1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:06,120 Speaker 1: This is John, this is them Okay Storytime podcast hosts. 2 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:09,840 Speaker 2: And we have some good story is coming up for you. 3 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 1: That's right. But before that, we have a little morsel 4 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:14,160 Speaker 1: of a two minute ad break from the sponsors keeping 5 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 1: the show delicious. 6 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 3: My boyfriend refused to let me meet his kids. Now 7 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 3: I'm rethinking things. 8 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:23,440 Speaker 2: Might not be your boyfriend anymore. 9 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:25,759 Speaker 3: I'm a thirty four female who has been in a 10 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 3: relationship with my thirty two male boyfriend for over two years. 11 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 3: I have a child from a previous relationship. He has 12 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 3: two from his and my child and my boyfriend get 13 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:37,600 Speaker 3: along great. But after all this time, I still haven't 14 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:39,839 Speaker 3: met his kids and it's been a real point of 15 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 3: frustration for me. By the way, this comes from a 16 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 3: money Rabbit thirty nine ten and if you want to 17 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:46,240 Speaker 3: submit your own stories, go to the r slash Okay 18 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 3: Storytime Separated And I'm Angie, I'm Riley, and Opie says 19 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:52,199 Speaker 3: each time I've asked about meeting them, he's had a 20 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 3: different excuse. The first time he said he wasn't sure 21 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 3: where they would sleep, and I responded by offering to 22 00:00:57,680 --> 00:01:00,040 Speaker 3: go half with him on beds for them to we 23 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 3: oh in my spare bedroom. Another time, he said that 24 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 3: the timing wasn't right, and I tried to be understanding 25 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:07,960 Speaker 3: and suggested that we can plan a date. We can 26 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 3: plan a playdate out somewhere for all of the children. 27 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 3: When he mentioned long drive being an issue, I started 28 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 3: getting frustrated. The drive is thirty minutes, he travels farther 29 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:20,959 Speaker 3: for work. And lastly, when he said that he didn't 30 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:23,959 Speaker 3: want to deal with his ex's complaints, everything started to 31 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 3: click and I lost it. No matter how I tried 32 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 3: to address each excuse, it never seemed to change the outcome. 33 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 3: His ex is in a new relationship and her new 34 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 3: partner has already met their kids. Knowing that her boyfriend 35 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 3: has been welcomed into that part of their lives just 36 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 3: highlights how excluded I feel. I've told my boyfriend how 37 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 3: all of this makes me feel like we're not in 38 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 3: the same page and that our relationship is stagnant. Knowing 39 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 3: all of this, he keeps reassuring me that it will 40 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 3: happen eventually, but he never gives a clear timeline. And 41 00:01:57,320 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 3: it's not just about meeting his kids, not on the 42 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 3: same page about the future either. I want to get 43 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 3: married and have another child someday, and while he says 44 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:08,240 Speaker 3: that he wants marriage in theory, we never really have 45 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 3: a serious conversation about it. As for having another child, 46 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 3: he's made it clear that he is not interested, and 47 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:16,240 Speaker 3: that's a big deal to me. On top of that, 48 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 3: he has child support obligations from his kid's mother, and 49 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:22,679 Speaker 3: while I understand that's a financial strain, he's not doing 50 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 3: anything to adjust it. He won't talk to his ex 51 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:27,800 Speaker 3: about renegotiating, he won't pick up extra work, and I 52 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 3: feel like I'm left carrying a lot of the load. 53 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 3: So here I am wondering do I cut my losses 54 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 3: and move on, or do I try to be more 55 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:38,919 Speaker 3: patient and understanding and see if he'll step up. I'd 56 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:41,799 Speaker 3: really appreciate any advice on how to navigate this. And 57 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:45,919 Speaker 3: there are some comments, but what would you give TOPI. 58 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:47,519 Speaker 2: See if he steps up. 59 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 3: How would he do that? 60 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:55,079 Speaker 2: I don't think that he can in this situation, because 61 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 2: you already have expectations that he's not meeting, and it's 62 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 2: sort of in this weird realm of things of like, 63 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 2: I don't know, I think it's I think it's wrap. 64 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 2: You still have patience, you can wait put along in 65 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 2: the sand. 66 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:10,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's it feels like a lot of problems 67 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 3: where it's like you just kind of need him to 68 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 3: change yea for the life that you want, and you 69 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:20,519 Speaker 3: know it's it's things where you can like talk to 70 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 3: him about it. But if he's not gonna change it 71 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 3: and he doesn't really like because he doesn't really understand, 72 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:27,640 Speaker 3: he doesn't really see things as an issue, then you 73 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:29,960 Speaker 3: can't control that. But we do have some comments. Commentary 74 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 3: number one says, it sounds like he doesn't want future 75 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 3: with you. Commentre number two says, or she's his side piece? 76 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 3: Op response and this one is downvoted. She says, whoa 77 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 3: hold on? Though I agree he may not have seen 78 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 3: a future with me, I was definitely not the side piece, honey. 79 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 3: Please do not project that energy on me. We were 80 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 3: together nearly every day these last two years, except except 81 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 3: if we had to go to work or if he 82 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 3: had his children. Even then we would be on the 83 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 3: phone the entire time he was away. If I was 84 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 3: side piece, there is no way that his main would 85 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 3: be okay with him constantly being around me or on 86 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 3: the phone with him and not notice or say something. 87 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 3: There was no indication of this so please stop projecting. 88 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 3: Comment Trip number three says, cut your losses. You have 89 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 3: fundamental differences in the current and further state of the 90 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:21,359 Speaker 3: relationship that he has no interest in discussing or changing. 91 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 3: He doesn't see a future. You can make someone want yo, 92 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 3: you can't make someone want another child to please move on. 93 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:30,359 Speaker 3: Comment trip number four says that you literally do not 94 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:32,840 Speaker 3: share the same goals or you haven't had a conversation 95 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 3: where you both agree on the same plans. There's no 96 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 3: real compatibility if your visions for the future don't match. 97 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 3: How can you expect a reassurance If he doesn't want 98 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 3: marriage or kids, hasn't encouraged you to meet his, and 99 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 3: isn't planning for the things that you want. Sometimes I wonder, 100 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 3: but I don't mean to be rude, but have you 101 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:53,720 Speaker 3: considered this? From what you've said, it sounds like he's 102 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:55,720 Speaker 3: He spends time at your house when he isn't busy, 103 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 3: but has no intention of doing anything beyond a casual relationship. 104 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 3: You let him be around your kids for two years 105 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:04,039 Speaker 3: without meeting his and that seems really odd to me. 106 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 3: He either doesn't have custody to take them overnight, or 107 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:10,360 Speaker 3: he doesn't want that is not the behavior of an 108 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:13,600 Speaker 3: active dat you want to marry and have more children 109 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:16,679 Speaker 3: with someone who doesn't want those things. This doesn't seem 110 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 3: sustainable or real. And that, honestly is a good point. 111 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:23,159 Speaker 3: That he might just not have custody because if he 112 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 3: also has to pay child sport, usually you don't have 113 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:28,599 Speaker 3: to pay child sport if you like have partial custody 114 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 3: right as. 115 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 2: A parent, you're either paying time or paying money exact 116 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 2: paying the time. 117 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:36,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, because she said that he is paying the time, 118 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:39,719 Speaker 3: like he'll have the kids over and that's when she 119 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:41,479 Speaker 3: doesn't see him. But they're on the phone all the time, 120 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 3: I guess, but that could be a perfect time to 121 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 3: hide an affair. 122 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 2: Are you smoking or are you sensing a an affair? 123 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 2: Like a cheating story? 124 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 3: Here catching a whiff, But we do have an update 125 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 3: three days later. So the day after I posted this, me, 126 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:57,920 Speaker 3: him and my child went to one of his family gatherings. 127 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:01,279 Speaker 3: Usually I don't bring my child because it's normally for 128 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:03,840 Speaker 3: adults only, but I didn't have anyone who could watch 129 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 3: my baby for me. He called one of his family 130 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 3: members and asked if any other children weren't gonna be there, 131 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 3: and get this his oldest child was going to be there, 132 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:15,279 Speaker 3: and he wasn't aware of this. Long story short. We 133 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 3: went to the gathering, I met his child, and to 134 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 3: be expected, it was awkward as heck, but I did 135 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 3: my best to try to interact as much as I could. 136 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 3: I felt good about the encounter, and I couldn't wait 137 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 3: to meet his youngest child. On the way home, we 138 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:30,679 Speaker 3: talked about it, and he lets it slip how crazy 139 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 3: it was that she was there. He just said that 140 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 3: he was just talking to one of his family members 141 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:38,479 Speaker 3: about how I haven't met his kids and why he 142 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:41,720 Speaker 3: admitted to this family member that he was intentionally dragging 143 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:43,720 Speaker 3: his feet, but wouldn't tell me more than that or. 144 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:46,280 Speaker 2: Why, because you're gonna find out he's bad dad. 145 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 3: This is crazy, he's telling you, like, yeah, I was 146 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 3: telling my family member that I was dragging my feet 147 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:56,600 Speaker 3: on purpose for this. But uh, but that was crazy 148 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:59,360 Speaker 3: that we better. It's like, okay, why tell me? 149 00:06:59,560 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 4: Like? 150 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 3: Does he just avoided the question if you ask? Because 151 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 3: I'm sure OPI has asked. When I tell y'all, that 152 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 3: pissed me off till no end, but I didn't say anything. 153 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 3: I stooed over this information on top of everything else 154 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 3: that I told you, the lack of being on the 155 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 3: same page as far as the future, I came to 156 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 3: the decision that I wanted it to be over, so 157 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 3: I ended it. He told me that he hasn't done anything. 158 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 3: I filed for custody and other things that I suggested, 159 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 3: because quote, if I left today or tomorrow, he would 160 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 3: have to face the consequences and I could go out 161 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 3: and live my life. I thought that I was making 162 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 3: a mistake breaking up with him, but once he said that, 163 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 3: I knew I made the right decision. So thank you 164 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 3: so much for the advice. I completely appreciate it. And 165 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 3: there are some relevant comments. But what do you think 166 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 3: about that. 167 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 2: His actions make so much more sense now, Yeah, why 168 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 2: you don't want to meet the kids right of certain things? 169 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 3: He says, yeah, because Yeah, usually, like if you have 170 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 3: kids with a past partner and you have a new partner, 171 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 3: you would usually wanna, you know, you'd want to be 172 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 3: pretty serious with them before they're introduced to the kids. 173 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 3: And maybe Ope didn't need things to be as serious 174 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 3: before introducing her kids to him because they've been together 175 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 3: for a couple of years. Yea, And it seems like 176 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 3: for those two years the kids met him, and you know, 177 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 3: it depends on the age of the kids too. I 178 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 3: feel like that that does depend on it, but usually 179 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 3: that's still the case. So it's possible that they just 180 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 3: didn't have the same idea on that. And you know, 181 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 3: if it's only been two years, maybe he just at 182 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 3: this point was just like, yeah, it's just I don't 183 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:39,200 Speaker 3: think it was really gonna work out, but like maybe 184 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 3: so all still hold on. But yeah, cool, that sucks. 