1 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:06,040 Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome to the battle Ground Podcast. This 2 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:10,080 Speaker 1: is a podcast all about professional wrestling. Joined Battle and 3 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 1: Eli as a breakdown what's going on in the world 4 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 1: of professional wrestling with special guests including some of your 5 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:18,079 Speaker 1: favorite wrestling superstars. 6 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 2: You never know who's gonna stop by now making their way. 7 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 3: To the microphone. 8 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 1: Give it up for the greatest podcast team in the world, 9 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 1: Battle and Eli. 10 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:36,239 Speaker 2: It's up you guys. It is time for another episode 11 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 2: of America's favorite wrestling podcast, the Battleground Podcast. I am 12 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 2: your host Battle along with my co host. 13 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 3: This is Ela. 14 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 2: Now. 15 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 3: Is that official? Is this the America's favorite wrestling. 16 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:49,240 Speaker 2: Do we win in? No, We're just gonna go ahead 17 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:50,639 Speaker 2: and say it. I mean, we're just gonna put out 18 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:52,239 Speaker 2: in the universe. We can say that because a lot 19 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 2: of people listen to the podcast. 20 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I think if we say it enough, 21 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:57,279 Speaker 4: maybe it'll come true. 22 00:00:58,120 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 3: It will. 23 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 2: And I mean, judging by the ratings and the comments 24 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 2: on our I guess all the podcast thing, it seems 25 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 2: like it's a good podcast for people like it. 26 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 3: Enjoy it. 27 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 2: I mean I enjoy it. Yeah, I'm biased because it's 28 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 2: our podcast. 29 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 3: Of course, we're growing bit by bit. 30 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:17,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, we're growing a bit by bit, sou Before we 31 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:19,399 Speaker 2: start jumping into wrestling, I want to talk about something 32 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:23,679 Speaker 2: and I kind of died laughing scrolling through Facebook. But 33 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 2: apparently ELI saw a Facebook ad maybe about a Freddy 34 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:29,959 Speaker 2: Krueger mask. Can we talk about this for a second. 35 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:30,480 Speaker 3: Yeah. 36 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 4: So, so last year I was, well two years ago, 37 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:38,320 Speaker 4: I was sexy sex man from Lost Boys, like I had. 38 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 4: I had the curly hair, and I had like the 39 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 4: muscle suit on and the saxophone and. 40 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 3: It was awesome. 41 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 4: Didn't he go on tour by the way, Yeah, I 42 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 4: think he's pretty much toured the whole like ever since 43 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 4: the Lost Boys came out, so for the last thirty years. 44 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 4: But he just did a big thing like in the 45 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 4: last year or so. So last year I decided to 46 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 4: up it a little bit and I was Freddy krue 47 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 4: from Part three and it was where he pulls the 48 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 4: girl through the TV and you know, welcome to Rome time, bitch. So, 49 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:09,640 Speaker 4: like I had the Freddy mask and I built like 50 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:11,919 Speaker 4: a TV around me and I had a doll hanging 51 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:15,240 Speaker 4: out of it and didn't look super great, but like 52 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 4: the mask was incredible. Well, what I was wearing the mask. 53 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:21,239 Speaker 4: It actually ripped because it was latex and stuff and 54 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 4: it was kind of expensive. So I sent it back 55 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 4: to the guy that I bought it from, and for 56 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 4: some reason he refunded my money and I was like, okay, 57 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 4: that's weird. And so then we just never picked back up. 58 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 3: So what you just said. 59 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 4: I was scrolling through like Instagram or something, and I 60 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 4: saw a I saw like a Watchman mask, and I 61 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:44,240 Speaker 4: was like, that's kind of cool. When I was scrolling around, 62 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 4: and then I saw Freddy mask and it looked very 63 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:48,360 Speaker 4: similar to the one that I got last year, and 64 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 4: I was like. 65 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:51,360 Speaker 3: Wow, that's that looks pretty good quality, you know. 66 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:54,799 Speaker 4: And it was a fraction of the cost, obviously from 67 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 4: what I got last year, so I was like, okay, 68 00:02:56,600 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 4: I'll roll the dice. It also kind of irritated me 69 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 4: because I paid for like this like seven to ten 70 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 4: day shipping thing and it did not get there in 71 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 4: seven to ten days. And this thing was awful, Like 72 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:18,520 Speaker 4: I I mean I almost I almost cried from like laughter, 73 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:20,080 Speaker 4: not from like sadness. 74 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:24,239 Speaker 3: I mean it was just not good at all. 75 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know anyone that would be able 76 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 4: to look at the ad and look at the mask 77 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 4: and look at what I got and be like, oh, yeah, 78 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 4: that's the same thing. Like they're not even in the 79 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 4: same category, you know. So I mean, I'll we'll put 80 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 4: we'll put them up on Instagram and let you look 81 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 4: at it and see judge for yourself. 82 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 2: But I'm still looking. I'm looking at it right now 83 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:48,839 Speaker 2: and I'm dying laughing by the way. 84 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean immediately, So yeah, I immediately emailed them 85 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 4: and said, nope, I want to refund now. And then 86 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 4: there's all these stories out about people, you know, like 87 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 4: wish dot com or geek dot com or whatever, and 88 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 4: they'll they'll they'll buy something at a good price and 89 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 4: then it's nothing like with what's advertised, and you know, 90 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 4: so I had a feeling it was gonna happen, but 91 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:16,280 Speaker 4: you know it was just when we post it up, 92 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 4: you'll you'll be able to judge it. I mean, it's 93 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 4: you know, maybe my eyes are just bad. Maybe it 94 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 4: looks exactly like it and I'm just you know, but 95 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 4: to me, it looks a little off. 96 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:26,920 Speaker 3: So we'll let you judge that. 97 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 2: And that's that's kind of I'm in the same boat 98 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:32,359 Speaker 2: right now because with Halloween being just a couple of 99 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:34,159 Speaker 2: days away, which, by the way, we're gonna talk about 100 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:36,719 Speaker 2: Halloween havoc on the show. Yes, this is gonna be 101 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 2: a Halloween edition kind of show. But it's like, I'm 102 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 2: going as penny Wise for Halloween and then of course 103 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 2: our two year old son is going to be Georgie, 104 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:49,600 Speaker 2: but then he's gonna get superpowers and become Spider Man 105 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:52,920 Speaker 2: later when we go trick or treating. But I'm trying 106 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 2: to find like a decent Pennywise costume on Amazon Prime 107 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:58,480 Speaker 2: because I went to the Halloween stores and they were 108 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 2: like super expensive, and I was like, good lord, But 109 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 2: Amazon Prime is like Ruby's It costume is like thirty 110 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 2: nine dollars for mass but it's one night only, so 111 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:09,039 Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm not trying to go ball to the 112 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:10,920 Speaker 2: wall and still at the same time, I don't want 113 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:14,280 Speaker 2: to look cheap and shoddy. 114 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 4: So yeah, anyways, yeah, it's I mean, it's definitely there's 115 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 4: a lot of money to be made for Halloween stuff. 