we can't play 744 00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:56,200 Speaker 1: defense anymore. Like the development part for me has always 745 00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:58,720 Speaker 1: been an issue of saying, Man, a lot of teams 746 00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:01,320 Speaker 1: in this league have tons of success when they lose 747 00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:06,439 Speaker 1: quote unquote valuable guys that anywhere on their football team. 748 00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:08,200 Speaker 1: But when it comes to the Cowboys, when we lose 749 00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:11,920 Speaker 1: a guy not quarterback, um that we just all of 750 00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:15,680 Speaker 1: a sudden can't function properly. Well, we got a guy 751 00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:19,040 Speaker 1: that we can't function properly without. He can't function properly, 752 00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:23,160 Speaker 1: cannot function properly without Nate knew Nate where yet man 753 00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:29,040 Speaker 1: oh Man just left Pasadena. Man, I apologize greatly for 754 00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:31,879 Speaker 1: my bad connections. I had to go into my bag 755 00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:34,359 Speaker 1: of tricks man and put out a hot spot. So 756 00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:37,600 Speaker 1: because I truly want to be connected to you guys. Man, 757 00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:39,719 Speaker 1: I want to be that blocker for you. Jess. How 758 00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:43,239 Speaker 1: was that breakfast burrito? How was that breakfast burrito? It 759 00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:46,040 Speaker 1: was great, man, It was a difference maker. Man, it 760 00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:49,359 Speaker 1: was a different man. We stopped the top, say in Pasadeno, Man, 761 00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:53,319 Speaker 1: just going on our way to go San Diego. Man. Wow, Man, 762 00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:55,160 Speaker 1: I took it out my wife hand. She was eating it. 763 00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:56,479 Speaker 1: Then all of a sudden that thing with the smell 764 00:39:56,560 --> 00:40:04,520 Speaker 1: into the hoggett the hoggate had the route bron NYE. 765 00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:06,879 Speaker 1: Tell me about what you saw last night, guys. Man, 766 00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:12,680 Speaker 1: oh man, it's two things I want to address. Man. 767 00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:17,320 Speaker 1: Is uh number ninety nine who played sparingly Hammerton Hamilton 768 00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:23,240 Speaker 1: number ninety eight uh Bohannon and number and number seventy 769 00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:29,120 Speaker 1: five the defensive line the young draft pick. Yeah, these 770 00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:32,680 Speaker 1: guys played well. The problem you know, when they tried 771 00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:34,680 Speaker 1: to run the ball, they couldn't get none up the middle. 772 00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:37,319 Speaker 1: They got a little four yard touchdown, you know, and 773 00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:40,720 Speaker 1: even by Hannah was on that plane, he just missed 774 00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:44,160 Speaker 1: the tackle. So but on the outside, on the outside 775 00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:45,880 Speaker 1: is where they got us. So we gotta set the 776 00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:48,000 Speaker 1: edge a little bit better. But more important, I just 777 00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:51,919 Speaker 1: want to talk about this quarterback situation. And I've talked 778 00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:55,640 Speaker 1: to several people in camp man reporters such as ourselves 779 00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:59,080 Speaker 1: and analysts, and I've talked to a few coaches. Man, Uh, 780 00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:01,719 Speaker 1: they're gonna give yel but every opportunity to try to 781 00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:04,839 Speaker 1: show that he's the quarterback. But that first sack down 782 00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:07,160 Speaker 1: there in the red zone, that was on him. It 783 00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:09,759 Speaker 1: was a three step drop and he didn't get rid 784 00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:12,680 Speaker 1: of the ball. You should know that as a quarterback, 785 00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:15,880 Speaker 1: especially going into your second year, you can't hold the ball. 786 00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:19,000 Speaker 1: Then later on in the next drive, he did the 787 00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:21,399 Speaker 1: same thing. You get into the red zone, you hold 788 00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:25,279 Speaker 1: the ball. Nisky is the swing tackle number seventy nine, 789 00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:28,719 Speaker 1: who's getting the first shot at the swing tackle? Dog. Now, 790 00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:31,120 Speaker 1: the first time it wasn't his fault. Guy got on 791 00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:33,319 