185 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 3: But there are some comments. Comment number one says you 186 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:49,960 Speaker 3: were a placeholder. I'm sorry, but I'm glad you ended it. 187 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 3: Opie says that you saying that really hurts my feelings, 188 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 3: but I thank you nonetheless, I appreciate your input. Comment 189 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 3: to number two says, can uh you can just find 190 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 3: someone else on the same page as you, uh with 191 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 3: regards to that topic at hand. I know, easier said 192 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:09,440 Speaker 3: than done, but this isn't changing. This isn't a fix 193 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 3: it thingy Opie says, I'm realizing that now. I hope 194 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 3: I can find someone on the same page as me, 195 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 3: and you will, Opie. The commentary number three says that 196 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 3: not winning a child should have been a deal breaker. 197 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 3: That alone meant that you weren't compatible, but the rest 198 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:25,960 Speaker 3: is just weird. If you weren't in the car, he 199 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 3: probably would have had someone removed the child from the party. 200 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 3: Oh well, he's a loser and I have avoid dating 201 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 3: single dads, even as a single mom, because of stuff 202 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 3: like this. There is a reason that the mother of 203 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 3: his kids decided raising two kids alone was better than 204 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 3: doing it with him. And he showed you for two 205 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 3: years why Opie responds, and this is also downvoted, not 206 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:50,199 Speaker 3: defending him, but he broke it off with her when 207 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 3: she found out about me. She did not take it 208 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:54,719 Speaker 3: well at all. From that point on, she made sure 209 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 3: to make both of our lives a living. Hey, once 210 00:09:57,280 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 3: he saw that, it's like our relationship got put on hold. 211 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 3: I tried helping out, but he wouldn't take it. Comment 212 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 3: tre number four says he didn't want to file for 213 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:08,079 Speaker 3: custody of his own kids because he couldn't guarantee that 214 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 3: you would raise them for him. Yeah, that's wild too. 215 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 3: That's actually a good point, because, yeah, wouldn't you still 216 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 3: want to, you know, maybe file for custody anyway, at. 217 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 2: Least a little five form at least. 218 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 3: Because it sounds like she maybe was suggesting that, so 219 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:27,560 Speaker 3: it's like, you know, more comfortable for her to meet them. 220 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 3: But yeah, if he doesn't want to do that anyway, that's. 221 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:34,840 Speaker 2: Not slimmy, man. That just makes me want to crawl 222 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 2: in my skin. 223 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, what a thing irresponsible man, Opie says, didn't 224 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:44,959 Speaker 3: think of it that way. Commentary number five says, if 225 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:47,840 Speaker 3: I left today or tomorrow, he would have to face 226 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 3: the consequences and I could go out and live my 227 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:53,320 Speaker 3: life not being shady. But what else could this have meant? 228 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:53,560 Speaker 2: Girl? 229 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:56,439 Speaker 3: It sounds like he would only file if he had 230 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 3: a free babysitter, which is kind of wild. Opie says, 231 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 3: I was more focused on him getting his stuff and 232 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 3: leaving without it turning into a conflict at that specific moment. 233 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:07,960 Speaker 3: I interpreted that to me, and you weren't worth me 234 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 3: dealing with consequences that will come from her, If that 235 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:14,680 Speaker 3: makes sense. That's why I appreciate all your perspectives, because 236 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:17,080 Speaker 3: y'all are on at the outside looking in and much 237 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 3: more clearheaded than I am. Right now, I. 238 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:22,680 Speaker 2: Decided to break up with my girlfriend, but the lockdown 239 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:23,560 Speaker 2: changed my mind. 240 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 3: Ooh, it was a time of reflection. 241 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 2: The lockdown, my fiance twenty six female and I twenty 242 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 2: six male, have been dating since college, and as we graduated, 243 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 2: I propose to her. However, we decided to get married 244 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 2: only once we were both financially stable and comfortable with 245 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:43,720 Speaker 2: our jobs. Two years down the road, we've been living 246 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 2: together for that long and finally met those requirements. Unfortunately, 247 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 2: our love for each other has disappeared, or at least 248 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 2: the spark we used to have has been gone. By 249 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 2: the way, this comes from Throwaway one, one, two three, 250 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 2: and if you want to spa own stories, go to the 251 00:11:56,840 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 2: r side showcase story. Ti'm sub reread it. 252 00:11:58,400 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 3: I'm Riley and I'm Manjie No. 253 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 2: He says. We became increasingly busy. She was juggling her 254 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 2: graduate education plus a job, and I was consumed with work. 255 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:11,840 Speaker 2: I admit I'd been spending way too much time at 256 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 2: the office, and once I got home, I used my 257 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:17,319 Speaker 2: free time to get ahead with deadlines. She was constantly 258 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:21,199 Speaker 2: stressed balancing her education and teaching job. We never had 259 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:24,440 Speaker 2: time for each other anymore, but we were too busy 260 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:27,560 Speaker 2: even to notice. In March game she approached me with 261 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 2: the subject and we had a long emotional talk. We'd 262 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 2: known each other for so long, after all, and we 263 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:36,720 Speaker 2: were reaching our end after so many years. She was 264 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 2: already booking flies to stay with her parents for a while. 265 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 2: When the lockdown was announced, she decided not to go 266 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:46,440 Speaker 2: home in fear of possibly carrying the virus and infecting 267 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 2: her family. I agreed with that decision, and since then 268 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 2: we've been isolating together. We're both working from home now, 269 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 2: and she also finished her studies in April. Because of that, 270 00:12:57,160 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 2: we have been having a lot of free time. At 271 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:02,680 Speaker 2: first felt awkward. I didn't even know how to talk 272 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 2: to her anymore. I'd got used to short and empty 273 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 2: small talk with her, but she's always known how to 274 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:10,680 Speaker 2: get me out of my shell, so it didn't take 275 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:14,559 Speaker 2: long before we were having full conversations again. I discovered 276 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 2: she developed a newfound love for playing SIMS four. She 277 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 2: showed me the family she was currently playing with, and 278 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 2: I noticed it was herself and me plusidogna cat whose 279 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 2: names were our birth months. She'd been so shy initially, 280 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:31,320 Speaker 2: but she doesn't know that I was also feeling flustered. 281 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:34,440 Speaker 2: I think this was the start of me questioning our 282 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:37,320 Speaker 2: decision to break up. After that, it was a small 283 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:39,959 Speaker 2: things I caught her up on how my life had been, 284 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:43,199 Speaker 2: and since then she started pushing me to work out 285 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 2: with her and trying to get me to eat healthier foods. 286 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 2: I also came to discover new things about her in 287 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:52,840 Speaker 2: these months, which was surprisingly considering we'd been together for 288 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:55,560 Speaker 2: so many years. These past few months have been really good. 289 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:58,440 Speaker 2: I feel like I was brought back into the times 290 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 2: when we first met, and I feel like a high 291 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 2: schooler with a crush. The thing is, I'm not sure 292 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 2: if I can trust my feelings right now. The only 293 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 2: person I've had contact was was with her, except for 294 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 2: our frequent calls with our family and friends, and I 295 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 2: might just be having an infactuation. I also think we're 296 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 2: lucky since we both are very free right now, but 297 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 2: I keep thinking what happens after the lockdown ends? Will 298 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 2: we go back to being those busy people with too 299 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 2: little time for each other. I also don't know how 300 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 2: to approach her with this. She always has been the 301 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 2: talker in our relationship, but I'm also afraid to talk 302 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 2: about it and potentially ruin things for us right now. 303 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 2: What if she doesn't feel the same, What if she's 304 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 2: just treating me kindly because that's who she is a 305 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 2: genuinely kind person. The only hope I'm holding onto right 306 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 2: now is the fact that she hasn't planned on going 307 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 2: back to her family yet, despite domestic travel being allowed 308 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 2: in our country. How do I go about this? A 309 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 2: romantic gesture? 310 00:14:57,560 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 3: Ah, what would that be? 311 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 2: In the very large A romantic gesture be like, look, girl, 312 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 2: I've noticed that we've both been very busy, and I 313 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 2: don't like that for a relationship. Yeah, and I want 314 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 2: to change that, and I want to be with you 315 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 2: because this is I love being in love with you. 316 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 2: And if you guys are just busy, you guys are 317 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 2: both just busy. 318 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, and that happens. And I mean, yeah, if you're 319 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 3: gonna be in a marriage with anyone, that's gonna come up. 320 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 3: This stuff is not like, you know, obviously, if it's happening, 321 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 3: you know, very soon in their relationship, like just a 322 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 3: few years in, that's something that you want to, you know, 323 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 3: work on and see if that's something that you're both 324 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 3: like willing to work on. But in general, it's gonna 325 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 3: happen in a marriage eventually, So I understand. 326 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 2: But I think sometimes I was gonna speak from the 327 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 2: heart sometimes I think the devil's just trying to make 328 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 2: you busy so you don't enjoy what's in front of you. 329 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 2: If you just are busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, run 330 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 2: around and running around, you can't actually sit and enjoy 331 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:56,880 Speaker 2: your works or like what you got around you. 332 00:15:57,280 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, you take some time to reflect didn't appreciate. 333 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 2: So after posting that nothing really happened, I spend the 334 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 2: day reflecting on what kind of future I see and 335 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 2: want with her. I also thought a lot about the past, 336 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 2: how we messed it up, how we both got too 337 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 2: loss in our jobs. My original post, I asked if 338 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:19,239 Speaker 2: what I'm feeling could be an infactuation that would disappear 339 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 2: as quickly as it came. But I realized that my 340 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 2: feelings for her never really disappeared to begin with. It's 341 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 2: like my heart just went into a deep sleep and 342 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 2: I forgot how much I cared for her. I think 343 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 2: some of you may know that I'm not really good 344 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 2: at communicating my feelings. I tend to keep things to myself, 345 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 2: and my fiance is one of the few people who 346 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 2: can be patient with that. Some suggested writing her a letter, 347 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 2: a note, or marrying her, and sims I ended up 348 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 2: with drafts of sappy letters that I scrapped up and 349 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 2: a sad attempt to recreate us in SIMS. But still 350 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 2: I wanted to make an effort to show her what 351 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 2: I couldn't say through words. I heard about her wanting 352 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 2: a few DLCs for the SIMS in the past, so 353 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 2: I had the idea to get her a few. The 354 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:07,960 Speaker 2: SIMS docs are pretty expensive, especially in our currency. I 355 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:10,879 Speaker 2: surprised her by stealing her laptop for a few hours, 356 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:12,679 Speaker 2: and once I gave it back to her, she was 357 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 2: elated and so happy. It was really nice to see 358 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 2: her get excited over it. We played SIMS that whole 359 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 2: day and tried to solve the mystery in Strangerville a 360 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:25,639 Speaker 2: game back in the SIMS. It was so fun. The 361 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 2: next day I found her in the kitchen trying to 362 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 2: bake something. It was a blueberry cheesecake recipe she saw 363 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 2: on YouTube. I basically became her cooking assistant that day, 364 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:36,199 Speaker 2: helping her as much as I could. We know it 365 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 2: with a pretty decent outcome, and that I bet would 366 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 2: have tasted better if I hadn't messed up so much. 367 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:45,119 Speaker 2: She still said she had so much fun and loved 368 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:49,360 Speaker 2: the cheesecake. Though the next day something important happened. Were 369 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:51,960 Speaker 2: basically snuggled up on the couch playing when our sims 370 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 2: just autonomously tried for a baby in the bed. It 371 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:59,159 Speaker 2: was hilarious and we initially laughed about it, but we'll 372 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:02,439 Speaker 2: get pretty silent. Closed their laptop and hugged me tightly 373 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 2: without saying anything. I think that was my realization that 374 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:08,199 Speaker 2: she feels the same as I, so I had to 375 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 2: speak up. I'm still impressed on myself for managing to 376 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:14,199 Speaker 2: talk without choking up, basically opening up the conversation, like 377 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 2: asking if she was planning to go to her parents soon. 378 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:19,399 Speaker 2: She said no, she doesn't really feel like it yet. 379 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 2: I asked her why, and she told me she wanted 380 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:25,159 Speaker 2: to stay. I told her I wanted to stay. We 381 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:28,159 Speaker 2: went to sleep together that night and just huddled together, 382 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:32,440 Speaker 2: even though we didn't really exuppicively say it. I think 383 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 2: we're now aware of each other's feelings and it feels 384 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:36,439 Speaker 2: like a really huge improvement to me. 385 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:37,159 Speaker 5: Great. 