116 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 4: But yeah, it's like we were talking about before we 117 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 4: started recording, like, you know, it's a it's one night 118 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:29,839 Speaker 4: you know, unless you're going to several you know, costume parties, 119 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 4: you know, so you're basically wearing it the one time 120 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 4: and then next year you're most likely going to get 121 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 4: a new costume. So it literally maybe just a one 122 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 4: time thing, so you know, dropping down one hundred bucks, 123 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 4: two hundred bucks, three hundred bucks. It's just like I mean, 124 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 4: unless you can find a way to use it again, 125 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 4: it's just a very big expense for one time use, 126 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 4: you know. 127 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 2: Right, And it's it's scary because you buy it on 128 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 2: Amazon Prime, which is it's scary because you could return it. 129 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:56,920 Speaker 2: But then it's like you read the reviews on certain 130 00:05:56,920 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 2: masks and you're like, oh god, there's a reason why 131 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 2: that's fourteen dollars. There's a reason why that that's you know, 132 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 2: a very shoddy mask. So anyways, yeah, let's kind of 133 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 2: now that we've kind of talked about some Halloween, let's 134 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:13,040 Speaker 2: go to Halloween and talk to some wrestling Halloween havoc, 135 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:17,719 Speaker 2: which we actually have a very what is it a 136 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:22,279 Speaker 2: history a historic note to say, I really don't know 137 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 2: how to use different a sentence. I went to Metro 138 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 2: and I have a community college degree, so. 139 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 3: It happens there's that. 140 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 4: Yes, So this episode will drop on October twenty eighth 141 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:37,039 Speaker 4: and October twenty eighth will be the thirtieth anniversary of 142 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:42,160 Speaker 4: the very first Halloween Havoc And that was another obviously 143 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 4: another pay per view created by the one and only 144 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 4: American dream Dusty Rhods, And you know, it's had some 145 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 4: I mean obviously just as a kid being obsessed with 146 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:56,600 Speaker 4: horror and Halloween and then getting into wrestling and then 147 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:58,719 Speaker 4: they're like, well, how about this for October, We're going 148 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:01,599 Speaker 4: to do this kind of Halloween themed pay per view. 149 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:03,599 Speaker 4: I mean, it was just that was my favorite. I 150 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:07,359 Speaker 4: think that's the one we've rented more times. I remember, 151 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 4: just sporadic, like for some reason. I remember, like the 152 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 4: nineteen ninety or the ninety one Roller Rumble. My dad 153 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 4: let us rent that one for some reason. 154 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:16,239 Speaker 3: It was weird. 155 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 4: And but the Halloween Havoc I think we rented more 156 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 4: times than any of the other ones growing up. So yeah, 157 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 4: I love that, love that pay per view. I forgot 158 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 4: that it was the thirtieth anniversary this year, so it's 159 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 4: kind of cool that this episode will be dropping on 160 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 4: the thirtieth anniversary. 161 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 2: So yeah, boom there it is. So what we kind 162 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 2: of want to do is for a little bit, we 163 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 2: kind of want to talk about like memorable moments of 164 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 2: Halloween Havoc that we had, and kind of like you said, 165 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 2: I guess the one memorable moment for me of Halloween 166 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 2: Havoc was an old VHS tape. It was Halloween Havoc 167 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 2: nineteen ninety one, so that was according to Wikipedia, that 168 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 2: was the third Halloween Habit and that one faced Lex 169 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 2: Luga versus Ron Simmons in the main event. But the 170 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 2: thing stood out to me the most was the Chamber 171 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 2: of Horrors match, which was a team of El Gigante 172 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 2: sting the Steiner Brothers. 173 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 3: And let me let me, let me. 174 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 2: See, I always mess it up. My my redneck comes 175 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 2: out and I can't read. So anyways, Ellegante, which faced 176 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 2: against the team ap dual with the Butcher, the Diamond Stud, 177 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 2: Cactus Jack, Big Van Vader, and yeah, so it was 178 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:39,320 Speaker 2: a funny thing on that match because the stipulation was 179 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 2: it was a big cage. It kicked off the show, 180 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 2: and the way to win the match was putting your 181 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 2: opponent in the electric chair and electrocuting them. That's how 182 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 2: you end the match. 183 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I vaguely remember that one. I just you know, 184 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 4: obviously Elligante went over to WWE, and he was Giant Gonzales. 185 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:01,560 Speaker 4: Vince was just like, we're not dealing with that name. 186 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 4: You're Giant Gonzales. That's it, you know. 187 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 3: So he was. 188 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 4: He was a big bitch. I mean, he wasn't that 189 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 4: great of a wrestler. He was just obviously he was 190 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 4: seventh seven feet taller, or he might've been tallerant that 191 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 4: seven to seven or something. 192 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:14,679 Speaker 3: I don't know. 193 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:17,080 Speaker 4: So he was just kind of one of those attraction 194 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 4: kind of guys. 195 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 2: According to media, his built hide is eight foot. 196 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:24,560 Speaker 4: Well there you go. Yeah he was a fucking big bitch. 197 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 4: But but yeah, I vaguely remember that one. I think 198 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 4: that well, I can't remember. I can't remember the main 199 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 4: event because I know Ron Simmons beat someone else for 200 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 4: the belt. I don't think he beat Les Slugar. I 201 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 4: think he beat either Vader or Stan Hansen is who 202 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 4: he beat for the world title. So I don't remember 203 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 4: it slicking, see, I mean, I have Google right at 204 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 4: my fingertips, but I'm not pulling it up. 205 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 2: According to Wikipedia that it was Lex Sluger. Ron's Lex 206 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:01,319 Speaker 2: Luger with Harley Race defeated Simmons with Dusty Rhodes, a 207 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 2: two out of three falls match. According to Wikipedia, that 208 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 2: was the main event. 209 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, so I wonder if who was one of them 210 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 4: the world champ at that point. 211 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 2: Luger was the champ okay, so he might have according 212 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 2: to Wikipedia. Now Wikipedia has always messed up, so I mean, yeah, 213 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 2: it's been so long since I've watched this up. 214 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 4: So I wonder if if Front Simmons had dropped it 215 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 4: at that by the end and then that was one 216 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 4: of the rematches. I wonder because I can't remember when 217 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 4: Ron Simmons won it. I think it was ninety or 218 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 4: ninety one. So but anyways, I. 219 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:38,559 Speaker 2: Mean, it's a I'm looking at the Wikipedia page, it's 220 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:42,560 Speaker 2: just pretty uh stack card. You had Bobby Eaton defeated 221 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 2: Terrence Taylor, Johnny b Bad defeated Jimmy Garvin with Michael 222 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 2: Hayes Toedy long was there. Steve Austin was the TV 223 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 2: champ and he fought Dustin Rhodes. 224 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:58,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, that was that was one of mine. That was 225 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:00,040 Speaker 4: that was a pretty solid. 226 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 2: Let's see, let's see your boy arn Anderson was on there. 227 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 2: Him and Larry's Abisco defeated the Patriots. 