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Speaker 1: official Dallas Cowboys out now Here are Bill Jones, Everson Walls,
Speaker 1: and Nicky Spagnola. And here we are. It's another edition
Speaker 1: of mix Shots inside the SWBC podcast studio. Here at
Speaker 1: the Star in Frisco, there are football players on a
Speaker 1: football field nearby. Coaches out. There's a rumor. It's only
Speaker 1: a rumor tobout that. Yeah, here it is. It's May twelfth,
Speaker 1: and we are now officially less than four months away
Speaker 1: from the first Sunday of the National Football League season.
Speaker 1: Tonight we find out officially who the Dallas Cowboys will
Speaker 1: be playing, not only in that season opener, but also
Speaker 1: the entire seventeen game regular season. I assume the three
Speaker 1: preseason games as well. Maybe not preseason Oh maybe not okay, sorry,
Speaker 1: season games. I'm pulling guys, especially undrafted free agent Usually
Speaker 1: those come out a little bit later when they kind
Speaker 1: of arrange training camp and everything. But yeah, now we
Speaker 1: can tonight seven o'clock, we can plan the rest of
Speaker 1: our lives for this year, or you can go on
Speaker 1: Twitter right now and see what the schedule leaks that
Speaker 1: are out there and and try to determine whether this
Speaker 1: is true or not. Well, the NFL's kind of loosely
Speaker 1: sending out stuff to keep everybody interested as kind of
Speaker 1: a ramp up to so we do know when Mike
Speaker 1: McCarthy is headed head back to bayin Bay. November thirteenth,
Speaker 1: three we five PM had lambeau Field and I wrote,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a crap show, I wrote today, I
Speaker 1: wrote today. You think when he last he said I
Speaker 1: shall return. Yeah, I mean, couldn't you imagine the memes
Speaker 1: that are gonna be out there for him coming back
Speaker 1: looking like he's Mike McCarthy. Way, yeah, Napoleon coming back
Speaker 1: to town. George Washington crossing over. Where is the lake
Speaker 1: out there? What is what is the lake Lambo? Lake Lambo?
Speaker 1: Is that now? It's lake area like Michigan. Oh man,
Speaker 1: he'd be like Green Bay borders one of the great lakes.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's right. It's Lake Lambo's close.
Speaker 1: There you go, all right, I mean there's a bay
Speaker 1: there because it's Green Bay. There, you go there, you go.
Speaker 1: I've had my feet in that bay before, believe it
Speaker 1: or not, because I did a parade up there or something.
Speaker 1: A parade. Yes, we were in a parade, me and
Speaker 1: a bunch of other old veterans. This was twenty years ago,
Speaker 1: so I was still in old former veteran and a
Speaker 1: former player, and we went to some parade and we
Speaker 1: were I don't know where this town was, but the
Speaker 1: water was so clear. I don't know what what town
Speaker 1: it was around Green Bay. And we had a little
Speaker 1: parade and we were in the sports bus signing all
Speaker 1: the graphs, and when we had a break, they had
Speaker 1: a little doc there. I put my feet in the
Speaker 1: water and it looked like I was in Jamaica. It
Speaker 1: was that clear. It was not in Lake Michigan. I
Speaker 1: don't know where it was. Someone told me where it
Speaker 1: was before. I forgot that twenty years after that. So
Speaker 1: now it's it's got some really nice if you go
Speaker 1: up there to the it's a beautiful it's beautiful up
Speaker 1: in there and the Michigan area to have a spot
Speaker 1: there where people can sunbathe and actually swim in the water.
Speaker 1: One of my best friends I grew up with his
Speaker 1: parents had a cottage north of Green Bay. It was one.
Speaker 1: It was on a river, and it was just gorgeous. Yes,
Speaker 1: except the time I wasn't dreaming, except the time we
Speaker 1: went up there to go skiing in the Upper Peninsula
Speaker 1: of Michigan. And uh we woke up that morning and
Speaker 1: it was forty below not wind chill, forty below right,
Speaker 1: and we were like, no, we can't do this. So
Speaker 1: we were going to leave and head back south and
Speaker 1: find a different place. We couldn't get the car started
Speaker 1: because the oil was too thick. Come on, that's too much. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's too much. So that's thanks. That's Green Bay. And
Speaker 1: then went off southwest. Right, Bill, that's exactly right. Okay,
Speaker 1: all right, Well let's go and enough story time in
Speaker 1: Green Bay. We can save that for a week ten
Speaker 1: of the season. I was going to ask him if
Speaker 1: he ever played a memorable game in Green Bay. I
Speaker 1: played walking, but it was not. Nothing memorable was eighty four?
Speaker 1: We were horrible. They were horrible. Okay, But you played
Speaker 1: in Milwaukee, Uh, No, eighty nine, Maybe it was ninety
Speaker 1: And definitely in ninety nine, Cowboys played in Milwaukee at
Speaker 1: County Stadium, where the side teams were on the same sideline, yeah,
Speaker 1: eighty nine, because you would remember Milwaukee because the benches
Speaker 1: were all on the same side. It was like the
Speaker 1: old Minnesota Stadium, right Baseball Park. So all right, So
Speaker 1: you know, one of the interesting things when you look
Speaker 1: at the schedule leaks, which some of these I think
Speaker 1: are probably right on um. For instance, the it's reported
Speaker 1: out there that Cincinnati might be coming here on Thanksgiving
Speaker 1: and that Tampa might be in the month of November.
Speaker 1: In Green Bay. It's already out there. It's in November.
Speaker 1: The d I was thinking, you know, it seems like
Speaker 1: every year the month of November. And it's not just
Speaker 1: because the Cowboys have the Thursday game in November, where
Speaker 1: you're have a packed in schedule where you're going to
Speaker 1: play three games in however many days and that sort
Speaker 1: of thing, but it's it always seems like the schedule
Speaker 1: is a little tougher in that stretch of the season.
Speaker 1: It is. And you know why that is because they
Speaker 1: compress the games. No, it is not because I'm not
Speaker 1: talking about because of the calendar. I'm talking about the opposition.
Speaker 1: The reason is November is a ratings month for the
Speaker 1: TV and TV ratings month for the TV networks, and
Speaker 1: when you see the networks, they're picking, Okay, I want
Speaker 1: that game for sure, and they're gonna put that game
Speaker 1: for sure in November when the it's a key TV
Speaker 1: ratings month. And so the Cowboys being America's team, they
Speaker 1: get they're one of the top picks obviously for the
Speaker 1: TV networks. And so you're going to have more often
Speaker 1: than not, the Cowboys having a tougher opposition, a tougher
Speaker 1: schedule opposition wise in November then other months, so the
Speaker 1: season are like last year when it was Kansas City
Speaker 1: on Sunday, Vegas on Thanksgiving, New Orleans the following usually
Speaker 1: you got pills the Philadelphia game or early in November
Speaker 1: also when and so so anyway, when I see these
Speaker 1: schedule leaks and I'm seeing, okay, it looks like Green, well,
Speaker 1: for sure, we know we know that the Green. And
Speaker 1: then if if Tampa Bay in Cincinnati or in the
Speaker 1: month of November, well that's the reason why, because TV
Speaker 1: networks want those matchups in that month. Yeah, somebody say,
Speaker 1: how how does this stuff get out? I said, the
Speaker 1: US Supreme Court can't keep us secret. Do you think
Speaker 1: the NFL can? Goodness, but this kind of You know,
Speaker 1: it doesn't explain it because we can see it happening.
Speaker 1: Cowboys always start off fast, I mean in the not
Speaker 1: so good years, and we end up kind of starting
Speaker 1: a bit towards the end of the season. That's not
Speaker 1: just because the competition is good, but it's the scheduling
Speaker 1: as well. So you have to put all that together
Speaker 1: and we have to be ready for that as a team.