Speaker 1: any side he try to quarterbacks should have been got 792 00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:35,520 Speaker 1: rid of the ball. The second time it was his 793 00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:38,360 Speaker 1: fault where the quarterback was rushed and all of a sudden, 794 00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:41,600 Speaker 1: now you got interceptions and you can't have that. You 795 00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:44,120 Speaker 1: can't have that, and our offensive line is gonna be 796 00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:47,239 Speaker 1: okay with the guys that were in there. We needed 797 00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:48,960 Speaker 1: to see a little bit of Lyell. We needed to 798 00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:52,239 Speaker 1: see a little bit of the center. We needed to 799 00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:54,480 Speaker 1: see a litt bit of the left guard at center. 800 00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:57,960 Speaker 1: So these guys did. Okay. Yes, the run game suffered 801 00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:00,720 Speaker 1: in the end and at the beginning, But the question 802 00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:06,320 Speaker 1: still remains, how confident are the coaching staff, head coach, 803 00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:12,640 Speaker 1: offensive coordinating quarterback coach about this backup quarterback? This thing is? 804 00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:16,880 Speaker 1: And I know it's the first preseason game. Don't panic. 805 00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:19,640 Speaker 1: Let everybody get their feed in the ground. But you 806 00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:21,040 Speaker 1: don't get a chance to get your feed in the 807 00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:23,520 Speaker 1: ground when you got a team that has keeps saying 808 00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:26,960 Speaker 1: for the last three years, we're at the doorstep of success, 809 00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:30,919 Speaker 1: We're at the doorstep of NFC championship games. We're at 810 00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:35,000 Speaker 1: the doorstep if you lose that for any amount of time, 811 00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:37,880 Speaker 1: which I agree with you, guys, I listened to you. 812 00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:42,000 Speaker 1: You cannot continue to tell us as fans that there's 813 00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:46,080 Speaker 1: nothing wrong when your history shows that every time you 814 00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:49,400 Speaker 1: say there's nothing wrong, there seem to be major incidents 815 00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:52,560 Speaker 1: going on. So tell us the truth as fans so 816 00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:55,279 Speaker 1: we would know what's going on along with you, and 817 00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:58,920 Speaker 1: we can temper our expectations. Nick, you said that the 818 00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:02,560 Speaker 1: offensive line and will be fine. And when you say that, 819 00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:06,160 Speaker 1: I assume that you're speaking of the Tirings of the 820 00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:09,200 Speaker 1: worlds and the Zack Martins of the worlds and a 821 00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:12,120 Speaker 1: lot of the the kinds of the world. But what happens 822 00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:14,680 Speaker 1: to that offensive line if and when one of those 823 00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:17,920 Speaker 1: guys go down, Because we see in the preseason a 824 00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:20,960 Speaker 1: lot of times you see what the depth of your 825 00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:24,000 Speaker 1: team is going to look like. And if the depth 826 00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:27,520 Speaker 1: of our offensive line was on display last night, I 827 00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:31,480 Speaker 1: helped me be as confident as you are in that 828 00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:39,360 Speaker 1: being okay. Lyell looked okay, the center looked okay, and 829 00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:43,399 Speaker 1: the left guard looked okay. That's that's my concern right now, 830 00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:46,479 Speaker 1: is that those three guys get through. And I've said 831 00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:53,439 Speaker 1: last year, Jesse, that if we can get Lyall and 832 00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:57,080 Speaker 1: Zack Martin healthy the three games out of the year, 833 00:43:57,600 --> 00:44:01,200 Speaker 1: I mean for sixteen games out of the year, we 834 00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:04,720 Speaker 1: can always cover Tyron. It's easy to cover one spot 835 00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:07,960 Speaker 1: being any position except center. Then the next importance is 836 00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:11,920 Speaker 1: left tackle. But we can cover one position one side 837 00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:14,120 Speaker 1: of the field with other things that we can do 838 00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:16,760 Speaker 1: as an offense. But you can't have three of these guys. 839 00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:19,680 Speaker 1: And I think Lyle did a nice job last night. 