1 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:09,240 Speaker 1: Hello everybody, and welcome back to the Psychology of Your Twenties, 2 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:12,240 Speaker 1: the podcast where we talk through some of the big 3 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 1: life changes and transitions of our twenties and what they 4 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 1: mean for our psychology. 5 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 2: Hello everybody, Welcome back to the show. Welcome back to 6 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 2: the podcast. New listeners, old listeners. Wherever you are in 7 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:32,159 Speaker 2: the world, it is so great to have you here 8 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 2: back for another episode as we, of course break down 9 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 2: the very exciting, very unique psychology of our twenties. Before 10 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 2: we begin, I wanted to give a quick shout out 11 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:46,559 Speaker 2: to my other podcast, Mantra. You heard that correctly. You 12 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:50,520 Speaker 2: may not know, but I have not one, but two podcasts, 13 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 2: and Mantra. How I explain it is basically the philosophical, spiritual, 14 00:00:57,320 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 2: meditative sidekick or sister the Psychology of Your Twenties. Every Monday, 15 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:05,960 Speaker 2: I give you a mantra to guide your week, something 16 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 2: like I'm a magnetic person. I know that love won't 17 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:13,399 Speaker 2: pass me. I let my work speak louder than my doubt. 18 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:17,759 Speaker 2: I cultivate peace within a mantra to essentially be your 19 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 2: mental anchor for the weak ahead. Episodes go for around 20 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 2: thirty minutes and they include evidence backed mental exercises for 21 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 2: really powerful mindset shifts, general prompts, and dive into wisdom 22 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:36,199 Speaker 2: from great thinkers. Plus just some personal stories that I've 23 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:39,959 Speaker 2: never spoken about here, stories of heartbreak, stories of grief, 24 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 2: of friendship breakups, of major failures that have really defined 25 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 2: me in some ways. So this is my ask of you. 26 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 2: If you love the psychology of your twenties, give Mantra 27 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:55,279 Speaker 2: a listen. Just try one episode, see what you think. 28 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 2: It's very much a passion project for me right now. 29 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 2: So if you have feed back mantras that you think 30 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 2: I should do, if you have a deep thought or 31 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 2: a dilemma that has been sitting heavy on your heart, 32 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 2: on your soul, I would love to hear it. I'll 33 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:12,960 Speaker 2: leave a link in the episode description. But again, thank 34 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 2: you so much for giving it a listen. Let's get 35 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 2: back to the show and what we're talking about today. 36 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 2: Today we're going to talk about music Life's soundtrack. I 37 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 2: guess I was listening to Good Hang with Amy Pohla 38 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 2: and Rashida Jones the other day and in their episode, 39 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 2: Rashida Jones said something really powerful. She essentially said, music 40 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 2: is a way that the universe shows us love, and 41 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:42,639 Speaker 2: it really inspired this episode and a bit of an 42 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 2: investigation into why music is so transcendent, why it shows 43 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 2: up in every single culture, what it does to our brains, 44 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 2: what it does to our lives, what it does to 45 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:55,920 Speaker 2: our bodies, to our emotions. You might think, you know 46 00:02:55,960 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 2: what's so psychological about music? You know what's so important 47 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 2: the songs that I listened to on my morning commute 48 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 2: or what plays in the grocery store. I think music 49 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 2: feels so ubiquitous and it's everywhere. Sometimes it can just 50 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 2: feel like background noise, But it is incredibly psychologically powerful. 51 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:21,640 Speaker 2: It is honestly a spiritual experienced at times. Music has 52 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 2: the ability to connect us, transport us, to shape our emotions, 53 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 2: to ignite memories, even to influence our perception of reality. 54 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:33,080 Speaker 2: It is actually a fundamental part of our human experience. 55 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 2: It is a profound psychological force. Some people would even 56 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 2: call it the universal language because of how it speaks 57 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 2: to our nervous system. So, if you've ever had that 58 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 2: magical feeling of goose bumps, of suddenly being able to 59 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 2: smell the first time you heard a song, of being 60 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:57,119 Speaker 2: transported back to your first heartbreak, of finding that one 61 00:03:57,240 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 2: song can completely change your day, and I want to 62 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 2: explore that today We're going to pull apart why music 63 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 2: hits us so hard, why we like the music that 64 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 2: we do, where your music preference came from, also the 65 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 2: neuroscience behind the emotional surges that it creates. I also 66 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 2: want to talk about the link between music and memory, 67 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 2: between music and personality, between music and intelligence. And I 68 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:27,039 Speaker 2: also want to get into how different frequencies, different bpms, 69 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 2: different kinds of music can actually change your thinking style 70 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 2: and can actually put you into certain I guess I 71 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:38,600 Speaker 2: don't want to say like spaces, like mental spaces. Certain 72 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 2: types of music can actually activate different kinds of brainwaves 73 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 2: that will help you when you're studying, that will help 74 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:48,160 Speaker 2: you when you're suffering, that will help you when you're running, 75 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 2: whatever it is. I want to give you the formula 76 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 2: for what music to listen to when, and so much more. 77 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 2: I am so excited for this episode. A little fun 78 00:04:57,520 --> 00:05:00,800 Speaker 2: fact for you guys. As a child, I actually always 79 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 2: thought I was going to be a musician. I played trombone, 80 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 2: I played piano. I used to write songs, I sang constantly. 81 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 2: I came from such a musical family, and so this 82 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 2: episode was particularly fascinating to me to be able to 83 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 2: investigate a little bit further for you guys. So without 84 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 2: further ado, let's tune into the psychology of music. Let's 85 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:34,039 Speaker 2: cut straight to the chase. What the heck is going 86 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:36,719 Speaker 2: on in our heads when we play a certain song, 87 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 2: When we press play, it is not just sound waves 88 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 2: hitting our ear drums. It is a full on neurological concert, 89 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:48,359 Speaker 2: like a symphony of brain activity that is going to 90 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 2: explain to us why music feels so freakin' vital. So 91 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:56,679 Speaker 2: when a melody, when a rhythm, a harmony, reaches your brain, 92 00:05:57,279 --> 00:06:02,360 Speaker 2: it doesn't just stay confined to the parts that process sound. 