228 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 4: Little pre brain buster or that was probably post brain Buster. 229 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:13,960 Speaker 4: I think they had already came back. 230 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 3: From WW as the brain Boast now it is. 231 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 4: That actually wasn't the Brainbusters. The Brainbusters was Ron and Tully. 232 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 4: It wasn't Ron and Larry's Abisco, but Larry's Abisco was 233 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:26,719 Speaker 4: definitely kind of in that wheelhouse. 234 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 3: Him and Arn had a similar style. 235 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 4: So so I'll just go ahead, And I mean, obviously, 236 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:42,079 Speaker 4: I think the greatest I think the probably the greatest 237 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 4: match from a Halloween Havoc. 238 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 3: Is arguably. 239 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 4: Gray Mysterial Junior versus Eddie Guerrero from Halloween Having ninety seven. 240 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:59,559 Speaker 3: That was for the that was for the cruiseweight. 241 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:04,719 Speaker 4: Yeah, that was for the Cruiserweight title. And I mean 242 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 4: it's just and you know they've wrestled a ton over 243 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 4: the years before Eddie passed, and I mean a lot 244 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:14,840 Speaker 4: of people say that's just their best match together, you know, period. 245 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:18,839 Speaker 4: So that's you know, that was one of the ones 246 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:23,560 Speaker 4: we rented. That was right in the middle of the 247 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 4: whole Sting versus nWo thing, and then a couple months 248 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:30,079 Speaker 4: later he beat Hogan at at Starcade. 249 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:36,560 Speaker 3: There there was what was another one we were. 250 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 4: Talking about, Oh, in nineteen eighty nine, Flying Brian Pillman 251 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:46,320 Speaker 4: fought like s Luger for the n WA US title, 252 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 4: and that one was a pretty solid match. That feud 253 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 4: was one of my favorites in the late eighties. Like 254 00:12:57,360 --> 00:13:00,160 Speaker 4: it kind of it always reminded me of like a 255 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 4: big brother, little brother kind of thing because they both 256 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 4: kind of had the long hair, and they both kind 257 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 4: of had a you know, muscular build, and you know, 258 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 4: Luger is probably a little bit more stronger than Pillman, 259 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:16,200 Speaker 4: but Pillman could do the high flying stuff, and it 260 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:20,319 Speaker 4: always just seems like Pillman just never could get the 261 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:23,440 Speaker 4: upper hand, you know, like every time they were you know, 262 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:26,200 Speaker 4: it just seemed like every time he got close, Luger 263 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:28,959 Speaker 4: somehow figured it out. So it always kind of had 264 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 4: that big brother little brother dynamic. But that was the 265 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 4: very first one that was from eighty nine. I think 266 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 4: you liked the one from ninety three, right. 267 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, So ninety three that was probably another one of 268 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:45,560 Speaker 2: my favorite pay per views. You had Big Van Vader 269 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:48,720 Speaker 2: with Harley Race and going against Cactus Jack in a 270 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 2: Texas death match. But I did actually get to sit 271 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 2: down and talk with Mick Foley not too long ago 272 00:13:56,080 --> 00:14:01,320 Speaker 2: before we like made this an official wrestling podcast, but 273 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 2: he did kind of go into details. I didn't want 274 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:07,079 Speaker 2: to ask him about the Chamber of Horrors match, and 275 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 2: in the in the match, like he he kind of 276 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:14,079 Speaker 2: talked about how everything was. Here is Mick Foley talking 277 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 2: about the Chamber of Horrors match. 278 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 3: It was awful. 279 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 5: The whole concept, I mean there was It was like 280 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 5: an all star team of bad guys. It was me 281 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 5: and a duel with the Butcher Scott Hall, who you 282 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 5: know later go on to be raising Ramone, uh Big Ban, 283 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 5: Big Van Vader. But the whole concept that you win 284 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 5: a match by putting one of the opponents in an 285 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:37,640 Speaker 5: electric chair where he then. 286 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 2: It's electri com. 287 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 5: You know, it tugs at the It's tough to suspend 288 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 5: disbelief when I've duel with the Butcher's being fried in 289 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 5: an electric chair. 290 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 2: Right, And I think that was the kind of thing 291 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 2: that got me into wrestling. I was sitting there watching 292 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 2: it and I kept rewinding the match. I didn't care 293 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:00,160 Speaker 2: about the rest of the card because that was when 294 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 2: I started falling in love with Anniversary. 295 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 5: Chamber of Horrors, Bring that, Bring that awful night alive. 296 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 5: And there was also there was a malfunction with the 297 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 5: switch that I already been pulled before I Eving got down, 298 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 5: you know, climbed up the thing, and then I had 299 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 5: to pretend I didn't see it and gently like put 300 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 5: it back up to the arms, you know, the boom 301 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 5: and pull the switch again. But I'm glad you liked it. 302 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 2: That that was the defining moment that I was like, 303 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 2: I'm a huge wrestling fan. 304 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, and I mean I I you know, I gave 305 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 5: I put everything I had into those those matches and 306 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 5: those portrayals. I believe that match. I was like, it'd 307 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 5: be a good idea to be thrown over the top 308 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 5: rope and hit the cage upside down, and I did, 309 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 5: and then I would rarely think of, well then what 310 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 5: happens to my body once it hits the cage upside down? 311 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 5: And the answer is it will drop like a rock. 312 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 2: Nick Foley kind of talked about that match, and you 313 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 2: did kind of see the match. What Mick was talking 314 00:15:55,760 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 2: about was that the I guess the switch falling down 315 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 2: in he had to like elegant elegantly. I'm literally horrible 316 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 2: Today's with words. You saw him trying to be nonchalant 317 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 2: put the switch back to electrocute Abdual the Butcher, which 318 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 2: which was a very interesting thing for a match like 319 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 2: that that you probably could not have that match in 320 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 2: this era. 321 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 4: No, and I love I loved both those guys in 322 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:26,720 Speaker 4: the early nineties. 323 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 3: I mean, Vader his whole package. 324 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 4: I mean, I don't remember if it was exactly when 325 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 4: he debuted, but I remember I think it was the 326 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 4: Great American Bash. I think it was the one that 327 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 4: Sting beat Flair for the first time for the first title. 328 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 4: But he came out with his head dress, you know, 329 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 4: the big black you know, had like the shoulder pads 330 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 4: and all that crap, and then he put it down 331 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 4: on the walkway and then it started blowing the smoke 332 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 4: and crap, and then he was just freaking big and 333 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 4: mean and strong and he was doing high flying crap 334 00:16:56,360 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 4: and I mean, to be a kid and see it 335 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 4: was just like is this is this an alien? 336 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 3: Like what is going on? 337 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:04,679 Speaker 4: I mean, it was just massive. And then same thing 338 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:08,119 Speaker 4: Cactus Jack. I mean, he was just unhinged. And I 339 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 4: mean he had some great matches with Staying, and you know, 340 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:13,000 Speaker 4: just putting them together was just kind of a no brainer. 