840 00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:22,680 Speaker 1: I think your center did a nice job last night. 841 00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:27,160 Speaker 1: And your left guard those complete with Tyron and Zach, 842 00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:29,799 Speaker 1: those are gonna be the guys that's gonna be in there. 843 00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:33,520 Speaker 1: The first drive was okay, the second driver is okay. 844 00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:36,520 Speaker 1: But the quarterback cannot hold the ball or not expectingly 845 00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:38,759 Speaker 1: on the three step drop, even as a five steps drop. 846 00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:41,120 Speaker 1: He said, okay, he may have seen something, but on 847 00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:44,160 Speaker 1: three steps drops bam, bam bam and goom. He did 848 00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:47,239 Speaker 1: not give us that. Last night. He showed indecision man 849 00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:51,120 Speaker 1: where it should be simple plays. Throw the ball, throw 850 00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:54,759 Speaker 1: it away, a thought to somebody. Yeah, but we were 851 00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:57,919 Speaker 1: discussing earlier that, yeah, we'd all love to have Jack 852 00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:01,200 Speaker 1: Martin and Lyle Collins and Aaron Smith you know, available 853 00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:04,880 Speaker 1: all sixteen games, but seventeen now, yeah, seventeen. But you know, 854 00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:07,560 Speaker 1: swing tackle made us a little nervous last night because 855 00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:11,560 Speaker 1: still night the second none of those guys really stood out. 856 00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:13,480 Speaker 1: What did you think as far as the depth, are 857 00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:17,319 Speaker 1: we in a little bit of trouble there? No, I 858 00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:20,080 Speaker 1: just want to see once the season start. And I 859 00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:23,520 Speaker 1: hate to say that because you expect better from you, 860 00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:27,359 Speaker 1: from from Nisaki. He's he's he's been in league, he's 861 00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:30,960 Speaker 1: a veteran, and so we pray we don't use him. 862 00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:33,719 Speaker 1: But last night, you know, it didn't look good due 863 00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:35,920 Speaker 1: to the fact that he gave up with two inside 864 00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:39,000 Speaker 1: moves and the quarterback hell of the ball, which made 865 00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:41,440 Speaker 1: it even look even worse for him. So and still 866 00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:45,560 Speaker 1: has to play stronger. His body looks different, he looks different, 867 00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:48,560 Speaker 1: but he has to play stronger. He's he's not a 868 00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:51,680 Speaker 1: physically strong guy. And none of our backups or what 869 00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:55,400 Speaker 1: you call physically strong, nobody but mcgovernor. But he Governor 870 00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:58,359 Speaker 1: is a guard center guy. You know, we need some 871 00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:01,359 Speaker 1: guys that are physical and strong, so once they get 872 00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:04,000 Speaker 1: their hands on you, they can hold They can hold tight. 873 00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:06,359 Speaker 1: But that was the problem last night. They looked at 874 00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:09,400 Speaker 1: decent run blocking, but when it comes to pass blocking, 875 00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:13,000 Speaker 1: especially third down situations, we seem like we're not strong 876 00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:16,120 Speaker 1: and we're not setting firm with all positive steps and 877 00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:20,600 Speaker 1: good hand placement. Well, Nate man, We hey, look man, 878 00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:23,920 Speaker 1: we appreciate you calling in and joining your show here 879 00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:25,480 Speaker 1: and hanging with the boys. I know we got you 880 00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:28,839 Speaker 1: on the side of the highway showing that professionalism got 881 00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:31,200 Speaker 1: you a hot spot and everything. Man, you've been posting 882 00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:35,279 Speaker 1: on Facebook and social media. How miss Newton down there 883 00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:44,680 Speaker 1: breaking your RUC story. Mischelle, Hey man, she got on 884 00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:48,960 Speaker 1: the lady bug sunglasses. Man, we're loving y'all. Man, y'all 885 00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:51,200 Speaker 1: be good. Man, y'all having a great show, and y'all 886 00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:53,799 