93 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:05,720 Speaker 2: So there's been a whole team of neuroscientists who have 94 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:09,720 Speaker 2: been trying to figure out whereas music actually processed, including 95 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:12,919 Speaker 2: a big team at McGill University, and they've shown through 96 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:18,480 Speaker 2: fMRI skins that music actually lights up a whole network 97 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:22,239 Speaker 2: of brain regions. It lights up the amygdala, our brain's 98 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 2: basically emotional powerhouse. It lights up the hippocampus, which is 99 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 2: critical for memory formation, and even areas involved in motor control, 100 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:36,679 Speaker 2: which is why you might involuntarily, you know, like start 101 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 2: tapping your foot or bobbing your head even if you're 102 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 2: trying to stay still. I think a lot of us 103 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:44,159 Speaker 2: have had that experience where we're like, oh my gosh, 104 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 2: we just can't stop moving to a song involuntarily because 105 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:55,360 Speaker 2: of our music touches different parts of our brains. Very interestingly, 106 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 2: what they found is that this full brain, full mind, 107 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 2: full neurological explosion is very similar to when we fall 108 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:08,040 Speaker 2: in love. It's very similar to when we experience fear. 109 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 2: It's very similar to when we experience deep sadness. So 110 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 2: music is infiltrating all of these different emotional cortexes and 111 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 2: emotional systems. It also elicits feelings on its own. It's 112 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 2: responsible for creating certain emotional states, you know, happiness, joyfulness, loneliness, calm, pain. 113 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 2: How does this happen? A huge part of it comes 114 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 2: down to dopamine. And you have probably heard of dopamine. 115 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 2: Everyone thinks of it as our brains reward chemical. It's 116 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 2: the one that's associated with pleasure, motivation. And also what 117 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 2: you may not know is it's associated with anticipation. And 118 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 2: this is critical. So this beautiful author, his name is 119 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 2: Daniel Leviton, and he has this book called This Is 120 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 2: Your brain on music, and he explains how the reason 121 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 2: that music makes us feel so good is because it 122 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 2: creates anticipation. Think about like a build up in a 123 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 2: dance track, or like a gradual crescendo, and like a 124 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 2: classical musical piece, or like a verse leading into a chorus, 125 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 2: your brain almost unconsciously starts predicting what's coming. And that 126 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 2: prediction that like that feeling of waiting, that's where the 127 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 2: dopamine really starts flowing. And so when the musical payoff arrives, 128 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 2: when you hit the high note, when the chorus drops, 129 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:40,200 Speaker 2: when the harmony resolves, like you get that satisfying hit. 130 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 2: So this is the same neural pathway that gets activated 131 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 2: when you're waiting for a really delicious meal and you 132 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 2: take the first bite, or when you achieve a goal, 133 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 2: or you even get like a text from someone that 134 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 2: you really really like. Music is tapping into our fundamental 135 00:08:56,160 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 2: reward system, and it's inherently pleasurable because of anticipation. It's 136 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 2: not just that pleasure principle. Even music can also profoundly 137 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:13,320 Speaker 2: alter your physiological arousal basically how awake, alert, or calm 138 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 2: your body feels. And this is thanks to something called entrainment. 139 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 2: Entrainment is this phenomenon where your internal biological rhythms, your 140 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:29,959 Speaker 2: heart rate, your breathing, even your brain waves actually synchronize 141 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 2: with external rhythms like those in music. I find it's 142 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 2: so fascinating that our bodies can do this. It's like 143 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 2: this beautiful piece of evidence to me of the miracle 144 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 2: of existence that our brains sync up to rhythm and 145 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 2: sync up to song and sound. If you put on 146 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 2: a slow, ambient, calm piece of music, your heart rate 147 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:58,680 Speaker 2: will start to subtly decrease, your breathing starts to deepen. 148 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:04,359 Speaker 2: You literally physically relax and sync up to the music. Conversely, 149 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:07,719 Speaker 2: if you are listening to like techno or house, your 150 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 2: heart rate will pick up, your breathing becomes quicker, and 151 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:15,200 Speaker 2: you will feel that surge of energy. That's why when 152 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 2: you're running, we really enjoy listening to songs with a 153 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 2: higher tempo because it matches the activity that we're doing, 154 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 2: making us feel more tuned in. So this isn't just 155 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 2: about feeling good. It is actually about music acting as 156 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:35,320 Speaker 2: a direct, unconscious regulator of your body's internal states. We 157 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 2: use this idea well. Our bodies take advantage of entrainment 158 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:44,320 Speaker 2: to manage how we feel, often without even realizing that 159 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 2: we're doing it. Let's talk about the role of music 160 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 2: in significant emotional periods of our lives as well, and 161 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 2: how it can emotionally regulate us. Particularly, let's focus it 162 00:10:55,400 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 2: on breakups. I feel like music and breakups are symbiotic, 163 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 2: like they feed off each other in a weird way. 164 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 2: Every single artist in the history of this planet has 165 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:12,200 Speaker 2: had some kind of breakup song or some song that 166 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 2: is motivated by heartache because it is music's probably greatest fuel. 167 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 2: And then on the flip side, music also tends to 168 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 2: make heartbreak feel almost a little bit more bearable in 169 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 2: a way. I have a few breakup playlists that I 170 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 2: made during past heartaches and heartbreaks, and I was listening 171 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 2: back to them when I was writing this episode, and 172 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 2: it really transported me back to that time. What I 173 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 2: remember is how songs that were intended to feel sad 174 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 2: and devastating did make me feel sad and devastated, but 175 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 2: they actually also provided me with this really intense catharsis. 