386 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:40,160 Speaker 3: All right, so maybe you know they weren't getting spicy 387 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:42,240 Speaker 3: inspired by the sims. I think they were just thinking 388 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 3: about children. 389 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 2: But we're just emotionally spicy. Sure, they're like, oh see, 390 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 2: you want to stay like. 391 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 3: Ooh, maybe maybe kids wouldn't be such a bad idea. 392 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:58,080 Speaker 3: Maybe these sims are are are learning from us, and 393 00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 3: maybe these sims are taking over it copies of us, 394 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 3: and they know before we did that we do want 395 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:09,199 Speaker 3: kids and we should do that. Then they start doing 396 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 3: That's a black mirror episode for sure. Boom, I think 397 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:14,600 Speaker 3: there actually is a black mirror episode like that. There's 398 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 3: like little people in a freezer or something. 399 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:19,199 Speaker 2: Uh Nope, that's love, Death and Robots. 400 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 3: Okay, okay, okay. 401 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:24,359 Speaker 2: So earlier we ate breakfast together. We weren't as chatty 402 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:26,199 Speaker 2: as we've been in the last few months, but the 403 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 2: silence was comforting. We also watched Knives Out together. We 404 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 2: haven't had the conversation yet, but I'm going to try 405 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:34,200 Speaker 2: to bring it up to her tonight. I'm really glad 406 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:38,359 Speaker 2: this whole ordeal went much nicer than I expected it would, 407 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 2: and I'm relieved I didn't let my downs get the 408 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 2: best to me, though I still have to get better 409 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 2: with how I communicate things. I'm going to learn for her. 410 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 2: We have a second update. 411 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:53,159 Speaker 3: Oh cis this is really sweet. I was really worried 412 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 3: that that it's like the opposite. And I know the 413 00:19:57,640 --> 00:19:59,480 Speaker 3: title did not say it, but at first, when I 414 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:01,199 Speaker 3: heard the title, I thought it was like, oh, I 415 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 3: was feeling good about my relationship and. 416 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 2: Till the VID got it. 417 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 3: But I'm very glad that it was not that it's 418 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:08,480 Speaker 3: the complete opposite. 419 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:12,439 Speaker 2: It did some good. Yeah, when it came around. At 420 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:15,720 Speaker 2: least you save one relationship when you say all that 421 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 2: was worth it? 422 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 3: Isn't he good? Isn't it good that this all happened? 423 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:25,159 Speaker 3: But yeah, because we do know that. I think we've 424 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:27,159 Speaker 3: heard some stories, or I wouldn't be surprised if we 425 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 3: heard some stories that were the opposite. 426 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 2: Oh no, it was mainly the opposite. Yeah, we have 427 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 2: a second update, hie. Okay. I posted this thinking the 428 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 2: same people who saw my last post would respond, and 429 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:41,879 Speaker 2: seeing that a few users wanted a bat want an 430 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 2: update back then, so I was thought, Hey, what the heck? 431 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:46,960 Speaker 2: Why do not give a little update right now and 432 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:49,880 Speaker 2: leave it at that. Now I have five times more 433 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 2: the audience than I had last time. Right now, my 434 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:55,120 Speaker 2: fiance sleeping next to me. Yes, we have the talk. 435 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:58,120 Speaker 2: As soon as I posted this, I logged out, gathered 436 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:00,240 Speaker 2: myself so I could tell her what's been on my 437 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:03,159 Speaker 2: mind for a couple of months. It's not really something 438 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 2: so exciting. Basically just sat down and talked about what 439 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 2: was wrong before. I told her the things I said 440 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 2: in the last post, and she admitted to worrying about 441 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 2: what happens after lockdown gets fully lifted too. We both 442 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:19,400 Speaker 2: acknowledge that we worked too hard to become financially stable 443 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 2: so that we could get married right now. All we 444 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:24,920 Speaker 2: could do is promise and talk about how we were 445 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:28,680 Speaker 2: going to manage our time better. Then we talked about 446 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 2: our feelings. I got to tell her I love her 447 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 2: again for the first time in years probably, and she 448 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:35,880 Speaker 2: told me the same. You haven't told her you loved 449 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 2: her in years. 450 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:39,440 Speaker 3: I mean, they said that they were having these problems 451 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 3: and were debating. They were talking about like she almost 452 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 3: moved away. Literally right before this the VID crashed down. 453 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:49,400 Speaker 3: She was gonna move with her parents to separate. 454 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:52,879 Speaker 2: Basically, after that it was back to lighter conversation. We 455 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 2: basically just bonded until she fell asleep. This is beautiful. 456 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:58,160 Speaker 3: It's beautiful. I like it. I like this story. 457 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:00,640 Speaker 2: I honestly thought only I had full of people would 458 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:03,160 Speaker 2: see my post. I made sure to use Reddit because 459 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:06,639 Speaker 2: this isn't really a big platform in our country, and 460 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:08,880 Speaker 2: I was sure she wouldn't see this post. But now 461 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:11,399 Speaker 2: there were like twenty thousand up votes. As I'm typing this, 462 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 2: I think she might stumble upon this post sooner or later. 463 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:17,399 Speaker 2: Well then, I know she's going to be complaining a 464 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:19,439 Speaker 2: lot about this, but she'd be glad to know that 465 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:23,119 Speaker 2: a lot of people found a relationship wholesome. Thank you 466 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 2: to the comments, and you guys did a lot for me. Great, 467 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:28,360 Speaker 2: I don't care. Great, dude, that's amazing. 468 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:33,680 Speaker 3: It is really wholesome. My fiance refused to have intimacy 469 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 3: with me after she got what she wanted. We know 470 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:39,639 Speaker 3: it wasn't the d I'm mail twenty five. Have been 471 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 3: with my fiance, female twenty six for three years. She 472 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 3: wanted a baby after two to three years of dating. 473 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:48,200 Speaker 3: I wanted to wait until after marriage and buying a house, 474 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 3: but after a while I gave in and she got 475 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 3: her contraception removed. By the way, this comes from a cottage, 476 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:57,000 Speaker 3: Pie and gravy and if you want to submit your 477 00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:58,880 Speaker 3: own stories, go to the r slash. Okay, sorry time 478 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:02,120 Speaker 3: separated at time, Angie. I'm Riley and Opie says, as 479 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:05,399 Speaker 3: soon as she got the contraception out, she wanted to 480 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:09,119 Speaker 3: have spicy sleep every single day. She was flirty, attentive, 481 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:13,439 Speaker 3: and loving, and naturally, I enjoyed the attention and the 482 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 3: love making. After a few months, she got a positive 483 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:19,479 Speaker 3: pregnancy test, and I was happy that she was happy 484 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:23,120 Speaker 3: and we were building a family. But I noticed as 485 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 3: soon as we got a positive result, she stopped being loving. 486 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:29,359 Speaker 3: She didn't really touch me. After a few months, we 487 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:33,200 Speaker 3: hadn't had spicy sleep since the positive test. I took 488 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:36,120 Speaker 3: it down as hormones and didn't want to push her. 489 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:38,880 Speaker 3: I know some women don't like being touched when pregnant, 490 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:42,120 Speaker 3: and her being comfortable was my main priority. We had 491 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:45,119 Speaker 3: a baby boy nine months ago, and after all this time, 492 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 3: she still won't touch me. She doesn't kiss me, and 493 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:51,439 Speaker 3: we definitely haven't made love for over a year and 494 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:54,240 Speaker 3: a half. I've tried talking to her and she doesn't 495 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 3: see any issues with our relationship. She says me being 496 00:23:57,119 --> 00:23:59,239 Speaker 3: with her is all the love she needs, but I 497 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 3: need to feel some intimacy. If I bring up spicy 498 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:04,880 Speaker 3: sleep topic, she'll make it sound like I'm a spicy 499 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:07,960 Speaker 3: sleep perv or in that I'm only interested in her body, 500 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:11,320 Speaker 3: But it's even the kisses when I come home from work, 501 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 3: sleeping back to back, or her on the couch with 502 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:18,000 Speaker 3: a travel with the travel cot to note that I've 503 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:21,680 Speaker 3: been helping with the housework. I cook, wash up, watch 504 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:24,160 Speaker 3: our son when she needs an app She still gets 505 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:26,720 Speaker 3: her hair and nails done, and she's a stay at 506 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:28,919 Speaker 3: home mom and I work fifty to sixty hours a 507 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 3: week sometimes, but I try to make sure that she's 508 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 3: not overwhelmed. And I do not suspect that this is depression. 509 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 3: The only time she is touchy feely or kisses me 510 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:40,920 Speaker 3: is around her family. It's like keeping up appearances. So 511 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:44,359 Speaker 3: I've come to the realization, or I suspect at least 512 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 3: that before we started dating, she only ever dated black guys. 513 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:52,359 Speaker 3: Her family is super discriminatory and they don't approve of 514 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 3: interracial dating, so they didn't accept her choices. With her 515 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:59,160 Speaker 3: ex things did not work their way, so I suspect 516 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:01,199 Speaker 3: that maybe she got with me as a way to 517 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 3: get her parents off of her back. My head is 518 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 3: all over the place. Is she having an affair? Is 519 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:10,240 Speaker 3: she having a mental health crisis? Is the baby mine? 520 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:12,560 Speaker 3: Although I'm not sure she would sleep with another white guy, 521 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 3: so i'd probably know if my son is mine. I've 522 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 3: spoken with her so many times over this, and she 523 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 3: overlooks everything. She says that we have enough affection, and 524 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:24,719 Speaker 3: she will still say love you when I say it? 525 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 3: So how can I move forward with this? And there 526 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:29,880 Speaker 3: are some comments, but yeah, what do you think it'll 527 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:30,439 Speaker 3: be funny? 528 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:33,439 Speaker 2: So if you guys are talking about like, yeah, like 529 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:41,320 Speaker 2: what's your favorite actors, she's like Tinzel Washington, Michael B. Jordan, Yeah, 530 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:43,920 Speaker 2: Morgan Freeman. 531 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:44,240 Speaker 3: Oh my god. 532 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 2: And you're like, dude, that uh, you know Brad Pig guys, 533 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:50,000 Speaker 2: he's pretty you know cool. 534 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:55,360 Speaker 3: It's like not at all. Yeah, no, this is this 535 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:58,240 Speaker 3: is very interesting because that is just kind of weird behavior. 536 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 3: Like if they weren't all that, you know, intimate before 537 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:03,639 Speaker 3: trying to have the baby, I mean it seemed like, 538 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 3: you know, it's probably just a kind of normal amount. 