Speaker 1: We have to practice in that manner. We have to
Speaker 1: plan in that manner. Our game plan has to be
Speaker 1: called in that manner. I think that's why we're holding
Speaker 1: back on our best plays, you know, waiting. You know,
Speaker 1: we're gonna wait till we have to play these important games,
Speaker 1: wait till the playoffs. We're gonna save all these goods.
Speaker 1: Get the other steps. Yeah, we didn't do that. I mean,
Speaker 1: well it never came out. So this year when it
Speaker 1: comes to and we already knew this, right because we
Speaker 1: know who opponent's plan, right, the Cowboys and Washington are
Speaker 1: tied for the weakest strength of schedule this year. Weakest
Speaker 1: the teams their plan have a four sixty two winning percentage.
Speaker 1: And tell me who the third weakest. In the fourth
Speaker 1: weeks started the Giants and the Eagles. Now, why do
Speaker 1: you think this is? Because they play each other and
Speaker 1: their records were so bad and I saw that as
Speaker 1: you go out though, Well no, no, that's my point.
Speaker 1: So it's offset by they have to play five games
Speaker 1: against seven of the other division winners, right, so it
Speaker 1: doesn't got to play both teams from the Super Bowl. Um,
Speaker 1: you got to play the Super Bowl champions and so yeah,
Speaker 1: and I figured out eight games against teams that were
Speaker 1: had winning records, eight games too, you know Philadelphia barely right,
Speaker 1: nine and eight. And then they play three of the
Speaker 1: top five teams that had winning records in I mean,
Speaker 1: the best records in the league. But the other problem
Speaker 1: is they also have to play four of the five
Speaker 1: worst teams in the league. Because of the schedule. They
Speaker 1: got to play Detroit three, thirteen and one. They played
Speaker 1: two games against the Giants four and thirteen. They play
Speaker 1: Houston four and thirteen and Jacksonville three. We play Houston,
Speaker 1: Jacksonville and Detroit. Yes, we got the NFC North and
Speaker 1: the AFC South, right, and so by the rotation, just
Speaker 1: because they've got to play the corresponding teams that finished
Speaker 1: first in the divisions, that they're not playing Green Bay
Speaker 1: in the Rams. It didn't equal. It didn't be Tampa
Speaker 1: Bay in the RAM. I mean Tampa Bay. Yeah, it's like,
Speaker 1: oh so it's it's not as easy as it looks.
Speaker 1: And then the crossover. The seventeenth game is against Cincinnati, right,
Speaker 1: so and they were only ten and seven. Yeah, all right.
Speaker 1: And just as a matter of review, just as we
Speaker 1: lead up, this is our pregame show for the sketch
Speaker 1: place the opponents that we know in the home and
Speaker 1: away the away outside of the NFC East teams, the
Speaker 1: away games for the Cowboys are at Tennessee, at Jacksonville,
Speaker 1: at the Rams, at Minnesota, and at Green Bay. So
Speaker 1: those are your five road games. Think about that. At Tennessee,
Speaker 1: at Jacksonville, at the Rams, at the Vikings, at the Packers.
Speaker 1: What do you hope to go? I mean there's only
Speaker 1: one that you say, well, okay, Jacksonville, right, and that
Speaker 1: sounds like it might be the opener. Um, Jacksonville is
Speaker 1: the open and you want to get off to a
Speaker 1: good start in Jacksonville. I'm not saying it is. I'm
Speaker 1: just saying, hey, man, let's take a road trip for
Speaker 1: that one. Just the three of us man. We go
Speaker 1: there and we just take our shirts off and you
Speaker 1: want to drive, you want to drive, kind of be
Speaker 1: up there and see will be no one up there
Speaker 1: in the top tier of the stands. We opened at
Speaker 1: Tampa last year, whynot at Jacksonville this year? Go back
Speaker 1: to Florida. UM home games, Okay, So, but playing at Tennessee,
Speaker 1: at the Rams, at the Packers, and at Minnesota. We'll see,
Speaker 1: which is never easy for the Cowboys. So you hope
Speaker 1: three and two out of that. Yeah, you'd pay for that. Okay.
Speaker 1: Home games, Okay, home games Tampa Bay, Detroit, Chicago, Houston, Cincinnati, Indianapolis.
Speaker 1: You probably would have liked that reversed, right, Go to
Speaker 1: those Go to those teams because you know, although I
Speaker 1: don't know about home field advantage anymore, I'm running through
Speaker 1: them again. You got Indianapolis in Houston, you got Cincinnati,
Speaker 1: you got Tampa Bay, Detroit, and Chicago. I think the
Speaker 1: Colts game is gonna be a tough game taking place.
Speaker 1: The Colts game is gonna be a tough game. Yeah.
Speaker 1: A lot of people think the Colts now with Matt
Speaker 1: Ryan at quarterback there, that the Colts are a sleeper
Speaker 1: team this year. Well with their running game. They make
Speaker 1: a lot of noise when they were talking about their
Speaker 1: running game. So we'll see, we'll see. So what is
Speaker 1: what's when you? Okay, what are you looking for when
Speaker 1: the schedule comes out? I first look for what's happening
Speaker 1: on Christmas Eve and Christmas Day? And we kind of
Speaker 1: know Christmas Day games, we don't have to worry about that.
Speaker 1: But Christmas Eve, you want a home game against Philadelphia?
Speaker 1: That would be fine, Okay, care of who it is. Okay,
Speaker 1: you want to you want a noon game, Um, that
Speaker 1: would be even better. I think you're gonna get a
Speaker 1: three twenty five, probably that for your own comfort. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: he asked me what I was looking Look, I'm thinking
Speaker 1: you're thinking for the Cowboys interest of this team. They
Speaker 1: paid the check is shot? That was gonna say, I mean,
Speaker 1: and then I look at what's that on your check?
Speaker 1: Then I look at I look at what's at Thanksgiving,
Speaker 1: and what's immediately before and immediately and then here in
Speaker 1: recent years, immediately after has been another Thursday Thursday night game,
Speaker 1: and that probably will happen again because they have probably
Speaker 1: want them on Amazon Prime. You would think, now, ok yeah,
Speaker 1: because it's you actually would want that because otherwise, if
Speaker 1: you if they're going to be on Amazon Prime at
Speaker 1: another juncture during the season, it's going to screw up
Speaker 1: another week because it makes a short week. Yeah, that
Speaker 1: means you got too short unless you had that scheduled
Speaker 1: after the bye. But the problem is you don't get
Speaker 1: a break after your short week. You got to play
Speaker 1: again before or you get the buy. And then I
Speaker 1: look for if there's any uh, like three consecutive road
Speaker 1: games and where because if you got to go coast
Speaker 1: to coast a couple and that's happened before. So those
Speaker 1: are the things that you normally first looked. Well, I'm
Speaker 1: starting to look at things differently because now I don't
Speaker 1: know if you've heard the promos, but you know the
Speaker 1: Star Tours. Well that's right, that's right. Good about that?
Speaker 1: Well we did it. We did it on Christmas Day
Speaker 1: last year. See, I look at Christmas Day kind of
Speaker 1: ends at noon. Basically Christmas Eve is different to me
Speaker 1: anyway from a traditional stand I remember when they played
Speaker 1: away games on Christmas Day, both times in in Phoenix
Speaker 1: in Arizona, and it's like I am not waking up
Speaker 1: a hotel room Christmas morning, right, so I flew on
Speaker 1: my own, uh Christmas Day because they were night night
Speaker 1: games in Arizona, and with the time difference, you could
Speaker 1: leave at three, you get there at three, and I
Speaker 1: took the red eye back. I only missed one meal.