176 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:52,319 Speaker 2: And I remember listening to this one song in particular, 177 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:56,680 Speaker 2: it's called Is It Just Me? By Emily Burns, and 178 00:11:56,720 --> 00:12:00,160 Speaker 2: I was listening to it in my car near the beach, 179 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 2: maybe a month after I broke up with my first boyfriend, 180 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:07,320 Speaker 2: and just sobbing and sobbing so much that this older 181 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:10,560 Speaker 2: man came over to check that I was okay, And 182 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:14,840 Speaker 2: I also remember feeling a lot better afterwards. It pushed 183 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:17,720 Speaker 2: me to a really low point, but then allowed me 184 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:21,319 Speaker 2: to dwell in that feeling and then move on. The 185 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 2: power of a breakup song is that it provides an 186 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 2: opportunity to feel the feeling as deeply as possible, the 187 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 2: many feelings as deeply as possible, to get in sync 188 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 2: with that feeling, let it wash over you, and then 189 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 2: feel it lessen as you get it all out. What 190 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 2: is the best breakup song according to psychology? Now, this 191 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 2: was something that I really wanted to find out. I 192 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:47,079 Speaker 2: couldn't give you a specific answer, but there do seem 193 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:50,680 Speaker 2: to be a few critical things that a good breakup 194 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 2: song has to contain. The best breakup song has to 195 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 2: have attention and release, something that builds up and builds 196 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 2: up and builds up to like an explosion point and 197 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:06,840 Speaker 2: then goes down b It has to have emotional vulnerability 198 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 2: of some sort. See relatability and specificity. So the more 199 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 2: detail the better. Think about like Taylor Swift's classic breakup 200 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 2: song All Too Well, there's so much detail in that 201 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 2: that feels specific but is actually quite general. So people 202 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 2: can relate to it. They see themselves in those feelings 203 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 2: and in those circumstances that transport it to that time 204 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 2: and d It has to have a hook, a really 205 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 2: good line, a really good harmony that you can kind 206 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 2: of croon over again and again and again, all of 207 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 2: which provides the emotional catharsis and the closure almost even 208 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 2: if it's just in that moment that our heart really 209 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 2: really wants. According to a twenty fourteen study, breakup music, 210 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 2: sad music is more about nostalgia. It's more about reminiscing 211 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:59,679 Speaker 2: than it is actually about grief or sadness, which actually 212 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:02,840 Speaker 2: means that listening to sad music makes it almost a 213 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 2: positive experience. So the other thing that break up songs 214 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 2: really do is that they kind of transport us through time. 215 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 2: They unlock, they resurrect memories, They let us relive memories 216 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 2: that maybe we've forgotten. Music in general has this amazing capability. 217 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 2: You know, you're living your life, you're just going along, 218 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 2: and then suddenly You'll hear a song from when you're 219 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 2: a kid, or from some significant period, and you are 220 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 2: like immediately transferred back there. And it's not just that 221 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 2: your memories are being played in your head. It's almost 222 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 2: a sensory experience. You can smell your childhood home, you 223 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 2: can feel the tension and the energy between you and 224 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 2: that situationship, You feel that distinct bittersweet ache, you can 225 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 2: taste certain things. It is a full body time machine 226 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 2: for your brain. So why is music so intrinsically linked 227 00:14:59,840 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 2: to memory? So psychologists who study autobiographical memory, so that's 228 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 2: basically memory that contains your personal history, your lived experiences. 229 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 2: They have a few powerful theories. First, music is often 230 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 2: deeply intertwined with highly emotional events. Our brain's, particularly the hippocampus, 231 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 2: which is the memory formation center, and the amygdala. They 232 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 2: work hand in hand to code what they see as 233 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 2: significant experiences. So the more intense and emotion or experiences 234 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 2: is at the time, the more information is taken in 235 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 2: from the environment to ensure that that memory is really 236 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 2: locked into our brain. If a memory, if a moment 237 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 2: is highly emotionally salient, basically our brain is like, this 238 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 2: is something we want to be able to reflect on 239 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 2: because it may be able to help us in future experiences. 240 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 2: Something that intense is something that we can't forget. So 241 00:15:57,600 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 2: instead of just remembering one element of the scene or 242 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 2: one element of the event, it will start to code 243 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 2: the smells, the sounds, the feelings, the tastes, the lightness, 244 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 2: the brightness, all of those things. And so music becomes 245 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 2: attached to these really hard moments. When you hear that 246 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 2: song again, you're not just retrieving the musical information, all 247 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 2: the other rich emotional sensory details that were encoded with 248 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 2: it will come along. It's a phenomenon known as the 249 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 2: prowsed effect actually, whereby a sensory experience brings up intense 250 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 2: memories it was initially tied to, and music is one 251 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 2: of those powerful sensory experiences. Secondly, music is often tied 252 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 2: and associated with specific contexts, specifically because songs tend to 253 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 2: be played and repeated for short periods of time, if 254 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 2: that makes sense. So hit songs will play for a 255 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 2: summer over the radio, meaning that and then you might 256 00:16:57,320 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 2: not hear it for a while, meaning that it really 257 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 2: is stuck to that moment or a certain playlist or 258 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 2: song that you really like is something that you're going 259 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:06,359 Speaker 2: to play over and over and over again, So it 260 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:10,440 Speaker 2: becomes associated with the time and also with the feeling 261 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:13,000 Speaker 2: of that time. So whether it's an album, whether it's 262 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:15,920 Speaker 2: a playlist, whether it is a hit song, this all 263 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 2: creates a really strong context dependent memory. The music becomes 264 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:25,640 Speaker 2: the environmental cue. So when you re encounter that queue, 265 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:28,880 Speaker 2: your brain has a direct pathway back to that specific 266 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:33,920 Speaker 2: time and place. It's like musical time travel. What's even 267 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 2: more fascinating is actually how resilient yours and eyes musical 268 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:46,359 Speaker 2: memory can be. Researchers who are currently working with individuals 269 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 2: who have severe memory impairments, so they've had brain damage, 270 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 2: they have dementia, they often find that musical memories are 271 00:17:55,880 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 2: among the last memories to fade. Isn't that just like wonderful? 