341 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 4: A couple of the other ones that I forgot about 342 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:19,880 Speaker 4: that were good, but I just googled him and surprisingly 343 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 4: there's actually you can actually if you google like best 344 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:26,639 Speaker 4: Halloween havoc matches, there's you know, people have compiled like 345 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:28,640 Speaker 4: top ten lists and stuff. So we're not the only 346 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:31,200 Speaker 4: ones that have thought of this, so we're not quite 347 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 4: as creative as we were thinking. But the Goldberg versus 348 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:40,720 Speaker 4: DDP from ninety eight was the for the world title, 349 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 4: and this one, if you remember, this was a classic 350 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:49,400 Speaker 4: WCW botch. I think it was because Hogan and Warrior 351 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:52,640 Speaker 4: went longer. This match got cut off from the pay 352 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:54,680 Speaker 4: per view. So back in the old days, you had 353 00:17:54,680 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 4: a specific time limit for pay per views, and I mean, 354 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:03,480 Speaker 4: you know, if it was going from seven to ten, 355 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 4: at exactly ten o'clock, you were off there like that 356 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:06,640 Speaker 4: was it? 357 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:07,960 Speaker 3: Like they were moving on to. 358 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:10,479 Speaker 4: The next you know, a movie you could rent or whatever, 359 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:12,879 Speaker 4: and you've kind of ran into it. I guess it 360 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 4: all in last year the Bucks match, the final match, 361 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 4: they had to cut it short because they were run 362 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:19,439 Speaker 4: out of time. So you don't really see it much 363 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:22,239 Speaker 4: anymore because most of the quote unquote pay reviews are 364 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 4: just on the WW network so they own it. It 365 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:28,720 Speaker 4: doesn't really matter. But anyways, so people paid the fifty bucks, 366 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:30,440 Speaker 4: sixty bucks whatever it is, and then they didn't get 367 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:32,639 Speaker 4: the main event, so they had to show it the 368 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 4: next night on T in yeah, on Nitro T and 369 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:40,400 Speaker 4: T for free. So they just dropped the ball on that. 370 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:45,679 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, So at the point of view, but that 371 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 4: one was a really good match. You know, you had 372 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 4: certain you had a lot of certain wrestlers that, you know, 373 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 4: really pulled out some good matches from Goldberg. 374 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:01,160 Speaker 3: You know, he's you. 375 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:04,359 Speaker 4: Know, obviously not known as the most accomplished worker. You know, 376 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:07,639 Speaker 4: his wheelhouse is his wheelhouse and it works very well. 377 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 4: So to get somebody like DDP and I think they 378 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 4: went ten minutes or twelve minutes or something. I mean, 379 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 4: it was a pretty for a Goldberg match, It was 380 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 4: a pretty long match. So that one, you know, kind 381 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 4: of minus the SNAPHU. You know, that one was a 382 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 4: really solid match. And then the year before that also DDP, 383 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 4: but it was the macho man Randy Savage against DDP 384 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:36,159 Speaker 4: and a last man Standing match slash Las Vegas sudden 385 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:42,639 Speaker 4: death match, and that was again ninety seven. That was 386 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:46,480 Speaker 4: right in the middle of the Sting versus nWo versus 387 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 4: Hogan thing and and that's uh, that was a really 388 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:57,360 Speaker 4: solid match too. Somebody on one of the lists says, 389 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:01,439 Speaker 4: let's see, I think this match benefits from watching the 390 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:05,160 Speaker 4: feud transpires throughout the year, but even as a standalone match, 391 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:07,719 Speaker 4: it is great to see how elevated DDP is and 392 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:11,359 Speaker 4: this is in many ways feels like Savage's last great 393 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 4: feud of his career. And I agree him and DDP 394 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:18,359 Speaker 4: had some there at Spring Stampede together, great American Bash. 395 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 4: I mean they had a lot of really solid matches 396 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:25,920 Speaker 4: and then this one at Halloween Havoc from ninety seven 397 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:28,120 Speaker 4: was a really good one as well. 398 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 2: And you know it's you mentioned DDP, which this actually 399 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 2: is a good transition into the next subject because we 400 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:36,160 Speaker 2: kind of you know, there's been a lot of Halloween 401 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:38,919 Speaker 2: havocs and we want to know, I guess your favorite 402 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 2: Halloween havocs, So you can hit us up on our 403 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:46,160 Speaker 2: social media Battleground Podcast on Instagram, Battleground hr on Twitter, 404 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 2: and then of course our Facebook page search Battleground Podcast. 405 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 2: But DDP, this is a good transition, right that we 406 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:56,439 Speaker 2: can talk about this. W we'll talk about that. So 407 00:20:56,520 --> 00:21:00,359 Speaker 2: DDP showed up to AW this past Wednesday night, another 408 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:09,439 Speaker 2: WCW legend icon coming into AW and shocked the world. 409 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 2: And I think the one thing that that stood out 410 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:13,720 Speaker 2: the entire thing, if it wasn't just the fact that 411 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 2: DDP came down the ramp, but of course MJF being MJF, 412 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:20,399 Speaker 2: did the upside down diamond. And the first thing that 413 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:23,119 Speaker 2: pops in my head was from ready to rumble when 414 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 2: Sean William or yeah, when Sean Williamscott looks at DP 415 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:29,880 Speaker 2: throws a pattern like diamond upside down is a pussy Yeah, 416 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:31,200 Speaker 2: And that was the first thing to pop to my 417 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:34,359 Speaker 2: head when I saw that on TV. And then of 418 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:37,639 Speaker 2: course MJF tweeted it and I said, I tweeted him 419 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:41,040 Speaker 2: the video of it. Thought that was funny. But just 420 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:44,959 Speaker 2: kind of looking at the ratings and I guess the 421 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 2: newness kind of has worn off on AW. They still 422 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 2: didn't get a million viewers, but they got nine hundred 423 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:57,119 Speaker 2: and sixty three thousand viewers on Wednesday night, which is 424 00:21:57,520 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 2: for the demo of eighteen forty nine, which is that 425 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:04,160 Speaker 2: wrestling about that they're going after. And then NCT got 426 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:09,639 Speaker 2: six hundred and ninety eight thousand viewers of the same demographic. 427 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:11,240 Speaker 2: But the thing that stood out that a lot of 428 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:13,480 Speaker 2: people were kind of talked about but you didn't really 429 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 2: see much because everybody was watching aw was the fact 430 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 2: that Finn Balor turned heel and went back to the 431 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:22,359 Speaker 2: Prince character. M. 432 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, and. 433 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:31,639 Speaker 4: I mean I'm all about it. I think we've I 434 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:35,200 Speaker 4: think we've talked about it before. I kind of gravitate 435 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 4: towards the heels more just because I think it. I mean, 436 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:45,919 Speaker 4: it really takes a lot of to like get people 437 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:48,720 Speaker 4: to where they hate you, but not what they call 438 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:51,960 Speaker 4: go home heat where they're just like, you know, Baron 439 00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 4: Corbin kind of blurs into that, because I mean there's 440 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:57,720 Speaker 4: sometimes where it's just like I don't want to see 441 00:22:57,760 --> 00:22:59,679 Speaker 4: you in the ring. It's not that I hate you, 442 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:01,440 Speaker 4: I just I don't want to see you in the ring, 443 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 4: and that's not what you want to do. So if 444 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:05,240 Speaker 4: you can be a really I think Triple H has 445 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:07,720 Speaker 4: been an excellent heel, you know, I mean, he's he's 446 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 4: he's always had just enough