Speaker 1: Let me tell you how big high school football is
Speaker 1: here in Texas. For those of you who don't live
Speaker 1: in Texas, this is how big high school football is
Speaker 1: here during the pandemic year twenty twenty. Normally, the high
Speaker 1: school football season ends the weekend before Christmas. It's a
Speaker 1: sixth if you go all the way to's ridiculous way,
Speaker 1: which ulous it's a you know, they can't figure out
Speaker 1: how and these these poor college kids you can't have.
Speaker 1: You can't have playoffs, you can't play that many games.
Speaker 1: But in Texas high school, if you win the state,
Speaker 1: if you play in a state championship game, you're playing
Speaker 1: a sixteen game schedule and that doesn't count the two scrimmages.
Speaker 1: You head back at August, try to go to school.
Speaker 1: But during the pandemic, okay, the schedule got all pushed
Speaker 1: back and so the actually the state championship games were
Speaker 1: played in January, so it came down to Christmas weekend
Speaker 1: in Christmas. I guess fell on a Friday that year,
Speaker 1: two years ago, And they actually played high school football
Speaker 1: playoff games at eight o'clock on Christmas Eve night here
Speaker 1: at over in All, and everyone was in their houses
Speaker 1: watching the game, or they were at they were at
Speaker 1: the stadium, right. Yeah, that's how big high school football
Speaker 1: is here. So so any complaints mickey about Cowboys playing
Speaker 1: at three twenty five on Christmas Eve, you don't want
Speaker 1: to hear about it. Yeah, And by the way, there's
Speaker 1: a difference, you know, you Caucajun people, you know, y'all,
Speaker 1: y'all have done at noon. We drag ours out Christmas Day.
Speaker 1: I go home like two in the morning to twenty six.
Speaker 1: That's how we do it. That's the way you ought
Speaker 1: to do it. Yeah, what it should be done. Well,
Speaker 1: I can't wait to see it. By the way, So
Speaker 1: this is one other the big days of the year
Speaker 1: for you. One other, one other, Yes, it is one other. Note.
Speaker 1: Teams with the hardest schedules like that had the hardest
Speaker 1: schedule from twenty sixteen. On twenty sixteen, the forty nine
Speaker 1: ers and the Falcons tied for the worst record the
Speaker 1: year before forty nine Ers. No, I'm sorry, Yeah, they
Speaker 1: had the hardest schedules the year before, forty nine Ers.
Speaker 1: The next year in twenty sixteen, went two and fourteen.
Speaker 1: Falcons ended up losing the Super Bowl. In twenty seventeen,
Speaker 1: the Broncos went five and eleven. In twenty eighteen, the
Speaker 1: Packers went sixty nine and one. In twenty nineteen, the
Speaker 1: Raiders went seven and nine, the Patriots in twenty twenty
Speaker 1: went seven and nine, and then in twenty twenty one,
Speaker 1: the Steelers lost the wild card game to Candas. So
Speaker 1: those the teams that had the best record, the hardest,
Speaker 1: hardest schedules get coming into that season, right, They were gaps,
Speaker 1: which doesn't relate it all to the Cowboys this year.
Speaker 1: So tell us tell us the one with the easiest,
Speaker 1: because the Cowboys supposedly have the easiest schedule. So check
Speaker 1: this out. Twenty sixteen Packers ten and six lost the NFC.
Speaker 1: Up you go. Twenty seventeen Colts went four and twelve,
Speaker 1: so they must have been really bad. Twenty eighteen, the
Speaker 1: Texans went eleven and five and lost the wild card.
Speaker 1: Kay works twenty nineteen and Washington went three and thirteen
Speaker 1: and missed the playoffs, and they weren't and they weren't
Speaker 1: that good in twenty eighteen, by the way, so uh
Speaker 1: where am I at? Twenty twenty the Ravens win eleven
Speaker 1: and five, and and in twenty twenty one the Eagles
Speaker 1: went nine to eight. So the majority of the teams
Speaker 1: that had the easiest schedule ended up, especially in even
Speaker 1: number of years like this year, playoff games and even
Speaker 1: number Yeah, I didn't think about there. But the problem
Speaker 1: with that for the Cowboys is Washington also has the
Speaker 1: easiest schedule, so that could apply to Washington. Maybe they'll tie, right,
Speaker 1: all right, that's a little preview of the NFL schedule.
Speaker 1: We got something else to preview when we come back
Speaker 1: here on mix shots, because how many preview there are
Speaker 1: rookies in the house as of today here at the
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Speaker 1: very good? Did I not get post out? Very well?
Speaker 1: It was. You came out of the blocks a little
Speaker 1: shaky there, but yeah, you made up for it there.
Speaker 1: Little sprinted to the finish kicked in gear little potentially
Speaker 1: those last twenty yards. All right, us, I guess what's
Speaker 1: going through the minds of the rookies that are headed
Speaker 1: to the Star in Frisco today, Everson? As a rookie,
Speaker 1: You're you're arriving on campus for the first time at
Speaker 1: an NFL training site. What's going through your mind as
Speaker 1: a rookie? I was. I was pissed, first of all,
Speaker 1: because you weren't drafting. Yes, I'm very upset. Driving up there,
Speaker 1: I was very upset. Of course, I came from my
Speaker 1: mom's house, so I just had to drive up the
Speaker 1: street in my little Mustage seventy two. By the way,
Speaker 1: you didn't have to ride You didn't ride your bike. No,
Speaker 1: that would have center back holding up center block holding
Speaker 1: up the back of my front seat. So as I'm
Speaker 1: driving up there, I'm thinking to myself, I got to
Speaker 1: see what these guys look like. I just want to
Speaker 1: see my fellow dbs and see what they look like. Man,
Speaker 1: I was so upset. I was so upset. So the
Speaker 1: first drill and this was good back Forrest Lane. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: we weren't even in the Valley ranch yet. No, nor
Speaker 1: how many had drive round the street those two miles,
Speaker 1: how many many? How many undrafted rookies were at that
Speaker 1: new think if you had to ask, we had twenty
Speaker 1: five rookie dbs, So I would imagine twenty five just
Speaker 1: a DBS. Yes, yes, so I'd imagine you had twenty undrafted.
Speaker 1: Vince Skillings was drafting the third round. Uh, I can't
Speaker 1: even I think it may have been twenty three of
Speaker 1: us were undrafted. I mean but at that time they
Speaker 1: didn't have any any cornerbacks, you know how that was well, no,
Speaker 1: you weren't really hit bill, No, but but they had
Speaker 1: drafted something they didn't really pan up. The first draft
Speaker 1: choice was a third round and that was Vince Skillings
Speaker 1: from Ohio State, the first corner cornerback. Yeah, but he
Speaker 1: was the first draft pick for the Cowboys. They didn't
Speaker 1: have a first and second round pick. No, I thought
Speaker 1: Howard Richards was I'm sorry, I'm thinking the first defense
Speaker 1: yeah yeah, yeah, and Vince Skillings was the first one.
Speaker 1: He was sixth round? Was he six or sixth round? Yea?
Speaker 1: So wait wait, that was the first defensive back. Vince
Speaker 1: Skillings dB Ohio State, sixth round So yeah, Vin Fellows
Speaker 1: and Ken Miller. Ron Fellows was seventh round A and
Speaker 1: B and Ken Miller. So Vince Skillings did not make
Speaker 1: the team. Fellows obviously did make the team. Ken Miller
Speaker 1: did not make the team. He was out of Eastern
Speaker 1: Michigan and that was it as far as dbs he had.