272 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 2: Obviously not the memory loss part, but wow, Like, I 273 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:08,359 Speaker 2: find that really special to think that the songs that 274 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 2: I'm listening to now might be one of the last 275 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 2: things that I remember if I go through If I 276 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:18,159 Speaker 2: go through memory loss, people can struggle to recall their 277 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 2: own names, they don't know what their children's names are, 278 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:24,760 Speaker 2: but they can sing along to songs from their childhood 279 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 2: they can even learn new harmonies, they can tune into 280 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:32,639 Speaker 2: new songs. And this really suggests that musical memories are 281 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 2: processed and stored in slightly different, perhaps more distributed brain regions, 282 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:43,479 Speaker 2: meaning that they're very, very robust. So whilst people are 283 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:46,160 Speaker 2: still trying to figure out where exactly certain memories are stored, 284 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 2: what they do know is that certain memories are stored 285 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 2: in different places, because they'll find that certain types of 286 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 2: memories will fade almost all at the same time. And 287 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 2: so what this is saying is that music is stored 288 00:18:57,560 --> 00:19:00,119 Speaker 2: in so many different places that even as all all 289 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 2: these structures of the brain deteriorate, it remains. So I 290 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:08,119 Speaker 2: just think it's such a testament to how vital music 291 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 2: is for our for life. Like I know I'm sounding 292 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:16,639 Speaker 2: very dramatic here, but it is life giving, it is 293 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 2: memory given. Like it is it makes us so human 294 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 2: and connected. There is a slight problem with that though. 295 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:29,480 Speaker 2: The fact that music can transport us so powerfully means 296 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 2: that sometimes it can also be a source of deep pain, 297 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:37,439 Speaker 2: of deep nostalgia, and it can be kind of like 298 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 2: a self punishing tool where we listen to songs that 299 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:44,880 Speaker 2: we know are going to make us feel terrible time 300 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:47,400 Speaker 2: and time again as a way to pull us back 301 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 2: into that time rather than move forward. It means that 302 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 2: a lot of music from your past can sometimes bring 303 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 2: up emotions and feelings that are less resolved than they 304 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 2: should be, Like they're just they're still buzzing in the 305 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:04,719 Speaker 2: background and you haven't had a chance to address them. 306 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:07,280 Speaker 2: But you're using music as a way to stay tuned 307 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 2: into that time. So, whilst it is a really powerful 308 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 2: magical bridge, it's also worth noting whether music is allowing 309 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:21,000 Speaker 2: you to pity yourself and to linger and to stay 310 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 2: stuck in a period of time, or whether it is 311 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 2: just a nice place to visit. If you're constantly listening 312 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 2: to music that is making it hard for you to 313 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 2: move on from a chapter in your life, perhaps it's 314 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:37,439 Speaker 2: becoming a bit of a problem in some ways. I 315 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 2: will say, I do think that music is also really 316 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 2: beautiful in that way, and then it gives you a 317 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:45,120 Speaker 2: marker for how much you've grown. So I was telling 318 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:46,720 Speaker 2: you guys that I was listening to some of these 319 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:50,680 Speaker 2: breakup playlists that I used to have from significant breakups 320 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 2: in my life, and the interesting thing was listening back 321 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 2: to them. I used to obviously listen to them to 322 00:20:55,440 --> 00:21:00,720 Speaker 2: bring up painful feelings and to hopefully resolve them. When 323 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 2: I listen to them, I feel really bittersweet. I feel 324 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 2: it's not happiness, it's just like comfort almost. I listen 325 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:13,200 Speaker 2: to them and I feel like I'm giving the past 326 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:15,440 Speaker 2: version of me like a really big, warm hug because 327 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:18,640 Speaker 2: I knew how much those songs affected her at the time, 328 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:21,040 Speaker 2: and they just no longer do. So it is like 329 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:27,120 Speaker 2: a really beautiful way to see how far you've grown. Okay, 330 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:29,399 Speaker 2: we're going to take a short break, but when we return, 331 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 2: I want to tell you what music has to say 332 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:36,359 Speaker 2: about your personality, specifically how your music preference has formed 333 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 2: what it might say about you, but also how to 334 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 2: really utilize the incredible psychological power of music to elevate 335 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 2: your life, elevate your work, elevate your concentration. So stick 336 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:55,720 Speaker 2: around and stay with us. Music obviously has many many functions, 337 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 2: but it can actually be a tool to really discover 338 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:02,120 Speaker 2: your personality. And that might I sound bizarre, but the 339 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:05,879 Speaker 2: research on the links between personality and music taste is 340 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:10,440 Speaker 2: incredibly expansive and honestly so spot on at times. I'm 341 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 2: going to talk about the findings from a few studies 342 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:15,600 Speaker 2: here to give you an oversight about what kind of 343 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:18,879 Speaker 2: music says what about what kind of person So the 344 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:20,720 Speaker 2: first study that I want to talk about is this 345 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:24,480 Speaker 2: one from twenty fourteen, and this study looked at seven 346 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 2: hundred and seventy two participants and found that people who 347 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 2: enjoy sad music have greater empathy but also greater emotional sensitivity. 348 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:36,480 Speaker 2: Hence why they get so much pleasure from really sinking 349 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:39,439 Speaker 2: into a song that is quite vulnerable and intense. So 350 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:41,719 Speaker 2: if you find that the majority of your playlists are 351 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 2: quite sad and forlorn, and you know, low, dark moody, 352 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:50,200 Speaker 2: it might be that actually you're going to perform higher 353 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 2: on tests of empathy and of emotional sensitivity. A second 354 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:58,400 Speaker 2: study using Spotify listening history, which I think is such 355 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:01,480 Speaker 2: a great database if you obviously give them permission to 356 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 2: use it. The study was published in twenty twenty, and 357 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:07,639 Speaker 2: it had a forty four item questionnaire for personality, and 358 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:11,320 Speaker 2: then it also compared and matched those personality scores with 359 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 2: what people were listening to, and it found over fifty 360 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 2: correlations between how many playlists you had, your favorite artists, 361 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 2: your genre of choice, and all these things and what 362 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:23,959 Speaker 2: kind of person that you may be. For example, they 363 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:27,360 Speaker 2: found that people who listen to more folk music are 364 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:31,119 Speaker 2: more open to new experiences. They're also more open to 365 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 2: new experiences the more artists they follow. So if someone's 366 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:36,680 Speaker 2: following more artists, the more likely they're going to want 367 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:38,359 Speaker 2: to travel, and they're going to want to see things 368 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:42,679 Speaker 2: and taste new foods. People who were high in conscientiousness 369 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:46,919 Speaker 2: were less likely to listen to things like emo and punk, 370 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 2: and they were more likely to listen to soul and 371 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:55,400 Speaker 2: country and not just country old country. The most extroverted 372 