539 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:08,120 Speaker 3: You know, he didn't seem to have a problem with it, 540 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:12,480 Speaker 3: but then you know, she's trying to have a baby, 541 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:15,920 Speaker 3: and then right after she immediately is like done, We're good, 542 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:18,679 Speaker 3: we don't have to anymore. And even the kisses and stuff, 543 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:21,080 Speaker 3: because like I get that you know, for some people 544 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 3: like going a bit further into intimacy with spicy sleep 545 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 3: and stuff, that can be a tatty subject or people 546 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:31,160 Speaker 3: have different preferences and stuff. But even just like kissing, 547 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:33,800 Speaker 3: if you don't even want to kiss or like cuddle 548 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:37,280 Speaker 3: with your partner, it's like that's that's intimacy that that 549 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:40,320 Speaker 3: probably should be there. And if it's not not any. 550 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 2: Spicy intimacy, the other question, how do you not know this? 551 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 2: What do you mean that you know your wife is 552 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:49,560 Speaker 2: into black guys? How do you or like you know 553 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:51,360 Speaker 2: what your wife's type is? How do you not know that? 554 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 3: I mean he did, he told us, I mean he. 555 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 2: Does now, but it didn't really seem like going into it. 556 00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:59,639 Speaker 3: Well, I think he knew, because it's not like she 557 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:02,240 Speaker 3: just told him this. This is he's kind of brought 558 00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:03,640 Speaker 3: it up in a way that like he already knew, 559 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:05,520 Speaker 3: but maybe he just didn't think of it, or maybe 560 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:07,240 Speaker 3: it was something that he was kind of insecure with 561 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 3: at first dating her, but then kind of was like, well, 562 00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:13,480 Speaker 3: I mean, I know she loves me, but now that 563 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:16,199 Speaker 3: this is happening, he's kind of like thinking back to that. 564 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:19,199 Speaker 3: I think that's what's going on. Here, but we do 565 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 3: have some comments. Comment number one says she got what 566 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:25,119 Speaker 3: she wanted. The red flag was not waiting for the marriage. 567 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 3: Don't marry her. It's not like you have to worry 568 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:31,119 Speaker 3: about more kids because she doesn't touch you. For the 569 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 3: love of God, don't get married. And Opie says, kind 570 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:37,960 Speaker 3: of glad we are married. Makes leaving slightly easier. Now 571 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:41,040 Speaker 3: I only have to worry about custody and not divorce 572 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:44,840 Speaker 3: or assets. And Opie also says in later comments, I'm 573 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:47,240 Speaker 3: staying with my sister at the moment for obvious reasons. 574 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:49,440 Speaker 3: I feel too embarrassed to speak to my friends about 575 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:51,840 Speaker 3: this since they tend to have good marriages, and I've 576 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:54,400 Speaker 3: never really spoken about this topic with men. I've only 577 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 3: briefly spoken to my sister about this. Late at night, 578 00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:00,159 Speaker 3: I get wasted and all sorts of scenarios come to 579 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 3: my head. That's when I start posting. I think I 580 00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:07,720 Speaker 3: know the truth. She is not attracted to me, whether 581 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:10,400 Speaker 3: it's because I'm a white man or the love is gone. 582 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:13,879 Speaker 3: I just want her honesty. If she only used me 583 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:16,000 Speaker 3: for a baby, I could get over that because I 584 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,199 Speaker 3: love my son dearly. But I just wish that she 585 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:20,679 Speaker 3: was honest with me instead of dragging this out for years. 586 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 3: I want to find someone who wants me and grows 587 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:25,560 Speaker 3: as a couple with me. I think I'm ready to leave, 588 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:28,520 Speaker 3: but I'm dreading the conversation and all the blame being 589 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:31,480 Speaker 3: pointed at me, plus her parents will be pissed for 590 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:34,400 Speaker 3: her obvious reason. We do have an update, So first off, 591 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:36,399 Speaker 3: I would like to thank everyone for their advice on 592 00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 3: my original post. It really did help me see since 593 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:42,760 Speaker 3: and also that I am not alone. For months, I've 594 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:45,000 Speaker 3: been bottling up my feelings and a shame to speak 595 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 3: to my family and friends about it, since my fiance 596 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:50,000 Speaker 3: would shut me down every time I tried to bring 597 00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:52,040 Speaker 3: up my feelings. I left the other night to stay 598 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:54,840 Speaker 3: at my sister's after I walked out on her. After 599 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,320 Speaker 3: reading all the comments, I admit I felt more angry 600 00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:00,160 Speaker 3: than before. I'm angry at myself for not seeing all 601 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,680 Speaker 3: the red flags, her falling for her lies, and for 602 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:06,880 Speaker 3: not addressing all this sooner. But here we are, so 603 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:09,880 Speaker 3: I left to cool off. This evening, I went back 604 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:12,200 Speaker 3: home in hopes of having a talk with her. I 605 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:14,160 Speaker 3: wanted to see my son, and I agreed to stay 606 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:16,680 Speaker 3: the night to spend time with him regardless. After we 607 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:19,240 Speaker 3: put him to bed, I asked to talk about our issues. 608 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:21,760 Speaker 3: I told her how I was feeling, how she doesn't 609 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:24,920 Speaker 3: make me feel wanted or loved. I don't feel attractive 610 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:27,480 Speaker 3: to her. I kind of just exploded all of my 611 00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 3: feelings and she then told me that she wants to 612 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 3: be intimate with me, but she has body issues since 613 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:36,280 Speaker 3: the pregnancy. For context, she is petite and slim, she 614 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:38,480 Speaker 3: went back to her normal weight after birth, has no 615 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 3: stretch marks. She still posts selfies on social media and 616 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:44,760 Speaker 3: even full body shots too. She always has appeared confident 617 00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 3: about herself and her weight. Okay, so lamb, excuse Yeah, yeah, 618 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:54,160 Speaker 3: she's trying to get away with that. She's what you'd say, hi, maintenance, hair, nails, makeup, 619 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:57,080 Speaker 3: et cetera, and looks after herself very well. And since 620 00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:59,560 Speaker 3: pregnancy and birth or I have not noticed any changes 621 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 3: in herself as a person. I'm guessing that is referring 622 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:04,760 Speaker 3: to like I think he meant to say, I have 623 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:08,640 Speaker 3: not noticed, and I'm assuming that it refers to like 624 00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:12,680 Speaker 3: how she puts herself together. But then I thought, why 625 00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:15,840 Speaker 3: won't you touch me, hug me, kiss me, even if 626 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 3: you didn't feel confident with your weight. These these things 627 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:21,280 Speaker 3: just did not make sense to me. Anyway. She wanted 628 00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:23,520 Speaker 3: a cigarette, so I sent her to the shop to 629 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:25,360 Speaker 3: buy a pack of her own. She gave me some 630 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:28,040 Speaker 3: time to think. I figured if she did have body 631 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:30,200 Speaker 3: issues like she said, and she wants to be affectionate 632 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:33,360 Speaker 3: with me, then surely she would get therapy. I'll ask 633 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:35,680 Speaker 3: her when she gets back from the shop. I didn't 634 00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 3: know where to add, but before she went to get SIGs, 635 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:41,640 Speaker 3: she mentioned about starting the wedding planning and having a 636 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 3: fresh start, that she would be more affectionate to me. Well, no, 637 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:47,960 Speaker 3: thank you. So interesting. 638 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:51,760 Speaker 2: Okay, she's promising it rather than yeah, doing it. Weird, 639 00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 2: that's weird. 640 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:55,200 Speaker 3: And the fact that she is trying to have a 641 00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:58,600 Speaker 3: fresh start but then immediately is jumping into marriage ideas, 642 00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:00,760 Speaker 3: it just makes it seem like she's only doing that 643 00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:03,760 Speaker 3: because she knows that he wants marriage or has wanted it, 644 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:07,000 Speaker 3: you know, because you know, originally he didn't want kids 645 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:11,760 Speaker 3: until marriage yet, and he said that he caved and 646 00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:14,160 Speaker 3: decided that like, okay, yeah, maybe we can have kids. 647 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:15,720 Speaker 3: Not a great way to start to have kids. 648 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:18,440 Speaker 2: In general, usually both people want to have kids. Yeah, 649 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:20,360 Speaker 2: you won't have a good not right now, I say, 650 00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:21,120 Speaker 2: right now, you want to have a. 651 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:24,440 Speaker 3: Kid, well, eventually, but I think he wanted Yes, she 652 00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:31,520 Speaker 3: wants a kid, now, now what I said. Eventually She 653 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:34,200 Speaker 3: came back and I had a number of my therapists 654 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:36,520 Speaker 3: ready to put into her phone. She got a bit 655 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:38,440 Speaker 3: pissed and said that she didn't need a therapist and 656 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:40,880 Speaker 3: now there's nothing wrong with her. She doesn't need to 657 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:45,200 Speaker 3: speak to someone. So I said, cool, no worries. After 658 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:47,040 Speaker 3: a bit of silence, I told her that I want 659 00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:50,480 Speaker 3: to separate and I'm only interested in determining custody of 660 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:51,040 Speaker 3: our son. 661 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:53,600 Speaker 2: He's on it. He has a mission. 662 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:57,440 Speaker 3: Okay, well good, I mean he knows what he wants. 663 00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:00,520 Speaker 3: She started crying and begging for me to under stand her. 664 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:02,440 Speaker 3: I said that she gives me nothing for me to 665 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:05,680 Speaker 3: understand her. Yeah she doesn't even yeah, she doesn't. She 666 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,280 Speaker 3: actually put her arms around me and helped me, and 667 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:10,800 Speaker 3: I realized how long it had been since she touched me. 668 00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:13,840 Speaker 3: Tears started flowing from both of us, and we agreed 669 00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:16,320 Speaker 3: to finish speaking about it in the morning. She gave 670 00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:17,959 Speaker 3: me a peck on the cheek and then went up 671 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:22,160 Speaker 3: to sleep well naturally. I'm still curious. I did not 672 00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:25,040 Speaker 3: get any answers from our chat. She wants to be affectionate, 673 00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:28,040 Speaker 3: but she can't because she doesn't like her body, But 674 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:30,480 Speaker 3: then she can all of a sudden put her arms 675 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:32,840 Speaker 3: around me and peck my cheek. Why was it so 676 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:34,480 Speaker 3: easy for her to touch me in that moment? 677 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:39,600 Speaker 2: But it's a rap. She's using her affection to manipulate you. Yeah, 678 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:42,160 Speaker 2: do something to hang on to exactly. I'm glad you 679 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:44,880 Speaker 2: can see through it and that you're actually you know, 680 00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:46,120 Speaker 2: breaking up. 681 00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:49,800 Speaker 3: Right, cause like you know, if I like try to 682 00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:52,600 Speaker 3: look at this, I don't know, objectively or try to 683 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:55,800 Speaker 3: just understand all of it, it's like maybe she could, 684 00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:58,440 Speaker 3: like if that was true what she was saying, which 685 00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:01,160 Speaker 3: I don't really think it is, like her body image, 686 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:03,680 Speaker 3: then like you know, maybe she was just pushing through 687 00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:06,080 Speaker 3: for that to like try to get him to stay. 688 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:10,280 Speaker 3: But I'm sure that OPI you know, kind of felt 689 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:13,760 Speaker 3: the genuineness of it, I guess, or like if the hug, 690 00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:15,880 Speaker 3: if it wasn't just like a like a quick little 691 00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:18,040 Speaker 3: you know what I mean, or like a side hug, 692 00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:21,200 Speaker 3: like I'm sure if they hugged and started crying together. 693 00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:23,640 Speaker 3: I'm sure that was like, no, you would have to 694 00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:26,000 Speaker 3: be comfortable with touching me to be able to do 695 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:29,480 Speaker 3: this right now, you know, so where I am. It's 696 00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:33,200 Speaker 3: currently two fifteen am. She went to sleep about twelve 697 00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:37,040 Speaker 3: ish anyway, forgive me reddits, but I checked her phone. 698 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:40,080 Speaker 3: I just had a gut feeling that she just gave 699 00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:44,240 Speaker 3: me a fake excuse. Lo and behold, she is definitely 700 00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:49,040 Speaker 3: not attracted to me. On her browser, she had interracial corn, 701 00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:53,040 Speaker 3: like a lot of it. She had a Snapchat. I've 702 00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:55,480 Speaker 3: never used Snapchat, so I'm not sure how to use it, 703 00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:58,080 Speaker 3: but she has loads of messages but no texts, so 704 00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:01,160 Speaker 3: it's all deleted. In the whole time we've been together, 705 00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:04,960 Speaker 3: she has never used Snapchat, and surprisingly all the little 706 00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:08,279 Speaker 3: emoji people are black guys, so safe to say she's 707 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:13,360 Speaker 3: been getting herself off on her fantasies. Yikes, dude, yikes. 708 00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:16,160 Speaker 2: All right, well that was fun. You got a kid 709 00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:17,359 Speaker 2: now and it's time to move on. 710 00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:20,479 Speaker 3: Yeah, she literally tried to just straight up baby trap 711 00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:25,799 Speaker 3: you for her parents' appearances. That is so unfortunate. You're 712 00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:28,920 Speaker 3: just like a victim to all that. Yeah, my goodness, 713 00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:31,239 Speaker 3: not fun. I've taken pics of what I found in 714 00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:34,239 Speaker 3: case she denies, deletes, or I need the evidence. I 715 00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:36,399 Speaker 3: fear she will spend this all on me to keep 716 00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:39,719 Speaker 3: up appearances, so I need to protect myself. So I'm 717 00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:42,840 Speaker 3: up all night now with all this information. I feel 718 00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:45,239 Speaker 3: like a fool. I can't leave in the middle of 719 00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:47,040 Speaker 3: the night, but I don't want to be here or 720 00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:49,080 Speaker 3: even look at her in the morning. All I want 721 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:50,799 Speaker 3: now is to make sure that I see my son 722 00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:53,000 Speaker 3: and him be in a healthy environment. 