Speaker 1: So he had three dbs drafted in that draft. Did
Speaker 1: they tell us they listed Fellows as a dB, Yes,
Speaker 1: they did, because he was a wide receiver at Missouri. No,
Speaker 1: he came in straight up dB. He did not do
Speaker 1: run one pass pattern running backwards. He got there. So yeah,
Speaker 1: three draft picks dbs and it could be there. They
Speaker 1: were all corners, yes, okay. And then there were so
Speaker 1: there were twenty two others undrafted, Yes, that including Michael
Speaker 1: Downs there you go, who also was a could have
Speaker 1: rode his bike so practice the cotton, yeah, but no,
Speaker 1: not not to the North Side Park. Okay. So if
Speaker 1: you if you included all the other positions they brought in,
Speaker 1: like fifty undrafted free agents, it was a hundred and
Speaker 1: twenty five rookies in camp a training camp or camp
Speaker 1: in the spring right after rookie we had a hundred
Speaker 1: and twenty five rookies. I don't know what made it
Speaker 1: to camp once upon a time. You know, they used
Speaker 1: to have the rookies out two thousand Oaks around July fourth.
Speaker 1: We came early, yeah, two weeks early. Basically beat up
Speaker 1: on each other before the veteran Yeah. So when we
Speaker 1: came to the rookie camp though, that was still it
Speaker 1: was at val Forest Lane first. You know, Tony Hill
Speaker 1: was the only veteran that showed up, and he was
Speaker 1: just trying to get loose, you know. I just wanted
Speaker 1: to kind of get loose, you know, because he had
Speaker 1: the weight problem. He always had a problem with his
Speaker 1: waight in the off season. So when I see Tony
Speaker 1: Hill there, I get fired up. Man, my hair start
Speaker 1: stand up, like man, let me you know, I'm still
Speaker 1: I'm alway pissed off. I gotta come up here and
Speaker 1: deal with this free agency crap. I just got eleven
Speaker 1: in the section. So now I got up here and
Speaker 1: showed some more stuff. So I jump up here on
Speaker 1: Tony Hill, and boy, that's when we first got to
Speaker 1: know each other. He shook me down real good. He
Speaker 1: shook me down real good because I lined up on him.
Speaker 1: He's like, nah, man, I just want to get some
Speaker 1: some work. I'm like, nah, man, you, Tony Hill, you're
Speaker 1: the best. I want to be the best. He's like rookie.
Speaker 1: He didn't even know of course, Like I want to
Speaker 1: be the best. He's like, no, man, you need to
Speaker 1: back up. Like nah, man, I was on him right,
Speaker 1: but he shook me down. I was broke my ankle.
Speaker 1: So a most twenty five dbs. Okay, that we're in
Speaker 1: that rookie camp, who would you say had the a
Speaker 1: personality in the room. No, No, it was not me. No,
Speaker 1: I wasn't there yet. I wasn't there. Yea, all my
Speaker 1: anger was inside Okay, Yeah, as I got older, I
Speaker 1: let it outa My anger was getting down off in here.
Speaker 1: That's why. Well, I mean, but got into it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're getting into it with Tony Hill. Yeah, I'm thinking
Speaker 1: when when you one guy in that room who knew
Speaker 1: he was gonna make this team, Vince Killings. Really yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: he was wrong. I was wrong. So yeah, so you
Speaker 1: didn't know you were gonna make the team. You were
Speaker 1: just bound in determining your well, I was bound and
Speaker 1: determined about who we knew was gonna make the team
Speaker 1: right away. First drill Michael Downs. I mean when he
Speaker 1: lined up it's like this guy's from Rice University. I
Speaker 1: mean his arms were like this long. He was lining
Speaker 1: up wide receivers. When you get a guy jamming, you
Speaker 1: were arms this long. The receivers were like they were
Speaker 1: whipped before the ball was snapped. And he was the
Speaker 1: guy you could tell the guy every time. All right.
Speaker 1: So there was a wide receiver taken in the second
Speaker 1: round of that draft, Doug Donald. Doug Donald, dude. So
Speaker 1: when you lined up against Doug Donald, I wanted to
Speaker 1: tear him up. No a matter of fact, we went
Speaker 1: at it all off season. Uh. It was actually illustrated.
Speaker 1: Uh and one article about me and Doug and the
Speaker 1: struggles that we had, and they they they had an
Speaker 1: article just a little depiction about how our one matchup
Speaker 1: went on that particular day and it was very content,
Speaker 1: hot and contested. It was just a curve out. But
Speaker 1: I mean he and I were going at it like
Speaker 1: like that was the only bone in the yard. We
Speaker 1: were a couple of pit bulls or something. TI we
Speaker 1: know that when it called dougla Doug my dude. Man,
Speaker 1: that was my dude. So how many was it twelve
Speaker 1: rounds that year? Twelve rounds? Okay, they had seventeen was
Speaker 1: back rookies. So did when they signed you, like did Gil?
Speaker 1: I don't know who signed you. I think it was Jeff.
Speaker 1: I think came out okay because a lot of times
Speaker 1: Gil would go tell the guy, yeah, you're you're our
Speaker 1: top guy at that position, top the guild on the phone,
Speaker 1: and they would tell you you were to get top
Speaker 1: guy at the position then that they'd bring in twenty
Speaker 1: more at the same Now, now that's what they told
Speaker 1: my strong safety of Grambling. His name was Robert Salter,
Speaker 1: and Robert Salter got here and he saw all those rookies.
Speaker 1: He shut it down. No, he shut it down. He
Speaker 1: did not participate in any drill. So that's how disheartened
Speaker 1: it was. You know, you can tell somebody something, they
Speaker 1: believe you, they trust you, right, So this guy's trusting
Speaker 1: Gil bred that he told him the truth. And I
Speaker 1: don't know why we call them honeybad. I don't know
Speaker 1: why honeyball I thought that. But once he came too camp,
Speaker 1: he never participated in one drill. You you're like, you
Speaker 1: do your drill, you go to the back of the
Speaker 1: line and you're like, hey, man, go ahead. He's like, nah, man,
Speaker 1: you go ahead. He told everybody to go ahead. He
Speaker 1: never participated in one drill. Drew. Drew told me when
Speaker 1: they signed him, uh, that they were he was the
Speaker 1: top wide receiver they were signing. Then he got here
Speaker 1: and there were twenty twenty five more wide receivers. The
Speaker 1: only time I talked with Gil, I got fifteen hundred
Speaker 1: dollars signing balls. I tried to get on the phone
Speaker 1: to give him up into two thousand. That was it.
Speaker 1: Then he's like, nah, did you got what you got?
Speaker 1: That was it. That was my only conversation that I
Speaker 1: had with Gil over the phone at glamblet So. In
Speaker 1: that nineteen eighty one draft, there were fourteen draft picks
Speaker 1: and only six of the draft picks made the team.
Speaker 1: Six out of the point. It was his fault. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Michael down Man, Michael, Mike mess it up, scraddling and
Speaker 1: how man interceptions. You have your rookie year from where
Speaker 1: they were in the postseason, post season through the postseason
Speaker 1: sixty it was thirteen. I always want to count the preseason.
Speaker 1: Two preseason games are extremely important for rookies. Yeah, day
Speaker 1: I mean and undrafted. I mean, when these guys are
Speaker 1: done with their little deal. They come out for one series,
Speaker 1: and man, it was intense the fourth quarter. No one's
Speaker 1: watching but the guys that need it. It's extremely intense.
Speaker 1: I can't get beat. I gotta do everything right, you know,
Speaker 1: because Gene Stalin is waiting over there with the dog
Speaker 1: OneD hatchet way to cut and so thirteen picks regular
Speaker 1: season and postseason for the undrafted rookie in nineteen eighty one.
Speaker 1: So he obviously convinced this organization that that cornerback position
Speaker 1: was no longer a need, right, No, nineteen eighty two
Speaker 1: first round draft pick Rod Hill cornerback. Why were they
Speaker 1: so thirsty for see? They thought I made it look easy, Stags,
Speaker 1: so we just get it look easy. It must be easy. Ever,
Speaker 1: so Wallas could do it. He just came from Gramley.
Speaker 1: Where is that gambling? I don't even know where that is.