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 2: people in this study tended to listen more to other 373 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 2: people's playlist and they listen to R and B, Caribbean 374 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:08,159 Speaker 2: funk and country the most. It's just so fascinating how 375 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 2: much this has to tell us about ourselves. I would 376 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:12,919 Speaker 2: really recommend checking out all these results. Is to study 377 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:16,120 Speaker 2: that I think Spotify actually did or they lent their 378 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 2: data to. If you just look up Spotify Music Personality Score, 379 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:23,639 Speaker 2: whatever it is, I'm sure you'll find it. Finally, another 380 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 2: really fun factor around the link between personality and music 381 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:29,359 Speaker 2: that I found was from a worldwide twenty fifteen study 382 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:33,280 Speaker 2: that found that people who empathize more with other people's 383 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:38,200 Speaker 2: emotions tend to prefer genres like soft rock, R and B, 384 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:41,879 Speaker 2: and folk, but people who are more logical, what we 385 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:48,639 Speaker 2: call systematizers, prefer heavy metal, classical and complex music. It 386 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:52,879 Speaker 2: also turns out that we generally actually form our music 387 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:57,480 Speaker 2: taste between the ages of thirteen and sixteen. The music 388 00:24:57,520 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 2: that we listen to and that we like during that 389 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:03,480 Speaker 2: period tends to stick with us for a very, very, 390 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:06,639 Speaker 2: very long time. I think when you find an artist 391 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:10,000 Speaker 2: who really or a genre that really articulates how you 392 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 2: feel during those formative years, during your teen years, and 393 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 2: that perfectly captures your internal turmoil and your joy, it 394 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:21,919 Speaker 2: is very very validating. It's like being able to feel 395 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:23,679 Speaker 2: like there's someone else in this world who gets you, 396 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:26,719 Speaker 2: and someone gets it and you're not alone. And that 397 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:31,200 Speaker 2: act of recognition, that feeling of being understood through art 398 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:36,680 Speaker 2: is fundamental to solidifying what you tell yourself about yourself. 399 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:39,960 Speaker 2: It tells you in a way music is able to 400 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:42,919 Speaker 2: confirm to you, this is who I am, this is 401 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:45,439 Speaker 2: what resonates with me. These are the kind of people 402 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:49,480 Speaker 2: that I am like beyond individual expression. I think also 403 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:52,760 Speaker 2: music is a really beautiful way to make friends. It's 404 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:59,560 Speaker 2: incredibly socially connective. It's such a powerful engine for group 405 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:03,199 Speaker 2: of Philly. We all know this feeling intuitively right. You know, 406 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:06,000 Speaker 2: you meet someone new, one of the things you may 407 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 2: talk about is what kind of music you like, and 408 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:12,240 Speaker 2: there if there is a shared love there, boom, it's 409 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:15,160 Speaker 2: like an instant connection. If someone likes the same artists 410 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:18,000 Speaker 2: and the same music, you almost assume they're a very 411 00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:21,120 Speaker 2: similar person to you on factors that go a lot 412 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:24,960 Speaker 2: deeper than musical preference. So this really taps into something 413 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:29,119 Speaker 2: called social identity theory core concept in social psychology. It 414 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 2: suggests that a significant part of our self concept comes 415 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:35,119 Speaker 2: from the groups we belong to, and we are constantly 416 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:38,800 Speaker 2: trying to find our way or a way to connect 417 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:43,639 Speaker 2: to those groups. Liking the same music doesn't feel superficial. It, 418 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 2: you know, often signals shed values, similar cultural experiences, even 419 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:55,359 Speaker 2: common emotional landscapes, similar chapters and periods of your life. 420 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:58,680 Speaker 2: I always think about like going to a Taylor Swift concert, 421 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:01,760 Speaker 2: going to Like the Errors tour last year and looking 422 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:03,679 Speaker 2: around and being like, oh, yeah, I could probably be 423 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:07,400 Speaker 2: friends with every single person here, not because we might 424 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:09,199 Speaker 2: have a lot in common but because I know that 425 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 2: we definitely have a few things shared if we've been 426 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:16,200 Speaker 2: able to resonate with this music. Concerts as well, are 427 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 2: just like if music brings us happiness and joy and pleasures, 428 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:25,800 Speaker 2: concerts like dial that up by a thousand, a million, 429 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:30,399 Speaker 2: a billion. The shared energy, singing along, the feeling of 430 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:34,359 Speaker 2: unity in a crowd of thousands, that is a very 431 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:38,760 Speaker 2: powerful psychological phenomenon. It's white people scream and cry and 432 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:44,240 Speaker 2: go crazy at concerts and festivals. It's this release of oxytocin, 433 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:48,080 Speaker 2: the bonding hormone that is being shared and creating this 434 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:52,280 Speaker 2: synchronized experience. It's a sense of belonging. It's a sense 435 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:55,000 Speaker 2: of being part of something bigger than you, which we 436 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 2: all want to be part of, and in our twenties 437 00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 2: in particular, and in our teens, like loneliness is such 438 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 2: a silent struggle during that time. Being able to find 439 00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:09,000 Speaker 2: your musical tribe feels like a lifeline. It's a shorthand 440 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,480 Speaker 2: to connection. It's a way to build community. You know. 441 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:14,000 Speaker 2: I think about all my friends who have these internet 442 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,280 Speaker 2: friends from when they were on Tumblr and like listening 443 00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:19,439 Speaker 2: to One Direction or like five seconds of Summer, it 444 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:25,320 Speaker 2: just creates such a unique connective experience. Here's a subtle 445 00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:28,919 Speaker 2: but important nuance as well. The music we listen to 446 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:32,920 Speaker 2: doesn't just reflect who we are, it also shapes who 447 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:38,320 Speaker 2: we are becoming. If you consistently listen to empowering, confident music, 448 00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:42,440 Speaker 2: it can actually subtly influence your self perception and your behavior. 449 00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:49,080 Speaker 2: Thanks to this concept called effective priming, exposure to certain 450 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:54,440 Speaker 2: stimuli like music can influence our subsequent thoughts and actions. 