723 00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:54,359 Speaker 2: Sam here ogi host. 724 00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:56,319 Speaker 5: We're gonna get back to these stories, but here's three 725 00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:57,640 Speaker 5: minutes fads from our sponsors. 726 00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:01,799 Speaker 4: First, my girlfriend decided to quit her job because I 727 00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:02,880 Speaker 4: won the lottery. 728 00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:04,960 Speaker 5: That's mighty presumptuits. 729 00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:08,719 Speaker 4: My girlfriend, the thirty female, and I, thirty one male, 730 00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:13,160 Speaker 4: have a pretty tumultuous relationship, which has seen us broken 731 00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:16,920 Speaker 4: up twice already. I've been the initiator of the split 732 00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:22,160 Speaker 4: both times, always because of her extreme, unrelenting cleanness and 733 00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:25,839 Speaker 4: lack of trust. We don't live with each other obviously. 734 00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:29,400 Speaker 4: By the way, this comes from exile Proof Frock and 735 00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:31,160 Speaker 4: if you want to submit your own stories, go to 736 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:33,120 Speaker 4: the r slash Okay storytime subreddit. 737 00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:35,120 Speaker 6: I'm Carly, I'm Sophia. 738 00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:38,080 Speaker 4: And I'm Keon, and Opie says why we're still together 739 00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:40,920 Speaker 4: is a bit of a mystery to me. I love her, 740 00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:44,120 Speaker 4: for sure, and we can get along well together, but 741 00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:47,520 Speaker 4: we also have very different ideas of what constitutes an 742 00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:51,240 Speaker 4: acceptable amount of personal space and privacy. When I try 743 00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:54,040 Speaker 4: to tell her that she is smothering me, she basically 744 00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:57,320 Speaker 4: shrugs and says she isn't changing. The past two months, 745 00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:00,600 Speaker 4: we've had a slight shelter from our usual storms, and 746 00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:03,640 Speaker 4: it hasn't been as bad. She's still very clingy and 747 00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:07,160 Speaker 4: constantly accuses me of chatting and meeting other girls. I 748 00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:10,160 Speaker 4: haven't keeps close tabs on what I am doing or 749 00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:12,759 Speaker 4: who I'm hanging out with, et cetera, et cetera, But 750 00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:16,480 Speaker 4: I keep at it because I believe I'd be alone 751 00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:19,440 Speaker 4: for a long time without her and am frankly afraid 752 00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:22,279 Speaker 4: of that. It doesn't help that she's also told me 753 00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:24,759 Speaker 4: much the same that I would be. 754 00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:28,080 Speaker 6: Alone without her. Oh cut to a few weeks. 755 00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:31,200 Speaker 4: Ago, I won a lot of money in the lottery, 756 00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:34,279 Speaker 4: paid in lump sum. It's all very new to me 757 00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:37,640 Speaker 4: and very very surreal, and I haven't really done much 758 00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:40,600 Speaker 4: with it all yet, but talk to some financial advisors 759 00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:43,920 Speaker 4: to figure it all out. But it's readily acknowledged. I 760 00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:45,560 Speaker 4: am in a position to retire. 761 00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:50,240 Speaker 5: Bam, break up with your girlfriend and retire. 762 00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:53,080 Speaker 4: The only two things I have done so far is 763 00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:55,600 Speaker 4: take a month off from work to sort through things 764 00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:59,040 Speaker 4: and get very wasted on expensive scotch with my sister. 765 00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:02,200 Speaker 4: I have a lot of friends right now, I know 766 00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:04,760 Speaker 4: who my friends are and plan on doing nice things 767 00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:08,239 Speaker 4: for them all. However, my girlfriend is now asking me 768 00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:10,600 Speaker 4: if she can quit her job. When I asked her 769 00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:13,400 Speaker 4: why she would, she said because I have money, that 770 00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:15,920 Speaker 4: if she had won that much money, she'd have given 771 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,759 Speaker 4: me X amount of money without a thought, because that's 772 00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:22,120 Speaker 4: what people do for those they love. Anyways, it didn't 773 00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:24,960 Speaker 4: take long for her to start accusing me of wanting 774 00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:27,160 Speaker 4: to ditch her now that I'm rich, and how she 775 00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:29,919 Speaker 4: was so stupid not to have seen it before all 776 00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:32,640 Speaker 4: because I don't want to give her a poop load 777 00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:33,200 Speaker 4: of money. 778 00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:36,160 Speaker 6: I am in an awkward position. Now what am I 779 00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:36,560 Speaker 6: to do? 780 00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:37,120 Speaker 2: Break up? 781 00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:40,759 Speaker 4: I am not a stingy or shallow person, but this 782 00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:43,160 Speaker 4: relationship was rocky before all of this. 783 00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:46,560 Speaker 3: I have advice break up, give me the money, breakup 784 00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:47,279 Speaker 3: and then break up? 785 00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:49,479 Speaker 6: Give me the money? Can I quit my job? 786 00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:52,320 Speaker 5: Can not go with my job? I love you, I 787 00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:52,759 Speaker 5: love you. 788 00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:55,160 Speaker 4: I say as though I have a job outside of 789 00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:57,359 Speaker 4: my day yere, this is my job. 790 00:37:57,520 --> 00:37:59,000 Speaker 6: This is my job, guys, and I like it. 791 00:37:59,000 --> 00:37:59,680 Speaker 5: I don't want to quit. 792 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:01,960 Speaker 6: I'd keep coming even if I got money. 793 00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:02,400 Speaker 2: You need to. 794 00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:05,279 Speaker 4: I am afraid of looking shallow, I guess, even though 795 00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:08,359 Speaker 4: I believe I am being practical, and while I am 796 00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:11,880 Speaker 4: not necessarily clamoring for us to split right now, I 797 00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:13,880 Speaker 4: feel like this will be an issue as long as 798 00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:14,440 Speaker 4: we're together. 799 00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:18,880 Speaker 3: Then don't be together, quit and then break up with 800 00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:20,320 Speaker 3: her break I think. 801 00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:23,560 Speaker 6: That's what's about to happen. Though, You're going to break 802 00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:25,480 Speaker 6: up with her before she quits her job. 803 00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:28,279 Speaker 5: I think you should break up right now. I think 804 00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:30,360 Speaker 5: you should have broken up yesterday. I think you should 805 00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:32,880 Speaker 5: have broken up three weeks ago, and I certainly think 806 00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:34,880 Speaker 5: you should break up today. That's all my thoughts. They 807 00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:36,479 Speaker 5: should break up. I concede my time. 808 00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:39,799 Speaker 6: I great dust. Some relevant comments come at one. 809 00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:43,120 Speaker 4: It's been seven months and you've broken up twice already. 810 00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:47,040 Speaker 6: Wait, it's been seven months. Total break up and they 811 00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:48,080 Speaker 6: broken up twice. 812 00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:51,040 Speaker 5: If you break up twice within the span of seven months, 813 00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:52,319 Speaker 5: that's a you gotta break up. 814 00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:54,360 Speaker 6: And he said it was him both times because of 815 00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:56,680 Speaker 6: the cleaniness. It doesn't break up. 816 00:38:57,280 --> 00:38:59,200 Speaker 3: It doesn't say the timeframe. 817 00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:02,520 Speaker 6: Apparently seven months. Oh wow, Dump and run. Opie says. 818 00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:05,640 Speaker 4: The argument is I think she is overly smothering, and 819 00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:08,160 Speaker 4: she thinks I am afraid of intimacy, So sometimes I 820 00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:11,439 Speaker 4: second guess my rationale. But she is certainly very keen 821 00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:14,600 Speaker 4: on knowing everything I do, Like if she sees I 822 00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:17,440 Speaker 4: am online and it's not writing a levee email to her, 823 00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:19,040 Speaker 4: it's an argument all night. 824 00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:22,000 Speaker 6: I realize it sounds cut and dry, but she does 825 00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:23,319 Speaker 6: have her good qualities. 826 00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:29,120 Speaker 4: Another comment says, you've yet to mention any Yeah, reread 827 00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:32,480 Speaker 4: what you've wrote and ask yourself, based on only what 828 00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:35,359 Speaker 4: was written, what your advice to a different person who 829 00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:36,239 Speaker 4: wrote that would be. 830 00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:38,480 Speaker 6: Another commenter says, nope, nope, nope. 831 00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:41,560 Speaker 4: You have this windfall and suddenly she thinks she's on 832 00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:44,840 Speaker 4: easy street and never has to work again. Easy every 833 00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:47,040 Speaker 4: bam just hitting all the musical ones. 834 00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:50,400 Speaker 6: Guys, you have much bigger fish to fry than your 835 00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:51,160 Speaker 6: dating life. 836 00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:53,879 Speaker 4: You need to talk to a financial consultant and find 837 00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:55,880 Speaker 4: a way to make this money last so that you 838 00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:59,080 Speaker 4: don't end up yet another cautionary tale. You need to 839 00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:02,200 Speaker 4: learn to be a appropriately selfish in a big way, 840 00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:04,680 Speaker 4: and most likely you're going to have to end your 841 00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:05,600 Speaker 4: relationships with. 842 00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:06,440 Speaker 5: A lot of people. 843 00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:09,000 Speaker 4: Otherwise you are going to be expected to pay for 844 00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:11,720 Speaker 4: pretty much everything and shamed when you don't. 845 00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:13,160 Speaker 6: Don't f around with this. 846 00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:16,279 Speaker 4: It could be the greatest or worst thing that has 847 00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:19,879 Speaker 4: ever happened to you. Another commenter says, she is your girlfriend, 848 00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:23,040 Speaker 4: not your fiance or your wife. She has no right 849 00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:25,640 Speaker 4: to quit her job and rely on you to support her. 850 00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:28,799 Speaker 4: She is fully taking advantage of the situation and is 851 00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:31,799 Speaker 4: probably attempting to make you feel guilty by pulling the 852 00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:34,239 Speaker 4: if you break up with me, it's because you're rich Now, 853 00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:36,360 Speaker 4: who cares if you look shallow? 854 00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:37,040 Speaker 5: Do it? 855 00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:39,799 Speaker 4: She shouldn't assume that just because you happen to win 856 00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:42,080 Speaker 4: a large amount of money, that she is entitled to 857 00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:45,400 Speaker 4: any life altering benefits from it. I would sit her 858 00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:48,399 Speaker 4: down and explain why exactly you are breaking up with her, 859 00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:50,560 Speaker 4: and explain why it has nothing to do with the 860 00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:53,640 Speaker 4: newfound fortune. If she still accuses you of it being 861 00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:56,000 Speaker 4: because of the money. You'll know she is just trying 862 00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:57,600 Speaker 4: to emotionally manipulate you. 863 00:40:57,760 --> 00:40:59,839 Speaker 5: OPI, this is what you're gonna do. You're to call 864 00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:03,520 Speaker 5: up whatever. Okay, story time own from the last story. 865 00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:07,640 Speaker 5: We're gonna learn how to really bluntly tell people that 866 00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:10,359 Speaker 5: we don't want to hang out with him, and then 867 00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:13,759 Speaker 5: we're gonna apply that to your girlfriend and tell her 868 00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:16,120 Speaker 5: it's not because I have money, it's just because I 869 00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:16,719 Speaker 5: don't like. 870 00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:19,719 Speaker 6: You, and that op will make sure he's got your back. 871 00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:23,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, he knows how to reject. 872 00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:27,440 Speaker 4: Someone needs an anger translator, you know, Opie says, extremely 873 00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:30,000 Speaker 4: well said, and who cares if I look shallow? 874 00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:31,680 Speaker 6: This seems to be my problem. 875 00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:34,920 Speaker 4: She just texted me a while ago saying she accepted 876 00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:37,200 Speaker 4: my quirks before I won the money, and if you 877 00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:40,520 Speaker 4: ever did so before, I've only had two relationships, So 878 00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:42,960 Speaker 4: to ditch her now proves money will change me. 879 00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:46,280 Speaker 5: And then you say I am changed. I don't like you. 880 00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:48,840 Speaker 6: Bye, he says, I feel guilty. 881 00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:52,279 Speaker 5: No, stop it, stop it, slap wake up. 882 00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:55,840 Speaker 4: She is sounding like she's manipulating you to stay in 883 00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:56,320 Speaker 4: this relation. 884 00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:57,480 Speaker 5: She's absolutely in a. 885 00:41:57,440 --> 00:41:59,560 Speaker 6: Lot of ways trying to get your money. Man, she's 886 00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:00,480 Speaker 6: got you back twice. 887 00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:02,839 Speaker 5: I ain't saying she a gold digger, but she is. 888 00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:05,279 Speaker 4: But break up with her permanently the third time, Yes, 889 00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:10,080 Speaker 4: Gloopy Sloopy says, this so reminds me of when I 890 00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:13,120 Speaker 4: finally told my harmful ex wife I was leaving and 891 00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:15,520 Speaker 4: she said, I'm the only person who would put up 892 00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:18,560 Speaker 4: with your bs. I feel guilty, which I am sure 893 00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:22,520 Speaker 4: is her intention. This is manipulative as heck. If you 894 00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:24,759 Speaker 4: didn't think you had a reason to leave before you 895 00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:27,400 Speaker 4: do now and there's an edit. Thank you all for 896 00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:30,000 Speaker 4: taking the time to respond. I think I am taking 897 00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:33,560 Speaker 4: my anxiety with the whole situation in general and applying 898 00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:36,920 Speaker 4: it to a relationship that was on wobbly legs already. 