Speaker 1: They took another quarterback in the fourth round, somebody named
Speaker 1: Brian Carpenter out of Michigan. That he didn't the next year,
Speaker 1: he didn't even know. He didn't make the team either.
Speaker 1: So you just think about they for some reason. I
Speaker 1: don't think Gill believed in what he was doing. You
Speaker 1: didn't believe himself. You keep you keep trying to make
Speaker 1: up for the two free ages that you signed. We're
Speaker 1: up are setting the dog on League on five. Mike's
Speaker 1: got seven picks in nineteen eighty one, ain't got I
Speaker 1: don't know how many tackles over one hundred plus. Look
Speaker 1: who they played in the preseason. Yeah, green Bay was first,
Speaker 1: was it really? Yeah? Home game, We're gonna check him.
Speaker 1: We're gonna check him. So home game, Yeah, home game, yep,
Speaker 1: green Bay. That's why Mike, Mike blotted the punk, I
Speaker 1: got the touchdown. This stuff, man, I don't forget this stuff.
Speaker 1: This is very calculating. I mean we first road game first,
Speaker 1: all game had to be in LA. It was yeah,
Speaker 1: that's right. Yeah, and then Pittsburgh and Houston, Pittsburgh and Houston.
Speaker 1: There you go, and that's a trip down memory games.
Speaker 1: All right? Present day rookies. Uh, you know we just
Speaker 1: saw something there from the NFL network. They're talking about this, Uh,
Speaker 1: the New York Giants draft Cavon Thibodeau and Evan Neil
Speaker 1: draft picks. Go ahead, all right, and what do you say, Mickey?
Speaker 1: I said, I don't trust guys. It's from Oregon, especially
Speaker 1: defensive guys. All right, So unless their name mel, unless
Speaker 1: their name mel. Okay, all right, So so you're not
Speaker 1: convinced Cavon Thibodeau is gonna make it. Well, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I've never seen him play, or if I have, I
Speaker 1: didn't know it was him talk a lot. All right,
Speaker 1: but you're you're not sold on Oregon players, right? All right?
Speaker 1: Go ahead? No, okay, I can't, I can't. I justin Herbert.
Speaker 1: Herbert was pretty darn good, are you? And and you
Speaker 1: had a question about quarterbacks dot or cornerback, quarter quarterback,
Speaker 1: signal callers. There was somebody else, yeah, Marcus Mariota. Yeah,
Speaker 1: every Okay, there's the other quarterback there. All right, let's
Speaker 1: see other Oregon players. What uh penasul first round pick
Speaker 1: last year the Lions. Okay, they like him. Uh, where's
Speaker 1: some other DeForest Buckner? There's one for you. Okay. He
Speaker 1: was good, still is too. He's pretty good. Yeah, he's
Speaker 1: pretty good. He's one of the reasons that the Cults
Speaker 1: are a sleeper team this year. Okay, all right, Uh,
Speaker 1: you got a list of the guys. I got the
Speaker 1: whole list. I got every every NFL player from Oregon.
Speaker 1: What about the ones that Cowboys drafted. I see that's
Speaker 1: what he That's it all comes back, isn't that where
Speaker 1: Mitchell was from? Yes, that's right, cornerback. You know what,
Speaker 1: he's still playing Terrence Mitchell. And but Cowboys traded him
Speaker 1: away Kansas City. Then he wound up in Cleveland and
Speaker 1: he's put together a nice little career. Terrence Mitchell. He
Speaker 1: was a guy though that I thought maybe Everson was
Speaker 1: like him. Yeah, because he shows up rookie and he
Speaker 1: had he training camp. He had a cockiness about him
Speaker 1: as he when he training camp, training camp, and the
Speaker 1: defensive back coach was trying to explain something to him
Speaker 1: and what to do with technique, and the guy who
Speaker 1: was like a was he like six seventh round, I
Speaker 1: don't remember. He was like yeah, it was late and
Speaker 1: he listened and I'm standing right there on the sideline
Speaker 1: and he goes, well, coach, this is the way I
Speaker 1: like to do it. And I'm going okay, bad answer.
Speaker 1: And he turned out to be real good eventually, but
Speaker 1: not with the Cowboys seventh round pick in twenty fourteen.
Speaker 1: And yeah, he was a he's practice squadter his first
Speaker 1: year in twenty fourteen, and he was on the Ruck
Speaker 1: and then he went to the Bears, came back to
Speaker 1: the Cowboys in twenty fifteen, and then he ended and
Speaker 1: then he Houston and then Kansas City, Cleveland, Houston. Now
Speaker 1: now he's with New England, New England. Was there a
Speaker 1: line here we are eight years later and he's still
Speaker 1: still playing Yeah, yeah, well I mean jes because he's
Speaker 1: still playing linebacker. Was there a linebacker the Cowboys drafted
Speaker 1: from Oregon? Linebacker? Oh? Back in the eighties, right for
Speaker 1: the Cowboys for more? Well, it should be on your list. Well, no,
Speaker 1: these loads are current players. Oh oh yeah? Who was
Speaker 1: it from? You can look it up. It was Mike Walter.
Speaker 1: Mike Walter. Yeah, second round pick in nineteen eighty three.
Speaker 1: There was another one, or maybe maybe there was exactly
Speaker 1: built he was. He was a good looking kid, defensive end.
Speaker 1: Maybe I'm trying to for somebody they were real high
Speaker 1: on and never panned out. M we'll think about that
Speaker 1: and come back to it. All right, we're up against
Speaker 1: a break. What do you want to see in mini campum?
Speaker 1: Is there? Yeah? Is there a particular player that you're yes,
Speaker 1: is there a particular player that you're interested in getting
Speaker 1: your eyes on? Either a draft choice. There's nine of them, right,
Speaker 1: there's twenty undrafted free agents. I got one for Everson.
Speaker 1: There's seven guys that were with them last year that
Speaker 1: didn't get a year of service, so they get to
Speaker 1: participate in a handful of guys here on tryouts, So
Speaker 1: about forty guys, so we can talk about that when
Speaker 1: we come You want to do that coming back? I
Speaker 1: thought you wanted to do it right now. Okay, all right,
Speaker 1: we'll do it. That's a tease. That's called a tease.
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Speaker 1: actually going to be on the practice field on Friday
Speaker 1: and Saturday. We'll actually have an opportunity to take a
Speaker 1: look for the first time. Now they may not be
Speaker 1: doing a whole lot on that practice field, but we'll
Speaker 1: actually be able to Used to the last couple of years,
Speaker 1: they scaled it down because this is an orientation program, right,
Speaker 1: because they realized that these guys, especially the guys that
Speaker 1: were like draft choices, they were all doing getting ready
Speaker 1: for the draft, right, getting ready for the combine. And
Speaker 1: they came out here and none of them were in
Speaker 1: really good shape because they were just practicing their forty
Speaker 1: times and how high they could jump and how high
Speaker 1: they could leap and or how far they could leave.
Speaker 1: If you want to get in shape of basketball, I'm
Speaker 1: sorry football. You play basketball. You played basketball, right, gets
Speaker 1: you if you just think about you, you a football
Speaker 1: player doing football workouts and you put them in a
Speaker 1: basketball game, he won't make it. I mean they used
Speaker 1: to come out here. They would come out here with
Speaker 1: their helmets on, and and you know when, I mean,
Speaker 1: they were like you right. They showed up and it's like,
Speaker 1: well I got to show them what I can do
Speaker 1: and that, you know, the contact, and they were getting
Speaker 1: more muscle aches and pains. And I remember Patrick Crayton's
Speaker 1: rookie year mini camp and he shows up. Parcels is
Speaker 1: here and the first day I was like, well, this
Speaker 1: guy's pretty good. The second day he's not moving very well.