451 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 2: In fact, in a twenty twenty three study from the 452 00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:00,520 Speaker 2: University of Notre Dame, they found that listening to us upbeat, 453 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:03,840 Speaker 2: happy music for a certain amount of time every day 454 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:08,120 Speaker 2: can actually shift your mood. It made people more optimistic 455 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:11,720 Speaker 2: and it actually increased how many positive thoughts they were 456 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:16,600 Speaker 2: having every single day. Similarly, if you are constantly immersed 457 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:20,560 Speaker 2: in music that is angry or melancholic, it can, in 458 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:25,120 Speaker 2: some states, in some ways reinforce those emotions and reinforce 459 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:29,640 Speaker 2: that feeling. It shapes your outlook music and you have 460 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:33,240 Speaker 2: a very complex relationship, like hopefully that's coming through how 461 00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 2: I'm explaining this, Like it's this dynamic reciprocal relationship. I 462 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:41,520 Speaker 2: guess you know. It's similar to repeating Martras. It's similar 463 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:44,480 Speaker 2: to words of affirmation. If you are screaming at the 464 00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:47,600 Speaker 2: top of your lungs that you are incredible, you're gonna 465 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:50,960 Speaker 2: feel fucking incredible. If you're listening to sad songs that 466 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,440 Speaker 2: talk about how terrible life is, you're gonna feel like 467 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:58,120 Speaker 2: life is terrible. So music isn't just a backdrop. It 468 00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:00,080 Speaker 2: is an act of participant in how we see our 469 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:03,680 Speaker 2: selves and how we see the world. So I want 470 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:07,720 Speaker 2: to talk about how music functions as a coping mechanism 471 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:11,719 Speaker 2: because for many of us, especially in our twenties, music 472 00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:14,560 Speaker 2: isn't just about enjoyment. It is a very vital tool 473 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:19,400 Speaker 2: for navigating life's ups and downs. The moment of overwhelm 474 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:23,000 Speaker 2: at work, the surge of anxiety before a meeting, the 475 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:27,959 Speaker 2: feeling of loneliness. Music can shift those feelings. It is 476 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:32,920 Speaker 2: an act of emotional regulation. Interestingly, it's not just calming music, 477 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:36,480 Speaker 2: ambient music, low five music that can do this. The 478 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:40,040 Speaker 2: same thing occurs for familiar songs. Songs that we know 479 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:43,960 Speaker 2: are comforting because they are predictable and the emotions they 480 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:48,880 Speaker 2: elicit have been ones that we've encountered before and we've managed. 481 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:53,000 Speaker 2: It's why listening to music from your childhood, listening to 482 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:56,840 Speaker 2: like early two thousands pop music, listening to like old 483 00:30:56,880 --> 00:31:01,200 Speaker 2: Taylor Swift albums or old albums that you love, makes 484 00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:05,160 Speaker 2: you feel at home in a weird way, makes you 485 00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:08,480 Speaker 2: just feel so comforted. It's like this is a place 486 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:11,520 Speaker 2: that I've been before, this is a soundtrack that I'm 487 00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:15,560 Speaker 2: familiar with. People have obviously started to recognize this. I 488 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:20,360 Speaker 2: think Western medicine has started to recognize this. A lot 489 00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:24,120 Speaker 2: of cultures have understood this for many, many, many many decades. 490 00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:26,560 Speaker 2: We're just kind of catching up, as we are with 491 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:31,040 Speaker 2: many many things. Clinical musical therapy is now becoming a 492 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:35,960 Speaker 2: much more prevalent therapy. It's a recognized field that uses 493 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:40,080 Speaker 2: these very principles that we have been discussing, these neurological 494 00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:44,640 Speaker 2: principles of music's psychological effects, to help people manage anxiety, 495 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:48,000 Speaker 2: to help them reduce pain, to help them cope with trauma. 496 00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:52,680 Speaker 2: Researchers have really demonstrated time and time again how structured 497 00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:58,400 Speaker 2: musical interventions can lead to significant improvements in emotional wellbeing 498 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:05,920 Speaker 2: and beyond pure stress relief, making music, making sound creating 499 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:09,160 Speaker 2: things can also be a fantastic distraction and it can 500 00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:12,239 Speaker 2: also be an incredible way to unlock creativity, and we 501 00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:17,480 Speaker 2: know creativity being frequently creative links to high life satisfaction, 502 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:23,000 Speaker 2: links to greater well being, even increases immune response and 503 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:26,680 Speaker 2: increases senses of a sense of emotional safety. I think 504 00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:30,280 Speaker 2: we're going to see offerings of music therapy, obviously in 505 00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:34,000 Speaker 2: conjunction with other therapy as well, like CBT or DBT, 506 00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:40,400 Speaker 2: really increase because we're starting to realize that only treating 507 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:45,760 Speaker 2: things in a very clinical way, in a very structured 508 00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:47,480 Speaker 2: way that has to do with you in another person, 509 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:50,720 Speaker 2: interacting and solving things and thinking about things doesn't always 510 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:54,000 Speaker 2: work for people and finding like music is like this 511 00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:57,680 Speaker 2: key that unlocks whole new dimensions of someone's ability to 512 00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:00,560 Speaker 2: cope and of their memories and of the trauma in 513 00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:04,400 Speaker 2: their personhood. That it's crazy that we aren't using it more. 514 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:07,040 Speaker 2: It's crazy that, you know, Western medicine is only just 515 00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:11,880 Speaker 2: woken up to how powerful it can be. Let's talk 516 00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:16,080 Speaker 2: about another element of this though, Because music can be therapeutic, 517 00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:19,480 Speaker 2: it can be a distraction, it can be emotionally powerful, 518 00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:22,680 Speaker 2: it can be a memory jogger. Is there a point 519 00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:28,080 Speaker 2: where we listen to too much music? Is there a 520 00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:33,280 Speaker 2: value in music? Does the value of music diminish beyond 521 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:40,480 Speaker 2: a certain point? Yes, music is an incredible mental distraction 522 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:45,440 Speaker 2: to aversive stimuli like pain or boredom. And whilst distraction 523 00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:49,960 Speaker 2: is a valid, sometimes healthy coping strategy, there is a 524 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:54,440 Speaker 2: fine line between distraction and avoidance. Is silence really all 525 00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:57,600 Speaker 2: that terrible? Is it really that bad for you? I 526 00:33:57,640 --> 00:33:59,320 Speaker 2: was on a run with my friend the other day 527 00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:01,360 Speaker 2: and we we have a running group where we live. 528 00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:04,440 Speaker 2: Never thought I would be someone who's in a running group, 529 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:08,160 Speaker 2: but that's for another time. Anyways, we were like preparing 530 00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:11,160 Speaker 2: to run and I looked over at her and she 531 00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:12,760 Speaker 2: didn't have her headphones in, and I was like, okay, 532 00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:14,759 Speaker 2: well we'll wait till you have your headphones in. And 533 00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:17,080 Speaker 2: then she was like, oh no, I'm not gonna wear them. 534 00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:18,360 Speaker 2: And I was like, oh, did you forget them? Like 535 00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:20,640 Speaker 2: you can borrow mine? And she was like, oh no, no, 536 00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:23,880 Speaker 2: Like I have been. My mum has been talking to 537 00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:26,759 Speaker 2: me about and I've been reading about how when we 538 00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:30,160 Speaker 2: constantly have music on, or we have sounds distracting us, 539 00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:32,480 Speaker 2: it can actually pull us away from the present. It 540 00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:35,560 Speaker 2: can even make us irritated. It can actually make it 541 00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:38,440 Speaker 2: harder for us to focus. So she did this whole 542 00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:41,719 Speaker 2: have a many kilometer run with nothing in her ears, 543 00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:44,120 Speaker 2: and I was like, that is I could not do that, 544 00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:46,759 Speaker 2: But it really got me thinking, like can we listen 545 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:50,920 Speaker 2: to too much music? One researcher did say that no 546 00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:54,600 Speaker 2: more than eight hours a day is best because at 547 00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:58,240 Speaker 2: that point you can actually start to damage certain auditory systems. 