to where people hate him 447 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 4: and boo him, but then they're like, I mean, I'm 448 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:17,120 Speaker 4: still gonna stick around and watch the match, but fuck 449 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:21,000 Speaker 4: you. You know that kind of a thing. So, you know, 450 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 4: Finn when he was in New Japan and he created, 451 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:27,880 Speaker 4: you know, started the Bullet Club and all that like that, 452 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:32,400 Speaker 4: that run was just awesome. And you know, I think 453 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:35,199 Speaker 4: when he came over ten XT and he's like, I 454 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 4: want to do this demon character and sometimes I have 455 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:42,439 Speaker 4: you know, face paint on and sometimes I don't. I 456 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:44,880 Speaker 4: think they just saw dollar signs. So they're like, well, cool, 457 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:50,280 Speaker 4: you're gonna be the good guy obviously. So they've been 458 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:52,679 Speaker 4: you know, they've talked about kind of putting him with 459 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:55,920 Speaker 4: I guess they're calling the OC now, and I mean 460 00:23:55,920 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 4: that's pretty much what the original Bullet Club. And when 461 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:03,720 Speaker 4: they talked about that, I never really assumed they would 462 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:06,919 Speaker 4: make him a heal to do that, just because of 463 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:10,640 Speaker 4: how much merch he sells and everything. But I think 464 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:14,680 Speaker 4: it's awesome. I mean, I think him with undisputed error, 465 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 4: it's kind of a no brainer. You know, Adam Adam 466 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:23,480 Speaker 4: Cole was in the Bullet Club obviously, and but that 467 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:25,679 Speaker 4: just kind of shows you that you have one. 468 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:26,440 Speaker 3: Of your. 469 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 4: You know, whether they won't admit it or not. But 470 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 4: I mean, Finn Balorch is probably one of your ten 471 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:35,720 Speaker 4: biggest superstars at the moment, you know, from not only 472 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 4: popularity but also merch sales. 473 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:38,200 Speaker 3: And. 474 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:41,840 Speaker 4: To not only move him to the NXT and then 475 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:45,879 Speaker 4: have him turn in a shocking way and you know, 476 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 4: create all this buzz and then it still. 477 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:50,600 Speaker 3: Doesn't beat a w. 478 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:53,920 Speaker 4: I mean, it's kind of you know, I bet you 479 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:56,399 Speaker 4: Triple H and them were like, well, what do we 480 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 4: do now? Like, what do we have to do to 481 00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:01,960 Speaker 4: bump us back up? So it'll be interesting to see. 482 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 4: You know, there's still rumors about bringing people from the 483 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:09,200 Speaker 4: main rosters down ten XT and you know, I guess 484 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:11,360 Speaker 4: we'll have to kind of see how it plays out. 485 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:14,240 Speaker 4: But I think last week, I guess the World Series started, 486 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:18,720 Speaker 4: and I think then NBA opening night was I think Wednesday, 487 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:21,200 Speaker 4: or maybe it was Tuesday, but then there's games on Wednesday. 488 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:23,439 Speaker 4: Like I think there was a bunch of stuff going on. 489 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:28,280 Speaker 3: But you know, we'll see. I mean, and. 490 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:32,480 Speaker 2: That that actually kind of made SmackDown kind of move 491 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:35,439 Speaker 2: around for Friday nights because of the World Series. Yeah, 492 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:37,439 Speaker 2: so trying to interrupt it. 493 00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:43,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, So I mean, it's I think, excuse me, I 494 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:47,520 Speaker 4: don't think any of us really expected AW to do 495 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 4: two or three million, you know, viewers every Wednesday. So 496 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:57,119 Speaker 4: about that million range, I think is a good number 497 00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:59,879 Speaker 4: to start with, and then hopefully they'll build on it 498 00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:03,440 Speaker 4: and hopefully they'll you know, grow and get larger from there. 499 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:08,200 Speaker 4: But you know, heading into the holidays, you know, it's 500 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:10,320 Speaker 4: kind of there's just a lot of stuff people are doing. 501 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:13,440 Speaker 4: So you've got Halloween and then Thanksgiving and then Christmas 502 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:14,960 Speaker 4: in the New Year's and you. 503 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:15,680 Speaker 3: Know, you kind of. 504 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:20,680 Speaker 4: You know, there's there's valid reasons in these last months 505 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:22,920 Speaker 4: of the year why people aren't watching TV. 506 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:24,720 Speaker 3: There's just a lot of other stuff going on. 507 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:28,960 Speaker 4: So but you know, I don't think that anybody's in 508 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:34,439 Speaker 4: panic mode yet. You know again, I think obviously I 509 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:37,640 Speaker 4: think Aw's gonna kind of have the best of nx TV. 510 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:39,159 Speaker 3: At least for the foreseeable future. 511 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:42,600 Speaker 4: But you know, it looks like they're obviously gonna send 512 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:45,679 Speaker 4: some big guns over there to you know, help with 513 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:46,000 Speaker 4: all that. 514 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 2: So right, and like we've said, you know, on the 515 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:52,920 Speaker 2: show pass, we want to see kind of like three 516 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:55,840 Speaker 2: months from now, six a year from now, see how 517 00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:57,440 Speaker 2: things are going to play out, because I mean it's 518 00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:01,960 Speaker 2: still you know, it's still the new Factor for for 519 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:05,800 Speaker 2: aew and of course AW announced that they've got some 520 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:09,160 Speaker 2: boxer that they just signed to an adult developmental deal, 521 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:11,119 Speaker 2: which good for them that they're starting to do that 522 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:15,600 Speaker 2: kind of stuff. And then they did like a promo 523 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 2: during the show that some big, you know, Vince McMahon 524 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 2: kind of guy is coming to a w which I 525 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:22,959 Speaker 2: didn't know who that guy was. 526 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:28,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, I wasn't familiar, but it. 527 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:31,240 Speaker 2: Was all I mean, all in all. I watched AW 528 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:34,639 Speaker 2: Wednesday night. I didn't watch NXT, and I kind of 529 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 2: watched everything at the end, and you know, like I 530 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 2: was texting you. You know, they start off the show 531 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:47,720 Speaker 2: and it's SCU versus Dark Order, and you know, I'm 532 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 2: sitting there thinking, I was like, Okay, I know how 533 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 2: this is going to play out. I mean, they they 534 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:55,560 Speaker 2: they hyped up the whole storyline of SCU and the 535 00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:58,679 Speaker 2: Luca brothers, and they kept like hounding it during the match, 536 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:01,439 Speaker 2: and I was like, well, we already know that. You know, 537 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:06,239 Speaker 2: SCU is going to take off and win, right, And 538 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 2: then you had that match going on and that was 539 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:10,680 Speaker 2: a phenomenal match. And then of course the next one 540 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 2: was Private Party versus Lucher Brothers or maybe it was 541 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:17,240 Speaker 2: Lucher Brothers kicked off the show. I can't remember, it's 542 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:19,640 Speaker 2: I've I've ate and slept for over the past couple 543 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:22,480 Speaker 2: of days. But those were the two matches that kind 544 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 2: of started off the show, and you know, Private Party 545 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:29,359 Speaker 2: pretty much is over now after that match, just watching 546 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:31,879 Speaker 2: those two guys go at it with with the Lucher brothers, 547 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:35,640 Speaker 2: and of course Lucher brothers win and we get sc 548 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 2: versus Lucher brothers. But the one thing that that kind 549 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:43,280 Speaker 2: of sucked in that I was watching and I texted 550 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 2: you about it, was that during the middle of the match, 551 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 2: there was some big stuff going on and all of 552 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:50,720 Speaker 2: a sudden, the camera's cut and here comes Inner Circle 553 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:54,080 Speaker 2: walking through the crowd, walking up the steps to their 554 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:57,920 Speaker 2: I guess their box that they had tickets for, and 555 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,400 Speaker 2: so like everybody all of a sudden turned around and 556 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 2: stopped watching the match and they were watching you know 557 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:04,400 Speaker 2: what was going on up there. 