899 00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:40,000 Speaker 4: I am afraid of having to make tough, selfish decisions 900 00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:42,279 Speaker 4: with a lot of out of the woodwork people. But 901 00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:45,520 Speaker 4: this is clearly a no brainer. The decision was essentially 902 00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:48,880 Speaker 4: made before my win even Thanks again for your input 903 00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:51,680 Speaker 4: and advice, and we have an update eighteen days later. 904 00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:52,879 Speaker 5: Let's get into it. 905 00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:56,080 Speaker 4: A few people have messaged me asking for an update 906 00:42:56,120 --> 00:43:00,879 Speaker 4: on the situation. In a word, nightmare, no suffice to say, 907 00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:02,960 Speaker 4: she was not happy when I told her that she 908 00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:05,480 Speaker 4: needs to forget about the money for now, and that 909 00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:08,960 Speaker 4: we had serious problems in our relationship from before the 910 00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:12,160 Speaker 4: wind that we kept sweeping aside, and all this has 911 00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:14,920 Speaker 4: done is force us to have a conversation we needed 912 00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:18,000 Speaker 4: to have. Anyways, it got heated pretty quickly, and I 913 00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:21,239 Speaker 4: feel like we kept digressing into petty arguments about old 914 00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:24,480 Speaker 4: stuff instead of sticking to the main issue. She suddenly 915 00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:27,719 Speaker 4: took to calling me selfish and unreasonable, which took me 916 00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:31,960 Speaker 4: completely off guard and had me scrambling to defend myself 917 00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:34,400 Speaker 4: before it occurred to me that she was just trying 918 00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:37,719 Speaker 4: to make me feel guilty again. After probably four or 919 00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:41,160 Speaker 4: five hours of getting nowhere, I finally said that we 920 00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:43,319 Speaker 4: are breaking up and there's nothing more to it. 921 00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:43,640 Speaker 2: Good. 922 00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:46,200 Speaker 4: She got up from the couch, got her stuff and 923 00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:49,040 Speaker 4: told me to go to effing heck and slammed the door. 924 00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:49,640 Speaker 3: Woo. 925 00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:51,960 Speaker 4: Next day, the text and emails started to come in, 926 00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:54,080 Speaker 4: saying that no one will love me like she did. 927 00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:56,440 Speaker 4: How it's sad to see how money has changed me 928 00:43:56,480 --> 00:44:01,080 Speaker 4: so quickly. Hoping I have fun banging superf escorts, on 929 00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:01,920 Speaker 4: and on and on. 930 00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:04,200 Speaker 5: And this is when you message back just one thing, 931 00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:06,040 Speaker 5: I will and then you block. 932 00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:08,080 Speaker 6: Or be like this is exactly why we broke up. 933 00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:10,120 Speaker 1: Literally, go buy yourself, because you have all the money 934 00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:12,240 Speaker 1: in the world now to buy yourself a little tiny 935 00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:14,040 Speaker 1: violin and start learning lessons and places. 936 00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:16,000 Speaker 5: And that's her and say goodbye forever. 937 00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:19,440 Speaker 4: I ignore the messages. The next day she calls and 938 00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:22,200 Speaker 4: I ignore the call, and she goes to voicemail and 939 00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:24,839 Speaker 4: says she is crying and says she needs my help 940 00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:26,840 Speaker 4: and has no one else to turn to and to 941 00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:29,120 Speaker 4: please call her. I don't call her back. 942 00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:31,239 Speaker 5: Did she even sound like she was crying or does 943 00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:33,320 Speaker 5: she just say I'm crying? She says, I'm. 944 00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:34,719 Speaker 6: Crying, Please help. 945 00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:37,160 Speaker 5: There's tears rolling down my face. 946 00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:38,280 Speaker 6: I'm crying a lot. 947 00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:40,680 Speaker 5: I'm sobbing I can barely breathe. 948 00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:44,360 Speaker 4: Thursday night, around eleven thirty pm, the police are knocking 949 00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:47,960 Speaker 4: at my door. Apparently a neighbor called in a loud 950 00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:50,160 Speaker 4: domestic dispute from my apartment. 951 00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:51,560 Speaker 6: I tell him I've. 952 00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:54,320 Speaker 4: Been alone all night. He asked to take a look around, 953 00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:56,920 Speaker 4: and I say sure. He says the neighbor who called 954 00:44:57,040 --> 00:45:00,080 Speaker 4: is not answering their door, nor their phone and and 955 00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:02,960 Speaker 4: asks if I recognize the last four digits of a number, 956 00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:06,000 Speaker 4: which I don't. So he asks if I know any 957 00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:09,080 Speaker 4: reason why someone would call the police making such a claim. 958 00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:11,239 Speaker 4: I tell him I did recently break up with a 959 00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:14,040 Speaker 4: girlfriend on the weekend and we did yell. So either 960 00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:16,600 Speaker 4: someone took their time to call or my ex is 961 00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:20,960 Speaker 4: not taking things well. We both agree it is strange. Yeah, 962 00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:23,720 Speaker 4: I decide not to ask her about it. Over the weekend, 963 00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:26,680 Speaker 4: I get a few emails and texts and calls from 964 00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:29,839 Speaker 4: her that start off sweet and nostalgic and end up 965 00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:32,920 Speaker 4: angry and accusing me of throwing her to the side 966 00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:36,560 Speaker 4: and being heartless, among other things. From the voicemails, I 967 00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:39,320 Speaker 4: can tell she is wasted. I can't resist, so I 968 00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:41,799 Speaker 4: ask her by email if she knew anything about the 969 00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:44,360 Speaker 4: prank call to the police, which of course she denies 970 00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:47,399 Speaker 4: and then spins back on me. Do I really think 971 00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:50,080 Speaker 4: she is so petty? Why would I ever think that? 972 00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:53,480 Speaker 4: It just proves I never trusted her back to arguing, 973 00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:54,360 Speaker 4: so I don't reply. 974 00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:56,440 Speaker 6: Got a little bit left, But uh, you did it, buddy, 975 00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:56,880 Speaker 6: you did it. 976 00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:58,880 Speaker 5: You broke up with her, and that's all I wanted 977 00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:02,720 Speaker 5: that's all we wanted. Thumbs up, bud, hold strong this time, 978 00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:04,560 Speaker 5: please stay broken up. 979 00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:07,480 Speaker 4: So yesterday I logged onto Facebook for the first time 980 00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:09,680 Speaker 4: in a while, and I noticed over the past few 981 00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:13,320 Speaker 4: days she's been adding my friends as friends, nothing else. 982 00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:14,319 Speaker 6: But it freaks me out. 983 00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:17,360 Speaker 4: I send her a message asking why she's adding my friends, 984 00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:20,400 Speaker 4: and she essentially says it's a free country and that 985 00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:22,520 Speaker 4: she couldn't have been so bad if my friends like 986 00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:25,439 Speaker 4: her too. All to say, I am weary, and I 987 00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:28,200 Speaker 4: am depressed and lonely, and I have a feeling this 988 00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:30,600 Speaker 4: is going to be a pain in the butt. Objectively, 989 00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:33,759 Speaker 4: I know this was a good move, but subjectively it's 990 00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:34,960 Speaker 4: a whole other matter. 991 00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:38,200 Speaker 6: I look forward to normal times, Opie says. 992 00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:42,080 Speaker 4: I've locked my Facebook privacy settings down and emailed some friends. 993 00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:45,400 Speaker 4: My closest friends and family are well in the know already. 994 00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:49,840 Speaker 2: Of course, my family expected me to always put them first, 995 00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:51,640 Speaker 2: but not this time. 996 00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:54,200 Speaker 1: Family first. But like, you're part of your family, so 997 00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:54,920 Speaker 1: you come first. 998 00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:57,520 Speaker 2: Too, That's right. And this is from the r slash 999 00:46:57,520 --> 00:47:00,360 Speaker 2: okay stories I'm Subreddit one of our own family members 1000 00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:03,600 Speaker 2: of your here say hey for some backstory either with 1001 00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:06,399 Speaker 2: my family in a two bedroom apartment in New York. 1002 00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:09,000 Speaker 2: It was my grandma, my mom, my sister, and my 1003 00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:12,480 Speaker 2: brother and me in one bedroom, and my uncle stayed 1004 00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:15,080 Speaker 2: in the second bedroom. Once I was fifteen, I started 1005 00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:16,680 Speaker 2: to work. To help my family out. I had to 1006 00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:19,359 Speaker 2: give them half of my paycheck to my grandma and 1007 00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:22,279 Speaker 2: help with bills, which was a minimum one hundred and 1008 00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:25,200 Speaker 2: fifty dollars a week and a maximum of two hundred 1009 00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:28,160 Speaker 2: and thirty dollars a week. Holy cow, my uncle gave 1010 00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:30,759 Speaker 2: her seventy dollars a week and my mom gave around 1011 00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:33,040 Speaker 2: one hundred a week. By the way, this comes from 1012 00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:35,640 Speaker 2: smart Mouth Virgo and if you want to make your 1013 00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:38,080 Speaker 2: own stories, go to the r Side Showcase story Time supparedent, 1014 00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:40,480 Speaker 2: where this one is also from. When I turned eighteen, 1015 00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:43,040 Speaker 2: this arrangement changed due to the fact that I was 1016 00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:46,400 Speaker 2: basically given a mattress and told I would have to 1017 00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:50,040 Speaker 2: sleep on there until further accommodation was made. I slept 1018 00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:51,920 Speaker 2: on the mattress for the next year and a half. 1019 00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:54,399 Speaker 2: When I moved out with my boyfriend, I was told 1020 00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:56,440 Speaker 2: that although I didn't have my own room or a 1021 00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:59,479 Speaker 2: decent bed, I had to keep on giving them half 1022 00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:02,200 Speaker 2: of my I didn't think this was fair and just 1023 00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:04,440 Speaker 2: stopped giving her half of my check and gave her 1024 00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:07,319 Speaker 2: one hundred dollars weekly. By the way, during this time, 1025 00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:09,759 Speaker 2: rent was about four to fifty a month since she 1026 00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:12,560 Speaker 2: was in Section eight. I'm the oldest of my siblings 1027 00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:16,319 Speaker 2: and am seen as the responsible one and the dependable 1028 00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:19,799 Speaker 2: one in the family. These exceptions were only set for me. 1029 00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:24,360 Speaker 2: These exceptions were never expected of my siblings. Now to 1030 00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:27,600 Speaker 2: current times, I'm twenty four, a few months away from 1031 00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:30,240 Speaker 2: twenty five. Last year, I found out I was pregnant 1032 00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:34,160 Speaker 2: with my miracle baby and was honestly shocked and surprised 1033 00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:37,319 Speaker 2: at the idea. During my pregnancy, my family still had 1034 00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:40,640 Speaker 2: certain expectations of me as a person they come to 1035 00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:43,160 Speaker 2: with a lot of their problems and I would have 1036 00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:46,880 Speaker 2: to fix it. During my pregnancy, I was constantly called 1037 00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:50,160 Speaker 2: to know where my brother was or what he was 1038 00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:53,319 Speaker 2: up to, or figure out his school situation. I was 1039 00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:56,640 Speaker 2: also called during this time to tell me how bad 1040 00:48:56,680 --> 00:48:59,840 Speaker 2: of a time my sister was having, who got pregnant 1041 00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:02,720 Speaker 2: two months after me, and would add to how easy 1042 00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:06,640 Speaker 2: going my pregnancy was compared to hers. Never once was 1043 00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:09,280 Speaker 2: the call to ask about me or how it was doing. 1044 00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:12,760 Speaker 2: It was sad, but I ignored the feeling and just brushed 1045 00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:17,160 Speaker 2: it off as my warmones. Nikes. Dude, this is crazy. 1046 00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:19,319 Speaker 1: Why is it a competition to see who has the 1047 00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:20,520 Speaker 1: more difficult pregnancy? 1048 00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:22,840 Speaker 2: Dude, I don't know, just something to complain about. I 1049 00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:24,239 Speaker 2: feel like a lot of people just want something to 1050 00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:26,520 Speaker 2: complain about. Yeah, if they don't, they're gonna find it. 1051 00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:28,000 Speaker 2: I cannot be around those people. 1052 00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:28,800 Speaker 7: It just ugh. 1053 00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:31,960 Speaker 2: I have become that person before, and I tried to 1054 00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:34,200 Speaker 2: not become that person. Sometimes it just happens, but. 1055 00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:36,239 Speaker 1: Sometimes you don't recognize it when it's happened. The fact 1056 00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:38,640 Speaker 1: that you can look back on it and recognize it 1057 00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:41,480 Speaker 1: means there was character growth there and that you're not 1058 00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:42,400 Speaker 1: that person anymore. 1059 00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:46,279 Speaker 2: Well, he comes back sometimes, but dude, this is so sad. 1060 00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:48,680 Speaker 1: He imagine sleeping on a mattress on the floor and 1061 00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:50,000 Speaker 1: having to pay that much in rent. 1062 00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:53,520 Speaker 2: But that's no, No, they're just using you to pay 1063 00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:55,560 Speaker 2: the bills. They don't. I don't think they really care 1064 00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:55,840 Speaker 2: about you. 1065 00:49:55,960 --> 00:50:00,799 Speaker 1: Ov they care about Opie's ability to caretake and prov Yeah, 1066 00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:02,000 Speaker 1: but not their personhood. 