548 00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:01,319 Speaker 2: But also you essentially blood to the emotional effect of 549 00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:04,640 Speaker 2: music on your mood and motivation, like you become less 550 00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:09,000 Speaker 2: sensitized to it. There is value in actually being present 551 00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:11,440 Speaker 2: in the moment and listening to the natural sounds around you, 552 00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:15,719 Speaker 2: tapping into your senses, listening to your surroundings, and then 553 00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:18,680 Speaker 2: using music when you really need it, rather than just 554 00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:22,120 Speaker 2: just something that is always playing in the background. You know. 555 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:25,320 Speaker 2: As incredible and invaluable as music is, sometimes it actually 556 00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:27,480 Speaker 2: gets in the way of being truly where your feet are. 557 00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:30,279 Speaker 2: I guess it relates to an episode I did on 558 00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:31,480 Speaker 2: maladaptive daydreaming. 559 00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:31,799 Speaker 1: Right. 560 00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:35,440 Speaker 2: Daydreaming is beautiful, it's fun, it's magical. If we're constantly 561 00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:38,560 Speaker 2: doing it, if we're constantly trying to escape the present 562 00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:41,839 Speaker 2: to be in some kind of fantasy, then it can 563 00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:45,760 Speaker 2: actually become very unhelpful. To think about this for a second. 564 00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:50,920 Speaker 2: Are you using music to process your sadness or are 565 00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:54,560 Speaker 2: you using it to numb you off or distract you? 566 00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:58,399 Speaker 2: The difference can be subtle, but it's very crucial. Some 567 00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:01,359 Speaker 2: studies suggest that yeah, us listening to sad music can 568 00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:07,200 Speaker 2: help explore melancholy. Constantly listening to sad music can induce 569 00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:11,360 Speaker 2: really heavy rumination that actually might make you feel worse 570 00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:15,799 Speaker 2: than you would be without it. It's worth considering. So 571 00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:17,399 Speaker 2: the big question that we have, and that I think 572 00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:19,920 Speaker 2: we've been kind of coming to, is if music is 573 00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:22,520 Speaker 2: this incredible tool, how do we use it for good? 574 00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:25,600 Speaker 2: How do we use it to elevate our life, to 575 00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:28,560 Speaker 2: boost our mood, to make us more focused, make us 576 00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:34,239 Speaker 2: more creative. The key I believe is intentionality. Instead of 577 00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:38,400 Speaker 2: just letting music happen to you, try and engage with 578 00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:42,640 Speaker 2: it consciously. Ask yourself what music makes me feel? What 579 00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:46,400 Speaker 2: and when can I use it intentionally for those moments? 580 00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:49,000 Speaker 2: So let me explain this a little bit further. Once 581 00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:51,719 Speaker 2: study found that different kinds of musics are best for 582 00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:54,840 Speaker 2: different moments in your life and different kinds of work 583 00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:59,319 Speaker 2: that you need to do so. Slow instrumental music is 584 00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:04,120 Speaker 2: best for deep work. It's less likely to interfere with 585 00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:09,440 Speaker 2: your reading comprehension, it's less likely to interrupt problem solving. 586 00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:13,319 Speaker 2: It's best to do hard, deep work when you are 587 00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:19,600 Speaker 2: listening to slow instrumental music. Soft fast music has a 588 00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:23,600 Speaker 2: positive impact on learning. So when you're engaging in something new, 589 00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:27,439 Speaker 2: having music that is a little bit more upbeat, maybe 590 00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:31,319 Speaker 2: has a few lyrics is better. Very upbeat music with 591 00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:34,120 Speaker 2: a higher tempo helps you when you're doing something that 592 00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:39,759 Speaker 2: requires movement or motivation, like you're exercising, you're cleaning your room, 593 00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:42,120 Speaker 2: but in a very difficult task, when you're doing a 594 00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:46,960 Speaker 2: very difficult task, you're memorizing material, you are problem solving, 595 00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:50,800 Speaker 2: like doing in depth problem solving, maybe like advanced calculus. 596 00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:55,359 Speaker 2: I don't know. The more likely music is actually distancing 597 00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:58,160 Speaker 2: and distracting you, and that's when you need to turn 598 00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:01,160 Speaker 2: it off. So I actually think it's important to curate 599 00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:04,920 Speaker 2: your own playlists for different contexts instead of just having 600 00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:09,000 Speaker 2: a random collection of liked songs that you play whenever 601 00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:11,840 Speaker 2: and that you kind of get bored of. Think strategically, 602 00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:15,160 Speaker 2: based on what we've discussed about music's impact on mood 603 00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:20,040 Speaker 2: and arousal, create or find playlists that have the following vibes. 604 00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:23,279 Speaker 2: So we're gonna make five playlists. The first playlist is 605 00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:26,759 Speaker 2: going to be a focus zone playlist. So this is 606 00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:30,800 Speaker 2: your playlist for deep work thing instrumental, lo fi, ambient, 607 00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:35,080 Speaker 2: classical music designed to keep your mind engaged but not distracted. 608 00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:38,759 Speaker 2: Then I want you to have the energy surge playlist, 609 00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:43,360 Speaker 2: so you'll go to for workouts before a big presentation 610 00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:46,760 Speaker 2: or when you need to shake off a slump. High tempo, 611 00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:50,840 Speaker 2: driving beats, empowering lyrics. This is when you can consciously 612 00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:53,960 Speaker 2: tap into that dopamine hit and that entrainment that we 613 00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:58,399 Speaker 2: mentioned before as well to boost your physiological arousal. Then 614 00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:02,880 Speaker 2: we want the calm down and into playlists, So gentle acoustics, 615 00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:07,560 Speaker 2: nature sounds, classical pieces, slope jazz designed to activate your 616 00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:11,719 Speaker 2: parasympathetic nervous system, bring you back into your body, not 617 00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:15,719 Speaker 2: necessarily the same as your deep work playlist. Then we 618 00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:18,480 Speaker 2: want the process my Feelings playlist. So this one is 619 00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:23,080 Speaker 2: you know a playlist that has really deep cuts in it. 620 00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:25,640 Speaker 2: It might be even be like genuinely quite sad, but 621 00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:31,080 Speaker 2: music that validates your emotions, that provides Catharsis makes you 622 00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:35,399 Speaker 2: feel hopeful. Maybe we kind of divide this playlist into two. 623 00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:37,520 Speaker 2: We have the process my feelings playlist, so this is 624 00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:42,040 Speaker 2: like you're really really sad, somber playlist, and then you 625 00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:48,160 Speaker 2: have your like everyday background thinking, fun lyric playlist. So 626 00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:51,279 Speaker 2: music that like you can think about, music that you 627 00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:54,480 