Speaker 1: doing a excellent job. I was listening even though I 887 00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:56,439 Speaker 1: couldn't get in. Y'all are on the right track. Man, 888 00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:59,440 Speaker 1: backup quarterback. But I'm telling you my two boys in 889 00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:03,160 Speaker 1: the middle, seventy five, ninety eight and ninety nine, they 890 00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:06,440 Speaker 1: did all right last night. That is a positive. Trust 891 00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:08,719 Speaker 1: me when I say that, that is a positive. That's 892 00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:11,200 Speaker 1: hope this grow and get better. So by time the 893 00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:14,200 Speaker 1: season start, Jess would not feel like he's being left 894 00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:16,440 Speaker 1: on the porch doing his job from the side of 895 00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:19,239 Speaker 1: the highway. The Great Nate Newton, We're gonna take a 896 00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:21,239 Speaker 1: break here on hanging with the boys, and we'll be 897 00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:26,440 Speaker 1: right back. 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This is hanging 941 00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:58,280 Speaker 1: with the boys and guys we've been going into last 942 00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:00,840 Speaker 1: night's game at wait a minute, I'm joining by Kurt Daniels, 943 00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:03,040 Speaker 1: Jesse Holly and Danny Serec Danny, I'm new to this. 944 00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:05,680 Speaker 1: I'm just trying to get it all. Thank you, Thank you. 945 00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:07,680 Speaker 1: It's hard because earlier in the week I was Kurt 946 00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:15,000 Speaker 1: and now I'm Isaiah. She's like moving around. But we're 947 00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:17,520 Speaker 1: back and we're talking. Just got off the line with Nate. 948 00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:20,600 Speaker 1: Nate pulled onto the media to talk to us and 949 00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:23,239 Speaker 1: pull out the hot spot, so we appreciate him for that. 950 00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:26,000 Speaker 1: Nate said he won't panic about the swing tackle position 951 00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:29,720 Speaker 1: until the season starts. UH That made me take another terms. 952 00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:32,440 Speaker 1: But you know, look, I think aside from all of that, 953 00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:35,719 Speaker 1: guys we have you know, look, we've we've gotten an 954 00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:38,239 Speaker 1: assessment of what we saw last night, and I think, 955 00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:41,879 Speaker 1: you know, we all think we'll know that there's going 956 00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:46,839 Speaker 1: to be uh an improvement to make. But usually at 957 00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:49,800 Speaker 1: the start of the third segment we do a what 958 00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:52,840 Speaker 1: the heck and I'm going to give my what the 959 00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:56,640 Speaker 1: heck over to Kurt Daniel Are okay, Um, I guess 960 00:50:56,719 --> 00:51:01,920 Speaker 1: my what the heck involves the scrimmage tomorrow. Maybe it's physical, 961 00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:04,719 Speaker 1: Maybe it's not part of my what the heck is? 962 00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:09,120 Speaker 1: There were sixteen so guys that didn't make the trip 963 00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:13,280 Speaker 1: to Canton, but you took other guys. You took Donovan Wilson, 964 00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:16,760 Speaker 1: you took Zeke, you took Cede Lamb, you took Trevon 965 00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:18,960 Speaker 1: dig you took Randy Gregor. You took these guys you 966 00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:22,000 Speaker 1: knew weren't going to play, put them on a five 967 00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:25,520 Speaker 1: hour flight, another hour bus ride to la another bus 968 00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:28,160 Speaker 1: ride to Canton, and then back again. You get back 969 00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:31,040 Speaker 1: four Mickey said. They got back at five am last night. 970 00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:34,080 Speaker 1: Now you got to turn around in less than what 971 00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:38,799 Speaker 1: twenty four less than forty eight hours? Whatever? In face, 972 00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:41,759 Speaker 1: Aaron Donald, you're gonna bang against those guys. I mean, 973 00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:44,799 Speaker 1: I'm a little surprised the players Union didn't say, hey, 974 00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:48,719 Speaker 1: this isn't right. I mean it just if you want 975 00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:50,400 Speaker 1: to keep your guys healthy and you want to get 976 00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:52,440 Speaker 1: them ready for the season, I don't quite understand the 977 00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:54,960 Speaker 1: logistics of why you did some of this and set 978 00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:57,399 Speaker 1: it up. That's a good point. And in the break 979 00:51:57,440 --> 00:51:59,880 Speaker 1: we were talking about what to expect in the Cowboys 980 00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:02,920 Speaker 1: Ram scribbage, which will be Dallas Cowboys dot Com five 981 00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:05,359 Speaker 1: pm Central Standard time for everyone who wants to watch. 