Speaker 1: Well he velop I believe it was plantar fasciitis. I
Speaker 1: remember that right. And and the next day he's out
Speaker 1: there trying to and it's like I remember telling him, I,
Speaker 1: so what are you doing? I said, I heard you
Speaker 1: had this and he goes, yeah, he goes, but you
Speaker 1: think I'm gonna let Bill Parcels think I can't do this,
Speaker 1: and he pushed through it, and then it was you know,
Speaker 1: he had to basically suck it up and rehab so
Speaker 1: he'd be ready for training camp. But he knew coming
Speaker 1: from what was it, Northeastern Oklahoma, some double you can't
Speaker 1: be hurt when you come from Northeast double double, directional
Speaker 1: central M on the end of the yeah, Northeastern Oklahoma
Speaker 1: State A and M. Yeah, and he made it school
Speaker 1: of Technology. Yeah, okay, So I've got one for you,
Speaker 1: all right. It's a sleeper. Okay, that's what I want
Speaker 1: to hear. I want to hear a sleep. So and
Speaker 1: it's only on a tryout basis. Oh, I don't like
Speaker 1: that part of it. The guy's name is Simon Mathieson.
Speaker 1: Simon Mathison. He's a kicker. Oh yeah, that sounds like
Speaker 1: a kicker's name. Now wait yeah, and talking about I
Speaker 1: thought you were going to talk now wait talking about directional.
Speaker 1: They don't have a kicker. So there'll be three of
Speaker 1: them here, right, Simon Mathieson, how do you go ahead
Speaker 1: and look it up? Looking at I E S E
Speaker 1: N I. Oh wait Mathieson M A T H I
Speaker 1: E s O N s E N S E N. Okay,
Speaker 1: I got it right here, you can read it. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm looking him up. He's from Northwestern State. He's from
Speaker 1: Northwest Missouri State, A and M Technology. Now wait, he
Speaker 1: his last year there, I was twenty sixteen. Whoa, and
Speaker 1: he has not been in an NFL camp since, but
Speaker 1: he went to He's from Denmark, Denmark, that's right. And
Speaker 1: then he came it's probably Simone Simone, not Simon uh
Speaker 1: any any right, he actually hooked up with uh um
Speaker 1: oh shoot Beggen No, no, wow, Martin Anderson. Oh, there
Speaker 1: you go. Because he's from He's a David kicker, right,
Speaker 1: Martin was big at him. But he didn't get drafted,
Speaker 1: he didn't get invited to a camp. But he started
Speaker 1: working for a company called track Man, and they are
Speaker 1: the company director of operations and sales for track Man,
Speaker 1: And that's the company that came up with the tracking
Speaker 1: the golf shots. You know how you see on TV
Speaker 1: and they know, you know, you see the laser thing
Speaker 1: or whatever. Well, they developed a football program for kickers
Speaker 1: to judge their leg strength, leg speed, the lift on
Speaker 1: the ball, and how far the ball would have gone.
Speaker 1: On a field goal right, and NBC brought it into
Speaker 1: their Sunday night football broadcast and for the first time
Speaker 1: they used it at the Super Bowl this year. And
Speaker 1: he was the guy that would go to the stadiums
Speaker 1: and set up the tracking devices and to make sure
Speaker 1: it was working. He would kick and people saw him
Speaker 1: kick and they're going, well, why aren't you kicking? You're
Speaker 1: an awfully good kicker. So the Cowboys, I guess, heard
Speaker 1: about it and Baltimore was going to bring it into
Speaker 1: their system and you to judge kickers, and he's going
Speaker 1: to get a tryout. Wow about that. The only kickers
Speaker 1: can be that old and still come back twenty eight
Speaker 1: or something. Well, that's the old. No, it's actually pretty young.
Speaker 1: So it's an interesting story. I don't know if the
Speaker 1: guy can still kick. But he was pretty good at
Speaker 1: Northwest Missouri State. He kicked. He kicked for there. In
Speaker 1: his four years there, they won three Division two championships. Okay,
Speaker 1: and do you have anything to do with that? I
Speaker 1: don't know if he had any winning kicks. He showed up.
Speaker 1: He showed up as a walk on wide receiver in
Speaker 1: the middle of his freshman year. You know, he was
Speaker 1: a soccer player at soccer player in Denmark, and they
Speaker 1: saw him messing around kicking, and halfway through the season
Speaker 1: they were going into a game and I think the
Speaker 1: kicker got hurt and the coach went up to him
Speaker 1: and said you're up, and handed up his freshman year,
Speaker 1: making ten of ten. I've heard stranger stories, so stranger
Speaker 1: success stories hopefully. So it'll be interesting to see him kick.
Speaker 1: Okay'll be looking forward to that those preseason games that
Speaker 1: we'll find out about that if he makes, going to
Speaker 1: be featured. If he makes, let's go out of the
Speaker 1: sideline now and Mickey Spagnola, we'll tell the story of
Speaker 1: some old mouthless and it'll be the bell and it'll
Speaker 1: be the best story you get to you, by the way,
Speaker 1: all right, if they would ever come to me on
Speaker 1: the sideline. Yeah, that's right. Um, that's another story. Are
Speaker 1: you working the sidelines for you? No? I used to
Speaker 1: be like, wow, they're really kind of digging them all right.
Speaker 1: Ever since I got a cornerback for you that would
Speaker 1: be the draft pick out of Fresno State, Duran Bland. Okay,
Speaker 1: you need to check out Duran Duran Bland. That's cool.
Speaker 1: I like some of the video of him. Yeah you can.
Speaker 1: You can either come to the practice or you just
Speaker 1: pull him up. Yeah. Yeah, I have to say. Uh,
Speaker 1: this young man Marquis Bell mm hmm oh, okay, is
Speaker 1: he good? Oh well, we haven't seen him yet, but
Speaker 1: I've heard about him. I know the Cowboys like him. Well,
Speaker 1: he was a draftable guy. My college roommate, that's his
Speaker 1: that's his nephew. Really yeah, and that they told me
Speaker 1: to look out for him. You send me his phone up,
Speaker 1: the running back Marquise Bell, safety safety. Okay, yeah, so
Speaker 1: I hadn't called him. I gotta call this guy and
Speaker 1: let him know he's got some some I checked him out.
Speaker 1: I don't have my big green notebook. Why is he
Speaker 1: not in your big Oh no, I don't have I
Speaker 1: didn't bring my note book draft. I liked him, Um,
Speaker 1: you know, he had a little demonte Casey in him.
Speaker 1: He played uh Florida and Hill I think, Okay, I
Speaker 1: really yeah, they just gay. I just heard this, Okay,
Speaker 1: I just got this information. So I'm gonna be calling
Speaker 1: them in and invited them over and making sure. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Famu and utter watch out. Nate might have beat you too.
Speaker 1: That's right. That's Marquis spell. And it's spelled m A
Speaker 1: r k q u E s E Marquise spell. And
Speaker 1: I know that Cowboys brought it never could spell well.
Speaker 1: So Mike's my roommates spelled it way wrong. You got
Speaker 1: a whole another way. I'm glad how you spelled again,
Speaker 1: m A r k q U E s not spell ahead. Yeah.
Speaker 1: What was your roommate's name, Mike Hanes, Oh not? I say,
Speaker 1: wait a minute, I got to say that all the time.
Speaker 1: Mike Hayes his name, that's his son, it's his nephew, nephew, nephew. Uh,
Speaker 1: he's got a great shot. I mean, when you you
Speaker 1: think about it, Cowboys have not replaced Demante Casey and
Speaker 1: either as a with a draft or in free agency,
Speaker 1: and he started fourteen games last year. So I mean
Speaker 1: there's an opportunity for a safety, an undrafted guy in
Speaker 1: the in the Cowboys of a history not just Michael Downs,
Speaker 1: but more recent history of safeties making the roster because
Speaker 1: they don't want to spend a lot of money on safety,
Speaker 1: so they're always looking for somebody well, and in general
Speaker 1: in the NFL, safeties don't quarters. You'll have thirty five
Speaker 1: corners drafted a year, but you'll have twelve safeties. And
Speaker 1: that's funny because the safety to me is much more important,
Speaker 1: you know, when you think of the importance of it.