1067 00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:05,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's a good point. On December twentieth, my 1068 00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:08,799 Speaker 2: mother was set to get surgery on her spine due 1069 00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:12,640 Speaker 2: to her hernius she had in advance. I had to 1070 00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:15,040 Speaker 2: voice to both my mom and grandma that I wouldn't 1071 00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:17,040 Speaker 2: be able to be at the hospital two days in 1072 00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:20,120 Speaker 2: a row since I was literally thirty six weeks pregnant 1073 00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:22,560 Speaker 2: at the time and it would be really difficult and 1074 00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:25,040 Speaker 2: stressful for me and the baby, and that I also 1075 00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:27,600 Speaker 2: had to work. So we settled that I would be 1076 00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:30,160 Speaker 2: there on the twenty first, since she was going to 1077 00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:33,640 Speaker 2: get discharged that day and needed some help and someone 1078 00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:36,040 Speaker 2: to take her home. Well, the day of surgery, my 1079 00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:38,719 Speaker 2: grandma starts blowing out my phone saying that I'm a 1080 00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:41,799 Speaker 2: bad daughter to my mother since I am not there 1081 00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:44,000 Speaker 2: for her, and start saying that I should be going 1082 00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:47,640 Speaker 2: with my mother. During my pregnancy, I had really bad anxiety, 1083 00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:50,839 Speaker 2: which I still have, and started crying and got an 1084 00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:53,360 Speaker 2: anxiety attack to the point that I started getting bracks 1085 00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:56,879 Speaker 2: and hicks. That's crazy. What is that the thing? It's 1086 00:50:56,960 --> 00:50:59,560 Speaker 2: like bumps and stuff on you where you have such 1087 00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:01,960 Speaker 2: a badding an anxiety attack. That's what I think it is. 1088 00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:05,040 Speaker 3: I don't know for sure, but I think it's something 1089 00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:09,680 Speaker 3: about like early contractions pretty much. God, it's not actually 1090 00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:13,200 Speaker 3: the baby's not actually coming, but it's like painful contractions. 1091 00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:14,759 Speaker 2: And she's right. 1092 00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:21,200 Speaker 1: It's false labor or sporadic contractions, practice contractions, or false labor. 1093 00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:24,000 Speaker 2: On the twenty first, I went over to the hospital 1094 00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:26,200 Speaker 2: to get my mom and had to wait about three 1095 00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:28,759 Speaker 2: hours until she got discharged. I took her to my 1096 00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:31,480 Speaker 2: grandma's and went home. It's important to say that my 1097 00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:36,160 Speaker 2: mother has severe anxiety depression and his bipolar. During this time, 1098 00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:39,360 Speaker 2: she stopped taking her medication til the twenty eighth of December, 1099 00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:42,919 Speaker 2: which sent her in a spiral. I was called by 1100 00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:45,640 Speaker 2: my grandmother to calm my mom down because my mother 1101 00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:49,759 Speaker 2: pushed her and started packing her stuff. She didn't want 1102 00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:52,080 Speaker 2: her to get hurt because she was supposed to be 1103 00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:55,879 Speaker 2: in complete rest mode during recovery. I got over there 1104 00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:57,759 Speaker 2: and my mother starts yelling at me and says that 1105 00:51:57,800 --> 00:51:59,560 Speaker 2: I left her like a stray dog in the hospital, 1106 00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:02,040 Speaker 2: and a lot of other things that I'd rather not say. 1107 00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:06,080 Speaker 2: It's absolutely sucked to hear those things, but I didn't 1108 00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:08,920 Speaker 2: blame her because she wasn't on her medication. There's the 1109 00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:11,880 Speaker 2: life source that these vampires are sucking from op. 1110 00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:15,120 Speaker 1: It's her fault for not being on her meds. Yeah, 1111 00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:17,839 Speaker 1: And I understand that people sometimes don't want to take 1112 00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:19,680 Speaker 1: their meds because of how it makes them feel, but 1113 00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:22,359 Speaker 1: that's a choice on you sometimes. 1114 00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:25,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, and could she have meds after surgery? Well, she 1115 00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:29,040 Speaker 2: not like able to. That's my other question, like, if 1116 00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:31,160 Speaker 2: you had a surgery done on your spine, can you 1117 00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:32,120 Speaker 2: even take these meds? 1118 00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:33,759 Speaker 1: That's a good point. 1119 00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:38,759 Speaker 2: On January sixth, I gave birth right after midnight and 1120 00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:41,680 Speaker 2: waited until the morning to let everyone know. I was 1121 00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:43,719 Speaker 2: in the hospital until the eighth and no one for 1122 00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:48,000 Speaker 2: my family showed up. The only one that went was 1123 00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:50,640 Speaker 2: my little brother. I was hit with every excuse in 1124 00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:53,280 Speaker 2: the book and just said it's okay because I didn't 1125 00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:55,799 Speaker 2: know what else to say. After giving birth, it was 1126 00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:58,560 Speaker 2: the same thing, calling to know what's going on with 1127 00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:01,640 Speaker 2: my brother, my sister to tell me their problems, and 1128 00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:04,759 Speaker 2: not actually knowing about me. In April, my mom had 1129 00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:09,319 Speaker 2: another surgery and the same expectations were had. Although I 1130 00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:11,759 Speaker 2: was taking care of my baby and couldn't leave him 1131 00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:14,440 Speaker 2: with anyone, I went to the hospital with my baby, 1132 00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:16,799 Speaker 2: where I had an anxiety attack because they told me, 1133 00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:18,520 Speaker 2: I wouldn't be able to see my mom because I 1134 00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:21,399 Speaker 2: had my baby with me, which I understood, but at 1135 00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:24,239 Speaker 2: the moment it was devastating because I was expected to 1136 00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:27,319 Speaker 2: make sure my mom was okay. But my grandma they 1137 00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:29,799 Speaker 2: let me see her for a few minutes. And then 1138 00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:31,759 Speaker 2: I go about a month and a half ago, my 1139 00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:34,480 Speaker 2: uncle was in the hospital because of his diabetes, and 1140 00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:36,399 Speaker 2: I was the one my grandma called to be there 1141 00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:38,560 Speaker 2: and figure out what was going on. To get to 1142 00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:41,640 Speaker 2: my mom and my uncle. There were no excuses, they 1143 00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:44,400 Speaker 2: were there for them. I was literally a fifteen minute 1144 00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:46,719 Speaker 2: car ride from my grandma when I gave birth, and no, 1145 00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:49,080 Speaker 2: they didn't show up for me. And for the people 1146 00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:52,160 Speaker 2: that always speak on how important family is, I haven't 1147 00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:55,520 Speaker 2: felt like family in a very long time because you're 1148 00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:57,960 Speaker 2: a family member, but you're not a family member to them. 1149 00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:00,279 Speaker 2: No one has ever made an effort for me. But 1150 00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:03,600 Speaker 2: I make the effort for everyone else, and none of 1151 00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:06,239 Speaker 2: them do it for me. I take everyone's burdens and 1152 00:54:06,239 --> 00:54:08,560 Speaker 2: fix them. I have time and time again to try 1153 00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:10,879 Speaker 2: to set boundaries, but they break them, and on top 1154 00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:13,400 Speaker 2: of everything, I fall back into helping even when I 1155 00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:16,200 Speaker 2: try not to. Because my Grandma starts chatting my ear 1156 00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:19,759 Speaker 2: off about how ungrateful and selfish I am, or how 1157 00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:21,800 Speaker 2: one am abandoning the family. 1158 00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:24,279 Speaker 1: I pay for like a live in nurse when you 1159 00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:25,360 Speaker 1: can have one for free. 1160 00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:27,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, when you can guilt one for free. 1161 00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:27,840 Speaker 4: Oh? 1162 00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:29,840 Speaker 1: Absolutely, Yeah, that's even worse, dude. 1163 00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:32,239 Speaker 2: At this point, I'm thinking of taking space from my 1164 00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:35,120 Speaker 2: family because I feel like I am not seen as family, 1165 00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:38,480 Speaker 2: but as someone they can use. Currently, I'm dealing with 1166 00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:42,640 Speaker 2: postpartum depression and postpartum anxiety, and I feel like every 1167 00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:45,680 Speaker 2: time I speak to them, my anxiety goes through the roof, 1168 00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:48,879 Speaker 2: and I need to prioritize my baby and my well being, 1169 00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:52,520 Speaker 2: and right now I know they're not good for me. Honestly, 1170 00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:55,200 Speaker 2: I don't know if I'm being unreasonable for taking care 1171 00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:57,719 Speaker 2: of my mental health in this form. By the way, 1172 00:54:57,680 --> 00:55:00,320 Speaker 2: at the beginning was giving context to what was expected 1173 00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:03,359 Speaker 2: of me. I don't hold any resentment towards what I 1174 00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:06,279 Speaker 2: had to contribute. It's just messed up how much I 1175 00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:09,760 Speaker 2: had to contribute, apart from doing laundry for everyone, cleaning 1176 00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:15,440 Speaker 2: and taking care of my brother. Oh my gosh, this 1177 00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:18,560 Speaker 2: is crazy. This is so bad. I'm so sorry, Obie. 1178 00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:22,920 Speaker 1: This is putting too much expectation on a family member, 1179 00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:25,359 Speaker 1: like you wouldn't do this to someone like you would 1180 00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:27,640 Speaker 1: pay to take care of the family, Like they wouldn't 1181 00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:30,160 Speaker 1: take it. So the fact that you are a family 1182 00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:34,360 Speaker 1: is just giving them that wiggle room, yeah, to abuse 1183 00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:36,799 Speaker 1: you like that, because it's again with that idea of 1184 00:55:37,160 --> 00:55:39,879 Speaker 1: it's for the family, so you have to do it, like, yes, 1185 00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:43,600 Speaker 1: family comes first, but you're not family at this point. 1186 00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:47,520 Speaker 2: Yeah you're the help. Yeah Yeah, they're just treating you 1187 00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:50,480 Speaker 2: like you're the help. Yeah awesome, Ashley, leave and take 1188 00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:52,560 Speaker 2: your brother with you. I think that might be the 1189 00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:55,400 Speaker 2: best move here. I just go no contact, pull the funding. 1190 00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:58,239 Speaker 2: They're just gonna guilt you. Yeah, change your number, change 1191 00:55:58,239 --> 00:56:00,360 Speaker 2: where you live, just be like you're not respect me. 1192 00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:03,680 Speaker 2: And honestly, I think taking six months away from them. 1193 00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:07,600 Speaker 2: Dutchess says, either they need to come halfway in your 1194 00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:11,840 Speaker 2: relationship or those relationships were destined to fail. Oh, destined 1195 00:56:11,840 --> 00:56:12,600 Speaker 2: to fell anywhere. 1196 00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:15,959 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, Yeah, it's not gonna get better from here 1197 00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:18,359 Speaker 1: because they've gotten away with it so far, and every 1198 00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:21,400 Speaker 1: single time OPI has done what is right for the 1199 00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:25,040 Speaker 1: family and has never had any pushback. So there's no 1200 00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:28,399 Speaker 1: expectation from the rest of the relatives that OP would 1201 00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:29,440 Speaker 1: ever take time for themselves. 1202 00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:29,839 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1203 00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:32,279 Speaker 1: I think the kicker is that no one came to 1204 00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:34,320 Speaker 1: support OP when OP had their baby. 1205 00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:36,600 Speaker 2: That is true, that's I think the no one visited, 1206 00:56:36,680 --> 00:56:37,760 Speaker 2: no one came to hell. 1207 00:56:38,080 --> 00:56:41,160 Speaker 1: If at least they came to support there is at 1208 00:56:41,239 --> 00:56:44,319 Speaker 1: least some expectation that if OPI needed it, they would 1209 00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:46,360 Speaker 1: be there to support, that there is the support system, 1210 00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:48,960 Speaker 1: and that yes, it's rough that everyone needs her. 1211 00:56:49,160 --> 00:56:52,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, but like there is no support system there. 1212 00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:54,839 Speaker 1: It's just I need this and you need to be here. 1213 00:56:55,080 --> 00:56:57,320 Speaker 2: Hey's John Og host. We're gonna get back to the stories, 1214 00:56:57,360 --> 00:56:59,560 Speaker 2: but a quick three minute break of ads from our sponsors. 1215 00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:02,239 Speaker 5: I was planning to surprise my girlfriend, but what I 1216 00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:08,160 Speaker 5: discovered surprised me instead. Oh, surprise, surprise. My girlfriend, twenty 1217 00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:10,960 Speaker 5: eight female and I twenty eight male, have been together 1218 00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:13,480 Speaker 5: for two years and this summer I was planning on 1219 00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:16,680 Speaker 5: proposing to her. I wanted to make a special gift 1220 00:57:16,680 --> 00:57:20,680 Speaker 5: for one that showed the progression of our relationship from 1221 00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:23,680 Speaker 5: our first texts on hinged together to photos of us. 1222 00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:26,240 Speaker 5: By the way, this comes from wedding delay and if 1223 00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:27,640 Speaker 5: you want to spend your own stories, go to the 1224 00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:30,320 Speaker 5: r slash Okay storytime, separate it. I wanted it to 1225 00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:32,480 Speaker 5: be a surprise for her, and I was looking through 1226 00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:35,120 Speaker 5: her Google photos because it has all the pictures of 1227 00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:37,919 Speaker 5: us together. While I was searching for pics of us, 1228 00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:44,200 Speaker 5: spicy picks from her ex came up. Even videos. I 1229 00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:47,040 Speaker 5: don't know what to say. The guy is packing, and 1230 00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:49,880 Speaker 5: on top of that, of the clips they have, oh, 1231 00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:51,640 Speaker 5: I don't know why they did okay. 1232 00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:54,840 Speaker 2: Okay, bye surprise. 