558 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:06,880 Speaker 3: Yeah. 559 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:13,640 Speaker 4: I actually I didn't watch any I didn't watch any 560 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 4: wrestling last week. I just being as you and I 561 00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:22,200 Speaker 4: have talked about, it's it's my busy season at work, 562 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:26,080 Speaker 4: and I've just been like, by the time I get home, 563 00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:28,200 Speaker 4: like the last thing I want to do is like 564 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 4: because Like for us, since we're obviously a wrestling podcast, 565 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:34,680 Speaker 4: we don't just like watch it. We can't just put 566 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:36,680 Speaker 4: it in the background. Like we're actually watching it and 567 00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:39,280 Speaker 4: kind of making mental notes to watch, you know, talk 568 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:42,280 Speaker 4: about in later episodes, and so you know, it does 569 00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:44,320 Speaker 4: require a little bit more attention than if we were 570 00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 4: just the casual fan because like before you know, I 571 00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:48,320 Speaker 4: hopped on the show with you, I mean I would 572 00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 4: just turn it on and then cook and you know, 573 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:52,600 Speaker 4: do my laundry whatever, and. 574 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 3: It's just always on the background. 575 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:57,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, and like with now, like we kind of at 576 00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 4: least have to put forth some effort and you know, 577 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:03,240 Speaker 4: put attention towards it. So I've just been so fried. 578 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:04,960 Speaker 3: With work. 579 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:08,280 Speaker 4: I'm just kind of like, uh so I'm hoping this 580 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 4: is like the last busy week, so next, you know, 581 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:13,320 Speaker 4: either this week or next week I can kind of 582 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:15,600 Speaker 4: get back to paying attention to it and stuff like that. 583 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:19,120 Speaker 4: But there was a lot of like I guess I 584 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:22,520 Speaker 4: would say generously, I would say mixed reviews about the 585 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:23,720 Speaker 4: aw episode. 586 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:24,800 Speaker 3: I mean it sounded like. 587 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:29,680 Speaker 4: Obviously the tag matches were awesome, and you know, I 588 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:34,200 Speaker 4: called I think it was double or nothing. When I 589 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:36,560 Speaker 4: saw Private party. I was like, these guys are freaking 590 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:41,880 Speaker 4: They're going to be stars, you know, and so, you know, 591 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,080 Speaker 4: I think the matches were fine, but I guess just 592 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:49,280 Speaker 4: the whole the box thing and Cody versus the Inner Circle, 593 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:53,200 Speaker 4: I guess. I guess some people had some criticism of that. 594 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:56,280 Speaker 3: So I don't know. 595 00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:58,600 Speaker 4: It seems like this was the first show that they've 596 00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:00,479 Speaker 4: done that was kind of like mixed. 597 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:00,920 Speaker 5: You know. 598 00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:05,080 Speaker 4: It wasn't like a home run or a triple or 599 00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:07,080 Speaker 4: you know, it wasn't like a slam dunk. It was 600 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:12,560 Speaker 4: I'm bouncing. I'm bouncing between sports things. But uh so, yeah, 601 00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:14,800 Speaker 4: I mean, I guess it'll just be interesting to see 602 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 4: how they, you know, bounce back. The good news is 603 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:21,040 Speaker 4: is that they have one show a week to focus on. 604 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:22,360 Speaker 3: That's it, you know. 605 00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:29,360 Speaker 4: So that's definitely an advantage over WWE, where they technically Raw, SmackDown, NXT, 606 00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:32,800 Speaker 4: you know, all the crap they do like main you know, 607 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:34,800 Speaker 4: main event, all that stuff, and then also all the 608 00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:37,280 Speaker 4: live shows. So I mean like they have you know, 609 00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:41,280 Speaker 4: five to seven shows a week every week, and so 610 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:44,320 Speaker 4: aw's definitely has an advantage there because they only have 611 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:45,239 Speaker 4: the one to focus on. 612 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:46,680 Speaker 3: So we'll see. 613 00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:48,560 Speaker 4: I think it'll I think it'd be a good I 614 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:52,520 Speaker 4: think it'll bounce back. I was actually this Wednesday, I'm 615 00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:55,360 Speaker 4: actually going to see Doctor Sleep early. It comes out 616 00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:58,040 Speaker 4: a week early in Nashville, so I actually will miss 617 00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:01,480 Speaker 4: AW this week, but i'll be back to watching it nice. 618 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:04,000 Speaker 2: Well then I won't text you during that you can 619 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:09,840 Speaker 2: enjoy Doctor Sleep. But I was listening to uh Busted 620 00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:12,920 Speaker 2: Open Radio and they were they had Jake Hager on, which, 621 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:16,240 Speaker 2: by the way, uh spoiler alert, he did not win 622 00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 2: his fight Friday night, a no contest after he need 623 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:21,840 Speaker 2: the guy in the groin, which I watched the video 624 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:23,520 Speaker 2: and doesn't look like he need him in the groin. 625 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:27,280 Speaker 2: But I mean, I'm not an MMA fighter. So anyways, 626 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:31,120 Speaker 2: he was on there kind of talking about the travel 627 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:34,800 Speaker 2: schedule between you know, when he was in w and AW, 628 00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:36,520 Speaker 2: and he said they only traveled two days a week, 629 00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:40,680 Speaker 2: which they kind of threw me off for a second. 630 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:43,239 Speaker 2: But then again, it's like they probably get to the 631 00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:48,280 Speaker 2: you know, the where they're the event the day before 632 00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:51,280 Speaker 2: like they would at but at you get there, like 633 00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:53,800 Speaker 2: if you're on Monday night, rall, you're getting there you 634 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:59,000 Speaker 2: know Saturday. Do the media run Sunday, Monday, you leave 635 00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:02,560 Speaker 2: out on Tuesday, I guess. But yeah, that was that 636 00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:04,200 Speaker 2: was a kind of interesting note that I took away 637 00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:06,520 Speaker 2: from that from Jay Kger. But now I guess now 638 00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:11,320 Speaker 2: we can finally get a match from him, unless something happens. 639 00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:14,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I don't. I mean, at this point, 640 00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:20,800 Speaker 4: I don't know why he wouldn't. And you know, when 641 00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:23,240 Speaker 4: when when they end like that or they have weird 642 00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:26,440 Speaker 4: finishes like that, they're not always eager to, you know, 643 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:29,480 Speaker 4: go right back in and you know, book another one 644 00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:34,080 Speaker 4: kind of a deal. So so yeah, I mean I imagine, 645 00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:37,960 Speaker 4: you know, I imagine he's going to start wrestling now. 646 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:39,280 Speaker 3: I don't know what the hang up would be. 647 00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:42,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's you know, we were talking about the 648 00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:43,760 Speaker 2: other day and I was text and I was like, 649 00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:46,520 Speaker 2: you know, whoever they have a storyline with him, if 650 00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:50,280 Speaker 2: he would have lost the match Friday night, they would 651 00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:52,200 Speaker 2: have put that in the storyline of whoever was going 652 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:53,720 Speaker 2: to against them, be like, well you couldn't hack it 653 00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:55,760 Speaker 2: at MMA, so and I gotta come here kind of thing. 