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Speaker 1: but Nice Show. I'm your host, Rob Shooter. It's Wednesday,

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Speaker 1: and I'm in a really good mood today, despite the

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Speaker 1: fact that our dear, dear friend Donnie Meetscham will not

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Speaker 1: he can't be here. Donnie's moving apartments today, Isn't that lovely?

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Speaker 1: boo hoo, No Donnie, but we're so excited. Donnie send

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Speaker 1: us a picture of the new place. He's doing so

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Speaker 1: well in l A. People that have followed our journey

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Speaker 1: together over the last few years know that Donnie was

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Speaker 1: it's all thrilling news. But it does mean that it's

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Speaker 1: just us today, naughties. But don't worry. We've done it before.

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Speaker 1: We know how to do this. We've got tons of gossip,

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Speaker 1: so sit back and let's get to it. What time

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Speaker 1: is it, my friends? It is tea time big story.

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Speaker 1: At the top of the show, Megan Markle is making

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Speaker 1: headlines again by slamming the label Duchess Difficult, saying that

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Speaker 1: she actually makes a choice to be grounded. It's a fascinating,

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Speaker 1: fascinating interview that she's doing, and she's really pushing back

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Speaker 1: over these rumors that started to swirl in about two

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Speaker 1: the British tabloids Duchess Difficult, because of her behavior like

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Speaker 1: Royal family. In the Royal Circles, she worked at a

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Speaker 1: and demanded things to be done a certain way, and

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Speaker 1: the Angry Black Woman Myth, the Duchess discusses the need

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Speaker 1: Duchess says the following quote, You're allowed to set boundary,

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Speaker 1: You're allowed to be clear. That does not make you demanding,

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Speaker 1: it again. What she's saying here is you are allowed

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Speaker 1: well as being a fabulous gossip columnist, I'm also a

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Speaker 1: self help author and this is something we talk about

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Speaker 1: a lot, setting boundaries and being clear. If you don't

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Speaker 1: She's not difficult, she is clear. Oh. I can't wait

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Speaker 1: now on Matthew Perry. This book it is I'm reading

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