1233 00:57:55,600 --> 00:57:58,120 Speaker 5: And on top of that, of the clips they have together, 1234 00:57:58,240 --> 00:58:00,000 Speaker 5: why were you watching so? Okay? 1235 00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:00,400 Speaker 8: Oh? 1236 00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:03,000 Speaker 5: God, noises and stuff she has never made with me. 1237 00:58:03,240 --> 00:58:08,120 Speaker 8: Oh like oh brother, like animal sounds or oh she's 1238 00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:09,320 Speaker 8: like gobble. 1239 00:58:11,120 --> 00:58:12,560 Speaker 2: She sounds like an old JALAPPI. 1240 00:58:12,840 --> 00:58:15,720 Speaker 5: Well, you know, maybe maybe she's faking it. 1241 00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:17,600 Speaker 2: Hang hang out. 1242 00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:20,800 Speaker 5: Maybe maybe I don't know. 1243 00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:22,840 Speaker 2: And now you're ruined forever. 1244 00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:26,920 Speaker 5: Let alone. The idea of even ever sending me spicy 1245 00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:30,280 Speaker 5: picks of herself. She told me she would never do that. 1246 00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:33,760 Speaker 5: I don't know. This whole thing just hit me like 1247 00:58:33,800 --> 00:58:36,600 Speaker 5: a ton of bricks. I thought I knew my girlfriend 1248 00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:40,120 Speaker 5: loved her, then find this backed up and honestly, it 1249 00:58:40,240 --> 00:58:42,960 Speaker 5: just took all of my excitement and romance out of 1250 00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:45,720 Speaker 5: our relationship. And a bit of background about this guy. 1251 00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:49,240 Speaker 5: They were never boyfriend girlfriend from what she said, they 1252 00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:52,240 Speaker 5: were just friends with benefits. And to me, I don't know, 1253 00:58:52,280 --> 00:58:54,800 Speaker 5: it just makes it more insulting, Like I get the 1254 00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:57,200 Speaker 5: idea of she did that with someone she was super 1255 00:58:57,240 --> 00:59:00,280 Speaker 5: serious about. But this guy, from what she said, just 1256 00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:02,440 Speaker 5: spends his time at the gym and going to bars 1257 00:59:02,480 --> 00:59:05,440 Speaker 5: and clubs. I don't know what to say. I was 1258 00:59:05,600 --> 00:59:08,240 Speaker 5: ninety percent done with the gift. Now I don't know 1259 00:59:08,240 --> 00:59:10,600 Speaker 5: what to do. I don't want to lose her and 1260 00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:13,720 Speaker 5: break up with her, but the expite, but the excitement 1261 00:59:13,760 --> 00:59:16,320 Speaker 5: of spending our life together is gone. 1262 00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:21,120 Speaker 8: Brother, your ego is way too fragile. Yeah, gonna just 1263 00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:23,920 Speaker 8: put that out there. A conversation with her, there's a 1264 00:59:24,320 --> 00:59:25,760 Speaker 8: people things you can do. 1265 00:59:25,960 --> 00:59:28,480 Speaker 5: She doesn't owe you spicy picks. It's weird that she 1266 00:59:28,600 --> 00:59:30,800 Speaker 5: kept them, and that's like a conversation that you can have. 1267 00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:33,040 Speaker 8: Well, I think it's more that he's just like, I'm 1268 00:59:33,080 --> 00:59:36,080 Speaker 8: not the best ever that she's ever yea ever, and 1269 00:59:36,120 --> 00:59:36,520 Speaker 8: it's like. 1270 00:59:37,240 --> 00:59:39,920 Speaker 5: It's like I don't know, like he's saying this like oh, well, 1271 00:59:39,960 --> 00:59:42,280 Speaker 5: if she were in a serious relationship, I could understand. 1272 00:59:42,440 --> 00:59:45,160 Speaker 2: It's how can I compare to that? 1273 00:59:45,320 --> 00:59:47,000 Speaker 5: I feel like it kind of takes more sense that 1274 00:59:47,080 --> 00:59:49,840 Speaker 5: she did that outside of a serious relationship, because she's like, 1275 00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:52,720 Speaker 5: I didn't really you know, it was just physical. 1276 00:59:53,360 --> 00:59:55,440 Speaker 2: She's dating man. 1277 00:59:56,120 --> 00:59:58,760 Speaker 5: I'm just hurt. I haven't told her about this. I 1278 00:59:58,920 --> 01:00:01,080 Speaker 5: just have been trying to deal with this myself the 1279 01:00:01,080 --> 01:00:03,880 Speaker 5: best I can. What do I do from here? If 1280 01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:06,360 Speaker 5: I tell her what I saw, it will completely ruin 1281 01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:09,760 Speaker 5: the scrap book and engagement surprise. And I don't even know. 1282 01:00:10,400 --> 01:00:12,520 Speaker 5: Is it normal to have stuff like that of your ex? 1283 01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:15,360 Speaker 5: I don't I know. But then again, I've never made 1284 01:00:15,400 --> 01:00:18,360 Speaker 5: clips of an ex either. Also, what do I do 1285 01:00:18,480 --> 01:00:21,080 Speaker 5: about the Spicy Sleep part? I feel more and more 1286 01:00:21,120 --> 01:00:24,840 Speaker 5: insecure about my equipment. Our Spicy Sleep was nothing like 1287 01:00:25,120 --> 01:00:28,120 Speaker 5: what was there on the video. Just looking for guidance, 1288 01:00:28,360 --> 01:00:31,920 Speaker 5: and there are some comments. My first thought is one, 1289 01:00:33,960 --> 01:00:36,160 Speaker 5: I mean, she's with you. She's with you. She's not 1290 01:00:36,200 --> 01:00:39,120 Speaker 5: with this guy. She's with you. It is weird that 1291 01:00:39,160 --> 01:00:42,680 Speaker 5: she has pictures and videos of her ex or X 1292 01:00:42,720 --> 01:00:45,920 Speaker 5: situation whatever. That's weird, and that's a conversation that you 1293 01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:49,080 Speaker 5: can have. But Also, if you're so concerned about like 1294 01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:54,160 Speaker 5: your spicy sleep life in comparison to his, ask her 1295 01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:56,200 Speaker 5: you know what she wants? Have you talked about what 1296 01:00:56,240 --> 01:00:56,720 Speaker 5: she wants? 1297 01:00:57,160 --> 01:00:57,320 Speaker 2: You know? 1298 01:00:57,640 --> 01:00:59,760 Speaker 8: Jump people are like that and then it's just like 1299 01:00:59,800 --> 01:01:02,120 Speaker 8: a thing where it's like, Okay, I guess that's your thing. 1300 01:01:02,280 --> 01:01:05,120 Speaker 8: And if I don't have that, what there's that she 1301 01:01:05,160 --> 01:01:06,000 Speaker 8: wouldn't be with you. 1302 01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:08,280 Speaker 5: If that was her thing exactly, you know? 1303 01:01:08,640 --> 01:01:11,200 Speaker 8: So I don't know, man, It just comes down to, 1304 01:01:11,400 --> 01:01:13,280 Speaker 8: like you gotta have a conversation. 1305 01:01:14,440 --> 01:01:19,280 Speaker 5: Comments come in. One. One detail you haven't mentioned were 1306 01:01:19,320 --> 01:01:22,440 Speaker 5: those pics and videos before you and her got together 1307 01:01:22,600 --> 01:01:25,520 Speaker 5: or after? Because if it was before you and her 1308 01:01:25,640 --> 01:01:27,680 Speaker 5: got together, then you're going to have a talk with 1309 01:01:27,720 --> 01:01:29,800 Speaker 5: her about her past and then put it behind you 1310 01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:34,120 Speaker 5: also work out more. But if those picks and VIDs 1311 01:01:34,160 --> 01:01:36,840 Speaker 5: were after you and her became a couple, then break 1312 01:01:36,880 --> 01:01:39,320 Speaker 5: up with her, make a scrap book that finishes with 1313 01:01:39,360 --> 01:01:42,600 Speaker 5: her cheating, then dumper. No one deserves to be cheated on, 1314 01:01:42,640 --> 01:01:45,280 Speaker 5: and all cheaters should pass away alone. Oh P says 1315 01:01:45,400 --> 01:01:47,480 Speaker 5: it was before we were together, but she has a 1316 01:01:47,480 --> 01:01:50,000 Speaker 5: screenshot of a text between them that was after we 1317 01:01:50,080 --> 01:01:54,440 Speaker 5: had already started talking. Oh well, okay talking, Okay, that's whatever. 1318 01:01:55,120 --> 01:01:58,800 Speaker 5: Comment to a relationship isn't built on spicy sleep alone. 1319 01:01:59,160 --> 01:02:01,000 Speaker 5: There is a reason she's not with that guy and 1320 01:02:01,040 --> 01:02:05,320 Speaker 5: she's with you. Instead of feeling down, realize you already 1321 01:02:05,360 --> 01:02:08,040 Speaker 5: have an advantage. She picked you and she's with you. 1322 01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:11,720 Speaker 5: Size is something you have or don't have, instead of 1323 01:02:11,720 --> 01:02:15,760 Speaker 5: focusing on what someone else has and you don't realize 1324 01:02:15,840 --> 01:02:18,800 Speaker 5: size also comes with problems. Maybe maybe she was tired 1325 01:02:18,840 --> 01:02:21,600 Speaker 5: of dealing with that. If I ran into this situation, 1326 01:02:21,680 --> 01:02:24,480 Speaker 5: it would be challenge accepted. You are a man, and 1327 01:02:24,560 --> 01:02:28,040 Speaker 5: if you really love her, up your game. Become curious 1328 01:02:28,480 --> 01:02:31,280 Speaker 5: instead of thinking you know what to do, become the learner, 1329 01:02:31,440 --> 01:02:35,000 Speaker 5: own every part of her what I don't. Okay, OPI says, 1330 01:02:35,120 --> 01:02:37,240 Speaker 5: I don't think she didn't date that guy because she 1331 01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:39,680 Speaker 5: declined he was the one that didn't want to settle 1332 01:02:39,680 --> 01:02:44,200 Speaker 5: down and sleep around. Uh doesn't really matter, doesn't. 1333 01:02:43,960 --> 01:02:47,480 Speaker 2: Really being like am I? Just like second Breakfast? 1334 01:02:48,240 --> 01:02:52,000 Speaker 5: No sir? Common three classic case of alpha seed versus 1335 01:02:52,040 --> 01:02:55,640 Speaker 5: beta niche. She will do things with Slash for him 1336 01:02:55,640 --> 01:02:57,600 Speaker 5: that she'll never do with you, but she'll be more 1337 01:02:57,600 --> 01:02:59,520 Speaker 5: than happy to spend your money and live in your house. 1338 01:03:00,240 --> 01:03:02,200 Speaker 5: What is this person talking about? 1339 01:03:02,320 --> 01:03:03,200 Speaker 2: Comments? 1340 01:03:03,720 --> 01:03:04,000 Speaker 5: What? 1341 01:03:04,560 --> 01:03:06,120 Speaker 2: It's fine the rest of the story here. 1342 01:03:06,480 --> 01:03:09,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, none of these comments are good story. 1343 01:03:09,800 --> 01:03:12,600 Speaker 8: The comments are basically like, you know that there's other 1344 01:03:12,720 --> 01:03:15,720 Speaker 8: things you can do, right and op He's probably like, 1345 01:03:15,880 --> 01:03:16,600 Speaker 8: what do you mean? 1346 01:03:19,360 --> 01:03:23,280 Speaker 5: Update? So, guys, I honestly was mentally fried, but I 1347 01:03:23,320 --> 01:03:25,480 Speaker 5: needed to talk to my girlfriend. I was hoping I 1348 01:03:25,520 --> 01:03:27,680 Speaker 5: would be in better shape to talk to her, but 1349 01:03:27,760 --> 01:03:30,360 Speaker 5: after not being able to sleep. Well everything is going 1350 01:03:30,360 --> 01:03:33,240 Speaker 5: to be summarized, but this conversation went from six pm 1351 01:03:33,360 --> 01:03:36,520 Speaker 5: to four a m. I told her that I wanted 1352 01:03:36,520 --> 01:03:38,320 Speaker 5: to talk to her, that I was making her a 1353 01:03:38,320 --> 01:03:41,160 Speaker 5: scrap book of our events together and I found the 1354 01:03:41,160 --> 01:03:44,600 Speaker 5: pictures of her and her ex and videos. She starts saying, 1355 01:03:44,600 --> 01:03:47,000 Speaker 5: oh my god, I'm so sorry. I'm meant to delete them. 1356 01:03:47,600 --> 01:03:50,760 Speaker 5: I told her, basically, they're burned in my brain now, which. 1357 01:03:50,600 --> 01:03:54,320 Speaker 8: Is your fault, because you could have you chose to 1358 01:03:54,400 --> 01:03:54,960 Speaker 8: watch those? 1359 01:03:55,120 --> 01:03:58,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, why did you watch them? You watch them? I 1360 01:03:58,600 --> 01:04:00,520 Speaker 5: talked to her about it. I told her flat out 1361 01:04:00,600 --> 01:04:03,720 Speaker 5: hurt and that there were two parts. One the fact 1362 01:04:03,720 --> 01:04:06,120 Speaker 5: that she enjoyed it more with him. Again, she was 1363 01:04:06,120 --> 01:04:09,040 Speaker 5: probably playing it up with the camera dude and two, 1364 01:04:09,120 --> 01:04:10,840 Speaker 5: that she did things in bed with him that she 1365 01:04:10,920 --> 01:04:13,880 Speaker 5: never did with me. She starts telling me that it's different, 1366 01:04:13,960 --> 01:04:16,320 Speaker 5: that they were just friends with benefits, that she just 1367 01:04:16,360 --> 01:04:18,959 Speaker 5: went for hotness, not for other traits, that I'm way 1368 01:04:19,040 --> 01:04:21,919 Speaker 5: smarter than him. I asked her. If that's the case, 1369 01:04:21,960 --> 01:04:24,520 Speaker 5: then why was she begging him to be exclusive with her. 1370 01:04:25,080 --> 01:04:27,680 Speaker 5: She said that it was just because her brain was dumb, 1371 01:04:28,040 --> 01:04:30,080 Speaker 5: that so many girls were hooking up with the Sky, 1372 01:04:30,160 --> 01:04:32,880 Speaker 5: that she felt it was a competition. I asked her 1373 01:04:32,880 --> 01:04:34,960 Speaker 5: too about the other stuff in bed. She told me 1374 01:04:35,040 --> 01:04:37,800 Speaker 5: that spicy sleep is different with him, and that it's 1375 01:04:37,840 --> 01:04:41,240 Speaker 5: different too with a friends with benefits and a boyfriend. 1376 01:04:41,800 --> 01:04:44,320 Speaker 5: I asked her that if they did become exclusive and 1377 01:04:44,320 --> 01:04:47,760 Speaker 5: start dating, would she stop doing those things? And she says, 1378 01:04:47,800 --> 01:04:48,720 Speaker 5: it's impossible to. 1379 01:04:48,640 --> 01:04:53,560 Speaker 8: Say so stupid, right, yeahvant she just needs to be like, yeah, 1380 01:04:53,600 --> 01:04:58,760 Speaker 8: he did have better game than you, It doesn't matter 1381 01:04:58,840 --> 01:05:00,000 Speaker 8: because I'm with you. 1382 01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:02,080 Speaker 5: We talked more and more, and it seemed that her 1383 01:05:02,120 --> 01:05:04,200 Speaker 5: way of assuring me seemed to be in telling me 1384 01:05:04,320 --> 01:05:07,080 Speaker 5: everything that I provide to her. Oh that I'm super 1385 01:05:07,080 --> 01:05:09,080 Speaker 5: smart and that our kids would be smart too, Oh, 1386 01:05:09,080 --> 01:05:10,920 Speaker 5: that I have a good job, that my family is 1387 01:05:10,960 --> 01:05:14,200 Speaker 5: super sweet, nothing about oh I just want for you, 1388 01:05:14,560 --> 01:05:17,240 Speaker 5: I want you for you, or any spicy aspect that 1389 01:05:17,320 --> 01:05:20,720 Speaker 5: you are so schmexy. After the talk, I told her 1390 01:05:20,720 --> 01:05:23,040 Speaker 5: that I was going to stay over at my brother's apartment. 1391 01:05:23,520 --> 01:05:26,320 Speaker 5: She begged me to stay. We talked more and more, 1392 01:05:26,400 --> 01:05:28,840 Speaker 5: and I told her too that I was planning on proposing. 1393 01:05:28,880 --> 01:05:31,960 Speaker 5: Because she started pressing why. I was looking through her 1394 01:05:32,080 --> 01:05:35,080 Speaker 5: drive and I showed her what I made so far. 1395 01:05:35,360 --> 01:05:35,720 Speaker 1: Yie. 1396 01:05:36,680 --> 01:05:38,720 Speaker 5: At my brother's place, I talked to him and he 1397 01:05:38,800 --> 01:05:41,680 Speaker 5: told me one that I'll love again, that I can 1398 01:05:41,760 --> 01:05:44,640 Speaker 5: have the same feelings, if not more. Two that not 1399 01:05:44,720 --> 01:05:46,840 Speaker 5: all women are like this, not all of them make 1400 01:05:47,120 --> 01:05:49,920 Speaker 5: spicy sleep tapes with friends with benefits what. 1401 01:05:50,640 --> 01:05:52,320 Speaker 2: Your brother sucks doing. 1402 01:05:53,280 --> 01:05:56,280 Speaker 5: Your brother sucks too. Three He told me that the 1403 01:05:56,280 --> 01:05:58,560 Speaker 5: biggest red flag was the fact that she gives more 1404 01:05:58,640 --> 01:06:02,320 Speaker 5: to spicy sleep with casual partners than she does with 1405 01:06:02,400 --> 01:06:04,560 Speaker 5: the guy that she's to her future husband. I hate 1406 01:06:04,560 --> 01:06:06,919 Speaker 5: your brother. I literally hate your brother. 1407 01:06:07,360 --> 01:06:08,479 Speaker 2: None of that makes any sense. 1408 01:06:08,520 --> 01:06:11,120 Speaker 8: She's not only doing this because she could tell Okay, 1409 01:06:11,160 --> 01:06:13,880 Speaker 8: he's really in a fragile state right now, and she 1410 01:06:13,920 --> 01:06:17,640 Speaker 8: felt like she couldn't just say yeah, yes, it was. 1411 01:06:17,600 --> 01:06:20,520 Speaker 5: Better, and don't bother asking because you want her to 1412 01:06:20,840 --> 01:06:22,400 Speaker 5: want to do it, not beg for it. 1413 01:06:23,040 --> 01:06:23,240 Speaker 4: Four. 1414 01:06:23,920 --> 01:06:26,720 Speaker 5: Only stay if I feel things with her are truly special, 1415 01:06:26,920 --> 01:06:30,280 Speaker 5: that there are some circumstances in her and this relationship 1416 01:06:30,320 --> 01:06:32,360 Speaker 5: I won't be able to find in another woman. 1417 01:06:33,080 --> 01:06:33,400 Speaker 2: Five. 1418 01:06:33,520 --> 01:06:35,560 Speaker 5: No matter what happens, this would be on the back 1419 01:06:35,600 --> 01:06:38,400 Speaker 5: of my mind and haunt me if I choose to stay. 1420 01:06:38,920 --> 01:06:41,680 Speaker 5: I thought about a relationship and it was tough. Had 1421 01:06:41,680 --> 01:06:44,120 Speaker 5: I been younger, breaking up would have been easier, but 1422 01:06:44,280 --> 01:06:47,200 Speaker 5: now it was much tougher to let go. I hate you. 1423 01:06:47,880 --> 01:06:50,280 Speaker 5: I thought about my own mental state and realized that 1424 01:06:50,320 --> 01:06:54,040 Speaker 5: I would much rather start fresh with someone. I talked 1425 01:06:54,040 --> 01:06:56,000 Speaker 5: to my girlfriend and I told her we were done. 1426 01:06:56,280 --> 01:06:58,800 Speaker 5: Oh this is giving small pep energy. 1427 01:06:59,480 --> 01:07:02,880 Speaker 2: It shown Yeah, yeah, I don't even. 1428 01:07:02,720 --> 01:07:06,880 Speaker 5: Need to know anything else. I know it's giving swompype energy. 1429 01:07:07,000 --> 01:07:09,360 Speaker 5: This led to a lot of tears, crying, and more 1430 01:07:09,400 --> 01:07:12,640 Speaker 5: tears back and forth. She started spam calling me, but 1431 01:07:12,720 --> 01:07:14,560 Speaker 5: I needed to do it. I got a phone call 1432 01:07:14,560 --> 01:07:16,280 Speaker 5: from her mom telling me that we have so much 1433 01:07:16,360 --> 01:07:20,080 Speaker 5: history to please reconsider it. I had mutual friends reach 1434 01:07:20,160 --> 01:07:24,520 Speaker 5: out to me. It's been crazy, little sad face. I 1435 01:07:24,520 --> 01:07:26,400 Speaker 5: don't know if in ten years I'll look back and 1436 01:07:26,440 --> 01:07:28,840 Speaker 5: say this was a huge mistake. I don't know if 1437 01:07:28,920 --> 01:07:31,320 Speaker 5: my next girlfriend might even have even worse things on 1438 01:07:31,360 --> 01:07:35,439 Speaker 5: our Google Cloud account. Stop looking at people's Google Cloud accounts. 1439 01:07:35,920 --> 01:07:38,200 Speaker 5: I don't know, but I know that this relationship was 1440 01:07:38,240 --> 01:07:42,640 Speaker 5: hurting my mental state too much. Okay, all right, bye, 1441 01:07:43,360 --> 01:07:46,040 Speaker 5: go bye, Go be with someone who's never been in 1442 01:07:46,080 --> 01:07:46,680 Speaker 5: a relationship. 1443 01:07:46,680 --> 01:07:48,680 Speaker 1: I guess what's going through your brain. 1444 01:07:50,120 --> 01:07:50,920 Speaker 2: Just if it's like. 1445 01:07:51,440 --> 01:07:54,040 Speaker 5: I'm just shocked that the one thing that I would 1446 01:07:54,680 --> 01:07:57,320 Speaker 5: give him, like you know that I would be on 1447 01:07:57,400 --> 01:07:59,919 Speaker 5: his side about, which is her having the pictures still 1448 01:08:00,000 --> 01:08:02,760 Speaker 5: on her phone. Yeah, he's not even that upset about. 1449 01:08:03,080 --> 01:08:05,600 Speaker 7: This guy's so caught up on the fact that, like, 1450 01:08:05,720 --> 01:08:10,360 Speaker 7: clearly this guy's packing and he's like, I can't do it, 1451 01:08:10,400 --> 01:08:14,120 Speaker 7: and she just needs to be like, you're right, he was, he. 1452 01:08:14,160 --> 01:08:18,880 Speaker 8: Had more, but but there's more to do it than that. 1453 01:08:19,000 --> 01:08:19,400 Speaker 5: My God,