654 00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:58,280 Speaker 2: And they could probably still use this as part of 655 00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:01,360 Speaker 2: the storyline, the fact that you know he had to 656 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:04,360 Speaker 2: They'll say, well, you need something do in the nuts 657 00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:05,920 Speaker 2: and you couldn't I don't know. 658 00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:07,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, you couldn't beat him clean. 659 00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:10,160 Speaker 4: You had to cheat and all that stuff. 660 00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:12,160 Speaker 2: And that'll be good for the storyline for them. 661 00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:16,160 Speaker 4: Well, and somebody was actually kind of insinuating that he 662 00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:20,759 Speaker 4: did that on purpose to like, you know, kind of 663 00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:24,759 Speaker 4: fuel his heel character. And I was like, man, that 664 00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:26,920 Speaker 4: just seems a little drastic, you know what I mean, 665 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:29,920 Speaker 4: unless a dog is paying him a lot of money 666 00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:31,920 Speaker 4: and he's like, well, I'm done with I'm done with 667 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:37,160 Speaker 4: him and may now. So yeah, the highlights I saw 668 00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:41,920 Speaker 4: I did appear unintentional, but you know, pro wrestlers are crazy. 669 00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:45,439 Speaker 2: Who knows and who knows that It was funny because 670 00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:48,520 Speaker 2: like I was watching some of the comments of people 671 00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:54,680 Speaker 2: talking about I Guess Lax and Sam Megafar and they're like, 672 00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:56,719 Speaker 2: somebody needs to let that wrestler know not to do 673 00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:59,520 Speaker 2: cocaine before he does an interview, and like people were 674 00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:02,359 Speaker 2: just kind of ripping them on Twitter trying to figure 675 00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:03,040 Speaker 2: out who they were. 676 00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:07,480 Speaker 4: Keep it again, it's I keep making jokes. I think 677 00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:09,560 Speaker 4: I told you, but I told one of my buddies, 678 00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:12,160 Speaker 4: Uh what is that? 679 00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:13,640 Speaker 3: See? Thanks? 680 00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:22,319 Speaker 4: Yeah, So I said something. Whoever it was was like, oh, yeah, 681 00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:26,760 Speaker 4: Hagar is gonna have the inner circle at is immament. 682 00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:29,680 Speaker 4: They I was like, well, why why does he need 683 00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:32,879 Speaker 4: five people in his corner? And he's like, well, it's 684 00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:35,040 Speaker 4: for well, no it's not, it's l a X. It's 685 00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:39,000 Speaker 4: too Jericho Sammy and then Sammy's tongue and. 686 00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,040 Speaker 2: Because he can't keep the damn thing in his mouth. 687 00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:44,920 Speaker 4: I mean, they posted that picture of them posing with 688 00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:47,600 Speaker 4: Batista at the match and got his damn tongue out, 689 00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:50,640 Speaker 4: and I don't know, like maybe that's his thing, Like 690 00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:53,560 Speaker 4: maybe that's his you know, like the rocks, people's elbow, 691 00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:58,319 Speaker 4: people's eyebrow or something. But it is really annoying. It 692 00:35:58,400 --> 00:35:59,680 Speaker 4: is very very annoying. 693 00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:08,239 Speaker 2: That's crazy, But yeah, it's that's that's his thing. And yeah, 694 00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:08,640 Speaker 2: do we. 695 00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:12,360 Speaker 4: Even want to mention Crowndeel? I mean I don't want to. 696 00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:13,680 Speaker 4: I don't want to talk about it. 697 00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:20,719 Speaker 2: I mean, it is Halloween, I was, yeah, it's I mean. 698 00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:22,319 Speaker 4: We were trying to find something scary to talk about. 699 00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:24,200 Speaker 4: I mean, that's that's pretty scary. 700 00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:28,680 Speaker 2: I guess I will say this though, and I'm not 701 00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:30,560 Speaker 2: going to talk about Crowndel very much, but I did 702 00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:33,399 Speaker 2: kind of watch a little bit of SmackDown, and I 703 00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:38,120 Speaker 2: like the fact that they're fueling this Brock and Cane thing, 704 00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:42,200 Speaker 2: the fact that Brock like literally beat the ship out 705 00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:47,120 Speaker 2: of Dominic again supposedly, and then like when Brock f 706 00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:51,120 Speaker 2: five Ray Mysterio into that wall, like that just looked brutal, 707 00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:54,800 Speaker 2: and then he f five Kane on Dominic on the table. 708 00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:57,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just. 709 00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:02,759 Speaker 4: Kind of like, I just don't understand why they're doing Like, well, 710 00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:04,440 Speaker 4: I know why they I know why they're doing it. 711 00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:07,640 Speaker 4: And Vince thinks it's gonna, you know, cash in, It's 712 00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:08,800 Speaker 4: gonna be a buzz or whatever. 713 00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:09,600 Speaker 3: It's clearly not. 714 00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:12,640 Speaker 4: I mean, I don't think anyone believes that Kane's gonna 715 00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:14,440 Speaker 4: come in in his very first match, He's gonna beat 716 00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:17,760 Speaker 4: Brock Lesner for the belt. Like, it's just not gonna happen, 717 00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:22,080 Speaker 4: you know. I Mean, they didn't even let Braun beat him, 718 00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:26,200 Speaker 4: and he was arguably at the time the most over 719 00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:30,080 Speaker 4: person on the roster, So why would they let a 720 00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:32,600 Speaker 4: former MMA guy come in just because he has history 721 00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:35,080 Speaker 4: with Brock and his very first match he beats him 722 00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:36,520 Speaker 4: and takes the title. 723 00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:37,720 Speaker 3: I guess just not gonna happen. 724 00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:41,920 Speaker 4: So yeah, you know, unless it's a false finish, you know, 725 00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:45,719 Speaker 4: like you know, Brock starts hitting him with that F 726 00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:47,799 Speaker 4: five's and he does like five or six and the 727 00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:49,840 Speaker 4: ref's like you gotta stop, you gotta stop, and he 728 00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:50,799 Speaker 4: pushes the ref down. 729 00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:51,680 Speaker 3: He does another one. 730 00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:53,799 Speaker 4: He's like, Okay, that's it, no more, and he does 731 00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:55,520 Speaker 4: another one and the ref calls it or something, you know, 732 00:37:55,600 --> 00:38:00,920 Speaker 4: something stupid like that. Paul Hayman doesn't really get the matches, 733 00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:04,600 Speaker 4: so he's not gonna like, you know, hit hit Cane 734 00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:05,760 Speaker 4: in the back and. 735 00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:06,600 Speaker 3: You know whatever. 736 00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:11,520 Speaker 4: So so unless there's just something stupid like that, I mean, 737 00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:15,480 Speaker 4: I imagine they're just gonna let Brock win to kind 738 00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:17,520 Speaker 4: of avenge that loss from ten years ago. 739 00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:22,319 Speaker 3: But whatever, I don't know. 740 00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:24,799 Speaker 2: But part of me kind of hopes that, like the 741 00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:28,359 Speaker 2: wrestling switch flips and they go to MMA and they 742 00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:33,640 Speaker 2: like little legitimately throw punches. But yeah, there's that, And 743 00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:37,399 Speaker 2: then of course I really don't the Tyson Fury brounz 744 00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:39,560 Speaker 2: Stroma match. I just do want to talk about this 745 00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:41,320 Speaker 2: for a quick second, and this will end the show 746 00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:47,120 Speaker 2: on this. I just don't see Braun losing this match, 747 00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:55,239 Speaker 2: because I mean if he loses this match. They have 748 00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:58,200 Speaker 2: literally and we've talked about this numerous times, they have 749 00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:02,440 Speaker 2: pushed hit this guy back. And the fact that you know, 750 00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:05,719 Speaker 2: you bring in a guy who has no wrestling experience 751 00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:09,719 Speaker 2: and you have him lose to bron or you have 752 00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:12,239 Speaker 2: him losing Tyson Fury. I mean that just literally gonna 753 00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:14,160 Speaker 2: set him back. Now here's here's what they could do, 754 00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:17,160 Speaker 2: and I would be okay with this. Is like, you know, 755 00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:21,680 Speaker 2: they they kind of tussle for a little bit and 756 00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:26,680 Speaker 2: then it's like the whole locker room comes out to 757 00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:29,120 Speaker 2: try to break them up because I don't know what happens, 758 00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:32,040 Speaker 2: and then uh, it ends with them just beating up 759 00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:34,160 Speaker 2: everybody in the locker room and then they shake hands 760 00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:36,319 Speaker 2: kind of thing and hold hands at the end of it. 761 00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:40,360 Speaker 2: But who knows. But you can't have Braun lose this match. 