982 00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:08,279 Speaker 1: We were talking in the break about how physical we 983 00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:10,600 Speaker 1: expect this to be. Are we going to see more 984 00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:12,360 Speaker 1: of the starters that we didn't see a lot of 985 00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:15,080 Speaker 1: in the Hall of Fame preseason game? You know how 986 00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:16,719 Speaker 1: physical is it going to get? And at first I 987 00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:19,400 Speaker 1: was like, I want to see some physicality. I want 988 00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:21,560 Speaker 1: to see our ones against their ones. And then Jesse 989 00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:23,520 Speaker 1: brought me back down and he said, do you really 990 00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:26,160 Speaker 1: want to see Aaron Donald go full on against Tyler 991 00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:31,719 Speaker 1: Botas And I said, maybe not. And there'll be some 992 00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:38,040 Speaker 1: physicality just by being out there. They wear yellow and blue, 993 00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:43,040 Speaker 1: we wear blue and white. So just because I'm a man, 994 00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:45,000 Speaker 1: you're a man, and we don't play for the same team, 995 00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:47,279 Speaker 1: there's going to be a level of physicality that's out there. 996 00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:51,640 Speaker 1: But being that, what makes this different from the Hall 997 00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:54,960 Speaker 1: of Fame game is coaches are able to control it. 998 00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:59,040 Speaker 1: It's going to be a controlled atmosphere meaning you're not 999 00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:01,480 Speaker 1: going to see You're probably not gonna see, hey, we're 1000 00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:04,640 Speaker 1: gonna go fifteen straight players with ones verse ones, and 1001 00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:06,880 Speaker 1: it'll probably say, hey, we may have fifteen plays in 1002 00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:09,759 Speaker 1: this period, and you may see the ones goes one, 1003 00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:11,879 Speaker 1: you know, the first three or four, then you'll see 1004 00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:13,560 Speaker 1: the backups, and then you'll see the third, and then 1005 00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:15,239 Speaker 1: you'll probably get back to the ones again for the 1006 00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:17,320 Speaker 1: last three or four plays. But it's not gonna be 1007 00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:20,359 Speaker 1: an all out, you know, section this off and we're 1008 00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:22,719 Speaker 1: gonna go like we're in a natural game, right You're 1009 00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:25,720 Speaker 1: gonna have moments in the period where you know, normally 1010 00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:28,200 Speaker 1: you go down and you'll see running backs and linebackers work, 1011 00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:30,759 Speaker 1: but this time it will be our running backs first 1012 00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:33,439 Speaker 1: their linebackers, and then our linebackers verse their running backs 1013 00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:36,879 Speaker 1: in the controlled atmosphere. And I think that's why you'll 1014 00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:39,280 Speaker 1: see you know why coaches help some of those starters 1015 00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:42,040 Speaker 1: back from not playing, because now they know that they 1016 00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:44,520 Speaker 1: get a chance to get some real solid work this 1017 00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:48,799 Speaker 1: weekend with this team, but under a controlled atmosphere because 1018 00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:50,400 Speaker 1: you can't control them. You can't control the Hall of 1019 00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:54,120 Speaker 1: Fame game, right you just that's a real game. You 1020 00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:58,239 Speaker 1: there's no whistles being blown, coaches aren't on the field, can't. 1021 00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:01,239 Speaker 1: We can't repeat it. But practice I can repeat it. 1022 00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:03,600 Speaker 1: I can set the tempo, I can set the parameters 1023 00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:06,040 Speaker 1: of how we want to do things with this other 1024 00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:09,279 