Speaker 1: Was like we talked about the Michael downs Woodson. Just
Speaker 1: being able to survey the field in the proper manner,
Speaker 1: you saved so many touchdowns and create you create opportunities
Speaker 1: for other players to make plays. So to me, that
Speaker 1: safety position is they're very underrated. I don't understand why
Speaker 1: they look at it that way. That's good. That's why
Speaker 1: Tyler Matthew was signing free agencies all over the place.
Speaker 1: He's always gonna have team, got signed by the same
Speaker 1: you see'll see what happens after the draft when guys
Speaker 1: look up and they go, I don't have a job. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we got a few of them right here, you know,
Speaker 1: and it's like, Okay, Sandry still has no job. I'll
Speaker 1: sign a one year still does not have a job.
Speaker 1: Now you got Bradberry out there, yeah yeah. And then
Speaker 1: Cowboys gave him a little extra money signing bonus Marquise
Speaker 1: Bell too, so he was a priority free agent. Signing
Speaker 1: another safety, undrafted guy one Yea Thomas out of Georgia
Speaker 1: Tech is another guy that they signed after the Actually
Speaker 1: sometimes that money is their guarantee for the practice squad.
Speaker 1: He's got and they gave him that moment and he's
Speaker 1: got reportedly two hundred guaranteed two hundred thousand guarantee. They
Speaker 1: got money just for wait, say that again, practice Like
Speaker 1: if you don't make the team, yeah, but you're guaranteed
Speaker 1: to make the practice squad, okay, and then whatever because
Speaker 1: they get paid now, Like how much a week it's
Speaker 1: going up? It used to be like seven thousand a
Speaker 1: week or something like that, and I think it's gone
Speaker 1: up to and like thirteen. Oh my god, dude, this
Speaker 1: is so that's so unfair. Multiply seventeen times? Man, can
Speaker 1: we do that? Like go back and sue for more
Speaker 1: money is the other way to do that? Um, but
Speaker 1: it's uh back to um back pay. That's yeah, well
Speaker 1: some back pay go ahead. The obviously the wide receiver
Speaker 1: third round wide receivers are going to be to see him.
Speaker 1: I mean, and because of the position he plays, we
Speaker 1: can act South Alabama. Yep, he's and he's got to play.
Speaker 1: They always have some talent coming ont of South Alabama.
Speaker 1: He's got to play immediately right, I would think. So
Speaker 1: he needs to be ready. I mean he needs to
Speaker 1: be able to beat out Um Noah Brown because Michael
Speaker 1: ga Gall gonna be us not playing the first month
Speaker 1: month of the season, and and who knows how well
Speaker 1: he plays when he gets back. Okay, how much he
Speaker 1: can play. And obviously the first round draft picked Tyler Smith.
Speaker 1: He's got to play immediately, right, Okay? Starting guard? Oh? Yes,
Speaker 1: what st what guards? Starting guard? First round? Yeah? Wow,
Speaker 1: we picked the guard. No, you picked we picked the guard.
Speaker 1: You picked the pick the guard and exactly what I
Speaker 1: told you. He's wait, he's not a guard, is not
Speaker 1: a guard, has got a G on his shirt for guard.
Speaker 1: Come on, man, he's a guard. Come on man, he's
Speaker 1: never played you know, first of all, I need to
Speaker 1: get a lot more credit. Hush, he's a tackle. They're
Speaker 1: hoping he can transition right now, Yes he is. No
Speaker 1: do what what did you just say he was? I said,
Speaker 1: he did? You going to start it guard? What did
Speaker 1: you say, started guard? Believe Bill, Mike? You said starting
Speaker 1: what guard? Okay? Man, the head the head coach said
Speaker 1: he was a left See that's why he didn't want
Speaker 1: me on want doesn't want the coach said he he
Speaker 1: was a left offensive lineman. Yeah, he's a left sider,
Speaker 1: left off place the left side. He's big enough, he
Speaker 1: plays both positions. They don't even they can line up
Speaker 1: someone else somewhere else because he's so big, he's so good.
Speaker 1: He's gonna takes one question. Yes, where is he going
Speaker 1: to play? First? Probably tackle? That's because tire is not
Speaker 1: going to be out there. I told you if okay,
Speaker 1: if they took an offensive lineman in the first it
Speaker 1: has to be a tackle that can play guard. Rookie
Speaker 1: rookie camp. Where is he lining up tomorrow? Rookie camp?
Speaker 1: Because is obviously not out there. Where is Tyler Smith
Speaker 1: gonna line up? Who knows how many tackles and how
Speaker 1: many guards do they have? Yeah, if if you're going
Speaker 1: to talk about rookie camp, he would line up at tackle. Okay, Yeah,
Speaker 1: he would line up a tackle because you don't have
Speaker 1: any other I mean you tackle, look as a tackle,
Speaker 1: you don't have enough guys to play well those who, well,
Speaker 1: Josh Ball would qualify. He'll be Josh Ball. He'll be
Speaker 1: at this camp. He'll be a tackle. And so he'll
Speaker 1: be a tackle. And let me what side, what side.
Speaker 1: Is he playing right? Well, he's been playing right. But
Speaker 1: then well let's well let's go. Then, well let's go.
Speaker 1: He's a tackle. He's a tackle. So there's two tackles
Speaker 1: that you got there. You ain't got any guards. Got
Speaker 1: you got Isaac Allercombe, the international player. He's a Guarday
Speaker 1: you got he was listening? You mean the hispanic dude
Speaker 1: from Massa. Yeah he's still here. Yeah, yeah, but he's
Speaker 1: a free He got a tackle from A and M
Speaker 1: commerce are non Simon. Now, he was listed as a
Speaker 1: tackle when they signed him. I don't know if he
Speaker 1: is a tackle. But it's not like they're gonna play
Speaker 1: football out I know. But this gives us a clue
Speaker 1: where they're gonna be up. Are they going to train
Speaker 1: him as a tackle. I'm not gonna see a why
Speaker 1: receiver that's snapping the ball just because it's rookie camp.
Speaker 1: Come on, man, I still I still carry my victory flag.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I bet I was right. I was the
Speaker 1: kicker yea Commerce all right, I was right, man, that's
Speaker 1: oh my god, after all these experts, I was right.
Speaker 1: I was correct. Okay, how about the second round draft pick,
Speaker 1: the edge rusher from Ole Miss. Let me see it
Speaker 1: says G T Yeah, but G first, G first, that's right,
Speaker 1: and it's not because it was an out alphabetical who
Speaker 1: else second round draft pick will Miss? Is it Sam? Sam? Sam?
Speaker 1: The man? We heard that he wants to be called
Speaker 1: D D D E defensive end. Really d Williams. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I saw that. I'll tell you what, what are you gonna?
Speaker 1: I was in he wants to be a D D
Speaker 1: is That was just saying, no, that's what he is.
Speaker 1: He thought he was. I thought he was a linebacker. No, no,
Speaker 1: he was. He played and at Old Miss they played
Speaker 1: a three man front. He was basically a five technique
Speaker 1: defensive end. There he'll be in coming. So I was
Speaker 1: in Jackson, my guys that watched Old Miss all the time,
Speaker 1: and one of my friends was, I think he's a
Speaker 1: donor at Old Miss. Uh, they love They thought he
Speaker 1: was really good, uh and struggled against the run. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but uh, Old Mass single season sack records better than
Speaker 1: Randy Gregory. He's he's similar. I don't know if he's better.