Speaker 2: can sing along to, that is interesting to you and 628 00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:58,240 Speaker 2: keeps you inquisitive and keeps you, yeah, curious, I guess, 629 00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:01,200 Speaker 2: so leverage that. I want you to have those playlists 630 00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:04,319 Speaker 2: so that you're not getting irritated by music, You're not 631 00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:07,280 Speaker 2: finding that it's like slipping into context that it doesn't 632 00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:10,000 Speaker 2: need to be in. I also think it's important to 633 00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:14,359 Speaker 2: leverage music as a contextual cue for new habits. And 634 00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:17,600 Speaker 2: this is that's why the previous step is required that 635 00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:20,479 Speaker 2: you have those playlists. This is a really cool trick 636 00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:24,000 Speaker 2: from behavioral psychology. If you're trying to build a new habit, 637 00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:29,400 Speaker 2: say meditating, journaling, getting ready for bed, earlier, running, associate 638 00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:33,120 Speaker 2: a specific type of music with that habit. Play the 639 00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:35,759 Speaker 2: same calming instrumental piece every time you want to go 640 00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:38,800 Speaker 2: to bed, every time you want to meditate, every time 641 00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:40,320 Speaker 2: you wake up in the morning and you want to 642 00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:44,800 Speaker 2: get up feeling excited. Over time, that music will become 643 00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:47,840 Speaker 2: a conditioned stimulus, so it automatically signals to your brain 644 00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:51,480 Speaker 2: to enter the specific state that you want to be in. 645 00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:55,840 Speaker 2: It's creating a mental shortcut. I also think that given 646 00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:59,000 Speaker 2: music's power but also its power to be a distraction, 647 00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:03,480 Speaker 2: Like we were talking about before, you do calld an 648 00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:07,200 Speaker 2: off time in your day for silence, but you're not 649 00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:10,120 Speaker 2: listening to a podcast, you're not listening to your music, 650 00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:14,800 Speaker 2: you're not immediately putting your headphones on, You're just embracing 651 00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:21,760 Speaker 2: the sensory experience of the noises around you. Constantly playing 652 00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:26,600 Speaker 2: music is actually probably interrupting your brain's ability to concentrate, 653 00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:30,960 Speaker 2: and music will feel more special if you don't constantly 654 00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:33,200 Speaker 2: have it in the background. Have you ever had this 655 00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:36,160 Speaker 2: experience where you've been in meetings all day, you've been 656 00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:40,200 Speaker 2: running around all day or like all week, and then 657 00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:41,920 Speaker 2: you finally get to sit down and like put on 658 00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:44,480 Speaker 2: your favorite album and you're like, Wow, this actually this 659 00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:48,719 Speaker 2: this stuff is good, Like this feels really nice. Sometimes 660 00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:51,360 Speaker 2: we actually do need to kind of let ourself have 661 00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:54,440 Speaker 2: a break from it or engage with music, like beyond 662 00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:57,440 Speaker 2: the headphones. You know, listen to it not through headphones. 663 00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:00,279 Speaker 2: Listen to it in your car, listen to it on 664 00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:04,360 Speaker 2: your speaker system, Go to a concert, go do karaoke, 665 00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:07,879 Speaker 2: go to a dance class, so you experience what it's 666 00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:10,280 Speaker 2: really meant to do for you, which is to connect 667 00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:12,960 Speaker 2: you to others, connect you to your body, connect you 668 00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:16,319 Speaker 2: to your environment as well, rather than just keep you 669 00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:22,399 Speaker 2: quite insular. I guess, just practice mindful listening, Really listen 670 00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:25,279 Speaker 2: to a song, really engage in it, really notice what 671 00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:29,160 Speaker 2: it does for you, and really notice when perhaps it's 672 00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:32,759 Speaker 2: frustrating you, when you need silence. I think ultimately music 673 00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:38,040 Speaker 2: is one of humanity's most profound gifts. Really, it is 674 00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:42,840 Speaker 2: a gift. I'm feeling very spiritual about this episode, but 675 00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:45,200 Speaker 2: I truly believe it is like music is one of 676 00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:48,920 Speaker 2: I think a lot of people's reasons for being Like 677 00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:52,439 Speaker 2: a world without music would be so terrible, and it's 678 00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:55,839 Speaker 2: just so incredible how much it does for our emotions, 679 00:42:55,840 --> 00:43:00,719 Speaker 2: for our healing, for entertainment. It's vital, powerful, it's a 680 00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:06,359 Speaker 2: psychological companion. But understand its nuances, engage with it mindfully, 681 00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:10,520 Speaker 2: and harness its incredible mental power. So I think that's 682 00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:13,040 Speaker 2: all I have time for today. I feel like we've 683 00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:15,320 Speaker 2: covered a lot of basses. There's still things I probably 684 00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:17,640 Speaker 2: didn't talk about. But what I really want from you, 685 00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:20,560 Speaker 2: if you have listened this far, is to drop a 686 00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:24,160 Speaker 2: comment below of your favorite song so I can make 687 00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:28,560 Speaker 2: a playlist companion to this episode of the listener's favorite songs. 688 00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:32,880 Speaker 2: If you are listening to this episode before let's say 689 00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:37,600 Speaker 2: the first of July twenty twenty five, please leave a 690 00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:40,759 Speaker 2: song down below. I want to make a little collaborative 691 00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:43,719 Speaker 2: playlist of all our favorite songs. Also, because I'm in 692 00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:45,520 Speaker 2: kind of like a musical rap right now, I want 693 00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:47,080 Speaker 2: to listen to some new stuff, like I need to 694 00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:51,160 Speaker 2: stop listening to the same like Kelsey Ballerini, and like 695 00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:53,960 Speaker 2: Via Blue albums that I've been listening to on repeat. 696 00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:57,360 Speaker 2: So put some song suggestions down below. I want to 697 00:43:57,400 --> 00:43:59,880 Speaker 2: make this playlist happen. Thank you for listening to this. 698 00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:02,440 Speaker 2: It will be a sign that you were able to 699 00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:05,439 Speaker 2: concentrate and that you are a loyal listener. And also, 700 00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:08,680 Speaker 2: don't forget to follow me on Instagram at that psychology podcast. 701 00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:11,440 Speaker 2: Don't forget to listen to Mantra If you want to 702 00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:15,440 Speaker 2: break from your playlist from your current albums on repeat. 703 00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:19,840 Speaker 2: Mantra is a really beautiful place to land. It is 704 00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:22,799 Speaker 2: such a meditative podcast for me. It's such a great 705 00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:25,000 Speaker 2: way to start your week. I will also have a 706 00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:27,839 Speaker 2: link in the description as well. Make sure you are 707 00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:30,200 Speaker 2: following along. Make sure to give us a five star 708 00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:33,560 Speaker 2: review and share this episode with a friend. I'd love 709 00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:37,239 Speaker 2: to hear your thoughts, feelings, qualms, favorite songs in the 710 00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:40,720 Speaker 2: comments or on Instagram. But until next time, stay safe, 711 00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:44,640 Speaker 2: be kind, be gentle to yourself, happy listening, and we 712 00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:46,239 Speaker 2: will talk very very soon.