Speaker 1: football team. So it'll be physical just by osmosis, right, 1025 00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:11,680 Speaker 1: just by being out there next to one another. It's 1026 00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:14,640 Speaker 1: gonna be physical. But as far as in the full out, 1027 00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:18,440 Speaker 1: all out scrimmage, yeah, I don't. Wasn't there a big 1028 00:54:18,520 --> 00:54:22,000 Speaker 1: brawl a couple of years ago and the a major 1029 00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:28,839 Speaker 1: raw Fisher team, right, Yeah, Mike McCarthy, I'm not even 1030 00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:32,800 Speaker 1: gonna dig into that. But Mike McCarthy also talked about, 1031 00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:35,320 Speaker 1: you know, making sure that this team got the quality 1032 00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:37,400 Speaker 1: of reps that they needed in the scrimmage and it 1033 00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:39,600 Speaker 1: being controlled, and like you said, Kurt, and I think 1034 00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:41,560 Speaker 1: that's very important. To bring up a point of the 1035 00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:43,799 Speaker 1: team coming off on the twenty four hour turn around 1036 00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:46,239 Speaker 1: and then having the rams come in. I think they 1037 00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:48,880 Speaker 1: maybe work some half line stuff, like you said, linebackers 1038 00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:52,279 Speaker 1: verse running backs things like that versus the ones. Really, 1039 00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:54,680 Speaker 1: I think with the receiving corps and what you've alluded 1040 00:54:54,719 --> 00:54:57,000 Speaker 1: to before is just kind of a seven on seven 1041 00:54:57,080 --> 00:55:03,120 Speaker 1: kind of a matchup to get our guys one. You know, 1042 00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:05,799 Speaker 1: that's what I think everybody wants to see. That's gonna 1043 00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:09,120 Speaker 1: be the highlight. But even that, you know, like you said, um, like, 1044 00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:11,239 Speaker 1: if I'm Randy Gregory, like, why did you drag me 1045 00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:13,560 Speaker 1: to Canton on this huge trip and get me home 1046 00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:14,759 Speaker 1: at five in the morning when I got to turn 1047 00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:17,840 Speaker 1: around and face Lineman or even a guy like Connor Williams. 1048 00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:20,680 Speaker 1: He obviously needed the work at Center and it was 1049 00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:23,200 Speaker 1: important that he go to Canton and play. But now 1050 00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:25,520 Speaker 1: he's got to turn around and face Aaron Donald right away. 1051 00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:28,399 Speaker 1: I mean, and there's nothing easy about that, no matter 1052 00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:31,360 Speaker 1: if it's controlled or not. So I don't know. To me, 1053 00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:34,120 Speaker 1: it's just it's a nod. I hope that everybody comes 1054 00:55:34,160 --> 00:55:36,560 Speaker 1: out healthy. Obviously. I hope they make progress. It's it's 1055 00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:38,560 Speaker 1: what they want to, you know. I hope they get 1056 00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:40,640 Speaker 1: out of it what they want. But but but now, Kurt, Now, 1057 00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:43,560 Speaker 1: now let's let's like, well, I know that they're all professionals, 1058 00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:46,520 Speaker 1: but let's be honest, Kurt, I don't think we have 1059 00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:48,960 Speaker 1: enough people that we could have left behind The watch 1060 00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:55,120 Speaker 1: sixteen to twenty guys do the right thing. I'm just 1061 00:55:55,200 --> 00:56:00,600 Speaker 1: saying I know that anyone in particular Baron saying you 1062 00:56:00,640 --> 00:56:02,600 Speaker 1: gotta ride with me to the store. You can't stay 1063 00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:05,920 Speaker 1: here with you Others, Oh my god, I don't bring 1064 00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:07,880 Speaker 1: that about you. I don't know if that we have 1065 00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:11,200 Speaker 1: enough security and enough people that was left behind to 1066 00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:14,000 Speaker 1: watch twenty guys because you know, Zeke wasn't playing, So 1067 00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:18,480 Speaker 1: why they take guys twenty guys Like that's a lot. 1068 00:56:18,719 --> 00:56:20,919 Speaker 1: It wasn't like you know, I know Dak stayed behind 1069 00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:22,879 Speaker 1: for some treatment purposes and so on and so forth. 1070 00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:24,400 Speaker 1: But you know, in the quarterback, you kind of like 1071 00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:27,120 Speaker 1: almost trust a little bit, and you kind of quarterback 1072 00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:29,799 Speaker 1: don't actually get treated like the rest of us get treated. There. 