Speaker 1: Go watch his film His First Step and and and
Speaker 1: I've noticed that Charles Haley been hanging around here a
Speaker 1: little bit lately. So he's gonna have some great mentor
Speaker 1: out there right for defensive end, pass rushing and Charles
Speaker 1: it'll be. It'll be. Neither did the rest of us,
Speaker 1: but they were, they were really high on this guy.
Speaker 1: So Um he went the junior college route. Um. He
Speaker 1: had a similar upbringing that Dez Bryant had. Um. I
Speaker 1: mean that was part of his bio in the draft
Speaker 1: up process. Removed from his mother and living with grandmother's aunts,
Speaker 1: legal guardian in high school. Um went to Northeast Mississippi
Speaker 1: Junior College I think it is, and then went to
Speaker 1: Old miss and made something out of himself. Good stuff,
Speaker 1: all right, anybody else you want to know about, Uh,
Speaker 1: there's all sorts of people. You're probably not going to
Speaker 1: see Daman Clark do too much, right since he had
Speaker 1: the vertebrae fusion surgery that they discovered at the combine,
Speaker 1: So he's probably still five months away. Tight End, the
Speaker 1: fourth round pick. The tight end needs to contribute to
Speaker 1: Jake Ferguson out of Wisconsin. He needs to be the
Speaker 1: second guy. You've got skills. Um, when you're talking Wisconsin, Wisconsin,
Speaker 1: you probably should block, right, Yeah, don't think that's what
Speaker 1: they need that second tight ends because they want to
Speaker 1: use two tight ends and they don't have two tight
Speaker 1: ends that can go out there and block, so we
Speaker 1: used to have one. All of a sudden, he chanted
Speaker 1: to a wide receiver. Yeah. So there are real opportunities
Speaker 1: for the first four picks in the draft, right, okay,
Speaker 1: And there's a real opportunity for uh fifth round pick
Speaker 1: John Ridgeway. Yes, Big John, Big John Ridgeway out of Arkansas.
Speaker 1: Figure if you're big John, what's his position? He's a
Speaker 1: nose tackle six five three twenty one, three years with
Speaker 1: good instruction at Illinois State, by the way, and then
Speaker 1: finished open and then in Arkansas. Wow, that's a path
Speaker 1: not uncommon these days. He went, He went, he was
Speaker 1: in Normal, Illinois. Normal, all right, Normal, that's the name
Speaker 1: of the city, Illinois, Illinois State. Not normal. Wow. All right.
Speaker 1: So that about wraps this thing up. Are the MAV's
Speaker 1: gonna win tonight? Yeah? Yeah, yes, okay, they're gonna figure
Speaker 1: out win tonight. You sounded very shaky. Yeah. I was
Speaker 1: gonna say they're gonna figure out. They're not playing pick
Speaker 1: up at the gym, like just dribble, dribble and moving man,
Speaker 1: keep the ball. What do you think got in their heads?
Speaker 1: You got Luca magic, you know? Yeah, well there was
Speaker 1: no magic. Yeah, it was like then the other guy.
Speaker 1: It's very enticing. It was like one possession shots and
Speaker 1: down to like three seconds left on the show. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I was like, okay, now I got to hold
Speaker 1: something up. Hopefully they go home. And the same thing
Speaker 1: happened with the Stars on it. Yeah, what happened? What
Speaker 1: happened to the Stars last night? Because I left this
Speaker 1: TV station there was telling nothing going into the third
Speaker 1: I got home and they lost three to one. Don't
Speaker 1: don't be afraid to score two goals, okay, because they're
Speaker 1: leading one to nothing for two and a half and
Speaker 1: they assumed a defensive posture and you've got to be perfect, right,
Speaker 1: and they weren't perfect. They scored. This is the playoffs. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then they scored again and then the last one
Speaker 1: open open nets goal. So they got to win on Friday.
Speaker 1: So both teams got to win Thursday and Friday. Bringing
Speaker 1: it back to the Cowboys, this is the first time
Speaker 1: in fourteen years that the Cowboys, Mavericks, and Stars are
Speaker 1: playing playoff games in the same calendar year in the
Speaker 1: same season years yea, since two thousand and eight, the
Speaker 1: two thousand and seven season for the Cowboys. Okay, now
Speaker 1: look up when the Rangers were part of it, and
Speaker 1: there it has never happened where he's it's never happened
Speaker 1: where the Rangers, Cowboys, Stars, and Mavericks have played playoff
Speaker 1: games in the same calendar year ninety six. Nope, but
Speaker 1: one of them didn't. Mavericks were horrible. Then, oh they were? Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's Raggiata Bottom. Oh yeah, yeah, Quinn Buckner. I was
Speaker 1: trying to think. I was just trying to think when
Speaker 1: the Rangers were in the plays, throwing some names under
Speaker 1: the bus, and then they went to they went, they
Speaker 1: went to the World Series in twent ten and eleven, right,
Speaker 1: and the Cowboys certainly weren't in any playoffs for ten
Speaker 1: years here, No. Ten was six and ten, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: wishing for Nate. Yeah, Nate would have been good. When
Speaker 1: they went eight Nate in Jason Garrett's first year, that
Speaker 1: was like, oh okay, yeah, we got jumped up. Well
Speaker 1: he just gone five and five and three the year before.
Speaker 1: All Right, are you out of mix shots? I think so? Okay,
Speaker 1: I could find some though, if you want to continue
Speaker 1: that's all right. I gotta get out to a golf course. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I gotta say goodbye to what go Maverick, Stars, Rangers, Cowboys.
Speaker 1: You gotta say goodbye to take you Satan, go about
Speaker 1: a golfer. I'm going out to the Byron Nelson right now. Speech.
Speaker 1: He's teeing off at one oh sixty, first shot. He
Speaker 1: and Spieth are playing together. Wow at one oh six
Speaker 1: this afternoon, and the seven fifty six. He did win
Speaker 1: his last start. Yeah, Scheffler's on a more of a role.
Speaker 1: He's won four tournaments this year. Well, in the last major, No,
Speaker 1: he did not Cheffer Yeah, no, Chef won the next week.
Speaker 1: He won the next tournament after. It's actually a pretty
Speaker 1: good field out here at the Byron Nelson because locals well,
Speaker 1: and because the PGA Championship is next week at Southern
Speaker 1: Hills and Tulsa, and so so you've got more guys
Speaker 1: that are tuning up for that. K mmy stopped here
Speaker 1: going going with that too, I don't think so. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: because I'm going to be covering the Mavericks and the
Speaker 1: Stars in the playoffs week right right, Because the Mavericks
Speaker 1: are not only winning tonight They're gonna win Game seven
Speaker 1: in Phoenix, right, Mickey, where they haven't won since twenty nineteen.
Speaker 1: I don't know if they were taking it last night
Speaker 1: the other night, they would have been something. But yeah, well,
Speaker 1: you know what though, if I would hate to be
Speaker 1: a team playing the Mavericks in a one game playoff
Speaker 1: because you never know when that Luca breeze will start. Well,
Speaker 1: and it's just with Luca. With Luca on that other side,
Speaker 1: I am Phoenix needs to take care of business. In
Speaker 1: the first half of this last game. I'm telling my son,
Speaker 1: we're gonna win four in a row. I mean, we're
Speaker 1: gonna win four in the row. I just knew it.
Speaker 1: I could just see it. And then the third quarter started.
Speaker 1: All right, that's enough Mavis talk for this week. Here
Speaker 1: on mix Shots and Oh I can't wait till next
Speaker 1: week is Mickey will have some shots to fire after
Speaker 1: he sees these rookies the next couple of absolutely at
Speaker 1: a rookie mini camp. And salute to all our area
Speaker 1: sports teams from Everson Walls as we close Overick Stars,
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