762 00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:43,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, well it's it's kind of it was the running joke, 763 00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:46,080 Speaker 4: like you know, growing up, it was always Mike Tyson 764 00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:49,000 Speaker 4: and you'd always you know, he would just you know, 765 00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:52,239 Speaker 4: just plow through all these guys and it's like, yeah, 766 00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:56,400 Speaker 4: the loser got paid two million bucks and I was 767 00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:58,600 Speaker 4: and you know, the joke was always like I mean 768 00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:01,239 Speaker 4: for two million bucks, I'll let like Tyson like me out, 769 00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:04,759 Speaker 4: like holy shit, oh yeah, And so the same kind 770 00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:07,080 Speaker 4: of thing. They're like, hey, Tyson, we're gonna give you 771 00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:10,160 Speaker 4: fifteen million bucks, but you're gonna lose to a fake wrestler. Okay, 772 00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:14,080 Speaker 4: you know what I mean? Like, yeah, so you're gonna 773 00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:16,280 Speaker 4: fly me to Saudi Arabia. You canna pay me fifteen 774 00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:19,560 Speaker 4: million bucks. You're gonna let me be physical, you know, 775 00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:22,960 Speaker 4: get in the ring for eight minutes, and that's it. 776 00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:24,640 Speaker 3: Yep. Done. 777 00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:29,439 Speaker 4: And the funny thing was is that Tyson's manager got 778 00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:31,280 Speaker 4: interviewed and he's like, yeah, he didn't tell me anything 779 00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:34,600 Speaker 4: about this. He's like, they contacted him directly, he made 780 00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:36,440 Speaker 4: this deal. He's like, I have no He's like, I 781 00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:39,759 Speaker 4: have no idea what's going on. So it sounds kind 782 00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:43,479 Speaker 4: of like a backdoor type of thing anyway. But yeah, 783 00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:47,160 Speaker 4: it's just so stupid, you know. And I think the 784 00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:50,480 Speaker 4: only thing is just with him being from I don't 785 00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:53,560 Speaker 4: know if he's from the UK or just somewhere in Europe. Anyways, 786 00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:57,400 Speaker 4: they think that he's like this global star bro. I 787 00:40:57,440 --> 00:40:59,560 Speaker 4: can't even tell you how many times I saw people 788 00:40:59,880 --> 00:41:02,799 Speaker 4: like yeah, I had to google this Tyson Fury guy, Like, yeah, 789 00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:04,880 Speaker 4: I have no like boxing is not what it was 790 00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:06,560 Speaker 4: twenty thirty years ago. 791 00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:07,040 Speaker 3: You know what I mean. 792 00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:11,680 Speaker 4: I mean, it is just dipped so much since the nineties. 793 00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:15,799 Speaker 4: I mean, honestly, I think the last like must see 794 00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:19,680 Speaker 4: event was Holy Filled and Tyson when Tyson bit his 795 00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:20,960 Speaker 4: ear and that was ninety seven. 796 00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:23,799 Speaker 3: That was, you know, twenty two years ago. 797 00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:27,400 Speaker 4: So like, boxing has not been the draw that it 798 00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:30,200 Speaker 4: was for one hundred years before that, you know. And 799 00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:33,840 Speaker 4: so I don't know. I mean again, if they're wasting 800 00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:37,120 Speaker 4: fifteen million bucks on one non wrestler, I can't imagine 801 00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:39,279 Speaker 4: what they're getting paid to put this show on, you 802 00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:39,759 Speaker 4: know what I mean. 803 00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:43,200 Speaker 2: It's just it's just ridiculous. And then of course your 804 00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:46,040 Speaker 2: your main event of Team Flavors Steam Huggan, But let's 805 00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:47,000 Speaker 2: just not talk about that. 806 00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:48,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, in the show. 807 00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:51,440 Speaker 4: If you happen to be off on Halloween and you 808 00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:54,359 Speaker 4: literally have nothing else to do, that I guess you 809 00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:58,720 Speaker 4: can watch the Crown Jewel thing, how about that? Yeah, 810 00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:01,880 Speaker 4: that's about as bad as good of an endorsement as 811 00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:02,399 Speaker 4: we can give. 812 00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:02,719 Speaker 5: That. 813 00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:07,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, so just watch that. We should have a guest 814 00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:11,399 Speaker 2: lined up for this week we'll talk about we'll talk 815 00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:15,120 Speaker 2: about that later on Friday. And somebody who, well the 816 00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:17,960 Speaker 2: guest is coming on as a part of a wrestling 817 00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:22,680 Speaker 2: organization in Clarksville. They just announced their showcase show that 818 00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:25,840 Speaker 2: they're doing with some of the guys that just graduated 819 00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:27,919 Speaker 2: from the academy. Tried and True is doing a big 820 00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:33,160 Speaker 2: show in Clarksville, game to showcase the talent that they 821 00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:35,600 Speaker 2: have from the wrestling school, which and I'm looking at 822 00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:37,359 Speaker 2: it and it looks like it's gonna be a really 823 00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:40,680 Speaker 2: fun event, which we'll post about that. You could check 824 00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:43,080 Speaker 2: that out. But if everything goes according to plan, I'm 825 00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:45,520 Speaker 2: just gonna go ahead and say it because it's a 826 00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:47,440 Speaker 2: good dude. Jacks is going to be on here is 827 00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:51,080 Speaker 2: part of the workings with Crimson. They are the Tried 828 00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:53,239 Speaker 2: and True Tag Team Champions and he's gonna come on 829 00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:54,839 Speaker 2: the show this week. We're going to talk about his 830 00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:57,640 Speaker 2: career and yeah, so. 831 00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:00,879 Speaker 4: Yeah, it'll be good to chat he He is a 832 00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:06,920 Speaker 4: former NWA World Tag Team Champion and obviously since NWA's 833 00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:09,600 Speaker 4: back and fire and all cylinders, it'll be it'll be 834 00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:13,319 Speaker 4: good to pick his brain about holding those titles. And 835 00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:17,759 Speaker 4: then also the current state of NWA, his thoughts on 836 00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:19,000 Speaker 4: that and all that good stuff. 837 00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:22,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, and make sure you check out past episodes. Lance 838 00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:24,719 Speaker 2: Archer was our guest this past Friday, which was a 839 00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:27,840 Speaker 2: really good show. We talked about his time in WWE 840 00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:33,040 Speaker 2: and TNA and what it means to hold the United 841 00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:36,920 Speaker 2: States Champion for New Japan and really great interviews. Definitely 842 00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:39,239 Speaker 2: checked it out. But that's that's it. So do we 843 00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:41,359 Speaker 2: just I don't want to say happy trails. We say 844 00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:42,160 Speaker 2: happy Halloween. 845 00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:44,360 Speaker 4: I think happy Halloween's appropriate. 846 00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:48,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, there it is, Happy Halloween. And you guys have 847 00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:50,359 Speaker 2: a great weekend. Make sure you follow us on all 848 00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:53,839 Speaker 2: social media, which we'll let our lady tell you where 849 00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:55,239 Speaker 2: everything is. So that's it. 850 00:43:55,400 --> 00:44:00,719 Speaker 3: Talk toulatter, right, yep, later, all right, see you. We 851 00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:02,879 Speaker 3: hope you enjoyed this week's episode of Battleground. 852 00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:05,520 Speaker 2: Make sure you give it five stars and leave a 853 00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:06,160 Speaker 2: nice review. 854 00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:08,719 Speaker 3: If you want to stay up to date, follow them 855 00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:20,600 Speaker 3: at Battleground Podcast on Instagram.