1073 00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:32,400 Speaker 1: It's always like the Jimmy Johnson thing, like everyone gets treated, 1074 00:56:32,719 --> 00:56:35,160 Speaker 1: uh fairly, but everybody gets treated the saying I want 1075 00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:38,879 Speaker 1: to treat fairly. However, that saying goes twenty guys, Kurt, 1076 00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:42,360 Speaker 1: who have who have been in lockdown and training camp. 1077 00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:45,480 Speaker 1: I told you the camp. It's at some point time 1078 00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:47,839 Speaker 1: you got to say, you know what, guys, how about yea, yeah, 1079 00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:52,279 Speaker 1: just come with us, Yeah, come on, because there will 1080 00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:54,399 Speaker 1: be a guy that's been like, y'all listen while he's here, 1081 00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:58,640 Speaker 1: come around the building. The light gonna be flashing on 1082 00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:02,560 Speaker 1: the porch. That's the room show the last So thank you, 1083 00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:07,799 Speaker 1: thank you for your Why you take all these guys? 1084 00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:10,600 Speaker 1: You just can't leave twenty guys behind. You know what 1085 00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:12,560 Speaker 1: I'm saying with the campos and you know, you know 1086 00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:15,719 Speaker 1: my staying on our show football you might have a 1087 00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:19,720 Speaker 1: little bit of that at the residence is so Kurt. 1088 00:57:19,880 --> 00:57:22,120 Speaker 1: This is what what the heck is all about? Thank 1089 00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:25,320 Speaker 1: you for coming up with that quality. What the heck? 1090 00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:28,600 Speaker 1: But my last question for you, guys, last question. Even 1091 00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:31,959 Speaker 1: in the first half, we had red zone woes. We're 1092 00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:35,760 Speaker 1: not able to get into all these numbers. We get 1093 00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:38,680 Speaker 1: all the way down there and we cannot punch our ticket. 1094 00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:42,560 Speaker 1: We cannot get six points. Guys, and Danny, I'll start 1095 00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:45,560 Speaker 1: with you on this question. What is it? Is it 1096 00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:48,360 Speaker 1: the system? What's going on? Why do we keep having 1097 00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:51,240 Speaker 1: to relive this reality in the red zone? It almost 1098 00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:53,120 Speaker 1: felt like we were watching last year all over again, 1099 00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:57,600 Speaker 1: like no time had passed whatsoever. Um, it's frustrating. I 1100 00:57:57,680 --> 00:58:00,640 Speaker 1: don't think there is an excuse for that. Gonna give 1101 00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:02,360 Speaker 1: an excuse for that, I will say the only thing 1102 00:58:02,440 --> 00:58:04,479 Speaker 1: that brings me some solace is even though we weren't 1103 00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:06,640 Speaker 1: seeing Zeke, like, we weren't seeing a lot of Tony 1104 00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:09,040 Speaker 1: Pollard and a lot of those other guys who are 1105 00:58:09,120 --> 00:58:12,840 Speaker 1: those second string players who we know we can rely on. However, 1106 00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:15,959 Speaker 1: they struggled last year, and so I don't think there's 1107 00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:18,400 Speaker 1: any excuse as to why they weren't able to score 1108 00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:21,600 Speaker 1: at all any touchdowns whatsoever in that game. I'm not 1109 00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:24,800 Speaker 1: gonna let them go on a free pass. But again, 1110 00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:28,040 Speaker 1: I'm on that same same idea that give me one 1111 00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:31,040 Speaker 1: more game, Arizona game, and then I feel like I'll 1112 00:58:31,080 --> 00:58:34,240 Speaker 1: have a better assessment of what is truly a concern 1113 00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:37,640 Speaker 1: and what is just getting off the rust and putting 1114 00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:40,680 Speaker 1: the scheme out on the field. Red zone is fifty 1115 00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:43,920 Speaker 1: percent player, all right, fifty percent Jimmy and Joe, fifty 1116 00:58:43,960 --> 00:58:46,760 Speaker 1: percent X and O like, that's what red zone becomes. 1117 00:58:47,200 --> 00:58:50,160 Speaker 1: And a lot of it becomes that the quarters are 1118 00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:53,720 Speaker 1: so condensed, you don't have that you have the back 1119 00:58:53,840 --> 00:58:57,120 Speaker 1: end line, so you're not delivering the ball down the field. 1120 00:58:57,400 --> 00:59:01,200 Speaker 1: Windows open and close a lot faster. Things happen at 1121 00:59:01,240 --> 00:59:03,680 Speaker 1: a much faster rate. In the red zone. And so 1122 00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:05,680 Speaker 1: a lot of it is being able to call the 1123 00:59:05,840 --> 00:59:08,600 Speaker 1: right plays at the right time. And then another half 1124 00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:10,960 Speaker 1: of it is I just gotta have guys who are better. 1125 00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:13,320 Speaker 1: I have to have guys who are better in the 1126 00:59:13,400 --> 00:59:14,840 Speaker 1: red zone. When you look at the teams who are 1127 00:59:14,920 --> 00:59:17,520 Speaker 1: successful in the red zone, it's a lot of their 1128 00:59:17,640 --> 00:59:21,200 Speaker 1: good guys who are able to make splits, split second decisions, 1129 00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:24,560 Speaker 1: and to make plays in tight quarters. And so that's 1130 00:59:24,600 --> 00:59:27,160 Speaker 1: where it's. It's a great marriage of xs and o's 1131 00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:29,440 Speaker 1: and Jimmy's and Joe's in the red zone. And I 1132 00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:31,440 Speaker 1: think a lot of it last year was had to 1133 00:59:31,480 --> 00:59:33,840 Speaker 1: do with, of course we're not us not having our quarterback, 1134 00:59:34,120 --> 00:59:37,400 Speaker 1: but also us not calling the right plays. We'll sometimes 1135 00:59:37,480 --> 00:59:39,240 Speaker 1: get down and he's like, I know, we're not going 1136 00:59:39,360 --> 00:59:41,880 Speaker 1: jumbo package right now, and then we go jumbo package 1137 00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:43,800 Speaker 1: and then it doesn't. It gets stifled and it's like, hey, 1138 00:59:43,840 --> 00:59:45,960 Speaker 1: here's what we should really be going four why. So 1139 00:59:46,120 --> 00:59:49,120 Speaker 1: it's it's it's it's that marriage of having the right 1140 00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:53,160 Speaker 1: players and then having the right personnel to execute it 1141 00:59:53,200 --> 00:59:56,680 Speaker 1: in the red zone because everything happens at a much 1142 00:59:57,160 --> 01:00:00,880 Speaker 1: much much faster pace, at a faster rate, and you 1143 01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:03,760 Speaker 1: have to be much more precise because you don't have 1144 01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:06,920 Speaker 1: the margin of the rest of the field behind you 1145 01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:08,640 Speaker 1: to work with, because you're going to run out the 1146 01:00:08,680 --> 01:00:11,680 Speaker 1: back of the end zone. Yeah, I agree. I'm trying 1147 01:00:11,760 --> 01:00:14,640 Speaker 1: not to get too panicky about it or freak out 1148 01:00:14,680 --> 01:00:18,440 Speaker 1: in any way about it, just because of that reason 1149 01:00:18,480 --> 01:00:21,400 Speaker 1: that you know, they maybe they didn't necessarily game plan 1150 01:00:21,560 --> 01:00:23,600 Speaker 1: obviously for what they would do in the red zone 1151 01:00:23,600 --> 01:00:26,880 Speaker 1: against that particular team. And there's a big difference again, 1152 01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:30,240 Speaker 1: like we've said, between Garrett Gilbert and Dak Prescott behind there. 1153 01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:33,320 Speaker 1: So I'm waiting for another game. I guess I'm trying. 1154 01:00:33,640 --> 01:00:35,640 Speaker 1: Maybe I am getting this side of the table is 1155 01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:40,880 Speaker 1: a little more calm, more optimistic. But if there's something 1156 01:00:40,920 --> 01:00:43,160 Speaker 1: that a coach can go back and look on, Kellen Moore, 1157 01:00:43,600 --> 01:00:45,880 Speaker 1: take a look at yourself. Right, you had red zone. 1158 01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:49,160 Speaker 1: You've had red zone walls for the last couple of years. 1159 01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:51,720 Speaker 1: It wasn't just last year and the year before that 1160 01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:54,680 Speaker 1: when you had a healthy Dak Prescott. So for Kelly Moore, 1161 01:00:54,760 --> 01:00:56,240 Speaker 1: you got to go ahead and look at yourself and 1162 01:00:56,400 --> 01:00:57,760 Speaker 1: look at the man in the mirror as well, and 1163 01:00:57,880 --> 01:01:01,240 Speaker 1: say let's make that change. Get your Michael Jackson on 1164 01:01:02,160 --> 01:01:03,960 Speaker 1: my brother, look at the man in the mirror and 1165 01:01:04,120 --> 01:01:06,520 Speaker 1: make that change. I like that, and so look that's 1166 01:01:07,160 --> 01:01:10,960 Speaker 1: we're gonna make a change too. And guys, I appreciate y'all. 1167 01:01:11,200 --> 01:01:14,880 Speaker 1: Thank y'all for talking me down today. Uh my freak 1168 01:01:14,920 --> 01:01:18,200 Speaker 1: out session has ended. I think it's it's on. It's on, 1169 01:01:18,800 --> 01:01:24,320 Speaker 1: two freakout sessions and we're on to Arizona on Friday. 1170 01:01:24,880 --> 01:01:28,200 Speaker 1: More assessments, more evaluations to go. But we got one down, 1171 01:01:28,280 --> 01:01:30,160 Speaker 1: three more to go, and we're praying for health and 1172 01:01:30,320 --> 01:01:35,000 Speaker 1: for Danny Serek, for Jesse Holly and for Kurt Daniels. 1173 01:01:35,240 --> 01:01:37,400 Speaker 1: What's our schedule next week? I'm sorry, you know I 1174 01:01:37,600 --> 01:01:41,680 Speaker 1: will leave that. The schedule next week is Tuesday and Thursday, 1175 01:01:41,920 --> 01:01:46,920 Speaker 1: but I could be wrong. Just keep Tuesday and Thursday 1176 01:01:46,960 --> 01:01:48,560 Speaker 1: of next week. I can I do my thing, do 1177 01:01:48,720 --> 01:01:52,000 Speaker 1: your things. I'm sorry, Cowboy Nation. I hope your team wins. 1178 01:01:52,200 --> 01:01:55,720 Speaker 1: It's been hanging with the boys. This has been a 1179 01:01:55,800 --> 01:01:59,360 Speaker 1: production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys 1180 01:01:59,440 --> 01:02:01,200 Speaker 1: Football How about you tell